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[0:04] Bryan Plovsky: Did you bring wine?

[0:05] Kevin: I got the glasses.

[0:06] Aaron J. Albano: Hey guys, I made a quiz.

[0:08] Jessie Mueller: I didn't bring anything, but I heard it's a bug.

[0:20] Bryan Plovsky: Hello and welcome to the official Broadwaysted Podcast where we're drunk on theater. I'm your host, Bryan Plovsky, and welcome to the fifth season of Broadwaysted.

[0:30] Kevin: Was season one like six years total?

[0:32] Bryan Plovsky: Yes, yes, it was.

[0:34] Bryan Plovsky: But open your eyes because we're opening up. If I loved you, you'd know that we'd be on the SS Bernard Cohen singing Moonfall Quartet and saying, Hey, what's inside? But you'll never walk alone because you matter to me. You're all the world to me. It might feel so far away, but you are some kind of wonderful with a soft place to land. Rip off those chains because I feel the earth move me to say what baking can do. Also, no good can come from bad. Everything changes, but who is there among us that knows? I always say you're beautiful, so take care of my baby because she used to be mine. I mean, it only takes a taste.

[1:11] Bryan Plovsky: Well, joining us today are the usual bad ideas, including Kevin.

[1:15] Kevin: This was a real nice clam bake.

[1:18] Bryan Plovsky: Jaeger.

[1:19] Kevin: I always love that song because like you cry for half the show, but then everybody stops and is like, let's think about the food.

[1:25] Aaron J. Albano: The food was good.

[1:26] Kevin: The food was good.

[1:27] Kevin: Every show needs a food song. It doesn't matter what the content is. Every show needs a food song.

[1:34] Aaron J. Albano: And giving and making sure the rhyme worked by using the conjugation of et for eating is just like top dollar.

[1:42] Kevin: It's almost like they knew what they were doing, almost.

[1:46] Aaron J. Albano: It's so well done.

[1:47] Bryan Plovsky: Uh, and then Kimberly, our game master, is out on podcast maternity leave. So filling in, we have our allegiance to a wicked Pape Cell and Hamilton cat with Bombay Dreams of being on the line at a spelling bee with Mary and I. I think I got them all. Aaron J. Albano, our unofficial dear babysitter for the hour.

[2:01] Aaron J. Albano: Yep.

[2:02] Bryan Plovsky: I like that.

[2:12] Bryan Plovsky: And with us today is a Tony Winner you've probably seen on Broadway in shows like On a Clear Day You Can See Forever, Nice Work If You Can Get It, The Mystery of Edwin Drood, Beautiful: The Carol King Musical, Waitress, Carousel, The Minutes, and on the new studio cast recording of My Heart Says Go. Let's give a big Broadwaysted welcome to Friend of the Show, Jessie Mueller.

[2:35] Jessie Mueller: Oh, you got it.

[2:40] Jessie Mueller: It's such a welcome. That intro. That was—I give you a lot of props for that.

[2:44] Bryan Plovsky: Well, you're more than—no, go ahead.

[2:47] Jessie Mueller: You got another one?

[2:47] Bryan Plovsky: You're more than welcome to use it for your next bio.

[2:50] Jessie Mueller: I might need you to copy it down for me. My agents, my agent sent me flowers once, I think for an opening, and I can't remember which one it was, but it was very cute because they did sort of that thing and they combined a bunch of like the titles of shows and stuff. And I was like, that was really—it was probably like some intern took a lot of time to do that. And God bless them. But you know what? That intern called her mother in Indiana and was like, Do you know what I did today? And it was like her day.

[3:19] Bryan Plovsky: So that's amazing.

[3:20] Jessie Mueller: Well, let's hope it was that and not the—yeah, fair, fair, fair.

[3:24] Bryan Plovsky: Yeah. Uh well, welcome to Broadwaysted and we're so happy to have you. Um, before we start anything, what are you drinking?

[3:28] Jessie Mueller: What are you drinking?

[3:34] Jessie Mueller: You know what? Right now, I have—well, my cup, my cup is lying. It says Jesus and coffee, amen. But it's not coffee, it's tea. It's just the black tea. What are you all drinking?

[3:48] Bryan Plovsky: Uh Aaron, why don't you start? You haven't been on it in a blend.

[3:51] Aaron J. Albano: I do have a glass of red, my Broadwaysted staple. Um, I have a—turned on to me by Kevin, a Chateau Saint Michelle, or is it Saint Chateau Michelle?

[4:05] Jessie Mueller: Chateau Saint-Michel.

[4:07] Aaron J. Albano: Oh, apologies. Chateau Saint-Michel.

[4:18] Aaron J. Albano: Is she a cab from France?

[4:20] Jessie Mueller: No, it's—wait, Columbia Valley. I think that's in California.

[4:23] Aaron J. Albano: No, Washington State's founding winery.

[4:26] Jessie Mueller: So Washington State. Here we go. But I have my cab salve and my aerator, which we'll probably hear every once in a while. Um, so cheers.

[4:35] Bryan Plovsky: Wait, what does the aerator do?

[4:36] Jessie Mueller: Oh, here we go. Is this like—is this like farting for your wine?

[4:42] Aaron J. Albano: Kind of a little bit. So this is my aerator. The first time that I was on the show, I brought—when we were in person, I brought this with us with me with all of the wine, and every, like, I don't know, 10 minutes, we would have a refill. And every time it goes in, because it like aerates the wine quickly, so you don't have to wait for it. And it makes this function.

[5:12] Jessie Mueller: You know what? It doesn't work on Zoom because it's background noise.

[5:16] Bryan Plovsky: No, I was just thinking, I don't think the mic is picking anything up.

[5:20] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, that makes me so sad.

[5:22] Bryan Plovsky: The end of an era.

[5:24] Jessie Mueller: Truly, I think there's—I think there's a way to get around that though, because I was just having this conversation with somebody. I was trying to do a—it was like a follow-up coaching for a benefit thing that I had done. And this wonderful—this wonderful child was working and was just being such a good sport. And it was like we could not hear each other, hear each other. And it was because Zoom changed something. So like you can't push record or you can't push play on your phone to listen to your backing track and also sing. It just comes out like you hear coming out of the phone, and then the kid like opens their mouth and you hear nothing.

[6:01] Aaron J. Albano: No.

[6:02] Jessie Mueller: We were going through all these settings to try to fit—that's why it made me think about it. It's like original sound for musicians, off, on. There's all these different settings now. So maybe we can figure out how to make your—

[6:09] Bryan Plovsky: Kevin, tell us what you're drinking, and I'll figure it out on my settings.

[6:15] Kevin: Your line are sound.

[6:17] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, I clearly had to try to teach—like you're like, you don't know what to say, and they just keep singing, and you're like—and you don't want to stop them because you're like, oh, that those gestures were so good.

[6:27] Aaron J. Albano: Yeah.

[6:29] Kevin: This Greek acting technique. I've never seen it.

[6:31] Jessie Mueller: So you meant it.

[6:33] Kevin: And right. You don't want to be like, oh my God, don't give up the gift.

[6:37] Jessie Mueller: I was like, stop, stop now. Save the gift.

[6:39] Kevin: Right. Technical difficulties. We're just like waving at the children, me and the teacher.

[6:44] Kevin: I am drinking a large margarita in my mug that I got from Broadway talking about here.

[6:52] Jessie Mueller: Um, is that like a copper, a copper situation?

[6:55] Kevin: Yeah, it like just—it just keeps it cold. So I like it. I put it—I started putting it in the fridge.

[7:00] Jessie Mueller: Oh, you did.

[7:01] Kevin: The cup cold to then keep the drink even colder, and it's been a really cool experience.

[7:07] Jessie Mueller: I mean, I'm happy for you. I'm glad.

[7:09] Kevin: Thank you. I'm proud of it.

