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[0:14] Jesse McAnally: Hello, I'm Jesse McAnally.

[0:16] Alan Seales: Hello, I'm Alan Seales.

[0:17] Liz Eston: And I'm Liz Eston.

[0:18] Jesse McAnally: And welcome to Carrey'd Away.

[0:28] Alan Seales: How are you all doing today?

[0:30] Liz Eston: I'm very I'm exhausted.

[0:32] Alan Seales: I'm very tired.

[0:33] Jesse McAnally: Me too.

[0:34] Liz Eston: Mercury's in Gatorade again.

[0:36] Alan Seales: Everything's messing up.

[0:38] Jesse McAnally: I like that one.

[0:39] Liz Eston: Um Mercury's in the microwave again.

[0:42] Alan Seales: That means I get to be a bitch whatever I want.

[0:45] Liz Eston: No, it's retrograde, motherfucker.

[0:47] Jesse McAnally: Taylor Swift released the new album, so I can be a horrible person now.

[0:51] Alan Seales: Is that what happened? Is that why she's trending?

[0:54] Liz Eston: Yeah, she released an album that according to Pitchfork isn't as good as Peppa Pig's album.

[0:58] Alan Seales: But ouch.

[1:00] Jesse McAnally: I mean, but was this unexpected? Is that why everything's like wow?

[1:03] Liz Eston: Yeah, she kind of dropped it out of nowhere.

[1:06] Alan Seales: As much out of nowhere as you can. Um what is it?

[1:08] Liz Eston: It's The Tortured Poets Department.

[1:11] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[1:11] Liz Eston: And she uh she unexpectedly released a double album, so um It's seven hours long.

[1:16] Alan Seales: Yes.

[1:17] Liz Eston: And it's all just shit she jotted down into her notes.

[1:24] Jesse McAnally: Wouldn't it be great to be in 1830 without the racism?

[1:28] Alan Seales: How do you know these things already?

[1:31] Liz Eston: We're perpetually online.

[1:32] Alan Seales: We well.

[1:33] Jesse McAnally: Alan, we're not healthy people.

[1:35] Alan Seales: I'm on Twitter 80,000 times a day.

[1:38] Liz Eston: I'm t Twitter.

[1:39] Alan Seales: I didn't know that was still existing.

[1:41] Liz Eston: Yeah, it's called X.

[1:43] Alan Seales: No.

[1:44] Liz Eston: X, and I'm addicted to it.

[1:45] Alan Seales: It's a problem.

[1:45] Jesse McAnally: I just put three of them next to each other, so it's XXX.

[1:49] Alan Seales: Oh, yeah, the rise of Xander Cage, my favorite movie.

[1:49] Liz Eston: Xander Cage.

[1:54] Alan Seales: Well, since there is a new Taylor Swift album, I'll just add it to Taylor Swift's discography on the Broadway Podcast Network landing page for Taylor Swift, which exists only because Musicals with Cheese covered.

[2:04] Jesse McAnally: We did it!

[2:05] Alan Seales: We are the champions, my friends!

[2:09] Liz Eston: I watched three hours of a concert for not free!

[2:14] Alan Seales: Oh no, gosh.

[2:16] Jesse McAnally: Um, yes, uh this week, in case you haven't picked it up by our very subtle hints.

[2:22] Alan Seales: We are talking about the last three seasons of In Living Color.

[2:26] Jesse McAnally: You look at the alert season three, four, and five.

[2:30] Alan Seales: I thought we I thought we'd talk about Taylor Swift.

[2:50] Liz Eston: Let's take a trip and sip upon a tree. Glad with the guide on a funky scene. Here comes another one of those Cornell More Money Shows, a castle laugh, but the last three seasons of In Living Color are more interesting behind the scenes than they are in front of the camera.

[2:54] Jesse McAnally: In front of the camera, they they kind of spin the wheels. There's no really brand new characters for Jim to play. There's no recurring bits. A lot of people are just kind of doing the things that they were used to doing in the first two seasons.

[3:15] Alan Seales: Men on cinema. The only new cast member really worth talking about for most of this, um, is Jamie Fox, who does make a name for themselves and does kind of become the new breakout star that they kind of latch on to and promote and sell the t-shirts of until the end of the show.

[3:32] Jesse McAnally: Frustrations behind the scenes, cancellations, and eventual um total ending of the show post syndication, as well as fighting the network, just led to these last few seasons not living up both as far as audiences go and as far as creativity goes.

[3:49] Alan Seales: So, if you don't mind us going into this, uh a little bit history, um, and a lot of my sources for my history is coming from uh Jane for short, uh wonderful video essayist on YouTube, so check that out.

[4:00] Jesse McAnally: So, season three, they're kind of still building up momentum, and they hit their peak and immediate downfall mid-season three with the Super Bowl show.

[4:10] Alan Seales: Um, a live show because that only exists because Fox wanted to get the rights to the Super Bowl that year, and they did not.

