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[0:08] Tommy Bracco: Hi guys, it's Tommy.

[0:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: And Angelica.

[0:11] Phil Bracco: And I'm Phil.

[0:12] Tommy Bracco: Oh God.

[0:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: And welcome to Real Tawk.

[0:15] Tommy Bracco: Um, all right, so today is gonna be a weird episode.

[0:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Uh Nicole.

[0:20] Tommy Bracco: Not a weird episode, a crazy episode.

[0:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm calling it weird.

[0:23] Tommy Bracco: I'm a little in this I'm in a somber mood.

[0:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: I am.

[0:25] Phil Bracco: I'm really sad.

[0:26] Tommy Bracco: Nicole just got evicted.

[0:27] Phil Bracco: Oh god.

[0:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Sad.

[0:29] Tommy Bracco: I know her so much.

[0:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: I was a little teary-eyed.

[0:32] Tommy Bracco: And honestly, her she went.

[0:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, listen, we have a lot to unpack.

[0:36] Tommy Bracco: Okay, now I'm getting started.

[0:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: Now I'm not somber mood.

[0:39] Tommy Bracco: Somber mood over.

[0:41] Phil Bracco: But it was it was a really emotional motion.

[0:44] Tommy Bracco: But we need to establish something real quick.

[0:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[0:47] Tommy Bracco: Are you sad for her that she's out of the house now?

[0:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's gonna be going through something, she went through something, or are you sad that she is out of the game?

[0:56] Tommy Bracco: Because those are two separate things.

[0:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: I am not sad she is out of the game.

[1:00] Tommy Bracco: She was to me she was not playing the game.

[1:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel sad for her because I love her as a person.

[1:05] Tommy Bracco: I enjoy watching her.

[1:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know that she went through stuff and is, you know, dealing with a hard time right now.

[1:12] Tommy Bracco: It's two separate things.

[1:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: So which one is it?

[1:14] Tommy Bracco: So I know Nicole is obsessed with Big Brother.

[1:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: She loves Big Brother.

[1:18] Tommy Bracco: And it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to go on the show.

[1:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: She was gifted it twice, and the second time around was uh was not what she'd hoped it would be.

[1:30] Tommy Bracco: I know that.

[1:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: So you're sad for her.

[1:31] Tommy Bracco: I'm sad that it didn't go better.

[1:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I'm sad for her leaving the game.

[1:37] Tommy Bracco: You enjoyed her gameplay.

[1:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Uh no, she did not have a good week, but I enjoy watching her play the game.

[1:43] Tommy Bracco: You you can tell that Nicole has so much heart when she plays.

[1:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: She she has so much passion, so much drive.

[1:49] Tommy Bracco: She did not stop fighting or campaigning until the very last second.

[1:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: We really did not know how these votes were gonna go tonight.

[1:56] Tommy Bracco: No.

[1:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Even from watching the feeds, it was really a toss-up.

[1:59] Tommy Bracco: And I think that that's I don't I don't know.

[2:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: I just think she's amazing.

[2:02] Tommy Bracco: I really do.

[2:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think she's incredible too.

[2:05] Tommy Bracco: And I like I said, I enjoy watching her, and I feel very sorry for her, but I she didn't start playing until after her back was up against the wall for two days.

[2:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: She wasn't even playing it to begin with.

[2:20] Tommy Bracco: Sorry for myself.

[2:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: The first day she was crying.

[2:22] Tommy Bracco: She was saying, I don't want to be here, I want to go home.

[2:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like she was not about it.

[2:27] Tommy Bracco: She really didn't start playing until a few days ago.

[2:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think that her strategy was to lay low, but I think it was it it just didn't work.

[2:33] Tommy Bracco: The strategy, it wasn't a good one.

[2:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, you know, this is all stars, and people want to see you play, they want to see see you step up to the plate, and she tried to just hang out in the shadows until the appropriate time.

[2:46] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[2:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like last year, and it didn't work out that way.

[2:49] Tommy Bracco: You know, obviously, Nicole had a rough week.

[2:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: We were watching the feeds, and uh she was dealing with a lot of paranoia, a lot of PTSD from last season.

[2:57] Tommy Bracco: Uh, you lose yourself in that house.

[3:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: We watched that happen to Christy last year.

[3:02] Tommy Bracco: Um, you guys know Christie, she doesn't cry a lot in real life.

[3:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, she was crying nonstop.