[7:10] Bryan Plovsky: Um, I have a beer from the Cape May Brewing Company. So I'm a little far away from Washington State. Um, it is their tan limes brand. Uh, it's a Mexican-style lager with sea salt and lime in it. Um, I'm getting my summer—I'm ready for summer, I'm getting my summer drink on. I got the Hawaiian shirt on, I'm ready to go.

[7:37] Jessie Mueller: You're like, bring it.

[7:41] Bryan Plovsky: That's fair.

[7:43] Jessie Mueller: There it is. We got it.

[7:44] Kevin: You got it?

[7:45] Jessie Mueller: You hear it?

[7:45] Aaron J. Albano: Yeah, yeah, we hear it.

[7:47] Jessie Mueller: There's some farting for you.

[7:50] Kevin: It's kind of like farting through feedback or something.

[7:54] Jessie Mueller: Like when you're on your phone, like, or when you're lying to somebody, you're like, oh, the signal's breaking up.

[7:59] Aaron J. Albano: I totally—it's like, my wine glass is very full. So cheers, everyone.

[8:08] All: Cheers.

[8:09] Jessie Mueller: See, it was worth it.

[8:10] Bryan Plovsky: So, what did you do in your settings?

[8:12] Jessie Mueller: Uh, I just changed it from auto to low.

[8:16] Jessie Mueller: I changed it. So auto will deaden the aerator.

[8:20] Bryan Plovsky: Low will not.

[8:21] Jessie Mueller: Right.

[8:21] Kevin: For all of those.

[8:22] Jessie Mueller: Bring it alive.

[8:22] Bryan Plovsky: Yeah.

[8:24] Jessie Mueller: Listen, we're all right. Seven years of doing this.

[8:28] Kevin: After seven years of doing this, we learn something new every single time.

[8:32] All: We do.

[8:33] Bryan Plovsky: Because y'all are pros. Um, Bryan, what are you drinking?

[8:36] Kevin: Oh, you said that already.

[8:37] Bryan Plovsky: I did.

[8:37] Kevin: Thanks for paying attention.

[8:38] Bryan Plovsky: You're a terrible co-host, Phyllis.

[8:43] Jessie Mueller: I was very focused.

[8:44] Bryan Plovsky: Yeah, I know. Um, but uh, you'll just have to listen and rewind. Um, but um, giving it away.

[8:52] Kevin: Yeah, no, no, no spoilers here, even though we just said it anyway.

[8:55] Bryan Plovsky: Um, so we always start with the hardest and easiest question of all time. Uh, what's your favorite musical?

[9:03] Jessie Mueller: Oh probably—oh man. Probably Into the Woods, Into the Woods, Gypsy, something like that.

[9:12] Bryan Plovsky: Nice, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[9:15] Jessie Mueller: I think you have a question of us.

[9:22] Kevin: Yeah, oh no.

[9:23] Jessie Mueller: I don't know.

[9:24] Kevin: We just met her.

[9:25] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, we have to, yeah.

[9:27] Kevin: We get—yeah, for every 15 minutes we get a pop quiz about you.

[9:32] Jessie Mueller: You should.

[9:33] Kevin: Yeah, absolutely.

[9:34] Jessie Mueller: Right, I'm just turning around on y'all.

[9:36] Kevin: Yeah.

[9:37] Jessie Mueller: Um, I guess, I guess, like were those always your favorite shows? You have nostalgia attached to them?

[9:43] Jessie Mueller: Um, is it—is it—is one obviously like those are two incredibly complex, well-constructed bops of shows, obviously. But like, is there some sort of a like nostalgia there? Or is it just like, I don't know, you've never really questioned it. They've just always been your favorite.

[10:29] Jessie Mueller: Isn't Into the Woods a bop?

[10:29] Kevin: I don't know. It's got some boppiness.

[10:29] Jessie Mueller: It's an emotional bop.

[10:29] Kevin: If you leave—if you leave an intermission, yeah, right.

[10:29] Jessie Mueller: It's quite chorus. You can like do a good jog at the gym too.

[10:29] Kevin: Yeah, you could.

[10:29] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, it's a good pace.

[10:29] Kevin: I wish.

[10:29] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, good six—six miles per hour, like, yeah, yeah.

[10:29] Kevin: Actually, chasers at the marathon use it.

[10:29] Jessie Mueller: Sure, that's definitely how I used to listen to it. It was at the gym. Um, no, I think I came to Into the Woods a little bit later. I actually came to stuff like shows like Gypsy early on. I—my parents are actors, and so I saw a lot of theater when I was little, and I remember Gypsy being one of the shows that I saw when I was really young and like being obsessed with the strippers. I just wanted to play all the strippers. I wanted to be Miss Zappa.

[10:48] Kevin: Which one was your favorite?

[10:49] Jessie Mueller: Probably Miss Zeppa. Although, I mean—

[10:50] Jessie Mueller: No. That's Bob.

[10:50] Kevin: Is that Bump It with the Trumpet?

[10:55] Kevin: Yes, she's the one with the trumpet. Then uh, uh, Zaz Mzeppa, then Electra's next.

[11:03] Jessie Mueller: She gets the lights, right? And then Dressy Tessy Tour gets point shoes, which was also very intriguing as a young girl for me. I took dance when I was little and it was like, oh, but she gets to wear point shoes. So it was really a toss-up. So I think if you'd asked me at that point in my life who I'd like to play, it would have been very difficult for me to give you the answer.

[11:23] Kevin: Yeah, yeah.

[11:24] Jessie Mueller: Well, actually, that's interesting because we ask a question here where it's like, if you could pick one show and kind of like play every role in it over the course of your lifetime.

[11:35] Kevin: Oh yeah, like go through it, yeah.

[11:36] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, like Gypsy's a popular answer for that. Like, and if that's your answer, great. But like, are there any others that like that kind of stick out to you?

[11:44] Jessie Mueller: Maybe Into the Woods just because I feel like you could do that with that show. You could kind of move your way through it sort of as you change and go through your career and um, yeah, like I haven't done the cow yet.

[12:00] Kevin: Of course, yeah.

[12:03] Jessie Mueller: That's the whole art.

[12:04] Kevin: That's a good art, yeah.

[12:06] Jessie Mueller: You know what I mean? There's room to grow. That cow goes through a lot. That cow has probably—I just saw it on tour.

[12:11] Kevin: And a great death scene.

[12:13] Jessie Mueller: Amazing.

[12:14] Kevin: Great death scene.

[12:14] Jessie Mueller: A resurrection scene.

[12:16] Kevin: A resurrection.

[12:17] Jessie Mueller: Not a lot of songs, but easy on the game.

[12:20] Kevin: Yeah, yeah.

[12:21] Jessie Mueller: Listen. There's gonna be a point in your life when like you're out drinking and doing all that fun. Like you just need an easy show to slide into.

[12:26] Kevin: Sure.

[12:26] Jessie Mueller: You know, just some great jokes.

[12:28] Kevin: And does the cow survive in act two? Do we even know?

[12:35] Jessie Mueller: Oh, doesn't the cow—doesn't the cow eventually die?

[12:37] Kevin: It's like resurrected.

[12:39] Jessie Mueller: It's resurrected.

[12:41] Kevin: Not a lot of songs, but easy on the game.

[12:48] Jessie Mueller: Oh man, I thought the cow actually died when they like—like it like eats all the stuff.

[12:54] Kevin: If they milk it, it falls over and dies, but then it all works, right?

[12:58] Jessie Mueller: I think so. Because first they're like, oh, the cow's dead, and she's like, I can bring it back.

[13:03] Kevin: The witch is like I can bring it back to life, right?

[13:04] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, but then it stays alive, doesn't it?

[13:07] Kevin: I don't think the feed the hair of the corn, right?

[13:11] Jessie Mueller: Because it's gotta be milk.

[13:13] Kevin: I know, I was like, we all saw Cemetery.

[13:16] Jessie Mueller: So if it did come back, like eventually it was evil and tried to kill Jack.

[13:21] Kevin: Right, exactly.

[13:22] Jessie Mueller: So I just googled Into the Woods on Wikipedia, and I did a control F for cow, and cow does not appear.

