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[0:15] Joe Rosko: Hey, what's going on? Welcome to Built for the Stage. This is Joe Rosko, founder and host of Built for the Stage, Broadway's number one fitness platform with clients in over 20 Broadway shows and stages across the globe, colleges throughout the United States, other regional theaters, the West End in London, some friends in Australia, and just really theater goers everywhere.

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[1:27] Joe Rosko: All right, let's move on to our special guest today on the podcast. Special guest as always. Not just singing, dancing, and acting, but a musician. Got to see their music videos on the gram as well, like true artist. Hashtag artist for real. You've seen this artist in Come From Away, The Book of Mormon, Scottsboro Boys, The Ritz. They're currently at Good Speed doing Christmas in Connecticut. Believe I'm slating that right. They can correct me if I'm wrong, but yeah, just can't wait for you to meet our guest. Please welcome to the podcast, Josh Breckenridge.

[2:21] Josh Breckenridge: Hey Joe, what's up?

[2:22] Joe Rosko: What's up, Josh? How you doing, man?

[2:24] Josh Breckenridge: I'm doing great. I got that right, correct?

[2:26] Joe Rosko: Christmas in Connecticut.

[2:28] Josh Breckenridge: All right, let's jump in there. What's this all about, Christmas?

[2:31] Josh Breckenridge: Yeah, let's do it, man. It's a movie from like 1945, so old school that they're reviving and turning into a brand new musical. You know, it's a world premiere that's happening here at Good Speed Opera House in Connecticut. I'm sitting amongst the fall foliage out here right now, and my allergies are killing me, but I'm doing all right. It's great, man. We just got done with our first week of rehearsals. Yeah, it's my day off, and it's a pleasure to be here hanging with you. We start performances November 18th, and we go into December, let's see, December 30th. We could extend to the 31st, but yeah, if you guys are in the area and a fan of some good original musical theater, come check out Christmas in Connecticut. It's feel good, it's family, it's holiday, it's funny, it's everything. I'm having a blast. I play a soldier, a World War II war hero, actually called Jefferson Jones, and yeah, man, it's been awesome.

[3:46] Joe Rosko: Nice. Are you by nature a holiday person, or is this kind of cringy for you to be doing it this early?

[3:55] Josh Breckenridge: No, I love it. I mean, I'm always of the mindset of like, don't rush me, don't rush my year when I see Christmas trees and like the home goods and whatnot, like before Halloween. I'm always a little turned off by that. But no, I love the holidays. I love this part of the year, Thanksgiving, Christmas is my jam. I do like Halloween as well, but yeah, we're knee deep in rehearsals now, so it's all I can think about is the show, and yeah, I'm not bothered by a little early holiday spirit.

[4:26] Joe Rosko: We were talking that Good Speed runs things in rep. Are there other shows rehearsing, or is it that you're rehearsing as they're performing, and then when they're done performing, you're about to start performing? How's it all work there?

[4:41] Josh Breckenridge: Yeah, so the way it works here is incredible. I've actually never—I've worked at a lot of regional theaters and I've never had an experience like this. I've heard friends over the years talk about how much they love Good Speed, and now I have my own taste of that amazing what Good Speed has to offer. It's been operating for eons, and they have like this village here that's set up and constructed for the actors to have not only a space to rehearse, but lodging and company car, and you know, and like you said, it's in rep that 42nd Street is playing right now, which I got a chance to see a few nights ago, and it is phenomenal. Just Randy Skinner tap dancing, you know, extravaganza. I'm not crazy familiar with 42nd Street.

I know some of the big songs, but apparently this is very revitalized and some changes and this and that. My friend Kate Baldwin, who is one of the leads, is extraordinary in it, as well as E. Clayton Cornelius and Max Vanessen. Like there's some incredible artists and people that I'm sure you've worked with and know of that are in this piece. So they do a great job of getting some extraordinary talent out here in the sticks. And our show's no exception. We got Ed Dixon, Matt Bogart, Audrey Cardwell, Rashidra Scott, myself, just a bunch of amazing, amazing artists. And the show's gonna be fun. I'm really excited to debut this show with this company, and I hope that from there we can keep growing, maybe head towards New York City. We'll see.

[6:33] Joe Rosko: Oh, so this is an out-of-town tryout, perhaps?

