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[0:15] Joe Rosko: Hey, what's going on? Welcome to Built for the Stage Podcast. This is Joe Rosko, founder and host of Built for the Stage, Broadway's number one fitness platform with clients in over 20 Broadway shows and other stages around the country, the globe, really. We train actors on an interactive fitness app to marry a pursuit in theater with a journey in fitness. So if you're looking to do that, we're the people for you. Built for the Stage.com. Check us out for a free trial and we'll be on our way. All right, special guest today. Let's get on to it. Just got back from London about three-ish weeks ago. And I was chatting with some performers over there. We were scheduling photo shoots, doing all the things, and I ran across a particular person that I was very lucky to run across.

They're the kind of person that's just like good people, quote unquote good people, kind, open to help, just very receptive to my visit there and really just put me at ease when being in a place I'd never been to. So our guest formerly was in the cast of Come From Away. You've seen them if you're in London or the UK, you've seen them on the tele. Maybe you've seen them in the US, who knows? But we're gonna chat all things Ricardo Castro. Please welcome Ricardo.

[1:45] Ricardo Castro: Hey Joe, yes. Hi.

[1:48] Joe Rosko: Oh my gosh, what an introduction. I was like, who is this person he's talking about?

[1:53] Ricardo Castro: I met every word of it. Truly, truly. Like, thank you, thank you.

[2:00] Ricardo Castro: When I help, sometimes in the fitness industry, I help other coaches. And a lot of times they want to have everything figured out and they want everything to be like all ducks in a row before really jumping into something. And a lot of the times I encourage them to just jump, have as much in order as you can, but things will line up. And one of those things sometimes is the people you come in contact with. And that was you for me, just to keep flattering you. But that really, you know, because you talk with people and they might say, like, yeah, I'm down for it, and like that's it. Or you might talk with people and like they cold shoulder you and nothing, but then you were just so willing to help and just be a friend. So I appreciated that. Um, but anyways, welcome to the podcast.

[2:54] Ricardo Castro: Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I mean, um, you just came to London like out of nowhere. So I really admired that. I mean, to grow your business and to do, you know, obviously, whatever you do with your work and stuff. And I thought that was pretty brave. So I thought if I can help someone, yeah, first timer. It all comes back around, right? It all comes back around. One time you're gonna be in some foreign land to you, and someone else is gonna help you. It's gonna come back around.

[3:22] Joe Rosko: Literally, yeah, I hope so. What part of London or the UK are you calling in from right now?

[3:30] Ricardo Castro: Um, I am calling from Wapping in London. Wapping is like a really cute little area near Tower Bridge. Which people tourists call it London Bridge, but it is called Tower Bridge, and people get off at London Bridge station looking for it, and it's just not there. It's like a good 20 minutes walk from there. But yeah, I'm just calling from that area.

[3:52] Joe Rosko: It's hilarious you bring that up because that's exactly what happened to me. Like over in the States, when you're a kid, you hear the song London Bridges Falling Down. So I don't know. I was actually another fun fact. My worst grade ever in school, elementary, middle school, high school, college, all my whole quote unquote educational career was in European history, which is hilarious. Um and uh yeah, I just wasn't good at like I don't know, geographical things or had a particular liking to them. But anyways, in the UK, again, I went to the London Bridge to exit for like the tube, and same same thing as you're saying, like when you exit the tunnel, you're like pretty much on the bridge, like the London Bridge. And you're thinking, this isn't it, and then you're looking across the water at the Tower Bridge, and you're like, oh, that's the London Bridge.

[4:52] Ricardo Castro: That's our one, yeah. And then you walk off the London Bridge and turn around and look at it, and it says right on it, London Bridge, and you're like, that's it, that's the London Bridge. So yeah, I walked about 15-20 minutes to see the Tower Bridge, which is just beautiful.

[5:07] Ricardo Castro: It is really beautiful. Um, but I think I did exactly the same thing that you did. So that's why I mentioned it, yeah, definitely off at London Bridge looking for London Bridge, but yeah so you said Wapping?

