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[0:00] Bryan Plopsky: Hi, Brian here.

[0:01] Kevin Jaeger: Kevin here.

[0:03] Kimberly Cooper: Kimberly here.

[0:06] Bryan Plopsky: We know that you're stuck inside, like we are stuck inside. So what we've been doing is we've been doing some video chats with the three of us. And sometimes we have a special friend join us.

[0:19] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[0:20] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.

[0:20] Bryan Plopsky: So we are gonna be putting out some additional content for you guys to help you get through this quarantiney time. Um, so we are doing the same kind of Broadwaysted fun, focusing on a couple different things. Really, we're just kind of going through some old catalogs of things that we can watch since we desperately miss Broadway. So we're trying to find ways to bring more Broadway to you guys and to share with all of us. And we're really trying to watch things that you can access in your own homes through things like Disney Plus, Netflix, YouTube, Hulu.

[0:52] Kevin Jaeger: Let's name some other functions.

[0:55] Bryan Plopsky: Um, YouTube TV. Um, we're gonna watch Twitch stuff. That's fun.

[1:02] Kimberly Cooper: No, no, no, no, no.

[1:05] Bryan Plopsky: Um, but yeah, what we're gonna do is we're gonna actually put the videos, the full extended videos onto our Patreon account. So you can find that at patreon.com backslash Broadwaysted. Those are gonna be in our lowest tier if you wanted to see the full. But what we're also gonna do is we're gonna edit down that long, long episode into something a little bit more like a Broadwaysted episode for you here free on the podcast feed.

[1:33] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[1:34] Bryan Plopsky: So you'll be able to get that by going to anywhere you listen to a podcast. Uh, you're already listening to us now, so you've already found it. But um, gotcha. You can continue to find it on iTunes on Spotify.

[1:44] Kimberly Cooper: Well, on that note, thank you so much for listening to us. We always appreciate it. You can find us on Patreon, you can find us right here, but now for your regularly scheduled Broadwaysted.

[1:53] Kevin Jaeger: Woohoo, that's us.

[1:54] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.

[2:01] Bryan Plopsky: Did you bring wine?

[2:02] Kevin Jaeger: I got the glasses.

[2:03] Kimberly Cooper: You guys, I made a quiz.

[2:05] Bryan Plopsky: I didn't bring anything right here to that bug.

[2:16] Bryan Plopsky: Hello, and welcome to the official Broadwaysted podcast. We're drunk on theater. I'm your host, Brian Plopsky, and I need to stay awake because underneath the lovely London sky, there's a spoonful of sugar that trips a little light fantastic during our jolly holiday. Remember, we've got to feed the birds tuppence a bag because a man has dreams. Can you imagine that? The life I lead as a pavement artist in a conversation at the Fidelity Fiduciary Bank, a British bank, the place where the lost things go is supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. We'll be introducing Mary Poppins, the perfect nanny at the Royal Dalton Music Hall. But as turning turtles, there's nowhere to go but up. If a cover is not a book, then we just have to go fly a kite. Or maybe we can see that joining us today are the usual chimchim cherries who love to laugh and step in line, including Kevin saving Mr. Hanks, Jaeger.

[3:06] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, okay.

[3:09] Bryan Plopsky: Thanks a lot. Kimberly, our sister suffragette game master and unofficial babysitter for the hour.

[3:15] Kimberly Cooper: It would have been a suffragette, yes.

[3:17] Bryan Plopsky: And with us today are two lovely people who you've heard or seen on this show before. One is delightful and was in shows like Hello Dolly, Something Rotten, Chaplin, Anything Goes, Hairspray, and so many more. The other just happens to have been a Mary Poppins, so we're doing him a masolid. Let's give a big Broadwaysted welcome to Friends of the Show, Hayley Podschun and Aaron J. Albano.

[3:40] Hayley Podschun: Yay.

[3:48] Aaron J Albano: Literally, my only contribution is that I did the show.

[3:52] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, I mean, that's pretty useful in this scenario.

[3:57] Aaron J Albano: That's a fourth idea, because all three movies and then the stage musical, which I have never seen.

[4:03] Hayley Podschun: I didn't see it?

[4:05] Aaron J Albano: Really?

[4:05] Hayley Podschun: I saw it in London.

[4:07] Aaron J Albano: Aaron sent us the clip that they, they're like the filmed clip they did of Step in Time, which I actually never watched before.

[4:13] Bryan Plopsky: Were you in that, Aaron?

[4:15] Aaron J Albano: Mm-hmm.

[4:15] Bryan Plopsky: That cool.

[4:16] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, you are?

[4:16] Aaron J Albano: Yeah.

[4:17] Bryan Plopsky: Aaron's been on Broadway since he was in the womb.

[4:20] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, but they never film him.

[4:21] Bryan Plopsky: And that's like 90 years ago.

[4:26] Kevin Jaeger: No, they do not.

[4:28] Bryan Plopsky: Yeah, Mary Poppins opened 90 years ago.

[4:30] Aaron J Albano: It did.

[4:33] Kevin Jaeger: I was alive, so we're good.

[4:35] Bryan Plopsky: But before we get into these movies, um, what are you drinking? What are you drinking?

[4:41] Kevin Jaeger: Uh, let's go around the horn. Uh, I'll start. I'm drinking. So I thought to myself, I grabbed my Wisconsin mug because I like Wisconsin. Um, but I made some relaxation and tea with a little bit of, um, you know, stress fury relief because we're in a weird situation, and then I put in Tanteo and tea hot tea with tequila, yeah. And I put in the silver, yeah. I mean, I didn't put a lot in, but like enough to like have a give it a kick. It wasn't in a whiskey mood.

[5:12] Kimberly Cooper: A little nip, you mean a little nip of it?

[5:18] Bryan Plopsky: Anyway, I was drinking tea. I had a pot of tea. It's an Earl Grey and a Roybus. And then when I was like, wait a minute, I have to be on Broadwaysted. And so now I have a cider.

[5:32] Kevin Jaeger: Nice.

[5:33] Aaron J Albano: I just opened for myself a Cabernet Sauvignon.

[5:39] Hayley Podschun: So I'm gonna drink that. It's nice.

[5:41] Kevin Jaeger: Same. I liked my Cabernet Sauvignon so much last week that I'm drinking it again because I went to the liquor store in the middle of the week last week and bought the exact same kind. So we got some Three Thieves Cabernet Sauvignon again.

[5:56] Hayley Podschun: I love it.

[5:59] Kevin Jaeger: Some rosé because you know, whenever you need water to hydrate in these times, I feel like rosé is the adult water.

[6:09] Hayley Podschun: Sure.

[6:09] Bryan Plopsky: It's a summer time.

[6:11] Kimberly Cooper: Understood. Um, so obviously you're hanging out with Maisie. What else are you doing during your quarantine? How are you doing it? How you holding up?

[6:18] Hayley Podschun: So I told my parents I feel like I've been training my entire life for this moment because I'm an only child, and I'm doing very well. I know how to entertain myself, I know how to keep myself busy. I think yesterday, which was Sunday, was one of the first days I let myself like sit down. I've been trying to at least work out almost every day.

[6:43] Aaron J Albano: Sure.

[6:45] Hayley Podschun: Which I hate at home workouts, but Modo Yoga has saved my life with doing yoga from home. And I've got a puzzle, I'm coloring. What else? I'm dancing in a book, which I never read.

[6:59] Bryan Plopsky: You're dancing in your kitchen.

[7:01] Hayley Podschun: I'm definitely dancing in my kitchen. Um, well, I did just finish reading Jessica Simpson's autobiography. So now I'm on to Lady Diana's book. So I'm going through the women of important women of history.

[7:16] Kevin Jaeger: Sure, understood.

[7:17] Bryan Plopsky: Who's baby Diana?

[7:19] Hayley Podschun: Lady.

[7:20] Bryan Plopsky: I think you said baby Diana, and I was like, who is that?

[7:20] Hayley Podschun: Baby Diana.

[7:28] Bryan Plopsky: So on that note, she's British. Mary Poppins is British. Let's dive into this.

[7:34] Kevin Jaeger: So as everybody knows, we're kind of doing movie musical cinematic universes, sort of whatever.

[7:40] Bryan Plopsky: Yeah.

[7:40] Kevin Jaeger: Um, and this time we have the MPCU.

[7:46] Bryan Plopsky: The MPCU, the Mary Poppins Cinematic Universe. Um, and we chose three of those films. The original Mary Poppins from 1964, um, Saving Mr. Banks, the um, the bio, the true story, if you will.

[8:02] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, that's it, that's better.

[8:03] Bryan Plopsky: The dramatization of the true story of her involvement with it. Um, that's from 2013, and then la uh 2018's Mary Poppins Returns. Um, we are talking those three. You can find the first two. She's Mary Poppin' Lockin. Um, Mary Poppins party. Um, but we have uh so the first two you can find on Disney Plus and the third one you can find on Netflix currently. Um, we're gonna go through these in chronological order of when they came out. Um, but I guess uh yeah, when they came out, I was thinking chronologically no. They would be Mr. Banks would be last, but it wouldn't make sense anyway.

[8:39] Kevin Jaeger: Um, because the other two are fiction.

[8:41] Bryan Plopsky: Um, but let's just go around the horn quickly. Obviously, what everyone forget about what had your relationship with the movie this time you watched, but before you watched it, what is your generic relationship with Mary Poppins in general? So uh Kimberly, or Aaron, go first.

[8:58] Hayley Podschun: Oh, okay. Um, before this time and before a bunch of the other times, I think the first time I watched it was probably on like the Wonderful World of Disney, like Sunday night Disney movie, I feel like. Because I think I recorded it on my dad recorded it on like VCR so you could watch it again. And so there were all these commercial breaks. Um funny. I think that was probably when I watched it for the first time. When were those? In like the late 80s, early 90s?

[9:27] Aaron J Albano: Yeah.

[9:27] Hayley Podschun: They were like on and off. They were definitely in the 90s. I know they did them like earlier on. That was probably like 91, 92, like somewhere in there.

[9:34] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, and I don't feel like I have a very vivid memory of it, but I remember liking it, and I really because it was like in Technicolor and like it had musical numbers and it had yeah, it had cats.

[9:54] Kevin Jaeger: It was in Technicolor.

[9:55] Aaron J Albano: So Wizard of Oz had just come out and I was looking for something else in color.

