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[0:14] Jesse McAnally: Hello, I'm Jesse McAnally.

[0:16] Alan Seales: And I'm Alan Seales.

[0:18] Jesse McAnally: And I'm Liz Eston.

[0:20] Jesse McAnally: And welcome to Carrey'd Away, a podcast where we explore the films and television shows starring the one and only James Eugene Carrey.

[0:26] Alan Seales: How are we doing today?

[0:28] Jesse McAnally: This is definitely just a week after we did the Alex Brightman recording, isn't it?

[0:33] Alan Seales: Definitely only a week in the world of some multiverse that wasn't this one.

[0:38] Jesse McAnally: This is like the highest build-up for a podcast ever.

[0:42] Alan Seales: Like ever.

[0:43] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, we were just talking like, oh, behind the scenes, they'd never know, but now we disoured ourselves.

[0:47] Alan Seales: Then we just out ourselves as being behind.

[0:49] Jesse McAnally: Well, I have not re-listened to the other ones.

[0:52] Alan Seales: Um, Liz will be editing a bunch of the ones previous.

[0:57] Jesse McAnally: Um, so maybe we'll reference things that were really, really topical in 2022.

[1:02] Alan Seales: Who knows?

[1:04] Jesse McAnally: But what year is it now?

[1:06] Alan Seales: 2027.

[1:08] Jesse McAnally: Not 2022.

[1:09] Alan Seales: Um, whenever this comes out, 2029.

[1:12] Jesse McAnally: Um, but we're doing good, we're all surviving, we're all in relative health and happiness and joy.

[1:19] Jesse McAnally: And you know what? I'm very excited, because you know what? Get into the time machine.

[1:23] Alan Seales: We're going to the year 1984.

[1:25] Jesse McAnally: The year that Michael Jackson gets second-degree burns while filming a Pepsi commercial.

[1:29] Alan Seales: The musical Starlight Express opened in London at the Apollo Victoria Theater.

[1:33] Jesse McAnally: Madonna's single "Like a Virgin" goes to Billboard number one in America for six weeks.

[1:38] Alan Seales: And Jim Carrey starred in a strangely sincere TV sitcom mid-season replacement for The Cosby Show called The Duck Factory.

[1:46] Jesse McAnally: Thursday, it's the premiere of The Duck Factory.

[1:49] Alan Seales: So Craig gets a big city license and a Hollywood cartoon company.

[1:53] Jesse McAnally: He's got two women that love him and a boss that wants to lose him.

[1:57] Alan Seales: One false note.

[1:58] Jesse McAnally: And you're gone.

[1:59] Alan Seales: Certainly sounds fair.

[2:00] Jesse McAnally: From the creators of The Mary Tyler Moore Show comes the premiere of The Duck Factory, Thursday.

[2:05] Alan Seales: I didn't realize it was a mid-season replacement for The Cosby Show.

[2:09] Jesse McAnally: Yes, and they put it like they gave it a really good time. It was right before Hill Street Blues, um, and it was a very good lead-in.

[2:19] Alan Seales: Like right after Cheers, right before Hill Street Blues.

[2:22] Jesse McAnally: Great placement, and then they kept not marketing the show.

[2:26] Alan Seales: And wondered why no one was watching.

[2:28] Jesse McAnally: And it didn't, like, the end of the season, maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves. It just ended.

[2:33] Alan Seales: There was no wrap-up.

[2:34] Jesse McAnally: Well, we'll get into that. But The Duck Factory was a television show that started airing April 12th and was cancelled July 11th of 1984, 13 weeks and it's gone.

[2:44] Alan Seales: It was created by Alan Burns's and Herbert Clint, both known for The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and very, very successful showrunners and writers in their own right.

[2:54] Jesse McAnally: It is an American sitcom produced by MTM Enterprises that aired on NBC from April 12th to July 11th.

[3:00] Alan Seales: It was Jim Carrey's first lead role in a Hollywood production.

[3:03] Jesse McAnally: The show was set in a small independent animation studio and was co-created by Burns and Clint.

[3:08] Alan Seales: Um, Burns started his career as a writer and animator for The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show and George of the Jungle, which is where he got a lot of the animation influences for this.

[3:16] Jesse McAnally: Um, he would also go on to make Mr. Magoo, The Gerald McBoing Boing, among other cartoons, and I think that's part of what adds to the verisimilitude of this show.

[3:25] Alan Seales: In 1995, at the height of Jim Carrey's career, two VHS cassettes were released in the United States by MTM Home Video, one containing the first three episodes, the other containing the last three episodes, and those middle ones no one saw for a good long time.

[3:38] Jesse McAnally: They were released in the United Kingdom in 1997, and you know, just kind of released and then ignored.

[3:46] Alan Seales: Um, the plot of The Duck Factory or the premise is Skip Tarkington, played by Jim Carrey, is a young animator who's just started with a low-budget animation company that produces The Dibby Duck Show.

[3:55] Jesse McAnally: As the new guy, Skip is often the brunt of office politics and has to deal with his own lack of confidence.

[4:01] Alan Seales: That being said, I think I love this show.

[4:05] Jesse McAnally: I want to agree with you on this one.

[4:08] Alan Seales: Uh, and I w what stood out to me about it really at first was how Jim Carrey's not being what we know as Jim Carrey now.

[4:18] Jesse McAnally: He's, he's, it's a sincere role.

[4:20] Alan Seales: He's the straight guy.

[4:21] Jesse McAnally: Very much so.

[4:22] Alan Seales: And I think that might be to the negative of the show. They didn't quite know what they had on their hands and they misused him.

[4:29] Jesse McAnally: And even all the interviews he was doing at the time were like, so you're playing the straight guy, and they're like, he's like, Yeah.

[4:35] Alan Seales: And they were like, Are you gonna be able to fit in any of your impressions or your goofy face? And he's like, nah, not so far.

[4:41] Jesse McAnally: You can just tell like he's frustrated.

[4:44] Alan Seales: Um, not unhappy, because it's a great passing of the torch, because the person that plays like the elder most person in the show is Jack Guilford, who in his own day was known as the rubber face comedian from the Cracker Jack ads.

[5:01] Jesse McAnally: So it's one rubber face comedian passing the torch to the next rubber face comedian, so to say.

[5:06] Alan Seales: But there's no rubber face really from either of them.

[5:11] Jesse McAnally: They have brief moments, like in one ep in episode two, which is technically episode three if you're really looking at it, he makes a weird face in the mirror to do animation, and in episode, I want to say four or five, Jack Guilford has to mime what it would look like for someone to get pied in the face and then makes a weird face.