[5:21] Joe Rosko: Mm-hmm.

[5:21] Ricardo Castro: Okay, Wapping. All right, and where are you originally from?

[5:25] Ricardo Castro: Uh Sao Paulo in Brazil.

[5:27] Joe Rosko: Yeah. Originally. And how much do you miss it? Do you ever miss São Paulo?

[5:33] Ricardo Castro: I miss Sao Paulo. It's just like it's a different lifestyle. It's a different everything's different culturally, like gastronomy, everything is just a vibe to be there. But I don't know what work would be like there. I'd never lived there. You know, we only visited, so maybe I just romanticize being back in Brazil, but I do. Is Sao Paulo like the biggest theater scene as far as a city in Brazil? It's not Rio, right? It's is it Sao Paulo or is there another place?

[6:05] Ricardo Castro: It's between Rio and Sao Paulo. I'd say for theater, it's Sao Paulo. Rio is where like the TV hub is really.

[6:12] Joe Rosko: Got it. Um a lot of things are shot in Sao Paulo, but because of the setting of the city. But really, if you're a TV actor, you're gonna live in Rio in Brazil.

[6:22] Joe Rosko: Got it. All right, so at what point in your life did you venture over to the UK?

[6:28] Ricardo Castro: I moved here when I was 17. I just I finished school and I came. Like but I was living in Portugal before that. You know your European history. I was living in Lisbon. That's where I grew up. Um, and then I just came here to study music. Um, it was kind of a gap year. I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. So theater and acting and like musical theater was never really the plan. I just never considered it. Like I just came to do some singing, I studied popular music, and then somehow ended up here, yeah, on this podcast.

[7:05] Joe Rosko: When when like what lined up that led you to musical theater, theater eventually, like you pursued popular music, but what was that kind of open door that led you to this?

[7:19] Ricardo Castro: Uh so that was my teacher. I think um there's such a strong musical theater tradition in the UK. Whereas where I grew up, if you see a musical or a show, you kind of see them as like the circus, like you don't know where they came from, you don't know where they're going, but they're just in town. Yeah, you know, so my teacher was musical theater, basically. That's what she did. So when she met me and kind of saw my persona, she's like, you need to go to London, like you need to get involved. And I was like, what's this? What's this? Um, but eventually I did. Like a couple of years later, I just started coming to open auditions in London to see what was it, what was there. And um, I got a job, I got a European tour with a show.

And soon I realized I was like, okay, I'm blagging my way through this industry, but I really do need to up my game in certain areas, so dance and acting, really, because I could sing. Uh so that's what I did. When I moved back to London after the tour, I got an agent, I was being seen for some stuff, which was really nice, and I was actually working, uh, but I was just hustling, like I was at Pineapple Studios like four or five times a week. Um, I was taking workshops, I was doing the hustle, and then better jobs started coming along, and um eventually I trained in acting a bit whilst working already, and it kind of just like evolved, like snowballed a bit into just kind of a career in acting, which is I don't know, I'm still surprised that I do what I do. I feel like I don't know, I didn't follow the normal path that most people do in London, but I think that's okay.

[8:53] Joe Rosko: Yeah, of course. You put the work in, and that was the most important part, and that's why you're here.

[8:58] Ricardo Castro: Absolutely. How about like the TV film stuff? When did that come about as well? Right now you're in a show Chelsea Detective or correct.

[9:07] Ricardo Castro: That's like, oh how does he know? But it's on my Instagram. Um yeah, so Chelsea Detective, I filmed that just before I went back into Come From Away. Uh, it's a show on the BBC here. So it's my first BBC job. Um, and it was really cool. It was very specific role. A Brazilian who lives in the UK. So, like the accent is specific to it's not really a British accent, it would be like a Brazilian British, you know, it was very specific. And um, the character is quite similar to me as a person. I mean, he was a criminal, but that's not what I mean.

