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[0:20] Bryan Plofsky: Hello and welcome to the visual Broadwaysted podcast where we're drunk on theater. I'm your host, Bryan Plofsky, and the whole being dead thing is no reason to say ready set, not yet. If you're a Barbara 2.0 or a Girl Scout, then that beautiful sound is home. What I know now is that if you love a good old-fashioned wedding, then day oh, do we have the fright of their lives? Joining us today are the usual invisible creepy old guys, including Kevin, Dead Mom Jager.

[0:49] Kevin Jager: Okay, good, because I was afraid I was gonna be the creepy old guy, and I was not gonna have that one.

[0:54] Bryan Plofsky: I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I absolutely considered doing that, and I think I put that in before I deleted it. But I was like, you know what? He's not a creepy old guy, and we haven't talked about dead mom in a while. So I'm gonna award him Dead Mother.

[1:09] Kevin Jager: I appreciate that. I really appreciate that.

[1:11] Bryan Plofsky: Kimberly, our jump in the line Shake Signora game master and unofficial babysitter for the hour.

[1:17] Kimberly Cooper: Yes, hello.

[1:19] Bryan Plofsky: And with us today is someone you may have heard on the Broadway Podcast Network with Equity One's Broadway's Happy Hour. You've also seen him on Broadway in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Beetlejuice. Let's give a big Broadwaysted welcome to Friend of the Show.

[1:37] Elliott Mattox: Woo! It's me. Hi.

[1:40] Bryan Plofsky: Welcome to you. You did it. So we're here. Elliott has been on the show only in a small segment in a BroadwayCon episode, and we are so thrilled to have him here on his own episode. So welcome, welcome, welcome.

[1:54] Kevin Jager: And in two radio plays.

[1:57] Elliott Mattox: I was about to say.

[1:58] Bryan Plofsky: Those don't count.

[1:59] Elliott Mattox: I disappoint they only don't count because I so disappeared into my character.

[2:05] Kimberly Cooper: Honestly.

[2:05] Elliott Mattox: Exactly. That's why I forgot.

[2:07] Bryan Plofsky: I honestly say I completely forgot because all I hear are your characters. And even when you're getting the intro, I got confused. I started to write your characters down. I was like, no, that's inappropriate. Because those one of those don't count because he's such a fantastic actor. Like when you're on stage in Beetlejuice, I have no idea which one is you and which one is Alex Brightman because you really, really embody the role so, so well. So cheers to you.

[2:34] Elliott Mattox: Thank you so much.

[2:36] Kimberly Cooper: You're welcome.

[2:38] Elliott Mattox: Thank you. Cheers, clean.

[2:39] Bryan Plofsky: To your character work.

[2:41] Elliott Mattox: To your character work. Honestly, if you start acting on this podcast, I'm gonna get very confused because I will know who I'm interviewing.

[2:47] Elliott Mattox: I'll do my best. You know, it's hard for me not to, but I'll try.

[2:51] Bryan Plofsky: I know to just be Elliott today.

[2:53] Elliott Mattox: Thank you.

[2:54] Bryan Plofsky: But let's start with what are you drinking? What are you drinking, Elliott?

[3:00] Kimberly Cooper: Do we still have—is Elliott still with us?

[3:04] Bryan Plofsky: Is Elliott still with us?

[3:06] Elliott Mattox: Yes, I am drinking bourbon with a little bit of lemon juice.

[3:10] Kimberly Cooper: Great, yes, yeah, delicious.

[3:12] Elliott Mattox: That's my specific brand. Yes, it's Maker's right now.

[3:18] Bryan Plofsky: Nice.

[3:19] Elliott Mattox: Because there's a—it's priced well at a place near me. So I go ahead and get the one liter. And I get it's in a nice, beautiful decanter from Mexico. I've become a decanter girl.

[3:30] Kimberly Cooper: Okay, okay. Do you have multiple—wait. What?

[3:35] Elliott Mattox: Do you have multiple decanters?

[3:37] Elliott Mattox: No, just the one. But I'd like more.

[3:39] Bryan Plofsky: So there we go. We can make things happen.

[3:43] Kevin Jager: Yeah, we can talk to our decanter people.

[3:46] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, big decanter is a big fan of the podcast.

[3:49] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[3:50] Bryan Plofsky: So I want to go back to something that you said earlier. It's priced well at a place near me. This joke might not land anymore, but I'm still going all in on it. That does sound like a chapter in a book of a memoir. Not the memoir title, but like chapter 15 is like priced well at a place by me, and you talk about your life in New York.

[4:11] Elliott Mattox: Um that's—oh, okay. It would be like a very specific chapter about navigating liquor stores in the city where you're like, okay, tequila is this place, but if I want bourbon, it's like five dollars cheaper a couple blocks down, so bring my backpack.

[4:29] Bryan Plofsky: That kind of thing.

[4:30] Elliott Mattox: Oh, yeah, 100%. And you draw like a big circle in like the midtown area, and you're like, never buy inside this circle. It'll always be expensive here.

[4:38] Kimberly Cooper: And the middle of your book, like, you know how those books have fold outs with pictures in the middle? Like, one of them is your liquor map.

[4:46] Elliott Mattox: This is a great idea that I will be taking all the credit for and money for when I write my book.

[4:53] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, thank you.

[4:54] Elliott Mattox: If you write it under a pseudonym, I won't have no idea who you are.

[4:58] Bryan Plofsky: So I'll just have to be acting when I write my book.

[5:01] Elliott Mattox: 100%.

[5:01] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, of course.

[5:04] Kevin Jager: Yeah, yeah.

[5:05] Bryan Plofsky: Absolutely. Kevin, what are you drinking?

[5:08] Kevin Jager: Uh, I am drinking vodka and orange juice. So I think they call that a screwdriver.

[5:13] Bryan Plofsky: Yes, sir. Kimberly, what are you drinking?

[5:17] Kimberly Cooper: Uh, my old faithful gin and tonic. Uh still with my great nine gin from Denning's Point Distillery that I am obsessed with.

[5:24] Bryan Plofsky: Awesome. Love it. Um I love the teal wax seal over the top of that.

[5:28] Kimberly Cooper: It's the best. It's like Maker's Mark, but like blue.

[5:31] Bryan Plofsky: Teal. Yeah. I'm drinking tequila on the rocks, but my ice has melted. So now it's tequila with a splash of water.

[5:39] Kimberly Cooper: Yes, tequila water.

[5:41] Bryan Plofsky: Um well, Elliott, thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. Um, you know, since we've never had you on before, let's just start with those old Broadwaysted questions. What's your favorite musical?

[5:51] Elliott Mattox: Oh my god. Okay, my favorite musical. Well, it depends on the day, but can I give like a couple for different reasons? Is that okay? Or do I have to pick one?

[6:02] Bryan Plofsky: There are no rules on Broadwaysted.

[6:04] Elliott Mattox: Oh, okay, great. Um, so my fa—I guess my favorite musical is Sunday in the Park with George.

[6:09] Bryan Plofsky: No, no, no. I feel like let's do that again.

[6:14] Elliott Mattox: I feel like that's such like a boring answer.

[6:16] Bryan Plofsky: It's a great answer. Be happy about it. Take two.

[6:20] Bryan Plofsky: Okay. Uh Elliott, what's your favorite musical?

[6:23] Elliott Mattox: My favorite musical is Sunday in the Park with George.

[6:26] Bryan Plofsky: Why is that your favorite musical?

[6:28] Elliott Mattox: Mute. That's so boring.

[6:32] Elliott Mattox: Because it's just so good. It like does it's so many like different reasons of like why I love theater, like the Chromolums and number sevens. I think that like it's for me, it's a perfect like amalgamation of like what Sondheim does, which is like that heady kind of brilliant artist stuff, while also like so funny. Like, yeah, literally, like in one step, he's like making your brain explode while he's also writing a great like patter song for Bernadette. Like I'm just gonna hilarious.

[7:09] Elliott Mattox: Um so I love that. Um, and then also like uh Spring Awakening was like my kind of entryway into like theater obsession. I was on—I'm so glad that Instagram did not exist when I was in high school because would you call yourself a guilty one?

[7:28] Elliott Mattox: I was a member of the guilty ones.

[7:30] Kimberly Cooper: Yes, you haven't as well.

[7:33] Elliott Mattox: Yes!

[7:35] Kimberly Cooper: If we had Instagram in high school, we would be best friends.

[7:38] Elliott Mattox: Absolutely. And we were probably submitting things to Broadway Secrets.

[7:42] Bryan Plofsky: Does anyone know what Broadway Secrets was?

[7:44] Kimberly Cooper: Yes.

[7:45] Elliott Mattox: Okay, so Broadway Secrets was like a website. What was it like a blog? You would like submit just pretty much memes onto this website, and like every Friday or something, they came out and they were just posting it was all memes about Broadway about like it was either gossip or like something.

[8:04] Kimberly Cooper: It was like Post Secret. Do you remember that too?

[8:06] Elliott Mattox: Oh yeah. I still look at Post Secret every Sunday. It's still a thing.

[8:11] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.

[8:11] Elliott Mattox: So I mentioned that, but it's just Broadway scandal.

[8:14] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, wow.

[8:14] Elliott Mattox: That Broadway scandal. Yeah. Just like in the rush line. Like oh wow. There was like page six items in there. Like, yeah. And then just like random stupid jokes. So that was like my entryway into fandom. And then I think the show that like I would want to like informs my taste and like what I would like to make for the rest of my life is The Drowsy Chaperone.

[8:38] Kimberly Cooper: Sure.

[8:38] Elliott Mattox: Oh, yeah. Drowsy Chaperone's one of my favorites. It's so good. It's like it has all the heart. It's so funny.

[8:47] Bryan Plofsky: Um who would you want to be?

[8:50] Elliott Mattox: I've played it. I've played one of the gangsters before.

[8:52] Kimberly Cooper: Me too.

[8:53] Elliott Mattox: But I've uh pastry chefs.

[8:58] Kimberly Cooper: With pastry chefs.

[8:59] Elliott Mattox: Oh, sorry, no acting. No acting.

[9:04] Bryan Plofsky: Did we just do The Drowsy Chaperone?

[9:08] Elliott Mattox: I think we just did it.

[9:11] Kimberly Cooper: And I love the like meta-ness of it and like the it's just I there's so much about that show that's good. But I would like to like age through that show. Like I would like to play every role.

[9:21] Elliott Mattox: That's a really—okay. I'm okay. I'm stealing that question. Man Josh. I that is a great question. Like, what show would you like to age through? Is there like that's a really good question?

