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[2:07] Jesse McEnally: Hello, I'm Jesse McEnally.

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[2:12] Jesse McEnally: And welcome to Musicals with Cheese, the podcast where I try to get Andrew to like musical theater. And oh no, I've said his name twice. I just need to say it one more time and he'll appear.

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[2:46] Jesse McEnally: Ah! This week we are talking about Beetlejuice, the musical.

[3:13] ♪ Musical number: "The Whole Being Dead Thing" — performed by Beetlejuice ♪

[3:37] Jesse McEnally: Beetlejuice is a stage musical with music and lyrics by Eddie Perfect and a book by Scott Brown and Anthony King. It is based on the 1988 film of the same name about a deceased couple who try to haunt the new inhabitants of their former home and call for help from a devious bioexorcist ghost named Beetlejuice, who is summoned by saying his name three times. The musical premiered at the National Theater Washington, DC, in October of 2018, prior to opening on Broadway at the Winter Garden Theater in April of 2019. It is produced by Warner Brothers and the Geffen Productions. Alright, Andrew, what do you think about Beetlejuice, the musical?

[4:16] Andrew DeWolf: Now, I may have just watched too many bad musicals in a row, but it's fucking awesome. I put a tweet out where Andrew's just like, I fucking loved it. And I was like, whoa! I knew this would be much more up your alley than say Sunset Boulevard, Jekyll on Hyde, or American Psycho.

[4:37] Jesse McEnally: I kinda like Sunset Boulevard, but like, this was just exactly what I wanted to see. Even when we did our Tony's commentary, and I vaguely remember that night, um, you were very positive on what you saw from the Beetlejuice performance.

[4:54] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, I mean, I I didn't really know what to expect. I'll be honest here. Like, um, assuming these are airing in the order we're recording them. I am hugely into American Psycho, the movie, and I fucking hated the musical. I don't even really give half a shit about Beetlejuice, the movie. But this is fucking amazing.

[5:16] Jesse McEnally: Well, I liked Beetlejuice as a kid, and when I heard there was gonna be a musical, I was kinda like, uh, do we need to adapt every single fucking movie into a musical? And honestly, they improved on almost every facet of the movie and added their own stuff to it in a way that felt natural.

[5:31] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, I mean, I would rather watch the musical than the movie, I think. The only reason I'd watch the movie is might maybe Michael Keaton. I don't know if you guys have watched that recently, but Alec Baldwin is so fucking bad in that movie. He is it it is baffling that he had a career after that. That is a career-endingly bad performance.

[5:51] Jesse McEnally: Uh the movie is just so good, I guess, that it made up for it.

[5:55] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, yes, but like even the movie doesn't really make sense, and the musical tries to take on what it is. Like in the movie, like, what the fuck happens when you say Beetlejuice's name three times?

[6:08] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, I don't they didn't like in the musical, they actually explain it, like he's allowed to do stuff. Well, basically the musical sets up like he needs a living person to say his name three times so he can be seen by the living. That is it. It they break it down very early in the first scene. Like, this is what his goal is, and it's very clear.

[6:29] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, and it it is good because otherwise it'd be like, what is this fantasy? What is happening?

[6:37] Jesse McEnally: Right. In the movie, saying his name three times like makes him show up to you.

[6:46] Andrew DeWolf: Or you show up to him, it's weird. It's not consistent.

[6:53] Jesse McEnally: And also, there isn't nearly enough Beetlejuice in Beetlejuice. I think there's like max 20 minutes of Beetlejuice in that movie.

[7:00] Andrew DeWolf: He's like, um, Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs.

[7:05] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, it's like in like I get it, he's the bad guy in in obviously both of these, but he's a fun character that you want to see. He's like the most charming child bride seeker I've ever seen.

[7:21] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, I mean, he's obviously, especially in this one, he's kind of like an internet troll almost, but it's like it's funny. I I like that. I feel like the book writers and like the people behind this got a lot of influence by Deadpool, especially in like Beetlejuice's pansexuality, his wall fourth wall breaking, and like overall, he's not like antagonistic as much as he's just kind of annoying.

[7:46] Jesse McEnally: Yeah.

[7:47] Andrew DeWolf: I can see that. Although, was he antagonistic in the movie?

[7:52] Jesse McEnally: He likes he assaults people.

[7:55] Andrew DeWolf: He does that in this too, though.

[7:57] Jesse McEnally: Not not nearly as bad. He doesn't just walk up to the first woman he sees and make out with her the way he does Gina Davis in the movie.

[8:04] Andrew DeWolf: I guess. I mean, it was 1988, Jess.

[8:08] Jesse McEnally: Oh yeah, that makes it all okay, right?

[8:10] Andrew DeWolf: No, I mean, that's probably why they thought it was okay to put that in the movie. And like they're having a conversation and he's using a stick to look up Gina Davis's dress. It's uncomfortable.

[8:19] Jesse McEnally: It's Michael Keaton, though, I'm fine with it.

[8:24] Andrew DeWolf: But I I think that the show currently rides on the back of its two leads, and they very smartly handle the two leads of this musical, and they take it away from the Maitlands, um, Adam and Barbara, and they focus it's God.

[8:37] Jesse McEnally: Yes.

[8:39] Andrew DeWolf: Directly on Lydia and Beetlejuice. And I find that very like revealing when they introduce Lydia before they even introduce Beetlejuice or the Maitlins. Like honestly, when I realized that the leads from the movie are not the leads in this, I was like, oh, that's so good. This I feel like this took a lot of inspiration from the TV series. I don't know if you remember watching the animated TV.

[9:05] Jesse McEnally: I've never seen the TV show. Not once.

[9:07] Andrew DeWolf: I watched that I watched that before I watched the movie. And in that, like Beetlejuice and Lydia were just kind of friends, and he would bring her into like the Tim Burton world to like help him with his problems. I'm like, okay, that's kind of the relationship Beetlejuice and Lydia have in this one too, where they're just kind of buds.

