It’s time for a Movie Club Classic! Relive our deep dive into all of your favorite movies. A whole new episode! Play along as Aaron J Albano (Newsies, Hamilton) and Hayley Podschun (Chaplin, Hello, Dolly) join Bryan, Kevin, and Kimberly via video chat for Tanteo tequila, breaking down the Aladdin Universe, bad puns, and tons of wine... Read More
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It’s time for a Movie Club Classic! Relive our deep dive into all of your favorite movies.
A whole new episode!
Play along as Aaron J Albano (Newsies, Hamilton) and Hayley Podschun (Chaplin, Hello, Dolly) join Bryan, Kevin, and Kimberly via video chat for Tanteo tequila, breaking down the Aladdin Universe, bad puns, and tons of wine.
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[0:00] Bryan Polovsky: Hi, Brian here.
[0:01] Kevin Jaeger: Kevin here.
[0:03] Kimberly Cooper: Kimberly here.
[0:06] Bryan Polovsky: We know that you're stuck inside, like we are stuck inside. So what we've been doing is we've been doing some video chats with uh the three of us. And sometimes we have a special friend join us.
[0:19] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[0:20] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.
[0:20] Bryan Polovsky: So we are gonna be putting out some additional content for you guys to uh help you get through this quarantiney time. Um so we are doing the same kind of Broadwaysted fun, focusing on a couple different things. Really, we're just kind of going through some like old catalogs of things that we can watch since we desperately miss Broadway. So we're trying to find ways to bring more Broadway to you guys and to share with all of us. And we're really trying to watch things that you can access in your own homes through things like Disney Plus, Netflix, YouTube, uh Hulu.
[0:52] Kevin Jaeger: Let's name some other functions.
[0:55] Bryan Polovsky: Um YouTube TV. Um we're gonna watch Twitch stuff. That's fun.
[1:02] Kevin Jaeger: No, no, no, no, no.
[1:05] Bryan Polovsky: Um, but yeah, what we're gonna do is we're gonna actually put the videos, the full extended videos onto our Patreon account. So you can find that at patreon.com backslash broadwasted. Those are gonna be, I love that. Um those are gonna be in our lowest tier um if you wanted to see the full. But uh what we're also gonna do is we're gonna edit down that uh long, long episode into something a little bit more like a Broadwaysted episode for you here free on the podcast feed.
[1:33] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[1:34] Bryan Polovsky: So you'll be able to get that by going to anywhere you listen to a podcast. Uh you're already listening to us now, so you've already found it. But um gotcha. You can continue to find it on iTunes on Spotify.
[1:44] Kimberly Cooper: Well, on that note, thank you so much for listening to us. We always appreciate it. You can find us on Patreon, you can find us right here, but now for your regularly scheduled Broadwaysted.
[1:53] Kevin Jaeger: Woo-hoo, that's us.
[1:54] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.
[2:01] Bryan Polovsky: Did you bring wine?
[2:02] Kevin Jaeger: I got the glasses.
[2:03] Kimberly Cooper: You guys I made a quiz.
[2:05] Bryan Polovsky: No, I didn't bring anything, but I'm here to have a bug.
[2:17] Bryan Polovsky: Hello, and welcome to the official Broadwaysted podcast. We're drunk, I'm drunk, I'm theater. We're drunk on theater. I'm your host, Brian Polovsky, and there's a party here in Agrabah. We're one jump ahead of Prince Ali who came out of thin air. With a friend like me, I'm looking out for me. So forget about love because you're only second rate. I want to say, welcome to the 40 Thieves, but with the Arabian Knights coming, it's a whole new world. Joining us today, the usual speechless father and sons were proud of your boy, including Kevin.
[2:47] Bryan Polovsky: Are you in or out, Jager?
[2:53] Kevin Jaeger: Not the one that I would have chosen for myself, but I mean I'm out, so that's fine.
[2:56] Bryan Polovsky: Kimberly, our Prince Ali reprise game master and unofficial babysitter for the...
[3:02] Kimberly Cooper: I like a reprise.
[3:03] Bryan Polovsky: You say reprise and not reprise.
[3:05] Kimberly Cooper: No, I just said it fancy that way.
[3:07] Bryan Polovsky: Oh, okay. Got it.
[3:08] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.
[3:09] Bryan Polovsky: Um, honestly, I have no consistency in how I say it. It really depends on how I think it sounds with the words before.
[3:19] Kevin Jaeger: Wait, I think I know the rule, but we can talk about that later.
[3:21] Kimberly Cooper: There is a rule.
[3:22] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[3:23] Bryan Polovsky: What's the rule?
[3:25] Kevin Jaeger: If you if if you're using it as a verb, like he reprised something, it's reprise. But if it's a noun, then it's reprieve. Like he's enjoying a reprieve. He is reprising that song later.
[3:38] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, good God.
[3:39] Bryan Polovsky: No. I don't even know if it's a noun or a bird R. I was like, is that a thing they tell you once you've been on Broadway? Is that like a script? They let you guys know.
[3:48] Kevin Jaeger: Wouldn't know. If that's what they teach you in college, I really wouldn't know it.
[3:53] Bryan Polovsky: Um and with us today, as you can hear and see, um, are our returning guests from last week's trip to uh 17 Cherry Tree Lane. They're now journeying with us to Agrabah. Let's give a big Broadway wave welcome to Friends of the Show.
[4:03] Kimberly Cooper: Friends of the show.
[4:07] Bryan Polovsky: Hayley Podshun and Aaron J. Albano.
[4:17] Hayley Podshun: We're happy to have you again.
[4:20] Aaron J Albano: Thanks for having us.
[4:21] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, of course. Well very excited to be here. As we all know, last week we watched Mary Poppins. This week we decided to enter the universe of Aladdin, and there is a lot to talk about. Um so I think we should just uh let's let's get started.
[4:39] Bryan Polovsky: But first, as we always do, what are you drinking?
[4:39] Kevin Jaeger: What are you drinking?
[4:46] Bryan Polovsky: Aaron, what are you drinking?
[4:48] Aaron J Albano: I took a break from the Three Thieves wine this week because I thought it changed. This is the episode to drink the thief.
[4:56] Bryan Polovsky: Oh man, oh okay. Well, you know. Um I am drinking a concoction of my own. Tequila and uh Patron tequila and San Pellegrino Aranciata Rosa.
[5:13] Kimberly Cooper: Ooh, yeah.
[5:16] Aaron J Albano: That's cool.
[5:17] Kimberly Cooper: Um, of a drink. I love it. It's great.
[5:20] Kimberly Cooper: Uh, Kimberly.
[5:22] Kimberly Cooper: I have wine with a little bicycle on it.
[5:27] Aaron J Albano: Oh.
[5:28] Kimberly Cooper: It is DH Elliott, a BX blend.
[5:33] Aaron J Albano: I don't know.
[5:33] Kimberly Cooper: A BMX blend.
[5:36] Aaron J Albano: Is that a blend that's made in the Bronx?
[5:39] Kimberly Cooper: Also, you know that wine is good when it has a mode of transportation on the label.
[5:45] Kevin Jaeger: Agreed.
[5:46] Bryan Polovsky: What?
[5:48] Kevin Jaeger: Um, Kevin, what are you drinking?
[5:50] Kevin Jaeger: I am drinking uh Columbia Crest Merlot because my dad told it, told me that it was on wine spectator's list, so I bought it.
[5:58] Aaron J Albano: I like the label, how it actually looks like a crest.
[6:01] Kevin Jaeger: It does. It's like super fan.
[6:03] Bryan Polovsky: That's nice.
[6:05] Hayley Podshun: I'm drinking my normal rosé.
[6:09] Bryan Polovsky: Sure.
[6:11] Kevin Jaeger: For the record, Hayley, you look super cute with the Rosie the Riveter look.
[6:15] Hayley Podshun: I don't think so.
[6:16] Kevin Jaeger: I think you mean Rose the Riveter.
[6:18] Hayley Podshun: Rose the Rivera.
[6:21] Bryan Polovsky: Well done.
[6:22] Kimberly Cooper: And also Bravo, bravo. Kimberly, your hair is especially vibrant. Do you want to tell us why?
[6:28] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, I dyed it pink.
[6:31] Bryan Polovsky: You can't really tell.
[6:33] Kimberly Cooper: If you dangle it in front of your your white white skin, you can there it is. You can see it.
[6:40] Bryan Polovsky: My paleness helps.
[6:42] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[6:43] Bryan Polovsky: Oh, Kimberly, I sympathize. And then I am drinking uh Tanteo Tequila. Um, but this time it is on the rocks in a cup, not in my tea.
[6:56] Kevin Jaeger: Brian, that's a Broadway World Cup or a Broadway Con cup.
[7:00] Bryan Polovsky: Yeah, this is the Wild Bill's old-fashioned soda pop I got from BroadwayCon.
[7:04] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[7:04] Bryan Polovsky: That's cool.
[7:06] Kevin Jaeger: Hey, what is that?
[7:07] Bryan Polovsky: It was a it was it's a soda pop booth that they said that they set up at a lot of conferences. I saw it in a Comic Con as well, where you buy the cup. They fill it, they have like 12 different types of sodas like cream and root beer.
[7:22] Kimberly Cooper: Disneyland, yeah.
[7:24] Bryan Polovsky: Well, perfect timing because we're talking Aladdin. Now we watched um we watched uh Aladdin from 1992, the original animated. We watched Return of Jafar, uh, which was the direct to video from uh 1994. Then we watched uh Aladdin and the King of Thieves again, also a direct to video um that is from '96. And then we will and then we watched the uh the new live action one. For those of you watching this on Patreon, we're gonna talk about it here. For those of you on the podcast, listening to it for free in our um podcast feed. Um, you'll go to uh you have to go to Patreon to listen to our conversation of the um the Will Smith live action uh uh don't call it the Will Smith live action.