[9:35] Bryan Plofsky: Like, what do you want to George Lee Andrews? Like Benjamin Button, the musical.

[9:42] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.

[9:43] Bryan Plofsky: No, that's a really good idea. Do you do you two have answers for that question? I love this question. I'm obsessed with that.

[9:49] Kimberly Cooper: A show you'd want to age through.

[9:50] Kevin Jager: Yeah, Kevin. What's a show you would want to age?

[9:53] Kevin Jager: That's a total of the good one. See, the one that I I would pick was. You do Lily St. Regis, you do Grace, and then you do Hannigan. Well, you do Annie first. Obviously.

[10:04] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, yeah.

[10:12] Bryan Plofsky: Oh my gosh. That's such a good point.

[10:13] Kevin Jager: And you end with the first female Daddy Warbucks.

[10:16] Bryan Plofsky: Love it. I mean, all it's love. Because at that point you're a legend. You've been an Annie for 50 years.

[10:22] Kimberly Cooper: The entire run.

[10:23] Kevin Jager: It has never closed.

[10:24] Bryan Plofsky: Except me. You also need to play what's the New York the one star. What is it? Star to be.

[10:29] Kevin Jager: Oh, sorry. Yes. Star to be is between Lily St. Regis and Grace. When you just like need a break.

[10:36] Bryan Plofsky: I think it would be before Lily, right?

[10:38] Kevin Jager: Maybe it's before Lily. You would need to break out into right after Pepper.

[10:41] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[10:42] Kevin Jager: And you can stay in Star B for a while.

[10:44] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely before Lily.

[10:48] Bryan Plofsky: Um mine would probably be Into the Woods. I would start as Jack, then you grow into one of the princes, and then you become the baker, and then you become the narrator old man.

[11:06] Kevin Jager: That's a great one.

[11:08] Bryan Plofsky: I would totally do that. That would be lovely.

[11:10] Kimberly Cooper: Those are great answers. And then you end being the first—uh no, it wouldn't be first because somebody's done it, but a male witch.

[11:20] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[11:21] Kimberly Cooper: They've had a male witch before, right?

[11:22] Kevin Jager: I'm sure. Ted is Burgess, I believe.

[11:24] Bryan Plofsky: That's why I was gonna say either Titus or Billy Porter or like.

[11:28] Kevin Jager: There was at one point that there's I think it maybe it's more than one at this point.

[11:31] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah. Brian, do you want to answer?

[11:34] Bryan Plofsky: Uh this is hard. I was thinking like something like Sweeney Todd. I mean, I do not have the pipes for any of those roles except for maybe one or two. Um, but you start um with Tobias, and then you move your way up to um Anthony, and then I guess next would be Sweeney, or maybe Sweeney.

[11:53] Kevin Jager: Maybe Beetle.

[11:57] Bryan Plofsky: Beetle or um.

[11:57] Kevin Jager: That's definitely jumping like vocal parts and everything.

[11:59] Bryan Plofsky: Like I mean, that's much harder than that.

[12:01] Kevin Jager: Yeah, yeah.

[12:04] Bryan Plofsky: Um for sure. But you could do it.

[12:04] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[12:04] Bryan Plofsky: Uh, and then uh maybe maybe it's um what's his name? Um uh Pirelli, that beetle Pirelli or Ellie Beetle. Then I think you hit um, then you hit Sweeney, and then you probably do the Judge's part of the last one.

[12:20] Kevin Jager: Yeah, um, bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum.

[12:25] Kimberly Cooper: Also another good one for for a woman is uh I feel like uh Mamma Mia is a good one because you get to play all three of the different women and um and uh her and if the and if you don't know I don't know if you could do that too.

[12:38] Kevin Jager: What show and all the dads?

[12:40] Kimberly Cooper: Oh my god, I'm so sorry, Kevin. Um another good one for a male or a female is Mamma Mia.

[12:48] Elliott Mattox: Thank you.

[12:49] Bryan Plofsky: Okay, now I understand um Mamma Mia, where yeah, you could play.

[12:53] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, I was like Mamma Mia, I don't know her.

[12:55] Bryan Plofsky: Like that's a good one too.

[12:57] Elliott Mattox: I like that one.

[12:57] Bryan Plofsky: Anyway.

[12:58] Elliott Mattox: This question, like the uh but real quick and then we'll wrap it up.

[13:01] Bryan Plofsky: No, we don't have to, we don't drop anything up.

[13:04] Elliott Mattox: That's his inner podcast host coming out.

[13:06] Bryan Plofsky: I know.

[13:06] Elliott Mattox: I was like, I was like, I don't want to like make the segment go on too long.

[13:09] Bryan Plofsky: No, but the um I love it.

[13:11] Elliott Mattox: The this idea kind of came from a friend of mine, his shout out to Kevin Pellicone, but he's talked about this before, and like the one example he's that we've used before is like the fantastics.

[13:21] Bryan Plofsky: So like you do Matt, and then you're like maybe maybe you have a mute era, and then maybe El Gallo, but then you end with the like the actors, which is like the fun kind of like way to age through something.

[13:36] Elliott Mattox: Oh, and another good one for for is uh sorry, I'm like very into this.

[13:40] Bryan Plofsky: I should cut my own.

[13:41] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, it's fun.

[13:43] Elliott Mattox: Um the uh I feel like ragtime on one side has a really good trajectory, um, at least on the side of the uh white uh like um just young white males.

[13:55] Bryan Plofsky: White young males.

[13:56] Elliott Mattox: Um because you wait, you mean you mean there's a great track for white young males?

[14:01] Bryan Plofsky: I was about to say, I don't think that's ever existed.

[14:03] Elliott Mattox: Let me let me tell you what he says in just let me tell you about Broadway musicals.

[14:08] Bryan Plofsky: Broadway music.

[14:09] Elliott Mattox: No, I will we'll save that for another time.

[14:12] Elliott Mattox: Um uh yeah, I think that I don't know.

[14:14] Elliott Mattox: I'm like now my brain is circulating.

[14:16] Elliott Mattox: I also have a post.

[14:17] Elliott Mattox: I also have a poster right in front of me, so I'm like looking at the poster, like going through all of these musicals.

[14:21] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[14:21] Bryan Plofsky: Well, Brian goes through broad through his like Broadway media.

[14:24] Bryan Plofsky: I have a question for you to like switch gears.

[14:26] Bryan Plofsky: So not only are you a Broadway performer and a podcast host, you've recently taken on another role, which is being a uh meteorologist, which you uh often do on your Instagram.

[14:40] Elliott Mattox: So can you talk about like how you got into meteorology and what made you interested in sharing your feelings about the weather every day?

[14:47] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, my passion for weather, I I would say I'm like more of like a weather commentator than I'm not predicting the weather.

[14:54] Elliott Mattox: I'm just like letting everyone know how I feel about it.

[14:59] Elliott Mattox: How it started was was in the he in the thick of the summer.

[15:04] Elliott Mattox: Um, I'm not a summer person.

[15:05] Elliott Mattox: I much prefer it to be like cold.

[15:07] Elliott Mattox: I like wind, I like crisp air, that kind of thing.

[15:11] Elliott Mattox: Jackets.

[15:12] Elliott Mattox: I don't like to sweat.

[15:13] Elliott Mattox: So I'll walk outside, and every time, every time I walk outside, and it would be 90 degrees and humid, I would just like groan.

[15:21] Elliott Mattox: I'm very I'm a very vocal person, so I like I sigh a lot and groan a lot and just make noises to express my feelings.

[15:30] Elliott Mattox: So um I was like, this can't be just me.

[15:33] Elliott Mattox: I feel like we we were all feeling like this weather is just awful.

[15:37] Elliott Mattox: So I decided to share it on um on the internet.

[15:43] Elliott Mattox: And it it is it's almost hurtful that that is the most interaction that I ever get on social media of people being like, I'm obsessed with this, more of this.

[15:54] Elliott Mattox: I'm like, I'm out here doing so much work on like actual projects, and you're like, you love when I just like grunt about it being 80 degrees.

[16:05] Bryan Plofsky: Right.

[16:06] Bryan Plofsky: Listen, when you find your niche, you find your niche.

[16:10] Elliott Mattox: Yeah.

[16:10] Elliott Mattox: And then, but then but then you know what?

[16:12] Elliott Mattox: Okay, this is I'm heated.

[16:14] Elliott Mattox: Because someone told me Instagram, like your Instagram commentary.

[16:17] Bryan Plofsky: Yes, exactly.

[16:18] Elliott Mattox: Thank you.

[16:18] Bryan Plofsky: Thank you, Brian.

[16:19] Elliott Mattox: Um this someone told me that is TikTok.

[16:23] Elliott Mattox: What you are doing, a short reaction video that is consistent a thing.

[16:28] Elliott Mattox: That is TikTok.

[16:29] Bryan Plofsky: Well, I've been doing it on TikTok, and I'm not famous yet.

[16:38] Elliott Mattox: They don't get any views.

[16:39] Elliott Mattox: I don't understand TikTok.

[16:41] Bryan Plofsky: Can someone explain?

[16:42] Elliott Mattox: I don't think anyone understands TikTok.

[16:44] Bryan Plofsky: TikTok.

[16:45] Elliott Mattox: Can I understand TikTok?

[16:46] Bryan Plofsky: Young people, reach out.

[16:48] Elliott Mattox: We're not here.

[16:51] Elliott Mattox: Reach out and tell me what I'm doing wrong.

[16:53] Elliott Mattox: Please.

[16:53] Bryan Plofsky: Genuinely.

[16:54] Elliott Mattox: But see, they're gonna reach out on something like Snapchat, and you won't know how to use that.

[16:58] Bryan Plofsky: It's gonna be a problem.

[17:00] Elliott Mattox: Well, I know okay.

[17:01] Elliott Mattox: I know how to use Snapchat.

[17:02] Elliott Mattox: I am millennial.

[17:04] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[17:05] Elliott Mattox: Okay, so I don't know how to use Snapchat.

[17:07] Elliott Mattox: I'm too old for that.

[17:07] Bryan Plofsky: I just turned 30.

[17:09] Kevin Jager: Here's a segment called TikTok.

[17:12] Kevin Jager: Uh as someone who has done a ton of TikTok research lately.

[17:17] Kevin Jager: Um there are a couple things that you should definitely do.

[17:21] Kevin Jager: To get this is a Scarlet Pimpernell notepad by the code.