[3:07] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, she lost herself in the house.

[3:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: People do it every single season.

[3:11] Tommy Bracco: People lose themselves in that house.

[3:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: That happened to Nicole.

[3:14] Tommy Bracco: It's understandable, especially something like her saying, I want Janelle's head on a stick.

[3:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's not Nicole.

[3:22] Tommy Bracco: I mean, I don't know her very well, but I've met her a few times.

[3:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know her through you and what you talk about her.

[3:26] Tommy Bracco: That's not well, Nicole is a savage.

[3:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: That she does have that side of her.

[3:31] Tommy Bracco: Like, like that's more than being on the savage.

[3:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's a New York.

[3:33] Tommy Bracco: That's more than being a savage.

[3:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm okay with someone saying like that.

[3:37] Tommy Bracco: Uh I guess just because I'm so obsessed with Janelle, I wasn't.

[3:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Absolutely.

[3:41] Tommy Bracco: Listen, I get it.

[3:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: It it's rough to watch the feeds.

[3:44] Tommy Bracco: Okay, actually, let's talk about game.

[3:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: So it's hard to watch Nicole go against Janelle on the feeds when we know that Janelle is rooting for her.

[3:54] Tommy Bracco: But would it have affected her game?

[3:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't think so.

[3:57] Tommy Bracco: So say she knew all along that Janelle was actually on her side.

[4:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: It wouldn't have mattered.

[4:02] Tommy Bracco: It literally wouldn't have mattered.

[4:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: In fact, it was actually better for Nicole's game that she was uh going into every campaign.

[4:10] Tommy Bracco: I'm targeting Janelle.

[4:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[4:11] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[4:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: But if she didn't know that, if she if she really thought that Janelle was on her side and she didn't have that as a part of her campaign, I think that she would have stood even less of a chance of staying.

[4:22] Tommy Bracco: 100%.

[4:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: But that has nothing to do with her playing the game or not.

[4:25] Tommy Bracco: I'm not saying that she wasn't playing the game because she wasn't trusting Janelle.

[4:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: She wasn't playing the game because she wasn't playing the game.

[4:31] Tommy Bracco: She was just hanging out with Kevin, not doing much.

[4:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: She wasn't campaigning when she first got put on the block.

[4:37] Tommy Bracco: So I think the edits were very interesting tonight, showing all the house guests telling her that Janelle was against her.

[4:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes.

[4:44] Tommy Bracco: And why she felt the way she did.

[4:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: So the people that want to criticize her on Twitter without knowing everything, it's annoying.

[4:52] Tommy Bracco: It's annoying to see why she acted like she did.

[4:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Grow up people.

[4:57] Tommy Bracco: Okay.

[4:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Grow up people.

[4:58] Tommy Bracco: Okay, okay, okay.

[4:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're no better than them when you say things like grow up.

[5:01] Tommy Bracco: That's not productive.

[5:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, yes, Twitter is an ugly place.

[5:04] Tommy Bracco: We know that.

[5:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Somebody right away.

[5:06] Tommy Bracco: I'm gonna give kudos to somebody.

[5:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[5:08] Tommy Bracco: Alright.

[5:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[5:09] Tommy Bracco: It was a tweet by Andy Heron.

[5:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Love Andy.

[5:14] Tommy Bracco: And he said, I didn't can't read my handwriting.

[5:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're lying!

[5:21] Tommy Bracco: I got it, got it, got it.

[5:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Now I I wrote down notes.

[5:23] Tommy Bracco: I did not write down the whole tweet.

[5:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: So what is the point of the wrong thing?

[5:28] Tommy Bracco: This is horrible.

[5:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: I went to go get it.

[5:30] Tommy Bracco: I went to go get it, and he must have deleted it.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's not there no more.

[5:33] Tommy Bracco: But the gist of the whole thing was social media is ruining the game of Big Brother because people don't want to vote out of fan favorites because they might get criticized, so they don't do it.

[5:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: That is a problem with the game right now.

[5:48] Tommy Bracco: You can't worry about what's gonna be perceived by Twitter because that is a problem with the game.

[5:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's my my rant for today.

[5:58] Tommy Bracco: I'm sorry.

[5:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel like he thinks Twitter is a person at this point.

[6:01] Tommy Bracco: I don't Twitter horrible.

[6:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Horrible.

[6:06] Tommy Bracco: I can't even talk on Twitter because I want to kill people, so I just don't get on it.

