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[0:12] Jesse McAnally: Hello, I'm Jesse McAnally.

[0:14] Alan Seales: And I'm Alan Seales.

[0:16] Jesse McAnally: And welcome to "Carrey'd Away," the world's premier Jim Carrey podcast, where we explore the filmography of the rubber-faced Canadian actor, film by film and show by show.

[0:26] Alan Seales: How are you doing, Alan?

[0:27] Jesse McAnally: I'm good. I haven't seen you in so long.

[0:30] Jesse McAnally: Since our last, do you want to know what happened, Alan, between our last recording and this recording?

[0:35] Alan Seales: I do, I do.

[0:36] Jesse McAnally: I had to go on a little trip to Club Med.

[0:40] Alan Seales: Oh boy.

[0:41] Jesse McAnally: Uh, and you wanna know what happens in Club Med, apparently?

[0:45] Alan Seales: Um, music, rock concerts.

[0:47] Jesse McAnally: A lot of bad rock music?

[0:48] Alan Seales: A lot of bad rock music, and I get to bother a lot of people just trying to enjoy their stay.

[0:54] Jesse McAnally: It's great. I do impressions. I just walk up to a mic and start singing "Mr. Bojangles," and then eventually it stops and the movie's over.

[1:02] Jesse McAnally: This week, we're talking about "Copper Mountain," a Club Med experience.

[1:16] Alan Seales: I gotta learn how to ski.

[1:18] Jesse McAnally: Hey, that's a screw it.

[1:19] Alan Seales: Hey, and it's easy, you know, all you have to do is implement John Cod Kitty.

[1:30] Jesse McAnally: I'm waiting for big.

[1:48] Jesse McAnally: So "Copper Mountain," a Club Med experience, was released on July 7th, 1983 in the United States. It was written by Damian Lee and David Mitchell and directed by David Mitchell.

[1:59] Jesse McAnally: And the plot of which is two friends, Bobby Todd and Jackson Reach, travel from their hometown of Grimsby to the Club Med village in Copper Mountain. Jackson intends to hit the slopes and ski while Bobby attempts to seduce women with impressions routines.

[2:14] Jesse McAnally: That has never worked in the history of ever. Eventually, Jackson wins a challenge race, and Bobby finds companionship by being himself.

[2:22] Alan Seales: Alright. So you left out that his friend Jackson Reach is played by who?

[2:30] Jesse McAnally: Mr. Alan Thicke, the father of one Robin Thicke, the blurred lines guy's father.

[2:35] Alan Seales: The grandfather of blurred lines, if you might think.

[2:57] Jesse McAnally: Well, good thing he got sued for that song. But Alan Thicke, um, I have no impression of Alan Thicke aside from the fact that he was in "Growing Pains." Like that's the only thing I know about him.

[3:09] Alan Seales: Yeah, I mean, uh, let's see. So let's see. Uh, Alan Thicke. Um, like I remember right before he died, he was on "Fuller House," and then it was really sad that he was in "Fuller House," and that was the last thing he did.

[3:23] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, because that was bad that that was the last thing anybody did. Um, films. Uh, let's see. Uh, you know, "Robodoc," the 2009 smash hit.

[3:36] Alan Seales: Um, "Being Canadian," the 2015 smash hit.

[3:41] Jesse McAnally: I hear that was only beat out for number one that year by "The Force Awakens," so that one really did good.

[3:49] Alan Seales: "Casper Meets Wendy."

[3:51] Jesse McAnally: Oh, that movie's actually high quality. Hillary Duff should have gotten an Oscar.

[3:55] Alan Seales: Classic. He's got a much longer TV resume than a movie resume.

[4:01] Jesse McAnally: And TV movies are separated out completely in Wikipedia here. But oh, there's "Growing Pains: Return of the Seavers" in 2002. But you know, but if you look at the very top, what was his first role on a TV movie?

[4:12] Alan Seales: "Copper Mountain."

[4:14] Jesse McAnally: "Copper Mountain," which is basically an infomercial paid for by MetLabs.

[4:19] Alan Seales: Club Med.

[4:20] Jesse McAnally: MetLife Insurance?

[4:21] Alan Seales: MetLife.

[4:22] Jesse McAnally: Um, sadly enough, we could not enjoy the Club Med experience because it is now closed. The ad did not work as well. But it was in Copper Mountain, Colorado, which I hear is beautiful from all of my Colorado friends.

[4:36] Alan Seales: A real place. And it like if you look once again, uh, a film marketed on the face of Jim Carrey, despite him not being in it very much.

[4:46] Jesse McAnally: All the DVDs have his face dead center. Jim Carrey's in this movie, I promise.

[4:51] Alan Seales: Then you started off, he's kinda there. I will say, you get a little bit more of your fill of Jim Carrey than you did in "Rubberface" or even "All in Good Taste."

[5:03] Jesse McAnally: All of those things. He's like barely in it. And then this one, you know what? He is a main character. I will give you that much credit. As much as he can be in an ad for Club Med that is pretending to be a movie.

[5:16] Alan Seales: That is also an ad for a bunch of bands that is also covered with mild misogyny.

[5:24] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. Also, they sing the same Creedence Clearwater Revival song three times.

[5:29] Alan Seales: It's a good song.

[5:31] Jesse McAnally: Like every time he's like, yeah, start it up again. They're not even like montages or snippets. It's the entire song in full length.

[5:41] Alan Seales: Like the one man finishes, and they're like, hey, we have a new we have another lady coming up to sing a different song.

[5:47] Jesse McAnally: Oh, it's gonna be a montage to them skiing. It's like, oh no, she's singing the whole song. It's the entire scene. You don't make it to 45 minutes that easily. You gotta put the songs in there.

[5:57] Alan Seales: Jim only has so many impressions. He's just like 23 or whatever he is.

[6:01] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, so don't hear the tagline of "Copper Mountain"?

[6:04] Alan Seales: Sure do.

[6:04] Jesse McAnally: Jim Carrey, in one of his first and funniest films, I think that's what it says. It's a very low-res image. Running riot in the Colorado ski slope.

[6:11] Alan Seales: Running riot.

[6:15] Jesse McAnally: Yes, pestering young women is a good way to describe running riot. He is going up to women, and I'm like, I'm gonna do Jack Nicholson's at you until you have sex with me, and that is his entire character.