[17:23] Elliott Mattox: Oh my god, that's amazing.

[17:24] Kevin Jager: Another great show to lit.

[17:26] Kevin Jager: No, I'm kidding.

[17:26] Kevin Jager: Um, some TikTok tips.

[17:30] Kevin Jager: One, post three times a day.

[17:33] Kevin Jager: Um, posting three times a day puts you in the algorithm and you get more views collectively.

[17:37] Kevin Jager: So you actually get pushed more, and then your your things start to hit.

[17:42] Kevin Jager: That's what I've read, and I've seen that one.

[17:44] Elliott Mattox: No one has time very well.

[17:45] Kevin Jager: I understand that.

[17:46] Kevin Jager: I'm not saying these things are good.

[17:47] Kevin Jager: Three times.

[17:48] Elliott Mattox: That's why people make one video do three things.

[17:50] Kevin Jager: Exactly.

[17:51] Kevin Jager: I posted this video two three different ways to see what comes up first.

[17:55] Kevin Jager: 100%.

[17:56] Kevin Jager: So that's another thing.

[17:58] Kevin Jager: There's very few things that I would like force myself to do three times a day.

[18:02] Kevin Jager: Just saying.

[18:03] Kevin Jager: Another thing is posting at I'll I can text this to you.

[18:06] Kevin Jager: Posting at specific times puts you in the algorithm faster or better because that's when people are looking and actually um scrolling.

[18:13] Kevin Jager: And different days have different times, similar to Instagram and how that works.

[18:16] Kevin Jager: But that's not that's a different set of algorithms because you're not, it's not the real discovery, whereas this discovery for TikTok is more um user friendly.

[18:24] Bryan Plofsky: Um isn't social media fun and organic.

[18:27] Kevin Jager: Yeah, exactly.

[18:28] Kevin Jager: Well, it's also annoying because sorry, the this I posted this like video, this thing that I made uh for the first day of a hearsal on Instagram, it has like 20,000 views and on TikTok it has like 300.

[18:44] Elliott Mattox: Yeah.

[18:45] Elliott Mattox: Um I know I have more followers one than the other.

[18:48] Kevin Jager: I called my my buddy at TikTok and got you shadow banned from like everyone.

[18:53] Elliott Mattox: So like I'm sorry.

[18:55] Kevin Jager: Yeah, there's some other things where like don't find the most popular hashtags who get lost in the mix, find less popular hashtags because you you you pulled up a little bit more there.

[19:03] Kevin Jager: Um use cat hashtag kev for ham.

[19:06] Kevin Jager: Yeah, use K E V for H A M.

[19:10] Kevin Jager: Semi popular about five years ago.

[19:12] Kevin Jager: Yeah, and by semi-popular, I mean like we used it a lot.

[19:16] Kevin Jager: And the the last thing I'll loud on a podcast.

[19:19] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[19:19] Kevin Jager: And not ever typed on social media.

[19:22] Kevin Jager: Pretty much.

[19:22] Kevin Jager: We said it out loud.

[19:23] Kevin Jager: And the last thing I'll say is if you're not gonna post something controversial that someone's gonna like, like that you just wanna like start the drama, have an action thing in there.

[19:32] Kevin Jager: Like which one of these do you like the most?

[19:35] Kevin Jager: Which one do you like hot weather or cold weather?

[19:38] Kevin Jager: Because the more people comment on that, the more people get you but pulled in the algorithm.

[19:43] Elliott Mattox: I've been doing this have your own strong opinions.

[19:45] Elliott Mattox: People will disagree with you, whether you ask them to or not.

[19:47] Kevin Jager: Absolutely.

[19:48] Kevin Jager: So or be a criteria.

[19:51] Kevin Jager: Or purposefully or purposefully mispronounce things.

[19:54] Kevin Jager: That seems to work all the time.

[19:56] Kevin Jager: Um yeah, stitching with other people is helpful because their stuff gets pushed too.

[20:00] Elliott Mattox: Yeah.

[20:00] Kevin Jager: Um, always, always, always use trending sounds.

[20:04] Kevin Jager: People search trending sounds.

[20:06] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[20:06] Elliott Mattox: Even if you're not when this comes out, I'm gonna do a question about the musical live through question.

[20:12] Kevin Jager: Great.

[20:13] Elliott Mattox: So I'm gonna promote this.

[20:14] Kevin Jager: Yeah, but and have people tell me what musical they want to live through.

[20:18] Elliott Mattox: Yes.

[20:18] Kevin Jager: So perfect.

[20:19] Kevin Jager: If you're the same, go to my TikTok.

[20:22] Kevin Jager: And then we will do the same, and it'll be like, which one did you see first?

[20:26] Elliott Mattox: No!

[20:27] Bryan Plofsky: I will say that Kevin is the most right about TikTok.

[20:32] Kevin Jager: You have to be famous first.

[20:36] Elliott Mattox: Um just try being famous.

[20:38] Bryan Plofsky: But do you know what you don't have to be famous?

[20:41] Kevin Jager: What?

[20:43] Bryan Plofsky: Tuesday in the corner with Kevin.

[20:49] Kevin Jager: It's Kevin's corner.

[20:51] Bryan Plofsky: Well, how could you like that musical?

[20:52] Kevin Jager: That's such a boring notion.

[20:57] Kevin Jager: All right.

[20:58] Kevin Jager: Welcome to Kevin's Corner, where nothing here is basic except for the pumpkin spice lattes.

[21:03] Kevin Jager: And it's Mike Carner, and I do whatever I want, and it's super fun.

[21:06] Kevin Jager: And so today I'm actually gonna need Kimberly's assistance.

[21:09] Kevin Jager: So, Kimberly, okay.

[21:11] Kevin Jager: Dust thou have a pen and pencil or something to keep notes of Elliott's answers.

[21:16] Kimberly Cooper: Why, of course I do.

[21:17] Kevin Jager: Oh, perfect.

[21:18] Kevin Jager: So, Elliott, we're gonna play a game called How Do I Live Without You?

[21:24] Kevin Jager: And it's really simple.

[21:25] Kevin Jager: So I'm gonna tell you like a scenario or a meal or some kind of situation, and you have to tell me the ultimate thing in that scenario andor situation that you could never live without.

[21:25] Elliott Mattox: Could never live without, got it.

[21:38] Kevin Jager: And Kimberly is gonna write down your answers, and then we're gonna do something fun with that.

[21:42] Elliott Mattox: See you with Greenway.

[21:44] Kevin Jager: I'm with you.

[21:44] Kevin Jager: Okay, so packing a suitcase.

[21:47] Kevin Jager: What is something that you you're going on a trip?

[21:49] Kevin Jager: What is something you can never live without?

[21:51] Elliott Mattox: Packing my suitcase is something I can never live without.

[21:55] Elliott Mattox: Is uh uh show t-shirts, musical brownie t-shirts.

[22:01] Kevin Jager: Great.

[22:02] Kevin Jager: I'll let Kimberly write that down.

[22:04] Kevin Jager: And the next thing is breakfast.

[22:08] Elliott Mattox: Coffee.

[22:10] Kevin Jager: Great.

[22:10] Kevin Jager: That's a good answer.

[22:11] Kevin Jager: Very solid.

[22:12] Kevin Jager: I don't drink coffee myself, but I understand the appeal to other people.

[22:16] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[22:16] Kevin Jager: Great.

[22:17] Kevin Jager: The next thing is the zoo.

[22:19] Elliott Mattox: Penguins.

[22:22] Kevin Jager: Um, have you seen the clip of when uh they point out that Benedict Cumberbatch can't say the word penguin?

[22:29] Elliott Mattox: On Graham Norton.

[22:30] Kevin Jager: It was out on Graham Northern.

[22:31] Kevin Jager: Yeah, it was on Graham Norton, and he pointed out he can't say the word, but he actually had done like a narration of a documentary that had penguins in it.

[22:39] Elliott Mattox: And so he called them uh pen wings.

[22:42] Kevin Jager: And so he's like Pen wings like penguins or penguins.

[22:48] Kevin Jager: And then he was like, the pen wings have, and then he was like, the penguins.

[22:51] Kevin Jager: And then like all Graham Norton, he still couldn't say it.

[22:53] Elliott Mattox: It was amazing.

[22:54] Kevin Jager: What's the respect on penguins?

[22:57] Elliott Mattox: Seriously.

[22:58] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[22:59] Kevin Jager: Your closet.

[23:01] Elliott Mattox: My closet.

[23:02] Elliott Mattox: Oh, well, I already said show t-shirts.

[23:04] Elliott Mattox: Um, I would say, um, can I say bright colors and bold patterns?

[23:09] Kevin Jager: Great.

[23:09] Kevin Jager: No, you can definitely say that.

[23:11] Kevin Jager: Um, your uh music on your iPod, iTunes or whatever.

[23:18] Elliott Mattox: Right now, right now it's Olivia Rodrigo.

[23:22] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[23:22] Kevin Jager: Yeah, that's not basic at all.

[23:24] Kevin Jager: It's that's totally normal.

[23:26] Kevin Jager: Uh uh uh he's getting to know she's actually wonderful.

[23:32] Elliott Mattox: Whenever I drive now, um, we have a 1.5 under over guess if we'll hear how many times we'll hear Olivia Rodrigo on the radio.

[23:40] Kevin Jager: Uh always over 1.5.

[23:42] Kevin Jager: It's always and the only reason I was teasing you about being basic is because her big poster of her thing is on the subway when I get off every single day.

[23:52] Elliott Mattox: So I literally just get off and just see her looking at me, and I'm like, you bitch.

[23:56] Kevin Jager: Um, okay.

[23:56] Kevin Jager: Uh, not that I don't like her music, but she's a stalker.

[23:59] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, if you miss that song, she's a stalker.

[24:02] Kevin Jager: Just think about it.

[24:03] Elliott Mattox: Oh, uh, we could I could I could go on and on and on, but I'm 30 years old and it's not a good look for me.

[24:11] Kevin Jager: I'm like, okay.

[24:13] Kevin Jager: Teenage girl, teenage problems amazing.

[24:17] Kevin Jager: Um, okay, so we got two more here.

[24:19] Kevin Jager: Um uh the movies.

[24:22] Kevin Jager: The movies, yes.

[24:23] Kevin Jager: Um like of all time, yeah.

[24:27] Kevin Jager: One movie, or if I'm going to the movies, so either one.

[24:30] Elliott Mattox: You can you can interpret it either way.

[24:33] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[24:34] Kevin Jager: Popcorn.

