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[0:05] Bobby Steggert: I'm Bobby Steggert, and this is The Quiet Part Out Loud.

[0:14] Bobby Steggert: I have to admit, I have a bias towards struggle. In part, being a therapist means that most of the time people are coming in to talk about something that they're struggling with. But upon deeper reflection, I realized that struggle is also integral to my identity. From early childhood, struggle was at the center of my experience, and it came to be how I identified and understood myself. It was actually a way to reclaim a difficult experience as a personal strength, kind of like a badge of honor, even though at times it reinforced my isolation. I even harnessed personal struggle into two different careers, both in theater and in mental health. The following conversation with Gideon Glick in this episode is something different.

It was a really refreshing reminder that not all parts are necessarily defenses. Gideon shares his joyful part, a part that protects, of course, but in a much more optimistic way, in that it connects him with others through the agenda of authentically sharing and learning and exchanging humanity. And it's not just a state of being, it is a part that takes work and commitment, and that is a conscious choice to share joyfully with others, especially in a city like New York, where the unspoken rule is to live and let live, to put on your headphones and your blinders and just get through the commute. Gideon also shares how connecting through joy has been the antidote to a history of anxiety, and one that I had really no idea about.

He has me assessing my own definition of joy, which tends towards serious, meaningful intimacy with those I know best. He offers a simpler, everyday alternative and one that is available to all of us. Oh, and as a caveat, he'll mention a job that he's working on in Paris, a new TV show. He's not allowed to say what it is, so he'll leave us all wondering. I really think that we should both get an award for perseverance because I think we tried like 15 times to make this happen.

[2:39] Gideon Glick: I'm really sorry.

[2:41] Bobby Steggert: No, I mean you're in another continent, for God's sake.

[2:45] Gideon Glick: I really dropped the ball when I was in Paris. Like, I think because of the time zone difference, I don't know. I was just bad at calling people back and responding.

[2:54] Bobby Steggert: Sucks.

[2:55] Gideon Glick: When I go back to Paris, I have to get better at that. Sometimes I'll just let my emails go forever, and it almost feels like an active rebellion against the busyness of life.

[3:06] Bobby Steggert: So I get that too.

[3:07] Gideon Glick: I have right now 6,517 unread emails.

[3:12] Bobby Steggert: That's really overwhelming.

[3:14] Gideon Glick: I go through them. A lot of it is things I should unsubscribe from, but I don't really want to go through that process either. But when I was in Paris, everything went into the ether.

[3:24] Bobby Steggert: Is it because you're walking down beautiful historic streets with a block of cheese and an espresso?

[3:30] Gideon Glick: Yeah, and a beautiful piece of bread, too.

[3:34] Bobby Steggert: That sounds wonderful.

[3:35] Gideon Glick: It was. So really, we should just start with the part of you that you're curious about sharing with me with the world.

[3:43] Gideon Glick: That's a very large question, right? I can tell you what's on my mind right now. Um, and from there we can unravel it. Currently, I'm thinking about this idea of sympathetic joy.

[3:58] Bobby Steggert: Do you know what that is?

[4:00] Gideon Glick: No, say more.

[4:01] Gideon Glick: Yeah, it derives from compersion, which I think like the poly community really embraces. It's the opposite of jealousy, where you derive joy from your partner's anything, really. And I was thinking about it in the wider range, and so I started Googling it and this idea of sympathetic joy where you derive joy from other people's joy. And you want other people to feel joy. And I'm right now in a spot where I'm very happy because I am working, I'm acting, I'm writing on this TV show that's very new for me. I love everybody that I work with. It feels really good. And I find that first of all, I like that feeling. I want other people to feel that feeling. But I also find that how important connection is.

I find that if you ask questions of people and actually talk to them, like truly talk to them. Because I think we really just say the basics of hey, how are you? I'm good, how are you? Be around, but actually have conversations and listen. It is so fulfilling. And you can do it with anybody. And obviously, I live in an apartment building. I have a lot of people in my building. Now I take my headphones off and I want to have a conversation with somebody. And you obviously need to create some boundary that you can't let everybody in to a certain degree, but I think we all have an antenna for that. But I found doing that has allowed me to derive joy from other people's joy, and it has allowed me to connect with people, and it feels much more human and on set as well.