[6:29] Alan Seales: But that's also his they're treating it like an affliction. Like he is unable to talk to anybody without acting like Jack Nicholson's.

[6:38] Jesse McAnally: Like that is a mental disorder he cannot overcome. Do you think it is an overall like if we look back on this through his entire career as a meta reading on his entire career? Like, can't you just be you, Jim, without doing all the voices and the faces? Can't we just see the real you?

[6:55] Alan Seales: And he's like, Nope! I'm Jim Carrey. I'm gonna turn it on. I'm up to 11 no matter what.

[7:05] Jesse McAnally: But he's having this really intense, serious conversation with Buddy Alan Thicke. And he just like, I just I can't, I can't talk to women unless I talk like Jack Nicholson's. I don't understand why I just can't I can't not do this.

[7:22] Alan Seales: See, when I talk to women, I can't seem to be myself. I get nervous and I when I get carried away trying to be someone else.

[7:31] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, well I've heard a split personality before, but Jack Nicholson's at 30,000 feet. Now that is extreme.

[7:37] Alan Seales: It's dangerous.

[7:38] Jesse McAnally: It's very bizarre, Bobby, and you ought to see somebody about that and tell you that is your friend. It's a problem.

[7:44] Alan Seales: It was a great impression, though.

[7:47] Jesse McAnally: It's not funny.

[7:48] Alan Seales: Well, you worry too much. You know, you and I and whoever else, you got locked up in there. We're gonna take Club Med by storm.

[7:55] Jesse McAnally: Oh yeah.

[7:56] Alan Seales: Oh yeah. As someone who has like the ability to have normal conversation, I just want to throw my shoe at the screen and tell him to like move on to the next scene, because this is just frickin' stupid.

[8:08] Jesse McAnally: The thing is, Jim Carrey's a handsome man. If he just went up to a girl and was like, you know what, you want to help me with stand-up comedy? I think it would probably work.

[8:17] Alan Seales: That was the last episode.

[8:18] Jesse McAnally: That was "Rubberface."

[8:20] Alan Seales: That was "Rubberface." Or the episode before that. I don't know.

[8:22] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think all like Jim Carrey is a handsome enough guy that he doesn't need to do anything for a woman to like fall into his arms, I feel like.

[8:32] Alan Seales: I feel like I'm gonna interject here. He's gotta do a little work. He's not that attractive in this.

[8:40] Jesse McAnally: He's boyish right now. He feels like it feels like he plays like if you're modern actors, he feels like he plays a little too much Call of Duty in 2006. Like, I don't want to hang out with him because I feel like he's just gonna tell me about video games all day.

[8:56] Alan Seales: And I'm like, I don't care, Jim.

[8:59] Jesse McAnally: But if he tells you about video games in a normal voice versus Jack Nicholson's voice, would be the Jack Nicholson's improves it.

[9:05] Alan Seales: I'm kidding.

[9:06] Jesse McAnally: Oh, so honestly, we should stick with the Jack Nicholson's.

[9:09] Alan Seales: No, no, no. If you want to impress a woman, don't use a Jack Nicholson's impression.

[9:12] Jesse McAnally: What impression should I use to impress women?

[9:14] Alan Seales: I'm taking it. Oh, my boy, my partner impressed me with a Tom Busseau impression, so we're all different.

[9:20] Jesse McAnally: How about what if I pull out my Mandy Patinkin impression?

[9:22] Alan Seales: Well, that lead to me getting a big thing.

[9:24] Jesse McAnally: I want to hear this. Let's hear, let's hear Mandy Patinkin.

[9:30] Alan Seales: Oh god, I didn't expect this right now.

[9:32] Jesse McAnally: You brought it up.

[9:33] Alan Seales: Well, the thing about Mandy Patinkin that most people just do the falsetto side of it where it's like, what is the song? "Que Sera, Sera," whatever will be, will be.

[9:46] Jesse McAnally: The fun shall not us to see.

[9:50] Alan Seales: "Que Sera, Sera."

[9:53] Jesse McAnally: Well, the fact that you had to explain it made it that much funnier.

[9:57] Alan Seales: That really works in the ladies.

[9:58] Jesse McAnally: It's not funny.

[9:59] Alan Seales: It's just like, yeah, it's the Mandy Patinkin voice. You gotta go, and then you go, oh hi, I'm Mandy Patinkin, and oh no, I'm not.

[10:09] Jesse McAnally: And just gets all the ladies from his Mandy Patinkin impression.

[10:12] Alan Seales: It does. It does. You just need to start singing those songs.

[10:15] Jesse McAnally: Um, but what is Alan Thicke's problem?

[10:19] Alan Seales: Alan Thicke, what uh, where do we start? Um, fat shaming a guy and deciding I'm gonna be a better skier than him.

[10:27] Jesse McAnally: He plays like the douchebaggy bro buddy, but he's totally miscast in that role. Because I think in real life he's the dad from "Growing Pains." Like that wasn't acting.

[10:39] Alan Seales: So now he's trying to be this kind of D-bag sort of a guy, and it doesn't work for me.

[10:45] Jesse McAnally: But he's the Bob might have worked better.

[10:48] Alan Seales: Yes, much better. Or like I would have liked to have seen Gilbert Gottfried.

[10:52] Jesse McAnally: That's you know what? Let's introduce a segment on the podcast called "Who Wore It Better?" Where we find all the other comedians that would have done a better job than somebody else that we didn't like in the movie.

[11:05] Alan Seales: And bonus point is if they're dead recently.

[11:08] Jesse McAnally: So Norm Macdonald also would have done a very good job in this.

[11:11] Alan Seales: Oh god. He would have though.

[11:13] Jesse McAnally: It's true.

[11:16] Alan Seales: Gilbert Gottfried.

[11:18] Jesse McAnally: Hey! So you gotta just do your impressions for him.

[11:24] Alan Seales: Which is coming from Gilbert would have been really kind of crazy. You gotta do impressions to impress the ladies.

[11:33] Jesse McAnally: Was that Jerry Lewis?

[11:34] Alan Seales: I don't know.

[11:36] Jesse McAnally: I can only do William Shatner, really.

[11:40] Alan Seales: No one can do a good Gilbert Gottfried, I don't think.

[11:45] Jesse McAnally: Like, even those that think they can, like, uh, it's a struggle because it's so very specific.