[10:00] Hayley Podschun: What if I was like, I remember seeing it in the theaters.

[10:05] Kevin Jaeger: I was 35.

[10:06] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[10:08] Aaron J Albano: Picture it, 1964. I was 35 years old.

[10:13] Kevin Jaeger: Uh, but yeah, I remember liking it. I don't remember I remember because Julie Andrews, that was Julie Andrews's first movie. So, but I think at that point I had already seen Sound of Music.

[10:21] Bryan Plopsky: Right.

[10:29] Aaron J Albano: But that was only a year later in 65.

[10:32] Kevin Jaeger: No.

[10:32] Aaron J Albano: Oh, 65, 64.

[10:35] Kevin Jaeger: Yes.

[10:35] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, and it was. I don't think I realized that too. And the year she won the Oscar for Mary Poppins was the same year that My Fair Lady was nominated.

[10:44] Bryan Plopsky: Um, but she won the Oscar and and what's her name? Uh and wasn't even nominated for that.

[10:52] Kevin Jaeger: As we all know, she lost the role to her, even though she originated on Broadway, got Mary Poppins, and walked away and flew and umbrellaed away with the Oscar.

[11:00] Hayley Podschun: Oh, I'm reading her. Well, I'm sort of reading, I'm like listening to the audiobook of her recent biography, and she talks about it's called Homework by Julie Andrews. I'm not she talks about how like she was like she was she I think she had just finished filming like Mary Poppins and she's driving along next to Warner Brothers, where they're filming My Fair Lady, and she basically yells out of the window like a big without it's so funny hearing her reading it and like as prim and proper as Julie Andrews is basically throwing tons of shade at Warner Brothers for like not casting her in the movie.

[11:47] Kevin Jaeger: What's also interesting there is so I was just looking this up. She how old do you think? Without like without doing any research, how old do you think she was when she filmed the first Mary Poppins?

[11:56] Bryan Plopsky: Oh, I think I know this, so I can't imagine.

[11:59] Kevin Jaeger: She was 29, but the you know it's okay.

[12:02] Bryan Plopsky: Oh, because she already had a kid at this point, right?

[12:07] Hayley Podschun: Well, they postponed filming so she could have her child.

[12:10] Bryan Plopsky: Oh, that's that way she could.

[12:13] Kevin Jaeger: I know, but the waist how dare her have that waist after giving birth.

[12:19] Bryan Plopsky: Yeah, well, so Kevin, what's your relationship with Poppins?

[12:22] Kevin Jaeger: Uh, we have an open relationship.

[12:25] Bryan Plopsky: Okay, that's reading I had seen the original Mary Poppins when I was a little kid. My grandma had had all of the Disney movies on VHS and like those like fancy plastic containers.

[12:39] Hayley Podschun: The clamshells?

[12:39] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[12:40] Kevin Jaeger: So she had Mary Poppins, so that was there was like one night where we watched Mary Poppins and Bedknobs and Broomsticks and like back to back.

[12:48] Hayley Podschun: Sure.

[12:49] Kevin Jaeger: Um, yeah, so I loved it when I was a little kid. I found it kind of scary.

[12:53] Hayley Podschun: Sure.

[12:55] Kevin Jaeger: Um, just because like I don't know, I just thought some of those sequences were kind of scary.

[13:01] Hayley Podschun: I oh, because she killed all of those other nannies.

[13:07] Kevin Jaeger: She kind of did.

[13:08] Hayley Podschun: Not wrong.

[13:15] Bryan Plopsky: But my brother and I thought that the "Feed the Birds" song was really funny. Because when, like, the song is beautiful, but when they actually have the bird woman speak and she goes, "Feed the birds, don't be the bird." That's what she sounded like. So my brother and I spent like the entire rest of the night being like, "Feed the birds," sounding as stupid as possible. And so, like, whenever I hear that song, I always just giggle because that's like six-year-old and eight-year-old Bryan being like, "Feed the birds." Just to clarify, his brother is also named Bird.

[13:53] Hayley Podschun: Um, I grew up watching all the Disney movies ever, and honestly, thank God for Disney Plus, especially during this time, because it's kind of all I'm doing again. It's just watching every Disney movie, and I'm going back to the vault, as they like to say. I'm trying to watch all the oldies. Um, and I mean, I remember seeing "Victor/Victoria" on Broadway with St. Andrews, and that's Mary Poppins. Like, I didn't even think of her as—wait, I was in "Sound of Music." What's her name? Maria. Sure, sure. I didn't even think of her as Maria. I was like, "It's Mary Poppins." So this has been like—it's my childhood, it's my youth.

[14:36] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, for sure. Uh, Kimberly, what's your Mary Poppins relationship?

[14:41] Kimberly Cooper: I also don't remember the last—the first time I saw it because I used to watch "Sound of Music" all the time, so I think at some point it was just like either or, but it did take me a while to know that they were the same person because when I was little, I really bought into like the given circumstances of something, and I was like, "No one can be in two movies because they live there."

[15:00] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, yeah.

[15:01] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, fun. So I think the first time I was like, "Wait, what?" Yeah, yeah. It's also their nanny. She really corners the market on nannying in the '60s. Um, I also found it scary. The bankers are scary. Like, I don't really remember them because I think I used to fast forward or like cover my eyes.

[15:24] Hayley Podschun: Oh, yeah, there's a lot of stuff in this movie that I did not remember because I zoned out or fast forwarded when I was a kid for sure.

[15:32] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah. Um, and then "Mary Poppins" was my first ever West End show that I saw.

[15:37] Hayley Podschun: Oh, fun.

[15:38] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, beautiful. Yeah. And I saw the original company. So my relationship is very similar to everybody else's. I watched it as a kid. I loved it. I actually have more of a relationship to it when I was babysitting in high school because the kids I babysat for watched it over and over and over again.

[15:58] Hayley Podschun: Oh, were they good kids or monsters?

[16:00] Kimberly Cooper: They were good kids.

[16:01] Hayley Podschun: Okay.

[16:06] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[16:07] Kimberly Cooper: Um, but the crazy thing is that like I don't remember a lot of it because they would only pay attention to like the songs and the book scenes. So, like, I don't remember a lot of like—and even like the little in-between songs, like a lot of the diegetic stuff. Like, I don't remember at all. Um, I guess it's a—I guess most of it is diegetic, not all of it. Um, but um, yeah, so that's what it was. But um, so let's talk about the movie.

[16:30] Kimberly Cooper: What I will say is this movie is so much better as an adult.

[16:39] Hayley Podschun: Oh my God, yeah.

[16:40] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, for sure. It's so long.

[16:44] Hayley Podschun: It is long, but it still clips.

[16:46] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, yeah. There's also things that you don't realize that like it is sad what it's saying. It's like there's so much sadness in it, but like in like a beautiful way that like she comes and fixes—like I always literally never got it that she wasn't there for the kids. Like he was saying she was saving Mr. Banks.

[17:07] Hayley Podschun: No, but like I didn't really understand that until I watched it this time, like how much these parents need help, and like she's helping the whole family, and like there's so many moments that are just so deep. Like, even that like that scene, I didn't remember the scene between Bert and Mr. Banks where he—

[17:23] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, I know me too.

[17:26] Hayley Podschun: Where he's giving him like a—you can't say that because you were in it.

[17:29] Kimberly Cooper: No, I—well, no, but that's—I mean, that's what's really great about like because I had never watched—the last time I watched this movie was before I had seen "Saving Mr. Banks," and I just never went back. Like, and I remember after watching "Saving Mr. Banks," being like, "Oh, huh."

[17:52] Hayley Podschun: And seeing if like—and like initially watching this movie, I never connected that growing up, or even like even watching it before I did the show, I was like, "I guess we're changing that for the musical." Because in the musical, it's a lot clearer that she's there to put the family back together. But like I was like, "Okay, I guess we're just like making it our own."

[18:18] Hayley Podschun: Well, it's interesting because the movie starts almost from the parents' point of view and the housekeeper's point of view.

[18:25] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, right.

[18:26] Hayley Podschun: And then what's crazy about it is that like I, first of all, as a kid, there is no way I knew it was happening until Mary Poppins showed up.

[18:35] Kimberly Cooper: Absolutely no way.

[18:37] Hayley Podschun: It took me until like, oh God, probably—I mean, I'm gonna say over 10 years ago to be like, "Oh, a suffragette." I know what that is.

[18:46] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, I had no idea it was like a full song.

[18:49] Hayley Podschun: It's a full outfit and her smash. Uh, the costumes in this are spectacular.

[18:55] Kimberly Cooper: I remember like realizing though, like when I was learning about votes for women, I was like, "Oh, okay, so Mary Poppins happened in the '20s." Because that's when women got the vote, and then I had to be explained to me that England got it first.

[19:08] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[19:10] Kimberly Cooper: Um, and also starting them—one thing that I like, and I guess it's hard to—I like that as an audience member, it's only really the audience and Bert who see her go and leave, come and leave.

[19:25] Hayley Podschun: So like we're like seeing it through our own perspective, like no one else kind of sees her come and go, but like they're—you know that aspect of things.

[19:33] Hayley Podschun: Um, also I do not remember Bert talking to the camera, and then they never come back to it.

[19:39] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, you're right.

[19:40] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, we start it as like you're like, "Oh," because we start as like part of the group.

[19:45] Kimberly Cooper: That's what we—oh, we have video, so we can do it in front of it. He's like, "Do, but oh hey there, let me show you 17 Cherry Tree Lane," and like this is the Admiral.

[19:54] Kimberly Cooper: I don't understand this. Did anybody else look behind them to see if he was talking to someone else?

[20:02] Hayley Podschun: I was like, "What was intense?" I didn't expect that.

[20:08] Kimberly Cooper: And like I didn't remember that entire opening sequence of him singing and like talking to like the woman with like her giant daughters and stuff like that.

[20:17] Hayley Podschun: Like Corey, yeah, who is the character, I think.

[20:21] Kimberly Cooper: Is she in the musical?

[20:22] Hayley Podschun: In the musical, yeah.

[20:23] Kimberly Cooper: No, they did like from the books, they like shifted around a whole bunch of different like names. Corey and her giant daughters are like characters that are recurring characters in the actual Mary Poppins books. Did you ever read the books? Any of you read them?

[20:35] Hayley Podschun: No, I read the first one and the second one.

