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[0:14] Jess McInally: Hello, I'm Jess McInally.

[0:17] Andrew DeWolf: And I'm Andrew DeWolf.

[0:18] Brianna Jones: And I'm Brianna Jones.

[0:20] Jess McInally: And welcome to Ooky Spooky Musicals with you. A spooky show where I try to get Andrew and Bree to like musical theater.

[0:32] Andrew DeWolf: Oh my god, that's crazy.

[0:34] Brianna Jones: You're really doing there.

[0:37] Andrew DeWolf: You're really uh putting a lot of effort in. How are you doing, Andrew?

[0:42] Andrew DeWolf: Well, I'm actually doing uh really well. You got us to watch uh an actually good show this week.

[0:48] Jess McInally: Yeah. I mean, I've had a rough week though. What what's going on with you?

[0:52] Andrew DeWolf: Bro, you're not gonna fucking believe this. I've been planting like non-stop.

[0:59] Jess McInally: Johnny Appleseed over here.

[1:01] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. Start an apple orchard of your own.

[1:04] Jess McInally: Yeah, and some kid just jumped out of a tree. It was really weird.

[1:06] Brianna Jones: No.

[1:10] Jess McInally: Close the book on that. Um, and I found this new breed of fly trap, and it keeps trying to get me to feed it blood.

[1:18] Andrew DeWolf: So of course I had to kill a bunch of people. And I'm starting to do it. Um, because he said I might get my Richard suckle, and I need that in my life, so I did it, obviously.

[1:30] Brianna Jones: Yeah, I mean, yeah. I think I might have girl bossed a little too close to the sun here.

[1:36] Andrew DeWolf: How many people, Jess?

[1:38] Jess McInally: Well, there's this girl I like, and I I he it he kinda killed himself. I just didn't help him. Does that really make me culpable for his murder?

[1:51] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[1:52] Jess McInally: Okay. Um and then there's this other guy, my boss, who's also sort of my dad. Um, he was gonna turn me into the police for that first murder, and I was like, hey, why don't you look in that plant? And then the plant did most of the work. I don't think I did anything there. I didn't stop it, but it kind of feels like you actually directed it, um, all to happen and you knew it would happen, and you did it anyways.

[2:19] Brianna Jones: Uh also, it sounds like your dad was doing the right thing if he was gonna turn you in for a murder.

[2:26] Jess McInally: You know what? I I I don't need this right now. I'm having a rough week, so let me who else did you kill?

[2:31] Andrew DeWolf: Oh god. This one's really rough. Um so you know that girl I liked. She went over there and then the plant just attacked her. Too bad where she was about to die, but not so soon that she couldn't get a last bit of a song out.

[2:49] Brianna Jones: Hmm.

[2:50] Jess McInally: But I mean, the plant promised you that you'd get your your Richard suckled, and it feels like this is actually getting in the way. So I had to kill her. I I fed her to the plant.

[3:03] Andrew DeWolf: Um You're making bad choices here, my friend.

[3:07] Jess McInally: Um, yeah, and then I hear they're gonna like mass produce this plant, so shit, what am I gonna do now? I'm standing here like about to end of the universe, and I never got my Richard suckle.

[3:18] Brianna Jones: I guess you're just gonna have to uh profit off of the plant.

[3:22] Jess McInally: Ah, you're right. Capitalism all the way. You you can't defeat the means of production.

[3:28] Andrew DeWolf: All right. Little Shop of Horrors. On onto the mass exploitation of the working class. This week we're talking about Little Shop of Horrors, and you're gonna I can hear you say it right there. You've already done that.

[3:40] Jess McInally: Well, fuck you, it's Halloween. What other Halloween musicals you got?

[3:44] Andrew DeWolf: Um We're doing the real one this time. We cheated last time. We'll explain that later, but this time we're gonna focus on the Pasadena Playhouse revival um from a couple years ago, starring George Salazar and MJ Rodriguez.

[3:57] Brianna Jones: Alright, let's get into it. Cue the music, Brie.

[4:00] Jess McInally: Little shop, little shop of horror as Little Shop. Little Shopatero called the cop. Little Shop of Horrors's No. Little Shop of Horrors, Watch Shop. Little Shopataro, watch them drop. Little Shop of Horrors No.

[4:08] Jess McInally: Little Shop of Horrors is a musical with music by Alan Mencken and lyrics and book by Howard Ashman. May He Rest in Peace. It is based on The Little Shop of Horrors by Roger Corman, and it premiered um off Off Broadway on May 6, 1982, at the workshop of the Players Art Foundation, WPA Theater, playing there until June 6, 1982. It opened off Broadway at the Orpheum Theater in Manhattan's East Village on July 27, 1982. It ran for five years. When it closed on November 1st, 1987 after 2,209 performances. It was the third longest-running musical and the highest grossing production on in off-Broadway history. And never it very well could have transferred to Broadway, but Howard Ashman thought it felt more right to be an off-Broadway show, and he was right, as we would learn in the 2003 Revival on Broadway.

[5:14] Jess McInally: The plot of Little Shop of Horrors is in this campy musical based on the 1960s cult classic horror film, Nerdy Seymour, a florist clerk, buys and nourishes a Venus flytrap lag plant, which he names for his beloved co-worker Audrey. The plant ultimately grows big enough to devour everything in its path.

[5:33] Jess McInally: Alright. So Andrew, why don't you explain how we cheated last time the first time we did this show?

[5:40] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, I just watched the movie.

[5:42] Jess McInally: Yeah, um, we just lied to you. So I I think in the episode we're like, yeah, in the stage show, and then I'm just doing all the talking, and then talk about the movie, and then suddenly Andrew's piping up a lot more.

[5:55] Andrew DeWolf: So Andrew was very lazy in the first, let's say 15 or so episodes of music.

[6:03] Jess McInally: I liked the movie a lot. The movie, I think, is still the best version of this, but the stage show's pretty good too. I think it goes to show how good an adaptation can be.

[6:18] Jess McInally: So, you've seen the movie first, and now you've watched the Pasadena Playhouse Revival, which happened within I think it was twenty eighteen. Um let me double check this.

[6:43] Andrew DeWolf: Um, so yeah, the plant design is not really a fly trap in the most conventional sense of the word. It's like this pink, like viney-based thing, which I think. It's almost more alien, which is very effective.

[6:57] Jess McInally: I I thought it was very cool, and it almost felt like a uh we know we're not gonna outdo the movie, so let's just do something completely different. Um, which I actually like.

[7:07] Andrew DeWolf: Um, I agree. I also love the casting. So George Salazar, who we know from Be More Chill, an amazing choice for Seymour, and he really nailed that part.

[7:17] Jess McInally: Mm-hmm. MJ Rodriguez, um, I believe she is the first trans actress to play Audrey, and a lot of that innate transness comes into that character and re recontextualizes a lot of the words that come out of it.

[7:32] Andrew DeWolf: So things that were funny and say Ellen Green's mouth now come off very sincere, very sad, heartbreaking in MJ Rodriguez's mouth. Um and the show itself has played a lot more dour and sad.

[7:49] Jess McInally: Yeah. I mean it is a show about a guy like murdering everyone he knows, so I mean maybe it shouldn't be the most upbeat show.

[8:02] Andrew DeWolf: But it's also very funny. I mean, we have a dentist that like is a statomasochist. I still feel like it it has the humor there. Um, but I feel like they're trying to be more sincere with the message. Um, especially near the end.

[8:19] Jess McInally: Yeah, and I think that works. I think that's a good idea. Um a few years later, um, I think roughly at the same time, I think they actually opened around the same time. I COVID has kind of r destroyed my entire sense of timeline. Um off Broadway, there was a revival of Little Shop of Horrors, um, starring um Jonathan Groff, T. Maybe Blanchard, and Christian Borel in the three main leads. Um, and Tom Allen Robbins as uh Mushnick, um, who you might remember from one of our past episodes.

[8:51] Andrew DeWolf: That production I think that is just a clone of the original off-Broadway production with Howard Ashman um's without anything new. Except they casted like a very conventionally attractive person as Seymour. Um, which I think is always a bad idea. That's that's never a good choice.

[9:11] Jess McInally: And Jonathan Groff is first, and then he left the show like right before COVID. Um and Jeremy Jordan, who you might remember as the one that gets his own number in a killer party about how attractive he is.

[9:23] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. I do remember now playing uh Seymour. And I think both of them are terrible casting choices for that. Um and I I think this was all started by the Encores 2013 production when Jake Gillenhall stepped into Seymour. Vocally, he did fine, but he's like the most ripped he's ever been in his life because he had just done Southpaw. He's got a full ass beard going on, and just isn't right.

[9:51] Jess McInally: This is just he's supposed to be like the nerd. He's supposed to look like us, Andrew.

[9:59] Andrew DeWolf: Probably more like you. I think I'm a little too ripped.

[10:04] Jess McInally: You're more in the Mushnick category, sadly enough.

[10:07] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, I think I wouldn't. Actually, we'd have a pretty good uh little shop of horrors cast right here. Mia Seymour, Bria's Audrey, and you as Audrey too.

[10:17] Jess McInally: I thought I'd be Mushnick.