[11:51] Alan Seales: Like, I feel like I do a better Bob Saget.

[11:54] Jesse McAnally: Like, come on, Jim, you gotta do better than that.

[11:56] Alan Seales: Come on. You do your impressions for the girl. Like, you just gotta be kind of sleazy and a bit of a dick, and you're just gonna be like, chicks love Jack Nicholson's.

[11:59] Jesse McAnally: Chicks love Jack Nicholson's. His deep receding hairline, it just reminds them of like the sexual power of men.

[12:11] Alan Seales: I mean, Jack Nicholson's's an entire movie where he learned to not date younger women, so oh my god.

[12:16] Jesse McAnally: Well, so Liz, what would you how would you characterize Alan Thicke, aka Jack Reach? His overall personality.

[12:25] Alan Seales: Uh, he reminds me of the I hate to mention "South Park." He reminds me of the guy from the "South Park" skiing episode that wants to beat up the kids all the time.

[12:37] Jesse McAnally: It's like I'm gonna beat you in skiing until you're eight.

[12:46] Alan Seales: Yes. And it's the guy and he'll then he'll sing the montage song from "South Park," and then we'll have fun.

[12:52] Jesse McAnally: But reminds me of every douche in an '80s ski movie, but played by a guy who doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

[13:00] Alan Seales: So in between takes Alan, like not Alan Thicke.

[13:03] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, Alan Thicke.

[13:05] Alan Seales: I get Robin and Alan mixed up now. Thanks, Jess. Robin Thicke is not in this movie.

[13:10] Jesse McAnally: No, I feel like in between takes Alan Thicke is like, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, I called you fat. I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. I did not think you're fat. I do not think you're fat. Anyway, I to call you fat in the next take. So um, I'm so sorry again. I'm gonna say sorry after the takes over. Okay? Alright, I'm ready to actually. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. You're not fat.

[13:27] Alan Seales: Um, I get that Alan Thicke just feels like he's the representation of toxic masculinity in every form. Like no matter what, I have to prove I'm better than this one guy, or else my dick's gonna feel smaller than everyone else. And then when you get showed up so effectively, it's just like, oh, I gotta eat this crow.

[13:46] Jesse McAnally: I just and also I like the fact that every woman they come across just despises them. Like that is the fact that the movie is kind of self-aware of how loathable these two human beings are.

[13:56] Alan Seales: That is an accurate reaction to anything they say, let me tell you. If either of these two freshmen skiers are art, I'd run away.

[14:04] Jesse McAnally: So it seems like when they were writing this movie, though, all they did was have a roulette wheel with two sides to it, and they spun it and they said, Alright, this next scene, is this gonna be another full-length song or another misogynistic scene?

[14:18] Alan Seales: And it went to full-length song about three too many times.

[14:21] Jesse McAnally: Well, I guess we should talk about each song. Did you know any of these artists?

[14:26] Alan Seales: No, did not.

[14:28] Jesse McAnally: Okay, because I feel like at least one of them had to ring a bell for someone, not a single one for me.

[14:33] Alan Seales: And I just assume that was just because I don't know musicians much.

[14:36] Jesse McAnally: No, no, I assume one of them was Charlie Daniels at one point, and I was like, no, wait, that's not there's no way that's Charlie Daniels.

[14:43] Jesse McAnally: No, Rita Coolidge, she sounds familiar. What is she in? Um, she did the soundtrack to Octopussy and Splash. Billboard Country Top, it's just Chris Christophers. I know I've heard of Chris Christopher. Okay, people also ask, according to Google, are Chris Christopher and Coolidge still friends? Um, I guess they dated. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, I care not at all.

[15:09] Alan Seales: Okay.

[15:10] Jesse McAnally: The only song that I knew, like as a song that I know exists in the wild, was when Jim Carrey goes up and does his Sammy Davis Junior impression and sings Mr. Bojangles.

[15:29] Alan Seales: What in the hell is going on? What are you trying to do, kid? Upstage the old hawk?

[15:37] Jesse McAnally: Don't sound too bad, kid. You sound kind of familiar. Like I might have heard you somewhere before.

[15:44] Alan Seales: Alright, boys, we gotta go through these tunes. Did wait, didn't they ask him to sound check or like, or weren't they in the middle of sound check?

[15:52] Jesse McAnally: I can't remember. I thought because there was a live mic, and someone was like, go up there and use it. And then he started doing his thing, and then instead of kicking them off like any good union manager would do, they were like, wait a second. This guy, this guy, he's on to something. He's got some talent.

[16:06] Alan Seales: I'm sorry, other act. This guy's going on.

[16:09] Jesse McAnally: But that doesn't even happen. He doesn't go on. He just kind of fucked around, and then they're like, oh, that's really good. Get off the stage now.

[16:15] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[16:16] Jesse McAnally: They let him go. The band in the background's like, wait, wait a second. Wait, hold on. Ah, yeah. Hey, I know this tune, but I don't know. Mr. Bud.

[16:24] Alan Seales: Yeah, they like back him up the whole way, and then he's like, Alright, I'm out. It's Vegas. Remember that scene in Walk Hard where like Dewey Cox is like, I have a new song. Trust me, you'll figure out how to play it. And then he just starts singing his brand new song.

[16:36] Jesse McAnally: His band is like, Oh, I know how to do this. Dewey, go get Paul.

[16:42] Alan Seales: I've been chopped in half. Real band.

[16:44] Jesse McAnally: Wrong kid, dad.

[16:45] Alan Seales: David Lyon.

[16:47] Jesse McAnally: John C. Reilly, it's the next podcast.

[16:49] Alan Seales: The wrong kid died.

[16:51] Jesse McAnally: We gotta get through a year and a half of this one.

[16:54] Alan Seales: Not even just a year and a half of this, because don't forget season two of this show is going through the sequels without Jim Carrey.

[16:59] Jesse McAnally: Oh boy.

[17:01] Alan Seales: Oh boy, I can't wait till you're gonna do it.

[17:02] Jesse McAnally: As soon as we get to the good stuff again.

[17:04] Alan Seales: I love Ace Ventura Jr. Best film.

[17:07] Jesse McAnally: Uh honestly, not his worst sequel without him in it.

[17:12] Alan Seales: I already know what that is.