[5:29] Alan Seales: And that is the most of it.

[5:31] Jesse McAnally: It's not much, but it's there.

[5:32] Alan Seales: Do you know, do we know what the budget was for this?

[5:35] Jesse McAnally: I can't imagine very big.

[5:37] Alan Seales: I was gonna suggest it looks like it was somebody's shed.

[5:41] Jesse McAnally: Uh, and that's what animation studios look like.

[5:45] Alan Seales: Well, and well, they had a restaurant and they had the studio, and I don't know.

[5:49] Jesse McAnally: I mean, I was just impressed again with the fact that A, it's not porn.

[5:55] Alan Seales: There were no butts.

[5:56] Jesse McAnally: No, I mean, we're kind of scraped the bottom of the barrel as far as that's goes. Early Jim Carrey career is a lot of butts and naked people, and this had none of that.

[6:05] Alan Seales: It had a few choice words, phrases, and in your 80s racism.

[6:12] Jesse McAnally: Um, casual racism and misogyny, but as far as the long and short, there's not like blatant homophobia, there were none of those horrendous slurs that's like, oh god.

[6:22] Alan Seales: Like even like 90s movies age terribly.

[6:26] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[6:27] Alan Seales: And I actually really enjoyed the diversity of the cast as, you know, for being an 80s sitcom, it was more diverse than some have been of that time, especially.

[6:37] Jesse McAnally: And diverse as far as types, you they don't blur together.

[6:41] Alan Seales: I find that with a lot of ensemble shows, a lot of people tend to blur together.

[6:46] Jesse McAnally: My biggest problem with Taxi is I can never remember any of the characters because they all are just a bunch of elderly white men, and here, like everyone is very distinct and has a distinct job, and you g they feel like, um, Nancy Allen's character feels like an editor, and Aggie feels very much like the head producer, and everyone feels their character, so it's very distinct and very memorable.

[7:11] Alan Seales: Um, do you suspect, sorry to interrupt?

[7:14] Jesse McAnally: Sorry, not sorry, to interrupt.

[7:17] Alan Seales: Do you think that what you just said is a product of the fact that most of the cast has strong theatrical experience?

[7:26] Jesse McAnally: So they have a really, they've got a lot of career experience with diving deep into something and making them different.

[7:34] Alan Seales: That's true, but I find, I mean, of course, Nancy Allen and Jack Guilford big theater people, but a lot of the people would go on to have animation experience.

[7:42] Jesse McAnally: Um, specifically, um, the oh god, the gentleman that does the voice for Dippy Duck, um, I forget the actor's name.

[7:50] Alan Seales: It's like he's a very, very famous actor because he was the original voice for Scooby-Doo.

[7:54] Jesse McAnally: Don Messick.

[7:55] Alan Seales: Very, very well-renowned voice actor. I'm very glad to see that he has like a lot of play in this show.

[8:00] Jesse McAnally: What's the matter, Wolf?

[8:02] Alan Seales: I just got back from the doctor.

[8:03] Jesse McAnally: He says, no more women.

[8:05] Alan Seales: Can you just cut down?

[8:06] Jesse McAnally: Nope, that's it. Cold turkey. From now on, it's men only.

[8:13] Alan Seales: Oh, I see.

[8:15] Jesse McAnally: You thought, no, no, no. It's my throat doctor. He says I'm training at doing women's voices.

[8:21] Alan Seales: But he was the original voice for Scooby-Doo, and basically all the original Hanna-Barbera things, he was like their go-to voice actor.

[8:28] Jesse McAnally: And the actress that plays um, Mrs. Winkler, uh, Sherry Winkler, Teresa Ganzel, continues to do voice acting all the way up to like modern day.

[8:39] Alan Seales: Like she's done voices for Toy Story 3 and Despicable Me. She's a go-to voice actress for animation.

[8:45] Jesse McAnally: I was wondering.

[8:45] Alan Seales: A lot of these people would go into that.

[8:47] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, I was wondering if, you know, kind of then the voice that she does, like if that's her real voice or if that's a character, because I, at one point, right when she becomes the receptionist, she is pretending, I think, to do like a voice memo or voicemail or something, and she goes into what I would call your standard normal, uh, like in the chest voice, not the nasal thing.

[9:08] Alan Seales: And I wonder if that was a fake voice or if that was her real voice, and the rest of it is just put on for character.

[9:13] Jesse McAnally: I don't know any of her other work, specifically as we are recording this to be able to compare.

[9:18] Alan Seales: Yeah, I think that she is putting on a slight voice, kind of the way that, uh, Fran from The Nanny kind of puts on a little tint on her natural voice for that role.

[9:28] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, yeah. I can see that.

[9:30] Alan Seales: Jim Carrey plays the young, energetic, youthful guy walking into this very cynical LA environment.

[9:38] Jesse McAnally: It is very fascinating. I'm watching, when I'm watching this, I was watching along with Columbo episodes, and they both like have a very distinct vibe of mid-20th century LA, and I'm just like, I enjoy just watching these people drive around and looking at the sights.

[9:53] Alan Seales: They do. They run around and it's very, like, I think it's a love letter to LA as much as you can have any sort of love letter to LA for starting out, you know, people starting out at a career and trying to make it.

[10:05] Jesse McAnally: And you know, in classic, I guess, setting up the story fashion, you know, Skip Tarkington, played by Jim Carrey, shows up episode one to the guy's funeral who offered him the job, and then what does he do?

[10:17] Alan Seales: So he ends up living in the frickin' studio.

[10:19] Jesse McAnally: In the waterbed in the water where—so imagine you've got a Walt Disney figure who hires you to be an animator, then you're like, finally it's my chance. I fly out to LA and he's dead.

[10:31] Alan Seales: You have to give a eulogy to a man that you've never met.

[10:36] Jesse McAnally: No matter how many times Dippy was flattened by Irving the Terrible, or kicked in the teeth by Rotten Ronaldo, somehow his good old-fashioned American gumption would always prevail.

[10:50] Alan Seales: So even as I stand here on this sad occasion, that philosophy fills me with hope.

[10:57] Jesse McAnally: Knowing that you will pick yourselves up after being kicked in the teeth by his death. Dust yourselves off and face whatever the future brings.

[11:07] Alan Seales: The kid is running for something.

[11:10] Jesse McAnally: Which is feasible at the time this came out because there's no cell phones, there's no texting.

[11:15] Alan Seales: How would you know?

[11:16] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, how would you know?

