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[0:09] Bryan Pullofski: Hello and welcome to the official Broadwaysted podcast where we're drunk on theater.

[0:13] Bryan Pullofski: I'm your host, Bryan Pullofski, and it's the best day ever.

[0:17] Bryan Pullofski: Here was my middle name, and tomorrow is a bikini bottom day.

[0:20] Bryan Pullofski: Just to remind everybody, I'm not a loser, just a simple sponge, but I guess I missed you.

[0:25] Bryan Pullofski: Poor pirates.

[0:26] Bryan Pullofski: There's no control when the going gets tough, so we're gonna chop, chop, chop, chop to the top.

[0:31] Bryan Pullofski: And yes, nautical nonsense is something we wish.

[0:35] Bryan Pullofski: Joining us today are the usual BFFs who drop on the deck and flub like a fish.

[0:39] Kevin Jager: Yep.

[0:39] Bryan Pullofski: Including Kevin, super sea star savior Jager.

[0:43] Kevin Jager: Yeah, I like that.

[0:44] Bryan Pullofski: Yeah, I thought it would look like that sounded nice.

[0:46] Kevin Jager: I practice alliteration.

[0:47] Bryan Pullofski: Yeah, yeah.

[0:48] Kevin Jager: Oh, that does sound lovely.

[0:49] Bryan Pullofski: Sally sells seashells and all that.

[0:51] Kevin Jager: Yeah, exactly.

[0:52] Bryan Pullofski: Uh Sandy sells seashells.

[0:54] Kevin Jager: Isn't it Sally?

[0:55] Bryan Pullofski: Well, that is, but Sandy's the squirrel.

[0:57] Kevin Jager: Oh, right.

[0:58] Bryan Pullofski: That's better.

[0:58] Bryan Pullofski: Um Kimberly, our game master, an unofficial babysitter for the hour.

[1:02] Kimberly Cooper: Hello.

[1:03] Kimberly Cooper: Hello.

[1:03] Bryan Pullofski: And with us today is an Alphaba from Wicked, a Martha from Spring Awakening, a Susan from Tick Tick Boom, a Lilli from the Wildness, and a Sandy the Texas Squirrel from the SpongeBob musical.

[1:17] Bryan Pullofski: She's currently in WP Theater and Ars Nova's Sundown Yellow Moon.

[1:22] Bryan Pullofski: Let's give a big Broadwaysted welcome to Friend of the Show.

[1:24] Kevin Jager: Friend of the show.

[1:26] Bryan Pullofski: Lilli Cooper.

[1:31] Lilli Cooper: Thanks for joining us.

[1:32] Lilli Cooper: Thanks for having me.

[1:33] Bryan Pullofski: Of course.

[1:34] Bryan Pullofski: You can follow Lilli on social media at Lilli Cooper on Twitter.

[1:37] Bryan Pullofski: And are you on Instagram?

[1:42] Lilli Cooper: Ooh.

[1:44] Bryan Pullofski: Really cool.

[1:47] Bryan Pullofski: Well, there you go.

[1:48] Bryan Pullofski: What are we drinking?

[1:50] Kevin Jager: What are you drinking?

[1:53] Lilli Cooper: That was okay.

[1:53] Kevin Jager: That was alright.

[1:56] Bryan Pullofski: Yeah, it was a little minor.

[1:57] Kevin Jager: You came and kind of saved the cord there.

[1:59] Lilli Cooper: Oh, yeah.

[2:00] Kevin Jager: Kevin and I try and disrupt as much as possible.

[2:03] Lilli Cooper: And then we brought us harmoniously back.

[2:04] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[2:05] Bryan Pullofski: So what are we drinking?

[2:06] Kimberly Cooper: Um, Kimberly, what did you do for us?

[2:09] Kimberly Cooper: Yes.

[2:09] Kimberly Cooper: Yes.

[2:10] Kimberly Cooper: Are we all drinking that?

[2:11] Lilli Cooper: Yes.

[2:11] Kimberly Cooper: Except for that.

[2:12] Lilli Cooper: Oh, what are you drinking?

[2:13] Kimberly Cooper: I have gin.

[2:14] Lilli Cooper: Oh, of course.

[2:16] Kimberly Cooper: As per ush.

[2:17] Lilli Cooper: I have tequila mezcal.

[2:18] Kimberly Cooper: What do you have? You have seltzer?

[2:19] Lilli Cooper: I do too.

[2:19] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.

[2:20] Lilli Cooper: Anything in it?

[2:20] Kimberly Cooper: I put a little seltzer in it.

[2:21] Lilli Cooper: Nice, nice.

[2:22] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, seltzer and lime.

[2:23] Kimberly Cooper: Beautiful.

[2:23] Lilli Cooper: I have seltzer and lime with my hair.

[2:24] Kimberly Cooper: Well, you have lime.

[2:27] Lilli Cooper: Go get it.

[2:28] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.

[2:30] Bryan Pullofski: Cheers.

[2:30] All: Cheers.

[2:31] Bryan Pullofski: To clear liquor.

[2:33] Lilli Cooper: Oh, yeah.

[2:34] Lilli Cooper: I heard it has no calories.

[2:35] Bryan Pullofski: Toast does.

[2:36] Lilli Cooper: That's true.

[2:37] Lilli Cooper: It does.

[2:37] Lilli Cooper: I'm only drinking clear liquor now.

[2:39] Kevin Jager: That's a great one.

[2:40] Lilli Cooper: I'm getting skinny for Jay and Kimmy.

[2:42] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[2:43] Lilli Cooper: Gotta look cute for the weds.

[2:44] Bryan Pullofski: I guess I'm getting skinny for that too.

[2:45] Kevin Jager: It's true.

[2:47] Bryan Pullofski: So let's just get right into it.

[2:48] Bryan Pullofski: What have you seen this week or something?

[2:49] Lilli Cooper: What have you seen this week?

[2:53] Kimberly Cooper: I tried there, but you're not.

[2:55] Lilli Cooper: She does candid all over that.

[2:57] Kimberly Cooper: That was nice.

[2:58] Bryan Pullofski: No, what have we seen this week?

[3:02] Kevin Jager: Um, I know Kevin's seen some stuff.

[3:04] Kevin Jager: I have.

[3:04] Kevin Jager: Oh, you had a weekend.

[3:05] Kevin Jager: I did.

[3:06] Kevin Jager: I had a fun weekend.

[3:07] Kevin Jager: Um, I got to see Glenn Close in Sunset Boulevard this weekend.

[3:11] Lilli Cooper: Oh, clutch rop her!

[3:12] Kevin Jager: Oh yeah.

[3:13] Kevin Jager: Um it was it was really a transformative performance.

[3:17] Kevin Jager: Like I were gonna- I thought you were gonna say it was a really tranny performance.

[3:21] Lilli Cooper: I mean, some of her costumes, I know some trainings that would be all over them.

[3:24] Kevin Jager: Like she was all out.

[3:26] Kevin Jager: But really, like a hundred percent that show is Glenn Close.

[3:30] Kevin Jager: And that's not to say that the other performers are incredible.

[3:33] Kevin Jager: Like I actually thought the ensemble was particularly great at moving the story along.

[3:37] Kevin Jager: Because I uh Sunset Boulevard, I feel there's some moments that are a little dated when it comes to like some of the book things that happen, but the show moves along so quickly because the ensemble and how like the energy and everything.

[3:47] Kevin Jager: But like the show is Glenn Close.

[3:49] Kevin Jager: And I think like her performance just really brought this honesty that would be so that's so hard for a lot of people win that part because it's so over the top.

[3:59] Kevin Jager: Like it's very easy to start chewing the scenery when you're playing that part.

[4:02] Kevin Jager: But she just kept this reality to it that was just so like grounded and yet still like on top of it.

[4:10] Kevin Jager: The two big numbers in the show are "With One Look" and "As If We Never Said Goodbye."

[4:15] Kevin Jager: And with I think those are the only songs I know.

[4:17] Kevin Jager: Uh "With One Look," she couldn't.

[4:19] Kevin Jager: "With One Look" is like her act one number, and I was prepared to sit there and be like, okay, so she did this in one atoni in like the 90s, now she's doing it again.

[4:27] Kevin Jager: So let's hear her kind of like do a great acting interpretation.

[4:30] Lilli Cooper: Right.

[4:31] Kevin Jager: But she opened her mouth and was like full on singing, and it was a clip, and I was like, she belted out the end, and the entire theater erupted in applause.

[4:40] Kevin Jager: It was all like half-standing ovation as soon as that song happened, and I was part of the people standing.

[4:44] Lilli Cooper: No, see, I was not this interesting.

[4:45] Lilli Cooper: I have like an interest, like I qu I I I was asked the question now.

[4:50] Lilli Cooper: If it was a if that was a musical theater actress who like nobody knew that well, would it would people have erupted into applause, uproarious applause?

[5:00] Kevin Jager: I don't think so.

[5:01] Lilli Cooper: Like, is it impressive because it's Glenn Close?

[5:03] Kevin Jager: Not to say she's not when I was sitting in the theater, I got to see with my parents.

[5:07] Kevin Jager: Hi, mom and dad.

[5:08] Kevin Jager: They came to see uh to New York to visit and got to see the show, and one of the things we actually talked about was like that room was like buzzing with energy to see Glenn Close.

[5:16] Lilli Cooper: Sure, sure.

[5:17] Kevin Jager: Like, so I think it was one of those things, and I think everyone in the theater kind of thought what I did, that we were about to see this incredible star revisit a role and live in it, but in this like older body, but we all kind of thought we were about to see a little bit of a faded light.

[5:31] Kevin Jager: And I think I was really incredibly moved at how she took probably what she's learned in the past 15 years as a performer, and I'm sure she probably relates to it even more now as she gets older.

[5:44] Kevin Jager: But um singing is on point.

[5:47] Kevin Jager: Like she is right up to I mean, all of them are fantastic, but her voice especially was just really remarkable the way that it still has like a timbre and a vibe to it.

[5:56] Lilli Cooper: So it's I would definitely recommend seeing it if you have a chance just to be in that room.

[5:59] Kevin Jager: It felt like I was a part of theater history getting to see the show again.

[6:02] Lilli Cooper: That's cool.

[6:03] Kevin Jager: It's a very good check out.

[6:04] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[6:05] Kevin Jager: Unless Donna Murphy is there.

[6:06] Lilli Cooper: Also, just she's a standby, right?

[6:09] Kevin Jager: For Hello Dolly.

[6:10] Lilli Cooper: Oh, Hello Dolly.

[6:14] Kevin Jager: Donna Murphy is the Donna Murphy is Broadway standby.

[6:19] Lilli Cooper: Time Square.