[17:14] Jesse McAnally: Not when Son of the Mask exists. Like, you can't pick on a little kid as much as you can pick on the movie Son of the Mask.

[17:20] Alan Seales: So does the story wrap up at all, Alan? Or does it just kind of like wheel spin until it's done?

[17:26] Alan Seales: It they just end with a song and fade.

[17:29] Jesse McAnally: Shocker.

[17:30] Alan Seales: And fade out with like what would have been a cool drone shot had they existed back then. But it was probably an overpriced helicopter shot.

[17:38] Jesse McAnally: Well, no, it's the B roll that they paid just to get of Club Med in general.

[17:42] Alan Seales: Didn't they like yeah, but it was probably the Club Med like promotional material.

[17:47] Jesse McAnally: Literally, this whole thing reeks of infomercial where they're like, let's throw a couple actors in there that nobody's really heard of yet, and some song, some singers that people have heard of, and that'll get people out to Copper Mountain.

[18:02] Alan Seales: That'll do well, let's get them to Pizza Imprint track.

[18:04] Jesse McAnally: That's fair. I want to take a look at what the Club Med village in Copper Mountain actually consisted of.

[18:09] Alan Seales: Um for some reason I'm like look I want to see if there's like some kind of thing that happened there horribly.

[18:15] Jesse McAnally: So let's think. Um in 1986, the ABC TV movie Club Med stars Jack Scalia and Linda Hamilton as Club Med manager and guests, respectively, who fall in love.

[18:26] Alan Seales: So that is the most that that had in the pop culture.

[18:29] Jesse McAnally: Like this is like a little a like a footnote in the story of the popular cultural references of Club Med.

[18:36] Alan Seales: Whenever I think of Colorado, yeah, like the ski like snow of Colorado, I think Breckenridge, but that's because of Cannibal the Musical, which was Matt Stone and Trey Parker's's college project, which was way better than Copper Mountain, by the way.

[18:52] Jesse McAnally: Oh yeah, yeah. Like for half the budget of Copper Mountain and like none of the stars. They filmed it over a week in spring break. They did it for fun, and it came out better than Copper Mountain.

[19:02] Alan Seales: I'd say that's a high quality musical.

[19:03] Jesse McAnally: I honestly think that's the best musical they've ever written.

[19:06] Alan Seales: And yes, I'm including every musical they've ever written.

[19:12] Jesse McAnally: It's better than Book of Mormon, better than the South Park movie, better than Imagination Land. I think that is the best musical they've ever created.

[19:21] Alan Seales: It's like two songs.

[19:22] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[19:23] Alan Seales: I will say there is a Club Med in Florida.

[19:26] Jesse McAnally: Oh.

[19:27] Alan Seales: Is there as much skiing there?

[19:28] Jesse McAnally: Uh probably not, but there's only one Club Med in the United States now, and it is Florida.

[19:33] Alan Seales: I have yeah. I had a friend who after college went down and was like a tour director or something at Club in that Club Med in Florida.

[19:42] Jesse McAnally: She had a really good time.

[19:43] Alan Seales: Sandpiper Bay.

[19:45] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, that's the one.

[19:46] Alan Seales: There's also one in Quebec.

[19:49] Jesse McAnally: Kibi?

[19:50] Alan Seales: Well, we say.

[19:53] Jesse McAnally: I know, right? That'll open later.

[19:55] Alan Seales: I'm down the Club Med website.

[19:57] Jesse McAnally: So there's some last minute deals I can buy real quick if I want to go to a Club Med.

[20:02] Alan Seales: So okay, all three of us. We're going to Club Med.

[20:05] Jesse McAnally: Listen, I think they need to sponsor this podcast, and we will go and do live shows from...

[20:05] Alan Seales: I would do that.

[20:13] Jesse McAnally: I would do that too. I would go to Club Med and ski and record podcasts while we're skiing.

[20:18] Alan Seales: Every episode has to fit into a chairlift ride.

[20:20] Jesse McAnally: Can I sit in the chairlift and record the podcast so you guys can see the support from the chairlift?

[20:29] Alan Seales: You have to get on microphones to carry the mics.

[20:33] Jesse McAnally: They will sponsor us, but not enough to get cordless equipment.

[20:37] Alan Seales: So we are wired to you.

[20:38] Jesse McAnally: So you have to be able to do that.

[20:40] Alan Seales: I'm wired to the chair. I'm just like stuck there.

[20:42] Jesse McAnally: You guys are like, I'm Jess and I'm Alan. World, this is not Carrey'd Away.

[20:46] Alan Seales: We got carried away.

[20:52] Jesse McAnally: They give us just enough cable for you to hang in the chair behind us while we're interviewing, talking while we're going up the chairlift.

[21:00] Alan Seales: I'm dead desperate trying to interject randomly like, guys, this is bad.

[21:03] Jesse McAnally: You need to as fast.

[21:06] Alan Seales: But you have to, but we don't have walkie talkies, so you're just shouting at it the whole time.

[21:09] Jesse McAnally: Yars!

[21:11] Alan Seales: And then people listen in the podcast because it still gets uploaded.

[21:14] Jesse McAnally: We gotta, we got deadlines to make.

[21:16] Alan Seales: Um, it's sponsored by Club Med.

[21:19] Jesse McAnally: We have to upload it.

[21:20] Alan Seales: We have no choice.

[21:22] Jesse McAnally: When you go corporate, you gotta meet your deadlines.

[21:26] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[21:26] Jesse McAnally: And we record the second episode in Florida where we're not skiing, and it's a lot more calm.

[21:30] Alan Seales: But that's on the water.

[21:32] Jesse McAnally: So that's harder to maintain because all the recording gear's in plastic.

[21:35] Alan Seales: It's still cordial, still covered in cords.

[21:38] Jesse McAnally: We're all corded, yes.

[21:39] Alan Seales: We're still just in Florida, though, which is just like being in hell.

[21:42] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, more or less.

[21:44] Alan Seales: So, Copper Mountain.

[21:46] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, we have failed to talk about the best character in the entire movie, though.

[21:50] Alan Seales: The band?

[21:51] Jesse McAnally: No, Yogi Haberdaddy.

[21:54] Alan Seales: Hab Haberdaddy.

[21:55] Jesse McAnally: Habadaddy.

[21:56] Alan Seales: He is a character that has the best name, appears for a second, and then whenever he's not on screen, people just start talking about him for no reason.