[9:43] Joe Rosko: Yeah, he's just are you sure? Are you sure? Huh? What is what are you doing to you need to admit something here in front of everyone on this?

[9:55] Ricardo Castro: Yeah, no, no, okay. I'm good, I'm good. Um, so that was it, yeah. And uh just before the theaters opened, that was when I did I think the bulk of my TV bits because honestly, there was nothing else, I didn't have a choice. Um, I started with like modeling and commercials. I think from the moment I moved to London, I just wanted to get involved with stuff like that. So when actual TV roles started coming up, I realized that actually I am comfortable in it on set with cameras, with you know, the close-ups and stuff because I've always kind of been doing this in a slightly different format. Um, but when the opportunities came, I just took them.

[10:35] Joe Rosko: Yeah. So I've got to do uh like a few shows. Uh, and then we went back to Come From Away, like after the pandemic, and that kind of took all of my time.

[10:43] Ricardo Castro: Yeah.

[10:44] Joe Rosko: And now now that you're out of the show, do you keep focusing your attention and energy towards the stage, or do you still go in for things for TV or film, like audition-wise?

[10:59] Ricardo Castro: Uh I guess it's up to what your agent is calling you in for.

[11:04] Ricardo Castro: Literally, yeah. Um, I'm not too picky. I love just performing in general in whichever platform that is. I guess that there's a gift in not being in a show because you are available for work, and everything is so last minute in terms of TV and stuff and um things like that. Uh, that it has been really nice to then finally have some breathing time and do like the bits involved, some shoots here, even if it's just photographic or a commercial, it's nice to have that availability once you're not in the grind of eight shows a week. So um finding a happy medium, I think is where we want to be, you know. But for now, uh whatever, yeah.

[11:45] Joe Rosko: All right, so for people that are listening that aren't in a show and they're in between like you, what has been your daily or weekly like rituals and practices to feel as though you're still on a forward trajectory of self-betterment or career betterment, things like that.

[12:05] Ricardo Castro: Um, I think rest is really important. Like I had to take the time to do absolutely nothing, you know, and just cook the dinners and have the cute moments with the family and with friends that I've been missing out on for like a year, isn't it? I think, and once I've felt like I've done all of that, it's important for me, actually. Funnily enough. Uh, this is in regards to fitness, but because the show is quite demanding, and I was also working out throughout the process. I tried to maintain some sort of workout program, even if I'm not going as much because you know I had a gym next to the theater to feel like I have I still have goals in terms of my physique and my physicality. I don't want to just sit down and do nothing, just waiting for another job to appear.

You know, uh so I think that was really really important for my mental health. Um, and then I've already been rehearsing for something else, so I didn't really have much of a breathe, much breathing space. Now I'm just learning lines again, and I'm like, is your rehearsal for the show or whatever you're in? Is it hush hush or what what's what are you doing?

[13:19] Ricardo Castro: It's not hush hush. Um Broadway World USA has announced it now, so it's not hush hush. Um I'm doing a show called Wuthering Heights. Um that was at the National Theater here and it toured the UK. Um, and now it's going to America. It's going to it's in New York at the moment at the St. Anne's Warehouse or something. Not that I like I know New York.

[13:42] Joe Rosko: Yeah.

[13:43] Ricardo Castro: Um, I think that's in Brooklyn question.

[13:46] Joe Rosko: Okay.

[13:46] Ricardo Castro: Um, and then it's going to San Francisco, LA, Chicago, New Jersey.

[13:53] Joe Rosko: And you're you're going with the show, or you're I'm going.

[13:56] Ricardo Castro: I'm going, baby. I'm in America in a week and a half.

[13:59] Joe Rosko: Wait. Did I know this? I think I told you I'll be in America at some point, but I I wasn't specific.

[14:05] Ricardo Castro: I didn't specific.

[14:05] Joe Rosko: Yeah, okay. I thought I probably interpreted it as like you're just coming for a visit or something.