[6:33] Josh Breckenridge: Yeah, you know, in a way, it's a world premiere, and so you know, they don't deliver too much information this early on. We're just here to do our job and help tell the story, and then hopefully it's received well and then has legs and moves forward to the next incarnation. I know that Holiday Inn started here, and they I think they had a run at the Muni or something, or if I'm not wrong, and then also, and then they went to Broadway. So, hey, if I can get on this pony and ride this to New York, that would be amazing. Right now, I'm just living in the moment and enjoying my surroundings and having fun as a storyteller out here.

[7:15] Joe Rosko: Speaking of living in the moment, I was just in London and I saw Come From Away in the West End. I also had seen it on Broadway. Giving in the moment in that show is like you have no other choice from the way you jump in time and place and character to character. Talk a little bit about that. What role did you play or roles? What was that experience like with Come From Away?

[7:39] Josh Breckenridge: Yeah, man, you hit it on the nose. It's like you're shot out of a cannon with that show. It's a hundred minutes of just pure joy, cathartic, you know, love, emotional, everything. It's just a roller coaster. And you know, it sounds kind of crazy to be on stage nonstop, but it actually keeps the ball rolling. You know, there's so many, as you said, we wear so many hats in that show. Everyone on stage basically has to have a swing brain in nature because we're all wearing different hats and playing at least like three different roles. I played—I was a standby for most of my time at Come From Away. And recently in the last chunk of the show's run, I got bumped up. Our producers and creative team had the faith in me to move me up to playing Kevin J, Ali, and others.

So that role originally created by Caesar Samayoa, and I had a blast, man. That was of the five, so we cover five out of six roles of our sex in the show. So there's six standbys, three men, three women. We each cover five out of the six of the roles that we could cover, and out of those five, that was my all-time favorite. It felt the most diverse. You know, you're playing a Newfoundlander, an Egyptian Muslim man, and then also one half of a beautiful, you know, gay couple, this guy from New York named Kevin J. So it was—you run the gamut with that show no matter what track you play. And I always say that we really had huge responsibility to tell the story and tell it right. And you know, I was blessed to be able to be on that stage, you know, eight times a week telling that story, oftentimes in front of the very people that were portraying, you know, the plain people as they call them, or the Come From Aways and the local Newfoundlanders. So yeah, I had a blast, man. One of the best theatrical experiences of my life, sure.

[9:46] Joe Rosko: Cool. You said it really kept the ball rolling. Speaking about your music and your music album that I talked about in the intro for everyone listening, it's titled Monotony, and I feel like some of it was you had to have maybe wrote some of it during the pandemic. Is that true?

[10:07] Josh Breckenridge: I did indeed. Yep.

[10:08] Joe Rosko: Yeah, so this was a time when the ball wasn't rolling. So tell—we were just in a global standstill, if you will. Tell us a little bit about like that project, what birthed it, or yeah, the inspiration behind it. Tell us a little bit about the album and some of the songs.

[10:27] Josh Breckenridge: Sure, man, sure. Well, first of all, thank you for bringing it up. And I know you had a listen, and I really appreciate that. And you know, as an independent artist, it's hard to get your stuff out there, and I think I discovered that through that process. Yeah, when the shutdown happened in March of 2020, I was home like a lot of actors. And before I went home to California to see my family, I kind of just held before it at my place in New York with myself and my wheat and terrier. And you know, I was bored and I was like, hey, I can either fulfill my dreams of doing interior design, which is also a love of mine, or you know, get back to writing music. I wrote in high school a little bit in college and kind of fell by the wayside when theater jumped in the front seat.

[11:18] Josh Breckenridge: So um I took out my ukulele, started strumming, got some chords, got some lyrics going, and um, yeah, man, if within like two months, I had like 15 tracks done.

[11:30] Josh Breckenridge: For some reason, I think a lot of artists can probably agree with me that that time, and I guess we're still kind of in the pandemic, right? But that time, the bulk of the pandemic was um, you know, monotonous, but also inspirational is the time to take a break and see what else we could um access from ourselves, right?

[11:50] Josh Breckenridge: So for me, I was very motivated. A lot of the songs have to do with um moments in my life at that time, moments of recollection during the monotonous time of the shutdown. Um so I just had a lot. I just felt like I was fueled and ready to write. So I wrote, I posted a few um clips of me online, little tidbits of me playing you, just basic chords of some of the songs I wrote.

