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Ep 29 - The Curious Yeller

We've turned into an actual fan support podcast for a week or two!!! Murray, Stomp, Diego, RJ, and Jasmin answer questions from the Discord about the rehearsal process, keeping your various tracks straight, character creation, improv in general, and what kind of sandwich that guy over there is eating... Read More

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46 mins
4/2/25

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We've turned into an actual fan support podcast for a week or two!!! Murray, Stomp, Diego, RJ, and Jasmin answer questions from the Discord about the rehearsal process, keeping your various tracks straight, character creation, improv in general, and what kind of sandwich that guy over there is eating.

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[0:30] Alex Stompoly: All right, what's up nerds? Welcome back to Ale! And Well Met! It's the twenty sided-

[0:33] RJ Christian: And Well Met! And Well Met! And nice to meet you!

[0:38] Alex Stompoly: That joke will never die. Thank you, Travis, for starting it. I'm Alex. Who else is here?

[0:45] RJ Christian: You got RJ on the mic. Diego on the mic.

[0:49] Jasmine Malave: Jasmine on the other mic. Who had to take a second to polish off their-

[0:53] Diego F. Salinas: My smeared off eyes. I'm not working tonight.

[0:56] Alex Stompoly: Oh and Stomp over here, I have coffee. Hey baby, what's up? We're hanging out, we're- you know what? I'm a kitten.

[1:03] Diego F. Salinas: Diego wisely and beautifully asked the Discord in the podcast channel if there were things that they'd like us to discuss and you know, it turns out you guys would like us maybe to stop fucking around for like a week or two and actually like talk about the show that we're in.

[1:20] RJ Christian: There will be plenty of time to do that on May 12th.

[1:22] Alex Stompoly: Yes, yes, there will be much fucking around in May and June but for now-

[1:27] RJ Christian: And we're recording this on April Fool's Day so-

[1:31] Alex Stompoly: We're gonna keep fucking around! So here's the thing, take all of our answers with a grain of salt.

[1:37] RJ Christian: Well this will actually come out after April Fool's Day-

[1:39] Alex Stompoly: It will come out April 2nd. It's gonna come out on opposite day.

[1:43] RJ Christian: I came out on opposite day. Did you really?

[1:46] Alex Stompoly: No, I have no idea. Can you imagine? Everyone else went in the closet.

[1:50] RJ Christian: April Fool's!

[1:52] Alex Stompoly: I looked at my parents, I said I'm straight. Haha, it's opposite day!

[1:58] RJ Christian: In my head it was that like somebody had established that it was opposite day.

[2:02] Alex Stompoly: Nah, I came out in a Bed, Bath, and Beyond parking lot.

[2:07] RJ Christian: That's the perfect place to come out.

[2:09] Alex Stompoly: Yeah, we were shopping for stuff for college. I hadn't come out yet, to my parents anyway, and we were in a Bed, Bath, and Beyond parking lot.

[2:14] Jasmine Malave: You were really picky about your sheets for your college dorm room.

[2:17] Diego F. Salinas: Girl, those came from Target. They're room essentials. We understand the brand.

[2:20] Jasmine Malave: Oh yeah! I used those for years.

[2:22] Diego F. Salinas: Oops, still do.

[2:23] RJ Christian: Used them for years, washed them twice.

[2:26] Alex Stompoly: No, that was too silent. No, no, that's a joke.

[2:28] RJ Christian: April Fool's! April Fool's! I wash my sheets.

[2:31] Jasmine Malave: We just don't know if that's real.

[2:34] Diego F. Salinas: Diego is married now, someone else is taking care of the bed linens. It's fine.

[2:37] RJ Christian: The straight curse is broken.

[2:38] Alex Stompoly: Thank god. God, goodbye with a little help from our friends.

[2:42] RJ Christian: Yeah, alright, so we'll just start reading them. We can jump in.

[2:45] Alex Stompoly: We can start. This is a good one from Vesper. What does a rehearsal day look like?

[2:50] RJ Christian: At first, I would guess it was more learning the lines and portions of running practice shows, but now that everybody's been in the company for a while, do y'all goof around with random improv games or practice lifting each other as rehearsal?

[3:01] Diego F. Salinas: We've been rehearsing a lot lately. I think we may be the only show off-Broadway that's rehearsed as much as it's performed.

[3:08] RJ Christian: Just about. I mean, the early rehearsals, we didn't start doing anything that looked like the show, I want to say, until like week two?

[3:17] Jasmine Malave: Yeah.

[3:18] RJ Christian: Maybe like week three.

[3:19] Diego F. Salinas: Oh, the initial rehearsals?

[3:19] RJ Christian: Yeah, like way back a year ago.

[3:21] Diego F. Salinas: The first week and a half was really like getting to know you improv games.

[3:26] RJ Christian: Yeah, a lot of improv games. There was a day we just like played Jackbox together for a while.

[3:30] Jasmine Malave: Oh, that's so fun.

[3:31] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah.

[3:32] RJ Christian: Yeah, we played a- that was actually- that exercise was how the players got to work on like splitting the room for like combat options.

[3:36] Diego F. Salinas: I think it's actually what the Jackbox game is called, Split the Room.

[3:42] Jasmine Malave: Yeah.

[3:43] RJ Christian: And so it's trying to make two- you give up two choices that actively like make the room- your goal is for the room to be like dead even between which two.

[3:50] Diego F. Salinas: That was a fun day. We also did a lot of really- I'm gonna use the word obscure, but not in a derogatory way, but like a lot of obscure movement exercises just to like explore-

[3:58] RJ Christian: We did a lot of viewpoint stuff.