[6:20] Kevin Jager: She's hanging out in Shubert Alley waiting for a text from any of the theaters.

[6:23] Lilli Cooper: You've decided you're gonna be ready to play anything.

[6:26] Kevin Jager: Yeah, yeah.

[6:28] Kevin Jager: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

[6:30] Lilli Cooper: Glenda.

[6:31] Kevin Jager: If I saw, if I saw on Twitter tonight news, Donna Murphy going on for Grisabella, I would go by taking in a second.

[6:37] Lilli Cooper: Absolutely.

[6:38] Kevin Jager: And that would also be fun, kind of like where in the world is Carmen San Diego.

[6:42] Lilli Cooper: Where on Broadway?

[6:43] Kevin Jager: Oh, it's like where's Waldo?

[6:45] Lilli Cooper: A big Twitter where's Waldo game.

[6:50] Kevin Jager: First person to get the playbill answered on Twitter with.

[6:54] Lilli Cooper: Then she's gonna like start screwing with people and show up.

[6:56] Kevin Jager: It's like the little kid in School of Rock.

[6:58] Lilli Cooper: Oh my god, this is amazing.

[7:00] Kevin Jager: I mean, I can't wait to see Donna Murphy as Billy Wonka.

[7:05] Lilli Cooper: I'll add him the engineer.

[7:08] Kevin Jager: Oh yeah, I mean.

[7:09] Kevin Jager: We should be Donna Murphy's agents and just start pitching this to everyone.

[7:13] Lilli Cooper: This is great.

[7:13] Kevin Jager: You know who you need?

[7:14] Kevin Jager: Donna Murphy.

[7:15] Lilli Cooper: See?

[7:16] Kevin Jager: She knows every part.

[7:17] Lilli Cooper: She could just go on.

[7:18] Kevin Jager: She's right.

[7:18] Lilli Cooper: Or even not.

[7:20] Kevin Jager: With a book in hand.

[7:21] Lilli Cooper: She's fine.

[7:22] Kevin Jager: In conclusion, go see Sunset Boulevard and anything Donna Murphy does.

[7:27] Lilli Cooper: And then everything together, right?

[7:29] Kevin Jager: We did.

[7:29] Kevin Jager: Um, Kevin and I saw the cabaret by um Ben Rimmelauer of um Patty Issues.

[7:35] Kevin Jager: Um so we saw it at the Duplex.

[7:37] Lilli Cooper: It is a one-man show, it's about an hour, and he essentially goes through his obsession with Patty LePone and how it kind of sprung from his very unique and um childhood, like growing up, you know, parents divorced, and just um how that kind of Patty LePone kind of saved him from terribleness that was surrounding him at the time.

[8:00] Kevin Jager: Um, and then him, you know, getting his first job in the in the theater world and uh assistant directing, excuse me, assistant directing with Lonnie Price for the uh Sweeney Todd Philharmonic Todd.

[8:12] Kevin Jager: Philharmonic, Sweeney Todd with Patty LePone, so and like all that and kind of how that affected him and and the kind of how that relationship, you know, moved him towards what he's doing now, and it is it's first of all, there are some great one-liners in there.

[8:26] Lilli Cooper: Oh, yeah, just from a comedy standpoint, but like he really brings it home and it's very effective.

[8:30] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[8:31] Kevin Jager: Yeah, I thought it was really it was a really great story because like like Bryan said, the like the uniqueness and the originality of like his personal journey that he was going through that was like so unlike like many stories ever heard of somebody like what they grew up with, and to see how like how Broadway and I mean, specifically for him, Patty LePone meant something, but it was cool to watch the show, and you could kind of see how like theater and like these larger than life personalities have affected like kids growing up in like such a positive way, and more than just like they love the albums, but like transforming where they're at.

[9:02] Lilli Cooper: Like he talked about like one really potent moment for me was when there was like a bunch of craziness happening, and you just heard all this screaming and yelling, and he put his headphones on it and sat in the dark and listened to Evita over and over again.

[9:14] Kevin Jager: And he like took her strength from like in these moments where she is outcasting, and people are like saying, You can't do it, you can't be anything.

[9:23] Lilli Cooper: And like, like she's saying, stand back, Argentina, you're gonna get a little dose of me and my star quality.

[9:30] Kevin Jager: And he like kind of became Evita in his own life.

[9:33] Lilli Cooper: Wow.

[9:34] Kevin Jager: And like used that in that transformative way.

[9:35] Lilli Cooper: And I thought that was a really cool way to like show how Broadway can affect people.

[9:39] Lilli Cooper: And I had a ton of fun watching Kevin watch this.

[9:43] Kevin Jager: Well, because I mean, the thing was it was it was at the duplex, so obviously a story that is like gonna have a lot of like fun backstage kind of things about Patty LePone.

[9:52] Kevin Jager: It's kind of an appeal to the gays.

[9:54] Lilli Cooper: So like I was like kind of like we were all kind of like waiting with baited breath as he's like getting closer to meeting her.

[10:01] Kevin Jager: And then like when she built that up really well.

[10:04] Kevin Jager: He did really well when she walks in the door and then he starts like bringing out these stories of stuff and um telling some of like he actually goes through some rumors that we've all heard and been like, is that true?

[10:12] Kevin Jager: Is it true?

[10:13] Kevin Jager: Is it true?

[10:13] Kevin Jager: And like gives the like this is what Patty told me is it actually happened.

[10:18] Lilli Cooper: And I'm not gonna tell you all because you should see it.

[10:19] Kevin Jager: It's coming back in March.

[10:21] Kevin Jager: Um, so you should definitely go and check it out.

[10:23] Kevin Jager: It was not expensive, and you get to drink while you're watching it.

[10:26] Lilli Cooper: Upstairs at the duplex.

[10:27] Kevin Jager: Yes, upstairs in a little cabaret thing.

[10:28] Kevin Jager: And it's just it was like a very friendly environment.

[10:30] Kevin Jager: He jokes around the audience, and like you just feel like a friend of yours is telling you the most crazy story about his.

[10:35] Lilli Cooper: Did he do any impressions of her?

[10:36] Kevin Jager: He like does his interpretation of it, and he's bringing my favorite part is like when he he would like tell like voicemails she left him, and he would like talk as her like leaving voicemails, and you're hearing it, and you're like, Patty LePone, like yeah, yeah, things like that.

[10:50] Lilli Cooper: So he wasn't like doing like a mimicking thing, but it was just like the words he would say and the things that she would do.

[10:55] Lilli Cooper: You're like, that's incredible.

[10:57] Kevin Jager: She is what I thought.

[10:58] Lilli Cooper: Wow.

[10:58] Lilli Cooper: Um, but it was also interesting because from my point of view, um, my mom loves Patty LePone, and my mom would always be playing um either the Les Mis or the Anything Goes um album.

[11:12] Lilli Cooper: Um and like so those roles are always associated with Patty LePone to me because that's who my the that's the album my mom would be playing, like when we were kids, like my sister and I were playing.

[11:23] Lilli Cooper: Like in the background, we'd hear the Fantine, or we'd hear the Reno Sweeney as that.

[11:29] Kevin Jager: Yeah, and it was just like yeah, in Jersey.

[11:31] Lilli Cooper: Yep.

[11:32] Lilli Cooper: Um, so you know, I have a different, a very different connection to Patty LePone than Kevin does.

[11:36] Kevin Jager: Ben's experience with Patty, you know, definitely connected with me in a totally different way.

[11:42] Lilli Cooper: It may have been more direct to Kevin, but I but I think Patty LePone is this like mythical creature that like you know, he both he both put her on a pedestal as well as painted her as like an a real individual.

[11:57] Kevin Jager: That was appreciated.

[11:57] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, yeah, it's a good it's a good time.

[11:59] Kevin Jager: Definitely check it out.

[11:59] Kevin Jager: It's coming out again in uh March.

[12:02] Kevin Jager: You can find out about tickets and stuff by going to Ben Rimmelauer.com.

[12:06] Lilli Cooper: Oh my god, wait, oh sorry.

[12:08] Lilli Cooper: No, I just remembered something that I saw.

[12:10] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[12:11] Lilli Cooper: We can should we're gonna say what I thought too.

[12:13] Kevin Jager: Let's see if it's same thing.

[12:14] All: One, two, three.

[12:16] All: Significant Other.

[12:17] Lilli Cooper: Okay.

[12:17] Lilli Cooper: Oh, very good.

[12:18] Kevin Jager: Oh my god.

[12:19] Kevin Jager: I want to hear about Significant Other too.

[12:21] Lilli Cooper: Go first.

[12:21] Lilli Cooper: Um, well, I saw the invited dress of Significant Other.

[12:24] Lilli Cooper: Gideon Glick is one of my very close friends, and it was breathtaking and hilarious, and like so intensely heartbreaking that I had to like sit in the audience and cry it out for like 10 minutes before I could get up and leave.

[12:40] Kevin Jager: Wow.

[12:40] Lilli Cooper: It was like that intense.

[12:42] Lilli Cooper: Is this the one about uh the significant others?

[12:45] Kevin Jager: I don't actually.

[12:45] Lilli Cooper: Best friends.

[12:48] Lilli Cooper: Gideon plays this guy with three best friends of his, and they all get married within like a few years of each other, and it's sort of his relationship with them and his relationship with dating, and and it's just so it's so beautifully written, and all of the performers are amazing, and the set is gorgeous, and it's really great.

[13:08] Kevin Jager: So I just like strongly recommend it.

[13:10] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, it's good.

[13:11] Kevin Jager: That is on my list.

[13:12] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[13:12] Lilli Cooper: The more I think about it, the more I just want to like burst into tears.

[13:15] Kevin Jager: Dose of reality, right?

[13:16] Lilli Cooper: That's what a friend of mine texted me right after she saw it.

[13:18] Lilli Cooper: She has the doses of reality.

[13:19] Lilli Cooper: She was like, it's definitely a dose of reality.

[13:21] Kevin Jager: Um yeah, there are several moments where I was like, oh my god, I'm that person.

[13:21] Lilli Cooper: Oh my god, I'm that person.

[13:25] Kevin Jager: Oh, my friend said, because she uh went to like theater school, and like you get those little groups, like the three girls and the gay guy, and see how things change as life goes on.

[13:37] Lilli Cooper: After.

[13:38] Lilli Cooper: Okay.

[13:42] Lilli Cooper: After when you're no longer speaking to me because I'm the gay friend.

[13:47] Bryan Pullofski: Brian, so tell us about Big River.

[13:48] Kevin Jager: Yeah, so I saw Big River at Encore City Center.

[13:51] Kevin Jager: Um I had never seen Big River before.

[13:54] Kevin Jager: I knew the big songs from it.