[11:17] Alan Seales: They're like the pr—they probably didn't have office computers yet.

[11:20] Jesse McAnally: They were still using typewriters, I think of this.

[11:24] Alan Seales: Excuse you, Jesse.

[11:24] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, it's Twitter.

[11:26] Alan Seales: Alan, it's always Twitter.

[11:27] Jesse McAnally: Okay, it's Twex.

[11:31] Alan Seales: That sounds like a disease.

[11:35] Jesse McAnally: But Jim Carrey's character Skip is kind of immediately given power.

[11:40] Alan Seales: Like, as soon as he gets there, he's given a producer role just because they hate everyone else.

[11:45] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, they're like nobody has to.

[11:46] Alan Seales: And no one else wants a responsibility.

[11:47] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, we don't want to agree with anybody else doing it, so let's give it to the new guy who's unproven.

[11:51] Alan Seales: That's cool.

[11:52] Jesse McAnally: But then he actually does a decent job and is pretty quick-witted, and I'm really into it.

[11:58] Jesse McAnally: And I'm really into how disgusting people from LA are, and how very um intense this is with it. Everyone is so self-centered, so self-serious, like you've got, let's let's just break down the characters really, really quickly. So they always paired in the marketing, Jim Carrey up with Jack Gilford's Brooks Carmichael, who is like the elder director animator on there, um, who's played as the naive kind of daughtering old man and has a lot of the funniest jokes with him just being confused about what's going on, and I love him, and I think even if we did the show today, he would probably be perfect.

[12:35] Alan Seales: BB Bumps and I were just getting up to go grunion hunting.

[12:39] Jesse McAnally: You're welcome to join us.

[12:40] Alan Seales: In the middle of the night?

[12:41] Jesse McAnally: Grunyan, a little fish that come in at high tide to lay their eggs in the sand. What you do see is sneak up on them when they're not looking and grab a handful.

[12:50] Alan Seales: Sounds like fun.

[12:52] Jesse McAnally: You can help us keep an eye on on Bumps. He likes to squish them between his toes. Then you have Nancy Lane playing by Andrea Lewin, who you might recognize from a chorus line on Broadway, the original cast.

[13:06] Alan Seales: Sorry, wasn't Jack Guilford in the original forum?

[13:09] Jesse McAnally: Funny thing happened the way the forum right? He was in the original forum and one of the only people aside of Zero Mostel poured it over to the movie.

[13:15] Alan Seales: Hmm okay so Nancy Lane, yes, in the original cast of Chorus Line. As well just kind of fell off fell off after Duck Factory in a chorus line, and now just kind of tweets about um the the the the New York transportation as far as I can tell.

[13:32] Jesse McAnally: She X's about it, yes. Your mother was visiting that would be great, but my mother uh hi, this is Sherry Winkler over at Buddy Winkley Production. Could you send over a bunch of maids? I'll pick one out and then send the rest of them right back. You're a doll bye.

[13:48] Alan Seales: Then you got Jay Tarsus as Marty Fenneman. Um Jay Tarsus is not particularly known as an actor but a writer. He was one of the writers for the Great Muppet Caper, which is one of the best and Muppet of the Meet Manhattan, um as well as Short Circuit as an uncredited writer.

[14:03] Jesse McAnally: Um and he No, I know. I love that. He's now my new hero, because I love that movie and it's the best.

[14:09] Alan Seales: Uh even with the brown face?

[14:10] Jesse McAnally: The brown face. Well, we'll get rid of it. Okay. So not so best there. He plays, I think by far the worst character um in Marty Feniman. Um he's like the the eclay like the epitome of male dominance and toxic masculinity.

[14:26] Alan Seales: Yes.

[14:27] Jesse McAnally: He's he's probably the least well-developed character.

[14:30] Alan Seales: I would agree with that.

[14:31] Jesse McAnally: But he stops a rape.

[14:35] Alan Seales: That's not that's not funny.

[14:37] Jesse McAnally: It's not funny. It's a horrendous scene in what is otherwise a very light-hearted like sitcom where there is just a horrific and to the credit of the show, it takes it as horrific as it is. Attempted rape scene with no trigger warnings, nothing. It's just disgusting.

[14:54] Alan Seales: And it does nothing but to say, hey, this guy we all think is an asshole. At least he's not this guy.

[15:03] Jesse McAnally: Oh, I'm sorry. I I didn't know you guys were still here.

[15:06] Alan Seales: Yeah, we sure are. So do you mind?

[15:12] Jesse McAnally: Miss Winkle, you okay?

[15:13] Alan Seales: Yeah, I'm fine.

[15:17] Jesse McAnally: No, I'm not, Marty. Would you take me home for you? Don't worry about it. I'll see she gets there. I I feel like this is all my fault. I introduced you.

[15:27] Alan Seales: Don't blame yourself. Maybe this is my fault. I dress this way because I want people to notice me.

[15:33] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, I guess certain people would. But that doesn't give anybody the right to do what he did.

[15:38] Alan Seales: Really? You think so?

[15:40] Jesse McAnally: Sure do. Oh, thank you. Oh. Why can't I find a guy like you?

[15:51] Alan Seales: Yeah, it gives it gives Marty the character of Marty Feniman a little bit of a redeeming quality. That I that he's not that other guy who is the worst person alive.

[16:01] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, he's bad, but he's not that bad.

[16:03] Alan Seales: Yeah, which is as far as I'm concerned, one of the laziest pieces of writing in here. And one of the least because a lot of times I think they're trying things that I haven't seen in sitcoms and things I find interesting if not poorly developed or executed. Um but let's go on with the characters.

[16:18] Jesse McAnally: Then you got Don Messick as Wally Wooster, who voices the their lead animated character, uh Dippy Duck, and he is a very renowned voice actor, but it's nice to get to see him on camera a lot and given a lot to do. Like he's given a romance subplot, he's given like a lot of things, and when he does show up in just minor bit parts, he really nails it.

[16:38] Alan Seales: Um I think he's great.

[16:39] Jesse McAnally: I do too. Then, but I think the biggest comedic foil and the one that really knows what show she's in, and probably my favorite character is Julie Payne as Aggie Aylesworth, um, who is kind of I don't particularly like how cruel they are about her appearance, but I think her as this stern comedic foil, she is pitch perfect.

[17:01] Alan Seales: You realize how many perfectly good paperclips people throw away around here.

[17:06] Jesse McAnally: April clips, is that what you're looking for? Brooke paperclip deck. Are you leaving with any?

[17:13] Alan Seales: I'll bring the rest in tomorrow.