[10:19] Andrew DeWolf: Or Mushnick, whatever you'd prefer. Um I think Mushnik is a funny character. I really like the song Mushnick and Son.

[10:27] Brianna Jones: Yeah Yeah, that's a song that wasn't in the movie, which is what you were used to. How'd you like the new songs that you aren't that you didn't experience before?

[10:35] Andrew DeWolf: Not a huge fan of the gas song that drags on for like five minutes. Um that is very performance based. Um I will talk about that a little later, but continue.

[10:46] Andrew DeWolf: I wasn't a huge fan of that. I loved Mushnick and Son. Mushnik doesn't feel like he does that much in the movie.

[10:54] Jess McInally: Yeah. Um, you know, giving him a little something. And it's funny too. It's like he doesn't really care, but now he's his son because he knows he needs the money.

[11:04] Andrew DeWolf: I I thought that was funny. It also makes him much more conniving, so it's easier to kind of watch him die later.

[11:12] Jess McInally: Yeah. Though he's not conniving, he's not as conniving as the dentist.

[11:18] Andrew DeWolf: It's almost like they ease you through it. They're like, oh yeah, first you're gonna kill the dentist who's like a total dick, and then Mushnick who's like kind of a dick, and then well, now you're just killing people you like.

[11:31] Jess McInally: Um have I ever told you that I was in a production of Little Shop of Horrors?

[11:37] Andrew DeWolf: Um, I think you mentioned it once.

[11:39] Jess McInally: Okay. Maybe twice. Which role do you think I was cast as?

[11:43] Andrew DeWolf: Um Andrew, if you know, don't answer. Bree, how about you answer first? What role do you think I was put in?

[11:47] Brianna Jones: Audrey.

[11:52] Jess McInally: I don't know. I'm taking guesses. Audrey.

[11:55] Andrew DeWolf: I would have been a great audience. I would have been a great Audrey.

[11:58] Jess McInally: All right, Andrew.

[11:59] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, he would have been. Um I feel like you were the dentist.

[12:04] Jess McInally: I was. I wanted Seymour so fucking bad, too. And they gave it to like enough. They gave it to the hot kid, was the thing. They gave it to like the really cute crooner that like played piano and stuff, and he like it you do not buy him as a nerd for like a second.

[12:22] Andrew DeWolf: They switched you guys. I mean, like same. It should have been the opposite.

[12:27] Jess McInally: Um, but I didn't like being a guy that has to hit a woman, and the girl that was playing Audrey was like, just really hit me.

[12:34] Jess McInally: I'm like, no, I'm not gonna do that. It's called acting. We gotta do this three weekends in a row. You're I'm not sure. Well she better she better have six black eyes then.

[12:50] Brianna Jones: Um and I really like um it's just the gas, but it really does depend on the performance. If you play it too broad, it just kind of feels like a goofy song, but if you like literally play it like you're dying, it's pretty creepy. And I've seen some good interpretations that way. I feel like the one that I saw was playing it like you're dying. It all depends. Um like Christian Borrell does it very big and very manic in a very effective way. And then Terran Killam, who did it in the 2013 Encore production, also did it very well. Um it just depends on the kind of mood the show's going for. It just I feel like it drags on a little long.

[13:30] Jess McInally: Oh, they could cut it down. I feel like you can cut the second verse. But the I you miss the gag of where you think he's dead and then he comes back, which is hilarious.

[13:43] Brianna Jones: I guess, but I don't know if it's funny enough. What did you think of MJ Rodriguez as Audrey?

[13:52] Jess McInally: Well, Audrey's fine. Audrey too, I was more impressed by.

[13:56] Brianna Jones: Damn.

[13:58] Jess McInally: No, Audrey Audrey is a boring character, like a like almost like a nothing character. I don't I don't really know. It's some love interest. There's a weird thing with Audrey where she's very it's a very tragic situation she's in. She's dating a guy that like beats her regularly and like insults her, and she just like, I guess that's what I deserve.

[14:23] Brianna Jones: Yeah, I mean it's absolutely terrible. But does she deserve Seymour though?

[14:28] Jess McInally: No. Seymour is like worse. They had to put her in a situation so bad that you want her to end up with the mass murderer because it's better.

[14:40] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[14:42] Jess McInally: I mean, do you want her to end up with him, or do you want him to get her?

[14:49] Brianna Jones: She is not a reward.

[14:51] Jess McInally: She has more personality to be than what you're giving her credit for. Um, even in like the movie version, Ellen Green plays her very spacey, but very sincere. I think it's the sincerity of Audrey that really works, and how especially in somewhere that's green, where she just wants very simple things that she doesn't realize to most people are kind of shitty.

[15:14] Brianna Jones: Plastic on furniture, a 12-inch screen in the bedroom, like TV dinners, like that is her idealized life, which I think does a lot of character building for what little she has already.

[15:39] Jess McInally: But the thing is, Ellen Green plays it very comedic. Like you're laughing at her when she's saying these things.

[15:46] Brianna Jones: MJ Rodriguez plays it so sincere, so honest, like so much that it breaks your heart. Where I think most people laugh at somewhere that's green because it's kind of what the fuck? This is hilarious. Whereas more recently in that production, it's like, uh oh, uh oh, oh no.

[16:04] Jess McInally: It's too relatable now.

[16:05] Brianna Jones: Yeah. And this new production also doesn't take place in the same time setting as most productions or even the movie.

[16:14] Jess McInally: In the movie, it feels like it's like 1950s, 60s, same as the stage show. Here it feels like it's either late 90s or present day, um, based on costumes and set design.

[16:26] Brianna Jones: I was getting a present day vibe.

[16:29] Jess McInally: I didn't see any phones. I did see a disposable camera when Mushnick like pulled it out and all that.

[16:35] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[16:36] Jess McInally: Which is an interesting take. We don't have to necessarily see phones for it to be present day.

[16:41] Brianna Jones: I know that that's common, but you don't have to.

[16:45] Jess McInally: I know. Um, so Audrey too, the puppet, the pink alien creature. I thought it was great.

[16:56] Brianna Jones: I thought that it was really good. Um I don't think it's better than the movie, because the movie, the puppeteering and like the scale that it gives is not gonna touch so good.

[17:08] Jess McInally: But in order to try to compete by doing something totally different, really smart move.

[17:17] Brianna Jones: Whereas the one off Broadway with Christian Borrell and Jeremy Jordan just does the same old shit.

[17:23] Jess McInally: A guy flapping his arms in a little fly trap.

[17:27] Brianna Jones: Yeah, which I mean, that's what they sort of did in the movie, but that's like way better in like every way.

[17:35] Jess McInally: Yeah. I mean, the movie have I've got went into this a little bit in the first episode, but enabled to get the effect of the movie. They had to shoot it at super speed so that the movements could track.

[17:47] Brianna Jones: So Rick Moranis is moving extra slow to get the thing like to make it look like he's matching, and he's lip syncing extra slow so that when it moves, like logistically we cannot move a puppet as fast as a human can move a mouth.

[18:02] Jess McInally: So it takes a lot of doing, and it's logistically impossible.

[18:06] Brianna Jones: It's actually impossible, yeah.

[18:09] Jess McInally: Uh yeah, I mean So this is a good medium.

[18:12] Brianna Jones: Yeah. I think it's really neat how they did it.

[18:17] Jess McInally: I'm trying to remember when it sings, I feel like it's not even really like a mouth necessarily.

[18:24] Brianna Jones: Which I also think works. It kind of makes her everywhere.

[18:28] Jess McInally: Yeah, it's just like a all-encompassing. I mean, it even literally has like arms that come out of the sides of the stage and like shit like that.

[18:37] Brianna Jones: Which I think is great and makes it scarier.

[18:39] Jess McInally: Um makes it much more dangerous. Um so Audrey 2 is usually their gender is pretty nebulous. Most of the time it's played by um men though.

[18:51] Brianna Jones: And this one it was played by um Amber Riley, um, who we might recognize from Glee.

[18:58] Jess McInally: Um, and she did a fantastic job. Like it's the same kind of energy that you'd want from Audrey too, but a wholly different feel to it.

[19:06] Brianna Jones: Where was like where was the performer?

[19:10] Jess McInally: I think she was just off stage. I don't think she ever came on it because that's not usually what you do with Audrey too.

[19:16] Brianna Jones: There's never a physical on stage performer.

[19:19] Jess McInally: Well, I mean, I usually assume that there's like someone in the costume on stage.

[19:23] Brianna Jones: They are never the singer, or rarely the singer.

[19:26] Jess McInally: Oh, okay, okay.

[19:27] Brianna Jones: Because that would fucking exhaust you. Could you imagine hunching over and trying to sing while doing all that?

[19:33] Jess McInally: I mean, Jim Henson did it.

[19:39] Brianna Jones: On a TV show.

[19:41] Jess McInally: Jim Henson did this in a cave with a box of scraps.

[19:46] Brianna Jones: You're not Jim Henson.

[19:49] Jess McInally: No.

[19:50] Brianna Jones: I, you know, I really like that though. Can we talk racism?

[19:57] Jess McInally: Because this show's got some racist shit.

[19:59] Brianna Jones: Then I think that we need to start changing it.