[14:10] Ricardo Castro: No, no, I'm there for a long time.

[14:13] Joe Rosko: Yeah. A long time. Wait, so the show Watering, say it again.

[14:20] Ricardo Castro: Wuthering Heights.

[14:21] Joe Rosko: Wuthering Heights?

[14:23] Ricardo Castro: No, Wuthering.

[14:24] Joe Rosko: So Withering.

[14:25] Ricardo Castro: Should I use the chat?

[14:27] Joe Rosko: Yeah. What is this word? I'm gonna expose my ignorance here. What's so Wuthering? Is this a place?

[14:40] Ricardo Castro: The name of basically a house, like a plot of land in the Yorkshire Moors up north in England, right? So the main characters end up living in Wuthering Heights. Um, and then yeah, it's like it's it's hundreds and hundreds of years ago and stuff. So they're fighting over plots of land, and there's like a huge love story. Uh and it's is it it's actually quite beautiful, yeah. Wuthering Heights. What you may not hear.

[15:06] Joe Rosko: All right, so tell wait, tell us a little bit more about the show because I want to make sure, since a lot of Americans are gonna be listening to this episode that if they're around, they can come see it.

[15:16] Ricardo Castro: Yeah, well, so the show bases around the the story uh the life of Heathcliff, the one of the main characters and Catherine. Um and Heathcliff is an immigrant child who was found at the Liverpool docks by some by Mr. Earnshaw, and he takes him in, right, to his family. So it's it's a very old book written by Emily Bronte, but it's quite relevant at the moment because it's about immigration, it's about not being accepted, about racism. Um, and uh this the little girl in the family kind of falls in love with him from the get-go, and the boy hates him from the get-go. So he's beaten. Uh, eventually, when the boy takes over the family plot of land in Wuthering Heights, he makes him work for his keep.

So it's very old school. So he lives outside with the animals, has to work, he's not allowed in the house. Meanwhile, Catherine is like really in love with him. Eventually, oh, it's it's insane. Eventually, they never really get together. She has she marries someone else with money, he goes crazy, she dies, everyone dies, like in the story. Um, she dies and becomes a ghost for act two, right? And she haunts him through his whole entire life until he goes and meets with her at the end.

[16:33] Joe Rosko: Who wrote this? Shakespeare? Who wrote that? Who wrote it?

[16:36] Ricardo Castro: It's very it's yeah, it's it's very heightened speech, it's not it's not Shakespeare. So it was um Emily Bronte who who wrote the book. It's like a classic, like a British classic.

[16:45] Joe Rosko: Okay, all right, and the cities again that you'll be in.

[16:48] Ricardo Castro: So uh San Francisco, okay, uh, followed by LA, which I can't wait. Uh, and then we're in Chicago at the Shakespeare Theater there, and then we are in New Jersey for a minute.

[17:01] Joe Rosko: All right, so Jersey or Chicago, you have to get me the dates on that. I gotta gotta pop over.

[17:07] Ricardo Castro: Come, okay, okay, okay. That sounds amazing.

[17:09] Joe Rosko: No smoke for sure.

[17:10] Ricardo Castro: For real. I'm gonna I'll be there.

[17:12] Joe Rosko: You better be there.

[17:13] Ricardo Castro: I know you'll be there, I know. You just know you let me know.

[17:15] Joe Rosko: Okay, very exciting. Okay, so you're right back into it. How do you uh you were talking about memorizing lines? I haven't talked to anyone about this in a long time. What is your uh specific practice on how you specifically like to memorize or rehearse your lines?

[17:35] Ricardo Castro: Oh, I just don't like to like um what I'm doing at the moment is because there's so much text in this because it's less of a musical. There's just so much like to learn. I'm just recording the other person on a voice note and then my phone back and forth, back and forth.

[17:55] Joe Rosko: Nice. Okay.