[12:14] Josh Breckenridge: And one of my friends, um, he's gonna remain nameless because he prefers to, but uh, he's a very um um uh loving and giving friend. And uh he was like, Hey, I like what you're doing, you know if you ever want to turn it into a full record or something just let me know I want to be a part of that and I was like uh okay thanks and you know fast forward to when I was ready to get a band and make this thing a record I was like I got 15 tracks I got it down to 12 um you know no one has the attention span to even listen to like eight tracks nowadays it seems um but uh but yeah I got the album figured out I gave this friend a call and we made magic together got in the studio um a lot of stuff through my uh producer James Frazy who's in Jersey um was remote uh I went out to California eventually went to H what's it called I went to uh a couple websites and um got all the equipment that I could and um was staying in my parents RV and created this record um almost fully remotely and uh eventually I went out to New York finished recording some of it with with him and with a live band and um yeah man that's that's how Monotony was born.

[13:32] Josh Breckenridge: I'm proud of it. I was able to make four music videos from that um folks can check that out on my YouTube channel. And I know we can talk about social media and all that a little later. But um yeah I'm really really happy about it. My first single was called Come to me basically was uh I was tired of waiting for um you know um a partner someone in life to you know say yes to my wanting to go out or get drinks or this or that and you know I said you know what the ball's in your court you can come to me and so stuff like that fueled the songwriting.

[14:07] Josh Breckenridge: I I've always been told to write what you know and uh and I did and and those you know 12 tracks came out of um that and Monotony was was born yeah so I had four singles come to me um not forgiving you home is where the art is and uh and you um and um yeah I'm just very I'm happy that that moment in time happened uh I've since you know kind of shifted back into the the flow of things that had come from away and now that that's closed Chris is Christmas in Connecticut and I'm hoping to continue down the road of of theater film and television but uh but yeah it was nice to fulfill that pipe dream and get that album out there.

[14:48] Joe Rosko: Yeah it sounded like there was a lot of like making it happen moments from the RV to have a producer remote touch on a few instances or recollections when you you learn something or you've felt like you're out in the middle of the ocean like what am I doing? Like how how do I figure how do I figure this out? Or do you or did uh go ahead.

[15:14] Josh Breckenridge: No no no sorry sorry sorry um yeah I uh I got a I I had to do it right man I have so many friends and probably we have so many you know mutual friends in the business that have records of their own or on you know labels or are doing their thing and I was like you know what I can't just put something shoddy out there I gotta do it right so I I enlisted or or hired a um a marketing manager I got a PR agent and and they you know I learned worlds about the business through them um just about how to manage my social media and post um in a timely way and and the algorithm and and just the technical stuff that I um am not too savvy uh about on the regular yeah um so yeah man just stuff about the business and the reality of getting our stuff out there you know I've I've seen a lot of people that have been listening to my music and gotten a lot of great uh feedback and and um um you know folks that have really plunged into the record and said that they have you know thank you for bringing about these you know your own personal stories because it made me dive into my own and and a lot of things that are universal about the record that folks were feeling during the pandemic you know um so uh I was blessed to and I'm continue to be blessed to get a lot of great um a lot of great love um for the record from friends and family and people out there but you know it's hard to get noticed you know I had no desire to I don't know be a a huge pop star but I just wanted to make this dream happen and if it took off then it took off and it and it took off in a great way but it's kind of simmered since and I'm fine with that.

[16:57] Josh Breckenridge: My stuff is out there in the universe and um I hope that it can continue to come back to me in a big way and and if I you know write another album um you know I gotta be inspired to do it. I'm not you know crazy uh uh excited to jump on a new record right now but when the you know when I moved to I'll I'll be ready for it. So I've learned a lot about myself and what I'm able to do as an artist both as a writer as a singer and um and producer.

[17:26] Joe Rosko: Yeah.

[17:27] Joe Rosko: If you were to do another would you do anything different the second time around.