[20:03] Jess McInally: Sure. I'm trying to remember what you might be talking about. Go ahead.

[20:07] Brianna Jones: This we can always just pull out the meme um where you could say, oh, there's a racism problem.

[20:15] Jess McInally: Yeah, there's a racism problem.

[20:17] Brianna Jones: It's not racist, it's diverse. But when Seymour says, I go to the nice Chinese man and they say Chang Da Lu right after she s that he says that he's Chinese, that's a little that that's an easy fix that we can just not have.

[20:31] Jess McInally: Does that mean anything, or is that just them like doing the Chinese?

[20:37] Brianna Jones: That's them doing the Chinese, and it's it sucks. We gotta get rid of that.

[20:42] Jess McInally: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

[20:45] Brianna Jones: I do think the going to the Chinese man to pick something up is just a nod to the like gremlins type shit that you see, you know?

[20:54] Jess McInally: I mean, if this predates Gremlins a bit, and it's also that's just an uncomfortable trope to begin with.

[21:01] Brianna Jones: No, I agree. It is.

[21:04] Jess McInally: But I I don't know. As as this is a parody of the genre, I kind of see why it's there, but yeah, we don't have to be racist with it.

[21:12] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[21:12] Jess McInally: Um I'm not sure I'm the right person, but I know in my most recent listen through, I'm like, ah, I forg I always forget that line until I hear it.

[21:24] Brianna Jones: You literally could just replace it with nothing.

[21:28] Jess McInally: Yeah.

[21:31] Brianna Jones: Like it's the one thing that is aged poorly about this show.

[21:35] Jess McInally: Ex and maybe just like Howard Ashman's lyrics for African American girls, which does tend to lean towards like a a little on a white man's interpretation of blackspeak, which is awkward at times.

[21:51] Jess McInally: Yeah.

[21:54] Brianna Jones: I don't know. I'm not sure if I can go so far as to call this show racist.

[21:58] Jess McInally: I am not calling it racist. I am saying we need to fix these two things.

[22:02] Brianna Jones: Okay, that's fair.

[22:04] Jess McInally: We've talked about that stuff with other shows, so it's nowhere near touching that, but there are things that I'm like, we we should probably fix that.

[22:12] Brianna Jones: I'll to tweak that a little bit for the next revival.

[22:16] Jess McInally: I'm almost more offended by modern Millie, though, just because that's such a much newer show.

[22:21] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[22:22] Jess McInally: This one, it's like it's the 80s, they were doing a thing. I get what they were doing, but maybe we should change it.

[22:27] Brianna Jones: Like, this isn't like cancel little shop. It's more like, hey, we we can revise shit right now.

[22:34] Jess McInally: It wouldn't affect the story at all.

[22:37] Brianna Jones: Like, literally at all.

[22:39] Jess McInally: Literally, not at all.

[22:41] Brianna Jones: I agree. You're you're right.

[22:43] Jess McInally: Yeah. We just this story is just so good.

[22:49] Brianna Jones: This musical is perfect in every way, and the film is even more perfect.

[22:55] Jess McInally: This is um I feel like every time we cover uh um a horror musical, it's either like one of the best we've ever covered, or like just absolute garbage, and those are the only two types of horror musicals.

[23:10] Brianna Jones: Um and then you got Bat Boy, which is right in the middle.

[23:13] Jess McInally: I don't know. I think Bat Boy is more leaning towards one of the better ones we've covered.

[23:19] Brianna Jones: I think so too, but like where does Heathers fall on that?

[23:24] Jess McInally: Close to better ones we've covered.

[23:26] Brianna Jones: Okay.

[23:26] Jess McInally: Like I can't. But then you have then you have like uh the Frank Wildhorn like Dracula and Jekyll and Hyde, which is like the worst shit ever.

[23:37] Brianna Jones: And then Dear Nansen, which is like a horror film in its own way.

[23:41] Jess McInally: Well, I'm not I mean actual like horror genre stuff.

[23:46] Brianna Jones: Um I'm just gonna go. Like this this and this and Sweeney Todd are like damn near perfect.

[23:52] Jess McInally: Yeah, and they both have very good movie adaptations which are big jumps in adaptation.

[24:00] Brianna Jones: Like I respect Frank Oz a lot for just hopping in.

[24:04] Jess McInally: He's like, I don't want to change much, but I do have to change quite a bit.

[24:07] Brianna Jones: And he's like, We need a big song at the end, write us a new song.

[24:11] Jess McInally: And every time I watch the stage musical, I miss Mean Green Mother at the end.

[24:16] Brianna Jones: I really do.

[24:17] Jess McInally: And you feel its absence.

[24:20] Brianna Jones: I don't understand why they don't just add it in.

[24:22] Jess McInally: Because it would be very, very difficult to do with the way that they usually do the puppet.

[24:28] Brianna Jones: Now, the Pasadena Playhouse one, they could have easily done it.

[24:32] Jess McInally: Just do it.

[24:34] Brianna Jones: I think it just might be licensing.

[24:36] Jess McInally: Like it would be a different show at that point.

[24:39] Brianna Jones: Yeah, you might you might actually be right.

[24:41] Jess McInally: It might literally be getting the licensing for the movie version.

[24:45] Brianna Jones: Versus the stage show.

[24:47] Jess McInally: Because I would love I feel like you need it.

[24:50] Brianna Jones: And because in the in the state show as it is, um Seymour's like, I can fight you from the inside, and then he just dives into the fucking Venus fly trap and then he dies.

[25:00] Jess McInally: In the Pasadena one, he does that, and then he's fighting tentacles and they overtake him, and that's pretty great.

[25:06] Andrew DeWolf: That is a pretty good, more engaging way to kill off Seymour.

[25:10] Jess McInally: Um, but neither of them top mean greed mother where he's slowly brought into the mouth and killed in the director's cut.

[25:19] Brianna Jones: I think that's the only reason why a lot of people thought the stage show was so much better is they didn't have the wonderful director's cut until like 2012.

[25:28] Jess McInally: And now we do, and that film is perfect. Do not touch that again.

[25:31] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[25:33] Jess McInally: Like the stage show, even without that, is still really great. But yeah, I feel like the movie is like the true version of this show in some ways, which is almost why we didn't bother to have me watch anything other than the movie, but which is why we're doing it today, because I think the Pasadena Playhouse is the only one that's ever been like, alright, we need to find a new angle at this.

[25:58] Brianna Jones: Um, I will say the one good thing James Corden ever did in his entire life was invite MJ Rodriguez and George Salazar to sing suddenly Seymour on his show when he didn't have to.

[26:11] Jess McInally: He could have had the more famous people from the off-Broadway cast, but he really wanted that to be seen and have a little bit of that documented forever.

[26:18] Brianna Jones: Which I do like. Thank you, James Corden.

[26:19] Jess McInally: You did one good thing, James Corden.

[26:22] Brianna Jones: Thank you, James Corden.

[26:24] Jess McInally: In a now go away.

[26:25] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[26:25] Jess McInally: In an industry that's so like that doesn't have much trans representation, going out of your way to show it on national TV, that was wonderful.

[26:34] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[26:35] Brianna Jones: W who says that we're just haters?

[26:38] Jess McInally: Who the fuck said that?

[26:40] Andrew DeWolf: No hater aid here.

[26:41] Jess McInally: You know who definitely has hater aid, though?

[26:45] Brianna Jones: Um.

[26:47] Andrew DeWolf: Oh.

[26:47] Brianna Jones: I know.

[26:49] Andrew DeWolf: The weirdos over on letterboxed.

[26:52] Brianna Jones: You had me for a second. I was like, wait, our patrons aren't haters.

[26:57] Andrew DeWolf: It's Tom for our favorite segment.

[27:00] Jess McInally: It's BREVEO.

[27:03] Brianna Jones: It's Tomful Preview.

[27:08] Andrew DeWolf: It's Tom Full Previews.

[27:11] Jess McInally: Um, but this week we're doing our five stars or one stars quiz between Bree and Andrew, where I go to the letterbox page of the Little Shop of Horrors movie, and I find reviews on Letterboxd that are either five stars or one stars.

[27:30] Brianna Jones: Well, we're gonna find out today. Bree, do you want to start since Andrew started last time?

[27:34] Brianna Jones: I would love to start.

[27:36] Jess McInally: Alright, you're okay.

[27:40] Brianna Jones: Oh, that doesn't sound good.

[27:41] Jess McInally: This is the whole review.

[27:43] Brianna Jones: Are you ready?

[27:43] Jess McInally: Oh no.

[27:44] Brianna Jones: Yes.

[27:46] Brianna Jones: It is the letter D.

[27:49] Brianna Jones: That is it.

[27:51] Jess McInally: Okay.

[27:56] Brianna Jones: I'm gonna give it five stars.

[27:59] Jess McInally: That was a one star.

[28:02] Brianna Jones: What does it mean?

[28:03] Jess McInally: D for failing.

[28:04] Brianna Jones: D.

[28:05] Jess McInally: Yeah, that makes sense.

[28:06] Brianna Jones: That makes sense. I just was very baffled by the letter D.

[28:09] Jess McInally: Alright, Andrew, your turn.

[28:11] Andrew DeWolf: Okay.