[4:00] Diego F. Salinas: We did, a lot of viewpoint stuff, but a lot of like that movement for ourselves and movement with each other, which was a lot of the early ensemble stuff, which was a lot of- I think why this group has been and will continue to be particularly close, because that first week and a half was a lot of spatial awareness and coming together as like a unit and being- allowing yourself to be guided. And again, I'm gonna use the word manipulated, but I don't mean that in like, you know, a negative connotation.

[4:26] RJ Christian: Physically led.

[4:27] Diego F. Salinas: Physically led and manipulated with each other before we even got to the idea of like improv, making ourselves, making each other laugh. And then really like the script didn't happen until like the third week. And that- a lot of that had to do with, at the time, the DM and TK, they already knew it. I mean, they've been doing it for forever. So it was getting everybody else ready before folding that up.

[4:50] RJ Christian: Yeah. And then it was just like learning the way the show went together. But like, I haven't thought about it in a while. It was a very theater, like college theater classy for a while, which was really, really fun and nice. And yeah, like we did like, God, there is a viewpoints exercise where you stand in a circle and everybody is quiet. And you try to jump at the same time without anybody leading it or without anybody following. And if you think that sounds easy, get four of your best friends together and try to do it. It's wild.

[5:24] Diego F. Salinas: But the fact that it can go from being like inconceivable to like, oh yeah, that's what that feels like in like, what, like 10 minutes?

[5:32] RJ Christian: It was fast. It was real fast.

[5:33] Diego F. Salinas: We did another exercise where we would like throw like a tennis ball and try to- we'd throw the tennis ball and try to get the tennis ball to land in another person's like moving hand as they were moving and also throwing a tennis ball at us. Very hard to describe, but it was another one of those things of like physical synchronicity and like, like cast bonding, but also just like getting a vibe for each other. I don't know.

[5:58] Jasmine Malave: Well, we were yes anding in those moments too, right? Like I remember like without anybody telling us, we all just started adding shit to whatever game we were playing constantly, which is great.

[6:08] RJ Christian: I will say now that like the show is built, there's not- rehearsals are super quick. And I feel like Jasmine, you have like some more wisdom on this as being put into the show after it opened, but it's really just like, here's the blocking. Memorize your lines on your own, work on your character on your own. We'll see you on opening.

[6:29] Jasmine Malave: I can't remember how much we did with y'all. Yeah, when you and Will came in.

[6:36] Diego F. Salinas: I came to see the show a lot before I even got the contract. Just wanted to be like aware of what was going on. A bunch of people wanted to come see it with me who love D&D. And I also was just kind of like aspirationally like, just in case I get a contract or something down the line, I want to be aware of what's going on. And so I kind of had a good idea of what was happening.

[6:58] Jasmine Malave: And then I also like, as soon as it happened, I came and saw you guys like six times before I even joined rehearsals. So once I jumped in, I felt really confident about what we were doing. And then we like kind of jumped right into some games like trying to, I think it was like a lot of cast bonding very quickly for me and Will.

[7:19] RJ Christian: Yeah. And then we played some games and stuff, right? We all got into it. We did some of that. Did a lot of games. And then like, that was half of rehearsal, just like hanging out. Like we played stand-o, surely, right?

[7:27] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah. And then all of that before we even did rehearsals. Yeah. And you got a little bit too of the same stuff we got at the very beginning, because up until a certain point, right around actually the time Jasmine, you joined the show, you and Will did, we were having regular, because we had an extended company. I don't know if that's ever been divulged here. We were meeting like once a week, or not once a week, my apologies, once a month with the current company. And then a slew of other very talented individuals, case in point, as I said, across from one of them, who is now shares the stage with us, that we would get together. Connor came up out of it.

[7:59] Jasmine Malave: Connor came up out of it too.

[8:01] Diego F. Salinas: Will came up out of it. Yeah. Of the same stuff that we had touched on in those like first Logan and Ryan, three weeks. So there had already been like a good foundation setting.

[8:08] RJ Christian: Yeah. And I definitely like, I'm an over-preparer and I very much was like, I know what this is. These are auditions as we go along. And so very much was like any opportunity to hang out with everybody I took, any opportunity to get drinks afterwards I took, just like, I want to be a part of this. So I'm going to make sure that I'm present.

[8:29] Alex Stompoly: I'm curious for the rest of you in the room, because I know Jazz, like you were saying, you got to see it and you came and watched it a lot. I was in the audience, like 75 to 80% of previews, just because then.

[8:41] Jasmine Malave: I was sitting next to you for a lot of them.

[8:45] Alex Stompoly: Yeah. And then like, just kept going. Did anyone else like, and honestly, I think for the bar, that was probably the best way of osmosis to be able to like watch timing of the show. Cause we didn't get, when Cass and I started as the understudies, we didn't get a lot of like a stage time.

[8:57] Diego F. Salinas: We were also, the four of us were, remember, we used to be contractually obligated to see the show once a week.

[9:01] RJ Christian: That was true. They made us watch at least one a week. That's different.

[9:07] Jasmine Malave: Blessings. But did anybody else like watch it an incredible amount?

[9:12] Diego F. Salinas: I've seen the show six times.

[9:14] RJ Christian: That's so funny.

[9:15] Diego F. Salinas: But you've been in it almost 300.

[9:18] RJ Christian: I bet I've, I bet, I bet without exaggeration, I've watched the show at least 50. And I would, I wanted to say 70, but like 50 easy.