[8:14] Kevin Jaeger: You're right.
[8:15] Bryan Polovsky: What would you call it, Kevin?
[8:17] Kevin Jaeger: It's the guy, it's the Guy Ritchie live action movie.
[8:22] Bryan Polovsky: Listen, at least it had personality. Beautiful costumes. Anyway, let's start with everyone's relationship with um we'll talk about the three animated ones. Um let's talk, let's start with everyone's relationship with it. Um I'll begin long story short, we all I saw Aladdin in theaters. I remember seeing it. I vividly remember seeing it. I remember it being like the greatest thing I've ever seen as a little kid. It was amazing. I still love it. It's it's I think it's my favorite Disney animated from that time period.
[8:52] Kevin Jaeger: Wow.
[8:53] Bryan Polovsky: Absolutely. That's like a deep that's like an intense thing to say. Well, I also like think I'm it's 1992. Why is the higher age? I'm I'm a little boy, I'm watching this Aladdin adventure. It's the genie, I love Robin Williams. It all just like the songs are great, it all came together. But I 100% remember watching or my mom buying Return of Jafar. Um I watched every single episode of the animated series, and I actually weirdly I didn't remember any of the songs, but I vividly remembered King of Thieves when I watched it again this time, which is crazy.
[9:28] Kevin Jaeger: Okay, yeah.
[9:28] Bryan Polovsky: So that's my relationship. Um I I'll go next. I loved Aladdin. I like I remember watching it. I think I watched it in the theaters. Um it was at the same time, it was it was Aladdin and Newsies were my two like big like like monumentous movie musicals that like made me want to do this. It was like Oh, sit in an apartment alone.
[9:51] Kevin Jaeger: Yes, exactly.
[9:55] Bryan Polovsky: From the pandemic, that's like exactly what Aladdin did me want to do. Uh but no, I mean I mean, I would because I remember watching that movie, buying the soundtrack. It's actually a soundtrack this time.
[10:07] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, for sure.
[10:08] Bryan Polovsky: Buying the soundtrack, listening to it over like the tape of the cassette tape, oh wheelers, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. And like I like, I was like, I was texting you guys joking that like Rad Kane was my first voice teacher. Because I remember listening to that tape and just trying to sound like Aladdin for sure.
[10:28] Kevin Jaeger: It was upon years upon years. When Aaron texted that, both Hayley and I took that like four literal, and we're both like, you studied with him.
[10:39] Aaron J Albano: I was like, no.
[10:42] Kevin Jaeger: I'm so jealous.
[10:43] Bryan Polovsky: So yeah, but no, but the way I would just like sing one jump reprise, like in elementary school for anyone who would listen to me.
[10:53] Kevin Jaeger: Jumping on your sofa.
[10:55] Bryan Polovsky: Let's be honest, Aaron, you were in high school.
[11:00] Aaron J Albano: It was last week, let's be real.
[11:02] Bryan Polovsky: Um, and then um Return of Jafar and King of Thieves, I did not watch.
[11:08] Kevin Jaeger: Was this your first time watching them?
[11:10] Aaron J Albano: I want to say maybe I watched them, but I blocked them out, so I it felt like the first time I watched them. But I did watch the animated series, and I didn't realize until now when I was like, oh, Return of Jafar must have bridged the movie, the OD movie.
[11:26] Kevin Jaeger: It did.
[11:27] Aaron J Albano: It did. I remember animated series started a couple of months before Return of the Far Javar came out, which is weird. But King of Thieves is actually the the finale, the season, the series finale of the animated show.
[11:43] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[11:44] Aaron J Albano: Oh, I didn't realize how that smart of them.
[11:46] Bryan Polovsky: Haley, what's your relationship?
[11:49] Hayley Podshun: I mean, I'm sure I saw it in theaters. I truly cannot remember.
[11:53] Hayley Podshun: I just grew up being...
[11:54] Bryan Polovsky: She was on Broadway by then, so like she never didn't have time to watch children's movies.
[12:01] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, I was 16 going on 17. I was obsessed with Robin Williams as a child. Like any paper or any question someone asked of like who's your favorite actor, it was always Robin Williams.
[12:15] Hayley Podshun: So I knew that I still is, except for Colin Farrell.
[12:33] Kevin Jaeger: So Homer Simpson did an admirable job.
[12:37] Aaron J Albano: He did. He did a very nice job.
[12:38] Kevin Jaeger: Um, myth we'll get to.
[12:40] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[12:42] Hayley Podshun: But I liked the movie, I loved the music. I actually, when I started to play it on my Disney Plus app, I realized that I had started watching it when I was in Georgia this last like Christmas time doing Holiday Inn. Like I started watching it and I never finished it. So I was like, oh, it's great timing. Um then Return of Jafar. When I watched it, I was like, I've never seen this. And then there were a few parts where I was like, I have seen this.
[13:11] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, interesting.
[13:12] Hayley Podshun: Don't remember why, because I felt like Aladdin was more of like a guy movie, even though, yeah, it just was totally. Um so I don't know why some of that was familiar for me because why would I ever turn that on to watch it? And then King of Thieves, I had never seen, so it was all brand new to me. But I've always been a big fan of the music of Aladdin. I thought it was really good.
[13:37] Kevin Jaeger: Cool, Kevin. Um, so I saw that Aladdin in theaters and was super into it and loved it, and uh Return of Jafar, I actually loved as a child. Sure, and we had the VHS, and I practically wore it out, and we'll get to this. But I called my mother after watching it recently and apologized to her for making her sit through it so many times. Um she said I was waiting for this phone call. That was actually her response.
[14:11] Aaron J Albano: The King of Thieves I never saw, um, but I did also watch the animated cartoon. So I can't believe I didn't see King of Thieves. But I just loved Aladdin because it was, I mean, as Hayley said, it was a relatable story to boys of all kinds. And I'm with Aaron, where like I took the Brad Kane school of voice everything that I sang, like every straight tone that I added, every like almost under the pitch, but like basically their tone that I ever created was all Brad Kane. So just like the king of baritones, just like singing in his basement. Like little voice basement. He's not trying to hit those high C's. Like he's comfortable with a nice like D above middle C. What a dream. What a dream career.
[15:02] Hayley Podshun: Well, right? Well, based on what you said, Kevin, just some factoids here. Um Return of Jafar um is the first direct to uh video animated film by Disney.
[15:16] Aaron J Albano: Oh it also was they were like scared to do that because direct to DVD was like a very like dirty market VHS.
[15:26] Kevin Jaeger: Right, direct to VHS was like a dirty market.
[15:29] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, and it was the first American direct to video animated film. Um, and it ended up selling 15 million copies and gross 300 million dollars, and it became one of the best-selling films on home video ever because it was the first. People loved Aladdin, people were hungry for it. Like whoa, you didn't have to take the kids to the movie theater.
[15:50] Kevin Jaeger: Exactly. So Kimberly, what was your relationship with these?
[15:54] Kimberly Cooper: History, similar to Hayley, it was a boy movie. Um, so it wasn't like on the heavy rotation.
[16:01] Aaron J Albano: It's all you weren't into a movie about a female who just kind of follows along what men tell her to do.
[16:08] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, I didn't know any better at that time. We just didn't know.
[16:18] Aaron J Albano: Yes.
[16:20] Kimberly Cooper: Oh no.
[16:21] Kevin Jaeger: A young Kimberly Cooper.
[16:24] Kimberly Cooper: In which this is one of my earliest memories because I was four, and I was just like openly weeping memories. Or in 1993.
[16:33] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[16:34] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, that just killed my heart. But my mom made me put a white wooden sweatshirt under my Jasmine costume.
[16:44] Aaron J Albano: Oh, that seems right.
[16:47] Hayley Podshun: Oh my gosh. There is nothing worse than a cold Halloween where you have to ruin your costume because your parents want you to be warm.
[16:56] Kimberly Cooper: I'll text this to you guys. That happened in my Phantom in the Opera costume, so no one could see my cape and all the ridiculousness. So they just saw a kid in a winter coat and a mask on. And my dad had done his best because we didn't buy like a phantom mask, we just like cut the bottom of a goalie mask.
[17:18] Aaron J Albano: So you look like like half a Jason.
[17:21] Kimberly Cooper: I literally just look like Jason in a winter coat. Guys, don't worry if you couldn't see the picture. Kimberly will post it so you can see it as well.
[17:29] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[17:29] Kimberly Cooper: I was like, and I just texted it to you, fellas.
[17:32] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, nice. Let's um, so let's dive in here. Let's talk about the first Aladdin 1992. Um I guess like let's who wants to start, Kevin. You want to start?
[17:42] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah. So I have notes that I took during the first two movies. So we'll go through some of this and just these are just random thoughts that I had while I was watching the movie because all of you are like familiar with it. The music is brilliant. It is one of the most thrilling Disney animated movies that they made. Um Abu eats the bread and then he gives it to children. That can't be sanitary. Oh, any I watching anything now when they shake hands or anything, I'm just like freaking out. I'm just like and then I also found an issue with the animation because when the first prince who's like a douche to Aladdin like sh leaves because Raja like bit his pants off and you see his like underwear print.
[18:34] Aaron J Albano: Oh yeah, the fabric, the fabric that's in Raj's mouth is the underwear.
[18:40] Kevin Jaeger: It's not the hand print. Yeah, remember that continuity.
[18:45] Hayley Podshun: Well, what's interesting? Um I didn't see no animated buttons so like well, what talking about the animation. I mean, uh the animation in this is wonderful. You can even still see some of the pencil lines in it, yeah. Which, like, I don't know, usually like I feel like if I saw that today, I'd be like, they didn't work hard enough. But like seeing it from then was just like there was something like very like blood, sweat, and tears that you could feel coming through the screen if that makes sense.