[9:25] Jesse McEnally: Yeah. And like Beetlejuice is such a like a bad person that like they're friends, but not really. You know, it's like best friends, but the R is in parentheses.

[9:39] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. Kinda like that.

[9:44] Jesse McEnally: But they introduce Lydia, and she sings a song called Invisible, where she feels like she can't be seen because she's just sad about her mom's death, and her dad like doesn't want to address it. And then Beetlejuice reprises that because he's literally invisible and he wants to be seen by people. And it's like they both have the same need in two different ways. And I'm like, oh you guys are brilliant.

[10:06] Andrew DeWolf: Uh honestly, the the way that both of them completely parallel each other in Act 1 and then separate from each other in Act Two is so good. It's so it feels so natural, and it makes you wonder why this wasn't like this. It feels like this is the natural conclusion of what the story should have been.

[10:25] Jesse McEnally: Exactly. Um because in Act 1, they're almost like the same person in a way. They're both kind of self-centered, and they Outcast. Outcasts, and they feel like everyone is, you know. They've got morbid senses of humors, think they're smarter than everyone else.

[10:44] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, exactly. Everyone's dumber than them. Uh, and then it goes to act two, and Beetlejuice stays the same, but Lydia realizes that this isn't how it's how I should be acting. This is wrong. And I think it's really, really good. And that surprisingly, surprisingly good.

[11:04] Jesse McEnally: Like, one of the biggest issues I have with the Beetlejuice film is the relationship between Lydia and her mom. And I think Katherine O'Hara as um Delia Deeds in that film is like on a whole other level from everyone else. Like she's fucking great in her own way. But she treats Lydia like she's her actual birth mother, and that's always bothered me because she's supposed to be the stepmother and have that disconnect there. And really, she just talks to her as if there's blood there, and a and it feels weird.

[11:32] Andrew DeWolf: Her character's way better in this.

[11:34] Jesse McEnally: Whereas in this one, there is very much that disconnect, and she's just like a fucking guru crazy person. I fucking love her in this. She's actually really funny.

[11:47] Andrew DeWolf: I think she's brilliant, and she sings this great song, No Reason. That I that is actually a really good song on top of being hilarious, which is so rare. It just kind of reminds me of what my old guru always said, you know. Uh sometimes it's good to change. I don't have a funny thing to say here.

[12:08] Jesse McEnally: Andrew gave up! He didn't even try.

[12:11] Andrew DeWolf: I gave up. I'm putting my sunglasses on now. I'm out of here.

[12:18] Jesse McEnally: But no, and the guy that plays Beetlejuice, um, Alex Brightman, is absolutely absolutely incredible.

[12:26] Andrew DeWolf: Yes. Uh I don't know how the hell he sings in that voice.

[12:32] Jesse McEnally: But he's also very his like first claim to fame was portraying Dewey in School of Rock, and he was like the only good thing about Andrew Lloyd Webber's School of Rock.

[12:43] Andrew DeWolf: I I haven't seen it yet, no spoilers. I'm really looking forward to that.

[12:47] Jesse McEnally: Really?

[12:48] Andrew DeWolf: No, not at all. Not at all, no.

[12:50] Jesse McEnally: It has some good s good moments.

[12:53] Andrew DeWolf: I like the movie. They should have just got Jack Black to do it, honestly. Just get him back.

[12:57] Jesse McEnally: I mean, I don't I don't even know if I'd prefer Jack Black to Alex Brightman, though.

[13:03] Jesse McEnally: Alex Brightman is like a force on himself. Like he could hold the whole stage. No, he is really good in this. Like, really, really good. And the thing is, I would not expect anyone to meet his equal, but the fact that little Sophie Anne Caruso at age 17 is able to be on his level every time they're on stage together. It's so incredible. Like, she is a star in the making.

[13:29] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. It's fantastic. I don't know how many times we can just say that it's really good, but yeah. It's so good. And the fact that they're not afraid to go for the pathos. They're not afraid to be taken seriously for a minute. Have a moment where they're not aiming just to make you laugh.

[13:49] Jesse McEnally: So we talked about all the good stuff that they changed from the movie to improve, but they also did keep some stuff that was good in the movie, I think. Like what you aimed for. How about we talk about some of that?

[14:02] Andrew DeWolf: Go for it.

[14:03] Jesse McEnally: Okay, well, number one, keeping the Act One closer as "Deo" is hilarious and really funny. Um, I'm gonna say that is great. You see, they have to hold those cards because they know like the people are waiting for these moments, but we have to one-up what they're expecting. So let's make the fucking pig sing at the dinner table.

[14:25] Andrew DeWolf: Yes. It's fantastic. And how they introduce it and I know that's how they do it in the movie, but it's just so good. But a lot of people complain, like the reason why it's funny in the movie is because it's literally just like the recording album coming out of their mouths, where in this one they're actually singing it.

[14:42] Jesse McEnally: I've heard complaints like that before. I'm not gonna complain about that. I think it's funny. And it's tech, it's their being possessed, so why wouldn't it be like their voices? And I think the fact that like when the puppetry comes in, it just the fact that they're able to one-up what happened in the movie equally as well. Like gives you what you wanted plus more.

[16:10] Andrew DeWolf: Yes. But it's still them keeping something that's good from the movie, so they're not just like, oh, let's just change it all. They s it's still there, you know?

[16:10] Jesse McEnally: Yes. They know what works in the movie and they know what takes away. Like, the thing that I like is when they bring back "Jump in the Line" at the end.

[16:10] Andrew DeWolf: Yep.

[16:10] Jesse McEnally: And but they also mix in the reprises of all of Lydia's themes, like when she starts singing "Dead Mom" in a home in the middle of it, and they're like backing it up like "Shake Shake, we wanna go home." It's like it feels like okay, this is a cohesive whole. It's not just a bunch of things hodgepodge of things shoved together, like another musical we recently talked about.