[17:32] Josh Breckenridge: Yeah, I think I would see. I'm such a freaking nerd I I love my theater. I love, you know, I love mainstream music as well, but I'm uh I've been so inundated and focused on like a Hermit Crab on um or like you know with tunnel vision on the theater stuff that I I wish I would have spent more time listening a little more to what is out there now musically, which I do, but I think that my album has a little bit of a theater influence, which is great for my listeners because you know a lot of folks come from our industry, um, and there's definitely pop and um uh a lot of other influences in there.

[18:11] Josh Breckenridge: But uh I think maybe I would take a second and um instead of doing what comes from my heart and you know, definitely having shades of me and and my stories and the music, I think I would try to aim and see what happens if I aim more towards a slightly different genre and see what that does for me um uh track traction-wise, you know, see how I can uh turn some more heads by by utilizing my my ear and trying to create music that's a little more mainstream and radio, even more radio friendly and uh reflects kind of what's out there right now.

[18:49] Josh Breckenridge: So um yeah, I don't know if there's a right or wrong path because you see it so many times where people or groups will get recognized because they did their own thing from the jump, and then in the midst of it, there's the pressure to like go mainstream to get a larger audience, and then there's the reverse where they start mainstream, and then all of a sudden, once they get huge global popularity, they start to put out stuff that like they you know they wanted to do from the beginning.

[19:22] Joe Rosko: Absolutely, and you really don't know where stuff is gonna land.

[19:26] Josh Breckenridge: Um, and uh, but no, I'm happy with with the way everything turned out, and I hope it continues to like I said, grow and come back to me.

[19:34] Joe Rosko: And um, yeah, I'm hoping all right.

[19:37] Joe Rosko: So getting to know Josh a bit off of the stage or from out from behind the microphone. What what are you all about uh other than performing? Where what will we find Josh doing hobby wise or going out somewhere wise? Give us a little insight on who uh who Josh is.

[19:57] Josh Breckenridge: A little personal flair. Uh man, uh like I said, I'm a little bit of a of a nerd.

[20:02] Josh Breckenridge: Uh-huh.

[20:02] Josh Breckenridge: Um I'm uh I think I'm an extroverted introvert. Someone used that phrase one time, and I was like, that feels right. I love I am social, but you know, I love um being home and creating as well.

[20:15] Josh Breckenridge: Um love my TV shows, love my films, love my books.

[20:20] Joe Rosko: Um but uh what do we binge in currently on TV?

[20:24] Josh Breckenridge: What do we binge on?

[20:26] Joe Rosko: No, House of Dragons, come on.

[20:29] Josh Breckenridge: Uh what platform?

[20:31] Josh Breckenridge: What's that on?

[20:32] Josh Breckenridge: Uh it's on uh HBO. It's the you know um branch of um or prequel in a way to uh Game of Thrones.

[20:41] Joe Rosko: Oh, right, right, right.

[20:42] Joe Rosko: Okay.

[20:42] Josh Breckenridge: Yeah, yeah.

[20:43] Josh Breckenridge: And so they just had the season finale last night, and I watched it with some of my castmates, and my jaw was to the floor.

[20:50] Joe Rosko: Yeah, yeah, man.

[20:51] Josh Breckenridge: It was really good.

[20:52] Joe Rosko: And uh, I'm glad that I'm I'm glad they got it right because I didn't watch Game of Thrones, but I heard the last episode was like disappointing for some people.

[21:01] Josh Breckenridge: I know, I know, and I think that uh people are still waiting to get their money back or get like a new uh revitalized version of that that ending of Game of Thrones proper.

[21:12] Josh Breckenridge: But um, but yeah, this is uh this is a really cool uh season as well and they've set it up to continue and I'm seeing all the memes and crap online now and spoilers out there from last night so um yeah it's fun to have go-tos like that and stuff to watch with friends I also started watching Abbott Elementary which everyone is obsessed with and I love it that's on HBO Max as well okay um much different tone very light and um kind of the office vibes um in the way it's directed and shot and um and I love that too and you know as an actor it's uh you know I I have a lot of hobbies but they kind of a lot of them come back to what I do right it's always the whether it's seeing theater or film or TV I can't help but have a part of my my homework or business as an actor you know reflected in that or come up so yeah um uh so yeah man I like doing that I like being in nature um I'm a huge gym nut which yeah I was just that was my next question was all right we're doing some working out over there so what do you like to do uh guys what's your what's your uh your choice um well shoot man I've always been wanting to jump on your program because everybody and their mom loves it and and I see the results and it looks awesome so um I'll send you some I'll send you some programming after we get off the call here.