And ask questions of people. What do you do? There are hundreds of people on set. Who are all of you? And I see you every day, but we don't talk. And actually talking has brought my defenses down. So I don't get I'm not as nervous on set. And I'm coming from a little bit more of a place of joy. So, anyways, that's the wavelength I'm on right now. And that's on my mind. But I don't know if that's helpful to your permission statement for this podcast.

[6:04] Bobby Steggert: No, it really is. So my first response is that joy is a choice, right? It's a choice to remain open, to remain curious. And I would love to explore joy as a part of you that you are actively cultivating. And on top of that, we knew each other pretty well when we were much younger. I've always felt that about you. Even when you were a very young actor in your early, early 20s, that you led with joy, that it was out of genuine curiosity and a choice to connect. So let's start when you were young. How did you connect to joy as a kid?

[6:46] Gideon Glick: That's an interesting question because first of all, I would say because I was a kid actor, I found, oh, this is something I enjoy. I derived joy from it. I felt I was good at it, but that made me feel good. But it's interesting. I have found, especially as I've gotten older and doing more things that can technically feel like they have higher stakes. I've always admired people who can come to the table with joy and let the creative process be joyful. I think anxiety and fear really can get in the way. What's interesting? I was thinking about when we worked together and we did a reading of Speech and Debate and it was recorded. And if you listen to my voice in that recording, I am so nervous that my throat is so tight.

And Stephen Cameron, I joke about this. I truly sound like a gay alien. Like that wasn't my speaking voice. And I wasn't on my breath, and my heart was racing. I used to have a lot of performance anxiety. And I think that came from coming to New York at 17, not really having craft yet, not really understanding what I was capable of and what I could give, having the door be wide open with brain awakening, and not necessarily being prepared for it. And not necessarily, I don't know if I was what's the right word? I guess ready for it, but I also don't think it was time. I wanted to go to college. I wanted to learn other things. I wanted to cultivate something a little bit bigger that wasn't just being an actor. And I think being just an actor made me very anxious.

[8:35] Bobby Steggert: That's so interesting to me because my memory of that, we were in LA when we did that. You had originated that part. That part was built on you, and it was still something that made you nervous.

[8:47] Gideon Glick: I was nervous throughout all of Speech and Debate when we did it off Broadway as well. But I was also nervous because we were doing it out of context. So all of a sudden we're standing at a microphone and we're not really performing it. And that for me, I couldn't compute in a way. But I was always nervous. It was a part of the engine. And I think as I got older, I learned how to cultivate that more. It's interesting in recent time now, it's starting to come from joy. And that is really new for me. And it's really exciting. When I did Maestro, we improvised that whole movie. And my audition for it, I put myself on tape, and then I had a session with Bradley Cooper on Zoom, and then he offered it to me in that Zoom.

But he never asked me if I could improvise. He never said, Is that something you've done? Is that something you're capable of? So I showed up on set for the first day, and he's just like, all right, just go. And I'm like, I go, what? Like, just go. And there's a moment where you're like, okay, Steven Spielberg's right there, Bradley Cooper's right here, he looks like Vernon Bernstein. I could choose to freak the fuck out. Or what I chose to do, and this is interesting that you say choose joy. What I chose to do, it wasn't joy yet, but what I chose to do was okay. So I have never proven that I can do this. So if I'm bad. And so what I chose to do was not raise the stake and say, I didn't purport to be able to do this.

What I purported to do were those scenes, but we never did those scenes. And it really freed me out. So that was the first real being on camera feeling really alive and really free because we had no text. So all you could do was listen and show up. But I was still a little scared. And interestingly, on this TV show, I think it's because I know everybody so well, not having fear is just a profound thing.

[10:54] Gideon Glick: It's interesting. Have you met Jonathan Groff?

[10:57] Bobby Steggert: Yes, but years ago.

[10:59] Gideon Glick: He doesn't really have a lot of anxiety. And he'll agree with that. But what I really admire about Jonathan is he's present and he derives joy.

[11:09] Bobby Steggert: He is, if you watch him in Merrily, you could see somebody, and it really is pure. And I've been close to that since I met him when I was 17. And I've always been confounded by it, especially doing eight shows a week, or the joy really dissipates. And that's a whole different animal. So here's my question for you. Do you believe when we were young that in my experience of you, I misinterpreted you because I still think there was joy, I still think there was connection. What was happening in terms of the quality of the curiosity and the connection that you had as compared to now?