[17:15] Jesse McAnally: Oh yeah. No, she came in knowing who her character is and and used it.

[17:19] Alan Seales: Yeah, I think the writing took cheap shots at her actual appearance because, you know, they it i it was the eighties and you know, s casual racism and misogyny. Uh but yeah, she came in, she came into every scene knowing exactly what she was doing.

[17:34] Jesse McAnally: Do you recognize her or her voice from anything?

[17:38] Alan Seales: Now I think I should.

[17:41] Jesse McAnally: See, when I was a kid, I used to watch the old Garfield specials a lot. She was Liz in all the Garfield specials into like the 21st century.

[17:55] Alan Seales: Nice.

[17:56] Jesse McAnally: Well, wait. She is an acclaimed voice actress. She died in 2019.

[18:00] Alan Seales: Oh, I that's not what Wikipedia says.

[18:03] Jesse McAnally: Um, but she was doing it all the way up to 2013. Twenty June 7th, 2019. She's 78 when she died.

[18:08] Alan Seales: I got okay. I got this from Wikipedia. Unless I'm looking at the wrong Julie Payne.

[18:12] Jesse McAnally: Um mine is Julie Payne in parentheses, actress born in 1946.

[18:16] Alan Seales: Yep, wrong Julie Payne.

[18:18] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, it's actually actress, comma underscore born, comma underscore. The one I was looking at was 46.

[18:25] Alan Seales: Uh, sorry, it was 40.

[18:26] Jesse McAnally: Oh yeah. Not to be confused with her.

[18:28] Alan Seales: No.

[18:29] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, okay. So 46. Okay. Wrong Julie Payne.

[18:32] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[18:32] Jesse McAnally: She also is more recently in um uh Kirby Enthusiasm as Lori David's mother-in-law.

[18:40] Alan Seales: Good for her. She is probably the best developed character, and I really enjoy her in it. And I also think she's real good looking. They just gave her a really shitty haircut. Like I feel like the the pot shots at her are really kind of cruel for no particular reason.

[18:54] Jesse McAnally: Agreed. Um then we also have Clancy Gilliard Jr. as Roland Culp. Um, I I'd hate he is the only like main person of color in the main cast. He is given a little bit of development later on. He is the storyboard artist in the Duck Factory, and his dad wanted him to be a dentist, and he decided to be a storyboard artist instead.

[19:17] Alan Seales: That was a fun episode. I enjoyed it a lot. I think he he's got a lot of good things. He has probably my favorite joke in the entire series where Jim Carrey needs to find someplace to stay for a night, and he gets it and pretends to be the voicemail.

[19:34] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[19:35] Alan Seales: He's like, but you've reached my voicemail, I'm probably asleep.

[19:38] Jesse McAnally: It's alright. I I didn't know. Forget he's like, yeah, I will. And then it's a great joke. It's like a good setup punchline, Sikami joke. Perfect ten out of ten.

[19:48] Alan Seales: Just calling to find out if you had a Roland's number. This is Roland's answering machine. Roland is currently asleep. So leave your name and I'll get back to you. This was just skip rolling. Forget it. I will.

[20:11] Jesse McAnally: That's unfortunate. He was 66.

[20:13] Alan Seales: It is, but he's had a good career, so to say, and I think that he's good in the show. Walker Texas Rangers, Matlock.

[20:22] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, he was underused. I actually something else I enjoyed about it too is that like he he wasn't in it to be the black guy. He was just part of the cast. And that that was respectable about the show. Again, talking about like an ensemble cast with half women and a person of color for 1984 was uh, you know, on mainstream media was not bad.

[20:39] Alan Seales: And not everyone was just kind of eye candy. Like I could've like Jim Carrey was young, but he's not like the hot young thing. And even like the one that we do quote unquote ogle a lot, which is Teresa Genzel, um, as Sherry Winkler, she's not really all that, you know, what is it called? Objectified.

[20:59] Jesse McAnally: Like she's not at all.

[21:00] Alan Seales: That's the thing. I would have liked to see this show go on for a little longer. Um not not just because it had decent ratings, not just because it got good reviews from basically all outlets, and not just because it got two Emmys when it got for the following Emmy Awards, and the fact that it was cancelled halfway through its run before they really even finished and figured out what the show was.

[21:22] Jesse McAnally: So let everyone out of their contracts before they realized oh we had something here.

[21:26] Alan Seales: Oh no. They had a long way to go. Like I wanted to see the relationship between Skip and uh and Andrea, you know, the characters. they they had great they had wonderful chemistry. And yeah, just this unassuming, you know, editor in the background and and I don't know. I thought it was great. I was really rooting for the two of them and hoping by episode thirteen, knowing that it was the final episode that something would happen.

[21:50] Jesse McAnally: Well, you got cheated just like the audience on NBC, because NBC for some reason decided to air the second episode last.

[22:00] Alan Seales: What?

[22:01] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, so they shot the episodes in order, they took that order, aired the pilot, and they were and the pilot ends on a cliffhanger where you're like, Well, we gotta wrap that up next week. We don't wrap it up next week. We just keep on going to other things. Jim Carrey's water bat explodes. And then we finally pay off that cliffhanger in the last episode of the season.

[22:20] Alan Seales: Oh my well.

[22:22] Jesse McAnally: No, nope, nope. Well No one knows why that happened, and it makes no sense because like everyone's relationship to Jim Carrey is different. They call him the incorrect name because he's relatively new after we spend a whole season of these people getting to know Skip.

[22:36] Alan Seales: Yeah, yeah.

[22:36] Jesse McAnally: That doesn't make sense. I don't I don't understand NBC Studio or d film TV studio execs at all.

[22:43] Alan Seales: We're not happy with them right now, anyway. Especially as we're recording.

[22:46] Jesse McAnally: Which was which was definitely a week after our last episode.

[22:50] Alan Seales: Definitely.

[22:50] Jesse McAnally: Not during the strike at all.

[22:51] Alan Seales: No, no.

[22:52] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, totally. Not at all. Not at all. There it isn't it to quote Wikipedia, it is unknown why NBC showed it so drastically out of order. I fa I was I was thinking through IMDB reviews and someone told someone like listed the order of the episodes you need to watch it on YouTube for have the correct story structure.

[23:09] Alan Seales: And it's like one, thirteen, ten, three, four, six, eight, two, five, nine, eleven, seven.

[23:16] Jesse McAnally: What? Wait, what's up? Okay, what's episode seven now? Like, what which one is that?