[13:31] Kevin: I didn't read, but cow does not appear as a search in act two.

[13:36] Bryan Plovsky: Well, uh because I feel like I remember like how is smart the cow got out of town before the giant got there.

[13:42] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, especially of like concrete evidence that we didn't even read Wikipedia, we just control F Wikipedia.

[13:50] Kevin: Yeah, not seat cow. I'm sure all of our listeners will let us know how right.

[13:56] Jessie Mueller: I'm sure some of them would be like, well, actually, the cow appears—there's an allusion to the cow in Sondheim's next piece.

[14:09] Kevin: Say what? Marile is about the cow. Is about a cow. Yeah, yeah. Perfect. And about all symbolic being black and white, Kenneth. Like exactly. And sometimes you want, but doesn't always throw it. Does the cow doesn't screen for free. Exactly, exactly. And then ages backwards, just like the show. Just like the show. Exactly. And that has been Sondheim Corner. You're welcome. Yeah. If you're now very confused, uh it's all Wikipedia to uh find some of his other shows that we haven't ruined for you. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Um The Frogs. Um but um cricket? Cricket? Yeah. I should say rip it. No, no, I think I think I just I deserved a cricket on that one for sure. Um cool. Well, do you know where else we find crickets? Where? In the country.

[15:01] Kevin: Tuesdays in the corner with Kevin. It's Kevin's Corner. Hey, hey, welcome to Kevin's Corner, the best part of the show. Because it's my part and I get to do whatever I want with it. And so um, we are talking about your next recording. Spoiler alert to everybody, uh, that's coming out called My Heart Says Go. Yep. Out now. So I thought we would play a cool Kevin's Corner called My Resume Says What?

[15:36] Kevin: Okay. So what I did was I went to Wikipedia and looked up all the theatrical productions that you've been in according to controlled. Oh god. And so what I've done is I have changed, like I've taken the name of the show and kind of like reworded it. So it's like I've said it differently. So I'm gonna say the show, like what the title is, but my different way of saying it, and you all are. Are you ready? And if you need if you need help, you can call for help for the Peanut Gallery. I can phone uh Bryan or Aaron. Okay, yes, you got it.

[16:16] Kevin: Okay, so the first one is Merry Go Round.

[16:21] Jessie Mueller: Carousal.

[16:23] Kevin: There it is. Okay. And also, you kind of already are living through that show if you didn't know. Like I have a little bit.

[16:31] Jessie Mueller: Like maybe I'll play Natty Fowler someday.

[16:33] Kevin: That's what I was gonna say. You got you have a track here.

[16:35] Jessie Mueller: For jigger.

[16:36] Kevin: Yeah. Um he's lukewarm about me.

[16:42] Jessie Mueller: He's lukewarm about me.

[16:44] Kevin: She loves me?

[16:45] Jessie Mueller: No.

[16:46] Kevin: Yes.

[16:46] Jessie Mueller: That is correct. I also forgot to say these are opposites.

[16:53] Kevin: It's Kevin's corner. I'm making things up.

[16:55] Jessie Mueller: Okay, great.

[16:56] Kevin: Uh the next one is customer.

[17:00] Jessie Mueller: Waitress.

[17:01] Kevin: There it is.

[17:02] Jessie Mueller: Customer.

[17:05] Kevin: Okay, I got Mark with what I've said. I love my customer. Next one.

[17:09] Kevin: The silent woman.

[17:14] Jessie Mueller: Silent woman.

[17:16] Kevin: The loud man.

[17:18] Jessie Mueller: Hang on.

[17:27] Kevin: The devilishly handsome Norm Lewis may have been a part of this.

[17:31] Jessie Mueller: The music man.

[17:33] Kevin: There it is.

[17:36] Jessie Mueller: Devilishly handsome.

[17:39] Kevin: Um the minutes.

[17:47] Jessie Mueller: There it is.

[17:50] Kevin: That's the opposite of yeah, of course.

[17:50] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, of course.

[17:54] Kevin: Um carpets.

[18:10] Jessie Mueller: Did I get muted?

[18:12] Kevin: No, we're here.

[18:13] Jessie Mueller: You've stumped me.

[18:14] Kevin: That's why there's no sound.

[18:15] Jessie Mueller: Oh.

[18:16] Kevin: All right. Can I phone a friend?

[18:18] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, phone a friend.

[18:19] Kevin: You said it was ceilings?

[18:21] Jessie Mueller: Uh carpets.

[18:22] Kevin: Carpets.

[18:24] Jessie Mueller: So I went to ceilings.

[18:25] Kevin: Ceilings, roof, roofs.

[18:28] Jessie Mueller: Oh, I guess those are all way better opposites than what I came up with.

[18:31] Jessie Mueller: Oh, wait. Okay. Now that we know the carpet is floor.

[18:35] Kevin: Basement.

[18:37] Jessie Mueller: Attic.

[18:38] Kevin: Carp carpet?

[18:40] Jessie Mueller: It's a musical.

[18:41] Kevin: I know it's a musical called Called Basement.

[18:47] Jessie Mueller: David Hyde Pierce was in it on the Broadway.

[18:49] Kevin: Oh.

[18:50] Jessie Mueller: Oh.

[18:51] Kevin: Curtains.

[18:52] Jessie Mueller: Curtains.

[18:53] Kevin: Yeah.

[18:55] Jessie Mueller: I don't know.

[18:56] Kevin: They're on opposite parts.

[18:57] Jessie Mueller: I don't know.

[18:58] Kevin: I'm not sure I'm my apartment.

[18:59] Jessie Mueller: Are you sure where you're going?

[19:01] Kevin: Yeah, I can do the math now.

[19:02] Jessie Mueller: Now that I know the answer.

[19:06] Kevin: Maybe opposites wasn't the best expectation set.

[19:10] Jessie Mueller: Okay, so not exactly the same, but kind of different.

[19:13] Kevin: That's what it is.

[19:14] Jessie Mueller: Semi-related. Let's go with that.

[19:16] Kevin: The next one is the neoclassical play.

[19:30] Jessie Mueller: Get loud, it's modern.

[19:32] Kevin: Um yeah.

[19:36] Jessie Mueller: Shout the mob musical.

[19:38] Kevin: Really?

[19:41] Jessie Mueller: This is all deeply unfortunate.

[19:43] Kevin: Did you call it shh neoclassical drama?

[19:45] Jessie Mueller: What did you call it?

[19:47] Kevin: Neoclassical straight play.

[19:50] Jessie Mueller: Amazing.

[19:52] Kevin: Umerie.

[20:03] Jessie Mueller: Plant charcuterie.

[20:07] Kevin: You add music and editing.

[20:08] Jessie Mueller: The plant recuterie.

[20:11] Kevin: Plant charcuterie.

[20:16] Jessie Mueller: Charcuterie would be what?

[20:18] Kevin: Salad?

[20:18] Jessie Mueller: Like I got I think I got it.

[20:21] Kevin: Okay.

[20:22] Jessie Mueller: Animal crackers.

[20:24] Kevin: That's it.

[20:28] Jessie Mueller: Plant charcuterie.

[20:30] Kevin: Nice.

[20:31] Jessie Mueller: Um be a stranger in Miami.

[20:43] Kevin: Uh this is truly just a test of how well Jessie knows her own resume.

[20:50] Jessie Mueller: Yeah.

[20:51] Kevin: That's really what I should be doing.

[20:53] Jessie Mueller: What have I done?

[20:55] Kevin: I got it.

[20:56] Jessie Mueller: That's really thrown me.

[20:59] Kevin: What's the opposite of Miami?

[21:01] Jessie Mueller: The boys from Syracuse, but I never did that show.

[21:03] Kevin: Um think of what was the first part of it?

[21:05] Jessie Mueller: Be a stranger in Miami.

[21:09] Kevin: Stranger.

[21:10] Jessie Mueller: Something about a friend.