[19:10] Aaron J Albano: Oh yeah, but then it but but the best part is even like even with all that, you could tell this was at the beginning of working with computer, also.
[19:19] Kevin Jaeger: Well, yeah, the whole sequence on those carpet in the puppet escape. Like it's even pixelated, but it's so thrilling.
[19:25] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, for sure.
[19:27] Kevin Jaeger: You're like I wrote next, why does the Sultan have crackers in his clothes? Because that seems weird that he's just pulling them out of his like he's the sultan. Um aren't they like super stale? So they've been there for a while.
[19:41] Aaron J Albano: Well, yeah, because Iago is just also what bothered me in this, and I'm gonna be up front with everyone. Why does Iago have teeth?
[19:52] Hayley Podshun: Oh, you're right.
[19:54] Kevin Jaeger: He has a beak, but they drew the teeth in. It freaked me out.
[19:57] Aaron J Albano: Because you gotta get up.
[20:00] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[20:00] Hayley Podshun: Um I wrote next to the line when Jasmine says to Jafar, what was his crime? She says it really weird. And my sisters and I used to repeat that to each other all the time. Whenever my mom was like punishing one of us, we would all go, What was his crime? And so annoyed.
[20:21] Aaron J Albano: You used to just mine Disney movies for lines to say with your siblings.
[20:26] Hayley Podshun: Correct. We did that.
[20:27] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, what was last week's feed the birds?
[20:33] Hayley Podshun: So here's a question. What per while watching this again? What percent of the movie did you know by heart? And I'm talking book scenes and like what percent? Like, don't say 100, like be real, re be real.
[20:48] Hayley Podshun: I could have recited this movie 60%.
[20:51] Aaron J Albano: Really?
[20:52] Hayley Podshun: That sounds good.
[20:53] Kevin Jaeger: Like so different for because I feel like I I don't know, us girls. I'm like, I was maybe at a 20%.
[21:00] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, I would say a 20 region.
[21:02] Kevin Jaeger: I was at like 75 Howard. Yeah, I could I could as well because also all of the characters are so not even just Robert Williams, but they're so like animated in their inflections. Like, God bless Steve from Full House, Scott Wanger.
[21:16] Hayley Podshun: Yes.
[21:17] Kevin Jaeger: The most like expressions too nice, but it's like so animated in his speaking voice that you remember everything.
[21:30] Hayley Podshun: But the crazy thing is, I could do every single one of Abu's lines like I knew, like I looked at it. Great, Brian. Like when he's pretending to be Jasmine, or like I knew all like you like that kind of stuff.
[21:48] Aaron J Albano: Like I know.
[21:57] Kevin Jaeger: With the whole Tiger King thing happening, did anybody else think that Jasmine is the tiger queen? I was like, well, especially, I mean, we'll talk about it later, but especially with the live action, I was like, who's the handler? What were the rules? Did they was this a real tiger for certain scenes? And speaking of rules, so first of all, I think we can all admit that the cave of wonders scene, especially the jet Aladdin trying to escape Cave of Wonders, is possibly the most thrilling action sequence I have ever seen in the animated film. And it still a hundred percent lives up.
[22:35] Hayley Podshun: Oh yeah.
[22:36] Kevin Jaeger: What's happened with animation nowadays? It still is there.
[22:39] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, yeah.
[22:40] Kevin Jaeger: And even the color difference in terms of like when he's in the cave and all the everything is glistening off of the coins and the money and the gems. And then as soon as Abu touches the ruby, um, like even the color changes and like it's much darker, and it's more of a fire than a glow. It's just like even visually, it's stunning.
[23:01] Hayley Podshun: Speaking of the cave of wonders, can we discuss the rules of the cave of wonders? Because they're a little confusing.
[23:08] Kevin Jaeger: Okay. Because it's like only a diamond or rough can enter, but he can only touch the lamp and nothing else.
[23:16] Aaron J Albano: Yeah.
[23:17] Kevin Jaeger: Right. But it seems it just seems confusing. Like, what is what is the whole point of everything else? Like, why is everything else in there? Like, why is it? Like, does the carpet not count as a thing you can't touch?
[23:30] Hayley Podshun: Because I don't think so, because it's sunshine. I mean, like, essentially it's sunshine. Like, it's a thing. I don't know. I feel like that was that was the one thing I was confused about. Was I was like, they touched the carpet and that didn't do anything. So why he steps on it, right?
[23:47] Kevin Jaeger: Right at the top of the state.
[23:47] Hayley Podshun: Well, unless the carpet wasn't part of the like loot front part of the the yeah, maybe the carpet got there well stuck. Someone else pressure.
[23:56] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, like maybe it fell out of a bag or something. And then the only other notes I have is I appreciate the not joke when uh which one Iago makes the joke and he goes, Oh nah, yeah. And I was like, I was like, that's the 90s.
[24:13] Kevin Jaeger: Iago is great in small doses.
[24:16] Hayley Podshun: We'll get to that later.
[24:17] Kevin Jaeger: Yes, absolutely. This movie, this movie does an amazing job. So this Nubikate movie does an amazing job at like highlighting what everyone does well, making sure that everyone's doing their part. Um it feels like a full, kind of like when we talked about Mary Poppins, like it feels like a full musical. There's an opening number, there's a reprise that ends the whole reprise. What did we decide? Reprise. That's a reprise. That ends the whole thing. Like the I want song is in there. And and even like there's I truly love this movie. And and I'll tell you the opening sequence is so wonderful. It's so good. So good. And I like I like that what weirds me out is that they frame Return of Jafar with Arabian Knights, but they don't reframe they don't frame King of Thieves with it.
[25:07] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, I thought that too.
[25:08] Bryan Polovsky: Why bother even the second one if it's not gonna be the thing you do?
[25:12] Hayley Podshun: Absolutely. Well, I mean, I know we're like we haven't gotten here yet, but like because King of Thieves ends with the merchant, is the idea that the end all three movies are one story.
[25:24] Aaron J Albano: Maybe that merch the merchant has been telling the whole time.
[25:26] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[25:27] Aaron J Albano: I would think so. I mean, I kind of looked at it as that because I never watched the animated series.
[25:33] Hayley Podshun: So that makes sense to me.
[25:35] Kevin Jaeger: I don't know. We have been here for years.
[25:38] Bryan Polovsky: Yeah, which is the big story that this merchant has been telling.
[25:42] Aaron J Albano: My last note that I have about the movie. I mean, I we can talk about how incredible the animation is, how incredible the characters are and all that, but I just have to say, and I know this is gonna open up a good like conversation for all of us, but Robin Williams was so freaking good, just at everything, and it's like his comedy is warming and beautiful and fun, and his characterization is incredible, and it's like you know it's Robin Williams, but like he's so ingrained with the genie that it just works so well, but like the few moments where the genie gets like real are so absolutely beautiful.
[26:24] Hayley Podshun: My food is here. So just while I'm getting my food, you guys discuss how amazing Robin Williams is.
[26:25] Aaron J Albano: So also flawless. I talked about this before about how when I was watching movies really young it took me a while to realize who people were. Sure, I like remember like that's the genie and I went what oh my gosh this is Doubtfire is also genie is also Jack.
[26:25] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, right. Oh Jack, oh I loved Jack. Patch Adams also.
[26:25] Aaron J Albano: Those are not the two Robin Williams movies this site I was like that's be Peter Banning.
[26:25] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, see Manji Gumangi, I think it's pronounced Gumangi.
[26:25] Aaron J Albano: Oh yes, sorry.
[26:25] Hayley Podshun: Oh no, I mean Robin Williams is like again we because we've seen in other iterations of the genie without knocking the other iterations of the genie no Robin Williams is untouchable and I think I think one of the things even more than what Kevin was saying about um the juxtaposition of him being wild and funny and then like really bringing it home I think that like the consistency I there's something that Robin Williams does that a lot of people cannot do physically or emotionally or mentally is even though he's going on tangents doing all the voices doing all the things his objective and the core of what he's doing in every scene is completely connected it never he never strays from what he's trying to do like everything is based on what he is trying to get out of Aladdin, as opposed to it, none of it seems look at me, look at me, even though the genie is very much look at me, look at me.
[28:10] Hayley Podshun: It is all for the sake of Aladdin. And like he's just so good at balancing that with just like being funny and doing all these things. And quite frankly, like to me, the cave of wonder sequence with "Friend Like Me," and from beginning to end, where oh 10,000 years are gonna be such a cricket in the neck to here, here, here, here, here, you know, like though that whole sequence is to me like super iconic. I can like literally recite it to you verbatim, but as a kid, I didn't understand the like all of the references, but like it was still so entertaining, you didn't need to know them to understand them, and like everything and and I'm sure Kevin, you're referencing the um when he's free spoiler, when he gets it.
[28:52] Bryan Polovsky: Well, when he speaks even before he gets free, when he speaks about what it would mean to him to be free, when he's first telling him how like somebody has to wish him to be free, like when he's explaining that, he becomes so real that like I honestly get choked up so quickly.
[29:11] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, and then when he realizes he is free at the end, there is like you can't not be like emotionally have like a frog in your throat, like when that happens, just because he is able to on a dime switch and be so heartfeltly emotional, and it's because he knows how to do comedy the right way, where it's not just like slapstick, but it's comedy that like makes you love him, right?
[29:39] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, so that like when he gets emotional in any sense, even when he's telling Aladdin, like when he hugs Aladdin at the end and is saying goodbye, like I cannot help but get a tear in my eye, just because he's so he earned it because he's so authentically in our hearts, and and I think that because we're watching it from the point of view of Aladdin, we get to fall in love with him as opposed to this being his journey.