[20:39] Kimberly Cooper: I didn't—there's eight of them, so I didn't read all of them.

[20:41] Hayley Podschun: I think I owned the first one, but I don't remember reading it.

[20:45] Kimberly Cooper: I tried to because I wanted to pretend like I was a good actor before I did the show, and then I never finished it.

[20:50] Hayley Podschun: I'm pretty sure.

[20:53] Hayley Podschun: I don't read—there's three Jessica Simpson.

[20:56] Kimberly Cooper: Yes, there's three books that are like first book, second book, third book, and then the four—like the fourth through the eighth are like additional adventures from the first three books.

[21:09] Hayley Podschun: Oh, interesting.

[21:11] Kimberly Cooper: Did she write all—I'm assuming she wrote all of them and like no one else like took the mantle?

[21:16] Hayley Podschun: No, she wrote all of them, and she wrote them over like a 30 or 40 year period. So there were like breaks in between her writing them.

[21:23] Kimberly Cooper: When she wears her cool pink outfit at the end of the movie, and she's like—wait, there was a moment where is I in "Saving Private Banks"—we've been calling that all the years.

[21:33] Hayley Podschun: Um, "Saving Mr. Banks," when she wears that pink thing at the end, I'm like, "This is not 1910." Like, oh right, this is 19—this is 1963.

[21:44] Kimberly Cooper: Um, welcome to you the '60s.

[21:47] Hayley Podschun: Exactly. Um, I want that outfit. Something that I did want to talk through it with all of you is I guess let's talk about in terms of the Disney canon. Like these characters, like Mr. Banks, Mrs. Banks, even the kids, and you—the everyone is so flawed, and I feel like usually like characters one aren't flawed or they're flawed in a very specific way.

[21:59] Kimberly Cooper: And I feel like these are just very flawed people overall.

[22:14] Hayley Podschun: Um, especially like there's no one in this show who really is like a villain, and like Disney never has a problem with having a villain that they like make the flaws of, but yeah, to me, it doesn't seem like anybody is the villain.

[22:29] Bryan Plopsky: Agreed.

[22:30] Hayley Podschun: I mean the bank—so, but there's no individual villain. I find I think, and I think this is a huge one. This movie doesn't have a real plot, and I think that's why it works because we're just following the character development.

[22:43] Kimberly Cooper: If what Jay and I were talking about that today, the second one, we can talk about if it works or doesn't work, is it feels like a subpar Paddington movie because there's that bad guy who's like—what's the Paddington movie? Like in the new Paddington Bear movies are spectacular.

[22:59] Hayley Podschun: Anyway, but anyway, the second one has a villain. This one, um, society is the villain, and what society does to us is the villain, as opposed to an actual, like, "I'm going to steal your money." You know what I mean?

[23:12] Kimberly Cooper: There is a moment, but that happens. But like, because they're able to change them, like, I feel like that does also—Mary Poppins kills everyone in this movie.

[23:22] Hayley Podschun: He really is a murderer.

[23:23] Kimberly Cooper: She kills all the nannies in the end, is like, "Oh, he died, but he died laughing. Thanks, Mary."

[23:31] Hayley Podschun: They meant he really died. Did anybody else tear up when she—oh, when she comes down from the sky for the first time?

[23:37] Hayley Podschun: Yes, honestly.

[23:40] Kimberly Cooper: Good. Even when she's just bobbing in the clouds, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, she has to."

[23:44] Hayley Podschun: I had a first shot of her like doing like her face, and she's so beautiful, and I can't wait to watch this movie.

[23:50] Kimberly Cooper: And how she's so pretty.

[23:52] Hayley Podschun: When I got choked, she's so gorgeous.

[23:55] Kimberly Cooper: I was just about to say, like, she is like so arrestingly beautiful. When she's looking out the nursery window, like with her cute little bow tie, yeah, she's so pretty.

[24:06] Hayley Podschun: But also, like, I got really choked up more toward like the end, obviously, like when like the kids are crying, and she's like, "Your dad's calling you," and when a kid says, "It doesn't sound like our dad."

[24:17] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, I'm getting goose.

[24:18] Hayley Podschun: You can't—I'm getting goose right now.

[24:21] Kimberly Cooper: You can see them. It's like a knife to the chest just because it's like he doesn't know what his dad sounds like when he once is excited to speak to his kids.

[24:30] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[24:31] Kimberly Cooper: And oh yeah. This movie, I would argue that no movie pays off in spades like this one does at the end.

[24:38] Hayley Podschun: And that movie, I feel like wouldn't really be made to do that.

[24:42] Kimberly Cooper: No, no, it wasn't. We saw the movie they made today.

[24:45] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, we saw the movie that would be made today. Like that's that formula.

[24:49] Kimberly Cooper: I think an interesting thing to say because we watch "Saving Private Banks," "Saving Mr. Banks," is that I think the biggest reason the movie has as effective as it is still today is because she had a hand in creating it.

[25:03] Hayley Podschun: You mean P.L. Travers.

[25:06] Kimberly Cooper: The combination of Disney and the Disney people and the Sherman brothers and the Bradley Woodford—don't. But her keeping the like darkness.

[25:11] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[25:14] Kimberly Cooper: You think she's there for the children?

[25:16] Hayley Podschun: Oh, so good. Anyway.

[25:18] Kevin Jaeger: Kevin, you were gonna say something.

[25:20] Kevin Jaeger: Just that whole sequence, because especially like Mary Poppins is so vital to like these people's lives, but she gets no thank you.

[25:28] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[25:28] Kevin Jaeger: And she doesn't get a goodbye. Like then she doesn't ask for one.

[25:33] Hayley Podschun: No, and that's her—her like stoicness is just like that was one thing, like well, when we do the comparison, like Emily Blunt's character showed so much more warmth and heart, and like that, like I felt like there's something more powerful about the way that Julie Andrews' character just kind of like accepted it was time to go.

[25:52] Kimberly Cooper: Like, yeah, I also—something that I wrote down is what Julie Andrews does is she is vain, mean-spirited, as well as warm and charming all at the same time.

[26:05] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, whereas Emily Blunt's character is sometimes she's mean, sometimes she's nice, some—it's the spectrum, not all at once.

[26:12] Kevin Jaeger: And I'm gonna make the hot take argument right now that Julie Andrews winning the Oscar for "Mary Poppins" is arguably the best lead actress performance in the history of the Academy Award winners because that is—wow, she's doing everything here.

[26:32] Hayley Podschun: She is she's conveying so much at once, she's doing it through song and in scenes.

[26:37] Kevin Jaeger: Listen to this movie, make sure to tag nothing.

[26:41] Hayley Podschun: Because it also she it's not like she's she's not putting on like makeup to be like you know, this mean character or weight to be this type of character or this.

[26:49] Bryan Plopsky: It's not Nanny McPhee, yeah.

[26:52] Hayley Podschun: What about me, but what about Mina Cervino in Aphrodite?

[26:56] Kevin Jaeger: Mighty Aphrodite, sure, fair.

[26:58] Hayley Podschun: Um, but I don't know, there's something about this performance that is I could get on board with that when you can't put a finger on it.

[27:05] Bryan Plopsky: It's Julie Andrews, even when she the whole sequence with the mirrors and her being vain is just like that could come off so not great, and I don't think Emily Blunt fully pulls it off.

[27:15] Hayley Podschun: Um, and the amount and like I'm looking at my notes, sorry, there's a couple more of those.

[27:20] Hayley Podschun: Like she um she's rude to the kids. She's like, I did not win the race, you liars, but like she is also like, I don't know, there's something about her earnestness.

[27:30] Bryan Plopsky: My favorite thing about Mary Poppins in both the first and the second movie is she she is the most lovable character who openly gaslights all of the children.

[27:42] Hayley Podschun: That's exactly true.

[27:44] Bryan Plopsky: Don't be preposterous.

[27:45] Hayley Podschun: But like when she but when like at the at the end when she leaves and she's talking to her parent or parrot, yeah.

[27:52] Kevin Jaeger: That's that's a parrot on her own, right?

[27:54] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[27:55] Bryan Plopsky: She's talking to her parent, and she's and she's like, they don't even say goodbye, they don't even say thank you. They care about their dad more than they care about you, and she's like, as it should be, and with no like.

[28:06] Hayley Podschun: That's her job, yeah.

[28:08] Bryan Plopsky: Yeah, with no wink, with no nod, with nothing. She's just like, that's how it should be. I'm I'm good to be gonna going now.

[28:14] Hayley Podschun: So did you think I'm I'm gonna like ask you? Do you think that the um effects held up?

[28:21] Kevin Jaeger: Of the old one?

[28:23] Hayley Podschun: The old effects, do you think they held up in the original Mary Poppins movie?

[28:26] Hayley Podschun: There were a few times where I was like, oh, he's standing in front of like a drop or a screen, you know.

[28:33] Hayley Podschun: But like, I mean, even just the opening sequence itself of how it's animated, I do think it holds up.

[28:41] Hayley Podschun: If not, like I think that's what is so special about any Disney movie, is even though sometimes they are a little dated here and there, it's still so magical that it it doesn't take you out of it because it's it's one of a kind, and there's some special spark about all of their films that I really do find that they still hold up.

[29:05] Bryan Plopsky: That penguin segment is so good, it's perfect, and the way that it was even animated so that like when Dick Van Dyke is flipping his left foot in the air, the penguin is ducking under it.

[29:20] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[29:21] Hayley Podschun: Or even when they're riding the horses and he picks up the fox, and then they they crash, and the fox is like cradled in his hands. It's it's spectacular.

[29:30] Bryan Plopsky: It's so well done.

[29:31] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, it's so good.

[29:34] Hayley Podschun: Jay and I were saying that there needs to be a carousel ride at Disney World where like you're on a carousel for a little bit, but then it's a roller coaster and the horses.

[29:41] Bryan Plopsky: Oh, that's cool.

[29:49] Hayley Podschun: Also, when when the horses were going off of it and like as they were bouncing, the animation had them actually like cutting through the ground.

[29:56] Kevin Jaeger: Cutting through the grass, yeah.

[29:57] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, it's one of my most favorite things of that entire sequence. I don't know why, but it always has been.

[30:03] Hayley Podschun: The sequence was so lovely. I mean, uh, it's hard not to talk about Mary Poppins' returns when like it's just the sequence was so lovely, there was nothing like menacing about it.