[28:11] Andrew DeWolf: The full review of the Little Shop of Horrors movie is.

[28:15] Andrew DeWolf: What if you smoked it?

[28:17] Brianna Jones: I'm assuming referring to Audrey 2.

[28:22] Andrew DeWolf: I don't think you could smoke it. I think it would smoke you.

[28:25] Brianna Jones: Oh.

[28:27] Andrew DeWolf: But if you could smoke it, it would probably be five stars.

[28:33] Brianna Jones: That is five stars.

[28:36] Jess McInally: Ding ding ding.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Alright, Bree, your turn.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Okay.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: This one says, I don't like musicals.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Dot dot dot dot dot dot dot, except for Mamma Mia.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Oh no.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Jess, did you write this?

[33:53] Jess McInally: Yeah, did you?

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Um.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: I don't like musicals except for Mamma Mia.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Which means that would exclude Little Shop of Horrors.

[33:53] Jess McInally: But I feel like this is a trick question.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Oh no, she's gonna trick herself into the wrong answer.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: No, I'm just gonna give it a one star.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Alright, that's correct.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Ding ding ding ding ding.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Alright, Andrew, your turn.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Okay.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, this is all in caps.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Spook Tober and Dentist Slander.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Sounds like a five stars to me, but what do I know?

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Five stars.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: That is correct.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Okay.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Alright, Bree.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Um, this one's a little more vulgar than we're used to.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Um, I will say this reads like it has an accent, so I might read it with the accent.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Are we ready?

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: No Lord.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Alright, the full review on Letterboxd is I'd let the plant eat me ass, but I fart first.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Farts.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Pooed out chabumhole.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Five stars.

[33:53] Jess McInally: That's a one star.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: I'd let the plant eat me ass, but I'd fart first.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Farts.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Farts.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Poot out shabumhole.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: I think the accent really helped.

[33:53] Jess McInally: This is a wrong choice.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: From outer space, right there.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: That is a mean green mother ass eater from outer space.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Somebody put me to the best ass eater.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Alright.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: I don't think that was the right melody.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Eat it.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Good reference.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Good reference, Andrew.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Alright, your turn.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: The full review.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: But it was so cute and harmless.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Dot dot.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Was it?

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Um, okay.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Uh, this sounds like someone who didn't understand the movie, so one star.

[33:53] Jess McInally: That is correct.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: I'm good.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: I'm getting my ass kicked.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Better than getting your ass eat by the plant.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, so I just feel like I'm good at these.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: I don't know.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, Bree.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: You ready?

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Yes.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Something LGBT ha just happened to Bill Murray, I think.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Five stars.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: One star.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: God damn it.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Isn't that good though?

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: It depends who's writing it.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, exactly.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Um, alright, Andrew, are you ready?

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Oh yes.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Alright.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: You know, if I was Seymour, I would just tell Audrey 2 to shut the fuck up.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: No stupid plan is gonna boss me around.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: I feel like he tries that.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Right?

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, he needs to grow a backbone in general as a human being.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Well, he was gonna go buy it roast beef.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Go down to Schmendrix and buy you some roast beef.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Um, please lose.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Five stars?

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: That is correct.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: I just literally guessed on that one.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: It's a 50-50.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Your turn.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Okay.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Interesting, period.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Very campy and very gay.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Five stars.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: That's a one star.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Yeah, well.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Is it gay?

[33:53] Brianna Jones: I never got a gay vibe from the show.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Me neither.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: I mean, it's fine if you do.

[33:53] Jess McInally: I'm not, I mean, I'm just, I didn't think that's just our critical opinion.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Um, this is much better than reading Ben Brantley, I'm not gonna lie.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Yeah, I don't like losing, but it's fine.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: But you're gonna win and you're gonna kick Andrew's ass soon.

[33:53] Jess McInally: But I will say one right.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: I got, you've got everyone right.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Yeah.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: I will say, Andrew is the overall winner.

[33:53] Jess McInally: No one has ever beaten him.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Um, the other guests, so don't feel too bad.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: I literally just guess based on gut feeling.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Okay, so I should do the opposite of my gut feeling.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Alright, let's see.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Alright.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Um, is it Bree's turn?

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: No, it's Andrew's.

[33:53] Jess McInally: Andrew.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, are you ready?

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Let's see.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Would it be funny if you made a porn parody of this movie and Audrey 2 went, Breed me Cmore?

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Uh, and then you stuck your ass in and you farted me but okay.

[33:53] Andrew DeWolf: Um, five stars if they want to trick off to it.

[33:53] Brianna Jones: Alright, Bree, your turn.

[33:55] Brianna Jones: Tell me.

[33:57] Brianna Jones: What in the actual dot dot dot question mark period?

[34:02] Brianna Jones: One star?

[34:03] Andrew DeWolf: That is correct.

[34:05] Brianna Jones: Fucking God.

[34:06] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, Andrew.

[34:07] Andrew DeWolf: Mm-hmm.

[34:08] Andrew DeWolf: Seymour Crowborn is an incel.

[34:13] Brianna Jones: Incels are bad.

[34:15] Andrew DeWolf: And cells are bad.

[34:17] Brianna Jones: Which makes me think one star.

[34:19] Andrew DeWolf: Um, I don't know if I agree that Seymour is an incel, though it's an interesting take.

[34:24] Brianna Jones: Um, yeah, we'll go with one star.

[34:28] Andrew DeWolf: That was a five-star.

[34:29] Brianna Jones: Alright, Bree.

[34:32] Brianna Jones: I think this one you might get.

[34:33] Brianna Jones: Um, the review says didn't age well.

[34:38] Brianna Jones: In the age of CGI, this film could have been saved.

[34:42] Brianna Jones: I was so distracted by the lazy work of Frank Oz.

[34:46] Jess McInally: I'm gonna stop you right there.

[34:48] Brianna Jones: I'm a little started.

[34:52] Brianna Jones: Jim Belushi is the only credible source of entertainment in this flick, and he just comes a little too late.

[35:02] Jess McInally: I am standing by my one star, so good.

[35:04] Jess McInally: Can we just talk about everything wrong with you?

[35:08] Brianna Jones: CG.

[35:09] Jess McInally: There's no CG.

[35:10] Brianna Jones: Um, lazy work by Frank Oz.

[35:13] Jess McInally: Like, even there's so much work on screen, no matter what, even if you don't like this film.

[35:18] Brianna Jones: I, I, how could you even?

[35:20] Jess McInally: That's just, that's insulting.

[35:21] Brianna Jones: And Jim Belushi is the only good part showing that they only watched the theatrical version, and he's terrible.

[35:29] Andrew DeWolf: The wrong Belushi died.

[35:31] Jess McInally: Alright, let's go.

[35:33] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, you ready?

[35:36] Jess McInally: Yes.

[35:36] Andrew DeWolf: I'm a dentist, and this movie needs a root canal.

[35:42] Brianna Jones: Um, someone's offended?

[35:45] Andrew DeWolf: That sounds like a one-star to me.

[35:47] Brianna Jones: That is correct.

[35:47] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, Bree.

[35:50] Brianna Jones: Yes.

[35:51] Brianna Jones: Not the horror I was expecting.

[35:55] Andrew DeWolf: Five stars.

[35:56] Brianna Jones: That is correct.

[35:59] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, last one, Andrew.

[36:01] Andrew DeWolf: Okay.

[36:02] Andrew DeWolf: Steve Martin, you look so yummy.

[36:05] Andrew DeWolf: I'm gonna eat you, heart.

[36:11] Brianna Jones: Five stars.

[36:14] Andrew DeWolf: That is correct.

[36:15] Jess McInally: Yeah!

[36:16] Andrew DeWolf: Inateur, once again, you win previews.

[36:19] Jess McInally: I've just, I've just done too much.

[36:24] Brianna Jones: Great job, everybody.

[36:26] Jess McInally: Bree, you're gonna nail it next week.

[36:28] Brianna Jones: I, I, I got, I just know it you're gonna nail it next week, meaning.

[36:31] Jess McInally: I'm gonna do really, really good.

[36:33] Jess McInally: Um, you know who else does really good?

[36:37] Brianna Jones: Our patrons.

[36:38] Jess McInally: That's right. How about we go into a Mitch show and talk about them?

[36:56] Brianna Jones: Hey guys, today's show is brought to you by the extremely kind donations by our donors over at Patreon.

[37:02] Jess McInally: Hey, Audrey Two Drew, why don't you tell us a little bit about Patreon?

[37:09] Andrew DeWolf: Patreon is where you could go if you want to donate money to us because of all the great content that we supply with to you for freeze.

[37:18] Jess McInally: But it's not for free, they pay for it.

[37:20] Andrew DeWolf: They don't pay for this content, Jess.

[37:22] Jess McInally: There's more content on Patreon.

[37:25] Andrew DeWolf: And you know what? We only talk to our patrons, you know?

[37:29] Jess McInally: Like, that's just what we're known for.

[37:31] Andrew DeWolf: We don't have any Twitter accounts.

[37:32] Jess McInally: Um, the only way to interact with us or engage with us is on Patreon, apparently.

[37:36] Andrew DeWolf: Bitch, I don't talk to anybody.

[37:38] Jess McInally: You don't.