[21:12] Kevin: Something about a friend or neighbor, or what have I done?

[21:15] Jessie Mueller: Um Kevin, this is you're a truly unhinged person.

[21:19] Kevin: Yeah, this is this is quite chaotic.

[21:20] Jessie Mueller: I love it.

[21:22] Kevin: Can we get another hint, Kevin?

[21:24] Jessie Mueller: Uh do you hear that noise?

[21:27] Kevin: It sounds like a clang clang clang.

[21:30] Jessie Mueller: Oh, meet me in St. Louis.

[21:31] Kevin: Yeah.

[21:33] Jessie Mueller: So you're being a stranger in Miami.

[21:36] Kevin: Stranger.

[21:36] Jessie Mueller: Don't be a stranger, Miami.

[21:38] Kevin: You come and meet me in St. Louis.

[21:40] Jessie Mueller: I hear you.

[21:42] Kevin: Okay, next one is a lot of day silence.

[21:42] Jessie Mueller: A lot of day, as in like the day, like a lot.

[21:49] Kevin: A lot of day silence.

[21:57] Jessie Mueller: Okay.

[21:58] Kevin: A little night music.

[22:00] Jessie Mueller: There it is.

[22:01] Kevin: I got that one.

[22:02] Jessie Mueller: I get that one.

[22:05] Kevin: Um she's okay.

[22:12] Jessie Mueller: Beautiful.

[22:13] Kevin: There it is.

[22:17] Jessie Mueller: That was actually the second working title, believe it or not.

[22:20] Kevin: Oh wow.

[22:20] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, yeah.

[22:21] Kevin: Yeah, yeah.

[22:21] Jessie Mueller: When Carol was thinking about what she wanted to call it.

[22:24] Kevin: Sure.

[22:24] Jessie Mueller: Yeah.

[22:25] Kevin: We all make mistakes.

[22:26] Jessie Mueller: We all make mistakes.

[22:29] Kevin: Um, terrible fun, but you can't have it.

[22:33] Jessie Mueller: Nice work if you can get it.

[22:35] Kevin: There it is.

[22:37] Jessie Mueller: Terrible.

[22:38] Kevin: Um, I got two.

[22:39] Jessie Mueller: I got two more for you because the rest are really unhinged.

[22:43] Kevin: Um, the next one is on a foggy evening, you can't see shit.

[22:48] Jessie Mueller: On a clear day, you can see forever.

[22:50] Kevin: There it is.

[22:50] Jessie Mueller: That was your best work.

[22:51] Kevin: That was your best one.

[22:53] Jessie Mueller: That was definitely.

[22:54] Kevin: And then the last one is.

[22:57] Jessie Mueller: How can't you stand still without the ocean on your belly?

[23:06] Kevin: How can you run with a shell on your back?

[23:08] Jessie Mueller: There it is.

[23:11] Kevin: Yep.

[23:11] Jessie Mueller: Yep.

[23:13] Kevin: This has been Kevin's corner.

[23:18] Jessie Mueller: We haven't had an unhinged one like that in a while.

[23:20] Kevin: It's been a minute.

[23:22] Jessie Mueller: Yeah.

[23:23] Kevin: What's sad is you could see when Jessie started to realize how my twisted brain works, and she was like, oh, I get how stupid this game is.

[23:32] Jessie Mueller: I'm all for a stupid game.

[23:34] Kevin: I love a game. Bring it.

[23:36] Jessie Mueller: As long as I don't have to run in this game.

[23:39] Kevin: I'm all for it.

[23:40] Jessie Mueller: Great rule.

[23:41] Kevin: Yeah.

[23:42] Jessie Mueller: No. So now we know a track you can run to.

[23:44] Kevin: Into the woods.

[23:45] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, yeah.

[23:46] Kevin: It's a bop.

[23:48] Jessie Mueller: Yes.

[23:49] Kevin: Um, so we just talked about your resume in the most backwards way possible.

[23:54] Jessie Mueller: Um literally.

[23:56] Kevin: Um but um I guess like looking back on, especially some of your what are considered like contemporary iconic powerhouse roles.

[24:05] Jessie Mueller: Um, what are things that strike you now looking back that maybe didn't like strike you when you were in the moment or even just like recently afterwards?

[24:14] Jessie Mueller: Like, and it doesn't have to be anything specific about it can be something specific about those roles, but just in general, kind of like when when now looking back on some of those, um, is there anything that kind of pops up that's a new sensation or feeling?

[24:27] Jessie Mueller: Oh wow. Uh that's a great question. Uh I guess just because it's funny because they both like Beautiful and Waitress have been on my mind just because they've been sort of we just uh Cynthia Weil just passed and she was um part of the um writing team of Barryman and Cynthia Wild Cynthia Wilberyman. They were a couple and they were really good friends with Carol King and her first husband Jerry Goffin, and they all wrote together at um at a music office in six 1650 Broadway.

[25:01] Jessie Mueller: Um so that show has been on my mind, and I've been talking with a lot of the folks like from the original company that I worked with, and um I guess I don't know. I don't know if it's anything new that's dawning on me, but it but it has a new like that that show has like a whole new life.

[25:23] Jessie Mueller: I mean, it had a great life on Broadway and then it has toured for a long time and now it's being done regionally. Like I I remember a um a sort of friend colleague reaching out and they were doing it in their theater in Texas and they were so excited, and there's all these places around now, umers that are doing it, and it's like such a it's like a little bit wild, but also such a cool thing, such a privilege to have been a part of something that's I guess now in the canon?

[25:50] Kevin: I don't know.

[25:51] Jessie Mueller: No, sure.

[25:52] Kevin: Absolutely.

[25:52] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, it's kind of wild.

[25:54] Kevin: Yeah, I guess a question about beautiful, just because it's this might be a weird question.

[25:59] Jessie Mueller: Go for it.

[25:59] Kevin: Um is there Do you feel like you've been separated enough from it now that you could go see like one of those regional productions?

[26:06] Jessie Mueller: Oh sure, sure. And I've and I've seen it since I was in it. My um my buddy Anika Larson, who played Cynthia Wil. She and I she and I like had a pact because she was leaving, she was on maternity leave for the show um around the time that that I left.

[26:21] Jessie Mueller: And um we were like, we kind of want to see it, but we don't know if it's gonna be weird. What if we go together? And we were like, yeah, yeah, let's go together.

[26:29] Jessie Mueller: And um, and uh honestly, it was so joyful just to see everybody do their thing. Because it's a pretty busy show for everyone in it, and you're always if you're not on stage, you're changing your costumes and or you're you know, running downstairs to get some so it was such a wild thing to be to be in something new like that that had never been done before.

[26:51] Jessie Mueller: I had my sort of picture of maybe what it looked like, or I would go out during tech and watch certain things, but then things got really busy, so it was such it was so cool to actually watch the freaking show and have the experience of going, like, oh my gosh, that's that's what that is, that's what that looks like, and also the funny experience of oh, that's what that's like.

[27:10] Jessie Mueller: I was worried about this, and like no one's looking at me, they're looking over there, like this whole thing is happening over here, or this I thought this was such a big moment, and this is such a uh sort of small or medium moment in the in the sort of arc of the whole thing.

[27:22] Jessie Mueller: It's like to get perspective on that is really kind of wild.

[27:26] Kevin: Yeah, but to just get to see your friends and your colleagues doing their thing and doing it so well, too.

[27:32] Jessie Mueller: That was so exciting. I probably seemed like we were somebody's mom out there because Anika and I were just like, Yay!

[27:37] Kevin: Yay, yeah.

[27:40] Jessie Mueller: Both both Carol King and uh Sarah Borellis have very unique voices, not just like their actual singing voices, but like their melodies and like the way that they kind of like tell stories through music.

[27:54] Kevin: Yeah, totally, right? You hear one of their songs and you know it's them.

[27:57] Jessie Mueller: 100%.

[27:57] Kevin: Yeah, so how is that to be an actor stepping in to like navigate someone's very specific style and voice, but in a character in a show that you have to kind of make it your own and also you know a part of this show instead of just this iconic one person.