[9:30] Jasmine Malave: That sounds reasonable.

[9:31] RJ Christian: Yeah. I mean, cause a lot of the time, if I'm here and like, we're going to go out and I know we're going to go out afterwards. I'm just like, nah, I'll just go get a ticket and I'll just go talk to somebody and I'll just go, well, I'll just go watch it.

[9:43] Diego F. Salinas: For me watching the show, um, at least at the beginning, wasn't super helpful for me, at least getting over like the hump of like feeling like an idiot versus feeling like a genius. It was really just like, I want to do more of these. Um, I want to, I want to like so play this character until I have a comfortable version. And like, it, it was like October and I like had played John Paul for the first time. It was like, wow.

[10:11] RJ Christian: It really like debuting all nine of the characters took me so long.

[10:16] Diego F. Salinas: Oh, same.

[10:17] RJ Christian: And it was even like the first time Paul was like, man, that sucks. I might not be able to play his character for another three months.

[10:22] Diego F. Salinas: So for the next time it'll be good. It's, it's really crazy. Just like, cause you sort of just have to like, I don't know. I'd be in my room just sort of walking around and be like, yeah, this is dumb. No, that sucks.

[10:33] Jasmine Malave: Something is funny.

[10:38] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah. It's just like, Oh, got to work that out.

[10:41] RJ Christian: I'm excited for that to start happening to everybody. We're like, everybody's going to be like, Oh shit. I'm not, I haven't been Ethel in like four or five weeks. All right. Let me, let me, let me get back in here.

[10:51] Jasmine Malave: I still haven't done Chester.

[10:53] Diego F. Salinas: Cause I'm like, I want to see it really bad.

[10:58] RJ Christian: I don't know what it is.

[11:00] Diego F. Salinas: I mean, just, I, I would laugh really hard.

[11:02] RJ Christian: It was literally just you.

[11:04] Diego F. Salinas: No impression.

[11:05] RJ Christian: I've, I've eased into this place with Tamburlaine where it's just me holding a loot. Like there's almost indistinguishable.

[11:10] Diego F. Salinas: I played him the other night and I realized like I turned around and then Maddie was like, Tamburlaine.

[11:17] RJ Christian: And I was like, sup?

[11:19] Diego F. Salinas: I was like, Hey dog. I'm like, I just, I don't know. Just me.

[11:23] RJ Christian: I hope that like, you know, just for one, like fan service show, we just do like all warriors or three, three Chesters fucking around, you know?

[11:31] RJ Christian: Oh, Drakesters. That'll be so wild. I think to find to put a like, maybe pin on this question before we move on, I'd say rehearsal processes now are at like, they are crazy fast. And like all of our hats, I'll speak for us, go collectively off to the guests that come into the show. It's wild how like, quickly they get ready and how easily they drop in and how like, ready they are for it. They get like two rehearsals, they watch one or two shows, they get a tech and then they're on. It's like, you get, yes, there's a rehearsal to like meet people and walk through and then there's combat. And like, we block top of the show, which is the only memorized part, and then we do combat, right? We do a whole day usually where it's like, they just practice making up AB selections.

And we're like, and you get to do that for two hours. And then we tech the show. I think genuinely it's in, they get in on a Monday afternoon, they go up that Friday evening. Yeah. Thursday, usually. If they're here on Monday, Thursday then. Yeah. It's usually rehearsal Tuesday, rehearsal Wednesday, tech Thursday, and they debut Thursday. That's the standard move, which is like, again, man, if you didn't think any of these nerds were talented before, Jesus, it's nuts. What's our next question? Oh, let's see. Okay. Well, we got into this a little bit. This is, I want to know more in depth about each person's character choices. I haven't seen everyone play everyone. This is from J Ryan, excuse me.

I haven't seen everyone play everyone. And I want to know more about the characters and the differences depending on who plays him. Like, I'd love a Chester based episode. There you go. There's your Chester.

[13:12] Diego F. Salinas: I think one thing that's, I mean, we have three people who could potentially play Chester, four people who could potentially play Chester. Yeah, everybody. Right now. I don't know. I mean, like everyone brings their own flavor to it. Like my, like my Chester is different from RJ's Chester, which is different from every other Chester on this stage. I don't know. I like, you find something that works and works through your like strengths, your skill levels. Like I love like rattling off like random, like tech bro-y economic jargon. So like my Chester like sounds really dumb, but sometimes pontificates eloquently about different types of things in society. Diversifying the portfolio. And my Chester is very much a like spirituality bro, who like is like trying to like use crystals to calm down so that he doesn't pop off and kill everyone.

And my Chester has an IQ of one. Like his soul is just like, dude, what? I don't know what that is, but it sounds fun. And just like sees the world is just like a child. And sometimes he's an asshole, but like he's stupid. So you forgive him. I haven't been able to figure out what I want to do for Chester for sure yet, which is why I haven't done him yet. But what I'm working with currently is if I do do a Chester, it'll be, I did. If I, if I do do a Chester, I want to do it as the hockey bros from Letterkenny.

[14:39] RJ Christian: Yeah. Please, please just be short.

[14:45] Diego F. Salinas: I did one rehearsal as a short of Chester. It's I just like didn't have the accent. I couldn't be Canadian for just like this the whole fucking time. Listen, BBG, the big problem is that I was humping your mom all last night. You know, you just got smitten with a freaking...