[4:18] Jesse McAnally: So basically, as a big F you to the network that got it, they said, Well, you're everyone's gonna come to us during the halftime show because we're gonna do a live show of In Living Color and get everyone. And god damn it, it worked.

[4:29] Alan Seales: So many people turned off the Super Bowl during the halftime show. They kept a countdown of when the show was coming back, and they wrote two sets of jokes for whoever was in the lead when the halftime show happened.

[4:40] Jesse McAnally: But they also fucked up hardcore here, because since it is live, you can improv things and you can't cut it. And one of the big improvisations was a joke about Richard Gere having a gerbil up his butthole.

[4:54] Alan Seales: Um also implying Carl Lewis was a homosexual as well.

[4:58] Jesse McAnally: There's a lot of stuff.

[4:59] Alan Seales: Yeah, a lot happened when that men on football. But the main thing is the uh Richard Gere one, because it kind of turned what was just kind of a very light joke that no one really believed into fact as far as the pop culture was concerned with this.

[5:14] Jesse McAnally: And speaking of football, let's bring back that Joe Namath. I mean, I'd never forget the time when he put on those pantyholes on National Television. It must have taken so much courage for him to come out and say, This is me, this is who I am. Call me Broadway Joe, because that's how I do it.

[5:28] Alan Seales: The Broadway.

[5:30] Jesse McAnally: Time up. Now you got to reverse that call. Joe Namath is married. Hello.

[5:35] Alan Seales: Well, so is Richard Gere.

[5:37] Jesse McAnally: And you should have seen that German in the wedding dress.

[5:49] Alan Seales: And with that came a lot more pressure from the studio Fox at the time to censor their show and be much more on top of Keenan Ivory Wayans than they were previously for the rest of that season and all of season four.

[6:03] Jesse McAnally: You know, it's like the in their in their world, everybody is gay. So he does this joke about Carl Lewis, and the censor is he is on the button, and he can you know we had a uh a 30-second delay. So he could have hit that button, but for some reason he didn't.

[6:23] Alan Seales: And it aired. Carl Lewis was livid, uh, wanted to sue. And uh uh I think the there was an apology letter that went out to him and all eventually, um, causing a rift between Keenan Ivory Wayans, his cast, his writers, and all of those, until mid-season four, he leaves the show in protest, resignation, and the rest of the actors followed through their contract, and the writers could either choose to leave with him or stay.

[6:52] Jesse McAnally: So there was a big kind of exodus of people. And at that same time, this is where Jim Carrey comes in. Let's talk about him for a moment.

[6:59] Alan Seales: So he's basically playing the game and doing whatever he says, because, you know, team player, all that. Um, and he just felt frustrated by Keenan Ivory Wayans in season three to four.

[7:11] Jesse McAnally: One point, after one of his sketches was cut, for a read through, Jim Carrey decided, you know what? I'm going to say all my lines of this read through out my ass like a ventriloquist. And that apparently got Keenan Ivory Wayans so angry, and Jim Carrey, in response, decided, fine, anytime I'm on screen with a Wayans sibling, I'm gonna wear sunglasses, uh, in response.

[7:35] Alan Seales: And then the Wayans brothers started doing that in response to Carrey, and that became a sign of uh basically uh solidarity and fight against the power. Um, and that's why in Kenny Ivory Wayans last episode, the December Christmas episode, when Jamie Foxx is singing at the end, you see all the Wayans siblings wearing sunglasses in solidarity with their brother who is basically ousted.

[8:00] Jesse McAnally: And all this stuff is happening, and as soon as Kenny Ivory Wayans leaves, Jim Carrey loves it, and he's d feels a lot more empowered to have a lot more sketches. Um, and he agrees to renew his contract for a fifth and sixth season if he's allowed to take time off to shoot The Mask.

[8:15] Alan Seales: And during this time he was writing Ace Ventura and all that, so he's about to have his big 1994 year, which we'll go into because oh my god, that year is unprecedented still to this day.

[8:25] Jesse McAnally: Um and he for a prospective sixth season, he was the only cast member still signed on.

[8:31] Alan Seales: So they just didn't do it. So that is the behind the scenes drama of In Living Color season three, four, and five, and season five is bad television because it had no idea what it was.

[8:46] Jesse McAnally: Whereas the season three, four, one, two, all had an identity and a group of people that wanted to be there. And that is the rise and fall of In Living Color and why its cultural lasting isn't quite as much as other things from the same time.

[9:01] Alan Seales: Now, as far as the sketch quality goes, it's more of the same. What'd you guys think?

[9:06] Liz Eston: Yeah, that's all the time we got today.

[9:08] Jesse McAnally: I think we can uh wrap.

[9:10] Alan Seales: No.

[9:11] Liz Eston: Um we just wrap it up.

[9:13] Jesse McAnally: See episode.

[9:13] Alan Seales: I mean, that's good information. I think that contextualizes things a lot.

[9:16] Liz Eston: I I had more fun, uh, not more fun. I'm not okay. Let me let me back up. I'm not saying that episodes three, four, and five were bad. Not at all. It's it it would just be like trying to go back through multiple seasons of SNL or any other series and just talk about the same thing.