[11:45] Gideon Glick: I don't think you were misinterpreting because I feel closer to who I am right now and what I believed I have been in this moment than I've ever been. And that is also where joy is driving from. I feel very seen by people who love me and respect me. And I feel like I've been given such an incredible opportunity to be a writer on this TV show right now and act on this TV show. And it's given me a confidence about myself that I've always had, I've always had confidence in the sense that I was very precocious. So I was very aware of what I was. I came out when I was 12. I've never had real hang-ups about my sexuality and about sex and relationships that I've had. And I've always been a very curious person.

I really like connecting with people. I think because of my hearing, because I'm partially deaf. I can't hear it in my right ear. It's artificial. I'm losing hearing in my left. I think they've always had a little bit of anxiety that I didn't really understand in social situations. And I think as I've gotten older, I realize, oh, that's partially why. When I'm at a party, it's hard to hear. When I'm at a table, it's hard to hear. When I'm talking to groups, it's hard to hear. And then that can make me uncomfortable or make me feel awkward to go back. The sort of person that I've wanted to be is a kind person. I think we're all everything, right? I can be an asshole. I can be ornery, etc. The kind of person that I've always wanted to be.

Kind is curious, wants to make people laugh, wants to laugh, wants to smile, wants to have fun. I like pleasure. And I like when other people feel that way too. To the sexuality theme. It took me, I'm 43, literally about 40 years to find joy in sex. I'm not kidding. How did you find genuine joy in sex and sexuality so early?

[13:28] Gideon Glick: It's a good question. I started experimenting really early. So I was always aware that this is something that was titillating to me. I never felt shame. So I think that was just intrinsic. I don't know if that came from I don't think it even came from my parents. We didn't talk about sex very much. When I came out, we talked about it a bit, but I didn't feel shame before that. So I've always just been, it comes with curiosity. And I thought, oh, this feels good. If it feels good, why would it be wrong? And I know people have sex to procreate, and I just never really questioned it. And it felt like an extension of getting to know somebody, which I like. It just came out of real genuine curiosity.

I think people are fascinating. I also think like I'm a seeker and I like to learn from other people. And I'm pretty open. And I like to talk about anything. And because I hope that I can bring my honest self to a conversation, and then the other person can too. And we can learn something from it. That that's always been my MO.

[14:40] Bobby Steggert: You also mentioned compersion early on in the context of relationships. And that to me connects to the idea of comparison. And especially as an actor, you're so often comparing your success to others, the perception of others to the perception of you. It always seemed to me that you were able to avoid that. Is that true? That you were able to sort of march to the beat of your own drum?

[15:06] Gideon Glick: To a degree, yes. I think I've always been told I'm an unusual person or special, which is a nicer way of saying it, but unusual is pretty cool too. Unique. Look, I have one ear. My right ear is artificial. That is something that is my point of view. And it's not a common point of view. It's not a common anomaly. So people don't have it. So I think I've always had that. That is a very objective thing that is very different. But I've always felt when it's right, it's right, and when it's not. She was very involved in my career, especially because I was a kid actor. And then we sort of broke away. We had to find a new relationship with it all. But I remember I wasn't working, but I would turn down auditions, and she'd be like, Why are you doing that?

Because she was worried about me and she wanted me to work. And I just there were things it didn't spark me. And so that is something that I've always intrinsically understood. It's not sparking me. I just don't I don't want to do it. I would say, especially with musicals, I have a lot of fear with music because I find rhythm to be hard and breath support and so forth. So unless it's something I really care about, I'm just not gonna do it. And so that's something I've always felt. But in terms of comparing myself, I've definitely suffered from that. Or I go, Oh, why does he have that? And I don't have that. That's gone away for now. At this point, I really like my life and I really like my career. And I don't want any more than this.

[16:37] Gideon Glick: You did something also really interesting when you were a little bit younger. You decided to move from New York. You lived in Philly while still maintaining a career.

[16:46] Gideon Glick: That was because I met my husband. We're both from Philadelphia. And so I didn't move to Philly, but I wanted to be with him more. And so I sporadically rented out my apartment if I wasn't working, and went to go live with him or would spend the week there. Because we were long distance for two years. It was a way to be with him because he was doing residency, so he had just no flexibility, and I did. And so what is joy in terms of your personal life right now?