[37:40] Brianna Jones: Bree the only people anyone talks to is me.

[37:43] Andrew DeWolf: Even if they think it's you, it's me.

[37:46] Jess McInally: If I post on my Twitter, you're blessed.

[37:50] Andrew DeWolf: That is my blessing to you.

[37:52] Brianna Jones: That is honestly true.

[37:54] Jess McInally: If Andrew acknowledges you on Twitter, you are blessed.

[37:57] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[37:59] Jess McInally: You know what, Andrew, why don't you bless all these names for us?

[38:02] Andrew DeWolf: Oh lord.

[38:05] Jess McInally: Here we go.

[38:06] Andrew DeWolf: You're doing the next one though.

[38:08] Jess McInally: Of course. Our current patrons are Melissa Goldman, Terry Needleman, John Donna, Layton Accles, Danielle Rennox, Jess the Stampede, Iwan Cassidy, Tess Gear, Fire of September, Monica Thoreau, Mina Mani, Brent Black, Haley Murray, Lathaniel Stacey Coomb, Joseph Evans Green, Carrie Ahern, Mary Lou Choquette, John Van Ales, Russ Walker, Musical Hell, Emily Gracie, Tablam, Kyle Summers, Janae C, Scoot in the Technicolor Dreamcoat, Felice A.

[38:35] Andrew DeWolf: Liz Lim, Alison Stoller, nothing is certain except Beth and Taxes, John Van Alz, Thesbian, Red Cullen, wait in the wings, Raphael Martinez Silas, Robert Benjamin, Rochelle T, Jessica T, Cass, Mitchell Young, Chai Teacup, Katie McDonough, Timothy Keys, Jeffrey Machado, Chris Marcot, uh Tim Timimu Robinson, uh Kishi, Marie, uh, Anastasio, Leela, uh, RJ Noriga, Sebastian Kin uh Sebastian Canino.

[39:06] Jess McInally: I gotta move these closer.

[39:09] Andrew DeWolf: Avan Regan, Lizzie Keynes, Charlie B, Patrick Deering, Julia McLannan, Courtney Schreiner, Joe, Avery Brinson, Mary Lynn Brown, Mel Cormac, Thomas W.

[39:24] Brianna Jones: Lafemme Fictionnelle, and Bjorn uh Hermans.

[39:28] Jess McInally: We love you all so much, and you guys are getting a lot of cool shit over at Patreon.

[39:32] Andrew DeWolf: You can see our faces, you can see Andrew struggle through those names.

[39:36] Jess McInally: I try.

[39:37] Andrew DeWolf: Fellas, ladies and gentlemen, and everyone in betweens, you know I'm trying.

[39:43] Jess McInally: Let's cut that little line out there.

[39:48] Andrew DeWolf: Whatever you want.

[39:50] Jess McInally: Yeah.

[39:50] Andrew DeWolf: Um, thank you guys for donating to us on Patreon.

[39:54] Jess McInally: Um, you have your weekly Patreon with cheese stuff. You got a lot of cool shit. Me and Andrew have some fun things playing in the future. He doesn't know this, but I do. Um, there's gonna be some cool stuff over at Patreon, so stay subscribed. We're gonna have some cool things. Also, we're gonna have our monthly like Patreon hangouts, and this month, we're having it on Friday, October 29th, and there's gonna be a Halloween spectacular with a costume contest.

[40:21] Andrew DeWolf: And if you win, you get a $25 gift card. So join our Patreon, do the costume contest, it'll be fun. Me, Andrew, and Bree are gonna be judges.

[40:30] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[40:31] Jess McInally: I can't wait. It's gonna be a blast. I actually do want to see some nice costumes. Are you guys dressing up?

[40:37] Andrew DeWolf: Um, we can, but if you dress up, you're we're not eligible for the contest.

[40:42] Jess McInally: If you're gonna dress up, I mean I'll give myself a 10 no matter what, so Bree.

[40:46] Brianna Jones: If you dress up, I'll dress up.

[40:48] Andrew DeWolf: Okay.

[40:49] Brianna Jones: As long as I have my task and by that.

[40:51] Jess McInally: If you buy if you both dress up, I'll have to dress up.

[40:53] Andrew DeWolf: You don't have to do a goddamn thing, Andrew.

[40:57] Jess McInally: You you you you dressed up. You paint a pretty picture just all by yourself, baby.

[41:02] Andrew DeWolf: Alright. Let's see. On that note, let's get back to the show.

[41:05] Jess McInally: Songs.

[41:06] Andrew DeWolf: Good lord.

[41:25] Jess McInally: What a pretty thing to be happening. Look out, look out, look out, look out!

[41:29] Andrew DeWolf: Shangalang Shanghai starting drag in the air.

[41:36] Jess McInally: Shalala.

[41:37] Andrew DeWolf: Stop it, but you are gonna move a thing.

[41:41] Jess McInally: You better tell you you better. Tell your mama, something's gonna get done.

[41:48] Andrew DeWolf: She better. Everybody better be well.

[41:56] Jess McInally: So the opening number, Little Shop of Horrors, is probably one of the greatest, like opening numbers that does nothing. Like, it is the prologue in the most effective way, meaning we get barely any information. It's just fun and just sets the tone. It's like it's like a title song. Like, 'cause the the real opener in like setting song is Skid Row.

[42:24] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, like that's a proper opening number, so to say, but this is just like a catchy, like earworm to be like, let's get you ready. It's gotta be a little shot. It's literally it's it's like they have a credit sequence in a movie where they have a song playing over it.

[42:38] Jess McInally: Right.

[42:39] Andrew DeWolf: And that's this is that song.

[42:41] Jess McInally: So you're just talking about the movie right now.

[42:45] Andrew DeWolf: No, I mean, even in even in the stage show, that's still what this song is.

[42:49] Jess McInally: Yes. Now, what do you think of the three girls?

[42:52] Andrew DeWolf: Um, the the Greek chorus, if you would. Um, I've I mean, they don't really have characters, but I think that they perform all the songs that they're in pretty well.

[43:07] Jess McInally: You see, I'm gonna fight you on this a little bit.

[43:10] Andrew DeWolf: You think it was bad?

[43:11] Jess McInally: No. No, no, no, no. I think they have characters in the stage show, and in the movie they're kind of removed to be much more nebulous figures. Where they're actual like people that interact with like Seymour and Audrey and all that in the stage show. They are characters that have names that talk to them.

[43:31] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, sort of.

[43:34] Jess McInally: I feel like they show up even when they shouldn't be there, though.

[43:37] Andrew DeWolf: What do you mean?

[43:38] Jess McInally: I mean, they also do that, but they also have conversations with Seymour and tell him about things going on.

[43:45] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[43:46] Jess McInally: I guess what I mean is that they're sort of characters, but maybe they're kind of also narrator, like Greek chorus, like they're not really characters. I don't really know. But in the stage show, um, I do not believe they have names in the movie. They are called uh Crystal, Ronette, and Chiffon, which are all um Motown groups. Um that's their little tribute to that. And I think that s also sums up their sound. They're very big tribute to Motown.

[44:16] Andrew DeWolf: Um Howard Ashman was a huge fan of that type of style, as you can see from a lot of his other work too.

[44:22] Jess McInally: In the entire rest of this show.

[44:24] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, yes, but it's not just in this show, is m it's he's very eclectic man, Howard Ashman. I mean, as far as like how they're used, it's a good way to fill out a small cast and have other characters that are like extras, basically.

[44:40] Jess McInally: I agree.

[44:41] Andrew DeWolf: Are still used elsewhere, but I mean, kind of, but there's not many extras, if you think about it, uh, in the stage show.

[44:50] Jess McInally: No, there's really there's barely anybody. There's what, like the guy that shows up near the end in the reporter that interviews him.

[44:59] Andrew DeWolf: Andrew, Andrew, those are all the same person. That's all the dentist.

[45:03] Jess McInally: That's all the dentist. They're all the same.

[45:05] Andrew DeWolf: There's none of no they have like what, six six actors, like total?

[45:10] Jess McInally: Yeah, I mean you got Mushnick, you got Audrey, you got um do we even count Audrey too?

[45:16] Andrew DeWolf: Um As far as people that show up on stage.

[45:18] Jess McInally: Okay. You got Mushnick, Audrey, Seymour, um, the three girls, um, and the dentist.

[45:24] Andrew DeWolf: That's seven people. Total.

[45:26] Jess McInally: Yeah. That's a great cast. And I will say, I was really disappointed playing the dentist, um, because I didn't like that role, but I did not realize that meant I got to play every single like other cast member, so that was a blast. Like running off stage, getting into another costume, and then hopping back on to play another, like, wow, what an interesting plant, and then hopping into a dress and being like, ah. It was a lot of fun to play that role.

[45:52] Andrew DeWolf: Um the dentist is probably the least fun part of doing that.

[45:57] Jess McInally: I mean, I feel like you could enjoy the dentist. The dentist song is one of the most fun songs in the show if you do it right.

[46:05] Andrew DeWolf: But also it's very one note.

[46:09] Jess McInally: Well, yeah. It's it's literally one joke.

[46:12] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. The character is one joke. After the first laugh of you pulling off the the coat and then revealing the dentist uniform, it's done. The the song you you you hit your one note.