[22:04] Jesse McAnally: Sadly enough, this actor has not done anything else.

[22:07] Alan Seales: So no, but you don't just throw a character named Yogi Haberdaddy in the movie, talk about him a bunch and just have him have no presence whatsoever physically.

[22:17] Jesse McAnally: Also, he was weirdly a part of the plot because it's like Alan Thicke was trying to win the ski race.

[22:21] Alan Seales: This is the vague plot this movie has.

[22:23] Jesse McAnally: Uh, so Alan Thicke's trying to win a ski race, but he loses to Yogi Haberdaddy, um, which is a fun name to say.

[22:28] Alan Seales: And then Yogi Haberdaddy's like, I feel bad for you, whatever your name is, Alan Thicke, and I'm gonna let you compete in my place for no apparent reason.

[22:37] Jesse McAnally: Well, no, he has every medal ever made from skiing, so he doesn't need another one.

[22:42] Alan Seales: So Alan Thicke, you go and try to win a medal.

[22:44] Jesse McAnally: It's just, it's Starlight Express rules.

[22:46] Alan Seales: Like, I don't care if you didn't win any of the other races.

[22:50] Jesse McAnally: You get to win the tournament now just because you're not going to be able to get the channel.

[22:52] Alan Seales: Now that you said that, Andrew Lloyd Webber is gonna hear it and think of make a musical based on Copper Mountain.

[22:56] Jesse McAnally: It's already a musical.

[23:02] Alan Seales: That's a good point.

[23:03] Jesse McAnally: You were talking about this subplot with Alan Thicke trying to win this race.

[23:07] Alan Seales: Like he, I get that he is the most competitive masculine influence in this movie, and he's trying to, you know, he's influencing Jim to like go be with the ladies and be popular.

[23:19] Jesse McAnally: So like they show up together, and then he has nothing to do, so they write him this story to try to beat all the other skiers when he's not that good.

[23:29] Alan Seales: Like, not even not that good in real life, but in the movie he keeps falling down.

[23:33] Jesse McAnally: Okay, this is just a dumb thing. The, I’m just looking at the Wikipedia. They credit Jim Carrey as both Bobby Todd slash Sammy Davis Jr., which is just a choice.

[23:45] Alan Seales: As if to imply he's like, I wonder if that was written, or if they were like Jim goes up to Mike and sings and becomes Sammy Davis Jr.

[23:54] Jesse McAnally: Well, he just like whipped out, you know, his impression of Sammy Davis Jr. Or the movie just didn't have a script, and they showed up at a Club Med in Colorado and like, okay, let's make up a movie.

[24:04] Alan Seales: We have these bands that we can fill the runtime with. Jim, go up there and do something.

[24:09] Jesse McAnally: Let's go.

[24:11] Alan Seales: How dare you assume this doesn't have a script? It is a tightly wound plot with a lot of thematic ties.

[24:14] Jesse McAnally: Totally, especially that clear, especially that Clearwater Rival song we heard three times.

[24:19] Alan Seales: Very tightly. Rumor has it they filmed the entire thing in an hour and a half.

[24:23] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, it's, it's yeah, the movie's an hour, so that would make some sense.

[24:27] Alan Seales: And then so the 30 minutes was just rehearsal time for the band.

[24:30] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, it was live recording.

[24:32] Alan Seales: It's a live movie.

[24:33] Jesse McAnally: What is the worst part of this movie? Is it the Jim Carrey subplot, or is it the Alan Thicke subplot, or is it the third option, which is the interminable songs?

[24:42] Alan Seales: It's the songs, man.

[24:44] Jesse McAnally: It's gotta be the songs because you're like plot, plot, plot, and then alright, we're sorta going somewhere, and then screeching halt. Let's listen to an entire full-length song that we've already heard.

[25:03] Alan Seales: Stuck in Louis.

[25:14] Jesse McAnally: Jim Carrey feels like he might one day get a woman. And even in the end, he doesn't. He just kind of boober's into like someone that doesn't despise him for a second.

[25:24] Alan Seales: Because he plays like he's getting hurt and gets two women to carry him off the slopes.

[25:30] Jesse McAnally: That's him being himself. Right. That's the plot of the movie.

[25:33] Alan Seales: Okay. If that's what the movie says.

[25:36] Jesse McAnally: Liz, how about we go into a mid-show and then we look at some reviews.

[26:02] Alan Seales: Man, weren't those some awesome commercials?

[26:05] Jesse McAnally: I bet you feel like looking into all of them. How about we get on to some other reviews?

[26:10] Alan Seales: Liz, you've got something in your critical corner. What do we have here?

[26:14] Jesse McAnally: Let me tell you, I there's not many reviews for these movies, uh, these Canadian TV movies that are also ads for Club Med, but I went on the Rotten Tomatoes page and I found a blog post from 2021 of some random person deciding to watch Copper Mountain.

[26:30] Alan Seales: How does that mean?

[26:31] Jesse McAnally: That was on the official Rotten Tomatoes page.

[26:33] Alan Seales: So I don't want to hear that.

[26:35] Jesse McAnally: How do we get our podcast like approved by Rotten Tomatoes so that we can decide whether The Last Jedi deserves a 100% score on Rotten Tomatoes or whatnot?

[26:44] Alan Seales: I don't know, but now I have a new purpose in life.

[26:47] Jesse McAnally: So I'm gonna find out.

[26:50] Alan Seales: We're gonna be the one review of Rubber Face on Rotten Tomatoes, giving it a 100%.

[26:54] Jesse McAnally: There are zero.

[26:55] Alan Seales: There are zero.

[26:56] Jesse McAnally: The only review I found Red Face was a sentence describing the premise.

[26:59] Alan Seales: Liz, we could do that.

[27:00] Jesse McAnally: That could be us.

[27:01] Alan Seales: We could define the score of Rubber Face.

[27:07] Jesse McAnally: Let's go.

[27:08] Alan Seales: Liz, what does it say?

[27:10] Jesse McAnally: So this is from Chase Bird, the Jazz Kemig from The Stranger. Um, in this post in 2021. It's a blog post of a bunch of random movies from a bunch of random years.

[27:20] Alan Seales: So very, let's just say maybe they're just deep into the COVID.

[27:24] Jesse McAnally: You know what? I have had this Copper Mountain DVD sitting around for 17 years. Might as well give it a watch because I got nothing better to do.