[28:19] Jessie Mueller: Like, was that a weird thing to kind of figure out?

[28:23] Kevin: Yeah, sure.

[28:23] Jessie Mueller: And I feel like they were very they were different challenges because the like looking at it in retrospect, the Carol King thing, it was the sort of, you know, is there expectation everybody knows what she sounds like, and how much are we trying to get close to that sound, and how but I think I kept coming back to like what you were saying. She just has this unique voice, not necessarily the actual sound timbre of her voice, which is also unique, but her the feel of her music, the vibe of it, the groove of it, um the delivery of it, and I think the way people feel when they hear her music, and also the way people feel, yeah. When and when they watch her perform, like I I I mean, I just found like every video I could of watching Carol perform, and to me it was about the joyousness she had, and and there was just like there was no filter between like her heart and what she put out into the world, and so I I think I was fairly obsessed in the beginning with trying to get all these technical things, and I wanted to sound just like her, and then I had to really kind of pull away and just sort of remind me, I was like, She's not that kind of a singer, like people love her because she's she's her and she's relatable, and there's this authenticity. So then I went, like, oh great, yeah, just figure that out. Like just uh, you know, just capture the legend, that's all. But um, but somehow through your scene study, you made it harder.

[29:55] Kevin: Kind of at one point.

[29:57] Jessie Mueller: Like there was a there was a relaxation to it and also like, oh God, like what have I really gotten myself into? But um I mean that was that was part of the fun too was the challenge of trying to trying to tap into I don't know, her ma her magic, like what she what she put into the world and and then the Sarah thing, I had been such a big fan of Sarah's music for so long. So I loved her as a writer and a singer. So for me, I think it was a different challenge because I didn't want to sound like I was trying to sound like Sarah, although she wrote the music. I was trying to very much ground it in who we were finding out that the characters were. So um so that to me was sort of kind of releasing any weight that I felt about like, oh, I gotta sound as good as Sarah, or I have to sound like this or that.

Um because it made sense, like the way as she was writing, you know, she's using her voice as she's writing. So some of the vocal parts certainly for that, especially especially the specific character I played for Jenna, were very much in her voice. And you see that too, because like she went on to play the role brilliantly, and you see what a beautiful fit it is. But um, so I have to say she was so generous with me because she was like, We can change keys, whatever you need, because our voices are quite different, like our our breaks are I'm still not convinced she has a break in her voice. I think she just sort of she just sort of soars, but I like I have a break, so yes, figure out how to how to negotiate that and try to um yeah, kind of like like fit in fit it all in my voice. So yeah.

[31:34] Kevin: Cool.

[31:35] Jessie Mueller: Um so let's let's let's talk a little bit about the studio recording in terms of just you know the vocals um yeah sure I guess let's talk a little bit about um my heart says go I guess like so this piece just for those listening it's available wherever you get your music um definitely check it out um it's basically about a first generation college student who decides to drop out of medical school um and uh pursue a singer songwriter career and it it's uh it's a lot about uh the relationship between that person and their father um I guess what drew you creatively what drew you to this what what kind of jumped out at you what did you connect to and then explain kind of how your role fits into to to the narrative yeah sure um well it was funny because uh my first connection was through um uh a buddy of mine a colleague I worked with back in Chicago Matt Hawkins um got in touch with me we had done a show years ago and he was like hey I hope you're well and like life is funny guess what I'm like running the musical theater department at Notre Dame now ha ha and uh congrats on all your success and la it was very sweet I was like it's so nice to hear from you and he was telling me about this student he'd been working with at Notre Dame Jorge Rivera Harans and um he was like this kid is incredible and um here's some early demos of this piece we've been working on together and I'm really interested we're really interested in creating some more demos and this was during the pandemic.

So it was like a buddy of mine and I was like yeah sure I'll I'll listen to this and and then I actually listened to the music. So I think instinctively like I didn't know that much about the project so it wasn't this like the creative poll wasn't there from the beginning, but then I I sort of dove in through the personal connection, knowing Matt, who was working on the piece with Jorge, and um, and then I listened to the music and I was like, oh. And I guess I had only heard two songs, which the character I ended up playing, this character of um the the mother of one of the young women in the piece who befriends the son that you were talking about, sort of this story of the son and his father, and right the son's quest for his passion and his purpose, and how he sort of his path for that and his father's idea of what that is are very different things.

And um, so I played the mother of this this young woman that he befriends on his on his travels and on his journey, and um, and the woman has a lot of challenges, and the the relationship between the mother and daughter is quite fraught at the time that you you meet these characters, and um, there's this the first song I worked on is called Smile Away, and um a beautiful theatricality about it is these two characters are basically they're musically in sync, they are singing the same melody, trading off lyrics, but they are not in the same place physically, so they are working through a similar emotion. And I guess I was just really taken by it because I thought it explored so much not just the relationship between a parent and a child, but um how we I think as we age, how we reflect on what we were taught and whether it was good or bad or healthy or unhelpful, or and I think this piece really explores that.

And the thing that was great about really unique about the song, um, I hope people check it out and listen to it. It's this beautiful metaphor about basically like shit hits the fan, and I learn to just smile it away. And it starts with the daughter, and then you hear the mother coming in with that same idea, and you're like, oh, that's where she learned it. Sure.

[35:24] Kevin: Yeah.

[35:24] Jessie Mueller: And the mother, the mother is has challenges with um alcohol and substance abuse, and um, you know, but but I think it's also beautifully, it's also beautifully written and uh beautifully treated because it gives I think it gives everybody in their situation a lot of humanity and a lot of empathy, and so it it really it's just like a really beautiful human piece that I think people can relate to and find themselves and lots of the different characters. So yeah, it was like a buddy reached out and I was like, hey, cool, I'm not doing anything, there's a pandemic. And then I listened to the music, and I was really taken with with what they had done. And um, but yeah, it wasn't really until this cut to sort of well, we're still sort of in a who knows what's happening.

Are we in a pandemic? Are we not in a pandemic? Who even knows anymore? We don't the world has definitely changed, so now we're in the post times, the after times or whatever. And uh, and then Matt reached out again, and I think I mentioned he works at Notre Dame, he's a professor there, and he had gotten a grant um to continue working on um this sort of like a new works festival that he's doing because he's gotten really interested in creating new work and and seeing what his students want to talk about and what they want to explore and what they want to create, and um, and all you guys, I know you guys are all creators, and so I have a lot of respect for that. And um, and Matt, I think it was really during the pandemic, he was like, you know what?

I just keep thinking about is access and the kind of access that people have to work and new work and stories that need to be told and heard, and so he thought, you know what, I'm not because they'd worked with some staging of this piece and um put a couple of productions and continue to workshop it. But he thought, you know what? I think I'm gonna use this money and I'm gonna make we're gonna do a cast recording. That's what he and Jorge ended up deciding on because they felt like that's the best way for people to have access to this work, and people can hear it, and then they can get in touch with um the creators and say, Hey, I want to do this at my community theater, I want to do this in my college, I want to do this on Broadway, I wanna, you know, whatever it is. I think they were um, you know, always open to the possibilities of how a piece how the piece could grow, but they really just wanted people to hear it.

[37:38] Jessie Mueller: So I think it's really cool. So it was the the original reach out was just to tell you about this guy and tell you about the show.

[37:45] Kevin: Yeah, and then send me a couple, yeah, send me a couple demos that um the writer, Jorge, the composer, had done by himself, like as brilliant young people do, probably like, you know, in his dorm room with his computer, and it was incredible. Yeah, creating, you know, just the the lyrical nuance and complexity and what he was doing structurally with the music and the melodies and the rap, and like it's kind of got a little bit of everything. It reminded me a lot of like what I could see. It was like, well, you you love Lynn Menwell, but like you love Jonathan Larson. You I just felt like I could hear his influences, sure. Um, yeah, and it just got me excited. I was like, if this is what this young person I sound so weird saying that because I'm trying to stop myself from saying kid because he's not a kid, but like right, right.