[13:55] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[13:56] Kevin Jager: Money water.

[13:57] Lilli Cooper: I just associate Big River with American Sign Language, because that's me to only production that I can think of.

[14:02] Kevin Jager: Yeah, it won Best Musical in the 80s.

[14:06] Lilli Cooper: The year came out?

[14:06] Kevin Jager: Like Big River.

[14:08] Lilli Cooper: Wow.

[14:08] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[14:08] Lilli Cooper: Good for that.

[14:09] Kevin Jager: Yeah, but it was a very weak year if you actually look at like what else was nominated.

[14:13] Lilli Cooper: I don't even remember what else was nominated.

[14:14] Kevin Jager: Not to say that Big River isn't great.

[14:17] Lilli Cooper: Okay.

[14:18] Kevin Jager: Sorry.

[14:18] Kevin Jager: Um that's and that's not.

[14:21] Kevin Jager: And that's not to say that Big River isn't great.

[14:23] Lilli Cooper: Correct.

[14:24] Kevin Jager: Um it just it it's a forgotten year in general.

[14:27] Lilli Cooper: I I think.

[14:27] Kevin Jager: I'm that I may be generalizing it, but anyway.

[14:30] Kevin Jager: Um and then people remember the actual the Deaf West production they did a c uh like 10 years ago.

[14:35] Lilli Cooper: Like I don't know however long ago it was.

[14:37] Kevin Jager: I think so.

[14:38] Kevin Jager: Well it was Huck West.

[14:39] Lilli Cooper: Def West is nailing it.

[14:40] Kevin Jager: Amazing.

[14:41] Lilli Cooper: Oh my god. So long story short, saw it. The cast was fantastic. The cute redhead from She Loves Me. Um Nick Barish. Oh, who played Huck? Yeah. Um and then um Harpo from Color Purple. Oh, Kyle's. Um what a man. Hey Kyle. He was he was Jim. Yes. Um my gosh. I'm like, Lauren Workshop. Yes, I was gonna say Skypony was in it. Sky Pony was in it. Lauren Worsham and I did uh an Arspo an Arsenova show together last year when she was a six month. She's like ready to drop a baby. It's their favorite thing of all time. I was their opening night and I like died. Long story short, you can't see it now, so uh I would say go see it, but it's an encore. Yeah, it's an encore. Um it would bounce over. Um they did not do an encore. Um the encore. But I'd never seen it before. I was so happy I saw it with that caliber of a cast. Right. It was a really great production. I feel like I got what it was, if that makes sense.

[15:46] Kimberly Cooper: That's awesome. You know, I have a question.

[15:49] Lilli Cooper: Sure.

[15:49] Kimberly Cooper: Did you guys have to read Huck Finn in high school?

[15:52] Lilli Cooper: No. I've never read it. I have no idea what it's about.

[15:55] Kimberly Cooper: We did not have to read it.

[15:56] Lilli Cooper: I was like, oh, is his name Huck Finn? And then you said Jim, I was like, oh wait. So Huck Finn is like, is the little is the little boy?

[16:04] Kimberly Cooper: Yes.

[16:04] Lilli Cooper: I um saw the movie with Elijah Wood.

[16:07] Kimberly Cooper: Yes.

[16:07] Lilli Cooper: Of course. And so that's where I'm basically all of my.

[16:19] Kimberly Cooper: Yes, yes, yes!

[16:20] Lilli Cooper: That's Taylor Thomas. That's what I always think of. With Becky and the painting.

[16:24] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah.

[16:25] Lilli Cooper: So can we talk more about the wildness now?

[16:28] Kimberly Cooper: Yes, Cameron.

[16:31] Lilli Cooper: Let's talk about it. Go for it.

[16:33] Kimberly Cooper: Okay. So um my uh no, I have lots of different questions. I'm trying to decide where to go with it. So one of the things that was so powerful about the wildness that Kimberly and I always talk about is that as an audience, you weren't really sure halfway through if you were acting or if we were watching a group of friends actually go through it. And did you see it twice?

[16:54] Lilli Cooper: Yes.

[16:55] Kimberly Cooper: Okay, so did I. So and then the second time I picked like but like if you watched like the performance, it's so raw and so real. What was it like through like a rehearsal process? Was there like was the script fully like set in stone, or were you given like leeway so you can make it feel as real as it did?

[17:15] Lilli Cooper: I think that was that was a vision of theirs is to make it as real as possible. And uh uh theirs, I'm referring to Skypony, uh Kyle Jarrow, and Lauren Worsham, uh, who wrote the book and the story and all the music. Um the sort of the so sort of the overarching concept of it was this was this blurring the lines between a concert and a story and a play, and like this live performance where the audience and the performers blend together, and you don't really know what is real and what isn't, and um, so there were moments in the show where we would grab audience members and they would have overshares, and they would literally tell us very intimate realities of their lives, and the actors would also.

So our overshares as the actors were pretty specific to our lives, I think, but uh they were scripted, so uh they changed throughout the rehearsal process, but um one difference was that so everybody in the show was a part of Sky Pony, except for my character, and my name was Lily in the show, and uh there was this uh missing person, and that person was my brother, and so that was really the only aspect, which was the biggest sort of story plot that wasn't real per se, was that my brother was supposed to be the lead singer of um Sky Pony or of this one night only kind of concert, and that he went missing, and so my overshare was about that, so that was fully scripted and and completely made up.

[18:48] Lilli Cooper: But what what I think was like the coolest part about it was that song in the end that um is sung by my brother, was literally sung by my brother Eddie Cooper. So it was like super meta and surreal because I was talking about my fictional brother, but at the end of the show, I would listen to this song recorded by my actual brother every night. Yeah, so it was really deep, like it was really intense. And I mean, I remember reading it for the first time. I did a reading of it like uh this summer before it happened, and I was like, I'm I don't know what's going on. Like it was confusing, it was very confusing as a reading. I wasn't sure what was even happening.

[19:25] Kimberly Cooper: I can't imagine that it would be.

[19:26] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, so like it was you know, it wasn't really until we developed it into this show that it came to life, and it made sense to anybody, really. It was so like I I immediately after I left went online and bought a ticket for another performance because I I had to see it again. I love those kinds of shows where you're like, wait, does this happen every night?

[19:44] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, just because you like buy into the but you would you would hinted on the overshares where like you would reach out to the audience and ask them like to share something that's like really going on in their life or something they're going through, and they would speak. And what I loved about that seeing the show twice was like that was obviously moments that were completely unscripted because you had audience people just sharing stuff, and I heard some really intense stuff. And it was because the show was so immersive, and so like you felt in this safe space with these friends that these people just opened and shared like really deep stuff, and that was when it was so fun to watch all of you as actors, right? Because it wasn't really acting then, you were empathizing and actually like being real, so it was like it kept blurring the lines between what was real and what was scripted.

[20:31] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, and we were hearing these brand new stories every night, so we were just reacting to these new stories that were so intimate and incredibly vulnerable. Uh it was like seeing a play and being in a prayer circle at the same time.

[20:43] Kimberly Cooper: Yeah, yeah.

[20:43] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, it was just kind of like a very like cathartic therapeutic. So go through the wild.

[20:48] Kimberly Cooper: Oh, wait. Oh, wait a minute. But you listened to uh Sky Pony on Spotify.

[20:53] Lilli Cooper: Like I did for nothing else that I listened to for like three months at first. So every if you ever ever see Sky Pony anywhere at Mercury Lounge or Rockwood or wherever they play, like go see them. They're incredible.

[21:04] Kevin Jager: Definitely go see Sky Pony. Because you also worked with Kyle on something else recently.

[21:11] Lilli Cooper: Which go for it.

[21:13] Kevin Jager: Which I got the chance to see while I was in Chicago. Um that was.

[21:19] Lilli Cooper: Can we all sing a theme song together?

[21:22] Kevin Jager: Wait, wait, wait.

[21:24] Lilli Cooper: Oh.

[21:24] Kevin Jager: Wait. Uh, are you ready, kids?

[21:27] Lilli Cooper: I am, Captain.

[21:29] Kevin Jager: I can't hear you.

[21:30] Lilli Cooper: I'm gonna go to the world.

[21:36] Kevin Jager: Who lives in a Bible under the sea?

[21:38] Lilli Cooper: SpongeBob Square Pants.

[21:40] Kevin Jager: Small absorbed in yellow Izzy.

[21:42] Lilli Cooper: SpongeBob Square Pants.

[21:44] Kevin Jager: His nautical nonsense.

[21:46] Lilli Cooper: Something you wish.

[21:47] Kevin Jager: SpongeBob Square Pants.

[21:48] Lilli Cooper: So pop on the deck, can plug like a fish.

[21:51] Kevin Jager: SpongeBob Square Pants.

[21:53] Lilli Cooper: SpongeBob SquarePants.

[21:55] Kevin Jager: SpongeBob SquarePants.

[21:57] Lilli Cooper: SpongeBob Square Panny Spongebob.

[22:04] Kevin Jager: I'm sorry. So that live next door to me. I'm probably like, what's happening?

[22:08] Lilli Cooper: So, Kevin, you saw it.

[22:10] Kevin Jager: I did. Go go for it. I am so excited to see it. Okay. At some point. I've heard such functions. What was it like getting the opportunity to sing so many different people's music with so many different things?

[22:22] Lilli Cooper: So if you don't know, the SpongeBob score is written by a multitude of people. So the concept is similar, so that's the that's the constant in it. However, each song is written by someone different. Arrow Smith wrote a song, Sarah Barellis wrote a song, plain white tees. Panic at the disco. Uh Panic at the Disco. They lend themselves so many. Each song was written by a different artist. So what was it like to kind of sample like all these different kinds of styles and really cool? Was it tricky to blend it or did it all?

[22:57] Lilli Cooper: No, because Tom Kitt is an actual brilliant genius man. Yep. Who can make anything work? And he's brilliant. Kevin like gets so giggly every time. That was what that was my top favorite thing I saw in 2016. I was floored by that show. My brother and I were just so excited to see it. And then it was just exactly it was just joy. You're giggling on the subway on the way home. And the thing is it's it's like deeper than you would than one might imagine. I mean, if you watch if you ever watched the SpongeBob cartoon, like you know that it's like it's sort of really actually made for adults.

[23:30] Kevin Jager: Absolutely.

[23:32] Lilli Cooper: And it's you know, it's like can be like sexual and and scary, and uh, I think this musical has all of those elements. I mean, you know, there are subjects of like global warming and police brutality and all of these sort of underlying themes that on the surface um can this show can be for kids, but when adults come and see it, they're like, oh damn.