[46:23] Jess McInally: Well, I mean, it's the same joke over and over, it's just that he's extremely sadistic.

[46:28] Andrew DeWolf: Um I feel like you can play on that as an actor.

[46:33] Jess McInally: As an actor, you're not given much you're on stage and you're just singing it. You're not given props, you're not given anything. You're given the three girls to react to, which isn't much. Whereas in the film, you've got so well in the movie.

[46:44] Andrew DeWolf: In the film, Steve Martin got the editing, he's got random props everywhere, and extra being tortured at every second.

[46:51] Jess McInally: Here, you got the three girls, and it's like played em in the script much more sexual. Like the say ah is like much and then now spit like is like a reference to like spitting cum out of your mouth. Like I feel I almost feel like they removed the sexuality from that in the uh movie.

[47:08] Andrew DeWolf: Which is the it was supposed to be there the entire time, but I I prefer it not being there because I don't I that's a me thing.

[47:18] Jess McInally: It doesn't make that much sense because that's not what he He's not getting off of it like sexually.

[47:25] Andrew DeWolf: He just likes being a sadist.

[47:27] Jess McInally: Yeah, and that's why they have the Bill Murray scene, which is uh in the movie, which is a tribute to Jack Nicholson who played that role in the original Roger Corman film.

[47:36] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, the uh person who likes it.

[47:39] Jess McInally: Yeah. And that's a real it's I don't think Bill Murray's very good in the movie, but I think the Jack Nicholson scene is hilarious. It's like the only scene I've ever seen from the uh original movie.

[47:48] Andrew DeWolf: It's the only scene worth seeing the original movie.

[47:51] Jess McInally: Probably. Um Skid Row, the proper opening number. This is fantastic. Like, it does so much work. It's an I want song for all the lead characters. I love it.

[48:04] Andrew DeWolf: This song is flawless. Then you go downtown where the folks are broke, you go downtown. Where your life's a joke, you go downtown when you buy your token in a guy. Home to Skid Room. Home to Skid Ro.

[48:26] Jess McInally: Yes, you go downtown where the caps don't stop. Downtown. Where the food is slump. Downtown, where the hop heads pop in the snow. Down home skin room. Uptown you cater to a million jerks. Uptown your messengers and mail room clerks. Eating all your lunches at the hot dog parts. The bosses take your money and they break your hearts.

[48:45] Andrew DeWolf: Uptown you cater to a million fours. Your morning's tribulation afternoons. And five o'clock is even worse.

[49:11] Jess McInally: I just think what's amazing about this show is that every single song is like just great. Even the ones that I don't like as much are very good in what they're doing. This the like these two opening songs are like just phenomenal, though.

[49:31] Andrew DeWolf: Um just I and I don't know. I feel like it gets better. I don't know. I I love this song. It's weird that we don't have like I mean we do though. Like it does a lot of like background story work and all that. It paints the world very well. However, I think it is never topped as well as the movie because of the glory glory of editing and how it can decide what to show you and what not to show you.

[50:03] Jess McInally: Um Frank Oz is a brilliant director that doesn't get enough respect as a director as he does as being like Yoda or a Puppeteer or Fozzie Bear and all that.

[50:13] Jess McInally: But if you've watched any of his other directorial films outside of Little Shop of Horrors, he is very good and very talented. Even his Muppet movies are better than the ones directed by Jim Henson, because he's a good director. He's one of the best musical theater filmmakers ever on the planet. Like the way he moves a camera, especially during this scene, is so incredible. In a way where people are like, oh yeah, the puppet. No, no, no. The filmmaking technique.

[50:44] Andrew DeWolf: I feel like you're just we're just gonna keep doing this.

[50:46] Brianna Jones: Yep.

[50:47] Andrew DeWolf: The movie is just the definitive version.

[50:49] Brianna Jones: It is.

[50:50] Andrew DeWolf: The director's cut. Like, maybe seven years ago the stage show would have been a better definitive version. Now that we have that wonderful director's cut, not much. Not much can compare to it. I think that this new version of it though, is worth seeing. I wish it was still playing.

[51:09] Jess McInally: I'm sure it will come back.

[51:11] Andrew DeWolf: Question mark. I think they're gonna stick with like the original Howard Ashman version forever.

[51:17] Brianna Jones: Ugh.

[51:17] Andrew DeWolf: Which is lame as fuck. It's actually a shame because I feel like it's it this lends itself better to um the like stage environment.

[51:29] Jess McInally: But I agree. I also think that they could have added uh mean green mother with the new puppet. Um let's talk about Mushnick and son, since we did not cover that in the original episode we did, which is also a very underrated, very difficult to perform song.

[51:39] ♪ Musical number: "Mushnick and Son" ♪

[52:38] Brianna Jones: Is it difficult to perform?

[52:39] Jess McInally: I didn't even think of it. I just thought it was a it was a good laugh.

[52:44] Andrew DeWolf: It is, but it's also a lot of character motivation there and a lot of character interaction. You could play it very sad, you can play it very funny, you can play it broad, you can play it evil, and it's finding the right one for your production.

[52:58] Brianna Jones: Yeah. Um I think the one that I saw it gave a lot of um I don't I don't think you'd say evil or anything like that, but it's it's definitely the the motivation is um Mushnik is basically tricking him. You know.

[53:17] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. Um it's almost it's interesting though, because you sort of see him as like this greedy sort of businessman type who doesn't really care about anyone else. But if you are contrasting it, like Seymour is a going to murder a bunch of people for his uh business for his business interests, so I mean, Seymour is basically Evan Hansen doing horrible, horrible things to get a girl. Let's let's be clear here. Breeze got something to say, she brought the mic down.

[53:50] Brianna Jones: We've closed the book, boys. I mean, here at least that comparison's apt, and it shows that you can follow a character that does morally reprehensible things and still enjoy the piece overall.

[54:04] Jess McInally: Well, yeah.

[54:06] Brianna Jones: I mean, that's because the framing is there.

[54:08] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[54:09] Brianna Jones: He also has a true, like You fucking know.

[54:17] Jess McInally: Come up in he he realizes what he did was so wrong that he basically tries everything he could possibly do to fix it and he can't.

[54:26] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[54:27] Jess McInally: Um and he gets murderized, and it's great.

[54:30] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. It's just it's it's just framed better. I mean, uh we don't have to get we're done with that. That's over. We've already done the perfect episode on it, and everyone agrees with us now. So we've changed the world with that episode that it's not posted yet as of the recording of this.

[54:46] Brianna Jones: No, I mean, it's been posted for two weeks. Everyone agrees with us.

[54:51] Andrew DeWolf: Um do we want to talk about the uncomfortable stereotyping of Mushnick.

[55:00] Jess McInally: Do we have to?

[55:03] Andrew DeWolf: He is a Jewish person. This song is very fiddler leaning, um, with a lot of plasmer stylings, and as you said, he is a greedy businessman, only worried about money and will only make someone his child if it suits him business wise. There's some uncomfortable stereotyping there, wouldn't you say?

[55:23] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[55:25] Jess McInally: But I feel like Mushnik at his core is kind of a likable character in a way. He's like a Mr. Krabs. You know? Like, I he's not like evil, and his business is actually failing. Um, you know, so you c you understand his motivations. It's not like he's just like already rich and just money grubbing, you know. Like he realizes that without Seymour he is going to fail business wise, and he just knows that his it's in his best interest to keep Seymour around. I don't know. Um I am not Jewish, I am very much a Gentile, but I would be interested in a Jewish reading of Little Shop of Horrors if someone wanted to do one.

[56:09] Andrew DeWolf: Sure. I'm not saying there's nothing there. I'm just saying. I don't think it's that bad.

[56:19] Brianna Jones: Alright. You heard him. You heard him guys.

[56:22] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know. I'm not an expert in these things. I suppose we'll be get. I I personally wasn't reading that much into it, and it does it certainly doesn't feel like a Nazi wrote it.

[56:34] Jess McInally: No. Howard Ashman is definitely not a Nazi. You know, I don't think they're trying to say something like, oh, you know how those Jewish people are. Like, I don't think that's what they're trying to do. I think they just rely on stereotypes for shorthand in storytelling, which is lazy. Lazy, but not necessarily racist.

[56:59] Brianna Jones: I don't know. I'm not one to say what's racist. Um, let's talk about feed me slash get it. Actually, no, uh, we talked about that in the first episode. It's good song. Let's talk about now, it's just the gas.

[57:07] ♪ Musical number: "Now (It's Just the Gas)" ♪

[58:10] Jess McInally: I love this song. I love this song. I love performing it. It's so much fun.

[58:18] Andrew DeWolf: Sure. Performing it maybe is fun. I had to watch it though, and it's like it's long. It's too long. Just die already.

[58:28] Brianna Jones: I wish it was in the movie. It's like the only song cut from the stage show that I wish was in the movie. Just because I want Steve, I think Steve Martin would have nailed this song for one. I mean, he nails dentists so well. I I gotta say, and I don't usually talk about performances or anything.

[58:45] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[58:46] Brianna Jones: Dentist in the in the version that you gave me. It just didn't cut it for me.