You know what I mean? What this young person is doing now, as he's just starting to create theater pieces and he's always making music, but I was like, dude, like I just can't wait to see what he continues to do. I think he's really like a bright young person that that the world is going to be the world's gonna be watching.

[38:49] Jessie Mueller: So it's amazing how like sometimes the most inspiring things like come out of left field, like you never know that they're ever gonna show up in your in your life, and then they come to you like in the weirdest times and from the weirdest places.

[39:05] Kevin: Oh absolutely, absolutely.

[39:06] Jessie Mueller: Um yeah, I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that. And then I didn't really get to hear just because of how it came together in the pandemic and the recording process. It was like then when the album came out, I got to hear the whole thing. I hadn't heard the whole thing. I'd read a script, I'd so it's um I just but I find that process really fascinating. I love recording. I love being in a studio. I just like that specific challenge. I like trying to figure out what needs to be um communicated in that way because you you don't have you don't have faces and gestures and jazz hands. Like that's not available to you. Um it's like, oh wait, there's no lighting in costumes. Like, how do we get this across? How do we give the vocal color or nuance or whatever we need to do to like really really let people feel what we're doing? And I I don't know. I just I love it. Plus, you can wear your pajamas.

[39:54] Kevin: The most important part I mean, yeah, yeah.

[39:56] Jessie Mueller: Yeah.

[39:56] Kevin: Um I have pajamas underneath my Hawaiian shirt.

[40:00] Jessie Mueller: As you should.

[40:01] Kevin: Yeah.

[40:02] Jessie Mueller: As you should. I'm wearing Princess Pajama pants.

[40:04] Kevin: Yeah, just my pants.

[40:06] Jessie Mueller: 100%.

[40:07] Kevin: Um cool. Well, if you want to listen to uh My Heart Says Go, um I've linked it in the description of this episode. Uh so just check down there.

[40:13] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, of course.

[40:16] Kevin: Um, check it out, take a listen. Uh, we're gonna talk about it again later this season, uh, with another surprise guest from uh that cast recording. So uh definitely take a listen. Could be anyone, do your homework so you're prepared.

[40:30] Jessie Mueller: Uh so uh yeah, that's that's great. Um, you know what? Let's let's play a game.

[40:33] Kevin: Oh, let's do it.

[40:37] Jessie Mueller: Um great. So this game, I didn't have a title for it.

[40:40] Kevin: Um you're the game master, aren't you?

[40:44] Jessie Mueller: I'm filling in for I'm filling in for Kimberly because she's usually our game master.

[40:48] Kevin: That's right. She's the game master. Hi Kimberly.

[40:50] Jessie Mueller: Hi, Kimberly. Hope you're feeling good.

[40:57] Kevin: Yeah, whatever they do, right?

[40:58] Jessie Mueller: Do people do that?

[41:00] Kevin: Sure.

[41:01] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how yeah, how pregnant is she?

[41:04] Kevin: She's oh she's like she just had the baby.

[41:06] Jessie Mueller: Oh, she just hated the baby.

[41:08] Kevin: So now she's probably like, Where's my wine if I'm not asking?

[41:16] Jessie Mueller: Oof, okay. She's going on roller coaster, she's doing everything she can do.

[41:19] Kevin: Yeah, soft cheeses.

[41:21] Jessie Mueller: Living her best life.

[41:22] Kevin: Yeah, Italian subs, the deli meat.

[41:25] Jessie Mueller: Sure, could be.

[41:35] Kevin: So uh I love it. So, what we're gonna do is we're gonna go to circle and we'll start with Jessie and Jessie. We'll go Jessie, Aaron, Brian, then me. And um, you'll say the name of like a musical, and then Aaron will have to try to use the last word of the musical to start another one.

[41:59] Jessie Mueller: Another musical.

[42:00] Kevin: Oh no.

[42:02] Jessie Mueller: We're gonna see if we can get all the time. I've done this with like music.

[42:06] Kevin: All the way around one.

[42:07] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, yeah.

[42:07] Kevin: Uh, movie.

[42:08] Jessie Mueller: I've done this with movie stars too.

[42:09] Kevin: Musical songs or musical, like musical music, like like title of a movie. We're gonna do anything just to be able to see if we can make connections. So it's just and that's why I was like, should I try to set you up for success?

[42:22] Kevin: Please, at least the first couple.

[42:25] Jessie Mueller: I'm trying to think of a show and then think backwards.

[42:28] Kevin: So don't give you a the something.

[42:31] Jessie Mueller: Don't don't.

[42:32] Kevin: If you give a the, then I oh wait.

[42:35] Jessie Mueller: No, he has to be.

[42:36] Kevin: I'm saying I can't.

[42:37] Jessie Mueller: There's no there's no show that ends in the so I can do that anyway.

[42:41] Kevin: Let's go with that.

[42:42] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, the um oh articles don't count.

[42:45] Kevin: I I'll give you that.

[42:46] Jessie Mueller: Articles don't count.

[42:47] Kevin: I mean you have to take the last word, or a piece of it, I guess.

[42:51] Jessie Mueller: Like if it's like is this possible?

[42:54] Kevin: We'll find out right this second.

[42:56] Jessie Mueller: I know.

[42:58] Kevin: Wait, so uh uh if if we are we is this like to win?

[43:01] Jessie Mueller: Are we like going and if someone messes up then they're out or um I want to just see if we can get all the way around four times like all four of us doing it?

[43:09] Kevin: Yeah, this might be a very short game.

[43:11] Jessie Mueller: Okay, okay.

[43:12] Kevin: Let me try to think of something that is what a considerate contestant.

[43:17] Jessie Mueller: I'm so happy for this because I've heard of them have you heard of the musical uh customer?

[43:25] Kevin: Truly my screwed, then he's gotta think of one that starts with customer.

[43:30] Jessie Mueller: Well, if you could use customer little mermaid, then make no that's no mermaid, comma, little mermaid.

[43:43] Kevin: Okay, golden age musicals.

[43:44] Jessie Mueller: Come on, Jess, this is your world.

[43:47] Kevin: Um, we didn't we're going golden age is the category?

[43:50] Jessie Mueller: No, it doesn't have to be.

[43:51] Kevin: I'm just trying to think of well-name musicals that maybe have more than one word in them, or does it make a song too?

[43:58] Jessie Mueller: Or doesn't it end with the musical?

[44:03] Kevin: I love that those are the only musicals that are popping in your head right now.

[44:06] Jessie Mueller: Okay, I got one that maybe they can go Merrily we roll along.

[44:11] Kevin: Great.

[44:11] Jessie Mueller: Okay.

[44:14] Kevin: This maybe does it have to be a musical?

[44:17] Jessie Mueller: No.

[44:17] Kevin: The long goodbye.

[44:20] Jessie Mueller: Good.

[44:22] Jessie Mueller: Oh, I got one.

[44:27] Kevin: Wait, Brian, you're on mute.

[44:28] Bryan Plovsky: Brian, you're muted.

[44:29] Kevin: That's that's probably correct.

[44:31] Bryan Plovsky: I I've seven years, I don't know how to use Zoom.

[44:34] Jessie Mueller: Um the long goodbye bye, Birdie.

[44:38] Kevin: Oh, okay.

[44:41] Jessie Mueller: I was okay birdie.

[44:43] Kevin: About birds.

[44:44] Jessie Mueller: Birdie.

[44:46] Kevin: It's a birdie, it's a play.

[44:48] Jessie Mueller: No, it's super man.

[44:55] Kevin: Okay, so that was a well, that was one round.

[44:57] Jessie Mueller: Well, we're actually we're not done with the one.

[44:59] Kevin: So go ahead.

[44:59] Jessie Mueller: So this time let's try to go around with that was hard.

[45:05] Kevin: So this time we're gonna try to go around with Broadway actors' names, and you'll have to do the the um first letter of the last name has to be the first letter of the first name.

