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[0:04] Bryan Plofsky: Did you bring wine?

[0:05] Kevin Jaeger: I got the glasses.

[0:06] Aaron J. Albano: Hey guys, I made a quiz.

[0:08] Javier Muñoz: I didn't bring anything, but I heard it's a buddy.

[0:20] Bryan Plofsky: Hello, and welcome to the official Broadwaysted podcast where we're drunk on theater. I'm your host, Bryan Plofsky, and Smile Away.

[0:27] Javier Muñoz: In the heat of the moment, what does my heart say? If you find your voice, then Rob's original no will freestyle on a heartbeat.

[0:35] Bryan Plofsky: I'm gonna put my foot down because I won't give up. But as we always say, good night, indigo.

[0:40] Bryan Plofsky: Joining us today are the usual fathers versus sons, including Kevin in my shoes, Jaeger.

[0:45] Kevin Jaeger: Ooh, what kind of shoes are they?

[0:47] Bryan Plofsky: I don't know that they're your shoes.

[0:49] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, okay.

[0:51] Bryan Plofsky: Um, they're probably way too big for me.

[0:53] Kevin Jaeger: You're a very large individual.

[0:54] Bryan Plofsky: They're very large.

[0:55] Kevin Jaeger: It's really frustrating. When you get to a certain size, they stop selling them in stores, and so you look like an ogre. You're like, hi, you have ogre size shoes.

[1:01] Bryan Plofsky: And they're like, no, go order them online. Actually, little did you know, uh, Kevin would stop by the Shrek stage door to buy shoes all the time.

[1:09] Kevin Jaeger: Literally, I was like, you have shoes.

[1:12] Bryan Plofsky: But uh, Kimberly, our game master, is out on podcast maternity leave. So filling in again, we have our allegiance to a wicked Pape Cell and Hamilton cat with Bombay Dreams of being on the line at Spelling Bee with Mary and I, Aaron J. Albano, our unofficial deer babysitter for the hour.

[1:28] Aaron J. Albano: Yay.

[1:33] Bryan Plofsky: Well done. I kept the deer baby because um, I think it's great.

[1:41] Bryan Plofsky: And with us today is somebody you've seen in a million places. A brief highlight would be Hamilton, In the Heights, Shadow Hunters, and the new studio cast recording of My Heart Says Go. Let's give a big Broadwaysted welcome to Friend of the Show.

[1:52] Javier Muñoz: Friend of the show.

[2:07] Bryan Plofsky: It's a ready to this.

[2:08] Javier Muñoz: Yeah.

[2:09] Bryan Plofsky: Welcome.

[2:10] Javier Muñoz: Thank you so much.

[2:11] Bryan Plofsky: Thank you, y'all.

[2:13] Javier Muñoz: Of course. Uh, it is a pleasure to have you here on Broadwaysted. Um, before we get into anything, we're gonna talk a lot of cool stuff. What are you drinking?

[2:21] Javier Muñoz: What are you drinking?

[2:23] Javier Muñoz: Listen, I have one drink. I am consistent. It's a Manhattan.

[2:27] Bryan Plofsky: Yes.

[2:31] Javier Muñoz: Okay, it's up. It's usually a Woodford Madness. I'm a classy guy.

[2:35] Kevin Jaeger: You know how to live.

[2:36] Javier Muñoz: You know how to live.

[2:39] Bryan Plofsky: Uh Aaron, are you drinking anything?

[2:41] Aaron J. Albano: Um, right now, because I just got back from the gym, I am foregoing my normal glass of red wine and drinking a berry's um smooth protein smoothie. Um, so, but it's almost done. So if I finish it by the time like during this um podcast, then I'll probably go grab a glass of red wine.

[3:03] Kevin Jaeger: Did you put rum instead smoothie?

[3:06] Aaron J. Albano: No, I had to be good for like a second, and then you sounded so disappointed in yourself.

[3:13] Bryan Plofsky: Uh Kevin, are you drinking anything?

[3:16] Kevin Jaeger: Uh I am I make fun of Aaron, but I'm just drinking water out of a giant uh yeah.

[3:21] Javier Muñoz: See, so what?

[3:23] Kevin Jaeger: Well, I went old school and I poured a little bit of tequila in my black cherry polar seltzer. That was my like lockdown drink where I would just like be too lazy and get a glass out. I just like poured tequila directly into the soda.

[3:41] Javier Muñoz: That's like a um backyard daddy.

[3:43] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, you just like swirl, you just twirl it a little bit. And then your wife's like, what are you drinking? You're like, it's just seltzer.

[3:49] Javier Muñoz: Like, yeah, honestly, honestly, she she'll probably pour it before I do.

[3:54] Bryan Plofsky: That's true. That's true. Um, what a season two throwback.

[3:57] Kevin Jaeger: I know, right?

[3:58] Bryan Plofsky: Season two. Season one was seven years, season two of that. And then here we are in season five.

[4:06] Bryan Plofsky: Um, the end of season five, and we're really super happy to have you. The way we start with everybody is what's your favorite musical?

[4:14] Javier Muñoz: My favorite musical, like of all time, yeah.

[4:16] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, or define it however you want.

[4:18] Javier Muñoz: Uh we don't care at this point.

[4:20] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, I will answer by saying my favorite musical in terms of um structure and how it's written and content is Sunday in the Park with George.

[4:31] Bryan Plofsky: Nice.

[4:33] Kevin Jaeger: Always very strong answer.

[4:36] Bryan Plofsky: Are you uh, are you an act one person, an act two person? Does it not feel complete without one or the other?

[4:43] Javier Muñoz: I can't. I I I know I know I'm gonna get slack for this, but I love it all. I love it all. I love the whole thing.

[4:50] Kevin Jaeger: Kimberly will be very happy to hear that. That's her favorite musical.

[4:53] Bryan Plofsky: Now, here's a real question. Do you like when the silent soldier is played by a person or when the silent soldier is played by like the cardboard cut-out human?

[5:05] Javier Muñoz: I like a person. I prefer a person.

[5:09] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, I have one now too. And what's your what's your favorite version of the Chroma loom?

[5:16] Javier Muñoz: Is that what it's called?

[5:17] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah. What's your favorite version of that? Because there's been multiple translations of that now.

[5:23] Javier Muñoz: Oh my god, I don't know. You guys, um Aaron, Aaron, that was a really good, like push up your glasses, nerd music.

[5:31] Aaron J. Albano: Yeah, yeah.

[5:33] Javier Muñoz: I'm like, holy moly. I don't really know. In Act Two, uh, which version do you like measure 25 of the chroma?

[5:41] Kevin Jaeger: I don't know how to answer that. I'm I'm gonna have to get back to you on that.

[5:45] Aaron J. Albano: Do you have a favorite chroma loom error?