[9:33] Alan Seales: Like, it's good. I like the boundaries it pushed. I like the characters it introduced that are still referenced to this day without people knowing where they came from. It's it's very cool.

[9:44] Liz Eston: Uh but yeah, I mean, to do a whole new episode, a whole new episode on In Living Color. I'm glad well, I'm glad we decided, whoever made whichever one of the two of you made the executive decision to to not do three more episodes instead do this one episode on the remaining seasons. Thank you.

[10:00] Alan Seales: So we don't have to keep watching it. Again, not that I don't enjoy it, it's just a lot of the same.

[10:05] Jesse McAnally: I think it was my initial idea, but Liz approved it, and I knew the well the moment I knew that I'm like, I can't do three more episodes of this, was the Richard Simmons Jim Carrey episode in season three.

[10:17] Liz Eston: Oh, is uh season four is where he's in that one sketch, not that season three.

[10:22] Alan Seales: Oh god. Season three is where he's fat shaming women and all this as Richard Simmons. And I'm like, I don't I don't think I I can handle this for three more episodes, sincerely.

[10:27] Liz Eston: Season five of In Living Color vividly reminded me of my experience watching season six of Glee.

[10:38] Alan Seales: This is true.

[10:40] Liz Eston: Um So I watched I watched Glee when it aired, I stopped air. When is Aaron? I stopped around season four when Cory Monteith died and I stopped caring.

[10:49] Alan Seales: So I went back to it in the pandemic because I was sad, and what else were we gonna do? Watch Glee? So I did.

[10:55] Liz Eston: And I got to season six, and most of the cast left, and they introduced like eight new people they're supposed to get me to like, including Billie Eilish's brother.

[11:04] Alan Seales: That's not even a joke.

[11:05] Liz Eston: Billy Eilish's brother was in season six of Glee as a main character.

[11:08] Alan Seales: Yeah, Phineas.

[11:09] Liz Eston: He was a main character.

[11:10] Jesse McAnally: Me?

[11:10] Alan Seales: Yeah, you're gonna get some glee.

[11:13] Liz Eston: Alan says that's me.

[11:14] Alan Seales: That is.

[11:15] Liz Eston: Have you ever seen you on the red carpet?

[11:16] Jesse McAnally: You look like you.

[11:17] Alan Seales: He looks just like you, man.

[11:18] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[11:19] Alan Seales: What do I know?

[11:20] Jesse McAnally: I didn't know I was on Glee.

[11:21] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[11:21] Jesse McAnally: But it just reminded me of that because it's like the show has 13 episodes, Glee has 13 episodes that get me to like these people and to want to keep going, and they just get abruptly canceled.

[11:30] Alan Seales: It's like, wow, I didn't like any of these people. Good job.

[11:36] Jesse McAnally: Or like the ninth season of Scrubs.

[11:38] Alan Seales: Or that where they replaced the entire cast.

[11:41] Jesse McAnally: What was a show that you thought was incredible that just got abruptly canceled?

[11:46] Alan Seales: Never resolved. Unfortunately, my answer to that is usually Firefly, but I disregard that now due to Josh Wheaton's, um, who he is.

[11:52] Jesse McAnally: Pushing Daisies.

[11:56] Alan Seales: I have the final two through four episodes or something on DVD that were never released.

[12:01] Jesse McAnally: Are they good?

[12:02] Alan Seales: Are they good?

[12:02] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, they wrap it up a little bit.

[12:03] Alan Seales: I don't know. I don't know what happened. I don't remember why they were never released, but they were made and never released, and I don't even remember how I got them.

[12:08] Jesse McAnally: I'll have to dig them up.

[12:09] Alan Seales: Um, or Sentham.

[12:11] Jesse McAnally: Brian Fuller sent him mega upload.

[12:13] Alan Seales: Uh, but oh, isn't my Brian Fuller a creep now too?

[12:16] Jesse McAnally: Now that I think I'm gonna go.

[12:17] Alan Seales: Oh, is Brian Fuller a creep?

[12:18] Jesse McAnally: I don't know.

[12:19] Alan Seales: I think, yeah, I think so.

[12:20] Jesse McAnally: My two that I desperately want more seasons of are The OA and Sense8.

[12:26] Alan Seales: You picked two shows that don't exist now.

[12:28] Jesse McAnally: What is the, what, OA?

[12:30] Alan Seales: Okay.

[12:30] Jesse McAnally: Oh, I know Sense8 was the Wachowski m show, right?

[12:35] Alan Seales: And Sense8, uh, sorry, The OA was written by Brett, uh, what's her name, who, um, great, great young writer.

[12:43] Jesse McAnally: Um, it was, uh, I think it's just too smart. And it was on Netflix, and they had like a whole cliffhanger for season one, and then it just never came back.

[12:50] Alan Seales: Oh yes.