[27:31] Alan Seales: That's true.

[27:32] Jesse McAnally: Alright, here we go. This movie is trash. Let's not pretend otherwise.

[27:34] Alan Seales: What?

[27:36] Jesse McAnally: It's unstreamable, it's not hard to find. Copies on eBay sell for like a buck. I only rented it because it features prolific alpine skier Jean-Claude Killy, and I'm on an Olympic kick.

[27:48] Alan Seales: It also, as you can see, as you can see above, features a very early career of Jim Carrey.

[27:54] Jesse McAnally: That's the appeal for most people.

[27:55] Alan Seales: But as one eBay reviewer wrote, I thought the movie was the dumbest movie I ever seen. They shouldn't have been able to release the movie.

[28:02] Jesse McAnally: Doesn't that make you want to see it?

[28:05] Alan Seales: Honestly, that review, if I had read that first, I would have wanted to see it.

[28:08] Jesse McAnally: Also, I do not know Jean-Claude Killy was. I just looked, I just looked up Jean-Claude. He is a French former World Cup Alpine ski racer who dominated the sport in the late 1960s.

[28:18] Alan Seales: Yeah, this whole movie between the singers and Jean-Claude must like all of their budget must have gone to that.

[28:25] Jesse McAnally: And then they're like, oh yeah, we need to pay some writers. Let's hire our teenage kids to do it.

[28:30] Alan Seales: And so then they developed the script, which didn't go anywhere. But this whole thing must have been a favor to somebody for Club Med.

[28:33] Jesse McAnally: Club Med.

[28:38] Alan Seales: Yeah. Is that what our future ski podcast will be one day?

[28:42] Jesse McAnally: Alan, maybe if we started a ski podcast, we get invited to Club Med and we literally just do it for the vacation trip.

[28:49] Alan Seales: Ski cast.

[28:50] Jesse McAnally: Alright.

[28:51] Alan Seales: Come on.

[28:52] Jesse McAnally: Gotta get on that. Make that money.

[28:56] Alan Seales: Honestly, we are here to sell out.

[28:59] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, sell completely.

[29:00] Alan Seales: I was, there's one scene where they introduced the skier, and the entire scene is the guy going, Aren't you Jean-Claude Killy, the guy who won a bunch of medals and like was just exhibition telling me who this guy is because no one knew who he was.

[29:11] Jesse McAnally: It reminds me of that when Chuck was sponsored by Subway for two seasons, there was an entire scene every other episode where they were discussing the new Subway sandwich that was apparently delicious.

[29:21] Alan Seales: I remember that and thought it was so weird.

[29:24] Jesse McAnally: It's very weird.

[29:31] Jesse McAnally: He's probably talking about Subway. Community's great. Um, is Jean-Claude Kelly still alive?

[29:37] Alan Seales: Oh yes. Hey, Jean-Claude, come on to the show. He's 78. Tell us about Copper Mountain. Tell us about the making of Copper Mountain.

[29:47] Jesse McAnally: So for all of these early Jim Carrey movies, if anyone was involved in them in any way whatsoever and want to come on to try to elaborate on some of it, we would welcome that wholeheartedly. Like, we wanna know explanations of why Copper Mountain is what it is, why it feels like it was shot on a potato and the microphones didn't exist. Explain these things to me, please.

[30:09] Alan Seales: Shot in a potato is probably the best way I've heard anything described my entire life.

[30:16] Jesse McAnally: Hey, how'd you film that?

[30:17] Alan Seales: I used a potato. Just shot it through a potato.

[30:21] Jesse McAnally: So fun fact I'm gonna go filmmaker nerd. You can actually film things through a potato. Um, and it has been done. Like a lens through it. You put it looked fine. Like they just set up some film, put a sensor in there, like they shot it through a potato. So I think the follow-up to this podcast, the sequel, is gonna be Shot Through a Potato.

[30:45] Alan Seales: That's the name of our next podcast.

[30:46] Jesse McAnally: Heck yeah. Um, but on that note, who cares what this guy on the the the the stranger dot com has to say. It's a time for us to compare our opinions to those of the crazy people over on letterbox.com. It's time for Letterbox Liz to read us some letterbox reviews.

[31:04] Alan Seales: Yeah, yeah.

[31:05] Jesse McAnally: Okay, I will say, seven hundred people in Letterboxd have seen Copper Mountain. And guess who's one of them?

[31:11] Alan Seales: Was it me?

[31:12] Jesse McAnally: It was you, two years ago.

[31:14] Alan Seales: Oh, what did I give it?

[31:15] Jesse McAnally: One and a half.

[31:17] Alan Seales: Oh, I liked it better than Rubber Face. Good for me.

[31:19] Jesse McAnally: You liked it way better than Rubber Face two years ago. Let me give you context for that real quick, 'cause I know my context for that one. Um, so I got this movie for Christmas, I think fifteen years ago. Just 'cause my parents knew I liked Jim Carrey, it had his face on it, and I put it in, and right when I heard the audio, I was like, I'm noping out of this. I made it fifteen minutes in, and I was like, I don't think I will enjoy this.

[31:45] Alan Seales: Um, all right, what do we got, Liz?

[31:48] Unknown speaker: Alright. Who wants to go first?

[31:50] Alan Seales: Uh, I'll go first.

[31:51] Unknown speaker: Yeah.

[31:52] Alan Seales: All right. Jim does a Sammy Davis Jr. present for about seven minutes in, and it can even distract you from the fact this is an hour-long Club Med marketing tool. That's a one star.

[32:01] Unknown speaker: Yes.

[32:05] Alan Seales: I don't even think I need to hear more. There's still no fives, so it's over a one.

[32:10] Unknown speaker: All right, so one over a one. Or not one. No one has given this like three people given this five stars, they have written any words on it, so I don't know their true opinions. So those letterbox users who rated that five stars, put your words, put your thoughts in words. I wanna know. Use your words.

[32:29] Jesse McAnally: As I qu talk about my best friend Brent's video game, use your words. Use your words. Great game, by the way.

[32:38] Alan Seales: All right, you're up.

[32:40] Unknown speaker: Okay. I can promise you that I've seen this movie more than anyone else before. Me and my mate put this on every time we go get back from the pub and watch it. It's crap, but for some stupid reason we quote the shit out of it. I reckon I've seen it 80 times. So that's definitely not a one. I maybe a three.