[24:36] Elliott Mattox: Okay.

[24:37] Kevin Jager: And the final one is your birthday.

[24:46] Elliott Mattox: Friends.

[24:48] Kevin Jager: Great.

[24:48] Kevin Jager: Good answer.

[24:49] Kevin Jager: Good answer.

[24:50] Kevin Jager: Now, Kimberly, can you?

[24:58] Kimberly Cooper: I can.

[24:59] Kimberly Cooper: Jay's also very loud in the next room.

[25:00] Kimberly Cooper: Apparently, something just exciting happened.

[25:03] Kimberly Cooper: Can you hear the laughter?

[25:06] Kimberly Cooper: Elliot can't live without Broadway t-shirts.

[25:09] Kimberly Cooper: Coffee, penguins, bright colors and bold patterns.

[25:12] Kimberly Cooper: Olivia Rodrigo, popcorn, and friends.

[25:15] Kevin Jager: That's so interesting.

[25:17] Kevin Jager: But guess what?

[25:17] Kevin Jager: In Kevin's corner, you have to get rid of four of those things.

[25:21] Elliott Mattox: Great.

[25:22] Elliott Mattox: So now you're gonna go back to that list and take four of them off.

[25:26] Elliott Mattox: Brutal.

[25:27] Elliott Mattox: Okay.

[25:28] Elliott Mattox: Well, speaking of brutal, Olivia Rodrigo.

[25:30] Elliott Mattox: Love you, sorry girl.

[25:31] Elliott Mattox: You're current, you're now.

[25:33] Elliott Mattox: You're not forever, sweets.

[25:34] Bryan Plofsky: Um my god, that is so rude.

[25:36] Elliott Mattox: I don't actually mean that.

[25:38] Bryan Plofsky: I just pictured them putting her name in Avenue Q.

[25:41] Elliott Mattox: Olivia Rodrigo is only for now.

[25:44] Kevin Jager: No.

[25:44] Elliott Mattox: That's actually another chapter in his book.

[25:47] Bryan Plofsky: Uh-huh.

[25:47] Kevin Jager: Oh, yeah.

[25:48] Elliott Mattox: And it's my and it's my first TikTok controversy.

[25:51] Bryan Plofsky: Um, okay, so Olivia Rodrigo's gonna go.

[25:58] Kevin Jager: Coffee's gonna oh hold on.

[26:01] Elliott Mattox: So it's okay.

[26:02] Kevin Jager: Can't really give him the list again.

[26:04] Elliott Mattox: Please popcorn.

[26:06] Kevin Jager: So popcorn and Olivia Rodrigo are done.

[26:08] Elliott Mattox: All right, popcorn and Olivia are gone, so he has two more to get rid of.

[26:11] Bryan Plofsky: Okay, so then you can get rid of friends, bright colors and bold patterns, penguins, or Broadway t-shirts.

[26:18] Elliott Mattox: Oh my god.

[26:21] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[26:22] Elliott Mattox: I'm gonna get rid of penguins.

[26:27] Kevin Jager: They're gone.

[26:27] Elliott Mattox: Off the penguins.

[26:29] Kevin Jager: Sorry, penguins.

[26:31] Elliott Mattox: Good for Benadryl.

[26:34] Kevin Jager: So I'm gonna get rid of Broadway t-shirts.

[26:40] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, so you keep the bright colors and bold patterns.

[26:43] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, because I feel like that's a way of life.

[26:45] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[26:46] Elliott Mattox: And it's a great play, by the way.

[26:48] Bryan Plofsky: So just so you know, what really matters to you is friends and bright colors and bold patterns.

[26:53] Kevin Jager: This is like Kevin's corner.

[26:55] Elliott Mattox: Yeah.

[26:56] Bryan Plofsky: I don't usually say this, but that was an exceptional Kevin's corner.

[27:01] Kevin Jager: Oh, thank you, sir.

[27:04] Elliott Mattox: Did you like what I called the guest basic?

[27:09] Bryan Plofsky: I was, I was gonna I love how you all accepted my like backhand compliment when my follow-up joke was gonna be like because we haven't done this in a while.

[27:16] Elliott Mattox: But like go ahead and shit on him.

[27:20] Bryan Plofsky: It's okay.

[27:20] Elliott Mattox: That's all right.

[27:21] Bryan Plofsky: And this works perfectly because now I can be the villain of season three.

[27:25] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, totally.

[27:26] Bryan Plofsky: Perfect.

[27:26] Elliott Mattox: We need a through line.

[27:28] Bryan Plofsky: This is only season three, part one, so we could have a turn for season three part two.

[27:33] Elliott Mattox: That's the cliffhanger we've been teasing.

[27:36] Bryan Plofsky: Oh my god, this is so good.

[27:37] Kevin Jager: Well, Elliott and his acting chops come back.

[27:41] Bryan Plofsky: Speaking of your acting chops, I know we were joking about it before, um, but you're awesome in Beetlejuice, and we're super excited to see you back in Beetlejuice.

[27:49] Elliott Mattox: Um, I can't really say it again.

[27:51] Bryan Plofsky: Um Mr.

[27:55] Elliott Mattox: Biju, Mr.

[27:56] Bryan Plofsky: Juice, I'll call him Mr.

[27:57] Elliott Mattox: Juice.

[27:57] Bryan Plofsky: Um You're actually good.

[27:59] Elliott Mattox: Uh in the in there, there are very clear rules about Beetlejuice.

[28:02] Bryan Plofsky: And you have to say his name um spoken unbroken.

[28:06] Elliott Mattox: So you can't say Beetlejuice, I Betelgeuse, the Beetlejuice.

[28:10] Bryan Plofsky: That's still just one time.

[28:11] Elliott Mattox: Okay, right in a row with no words.

[28:13] Bryan Plofsky: Thank you for the reminder, clarification.

[28:15] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, yeah.

[28:16] Bryan Plofsky: Lots of rules.

[28:17] Elliott Mattox: No, lots of rules on our claim.

[28:18] Bryan Plofsky: You're talking to someone who loves rules, so like that's great.

[28:22] Elliott Mattox: Um, so I guess like talk about this experience.

[28:26] Bryan Plofsky: Not being able to say goodbye the way that you want.

[28:29] Elliott Mattox: Unclosing the show.

[28:32] Bryan Plofsky: Even but even the experience of like not being able to say goodbye properly, and then and then now, like Kevin said, unclosing the show.

[28:40] Elliott Mattox: Like, talk about that, like that journey, and you're in rehearsals now.

[28:44] Elliott Mattox: In rehearsals now, yeah.

[28:45] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, talk about that journey just from your perspective.

[28:48] Elliott Mattox: What a wild ride.

[28:51] Elliott Mattox: Truly a wild ride.

[28:52] Elliott Mattox: I mean, from start to finish, really, like um for us to kind of you know, we picked up speed after we had been open for a couple months.

[29:02] Elliott Mattox: I mean, speaking of, you know, TikTok, I mean, thank you, TikTok, because I don't know if I'd have a job, honestly, um, without the fans and the young fans and us randomly being like trends on TikTok, which got people interested in the show.

[29:18] Elliott Mattox: So I'd like to toot Broadwaysted's horn uh for this uh uh this um bookends situation we're having here where we talked about TikTok and now it's coming back.

[29:27] Bryan Plofsky: This was not done on purpose, but we instinctively knew that we'd be talking about it.

[29:31] Elliott Mattox: We knew 100%.

[29:33] Bryan Plofsky: I mean, it's clear to me.

[29:35] Elliott Mattox: Thank you.

[29:35] Bryan Plofsky: Um that it was all in the prep.

[29:37] Elliott Mattox: You saw it.

[29:38] Bryan Plofsky: I see, I see you, sister.

[29:41] Elliott Mattox: Um this is yeah, so it it was I mean, crazy to close and then to just go to not be able to finish out the show.

[29:52] Elliott Mattox: I mean, I do think that we were fortunate in a way we were already going to close.

[29:59] Elliott Mattox: So we had already kind of made peace with it, maybe started saving.

[30:04] Elliott Mattox: We were we knew the end was going to come and that there was potential for another production, but I really felt for shows that just kind of close out of nowhere, like you know, Frozen and Mean Girls and that kind of camp of people.

[30:19] Elliott Mattox: And then for us to get to come back, um it's so exciting.

[30:24] Elliott Mattox: And for me, it feels like forever because I feel like Broadway has uh Broadway's been back forever, like since because I've I see things, I see shows all the time.

[30:35] Elliott Mattox: So I've been going to Broadway shows like since June of last year.

[30:40] Elliott Mattox: So I was very much like, hurry up.

[30:43] Elliott Mattox: Like I want I wanna do it now.

[30:46] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[30:46] Elliott Mattox: Um but I'm really grateful that we waited so that you know, I think we've all learned, I think the community has learned a lot about like what doing a Broadway show means right now, and hopefully we won't have to deal with closings and um and hiatuses and this kind of new um new um facet of the business that's never existed before.

[31:11] Elliott Mattox: Um so I'm very grateful to be back and I love the show.

[31:14] Elliott Mattox: I've been with it since 2017 in like early development, and so I'm I it's my favorite job, and I'm just so grateful to get to go back.

[31:22] Bryan Plofsky: So weird question, but like actually serious.

[31:25] Bryan Plofsky: On so like on your resume, will this be like a second Broadway production of Beetlejuice?

[31:32] Elliott Mattox: Or will it be uh you were in Beetlejuice for like its two runs?

[31:39] Elliott Mattox: I'll probably just say Beetle, it's probably just on there once.

[31:42] Elliott Mattox: I'm not doing anything like so well.

[31:44] Elliott Mattox: I am doing well, it will change a little bit, but I won't have like two things.

[31:48] Elliott Mattox: I'll just add it because I'm understudying Otho and Maxi Dean.

[31:52] Elliott Mattox: So I'm understudying the ensemble features this time around.

[31:55] Bryan Plofsky: When I wasn't congrats.

[31:57] Elliott Mattox: Thank you.

[31:58] Elliott Mattox: Um it's exciting.

[31:59] Elliott Mattox: I mean, to get to do something different.

[32:01] Bryan Plofsky: It's good for my brain.

[32:02] Kevin Jager: What do you think?

[32:03] Elliott Mattox: Otho is that who is that?

[32:05] Kevin Jager: Sorry?

[32:06] Elliott Mattox: Who is who's playing Otho?

[32:08] Kevin Jager: Uh Kelvin.

[32:09] Elliott Mattox: That's right.