[5:47] Javier Muñoz: I think it was the most recent, um, because it they like dropped lights and it was like all rainbowy and very pride-filled. I would I like that one. It was cool.

[5:58] Kevin Jaeger: The other revival, the chromoloom was like um like an AI like uh version of his grandfather, right?

[6:06] Javier Muñoz: Or great grandfather, was that what it was? I know I didn't see the first revival.

[6:09] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, the the Jen the Jenna Elf Jenna.

[6:13] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, Jenna Elfman Darwin the Darman Greg rebounded.

[6:16] Kevin Jaeger: N Elfman, Jenna, whatever her name was. Um let's look it up.

[6:21] Aaron J. Albano: Yeah, Aaron, look it up.

[6:22] Javier Muñoz: But yeah, it was like it was a um it was like a uh uh not a uh a uh a holo a hologram of like his great grandfather, I think I saw it, I don't remember, but uh are you thinking of Oscar and me, Brian?

[6:36] Kevin Jaeger: No, we did see Oscar in me that had an AI like hologram of Oscar um Hammerside, which was wild.

[6:43] Javier Muñoz: Um anyway, cool. So here's another question for you.

[6:45] Kevin Jaeger: Jenna Russell.

[6:48] Javier Muñoz: There it is.

[6:49] Kevin Jaeger: Yes, so some of me ask, and I've been obsessed with this question. Um, is there a show that you can think of that you would like to play all of the parts if you can go in back in time, like over the course of your lifetime? So you can go back and play like Gavros, and then all and and then age up into like the priest, and then you know, and then play everything in between and lay man. Is there a show that like really speaks to you where you wish you can get like that full life experience through like you age through the show like basically wow that is a really good question because I I think it's so strange because as soon as you ask it, I have to say that heights never feels far away.

[7:13] Javier Muñoz: I don't I've never even considered that um whoa uh um oh my god my head is exploding uh okay I I guess okay okay okay I it I guess if it's gonna be a musical I know this is kind of I guess this is kind of cheating but I honestly mean it a musical I would say In the Heights now that's a great answer all of the parts yeah all of them like ending with Abuela 100% so would you start with Sunny or would you is there a younger person than Sunny in the show I forget uh not really but I I mean I would have had to start with Sunny like two decades ago yeah so like who so so wait track them so you would be Sonny and then Graffiti Pete then you'd be graffiti Pete then Nina Pierce then Benny uh then Usnavi nice then Carla Vanessa work then Daniela then Camila then the father whose name is oh my god oh yeah why can't I think of the father's character name uh oh to you that him what he just flew out of my head

[8:48] Kevin Jaeger: Okay

[8:48] Javier Muñoz: Dad

[8:49] Kevin Jaeger: It's been a while you're you you have an excuse

[8:51] Javier Muñoz: It's fine

[8:52] Javier Muñoz: And then I buy out

[8:53] Kevin Jaeger: Did I miss anybody

[8:54] Javier Muñoz: I don't think I missed that

[8:55] Kevin Jaeger: That's a death you missed yeah, Paraguay guy

[8:59] Javier Muñoz: Well, that's kind of timeless, right

[9:00] Javier Muñoz: I could I could play Pidagua at any point

[9:03] Kevin Jaeger: That's honestly that's your City Center's In the Heights production when they bring you back to play the Piragua guys, like you did it in the movie

[9:13] Javier Muñoz: You'll do it at City

[9:15] Javier Muñoz: Or between every stint to like clear your palate, you play like in between each one

[9:24] Kevin Jaeger: Beautiful, beautiful

[9:25] Javier Muñoz: I support that

[9:26] Kevin Jaeger: Kevin is the father

[9:27] Javier Muñoz: Kevin

[9:28] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, yeah

[9:29] Javier Muñoz: Oh my god, duh

[9:30] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah

[9:32] Javier Muñoz: Lord of Mercy

[9:33] Kevin Jaeger: Awesome

[9:34] Kevin Jaeger: That's a great answer

[9:35] Javier Muñoz: That's a strong answer

[9:36] Kevin Jaeger: Good job

[9:36] Javier Muñoz: Yeah

[9:37] Kevin Jaeger: Well, speaking about In the Heights, um, obviously, you've been a part of some like pretty outrageous cultural moments like, you've been like to steal, like you were in the heart of like the in the eye of the storm in the eye of the hurricane of like these like truly wild cultural moments and I guess uh looking back, you know, obviously you have feelings when you're there, you have feelings right after it, and you're kind of like you know, grieving and coming down and whatever the case may be, but then you get to like now and you look back on those like wild experiences

[10:09] Javier Muñoz: What pops up What do you think Like, you know, being separate, are you separated enough from it that it doesn't feel real anymore Like, I guess talk about like looking back, how that how that and you have so much more to go Uh like where are you right now, and how does that feed into who you are now

[10:25] Javier Muñoz: My gosh, that's uh super incredible

[10:38] Javier Muñoz: Heights always feels like right now, still to this moment. I that that was the most unique experience ever. That I can't remember how many of us were in that cast. I'm gonna guess I was 26. Like 21 of us made our Broadway debut in that show.

[10:38] Kevin Jaeger: That's wild.

[10:55] Javier Muñoz: So it was it had a it had an energy that was so fresh and innocent, and just like in love. Like if your height your favorite high school production went on to Broadway. Do you know what I mean?

[11:09] Bryan Plofsky: Yeah, sure.

[11:10] Javier Muñoz: So it's still it still feels really, especially because of the movie. It feels so present and and and now. Um Hamilton, Hamilton feels like I feel like I was I swear to God, I feel like I was in another body. Like that was such a uh an insane demand physically and vocally and mentally and emotionally, that like I look back on it and I'm like, that's like a cyborg version of me that existed for a brief time in this world.

[11:44] Javier Muñoz: Um it doesn't feel close at all. It does feel like a lifetime ago, um, unlike heights. And it I don't know, it's it's so bizarre because I I get asked to to do like my shot everywhere I go, do you know every event, everything? You know, so it's that that song stays ever present. And but like the only thing I can ever really truly recall viscerally is the demand of it. Is this literally like ramping myself up to do the show and just abandon once the downbeat hits and the crowd is cheering, and it's like, here we go. Just can't think of anything else. You're just on the roller coaster on the ride, and that was it.

[12:29] Bryan Plofsky: Over the course of your run in it, did you feel a shift in the audience at all in terms of like expectation and knowing, or like from day like, or an anticipation of certain things, like or or I guess it's as you on stage, and I'm sure that was a very unique energy in the room when I guess can you can you talk a little bit about that? And then Aaron, maybe you can supplement that with what it kind of felt like um uh now or on tour.

[12:55] Javier Muñoz: Awesome. Yeah, so okay, so there's several answers to that. Yeah, yeah. So like so when when we were at the public, it was audiences were getting introduced to it. There wasn't a cast recording yet, no one really knew what it was.