[33:01] Alan Seales: It is a three.

[33:02] Unknown speaker: Good joke. It's a three.

[33:03] Alan Seales: Yes. It's really odd with you guys.

[33:07] Jesse McAnally: I know, right.

[33:09] Alan Seales: So bad. All right. It's like what do you know? There are certain things you watch when you get hired or when you get drunk or something. Like Tucker and Dale versus Evil. That's one of those that are like, that's a great bad movie.

[33:19] Jesse McAnally: A Trolls 2.

[33:23] Alan Seales: You never see Trolls 2?

[33:24] Jesse McAnally: There never was a Trolls 1.

[33:25] Alan Seales: I have not seen Trolls 2. But I don't have any small children, so that's probably why.

[33:30] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. No, it is nothing to no, not that trolls. Not trolls.

[33:33] Alan Seales: Oh, the Troll 2. You're talking about Troll 2, not Trolls 2.

[33:38] Jesse McAnally: Troll 2.

[33:38] Alan Seales: Troll 2. That's a great movie to watch while it talks about.

[33:42] Jesse McAnally: See little people, the live-action one, yes.

[33:44] Alan Seales: Yeah, the moment they turn the people into vegetables so they can eat them.

[33:48] Jesse McAnally: They turn them into trees. Then they eat the tree.

[33:50] Alan Seales: Yeah, that was better than Copper Mountain.

[33:52] Jesse McAnally: It's way better than Copper Mountain. What's that? Throw a rock, you'll find a movie better than Copper Mountain.

[33:58] Alan Seales: They were all still shot through a potato.

[34:00] Unknown speaker: All right, next one.

[34:01] Alan Seales: Yes. Next one.

[34:01] Unknown speaker: All right. Jim Carrey is so young here. A cutie dork. Smiley face. This is the thirstiest these early Jim Carrey movies get. We're gonna get much thirstier, I feel like, when we go further. Like we when we do letterbox on Musicals with Cheese, they get like overtly sexual to a way. There's a lot of Grandpa Joe thirst. Oh yeah. Listen to our walk episode for that one. But I'm gonna give that one a three or at least above one.

[34:31] Alan Seales: That is a three.

[34:34] Unknown speaker: All right, next up. This is my favorite one. Yogi Haberdaddy is the love of my life. Shh. Don't tell my boyfriend Jacob. A bunch of emojis. One being the devil emoji.

[34:47] Alan Seales: Yogi Haberdaddy. Well. There was nothing negative about that review, so it's not a one. It's either two or three again. Uh, I'll give it another three.

[34:58] Unknown speaker: It's actually a one.

[35:00] Alan Seales: What?

[35:02] Unknown speaker: Yogi Haberdaddy.

[35:04] Alan Seales: I know it surprised me too. Nope. Table flip. Table flip. I want to recount. Flips the table. That's why I can't do it. This is why I can't do the record this podcast on skis, because you can't flip a table.

[35:15] Jesse McAnally: You can't put my ski lift over though. Flip my ski lift. That will make the equipment fall in the snow.

[35:22] Alan Seales: Well, we're that's why we have wires, so we can just pull it back up.

[35:26] Jesse McAnally: You're not wrong. You're not wrong. All right. My brother bought the DVD at Goodwill for one dollar. After he watched it, he passed it on to me. And I gotta say, it's a fucking gem.

[35:39] Alan Seales: That's a that's not a one star.

[35:41] Unknown speaker: That sounds like a lovely story.

[35:43] Alan Seales: Yeah. That's a brother. This is a tale of brotherhood. The true brotherhood is sharing Copper Mountain. And picking which one you are. Are you more Jim Carrey or Alan Thicke?

[35:53] Jesse McAnally: So what is this? What is this, Jess? What is it?

[35:55] Alan Seales: It said it's a three.

[35:57] Unknown speaker: You're right. It's a three.

[35:59] Alan Seales: You're right. I said it wasn't a one. I said that a thousand years ago, Liz.

[36:02] Unknown speaker: Sorry, I you were just talking. I was letting you talk.

[36:06] Alan Seales: All right. Next up. Skiing beer mugs. Period? That's it. That's the entire thing. Skiing beer mugs. Because that's what they called Yogi. They called him a beer mug because fat.

[36:17] Unknown speaker: So what all right. One star.

[36:18] Alan Seales: One star.

[36:18] Unknown speaker: Yes. All right. All right, next up. Skiing beer mugs shot through a potato. Yes. Can't tell this is an infomercial or a mountain music concert. Maybe both. Wait, you can you can't tell it's a if it's an infomercial?

[36:34] Alan Seales: Oh, we're not done yet. War. Why is Jim Carrey in it? The plot doesn't really follow any sort of regular method of storytelling, so it's hard to tell what's going on.

[36:42] Unknown speaker: No what? One.

[36:44] Alan Seales: Yes. Had to think about it. All right. That could have gone two.

[36:47] Unknown speaker: I think I saved the best for last.

[36:49] Alan Seales: That could have gone too.

[36:51] Unknown speaker: To be completely honest, I was playing Brick's Ball Crusher on my phone while watching this. But that movie, but that only made the movie better.

[37:07] Alan Seales: Brick's Ball Crusher. Let's Google what that is.

[37:09] Unknown speaker: That's an app I get ads for all the time while playing other apps.

[37:13] Alan Seales: Oh, okay. Oh yeah, you just throw the balls at bricks. Makes sense. It made the base com around better though, according to this lovely user.

[37:24] Unknown speaker: I crush you.

[37:25] Jesse McAnally: We are in Canada, so that is a good reference to make.

[37:28] Alan Seales: One star.

[37:29] Unknown speaker: That is a one.

[37:31] Alan Seales: Bing bang.

[37:33] Unknown speaker: Oh, yeah, we are tied.

[37:34] Alan Seales: Yeah. Is that the end of the game?

[37:36] Unknown speaker: That's the end.

[37:37] Alan Seales: You and I are too evenly matched. We must fight to the death now. Each one Copper Mountain. I shall see you with my skiing beer mugs.

[37:45] Jesse McAnally: I'll bring the equipment. Don't forget the cable.

[37:51] Alan Seales: French Fry waffle, French Fry Who. Let's get some fries after this is over.