[17:56] Ricardo Castro: Yeah. I used to go scene by scene. I'd read the script like over and over again for a while, but then I'd go scene by a scene and I'd do like line one, and then I'd do line one and two. Then I'd memorize three and make sure I could do line one, two, and three. So I I did that this morning, yeah. All of a sudden, auditions as well. And I'm like, ah, like I need to learn more stuff. So for that, I'm doing the one, two, three thing that you've just said. And if you can do all of it, I'm like, okay, good, good.

[18:27] Joe Rosko: How how's it been with self-tapes and all of that? Where uh learning material last minute is probably even more present than it was in the past because of just like the immediacy of you know being required to submit something.

[18:45] Ricardo Castro: Yeah, how do you not become overwhelmed with that, or do you just you can't, you just overwhelmed?

[18:52] Joe Rosko: Um that's a that's a really good question. I've spent many years overwhelmed, I think. Like I always I'm a bit of a I have been a bit of a perfectionist, and I'm trying to walk away from that because I don't think that's helpful for my mental health. Um, so I and I say this and I don't always achieve it, but I try to work from a place of rest, you know, no overworking anymore, no staying up late. I just don't believe that that's helpful, you know. You know, so even for this audition for this specific job, I barely had any time, and I was a standby and come from away, and I just happened to be on every night, so I had no time in the evenings, barely any time in the day. And I was uh I only saw my diary.

I thought I only have one hour today. So that hour I work hard and then I switch off. And I found it that somehow the text actually stays in your brain more when you're not panicking and when you a lot specific times for it rather than okay. The audition's coming in a week. I'm gonna spend every waking moment like trying to learn something. That's unhelpful now. And um, I just never want to be in that place anymore.

[19:54] Joe Rosko: Yeah, I I agree because you're like you're fully present now, you're fully present.

[19:59] Ricardo Castro: Correct, yeah, while trying to, but yeah. You're more fully present, you're you're more present than if you were to be uh freaking out about it and forcing things as opposed to just letting the universe come to you and what it's allowing you to be able to put forth.

[20:16] Joe Rosko: Absolutely. See, thank you. But again, like you were saying, a lot easier said than done.

[20:23] Ricardo Castro: Correct, yeah. But I think an awareness of the fact that you struggle with something is is is a start, isn't it? So yes, being uh aware is the first step. If you're not aware of it, if you're ignorant to it, you can't address it because you don't even realize it's happening.

[20:40] Joe Rosko: Exactly.

[20:41] Ricardo Castro: Yeah, absolutely. All right, let's be less serious and let's do something called the BFTS hot seat. If I had some type of like music, I'd be playing.

[20:50] Joe Rosko: Let's see if you can.

[20:54] Ricardo Castro: Let's see.

[20:55] Joe Rosko: There we go. You hear it?

[20:57] Ricardo Castro: Oh, it's vibes.

[21:02] Joe Rosko: BFTS hot seat. Woo!

[21:05] Ricardo Castro: Fostered by uh Ricardo's hair product looking so luscious today. You can get it at Ricardo's hairproduct.com.

[21:16] Joe Rosko: All right, the hot seat. How's that?

[21:18] Ricardo Castro: That was that was pretty fun, right?

[21:20] Joe Rosko: That was really good, but now I'm nervous because you did not warn me about hot scenes. I'm not good at these games.

[21:24] Ricardo Castro: You should be so nervous.

[21:26] Joe Rosko: All right, ready? You're your is it do you guys call it telly or do you call it television? What do you what do you call your TV over there?

[21:33] Ricardo Castro: British people say telly. Um TV, I guess.

[21:36] Joe Rosko: All right, all right. You're walking in a room and on the TV is a particular movie. What is that movie that would always stop you? And you're like, I gotta watch it. No matter how many times you've seen it, you're gonna watch it. You might have a handful, but like one of them that pops in your mind.

[21:52] Ricardo Castro: Uh American Psycho with Christian Bale.

[21:56] Joe Rosko: Yeah. Oh good. Amazing.