[30:06] Aaron J Albano: And I I mean, not to be a Debbie Downer or Dark, but like, you know, I think that, you know, you in this role, you really see into kind of the psyche of what he was probably going through that no one knew. Um, in terms of the idea of freedom of being, you know, freed from whatever he was going through.
[30:27] Hayley Podshun: And that I mean, I think in hindsight watching this movie, obviously, I think that um adds to the effect it may have on you at the end of the film.
[30:35] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah. And also just to kind of discuss the Robin Williams situation, we'll get there like after we talk about erase thoughts, but like Robin Williams was not in the second film, and there is a very publicized reason about why he is not.
[30:48] Bryan Polovsky: Yeah.
[30:48] Hayley Podshun: Oh, why?
[30:49] Aaron J Albano: We can do it. Robin Williams agreed to do the voice of the genie for Aladdin. And this was one of the first ever experiences when a non like trained voice actor who's a no-name, like, not no-name, that's a terrible thing to say, but like not like a celebrity was playing the voice actor. He was one of the first ever celebrities to do voiceover.
[30:50] Hayley Podshun: Right.
[30:50] Aaron J Albano: And Robin Williams agreed to do Aladdin on the SAG pay scale instead of his normal at this point, eight million dollar film ask price for a movie. So he accepted, he did Aladdin for only 75,000.
[31:30] Kevin Jaeger: Wow.
[31:31] Aaron J Albano: And his contract stipulation was I will do this for the SAG pay scale and not for my asking fee. But my requirement is that you will not use my voice or my name in any marketing materials for the movie or any toy selling like ventures that you do. And also the image of the genie as a supporting character will not be bigger than 25% of a poster.
[32:01] Hayley Podshun: Interesting.
[32:02] Aaron J Albano: And so Disney decided to get around that by using 25% of the poster to put the genie, but then making every character exponentially smaller. So even though he's only 25% of the poster, he's the biggest character on the screen. And then they just full on broke the contract by using his name and voice in all of their like deals with McDonald's and all these other companies to sell toys.
[32:30] Kevin Jaeger: So they literally lied to him and broke contract and used his name and voice in order to sell toys and do their tie-in market.
[32:40] Aaron J Albano: So he was like, screw Disney. So Robin Williams has this like famous cup, like famous um quote where he said that Mickey Mouse only has three fingers because he can never actually pick up a check.
[32:56] Hayley Podshun: So he was like very publicly angry at Disney, which is why he refused to do the second film.
[33:02] Kevin Jaeger: And the reason he did the third film was because the CEO of Disney changed, and then the new CEO made a public apology to Robin Williams and said, I'm so sorry for how Disney treated you. That was so wrong.
[33:15] Aaron J Albano: And then he only agreed to do the third film because they gave him a million dollars.
[33:22] Hayley Podshun: Wow.
[33:23] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, work.
[33:25] Aaron J Albano: But he was trying to do the movie, but he didn't want to be used for like the evils of like marketing to like sell toys. Because if they did do that, then he should be paid what he did. So they made a sh like a crap ton of money off of him for only $75,000 worth of work.
[33:45] Hayley Podshun: Wow.
[33:47] Kevin Jaeger: So that is why he didn't do the second film, and he was very, very public about it.
[33:53] Hayley Podshun: Wow. I had no idea.
[33:54] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, I didn't either.
[33:55] Hayley Podshun: Did he do he didn't do the series, I assume then?
[33:57] Aaron J Albano: No, no, it was it was still Dan Castellaneta.
[34:03] Hayley Podshun: Um who?
[34:04] Aaron J Albano: Castellanetta?
[34:05] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, did the um he did Return of Jafar and the series.
[34:11] Kevin Jaeger: If it's a if it's a noun, we say Castellanella.
[34:17] Hayley Podshun: Um who did Jasmine in the series?
[34:21] Aaron J Albano: Everybody else was the same.
[34:22] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, except for the came back, except for the series.
[34:27] Aaron J Albano: Except for the singing voice.
[34:28] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[34:29] Aaron J Albano: Linda Larkin became the same.
[34:30] Hayley Podshun: Linda Larkin played Jasmine through all three movies.
[34:30] Aaron J Albano: All three.
[34:33] Hayley Podshun: Oh and then um, because her voice sounded different.
[34:37] Aaron J Albano: But her voice sounded completely different in the second.
[34:41] Hayley Podshun: Her singing voice went from her singing voice went from Lea Salonga.
[34:44] Aaron J Albano: He did a lot of research.
[34:45] Hayley Podshun: Another fun fact, Linda Larkin's voice is naturally high pitched, but Disney refused to hire her to play Jasmine in the movie unless she would be willing to speak in her lower register to play the character.
[35:01] Aaron J Albano: Great.
[35:02] Hayley Podshun: And so she agreed. And so she did the first movie in the lower register, but as she got older, it was harder for her to like access a lot of those deeper notes. So that's why her voice sounds like it's changing. Is because she was like her voice as she got older, she couldn't hit those like deeper tones that she was forcing her voice to do.
[35:25] Aaron J Albano: I always sometimes I go in for a lot of voiceovers. And I've been in a few times for things that they're like, we need a voice match for this, you know, thing in particular. And they'll send you, you know, the link of what you're supposed to sound like. And most of the time it's a celebrity because they don't want to pay the celebrity.
[35:36] Hayley Podshun: Right.
[35:44] Aaron J Albano: Have to match your voice. And with her voice in the second movie, there were a few moments where I was like, wow, that actor, and I love that IMDB app. I'm always up on that. Of like this, but I don't know why it didn't that didn't stick with me with Jasmine. But watching the second one, I was like, wow, that actor did an incredible voice match because there were a few isms here and there of Jasmine's voice where I was like, that is exactly what she sounds like and what she does.
[36:16] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, this is like her.
[36:18] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, it was because she just was trying to match her younger self, being able to do the deeper voice, but like as she got older, she couldn't do it as well.
[36:27] Hayley Podshun: It's not even very deep.
[36:29] Aaron J Albano: No, I know.
[36:34] Hayley Podshun: Oh, interesting. Kid, um, for the first one, was there anything that stood out to you this time on like your 12th rewatch or whatever it was that you just didn't remember, or you you forgot you loved so much?
[36:47] Kevin Jaeger: Prince Ali. I love that number.
[36:48] Hayley Podshun: Um, we got the monkeys, we got the monkeys, is the best dance in the whole thing.
[36:50] Aaron J Albano: We got the monkeys, we got the monkeys dance.
[36:57] Hayley Podshun: We got the monkeys dances. There's nothing better. I love that number so much, and I forget how good it is every time it starts, and then I'm like, oh my god. Like it's the best.
[37:08] Aaron J Albano: And again, he's so he makes it the song is good, and Robin Williams elevates it.
[37:14] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[37:15] Aaron J Albano: Elephantates it.
[37:16] Hayley Podshun: And the biography of the animation is so good.
[37:20] Aaron J Albano: Yes.
[37:20] Aaron J Albano: That number.
[37:21] Hayley Podshun: I also was gonna say, like, a big shout out to Tim Rice.
[37:25] Aaron J Albano: Like, we all know that Tim Rice is incredibly talented.
[37:28] Hayley Podshun: Sure.
[37:28] Aaron J Albano: Yeah.
[37:29] Hayley Podshun: Howard Ashman is the one who actually pitched the idea to Disney to do an animated Aladdin musical.
[37:36] Aaron J Albano: And he wrote a 17-song like musical adaptation with Alan Menken, and they cut all of his songs except for uh he wrote "Friend Like Me," he wrote uh "Prince Ali," and he wrote uh the opening "Arabian Nights."
[37:54] Aaron J Albano: And then he died because he from complications to AIDS. And so he only he was like in a hospital and he was like 80 pounds and couldn't speak, but they were able to tell him that Aladdin did well, but like he could only do a certain number of songs before he couldn't like physically write anymore. And so they brought in Tim Rice to finish the rest with Alan Menken. And I think it's incredible that there it sounds like one voice.
[38:19] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, yes, yeah. And like the narrative and the speaking, like the tone of the musical aspects of this are so like strong, even though three people like three of the songs were written by Menken and someone else, and then four of the songs were written by Menken in a differently or something.
[38:38] Aaron J Albano: That's so interesting. Go ahead. You know, go for it, Aaron.
[38:41] Aaron J Albano: And what I remember it, I think a lot of the old Ashman Menken songs made it into the Broadway show. Like I know like "Proud of Your Boy"?
[38:49] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[38:53] Aaron J Albano: So they took a lot of that catalog and put it in the bottom of the show like "Proud of Your Boy" because he wrote a whole story like in the original one he was like trying to prove a lot of his motivation was that he was trying to prove something to his mother and blah blah blah. And why I'm learning so much. And the Disney CEO at the time said, "Uh, ax the mother, lose the mother, we don't need the mother," and Howard Ashman like was deeply fighting to keep the mom storyline.
[39:24] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, you mean the CEO of Disney in the early 90s didn't like mothers? And that was a big thing because like Howard Ashman pitched the idea of Aladdin and they were like really working on it and then they were like just kind of stalled and then Disney reached out to them were like, "Can you two, Alan Menken and Howard Ashman, can you just write Beauty and the Beast?" because they were trying to make Beauty and the Beast as a non-musical movie.
[39:24] Aaron J Albano: And they were like, "This isn't working, can you help us?" and Howard Ashman knew he was getting sick and so he was like, "I don't want to go, I want to focus on Aladdin. This is my dream." And they were like, "Please just help with Beauty and the Beast," so he wrote Beauty and the Beast and then apparently the night of the Oscars when they won for Beauty and the Beast is the night that Howard Ashman told Alan Menken that he had tested positive for HIV and was going through all of that.
[40:17] Kevin Jaeger: He's just supposed to be happy.