[23:21] Alan Seales: According to a YouTube version of it, I guess. I think our our copy is like matches what's Oh, so the last episode was an episode where okay, this tracks for me then.

[23:31] Jesse McAnally: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Spla explain it to me.

[23:34] Alan Seales: Okay. So episode one, um, Liz uh correct me. Pilot. Episode two is thirteen, which is the one where Jim Carrey resolves the cliffhanger from the pilot.

[23:43] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[23:44] Alan Seales: So in what we watched 13 was actually filmed as two.

[23:48] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[23:50] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[23:51] Alan Seales: Okay.

[23:51] Jesse McAnally: Now I gotta go back and rewatch all of it. But the episode where Brooks and the weirdest plot of any episode where Brooks and Mrs. Winkler end up having sex multiple times, him cheating on his wife with no consequences, and then I'm pretty sure his son shows up the next week and it never comes up.

[24:09] Alan Seales: That was supposed to be the season finale.

[24:11] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, the education of Mrs. Winkler.

[24:13] Alan Seales: Oh, okay.

[24:14] Jesse McAnally: Okay, okay. That makes sense. That feels like a good season finale where you have a lot of emotional things wrapping up. And I feel like that was also the one where Jim Carrey and um Nancy get paired up or Andrea get paired up.

[24:28] Alan Seales: Andrea, yeah.

[24:28] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. Um, but also, like, I don't know. It's an interesting thing. I think maybe that if this show was marketed and was shown in the correct order, it would have had a chance.

[24:39] Alan Seales: Well, then you've got the promo later after it's already aired. So that's before it is, and they actually had pretty good rings on that first airing. But then much later down the road, they basically give it five seconds where it's like, and the Duck Factory's on later this week. Um, here's some quotes from critics, but that's about it.

[24:59] Jesse McAnally: The critics and the fans agree the Duck Factory's a hit. A comic gem, and just what the doctor ordered. It's stylishly different, and brimming with likable characters. Terrific. Jim Carrey is a major find. Congratulations! The whole gang at the Duck Factory, Thursday.

[25:18] Alan Seales: That being said, what do we've talked fairly positive about this. What do you think doesn't work about this show?

[25:24] Jesse McAnally: Uh well, there's of course the misogyny and the casual racism. Um, like overall, um I I don't I don't think I think I want to say they don't make enough use of the fact that they are like they're the intro is a cartoon.

[25:47] Alan Seales: I was gonna say they don't make enough use of the duck, the actual cartoony bits. Um but I don't know if that would have improved the show or just confused it, but I feel like the whole premise could have been different. There's no need for an animated opening that didn't do anything, it was never used again.

[26:03] Jesse McAnally: But it is a catchy song.

[26:20] Alan Seales: Okay, back to Wake.

[26:22] Jesse McAnally: It is a great song, but I would rather see like the supercut of all of the episodes together as an intro that they normally did in the eighties. So, you know, like my brother and I could go through and be like, seen it, seen it, seen it. Oh, we gotta see that one. Seen it, seen it.

[26:36] Alan Seales: But it sure beats working for a living.

[26:40] Jesse McAnally: It goes for living these days. Um get back to Wake.

[26:46] Alan Seales: It's a great opening. I I'm gonna disagree with you. I love the animation. I love the animated pieces where they're like pitching animation and changing it as it goes. I think it's a really clever use.

[26:57] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[26:57] Alan Seales: I agree with that.

[26:58] Jesse McAnally: I agree with that. I think the show's closest comparison would be 30 Rock and how they use TGS and 30 Rock where they show it briefly and makes you want a little more of it, but in a good way. And I think that's how they use the animation in this show.

[27:15] Alan Seales: Hello.

[27:27] Jesse McAnally: And I love how accurate it is to the animation process. As you can tell, the creators worked in animation for their first jobs and took a lot of inspiration from that to create this. So the editors are working on actual editing reels, they have to use like the proper storyboard techniques. Like I really was fascinated by the actual world that they're integrated in and how they relate to the studio.

[27:51] Alan Seales: Maybe it was slightly inside baseball and average audiences didn't latch on to that, but me with that information was really connected to it.

[27:59] Jesse McAnally: Me too. I enjoyed a lot of the um like the plot twists that came in because things were gonna go over budget or over schedule, or things that, you know, us two, us three being in production and understanding that that's a big deal, like it struck a chord with me being like, Oh yeah, they gotta fix that. They gotta really pay attention to that, which to your point, yeah, now that you bring that up, probably for the average audience just went over their head and didn't find it as interesting. Like the stakes weren't high enough for them.

[28:28] Alan Seales: And uh that's both a problem with the show and I think a benefit to the show. That being said, the worst aspect of this show is its lack of identity as far as its format. It could have either been a proper three-camera studio audience sitcom, and it could have worked, or it could have been a single cam 30 Rock style, Columbo style, like proper narrative. But it meets in the middle where it is single cam, but with a laugh track that ruins everything.

[28:56] Jesse McAnally: I don't think it was shot with intention for a laugh track, so it just feels weird.

[29:01] Alan Seales: Yeah, there was not enough pausing to wait for laughter. So the laugh track's kind of forced in there because it I wonder if it was an afterthought, right? So they're like, Oh, it's not funny enough. It's funny, it's good, but it's not funny enough, so let's add in the laugh track to again explain to the audience that this animation humor should be funny.

[29:20] Jesse McAnally: I think the laugh track might have been what killed the show, honestly, if you want my tinfoil hat opinion. I'm like, that probably turned enough people off to this where they just it felt like they didn't trust the show enough.

[29:34] Alan Seales: I wonder, yeah, I wonder if the statistics on how many other shows of similar format at that time also had laugh tracks, if that was just the thing to do at that time, or if they did it as sort of like a Hail Mary because they thought it wouldn't be good enough.

[29:46] Jesse McAnally: Well, let's actually go into that. Um, we do have a little bit of a critical corner right here. I want to read two reviews, one from the Detroit Free Press from the air date, and one from the New York Times from the air date. First one is from Mike Duffy, the Detroit Free Press, released April 12th, 1984. Jim Carrey, gentle humor of a new series offers promise. The young innocent has just arrived in Hollywood, Skip Tarkington, wide-eyed filled with enthusiasm, and right off the bus from the Midwest, yearns to draw old cartoons for his hero, Buddy Winkler, the man who runs the Duck Factory, home of Dippy Duck. And so opens the Duck Factory, a very promising new NBC series that premieres at 9:30 tonight. The show is burdened with perhaps the year's most annoying laugh track. As Skip Tarkin, he says it looks like a winner, is the last words of that review. Except for the laugh track.