[6:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Are you on Reddit?

[6:11] Tommy Bracco: Reddit is worse.

[6:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Reddit is dead.

[6:12] Tommy Bracco: No, I'm not really so don't even go near Reddit if this is how you feel about it.

[6:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: I have a Reddit account, but I go on once in a while, but I don't really What's your name on Reddit?

[6:23] Tommy Bracco: It's probably B Bop Brockle.

[6:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know.

[6:27] Tommy Bracco: He knows he's like, oh, it's probably B B Bop Rocco.

[6:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I don't know for sure.

[6:33] Tommy Bracco: Like he knew right away.

[6:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, no, I don't know for sure.

[6:36] Tommy Bracco: So I by the way, kudos to Andy.

[6:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was a great tweet.

[6:39] Tommy Bracco: I really I'm not sure.

[6:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: If that was the tweet, because we don't have the tweet.

[6:42] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, we don't actually know what the tweet was, guys.

[6:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'll keep looking for it, but I think he took it all.

[6:48] Tommy Bracco: Um back to Nicole though and the edit and everything.

[6:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: I did love when she started playing.

[6:54] Tommy Bracco: I loved what she said to Dayvon.

[6:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: I loved her and Zayvon's conversation.

[6:59] Tommy Bracco: Um she made great points, and she literally got Zayvon to be like, listen, yeah, you're that's a sick pitch, but I can't.

[7:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: You have to take into account what is going on in the world.

[7:12] Tommy Bracco: Real life affects the game.

[7:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: And that's that's part of it.

[7:16] Tommy Bracco: It's And I would love for an African American person to win.

[7:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why can't that be Daevon?

[7:21] Tommy Bracco: Why can't she be focused on the wheel?

[7:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, that was her game and to make her goal herself the winner of Big Brother and do nothing and make no other choice but to benefit her game so that she is in control of creating this narrative where a now African American woman is the winner of Big Brother.

[7:39] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[7:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: I understand both of your points.

[7:42] Tommy Bracco: Like, because you know my dad and I discussed it this week.

[7:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: And he said that he doesn't think that Dayvon should vote based on David's race.

[7:52] Tommy Bracco: Solely.

[7:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Solely based on David's race.

[7:54] Tommy Bracco: So I understand.

[7:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: I understand your point.

[7:56] Tommy Bracco: But I mean, wait, I want okay.

[7:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: You go first.

[7:59] Tommy Bracco: And then I'll come in.

[8:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: I understand wanting to vote that way in the beginning, right?

[8:04] Tommy Bracco: I didn't.

[8:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: When David tells her, uh yeah, I'm in an alliance and I I can't tell your names because I I can't, I don't feel comfortable, and then calm down.

[8:14] Tommy Bracco: That goes out the window at that point.

[8:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I hear you.

[8:16] Tommy Bracco: That's all I'm saying.

[8:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: What I'm saying is that Big Brother is you're taking what's happening in society and putting it under a magnetic.

[8:25] Tommy Bracco: Right, and that's why we're saying it's okay that that is the situation in the first place.

[8:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: But then when this guy is sitting in front of you telling you, yeah, I'm in an alliance, but I don't want to tell you with who, that goes out the window.

[8:35] Tommy Bracco: I know it doesn't go out the window though, because it's a major thing that's affecting society right now, the black lesson.

[8:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right, and that's why I'm saying it's okay that that was the situation in the first place.

[8:45] Tommy Bracco: Yes, yes.

[8:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Listen, I even might say that I agree that I wish Daevon voted based more on game tonight.

[8:52] Tommy Bracco: Because I do think that's a good thing.

[8:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: U Big Brother old stuff is where Devon is the winner.

[8:56] Tommy Bracco: I would absolutely obsessed with her.

[8:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um you were in the house five weeks, I'm on three times.

[9:02] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[9:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Don't tell me how to play the game.

[9:04] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[9:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then you still vote for him, right?

[9:07] Tommy Bracco: It didn't matter because they didn't have the votes.

[9:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Again, again, so they didn't have the votes because Dayvon wouldn't get on board.

[9:12] Tommy Bracco: I think that if Daevon would have gotten on board, then Bailey would have, then Janelle would have, then Casey would have, then Enzo would have thrown his rogue vote in there, too.

[9:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: But who knows if Anzel would have voted that way then.