[13:09] Javier Muñoz: Um, and so there wasn't my neighbors vacuuming it. I am so sorry if you hear that on it. No, but wouldn't it be amazing if he was like listening to Hamilton or something like that?

[13:20] Javier Muñoz: Like so the public was was interesting because it was so fresh and new, so no one was really attached to any of the actors yet, right? So when I went on for Lynn, there was no audiences didn't even think about it, you know what I mean? There wasn't they were they were just seeing the other guy, right? The Sunday guy, and and and there was no sort of investment for audiences in terms of of what they were going to see.

[13:48] Javier Muñoz: So everything felt really fresh and and sort of equal, like equal ground. Then we we transfer to Broadway, and and uh you know, things exploding left and right about the show, and the audiences are coming in. First of all, those cheers as soon as the music dropped were out of this world because they got the ticket to, you know, they got the ticket of the moment, right? So they were so thrilled to be there.

[14:15] Javier Muñoz: And there was always an entrance applause for Lynn. And I would go on for my Sunday show, and no one knew who I was. They just knew they weren't seeing Lynn. They had no idea that like I co-created the character with Lynn. They had no idea what they were saying.

[14:15] Kevin Jaeger: Sure.

[14:31] Javier Muñoz: And silence, right? So I would always get that, but it was it was my favorite thing because it to me as the alternate, it it the audience not coming with that expectation was already, I already had them like right here in the palm of my hand.

[14:50] Javier Muñoz: Sure. Because it was about the show. It wasn't about who you were seeing. It was like, come here, I got you. Like, let me take you on this story. And it felt more thrilling. Eventually that changed as you know, I got notoriety, and then the Sundays were as much of an entrance applause as Lynn. And that changed, I missed that. I missed being able to come on stage and just like keep rolling with the story and not stop for that applause. But it was nice, it was wonderful. And it just meant folks were still excited about what they were seeing. But it did change the experience for me because then I had to sort of balance expectations with just me being able to do my job, you know. And but it really, there is nothing like the electricity in that house.

I mean, I mean, up until my very last day it just felt otherworldly, like I've never experienced that in my life. Folks, even I mean, years into it were because I left in 2018, so a full three years on Broadway with it, plus the six months at the public. And then all that time, it never changed. Like that first beat, the audience was just electric. Yeah. You know, and there's never been anything quite like it. Um, and I wouldn't want there to be. Like that's sure. I love that that lived in that time. I, you know, like that was magic. That was absolute magic.

[16:27] Javier Muñoz: Before I pass it to Aaron, did you think that, did I don't know? Did you feel that like before the notoriety, before like the entrance applauses and stuff like that? Did you feel like um you were kind of like Hamilton, kind of like having to like prove himself and earn himself through the course of the show? Like, do you think that informed you at all, or do you think it was just an energy thing?

[16:50] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, it didn't really affect my performance of him at all. I mean, I had the experience of In the Heights already, yeah, where once In the Heights gained a following and folks saw me instead of Lynn. There was always I could feel the tangible energy and on scene of people like who's this guy? What am I saying? What did I pay for? You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. By like the end of the opening number, they're like, Oh, this is the best thing, you know, they're totally with me. But like, you know, so I had learned to step into the shoes of the name that's attached to the show and the role during Heights, so I've never really like it didn't even phase me when it came to Hamilton. That's so like that I mean that's its own thing, yeah.

[17:37] Aaron J. Albano: Yeah, for sure.

[17:37] Aaron J. Albano: Yeah.

[17:39] Aaron J. Albano: Yeah, no, totally it's so cool and fascinating to hear you talk about this because I think when you were leaving, I was just I had just gotten the show. So my experience time-wise with the show is very it's the same show, but vastly different. And it's interesting because like the electricity and the energy is still in the room, but it is a I would say without knocking like the energy now, it's just a very different energy now. It should be in a very nuanced way because it's like because I remember when you guys were at the public, we I was just closing Here Lies Love, and so there was a whole like changeover from and so like unfortunately I wasn't able to see it, but even just like the electricity in that building when I would go back and like visit, it would be it would be palpable, but like it's so exciting to hear the way you talk about sort of the audience discovering the show and the audience sort of like traveling on the ride with you guys as the show not being developed, but like sort of like finding its sea legs, yeah.

[18:45] Aaron J. Albano: But whereas now, while the electricity's still there, like the biggest moment that I can point to, especially on tour, but definitely like especially on tour, but also on Broadway once in a while, is the like the applause, the entrance applause for Hamilton, yeah, but especially the uh immigrants we get the job done. Love it, yeah. Like, but it's an interesting like dichotomy where you can tell the audience now knows that that's supposed to be an applause line. Yeah, so they almost like applause before you can tell they've heard it. Yeah, and it's a different sort of like they're just they know what the ride is, and so they're here for the ride, versus discovering the ride at the same time, like as you're telling the ride, if that makes sense.

[19:34] Javier Muñoz: No, I hear that.

[19:35] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, that makes sense.

[19:36] Javier Muñoz: And it's a very nuanced difference because the energy and the electricity is still there, but it's a like it's it's an anticipation that I don't think existed when the audiences were discovering the show.

[19:49] Javier Muñoz: And so you know, I want to add on to that if I may, because that reminds me that like once the cast recording came out, that was another layer of experience. Like I'm sure everyone knew the lyrics, and if I messed up anything, you literally hear the front row go, ha ha ha ha! And I was like, Jesus Christ, man.

[20:09] Kevin Jaeger: Um, I know you talked about it being vastly different and a lot of different nuances. Do you know what else has a lot of nuances and is vastly different? Where Brian Tuesdays in the corner.

[20:26] Kevin Jaeger: It's Kevin's corner.

[20:28] Kevin Jaeger: Yay! The best part of the show is Kevin's corner because I get to do whatever I want in this corner. So I have lots planned. We're gonna get through it all. But before we start, I wanted to say I did a deep dive researching you. Um, I found this like really obscure website called Wikipedia, and you're like a nervous. And first of all, I would like to say I have a lot of goals for myself in my life, a lot of lists that I want to be on, but based on your Wikipedia, I now have a new list that I have to be on before I die. And it's a list that is just gay people in New York City. You are your Wikipedia on the bottom where it shows like lists you can go to or links that you're on. You are on a list of LGBT plus people from New York City.

And I was like, no, sorry. What's what I'm looking up right now? There's an official registry of us. And number one, I didn't know this. And number two, I have not I am super gay and I have done all of the gay things required. Trust me, I will check them off a list of me. So I'm just saying whoever is in charge of the Wikipedia gay list, I am a hundred percent putting myself out there as a new member.

[21:52] Kevin Jaeger: I'm seconding this list of LGBT people from New York City. Which is funny because when we first started this podcast, like eight years ago, that we did a uh Kev for Ham plea every episode where I was begging Lynn or anybody from Hamilton to give me tickets um to see the show. So now that you're on here, I'm starting a new one where I am asking whoever's in charge of that Wikipedia page to put me on the list of gay men of New York City.