[58:53] Jess McInally: Well, I mean, I don't think anyone can cut it because I know.

[58:58] Brianna Jones: I think I'm spoiled. Like spoiled rotten. I this is a rare thing. And Bree, I don't think you've ever heard us talk like this about a film version of a musical where the film adaptation is so good it almost ruins the original show because it'll never live up.

[59:13] Brianna Jones: Yeah, I've never heard you guys.

[59:15] Andrew DeWolf: Extremely rare because you know, usually when you get a film adaptation of a musical, it's complete shit. Uh and they fuck up everything. Like, including just basic filmmaking techniques somehow. They forget how to make a movie, but just because it's a musical. They're like, oh, it's a musical? Oh, well, I don't know how to make a movie, so they take the one guy that doesn't know how to make a movie, and yet Frank Oz, just a guy that does puppets at this point in his career, maybe who did like one film beforehand, it was a Muppet movie, is given this and knocks it out of the park more than any other filmmaker ever has with a movie adaptation of a musical.

[59:53] Jess McInally: You know why that is though? Because the Muppet movies are musical movies that are good. They're so stylized, they rely rely on editing, they rely on puppeteering and new advanced special effects.

[1:00:06] Brianna Jones: But they're musicals.

[1:00:08] Jess McInally: They are. I mean, they're not like true musicals that you could put on stage, but like they do it all. Musical numbers and like he knew what he was doing.

[1:00:21] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. He fucking aced it. Um yeah, Dentist just didn't do it for me in the stage show. And I I don't think I I don't want to say like the actor was bad, because I don't think that's what it is. I think it was just Jesus Christ, you can't top that the movie version of that.

[1:00:38] Brianna Jones: Can't top Steve Martin, um, who is a song and dance man. We know that because we love Bright Star so much, threw the baby off the train. Love Bright Star. We love throwing babies off of trains. Um and we still end act one. I'm still baffled by that musical. We love bluegrass so much. Um but now it's just the gas. Yeah, I guess I would have liked to at least seen like a deleted scene or something, like have a version of Steve Martin doing it. You know? I I that doesn't even exist though, I don't think.

[1:01:12] Jess McInally: No, no. Honestly, it's a really really rough situation to be in. Um, one song I do want to talk about that is mostly cut from the movie, but I think it should have stayed in. It was shot for the movie, um, and it's one of my favorite songs in the musical, is the Meek Shall Inherit.

[1:01:22] ♪ Musical number: "The Meek Shall Inherit" ♪

[1:02:36] Andrew DeWolf: It's only so far you can bear.

[1:02:39] Jess McInally: No, no.

[1:02:41] Brianna Jones: This nightmare must come to an end.

[1:02:44] Andrew DeWolf: No!

[1:02:45] Jess McInally: No!

[1:02:46] Andrew DeWolf: You've got no alternative, C Moro Boy though.

[1:02:48] Brianna Jones: It needs to be broke again and unemployed.

[1:02:51] Jess McInally: It's the only solution it can be avoided.

[1:02:53] Andrew DeWolf: The vegetable must be destroyed.

[1:02:59] Brianna Jones: So this is like Seymour coming to terms with like he's a moral dilemma of Oh my god, I have to keep killing people, and this plant just keeps on eating people.

[1:03:09] Andrew DeWolf: I'm so fucked, I'm so fucked.

[1:03:11] Jess McInally: I need to destroy the plant.

[1:03:12] Andrew DeWolf: And he's like, but then what if Audrey doesn't like me and you kind of get why he signs the contracts, and it's this dark thing going on.

[1:03:20] Brianna Jones: But as a person that has played the dentist during this song, I run in as the first reporter, do my quick line, um, there's the chorus, and in that chorus I have to change into a different outfit as people are throwing different things on me, and then I run out there and play a different role.

[1:03:35] Andrew DeWolf: It is so much fun.

[1:03:37] Jess McInally: I know this is dumb, but oh my god, that song is so fun to watch, and like the result is almost always seamless.

[1:03:45] Brianna Jones: Um it's a fine song.

[1:03:50] Andrew DeWolf: I can see why they didn't need it in the movie.

[1:03:52] Jess McInally: I will say the way they shot in the movie is good.

[1:03:56] Andrew DeWolf: Like they had it as a very good scene.

[1:03:58] Jess McInally: Um, and it looks like it costs a lot of money because he's like in this dream world where there's like blood dripping out of the portrait from of Mushnick, and it's a it is as good a scene as any of the other musical numbers in the film.

[1:04:11] Andrew DeWolf: Like it's edited perfectly, it does everything you would expect.

[1:04:14] Jess McInally: Um, Rick Moranis sells it.

[1:04:16] Andrew DeWolf: Um, but it was probably just a time thing, which sucks because the scene's really good.

[1:04:22] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[1:04:23] Jess McInally: But you don't miss it.

[1:04:24] Andrew DeWolf: You and you're watching the movie, you're like, oh, okay, that's gone, and then you move on and the life's good.

[1:04:29] Brianna Jones: It's also like the it is it is the moment where or Seymour could conceivably turn back before he causes too much damage.

[1:04:37] Jess McInally: Yes, which I think you almost need that consideration, and you miss it a little bit.

[1:04:42] Andrew DeWolf: You get it a lot in Rick Moranis' face, but I feel like that's why I'm saying maybe you don't need it in the movie as much because everything is close up and you can see like the expressiveness, and Rick Moranis is doing a great job in that movie, so but on stage, you definitely need it.

[1:05:00] Jess McInally: So Brie, we're gonna pause for a second because I want to talk about the movie and the issues therein, um, with the ending specifically.

[1:05:08] Andrew DeWolf: So in the stage show it ends with um everyone dying and the plants taking over the world.

[1:05:14] Jess McInally: Um, which is a pretty fine ending for a stage show because all the plants are coming out into the audience and it's fun and everyone's like, ah, it's scary.

[1:05:22] Andrew DeWolf: For the movie, um it's 1986.

[1:05:25] Jess McInally: They film it just as it was on the stage show.

[1:05:27] Andrew DeWolf: Um, everyone dies, it's really, really sad, and the plants take over the world, and there's this really expensive like song number that ends it with plants destroying the world and then bursting through the film camera and then looking like it's coming at the audience.

[1:05:41] Jess McInally: And they got the worst like audience feedback reviews during like production.

[1:05:47] Andrew DeWolf: It's like we do not want this movie, this movie's bad because of that ending.

[1:05:50] Jess McInally: We hate the ending.

[1:05:52] Andrew DeWolf: So much that's which they shouldn't they shouldn't have listened to them.

[1:05:55] Jess McInally: I know.

[1:05:56] Andrew DeWolf: Test greetings where three different ones in LA where people are like, nope, but we can't do it, and Frank Oz is like, I should've I guess I didn't make it funny enough.

[1:06:05] Jess McInally: Uh everyone played it too serious, so now I The ending's not supposed to be funny, it's a horror comedy.

[1:06:11] Andrew DeWolf: It he's like, I really didn't want to do it, but then it was basically forced on us by the studio.

[1:06:16] Jess McInally: Howard wrote this new ending, and he just defeats the plant in one foul swoop and they have a happy ever after.

[1:06:22] Andrew DeWolf: And that was the movie until twenty twelve when they released the director's cut, and that is like the best version of this movie.

[1:06:32] Brianna Jones: Which one do you think is better, like just as an idea?

[1:06:35] Jess McInally: Like Do you understand where an audience might come from there?

[1:06:39] Andrew DeWolf: Um, for not wanting the ending where everybody dies and the plants take over.

[1:06:43] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[1:06:45] Andrew DeWolf: Um, I don't know.

[1:06:48] Jess McInally: I guess maybe if they were like they just loved, you know, Seymour so much that they wanted to see him like, but he doesn't sound I don't know.

[1:07:00] Andrew DeWolf: He doesn't sound like a great character.

[1:07:02] Brianna Jones: Do I remember this right?

[1:07:03] Andrew DeWolf: Or does Audrey live as well?

[1:07:05] Brianna Jones: Yeah, she lives too.

[1:07:07] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, no, you can't that you can't do that.

[1:07:09] Jess McInally: They get married or they yeah.

[1:07:12] Andrew DeWolf: They did some insert shots of Audrey during Mean Green Mother, and then they just No, that's that is a terrible ending.

[1:07:18] Jess McInally: Like they th why would you do that?

[1:07:21] Andrew DeWolf: I feel like for that genre.

[1:07:24] Jess McInally: And I don't know, why why do you need a happy ending?

[1:07:27] Andrew DeWolf: Why does everything have to be?

[1:07:31] Jess McInally: It's an allegory, too.

[1:07:32] Andrew DeWolf: Like Faustian bargain.

[1:07:34] Jess McInally: What are you trying to say when he just gets what he wanted anyways?

[1:07:40] Andrew DeWolf: Like No consequences.

[1:07:45] Jess McInally: Um Frank Oz also blamed it on the power of a close-up, where if you're in the back of a theater and there's the bows at the end and you see everyone alright, you kind of are like, okay, that's fine that they died in the story.

[1:07:57] Andrew DeWolf: But you don't get that, you never see them again.

[1:07:59] Jess McInally: They're just gone and dead from the movie.