[9:23] Tommy Bracco: Um he didn't know where everyone was going.

[9:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: They could have just kept it a secret.

[9:28] Tommy Bracco: Now hold on.

[9:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: You told me that when you're going to go vote, you kind of know what everybody's gonna do.

[9:33] Tommy Bracco: Yes, that's true, but there's something called a blind side, and that is when you think that everyone's gonna vote one way, but they vote the other way.

[9:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's what would have happened this week.

[9:41] Tommy Bracco: Well, I'm interested.

[9:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm interested to hear Enzo and the DR talk about this if they bring it up.

[9:46] Tommy Bracco: We don't know what happened with Enzo's vote tonight.

[9:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Was it a rogue vote on purpose?

[9:51] Tommy Bracco: Was it uh just by accident?

[9:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because I could all say that.

[9:54] Tommy Bracco: I'm sure we can find that on the live feeds tonight.

[9:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, yeah, it'll be a good one.

[9:57] Tommy Bracco: No, because he's not gonna talk to any um we don't know.

[10:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Maybe he will.

[10:01] Tommy Bracco: We don't know.

[10:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: We because we don't know what that vote was for.

[10:03] Tommy Bracco: So he might come out and be like, what the hell, guys?

[10:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, you don't know.

[10:08] Tommy Bracco: Or it might be a rogue vote and he's keeping it to himself.

[10:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: We'll see.

[10:11] Tommy Bracco: But um listen, just to close off that chapter of us talking about Dayvon and her game this week, I think that what we have to keep in mind is Big Brother is a reflection on real life.

[10:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: And in real life, in our society, the Black Lives Matter movement is very prominent, and it's showing up in the game, and that's part of Big Brother.

[10:33] Tommy Bracco: So that's how the game evolves.

[10:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: So when you know that is fair, exactly.

[10:37] Tommy Bracco: That is fair.

[10:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: I just got one more thing.

[10:38] Tommy Bracco: Like I get what you're saying.

[10:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Game-wise, it makes more sense for Daevon as an individual to keep Nicole.

[10:44] Tommy Bracco: But it's bigger than that for her.

[10:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's about society, but it's about representation.

[10:50] Tommy Bracco: I wanted to speak first.

[10:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's what I wanted to say.

[10:52] Tommy Bracco: I'm just saying you have to take that stuff into account.

[10:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like it's a good thing.

[10:55] Tommy Bracco: We didn't disagree with the team.

[10:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: We said that, and we said, but once you start getting into the details of the week, I mean it was really dumb.

[11:02] Tommy Bracco: David literally said, Hey, I have an alliance, but I'm not telling you who's in it.

[11:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[11:07] Tommy Bracco: Uh, and I also want you to not talk to me the way you are.

[11:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like that was ridiculous.

[11:13] Tommy Bracco: When you need her vote.

[11:14] Phil Bracco: Alright, here's my opinion.

[11:15] Tommy Bracco: All right.

[11:16] Phil Bracco: Whenever you find out about an alliance, I don't care if it's week one, week two, week eight, week nine, or finale, uh, final five.

[11:24] Tommy Bracco: Okay, it doesn't matter.

[11:25] Phil Bracco: You find out about it, you gotta break it up.

[11:27] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[11:27] Phil Bracco: I'm gonna give you a couple of examples and why I believe we had to evict David tonight.

[11:32] Tommy Bracco: Okay, give you examples.

[11:34] Phil Bracco: Number one uh All-Stars, first all-stars, season seven.

[11:38] Tommy Bracco: Dr.

[11:38] Phil Bracco: Will came on with my boogie, and they both wore t-shirts like I wearing now, they say Chilltown.

[11:44] Tommy Bracco: He is wearing his chilltown T shirt for anyone that's not watching.

[11:48] Phil Bracco: With attitudes and said, We're a duo, what are you gonna do about it?

[11:52] Tommy Bracco: And every one of those people say we gotta break it up.

[11:52] Phil Bracco: We gotta break it up.

[11:56] Tommy Bracco: They didn't do it.

[11:57] Phil Bracco: What happened?

[11:57] Tommy Bracco: They made it to the top four.

[11:59] Phil Bracco: And who won?

[12:01] Tommy Bracco: Um Boogie did.

[12:02] Phil Bracco: That's right.

[12:03] Tommy Bracco: Would he have won if if they would have took him out earlier?

[12:06] Phil Bracco: No.