[16:10] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[16:10] Jesse McEnally: Um, other things that they kept was obviously the costume design of Beetlejuice and like the set design being heavily inspired by that Tim Burton kind of Beetlejuice vibe.

[16:10] Andrew DeWolf: Right. Very strong.

[16:10] Jesse McEnally: Uh, love the black and white stripes still. Really good. But they didn't keep like the hair the same. Like they changed enough of it that Alex Brightman can make the look of it his own.

[16:10] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[16:11] Jesse McEnally: But it's still obviously Beetlejuice. Like you're not gonna look at it and be like, who who's that? Is that his own original character, Jetlejuice?

[16:19] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, exactly. I agree with that too.

[16:23] Jesse McEnally: Um, yeah. No, I there's a shit ton of great things in this, and uh I don't know. Alright. Can I talk to you a little bit about some of the things around this musical that I find interesting?

[16:37] Andrew DeWolf: Sure.

[16:37] Jesse McEnally: Like the actual politics of life.

[16:40] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, politics of life. That's one of my favorite topics, and you know that.

[16:43] Jesse McEnally: You love talking about politics.

[16:45] Andrew DeWolf: I know you. You love.

[16:47] Jesse McEnally: Yes. I love politics. This is musical theater politics, so it's nothing like that.

[16:51] Andrew DeWolf: Okay, good.

[16:54] Jesse McEnally: So remember when we saw the Tonies and like the moot musical "Tootsie" was winning all the awards?

[17:00] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[17:01] Jesse McEnally: And this kind of didn't win anything. I think it just I don't even think it won set design, honestly.

[17:07] Andrew DeWolf: Which I think is horrible.

[17:09] Jesse McEnally: I mean, I think that's a good one. I'm not gonna say that this deserves to win a ton of stuff because I mean it was up against like "Hadestown" as well, right?

[17:17] Andrew DeWolf: Right. I agree.

[17:18] Jesse McEnally: I wouldn't say this is as good as "Hadestown." It's a different animal than "Hadestown." I think this is a better crowd pleaser than "Hadestown."

[17:25] Andrew DeWolf: Um, I don't think it's as good technically. Would I rather see this or that? I mean it kind of depends what mood I'm in, to be honest.

[17:33] Jesse McEnally: But right. Yeah. But "Tootsie" I haven't seen, but "Tootsie" took home all the awards, like it was doing so well that like they had an advance well into next year. Like, and then "Beetlejuice" somehow swept away like every bit of audience attention. Like they were expecting "Beetlejuice" to close, and because it did so well in the Tonies and the advertisements they made and like them promoting it on their own, like it started selling out, and now "Tootsie" is like playing to empty audiences because they did the too far advanced seats.

[18:11] Andrew DeWolf: Um, I think uh one thing I wanted to say. I we mentioned we were talking about uh my trip to Times Square at one point, and you were asking about what advertisements were the best. "Beetlejuice," I think is the best advertising down there right now.

[18:25] Jesse McEnally: Um, if at least one of like what do you remember as like the advertisements down there?

[18:30] Andrew DeWolf: In Times Square they have this big billboard that goes around a corner where it just says "Beetle" and then "Juice" on the other side, which uh really does stand out as like something that's just kind of interesting.

[18:42] Jesse McEnally: Um, and I just distinctly remember that, whereas a lot of the other advertising I just it doesn't stay with you, I guess. Um, it bothers me a lot that a lot of movies are getting adapted into musicals and getting fast tracks, and it means it's a lot harder for original musical theater content to get there. But uh it makes me so happy when people put the effort in to make sure that there is an arc to the characters and that the story makes sense and that it's a crowd-pleasing environment.

[19:12] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[19:12] Jesse McEnally: I can understand being upset about something like "American Psycho: The Musical" getting fast tracked to Broadway. Or "Tootsie: The Musical" even. But this takes the material and honestly improves it in such a way that it's like this might be better than the movie, you know?

[19:30] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[19:30] Jesse McEnally: And that is so rare. I think the only other one I can think of that comes to mind is "Shrek: The Musical" that improves upon the movie.

[19:37] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, which I think that one is kind of debatable depending on who you talk to. I haven't seen it, so I won't weigh in, but yet.

[19:47] Jesse McEnally: But I don't I think this you I think people would at least be able to say that this is as good as the movie.

[19:53] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[19:54] Jesse McEnally: And it pays tribute to the movie and loves the movie while also being like, let's do our own thing. It's obvious that it has a lot of love for the movie.

[20:01] Andrew DeWolf: Oh yeah, of course.

[20:02] Jesse McEnally: Um, but it does it's not afraid to veer off when it feels like it has to. And it also makes the movie work in a two-act structure, which is something that is a huge problem with a lot of these movie adaptations, I find.

[20:16] Andrew DeWolf: Now why are you?

[20:19] Jesse McEnally: Uh, well, just in our previous episode of "American Psycho," they have to fuck up everything to make it work as 2x.

[20:29] Andrew DeWolf: Uh, and you always bring up "Frozen," where it's like they they want this big Act One closer, but it's a moment that does not work there. You know what I'm saying? Whereas "Deo" works very, very well as an Act One closer, especially if you follow it up with like an attack that leads to a plot relevant thing.

[20:47] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, and I think they the structure of this is not the same as the movie in any way, really, but they have this character thing going on with the parallel between Lydia and Beetlejuice throughout Act One and then them breaking apart in Act Two, where it works as a two-act structure without needing the plot stuff that's in the movie.

[21:08] Andrew DeWolf: I feel like Tim Burton doesn't quite know what a good script is, so I feel like a lot of potential for great material falls through his fingers way more often than one would expect with someone with his visual eye.