[12:52] Jesse McAnally: Also, Brian Fuller was sued for creating a toxic work environment on a show called Queer for Fear, um, and like allegedly sexually harassing just like, okay, yeah, he's a creep.

[13:01] Alan Seales: Dang it!

[13:02] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, why, why, why does everyone who has power turn out to be a creep?

[13:06] Alan Seales: I don't know. Jess, are you a creep?

[13:08] Jesse McAnally: I don't know. At this point, I gotta cancel myself.

[13:11] Alan Seales: Wait, does that mean you have power?

[13:13] Jesse McAnally: Um, yeah, I have power.

[13:15] Alan Seales: Like my electricity's on.

[13:16] Jesse McAnally: Oh, okay.

[13:19] Alan Seales: Funnier than most sketches.

[13:21] Jesse McAnally: And in Living Color.

[13:23] Alan Seales: Um, so Alan, uh, those are your two. I guess Pushing Daisies. See, my other choice is another Brian Fuller show. I loved Hannibal, but I really wanted them to do, uh, Silence of the Lambs.

[13:32] Jesse McAnally: Oh yeah, they never got to it.

[13:35] Alan Seales: All right, well, okay. Oh, I have one that isn't made by a creep. Uh, the one they had a time reboot that died way too fast. And then it went on a network I couldn't access.

[13:44] Jesse McAnally: So I couldn't even watch the last season.

[13:46] Alan Seales: Which was what?

[13:47] Jesse McAnally: Uh, Pop TV.

[13:48] Alan Seales: Um, I couldn't access it easily from my cable or whatever, so I didn't get to watch it.

[13:53] Jesse McAnally: If In Living Color moved to Pop TV and CISO, would you watch it?

[13:58] Alan Seales: No.

[13:59] Jesse McAnally: I have it for free and I don't watch it, Alan.

[14:02] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[14:02] Jesse McAnally: Okay, fair. I mean, what about all the cut sketches?

[14:06] Alan Seales: Oh, the cut sketches.

[14:06] Jesse McAnally: Well, there we go.

[14:07] Alan Seales: Yeah, yeah.

[14:08] Jesse McAnally: There is a, do as Jess mentioned, the massive censorship that occurred after the Super Bowl episode. The number of cut sketches on average per season tripled basically.

[14:18] Alan Seales: Why is the Super Bowl mess it up for everybody?

[14:20] Jesse McAnally: Isn't the Super Bowl what introduced a seven-second delay?

[14:23] Alan Seales: Well, n yes, and they were on a six-second delay, and that's why Keenan Ivory Wayans is like, you made the call, Fox. Um, you were the ones that let that error, and if you had a big problem, you, you were the last call.

[14:35] Jesse McAnally: Um, and the strange thing is it brought so many viewers to them, and that was the problem is viewers got offended by what they saw.

[14:43] Alan Seales: So it's double-edged sword. More eyes is a good thing, but more eyes gets more critiques.

[14:48] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. But also there is the greater issue from the previous episodes you discussed where the music videos aren't on the DVDs due to copyright issues. That is still a problem that we're contending with.

[15:05] Alan Seales: Single one platinum bigger than Marley and Jimmy and Yellowman, but I'm not even Mulatto. My rig is watered down. Give me on the radio, think I could not be blacker. But on my video, you see, I'm really a cracker. Pretending I was a Rasa since I was in jammies. I should pay my base and stop better than I'm right. And you can criticize me all the way to the bank. My single novel on and Shaba don't rank. Time one, uh, kick dicey off the label, puts it in the cops. The data just ain't right. But when a Caucasian man records a copet and song, they don't have a problem.

[15:35] Jesse McAnally: That's what, that's why the music videos are all good. But did you want to watch a music video for me, a Miso Horney parody called We Want Maury?

[15:45] Alan Seales: No, you didn't.

[15:46] Jesse McAnally: No, but for completion's sake, I would think that it would be like, you know, I, I, I don't know. But the, um, the Michael Jackson parody was funny.

[15:56] Alan Seales: I wrote a love song to a rat and then a guy nose job and changed my chin and made my skin light.

[16:11] Jesse McAnally: Oh black am I black or white?

[16:15] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[16:16] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[16:16] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[16:16] Jesse McAnally: I mean, yeah, there's a couple things in there that I'm like, oh, all right, there's some humor here. It's good, it's good, it's good.

[16:22] Alan Seales: I, I, there is some interesting things that are talking about topical things, which as a fan of this 90s nostalgia was interesting. Like the Pee Wee Herman mugshot, um, famous, uh, thing that Jim Carrey does. As well, a lot of sketches that I know no other sketch show would talk about was about the LA riots, which were very big at the time, and, uh, it does contextualize it a lot and brings, puts us into a wholly new space and a wholly new point of view, um, that we tend to forget about of this time.

[16:58] Jesse McAnally: Um, as well, romance bloom behind the scenes where two, um, cast members got married, um, from meeting the show. Um, and it was Kelly Cofield and Steve Park.

[17:09] Alan Seales: Oh, yeah, who Steve Park was a brand new, uh, for season four.