[22:20] Kevin Jaeger: I'm sorry, I'm calling shenanigans on this list because why there are two dancers in dance. What a list of there are two and only two gay dancers in New York in all of New York City. So um if you can if you can use whatever like all of your gay powers to make that happen, that would be great. Um but great, we'll move on to actual Kevin's Corner, which uh I was doing research on you, but then I fell down a Wikipedia rabbit hole and started reading, trying to quiz myself on if I could remember which animals were assigned to what character in uh Disney's um uh Robin Hood because I was like, oh, they're all foxes, but they're not some of them were birds and other shit.

[23:07] Kevin Jaeger: So what I want to do with you for fun is I'm gonna make you Disney Animalize the musical of Hamilton. And so you have to go through all the main major characters of Hamilton and tell me what kind of animal they would be and why. And I'm gonna preface this right now by saying this has nothing to do with like the physical size of the animal or anything like that. So there's nothing related to those kind of things. It's more like the demeanor of the animal, the characterization, that kind of thing.

[23:37] Javier Muñoz: Oh my god.

[23:38] Javier Muñoz: Okay.

[23:38] Javier Muñoz: We're gonna keep the same main characters, and you're gonna tell me who they would be if they were animals. So we'll start, of course, with Alexander Hamilton.

[23:44] Kevin Jaeger: Can I can I clarify? This is like they're all gonna be animals. This isn't like the game, like one human, all Muppets.

[23:51] Javier Muñoz: This is Brian, that's perfect.

[23:56] Kevin Jaeger: We will do they're all animals, except you get to pick one of the characters, which would be the human, who would be like the like Michael Caine in the like Muppet Christmas Carol.

[24:06] Javier Muñoz: So one of the characters has to be a human.

[24:08] Kevin Jaeger: So one of them is the Christopher Robin, the other are all correct.

[24:12] Javier Muñoz: Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[24:14] Javier Muñoz: Uh shrinky, okay.

[24:17] Javier Muñoz: Alexander Hamilton.

[24:18] Javier Muñoz: All right.

[24:19] Javier Muñoz: Um, holy for holies.

[24:21] Javier Muñoz: Uh Alexander Hamilton.

[24:26] Javier Muñoz: What animal would he be?

[24:28] Javier Muñoz: And Aaron can be your lifeline if you need help because Aaron should also been in the show.

[24:32] Aaron J. Albano: Right.

[24:32] Javier Muñoz: Yes.

[24:33] Javier Muñoz: Okay.

[24:34] Javier Muñoz: Um, okay, okay.

[24:36] Javier Muñoz: I really want to, I really have to think.

[24:38] Javier Muñoz: Okay, let me think.

[24:38] Javier Muñoz: Truly.

[24:40] Javier Muñoz: Alexander Hamilton.

[24:42] Javier Muñoz: He.

[24:43] Javier Muñoz: Oh.

[24:44] Javier Muñoz: Well, not to be not to be like just literal, but he's gotta be a fox.

[24:51] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[24:52] Kevin Jaeger: I would second that.

[24:53] Javier Muñoz: That would give you that.

[24:58] Kevin Jaeger: Casting yourself as a fox is a little on the nose, but it's fine. We'll go with it.

[25:01] Javier Muñoz: Um, all right.

[25:06] Javier Muñoz: So the next one we'll go.

[25:08] Kevin Jaeger: He's just trying to justify your idea, Kevin.

[25:13] Kevin Jaeger: Bringing order to the chaos.

[25:15] Kevin Jaeger: That is this idea.

[25:16] Javier Muñoz: So we're good.

[25:17] Javier Muñoz: Um, next we'll go to the king.

[25:19] Kevin Jaeger: Switch it up.

[25:22] Javier Muñoz: Oh my god.

[25:25] Javier Muñoz: The king is an orangutan.

[25:28] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, okay.

[25:30] Kevin Jaeger: I like that.

[25:31] Javier Muñoz: Um same actor who played King Louie, like the actual Oh my god, that'd be perfect.

[25:38] Javier Muñoz: The actual magazine.

[25:41] Kevin Jaeger: Uh Aaron Burr.

[25:43] Javier Muñoz: Aaron Burr.

[25:45] Javier Muñoz: Ooh, Aaron Burr would be.

[25:51] Javier Muñoz: Ooh, a wolf.

[25:54] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, I like that.

[25:55] Javier Muñoz: But is he wearing clothing?

[25:57] Javier Muñoz: Is it that on the nose?

[25:58] Kevin Jaeger: Um I mean, I don't know, maybe in act two.

[26:02] Javier Muñoz: Okay, uh uh Hercules Mulligan.

[26:06] Kevin Jaeger: Hercules Mulligan.

[26:09] Javier Muñoz: Ooh.

[26:09] Javier Muñoz: Oh, is this a double cast, Kevin?

[26:12] Kevin Jaeger: Or is this individual animals for each role?

[26:14] Javier Muñoz: Oh no, yeah, each and it's double casting, so the animal has to be for both.

[26:17] Kevin Jaeger: Okay.

[26:18] Javier Muñoz: Okay, so oh mad.

[26:19] Javier Muñoz: So Mulligan Madison.

[26:21] Javier Muñoz: Uh oh, that's hard.

[26:23] Javier Muñoz: Okay, okay, okay.

[26:25] Javier Muñoz: Um, you know, Madison is so intelligent.

[26:31] Javier Muñoz: Mulligan is so clever.

[26:36] Javier Muñoz: So okay, clever intelligence.

[26:38] Javier Muñoz: Um clearly muscle.

[26:41] Javier Muñoz: Um this is really tricky.

[26:48] Javier Muñoz: Um I was um oh gosh.

[26:58] Javier Muñoz: I mean I would dare say an elephant.

[27:04] Kevin Jaeger: Nice.

[27:05] Kevin Jaeger: That's a good one.

[27:06] Javier Muñoz: That's a really good one answer.

[27:08] Javier Muñoz: I like good answer.

[27:09] Javier Muñoz: Good answer.

[27:10] Javier Muñoz: Okay, okay, okay.

[27:11] Javier Muñoz: Family says um Angelica Skyler.

[27:21] Javier Muñoz: Okay, brilliant, elegant.

[27:26] Javier Muñoz: Oh gosh.

[27:27] Javier Muñoz: I um I think a swan.

[27:37] Kevin Jaeger: I was gonna say that good dye.

[27:40] Javier Muñoz: Yes and Eliza.

[27:44] Javier Muñoz: Oh my gosh.

[27:48] Javier Muñoz: I'm gonna say, because of the structure of the show and the journey that you have to take, Eliza is the one human.

[28:00] Kevin Jaeger: Okay.