[17:16] Gideon Glick: Again, it goes back to connecting. I'm deriving a lot of joy from talking to as many people as possible on the street, in the elevator, on set. Let's work, but with my friend, I derive joy from going to see things. I drive joy from being with my dog who you can't see that I'm holding on to my left right now. I realize my happiness is his happiness, his happiness is my happiness. That shit's contagious. That's what's bringing me joy. But right now it's connection. I am I'm feeling it in a very deep way. And again, I think I've reconciled with the fact I've always thought I was introverted, but it's I'm not. I'm extroverted. I realize I get energy from people. And I didn't really understand that. It's a recent come to Jesus moment.

[18:03] Bobby Steggert: That's fascinating. Most people, including myself, become less extroverted as they get older.

[18:10] Gideon Glick: Yeah. How did you start to realize it? And also why did you assume you were introverted?

[18:14] Gideon Glick: I think my hearing, I think it made me shy. I think feeling a little awkward or strange. I think I've gotten to a place where I'm much more comfortable with myself. And as a result, I just feel more grounded and free. I right now have less of a critical sensor. And it feels really amazing because it's allowing my defenses down and talk to people.

[18:41] Bobby Steggert: So you were saying earlier how your work was sometimes fueled by anxiety, even in hearing your voice on that recording. How did it start to change? Because your work's always been wonderful. So how did it change in your internal experience? And how do you believe it's changed externally?

[18:59] Gideon Glick: I think when I started to embrace the anxiety, I was able to harness it. It was easier to do it when it wasn't a musical, because when you're doing a musical and your heart is racing and you don't have breath support, you crack. And there are like you can hear it. In the same way I think you could hear it on that recording. That was me very nervous. And I felt, again, with rhythm, because I have anxiety about staying on rhythm, I found a freedom in text because I thought, oh, I can it can go this way or it can go that way. Oh, if I'm feeling this, it can go this way, it can go that way. And I didn't feel like I was tethered to a rhythm. And so that let me feel free. And I said, Oh, okay. I can use this anxiety.

I can use like where my heart is going. And I can say, the other day, for some reason I woke up at 3:30 in the morning and I had to go to set. And rather than thinking, oh fuck, I'm so tired. I'm gonna be so tired today. That's a big scene. I first thought, okay, everybody in the crew has woken up at this time, and they're good at their job. And then I thought, okay, maybe my character woke up at that time. And that's just who he is right now. So I don't work against it. I embrace it. I say, this is where it's called wherever you go, there you are. It's just sometimes it is that easy. And so I think earlier on it was just accepting this is my anxiety. And I'm anxious, but I can use it. I can use it. It's my heart races, so do my emotions. So I can I have a little bit more access to them. I feel alive.

[20:34] Bobby Steggert: Do you remember when it really started to feel different when you thought, oh, this is actually a different actor, this is a different experience for me?

[20:40] Gideon Glick: It started happening in the last couple of years. I haven't done theater since the pandemic, so I don't know if this translates to the stage because I think it's a very different beast. But starting to do camera work where I made peace with the fact the stage was ephemeral. I said, Oh, I had a bad show today, but I probab maybe I had a good show yesterday, and it doesn't matter. It's more about memory, and because it's not frozen in time. So I made peace with that. But camera work is permanent. And then I made peace with okay, but there's an edit, and then it's not up to me, it's up to whoever my director is, and they're gonna piece together the performance. But really, what it is that it's just being present and alive and not caring, not caring about the result at all.

And so it's been a slow process because I still feel like I'm learning a lot. This is my first time being a series regular on camera. There's a lot of stimulus, and I'm learning a lot. But this is the most in this moment, and again, you're getting me at a good moment. Talk to me in six months. I might sound like a very different person. I am a Gemini. But it just feels like play. It just feels like I'm playing around and having fun.

[22:02] Gideon Glick: The other thing I'm wondering if you have had the experience that I had or if it felt different.

[22:08] Gideon Glick: Many of the characters I played in terms of my career were outsiders in some way, queer, different.

[22:14] Gideon Glick: And I know that's how so many of the characters you played would be characterized. Did you ever identify with that otherness? Do you still identify with that otherness in a way that has felt isolating?