[30:13] Bryan Plopsky: You know what I mean? It was just there wasn't a big bad wolf. Also, this movie has no action sequences, which is so delightful.

[30:19] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[30:20] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[30:21] Kevin Jaeger: I mean, I almost feel like the cartoon animated aspects of it are uh wait, what what was the word you just said?

[30:31] Hayley Podschun: Action sequences?

[30:33] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, I feel like the animated sequences are a little bit action-y just because I guess it in relative relative to the first one where like getting the kite in the wind was like this big number, like this big exciting thing, or obviously climbing the big Ben at the end was like very 2018. They need to climb something tall, so there's tension at the end of this film.

[30:55] Hayley Podschun: I didn't like that. That made me so nervous. Like we'll get into that. But um can we can we also talk about how misogynist the father was with lines like how clever of you?

[31:06] Kevin Jaeger: Oh no, the wife says, How clever of you? I would have muddled the whole thing, or Winifred, please don't be emotional. Ridiculous.

[31:14] Hayley Podschun: Well, you talk about Winifred singing voice.

[31:16] Kevin Jaeger: Sure.

[31:17] Hayley Podschun: Yes, Glenis.

[31:18] Kevin Jaeger: Wait, what's her name Glenn?

[31:19] Hayley Podschun: Glenn's John.

[31:20] Kevin Jaeger: Yes, uh like it's like I just have to like Bernadette, but like it's great, though.

[31:27] Hayley Podschun: But it's like it's the craziest, like strangled, um isn't she who Sandheim wrote Sending the Clowns for?

[31:36] Kevin Jaeger: She is.

[31:37] Hayley Podschun: I feel like the the movie itself, like the Mary Poppins lexicon gets Feed the Birds is always like the ballad of the century. But like can we talk about like the under what is it called when you like under the underestimated success of Stay Awake?

[31:57] Kevin Jaeger: Sure.

[31:58] Hayley Podschun: I did not remember this was in the movie.

[32:00] Bryan Plopsky: Huh?

[32:01] Hayley Podschun: I did not remember that was in the movie. Stay awake is such a beautiful lullaby that I forgot about.

[32:07] Kevin Jaeger: Right.

[32:08] Hayley Podschun: And this and it's a lullaby about like an ironic lullaby. Who is even so good? Who made that?

[32:15] Bryan Plopsky: Like it's so good.

[32:17] Hayley Podschun: The Sherman Brothers score, they won for it, and the music in this, just from beginning and end, it actually feels like a musical. It doesn't feel like we talked about Frozen last week, where like there's like it's just songs, that's it, as opposed to like, and the score filters into it, but like there's no closing number, there's no ending number, things like that.

[32:34] Kevin Jaeger: Right.

[32:34] Hayley Podschun: Um but this like this feels like a musical, like an actual musical.

[32:37] Kevin Jaeger: How old musicals were actually done, like with an overture, excuse me.

[32:43] Hayley Podschun: I thought of you, Kimberly.

[32:45] Kimberly Cooper: Because I love an overture.

[32:46] Hayley Podschun: Yeah. Even in the second one, when the overture started, I was just like, this is a really long intro, and then I was like, it's an overture.

[32:53] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, I got so disappointed in the second one because I forgot there was one because we I saw it with you and Jay in in in um Oh in St. Louis. It was a Christmas movie.

[33:00] Hayley Podschun: Um but um yeah, Kevin.

[33:04] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, um, did when you were a kid, did you also take medicine for your wet feet?

[33:11] Hayley Podschun: I did not.

[33:13] Kevin Jaeger: I did not.

[33:13] Hayley Podschun: I took medicine.

[33:14] Kevin Jaeger: What a question.

[33:15] Hayley Podschun: And did your mom's was it was your mom's a different color and taste like rum punch?

[33:19] Kevin Jaeger: Absolutely.

[33:20] Hayley Podschun: Oh god. Mommy's rum punch. And when I had to take like my Robotestin' or something, I was like, Yes, I I'm I'm knowing me, I probably did say it in an English accent to act. I was like, you have to put it in a spoon, you know.

[33:36] Kevin Jaeger: I think I did just try like find the biggest spoon we could. And I was like, put it in here, mother.

[33:41] Hayley Podschun: Those two were ginormous. Also, they were for children, and the children are heads are tiny.

[33:46] Kevin Jaeger: Yes, that's true.

[33:47] Hayley Podschun: Um, let's go around. What um, I guess let's talk about the end a little bit. Um, in terms of how it affected you, kind of did they earn it? What moment really got you the first time? Um, things like that.

[34:00] Hayley Podschun: Um, I don't think I ever remember that let's go fly a kite is the end.

[34:05] Kevin Jaeger: Sure.

[34:06] Hayley Podschun: I'm always just like, and the first thing they do is they go, let's go fly a kite. And then I'm like, oh no, that's when the dad realizes like every time watching it as an adult, that song just makes me cry.

[34:15] Hayley Podschun: Yeah. From the moment he shows he mended the kite, and the kids are like all of that. Just it's it's really, really sweet and poignant and has that like Disney magic feel to it, where like you know that like it's we're at like a really wonderful finale, like everyone's out together flying kites, and all these families are together and stuff like that.

[34:35] Bryan Plopsky: But yeah, I think it just it has that like Disney magic to it that just like you can't not smile when you watch the end of that movie.

[34:41] Hayley Podschun: I think something like that.

[34:42] Kevin Jaeger: I feel like it's like no, go for it, Aaron.

[34:44] Aaron J Albano: I feel like it's like a Disney Disney magic that like is definitely from another generation because I do every time even watching it now like again, because I know like I know that we fly a kite's the and I'm just like okay, he's he's the winds have changed, he's changed, she's about to go, but then she goes, and I'm just like, it's so abrupt every time because there's no like goodbye.

[35:10] Hayley Podschun: There's no closure, there's no like fixed song with a wave from the balcony.

[35:14] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, there's no there's none of that, which I love. That's like my favorite.

[35:17] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, but what I always have to remember.

[35:20] Aaron J Albano: It doesn't matter. It's almost like I have to remember that I love that. Because it's yeah, yeah, yeah.

[35:25] Hayley Podschun: It's so jarring because I'm so used to like modern storytelling that I'm like, oh, this is what made this movie so great is that this was different.

[35:34] Kevin Jaeger: It's the same reason I love Peter Pan.

[35:36] Hayley Podschun: I was just gonna say it's exactly like the Peter Pan said.

[35:40] Aaron J Albano: Yep.

[35:41] Hayley Podschun: I'm just like, oh, right, you you go and you grow up.

[35:44] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[35:45] Hayley Podschun: Also, fun fact in the actual Mary Poppins books, she tells the kids when she comes back each time that she'll stay until and there's a different thing every time.

[35:55] Aaron J Albano: Well, that yeah, yeah, because the second one in in returns, it was when the door opens. I'll stay until the door opens.

[35:59] Hayley Podschun: So it's the first one, it's I'll stay till the wind changes. The second book is I'll stay until the lock or until my locket chain breaks.

[36:08] Aaron J Albano: Yeah.

[36:08] Hayley Podschun: Because in the musical, it's the first act is that's the one changes. Second act is I'll stay until the chain breaks, and then that's how it happens.

[36:15] Kevin Jaeger: Interesting.

[36:17] Hayley Podschun: All right. I think what this movie does well is thematically, it's very consistent. Um the winds in the east is always there, but it doesn't feel like you're overwhelmed with it.

[36:27] Aaron J Albano: Um, like the the when the winds change, that type of stuff. Um, and and like the end with you know, the fact that you know the kite and the wind and all that stuff like filters into each other.

[36:38] Hayley Podschun: The kite is like this. I don't know, none of it feels like hit over your head thematically.

[36:43] Kevin Jaeger: No, not at all.

[36:44] Hayley Podschun: The use of metaphor is beautifully subtle.

[36:48] Aaron J Albano: It's almost just like this is how people speak.

[36:51] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, it's not a script, this is just how we speak.

[36:56] Aaron J Albano: And Aaron pointed this out in text when we were watching the movie, Julie Andrews is so brilliant in the laughing scene.

[37:03] Hayley Podschun: That's her best scene.

[37:08] Aaron J Albano: Like the way she serves tea, and like is just so annoyed with everything is so limited.

[37:12] Hayley Podschun: She invented the eye roll.

[37:14] Kevin Jaeger: I'm convinced Julie Andrews invented the eye roll in this film.

[37:16] Hayley Podschun: Invented it.

[37:18] Kevin Jaeger: Invented it.

[37:19] Hayley Podschun: But also that's the thing I love about this. Like she is this magical being, or or what however you interpret it, she creates magic around people, whatever the case may be. But I love how she doesn't participate in her own magic in an enjoyable way.

[37:33] Aaron J Albano: It's almost like she's annoyed by all the magic, or like her uncle is just like, God damn this magic. Like I like that.

[37:38] Hayley Podschun: And I think the kids' reactions and her and the father's reactions to all this and her manipulation of the father, like she's it's just it all just I don't know. It's these pieces you'd never think work together, and then they all just like fit into place.

[37:53] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, you would never think that this magical being of a woman who's supposed to bring harmony and goodness into these people's lives, hates doing it, you know.

[38:03] Hayley Podschun: Like yes, and she only she shows a little enjoyment when the kids aren't around when she's just like it's a jolly holiday with Bert.

[38:11] Aaron J Albano: Uh she loves Bert.

[38:12] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, and then she apparently um uh oh, was that in Saving Mr. Banks where she was like they cannot have a romantic relationship?

[38:20] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, right.

[38:21] Hayley Podschun: So then in returns, they were like, screw it, you can fall in love with El Emily Mortimer. Um good movie, good movie.

[38:31] Kevin Jaeger: Um, one last question about this one because we should move on to talk about the other stuff. Um, and I'm sure we'll talk about this one more when we talk about Mary Poppin's returns. But yeah, as a kid, did you have any idea that it was Dick Van Dyke also playing the banker?

[38:45] Hayley Podschun: No.

[38:46] Kevin Jaeger: No.

[38:47] Hayley Podschun: Yes.

[38:48] Aaron J Albano: Yes.

[38:48] Hayley Podschun: Not until like a year ago.

[38:53] Kevin Jaeger: And I was like, wait a minute.

[38:56] Hayley Podschun: I think I remember watching it and not knowing, and then watching the credits and then looking at it.