[30:28] Alan Seales: Looks like a winner doesn't sound like one.

[30:36] Jesse McAnally: It kind of really is. The New York Times John O'Connor said, The Duck Factory goes on its amiably dizzy and often hilarious way. The pacing is kept at the kind of perfect amble that keeps the characters and situations from tripping over each other. By the end of the first half hour, Skip, the cheerleader and one person that may be able to save the sinking fortunes of the business. After having Dippy Duck cancelled, Aggie is given a reprieve of forty-eight hours to come up with a new proposal to enliven the cartoon. And they say networks are cold and heartless. She blubbers into the phone. The new sitcom is off and running quite promisingly.

[31:08] Alan Seales: Well, that's too positive.

[31:10] Jesse McAnally: No, everyone was fairly positive toward this show. And it got decent ratings. Like even according to the Nielsen ratings, um, it ranked, I think 64 or 64 in the rank and 13.8 in the rating, which is pretty decent. Like, not amazing, but pretty good. Especially for a mid-season replacement.

[31:28] Alan Seales: Yeah, do we need to call up the unsolved mysteries and have them do an episode on why they canceled the show?

[31:33] Jesse McAnally: I I would I maybe it's budget, maybe it's contracts, maybe it was a change in regime. There's a lot of things that could have been, but it is kind of a bummer, considering I think on the whole, I prefer this to Jim Carrey's work on other shows like In Living Color. Mostly because I think this kind of is tapping into his more sincere side while the other stuff he does kind of just goes into the wild and wacky side, and I think when he plays both, he's playing the best work he does.

[32:01] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[32:01] Jesse McAnally: I agree.

[32:02] Alan Seales: I agree.

[32:02] Jesse McAnally: I and again, it may be because everything before this was just border softcore porn.

[32:08] Alan Seales: Or just weird with rubber face didn't really do anything.

[32:12] Jesse McAnally: I really really enjoyed him not trying to be a rubber face and to be a real character in this. It really helped make the story.

[32:23] Alan Seales: Well, there is an interview with Larry Verne, who worked as a crew member for the Duck Factory, that a courtesy of Jim Carrey online. This interview took place in 1998. He said he didn't work directly with Jim, but I did have the opportunity to meet and talk with him a couple times. A very friendly guy, not as animated as you might expect, certainly not like in his new work. I know nothing of Jim before working in the show, but I agree wholeheartedly that his talent and star power was wasted on that show. It seems like he was miscast in the straight role.

[32:49] Jesse McAnally: Of course, hindsight is 20/20. Who would you have cast him as?

[32:52] Alan Seales: There was no other role for him.

[32:53] Jesse McAnally: No, I don't think this is the right show for Jim Carrey. I think he was just like I think that he was just kind of felt wrong. And I think he knew he was he felt wrong, because when he was on David Letterman shortly after the cancellation, he does a wild act of impressions, and then when Letterman mentioned the show, Carrey pretended to start crying and said, I'm going to miss Jack Guilford's stories, which is kind of like, you know, a backhanded compliment.

[33:18] Alan Seales: Yep.

[33:18] Jesse McAnally: Yep, yeah.

[33:19] Alan Seales: Most quotes about Jim Carrey's made about this show during and even in more recent times, it's just like I loved working with Jack Guilford, he was a hero of mine.

[33:28] Jesse McAnally: Very impressive.

[33:29] Alan Seales: I I thought you were terrific on that program also Duck Factory.

[33:32] Jesse McAnally: The Duck Factory.

[33:36] Alan Seales: That was a great deal of fun to do. I loved it. Jack Guilford was especially fun to work with.

[33:40] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[33:41] Alan Seales: It was a nice idea. Nice show.

[33:42] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[33:42] Alan Seales: There must have been some onset drama.

[33:44] Jesse McAnally: You never know.

[33:45] Alan Seales: I think it was just kind of like I feel wasted here. Like he just comes up and he's like, I can't work with this waterbed anymore. This it's No, that's like the stuff he I think the waterbed is like him like, oh, I can just flop around and be wild a bit. Let's do it. It's more like, oh, I gotta do the romantic tension with the lady from A Chorus Line. I'll try, I guess.

[34:06] Jesse McAnally: Liz, I think you have some reviews for us, um, don't you?

[34:10] Alan Seales: I technically do, yes.

[34:11] Jesse McAnally: Why don't we play a game of one star or five star then?

[34:15] Alan Seales: I will explain this. If this happens to be your first episode of this show. Because you just really love the Duck Factory. Uh welcome. Um normally this game where I take letterbox reviews and I Alan and Jess here have to guess if they're one or five. The Duck Factory does not have a letterbox page at all.

[34:35] Jesse McAnally: My bad.

[34:36] Alan Seales: So and I looked up letterbox for TV, and no one bothered to review the Duck Factory on that. So Are there more likes than hates?

[34:56] Jesse McAnally: I'm not telling you that, because it's cheating.

[34:59] Alan Seales: That's right. I'll tell you that after.

[35:00] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, that's gonna start with Alan Results. Start with Alan.

[35:04] Alan Seales: His name starts with an A.

[35:05] Jesse McAnally: Alright.

[35:05] Alan Seales: Well, not not right now. I logged in as Schmalin Schmiels. Oh, let's do this. This is the ty this isn't the this is a title of a review. The body had nothing in it, I think. Uh, but I just thought this was funny, so I just thought I'd use it.

[35:19] Jesse McAnally: Oh, I thought the title of the review was The Body Had Nothing in It.

[35:22] Alan Seales: I was gonna No, no, the body reviewing producer had nothing in it.

[35:25] Jesse McAnally: Gotcha, gotcha.

[35:26] Alan Seales: So, uh, not unlike spending half an hour in fluorescently lit beige walled waiting room of some random small town dentist in the Midwest. Oddly specific one star.

[35:37] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[35:38] Alan Seales: Yes, that's five. Come on.

[35:45] Jesse McAnally: Someone's bid to the dentist. I understand that's a one-star review. I love my dentist. Alright, are you ready, Jess?

[35:53] Alan Seales: I'm always ready. Well, I got this on video as a birthday present, and I was shocked with what I saw.

[36:02] Jesse McAnally: Are you sure this wasn't a review for All in Good Taste?

[36:05] Alan Seales: No, no. All in Good Taste reasons are mostly about butts.

[36:09] Jesse McAnally: I'm giving that a five-star.

[36:11] Alan Seales: That's actually correct. Yeah!