[23:56] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[23:57] Lilli Cooper: There's some like deeper levels to the story. Also, one of the things that like, I mean, some of this pictures have come out about like uh the incredible part that the set plays in the show um in a lot of different ways, but there's still a lot that people haven't seen yet.

[24:13] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[24:13] Lilli Cooper: Um what was staging like and rehearsal process like when you weren't actually in a room with like all these ridiculous contraptions that make up.

[24:24] Lilli Cooper: And they actually had this incredible, they they set up all these levels for us and and actual platforms and stuff. We didn't get the scale of what the theater was in that rehearsal studio, but we got the idea of where things were, and it was all taped out and stuff. David Zinn was our costume designer and set designer.

[24:42] Kevin Jager: Oh.

[24:42] Lilli Cooper: Which is just mind-blowing. He's brilliant. Um, and yeah, there are all these found elements. So the concept was that all of these found objects fell to the bottom of the ocean. So we have the pineapple and pool noodles, and yeah, right, like a pineapple. Um, that fell to the bottom of the ocean, and we used all of these found objects. Yeah, there were a lot of elements that we didn't have in the rehearsal process. It was like the entire audience, children, adults, older people, turned into little kids again, and we all were like, oh, like, and it was just like as you're like, you just felt like the whole place. Listening was big.

[25:17] Kevin Jager: Like, I like it.

[25:19] Lilli Cooper: I know. I can't wait to watch Brian watch this show. It was incredible. And that was a cool thing to see a show that you watch families come out and little kids are giggling and laughing about stuff that they could recognize from the show. But you also watched like me and my brother, who are 30-year-old people, walk out of that show and be like, that was actually a really incredibly crafty musical, and it was funny as hell. And they do enough nods to adults that go over kids' heads that you're like that you can like really laugh at some like kind of dirty stuff.

[25:48] Lilli Cooper: I know. Like you said in the show, there's stuff in there that you're like, yeah, a little kid wouldn't get that, but like the adult in the room is like, it's like, oh uh uh uh it's really really good. And shout out to was it Ethan Slater other than Slayer?

[26:02] Kevin Jager: Ethan Slayer.

[26:04] Lilli Cooper: Don't even get me stood. Incredible. Ethan and I went to college together.

[26:08] Kevin Jager: Did you really?

[26:08] Lilli Cooper: Yes, he he's so good. He's brilliant. He's brilliant. He basically was born to play SpongeBob. He's just like another he's another ginger front side.

[26:18] Kevin Jager: Yes!

[26:19] Lilli Cooper: And he's the best. And you end up like there's a part in act two where like I literally didn't stay in there and short like crying and like wiping my eyes, and I'm like, my brother looks at me, he's like, You're crying at a SpongeBob song. And I'm like, I know, but like he's so good.

[26:31] Kevin Jager: I cry almost every time.

[26:32] Lilli Cooper: And Kevin doesn't cry in musical.

[26:34] Kevin Jager: I don't. I don't. I don't cry at movies or musicals very often, and when I do, it's like and I cry from the first note of the overture until the end.

[26:43] Lilli Cooper: Just starting to have taken over.

[26:45] Kevin Jager: I took over most of the interview portion, but for some reason I like followed your career in 2016 without noticing it. Because he also saw Tic Tick Boom.

[26:54] Lilli Cooper: But I actually with me or no, I saw uh Sierra.

[26:56] Kevin Jager: Oh it was like a week.

[26:58] Lilli Cooper: But it was like it was like and then and I also saw um who he played Plankton and was in Tic Tick Boom. So I've been following him as well this whole year. I didn't I didn't realize I was like, another incredible person that you need to listen to his music, Nick Blemeyer, he is amazing. He has a new EP out. It's called the Ampersand EP.

[27:16] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[27:16] Lilli Cooper: It's really good, so download it now. I think Kevin's a stalker.

[27:20] Kevin Jager: I'm sorry, I followed you.

[27:22] Lilli Cooper: Um I happen to see on your show. That looked good.

[27:29] Kevin Jager: Whoa, that was a really long time ago. It's weird to think how long ago that was.

[27:35] Lilli Cooper: On the total ten years ago.

[27:37] Kevin Jager: It was ten years ago. December.

[27:41] Lilli Cooper: You were in that show?

[27:42] Kevin Jager: I'm just totally kidding.

[27:44] Lilli Cooper: Who are you?

[27:45] Kevin Jager: Yeah. Um what are we doing?

[27:47] Lilli Cooper: Um we'll play a game.

[27:48] Kevin Jager: That's what we're doing.

[27:49] Lilli Cooper: Yay, game time. I love games. Okay. This first game is a twist on a favorite.

[27:52] Kevin Jager: A twist on a favorite?

[27:56] Lilli Cooper: Dirtier hands on a hard body.

[27:58] Kevin Jager: Oh.

[27:59] Lilli Cooper: Because I wanted to figure out a way that I could play too. Okay. Okay. So this. I'll explain it first.

[28:06] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[28:06] Lilli Cooper: So if you put two hands on the table. Okay. This the table's the hard body. Right. And we're gonna go around. You just put hands on me. Thanks, Brandon. Um, so we're gonna give a category, and then three people at a time. So if someone will give a category, it is usually just me. And then the three of you will rapid fire name things in that category.

[28:29] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[28:29] Lilli Cooper: If you flub, take too long to answer, or repeat something, one hand goes in the air. That's your dirty hand. Once you have two hands, you are out. And it goes until we have one lone victor.

[28:40] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[28:40] Lilli Cooper: This way that we're playing is I'm going to start and give a category, and then you threw a play. Whoever gets a dirty hand will pick the next category and the three people who did not give the category. Great, great, cool. The first category. I don't know. I already have my hands on when I'm playing this one yet. I'm really nervous. My heart's beating really nice. Maybe that's from the tequila.

[29:10] Lilli Cooper: Oh, I don't know. The first one is.

[29:16] Kevin Jager: Childhood cartoons.

[29:17] Lilli Cooper: Oh that's Rugrats.

[29:19] Kevin Jager: That's exactly what I was going to say.

[29:20] Lilli Cooper: Cat dog.

[29:21] Kevin Jager: He mean.

[29:22] Lilli Cooper: Angry Beavers.

[29:23] Lilli Cooper: Sabrina the D Day Dwight.

[29:24] Bryan Pullofski: Shira.

[29:25] Lilli Cooper: It's not a cartoon.

[29:26] Bryan Pullofski: No.

[29:27] Lilli Cooper: It was a cartoon.

[29:28] Kevin Jager: I think it was a cartoon.

[29:31] Lilli Cooper: It does.

[29:34] Kevin Jager: Ren and Stimpy.

[29:35] Lilli Cooper: Um I think I'm I was ready with Jim.

[29:35] Bryan Pullofski: I was ready with Doug.

[29:45] Lilli Cooper: Am I older than everyone?

[29:48] Kevin Jager: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[29:49] Lilli Cooper: The Punky Brewster animated version.

[29:52] Bryan Pullofski: Strawberry Shortcake and Rainbow Bright.

[29:55] Lilli Cooper: Okay, yep. I know both of them.

[29:56] Bryan Pullofski: Alright.

[29:56] Lilli Cooper: Okay, so my category.

[29:59] Lilli Cooper: Female singer songwriters.

[30:03] Kevin Jager: Sarah Borelis.

[30:04] Lilli Cooper: I was gonna say Alana's Morrisette.

[30:06] Kevin Jager: Melissa Etheridge.

[30:07] Lilli Cooper: Okay.

[30:07] Kevin Jager: Bonnie Rate.

[30:09] Lilli Cooper: Ooh. Oh, throwback.

[30:12] Kevin Jager: Carol King.

[30:13] Lilli Cooper: Uh-huh.

[30:13] Kevin Jager: Uh Cindy Lauper.

[30:15] Lilli Cooper: Yep.

[30:15] Kevin Jager: Raina James.

[30:16] Lilli Cooper: She's fictional.

[30:19] Kevin Jager: I didn't differentiate.

[30:20] Lilli Cooper: She had cheap!

[30:22] Kevin Jager: That's true.

[30:24] Lilli Cooper: I guess it does.

[30:25] Lilli Cooper: I'm still gonna go with Shania Twain.

[30:28] Kevin Jager: Wow.

[30:28] Lilli Cooper: Carly Simon.

[30:29] Kevin Jager: I love Carly Simon.

[30:32] Lilli Cooper: Okay, alright.

[30:33] Lilli Cooper: Um Alicia Keys.

[30:37] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[30:38] Lilli Cooper: Oh.

[30:38] Kevin Jager: She babysat me, by the way.

[30:40] Lilli Cooper: What?

[30:40] Kevin Jager: Alicia.

[30:41] Lilli Cooper: Love you.

[30:42] Kevin Jager: Really?

[30:43] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[30:44] Kevin Jager: So crazy.

[30:45] Lilli Cooper: Just like a random tidbit.

[30:47] Bryan Pullofski: Oh my god, that's incredible.

[30:48] Lilli Cooper: My brain is flashed.

[30:49] Lilli Cooper: I'm gonna put a hand up because I can't because now I'm just thinking about you two like singing together when you were a child, and she's like riffing it in your riffing back.

[30:56] Lilli Cooper: Just imagine like Alicia Keys like singing me to sleep, and like in my dreams, I'm like, I want to sing like her.

[31:02] Lilli Cooper: And here I am.

[31:03] Bryan Pullofski: Oh, I can't wait to tell you.

[31:07] Lilli Cooper: Probably.

[31:08] Bryan Pullofski: And then when you start in the Alicia Keys story, it's gonna be like full circle for you.

[31:13] Lilli Cooper: Exactly.

[31:15] Bryan Pullofski: Oh man, I can't wait.

[31:16] Lilli Cooper: I hope it's just as good as the Britney one.

[31:19] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[31:20] Lilli Cooper: I need to.

[31:21] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[31:21] Lilli Cooper: You watch the Britney one?

[31:22] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[31:22] Lilli Cooper: There's two things that are.

[31:25] Kevin Jager: Some random.

[31:25] Lilli Cooper: Cheers to the random.

[31:26] Kevin Jager: Justin and Brittany have a dance off.

[31:28] Lilli Cooper: And it's in a bar.

[31:30] Kevin Jager: No, who plays Justin?

[31:32] Lilli Cooper: It's a random.

[31:33] Kevin Jager: It's lifetime.

[31:35] Lilli Cooper: But it's not.

[31:36] Kevin Jager: No, just watch it.

[31:37] Lilli Cooper: Also, they don't want product placement, so they just taped duct tape over the backs of like the car logos.

[31:43] Kevin Jager: Oh, come on.

[31:44] Lilli Cooper: Wonderful.

[31:45] Kevin Jager: Wow.

[31:46] Lilli Cooper: Oh, they lost their budget category.