[39:01] Aaron J Albano: And then the bouncing.

[39:02] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[39:04] Kevin Jaeger: Also, I feel like maybe the first time I watched it, I wouldn't. I I truly don't know. I was so young when I watched it. Um, but I feel like I did know.

[39:17] Hayley Podschun: And I was very confused as to why he would play both parts.

[39:20] Kevin Jaeger: Like it didn't make sense to me, but I knew he was doing both.

[39:23] Hayley Podschun: Still doesn't make sense, but I would argue, I would argue that his performance as the banker is better than his performance as Bert.

[39:32] Kevin Jaeger: I agree.

[39:33] Hayley Podschun: I agree wholeheartedly.

[39:35] Bryan Plopsky: Um, all right, so let's talk a little bit about saving Mr. Banks. This came out in 2013.

[39:40] Bryan Plopsky: Um, it is about P.L. Travers coming to Los Angeles during trying to get Disney trying to get the rights from her to make the movie. They had already started pre-production. It stars Emma Thompson as Pam and Mrs. Travers. I can't, and then Tom Hanks as Walt Disney, and then you know a wonderful cast underneath them that includes Bradley Whitford, B.J. Novak, Jason Schwartzman, the list goes on. I for a second saw Jason Schwartzman and I was like, Gideon Glick? It probably would have been better with Gideon. Right? Let's start with Kevin on this one. Kevin does is not a Tom Hanks fan in general.

[40:31] Kevin Jaeger: I remember. So talk about an American? Like, that's our dad. Our dad has corona, Kevin, but he's feeling better.

[40:43] Kevin Jaeger: I just think that he's good. I just think that he's a little overrated. Because I think he's like Julia Roberts, who's like super charming, but not great.

[40:55] Bryan Plopsky: Yeah. Um, but I think he was great in this movie. I think this movie was good enough that it was one of those movies where I stopped thinking it was Emma Thompson and Tom Hanks, and actually was like it's Walt Disney and P.L. Travers. Okay. I thought their performances were great. The writing was great. Colin Farrell, who is always hot, was Colin Farrell is our best living actor currently, and I will dispute that till the day I die.

[41:21] Hayley Podschun: Oh, we can have many discussions about that.

[41:25] Kevin Jaeger: Absolutely. I feel like we should I should quote P.L. Travers or Emma Thompson from the movie and be like, um, he is not one of the greats.

[41:33] Bryan Plopsky: The great.

[41:35] Hayley Podschun: Oh, I would argue that he is one of the greats to look at.

[41:41] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, his performance in Bruges. I mean, like, they're very talented. I think people give him like the short end of the stick because they just think he's a hot face and don't think about how talented he is.

[41:52] Bryan Plopsky: So I think what like is feeding into what you're saying. I can't agree.

[42:01] Hayley Podschun: I will say he's definitely become like the forlorn dad of all these Disney movies, though.

[42:08] Kevin Jaeger: Because he's the dad in Dumbo, right?

[42:10] Hayley Podschun: Oh, that's what I'm like. I literally was like, wait, when does he lose his arm in this one? Oh, that's Dumbo, right? I have Dumbo in the same way.

[42:16] Kevin Jaeger: In the same way, James Marsden is like always the other guy.

[42:25] Hayley Podschun: Oh yeah, yeah.

[42:26] Kevin Jaeger: Colin Farrell's always the mess dad. James Marsden, Hollywood's hunk.

[42:33] Hayley Podschun: I love Mason Jimmy Marsden. But I do think of a sacred dear. I'm gonna keep naming movies that he's in as we'll take this movie is exceptional. I love the story. Wonderful. It is a I have cried the whole time. Yeah, it's just well the storytelling is brilliant. The like because we all love the original movie, like the subject matter is so fascinating. And this movie is so much more powerful when you watch them back to back.

[43:01] Kevin Jaeger: Agreed. Yeah, I watched this first and then Mary Poppins.

[43:05] Hayley Podschun: Oh, interesting. And so then, like I was watching Mary Poppins just like it isn't. I almost feel like you should watch Saving Mr. Banks first, then Mary Poppins, then Mary Poppins Returns. And like it's like a prologue before the movie.

[43:19] Bryan Plopsky: Yeah, that's totally fair. There's so much, there's so much fan service in Saving Mr. Banks.

[43:29] Hayley Podschun: Oh yeah. But when they like drive when Paul Giamatti drives her up to the Magic Kingdom, and he goes, Oh, it's him. Oh, when he freaks out over it's like when Coulson freaks out over Captain America, you know? Yeah, in there in front of the Mickey Head, and that train is coming behind him. I was just puzzling, rewatching it, and I was like, Like how iconic.

[43:55] Bryan Plopsky: One thing that I did notice, like this watch that I didn't want to learn before, is like where she like where sort of her like trauma begins in the movie. Yeah. Well, she gets to the because before she even gets to LA, we see the train going away in Australia. And I remember watching the movie, like in the theaters and being like, that looks like LA, not even putting it together because of all the palm trees and all the show. And I would just like, and only this time clocking into that and being like, oh, she's being triggered by the weather first, and then everything else falls into place. I was like, Oh yeah.

[44:40] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a smart movie.

[44:43] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah. It's a very well-made movie. I think that the whether or not you like some of the transitions from the past to the present. I think that the way that they line up thematically is just spectacular. And man, when she's watching and sobbing in the movie theater at the end, like they really, really, really shoulder. I can't. I cry every single time.

[45:07] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, that's so hard. See, see where I where it gets me, like that every time I've seen this movie many, many times, but every time that like the flashback scene where dad is where Colin Farrell is giving the speech for the bandit. And he's and he like asks her how old she is. Yeah, I'm like, yeah. Oh, and then he's like, give her a drink. When he says give her a drink, I gasp. I forgot. Yes, every time every single time.

[45:42] Kevin Jaeger: Colin Farrell is our great actor, living. We were saying one moment, Bryan, not the whole movie, one moment. That was so good. But then right before when he coughs into the handkerchief and it's bloody. And I just not going to end well.

[46:04] Hayley Podschun: Miami Vice, The New World. I'm gonna keep naming movies.

[46:12] Hayley Podschun: No.

[46:12] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, Minority Report.

[46:14] Hayley Podschun: Colin Farrell films.

[46:18] Bryan Plopsky: But yeah, I mean, I also love that like the scene where she walks into Walt Disney's office for the first time. You and they're even just starting with them arguing about what to call her, like my favorite thing, and whether you like Tom Hanks or you don't, you can it's very clear you're seeing two Titans sort of battling each other.

[46:43] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, and I also character-wise, I think that why Tom Hanks works in this multiple reasons. One, he's deployed this the perfect amount. This is her movie. Yes. Um, two, I think that you have this pre whether Kevin can not, Kevin or believes this or not, you have this preconceived notion that like Tom Hanks is our is our dad, is our is is this character. So like we also America's dad, but also like we think of Disney in this type of way as well. But what Tom Hanks is able to also bring this is like he's still a semi-smarmy salesperson because he is an entrepreneur, so like that I very similar to he's playing these things at the same exact time, which is very impressive, and in the small screen time, it doesn't, you're not overwhelmed by him, if that makes sense. Would you agree with that?

[47:31] Kevin Jaeger: The best part about that point is that is the scene where he's where she like charges into her off his office and he's smoking and puts it out and says, I don't like people seeing me smoke. Meanwhile, he's dying of lung cancer, which they have in here because he dies two years later coughing.

[47:47] Hayley Podschun: Can we also give like a quick shout out to like, well god, what's her I her last name leaves me, but Ruth Emma Thompson?

[47:54] Bryan Plopsky: Oh Ruth Wilson, Ruth Wilson as the wife, really, really great in some small.

[47:59] Kevin Jaeger: Oh yeah, she's great. No, I was a little so the scene where like the Oh my god, that's Ruth Wilson. Yeah. Holy crap.

[48:10] Hayley Podschun: The season as the banker is Dick Van Dyke. What the scene where Ruth Wilson, the mother character, is like standing in the daughter's bedroom door and says, like, I know you gave it to him, I know you love him more, like that whole thing. And then goes to kill herself. Yeah. She just walks into the water. And like the way that her like the daughter goes after her and kind of like wakes her up, and then she's like, Who wants to go ride a horse in the middle of the night though? That looks but then the image at the end of it. Sorry, just like her sobbing to her daughter and like something that you probably shouldn't do, like break down like that to your kid.

[48:56] Kevin Jaeger: Like exhausting role. Like, if you really think about the scenes that she had to film, she was Ruth Wilson or the kid?

[49:03] Hayley Podschun: Ruth, Ruth Wilson.

[49:05] Kevin Jaeger: Okay. That's an exhausting track.

[49:12] Hayley Podschun: So much work before you get on. Show up to that after you've been sitting in your trailer for a couple hours. Um, get your hair done, and then emote immediately. Right?

[49:30] Kevin Jaeger: Well, but even when like Emma Thompson's P.L. Travers like says when they're talking about her being a suffragette, and she's like, Why does she need a job? Why does she need a job? Sometimes women just aren't meant to be mothers. I was like, oh wow. Also, this movie, like when Rachel Griffiths comes in as the aunt, who like Mary Poppins is like based on, yeah, in any other movie that would have felt kitschy and gross, you know, where she says spit spot and like has the it it works so well because they set it up, and these are also her memories. This is not like this is how she remembers it as opposed to like this is what's actually happening.

[50:09] Bryan Plopsky: Like that sequence at the end with like the cutscenes when she's watching the movie, and you see her give her dad like the booze under the like under in his hand, like all of that is just like this is how she remembers it, and it's heartbreaking and wonderful all of the scene. But you've also kind of been waiting for that moment of like where does she get that idea of like swoop of sugar or spit spot or you know, whatever I mean. And when that finally happens, I feel like you've had this waiting, and then she says it, and you're like, Oh, there it is.

[50:40] Hayley Podschun: Oh my gosh. It's like a nice how much is she like her? And you want like, and the fact that so much of these come out, these like Easter eggs that come out, and you're like when she says, You said you'd fix everything. Oh like that's just like also like she like in writing Mary Poppins, like this is obviously, you know, the thank you without a thank you, and also like Mary Poppins the reason in the book, Mary Poppins is fixing everything, like it's just oh except she kills the next, yeah.