[12:07] Tommy Bracco: Your season, Nicole had the opportunity to vote out as showman's, didn't do it.

[12:12] Phil Bracco: What happened?

[12:12] Tommy Bracco: Final two, the showman's.

[12:14] Phil Bracco: Yeah, you gotta break it up as soon as you find out about it.

[12:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: So you're saying once Nicole found out that Dayvon was gonna vote to keep David no matter what, no matter what, then she should have she should have used that as her campaign.

[12:32] Tommy Bracco: Okay, I get what you're saying.

[12:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: So if you if I'm Nicole, I'm on the block, I pitch to Dave on she says, I'm not gonna vote David out, I'm sorry.

[12:39] Tommy Bracco: Then I go around to the house and I say more than that.

[12:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's more than that.

[12:43] Tommy Bracco: Oh, when David said his alliance.

[12:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, he told Dave on that he has an alliance.

[12:50] Tommy Bracco: So you but if Dayvon, uh Nicole didn't know that.

[12:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, but he's saying he's saying Nicole should use that.

[12:57] Tommy Bracco: Dayvon should use that.

[12:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like David should have gone home for multiple reasons.

[13:01] Tommy Bracco: And they all see all know about it.

[13:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because Nicole knows that David's in an alliance, and now Dayvon knows that David's in an alliance.

[13:07] Tommy Bracco: And when you find out about an alliance, you need to break them up people.

[13:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: It doesn't matter anymore.

[13:11] Tommy Bracco: Absolutely.

[13:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: And they also know about the other one with Cody.

[13:13] Tommy Bracco: They know about that one.

[13:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: They don't know all six.

[13:16] Tommy Bracco: They know four or five of the six.

[13:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: They don't have them all yet, but they know about that too.

[13:20] Tommy Bracco: So they did nothing to break any of them up.

[13:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, but evicted Nicole.

[13:24] Tommy Bracco: I'm sorry.

[13:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was stupid.

[13:25] Tommy Bracco: It was very stupid.

[13:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was a dumb game move.

[13:27] Tommy Bracco: I completely agree with you.

[13:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: What Nicole probably could have done is say, I found out that Dayvon is gonna always vote to keep David in the house.

[13:37] Tommy Bracco: So is Bailey.

[13:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: So that is a trio.

[13:40] Tommy Bracco: It comes down to numbers.

[13:41] Tommy Bracco: You want to break up the trio, you want to weaken the trio. So vote out David, and then they're a duo. You break up the numbers. That's what she should have said to the rest of the house. And David has an alliance with other people in the house. Well, that wouldn't have made sense if I'm pitching to that alliance because they want to keep him.

[14:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: I wanted to talk about Janelle. I felt so bad for her when she was crying in the bed. I just love her so much. Janelle's perfect. She really is. I really love her so much, and I just feel like she—how about how she competed tonight?

[14:14] Tommy Bracco: Okay, I just have to like set the scene before you go. Well, watching the HOH tonight.

[14:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, no, no. Let me talk about it.

[14:20] Tommy Bracco: Okay, go ahead.

[14:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: I just cut her off.

[14:22] Tommy Bracco: Now you're cutting me off.

[14:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because you had jumped.

[14:24] Tommy Bracco: And then I'll cut you off.

[14:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Go, go, go. Go ahead, go, go.

[14:27] Phil Bracco: Nicole's speech was great.

[14:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Savage tonight. Was great.

[14:32] Phil Bracco: That's awesome.

[14:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: She said. Hold on, please. Can somebody get Franny?

[14:42] Phil Bracco: Get out of here.

[14:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: She walked away a little bit about it. Um, okay. So what she said tonight was savage. She said, uh this is all stars, not all scared. She said, Memphis, big strong man you are. Kudos to you. You got me out. Yeah, and she put a nice big pause before me because Nicole's not a threat.

[15:03] Phil Bracco: Right.

[15:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was stupid. It was a dumb, dumb, dumb. And then she said, and for all those that had a pregame alliance, kudos to you too. I was like, whoa. Whoa.

[15:12] Phil Bracco: Yeah, you love Sean.

[15:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: She said it all. She said it all. Because she honestly, you know what? At the end of the day, Nicole is a bigger threat in the game than David because she knows the game. She knows how to survive in this house. Um, she's just a better player. You know, don't underestimate her. And that speech proves it.