[22:25] Gideon Glick: Yeah. I think it comes and goes. I'll be honest. Can't believe I'm invoking Barbara Streisand again on another podcast. But I've listened to her memoir twice, and there's something about her otherness that she was able to cultivate, and it allowed her to be quite literally the greatest star, to quote Funny Girl. And there are moments when it's your superpower, and there are moments when it can feel isolating. And I think she's full of contradictions, and I think we all are, and I think that's why I like her so much. Is that it's all of it. It's multifaceted. And part of my joy right now is like understanding the negative feelings at the same time. And that it doesn't take the floor out. It's not like I'm happy 24/7 or feeling secure 24/7.

It's that I understand that they exist in a duality and they're always there together. And when they are there together, I'm not starting from scratch every time. That is a new, more profound feeling. I think having one ear, feeling very different, being the only gay kid for a very long time. When I came out, people weren't out in middle school, high school. And it's interesting when you talked about anxiety, but I played a lot of anxious people, and that was helpful to me. Because I could say, "Oh, I'm anxious, the character's anxious." And so, like they're in these neuroses. So it doesn't, whatever I am, is what I am. And that's what the character is. I've done my work, I memorized my lines, I've done whatever research I feel like I need to do.

And then at the moment, you just have to let go. That's all it is. You just have to let go and listen, and it will come. I believe that fully. And I think if the text is good, the text does the work. Sing a Sondheim song. You don't have to do anything, just say the words, and it does it. There are so many brilliant writers. We've got to do Stephen Cameron's work together. Like I feel very lucky with the writers that I've gotten to work with because it makes my job easier.

[24:30] Bobby Steggert: You're really underlining this incredibly important point in different ways that joy requires connection. When is it currently still a challenge?

[24:39] Gideon Glick: But I'm tired is one of them. In times of strife, there are a lot of external factors. But weirdly, when I'm feeling cranky or whatever, I just start talking to people. And I know it's—I think I'm laughing at it because it's new for me where I'm going, "Oh, I don't, I feel a little off or whatever." And then I start talking to—I was just at the vet. And we just started making jokes with each other. There's a woman who was—her name is Jade. She was working at the counter. And again, there's banter. People are really capable of bantering. Like everybody. And so like you just—once I start connecting with somebody, I start to feel joy again. So that is what kind of brings me out.

[25:23] Gideon Glick: What I'm thinking about is so I spend all day, every day speaking very consciously and very meaningfully to people. And one of my blind spots as a human is that because of that, because I value deep talks so much, I devalue or am sometimes blind to the opportunity in banter in simple connection. And so for me, the idea of talking to someone who was serving me at a counter or the secretary in a vet's office feels almost impossible to me. And so what you're talking about really inspires me into the idea of simple connection, which is just as meaningful.

[26:01] Gideon Glick: Yeah. I would imagine it must be so challenging because it's a muscle. And so you're developing one muscle, but I think there is—it's both of them. And I think sometimes I think actors specifically can be very all or nothing. And I think there's something to be said about the small talk and the big talk. Because I like big talk. But I do think banter goes into that, but we don't have time. I'm just at this counter. The bill was high for my poor little doggy. And then she was like, "He needs to get a job." And I was like, "Oh, yeah, he's gotta pull his weight." And then we're talking about what kind of job he would have. She said, "A model." I said, "My dog was a model." I said, "Well, what kind of model is he gonna be?

I guess a Muslim model." And then she—I said, "Oh, what's your name?" And she said, "My name is Jade." And I said, "Oh, I'm listening to this fabulous song, 'Jade Green' by Kacey Musgraves." She said, "What is it?" I said, "Jade Green by Kacey Musgraves. You should listen to her." That was it. It made me feel really good. And I do feel like we connected in that moment.

[26:55] Bobby Steggert: So when did it start? When did you transition into this experiment that is now becoming your way of life in terms of talking to strangers like this?

[27:05] Gideon Glick: Pretty new. You're getting me at this has been like—I would say a month. I was pretty lonely by the end of my time in Paris. And I was homesick. And I didn't really fully comprehend it until I came home. And all of a sudden, I'm speaking the same language as people. Because I don't speak French that well. And because of my hearing, it's a little bit of an obstacle. And also I realized, "Oh my God, I wasn't communicating with people." There was a lack of communication because there were all these barriers. And I only realized later. And I pride myself at understanding what's going on with myself in the moment. But this was not one of those moments. And it was only later. And I was just in Fire Island with an amazing group of people.