[51:13] Kevin Jaeger: And another shout out to Ruth Wilson. That scene right before she says you said you'd fix everything when she's sitting on the floor, just like crumpled up, and like Rachel Griffith is like kind of playing with her hair the way like a child would like comfort another child.

[51:28] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, yeah.

[51:29] Kevin Jaeger: And then like when they decide to let her go into the room because it's like scarier to not see him to like at least know like that's it's just so intense. Like Ruth Wilson does an incredible job of not only being memorable in such a small part, but also showing basing, even though she's crying and she has that hard track, everything is based in her love for the husband.

[51:50] Hayley Podschun: Yes, every choice, her going out to the outback with them, and like yes, obviously, there are different circumstances that women have in that era, I'm sure, especially in Australia or whatever the case may be, and also they felt like outsiders because she was married to an Irishman or whatever it is, yeah, where she's the Australian, just like all of that was just like really well baked in without being like, Well, I'm Australian, you know.

[52:17] Kevin Jaeger: Even when Colin falls off the stage after the speech, like you can tell in her performance that her like upsetness is not from being mad at him.

[52:29] Hayley Podschun: No, she's like so distraught that she can't help him.

[52:32] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, she can't like, how do you help him hurt more than angry? I think that was really important to see that. Like the daughter said, Sometimes people just can't be a mother. Like the mom's just emotionally couldn't handle what was happening to her, so she just didn't have time to be a mom.

[52:53] Aaron J Albano: But even just like the character development of her father, like not like he what he was a garbage father, but he wasn't a garbage father because he was a garbage father.

[53:03] Hayley Podschun: This is a great when she has her meltdown when they're singing the bank song, and she's like she leaves the scene being like, I can't let him down again, or whatever she says.

[53:16] Aaron J Albano: I'm like heartbroken. And that line could be so forced and obvious in a lot of people, but the way she does it is just so nuanced that like you believe she's talking to herself, like them, and it's just she's she's brilliant.

[53:32] Hayley Podschun: It was like it might this be my favorite favorite jump favorite movie of hers.

[53:36] Bryan Plopsky: This movie that's bold, Aaron.

[53:39] Kevin Jaeger: That is I'm sorry, Colin Farrell. Like we do have to give a shout out to the hair and makeup and wardrobe team of Snapchat.

[53:49] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, because it is perfection and it's not costumey, it just feels natural.

[53:56] Aaron J Albano: And I feel so curious. Yeah, and even the set design, I feel like it did a really good job, especially when they go back into the park for that day where he takes her in. Like having to, I don't know if they filmed it at the park and then had to digitally like make suffocal old art enhance, you know, like unenhance.

[54:17] Hayley Podschun: Probably stuff. Um, but I I love watching these types of movies for that reason of like historically his history design. Um I love that stuff.

[54:30] Aaron J Albano: Even the jello that she brings in.

[54:33] Hayley Podschun: Oh my god, everything the secretary brings and wears and does.

[54:36] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[54:37] Hayley Podschun: Also, I also just want to shout out, we haven't talked about him yet. John Lee Hancock, the director, who obviously did a wonderful job with this material.

[54:44] Bryan Plopsky: Yeah. Um, so I just want to do that. And then the um it was written by Kelly Marcel and Sue Smith. I think it's very clear that this was written by a woman or adapted by a woman, because it takes it for obvious reasons.

[55:07] Aaron J Albano: Telling a woman's story.

[55:09] Hayley Podschun: I agree.

[55:09] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah. Written by a man, Tom Hanks is a bigger part.

[55:13] Aaron J Albano: Oh, yeah. I would completely agree with that.

[55:16] Hayley Podschun: And she's 20 years younger and hot.

[55:20] Kevin Jaeger: And you don't get those nuanced lines.

[55:23] Aaron J Albano: As Walt Disney, and it would be a mess.

[55:25] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, and without without a female writer, you don't get those nuanced lines like when Walt Disney asks his secretary, like to explain P. L. Travers to him, and she's just because I'm a woman doesn't mean that I can understand blanketly every woman.

[55:41] Kevin Jaeger: Like so good. I love that. But and the whole thing of men ask, like that's the thing men think, and like for a woman to like kind of shut him down.

[55:49] Aaron J Albano: Like I like Kevin surrounded by yeah.

[55:53] Hayley Podschun: He was surrounded by strong women every.

[55:56] Bryan Plopsky: And that was really, really powerful to show.

[56:01] Aaron J Albano: Yeah. Let's let's move off of this one just a little bit because we do need to talk about the return of Mary Poppins.

[56:07] Hayley Podschun: Yes.

[56:08] Bryan Plopsky: Um, I guess let's go around and just one sentence if you had seen it before and what your thoughts are of it overall.

[56:15] Hayley Podschun: I'll I'm happy to start. I saw it in the movie theater with Kimberly and Jay over Christmas two years ago. And Jay's mom.

[56:22] Bryan Plopsky: But long story short, I found the movie I enjoyed it more as a movie this time.

[56:27] Hayley Podschun: I enjoyed it way less as a Mary Poppins ver a version of Mary Poppins.

[56:33] Bryan Plopsky: I think it is a I think it is fine.

[56:36] Hayley Podschun: Yeah. Everything is almost there.

[56:40] Aaron J Albano: Like all of it for some reason is almost perfect.

[56:43] Hayley Podschun: And then it's just missing a little something and then they give you like let's go fly a kite in the background of a song.

[56:50] Bryan Plopsky: They're just like that's what it was missing.

[56:56] Hayley Podschun: I I had never seen this movie before and I watched it uh last night and I felt like it was like a manic feverish version of the original movie.

[57:06] Aaron J Albano: Mm-hmm because it was very similar to the original movie in their format, but it just everything was just like so like then we're doing this.

[57:06] Hayley Podschun: Then we're doing this. Like there was no time to breathe in this movie, which I think was what really kind of left it unable to like be related to by like the audience to the characters.

[57:25] Aaron J Albano: I remember oh go ahead go out Ellie okay um I saw the movie when it came out on a screener two years ago.

[57:32] Hayley Podschun: So I watched it at home. I didn't watch it on a big screen and it had been some time in between when I last saw original Mary Poppins to this.

[57:44] Aaron J Albano: And so for me, watching Mary Poppins Returns was like this beautiful gift of movie musicals and magic and animation that I, as like my childhood inside of me, like loves.

[58:01] Hayley Podschun: Um I also misunderstood the assignment I have. We were watching all of them tonight together.

[58:10] Aaron J Albano: So I have to like really dig back into my vault to remember kind of what happened.

[58:16] Hayley Podschun: Um, but I will say when that bathtub scene happened, I just was like, oh my gosh.

[58:24] Aaron J Albano: Like I still think about Nike, I get so excited.

[58:27] Hayley Podschun: Um so I would like to re-watch it again now going back to cue it up.

[58:36] Aaron J Albano: But um, I really liked it, and I thought Emma uh Emily Blunt did a good job, but now that we've talked about it, I mean no one will ever talk.

[58:45] Hayley Podschun: It's so hard.

[58:46] Aaron J Albano: It's so hard.

[58:49] Hayley Podschun: She does an admirable job, you know.

[58:51] Aaron J Albano: Any woman who died, she did a great job, but I really enjoyed it anytime that they can bring musical, like music and dance to the screen.

[59:01] Hayley Podschun: And for me, anything with like fun colors and fun costumes.

[59:04] Aaron J Albano: Um, I watched it like when the when it came out in theaters.

[59:07] Hayley Podschun: I watched it with my friend Brett Martinez um in Fort Lauderdale because I had just rejoined the tour.

[59:12] Aaron J Albano: And um I was super excited for it because of my history with the show.

[59:17] Hayley Podschun: And so I really was excited to see it.

[59:19] Kevin Jaeger: And I think when I watched it, I enjoyed it.

[59:23] Hayley Podschun: It's one of those I could see what they were doing where I they were trying to make a Mary Poppins for this generation of kid.

[59:32] Aaron J Albano: And I think they did a passable job, but I also think that it was a little bit more difficult only because you could tell they were following a formula, and storytelling is just different now.

[59:46] Hayley Podschun: Like the difference. Because I just watched Frozen 2 the other night and I did not like Frozen 1 at all.

[59:57] Aaron J Albano: Oh, interesting.

[59:58] Hayley Podschun: Hated it. And I was like, ugh, I guess I'm in quarantine. What else am I gonna do? So I'll watch Frozen 2.

[1:00:04] Aaron J Albano: And there were parts of basically huge parts throughout Frozen 2 where I was like, that's literally the same notes in certain songs.

[1:00:12] Hayley Podschun: And you have um uh I don't even know the songs of Frozen One, but you've got that particular song that Anna sings with that mean guy, like in the same time where it happened in Frozen 2, like everything was exactly copy paste, copy paste versus Mary Poppins Returns.

[1:00:29] Aaron J Albano: Like, I feel like they did little nods here and there, but they made it their own.

[1:00:34] Hayley Podschun: Whoa, yeah.

[1:00:36] Aaron J Albano: I would also characters from the books, like they were mining more stories from the actual books.

[1:00:41] Hayley Podschun: Sure, and there's actually a book behind Mary Poppins instead of Frozen was like Topsy Turby is like a character in the books, and like I love the Topsy Turvy stuff, but there's definitely like that, like the bull song is definitely the Jolly Holiday song, like oh yeah, but that's later song is definitely step in time, and yeah, like yes, balloon song is definitely like the whole thing.

[1:01:07] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, uh for sure. It's it's it's almost difficult to watch it right after watching the first one.

[1:01:14] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, also it would be jarring, yeah, because I did it today, back to back.

[1:01:19] Aaron J Albano: Also, there's I the the fact that there is a plot on this is weird, and it like again, I said it earlier.

[1:01:25] Hayley Podschun: Like the fact that there is a bad guy and they're trying to like find the like bank certificate is just very weird.

[1:01:32] Aaron J Albano: It it absolutely loses the charm of the first one, I would even argue is the dynamic between Mary Poppins and the father, and that's just not here at all.

[1:01:47] Hayley Podschun: Ben Wish.

[1:01:48] Aaron J Albano: Yeah, Ben was I think he's fantastic in this movie.

[1:01:52] Hayley Podschun: But his journey is different than George Banks is.

[1:01:55] Aaron J Albano: And this the the opening of this movie is super solid because there's a dead mom.