[32:09] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[32:10] Elliott Mattox: That'd be super fun to play.

[32:11] Kevin Jager: So oh, so fun.

[32:13] Elliott Mattox: You get to get spun around.

[32:15] Kevin Jager: Spun around on a wheel, you know.

[32:18] Elliott Mattox: Yeah.

[32:19] Elliott Mattox: Um very fun.

[32:20] Elliott Mattox: I'm thrilled.

[32:21] Elliott Mattox: I mean, I really am so excited to be back.

[32:23] Elliott Mattox: I was um my my fiance is on a um on a cruise ship gig right now for two weeks.

[32:30] Elliott Mattox: And so we communicate only through Marco Polo.

[32:33] Elliott Mattox: Um so um, but he literally, like day two is like, babe, like your face is different, like you look happy.

[32:43] Bryan Plofsky: Sure.

[32:44] Elliott Mattox: And I'm like, I just I it feels good to be back doing this.

[32:49] Kevin Jager: That's wonderful.

[32:50] Bryan Plofsky: What's what's been like what's been the one thing that surprised you?

[32:54] Bryan Plofsky: How much you missed it that you it just kind of like was under the radar, and then you got back into the the the habit of things, and then like, oh wow, this thing I overlooked, and this I missed this so much.

[33:07] Elliott Mattox: I guess like it's all I think it's a different kind of mindset coming back.

[33:12] Elliott Mattox: Like I really see a difference in how I'm showing up day to day.

[33:17] Elliott Mattox: Like, I really feel like now I'm there.

[33:21] Elliott Mattox: I'm like seeing people like in a number instead of just being like, oh, on seven here.

[33:26] Elliott Mattox: Okay, and I do this step.

[33:27] Elliott Mattox: I'm like, oh my god, like there's there's a moment with this person here.

[33:31] Elliott Mattox: And you know, I really missed like getting to like mess around with Leslie in the dinner scene.

[33:36] Elliott Mattox: Like it, it was more about kind of those little special moments that I miss with like the community of it all.

[33:42] Elliott Mattox: So I'm really grateful to be back to that.

[33:45] Elliott Mattox: Um, and also because my track is a little bit different, not just with the understudy things, but it is the show has been retracked.

[33:52] Elliott Mattox: Cool.

[33:52] Elliott Mattox: So I'm doing different things.

[33:54] Elliott Mattox: I'm like me in one number, and then I'm learning, you know, what Ryan Breslin used to do in the next number.

[34:01] Elliott Mattox: So um, so that's good for my brain to not have to just not just like sit back in what I knew.

[34:08] Bryan Plofsky: And you'll be in a new space completely, completely new space.

[34:13] Kevin Jager: Which theater is it going into?

[34:15] Elliott Mattox: Um, it's going into the marquee, right?

[34:18] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, that's right.

[34:19] Elliott Mattox: The com the most comfortable theater on Broadway, I've deemed it.

[34:22] Bryan Plofsky: I have dreams about it.

[34:23] Elliott Mattox: It's a cozy place to be.

[34:25] Kevin Jager: Like, why put on your feet in there when all I want to do is sit down?

[34:29] Elliott Mattox: What a great show.

[34:30] Bryan Plofsky: I love that.

[34:32] Elliott Mattox: Um but yeah, uh, that's fantastic.

[34:35] Elliott Mattox: And it's I'm excited to go to the marquee also because you know we have all that landscape, the the pass-through.

[34:41] Elliott Mattox: Um underneath the hotel and everything.

[34:44] Elliott Mattox: Underneath the hotel, there's this big wall, and you can put things there.

[34:47] Elliott Mattox: And tiny as Starbucks.

[34:49] Elliott Mattox: They've announced that um, you know, because shows generally put like production photos there or like big posters or something.

[34:55] Elliott Mattox: We're actually gonna be that's all gonna be um fan art.

[34:59] Elliott Mattox: They're gonna put all images from fan from the fans and make this big kind of like that's gonna be the selling point.

[35:08] Bryan Plofsky: That's the tribute to that.

[35:12] Elliott Mattox: So cool.

[35:13] Elliott Mattox: Because you can like all of the fans can come and like take a picture to what they did.

[35:18] Elliott Mattox: And you know, it really is like it's so cheesy, but really that's the reason we're here.

[35:26] Elliott Mattox: Like they really like the fans of the show kept us alive and not just alive, but like from from danger to selling out and reopening, and I mean, this is completely unprecedented and and really huge.

[35:45] Bryan Plofsky: And I'm just again so grateful.

[35:48] Elliott Mattox: Beetle, we we talked about in this podcast many times.

[35:51] Elliott Mattox: Beetlejuice is some of the most fun at a um musical we had, especially around that time.

[35:57] Bryan Plofsky: And and we also talk about this, like talk about the perfect way to adapt something that everybody knows.

[36:04] Elliott Mattox: Uh yeah.

[36:06] Elliott Mattox: I mean, this is I'm just telling our listeners, like, go see Beetlejuice again or for the first time when it opens.

[36:11] Elliott Mattox: Like this thing is so much fun.

[36:13] Elliott Mattox: It's if you've seen the movie, you haven't seen the musical.

[36:16] Elliott Mattox: Like, don't think that you've seen the movie and you know the musical.

[36:19] Kevin Jager: They also just announced that um Beetlejuice 2 is in production with um Winona Ryder and uh or it's trying to get and Michael Keaton.

[36:28] Elliott Mattox: So, like Beetlejuice is gonna be in the the zeitgeist for a little bit now.

[36:32] Bryan Plofsky: So are they gonna go into the show as a promo?

[36:35] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, my bad.

[36:36] Elliott Mattox: Could you imagine on Broadway?

[36:39] Kevin Jager: I think that would be so sickening.

[36:41] Elliott Mattox: Brad Pitt's plan B uh production company is producing it.

[36:45] Bryan Plofsky: Like uh this was like all so fun.

[36:48] Elliott Mattox: We'll see if it actually happens.

[36:49] Bryan Plofsky: That's crazy.

[36:50] Elliott Mattox: But like, but like like this you you haven't renewed interest in the property because of TikTok.

[36:55] Kevin Jager: We're back to TikTok.

[36:56] Elliott Mattox: I know.

[36:57] Kevin Jager: Oh god, it's all about TikTok.

[36:59] Elliott Mattox: Um but yes, like, and again, like, you know, the last two years have been really challenging, right?

[37:06] Elliott Mattox: For everyone.

[37:08] Kevin Jager: And I do well, I don't know if you know this.

[37:12] Elliott Mattox: But there has been something going on.

[37:15] Kevin Jager: Um I do think that like maybe what's missing right now, in my opinion, is somewhere to go laugh.

[37:24] Elliott Mattox: Sure.

[37:24] Kevin Jager: Somewhere to just go and like have a great time.

[37:29] Elliott Mattox: And I feel like if I I'm jealous I can't see the show, but I know that like if I had family friends coming into town, the first ticket I'd be buying to take people to when they're visiting the city would be Beetlejuice because it's just fun.

[37:42] Elliott Mattox: It's just and it's asking a good time.

[37:44] Elliott Mattox: And it's asking and answering it's asking and answering some very interesting questions on top of just being a really fun time.

[37:52] Elliott Mattox: Well, and we've you know, and that's an interesting thing to like come back to when you know our it's the whole it that deals with death and loss, and um and not feeling seen by people around you.

[38:09] Elliott Mattox: I mean, I feel like those all have so many different layers after the year we've the two years we've had of of you know a pandemic where we lost so many people, and we also lost a lot of life ourselves just in the ability to go out and be amongst people and um live what we considered normally, and so I'm really excited to see how the show hits different now after the kind of um after the couple years we've had.

[38:41] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, for sure.

[38:42] Kimberly Cooper: Um amazing.

[38:43] Kevin Jager: Should we play a game?

[38:45] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[38:46] Elliott Mattox: Just who me.

[38:50] Kimberly Cooper: Absolutely.

[38:51] Bryan Plofsky: Um, I have a game of plot points at the ready um with two very silly categories.

[38:57] Kimberly Cooper: So if you haven't played plot points before, you will receive two things when it is your turn.

[39:02] Bryan Plofsky: You will get today.

[39:04] Kimberly Cooper: Um, you'll get the title of a movie that comes up uh when you search if you like Beetlejuice, what watch next.

[39:11] Elliott Mattox: Oh yes.

[39:13] Kimberly Cooper: Uh so you'll get the title of a movie, and then you'll get the title of a song from a listicle I found entitled wrong winter.

[39:26] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, right, because it's already pulled up because I am in here.

[39:30] Kimberly Cooper: Um a listicle entitled 17 Show Tunes to Belt When You're Having a Bad Day.

[39:35] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, okay.

[39:37] Kimberly Cooper: Um, when it is your turn, you'll get two of those things, and you'll sing the plot of the movie to the tune of the song, and then we all have to guess the two things you were given.

[39:47] Bryan Plofsky: I hope you'll be able to do that. And Brian, you go first.

[39:48] Kevin Jager: I hope one of the songs is because I am a wife from Pirate Queen.

[39:53] Bryan Plofsky: I don't think it's going to be though.

[39:56] Kimberly Cooper: No, I haven't looked at the whole list, so who knows?

[40:00] Bryan Plofsky: Uh Brian, would you like to go first as our example set?

[40:02] Bryan Plofsky: Yes, I'll I'm happy to go first.

[40:05] Kimberly Cooper: Um, do you want to say when?

[40:06] Bryan Plofsky: Do you want to just say a number and I'll pick from the list?

[40:09] Kimberly Cooper: You you just send whatever you want to me.

[40:11] Bryan Plofsky: Is that less fun?

[40:12] Kimberly Cooper: I can I can give you a number.

[40:15] Bryan Plofsky: You can give me a number, and I'll still just send whatever you want.

[40:17] Kimberly Cooper: That's also true.

[40:18] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, that's there's no rhyme or reason.

[40:21] Kimberly Cooper: Okay, okay.

[40:22] Bryan Plofsky: I'm interested.

[40:23] Kimberly Cooper: I'm interested.

[40:25] Bryan Plofsky: Hopefully you know which one is which.

[40:29] Kimberly Cooper: What if there were some that were the same?

[40:31] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[40:31] Kimberly Cooper: Um okay.

[40:32] Bryan Plofsky: I'm gonna close my eyes and go here.

[40:34] Kimberly Cooper: Great, wonderful.

[40:36] Bryan Plofsky: So just to confirm, I'm taking that song and using the plot of the movie to the to make the lyrics.