[15:06] RJ Christian: As someone who gets to watch all of them because you don't start doing that. I'm going to do really should really should. But if somebody gets to watch all of them and has seen even now guest stars come in and play these characters that I thought I intimately knew, the nice thing about the way characters are built here at TST is they are specifically vague enough, right?

[15:28] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah, they are. So what does bro mean to you?

[15:35] RJ Christian: Exactly, exactly. We give you a little bit of a hook that initial paragraph that even the audience is, you know, participating in here and kind of, quote unquote, for the first time, and then it's off the races. So each one of them is so personal and so beautifully different depending on the actor who takes over. And we're one of the very few shows, honestly, in existence that is seeing that happen regularly in real time. Normally you wait and you see like, oh, who is this? What is this? Oh, how tight is going to be? Mary Todd Lincoln.

[16:04] Diego F. Salinas: Exactly. What is what is Orville Peck's emcee going to be opposite the last one we saw? And then you have to live with it for you're like, okay, great. That's a lovely like six month stint. What's the next one? We're here. We're literally going, what does Tuesday's Chester? Monday's Chester. And it's really exciting. And there's such a freedom. Our directorial team, Michael's phenomenal at letting us bring those personal touches. And we are not beholden to a very like rigid idea of what these characters should be. And that's brilliant. It can be Tuesday's Chester and Wednesday's Chester being different. Well, it couldn't be Wednesday's. Wednesday, it could be Tuesday or Wednesday in December's Chester.

[16:43] RJ Christian: It's a Wednesday in December's chance of happening.

[16:47] Diego F. Salinas: It could be the same actor, as I was going to say. And like, you could just like, take a wildly different swing and just be like, you know, especially with the guests, because sometimes they do a thing and literally are just like, yeah, I mean, Dev the other night came off and was like, I hated myself by the end of the night because I was being like, a like, influencer.

[17:08] RJ Christian: Yeah, yeah. Well, and also to like, again, the privilege of the bar is getting to watch you all experiment and take such big, courageous like swings and also to decide to change your archetype mid-run. I'm throwing it back a little bit. I know everyone has done it. I apologize. This is one that's sticking out most vividly. But Diego, your Tamburlaine, you did one way for a good chunk of debut until a point. And then one day you had decided because you had workshopped it going in a very different direction. And that's been the one that I think has sustained like the longest of the switch. But it's brilliant because what other production can you have, like, lived in it and the whole team supports you and going, yeah, if you feel it differently, go for it. We'll follow you.

[18:03] Diego F. Salinas: I think it's great. I remember Tamburlaine was early on when I started out as the trickster for the run over the summer and in the spring. I Tamburlaine was the one I was most afraid of because I'm like not like a singer, like not in the way that like the character sheet on Tamburlaine suggests I could be. So I was like, damn, like, I don't feel like I can deliver on this. So like for a lot of the first half of the summer, I was playing a lot with like, kind of like jokey little songs. I was doing a little bit of haikus, a couple of like poetry type of things to kind of like be deliver on the musicality without having to be musical. So eventually halfway through the summer, I was like, I don't want to do this. Like, let me like lean on my strengths. I can be like, I turned him into this kind of film and theater styles, like different genres of like this, like character.

[18:44] RJ Christian: The telenovela shit that you started was so good.

[18:47] Diego F. Salinas: I discovered the telenovela shit with like the original like singing Tamburlaine. And then that was kind of the gateway entry point into being like, oh, like, let me flavor just like maybe one action that he takes is flavored like a film noir detective. Maybe another is like a telenovela romance. And then another is like a Shakespearean type of like, like, like stalwart character. And that gave me that let me access a wider range of my tool set that I felt comfortable with, and allowed me to feel like I was finally fully delivering on that character.

[19:20] RJ Christian: And one day there will be musical instruments on stage that are playable. So RJ and I can finally fulfill the promise.

[19:26] Diego F. Salinas: Listen, if I had my own little TK world, I'd have a little MIDI keyboard back there and just do a bunch of background music like that. I'm setting that up.

[19:37] RJ Christian: That would be so good.

[19:38] Diego F. Salinas: Bring your melodica on stage.

[19:41] RJ Christian: Yeah, do it.

[19:43] Diego F. Salinas: We're literally looking at a piano right now.

[19:45] RJ Christian: Girl, don't plug that into any outlet near what I am running on that stage.

[19:49] Diego F. Salinas: We're going to overheat right quick.

[19:51] RJ Christian: I break things without touching them. If I plug that in, I've done so.

[19:55] Diego F. Salinas: Somehow that keyboard requires Wi-Fi. I can't figure it out.

[19:59] RJ Christian: I didn't do anything.

[20:00] Diego F. Salinas: Oh my god, programming gameiotic so you could just play it on the piano.

[20:03] RJ Christian: It's your chord.

[20:06] Diego F. Salinas: A B election tricksters is actually a G major chord.

[20:10] RJ Christian: I want there's like, there's a pocket bard collab or something else where like, I just want I want full more more control for the TK. Like just you playing all the like, background sounds and everything too would be so rowdy and so hard. But man, it would be really fun to be able to just like, do whatever you want back there. Speaking of things on stage.

[20:36] RJ Christian: This one says having an episode where you just explore the set and tell stories about your favorite props could be fun. That's nobody on Discord. That's their handle is nobody.

[20:45] Diego F. Salinas: So yeah, favorite props. I think favorite props is a great, great.

[20:50] RJ Christian: Yeah. What's your favorite prop?

[20:52] Diego F. Salinas: I feel like I have my prop horror stories. Like there was like the the freaking curtain rod.