[17:14] Jesse McAnally: Season three, season three.

[17:15] Alan Seales: He was only on season three.

[17:17] Jesse McAnally: Season three, and he would go on to marry Kelly Cofield, who was a mainstay of the show until basically everyone else left.

[17:23] Alan Seales: Um, that's what I hate about season five. There's no Kelly Cofield.

[17:27] Jesse McAnally: It does feel empty without her, and she is needed. Like a lot of them are needed.

[17:32] Alan Seales: Um, I also, there are some things I like about when Keenan Ivory Wayans left, though. I like what that the a new cast member says goodbye and hello every week.

[17:41] Jesse McAnally: That's neat.

[17:42] Alan Seales: It kind of makes it feel a lot more like a collaborative thing instead of just a Wayne's brother project.

[17:46] Jesse McAnally: Um, and that's it. I said it. That was it.

[17:50] Alan Seales: You know, um, and we haven't brought up Jennifer Lopez, who is a fly girl.

[17:56] Jesse McAnally: That is true. She was a fly girl for two seasons.

[18:01] Alan Seales: You know, she's fine. She's one of the dancers.

[18:04] Jesse McAnally: Rosie Perez really does stand out though. Like she has to do the introduction for every musical guest.

[18:09] Alan Seales: Um, and I'm like, hey, it's Rosie Perez. She's the choreographer too.

[18:13] Jesse McAnally: And she, her acting career is still going to this day, and she's one of my favorite actresses of all time.

[18:18] Alan Seales: And it's weird to just see her being like, and now here's the bell.

[18:22] Jesse McAnally: She's also a director on the show.

[18:24] Alan Seales: Yeah, she directs, she's directed a few ep, quite a few episodes.

[18:28] Jesse McAnally: Awesome.

[18:28] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[18:28] Jesse McAnally: She gets cooler the more I hear.

[18:30] Alan Seales: Yeah, I was digging through the directors to make a list, and it was just the same as season two, but Rosie Perez got added.

[18:35] Jesse McAnally: So I love Rosie Perez.

[18:40] Alan Seales: If there's anything that I think this show has brought about or watching the show has made me appreciate better, it's how much I love Rosie Perez and how many of these other cast members haven't done that much since then.

[18:53] Jesse McAnally: Um, David Alan Grier and Rosie Perez are obviously the two biggest shining stars in this one.

[18:58] Alan Seales: They are their go-to on both as far as the Fly Girls go and the casting crew goes.

[19:04] Jesse McAnally: Um, as far as cast, I think he is consistently the MVP every season.

[19:08] Alan Seales: Like I, oh, but was that on?

[19:10] Jesse McAnally: No, no, no, I, I was gonna agree. I'm looking up like an In Living Color cast. Where are they now?

[19:15] Alan Seales: Yeah, Keenan Ivory Wayans has a career, Damon Wayans has a career.

[19:19] Jesse McAnally: Jim Carrey, never heard of that guy.

[19:21] Alan Seales: Yeah, fuck that guy.

[19:23] Jesse McAnally: Oh, James, James Eugene Carrey.

[19:25] Alan Seales: Yes, he is UG.

[19:27] Jesse McAnally: David Alan Grier, Kim Wayans was the, was just so talented.

[19:32] Alan Seales: Or she is.

[19:33] Jesse McAnally: Is talented.

[19:33] Alan Seales: Yes.

[19:34] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[19:34] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[19:34] Jesse McAnally: She left the series after the fourth and fourth season, only made a few small film appearances, popped up on TV more frequently, starring in In the House, taking guest parts on Marlin Boomerang and the Emmy Award winning a black lady sketch show.

[19:47] Alan Seales: There was a spiritual successor to In Living Color.

[19:50] Jesse McAnally: Oh, yeah, yeah. I, yeah, I could talk about that if you go for it.

[19:54] Alan Seales: Okay, so in 2011, they attempted to make a reboot of In Living Color. Um, they filmed a pilot, and it was hosted and, uh, produced by Keenan Ivory Wayans.

[20:06] Jesse McAnally: Um, so they had a cast and they had Fly Girls. I actually have names to read off.

[20:11] Alan Seales: So our reported cast members included Cooper Barnes, Jennifer Bartels, Sidney Castillo, Josh Duvendick, Germaine Fowler, who we know now, um, Ayana Hampton, Callie Hawk, and Little Rel Howrie.

[20:25] Jesse McAnally: Oh, he would have been in addition. There was also Henry Cho, Melanie Minicino, and Chris Liedeker, Light Lydekirk, and the Flygirls were, uh, Christina Chandler, Tara Perez, Lisa Rothens, Rosenthal, Katie Sheen, and Whitney Wiley.

[20:42] Alan Seales: And this kind of just didn't come to fruition. It's due to behind the scenes stuff. Keenan Ivory Wayans just said it didn't really work out in the end. It was canceled and Fox didn't see it as a sustainable act to air.