[31:50] Lilli Cooper: Okay, so um category is musicals about teenagers.

[31:54] Lilli Cooper: Wow.

[31:55] Kevin Jager: Spring awakening.

[31:56] Lilli Cooper: Dear Evan Hansen.

[31:59] Kevin Jager: Rent.

[31:59] Lilli Cooper: I should have lost already, but rent.

[32:01] Kevin Jager: Oh, it's back to me.

[32:02] Lilli Cooper: Runaways.

[32:03] Kevin Jager: Is there life after high school?

[32:04] Lilli Cooper: Next to normal.

[32:05] Kevin Jager: Good one.

[32:06] Lilli Cooper: And I'm done.

[32:08] Kevin Jager: I was gonna say 13.

[32:10] Lilli Cooper: Oh no!

[32:14] Kevin Jager: Original teenagers.

[32:16] Lilli Cooper: 13.

[32:17] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[32:18] Lilli Cooper: So I have one hand up.

[32:19] Kevin Jager: Yeah, I have one hand up.

[32:20] Lilli Cooper: I have no hands up.

[32:22] Bryan Pullofski: Alright, let's get Brian.

[32:23] Lilli Cooper: Um, take a category.

[32:25] Bryan Pullofski: This is actually good because you can actually like Christian things.

[32:30] Lilli Cooper: I found it really well.

[32:35] Bryan Pullofski: Um, but this is I like this game because now like you can actually plan to try and get somebody out if it rotates.

[32:42] Lilli Cooper: That's true, that's true.

[32:45] Bryan Pullofski: That's what I'm talking about plays that were turned into musicals.

[32:48] Lilli Cooper: Oh, that's hard.

[32:49] Bryan Pullofski: Play wait, sorry. The play the title of the play.

[32:52] Lilli Cooper: The title of a play that has been turned into a musical that has been turned into a musical, not a movie.

[32:58] Kevin Jager: Oh you okay.

[33:00] Lilli Cooper: Wow.

[33:01] Kevin Jager: No, I had one.

[33:02] Lilli Cooper: Um can I say spring awakening?

[33:05] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[33:05] Lilli Cooper: Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[33:06] Kevin Jager: That's why I chose that.

[33:07] Lilli Cooper: Um can I say Pygmalion?

[33:08] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[33:09] Lilli Cooper: The taming of the shrew?

[33:11] Kevin Jager: Oh, good one.

[33:12] Lilli Cooper: Romeo and Juliet.

[33:14] Kevin Jager: Hamlet.

[33:16] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, Lion King.

[33:17] Kevin Jager: Yep, yep, yep.

[33:18] Lilli Cooper: Um whoa.

[33:19] Kevin Jager: Pulling that one out.

[33:21] Lilli Cooper: No, it's true, it's true.

[33:22] Kevin Jager: Solid.

[33:23] Lilli Cooper: Um We are lenient in this game.

[33:27] Kevin Jager: No, this one's hard.

[33:29] Lilli Cooper: Three.

[33:29] Kevin Jager: I got nothing.

[33:30] Lilli Cooper: I was looking for a Green Girl the lilacs, which became Oklahoma.

[33:34] Lilli Cooper: And then Carousel.

[33:35] Kevin Jager: And a Lilium, which became Carousel.

[33:37] Lilli Cooper: Also the shop around the corner, which became Golden Boy.

[33:42] Kevin Jager: No one would have known Golden Boy.

[33:44] Lilli Cooper: Well, that's what I was saying next.

[33:46] Bryan Pullofski: Okay, so now I get to come with a category.

[33:48] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[33:48] Bryan Pullofski: I'm gonna make y'all.

[33:49] Lilli Cooper: You die.

[33:49] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[33:50] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, I'm out.

[33:51] Lilli Cooper: Um the category is boy bands.

[33:55] Kevin Jager: Ooh, that's good.

[33:56] Lilli Cooper: In sync.

[33:57] Kevin Jager: Backstreet boys.

[33:59] Lilli Cooper: 98 degrees.

[34:00] Kevin Jager: New kids on the block.

[34:02] Lilli Cooper: Oh town.

[34:03] Kevin Jager: One direction.

[34:05] Lilli Cooper: Menudo.

[34:05] Kevin Jager: There you go.

[34:06] Lilli Cooper: Oh, you get like, can I say Ildebo?

[34:08] Kevin Jager: Sure.

[34:10] Lilli Cooper: The man bands.

[34:10] Kevin Jager: Yeah, no, I'm the man.

[34:12] Lilli Cooper: I'm gonna go with um oh my gosh.

[34:16] Lilli Cooper: What can um uh I was thinking?

[34:19] Kevin Jager: Put your hand up.

[34:19] Lilli Cooper: Okay, I'll put my hand up.

[34:20] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[34:21] Lilli Cooper: You had both hands.

[34:22] Kevin Jager: Like, come on.

[34:23] Lilli Cooper: Together.

[34:25] Kevin Jager: No, I wasn't making it together.

[34:26] Lilli Cooper: Together!

[34:27] Kevin Jager: Um algebra, a trick and numb, but trigger will never equal up to what you mean to me.

[34:31] Lilli Cooper: Oh my together.

[34:35] Kevin Jager: Wait, was that the joke one that was on MTV?

[34:37] Lilli Cooper: Yes, I loved that one.

[34:38] Kevin Jager: T T.

[34:39] Lilli Cooper: U plus me equals plus or something, right?

[34:42] Kevin Jager: Calculus.

[34:43] Lilli Cooper: Calculus, yeah.

[34:45] Kevin Jager: Plus side.

[34:46] Lilli Cooper: Me.

[34:47] Kevin Jager: Equal sign.

[34:48] Lilli Cooper: Uh anybody here see album.

[34:53] Kevin Jager: And then what was the other song they had?

[34:54] Lilli Cooper: Um, the hardest part of breaking up is getting back your stuff.

[35:01] Kevin Jager: Did everybody say Pop Star, Never Stop, Never Stoppin'?

[35:04] Lilli Cooper: Yes.

[35:04] Kevin Jager: It was so good.

[35:06] Lilli Cooper: Really good.

[35:06] Kevin Jager: Really?

[35:07] Lilli Cooper: Really good.

[35:07] Kevin Jager: Yeah, random funny.

[35:09] Lilli Cooper: I love it in Tampero.

[35:10] Bryan Pullofski: Okay, I need to say it.

[35:11] Lilli Cooper: Okay, you can do that category.

[35:13] Lilli Cooper: My category is Cooper's.

[35:15] Kevin Jager: Uh-oh.

[35:16] Lilli Cooper: Cooper's.

[35:16] Kevin Jager: Here we go.

[35:18] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, this is a Cooper show down.

[35:20] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[35:21] Lilli Cooper: Um James Cooper's.

[35:27] Kevin Jager: Musicals.

[35:28] Lilli Cooper: Yes.

[35:29] Kevin Jager: Written by bands.

[35:32] Lilli Cooper: It doesn't have to be a band, but it could be like jukebox.

[35:36] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[35:36] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, yeah.

[35:37] Kevin Jager: But but oh, it doesn't have to be a jukebox.

[35:39] Lilli Cooper: Like the wildness would count.

[35:40] Kevin Jager: Wildest.

[35:41] Lilli Cooper: Yes, the wildness would count.

[35:42] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[35:43] Lilli Cooper: Oh, all shook up.

[35:45] Kevin Jager: Mamma Mia.

[35:46] Lilli Cooper: Million dollar quartet.

[35:49] Kevin Jager: The queen one.

[35:50] Lilli Cooper: We will rock you.

[35:52] Kevin Jager: I'll allow it.

[35:52] Lilli Cooper: Okay.

[35:53] Kevin Jager: Chess.

[35:55] Lilli Cooper: Oh.

[35:57] Kevin Jager: Kevin's cheating, right?

[35:59] Lilli Cooper: Thanks for calling me cheat.

[36:00] Kevin Jager: Thanks for having me cheating.

[36:01] Lilli Cooper: I turned it into charades.

[36:03] Kevin Jager: But the fact that I could figure out what that was.

[36:05] Lilli Cooper: That's pretty good.

[36:06] Kevin Jager: I deserve points.

[36:09] Lilli Cooper: I know it's like Passing Strange.

[36:13] Kevin Jager: Oh yeah.

[36:14] Lilli Cooper: Absolutely.

[36:15] Kevin Jager: And I salute you for that.

[36:17] Lilli Cooper: Thank you.

[36:17] Kevin Jager: Good choice.

[36:18] Lilli Cooper: Now matter.

[36:23] Lilli Cooper: Spring awakening.

[36:24] Kevin Jager: Boom.

[36:26] Lilli Cooper: Waitress.

[36:27] Kevin Jager: That's the one I've got.

[36:29] Lilli Cooper: Snack.

[36:30] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[36:31] Lilli Cooper: American Snacker.

[36:32] Kevin Jager: I'm out.

[36:33] Lilli Cooper: I have two hands up.

[36:34] Kevin Jager: Wow.

[36:35] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, absolutely.

[36:36] Bryan Pullofski: Okay, new category.

[36:38] Lilli Cooper: Alright, alright.

[36:39] Kevin Jager: You both have one hand up?

[36:40] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[36:41] Bryan Pullofski: For the win.

[36:42] Lilli Cooper: TV dramas.

[36:44] Kevin Jager: Good.

[36:44] Lilli Cooper: Oh, great.

[36:45] Bryan Pullofski: You want to start?

[36:46] Lilli Cooper: Who starts?

[36:46] Kevin Jager: No.

[36:47] Bryan Pullofski: Brian.

[36:47] Lilli Cooper: You start, Brian.

[36:48] Bryan Pullofski: E R.

[36:49] Kevin Jager: Scandal.

[36:49] Lilli Cooper: Parenthood.

[36:50] Kevin Jager: How to get away with murder.

[36:51] Lilli Cooper: Friday Night Lights.

[36:52] Kevin Jager: Gray's Anatomy.

[36:53] Lilli Cooper: Mad Men.

[36:54] Kevin Jager: That TV show, that's sad.

[36:57] Lilli Cooper: This is us.

[36:58] Kevin Jager: I think that's what you meant.

[37:01] Lilli Cooper: Breaking Bad.

[37:03] Kevin Jager: Better Call Saul.

[37:04] Lilli Cooper: Sopranos.

[37:05] Kevin Jager: Grace Land.

[37:07] Lilli Cooper: Oz.

[37:12] Kevin Jager: I don't know.

[37:13] Lilli Cooper: I literally.

[37:18] Kevin Jager: I ran so much television.

[37:20] Lilli Cooper: You handed that one to me.

[37:21] Kevin Jager: Well, that would be a fun back and forth.