[40:43] Kimberly Cooper: Yes.

[40:44] Bryan Plofsky: Okay.

[40:44] Kimberly Cooper: You're not singing the lyrics of the song, you're singing the melody of the song, the plot of the movie.

[40:49] Bryan Plofsky: Here we go. They came from the sky.

[40:56] Kevin Jager: Wait, no.

[40:58] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, yeah, that's the right song.

[40:59] Kevin Jager: I mean, technically, yeah.

[41:00] Bryan Plofsky: Oh. They came from the sky.

[41:04] Bryan Plofsky: Uh now they're here to stay, and they're destroying the entire world.

[41:14] Kevin Jager: Alien?

[41:17] Bryan Plofsky: When it's directed by Tim, Tim Tim, Tim Burton.

[41:22] Kevin Jager: It came out the same time as Independence Day.

[41:27] Bryan Plofsky: The tax.

[41:29] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[41:30] Bryan Plofsky: It's Martin.

[41:31] Kevin Jager: Tomorrow.

[41:32] Bryan Plofsky: And tomorrow, yes.

[41:35] Kevin Jager: One point each.

[41:35] Bryan Plofsky: I should have done like, and Michael J. Fox, Natalie Portman, Jack Nicholson.

[41:41] Kevin Jager: Just named them all.

[41:44] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[41:45] Kevin Jager: I couldn't remember a single person in that movie, so I don't know.

[41:47] Bryan Plofsky: He was prosperous.

[41:49] Kevin Jager: I loved that movie as a child.

[41:51] Bryan Plofsky: I don't know why.

[41:51] Kevin Jager: I watched it recently.

[41:52] Bryan Plofsky: It's it holds up.

[41:53] Kevin Jager: It's it's really fun.

[41:54] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, good.

[41:55] Kimberly Cooper: See, we tried to watch it as a family movie when I was younger, and all the kids in my family were afraid of it.

[42:00] Bryan Plofsky: And so we turned it off and watched something else.

[42:02] Kevin Jager: Nobnub.

[42:03] Bryan Plofsky: Oh no, we all liked it.

[42:05] Kevin Jager: We were all scared.

[42:06] Bryan Plofsky: Weird, apparently.

[42:08] Kevin Jager: Uh Kevin, your turn.

[42:09] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[42:11] Bryan Plofsky: Uh tell me a random number.

[42:13] Kevin Jager: Eight and thirty-nine.

[42:17] Bryan Plofsky: I don't think I can get to 39, but I'll be out of the couple of times.

[42:26] Kevin Jager: Okay, okay.

[42:28] Kevin Jager: All right.

[42:30] Bryan Plofsky: We haven't played plot pony in a while.

[42:31] Kevin Jager: This is very exciting.

[42:33] Bryan Plofsky: I know.

[42:34] Kevin Jager: Tell me it once.

[42:38] Bryan Plofsky: Okay.

[42:39] Kevin Jager: There's a typo.

[42:40] Bryan Plofsky: I understood.

[42:43] Kevin Jager: First I was like, wait, I don't know that song, and then I was like, ah, now I didn't know that song.

[42:46] Kevin Jager: Okay, here we go.

[42:47] Kevin Jager: Um.

[42:48] Kevin Jager: Oh, oh, oh.

[42:50] Kevin Jager: Uh uh.

[42:53] Kevin Jager: Look at the TV.

[42:55] Kevin Jager: And you will see that they are here.

[42:58] Bryan Plofsky: Poltergeist.

[42:59] Kevin Jager: Um, they are really scary.

[43:02] Bryan Plofsky: Can't stop the beat.

[43:04] Kevin Jager: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[43:07] Bryan Plofsky: Well done.

[43:08] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[43:08] Bryan Plofsky: And if you try, and she says this house is clean.

[43:13] Kevin Jager: I am so proud of myself for getting that.

[43:16] Kevin Jager: My fiance will be thrilled because I don't watch scary movies.

[43:19] Kevin Jager: I he gets one a year on Halloween.

[43:21] Kevin Jager: And this past year was Poltergeist.

[43:23] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[43:24] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, like I know.

[43:26] Bryan Plofsky: Does he love horror movies?

[43:27] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[43:30] Bryan Plofsky: Nope.

[43:30] Kevin Jager: Oh, they're so great.

[43:33] Bryan Plofsky: They're too much.

[43:34] Kevin Jager: I'm a huge fan of Tony Colette, and I'll never see hereditary.

[43:38] Bryan Plofsky: You should not.

[43:39] Kevin Jager: Oh, I've never even.

[43:40] Bryan Plofsky: You'll never.

[43:40] Kevin Jager: I love horror movies.

[43:42] Kevin Jager: I that the movie is seared into my brain.

[43:45] Kevin Jager: And like it's a big thing.

[43:46] Bryan Plofsky: I will never see it.

[43:47] Kevin Jager: Oh, yeah.

[43:47] Bryan Plofsky: There's and starring starring theater actress, Millie.

[43:52] Elliott Mattox: What's your last name?

[43:53] Bryan Plofsky: Uh Millie uh does it.

[43:55] Kevin Jager: Matilda, Tony Award winner.

[43:56] Elliott Mattox: Uh-huh.

[43:57] Bryan Plofsky: Uh they didn't win the Tony.

[43:59] Kevin Jager: They got a special Tony.

[44:01] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, that's right.

[44:01] Kevin Jager: That's right.

[44:02] Bryan Plofsky: That doesn't count.

[44:02] Kevin Jager: It wasn't, it wasn't competitive.

[44:04] Bryan Plofsky: I know.

[44:04] Kevin Jager: The Billy Children.

[44:08] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, that's another good one to age through.

[44:12] Kevin Jager: Sure.

[44:14] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, oh, oh.

[44:15] Kevin Jager: Don't you think?

[44:16] Bryan Plofsky: Mr.

[44:17] Kevin Jager: Brade on the piano.

[44:19] Bryan Plofsky: Well, Oliver's a good one too.

[44:20] Kevin Jager: You do Oliver and then the artful dodger, and then you turn into Bill Congress.

[44:24] Bryan Plofsky: Anything with kids really is like then you you can start younger.

[44:28] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[44:29] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, the ferryman.

[44:30] Kevin Jager: You started the 19 children.

[44:38] Bryan Plofsky: So funny.

[44:39] Kevin Jager: I wore my shirt the other day.

[44:42] Bryan Plofsky: I just want to say I do think that uh uh all Tony's count.

[44:47] Kevin Jager: They do not have to be competitive.

[44:48] Bryan Plofsky: Thank you.

[44:49] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[44:50] Bryan Plofsky: Thank you for clarifying, Brian.

[44:52] Kevin Jager: Thank you.

[44:52] Bryan Plofsky: Yes.

[44:52] Kevin Jager: I didn't want to.

[44:53] Bryan Plofsky: Just in case you were ever nominated for a Tony.

[44:55] Kevin Jager: Now they won't go back and hear the slander.

[44:57] Bryan Plofsky: I can't pull this clip.

[44:59] Kevin Jager: They can't go to J.

[45:02] Bryan Plofsky: Or do you get a special Tony and me and me and Kevin just go up and get it and says, Brian doesn't think this counts, so we're gonna take this on his path.

[45:10] Kevin Jager: I call the top half.

[45:11] Bryan Plofsky: Okay.

[45:12] Kevin Jager: Um just the spinny part as a next one.

[45:15] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, I did that's literally that's all I need.

[45:18] Elliott Mattox: Elliot, your turn.

[45:19] Bryan Plofsky: Okay, I'm nervous.

[45:20] Elliott Mattox: Take a random number.

[45:22] Bryan Plofsky: Um, in honor of Beetlejuice three.

[45:24] Elliott Mattox: Perfect.

[45:25] Bryan Plofsky: You can't pick 39 though, because I already picked it.

[45:28] Elliott Mattox: Well, as I've told you, this list of only 17 songs long.

[45:34] Bryan Plofsky: Okay.

[45:36] Elliott Mattox: Let me scroll up to the case.

[45:37] Bryan Plofsky: We're only know the plot, but I'll try.

[45:38] Elliott Mattox: Millie Shapiro.

[45:39] Bryan Plofsky: I don't either, so figure it out.

[45:40] Elliott Mattox: Millie Shapiro.

[45:41] Bryan Plofsky: Shapiro, yes.

[45:42] Elliott Mattox: Respect to her name.

[45:43] Bryan Plofsky: Respect to her special Tony.

[45:45] Elliott Mattox: Okay.

[45:46] Bryan Plofsky: Okay.

[45:49] Elliott Mattox: She is dead.

[45:52] Bryan Plofsky: She's gonna get married.

[45:55] Elliott Mattox: But I don't know the plot of this.

[45:58] Bryan Plofsky: Bride.

[45:59] Elliott Mattox: She's a dead girl.

[46:01] Bryan Plofsky: And she's blue, I think.

[46:04] Elliott Mattox: This is Tim Burton.

[46:05] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[46:05] Elliott Mattox: One day more.

[46:06] Bryan Plofsky: Corpse pride, one day more.

[46:08] Kevin Jager: Amazing.

[46:10] Elliott Mattox: She's dead.

[46:13] Bryan Plofsky: At least I think she is what is this movie.

[46:16] Kimberly Cooper: Uh-oh.

[46:17] Bryan Plofsky: And Elliott, pick another number and I'll have a turn.

[46:20] Elliott Mattox: Okay.

[46:20] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, I get to pick your number.

[46:22] Elliott Mattox: And don't pick or 39, or what did you think?

[46:26] Bryan Plofsky: Well, okay.

[46:27] Bryan Plofsky: So it's March 1st of 22.

[46:30] Elliott Mattox: So I'm gonna say seven.

[46:36] Bryan Plofsky: Perfect.

[46:37] Kevin Jager: Who's to say?

[46:38] Bryan Plofsky: Oh dear.

[46:41] Kevin Jager: What's what's it gonna be, boy?

[46:44] Elliott Mattox: Oh, I can almost sing the actual lyrics.

[46:47] Kevin Jager: Ooh, uh twist.

[46:49] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, seriously.

[46:51] Elliott Mattox: Okay.

[46:54] Elliott Mattox: Then when your friends come to get you to go to a cave to find a boat.

[47:00] Kevin Jager: You will be found.

[47:01] Bryan Plofsky: There is treasure on the boat.

[47:04] Kevin Jager: Pirates of the Caribbean.

[47:07] Bryan Plofsky: Goonies?