[21:20] Jesse McEnally: Well, with "Beetlejuice" in the movie, you have it they're following Barbara and Adam uh through the whole thing, and there's like a lot of scenes that are not present at all in the musical here. Because in the movie they like go to the other side or something and they talk to somebody, which I think they do do, but it's very briefly in this, where I think it's a lot longer in the movie.

[21:43] Andrew DeWolf: Um, because Tim Burton just wanted his moment to show off like his designs for all the ways that people could die.

[21:50] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, which is neat, I guess, but like that's one of the most horrific part of that entire film. Like, you remember the guy that's like all just like ash and he's like smoking cigarettes?

[22:01] Andrew DeWolf: Like, yeah.

[22:02] Jesse McEnally: It's fucked up. It's kind of like depressing. Like it is sort of when you die, you're just however your body was, that's how it is. That kind of sucks.

[22:09] Andrew DeWolf: Well, that makes that makes me interested that Adam and Barbara, they drowned, but they look like themselves. Is that just because that's a life how they lived it?

[22:18] Jesse McEnally: I don't know. Like, yeah, like shouldn't they be like purple and like wet all the time? But they were genuinely good people.

[22:25] Andrew DeWolf: Maybe.

[22:25] Jesse McEnally: I don't know. Unlike True Queen that had her little accident.

[22:30] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. It's odd. Um, but yeah, that that type of stuff isn't really present in this, so in the cheaper.

[22:36] Jesse McEnally: It is for one song that's a really fun song.

[22:39] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, but in the movie, if I remember, it's it's probably like 10 minutes.

[22:44] Jesse McEnally: Mm-hmm.

[22:45] Andrew DeWolf: Maybe more.

[22:46] Jesse McEnally: Probably more. A little bit.

[22:48] Andrew DeWolf: Like 15 minutes.

[22:49] Jesse McEnally: More screen time than Beetlejuice.

[22:51] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, and through that whole thing, you don't have Beetlejuice, which is a fun character that is just not present at all during that. Uh, in and you you don't really have access to the other family at all, which is I mean Lydia's on the other.

[23:06] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, so it's just Barbara and Adam who are just kind of bland.

[23:12] Andrew DeWolf: I think that Gina Davis is trying her best.

[23:15] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, but the characters themselves are written as goody two-shoe, oh Golly G Wilakers characters. It's like, I don't know.

[23:22] Andrew DeWolf: But I like that.

[23:23] Jesse McEnally: I we like I like that's an interesting premise that I think this takes about as full as I can, or what if two nerds had to try to scare people out of their house? Like I guess, but it's just like that's a funny concept.

[23:37] Andrew DeWolf: I can see that working very well.

[23:37] Jesse McEnally: I can see it working really well, and it it does work in the movie, but it's just I think that it's better as them with them as side characters.

[23:47] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, I agree. That's why "Deo" works so well in both the movie and the musical.

[23:51] Jesse McEnally: Can I ask you a question?

[23:54] Andrew DeWolf: Sure, sure.

[23:55] Jesse McEnally: And this is something that this musical has been criticized for, but I also think I've also praised another musical, so I want to bring it up here while I can. It's representation of suicidal teens. Where she's just like, my ma my dad's like um dating this guru lady, and I'm gonna kill myself and jump off the roof because I'm totally alone.

[24:18] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[24:19] Jesse McEnally: Um, I mean I'm gonna defend this in a second, but I want your opinion on it.

[24:26] Andrew DeWolf: It's something where I guess I when I was watching it, I just didn't really even think about it. Like it just kind of felt fine to me.

[24:34] Jesse McEnally: So I guess I I don't know. Cause now that you're bringing it up, like, yeah, that is kind of fucked up, but I guess because everything around it is so good, I didn't really even can stop to consider it.

[24:34] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know.

[24:48] Jesse McEnally: Well, I think like as a character, Lydia's goal is to find her mom, and she has definitive proof in like two characters that there is a life after death.

[24:58] Andrew DeWolf: That's true.

[25:00] Jesse McEnally: That's what I'm saying. That is probably my mind. That's probably why it doesn't feel as fucked up because she knows that when she dies, she's not actually gonna be like dead, like gone. Because she has actual proof that there is an afterlife.

[25:14] Andrew DeWolf: So I guess it doesn't feel as fucked up because of that. Whereas if it was just like she didn't meet the ghosts and she's just I'm gonna go kill myself, it's a little more fucked, I guess.

[25:25] Jesse McEnally: Yeah. Not that it isn't still fucked, but it's I guess it's slightly less fucked because of that.

[25:32] Andrew DeWolf: I will say, knowing the character Beetlejuice from the movie, it was a little weird to see him being like, you don't want to kill yourself, it won't make things better, it'll just make you dead.

[25:43] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, but we we all know why he was saying that. It wasn't because he actually gave a shit, it was because he wanted a living person to say his name.

[25:52] Andrew DeWolf: It felt like he gave a shit, though.

[25:55] Jesse McEnally: I think he does legitimately give a shit about um Lydia. I think he likes her in like a I don't I don't really even know, like he relates to her kind of way, because they're both very morbid.

[26:06] Andrew DeWolf: He wouldn't hurt her if he was like just for no reason.

[26:10] Jesse McEnally: Well, he wouldn't intentionally hurt her for no reason, right?

[26:15] Andrew DeWolf: He would definitely unintentionally do it because that's just who he is.

[26:22] Jesse McEnally: You wanna go into a mid-show then talk about the music?

[26:26] Andrew DeWolf: Um, absolutely.

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[27:31] Jesse McEnally: Andrew, is there anything else you want to say before we get back to it?

[27:34] Andrew DeWolf: Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.

[27:41] Jesse McEnally: Andrew loves La La Land.

[27:43] Andrew DeWolf: Let's get back to the show.

[27:46] Jesse McEnally: Hi, Brent.

[27:47] Andrew DeWolf: Hi, Brent.