[40:19] Hayley Podshun: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I find this stuff so fascinating because that time in history.
[40:26] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, and that time in history is just so interesting.
[40:29] Hayley Podshun: And the way that these two things kind of overlapped in that time.
[40:33] Aaron J Albano: Oh, yeah. Is beyond interesting. Um, the documentary that's really good about this time is Waking Sleeping Beauty.
[40:41] Hayley Podshun: It's on Disney Plus.
[40:42] Aaron J Albano: They have that entire story about it, also.
[40:44] Hayley Podshun: Oh, it's next on my queue.
[40:46] Aaron J Albano: And that's the big thing is like Howard Ashman was so important to like the golden age of Disney because he is literally the person who said to them, musical theater and what you do should be married, which is why he did all this that what Aaron was raving to us about his like master classes with Disney animators. He was it's literally Howard Ashman's work that brought us all of the brilliance that is Disney because he taught them what we do in musicals is exactly what you should be doing to create family movies.
[41:21] Kimberly Cooper: Wow.
[41:23] Kimberly Cooper: Um, big cheers to Howard Ashman because made this cheers. I mean, I'm sure we'll talk about it throughout, but um any uh we're we'll move on to Return of Jafar. Um, but any last thoughts, at least for right now, on the animated Aladdin?
[41:44] Aaron J Albano: It still holds up, yeah.
[41:46] Hayley Podshun: It does still hold up.
[41:48] Aaron J Albano: It still holds up like every single aspect of it, the animation, even the quality of it. I know you said that some of it gets a little like fuzzy here and there, but like it's still really good.
[42:00] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, the story is great, the seamlessness of going from um book to song, like the performances, like it's all spot on.
[42:10] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, it's such a strong movie, even being what, over 25 years old at this point.
[42:18] Hayley Podshun: Like 20, what, eight years?
[42:19] Aaron J Albano: 27 years?
[42:20] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[42:22] Aaron J Albano: I don't think I think something that Kevin said really resonated with me. Where like it feels like one voice.
[42:30] Hayley Podshun: I feel like a lot of times, even today, like even in Mary Poppins Returns, like it felt like five different voices trying to make something happen.
[42:37] Aaron J Albano: The tone of the tone alone in what Aladdin is doing is so consistent, even though you have these grounded voice actors like Linda Larkin and Steve from Full House.
[43:01] Hayley Podshun: But also like all of his puns when he's turning them into like when um when he's turning the rug into a spool, and he's turning a you know, like like all like it's the tone of the movie is truly.
[43:14] Aaron J Albano: Things are unraveling quick, boy.
[43:15] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, yeah.
[43:17] Aaron J Albano: It's and it's so stupid at the same time, and it's wonderful. Also, just fun little fact. Um, the animation for Aladdin, the original movie was based off of the uh caricatures and animation that's been done by uh Al Hirschfeld.
[43:33] Hayley Podshun: Who is a person? I'm assuming Kevin's the you're also surprised. Kevin's the only one who read Wikipedia.
[43:42] Aaron J Albano: I thought that was super fun to like create a Broadway that like somebody who has in theater named after them was the inspiration for this movie.
[43:49] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[43:49] Aaron J Albano: Um, quick favorite song from this movie. We'll go around.
[43:52] Hayley Podshun: "Prince Ali."
[44:00] Aaron J Albano: The "Prince Ali" reprise.
[44:02] Kevin Jaeger: Yes, it is the most underrated, it is the best villain song they've written in a while.
[44:08] Aaron J Albano: Oh yeah. Absolutely.
[44:10] Hayley Podshun: It's a perfect terrifying.
[44:13] Kevin Jaeger: So the it's it's the one the one jump reprise is the best song of this entire movie.
[44:19] Aaron J Albano: I mean, I actually think that "Friend Like Me" is the best one in this movie.
[44:23] Hayley Podshun: I'd like to share an acting exercise with you all.
[44:27] Aaron J Albano: Um when I was in high school, I went to the Walnut Street Theater Camp.
[44:32] Hayley Podshun: And we did Aladdin Jr.
[44:34] Aaron J Albano: Oh, of course.
[44:35] Hayley Podshun: And I was narrator number one.
[44:37] Aaron J Albano: Oh, of course.
[44:39] Hayley Podshun: I started the job.
[44:40] Aaron J Albano: That was very good. Um, our very white Aladdin and very white Jasmine existed. But sitting in rehearsal, and like before the one jump reprise, the director was like, "You're out of breath, you've been running around." She goes, she goes, "Run around the studio right now." And she made him do like 25 laps and then start the scene.
[44:59] Aaron J Albano: And we were like, and we were like, "What?"
[45:04] Hayley Podshun: Dedication.
[45:06] Aaron J Albano: If you ever want to start a scene, just run 25 laps around the studio.
[45:10] Hayley Podshun: You can't start heavy panting.
[45:13] Aaron J Albano: You can't run the 25th.
[45:16] Kevin Jaeger: Well, that's like that's like that story with the guy from The Graduate. What's his name, Bryan?
[45:20] Bryan Polovsky: Dustin Hoffman.
[45:21] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah. Justin Hoffman was in a movie where he had to like be out of breath, so he ran around like Central Park, and then like he like uh Sir Lawrence Olivier came out of his trailer.
[45:33] Aaron J Albano: So it's the movie The Marathon Man.
[45:36] Kevin Jaeger: And I think the story you're looking for is that he's supposed to be up for days, and he stayed up for days and then ran and ran, and then he came to sit and he couldn't focus, and like Olivia was like, "Bro, like it's called acting."
[45:49] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[45:50] Kevin Jaeger: Wait, how did you get from The Graduate to Marathon? The same thing?
[45:56] Aaron J Albano: All right. So let's talk for Return of Jafar.
[45:58] Hayley Podshun: And I do.
[46:01] Aaron J Albano: And so no.
[46:04] Kevin Jaeger: Aaron, do you absolutely um I really enjoyed both the "One Jump Ahead" and "One Jump Ahead" reprise? A, because the reprise is basically the I want song of the show.
[46:21] Aaron J Albano: And B, "One Jump" is basically "Belle" from Beauty and the Beast, where it's setting up the world that we're watching the movie.
[46:29] Kevin Jaeger: And so both of those songs, probably both of those songs in tandem are my favorite song of the movie.
[46:35] Hayley Podshun: That's fair.
[46:35] Aaron J Albano: And that song "One Jump" with Brad Kane might be like the sexiest sounding Disney song I've ever heard.
[46:42] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, I would agree.
[46:44] Aaron J Albano: There's something very sexy about it.
[46:45] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[46:46] Kevin Jaeger: It also doesn't hurt that he's shirtless.
[46:50] Aaron J Albano: The whole time.
[46:52] Hayley Podshun: Why do you have a vest but no shirt, bro?
[46:55] Kevin Jaeger: Trade the vest for a shirt.
[46:56] Aaron J Albano: Oh, here's a question. Kevin, you did hear this, right? That like initially they the character animators were modeling um Aladdin uh against um Michael J. Fox, but then they decided that Michael J. Fox was not sexy enough.
[47:12] Kevin Jaeger: So they changed to Tom Cruise.
[47:15] Aaron J Albano: Change it to Tom Cruise.
[47:18] Hayley Podshun: Oh.
[47:18] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, oh.
[47:20] Aaron J Albano: Wait, how long do we think the uh "A Whole New World" when they go around the whole world?
[47:25] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, how do they go around the entire world?
[47:27] Aaron J Albano: Literally the entire world.
[47:29] Kevin Jaeger: How long do you think it took them?
[47:31] Hayley Podshun: Wait, does anyone want to go to a two and a half week first date?
[47:38] Aaron J Albano: Literally, they go from wait, they go what did I say? They went from Egypt to Greece to China, China and everywhere.
[47:47] Kevin Jaeger: And in China, you said.
[47:48] Aaron J Albano: Like, how fast are they going?
[47:50] Kevin Jaeger: That's going at Santa Claus speed.
[47:54] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[47:57] Kevin Jaeger: Where like the snot is pouring out of their oh, you know what I also thought about the score of this movie, just like the in-between parts and and and between the songs.
[48:09] Aaron J Albano: I mean, like the moment where they come back for this made me think of it when they come back from "A Whole New World," and then like she goes back in, they kiss, she goes back in, and then he like falls backwards and it and a crescendo's like this is like I that moment is so ingrained in my head where he falls back into the carpet.
[48:28] Hayley Podshun: And a fun fact to transition us into Return of the Jafar is I love it. Return of Jafar has no original songs, the songs are recreations of songs from the original film.
[48:42] Aaron J Albano: Yeah.
[48:43] Kevin Jaeger: So every song in Return of Jafar is a song from Aladdin where they just wrote a new melody over existing music.
[48:50] Hayley Podshun: It's like Frozen 2.
[48:52] Aaron J Albano: Interesting.
[48:55] Kevin Jaeger: So let's start with Return of Jafar.
[48:57] Hayley Podshun: But first, I do want to apologize.
[49:07] Aaron J Albano: Oh Return of Jafar on VHS and thought it was good when I was little.
[49:11] Kevin Jaeger: My sister loved Aladdin.
[49:12] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, that's what Kevin just said.
[49:14] Aaron J Albano: I thought it was good too. And watching it now, it's like, oh no, what did we do?
[49:17] Kevin Jaeger: So it's an hour.
[49:21] Hayley Podshun: And I couldn't get through it.
[49:23] Aaron J Albano: I was so gonna Disney Plus because that is this generation's home videos.
[49:28] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, here's the Disney Plus.
[49:32] Aaron J Albano: Because they have way better content than Return of Jafar.
[49:36] Kevin Jaeger: You know how like when you hit something on HBO, it does the like doo doo, and then like the fuzzy HBO thing.