[1:08:01] Andrew DeWolf: Um and the power of close-ups and the power of empathy is more strong in film than it is on stage.

[1:08:08] Jess McInally: Because you don't have that level of like that fourth wall.

[1:08:12] Andrew DeWolf: Just do those like inserts that you do in the credits where you show the character and then the actor, the actor waves.

[1:08:20] Jess McInally: Problem solved.

[1:08:22] Andrew DeWolf: You know what, Andrew?

[1:08:24] Jess McInally: You did it.

[1:08:24] Andrew DeWolf: You you you solved the problem Frank Oz couldn't.

[1:08:27] Jess McInally: Twenty, thirty years later.

[1:08:30] Andrew DeWolf: I think Shrek really solved it.

[1:08:33] Jess McInally: Shrek didn't do that.

[1:08:36] Andrew DeWolf: Actually the Shrek of the Fourth part that Farquad comes back even though he was eaten by the dragon.

[1:08:43] Jess McInally: Uh and he he waves at the cam at the audience.

[1:08:46] Andrew DeWolf: No, he didn't.

[1:08:47] Jess McInally: I think he's I think he sings in the in the karaoke.

[1:08:50] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, he does, but are you referring to Shrek 4D where he shows up as a ghost?

[1:08:55] Jess McInally: No, I'm not referring I've never seen Shrek 4D, which is an ex uh amusement park exclusive.

[1:09:00] Andrew DeWolf: No, it isn't.

[1:09:01] Jess McInally: They literally released it on DVD.

[1:09:02] Andrew DeWolf: It's on Netflix right now.

[1:09:03] Jess McInally: We could watch it.

[1:09:04] Andrew DeWolf: Oh fuck.

[1:09:05] Jess McInally: I don't want to watch it.

[1:09:07] Andrew DeWolf: Literally, we could just turn this off and watch Shrek 4D right now.

[1:09:11] Jess McInally: What are we doing?

[1:09:14] Andrew DeWolf: Um alright.

[1:09:16] Jess McInally: You guys, this was a wonderful revisit of Little Shop of Horrors, but I think it's that time and fuck.

[1:09:23] Andrew DeWolf: Fuck me.

[1:09:24] Jess McInally: Alright.

[1:09:24] Andrew DeWolf: Hey guys, this is a great revisit of Little Shop of Horrors, but how about we talk about our overall thoughts and our cheese ratings?

[1:09:31] Brianna Jones: Andrew, why don't you start?

[1:09:34] Andrew DeWolf: Um It's uh well I'll I'll talk about the the stage show specifically that we saw.

[1:09:43] Brianna Jones: I really like it.

[1:09:44] Andrew DeWolf: I love the different uh style of puppet that they decided to use.

[1:09:49] Jess McInally: Um I think that it's uh a great stage show.

[1:09:54] Andrew DeWolf: I still think the movie is just kind of the perfect version, but I think that there is some merit to reimagining uh the stage show still because it's still fun to watch.

[1:10:06] Brianna Jones: Um I don't remember what cheese rating I gave it.

[1:10:11] Andrew DeWolf: Um where is our keeper of the cheese?

[1:10:15] Jess McInally: Um if you're willing to give me a second, I can pull it up for you.

[1:10:18] Andrew DeWolf: Uh because I don't want to give it a different cheese rating, because honestly, we've already done it.

[1:10:23] Jess McInally: You know what?

[1:10:23] Andrew DeWolf: That's already that is a fair ass point.

[1:10:25] Jess McInally: Um Bree's gonna give us a new cheese rating.

[1:10:27] Andrew DeWolf: So, Bree, what is your cheese rating of our discussion?

[1:10:30] Brianna Jones: This discussion was so much fun.

[1:10:33] Jess McInally: Um I'm glad you guys, you know, are righting your wrongs by going back and telling the truth and coming here and talking about the stage uh production.

[1:10:43] Brianna Jones: And um because you guys didn't do that, right?

[1:10:46] Andrew DeWolf: You watched the movie, correct?

[1:10:47] Brianna Jones: Yeah, even though we still spent half of this episode talking about it.

[1:10:49] Andrew DeWolf: Because the movie's just so flippin' good.

[1:10:52] Brianna Jones: I am going to make sure I watch the movie now because I've never actually seen it.

[1:10:55] Jess McInally: Um Bree, we should have a movie night where you just come over, I'll bring out the projector, we'll do it.

[1:11:00] Brianna Jones: It'll be fun.

[1:11:01] Jess McInally: Okay.

[1:11:01] Brianna Jones: Um I'm going to give it a monster cheese, because I like monster cheese, and I like this discussion.

[1:11:09] Andrew DeWolf: And Seymour is a monster.

[1:11:11] Jess McInally: You're right.

[1:11:13] Andrew DeWolf: Um Wow.

[1:11:15] Brianna Jones: Wow.

[1:11:16] Andrew DeWolf: What did I give it?

[1:11:18] Brianna Jones: You gave it cheddar, but apparently I didn't give it a cheese rating.

[1:11:23] Andrew DeWolf: Oh my god, that is cringe.

[1:11:25] Brianna Jones: I'm still keeping the cheddar.

[1:11:26] Andrew DeWolf: I know we said never to do cheddar again.

[1:11:29] Brianna Jones: Um, but I'm only giving it cheddar because I gave it that before, so.

[1:11:35] Andrew DeWolf: Cheddar is still good.

[1:11:37] Jess McInally: Um, yeah, I guess I gotta think of my own cheese rating, because I didn't even give it one.

[1:11:43] Andrew DeWolf: Um I guess uh the only cheese rating I can really give it is green cheese.

[1:11:49] Brianna Jones: It's a fresh cheese that is not thoroughly dried or aged, which is white in color and usually has a round shape because it's a mean green mother from outer space, and I'm bad.

[1:12:03] Andrew DeWolf: I see what you did, man.

[1:12:04] Jess McInally: And it was good.

[1:12:05] Andrew DeWolf: It worked.

[1:12:05] Brianna Jones: Um, Juliet, please update that as my previous um little shop thing, because I did not realize how many episodes early on that I just did not give cheese ratings to.

[1:12:17] Andrew DeWolf: I did not start giving cheese ratings until episode 10.

[1:12:22] Brianna Jones: What?

[1:12:23] Andrew DeWolf: And I did not start doing it consistently until episode 18.

[1:12:28] Brianna Jones: Holy shit.

[1:12:29] Andrew DeWolf: I did not know this.

[1:12:30] Jess McInally: This is news to me as well.

[1:12:35] Andrew DeWolf: That is redonculous.

[1:12:36] Jess McInally: Um, but do you know who else is ridonic?

[1:12:41] Andrew DeWolf: Um our patrons.

[1:12:43] Jess McInally: Oh, wonderful patrons.

[1:12:45] Andrew DeWolf: Thank you guys for listening.

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[1:13:05] Andrew DeWolf: Our keeper of the cheese, who we love very much, is Juliet Antonio.

[1:13:09] Jess McInally: Thank you very much, Juliet.

[1:13:10] Andrew DeWolf: You're the best.

[1:13:11] Jess McInally: This show is produced by the wonderful, the incredible, one of my best friends in the entire world, Brianna Joel.

[1:13:20] Andrew DeWolf: We love you so much, Brianna, and we're so glad you're here.

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[1:13:32] Jess McInally: Alright, you guys.

[1:13:34] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, wait.

[1:13:34] Jess McInally: Thank you to the Broadway Podcast Network for having us on the platform.

[1:13:38] Andrew DeWolf: We love you so much.

[1:13:39] Jess McInally: And not kicking us off for killing a dentist and Mr. Mushnick.

[1:13:42] Andrew DeWolf: Anything else we gotta say, guys?

[1:13:48] Jess McInally: Go watch uh little shop.

[1:13:50] Andrew DeWolf: It's fucking Halloween time.

[1:13:52] Jess McInally: Let's go.

[1:13:52] Brianna Jones: Yeah, there's not many Halloween musicals.

[1:13:54] Andrew DeWolf: I'm uh I I I can't wait to force Bree to watch it.

[1:13:59] Jess McInally: It's gonna be a blast.

[1:14:02] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, you guys.

[1:14:03] Jess McInally: We'll see you next time on Musicals with Cheese.

[1:14:22] Brianna Jones: Little shop, little shop.

[1:14:25] Andrew DeWolf: Little shop, little shop, little shop.

[1:14:29] Jess McInally: I don't know the words.

[1:14:32] Andrew DeWolf: Uh oh.

[1:14:33] Jess McInally: Shangalang.

[1:14:34] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, wait, this will all be cut.

[1:14:41] Jess McInally: Okay, let me do another line read then.

[1:14:45] Andrew DeWolf: Our senior and junior stick through thin and through thick.

[1:14:49] Jess McInally: Hey, through sloppy and slick.

[1:14:52] Andrew DeWolf: So come kiss me, Swick.

[1:14:53] Jess McInally: Oh, don't make me sick.

[1:14:54] Andrew DeWolf: Mushnick and son.

[1:15:00] Jess McInally: Oh, what a beautiful performance.

[1:15:02] Andrew DeWolf: That one's keep staying in.

[1:15:04] Jess McInally: I played both the roles.