In this episode, Jose talks to playwright Victor I. Cazares about their limited series Pinching Pennies with Penny Marshall: Death Rituals for Penny Marshall, in which the legendary filmmaker comes to life as a financial advisor sharing her wisdom with OnlyFans content creators via Zoom.

Cazares also talks about the pop culture that formed them, and how they have created a space for themselves in a field that suggests they are not Latinx or queer enough for the kinds of works being produced. Cazares speaks about form and how it relates to a medium, and discusses some of their favorite telenovelas.