[20:58] RJ Christian: Oh, yeah.

[20:59] Diego F. Salinas: And then I was like, I'm gonna use just like it's like a sword. I'm gonna swing it up. And I swung it up. And the part that detached from the other part, and it flew into the front row. You knocked the whole damn DM screen over a couple weeks.

[21:13] RJ Christian: None of you are actually built gentle.

[21:17] Diego F. Salinas: There was that one night we smashed a bunch of like cups on stage because we were like, I think we were like the spice vendors war and it was like, who's a chill like NPC that night? We were like, there's a terror coming. Be careful. Be calm about it. What are you doing? Why aren't you freaking out? And then we got a note for that afterwards. I think one of my favorite one of my favorite props right now, I'm really enjoying the oven mitts because we've been able to use them as like heads as like mage hands. I'm always they turn into claws. They're very versatile. I'm a sucker for like making a puppet on stage like so I just love like anytime like I DM for the first time this past Sunday, the BBG was a whiny self loading Roomba. And I put a stool and then a shield on top of that and then a bucket on top of that and then an orange wig and a set of horns. And that was like our evil Roomba that Jasmine managed to perch on for like five minutes.

[22:18] Jasmine Malave: My favorite thing is if we have any sort of little creature that we feel like protective over, instead of just pretending we have the creature, I go find something and that's my favorite thing to do. Like the owlbear show and actually grabbing the owlbear stuffed animal off of the shelf when it hatched out of the egg so that like it was it was such a fun it was such a fun day. And then Jack, I think was going to kill the owlbear was like his intention. He told me afterwards because he didn't really care was a fake egg. But once I gave him the stuffed animal, he was like, I can't do it. I can't do it anymore. Like we have an actual realized object and now we have to protect it. I love having the little object that also the room will just go bonk.

[23:03] RJ Christian: Yeah, the second you take that like looted item and it's like a thing, yeah, yeah. I also love when people get really creative with the dice cameras. Like it doesn't happen super often, but it'll be like, oh, the bit is like a written note and it's like the bit's funny, and then they put it down and what they wrote was really stupid. And it's like, like Maddy's done that with like, oh, we got a coupon and it's like, you give us free shit written on it. You know damn well that it says hot ones drink for free. That's what it was. Don't pretend like you don't know one of the 12 sayings the Maddy doll comes with. Now with kung fu grip. It is, it is absolutely meow hello the hot people. Sucks to suck nerd. Deception. 45. And with that. And with that. And what you don't know is. For max damage.

[24:08] Diego F. Salinas: Could somebody call Maddy up and ask her how she's doing under the bus?

[24:13] RJ Christian: So we just chucked her ass? Her ears are on fire right now.

[24:18] Jasmine Malave: Well, I mean everybody. I just called out sick. Everybody must have their, uh, their like DM, like there's a compilation video of me calling up several for like, it's like my love, my love, my love to the point during Connor's first video. Connor had a rehearsal the other day and he, I was sitting in the audience and he went, my love, and immediately our director Michael fell turned on and goes, hey, that's you, that's your line.

[24:37] RJ Christian: So, or BB BB. I like when we make a severed limb on stage. I'm a big fan of, there was one time when like somebody's shoes came off and then we made a leg and I think Maddy walked around with this like fake leg that we had made tucked into her belt for like the whole show. I think it was Connor's. It was Connor's shoe that we had gotten somehow. I absolutely think at this point we had taken the sleeves off of it. It was a sleeve and I got it and I made like a leg that we cut off of it and came into the wizard's house. Yeah, it was very good. We dragged it around and like did stuff with it and I think somebody, I think we eventually like catapulted it.

[25:26] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah, it was rowdy. The drowned corpse episode where we ate some of the corpse later.

[25:32] Jasmine Malave: Yes, I was gonna say I think prop wise for me and where I sit, I mean like, you know, okay, I have my frogs. If you saw the, we have 70 shows left announced that you're familiar with them. You used two wigs as pom poms the other night and I laughed my ass off and then Diego also used them, made the same two to make dust bunnies that got sucked up into them. Every time you guys do that, I think they're tribbles. I'm like, they look like little tribbles.

[25:58] RJ Christian: Yeah, but I really, I fell in love with my soundboard as like, as like not extensive as it is and kind of like, oh my god, the exploding Roomba dude. Well, the beauty of, uh, like again, like of improv, like when you put a boundary on something, you can find comedy comes a little bit easier having like just like maybe like a solid 14 things that I have to use over and over for like things in this world super fun.

[26:18] Jasmine Malave: The night that they skinned the thing and every time anyone moved the skin, I hit the horrible blort button. Aabria was so mad at me. So funny. When we had, uh, Mel's minute meteors turn into a gatling gun for Ethel.

[26:32] Diego F. Salinas: Oh good shit. Oh that was, oh man. I gave myself a bruise flopping around like that. It was so good. Because I had to flop on my stomach because my mic's from the small of my back so if I'd done it that way, I've been driving, you know, too very fast so I was like blah blah blah blah.

[26:46] RJ Christian: Something I've been, I played with like at the end of one show as a TK and I want to give this because I think it can be perfected is like also using the T or the DM soundboard so I'm like, okay, I got two pages lined up, I'm about to go just like a keyboarder player playing two instruments.

[27:03] Jasmine Malave: I see you, that's how do you think I get those divine smites to look like they do with both?