[36:15] Jesse McAnally: Because I also bought the VHS for The Duck Factory at a thrift store. So I knew the first three episodes of the show very well.

[36:23] Alan Seales: And you were shocked?

[36:25] Jesse McAnally: I was shocked to know that the second episode, like the first episode cliffhanger actually had a resolution eventually. I liked it a lot, but I thought it was an ensemble comedy with Jack Guilford and the girl as the main characters, with Carrey as the loudmouth sidekick part. I was waiting for him to shut up, then the others could go back to the story.

[36:47] Alan Seales: Get off my lawn.

[36:51] Jesse McAnally: I think that's a one-star too.

[36:53] Alan Seales: That's actually a five.

[36:54] Jesse McAnally: No!

[36:56] Alan Seales: They liked it okay, Alan. Listen to the keywords. Alright, are you ready, Jess?

[37:02] Jesse McAnally: I'm always ready. Let's go. What I remember about The Duck Factory is that the Today show had Jim Carrey on to promo the show. He did Henry Fonda from On Golden Pond simply by putting on a fishing hat.

[37:15] Alan Seales: That sounds like Jim Carrey, a true classic.

[37:18] Jesse McAnally: Um, one star.

[37:20] Alan Seales: That's right. You'll get it, Alan. Are you ready, Alan?

[37:26] Alan Seales: Oh yeah. I remember seeing Ace Ventura and thinking, oh my god, it's the guy from that duck animation show. No one ever knew what I was talking about except my brother.

[37:38] Jesse McAnally: Tell me you have the year that this was written.

[37:40] Alan Seales: I'll find it.

[37:42] Jesse McAnally: I wanna say this is another five stars. Like, because it sounds like he likes Ace Ventura.

[37:48] Alan Seales: That is correct.

[37:49] Jesse McAnally: Yay! He liked Ace Ventura, he liked the duck animation show. Everything lined up for him to like it. Um, and his brother might have liked it too. We can't get a quote from him yet. And it sounds like he did take a large sample size asking people if they knew who that guy was.

[38:04] Alan Seales: That guy being Jim Carrey.

[38:06] Jesse McAnally: Jim Carrey. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm Jim Carrey. Uh yeah, that's the review's like, it's funny. I grew up watching this guy in The Duck Factory, and now he's in Ace Ventura. Like, that's the entire review.

[38:21] Alan Seales: That is pretty funny. I was wondering if it came out like right after Ace Ventura in like the 90s.

[38:25] Jesse McAnally: Uh, let me see what it's written.

[38:27] Alan Seales: Is there in a 2006?

[38:28] Jesse McAnally: Okay. I mean, that was right when he hit his career low.

[38:31] Alan Seales: Alright. Alright, just my turn?

[38:34] Jesse McAnally: Yes, it's your turn.

[38:35] Alan Seales: It's almost back to the future game. If you just if you come in cold, your mileage may vary.

[38:41] Jesse McAnally: It's not inaccurate.

[38:43] Alan Seales: That is a true statement. I am giving that a one.

[38:47] Jesse McAnally: That's a five.

[38:48] Alan Seales: Oh shit.

[38:50] Jesse McAnally: I would have given it a one too.

[38:51] Alan Seales: Glad that was.

[38:52] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. That was a trick one.

[38:53] Alan Seales: Yeah, that was a toughie. His mileage sounded like it varied. Alright, Alan, are you ready?

[38:58] Alan Seales: Yes.

[38:59] Jesse McAnally: I liked his performances as the Riddler in Batman Forever, and as Dick Harper in the remake of Fun with Dick and Jane. Now those were funny.

[39:09] Alan Seales: One star.

[39:10] Jesse McAnally: Everyone's favorite movie. Fun with Dick and Jane. Out of all of his career, just go Fun with Dick and Jane.

[39:18] Alan Seales: Yeah. I mean, if you're really into like, you know, Enron and you have a lot of opinions on that, yeah, that film's a fucking laugh riot.

[39:27] Jesse McAnally: Alright. You ready, Jess?

[39:29] Alan Seales: I'm ready. Where's the cat, quack?

[39:33] Jesse McAnally: That's the whole thing. That was that's it. You gotta do the hand motions with it.

[39:37] Alan Seales: That's a five.

[39:39] Jesse McAnally: That is a five. Where's the cat?

[39:43] Alan Seales: Alright, we got two left. Alright, ready. You're currently tied, so if one of you misses it, the other one wins.

[39:49] Jesse McAnally: Oh god. I was doing okay until I heard that.

[39:52] Alan Seales: Unless we both miss it.

[39:54] Jesse McAnally: That's right. And then you'll then you're tied.

[39:56] Alan Seales: Okay. Alright. Are you ready, Alan?

[39:58] Alan Seales: Yep.

[39:59] Jesse McAnally: I'm all for actors trying to stretch their wings, but don't get angry when people don't exactly jump up, applauding and throwing awards at you.

[40:06] Alan Seales: They won two Emmys. What the fuck are you talking about?

[40:10] Jesse McAnally: Don't wait. Read that again. Read that again.

[40:13] Alan Seales: Okay. I'm all for actors trying to stretch their wings, but don't get angry when people don't exactly jump up, applauding and throw awards at you.

[40:21] Jesse McAnally: Like that sounds like a personal attack on something that happened outside of the show, not a review of the show itself, so this is a tricky one.

[40:28] Alan Seales: I'm gonna I'm gonna go one star on this.

[40:31] Jesse McAnally: Oh, it's a five.

[40:33] Alan Seales: What?

[40:34] Jesse McAnally: And I am the champion!

[40:37] Alan Seales: No, no, no, you had to get us a pretty stairs. You can still lose, you can still lose to Ty.

[40:42] Jesse McAnally: This is also actually there's no way for me to lose. This is also slightly tricky. This could be pretty entertaining if you watched it with the right group of hecklers.

[40:51] Alan Seales: Aw. Hecklers is a negative term.

[40:54] Jesse McAnally: But it also no, I'm not helping you out. I'm going one. That's my gut.

[41:00] Alan Seales: Yeah, just one.

[41:01] Jesse McAnally: No the champion!

[41:05] Alan Seales: My friend! There's always once been Alan.

[41:08] Jesse McAnally: Well, it's okay. It's alright. It's okay. I'm sorry. What is our overall thoughts on The Duck Factory and our ratings? Is it a no spank you or an alrighty then? Alan, why don't you go first?