[15:31] Phil Bracco: Yeah, and then the final thing about the speech at the end when she gets voted out, Memphis was afraid to go near her.

[15:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, yeah. And she was like, come on, even you, bring it up.

[15:39] Phil Bracco: Yeah, that was so awkward, that hug.

[15:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: I gotta say though, the way listen, I know that Nicole had a rough time this week. She was extremely paranoid on the feeds. Uh, Twitter was not kind to her, sure. But the way that she went out tonight was so classy. The way that she apologized about being wrong about Janelle.

[15:58] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[15:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: And Julie really, really came to the city.

[16:01] Phil Bracco: Oh my god, Julie went in on her.

[16:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Julie was Julie was in rare form tonight.

[16:05] Phil Bracco: No, Julie.

[16:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, yes, that's because Julie was replaced with a robot.

[16:09] Phil Bracco: That was not Julie that we saw tonight. That was a different thing.

[16:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Chen Bot. That's what I saw online.

[16:14] Phil Bracco: Chenba.

[16:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, seriously, though, she went out very classy. That's the perfect way to work.

[16:20] Phil Bracco: She did. It was the perfect. Listen, if she's gonna leave, and uh if all the crazy mayhem was gonna happen this week, she handled it great. I'm so proud of her. I really am. I'm so proud of her.

[16:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: I did I teared up a little bit on my own. I teared up when Danny said happy birthday to her daughter, and she's like, that was so cute.

[16:37] Phil Bracco: And it's Danny's birthday too.

[16:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, it's Danny's birthday. So I guess it's the same birthday as her daughter.

[16:42] Phil Bracco: Yeah, Tennessee is her daughter.

[16:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was so cute. That was so cute. I was like crying.

[16:47] Phil Bracco: I know.

[16:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: I literally got like teared up. Because the way that she was so choked up and so emotional, she said, I just want to say really quickly happy birthday to my daughter, Tennessee.

[16:57] Phil Bracco: Happy birthday, Tennessee.

[16:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Happy birthday, Tennessee. Tell her we say happy birthday.

[17:03] Phil Bracco: I have one more shout out. Eric.

[17:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, Eric and Cole's best friend. Great job handling the social media.

[17:11] Phil Bracco: Yep.

[17:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Backlash.

[17:13] Phil Bracco: Yep. I actually enjoy watching him navigate through tough conversations.

[17:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: He does a great job.

[17:21] Phil Bracco: Conversations. That's what I was talking about before. So before me and Uncle Phil are sitting on the couch, and I said, What happened with you and the word conversations? Like he, I don't he doesn't say it right over there.

[17:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know what happened.

[17:33] Phil Bracco: He slurs his words.

[17:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: All of them, honestly. But conversations is even worse.

[17:39] Phil Bracco: I'm dead.

[17:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Alright. But uh yeah. So I can't Ew, don't do that and make people feel bad for you. I know exactly what you're doing, and you can't see him, but he's smirking so hard right now. The way he just reacted that, he was like, oh my. He's like, you know, I want people to feel bad for me. They're getting up on me. I might have to talk to my therapist again.

[18:00] Phil Bracco: Oh my god.

[18:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: I can't don't let him fool you today. He came in the kitchen and told me he was fixed and doesn't need therapy anymore, and that's because he lies to his therapist.

[18:09] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[18:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's what we found out today.

[18:12] Phil Bracco: That is completely false.

[18:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: This family's insane. Um, alright, let's talk about the HOH competition because I was obsessed with it.

[18:19] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I loved the HOH competition. Oh, let me paint the scene for everybody. We're all 15 of us watching in the living room. We by the end of the HOH competition, we were all standing on top of the couches. Literally, we started off sitting down, we're sad. Nicole just got evicted, and then as the HOH competition is going on, we're literally standing taller and taller and taller, then jumping on the couch, all of us screaming at the TV.

[18:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was so much. It was Enzo, then Ian, then Janelle, right?

[18:49] Phil Bracco: No. It was Enzo, Ian, and then Tyler, and Tyler winds up winning.

[18:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, but then Janelle almost won. It was so exciting.

[18:55] Tommy Bracco: Who well, first, David. He actually is the worst player of all time in the history of Big Brother. Between his social game and the conversation with Davon, between him sorting off backwards, forgetting to press the buzzer, being horrible at the competition. He's bad at everything he does in this game.

[19:17] Phil Bracco: I know. There's not one aspect of this game that he is good in.