[27:08] RJ Christian: Oh my god. I'm getting quicker going back and forth with like one but I do will genuinely like lean over and like I will be able to like hit big and like go both at the same time. It's so because also like, oh, I slice you and then I burn you, it's like okay, I gotta, we can't, gotta have both but can't press all the buttons.

[27:24] Diego F. Salinas: No, that stuff was fun. What you got babes?

[27:30] Jasmine Malave: Okay, for those of you who play multiple player tracks, which is damn near most of us, have you ever had a moment when you're introducing characters and you almost say the wrong color?

[27:35] RJ Christian: All at the same time?

[27:42] Jasmine Malave: Yes! Also, I just know while we're throwing people on the bus.

[27:46] RJ Christian: Oh, I'll do it myself. I'll do it myself. My favorite.

[27:50] Jasmine Malave: Oh, I wasn't gonna get you.

[27:50] Jasmine Malave: I'll get you. My favorite is what I walked in the other day and I looked at Diego and I was like, hey buddy, pretty sure you're playing green tonight and he had his whole red outfit on and was just like, he just goes, he's done it like four times during guests, he's being damn it. I was ready to like go get into Mike and have to go and change again.

[27:55] RJ Christian: Oh, I thought you were looking at me and I knew.

[28:06] RJ Christian: Wait Jasmine, what's yours?

[28:11] Jasmine Malave: Oh, I, uh, when I'm blue, I go out and say hello my beautiful mystical spell casters.

[28:16] RJ Christian: Oh yeah.

[28:16] Jasmine Malave: And then I do my little thing and I was in red and I went down, I went hello my beautiful, nope, and I literally said nope.

[28:25] RJ Christian: When I counted three, we're gonna warrior cry.

[28:30] Diego F. Salinas: That's so funny.

[28:36] Jasmine Malave: See this several times but you know when I'm in red I'm like, oh warriors! I've been like whoa tricksters!

[28:47] RJ Christian: We had an onboarding the other night when it was all swings and I think Diego or no, no it was Travis. It was all swings and Travis and it was, it was the onboarding was like literally we hadn't quite locked in enough and we, it was just like people looking at each other like who's fucking saying what.

[29:05] Jasmine Malave: Whose line is this?

[29:10] RJ Christian: We've all said all of them. We were jumping all over each other and like it was, but and everything got said but it was like, I want to say it was like you'd taken the script and just like shaking it up and like dumped it out and we were just grabbing lines.

[29:19] Diego F. Salinas: That happened a couple weeks ago when we had done like just a big mix-up night and Connor and I were, Connor was DMing, I was TKing respectively and Jasmine was warrior, Diego had gone back to trickster and Matty went spellcaster and genuinely everyone looking at each other going like we've all been here before but could not tell you what is supposed to happen now like looking at each other like Diego went down to get someone or no I went, I went off stage to go get the decider and then I left to go get the decider because I was like I don't know what's happening.

[29:40] Jasmine Malave: Matty had to go out and get the person, get the person which led Connor to saying like okay who Matty, who's our friend here and Matty giving the name and then Connor going in his line going well now I'd like to introduce you to our friend Matty and I'm going which you just met like it was Diego so funny walking back all the way on stage across stage like with both of his arms down like a child going to his room which is like no no no no no no.

[30:10] RJ Christian: I just sat there like, like Matty said the rest of my trickster lines for the onboarding because I was like I forgot everything I needed to do for this.

[30:15] Jasmine Malave: It's for me it's amazing, it's like where I am on the stage like it's just like as soon as I am like do I know these things and then I like put myself into like the spot where the trickster lines come out of and it's like a like a, you know, it's like there are magnets in my shoes and like a magnets of the floor, it's like yeah once I'm here I just open my mouth and I'm like tonight that fourth wall has been shattered and the fate of the star rape.

[30:40] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah, see I just forget what characters I have that I'm really bad. I'll, I think it's happened like five or six times I'd be like I'll be a this guy, this guy and uh, so I got you tiny tyrant the walls will lose green it's your choice, it's real, it's real bad.

[31:02] RJ Christian: I just blink.

[31:09] Diego F. Salinas: No, this one's kind of maybe insider baseball but it's from yet another Chris and it's how'd you guys actually come up with the characters seeing as they're not bard, warlock and just trickster, fighter, spellcaster, what was the process of actually working that out?

[31:20] RJ Christian: I'm not a hundred percent sure what this question, I think I think I can, I can kind of get to the heart of that one quickly. I think it's just like kind of archetypes, right?

[31:25] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah.

[31:30] RJ Christian: Like it's not about like these are all the martial classes and these are all the spellcasting classes and these are all the fuck you classes, it's about like the archetype of the warrior is meant to be like a type of character that can charge boldly forward like at the very least who is action oriented.

[31:46] Diego F. Salinas: Um, it's also very loose guidelines because as we all like have played together more and more often like those boundaries have worn away until they're kind of just like loose like brackish, yeah like venn diagrams.

[31:56] RJ Christian: Um, I say I think it just goes down to the way the character is built because we have artificers who are spellcasters, we have artificers who are tricksters, there's no reason there can be an artificer warrior, it's just about like what's the character concept there.

[32:12] Diego F. Salinas: It's like a very like charging forward artificer, yeah like a Tony Stark type of thing.

[32:16] RJ Christian: And I think too you really hit on a deal he is an artificer for sure. I think there is a version of this show where that held a lot more temenos to it of like why, why the classification of like warrior to spellcaster to trickster was really differentiated and as we've, as the show has grown and as art will always continue to shift and kind of find its footing and as it just evolves because that's what it does and the show is constantly in flux and the people who come to it bring something different we no longer need to like to have the formula of warrior leads spellcaster, you know, volleys trickster spikes it.