[28:01] Javier Muñoz: Nice.

[28:03] Javier Muñoz: That's that's a home run.

[28:05] Javier Muñoz: That's like that felt so sad.

[28:07] Javier Muñoz: I guess pun intended.

[28:09] Javier Muñoz: That felt so satisfying.

[28:11] Javier Muñoz: Like when you said that.

[28:13] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, right?

[28:14] Kevin Jaeger: Like, do you need those la that last gasp?

[28:17] Javier Muñoz: It can't be done by an otter.

[28:18] Javier Muñoz: It has to be.

[28:20] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, totally.

[28:23] Javier Muñoz: And we'll finish with uh George Washington.

[28:29] Javier Muñoz: Oh, a lion.

[28:31] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[28:32] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[28:33] Javier Muñoz: That's that's exactly how to go with that.

[28:35] Javier Muñoz: Yeah.

[28:36] Javier Muñoz: No, that's great.

[28:36] Kevin Jaeger: And this has been uh Kevin's corner.

[28:43] Javier Muñoz: I was waiting for it.

[28:45] Javier Muñoz: But you were gonna cast as Mariah Reynolds because I was like, Oh, yeah, the Peggy Mariah.

[28:50] Javier Muñoz: I don't know.

[28:52] Javier Muñoz: I I have no idea.

[28:53] Javier Muñoz: Uh because in my head I was thinking that too, but then I was like, yeah, which animal is a slutty animal?

[28:58] Javier Muñoz: And then I was like, I don't know how to guess which animal's a slutty.

[29:02] Kevin Jaeger: You have to cast Peggy too.

[29:03] Javier Muñoz: So when I know I mean, okay, dolphins are pretty freaky.

[29:10] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, fair.

[29:11] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[29:12] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, this is where we're talking.

[29:14] Javier Muñoz: This is where we ended up.

[29:18] Javier Muñoz: Um that was fun.

[29:22] Javier Muñoz: Good job.

[29:25] Javier Muñoz: Um, okay, so um, I wanted to talk a little bit about um before we get to the awesome cast recording that you're on, though, where we're here to talk about.

[29:34] Javier Muñoz: Um, I know you were in Chicago for a bit doing Prada, is that right?

[29:38] Bryan Plofsky: Yes, I was.

[29:39] Javier Muñoz: I loved it.

[29:40] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, tell us about that experience in terms of like uh like this beloved, like beloved movie that like really broke through all expectations.

[29:51] Javier Muñoz: I think it was the counter programming for Superman Returns that weekend, and then like it just like blew up. It's now iconic that role, all of that. Like we all know that the boyfriend's the real bad guy in this show. Like, like I guess, like, talk about your experience and the expectations and kind of like figuring out its own footing for that specific medium.

[30:14] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, that that, you know, okay. Well, first I want to say that that first and foremost, that cast and crew were and are like still in my life. Like, they're my heart. We had the most incredible time. Every last person in that room was so beautiful, so warm, so open, so loving, so creative, so professional. I just like I truly couldn't get enough about being around them. I just wanted to be around them all the time. And and that's you know, that's rare. That's rare. Like, even when I was home and all my downtown, I was like, hey, what are you doing? Hey, what are you doing? You know, little yippy dog, like, hey, hey, play with me, you know.

[30:54] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah.

[30:55] Javier Muñoz: They were they were just they were incredible, incredible people. Um, I loved every second of it. I we had a blast. It it wasn't ready, unfortunately. It really wasn't, and that was the beautiful thing of being in Chicago, and this is my first time performing in Chicago, and what a savvy audience of people who love theater out there and just so intelligent, so quick, so with us, you know, despite the things that were not strong about the show, they were so like the odd, the houses were having the best time with us, you know. And that really was the heart of the show was we were just gonna have a really, really, really good time. And everyone came along with us for the ride. So I just loved it, I appreciated that.

I loved our audiences. I loved being in Chicago. I loved being in Chicago in the summer that was my first time too doing that and that was really really wonderful um but this this role I gotta tell you Nigel obviously is like the most beloved of all the characters in that film yeah and and it was you know I again I like pulling on my experiences of being the um understudy for Lynn in in the heights and then being the alternate for Lynn and Hamilton I already had this sort of I don't know this muscle that that that just doesn't get I didn't get in my head about it that I was stepping into this iconic role it was like I just kind of felt the way I I always feel with anything you know that I do with Lynn is just like yeah you know I got this you know what I mean and like you know but but what's on the page they just wrote everything for him was all heart you know even in his most critical uh of of the other characters he was still coming from from from his love of what he does and gets to do and his love as an LGBTQ person his dignity and respect you know and and and and integrity and so I really just dug into all those beautiful aspects and they gave me punchlines like nobody's business.

[33:05] Kevin Jaeger: I bet.

[33:05] Javier Muñoz: So I just had a blast and the songs I got to sing you know I mean dress your way up that was our our finale that was our bows nice. You know, like I sang the vows. Like that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's cool. That's very so like it it it was just it I got to sing the sort of iconic song in the show. And um it just it was so thrilling. I mean, thank goodness I wasn't given choreography that was too much for my 40 plus year old body. Because you know, we were rehearsing that and I was like, Can I do this still? I don't know if I can do this still, but yeah, it worked. And you know, and it was it was so much fun to do. And the audience was always with us on that on that arc and that story, you know, to give her that makeover, and it was just it was just so glorious.

There are so many aspects to that piece that I miss so much. And I'm just rooting for it as it it continues on its journey off to London now for more development. And I'm praying that they just keep the heart of it and just find it so that it comes back and is the home run that it should be, because so much has been poured into the show, so much love and so much passion and so much work. And I just I want it to be a hit. So if whether I'm with it or not, I want to that's fantastic.

[34:26] Bryan Plofsky: Well, let's talk about something else that has heart, literally in the title. Um, My Heart Says Go is a new studio cast recording uh that you're a part of. Um we talked about it a little bit in a previous episode. Um, but for those of you who didn't listen, um, you know, here we're talking about this awesome show um that you can find on Apple Music and and and Spotify and all the places. Um it is about a young person who is, I believe, the first generation kind of college um uh um uh in the family going to college, decides to drop out to follow a songwriting career. Um and it and the show, the heart of the show is that that struggle between the father and the the kid um kind of going back and forth and the empathy understanding and all that you know and and i've listened to it it's it's it's incredible um and and you're you're you you bring so like not even not seeing you just like you bring so much to it i guess what and oh and um i'll have the description in the description of this podcast episode i will have links so that you can all listen to it um so check that out but i guess like what drew you to the piece creatively what like stuck out to you and kind of what what were some of your experiences doing it and in turn what do you want people's listening experience to be.