[41:21] Alan Seales: I'm gonna give this my first alrighty then. I think I'm gonna agree with you. This is a very high alrighty then. Yeah. Like even compared to a lot of Jim Carrey's other work, I think this if I were doing my tier list eventually, I would probably rank this a little higher than things you would expect me.

[41:37] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. Like I'd put this over Man on the Moon and The Majestic easily. Um, on that note, Liz, what about you?

[41:45] Alan Seales: Uh I enjoyed it. It was it was fun. It was very 30 Rock-esque. I think the laugh track was aggro, but it's nice. Was I see a female character that was just kind of dumb and not sexy? She was just kind of not that smart.

[41:56] Jesse McAnally: Like she wasn't objectified by all the other men.

[42:00] Alan Seales: She was pretty objectified by the men, but the camera didn't.

[42:08] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, the camera and the wardrobe too. I meant to bring that up earlier. She was always dressed modestly for the most part.

[42:13] Alan Seales: Yeah, she was really like very nice like suits. It was like very it was refreshing. And I like you know, a reasonable skirt.

[42:20] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. And I personally, like, when Jim Carrey goes nuts, I lose him a little, and I'm like, wow, okay, I get it, I get it. You're crazy. But this is a very nice break from it. Like, okay, he's a straight man, he's handling it well, he's funny enough. I enjoyed this. So it's a nice palette cleanser from the weird stuff we've had as well, if you listen to the previous episodes.

[42:40] Alan Seales: Oh, definitely. His voice in this reminds me a lot of Mark Hamill's performance in the 1977 Star Wars. Like everything is kind of given like a little whine. He's got like that, oh it's going to Tatooine for power converters. Like he's going down on every line. Like, come on, Mrs. Winkler. Oh, come on, eh. You know you don't want to do that.

[43:04] Jesse McAnally: Well, I'm sorry, I can't do that for you. He's doing his best. His intonation. It's weird.

[43:11] Alan Seales: Okay. Here is my hardcore, probably Jim Carrey's the worst performer in the show by a lot.

[43:18] Jesse McAnally: Hmm. Hot take.

[43:19] Alan Seales: That is a take indeed.

[43:21] Jesse McAnally: Hot take. Well, it's also the most in it's also the most we've seen him since we started this, since that rubber face. Because he was in its supporting roles since like Copper Mountain.

[43:32] Alan Seales: Jim Carrey would have been better as a supporting role in this rather than the lead.

[43:37] Jesse McAnally: Interesting.

[43:38] Alan Seales: Interesting. Very interesting. Given the characters that we have, everybody else was more established. I don't like I just don't know if he really belonged in this as younger Jim Carrey as Jim Carrey in his life at that point. Like if it was ninety-four and he was ten years older, he would have fit as one of the jaded, experienced animators.

[43:58] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. Well, yes.

[44:03] Alan Seales: Yeah, he was busy in ninety-four different. I can see how he was yeah, he was the pretty much the only straight guy. Yeah, everyone else had a comedic bit. He didn't really, except for sincere.

[44:16] Jesse McAnally: Right. Yeah.

[44:16] Alan Seales: I didn't mind it. I think he wish you could have had more fun, but I didn't mind it. I didn't mind it all. Like I said, already then.

[44:23] Jesse McAnally: Definitely.

[44:25] Alan Seales: Yeah, definitely an already then. It's a firm already then like I'm not even debating it. I think it's not it's probably number one in the rank currently.

[44:33] Jesse McAnally: Number one so far out of all.

[44:34] Alan Seales: Yeah, everyone so far out of six. I think as a whole, I like this better. I think Jim Carrey was better utilized in Rubber Face / Introducing Janet.

[44:43] Jesse McAnally: That's well, it better utilized in what regard?

[44:47] Alan Seales: Being a rubber-faced.

[45:01] Jesse McAnally: But Jim Carrey kinda comes off pretty well as like, you know, I'm sincere, like I need some jokes written for me, and here I am gonna be a little goofy guy. And he works good as just a little goofy guy.

[45:11] Alan Seales: Yeah, I can't get past the sexism.

[45:14] Jesse McAnally: No.

[45:14] Alan Seales: I feel I feel like too that that oh wait, the sexism in The Duck Factory or no, in Rubber Face.

[45:19] Jesse McAnally: Rubber Face in The Duck Factory. Like, that's fine. It was the 80s, it was a sitcom. These things happen. We've hopefully learned and moved on.

[45:27] Alan Seales: We've hopefully we learned that.

[45:31] Jesse McAnally: We probably have though.

[45:33] Alan Seales: No, that's a strong one.

[45:33] Jesse McAnally: No, 30 Rock's from learn, and it was like a lot of things.

[45:35] Alan Seales: Strong, I'm sorry.

[45:36] Jesse McAnally: Strong, I'm sorry on that one.

[45:38] Alan Seales: I'm strong, I'm sorry.

[45:40] Jesse McAnally: I'm sorry. Um, speaking of the worst, thank you guys for listening. Please follow us on iTunes, Spotify, and Google Podcast at Carrey'd Away with Jess and Alan. Twitter at Carrey'd Away Pod, Instagram Carrey'd Away Pod, email us at Carrey'd Away podcast at gmail.com. Our title card was created by the one and only Grace Aki. Go follow them on Instagram at it's Grace Aki. This show is produced and edited by Elizabeth Eston, and she's doing a fantastic job, I'm sure. Our theme song is I Choose You by the band Thanks. Thank you to the Broadway Podcast Network for having us on the platform and for not kicking us off for saying sorry too many times.

[46:22] Alan Seales: Um, it's close. It's coming close.

[46:26] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, I almost wore a shirt that says we're sorry to this. And I didn't at the last time.

[46:33] Alan Seales: It's okay. I mean, not as sorry as Jim Carrey is. Um, there is so much to say about The Duck Factory. I honestly didn't get it all out. I feel like we could have done an entire episode about when Jack Guilford's character has multiple sexual encounters with the trophy wife of the dead man and cheated on his wife.

[46:50] Jesse McAnally: You know what? If we get enough love for that, we will do a commentary for every episode of The Duck Factory.

[46:58] Alan Seales: That's right. We will totally, yeah. You won. It's 13 episodes, 400 minutes. We got this.

[47:04] Jesse McAnally: You won't. Two at Watches of The Godfather. We can we can play it back in 2x speed, too. You know, we get the one.

[47:10] Alan Seales: Yeah, we're like one and a half.

[47:11] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. One and a half. There you go. One plus one. One and a half. Alright. Get back to work. We'll see you next one.

[47:15] Alan Seales: Get back to work on the Carrey'd Away podcast.