[32:56] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah, it is a, it's a great thing to have somewhere but it is not pertinent because there have been several successful shows where the spellcaster is the holding of a singular brain cell, yeah for the show and the warrior is happy to just hear the rattling of that brain cell and the trickster stole the jar to put it in, you know.

[33:10] RJ Christian: Yeah, it used to be, I think there used to be some pirate robot ninja to it of like y'all, yeah the classic probably. I think it was like eventually originally the thought was that it was like yeah the warrior was more robot and the spellcaster was more ninja and the trickster was more pirate but like which is a fabulous tool when you're first coming together when you're putting something together and yeah when you're getting to know each other but yeah now god we're, we're so all, I mean hell at this point there used to be rules of like hey let's make sure you're not going behind the bar if you're anyone and now like everybody, it's just everybody knows to run back there and hit sounds or grab wigs or whatever and it's great.

[34:02] Diego F. Salinas: I'll say for my money right, I think I still hold on to a little bit of that because I, I think during the fall when we had gotten more comfortable I was like okay play all these tracks, I I wonder what the difference is between them but I really think there is a sort of, you know, the I forget what old theater person is talking about this but like, you know, the spellcaster leaves from the head and the warrior leaves from the heart and the trickster leaves from the groin and I think that like you can no matter what you these characters sound like or look like you can be like okay Chester's an idiot today but he's still like he has a heart of gold and he wants to save the day or it's like, you know, Leighton Gortiger is trying to like.

[35:36] Diego F. Salinas: Right on top of a community garden. I just came from Target and boy is my DEI tired. All right, this is a good one for us to go around the horn and take your home on. If you could make your own PC for each of the tracks you play, what would they be like? I don't like I think I'm going to refine that from Elizabeth on Discord. If you could make your own PC that was yours. Just like it doesn't matter the like the warrior spellcaster or trickster or wherever they'd go. I think if you could just have a character that was just your idiot to play, what would you do? I was just watching a YouTube video about like the leper Templar Knights. This was like an order of Templar Knights who were all stricken with leprosy.

And they would all like charge into the field of battle like wearing like green like uniforms and shit and would fight with like reckless abandon because he like they're like their arms are falling off. Yeah, because their limbs are falling off like they're already like gonna die. So I'd love to do like a kind of like a fungal Lord paladin like some dude who's like rotting like decomposing like sickened and afflicted but still has this like Quixote-esque nobility about him. I know we already got another paladin but I think that character concept's easy. Trademark Diego Salinas.

[37:02] RJ Christian: Yeah, no, this is I would like to say right now that these are all ours still we're not we're not giving anything away. No, no, no, not unless it goes into the company drive.

[37:06] Jasmine Malave: Oh, yeah.

[37:09] Diego F. Salinas: I want to share the one of my rejected characters that was rejected for which is no longer in the company. No longer. So we got we got some questions about rejected PC characters as well. So um, but this, this guy was a circle sports druid, who his whole thing is that he was working the pipes underwater deep. And he discovered some mushrooms that gave him magical powers. And his name was Marty. Oh, and Marty. Oh, was rejected for some reason. I can't I don't know why you're in the room, Cam. Listen, damn, dude.

[37:42] RJ Christian: Listen, all I'm saying is be it'd be funny as hell to be like, yeah, let's let's do this. Mama. Holy shit. You know, please, like, please let the audience at home know the drawing that came a company just got it was a really good drawing. It was a very good drawing. He had a Mario hammer. Mario is also like and had pills. He's had several professions. It's a game called Dr. Mario. I will see you in court, sir. He looked it was like a perfect caricature of Bob Hoskins, dude. Yeah, it was which by the way, the estate has filed a lawsuit, you need to go and get your Tesla and drive to the courthouse.

[38:25] Diego F. Salinas: He's just gonna buy his way out of it. I'll be fine. I'm gonna automate it. So I just crash before I get there.

[38:31] Jasmine Malave: Jazz, what about you, babe?

[38:32] Jasmine Malave: I mean, I don't even know. I don't have characters that I feel like super strongly about like that. Um, I feel like you need a character that wears a power suit.

[38:41] Diego F. Salinas: Like, thank you. I'm wearing a power suit right now. That's why he said that. Uh, I, I have a character, my character that I play in real life, I love a lot. And I feel like it's kind of just me. It's a little grung rogue. In my real life game, a little frog rogue. And she's an Inquisitor rogue. So she's like an intelligence rogue. And she's always just trying to solve the mysteries. But I rolled poorly when making the stats. So I think like she has this idea of being very good at things. And she plays like Mr. Bean. It's just like a bumbling a little bit of a bumbling idiot. And she's literally two and a half feet tall. Like, it's a silly, dumb, goofy.

[39:19] Diego F. Salinas: She have feats. Did you give her luck?

[39:23] Jasmine Malave: Oh, no, she doesn't have that. I love I love building a like goober and giving them like luck. And yes, no, she's just like, she's very, very good at some rogue stuff. But then I also gave her the entertainer feat. So I play my ukulele in my campaign. Sometimes we go to like, we'll go to inns and we get to stay there for free. So like, that's like kind of the vibe is like this doesn't make sense. This is not optimized. But I'm having a lovely time.