[35:07] Javier Muñoz: Beautiful so this was an offer that came to me directly and when I get offers I'm I'm super serious about that because to me that's like such a gesture of of confidence and trust and respect that whoever the creatives and powers that be behind the project are they they they're saying we want you right so if they if they're if they're putting that out there then I'm gonna listen to everything read everything give it its due give it its time really sit with it to to consider if this really feels right and so usually that's like a day or two process for me. This came in on a day that a random day I had no self-tapes I had no auditions I had nothing to prepare for I had no you know events or activism or anything going on I was literally on the couch watching Netflix not even kidding and the email came in and I I I had the time, so I just popped it open and I read through the synopsis, and then I just press play on the first song that they sent me of a demo.

I got maybe 30, 40 seconds into that, and I'm listening to Jorge and I'm listening to him rap, I'm listening to his cadence, I'm listening to his rhyme scheme, I'm listening to the inner rhymes, I'm listening to the beats behind him, I'm listening to the structure, and I'm I literally cannot tell you that instantly. I was my first workshop within the heights was at MTC. We did a two-week um workshop at MTC. And Lynn's way of of working at that time was to like record himself on garage band and send you the demo so that you could learn the music for the next day or whatever. And I had a desk by my window. I was living in Coney Island at the time, and I had and I would sit at that desk, I was sitting at that desk, you know, listening to the tracks Lynn was giving us studying music, whatever I needed to do. Just those 30, 40 seconds listening to Jorge, I was right back at that desk.

[37:55] Kevin Jaeger: Wow.

[37:55] Javier Muñoz: That kid listening to Lynn send me some music. I I mean, I just couldn't, I could, I could feel the influence and the impact and the inspiration of in the heights on his on Jorge. I I stopped it. I wrote back immediately, yes. I didn't even read any further or listen any further. I was like, this is like literally, this came to me. This is not by accident. The answer is yes. I've got to support this kid, I've got to support this project. This is a yes. So that's how that's how it came to be.

[38:27] Kevin Jaeger: Your second um question.

[38:31] Javier Muñoz: Oh, what was it like? Um, and and and what do you want people to feel? So so the, you know, Jorge has written such such really easy music to perform, you know, it kind of performs itself, it's just, it's such beautiful writing. It's easy to sink into these moments and dig into them. And you know, we had about two days uh scheduled for me to chew the recording, and we did it, we finished everything in one day. You know, the the sort of energy between us all was just like cooking, you know. So it was really beautifully a beautiful day in the studio. Um and I wouldn't say it was easy because you know, some of these rhyme schemes were he he, you know, he wrote some challenging stuff, but it it was it was meaty, it was fun, it was fun to dig into.

But I think, you know, this is such, I mean, there's so many things I want people to take from this. I I I want I the first thing I would love is for young artists who are in love with musical theater and out there and they're looking for their break and they're looking for a way into this industry to get inspired by this form of doing something like this, of creating something like a concept album, of putting your work out there first, because this may not be uh Broadway production yet, but it's so easy to license and affordable to license, and and play, you know, theaters everywhere can do it, and we now know who Jorge is, right? In this industry, they did it so brilliantly to do it in this way.

So I would love for for young artists to be inspired by this feel like this is an avenue that they can take. Um, I would love anyone who's watching this to uh man. I want to I want to say this outside of the world of musical theater or theater in general. Just just the beautiful journey that this character takes, that these characters take. That you know, I think, especially now after lockdown and pandemic, and so much is still not really back, and so much is still up in the air, and we're still trying to figure things out. And like, you know, maybe maybe there are folks out there who have given up on certain dreams or certain goals or certain things that they had in mind for themselves in their lives.

And I would love for them to listen to this and feel inspired to get back to that. Nice to go back to that road, go back to that that that dream or that goal that you were pursuing and and and reinvigorate yourself, reconnect yourself to that because you know the father comes a long way and the son comes a long way, and all the other characters come a long way in this in this journey. Um, and it's beautiful. I think it's just beautifully written. Um, but yeah, I and I also think I just want folks to like love musical theater. Listen to this and enjoy it. Just just love what we do, and then come to New York and buy a freaking ticket.

[41:26] Bryan Plofsky: Absolutely. Um, again, I've put this um the links into the um description of this episode. So please give it a listen.

[41:35] Kevin Jaeger: Absolutely worth it.

[41:36] Bryan Plofsky: And and the Jorge that we are uh referencing is Jorge River Herons. Um, you can check out his work um by clicking the link, you know, below. Um and check that out. But um, I I absolutely think this is worth the listen. Like this one more than a lot of other stuff.

[41:48] Kevin Jaeger: This one more than a lot of other stuff we have promoted.

[41:52] Javier Muñoz: Yeah.

[41:53] Bryan Plofsky: But like, but in all seriousness, like it's really good.

[41:55] Kevin Jaeger: So um definitely check it out.

[41:58] Javier Muñoz: Um, should we play a game?

[41:59] Bryan Plofsky: Should we play a game?

[42:00] Javier Muñoz: Yeah.

[42:01] Aaron J. Albano: Oh.

[42:03] Javier Muñoz: I'm immediately nervous.

[42:05] Aaron J. Albano: I'm stepping in for Kimberly as game master again.

[42:09] Javier Muñoz: And this game, I think, will make a little bit more sense than my last takeover as game master.

[42:14] Aaron J. Albano: Well, we're gonna see.

[42:16] Javier Muñoz: So this game has a better title too.

[42:18] Aaron J. Albano: Uh this game is called Lyrical Letters, and so the way it's gonna work is we're going in the alphabet order, and so let's say I'm going first, and so my letter is A. So I just have to come up with a lyric from any musical theater show that starts the the that lyrics part starts with the letter A.

[42:38] Javier Muñoz: So I would be like, so I have A, so I'll say like, ask me how do I feel? Ask me now that we're quietly caressing from Guys and Dolls.

[42:46] Aaron J. Albano: So then we go to Javier, who has B, and then he has to think of a lyric that starts with the letter B and sing that out, and then we'll go to Aaron who'll have C, and then we'll go to Bryan who will have D.

[42:59] Javier Muñoz: So not only do I need to know musical theater lyrics, I need to know the alphabet.

[43:08] Kevin Jaeger: Do we need to be able to say where it's from?

[43:10] Javier Muñoz: I mean, obviously we probably would, but um my god.

[43:15] Aaron J. Albano: Okay, here's uh hmm.

[43:17] Javier Muñoz: How can I add the what it's from?

[43:19] Aaron J. Albano: No, no, we'll leave it how it is.

[43:20] Javier Muñoz: We'll just we'll just try to see if we can go in order.

[43:23] Aaron J. Albano: Okay, okay.

[43:24] Javier Muñoz: Uh okay, great.

[43:26] Aaron J. Albano: All right, so we'll start.

[43:27] Javier Muñoz: We'll start with Javier and we'll go with uh we'll go with B.

[43:31] Aaron J. Albano: We'll pretend I started.