[22:42] Josh Breckenridge: Please man please and you know it's I'm like I said I'm in Connecticut. I'm away from my home and my gym so um a lot of whatever I have to do is is body weight stuff and and um uh uh remote stuff in my own place. Um but luckily they they give us access to uh an anytime fitness out here. So uh we have a company car, we drive there, it suffices, it has everything I need. And um luckily I have an awesome trainer at um Temple Gym, Mario uh Cassis, who is this Lebanese guy who is freaking incredible and has gotten me shredded for more than a few roles now. Um, and so he set me up with a program and nutrition and all that stuff to just stay cool, um, stay cut and stay right. I've kind of done myself in in that a lot of roles that I've done have been like the leading man, you know, eye candy track, or the you gotta have some some arms, or it's mentioned that he has, you know, uh he's built, or you know, I gotta be shirtless on stage, and that wasn't Come From Away, but um that has been some shows in the past, and um, and even in Christmas in Connecticut, I'm this um this soldier who uh takes off a shirt at one moment and is in a tank top, and it's uh his arms are commented on uh by the leading lady, and so there's there's you know, I've kind of set myself up to be that guy sometimes uh with casting, which I'm okay with, but it just requires me to stay fit and keep that brand up.

And uh, you know, my my thirst traps on Instagram don't help. So yeah. Uh it's a whole it's a whole can of worms out there, and like I definitely with Built for the Stage like to focus on like the actors being athletes thing, and like the ability to be durable and and be your best performer eight times a week and and just be able to do the job regardless of aesthetic. But sometimes like if they're gonna write the script and say the things they're gonna say, then some yeah you gotta you gotta do what you gotta do, you know.

[24:57] Joe Rosko: Of course.

[24:58] Josh Breckenridge: And don't get me wrong, I've done a slew of roles that are there's no physical um, you know, specificities. There's there's nothing that's specific about um the physical type, uh, but but yeah, as a young-ish uh male in the you know, baritone, um it I tend to get those leading men tracks that you know there's some kind of love interest, there's gotta be some kind of attraction there, and they just go hand in hand in hand. And you know, I'm not mad about it uh on one hand because it keeps me healthy and fit and you know, living day to day in a in a in a healthy way. So for sure.

[25:36] Joe Rosko: Yeah.

[25:37] Josh Breckenridge: All right. So as you go along in your uh career here, we'll jump into something like more quote unquote serious. I like to uh use this for helping people coming up in the industry or that might be in a a dry spot right now in their career. What's something you look back on where you were you know distraught, you were going through some tough times, and you wish like yourself now could go back and be like, hey, listen, Josh, here's my advice on how you should approach this or what you should do. Where were there any moments or like what any advice that you would give people in either a dry spot or just starting out trying to make waves?

[26:20] Josh Breckenridge: Um Yeah yeah yeah sure. Um I would say like don't don't take things too seriously. Um the business is very um cutthroat and stressful and um and you you know you do have to represent yourself well but I find that uh more times than not I over stress myself out about um doing my job and doing it well and and and often in this you know just like we were talking about keep going back to Christmas in Connecticut but these gigs where it's like you're you feel like you're always having to audition um no matter what and you want to stay the course and stay with something until you know the the light at the end of the tunnel a Broadway original role or or something or or even you know film and TV and um and I think I have swindled myself out of you know a couple of opportunities just because I've I've gotten in my head too much and and overanalyzed and gotten too stressed about the end result instead of living in the moment and as we live in the moment as actors we're not only um, you know, we're in the stakes we're in the storytelling not only is that beneficial for the audience whether it's TV film or theater because you're honestly living your truth up there but it also removes the um the mental um stresses that we can we can throw on ourselves in these high profile high um stressful very stressful situations if that makes sense um so it's it's win-win to kind of just plug plug yourself in terms of acting into whatever role you're portraying and whether it's vocally you're stressed out about something or storytelling-wise or or movement-wise, you know, just trust yourself, trust your guts, live in the moment, tell the truth.

