#23 – Jay Clouse: Enabling Creators to Be More Creative (and Earn More Money)

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Jay Clouse helps people become professional creators. He is the writer of Creator Science and the host of Creative Elements, a narrative-interview podcast exploring how today’s top creators make a living with their art and creativity. He previously led the Community Experience team for Pat Flynn and Smart Passive Income, designing their paid membership community and cohort-based course programs. Jay is also the creator of the wildly successful, #Tweet100 campaign.

This is another live interview Heather and Alan did during PodcastMovement in Dallas. Prepare for some incredible truth bombs, but laughter and silliness also ensued!

Jay love’s to connect! Follow him on Twitter or TikTok and check out Creative Science for exceptional insight for creators at every stage of their journey.


  • Do something different! It sets you apart from the crowd. 
  • Create a situation where you can fail publicly to help you stay accountable! Brilliant creativity hack. 
  • The more you do a thing, the more successful you’ll be at the thing. 
  • Figure out your own quirks and work with them! 
  • Don’t always imitate others. Take what you want, but don’t overcomplicate things. 
  • Kids show up and do things they don’t know how to do. That’s how they learn – adults often don’t. 
  • Expand your view on what entrepreneurship actually is. 
  • The creator world is all about actualizing your own vision, not someone else’s. 
  • You can “learn out loud” and take others on the journey. It’s a win-win. 
  • Reward the people who take early risks with you. 
  • Earned insight is so valuable – charge accordingly.
  • Humans don’t push themselves to the limits. That’s why coaches and consultants are so valuable.
  • Move forward faster by learning what doesn’t work (some people call that failing).
  • There’s space for being aspirational! Embrace it. 
  • Ask yourself: What are the unique skills that I want?
  • Stop comparing yourself to the big shots in your industry. It’s not serving you. 
  • Know when to let enough be enough. And also when to let good enough be good enough. 

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