[21:58] Ricardo Castro: Okay, see you're nailing it already. You're nailing it.

[22:00] Joe Rosko: Okay. Uh we get into uh Ricardo's car, or we break into your iPhone and get to your playlist. What song are we always gonna be hearing on your playlist?

[22:15] Ricardo Castro: Oh no. Uh you're probably gonna be listening to Anita.

[22:23] Joe Rosko: Do you know Anita?

[22:24] Ricardo Castro: Anita. Brazilian, she's a Brazilian pop star.

[22:27] Joe Rosko: That's just like became famous in America.

[22:30] Ricardo Castro: Yes, wait. I mean, with my background in relationships with a Brazilian, I shouldn't know this.

[22:38] Ricardo Castro: Uh Anita, if you're listening to this, drop in the comments if you know Anita. It's with two T's, A-N-I-T-T-A.

[22:45] Joe Rosko: You know what? I don't know. I think it's just one T.

[22:48] Ricardo Castro: Is that her? Is this a new T?

[22:49] Joe Rosko: Yeah?

[22:50] Ricardo Castro: Oh, double T.

[22:51] Joe Rosko: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[22:52] Ricardo Castro: Okay, I don't know. It's like her biggest like worldwide track.

[22:52] Joe Rosko: All right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, after this, I'm gonna be pumping it through my apartment here.

[22:59] Ricardo Castro: We'll we'll break out to Anita.

[23:02] Joe Rosko: All right. Uh question three. You are walking down the streets, or you have your phone app for like delivery food. What is like a go-to of yours that always makes the vibe right? This does not have to be healthy because it has some fitness uh correlation here. Anyway, me, I'd probably say just to let you relax a bit, I'd probably say a blueberry cake donut. That's what I would go for.

[23:29] Ricardo Castro: Okay. Well, it's gonna be chicken selects for McDonald's.

[23:36] Joe Rosko: No. Chicken select, is that a sandwich?

[23:40] Ricardo Castro: No, they're like chicken strips for McDonald's.

[23:43] Joe Rosko: Is this a UK thing?

[23:44] Ricardo Castro: This is a UK thing, yeah.

[23:46] Joe Rosko: Also, so here's here's some secrets.

[23:50] Ricardo Castro: Yeah, yeah. I was a vegetarian for five years. I guess was I, I don't know. But I was, but my one temptation and the one thing that I allowed myself to have were the chicken selects, like every now and then.

[24:02] Joe Rosko: Oh my goodness.

[24:03] Ricardo Castro: It was like my lifeline.

[24:05] Joe Rosko: I think it's funny when you go from country to country, and if you end up in a McDonald's or some type of fast food to see how there's slight variations in the menu.

[24:14] Ricardo Castro: Exactly. I I think that's one thing they actually do very well. You know, what do you think? In Brazil, do they have like uh fried picanha with your French fries? Like, what do you think?

[24:24] Ricardo Castro: They did have a pequena burger, they definitely had that.

[24:29] Joe Rosko: I'm not surprised though. Now in Portugal, do you get espresso's, like you have everything's coffee shop based?

[24:35] Ricardo Castro: Um in Portugal, that's very much the culture.

[24:38] Joe Rosko: You know what? that's that's funny. When I went to Italy, the McDonald's had like extremely nice espresso machines. I couldn't believe it.

[24:46] Ricardo Castro: Exactly. Yeah, because it's a thing. Like anywhere you go, you need to have that. So McDonald's, they know they know what they're doing.

[24:52] Joe Rosko: Yeah. Actually, come to think of it, we'd go to like a gas station and it would have like a high-end espresso machine in Italy.

[25:00] Ricardo Castro: Crazy.

[25:01] Joe Rosko: Yeah, not a surprise, yeah. All right, stop trying to divert from this hot seat.

[25:05] Ricardo Castro: Okay, all right. If you were to be reincarnated and come back to the earth as an animal, which animal would you be?