[45:18] Jessie Mueller: So, like if it's Jessie Mueller, Aaron would have to do like Marin Maisie.

[45:25] Kevin: Yeah, yeah, okay.

[45:25] Jessie Mueller: But if it's a double, if it's a double letter, it then switches the it makes it go the other direction.

[45:31] Kevin: Oh, it's like a reverse situation.

[45:34] Jessie Mueller: Uno.

[45:35] Kevin: Wait, what about that?

[45:36] Jessie Mueller: If it's a double, say that again.

[45:38] Kevin: So if it if it's a if it's a double letter, like if it's Marin Maisie, then the circle reverses.

[45:45] Jessie Mueller: And then it goes back to that person.

[45:46] Kevin: And now we'll play to see if you if you if you can't go, so you'll get out and we'll see who wins.

[45:52] Jessie Mueller: Yeah.

[45:52] Kevin: Okay.

[45:53] Jessie Mueller: Let's fell over.

[45:54] Aaron J. Albano: Erin, did you pass out?

[45:55] Jessie Mueller: Are you okay?

[45:57] Aaron J. Albano: He tried to get the case.

[45:58] Jessie Mueller: My camera just fell.

[45:59] Aaron J. Albano: He was like camera says I hate this this game.

[46:03] Kevin: I don't know.

[46:04] Jessie Mueller: We'll let the guests go first, and Jessie can go first, and you can say any musical theater actor.

[46:11] Jessie Mueller: Let's go with Carol Channing.

[46:16] Kevin: Oh, I was gonna say Carol Channing.

[46:18] Jessie Mueller: Oh, but she just switched the order, so now it's my turn.

[46:21] Kevin: So it's your turn.

[46:22] Jessie Mueller: Here's my turn again.

[46:23] Kevin: No, it's not Kevin.

[46:25] Kevin: Kevin.

[46:26] Jessie Mueller: Okay, C.

[46:27] Kevin: Um.

[46:29] Jessie Mueller: Uh uh.

[46:34] Kevin: Why can I only think of Callista Flockhart?

[46:38] Jessie Mueller: She's probably not playing your musical at some point.

[46:43] Kevin: F uh Callista Flockart.

[46:49] Jessie Mueller: So um Farty.

[46:57] Kevin: I think Farty Foreman was in the original cast of uh how to succeed Daisy and C.

[47:02] Jessie Mueller: Sorry.

[47:02] Kevin: James and Ceph.

[47:04] Jessie Mueller: He was the he was the dance captain.

[47:06] Kevin: Yeah.

[47:07] Jessie Mueller: Um great tap solo.

[47:09] Kevin: Great tap solo, especially.

[47:11] Jessie Mueller: Was Foreman spelled with a PH or was it with an F?

[47:13] Kevin: Double F, so we'll go back to Kevin.

[47:13] Jessie Mueller: Go back.

[47:16] Kevin: Um no.

[47:17] Jessie Mueller: Um can I do?

[47:20] Kevin: Do I have to do actors?

[47:21] Jessie Mueller: Like, can I do Frank Lesser?

[47:23] Kevin: That works.

[47:26] Jessie Mueller: He's big name.

[47:26] Kevin: Broadway personalities.

[47:27] Jessie Mueller: Let's go with it.

[47:32] Kevin: Liza Minelli.

[47:36] Jessie Mueller: Okay.

[47:36] Kevin: I first thought was Lauren O'F, but then I didn't want to reverse.

[47:39] Jessie Mueller: So Liza Milly.

[47:41] Kevin: Mary Martin.

[47:42] Jessie Mueller: Back it.

[47:43] Kevin: Oh.

[47:46] Jessie Mueller: Um.

[47:47] Kevin: Martin Short.

[47:50] Jessie Mueller: Uh Stephanie J.

[47:52] Kevin: Block.

[47:55] Jessie Mueller: Um.

[47:56] Kevin: Uh Beanie Feldstein.

[48:01] Jessie Mueller: That's me.

[48:02] Kevin: Yes, you have F.

[48:03] Jessie Mueller: Farty.

[48:10] Kevin: Fred Applegate.

[48:11] Jessie Mueller: Oh, good Ron.

[48:13] Kevin: Oh.

[48:15] Jessie Mueller: Hey.

[48:15] Kevin: Um.

[48:16] Jessie Mueller: You got five.

[48:17] Kevin: Aaron to eight.

[48:19] Jessie Mueller: Oh, that was good.

[48:22] Kevin: Tim Minchin.

[48:25] Jessie Mueller: Oh, yeah, we get we got that.

[48:27] Kevin: Um.

[48:29] Jessie Mueller: Wait out of town or should we keep going?

[48:32] Kevin: We're on a we're on a roll.

[48:35] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, I was like, we're doing good.

[48:36] Kevin: Five.

[48:37] Jessie Mueller: Four.

[48:38] Kevin: Three.

[48:39] Jessie Mueller: Two.

[48:40] Kevin: Dave Maggie Smith.

[48:43] Jessie Mueller: Irene.

[48:44] Kevin: I'll take the handout.

[48:45] Jessie Mueller: So it's you, it's you three, and we'll start with uh we'll start with Jessie, and this is Rapid Fire.

[48:53] Kevin: Okay.

[48:53] Jessie Mueller: So are we on Smith?

[48:54] Kevin: We on Smith?

[48:55] Jessie Mueller: Dave Maggie Smith.

[48:56] Kevin: Uh we're on whatever you start again, whatever name you want, and it's Rapid Fire.

[49:01] Jessie Mueller: Oh, okay.

[49:02] Jessie Mueller: Uh uh Audrey McDonald.

[49:05] Kevin: Um Marin Maisie.

[49:13] Jessie Mueller: Maria Jackson was never on Broadway, but she should have been.

[49:17] Kevin: Uh three.

[49:21] Jessie Mueller: Two.

[49:22] Kevin: Oh, whoa, whoa.

[49:23] Jessie Mueller: Molly Job.

[49:25] Kevin: Nice.

[49:26] Jessie Mueller: Uh G or J?

[49:29] Kevin: J.

[49:29] Jessie Mueller: J.

[49:31] Kevin: So sorry.

[49:32] Jessie Mueller: Jeremy Jordan.

[49:36] Kevin: You can say your own.

[49:38] Jessie Mueller: Oh, yeah.

[49:39] Kevin: Oh, nice.

[49:40] Jessie Mueller: Oh, an honor.

[49:45] Jessie Mueller: Um.

[49:47] Jessie Mueller: Um.

[49:49] Jessie Mueller: I want to say Isaac Cole Powell.

[49:52] Kevin: Yeah.

[49:53] Jessie Mueller: Is that his name?

[49:54] Kevin: Yes, that is.

[49:56] Jessie Mueller: Um P.

[50:00] Kevin: I was, yeah.

[50:03] Jessie Mueller: Um.

[50:06] Kevin: Five.

[50:07] Jessie Mueller: Four.

[50:09] Kevin: Three.

[50:11] Jessie Mueller: Two.

[50:13] Kevin: One.

[50:13] Jessie Mueller: Professor Plum.

[50:17] Kevin: All right.

[50:17] Jessie Mueller: So it's Aaron Jesse for the.

[50:20] Kevin: Yes.

[50:20] Jessie Mueller: I was like, this rapid fire became very leisurely fire for a second.

[50:24] Kevin: Welcome to Broadway.

[50:26] Jessie Mueller: It's a slow burn.

[50:27] Kevin: Yeah.

[50:28] Jessie Mueller: Uh huh.

[50:28] Kevin: All right.

[50:28] Jessie Mueller: Aaron.

[50:29] Kevin: Uh Aaron, you can go first.

[50:31] Jessie Mueller: Okay.

[50:32] Aaron J. Albano: Okay.

[50:32] Jessie Mueller: That's where I embarrass myself because I can never think of people's names.

[50:37] Aaron J. Albano: This is where you embarrass yourself.