[28:10] Josh Breckenridge: And a lot of times that'll alleviate a lot of that negative energy and stress um that causes blockage for us as performers. Um I I've kind of like wound myself into knots in the past in uh certain situations, just stressing myself out unnecessarily. And part of that comes with age, right? [28:31] Like just out of school, early 20s. Yeah, you can say that to someone and they're not gonna get it until they live it themselves, right? But um now in my mature state, um, I think I've I've lived and seen enough examples of where that stress gets you versus where that release and confidence and just you know zen mindset gets you, and um and the the latter is is the way to go, in my opinion.

[29:00] Joe Rosko: Yeah, cool.

[29:02] Josh Breckenridge: Okay, we'll end it with a couple of uh lighter, sillier questions. Again, getting to know you because we just want to highlight you as uh a person to our audience out there. Yeah, you're listening to your playlist, what song is always popping up? What are you walking down the streets to or in your car or right before rehearsal? What's what's one of your go-to songs right now?

[29:27] Josh Breckenridge: Um, you know, the whole Renaissance album is you know, the thing right now, of course, and going to the gym and listening to that from top to bottom is you know is kind of been my routine for a little bit, like like a lot of people. But you know what? I don't know if I'm gonna get flack for this, but uh Charlie Puth, is that how you pronounce his name? You don't know him, okay. He um uh he has an album that's out. Um there's a song Charlie Be Quiet on it. There's um a lot of like just like just fun catchy uh pop tunes that are fun to work out to that give me energy, that give me drive, and it's simple stuff. It's it's love story, you know, storytelling, and um, but very catchy, catchy tunes, and sh and short, you know what's interesting.

I brought up attention spans before, and I feel like we as a people like artisan spans are getting shorter and shorter, myself included. And um, you know, most of the songs on his album are like two minutes long, two fifteen. Um, I think his whole album um what's it called? Uh I think it's a self-titled album that came out in in this year. Um everything is like no more than two and a half minutes, and his whole album, I think is like 33 minutes, and you know, that's something that I can listen to in a workout and and you know have fun with. So so Charlie's been great, and and you know, of course, Beyonce. I know I'm kind of stereotypical. No right now, but um but it's when it's good, it's good.

[31:11] Joe Rosko: Yeah, it's a vibe.

[31:12] Josh Breckenridge: Yeah, who doesn't love living in a good vibe? All right, one exercise. If you could only do one exercise for the rest of your life, what would that exercise be?

[31:24] Josh Breckenridge: Oh man. Oh god. I'd have to say I'd have to say crunches.

[31:32] Joe Rosko: Crunches, okay.

[31:34] Josh Breckenridge: Uh-huh. Okay, cool. All right, crunches. All right, and then the opposite. If you could get rid of legs, legs, legs. Just anything, anything, legs, forget legs.

[31:46] Josh Breckenridge: I mean, specifically quads. Any squatting. I'm sure I'm sure your trainer Mario has something to say about that.

[31:55] Joe Rosko: He will. He'll say shut up and do the work.

[31:58] Josh Breckenridge: Hey. But yeah. That's how we're that's how we're gonna end this episode. Shut up and do the work. I love you, man. Hey, sometimes I was just talking to uh a client today. Like, it's not about magic sauce. It's not about the secret formula. It's literally sometimes just doing the work that most aren't willing to do. That's that's what makes you special.

[32:23] Joe Rosko: Absolutely, man. Agree. Thanks so much for being on the podcast. Everyone listening. If you're watching on YouTube, you'll see it already. Uh Josh is uh website is J-Breckenridge.com. You can also check Josh out on the gram at J. Breckenridge.music. But again, we'll make that super easy for you. It'll be in the description of this episode. Make sure to give him a follow. Josh, thanks so much.

[32:51] Josh Breckenridge: Thank you so much for having me, Joe. Take care, man.

[32:53] Joe Rosko: Okay, appreciate you. All right, everyone. Josh Breckenridge. Uh another great chat. Wishing Josh and his cast, uh Christmas in Connecticut at good speed. All the best. Thanks again for uh tuning in, being a supporter of Built for the Stage. Check us out at BuiltfortheStage.com or at Built for the Stage to try that seven-day free trial uh with yours truly. We'll be chatting one-on-one, coach client relationship. And that's all I got for you. Actors or athletes, train like one. Later.