[49:43] Hayley Podshun: Okay, I have notes whenever you're ready.
[49:49] Aaron J Albano: Oh my god, yes.
[49:51] Kevin Jaeger: A clamshell noise.
[49:53] Aaron J Albano: Oh, my big first note.
[49:57] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[49:59] Aaron J Albano: Costuming.
[50:03] Kevin Jaeger: Why is Aladdin who just got away from being a street rat still wearing street rat clothes?
[50:08] Aaron J Albano: Well, and why does the genie have the like shots still?
[50:14] Aaron J Albano: He has his shackles back on.
[50:16] Hayley Podshun: It's so weird.
[50:17] Kevin Jaeger: What? Why is this a thing?
[50:18] Aaron J Albano: Well, does he have legs in this movie the entire time?
[50:23] Hayley Podshun: Because when he's free, he gets legs, right?
[50:26] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, well, he has legs in the first one.
[50:28] Kevin Jaeger: Whatever, right?
[50:29] Aaron J Albano: But like he only has legs.
[50:31] Hayley Podshun: Does he only have legs in the second one?
[50:33] Aaron J Albano: I really can't remember.
[50:34] Kevin Jaeger: These are pretty sure he only has legs in the second one.
[50:37] Hayley Podshun: Okay.
[50:38] Aaron J Albano: I don't know. But I will say, who walked into the writer's room and said, "Guys, I have an idea. We make Iago the main character of the Aladdin sequel and give Gilbert Godfrey two songs."
[50:53] Kevin Jaeger: There's actually somebody who I thought was, he must have really good agents. When they were writing the show, there was a person at Disney who said that they were so enthralled with the Iago character, they wanted to explore it more, and that's where it's, I mean, Iago is their companion in the animated series.
[51:14] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[51:14] Aaron J Albano: And so I figured it was just like their carryover.
[51:18] Kevin Jaeger: That was how they, but I wrote that too. I was like, why does Iago have two songs?
[51:23] Aaron J Albano: And why is one of them a duet with friend of the show Liz Callaway?
[51:28] Kevin Jaeger: I will never forgive Disney for making Liz Callaway sing with Gilbert Godfrey.
[51:33] Hayley Podshun: Never. And you know, my biggest problem with Return of Jafar is poorly written, it's a garbage fire.
[51:39] Aaron J Albano: However, my biggest problem with this and King of Thieves, which I like more than this, is that it just ignores every single lesson they learned from the first one, and they have to learn the same lessons again, but poorly.
[51:59] Kevin Jaeger: Like the arc of the characters, every single character, even like Jasmine, who doesn't really do much in the first one, which is unfortunate, like from point A to point B, like actually learn something.
[52:10] Hayley Podshun: The genie is free, this and that, and this one they just like they double, they backtrack on everything.
[52:16] Aaron J Albano: Aladdin's lying the same way, it's just like it's so stupid.
[52:20] Kevin Jaeger: I'm so mad.
[52:21] Hayley Podshun: I adore that on Disney Plus the description of Aladdin, the original movie, says Aladdin and Jasmine work together to stop Jafar, and it's like all of a sudden, no, she is a secondary character who literally acts like property in the entire movie.
[52:38] Aaron J Albano: He literally says, "I'm gonna go stay here," like multiple times.
[52:44] Kevin Jaeger: Like she is literally property that entire movie, but they Disney realized like that's not okay, but like this is a great movie.
[52:50] Hayley Podshun: Let's like, let's just talk about that.
[52:53] Aaron J Albano: But also, Jasmine is like an idiot in the second movie.
[52:57] Hayley Podshun: Like, yeah, first one, she's not offended, but she's like she's a product of the times, and like she's stuck in an area where like men are controlling what she does, and like that's a sad enough story, but like that is what would have happened to her at that time period, but like she's like actually a moron in the second movie.
[53:16] Kevin Jaeger: She's the dumbest person ever.
[53:18] Aaron J Albano: So he's more memorable in the hour of the second one for being so stupid.
[53:24] Hayley Podshun: Literally, she's so dumb.
[53:27] Kevin Jaeger: Why does she put a jeweled flower that is not real in a vase with a real flower?
[53:35] Aaron J Albano: Like that made me so mad.
[53:39] Hayley Podshun: Also, Jafar's barely in Return of Jafar.
[53:44] Kevin Jaeger: And let's just, we all know it's Jason Alexander the whole time.
[53:48] Aaron J Albano: Iago, um zero, that's what it should be called.
[53:51] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, it should be called Aladdin 2, the Iago story.
[53:56] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, or like what was the third, the uh the third Lion King is like a Lion King one and a half, like Timon and Pumbaa do, you know, you mean Simba's practice?
[54:07] Aaron J Albano: But like no, no, no, no, no.
[54:09] Hayley Podshun: I'm talking about the third one.
[54:10] Kevin Jaeger: Let's just say it now.
[54:11] Aaron J Albano: I mean hot lions for Dan Castanella.
[54:15] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, the genie is so annoying in this movie.
[54:18] Kevin Jaeger: He's annoying.
[54:20] Aaron J Albano: There's nothing charming about it.
[54:21] Hayley Podshun: And that's because like he does Dan Casanella is, it's also because the writing doesn't give him the chance to, but he's not Robin Williams in the way that he can turn on a dime and be riffing his face off and then all of a sudden be sincere.
[54:37] Kevin Jaeger: We'll say he did a pretty good job though.
[54:40] Aaron J Albano: There again, back to what I was saying, but he did a great job moments of trying to be that voice double of Robin Williams.
[54:51] Hayley Podshun: Absolutely.
[54:52] Aaron J Albano: And I mean, that's the heart that he had the hardest job out of any single person on that entire film.
[54:58] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, it isn't it they are huge to fell, and I thought he did, he did admirably.
[55:04] Hayley Podshun: I think he didn't, he didn't hit it out of the park, but I think you're right, he was annoying.
[55:10] Aaron J Albano: But they wrote, they're they wrote Robin Williams as opposed to letting Robin Williams do it, so it doesn't make sense.
[55:16] Kevin Jaeger: So it's a writer's room trying to recreate what happened, then letting Robin Williams do the magic.
[55:22] Hayley Podshun: And then, I mean, not to not skipping ahead, but then when you get to three and you realize it is Robin Williams, there's literally this weight that comes off of you, like yes, oh my god, I'm back, and then you sit up and you start watching the movie again because you're excited.
[55:39] Aaron J Albano: Because it's just so honest and real, even though like the third movie decidedly does not have as good writing as the first movie, like his performance is so real that you're just like it's a crazy joke, but like you made it work.
[55:55] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[55:56] Aaron J Albano: Also, um, the fact that Aladdin decides to do all these things without taking the genie, why would you ever leave your house without your magical friend?
[56:05] Kevin Jaeger: It doesn't make sense.
[56:07] Aaron J Albano: He's like, I'm going to a dangerous situation. Let me leave the magic friend back.
[56:12] Hayley Podshun: I'll take the bird.
[56:13] Kevin Jaeger: Like, no.
[56:14] Aaron J Albano: That doesn't even make sense.
[56:16] Hayley Podshun: Bird and the monkey. What are you doing?
[56:17] Kevin Jaeger: What are you doing?
[56:19] Aaron J Albano: Such poor decision making.
[56:20] Hayley Podshun: And also, like, nobody wanted George from Seinfeld in any of these movies.
[56:25] Kevin Jaeger: Hey, Jason Alexander is a Tony Winning actor who is incredibly talented.
[56:29] Aaron J Albano: He is, but like, I need him in Aladdin.
[56:32] Hayley Podshun: I mean, I didn't need Return of Jafar.
[56:38] Kevin Jaeger: Um, I mean, uh, anything else you want to say about Return of Jafar?
[56:43] Aaron J Albano: Jonathan Freeman's great.
[56:45] Hayley Podshun: Oh, yeah, he's great.
[56:47] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[56:48] Aaron J Albano: It just should have a whole song.
[56:51] Hayley Podshun: Definitely not.
[56:53] Kevin Jaeger: I was just very confused in Return of Jafar about who is being asked to sing.
[56:59] Aaron J Albano: Because, like, we have a musical going on here, and you're giving a song to the genie who is not Robin Williams.
[57:06] Hayley Podshun: That first song is rough.
[57:08] Kevin Jaeger: Two songs to Iago and then one song to Jafar.
[57:12] Aaron J Albano: I was just like, what is happening?
[57:14] Hayley Podshun: Well, Kimberly, you made a good point earlier where like I actually started watching Return of Jafar and got a little bit excited because it started with Arabian Knights.
[57:22] Kevin Jaeger: I was like, cool, they're bookending each movie with like we're telling a story.
[57:26] Hayley Podshun: And then the second that like it went to it, I also remembered, like, oh right, this is not the same vibrant animation.
[57:35] Aaron J Albano: This is the animated series.
[57:40] Hayley Podshun: Animated series, exactly.
[57:42] Kevin Jaeger: So even looking at it wasn't as vibrant and fun.
[57:45] Aaron J Albano: No.
[57:46] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, it was not a fun thing to have on the TV.
[57:49] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, totally.
[57:51] Aaron J Albano: It's an hour, and I've zoned out.
[57:53] Hayley Podshun: It was 69 minutes, and I was like, when will this end?
[57:58] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, the animation difference between one and two, when two started, I was like, oh god.
[58:06] Aaron J Albano: Yeah.
[58:07] Hayley Podshun: I don't realize what a difference that makes until at least you're watching it in order.
[58:13] Kevin Jaeger: But I guess I could pull up two at any time and just be like, this looks terrible.
[58:19] Aaron J Albano: Because even the, there was a lot of like facial inconsistencies.
[58:22] Hayley Podshun: Like Aladdin looked different, like yeah, like weirdly Picasso'd at some point.