It was my birthday, and everybody was so—nobody lost their shit. Everybody was happy. Everybody was singing songs and dancing, and it was very loving and warm. And my dog was there, and he was chiller than he's ever been because he's not a city dog. And that form of connection felt really powerful. And I've had that before in Fire Island, but usually it goes away when I come back to the city. And again, the thing that I practice is being social. So you could say I'm choosing joy, but I'm actually practicing affability and gregariousness or whatever term you want to use. But really, I'm just pursuing connection. So that has been a more profound thing. But again, it's been a month. I typically get very in a honeymoon phase with something, and then it can dissipate. I'm not sure. This one feels changing in a strange way.

[28:48] Bobby Steggert: My overall philosophy as a therapist, and I'm learning this through my clients every day. Connection is the cure. No matter what. If we are brave enough to share whatever we are experiencing, whatever part is leading us, there is relief and there is joy on the other side. And I'm really interested in the idea that this phase, if you call it that, or perhaps hypomania, who knows? Who knows? Nothing wrong with that. It came out of a moment of isolation for you.

[29:16] Gideon Glick: And that's also not surprising.

[29:18] Gideon Glick: Yeah, exactly. I agree with you. It made me appreciate New York City more too. Because Paris taught me to look up. And now I'm in New York and I'm looking up and goddamn, it's a beautiful city. But it made me also miss my community. It made me miss running into people on the street, running into people at the gym, like running into you at the gym. That's really fun and exciting. And I just didn't have that in Paris. I'm very fabulous. Don't get me wrong. Love to live in Paris. But I was homesick. And so it was nice to learn that. And it did teach me, "Oh God, you're an extrovert." It's shocking a little bit.

[29:54] Bobby Steggert: And so full circle, what I experienced of you was extroversion, but you're saying it was extroversion fueled by anxiety.

[30:01] Gideon Glick: I used to leave conversations being like, "What did I say? Did I say the wrong thing?" Or blah, blah, blah, blah. I once left an opening night because I was so anxious about everybody. Like I really suffered from anxiety. I met my husband. I fell in love. I feel loved. It's a profound feeling. We've been together for nine years. He's taught me how to love in a way. He's taught me. I feel secure. And so I don't know. I used to, if somebody doesn't respond to a text, I used to get, "Oh God, why do they do that?" I don't care. I like the person. So I'll text them again. It's not a game for me. And I was never really good at playing games. And I don't want to play games. I just want to say, if I like something, I'll say I like this.

If they—I'll compliment people if that's what appeals to me. Make them smile. Make them feel good. I think that's all we want. We want to be accepted. We want to be seen. That's all I think we want. And we want to be loved. I feel really lucky that I do feel seen. I do feel loved. And I want other people to feel that way too.

[31:04] Bobby Steggert: What I really appreciate about what you share is that it's always a choice, right? Happiness doesn't just like come and wash over us. It's something that we really have to gear ourselves towards and work on. And your narrative is just so perfect in terms of that illustration.

[31:20] Gideon Glick: Thanks.

[31:21] Gideon Glick: Yeah. When you asked me that question of what do you do when you're not feeling joy, I talk to people. This isn't universal, but for me, it brings me out of it. Because being human is hard. There's so much suffering. If someone can make you smile, and you can make someone else smile, it comes back to you. If you really want to be a happy person, I did the Happiness Project. Yeah, I did it a long time ago and it disappeared. And I've read Buddhism. I've read—and I've always been searching. And it feels like in this moment it's all coming together in a way that I'm surprised by. And again, I probably should get a meditation practice. I think it would help. But for me, it's about this sort of energy force that you can create with somebody, anybody. And it's so human and it's so grounding. And that to me feels like nutrient. It feels like food.

[32:17] Gideon Glick: What also scares me in terms of my work these days is that technology is really splintering people. It is making everyone turn inward and turn towards their screens. And like you said, instead of looking up, like Paris taught you, we're looking down. And especially in a place like New York, where many of the listeners of the show might live, the unspoken rule is that you don't share, you don't talk. That is the social contract we've all signed. And so you're fighting that. That's a really cool thing that you are realizing you can push against in really meaningful ways.

[32:55] Gideon Glick: Thanks. Yeah. It's the one thing that feels active that I'm consciously doing. The one thing at this moment.