[25:14] Ricardo Castro: Um, I think I would be a peacock.

[25:18] Joe Rosko: Oh, tell us why, besides the amazing feathers and just the glamorous side to it, or is that the only side to it?

[25:24] Ricardo Castro: That's it. I want to want people to queue up to come and see me, and then I'm just gonna stroll out, feathers out, everyone. Oh my god, oh my god, videos, videos, pictures, and then I go back and I go to sleep or lay an egg or something. I don't know. What else did you do?

[25:40] Joe Rosko: I've asked this question uh a couple of times, and that might be my favorite answer. Loving it, loving it.

[25:45] Joe Rosko: Okay, last one uh for the hot seat. If no career mattered, no person or like uh other influence mattered, where would you live in the world? What city would you want to live in?

[26:02] Ricardo Castro: Oh, that's a really good question. That's very difficult. Um top three.

[26:08] Joe Rosko: Top three, okay.

[26:09] Ricardo Castro: Uh Philippines.

[26:10] Joe Rosko: Okay.

[26:11] Ricardo Castro: Uh I live in an art in an island in the Philippines called Chargal, which is really cool. There's no plastic straws. There's like the whole island is like plastic free. You can surf and and it's just hot and good food.

[26:23] Joe Rosko: Yeah.

[26:24] Ricardo Castro: Um, I would probably live in uh by the beach in Brazil as well, but probably the south, not Rio or São Paulo or anything like that.

[26:32] Joe Rosko: Yeah.

[26:33] Ricardo Castro: Um, or up north, higher high up north. Uh, alternatively, I'm gonna live in a like a vineyard in Italy.

[26:39] Joe Rosko: And right, just live. Speaking of that like relaxed life you were talking about. Just like get up, tend to the grape, the the vines of the vineyard, you know.

[26:50] Ricardo Castro: Absolutely. That's that's make some good wine, drink some some wine with cheese and bread, and just live your best life, you know.

[26:58] Joe Rosko: 100%. That's literally all I want.

[27:01] Ricardo Castro: All right, congratulations. You are officially off of the hot seat.

[27:07] Joe Rosko: Let's see if I can do some like outro music. Let's see.

[27:10] Ricardo Castro: You needed that applause.

[27:14] Joe Rosko: This is a this is a bad time.

[27:17] Ricardo Castro: Oh, maybe that'll be the intro next time.

[27:20] Joe Rosko: Yeah, this is a good one. I do have an option to add music, so I'll have to go into that applause next time. I'll have to be applause. But for now, okay, Ricardo. I so appreciate you uh being on the podcast. Uh insight that you shared, amazing. The laughs you shared, amazing. Uh, thanks for letting uh me and the rest of our listeners to get to know you. You're amazing, you're so nice, and I can't wait for you to come over to the states in California, New Jersey, and Chicago for Wuthering Heights.

[28:00] Ricardo Castro: Withering.

[28:03] Joe Rosko: Thank you for having me. It's been a blast, and I can't wait to see you in America.

[28:06] Joe Rosko: Yeah, I guess to plug Broadway World, you could check out more about Wuthering Heights there, and I'll put it in the caption. I'll put obviously a lot about Ricardo in the caption, but as well get a little synopsis uh review on Wuthering Heights. And if you theater fans are out there that are just diehards and you already know all about it, and you're cursing my name for being so ignorant about it right now. I apologize. I apologize.

[28:31] Ricardo Castro: All right, Ricardo, have a great day.

[28:35] Joe Rosko: Thank you so much.

[28:36] Ricardo Castro: You too.

[28:37] Joe Rosko: All right, everyone, Ricardo Castro. You can check out Ricardo's Instagram at Rico underscore Castro. Make sure to give him a follow and check out the description of this episode. There'll be all things about Ricardo there. Again, go Rusko from the Stage. If you haven't yet, have a free trial at BillForthestage.com and we'll be chatting up on an interactive fitness app. Actors or athletes, train like one. Later.