[58:27] Aaron J Albano: He was like very much stockier.
[58:29] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[58:30] Aaron J Albano: At the time when Disney was like being hounded about, like in critics who were saying that the animation was so poor compared to the original.
[58:39] Hayley Podshun: Disney said that the excuse was if they had kept it as a main film to be like released in theaters with like great animation, it would have taken five to six years to come out.
[58:52] Aaron J Albano: So they said because they did it the way they did it to get it out quickly, they used different animation, so it took only two years.
[59:00] Kevin Jaeger: Well, they wanted to sell their TV show.
[59:02] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, trying to sell the TV show.
[59:04] Hayley Podshun: Um last thoughts about Return of Jafar?
[59:07] Kevin Jaeger: Nope.
[59:08] Aaron J Albano: No bueno.
[59:10] Hayley Podshun: All right.
[59:10] Kevin Jaeger: So now we're gonna talk King of Thieves.
[59:12] Aaron J Albano: King of Thieves came out in '96.
[59:15] Hayley Podshun: Um in '96, this was the series finale for the animated series.
[59:20] Kevin Jaeger: Um Robin.
[59:21] Aaron J Albano: Gary Orbach, as Kevin said, he came, uh what's his name came back?
[59:27] Hayley Podshun: Um, uh Robin Williams, and obviously that's like a nice, uh like and like Hayley said, it was like a weight off your shoulders.
[59:35] Kevin Jaeger: We're like, okay, we're good.
[59:37] Aaron J Albano: Um money this time, though.
[59:39] Hayley Podshun: He got that money.
[59:41] Kevin Jaeger: Brian, did it air on TV first, and then it got released to home video?
[59:46] Aaron J Albano: Or did he?
[59:47] Kevin Jaeger: Um, I think it was just released to video.
[59:50] Aaron J Albano: Oh, okay.
[59:53] Kevin Jaeger: Um this is fine.
[1:00:00] Aaron J Albano: I remember this one because I remember Aladdin's father.
[1:00:02] Hayley Podshun: I remember the Midas hand being the thing.
[1:00:05] Kevin Jaeger: Um, I remember them trying to get married.
[1:00:07] Aaron J Albano: Like, I vividly remember this one.
[1:00:09] Hayley Podshun: Weirdly, I didn't remember any of the genie stuff.
[1:00:14] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, me neither.
[1:00:15] Aaron J Albano: That makes sense because he's with Jasmine the whole time.
[1:00:18] Hayley Podshun: Like, I don't understand why he didn't take him like, I'm going to a dangerous place where the 40 thieves are.
[1:00:23] Kevin Jaeger: Let me bring my magical friend to help me.
[1:00:25] Aaron J Albano: It's like, let me bring the bird.
[1:00:27] Hayley Podshun: We're fine.
[1:00:28] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, I didn't get any of that.
[1:00:29] Aaron J Albano: And also, like, we still like Iago, but he's proving he's a bad guy.
[1:00:33] Hayley Podshun: Like again.
[1:00:35] Kevin Jaeger: Well, that's the thing. In between, they trust Iago because they've been hanging out with him for like, you know, 96 episodes.
[1:00:45] Aaron J Albano: And then you have, but it just again, they don't learn their lessons.
[1:00:49] Hayley Podshun: Like, it's the same mistakes they're making.
[1:00:51] Kevin Jaeger: Right.
[1:00:52] Aaron J Albano: Yeah.
[1:00:52] Hayley Podshun: And it's very frustrating in that way.
[1:00:55] Aaron J Albano: I will say one of the one of my biggest frustrations with this, because I did like it more than I liked.
[1:01:00] Kevin Jaeger: Sure.
[1:01:01] Hayley Podshun: And Mrs. Doubtfire's in it, so that's all I cared about.
[1:01:03] Aaron J Albano: It was so fun.
[1:01:05] Kevin Jaeger: Well, that's all this movie are intense.
[1:01:08] Hayley Podshun: The what?
[1:01:09] Aaron J Albano: They're like references and Easter eggs.
[1:01:12] Kevin Jaeger: So much more.
[1:01:12] Aaron J Albano: They amped it up.
[1:01:13] Hayley Podshun: They probably, honestly, what they probably did was in the first one, they were probably, uh, they were nervous.
[1:01:19] Kevin Jaeger: He did so much.
[1:01:20] Aaron J Albano: You can watch his videos on YouTube of him keep going and them like animating to it, but I'm sure they cut it down and try to streamline it.
[1:01:27] Hayley Podshun: In this one, they were like, "Who cares? Like, whatever you want to do, do it."
[1:01:31] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, do you think that?
[1:01:35] Aaron J Albano: Um, well, I'll get to that in a second.
[1:01:38] Hayley Podshun: Do you think that his, because Mrs. Doubtfire was in it, Forrest Gump was in it, all of these different movies were in it?
[1:01:44] Kevin Jaeger: And I was like, wait, were those all Secret Disney movies?
[1:01:48] Aaron J Albano: Like, because no, no.
[1:01:50] Hayley Podshun: I mean, there are a ton of Disney references, like the Steamboat Willie moment and him.
[1:01:54] Kevin Jaeger: There's so many Disney references.
[1:01:56] Aaron J Albano: They had a full like princess moment where he went through all the different princesses.
[1:01:59] Hayley Podshun: Yeah, but I was like, are those.
[1:02:01] Kevin Jaeger: I didn't know if those were like all touchstone movies or if they were all produced by Disney.
[1:02:06] Aaron J Albano: I think, I don't think so.
[1:02:10] Kevin Jaeger: Not like actual, not like Disney Disney, but like if they were touchstone movies or they were Miramax movies, I was like, wait, is that something that they have to pay for?
[1:02:20] Aaron J Albano: Is that the same thing?
[1:02:21] Kevin Jaeger: I don't think so, but also remember at that time, like, oh my god, sorry.
[1:02:21] Aaron J Albano: Remember at that time though, like the only thing to do was to go to the movies.
[1:02:31] Hayley Podshun: So, like, and those films were so they were so important with our pop culture for sure that every single person knew them nowadays.
[1:02:43] Kevin Jaeger: Like, if you were to quote from like I don't even what uh uh what one best picture this year? This current year, you will it'd be hard because it was in Korean Parasite, it was not Paris one. But like if you were to make a joke about Parasite, like in let's say Aladdin were released today, like only a small percentage of people would actually get that. Like, my you could make a frozen joke, and everyone would probably get it at some point too, probably, but it would have to be broad, yeah, it'd have to be like let it go.
[1:03:15] Kimberly Cooper: It has to be a let it go joke.
[1:03:17] Aaron J Albano: Yes.
[1:03:17] Kevin Jaeger: You have to be.
[1:03:18] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.
[1:03:18] Kevin Jaeger: Whereas then, like, I mean, although Kimberly lives in that world. And at that time, the only thing to do was go see movies, you know. So you're like, it's very telling that we all got the Mrs. Doubtfire joke.
[1:03:32] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, right.
[1:03:34] Kevin Jaeger: That's very telling because like you can't pick a movie that universally everyone will get the joke.
[1:03:41] Hayley Podshun: Yeah.
[1:03:42] Kevin Jaeger: That's also a that's also very telling of Rob William's star power that he was so iconic that we all knew all of these roles he played. I'll tell you the warmth that I felt in my heart was not was I'm okay, I don't have the corona. But the warmth that I felt in my heart when when like when I I honestly I wasn't even looking up at the screen at that point, and I heard Eufogenia Doubtfire in my ears, and I looked up like like a little kid again. It was I know totally I gagged, I loved it so much.
[1:04:13] Kimberly Cooper: Wait, Aaron, you were supposed to you were saying something. Aaron has a point that's very good.
[1:04:15] Aaron J Albano: Oh yeah.
[1:04:18] Kevin Jaeger: Oh I hope it's terrible.
[1:04:20] Aaron J Albano: No, I don't that's a lot of pressure. No, I mean, the one thing that I will say about the one thing that I had issues with with the movie, which which struck me a little odd, is that Aladdin's father's name is Cassim, who is also the name of the thief at the beginning of the original movie, who was also the name of a f of Aladdin's friend in the Aladdin Broadway show. And that was a little because originally Howard Ashman wrote the show for Aladdin, his three buddies, and one of them was Cassim. But that's where it got a little icky for me because it I was like, okay, you're gonna recycle the same name Middle Eastern name on three different characters in your property. That's where it'd be like a friend and then the dad. Also, the dad's a hunk.
[1:05:15] Hayley Podshun: He's a dad.
[1:05:18] Aaron J Albano: Sorry, the dad can get it.
[1:05:20] Kevin Jaeger: The dad, the the voice of Gamly on the Yeah, I know.
[1:05:24] Aaron J Albano: That's the weird part. No, but it actually works for me. Like I'm okay with that.
[1:05:28] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, alright, alright.
[1:05:29] Aaron J Albano: He was a hunk.
[1:05:30] Hayley Podshun: Those like the salt and pepper.
[1:05:32] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, he was a lot. And also, this is what I thought Aaron was gonna say because we had texted about it.
[1:05:37] Kevin Jaeger: I'm I was gonna say this next if you didn't, yeah.
[1:05:40] Aaron J Albano: The King of Thieves has a surprising amount of death, especially death that is brought up at the hands of Aladdin.
[1:05:49] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, like yes, that character comes back, but like in the moment, Aladdin thinks he murdered somebody, and his father let his son murder somebody.
[1:05:59] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, and then it's well and then he does murder him.
[1:06:02] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, they actually murder him at the end. And the same way in Return of Jafar, Jafar dies at the end of that movie, and he dies in lava. I'm like, oh that lava scene is crazy.
[1:06:17] Hayley Podshun: But it's ridiculous.