[37:22] Lilli Cooper: That was.

[37:23] Kevin Jager: That was a good one.

[37:24] Lilli Cooper: I want to watch all of those shows.

[37:25] Lilli Cooper: My next one was Six Feet Under.

[37:26] Kevin Jager: I was going through the HBO shows.

[37:28] Lilli Cooper: I went to NC, I was going to the HBO and I was in a movie.

[37:31] Kevin Jager: That's what I should have done.

[37:31] Lilli Cooper: I just showed it.

[37:32] Kevin Jager: I didn't have a show.

[37:33] Lilli Cooper: I also liked all the little singing you would do before you do it to think.

[37:35] Lilli Cooper: Like when you're like, what is the first Broadway show you ever saw?

[37:42] Lilli Cooper: Ooh, good question.

[37:43] Lilli Cooper: You grew up around.

[37:44] Lilli Cooper: I was actually thinking about that.

[37:45] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, I grew up in Midtown in Hal's Kitchen.

[37:47] Lilli Cooper: Right.

[37:48] Lilli Cooper: Um, and my dad's an actor.

[37:49] Lilli Cooper: So he was on Broadway when I was like five.

[37:51] Lilli Cooper: And I think that his show was the first Broadway show that I saw.

[37:54] Lilli Cooper: Oh, cool.

[37:55] Lilli Cooper: And it's funny that I can't actually remember what my first Broadway show was because I just I happened to see a bunch of Broadway shows when I was a kid.

[38:01] Lilli Cooper: So I that it wasn't like a standout experience of like my first Barbara show was The Lion King or Wicked or something like that.

[38:07] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[38:07] Lilli Cooper: Uh he was in a play called Getting Away with Murder, which was written by Steven Sondheim.

[38:15] Lilli Cooper: A play by Sondheim.

[38:17] Kevin Jager: Oh wow.

[38:18] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, wild, right?

[38:19] Kevin Jager: And I saw that, and I I think it was in a 95-ish.

[38:22] Lilli Cooper: So I I think I think that that was my first Broadway show.

[38:27] Lilli Cooper: I could be wrong, but I think so.

[38:30] Bryan Pullofski: If you were being sent to a desert island.

[38:32] Lilli Cooper: Yes.

[38:33] Bryan Pullofski: And you could only see one musical done perfectly, you don't know who's gonna meet it.

[38:38] Lilli Cooper: It doesn't matter who's in it, but you get to see one musical done absolutely the most perfect like version of that show, and then you're sent away forever.

[38:45] Lilli Cooper: What would you see?

[38:47] Lilli Cooper: Okay. That is such a good question.

[38:49] Lilli Cooper: Live?

[38:50] Lilli Cooper: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[38:52] Lilli Cooper: Alright.

[38:53] Lilli Cooper: See, I would I would say it should be something that I haven't ever seen, but I would also want it to be something maybe that I have seen, but I would want to see again.

[39:02] Lilli Cooper: Like, okay, so I would say Into the Woods, because I I was never able to see the original Into the Woods Live.

[39:09] Lilli Cooper: I of course have watched it on Netflix and PBS a thousand thousand million times.

[39:15] Lilli Cooper: Right.

[39:16] Lilli Cooper: Uh but I would love to see a live production of that, like perfectly done.

[39:20] Lilli Cooper: Oh, ragtime.

[39:21] Kevin Jager: Right.

[39:21] Lilli Cooper: Right time.

[39:22] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[39:22] Lilli Cooper: That is most people ask ragtime's the one.

[39:25] Kevin Jager: Really?

[39:26] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[39:26] Lilli Cooper: That's actually a very popular answer.

[39:28] Kevin Jager: Interesting.

[39:28] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[39:28] Lilli Cooper: Okay.

[39:29] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[39:29] Lilli Cooper: I think it just everything.

[39:31] Lilli Cooper: Because also it's like a pretty it's a pretty flawless musical, I think.

[39:35] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[39:36] Lilli Cooper: I just haven't seen a production of it.

[39:39] Lilli Cooper: So I would love to see it.

[39:40] Lilli Cooper: I said I said Caroline or Change because oh it runs the game out of all the fields.

[39:45] Kevin Jager: Oh yeah.

[39:46] Lilli Cooper: And I said Merrily because they're crafted.

[39:50] Kevin Jager: Oh interesting.

[39:51] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, yeah.

[39:52] Lilli Cooper: I said Mala Mantra.

[39:54] Kevin Jager: Oh yeah, because you just love it.

[39:55] Lilli Cooper: Oh, speaking of Marily.

[39:56] Kevin Jager: And the wild party.

[39:58] Lilli Cooper: The wild party lippas version.

[40:00] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[40:00] Lilli Cooper: Okay.

[40:01] Lilli Cooper: Only because I don't know Lacusa's version.

[40:03] Kevin Jager: I don't either.

[40:04] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[40:04] Lilli Cooper: So you'd rather see the one you know done perfectly.

[40:06] Lilli Cooper: Exactly.

[40:06] Lilli Cooper: Yes.

[40:09] Bryan Pullofski: Talk a little bit about your experience with Wicked.

[40:12] Lilli Cooper: Wicked.

[40:13] Lilli Cooper: How long were you?

[40:14] Lilli Cooper: Uh Wicked was a journey.

[40:15] Lilli Cooper: Wicked was a long journey.

[40:17] Lilli Cooper: I was on tour for a year as the understudy for Alphaba.

[40:22] Lilli Cooper: And I only went on as Alphabet twice.

[40:24] Lilli Cooper: In the whole year.

[40:25] Lilli Cooper: In the whole year.

[40:26] Kevin Jager: Wow.

[40:26] Lilli Cooper: So it was rough.

[40:27] Lilli Cooper: It was a challenge.

[40:28] Lilli Cooper: Like, you know, I felt like I wasn't really doing the job that I was hired to do.

[40:32] Lilli Cooper: But that's sort of the nature of the game.

[40:34] Lilli Cooper: I was the second cover, so it made sense that I didn't go on at all.

[40:37] Lilli Cooper: But I got to go on in two different cities, and my mom and my brothers came to see me.

[40:41] Lilli Cooper: So that was really cool.

[40:42] Bryan Pullofski: That's awesome.

[40:42] Lilli Cooper: And then after that, I got asked to come to Broadway as the standby.

[40:46] Lilli Cooper: So my whole experience, I think, was about two and a half years of wicked.

[40:54] Bryan Pullofski: Did you go on at the Gershwin?

[40:56] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, I went on a lot at the Girls show.

[40:57] Kevin Jager: Oh, you did.

[40:58] Lilli Cooper: I actually had a 10-show stint over eight days.

[41:02] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[41:03] Lilli Cooper: I was on a lot.

[41:04] Lilli Cooper: Um, and I did 10 shows in a row, and it that was that was crazy.

[41:09] Lilli Cooper: I it was a huge learning curve.

[41:11] Lilli Cooper: Like, I remember when I first learned it, I would do one show and I would lose my voice entirely.

[41:14] Lilli Cooper: And then I was able to do 10 shows in a row.

[41:17] Lilli Cooper: So I grew absolutely.

[41:23] Kevin Jager: Like, you can't just wake up one day and choose to do that.

[41:25] Lilli Cooper: Wait, I can't?

[41:26] Kevin Jager: No, you can't.

[41:27] Lilli Cooper: You can just wake up and be alphabet. That's not how it works.

[41:31] Bryan Pullofski: Hi, is it my turn? Can I do it now?

[41:34] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[41:35] Lilli Cooper: Definitely.

[41:38] Lilli Cooper: That's sort of what being a standby was.

[41:40] Lilli Cooper: Except for one night when I went on in the middle of the show.

[41:45] Kevin Jager: What's that like?

[41:47] Lilli Cooper: It was and at what point in the show?

[41:49] Lilli Cooper: Less it was less scary and more the coolest thing I've ever done in my life because I felt like a superhero.

[41:55] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[41:56] Lilli Cooper: Like I it was awesome.

[41:58] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[41:58] Lilli Cooper: It was really cool.

[41:59] Lilli Cooper: And I was like four inches taller than the girl who was playing it.

[42:02] Lilli Cooper: So, like the first five five rows were like, Who's that green girl?

[42:06] Kevin Jager: Oh, they didn't make it announced.

[42:07] Lilli Cooper: They did, but I went on in the middle of act one.

[42:10] Lilli Cooper: So it was like a tag team.

[42:11] Lilli Cooper: It was incredible.

[42:12] Lilli Cooper: Um did they announce in the middle of the act, or they wait till no, they wait till intermission.

[42:17] Kevin Jager: So, like, was there a pause for the pull on?

[42:19] Lilli Cooper: Like, no, okay.

[42:20] Lilli Cooper: Oh, sorry.

[42:22] Lilli Cooper: It was like usually when you go on when you're uh being put into green makeup, it takes about 20 to 25 minutes, and they literally slap you on a green paint with paintbrushes.

[42:33] Lilli Cooper: Like it's crazy.

[42:34] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[42:34] Lilli Cooper: Um, but when you're going in quickly, it took I think six minutes.

[42:40] Kevin Jager: So way less detail, more like just as long as you're as long as you're green.

[42:46] Lilli Cooper: They buy time, how'd they do that?

[42:48] Lilli Cooper: Or like so the this depends on what what's wrong, right?

[42:51] Lilli Cooper: Who was playing it was was sick, and she was her stomach was hurting, and so she knew that she had to leave stage to throw up.

[42:57] Lilli Cooper: And so she was like, All right, I'll last as long as I like physically can.

[43:01] Lilli Cooper: Poor thing, she was such a trooper, badass.

[43:05] Lilli Cooper: But it got to the point where it was popular, and she was, you know, you're sitting, she's sitting on a bed during popular, so she's just sort of like tell.

[43:16] Lilli Cooper: And I got a stage manager call to the it was like Lily Cooper, please report to the alphabet dressing room.

[43:23] Lilli Cooper: And I ran downstairs, and I knew that she wasn't really feeling well, so I was like mentally prepared.

[43:23] Lilli Cooper: I was like mentally prepared just in case that were to happen, and I warmed up vocally.

[43:34] Lilli Cooper: So I ran down to the dressing room.

[43:35] Lilli Cooper: It took seven six, seven minutes to get into uh costume and makeup, and I was sitting in the wing, putting my shoes on and like finishing getting my costume on as she was still on stage, and like we made eye contact when she was on stage, and she was like, she was it was like very gracious, like she wanted to leave stage, and I was just there to take over, and we literally tag teamed, like we high-fived as she walked off stage to change scenes.

[44:05] Lilli Cooper: What a wow.

[44:07] Kevin Jager: Yeah.