[27:49] Jesse McEnally: No Pilates, no more yoga, Namaste, you freaking posers.

[27:53] Andrew DeWolf: From the cradle to cremation.

[27:56] Jesse McEnally: Death chess needs a little conversation.

[27:59] Andrew DeWolf: I have mastered the art.

[28:05] Jesse McEnally: So how about we all make a start on the song I hope you're ready for a show about death So what'd you think about the whole being dead thing?

[28:24] Andrew DeWolf: Uh I like this song quite a bit. Uh it obviously is a huge fourth wall break and he's talking directly to the audience, but it's a lot of fun.

[28:33] Jesse McEnally: That's fine.

[28:34] Andrew DeWolf: It's fine. It sets up the world in that he's gonna do that a lot.

[28:38] Jesse McEnally: Yes, and I think with him as a main character and as almost not almost, he kind of is the narrator, I would say, right?

[28:47] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[28:48] Jesse McEnally: As close as we get to one at least.

[28:50] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, so he has to talk to the audience, so I think it really works. Um in also setting up that, like, hey, there's gonna be a lot of morbid stuff in this, and we're not gonna take it seriously, so just get used to that.

[29:02] Jesse McEnally: You can take a fucking joke, right?

[29:05] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, and with Beetlejuice as a character saying that it makes perfect sense.

[29:11] Jesse McEnally: Yes, and this one deserves the name Beetlejuice, where the film kinda doesn't.

[29:16] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, because there's just so much Beetlejuice in this.

[29:21] Jesse McEnally: Um, the song itself is just a lot of fun. Uh, they go with what would you call the music style in this?

[29:26] Andrew DeWolf: It's I think it's like traditional rock.

[29:30] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, kinda traditional, but kind of mixed with a more of a showtune sound, I think.

[29:35] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, like Eddie Perfect is basically a pop songwriter, but he understands like storytelling in a way that a lot of pop songwriters don't.

[29:44] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, all of these songs are very specific to this show.

[29:48] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, and specific to the plot element and story element or rule element that they're telling.

[29:55] Jesse McEnally: This isn't Jekyll and Hyde, where you can just take any of the songs and just play them on their own, and they still make sense. With this, you have to understand what's actually happening most of the time.

[30:06] Andrew DeWolf: And they're usually pretty specific, like, um, not to jump ahead, but like, um, Barbara 2.0 is very specific about Barbara and Adam's life, and I think that's a really like fun song.

[30:17] Jesse McEnally: It's like, yeah, we are kombucha people.

[30:20] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[30:21] Jesse McEnally: And it doesn't really make sense outside of that.

[30:24] Andrew DeWolf: Not at all.

[30:25] Jesse McEnally: Um, which is a good thing, actually.

[30:28] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, specificity in musicals are important.

[30:31] Jesse McEnally: You don't you're not trying to make EPs here.

[30:34] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, you don't realize that until you watch two musicals in a row that don't have that.

[30:42] Jesse McEnally: What you weren't a big fan of Take Me as I am, someone like you, this is the moment.

[30:49] Andrew DeWolf: Uh, not a common man.

[30:52] Jesse McEnally: Okay.

[30:53] Andrew DeWolf: Uh fucking uh let's talk about this.

[30:57] Jesse McEnally: Let's talk about Dead Mom.

[30:59] Andrew DeWolf: Dead mom.

[31:01] Jesse McEnally: I'm sad of trying eye out my crescents.

[31:06] Andrew DeWolf: I'm a bunch of broken faces.

[31:10] Jesse McEnally: It was you, homade behold.

[31:13] Andrew DeWolf: Every day, dad's staring at me like a hurry up, get happy mobile.

[31:23] Jesse McEnally: Forget about your mom.

[31:30] Andrew DeWolf: Daddy doesn't wanna be wants me to smile.

[31:39] Jesse McEnally: Stay for a while.

[31:49] Andrew DeWolf: You won't believe unbest that we call.

[31:56] Jesse McEnally: This is Jess's favorite song, so I'm just gonna let him.

[32:02] Andrew DeWolf: I will say I find her calling her mom dead mom a little bit cringy at first, but I guess it's not that bad.

[32:12] Jesse McEnally: Well, she's mocking her dad who just says, Your mom's dead, she's a she's your dead mom.

[32:18] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, I get that, I get that. And like hearing the song on its own, I'm like, oh, that's weird. But like seeing it in context, I'm like, oh, okay, that makes a lot more sense.

[32:27] Jesse McEnally: Yeah.

[32:28] Andrew DeWolf: Again, why context matters.

[32:30] Jesse McEnally: Context is important.

[32:32] Andrew DeWolf: You can't take this out of this show because of that.

[32:35] Jesse McEnally: Um, and the fact that you feel like her emotional, like, I just wanna talk about you to someone. I wanna feel like you're still alive instead of pretending you didn't exist.

[32:45] Andrew DeWolf: It's very specifically about like, I don't want you to disappear from my life.

[32:50] Jesse McEnally: Which is very relatable, I would say.

[32:53] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, because a lot of people do just try to pretend that the person that they loved who died just kind of never existed and move on.

[32:59] Jesse McEnally: And she's like, I can't move on. Like, that's that's my mom. It's yeah, it was your wife, but she was my mom. Like, that means a lot more to you than you probably realize.

[33:10] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, and it's it's just that is a real thing that people deal with, where you know, sometimes people grieve by just, oh well, let's just move on by pretending it never happened at all. Like, this person just didn't exist.

[33:24] Jesse McEnally: And for a show as very unhealthy as this show is, there's not a single joke in this song. There's not one jab to the audience. There's not it is sincere. It is a is because the character gives a fuck, we give a fuck.

[33:40] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[33:40] Jesse McEnally: I think it's a it's a very good song. Uh for sure. It knows what it's trying to be.

[33:44] Andrew DeWolf: And the biggest problem I see in a lot of musical songs is they don't know what they're trying to be, and they don't understand how they fit into this.