[47:08] Kevin Jager: Goonies.

[47:08] Bryan Plofsky: But the yes, the Goonies.

[47:12] Kevin Jager: Good job, Kevin.

[47:14] Bryan Plofsky: Was the scary man that you meant Chonk?

[47:17] Kevin Jager: Yeah, I couldn't remember if he was good or bad.

[47:19] Bryan Plofsky: But scared of him for a little bit.

[47:21] Kevin Jager: No, not he.

[47:22] Bryan Plofsky: Chonk isn't a little portly child.

[47:24] Kevin Jager: No, the wild like the chocolate bars?

[47:26] Bryan Plofsky: Oh no, the what's he?

[47:27] Kevin Jager: What do they call him?

[47:29] Bryan Plofsky: Sloth.

[47:30] Kevin Jager: Sloth.

[47:30] Bryan Plofsky: That's what it is.

[47:31] Kevin Jager: Sloth.

[47:32] Bryan Plofsky: What what um what character in a movie scared you to death that really shouldn't have?

[47:37] Kevin Jager: Like not a scary character, but scared the shit out of you.

[47:40] Bryan Plofsky: For me, it was Grandmother Willow in Pocahontas.

[47:44] Kevin Jager: Really?

[47:44] Bryan Plofsky: Interesting.

[47:45] Kevin Jager: Very scared.

[47:46] Bryan Plofsky: Ran out of the movie theater.

[47:47] Kevin Jager: Interesting.

[47:48] Bryan Plofsky: I mean, mine is Frumusara.

[47:50] Kevin Jager: From her on the roof movie.

[47:54] Bryan Plofsky: Okay.

[47:55] Kevin Jager: That's a good one.

[47:56] Bryan Plofsky: That is a good one.

[47:58] Kevin Jager: And a rooster from Annie.

[48:00] Bryan Plofsky: Because when they like chase her up the bad guy.

[48:03] Kevin Jager: Oh, awful.

[48:04] Bryan Plofsky: Sure, sure.

[48:05] Kevin Jager: Kevin?

[48:06] Kevin Jager: Um question.

[48:09] Bryan Plofsky: Um.

[48:10] Kevin Jager: That's a really good question.

[48:11] Bryan Plofsky: I'm trying to think who do you want to host the podcast?

[48:16] Kevin Jager: Maybe I should.

[48:18] Bryan Plofsky: Maybe I should host a podcast.

[48:20] Kevin Jager: Rather you drink.

[48:21] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[48:22] Kevin Jager: He's just Christopher Walken, but in like literally everything he does.

[48:27] Bryan Plofsky: Like, I still am kind of scared of Christopher Walken.

[48:30] Kevin Jager: Peter Pan Live was scary.

[48:31] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, I don't know.

[48:32] Kevin Jager: I just, he scares me.

[48:33] Bryan Plofsky: He's he's a little scary.

[48:34] Kevin Jager: I loved it.

[48:36] Bryan Plofsky: Of course you did.

[48:37] Kevin Jager: I was just talking about it today.

[48:39] Bryan Plofsky: It was still fun.

[48:40] Kevin Jager: They're all still fun.

[48:51] Bryan Plofsky: We got we got a close up ballad with Kelly O'Hara.

[48:55] Kevin Jager: Okay, we should be sending them flowers.

[48:58] Bryan Plofsky: Thank you.

[48:59] Kevin Jager: We should be sending Telsey and Company flowers.

[49:03] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, is that is that what she says?

[49:05] Kevin Jager: Tender Shepherd, which is like the Telsi office.

[49:07] Bryan Plofsky: The Telsey office flowers.

[49:09] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[49:09] Bryan Plofsky: I just don't understand why they're like those off those flowers to the wrong office.

[49:14] Kevin Jager: That's such a weird opening number to a show.

[49:17] Bryan Plofsky: Like the fact that Peter Pan is so fun and like adventurous, but like the opening number is like Tender Shepherd.

[49:25] Kevin Jager: Well, it's a lullaby, because then they have to go into their dreamland.

[49:28] Bryan Plofsky: I know they're going to sleep.

[49:29] Kevin Jager: It's a very weird open.

[49:31] Bryan Plofsky: And then maybe your kids fall asleep for the two and a half hour show, and you don't have to deal with it.

[49:34] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[49:35] Bryan Plofsky: But then Peter Pan sings like a lullaby.

[49:38] Kevin Jager: I know a place where I dreams are born.

[49:42] Bryan Plofsky: Like it's.

[49:44] Kevin Jager: Never land.

[49:45] Bryan Plofsky: You want to go.

[49:47] Kevin Jager: Full grown man are you watching playing Peter Pan.

[49:54] Bryan Plofsky: Like an opera.

[49:57] Kevin Jager: I want to age through.

[50:00] Bryan Plofsky: Another one to age through.

[50:02] Kevin Jager: You start as the youngest boy.

[50:04] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, and you go all the way up to SME.

[50:07] Kevin Jager: SME is older than Hook.

[50:09] Bryan Plofsky: I assume SME is older.

[50:10] Kevin Jager: That depends on the casting.

[50:11] Bryan Plofsky: Or you can play, you could do Wendy, and then you could do like is there a tank in the stage?

[50:17] Kevin Jager: It's a light.

[50:19] Bryan Plofsky: She's just gonna revival, there will be an actual person playing Tink.

[50:24] Kevin Jager: And so then they can age through that.

[50:26] Bryan Plofsky: And then sometimes in high schools there's a Peter Pan V.

[50:30] Kevin Jager: Of course, of course.

[50:31] Bryan Plofsky: And then you get to play the mother on a tour.

[50:34] Kevin Jager: Like a some kind of like 10th anniversary tour.

[50:36] Bryan Plofsky: You go out as a mom.

[50:38] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[50:38] Bryan Plofsky: So let's Hannigan Captain Hook.

[50:40] Kevin Jager: Let's make Captain Hook a woman.

[50:42] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, fascinating.

[50:44] Kevin Jager: That's actually fascinating to like make Captain Hook the woman, but played by the mother, and it deals more with like her.

[50:50] Bryan Plofsky: Instead of it or her mood.

[50:52] Kevin Jager: Oh, Kelly O'Hara as Captain Hook.

[50:55] Bryan Plofsky: Oh my god.

[50:56] Kevin Jager: Love it.

[50:56] Bryan Plofsky: I mean, that sounds so pristine.

[51:08] Bryan Plofsky: Oh.

[51:09] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[51:09] Elliott Mattox: Isn't the dad already in it?

[51:11] Bryan Plofsky: The dad is Hook, usually.

[51:13] Kimberly Cooper: And then the mom doesn't appear again.

[51:15] Elliott Mattox: And then you just and then the mom just hangs.

[51:17] Kevin Jager: You gotta add a boo box.

[51:19] Elliott Mattox: A what?

[51:20] Kevin Jager: A boo box?

[51:21] Elliott Mattox: Not the boob box.

[51:22] Bryan Plofsky: From Hook.

[51:23] Kevin Jager: No?

[51:23] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, where they stick him in the box.

[51:25] Bryan Plofsky: Oh.

[51:26] Elliott Mattox: I have I have real blind spots with movies.

[51:28] Kevin Jager: Don't they stick Glenn Close in the boo box?

[51:31] Elliott Mattox: Glenn Close is playing a male pirate who gets stuck in the box.

[51:34] Bryan Plofsky: Or yeah, like just for funsies.

[51:36] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[51:37] Elliott Mattox: Shan called in and was like, Can I come to the set for a day?

[51:40] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah.

[51:41] Elliott Mattox: So anyway.

[51:42] Bryan Plofsky: Um, that was plot points.

[51:45] Kevin Jager: Oh, yeah.

[51:46] Bryan Plofsky: We're right.

[51:46] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[51:49] Bryan Plofsky: Um, cool. So let's talk about the podcast.

[51:52] Elliott Mattox: Um Equity One.

[51:55] Bryan Plofsky: I know you're on this one. Let's talk about Broadway. Are you having fun? Is it a good time? Did you have fun? Did you like us?

[52:01] Elliott Mattox: So much fun. Um, you're on a little hiatus now, but um, you know, you can always go back and listen to all the episodes, which are fantastic. But talk a little bit about like, you know, what your experience was is doing that and what you find enjoyable about it, specifically the episodes. We'd love to hear more about that because we've never actually talked to you about it.

[52:20] Elliott Mattox: I know, and it's interesting because like we we're not too far off in when we started podcasting. Like, there weren't really any theater podcasts, and then and you all definitely were first, but like this was like in a time where there weren't as many podcasts. Not everyone had a podcast.

[52:35] Elliott Mattox: Like it is now. Um, it's really fun. You know, uh, Caleb, my co-host and I started it. We're best friends, um, college roommates, we've known each other forever. And we'd always been like looking for something creative to do together, but we never really like landed on anything.

[52:54] Elliott Mattox: Like at one point, there was like a you know, a web series. At one point, it was a bl you know, blah, blah, blah. The things we talk about with our friends that never see the light of day. We know. And so finally, it just kind of like, I think I was I was off out of town on a contract. He was visiting me, and we were on FaceTime with my partner, and he was just listening to us laughing and just enjoying hearing our, you know, talking to each other.

[53:20] Elliott Mattox: And he was like, You guys should have a podcast. Like, this is this is fun. I'm entertained by the two of you. And then uh his partner now fiancé came up with the name, um, which we loved the idea of the equity one, because it's just like a for anyone who doesn't know, like that's like slang for like the drink you have between shows.

[53:41] Elliott Mattox: Like, it's fine if you have one, you can have one drink. Um so we just started with you know a $20 mic from Amazon, and I don't know, it's it's evolved into something completely different. And it is really fun.

[53:55] Elliott Mattox: Um we love to take hiatus. Yeah, everything's okay. Anyone who's concerned, we just like we first and foremost started it as something fun to do together. And so whenever it gets not fun to do together, we stop because it's like we want it's our friendship first.

[54:16] Elliott Mattox: And so if if it's too much business, if the only times we've seen each other are talking about the podcast, recording the podcast, you know, putting out social media, whatever, then we're like, maybe we take a break.

[54:29] Kevin Jager: That's hard. Because like we we've been working so long, we absolutely hate each other.

[54:34] Elliott Mattox: Yeah.

[54:35] Kevin Jager: The three of us is like we absolutely say a nice thing, Kevin, about how we make sure we schedule friends time.

[54:41] Elliott Mattox: Oh, I absolutely. Because there was a moment in time where we were like, can we all just come hang out and be friends? And like go to do something.