[43:32] Javier Muñoz: So we'll okay, we'll start with B.

[43:34] Kevin Jaeger: Oh shoot.

[43:36] Javier Muñoz: Suddenly every word in the English language is out of the way.

[43:39] Kevin Jaeger: It's out of your head, yeah.

[43:42] Javier Muñoz: Uh okay. Um it has to be the first word in the in the lyric, like the the first it doesn't have to be the first word in the song, but it has to be like the first word of like that lyrical pattern.

[43:56] Aaron J. Albano: Like the phrase, sure.

[43:57] Javier Muñoz: Sure.

[43:59] Aaron J. Albano: Okay, okay.

[43:59] Javier Muñoz: Um my god, why can't I think of anything right now? Holy crap. Um guys, this is so ridiculous.

[44:10] Kevin Jaeger: I can't think of anything.

[44:11] Javier Muñoz: The other day I was at a beast's castle and I was entertained by a candlestick. It was wild.

[44:16] Bryan Plofsky: Oh come on, you can't do that. That's obvious.

[44:19] Javier Muñoz: No, I gotta really think about it. Okay, okay. I gotta I gotta get it. I gotta get it. Why didn't I think of that? Jesus Christ. Okay. Um, that's the magic of these games is that you can think of 12 options for everybody else.

[44:31] Aaron J. Albano: Everybody else, but not a director. You're like, what is this alien letter R? Like what words are used by it?

[44:41] Javier Muñoz: Oh, oh, oh, okay, okay. Uh does that have a B?

[44:46] Kevin Jaeger: No, that doesn't have a B. Damn it!

[44:49] Javier Muñoz: Okay. Can I amend? Can I can I amend also? Can it be like either starting the phrase or like the main like part of the phrase?

[44:57] Kevin Jaeger: Okay. Okay, I'll be the judge.

[44:59] Javier Muñoz: Great. And we do we have to like if it's the hook.

[45:06] Aaron J. Albano: No, you just have to do the lyrics of this.

[45:08] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, if it's the hook of the phrase or if it's the beginning of the phrase. Let's yeah.

[45:12] Kevin Jaeger: Uh beep.

[45:16] Javier Muñoz: Holy crap, Lord. I'm so fired from this industry. Um, it's gonna take me 10 minutes to think of a freaking bee. Why can't I think of a bee?

[45:25] Aaron J. Albano: Um, okay, okay. I'm gonna get this, you guys. I'm gonna get this. Um I keep thinking of Baker's wife, and I'm trying to think of a lyric from that song.

[45:35] Kevin Jaeger: From Baker's wife?

[45:37] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, it's a Fab tempo song. That's why that's all that keeps them coming. Baker is all that keeps them coming to my freaking head. Like, Jesus Christ. Um You know what? We'll come back to you. Aaron, you have C.

[45:48] Aaron J. Albano: I do have C. Mischief, mischief, the city on fire.

[45:57] Kevin Jaeger: Okay. Okay. I'll give you I don't even know the words to the actual song, but I know. I will give you C on fire.

[46:07] Bryan Plofsky: Um, you have D.

[46:09] Javier Muñoz: Um uh uh hush up, don't tell mama, shush up, don't tell mama, don't tell mama, blah blah blah blah blah.

[46:19] Kevin Jaeger: Great. Somehow that was don't tell mama. Um uh I have E.

[46:27] Javier Muñoz: Um. Uh I need six eggs.

[46:36] Kevin Jaeger: That's too expensive.

[46:43] Javier Muñoz: Eggs is the hook.

[46:45] Aaron J. Albano: Eggs is the hook of that whole song. Great. And now we're back to Am I doing B and F? And F and F.

[46:52] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, okay. So okay, so B B B. Being alive!

[47:03] Javier Muñoz: And F F is fame. I'm gonna live for it. You knew that first one. Now you're on a roll.

[47:12] Aaron J. Albano: We're on a roll. G, Aaron.

[47:14] Kevin Jaeger: G.

[47:14] Aaron J. Albano: Go, go, go, Joe, Steph. You know what they say. Hang on now, Joseph. He'll make it someday.

[47:19] Bryan Plofsky: Perfect. Right. Brian H.

[47:22] Kevin Jaeger: How to apply for a job. How to advance from the mailroom.

[47:27] Javier Muñoz: Perfect. Um, I believe in you.

[47:35] Aaron J. Albano: Oh, I love that. Yep. Jay.

[47:39] Kevin Jaeger: Jay.

[47:39] Aaron J. Albano: Oh god. Jesus. Jesus Christ. Beautiful.

[47:48] Kevin Jaeger: Amazing. Oh, Aaron K.

[47:51] Javier Muñoz: K. K.

[47:53] Kevin Jaeger: Oh no. What words begin with K.

[48:00] Aaron J. Albano: Kayak.

[48:02] Kevin Jaeger: Thanks. I mean, if if I need six eggs works, then let's go fly a kite up to the highest height.

[48:15] Javier Muñoz: Let it go. Let it go. Or let it go. Let it go. Loosen up now. Let it nice. Beautiful. You can choose your let it go. Bonus points.

[48:28] Aaron J. Albano: Okay, M.

[48:30] Kevin Jaeger: Uh.

[48:32] Aaron J. Albano: Make them hear you.

[48:34] Kevin Jaeger: Nice. Make them hear you. Okay, uh, N.

[48:39] Javier Muñoz: N. N. Uh. I don't know if this is no, I don't think this is from that's from my musical.

[48:48] Kevin Jaeger: No.

[48:52] Aaron J. Albano: Does this work? We can never go back to before.

[48:56] Kevin Jaeger: Absolutely. Yeah. Okay, great. Also a B song, so good job.

[49:01] Javier Muñoz: Oh god. Now I've got them all. Three hours later.

[49:08] Aaron J. Albano: Well done. Uh Aaron, you're on.

[49:11] Kevin Jaeger: Oh. Oh. Um. Oh, Clahoma where the wind comes.

[49:17] Bryan Plofsky: Brian, you're on P. People, people who need people.

[49:22] Javier Muñoz: Nice. Or the loveliest people. Or luckiest, but they're both, actually.

[49:30] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, oh, I thought we were rewriting lyrics. I'm sorry.

[49:33] Aaron J. Albano: Oh, right. Yeah, that's true. That's you.

[49:35] Kevin Jaeger: Um, Pete Q. Um.

[49:38] Javier Muñoz: Oh god, what is that song? Queenie was a blonde.

[49:42] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, nice. Oh, okay. Wow. That was good. Good job.

[49:46] Aaron J. Albano: It was good. Good job. I was literally like.

[49:51] Kevin Jaeger: Yeah, that's good too. That would not have counted, Brian.

[49:55] Bryan Plofsky: I know. I know. Six eggs. If I had Q, I would have been out.

[50:00] Javier Muñoz: I know because he wouldn't have accepted that.