[39:46] Diego F. Salinas: I love that you stuck with it too, man. That's what I love playing playing a not super maxed character is really, really fun. I love it. I'm gonna do the same thing that the RJ did. I would like to play my idea when we're doing character workshops was just the character's name was fluffy. And he was just a he was just a dog that was raised by humans. To the point where and he loved all of his humans so hard that it turned him into a paladin. He was a common man paladin and he like didn't know that he was magical. But he just like by his presence just inspired and buffed everybody and I think that would be a very fun energy to play on stage. But we also realized that every once in a while we would have to kill a dog in front of a bunch of people and we didn't want to.

[40:40] RJ Christian: It's really hard to constantly doing d&d TST presents Marley and me.

[40:43] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah.

[40:45] RJ Christian: 20 sided fern grows.

[40:49] Diego F. Salinas: He's my dog, Paul. I'll do it.

[40:52] RJ Christian: Old yeller tavern.

[40:55] Diego F. Salinas: Curious yeller.

[40:59] Jasmine Malave: What is that? What is that thing? I'm so curious.

[41:04] RJ Christian: That sandwich.

[41:09] Diego F. Salinas: You get him down the street.

[41:11] RJ Christian: And well met.

[41:24] Diego F. Salinas: How's your mom?

[41:26] RJ Christian: God, I knew she was saying she's sick.

[41:32] Alex Stompoly: Stomp a PC.

[41:34] Alex Stompoly: Um, stop waiting patiently for everyone to be fucking done.

[41:39] Diego F. Salinas: No, I see you.

[41:42] Alex Stompoly: That started in April of 2024.

[41:47] Alex Stompoly: Some say I'm still waiting. No, um, truthfully, so it's really I'm probably the one in the room right now with like the least table d&d experience. Sure. And I'm probably also the one who explores variety the least. I'm always a warlock. I am always morally over it. But also on board. It's almost like that reform villain. Like you catch my character kind of they're no longer a bad guy, but they haven't subscribed to being good. So it is true. Neutral in any circumstance. And I fucking love I love fucking with a warlock. And we don't we do we have we don't have one.

[42:25] Diego F. Salinas: No, we they're trying to bring one and then we're trying to get some back.

[42:29] Alex Stompoly: We are trying to bring one. Well, we'll see. Stay tuned.

[42:34] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah, I can't talk about.

[42:34] Alex Stompoly: Yeah, but yeah, I would love like, I think they're in the cast drive. They're on the cast drive.

[42:40] Diego F. Salinas: Well, I will say it's Oh, God, that's so funny. I think one then that if I can talk about things that were in the cast drive, this is the one that I probably the flesh out the most most recently, aside from I just want to be like, queer warrior. I mean, queer warlock who's just there. And of course, it's an elf. I think the last time I played at the table, it was also Shadowfell because I like a little bit of that. Yeah, Ravens Queen energy of like an unaligned patron just to be there. But I did I did create one. A lot of create fully but a lot of coloration over Lisa Vanderpump. Not yet. Again, where are we at? Gay?

[43:18] RJ Christian: We'll get I also did a reskin just of a bard as like the idea of like Andy Cohen.

[43:22] Alex Stompoly: And him having just like, just being of like the Bravo universe and hailing from that and like, just causing absolute chaos. But that's what I mean. That's but that's I'm such a pop culture girly. This will change with the wind when something new catch my eye like let's face the character. I do a new thing.

[43:39] Diego F. Salinas: Yeah, new thing. The new hyper fixation is dropped. Let's go.

[43:45] RJ Christian: What is it right now? This really did just get switched up again. Oh, well, I don't know. I did get through all of Kathy Bates's Matlock really quickly.

[43:53] Alex Stompoly: You want to be a college of words? Bard? What is it? Is it words?

[44:03] RJ Christian: Are you kidding? The party? How fun would it be though to bring a lawyer like I'll have a lawyer character in the D&D party every time they get into like, like super high charisma and actually just have like an actual legal representative be there with you all and be like, wait, hold on. I mean, ladies and gentlemen of the audience.

[44:18] Diego F. Salinas: Or you play it is the like Benicio del Toro in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas level lawyer.

[44:23] RJ Christian: Oh, he's like fucking insane. I also what he is a lawyer like a little Annalise Keating like how to get away with murder like I can dubiously get you through this but we're not gonna like it as your lawyer I have to recommend and then it's like yeah, we're having some fun shit.

[44:39] Diego F. Salinas: I'd be slipping Jimmy all the time.

[44:41] RJ Christian: What are you slipping?

[44:45] Diego F. Salinas: To Saul Goodman, attorney at law.

[44:47] RJ Christian: RJ's out here just on the podcast slipping his Jimmy.

[45:01] Diego F. Salinas: RJ, put your Jimmy away and get back in your Tesla.

[45:04] RJ Christian: Why are you yelling? Why are you so curious?

[45:05] Diego F. Salinas: Haven't introduced me to Jimmy yet.

[45:11] RJ Christian: Friends in the grand tradition of ale and well met. It is 5:54 p.m. and we have got to go do a show. So thank you so much for listening as always. Hey, if you're enjoying the show, tell people about it and leave us stars and leave us reviews. Help us out. Let's let the people know. Other than that, until next time.

[45:27] Diego F. Salinas: Hey, is that somebody yelling ale?

[45:31] RJ Christian: Oh, and well met.

[45:33] Diego F. Salinas: And well, and well, I'm here.

[45:35] RJ Christian: Couldn't help but hear I'm a little curious what y'all talking about.

[45:44] Diego F. Salinas: Where can I listen to it?

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