[1:02:04] Hayley Podschun: But fun fact, I well, just fun little tidbit here. I want to say that I do think the casting in this was spectacular.

[1:02:10] Aaron J Albano: Absolutely.

[1:02:12] Hayley Podschun: I also think that like Lynn Manuel is like the like everybody's favorite person the way that Dick Van Dyke was at the time.

[1:02:19] Aaron J Albano: He's the time first show.

[1:02:21] Hayley Podschun: He's a very solid choice in this, and he does a great job.

[1:02:24] Aaron J Albano: Like we said, his accent's not great, but like it doesn't need to be.

[1:02:28] Hayley Podschun: His performance is great.

[1:02:29] Aaron J Albano: He danced way more than I expected him to.

[1:02:31] Hayley Podschun: He nailed it.

[1:02:32] Aaron J Albano: Yeah. I think honestly, Emily Blunt is one of the only people that could take on this job, this job and do it this well.

[1:02:39] Hayley Podschun: Um I also doing research, I was like, so Angela Lansbury's in this movie at the end, and it's like such a random, but like very like like very like pronounced cameo.

[1:02:50] Aaron J Albano: Yes.

[1:02:50] Hayley Podschun: So I was like, why is this not Julie Andrews?

[1:02:53] Aaron J Albano: So I researched, and apparently they offered Julie Andrews a cameo most likely to play the balloon lady, who is a character from the books, but who is an old friend of Mary Poppins the way that it was in the movie, but Julie Andrews didn't said no, saying, I don't want to take away from what Emily's doing.

[1:03:12] Hayley Podschun: I want this to be Emily's movie.

[1:03:14] Aaron J Albano: Which I like, but also like secretly, I'm like, sit in the chair and give a balloon away.

[1:03:21] Hayley Podschun: But like that was talking about his return of Julie Andrews more than what like she would have overshadowed Evan Black.

[1:03:27] Aaron J Albano: But what yes, 100%.

[1:03:29] Hayley Podschun: I mean, I think it would have been a good moment of her passing the torch to Emily.

[1:03:35] Aaron J Albano: Not at the end.

[1:03:37] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[1:03:39] Aaron J Albano: Because you're like, oh, remember her.

[1:03:47] Hayley Podschun: Like everybody looking into the balloon and seeing herself, like that would have been.

[1:03:51] Aaron J Albano: Oh, I okay, okay, sure, sure, sure.

[1:03:52] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[1:03:53] Aaron J Albano: My least favorite part of the movie of this Mary Poppins Returns was Dick Van Dyke's cameo.

[1:04:00] Hayley Podschun: Oh, interesting.

[1:04:03] Aaron J Albano: Why?

[1:04:04] Hayley Podschun: Because it was so nonsensical because like he suddenly drops his cane and is just dancing and climbing on the table.

[1:04:12] Aaron J Albano: And like, even to the fact that like Lynn Manuel like picks the kite off the table because he knows he's gonna climb up there.

[1:04:18] Hayley Podschun: Like everything that's not it was.

[1:04:21] Aaron J Albano: Wait, were you just upset of of the story script and direction of that?

[1:04:27] Hayley Podschun: Were you upset that it was Dick Van Dyke doing it?

[1:04:29] Aaron J Albano: No, I love that Dick Van Dyke was coming back.

[1:04:31] Hayley Podschun: It was the way they used him.

[1:04:33] Aaron J Albano: Sure.

[1:04:33] Hayley Podschun: It just seems so like forced the banker.

[1:04:38] Aaron J Albano: It felt like there was a box around that scene.

[1:04:40] Hayley Podschun: Correct.

[1:04:41] Aaron J Albano: Yeah. That's just it didn't seem to fit with the rest of the movie.

[1:04:45] Hayley Podschun: I didn't care.

[1:04:46] Aaron J Albano: I wanted it.

[1:04:46] Hayley Podschun: I know.

[1:04:47] Aaron J Albano: I loved it.

[1:04:48] Hayley Podschun: To be fair, I loved it.

[1:04:50] Aaron J Albano: So I but I understand what you're saying.

[1:04:52] Hayley Podschun: They had already established the audience.

[1:04:52] Aaron J Albano: No, but they had already established that Lynn Manuel's character knows Bert and takes care of him.

[1:04:57] Hayley Podschun: So like we could have had a really sweet moment where like Emily Blunt's character sees Bert and talks to Bert.

[1:05:04] Aaron J Albano: And that could have been like a really lovely, kind of like nice moment.

[1:05:08] Hayley Podschun: That's how I would have used him.

[1:05:09] Aaron J Albano: Bert's traveling the world battleing the current Bert.

[1:05:12] Hayley Podschun: That would be my other question.

[1:05:16] Aaron J Albano: Did Mike Michael got his money back, right?

[1:05:19] Hayley Podschun: And some.

[1:05:21] Aaron J Albano: Yes.

[1:05:21] Hayley Podschun: No, but did he ever actually give it to his dad?

[1:05:25] Aaron J Albano: He does in the movie, right? Like that.

[1:05:26] Hayley Podschun: I was like, is there a question?

[1:05:29] Aaron J Albano: Michael takes this tuppens to the bank, gives it to the old guy, and then takes it out of the old guy's hand and runs away.

[1:05:36] Hayley Podschun: Yes.

[1:05:37] Aaron J Albano: So do we really does he ever and he does.

[1:05:40] Hayley Podschun: So after after the after the Bert um George scene, Michael and Jane come to him and be like, we were gonna give these to feed the birds, but we wanted to give them to you instead.

[1:05:51] Aaron J Albano: Yeah.

[1:05:51] Hayley Podschun: And that's when okay.

[1:05:54] Aaron J Albano: That's the Michael, where I was like, ugh.

[1:05:57] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[1:05:57] Aaron J Albano: That's what Michael gave his dad the topic.

[1:06:00] Hayley Podschun: Why wouldn't he know?

[1:06:01] Aaron J Albano: First of all, his dad was an asshole then.

[1:06:03] Hayley Podschun: If he didn't A, tell him you have this bank account that's making a lot of money, and B, take this share thing in case you ever need it.

[1:06:10] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, it doesn't. Well he did do that. He just he's an artist and he's sad, and so he misplaced it. Yeah, I just watched the beginning of this movie and he looked at me and he goes, I'm worried that's what will happen to me if you go first. And I was just like um the pressure. Oh don't draw on the back of your chairs. I know. But I'll leave you lists. This movie definitely had action sequences.

[1:06:37] Kevin Jaeger: Yes, yeah, yes. There's the fact that he had to climb the tower, and there was no joke about how she could just do it in two seconds was crazy.

[1:06:45] Hayley Podschun: That just so comfortable. I do not like heights. I'm like very terrified of heights.

[1:06:48] Aaron J Albano: Oh, I couldn't watch it in theater. That was like really difficult to watch. I almost fast forwarded because I just couldn't handle Lin-Manuel walking out on that ladder. Like I was just like, nope, nope, nope.

[1:07:00] Kevin Jaeger: One thing, one thing that really got to me the first time I saw it, and I tried to like get over it this time, but I couldn't, like the bikes in "Trip a Little Light Fantastic."

[1:07:09] Hayley Podschun: The BMX bikes.

[1:07:10] Kevin Jaeger: It didn't bother me a little color.

[1:07:13] Hayley Podschun: It really pulled me out of it. It really did. And I didn't want to because I think it's super cool and fun.

[1:07:18] Aaron J Albano: But I will.

[1:07:26] Hayley Podschun: Oh, I love that. "A Cover is Not the Book" is my favorite number in this.

[1:07:29] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, but I'm just like, because I was paying attention to this as well. I was like, is it just because it's Lin that I think that it sounds like a Lin rap?

[1:07:36] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[1:07:37] Kevin Jaeger: Or is it just and it's just like it?

[1:07:40] Aaron J Albano: Let me put this all that like internal rhyme. I'm like, that's what makes it sound like a Lin rap.

[1:07:45] Hayley Podschun: Aaron, you don't know what Lin's lyrics are like. Stop that up.

[1:07:49] Kevin Jaeger: There was a part when that did start where I was like, okay, we know that you do this.

[1:07:55] Hayley Podschun: Like it's also crazy because "A Cover is Not the Book" is having Mary do this whole performance, and like that's not what she does in the first.

[1:08:08] Aaron J Albano: Emily Blunt for Sally Bowles.

[1:08:10] Hayley Podschun: Oh yeah. She's gonna be great. I did zero like in like research on this, but like was I I took that as like them showing the different that it's a different time period than it is the first movie.

[1:08:25] Kevin Jaeger: Sure.

[1:08:25] Hayley Podschun: Like, cause that that it's more 30s, so therefore all of the music and all of the imagery was a little more 30.

[1:08:31] Kevin Jaeger: I have a question. Did anybody find it weird that the final song had nothing to do with the theme of the whole thing?

[1:08:40] Hayley Podschun: I really hated the last song.

[1:08:42] Kevin Jaeger: I really hated that song, the "Nowhere to Go But Up."

[1:08:46] Hayley Podschun: Let's go.

[1:08:46] Kevin Jaeger: The balloon song. I hated that song.

[1:08:48] Hayley Podschun: Because the whole point of the first one was the theme was "Winds in the East," she'll leave when the wind changes, they're flying the kite. It's so beautiful.

[1:08:56] Kevin Jaeger: This one is like as soon as the door opens, the plot is surrounding the house, and like at least they had that.

[1:09:01] Hayley Podschun: And then the last song should have been like, you know, we're opening doors. Look at this door.

[1:09:05] Kevin Jaeger: No, no, no, no, we're a happy family.

[1:09:08] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, opening the yeah, but like, I don't know. It just thematically was like, let's go back to the park to copy the first one, as opposed to let's stick with the themes of this one. I hated that song so much.

[1:09:23] Kevin Jaeger: Also, was the fair always supposed to happen? Did they just happen to solve the problem the day of the fair?

[1:09:28] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[1:09:29] Kevin Jaeger: I don't know.

[1:09:33] Hayley Podschun: Also, fun fact, P.L. Travers had it in her last will and testament that there would never ever be allowed to be any other movie adaptation of Mary Poppins ever.

[1:09:45] Kevin Jaeger: And I don't know what they legally went through to make this happen, but like she died like not too long ago, like in the past like 20 or something years, and she was like very adamant that like she literally was so angry about how much she hated the first movie in 1996.