[44:07] Lilli Cooper: What is the announcement like?

[44:09] Kevin Jager: Like, in case you didn't notice, yeah.

[44:12] Lilli Cooper: It was after intermission, right before the Technacks started, it was uh, ladies and gentlemen.

[44:17] Lilli Cooper: Uh the remainder of the performance, the role of Elphaba will be played by Lilli Cooper.

[44:22] Lilli Cooper: And it was just that. It wasn't like, you know, that's amazing. Because so-and-so got sick.

[44:28] Lilli Cooper: I sweat a lot, so I would like sweat green makeup everywhere.

[44:33] Lilli Cooper: There's green makeup everywhere, all throughout backstage and the grocery.

[44:36] Kevin Jager: I'm sure.

[44:37] Lilli Cooper: Like all the collar of like every girl's dresses and like all over Fiero's face and hands.

[44:45] Lilli Cooper: Um so I would put a an incredible trick that one of the tour makeup artists taught me was putting deodorant on my face.

[44:53] Lilli Cooper: Like before we worked like anti-perspirant, like a roll-on?

[44:56] Lilli Cooper: Yep. Putting antiperspirant on your face. And it's actually good, it's a good like primer, sort of, so it would it made it easier to take it off.

[45:04] Kevin Jager: Oh, that's brilliant.

[45:06] Lilli Cooper: And it helped to sort of like draw your sweat to the surface, so it would just sort of like lay on top of your makeup as opposed to dripping it off.

[45:13] Lilli Cooper: So putting deodorant on your face before the little things you learn before.

[45:17] Kevin Jager: Yeah, crazy, right?

[45:19] Lilli Cooper: But I would notice if I did it, if I ever did it last minute, or if I got to the theater too late, or if I had to like you know get into costume really quickly and I didn't put it on, I could I would totally notice the difference between putting makeup on with deodorant and without. It's so weird.

[45:33] Kevin Jager: Well, that's weird.

[45:35] Lilli Cooper: Like staring at a deodorant stick, like, I'd just be like, All right, you're gonna go on the show. I chose Tom's because I was like, ah, it's organic.

[45:45] Kevin Jager: Yeah, I didn't know, dub.

[45:47] Lilli Cooper: Sure. I'm sure. Put it all over your face.

[45:50] Kevin Jager: Um we play another game?

[45:52] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, let's do it.

[45:53] Kevin Jager: Cool. For plot points.

[45:54] Lilli Cooper: Okay. So in the little fox measuring cup, I have titles of songs for musicals.

[46:01] Lilli Cooper: And then what's this guy? Is he a coal?

[46:03] Lilli Cooper: He's a raccoon. And in the raccoon measuring cup, I have titles of musicals.

[46:09] Lilli Cooper: Um you'll pick one from each, and then you'll try to explain the plot of the musical you picked.

[46:15] Lilli Cooper: Okay to the tune of the song that you picked. Ready?

[46:18] Kevin Jager: Yep.

[46:18] Lilli Cooper: Yes.

[46:19] Lilli Cooper: Yellow haired lawyer.

[46:23] Kevin Jager: Uh yellow hair.

[46:28] Lilli Cooper: There you go.

[46:29] Kevin Jager: Oh, okay.

[46:30] Lilli Cooper: Yellow.

[46:31] Kevin Jager: I get it.

[46:35] Lilli Cooper: That's incredible.

[46:36] Kevin Jager: That's good. What's trying next?

[46:38] Lilli Cooper: Yellow hair lawyer.

[46:39] Kevin Jager: I mean, I'll try.

[46:40] Lilli Cooper: Okay, I'll try. I'll try.

[46:42] Lilli Cooper: I'm cockney, but I don't know how to speak in proper English.

[46:49] Kevin Jager: It's my fairly.

[46:50] Lilli Cooper: And I'm cockney, but it's yes, that's right.

[46:56] Kevin Jager: Goodbye until I know that interval.

[47:06] Lilli Cooper: Oh my god.

[47:07] Kevin Jager: Oh, that's incredible.

[47:09] Lilli Cooper: Wow, Kevin. You know, and sometimes you like interval.

[47:12] Kevin Jager: I know what that is.

[47:14] Lilli Cooper: I heard that someday. I love that.

[47:17] Kevin Jager: Interval?

[47:17] Lilli Cooper: Interval of my heart, the Kevin Jager story.

[47:20] Kevin Jager: That's my memoir.

[47:22] Lilli Cooper: I'm nice, so my boyfriend doesn't want me.

[47:25] Lilli Cooper: So I'm gonna become a slut. Then he'll want me and well, I'll all do the hand jive, because that goes.

[47:34] Lilli Cooper: I am happy now with me because I'm wearing leather pants and I'm dumb.

[47:39] Lilli Cooper: I'm not smart enough. I have confidence.

[47:49] Kevin Jager: I have no confidence.

[47:50] Lilli Cooper: Exactly. This is the whole point of the card. I have no confidence at all.

[47:55] Lilli Cooper: Changing her outside will totally change your personality. This is a great message for young girls.

[48:03] Kevin Jager: All right. Ready?

[48:04] Lilli Cooper: Ready, ready, ready.

[48:05] Lilli Cooper: There's a creepy man backstage.

[48:09] Kevin Jager: Phantom of the opera.

[48:11] Lilli Cooper: Yeah. Phantom of the opera.

[48:16] Lilli Cooper: There's a creepy guy backstage.

[48:20] Kevin Jager: Is that off the plot?

[48:21] Lilli Cooper: I love that game.

[48:22] Kevin Jager: Oh, super fun. Good one.

[48:24] Lilli Cooper: Yeah. Um, lights of Broadway.

[48:26] Kevin Jager: Lights of Broadway.

[48:27] Lilli Cooper: Hey, Squigs. This is Pick a Little Talk a Little.

[48:31] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[48:31] Lilli Cooper: Oh, we haven't played this in a while.

[48:33] Kevin Jager: I know. I looked at our own website today to figure out what games to play.

[48:39] Lilli Cooper: I was like, oh, what games have I played before? I was like, there is a back catalog that I can look at.

[48:45] Lilli Cooper: So I have a stack of Lights of Broadway show cards in my hand.

[48:49] Lilli Cooper: We're gonna go round Robin around the table.

[48:51] Lilli Cooper: Okay. And you're going to each person gets one card. They're gonna look at it. You can either use one word to give the whole table a clue, or you can hum something if that is easier.

[49:02] Kevin Jager: Great.

[49:02] Lilli Cooper: And everyone who is not giving a hint is guessing.

[49:05] Lilli Cooper: If you guess correctly, you take that card from the person giving the hint. Hold on, true.

[49:10] Lilli Cooper: And then that person will pass the pile to the next person. Okay. Great.

[49:14] Lilli Cooper: So the first the person with the most cards that they've guessed correctly wins. How many times do we go around?

[49:19] Kevin Jager: I'm gonna set the timer for two minutes.

[49:22] Lilli Cooper: Oh, oh, oh, oh. So it is now set for two minutes. Brian, start.

[49:25] Kevin Jager: Great. Comet.

[49:27] Lilli Cooper: Natasha Pierre and the great comet of 1812.

[49:31] Kevin Jager: Rachel Chadkin.

[49:33] Lilli Cooper: Yes.

[49:33] Kevin Jager: For real?

[49:34] Lilli Cooper: Yeah. Amazing.

[49:36] Kevin Jager: Whoa, wait, what is this? So then you get the first one.

[49:39] Lilli Cooper: These are Lisa Brown with trading cards. Have you not seen these?

[49:43] Kevin Jager: Oh no. We'll talk about them in a second.

[49:45] Lilli Cooper: Okay, so one word to get us to guess.

[49:48] Kevin Jager: Murder.

[49:50] Lilli Cooper: Sweet.

[49:51] Kevin Jager: Gentleman's guide.

[49:52] Lilli Cooper: No, it's the guy who's doing how to get uh Bryce Pinkham.

[49:55] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[49:55] Lilli Cooper: Oh good one.

[49:58] Kevin Jager: Wow, yeah. I have not seen these. This is so cool.

[50:00] Lilli Cooper: Dance.

[50:02] Kevin Jager: Fossey.

[50:04] Lilli Cooper: Michael Bennett.

[50:04] Kevin Jager: Drum Robbins.

[50:06] Lilli Cooper: More contempt.

[50:07] Kevin Jager: Contact.

[50:07] Lilli Cooper: Warren Carlisle?

[50:08] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[50:09] Lilli Cooper: Oh, nice.

[50:10] Kevin Jager: Xana do.

[50:11] Lilli Cooper: Carrie Butler.

[50:12] Kevin Jager: Warner.

[50:14] Lilli Cooper: Brothers.

[50:15] Kevin Jager: Oh, it's um um um Warner?

[50:18] Lilli Cooper: Warner Want.

[50:20] Kevin Jager: He was in Bronxville, too.

[50:23] Lilli Cooper: Oh, Richard Blake!

[50:24] Kevin Jager: Yeah!

[50:24] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, Elsa.

[50:27] Kevin Jager: It's Betsy.

[50:28] Lilli Cooper: Betty Wolf.

[50:29] Kevin Jager: I think Kevin has that one.

[50:30] Kevin Jager: Kevin.

[50:31] Lilli Cooper: I get it. I get Betsy.

[50:33] Kevin Jager: Hmm.

[50:34] Lilli Cooper: Hmm.

[50:35] Kevin Jager: Sugar Butter Flower.

[50:38] Lilli Cooper: Sarah Butter Ellis.

[50:39] Kevin Jager: Uh Julie, Jesse Mueller.

[50:41] Lilli Cooper: Jesse Mueller.

[50:42] Kevin Jager: Kellis that off.

[50:43] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[50:43] Kevin Jager: Oh.

[50:45] Lilli Cooper: Oh my god. Good one.

[50:46] Kevin Jager: Wow.

[50:48] Lilli Cooper: Wait, can we play them for two more minutes?

[50:50] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[50:50] Lilli Cooper: Who has everybody has everybody? I really like this?

[50:52] Kevin Jager: Go to the couch.

[50:54] Lilli Cooper: Okay, but I but I just like this game.

[50:56] Kevin Jager: Talk about intervals.

[50:58] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, right. Absolutely.

[51:00] Lilli Cooper: Holiday.

[51:02] Kevin Jager: Corner blue.

[51:04] Lilli Cooper: Whoa.

[51:05] Kevin Jager: Whoa!

[51:06] Lilli Cooper: Wow, you're not sure.

[51:07] Kevin Jager: I don't think two men of them are yellow corb and blue at the same time.

[51:13] Lilli Cooper: Roxy.

[51:14] Kevin Jager: Heart.