[20:52] Jesse McAnally: Um, but it ended up becoming the truTV show, Friends of the People.

[20:58] Alan Seales: They don't want the next Cosby show.

[21:00] Jesse McAnally: From right, I said we drive this entire fing network into the ground.

[21:05] Alan Seales: Wait.

[21:05] Jesse McAnally: What y'all got in mind?

[21:07] Alan Seales: Look, I was thinking, right? What about a black nerd?

[21:10] Jesse McAnally: But there aren't black nerds nerds.

[21:12] Alan Seales: No, duh. That's the point, man. So when we add one to this TV show, it'll be so terrible, every executive will lose their jobs too.

[21:19] Jesse McAnally: What?

[21:26] Alan Seales: But other streaming services that what?

[21:30] Jesse McAnally: An interesting asterisk to all that. While they are putting together that revival, you know what show is being produced right above them for their first season as they're working on this.

[21:40] Alan Seales: Key and Peele.

[21:41] Jesse McAnally: Whoa.

[21:42] Alan Seales: Which would eventually, I think, become a very big spiritual successor to Chappelle's Show, which was a superior, uh, successor to, uh, In Living Color. Though we don't agree with Dave Chappelle's, uh, uh views on, uh, anything queer, just to be clear.

[21:55] Jesse McAnally: No, no, no, that's not an endorsement. We don't endorse Dave Chappelle's views.

[21:57] Alan Seales: You can see the influence, and even Dave Chappelle was very much on the set of In Living Color during the last few seasons and tried to be a cast member for that fifth season, um, and didn't get in.

[22:08] Jesse McAnally: So he was very much influenced in that, and you can tell Key and Peele was very much influenced by Dave Chappelle.

[22:13] Alan Seales: And we're currently getting sketch shows that are on the internet that I can see a lot of influence from Key and Peele on.

[22:20] Jesse McAnally: And Key and Peele now, um, Jordan Peele is influencing horror culture forever, and we will never go back.

[22:26] Alan Seales: No, no, it's just so strange to me. I mean, in a cool way, it's unexpectedly strange, and I'm here for it.

[22:32] Jesse McAnally: We're eventually gonna have to talk about Jim Carrey's foray into horror, um, or at least his attempt.

[22:37] Alan Seales: Wait, we're not talking about Christmas Carol, right?

[22:40] Jesse McAnally: No, we're talking about Joel Schumacher's The Number 23.

[22:43] Alan Seales: I love The Number 23.

[22:45] Jesse McAnally: Oh boy.

[22:46] Alan Seales: We're gonna get into some quality content. Stick one with us, guys! Like, I grew up watching it.

[22:52] Jesse McAnally: I can't. It's nostalgic. It's nostalgic for me. I have stories about The Number 23 I will tell from my childhood.

[23:01] Alan Seales: Isn't that gonna be fun?

[23:02] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, you guys can't see me, but my DVD for The Number 23 is actually displayed on my bookshelf right now.

[23:07] Alan Seales: I see it right now.

[23:08] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, he's staring at you. Um, I tell you, Alan, you know who we should give for that episode?

[23:14] Alan Seales: Who did Ramin.

[23:17] Jesse McAnally: He worked with Joel Schumacher. I can have some insights.

[23:21] Alan Seales: Joel's directing process.

[23:23] Jesse McAnally: Alright.

[23:24] Alan Seales: Alright. I'll send Ramin a little message. See if he's fun.

[23:28] Jesse McAnally: Come on.

[23:29] Alan Seales: Yeah. I know we're just gonna be able to do that. He's doing something at Encore's, right? Or Kennedy Center or something coming up.

[23:34] Jesse McAnally: Isn't he?

[23:35] Alan Seales: No, no. Ramin's always...

[23:36] Jesse McAnally: Oh, he's working on the hardest working.

[23:37] Alan Seales: He's a busy man, the busiest Canadian I've ever seen.

[23:40] Jesse McAnally: Except for Jim Carrey.

[23:41] Alan Seales: Hey, they got that in common. You see, that he's a Canadian?

[23:45] Jesse McAnally: No, he's Iranian.

[23:46] Alan Seales: Oh, okay. Where did Ramin grow up?

[23:49] Jesse McAnally: Ramin, Carrey.

[23:50] Alan Seales: There we go.

[23:51] Jesse McAnally: He grew up in Tehran.

[23:53] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[23:54] Jesse McAnally: There you go. Speaking of growing up in Toronto, how about we compare our opinion to those?

[23:59] Alan Seales: Not Toronto.

[24:01] Jesse McAnally: Tehran.

[24:02] Alan Seales: Nope, Toronto.

[24:04] Jesse McAnally: Tehran.

[24:05] Alan Seales: Toe.

[24:06] Jesse McAnally: No. Wait, didn't Ramin live in Toronto?

[24:08] Alan Seales: Yeah, he came through Canada, yes.

[24:10] Jesse McAnally: Oh, so according to Wikipedia, he's gonna be the Pirate King in Pirates of Penzance in 2025.