[19:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Not one.

[19:21] Phil Bracco: No, he's not doing very well, but you never know. He might, you know.

[19:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: I hope he surprised me, but he's like 0 for 7 with these competitions.

[19:28] Phil Bracco: I think he's just so super nervous at this point that it's just affecting his.

[19:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Nah, I don't think so. I don't agree with that. I he seems like a person that can get it together and is focused, but it's just dumb.

[19:39] Phil Bracco: He really like, he literally, he looks so focused all of the time. He doesn't seem like he's spaced out and not with it. He seems very with it, just stupid.

[19:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: He is very with it. I think it's just like, hasn't something like built up and given you anxiety so much that it just the wrong word. Dumb and stupid is not the right word. I don't know the word right now. I don't know the word. But it's that one. But not those two words.

[20:05] Phil Bracco: I think he's just super.

[20:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's more mentally. I don't think it's mentally. I think it's more. When I say like dumb and stupid, I don't mean actually dumb and stupid. I don't mean that. I just mean that like I think he's a pretty focused with it guy. Again, I so I don't mean dumb and stupid, I just mean he's bad at competition.

[20:21] Phil Bracco: Yeah, he's terrible.

[20:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I think that's it. That's it. He's just bad at the game.

[20:24] Phil Bracco: Yeah, there's a word I was thinking about, and I just can't say it. He just can't find it. Can't find the word. I am 57, so um, but Tyler's H-O-H. I mean, we know my favorite player is Tyler. One of them. Tyler, Janelle, Devon are my favorites. And I picked him to win the whole thing.

[20:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: So I I so did I. My other one is my other pick is gone. Nicole's out.

[20:44] Phil Bracco: So yeah.

[20:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, no, you pick Kevin. Let's not go.

[20:46] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's not do that again. Um anyway, and supposedly Kevin's gonna see Nicole very soon.

[20:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: I thought that was weird. He said that in his uh goodbye message. I'll see you very soon. That's what he said to Nicole.

[21:00] Phil Bracco: I think he just means he's gonna come visit.

[21:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right, and I think it's gonna be hysterical because he's gonna go home within the next two weeks. So it's it's gonna be ironically. That's why he's gonna come watch it with uh anyway. Who do we think Tyler's gonna put up?

[21:12] Phil Bracco: I think it's gonna be Janelle and Case or I don't think there's a way around. It's gonna be a rough week.

[21:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. One of them is gonna win veto, though. If they're both on the block, one of them's winning veto. So unless I mean Tyler's also a fucking genius, so I'm sure he'll come up with a way to backdoor them or one of them, put one of them up, try to backdoor the other. I don't know what he's gonna do.

[21:34] Phil Bracco: I think that Janelle and Case are going up. I don't think there's a way around it. He's got this big alliance that he's got a safe face for. Uh, if he didn't put them both up, a lot of people would be very suspicious of him.

[21:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. So it's gonna start we're gonna start the week off with Janelle and Case are on the block. I just hope Janelle stays. I could see Memphis getting backdoored because he is proven he's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, including his alliance this week. And that is why let's talk about Memphis, because Twitter was very angry at Memphis for a lot of things that he said, the way he acted this week.

[22:05] Phil Bracco: I actually don't think that Memphis did anything wrong at all. I think that he made some really smart moves, but he made them in a really dumb way. Part of being HOH is setting yourself up for future weeks. He rubbed every single person in the house the wrong way. Everyone.

[22:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: But when you're just a dick like that, you literally can't help it.

[22:26] Phil Bracco: I don't think he it's not a thing you could do on it. I won't put either one of them up. But now what happened in result? Janelle and Cesar and his alliance are on to him, and they know that he's working with the other side. So now no one likes him and no one wants to work with him. So I wouldn't be surprised if Memphis gets backdoored this week by uh Tyler. I would actually love to see that too.

[22:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: I will say I did start the week out cursing Memphis around, you know. I called him Frankie Old Man.

[23:00] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[23:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: By the end of the week, by the end of the week.

[23:06] Phil Bracco: I don't speak that way. I I think you're illusioning things.

[23:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, are you is he kidding me? You literally said it really just like that.

[23:14] Phil Bracco: But I will say, by the end of the week, and watching the show here tonight, I started to like him because I think he's funny when he walks in the room and goes, hello, house guests, right?

[23:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: And may all jump.

[23:27] Phil Bracco: That's funny to me.