[1:10:01] Hayley Podschun: That the biggest thing in her will was no one is allowed to do this movie or any other version of a movie of Mary Poppins ever.

[1:10:09] Kevin Jaeger: So I don't know what Disney did to make this happen. There had to have been a loophole, or when were these written?

[1:10:13] Hayley Podschun: Was there a hundred?

[1:10:14] Kevin Jaeger: Or it was her estate.

[1:10:16] Hayley Podschun: I agree with that. I think her estate like signed off on them or something.

[1:10:22] Kevin Jaeger: Because when she agreed to allow Cameron Mackintosh to make a musical, the one stipulation was that no American was allowed to have any hand in writing the show at all because she was still angry at Americans because of what Walt Disney did.

[1:10:35] Hayley Podschun: And no one from the original movie, especially the Sherman Brothers, were allowed to have any hand or creativity.

[1:10:42] Kevin Jaeger: The Sherman Brothers score is so bad.

[1:10:43] Hayley Podschun: But it's so that's why like George Stiles and like Anthony Drewe like basically copied their style and were like Cameron Mackintosh finally got her to allow them to use the original songs from the movie, but she danced to it with them.

[1:11:00] Kevin Jaeger: She was like, you're not in real life.

[1:11:03] Hayley Podschun: It makes me sad that someone who ended up sharing such a joyous story with the entire world, yeah, can't recognize that and then puts the ban on it forever.

[1:11:20] Kevin Jaeger: Like she basically puts a ban on happiness, yeah.

[1:11:24] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, I mean, I don't get it. She was probably a very complicated person, even more so than the movie portrays.

[1:11:31] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, I loved the last part. I know we're going back, but I love the last part of the saving Mrs. Banks or Mr. Banks, where they like played the actual recording of her.

[1:11:40] Hayley Podschun: Oh, I love that.

[1:11:43] Kevin Jaeger: So cool.

[1:11:47] Hayley Podschun: Wait, is that yeah, and over the credits?

[1:11:47] Kevin Jaeger: I should watch it.

[1:11:52] Hayley Podschun: Talking about the Sherman Brothers tour, can we talk about how what is it about feeding the fucking birds that makes me cry every time?

[1:12:04] Kevin Jaeger: Every time a kite.

[1:12:07] Hayley Podschun: They all look like it's a big thing.

[1:12:08] Kevin Jaeger: Go fly a kite. I'm in tears.

[1:12:13] Hayley Podschun: Every single one.

[1:12:14] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, it's like maybe from Annie.

[1:12:18] Hayley Podschun: Just every time.

[1:12:21] Kevin Jaeger: Especially when they're.

[1:12:22] Hayley Podschun: They will just always bring it back at like the emotional climax of these movies.

[1:12:27] Aaron J Albano: What'd you say, Kevin?

[1:12:28] Kevin Jaeger: Especially the bridge when it starts with the all around the cathedral.

[1:12:33] Hayley Podschun: Yeah.

[1:12:35] Kevin Jaeger: I start you start to feel it.

[1:12:36] Hayley Podschun: And that's where they usually start. And like when they were doing it, like the underscoring for David Mr. Banks, like they would start there and play it through.

[1:12:44] Hayley Podschun: And it is because something about it becomes so grand, but because she's singing about something so simple that most people wouldn't even notice.

[1:12:50] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[1:12:51] Hayley Podschun: That's that's a big difference between the first movie and the second movie. The first movie songs are simple and they're thematic, and they're that you have to read between the lines to really understand what they're doing.

[1:13:01] Kevin Jaeger: This one is just like they just like took supercalifragilistic and like nonsense words and like went with it.

[1:13:08] Hayley Podschun: Like made something like what does "Trip a Little Light Fantastic" actually mean, but I know what "Step in Time" means.

[1:13:13] Kevin Jaeger: And right the writing team that did the second movie, they're brilliant.

[1:13:18] Hayley Podschun: Yeah, like they're no knock on them in general.

[1:13:20] Kevin Jaeger: No, they're incredibly brilliant, but you can tell that their hands were tied a bit to be like we need these to sound like the style of the Sherman Brothers.

[1:13:29] Hayley Podschun: They were made to sing with someone else's voice.

[1:13:31] Kevin Jaeger: Yes, and that never works that way.

[1:13:33] Hayley Podschun: It shows that the music never gets that full like magic sparkle to it that the original had because it's people writing like someone else's voice.

[1:13:42] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, I would argue I argue that that's the same thing as the musical. Like when you are forced to write in someone else's style, you're not speaking with your own voice.

[1:13:52] Hayley Podschun: And it's not.

[1:13:53] Kevin Jaeger: No, you're not being artistic.

[1:13:55] Hayley Podschun: I will say though, I wanted them to sing "I'm Practically Perfect."

[1:14:01] Aaron J Albano: So to um wrap all this up, what I'd love for us to do is just go around and say one of your favorite things, like small little things from any of these three movies, or one from each one. Mine is easy.

[1:14:12] Hayley Podschun: It is her bow ties.

[1:14:15] Kevin Jaeger: Great.

[1:14:15] Hayley Podschun: Her tiny little velvet bow tie. And then Emily Blunt has a slightly bigger bow tie with polka dots and a striped shirt.

[1:14:23] Kevin Jaeger: Love a mixed pattern.

[1:14:25] Hayley Podschun: Yes.

[1:14:26] Kevin Jaeger: There we go.

[1:14:28] Hayley Podschun: Um my initial thought when you said that was Julie Andrews of how she goes up and down the stairs riding on the banister.

[1:14:39] Kevin Jaeger: And I would try that as a child all the time.

[1:14:44] Hayley Podschun: I'm able to try to do that. So there you go.

[1:14:49] Kevin Jaeger: Cool.

[1:14:49] Aaron J Albano: I would say, oh, I would say my first.

[1:14:52] Kevin Jaeger: No, I said I said Kevin.

[1:14:57] Aaron J Albano: I would say that mine is really like the in all three movies, there is like a driving force that is a complex layered female who is not driven by a romantic love interest.

[1:15:13] Kevin Jaeger: And I think that there's something really powerful in that to like examine a female character in movies that were made in like three different distinct kind of time periods.

[1:15:24] Aaron J Albano: 2013, 2018 are totally different, but like a lot happened between that to like change a lot, like what we look at with women's stories, and I think it's really powerful that in all three of them, there is a central female character who is strong and complicated and complex in the best way possible.

[1:15:41] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, follow that, Aaron.

[1:15:44] Aaron J Albano: I don't know if I can.

[1:15:46] Aaron J Albano: Um I hate that. I like balloons.

[1:15:52] Kevin Jaeger: I'm a little mad that this from the last movie, but the first thing that I thought of when you gave that prompt was the moment where adult Jane and Michael see Mary Poppins for the first time.

[1:16:07] Hayley Podschun: Sure.

[1:16:08] Kevin Jaeger: Because you see them, you see all the history that those characters have with this with Mary.

[1:16:19] Hayley Podschun: Sure.

[1:16:19] Kevin Jaeger: Like all on their faces, and you and because you basically grew up with them, and you have this relationship with Mary also.

[1:16:29] Aaron J Albano: And I yeah, every time I watch that scene, I get the cleft every time. It's the best.

[1:16:40] Hayley Podschun: Um I have a second one, which is when at the end and she leaves and he goes, it was all real.

[1:16:45] Kevin Jaeger: All of those adventures with Mary Poppins, they were real at the end.

[1:16:50] Hayley Podschun: I like that one too.

[1:16:52] Bryan Plopsky: I love when they jump into the chalk and there's the technology there's the multicolored dust that comes up from the sidewalk.

[1:17:01] Kevin Jaeger: Yes.

[1:17:02] Bryan Plopsky: I love that so much. And I I rewound it just to like watch it a second time, then jump in.

[1:17:08] Kevin Jaeger: Are you sure that you don't want to say that your favorite part is Colin Farrell's incredible performance?

[1:17:15] Bryan Plopsky: Listen, that's not a small thing, Kevin.

[1:17:21] Kevin Jaeger: You heard it here first. Colin Farrell is the greatest actor of our time.

[1:17:29] Bryan Plopsky: Thank you all for joining us. You can follow us at Broadwaysted. You can follow Aaron at Aaron J Albano. You can follow Hayley at Hayley Podschun. You can find us on the Broadway Podcast Network, bpn.fm backslash Broadwaysted.

[1:17:42] Kevin Jaeger: Hey, that's us.

[1:17:44] Bryan Plopsky: You can uh join our Facebook group. We're gonna be doing so much more content for you while we're all propped inside. Um Hayley and Aaron, thank you so much.

[1:17:54] Hayley Podschun: Thank you so much.

[1:17:57] Bryan Plopsky: Thank you so much for joining us. And uh we end every episode with a quote.

[1:18:01] Kevin Jaeger: When did we start doing that?

[1:18:05] Bryan Plopsky: I I need to take your advice and like just go right into it.

[1:18:08] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, just keep going.

[1:18:09] Bryan Plopsky: Um, oh, oh, let me try it again. I'll I'll I'll try it again.

[1:18:13] Kevin Jaeger: And then you're gonna go, oh, oh, it's magic.

[1:18:16] Bryan Plopsky: Yeah, I know, right? Oh, oh, oh, let's go fly a kite up to the highest height. Let's go fly a kite and send it soaring up through the atmosphere, up where the air is clear.

[1:18:25] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, oh, oh, let's go fly a kite.

[1:18:27] Hayley Podschun: I believe proper English would be let us go fly.

[1:18:30] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, I love that.

[1:18:33] Hayley Podschun: Oh no, that doesn't work.

[1:18:34] Kevin Jaeger: And oh no, that doesn't work.

[1:18:36] Bryan Plopsky: Um, but uh again, uh you can follow us on Twitter, all that. You will keep you updated on what we're doing, what you can watch, where you can find everything that we're watching. We're really trying to select um pieces that you can find in your home very easily.

[1:18:49] Kevin Jaeger: What should we do next?

[1:18:50] Bryan Plopsky: I don't know. There's so much, but um, as we raise a glass, we thank you so much, and we say zoo.

[1:19:00] Kevin Jaeger: This is so hard on this.

[1:19:01] All: Cheers.

[1:19:02] Bryan Plopsky: Cheers.

[1:19:03] All: Bye.

[1:19:03] Bryan Plopsky: Thanks, everybody. Stay safe, stay healthy.