[24:14] Alan Seales: Wait, is he gonna be the Pirate King?

[24:16] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, he is! He has gonna be the Popeyes.

[24:17] Alan Seales: That's gonna be so funny.

[24:19] Jesse McAnally: He already is funny.

[24:21] Alan Seales: Okay. Uh, Letterboxd.

[24:23] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[24:25] Alan Seales: Alright, this is the last Letterboxd for In Living Color, which means last time to explain the weirdness that is this.

[24:31] Jesse McAnally: So In Living Color, as mentioned before, is not on Letterboxd in any regard. So we've entered the world of Amazon product reviews to give these boys something to guess.

[24:43] Alan Seales: So I have scoured the world of In Living Color season three, In Living Color season four, In Living Color season five, and the DVD box set of all five of them. Someone give this lady a Webby.

[24:57] Jesse McAnally: So I swear to God, it would be more offensive if I won a Webby than being anything.

[25:02] Alan Seales: Yeah, same.

[25:03] Jesse McAnally: I also did all of this while watching After Midnight on my second monitor. Love After Midnight. Shout out to Taylor Tallinson for making that process a lot more tolerable.

[25:12] Alan Seales: In college, I had a coax PCI card.

[25:16] Jesse McAnally: Nerd.

[25:17] Alan Seales: And I would plug my coax cable into my computer so I could watch literal cable TV on my computer.

[25:25] Jesse McAnally: Before the internet, fellas.

[25:26] Alan Seales: Wow. I had an internet TV in college, and when I needed to write essays, I'd put on American Vandal season one or two and write the essay.

[25:34] Jesse McAnally: I've seen American Vandal 80 times.

[25:38] Alan Seales: What? When did you find your porn back then in the ye olde 1850s when you grew up?

[25:44] Jesse McAnally: I don't know what you're talking about. I've never looked at said poon.

[25:48] Alan Seales: Is that that's the word you said? The funny thing is in the first four or five episodes of this podcast, we literally watched porn and you...

[25:50] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, yeah, now you're denying it. You're denying that you've never seen porn, even though it's on record.

[26:01] Alan Seales: You have seen Sex and Violence Family Hour.

[26:04] Jesse McAnally: If you're joining us, other things above it. If this is your first episode of Carrey'd Away with Jim and Alan, uh, Jim and Alan.

[26:11] Alan Seales: Just in Alan.

[26:13] Jesse McAnally: Okay. I'll fight you.

[26:20] Alan Seales: If this is your first episode, I was gonna encourage you to go back and listen, but now don't go back and listen to the previous ones because it'll contradict me.

[26:27] Jesse McAnally: I'll contradict myself.

[26:28] Alan Seales: Alright, Letterboxd. So I dove into the world of Amazon product reviews, and I picked the ones or the fives or the lows or the highs. Uh, it's none your business what the actual ratings were. I do what I do. Uh, get off my back. Don't grade my paper.

[26:43] Jesse McAnally: And I gathered the best of, and I'm gonna make these two guess if they're good or bad based on very little context.

[26:50] Alan Seales: So the answer is one or five.

[26:52] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[26:53] Alan Seales: Alright. Um, Jess, I am. Alan, you're first.

[26:56] Jesse McAnally: Not since Jess said yes I am. Seals of approval. Here we go.

[27:00] Alan Seales: Alright. Oh, I like that.

[27:02] Jesse McAnally: Ooh, that's good.

[27:03] Alan Seales: That's good. Alright, Alan.

[27:05] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[27:05] Alan Seales: Jess. Product arrived in a timely manner. Condition of the product was as described.

[27:11] Jesse McAnally: Mmm. That is factually correct. I'll give that a five.

[27:14] Alan Seales: That is right.

[27:15] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[27:16] Alan Seales: Yes. Can't wait to get out to Letterboxd and actually trick you guys, because these are hard to trick you with. Factually correct. Product as described. Three and a half stars.

[27:24] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[27:25] Alan Seales: Newly sealed DVDs. Thanks.

[27:27] Jesse McAnally: Five.

[27:28] Alan Seales: Yes. This review ironically came in yesterday.

[27:31] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[27:32] Alan Seales: Newly sealed DVDs.

[27:33] Jesse McAnally: Newly C D V D. What's the hashtag WTF? Who has a DVD player?

[27:36] Alan Seales: I do.

[27:38] Jesse McAnally: I'm looking at it right now.

[27:39] Alan Seales: I have a Blu-ray.

[27:41] Jesse McAnally: I have a Blu-ray burner.

[27:42] Alan Seales: That's why.

[27:41] Jesse McAnally: I do too. Because I have to burn make a movie someday.

[27:45] Alan Seales: That's true. Your wife will never know, Greg.

[27:46] Jesse McAnally: Alan.

[27:48] Alan Seales: Yes, I am.

[27:49] Jesse McAnally: I must have been drinking too much when this show was on the air.

[27:53] Alan Seales: I must have been ooh. Ooh, ooh. That could go either way.