[37:58] Jesse McAnally: And then we're all just a mangled body parts and you know, microphone cables at the bottom of the mountain. She died being what she loved, being covered in microphone cords on a ski lamp. You know, it's a love that I can't explain to my parents, but I feel it so deeply.

[38:16] Alan Seales: On that note, Alan, what is your overall thoughts on Copper Mountain? And is it an alrighty then or a no spank you?

[38:25] Jesse McAnally: Oh god, it's a no spank you. It's a no question, it's a no spank you.

[38:30] Alan Seales: Is it more or less of a no spank you than Rubber Face?

[38:39] Jesse McAnally: I wanna at least I knew what Rubber Face was trying to do that wasn't selling tickets for mm I want to keep saying MetLife. Club Med. Club Med.

[38:54] Alan Seales: So I'm gonna say it's more of a no spanky than Rubber Face.

[38:54] Jesse McAnally: So Rubber Face is still number one in our rankings, because I wholeheartedly agree with you. It's a no spanky. But Rubber Face is still significantly more of a movie with a plot and things it wanted to say.

[39:11] Alan Seales: Wow. Like that's a dawn Rubber Face with faint praise, but it's a better thing. Um, also I want to ask, do you think how was the carry of it all? Well, how do you think Jim Carrey was represented, and how much of his future work do you see in this one?

[39:29] Jesse McAnally: I felt like um like he did a pretty decent job in this with the little story that existed. He got to give a little bit of uh, you know, his Sammy Davis Jr. impersonation, and he got to do his Jack Nicholson's impersonation. So he was sort of getting there doing impersonations, but he still has yet to develop his own unique character for the movie we are talking about. He's doing it, he's still doing other people.

[39:56] Alan Seales: That's fair. Uh all right, Liz, what do you think? No spank you or alrighty then?

[40:02] Unknown speaker: It's definitely a no spank you. Uh, but I don't hate I don't hate it as much as Rubber Face.

[40:08] Jesse McAnally: I know it has no.

[40:09] Unknown speaker: You hated Rubber Face more?

[40:11] Unknown speaker: I did, but I found Rubber Face deeply more sexist and it made me more angry. This one just made me annoyed with all the musical numbers, but it didn't offend me as much as Rubber Face did.

[40:23] Alan Seales: But this one is so much more blatantly misogynistic.

[40:27] Unknown speaker: It is. It's very both of these are misogynistic, but I just really didn't like watching a woman be fat shamed for 45 minutes.

[40:36] Jesse McAnally: Fair point.

[40:37] Unknown speaker: I didn't like watching a guy get fat shamed for 45 minutes.

[40:40] Jesse McAnally: I didn't like that either. And Yogi Haberdaddy didn't do nothing wrong.

[40:45] Alan Seales: I was just imagining watching this movie like drunk and just laughing at how the musical numbers are going on a little too long. So I hate it only slightly less than Rubber Face, but I still hate the book. So it's definitely a no spanky.

[40:58] Jesse McAnally: You know what? Fair enough. Um, but I still think Rubber Face is number one in the overall ranking.

[41:04] Unknown speaker: I know you have a dissenting voice.

[41:06] Jesse McAnally: No, no, I think Rubber Face is still number one. I'm just saying I could I would might maybe one day get really drunk and watch this movie just because I'm bored.

[41:13] Alan Seales: You know what? I'd probably get drunk and watch Rubber Face. I need to be able to hear what I'm watching.

[41:22] Unknown speaker: The audio on both of these.

[41:26] Alan Seales: Hopefully in the future, um, for what we've got coming up. And sadly, maybe not with um, the sex and violence family hour and all in good taste.

[41:36] Unknown speaker: Oh my god, that was the worst out of the three of them so far. That where you can't hear. Spoilers. Can't hear anything.

[41:42] Alan Seales: Anyway, can't wait to talk about that.

[41:44] Unknown speaker: Yeah. No idea what order we're gonna release these episodes in. So maybe this could be talked about it. Maybe you already know our thoughts there. Um, Alan, this was so much fun. Promote your other stuff for the world to see.

[41:56] Alan Seales: Yes. Uh, also on the Broadway Podcast Network, you can find The Theatre Podcast with Alan Seales, my solo show, and my co-hosted show I guess I'm podcast Polyamorous. Um called Well, that's not the name of my podcast, but that would be a good podcast. Podcast Polyamory. Yes. So, Jess, I have a co-hosted show with you, and I also have a show with my friend Heather Vickery called Was It Chance. That was the longest explanation ever.

[42:22] Jesse McAnally: Yes, The Theatre Podcast was a chance, Broadway Podcast Network. Boom, there you go. Your turn.

[42:26] Jesse McAnally: All right, um, I host Musicals with Cheese on the Broadway Podcast Network with my good friend Andrew DeWolf. I also host the Dear Friends Podcast on the Proud Podway on the Broadway Podcast Network with Emily Clark and Christy Esterly. Um, two very fun podcasts that I love doing so much. Um, but if you'd like to follow us all over, we're on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher at CarriedAway with Jess and Alan. We're on Twitter at CarriedAwayPod and Instagram at the same ID. Shoot us an email.

[42:53] Alan Seales: Fuck me.

[42:51] Jesse McAnally: Shoot us an email at carriedawaypodcast@gmail.com. Our title card was created by the amazing Grace Aki. Go follow them on Instagram at shit, it's Grace Aki. This show is produced by the amazing Elizabeth Eston. Thank you very much, Liz, for doing this. Our theme song is I Choose You by the band Thanks. Thank you, band for thank Thank you, thanks for letting us use that. That's gonna be a very difficult sentence to get out of thank you, thanks.

[43:19] Alan Seales: Um, thank you to the Broadway Podcast Network for having us on the platform and for not kicking us off for fat shaming Yogi Haberdaddy.

[43:26] Jesse McAnally: All right. Anything else we have left to say?

[43:28] Alan Seales: I believe we got it.

[43:31] Jesse McAnally: All right, and also hashtag justice for Yogi Haberdaddy. Um, daddy. Habadaddy. Justice for Yogi Haberdaddy. We should be doing better. Hashtag shot through a potato. Hashtag shot through a potato, hot hashtag Club Med experience. All right, we'll see you next time.

[43:48] Alan Seales: We'll see you next time on the Carrey'd Away podcast.