[23:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: I I I never saw that.

[23:30] Phil Bracco: I don't know what you're talking about.

[23:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: You didn't what are you talking about? You of course you've seen that.

[23:34] Phil Bracco: No, I didn't see that.

[23:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: When he walks in to say it was time for the HOH, no, I mean time for the veto. He opens the door and goes, Hello, house guests, it's time for the veto.

[23:43] Phil Bracco: I don't remember.

[23:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: And they and they all jump.

[23:44] Phil Bracco: No, everyone has to say that when they come in.

[23:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, but he comes in and screams at them. Like, does it funny?

[23:49] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I think he laughs when he's doing it.

[23:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. So you're saying you like him now and he's not a cranky old man anymore?

[23:54] Phil Bracco: No, no, he still was a little bit more. Because he said, come on hello, House Guests.

[23:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, would like that you like him? Is that what you're saying?

[24:04] Phil Bracco: No, I'm just confused.

[24:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: There's a boy. Your rant about the city. I was upset with him for the way he talked to Nicole.

[24:13] Phil Bracco: Right.

[24:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then he came in and said hello, House Guest, and he was like, oh wow, he's a really great guy.

[24:17] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah.

[24:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's what happened.

[24:19] Phil Bracco: Okay, good. I'm glad we cleared that up.

[24:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my god. So funny. Let me backtrack a little bit because you're saying it's only because he said hello, house guest. There's more to it than that. He walked in and said, Who wants to see my HOH?

[24:33] Phil Bracco: Right.

[24:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: So just the way I can't even argument. I can't believe this conversation is still going on.

[24:40] Phil Bracco: So you hated Memphis last way we talked to Nicole. For the way he talked to Nicole, sure. Which I didn't even think was that bad. It was stupid gameplay, but not terrible. And now we like him on what he came in and entered the room and said, and so now you like him.

[24:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I kinda liked him.

[24:55] Phil Bracco: Alright, great. Great.

[24:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[24:58] Phil Bracco: Whatever.

[24:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Alright, so we got Tyler's HOH. Uh what else do we need to cover?

[25:04] Phil Bracco: I think we covered it.

[25:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, Janelle just missed. Yeah. She just missed the la what did it last one fall off the board or something.

[25:11] Phil Bracco: Oh my god. I would have also loved to see. I I was very happy with Ian being HOH, Janelle or KSAR, or Tyler. Now it's the same side. It's just annoying. I'm not excited for Tyler to be HOH. I'll tell you why. He's just gonna go with his alliance. And it's not exciting to watch.

[25:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like it's not exciting to watch, but I just love any time that he succeeds.

[25:31] Phil Bracco: So I agree. I love Tyler. I think he's awesome. I also don't think he needed no, he did. He needed to win because if Ian won HOH, he was probably gonna put up Tyler and Cody, I bet.

[25:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yep.

[25:42] Phil Bracco: It's really either Janelle and Caseer were going up or Tyler and Cody, is what this week was gonna be. So we got uh Janelle and Case are on the brock block, probably. Alright, let's wrap this thing up. Guys, go to RealtalkPodcast.com, submit your questions. We'll discuss them on next uh episode on the next episode. Um, you know, we'll see what happens this week. I don't know. It's gonna be a very interesting week.

[26:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Also, I just want to shout out my dad and Nicole because they started watching Big Brother just so they could listen to the podcast and understand what we're talking about.

[26:13] Phil Bracco: Oh, that's so good. I love them.

[26:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Mm-hmm. Shout out Uncle Paul and Nicole. Love you guys. Happy birthday, Nicole.

[26:20] Phil Bracco: Oh yeah, it's Nicole's birthday.

[26:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Alright, well, we love you guys so much. That's the third Nicole that we've talked about on this podcast. So there's the two Nicole's that are in the game. There's a separate Nicole that we're talking about right now that has nothing to do with Big Brother. Except for the fact that she is one of a billion Nicole's that watch it.

[26:37] Phil Bracco: Yes, yes, yes, exactly.

[26:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, cool. Um, alright, guys. Thanks for listening. We love you all so much. We'll see what happens. Uh next episode drops on Monday. Woo! Very exciting. Love you guys. Bye.

[26:49] Phil Bracco: Bye.

[26:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, so that you're doing the music. Alright, let's do it. Let's do it. Oh. How does it go? I don't know, but I think it's like