[51:15] Lilli Cooper: Glenn Verden, yes.

[51:16] Kevin Jager: Ooh, classy.

[51:18] Lilli Cooper: Midtown.

[51:19] Kevin Jager: Stage Orcanteen.

[51:21] Lilli Cooper: Oh, Times Square.

[51:21] Kevin Jager: Yes.

[51:22] Lilli Cooper: Yes.

[51:22] Kevin Jager: Oh, I thought I had it.

[51:23] Lilli Cooper: No, it's my fancy Times Square foil card.

[51:26] Kevin Jager: It's a foil card?

[51:27] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[51:27] Kevin Jager: Oh wow.

[51:28] Lilli Cooper: Producers.

[51:29] Kevin Jager: Matthew Broderick, yes.

[51:31] Lilli Cooper: Oh.

[51:32] Kevin Jager: Oh, I like his card a lot.

[51:33] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, it's really good.

[51:34] Kevin Jager: Tunnel.

[51:37] Lilli Cooper: Lincoln.

[51:38] Kevin Jager: In transit.

[51:41] Lilli Cooper: Holland.

[51:41] Kevin Jager: Holland Taylor.

[51:44] Lilli Cooper: Wow.

[51:45] Kevin Jager: Unbelievable.

[51:46] Lilli Cooper: That was good.

[51:48] Kevin Jager: Dream Girls.

[51:49] Lilli Cooper: Jennifer Holiday.

[51:51] Kevin Jager: Damn it.

[51:52] Lilli Cooper: You're gonna win.

[51:54] Kevin Jager: We just know who has cards, I think.

[51:57] Lilli Cooper: You'll have to start collecting and stuff.

[51:59] Kevin Jager: Um Lafayette.

[52:02] Lilli Cooper: David Diggs.

[52:03] Kevin Jager: Well, it had it didn't ding, but it's over.

[52:05] Lilli Cooper: And how fittingly that I got the light catcher's card.

[52:08] Kevin Jager: Oh, the next one.

[52:09] Lilli Cooper: Well, that was fun. I only got one.

[52:10] Kevin Jager: I got five.

[52:11] Lilli Cooper: Oh, this is cute, Rachel. You look gorgeous.

[52:15] Kevin Jager: I got five as well.

[52:17] Lilli Cooper: Wait, how recent is this thing?

[52:19] Kevin Jager: Autumn 2016.

[52:20] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, they have different seasons.

[52:22] Kevin Jager: To break the tie, I'm gonna give you each a card, and you're going to need to pitch me the perfect vehicle for this person.

[52:30] Lilli Cooper: Perfect.

[52:30] Kevin Jager: Wow, wow, wow. Are you actually thinking this, or is it sure?

[52:34] Lilli Cooper: You know.

[52:34] Kevin Jager: I'll give Lilli like we'll pretend she got five so she can play too.

[52:38] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[52:39] Kevin Jager: And I'll judge.

[52:39] Lilli Cooper: The perfect vehicle. Like a show that would make their career.

[52:44] Kevin Jager: Like the Corvette.

[52:47] Lilli Cooper: You know, I really think that she would be in a horse-drawn carriage. But with an albino host.

[52:54] Kevin Jager: Oh, that's like wearing the feathers.

[52:56] Lilli Cooper: The perfect date is April 25th.

[52:59] Kevin Jager: 23rd.

[53:00] Lilli Cooper: That's congeniality.

[53:01] Kevin Jager: Of course. What would be the perfect date?

[53:03] Lilli Cooper: Okay. I'd have to say April 23rd. Do you want to pick a number?

[53:07] Kevin Jager: Oh, you need a five.

[53:08] Lilli Cooper: Between one and three, I'm sorry.

[53:10] Kevin Jager: One, two, three.

[53:11] Lilli Cooper: Three.

[53:15] Kevin Jager: No, I want the perfect vehicle for this person.

[53:17] Lilli Cooper: Whoa, wow, what a great.

[53:19] Kevin Jager: Aww, I want um.

[53:20] Lilli Cooper: Like that can actually be put up. Like I like from a show that exists from past to present.

[53:26] Kevin Jager: You could surprise me and do something that you think an adaptation would work for. You could write a whole show right now for them.

[53:31] Lilli Cooper: Or if you think a perfect pre-existing show will work for them, then yeah, I want to see it.

[53:35] Kevin Jager: Well, Kevin Chamberlain is clearly gonna bring the animated movie Horton, Who's Here's a Who to be the sequel of Seussical.

[53:48] Lilli Cooper: Yeah.

[53:48] Kevin Jager: So the sequel of Seussical, um, Horton will be the narrator, a la, the cat in the hat.

[53:55] Lilli Cooper: Okay.

[53:56] Kevin Jager: And he will take you through some different Seuss thing.

[54:00] Lilli Cooper: Great.

[54:01] Kevin Jager: Um. Who you have?

[54:06] Lilli Cooper: I have uh David Diggs.

[54:08] Kevin Jager: Okay.

[54:09] Lilli Cooper: If they did a revival of The Boy from Oz.

[54:12] Kevin Jager: Oh with David Diggs.

[54:15] Lilli Cooper: If you take that idea and play it that way, I think you could bring on a couple new levels if you modernize that a little bit and like crazy it that way.

[54:24] Kevin Jager: Huh. Cool.

[54:26] Lilli Cooper: I believe that um Stephanie J. Block will be the perfect star of the musical adaptation of Death Becomes Her.

[54:42] Kevin Jager: Whoa.

[54:43] Lilli Cooper: Yes.

[54:44] Kevin Jager: Whoa!

[54:45] Lilli Cooper: Whoa, she dropped the card.

[54:48] Kevin Jager: You win.

[54:49] Lilli Cooper: That's a high response.

[54:51] Kevin Jager: Would you like the prize crane?

[54:54] Lilli Cooper: The oh hell yeah! I really think that Death Becomes Her would be a phenomenal musical.

[54:59] Kevin Jager: I have that happen in like Stephanie J. Block, the comedy, the beauty. She's perfect.

[55:02] Lilli Cooper: Oh wow. Who plays the older woman? Like the Isabella Rossellini part.

[55:09] Kevin Jager: Stand by of Broadway's done murder!

[55:16] Lilli Cooper: It's come full circle.

[55:17] Kevin Jager: So does Stephanie J. Block play the Meryl Streep part. Who plays the um Goldie Hawn part and who plays the Bruce Willis part?

[55:25] Lilli Cooper: Oh wow. Who plays the Goldie Hawn part next to Stephanie Block?

[55:34] Kevin Jager: Right. Do you do Meghan Hilty and have an Annalise rival?

[55:39] Lilli Cooper: Oh yeah. Annalise is a good choice.

[55:41] Kevin Jager: It's a good one. Brandon Victor Dixon?

[55:48] Lilli Cooper: He would be really good.

[55:50] Kevin Jager: Right? I mean.

[55:52] Lilli Cooper: Yeah. Oh, I love him. I love that.

[55:53] Kevin Jager: I'm thinking of like this sort of like comedy nuances of the body. But I think it almost seems to be like.

[55:56] Lilli Cooper: He's a dork.

[55:58] Kevin Jager: Like Brandon's not a dork.

[56:00] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, it needs to be a little bit more dorky.

[56:01] Kevin Jager: I think you're right. Danny Burstein would be excellent.

[56:04] Lilli Cooper: I think I don't know the movie well stone.

[56:07] Kevin Jager: That would be really interesting.

[56:09] Lilli Cooper: That would be really interesting. Danny's funny. I love that.

[56:12] Kevin Jager: Oh, I really want to see this musical now.

[56:14] Lilli Cooper: Wouldn't that be great? Start it. Kevin, you and me, writing Death Becomes Whoopsie's Death Becomes the Who Disco. No one steal this idea.

[56:24] Bryan Pullofski: Well, thank you so much for joining us.

[56:26] Lilli Cooper: Thanks for watching.

[56:27] Bryan Pullofski: Thanks for having me. This is awesome. Any parting words that you'd like to leave?

[56:32] Lilli Cooper: Um. Tip your bartenders.

[56:36] Kevin Jager: Yeah. Great.

[56:37] Lilli Cooper: No, this was awesome. I had such a fun time.

[56:39] Bryan Pullofski: Oh, thank you. I don't think so. Go to the show. Where can we see you right now?

[56:43] Lilli Cooper: I mean, this new play, Sundown Yellow Moon. It's really beautiful. There's music in it. I actually had to learn the guitar for this play.

[56:49] Bryan Pullofski: Oh, wow.

[56:49] Lilli Cooper: Which is cuckoo bananas. And it's so good. Actors are incredible. It's through Arsenova and the Women's Project, and it's at the Women's Project Theater, which is on 76th and Broadway.

[56:59] Bryan Pullofski: Great.

[57:01] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, and it's great. And we start previews February 28th, and we run through April 1st as of now with the potential uh extension. But um you can buy tickets on the Arsenova website or the Women's Project website.

[57:13] Bryan Pullofski: Fantastic. Well, thank you for joining us, and we end every episode with a quote.

[57:16] Lilli Cooper: Ah, great.

[57:17] Bryan Pullofski: Um, before we do that, you can follow Lilli at Lilli Cooper on Twitter and Lil Coobes.

[57:23] Lilli Cooper: Will Coobs with the Z Instagram and my website's LilliCooper.com.

[57:29] Bryan Pullofski: Um, check her out there. Um, and you and oh my gosh, my brain.

[57:34] Lilli Cooper: Hey Bryan.

[57:35] Bryan Pullofski: My brain is scrambled.

[57:38] Lilli Cooper: Scrambled eggs.

[57:39] Bryan Pullofski: Um, so the quote tonight is F is for friends who do things together. U is for you and me. N is for anywhere or anytime at all, down here in the deep blue sea.

[57:50] Lilli Cooper: Oh, I love that. I love SpongeBob so much.

[57:55] Bryan Pullofski: Anytime it's on TV, I will watch it.

[57:57] Lilli Cooper: Yeah. And I'll be like, it's it's research. I'm doing my job.

[58:01] Bryan Pullofski: I'm just like, uh, I'm ready, I'm ready.

[58:03] Lilli Cooper: Yeah, I don't use that reason. I'm like, I love the show.

[58:05] Bryan Pullofski: Yeah.

[58:06] Lilli Cooper: I'm 32 years old. The Castilla pizza is the pizza for you and me.

[58:12] Bryan Pullofski: Um so we end every episode with our favorite, favorite musical cadence.

[58:18] Lilli Cooper: Sherbrand.

[58:19] Bryan Pullofski: Favorite.

[58:23] All: Cheers, thanks for joining us.

[58:28] Lilli Cooper: The Questicra pizza. My best friend pizza for you and me.