[33:54] Jesse McEnally: And every song in this show fits where it should be, and they sound like the characters who are singing it. Like this is like the first, like really rocky song, cause Lydia's a bit of a rebel, and the Maitland songs are a little bit more bouncy, like, ooh, goofy, and Beetlejuice sounds like Danny Elfman-esque.

[34:11] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[34:12] Jesse McEnally: It's it's all perfect. It all fits in. Speaking of tonally relating to a character, let's talk about no reason.

[34:19] Andrew DeWolf: I hate to break it to you. The universe is just the contents of time, matter, and space.

[34:24] Jesse McEnally: Yeah.

[34:25] Andrew DeWolf: 91 billion light years across in the earth's a small place where good people die.

[34:30] Jesse McEnally: No, yeah.

[34:31] Andrew DeWolf: And famine and war.

[34:34] Jesse McEnally: The Pacific Islands are sinking, but negative thinking is hardly the cause.

[34:38] Andrew DeWolf: You think life is all unicorns and rainbows because they're bored.

[34:49] Jesse McEnally: We're gonna die.

[34:50] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, you and I, and meaninglessness and this is um fucking uh Delia's song, right?

[35:06] Jesse McEnally: Delia, yeah.

[35:07] Andrew DeWolf: Um she's like this girl that worships like her gurus and like buys crystal and all that. She's very, very into her guru.

[35:17] Jesse McEnally: Um has a much larger role in the movie, and I love the actor that plays him in the movie, but uh it they smartly diminished his role a bit in this.

[35:29] Andrew DeWolf: Um fuck. I I'll be honest, this song eludes me a little bit. Can you give me a quick refresher?

[35:39] Jesse McEnally: Um I like it because it shows both Lydia's point of view, which is positive nihilism, like joyful nihilism in the same way that Beetlejuice has it. Whereas Delia is like everything has to happen for a reason because my guru said so.

[35:53] Andrew DeWolf: And it sounds like very tribal, very Indian, like vagary, like India sound to it, and I find that hilarious.

[36:03] Jesse McEnally: Like, this is what Delia sounds like. This is kind of her song. She goes through like a few like like sayings and shit like that, like in just I don't remember.

[36:13] Andrew DeWolf: I'm sorry, I think I want the show, but I don't I don't have a photographic memory. She like takes a turn into like um you have to go and take your eggs and go and freeze them.

[36:25] Jesse McEnally: Yeah.

[36:25] Andrew DeWolf: Like it goes like real off the rails about like Delia's own like insecurities as well.

[36:30] Jesse McEnally: And Lydia's like, I don't even know why I'm here.

[36:33] Andrew DeWolf: She also has this thing where she mispronounces all like everything.

[36:37] Jesse McEnally: Yeah.

[36:37] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, like she takes on all these things, but she doesn't quite understand them.

[36:42] Jesse McEnally: Like one of them, she's like, Crystal, speak to me. What do they say? Buy more crystals.

[36:45] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[36:49] Jesse McEnally: She is every um. Oh my goodness. Everyone who lives in Sedona, Arizona.

[36:54] Andrew DeWolf: Everyone that like read eat prelove.

[36:57] Jesse McEnally: Say my name.

[36:58] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know your name.

[36:58] Jesse McEnally: Well, I can't say it.

[37:00] Andrew DeWolf: How about a game of charades?

[37:01] Jesse McEnally: Yes, let's play it!

[37:03] Andrew DeWolf: Two words.

[37:05] Jesse McEnally: Drink beverage?

[37:06] Andrew DeWolf: No.

[37:07] Jesse McEnally: Wine?

[37:07] Andrew DeWolf: No.

[37:08] Jesse McEnally: Yes.

[37:08] Jesse McEnally: Okay.

[37:09] Andrew DeWolf: Okay, first word.

[37:09] Andrew DeWolf: Bug?

[37:09] Jesse McEnally: No.

[37:10] Andrew DeWolf: Close, but no.

[37:11] Jesse McEnally: Beetle Beetlejuice.

[37:12] Andrew DeWolf: Wow, I'm impressed.

[37:13] Jesse McEnally: And all you gotta do is say my name three times.

[37:16] Andrew DeWolf: Three times in a row. It must be spoken unbroken.

[37:19] Jesse McEnally: Ready?

[37:19] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[37:19] Jesse McEnally: Okay, go.

[37:21] Andrew DeWolf: Beetlejuice.

[37:23] Jesse McEnally: Yes.

[37:24] Andrew DeWolf: Beetlejuice.

[37:25] Jesse McEnally: Yes!

[37:27] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, this is gonna be so good!

[37:31] Jesse McEnally: You're so smart.

[37:32] Andrew DeWolf: Stand up, roll.

[37:33] Jesse McEnally: I'll go back to offer lection note, but I'm from my chances down below.

[37:38] Andrew DeWolf: Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice being young at Beetle.

[37:41] Jesse McEnally: That doesn't mean that I'm an easy mark.

[37:43] Andrew DeWolf: I'm summoning with piranhas.

[37:44] Jesse McEnally: It don't mean shark.

[37:46] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, life sucks, but not that much.

[37:47] Jesse McEnally: Okay, Beetlejuice.

[37:49] Andrew DeWolf: Beetlejuice be a don't spare them.

[37:51] Jesse McEnally: Can we talk about say my name?

[37:52] Andrew DeWolf: I like this one.

[37:53] Jesse McEnally: You mean Andrew's favorite song?

[37:55] Andrew DeWolf: I don't think it's I don't know if it's my favorite. I don't know if I have a favorite one in this one.

[38:00] Jesse McEnally: To be honest, I'm just gonna say my name.

[38:02] Andrew DeWolf: The music is good in this, but it's I don't think it's the strongest point.

[38:05] Jesse McEnally: I think the strongest point is the characters in the story.