[50:01] Kevin Jaeger: I would not have accepted that. Okay, if I need six eggs works, it's all okay.

[50:06] Aaron J. Albano: Absolutely. R.

[50:08] Kevin Jaeger: R.

[50:12] Javier Muñoz: Uh. Wait, okay. Come on, come on, come on. It's right there. It's right there. I'm trying, I'm trying to I'm trying to bring it. I'm trying to bring it home.

[50:26] Kevin Jaeger: So raise a glass to free.

[50:38] Javier Muñoz: On brand. Good job.

[50:42] Aaron J. Albano: What show's that from?

[50:45] Kevin Jaeger: Pippin.

[50:48] Javier Muñoz: Aaron, you have F.

[50:49] Kevin Jaeger: S. S uh S S.

[51:05] Aaron J. Albano: Wait, is this no? I don't this might not work because I don't know if it's actually in this show, but no, never mind.

[51:16] Kevin Jaeger: Wait, yes. Does it stop in Stop in the Name of Love in Motown?

[51:23] Javier Muñoz: Motown. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah. Yes.

[51:26] Kevin Jaeger: Stop in the name of love. It was like, don't cut. I was like, don't come at me with your little nerdy.

[51:32] Aaron J. Albano: This was a cut song from the first try out.

[51:36] Kevin Jaeger: Which version of the white weber. Chrome loom do you like the best?

[51:43] Javier Muñoz: Alright, uh, Brian, you're a letter, whatever is that.

[51:47] Kevin Jaeger: T. Whatever.

[51:51] Javier Muñoz: Nice. Okay. I have T U.

[51:56] Kevin Jaeger: Um. Oh my god. I want to say under the boardwalk, but that's not I don't think that's in a Broadway show.

[52:06] Javier Muñoz: Um is I feel like it was, but I forget what. So if we don't know what it was, then nope.

[52:17] Kevin Jaeger: There is a a similar worded one that just came out in a with a movie. Under the um under it's uh under his word, I'm thinking of, but there's it's gotta be uvula, also as a word, but I don't think that's the musical.

[52:35] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, yeah. Um up. There's gotta be one that starts with up.

[52:41] Kevin Jaeger: That works up up above the world so high.

[52:50] Javier Muñoz: Um up there in lights. God, there's gotta be a show that says that. Um up to the um that's your same song. Up the ladder to the roof.

[53:05] Aaron J. Albano: And then much better. That is from uh Sherry Renee Scott again woman show. What was that called?

[53:14] Kevin Jaeger: What was it called again?

[53:16] Javier Muñoz: Everyday rapture. That's what it was. Yes. I was like, cool, under the sea. So I was like, under the sea was right there. Oh no. So was Quiet Uptown.

[53:27] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, yeah, duh. Okay, okay, okay, thanks so much. Uh so you have V, you villain.

[53:37] Javier Muñoz: Uh okay. He had a very good day today. That's from working.

[53:43] Kevin Jaeger: Lynn Roy. Oh, nice. I'm sorry, that won't count because that's only at an off-Broadway production.

[53:50] Javier Muñoz: Oh shoot, does it? No, is that my? I'm just kidding.

[53:56] Kevin Jaeger: Oh, like ouch. Um W.

[54:00] Javier Muñoz: W. W. Yes, I love how this is working out.

[54:03] Kevin Jaeger: It's a nope, that's it's a fine fine. Um this is hard. Oh my gosh. You're on the right show. You're in the right show, though.

[54:17] Javier Muñoz: W. Whoa, this is a deep cut. Will a mania.

[54:27] Kevin Jaeger: Will from the Will Rogers Follies. Isn't it crazy that a deep cut? We say it's a deep cut from a Tony winning Tony Award winning music.

[54:40] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, yeah, true. Um, Brian.

[54:44] Kevin Jaeger: Ooh, have fun.

[54:45] Javier Muñoz: I was gonna say we'll skip X if you don't if you want to see X.

[54:50] Kevin Jaeger: Yes!

[54:51] Javier Muñoz: Oh nice. Good job. Good job. Um, X.

[54:56] Kevin Jaeger: Why?

[54:57] Javier Muñoz: Thank you. Uh you matter to me.

[55:04] Aaron J. Albano: Oh little waitress action. Nice. And then you have Z.

[55:12] Kevin Jaeger: Z. Oh my god. I mean, we're all thinking of trying to think of one now, so phone a friend if you need to.

[55:27] Javier Muñoz: Uh is there a title song to the Xana do gay one?

[55:37] Kevin Jaeger: There I I uh I could just say that and then you guys would be like, yeah, okay. Uh I don't think so.

[55:45] Javier Muñoz: I don't think so. Uh Z uh Oh, there's one. Isn't there one with like Z this Z that?

[55:59] Kevin Jaeger: Okay, what about take me to uh zoo?

[56:04] Javier Muñoz: Oh, that's perfect. Okay. If that works, then yes. Tell me on a Sunday, please. Because I don't I don't know anything else.

[56:12] Kevin Jaeger: Yay! I love that we ended on a downer song where a woman is telling her man how to break up with her. Happy Pride, everybody.

[56:32] Bryan Plofsky: I should be on the list of gay men in New York City because that does bring us to the end of our episode. Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate you spending the time with us. We had a blast. I hope you did too.

[56:47] Javier Muñoz: Absolutely. Um again, remember that you can find uh my heart says go wherever you get music. Um again, we linked it here in the description of the episode. So please, definitely, please check it out. Um, really awesome stuff.

[57:03] Kevin Jaeger: You can follow us wherever you're on social media, um, Twitter, Instagram, at Broad Wasted. Find us on Facebook. We also have a Patreon where we're doing some really fun stuff over there. Um, so find us there.

[57:15] Bryan Plofsky: And we end every episode with a quote. And today it's we do. We do. Um, you can go, but be back soon. You can go. But while you're working this place, I'm pacing around uh until you're home safe and sound. Um, from uh here uh from here. My heart says go. Um so uh yeah, check uh that out.

[57:42] Aaron J. Albano: Um, Javier, thank you so much for talking about the show, talking a little bit of a little insight into your life and career. We really appreciate it.

[57:49] Javier Muñoz: Thank you, y'all. I had a blast, and that's the blast.

[57:52] Bryan Plofsky: Awesome. Well, this actually ends uh this portion of season five. Um, so thank you all for listening. But as we end every episode, we raise a glass.

[58:02] Kevin Jaeger: We do, and we say oh wait, I oh my gosh, I forgot. Find us wherever you get us on uh um uh wherever you get your podcasts, Spotify, Apple Podcasts. They're not seeing at this point. They've heard the Zoot Bob that game rate and review us there. Five stars, please and thank you, but you're not here if you're still here. This is the podcast black hole.

[58:32] Javier Muñoz: Yeah, oh another another W. Wait for me.