[1:06:19] Kevin Jaeger: I was just like, well, I guess we're really comfortable with death at this point. I mean, Bambi, um, Dumbo, uh Frollo falls off the is murdered by falling off the tower.
[1:06:33] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, I guess, yeah.
[1:06:35] Kevin Jaeger: But also is eaten by hyenas. There were a lot of Ursula gets popped. I guess that's real, so maybe it's nothing. There were a lot of guns in this movie.
[1:06:47] Aaron J Albano: So many guns.
[1:06:49] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, guns?
[1:06:50] Aaron J Albano: Guns?
[1:06:51] Kevin Jaeger: So many guns.
[1:06:54] Aaron J Albano: I don't think I noticed.
[1:06:55] Kevin Jaeger: Oh god, I did. As I bought some, as I for some particular. They constantly were were like displaying guns. The genie was making jokes about guns. They were like every time the genie turned into something, half the time it was like he did the he said Stallone and Schwarzenegger a lot with like Rambo and stuff like that.
[1:07:16] Hayley Podshun: That's a good point.
[1:07:17] Aaron J Albano: And then like they changed it so that when he shot the gun, it was shooting lasers and not bullets. But like that was something that was very clear to me that I was like, oh, this is an early 90s film where we're not thinking about like all of the things we did.
[1:07:32] Kevin Jaeger: Guns.
[1:07:32] Aaron J Albano: Well, today's guns are handshakes.
[1:07:35] Kevin Jaeger: Right.
[1:07:37] Kimberly Cooper: Or sneezes.
[1:07:38] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[1:07:41] Aaron J Albano: Um wait, Aaron, there's there's a cooler above your head, and it every once in a while, I'm like, do you have an Aladdin hat? Are you in a Fez?
[1:07:49] Hayley Podshun: There it is.
[1:07:56] Kevin Jaeger: Um that was a good observation. Anything else that stood out to you in in uh uh King of Thieves?
[1:08:03] Aaron J Albano: I don't keep wanting to say Prince.
[1:08:04] Kevin Jaeger: Yes.
[1:08:04] Aaron J Albano: Why does Aladdin not wear shoes?
[1:08:07] Kevin Jaeger: Street Rat.
[1:08:09] Aaron J Albano: Right, but he's not anymore.
[1:08:11] Kevin Jaeger: And also not out of the street, but you can't. At the end of the movie, he and Jasmine decide to go see the world. And I was like, girl, you guys saw the world in three and a half minutes in the first movie. You have already done it. You saw that world. Like the magic carpet, and based on what time period like it takes for the magic carpet to fly, you can see the whole world in 20 minutes, and you can come right back and rule your kingdom.
[1:08:41] Hayley Podshun: I mean, I I'm very happy that these movies didn't get worse and worse. I mean, it was a huge, like opposite bell curve, but like oh yeah, it was definitely like a oh yeah, yeah.
[1:08:55] Aaron J Albano: I mean the third one's not great, but like Robin Williams at least like makes it more tolerable.
[1:09:00] Kevin Jaeger: The songs are much better than the second one.
[1:09:03] Hayley Podshun: What'd you say?
[1:09:04] Aaron J Albano: Who wrote the songs for the third one?
[1:09:08] Kevin Jaeger: I will say that the whole weekend I've been singing to myself, there's nothing in the world, nothing in the whole wide world. There's nothing in the world quite like a friend.
[1:09:21] Hayley Podshun: That's in the second one, yeah.
[1:09:23] Kevin Jaeger: That's awful.
[1:09:24] Hayley Podshun: It's like the second one.
[1:09:25] Kevin Jaeger: I don't remember any of the songs from the second and third one.
[1:09:28] Aaron J Albano: That is the genie song that Jasmine and Aladdin join in at the end.
[1:09:33] Hayley Podshun: Wow.
[1:09:34] Kevin Jaeger: Jasmine does the what earled.
[1:09:37] Aaron J Albano: Of course.
[1:09:39] Hayley Podshun: I did have out of thin air stuck in my head in the shower today.
[1:09:43] Kevin Jaeger: Which one?
[1:09:44] Aaron J Albano: Out of thin air.
[1:09:45] Kevin Jaeger: The last one was awful.
[1:09:47] Aaron J Albano: I thought that was trash.
[1:09:49] Kevin Jaeger: It was not good, but it was stuck in my head. Kevin, do you know why Leia Salonga was not the singing voice?
[1:09:57] Hayley Podshun: Um, no, but I'm thinking it's because she just was like doing like Broadway and like didn't want to. I don't know.
[1:10:05] Aaron J Albano: She was busy in Manila being like a superstar.
[1:10:08] Kevin Jaeger: And had she done Miss Saigon by this point?
[1:10:11] Aaron J Albano: I think she had.
[1:10:12] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.
[1:10:13] Aaron J Albano: Saigon was 91 so she did that and that's like winning the Tony was what got her to like Disney's right because Howard Macken was like very instrument Howard Mencken Howard Mancken Howard Ashman was very instrumental in being like we have to hire Broadway superstars to sing this stuff because they understand musicals and they still do thank Oz and so he was very big in then doing that which is why they hired Leia right after she won the Tony to do a Jasmine.
[1:10:47] Kevin Jaeger: Kimberly to answer your question Randy Peterson and Kevin Quinn ah my good friends yes Alan Makey was like no I ain't got time for this let's uh this brings us to the end of our episode before we end um let's go around and uh say one thing from the just from the animated the three animated one thing that you take away from watching this time Robin Williams is a genius yeah yeah it holds up it really really holds up in many more more ways than one yeah I I was gonna say Rob Williams that was my first was Robin was a g is a genius and also like Alan Macon is brilliant to be able to write with multiple brilliant men and create one voice through the whole show.
[1:11:39] Hayley Podshun: Yeah um I'd like to tell you uh Jay's favorite part of the film sure sure um carpet.
[1:11:47] Kevin Jaeger: Carpet.
[1:11:48] Hayley Podshun: Oh, yeah.
[1:11:49] Kevin Jaeger: Carpet has such a personality without like without the yeah not speaking footstool from beating the beast.
[1:11:58] Aaron J Albano: Yes.
[1:11:59] Hayley Podshun: Or it's like I as I like to call him Rugman.
[1:12:02] Kevin Jaeger: Rugman.
[1:12:03] Hayley Podshun: Give me some Tasal.
[1:12:06] Kevin Jaeger: I never knew what that was.
[1:12:07] Hayley Podshun: I used to think as a kid that he said Tasa. And I didn't know that it was tassel. So like watching it this time, I was like, oh.
[1:12:19] Aaron J Albano: There were so many moments in this that I watched that the genie would go on a riff, and I'd be like, oh, I know what that is now.
[1:12:24] Hayley Podshun: Yes, like I know the rest. Even think when he mentioned Ozzy in like the third one when Rob Williams mentioned Ozzie Smith or whoever you mentioned who's like the dad from my two sons or whatever.
[1:12:39] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, uh-huh.
[1:12:40] Hayley Podshun: Oh. And I was like, I'm old enough to know what that is. Like there are so many jokes that I was just like, yes, I get that now.
[1:12:48] Kevin Jaeger: Um, well, on that note, uh, th thank you so much, Aaron and Hayley, for joining us. What an honor.
[1:12:53] Hayley Podshun: Thanks for having us again.
[1:12:56] Kevin Jaeger: We'll let you know what we're gonna watch for next week. Um, and uh, you know, we we're we're gonna look for something with unbelievable sights, indescribable feelings, soaring, tumbling, freewheeling through an endless diamond sky, which is the quote we're ending with.
[1:13:11] Bryan Polovsky: Yes, well done, Brian!
[1:13:13] Kevin Jaeger: Good job.
[1:13:14] Bryan Polovsky: Thanks, guys. I did it.
[1:13:15] Kimberly Cooper: You like that's actually my favorite lyric.
[1:13:19] Aaron J Albano: I love that.
[1:13:21] Hayley Podshun: Oh, it's so good.
[1:13:21] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, I love every moment red letter because I didn't know what that meant until I looked it up. I was like, yesterday.
[1:13:28] Kimberly Cooper: Um, but you can follow them.
[1:13:31] Kevin Jaeger: Like a red letter moment?
[1:13:32] Kimberly Cooper: It's like it's like like a thing you'll never forget. Because the Romans used to mark in their calendar with a red letter if it was an important day.
[1:13:41] Aaron J Albano: Oh, but thank you all for joining us. You can find us on uh Spotify, you can find us uh at Broadway Podcast Network, iTunes, rate and review us there. Five stars.
[1:13:54] Kevin Jaeger: Thank you.
[1:13:55] Bryan Polovsky: Um of course we uh you know if you're listening to this on the podcast, um, you can find our take on the live action on our Patreon um and the video as well. If you're watching us right now, you heard it. Thanks for being a patron.
[1:14:10] Kimberly Cooper: Uh thank you for being a patron very much. We love you all. We hope you're doing well. Hi, Maze. We love all our patronists.
[1:14:19] Kevin Jaeger: Yes, and uh uh uh Adina is our newest uh tier uh jumper. Um so she's on the next tier, so we want to give her a shout out. Thanks for uh doing but um you know we we wanna we hope you're all doing well, we hope you're all healthy and staying safe during this time. Um we're happy that we can bring you more content, even though we're sad surrounding the circumstances, but you can count on us giving you more contents to keep you occupied. Um thank you so much.
[1:14:46] Bryan Polovsky: We got you.
[1:14:49] Kevin Jaeger: We raise our glasses and we end it with Zudula.
[1:14:56] All: Cheers.
[1:14:57] Kevin Jaeger: Cheers.
[1:14:57] All: Thanks everybody.
[1:14:59] Kevin Jaeger: Thanks, guys.
[1:15:00] All: Cheers.
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