[38:09] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[38:10] Jesse McEnally: But the music is good. Like, if the music wasn't good, I wouldn't like this as much, but it's not like amazing.

[38:16] Andrew DeWolf: I'm not gonna lie. Like, when the Tony season happened, the show I expected to listen to the least was probably gonna be Beetlejuice.

[38:24] Jesse McEnally: But now it's like the one show from that season that I returned to the most.

[38:27] Andrew DeWolf: As much as I love Hades Town, you can't just easily turn that on. Whereas this one, I'm like, I'm gonna fucking listen to all these fucking bops for the rest of the night.

[38:36] Jesse McEnally: Say my name, I think it's a ton of fun, and I love that they keep playing with her saying Beetlejuice twice and then saying something else that starts with a B.

[38:43] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[38:45] Jesse McEnally: Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, because you're so smart.

[38:50] Andrew DeWolf: Stand up, bro.

[38:51] Jesse McEnally: I'll think about your hands. Let you know.

[38:55] Andrew DeWolf: It's it's great. The lyrics are really clever in because of that, and I also like that it ends and she's saying say my name, referring to herself.

[39:08] Jesse McEnally: Like, once again, it's another one of those moments where her and Beetlejuice's arcs and goals cross one another, and they're basically mirror images.

[39:18] Andrew DeWolf: Oh yeah, and she was about to jump off the roof and then she pushes him off the roof, which is funny.

[39:22] Jesse McEnally: Yeah.

[39:24] Andrew DeWolf: What?

[39:25] Jesse McEnally: He was already dead.

[39:30] Andrew DeWolf: Um, yeah, and it also tells story. It shows that the Maitlands can figure out how to do possession. So not only is it fun, it is plot relevant.

[39:40] Jesse McEnally: Absolutely. And it also very cleverly does like the charade scene from the movie in like five seconds.

[39:46] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, that was the only thing that felt a little rushed, but I mean I guess they have to get it over with.

[39:51] Jesse McEnally: So we all fucking know his name at this point.

[39:54] Andrew DeWolf: Like, yeah, that was like how we learned his name, you can take your time, but like right then it's like fucking get over with. Get it through.

[40:01] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, like come on. Just just come on.

[40:04] Andrew DeWolf: So do you want to talk about Deo?

[40:06] Jesse McEnally: Um, I mean, I guess we kind of have to, but at the same time, this is a song that is not written for the show, obviously. So it's interesting that we should talk about that, but it is the Act One closer, and yeah.

[40:22] Andrew DeWolf: I like it. I do like the song. It's a fun song, and I really do like how they perform it. Um I guess the main thing to talk about with this song is how they do perform it and how they introduce it.

[40:33] Jesse McEnally: I like that it's introduced straight through dialogue at first. Um I don't know, what do you think? What do you think on this?

[40:42] Andrew DeWolf: I just like the puppetry and how it one-ups everything from like the movie. Like it knows everyone has seen that movie and it knows that.

[40:52] Jesse McEnally: And they realize we gotta do something a little different, but also give them what they want.

[40:57] Andrew DeWolf: You know what I do like about this though? Um, even though they know everyone has seen the movie, they still make sure to explain what is happening in the previous song.

[41:07] Jesse McEnally: Right.

[41:08] Andrew DeWolf: So if you hadn't seen the movie, it would still make sense.

[41:12] Jesse McEnally: Like even in the movie, it doesn't really make sense because they don't set up that the Maitlands know how to do this.

[41:18] Andrew DeWolf: At least in the musical they do.

[41:20] Jesse McEnally: Yeah, they actually set it up better than they do in the movie.

[41:24] Andrew DeWolf: W fucking what do you know?

[41:27] Jesse McEnally: Alright. I there's not that much to say about this song because it's just like a reggae song. It's fun, it's goofy, it is fun, it's a good act ender. Also, him saying it's showtime is the best thing in the whole world. I could listen to him say that on repeat.

[41:41] Andrew DeWolf: That beautiful sound.

[41:50] Jesse McEnally: Sound that is no more condescending adult tag in around.

[42:11] Andrew DeWolf: I'm this but now they all see me.

[42:16] Jesse McEnally: They're out of my crap.

[42:18] Andrew DeWolf: We got the next real symphony.

[42:30] Jesse McEnally: I do have more to say about that beautiful sound, though. That beautiful sound is great. Um I don't have much to say about that song, so I'm gonna let you go.

[42:38] Andrew DeWolf: Um I just I honestly it's a bop. It's a really catchy melody. Um and it just kind of really perfectly shows what they're doing. It also has a really great character thing that's woven into the song where Beetlejuice is like, you know what be better? Even more of me, and then he starts singing harmonies with more of him. It's really just fantastic.

[43:02] Jesse McEnally: It's fun, it has nothing to do with the fucking plot.

[43:06] Andrew DeWolf: Um, no, not really, but it's all it's a really fun moment, and sometimes that's all you need. Not everything needs to be directly relevant.

[43:12] Jesse McEnally: No, it's a great act opener because it has nothing to do with the plot. Let's people sit down and be like, whoa, what's going on? But at the same time, it is mildly pro plot relevant because it's showing what is happening at the house now that they have taken control, so obviously not really necessary, but like it was.

[43:31] Andrew DeWolf: I guess it is it is necessary to show that Lydia's kinda in on like Beetlejuice's way of life of fucking with people, and the same like joyful nihilism that he experiences too.

[43:43] Jesse McEnally: Absolutely.

[43:48] Andrew DeWolf: Tired of talking to myself here.

[43:52] Jesse McEnally: Back at home, you don't exist.

[43:55] Andrew DeWolf: So here I am in the abyss.

[43:59] Jesse McEnally: Are you really in this place?

[44:02] Andrew DeWolf: It's like the emptiness of space.

[44:06] Jesse McEnally: I could search for all eternity and never see your face.