[54:49] Kevin Jager: Totally. When we were doing this every week, we had to schedule friend time.

[54:53] Elliott Mattox: Um it's hard. Now that we do actual seasons, um it's really helped not that we were ever like We learned the joys of hiatus.

[55:04] Kevin Jager: Yeah, it's great because then like when we're off season, we like each other, and then we're on season, we hate each other.

[55:09] Elliott Mattox: You know, we live in the same building, but we still do it on Zoom.

[55:16] Kevin Jager: Well, and that was another thing, like we hate Zoom recording, like it's I know you all understand. It's it's such a different energy.

[55:28] Elliott Mattox: And for us, we were like our favorite part of it is that energy right there, and it just is we were like, we're not getting it.

[55:36] Kevin Jager: Yeah, so we're not even getting what we like from it.

[55:38] Elliott Mattox: So on Zoom, it becomes about the interview and less about like the camaraderie, because one Zoom cuts you off if you overlap with someone else, and two, it's it's obviously just not the same.

[55:50] Kevin Jager: So I we totally understand that.

[55:52] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, yeah. And the amount of times early pandemic where we would log off, and then I was just drunk alone in my apartment, and my cheeks were like emoting for so long.

[56:00] Kevin Jager: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a it's a very different, more exhausting way to make content.

[56:07] Elliott Mattox: And we did it, you know, during the pandemic, and when we had you all on, um, we did we did like we were doing like a happy hour when everyone was doing like things, live stream things.

[56:17] Kevin Jager: Like it was like we were all like, okay, like let's make this fun for ourselves.

[56:22] Elliott Mattox: And then it got to a point where it's like all of your friends went live on Instagram. You got every single and then it's like it's like two months later, we were like, oh my god, like we can't do this anymore.

[56:33] Kevin Jager: And then there's nothing to talk about, especially being like theater. I was like, I was like, I don't want to hear, I don't want to hear about sorry, you being depressed about the Broadway being not open because I'm depressed about it.

[56:45] Elliott Mattox: So I don't want to hear about it. Right. Totally. So, you know, we just kind of ride the wave of like when we're recording, when we're not.

[56:52] Kevin Jager: But all that to say, but you put up better long story long. It's more fun.

[56:56] Elliott Mattox: We want to listen to you when you're into it and excited about it. I don't want to listen to you being like, welcome to the Broadway's.

[57:02] Bryan Plofsky: Exactly.

[57:03] Elliott Mattox: Yeah. Well, and that's why we like you were saying, we just finished up a series um of like of a like a mini series um called Hungover, where we talked to four different people um from before rehearsals, during rehearsals, and then once their show had um had started performances again.

[57:24] Kevin Jager: Cool.

[57:24] Elliott Mattox: And just kind of like what the process was like, how they were feeling, um, from the like happiness to like the the fatigue to maybe some difficulties they faced with you know the COVID protocols, etc.

[57:38] Elliott Mattox: So that was an interesting thing to us because we were like we're interested in that. So um, and we're really proud of it, and also we got to take like fun pictures for it.

[57:46] Kevin Jager: So that's um, so if you if that's interesting to you, we we interviewed great people Tim Hughes, Chris Medlin, um uh Brittany Coleman, and um Pierre Jean Gonzalez, who's a good lineup who you did you see in Hamilton, right?

[58:03] Bryan Plofsky: He's he's starring in Hamilton on the tour.

[58:06] Elliott Mattox: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. As Hamilton?

[58:08] Kevin Jager: As Hamilton.

[58:09] Elliott Mattox: The title.

[58:11] Bryan Plofsky: He saw an understudy.

[58:12] Kevin Jager: Um Kevin may not. Did you see Blaine?

[58:15] Elliott Mattox: I saw I saw him.

[58:16] Kevin Jager: We saw Nick.

[58:21] Elliott Mattox: Nick.

[58:22] Kevin Jager: I'll tell you in a second.

[58:25] Bryan Plofsky: Jane.

[58:29] Kevin Jager: What was he?

[58:30] Elliott Mattox: He was very good.

[58:31] Kevin Jager: We kept talking about his head.

[58:34] Elliott Mattox: Oh, I don't know what he's doing.

[58:35] Kevin Jager: About his head.

[58:36] Elliott Mattox: Very pleasing.

[58:36] Kevin Jager: I don't know what to do.

[58:37] Elliott Mattox: Listen, sometimes in the the period costumes, I say this about Jay that he I think he would look very good in the period costumes with those very, very high collars and the trimminess.

[58:46] Kevin Jager: There's like a head to neck ratio that is very pleasing to the eye.

[58:51] Elliott Mattox: Sure.

[58:53] Kevin Jager: I cannot explain.

[58:54] Elliott Mattox: But it's fun. And we had playbills.

[58:57] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, I don't know where it is. On that note, this does bring us to the end of our episode.

[59:02] Bryan Plofsky: But before we go, let's do stage door stories. What about you? It's been a while, Elliott, since you've been at a stage door.

[59:11] Elliott Mattox: Like like like attending a stage door, like stage dooring.

[59:14] Bryan Plofsky: Either way.

[59:15] Elliott Mattox: Either way.

[59:15] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[59:20] Elliott Mattox: It's not interesting being an actor going through stage tour lines. I mean, it is interesting talking to the the people, but like my experience is not like doesn't.

[59:30] Elliott Mattox: It's more interesting for me to talk about when I used to go to the stage door. There are no rules on that.

[59:38] Elliott Mattox: I feel like the story that's like m sticks out in my mind was like I went and saw I came up to the city for um Alice Ripley's last weekend in Next to Normal.

[59:50] Elliott Mattox: So I stood at the stage door line because and she was unpacking her dressing room because she was leaving the show. So literally me and like 15 other people stood outside of the booth.

[1:00:08] Kevin Jager: Yep.

[1:00:09] Elliott Mattox: The booth until literally like midnight.

[1:00:15] Kevin Jager: While she was just like taking down her dressing room?

[1:00:18] Elliott Mattox: Yes, but then when she came down with all her boxes, she did the stage door and talked to every single one of us and did her bubble letters on our posters.

[1:00:25] Kevin Jager: Wow.

[1:00:26] Elliott Mattox: And like literally, my mother, I was, I don't know, 16, 17. She she stayed with me for a while, and then she was like, Sweetie, I have to, I can't stand here.

[1:00:38] Elliott Mattox: So she left me, went to the hotel, and at that point I was like old enough where I would like, you know, I would like walk, you know, I would go to BDC by myself and then like shower and meet her at a restaurant or something.

[1:00:50] Elliott Mattox: But um, but yeah. Staying until like midnight something to get Alice Ripley's bubble signature on my next to normal poster is yeah.

[1:01:03] Elliott Mattox: And then just people just being very sweet. I was very lucky to um have a lot of like I had I had a mentor who like went to my dance studio and um and then kind of and was in a chorus line and a little mermaid, and so she was very much a mentor to me.

[1:01:17] Elliott Mattox: So I was always going backstage to see shows, like to meet people and see backstage areas, and so I was very lucky in that sense to like stage door a lot, but also get to like go back and like see the theater and um have that kind of experience.

[1:01:32] Bryan Plofsky: So cool.

[1:01:33] Elliott Mattox: I did it a lot when I was younger.

[1:01:35] Bryan Plofsky: Awesome. Um I love that. Well, that does bring us to the end of our episode. Thank you so much for joining us.

[1:01:40] Bryan Plofsky: We really appreciate it. Everybody go see Beetlejuice, get your Beetlejuice tickets. Um you can say Beetlejuice a lot with if you if it's un if you break it up.

[1:01:50] Kevin Jager: Spoken unbroken.

[1:01:52] Elliott Mattox: Spoken unbroken.

[1:01:53] Bryan Plofsky: I'm gonna remember that now.

[1:01:54] Elliott Mattox: Yeah.

[1:01:54] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah. Um but Elliott, thank you so much. Where can they find you talking about the weather?

[1:01:59] Elliott Mattox: Um well, you can find me on all social media, especially TikTok at uh my name Elliott Mattox, and that's with two L's and two T's and then two T's again.

[1:02:08] Elliott Mattox: Um and thank you all again for having me. This was so fun.

[1:02:10] Elliott Mattox: And I'm so glad that we finally got to join us. This is really fun.

[1:02:15] Bryan Plofsky: Um thank you so much. You're wonderful.

[1:02:17] Kimberly Cooper: Um, you can follow us at Broadway Set on all social media.

[1:02:21] Bryan Plofsky: Um for TikTok, follow Kimberly, uh Kimber Coops.

[1:02:24] Kimberly Cooper: Um, and uh you can find us on Facebook group uh doing some theater nerdy stuff.

[1:02:30] Bryan Plofsky: Um and then you can also find us uh on Patreon for tons of fun stuff there too.

[1:02:35] Kimberly Cooper: Um but we end every episode with a quote and yeah, I got scared.

[1:02:40] Bryan Plofsky: I was like, we do we do, right?

[1:02:43] Kimberly Cooper: Hey mom, dead mom.

[1:02:45] Bryan Plofsky: I need a little help here.

[1:02:45] Kimberly Cooper: I'm probably talking to myself here, but dead mom, I gotta ask, are you really in the ground?

[1:02:50] Bryan Plofsky: It's been a while since we've done undead mom here.

[1:02:53] Kimberly Cooper: And uh Hey mom, dead mom.

[1:02:55] Bryan Plofsky: But you can find anybody dead mom.

[1:02:59] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, do your song as a monologue.

[1:03:01] Bryan Plofsky: Um, but I uh you can find us wherever you get podcasts, including um uh Stitcher, Spotify, and of course, Apple Podcasts.

[1:03:09] Kimberly Cooper: Rate and review us there.

[1:03:11] Bryan Plofsky: Five stars, please.

[1:03:13] Kimberly Cooper: And thank you.

[1:03:14] Bryan Plofsky: Amen.

[1:03:15] Bryan Plofsky: But again, Elliott, thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it.

[1:03:18] Kimberly Cooper: This was so so fun.

[1:03:20] Bryan Plofsky: Um, but as we end every episode, we raise a glass.

[1:03:22] Elliott Mattox: L L Y the two T's and the L's.

[1:03:26] Bryan Plofsky: Oh, yeah.

[1:03:27] Elliott Mattox: And I can't wait to to be the the plot twist in the cliffhangers.

[1:03:34] Bryan Plofsky: Cheers.

[1:03:38] All: Cheers.