[50:38] Jessie Mueller: When do we go?

[50:39] Kevin: Are we going?

[50:40] Jessie Mueller: Do I just go?

[50:40] Kevin: Go for it.

[50:42] Jessie Mueller: Okay.

[50:42] Jessie Mueller: Um, Leslie Odom Jr.

[50:46] Kevin: Jay, Jay, Jay.

[50:48] Jessie Mueller: It's oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[50:50] Kevin: Oh, right.

[50:50] Jessie Mueller: The junior doesn't count.

[50:51] Kevin: Okay.

[50:51] Jessie Mueller: I mean it counts, but.

[50:53] Kevin: Or Faye.

[50:55] Jessie Mueller: What do you do?

[50:56] Kevin: Oh, she won!

[50:57] Jessie Mueller: You won!

[51:07] Kevin: Perfect.

[51:10] Jessie Mueller: I love that.

[51:18] Kevin: The secret rule.

[51:19] Jessie Mueller: If you hit Orfe, it's over.

[51:21] Kevin: It's like the eight ball in pool.

[51:23] Jessie Mueller: That's what you can call the game Orfe.

[51:25] Kevin: Yeah.

[51:26] Jessie Mueller: There you go.

[51:27] Kevin: That's much that's much better than what I called it.

[51:29] Jessie Mueller: What was it?

[51:30] Kevin: My heart says go tell it on a mountain.

[51:32] Jessie Mueller: Mountain.

[51:33] Kevin: We got question mark.

[51:35] Jessie Mueller: Mountain My Heart says Orfe.

[51:38] Kevin: Yeah.

[51:39] Jessie Mueller: Perfect.

[51:40] Jessie Mueller: Orfe says go.

[51:43] Kevin: One last question before we head out here.

[51:45] Jessie Mueller: We do a segment called Stage Door Story.

[51:48] Kevin: Stage door stories.

[51:51] Jessie Mueller: I don't know, just a gut.

[51:52] Kevin: What when you hear stage door?

[51:54] Jessie Mueller: Um you know, you may have funny ones, you may have pretty heartwarming ones.

[51:59] Kevin: I'm sure you've had a ton of experiences.

[52:02] Jessie Mueller: Um stands out to you.

[52:04] Jessie Mueller: What do you remember?

[52:05] Jessie Mueller: What's the first story that kind of uh pops into your head?

[52:09] Jessie Mueller: Okay, honestly, what I thought of was not experiences when like I was in a show and I came out the stage door.

[52:18] Jessie Mueller: I remember going to see shows in London with my two best friends from high school because one of them moved to London.

[52:26] Jessie Mueller: And um Nick and Rachel, I love you both, and Nick was hell bent on going.

[52:33] Jessie Mueller: We had seen Rent, and he wanted to go and get everybody's signature afterward.

[52:38] Jessie Mueller: And I was so embarrassed.

[52:39] Jessie Mueller: I don't know why.

[52:40] Jessie Mueller: I was like, I was like, I don't get it.

[52:42] Jessie Mueller: Why would you want that so geeky?

[52:44] Jessie Mueller: Like, you wouldn't.

[52:45] Jessie Mueller: I was like, I just I was so embarrassed.

[52:46] Jessie Mueller: I was so embarrassed.

[52:47] Jessie Mueller: And I was so blown away by the show.

[52:49] Jessie Mueller: So I think I convinced us.

[52:51] Jessie Mueller: I was like, let's not do it, guys.

[52:52] Jessie Mueller: And then, and then we went back.

[52:55] Jessie Mueller: Then Nick was so disappointed.

[52:56] Jessie Mueller: So we went back a different night after the show, just like to get everybody's signatures.

[53:02] Jessie Mueller: And of course I got everybody's signatures.

[53:04] Jessie Mueller: There was like some hot Scottish guy playing Roger, and I was like, can I get your signature?

[53:09] Jessie Mueller: I was like, Oh, I get it.

[53:10] Jessie Mueller: I get it.

[53:11] Kevin: Oh, that's so good.

[53:14] Jessie Mueller: Yeah.

[53:15] Jessie Mueller: Oh, I love it.

[53:16] Kevin: That was stagedoor stories.

[53:18] Jessie Mueller: Stage door stories.

[53:19] Kevin: I love it.

[53:20] Jessie Mueller: Speaking of that, before we had any notes that you ever got in the stage tour that were just like, oh, okay, okay.

[53:26] Kevin: Like from people.

[53:28] Jessie Mueller: Like bonkers, or or like, oh my god, so and so was here.

[53:31] Kevin: Oh, I mean, like, like we have a lot like stage or like, oh, I've I've seen a better Glinda.

[53:38] Jessie Mueller: I think you should do this.

[53:39] Kevin: Sure, I'm sure.

[53:40] Jessie Mueller: Yeah.

[53:40] Jessie Mueller: Um, not uh not a like a note or anything, but I do remember one lady meeting her, which she had seen a show or something, it saw me later in the street.

[53:51] Jessie Mueller: Then I think it's maybe she had seen Beautiful or something, and she was like, Oh, you look so tall and lean on stage.

[53:59] Kevin: Oh, and I was like, I mean, what do you say to that?

[54:03] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, you're like those thanks.

[54:10] Kevin: It's raked.

[54:11] Jessie Mueller: Yes, you're underneath me, I guess.

[54:13] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, that makes sense.

[54:15] Kevin: Perspective, yeah, yeah.

[54:18] Jessie Mueller: Yeah.

[54:18] Jessie Mueller: What do you say to that?

[54:19] Jessie Mueller: Oh, you look so tall and lean on stage.

[54:21] Kevin: Yeah, glad you're gonna be able to do that.

[54:24] Jessie Mueller: Thanks for supporting Brahma.

[54:24] Kevin: Yeah, yeah.

[54:28] Jessie Mueller: Well, that brings us to the end of our episode.

[54:33] Kevin: Thank you so much for taking the time and joining us.

[54:33] Jessie Mueller: We really appreciated it.

[54:36] Jessie Mueller: Of course.

[54:37] Kevin: Thanks.

[54:38] Kevin: Come back whenever you want.

[54:40] Jessie Mueller: We're we're here to party.

[54:40] Kevin: Um again, check out my heart says go.

[54:43] Jessie Mueller: It's in the description of this podcast.

[54:47] Kevin: So definitely check it out.

[54:51] Jessie Mueller: Um, but um, you can follow us wherever you are following things on social media.

[54:57] Kevin: Um, that's at Broadwaisted uh Broadway stead.

[55:01] Jessie Mueller: Um spelled out.

[55:02] Kevin: Um, you can find us on Twitter, on Instagram, uh, Facebook group, join our Patreon.

[55:07] Jessie Mueller: We do super cool nerdy Broadway things there.

[55:10] Kevin: Um, and then of course we end every episode with a quote.

[55:14] Jessie Mueller: Um uh Moon of Fallen Souls, I fear the night disguises you.

[55:19] Kevin: Night arises, you will burn, then blindingly you'll fade.

[55:23] Jessie Mueller: I just copied and pasted that uh because I like Drude.

[55:27] Kevin: Anyway, spooky spooky stuff.

[55:31] Jessie Mueller: Um, but um, yes, thank you so much for joining us.

[55:35] Kevin: Um again, you can find us wherever you get podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, of course, Apple Podcasts rate and review us there.

[55:43] Jessie Mueller: Five stars.

[55:44] Kevin: Five stars, please, and thank you.

[55:47] Jessie Mueller: Um, again, thank you so so much for taking the time to uh goof around with us.

[55:51] Kevin: We really appreciate you.

[55:53] Jessie Mueller: Um favorite pastimes, of course.

[55:55] Kevin: Um, so as we end every episode, we raise a glass and we say the immortal words of those magic changes.

[56:03] All: Zoo tears.

[56:07] Jessie Mueller: Yeah, I was thinking, I'll drink to that.

[56:12] Kevin: Yeah, uh, what's the uh uh pull on me another round?