[44:13] Andrew DeWolf: Help me out.

[44:21] Jesse McEnally: I'm lost without you standing.

[44:26] Andrew DeWolf: Stuck on this impossible road.

[44:30] Jesse McEnally: No idea which way to go.

[44:32] Andrew DeWolf: Whichever path I choose, I lose, you know.

[44:36] Jesse McEnally: And I don't know which way, so I don't know which way, so you always saw life as a game.

[44:55] Andrew DeWolf: But since you left, it sucks to play.

[44:58] Jesse McEnally: I'm beaten up and bruised, confused by rules that alter every day.

[45:09] Andrew DeWolf: Let's talk about home.

[45:10] Jesse McEnally: What did you think of home? Cause I love this song so much.

[45:14] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, I like this song, but I think you're honestly gonna have way more to say about it, so I think you should go first.

[45:19] Jesse McEnally: Why don't you just go? Cause I know you're not gonna talk about all the things I want to.

[45:23] Andrew DeWolf: Okay. I think it's a really good song. I really like how it just I I think I've already kind of said everything I had to say. It shows that she has changed her ways and now she realizes what she actually wants. Isn't what she wanted before. It's it's good. I don't know.

[45:39] Jesse McEnally: It is, but it's also her closing her arc on her mom, realizing like, fuck, like, you're just floating here in the emptiness of space, and it's terrifying. Like, I can't just go my entire life chasing you knowing I'll never find you. Like, it is such a depressing moment, but also like her coming to terms with her father.

[46:02] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, it's it's a good song. Um I just yeah, again, I don't have that much to say on that.

[46:09] Jesse McEnally: Alright. What about creepy old guy?

[46:13] Andrew DeWolf: Creepy guy is kind of funny. I feel like it's actually a little bit too indulgent for my taste, actually.

[46:20] Jesse McEnally: Like, what do you okay? Negative opinions. Explain.

[46:23] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, my negative opinion. I get it, but you can only say the word creepy old guy so many times before it's like, okay, it's really not that funny anymore.

[46:34] Jesse McEnally: I mean, repetition is important for like any song. That's kind of why no song in American Psycho works.

[46:41] Andrew DeWolf: I get that, but they repeat it a lot. Like they say creepy old guy maybe like a hundred times in the song.

[46:48] Jesse McEnally: I like the joke. I think the joke is funny. I just think it might have it the song itself gets a little played out.

[46:57] Andrew DeWolf: I you know what it reminds me of actually is maybe a song from like something rotten or something like that, where it's like it's kinda funny the first time you listen to it, but then every time I go back, it's like less funny.

[47:10] Jesse McEnally: I guess I can see that.

[47:15] Andrew DeWolf: It you know what it is? It's not clever. Like, uh lyrically speaking. The joke is very upfront, it's in the title of the song, and like that's really about all you get with it.

[47:29] Jesse McEnally: Well, fine if you wanna be such a downer.

[47:33] Andrew DeWolf: Well, what did you think about it?

[47:35] Jesse McEnally: I I agree with you. It's not my favorite. It's a little annoying. I don't think it's like bad or anything like that, but like the I mean the joke is really funny the first time you hear it, you're like, oh shit, that's really funny. But then like every subsequent time you're like, oh, yeah, I mean, okay.

[47:57] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, I wanna marry a creepy old guy after that song. I think the funniest part is when Beetlejuice says that he's a creepy old guy. Like he knows it.

[48:07] Jesse McEnally: Now I finally got my underage bride! I'm a creepy old guy.

[48:21] Andrew DeWolf: It's like he's just realizing it.

[48:27] Jesse McEnally: Alright. Andrew.

[48:29] Andrew DeWolf: Yep.

[48:30] Jesse McEnally: What is your overall thoughts on Beetlejuice and your cheese rating?

[48:34] Andrew DeWolf: Oh man. Um, let's see. Overall thoughts on Beetlejuice is it's very good. Um I honestly want to see this live if it's possible before this gets closed. I don't know how long they're expecting it to run, but I do want to see it. I like it a lot. What else can I say? Uh as far as a cheese rating, um I'm actually gonna do this based on a real life cheese that I'm eating at the moment. Uh I got uh old croc sharp cheddar, very sharp cheddar. Uh incredibly tasty. Uh so I'm gonna give it that. Um I love Beetlejuice the musical. Like I shockingly like this musical so much more than I expected to. And I think it's a shock of like you could have half-assed this and still released it and got some cool visuals. It could have been like SpongeBob is what it could have been.

[49:26] Jesse McEnally: Exactly. It could have been lazy, and there's not there are some things I may not love about this musical, but there's not an ounce of it where effort was not put into it to make it the best possible thing it could be, and its own thing apart from the movie.

[49:39] Andrew DeWolf: You know what? It's incredibly cheesy. I'll say that as well. In a good way, in a great great way. Because that's really when it comes down to it, the core of cheese is just giving it your all and not caring. And this embodies that, you know? I'm like Tootsie, which just makes me angry every time I think about it. Despite it having one or two songs I kinda like.

[50:04] Jesse McEnally: Um, what's your cheese rating?

[50:06] Andrew DeWolf: Um, I'm giving it paneer cheese, because I love paneer cheese.

[50:10] Jesse McEnally: Is it really cheesy?

[50:12] Andrew DeWolf: It is found in Indian food, and it just like takes a lot of like what could be like really hard to eat stuff because it's so spicy, and lightens it up and makes it so delicious.

[50:22] Jesse McEnally: There you go. That actually fits this pretty well. I thought that'd be great because I'd like a movie adaptations, that's usually something really spicy that I don't particularly like, but it's paneer cheese that makes it so much better.

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[51:19] Jesse McEnally: Andrew, is there anything else you want to say before we wrap it all up?

[51:22] Andrew DeWolf: Um check out Beetlejuice, the musical. I can't recommend it enough.

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