[27:57] Jesse McAnally: Cause like I must have been drinking too much.

[28:00] Alan Seales: Or I must have been drinking too much. I'm gonna go with a one.

[28:04] Jesse McAnally: That's correct. You They were too drunk to realize it was bad, apparently.

[28:09] Alan Seales: I mean, I feel like that's mostly the reason why SNL has lasted so long.

[28:14] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[28:14] Alan Seales: True. There were so many drugs.

[28:16] Jesse McAnally: Oh, there's so much coke.

[28:18] Alan Seales: So much coke.

[28:18] Jesse McAnally: Cocaine.

[28:19] Alan Seales: Alright. Jess.

[28:21] Jesse McAnally: You've seen a one none of that shit. Seals of approval. Bought this for my brother's 50th birthday. He has a cabin in the woods and watches a lot of movies with his hunting buddies. This fits the bill.

[28:31] Alan Seales: Yes.

[28:33] Jesse McAnally: I just like that review. I knew it was obvious, but I just liked it.

[28:39] Alan Seales: I probably would have gotten one on that thinking you were tricking because we've had so many fives already.

[28:44] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. So glad that one went to Jess.

[28:47] Alan Seales: Alright. Alan.

[28:48] Jesse McAnally: I don't think anyone should have a five-star rating on this show. Most of them are fives, and most of them are like this show is great.

[28:54] Alan Seales: And that's the entire thing.

[28:55] Jesse McAnally: Or you mean this podcast?

[28:57] Alan Seales: Oh, yes. Yes, I'm ready.

[28:58] Jesse McAnally: We got two five stars. One of them may be me, but it's okay.

[29:02] Alan Seales: I'm confused after reading all the reviews. Is Wanda on season three or not?

[29:11] Jesse McAnally: Yes, she is.

[29:13] Alan Seales: One.

[29:14] Jesse McAnally: Correct.

[29:16] Alan Seales: Yes.

[29:18] Jesse McAnally: I'm confused. Where's Wanda? Me watching Fairly OddParents.

[29:22] Alan Seales: Jess.

[29:23] Jesse McAnally: All DVDs worked fine and are fantastic to watch.

[29:28] Alan Seales: That's a five.

[29:29] Jesse McAnally: That's a one.

[29:30] Alan Seales: Damn it! I have a slight lead.

[29:35] Jesse McAnally: Alright, Alan.

[29:36] Alan Seales: Jess I seals.

[29:39] Jesse McAnally: Not seals of a Jess.

[29:42] Alan Seales: Jess I seals. Not sure what's going on with that, but I didn't appreciate the Groundhog Day feeling.

[29:50] Jesse McAnally: Of going over.

[29:52] Alan Seales: Okay, one.

[29:52] Jesse McAnally: That is right.

[29:54] Alan Seales: Yes. Alright. Jess, you have lost, but you can get a point.

[29:56] Jesse McAnally: I have lost. I'm ready to lose.

[29:59] Alan Seales: Very helpful and great service.

[30:01] Jesse McAnally: One!

[30:02] Alan Seales: Okay, you didn't get a point.

[30:03] Jesse McAnally: Alan.

[30:04] Alan Seales: Yeah!

[30:05] Jesse McAnally: I am the loser, my friend!

[30:12] Alan Seales: I wonder how many times I've sung that song specifically.

[30:15] Jesse McAnally: Um, I three times at least.

[30:18] Alan Seales: Hey guys, uh, but we wrap this on up. Thank you.

[30:21] Jesse McAnally: Alright, Krusty the Clown. Let's do our outro. All of In Living Color as a whole. What are we rating it as an already then or a no spank you? And what was your favorite sketch? I think that's just a good way to wrap this on up.

[30:35] Alan Seales: Oh, that's hard. Do you want the list? I have the list.

[30:38] Jesse McAnally: No, I want him to think.

[30:40] Alan Seales: I want him to think. No cheating.

[30:41] Jesse McAnally: The best sketch, that's hard. I like to do favorite character, and I have to go. Okay, I'm gonna start because I'm already talking. Uh, I'm gonna go with an already then, because, uh, and to answer your other question, I still, uh, like my fondest memories are Fire Marshal Bill.

[31:03] Alan Seales: Let's check. You're getting ready to chirp up some of this shiny she urge. You're high on MHT. Somebody chess, look, there's Chairman Mao showing everybody his Gen Chang road. You gotta salute him.

[31:20] Jesse McAnally: Next thing you know, you look like Shakuusto in a trauma unit. Take care of that for me, will you son?

[31:30] Alan Seales: And that is not just because we're on the Jim Carrey podcast, but I really like that character. He was always just causing shit.

[31:35] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, but every one of his sketches are the same.

[31:40] Alan Seales: Yeah, it gets really redundant. Hence the Groundhog Day one-star review.

[31:44] Jesse McAnally: Like which makes sense. Yeah, like the amount of times I see Fire Marshal Bill with his head decapitated is kind of ridiculous at this point. He's become Jason Voorhees in the later part of the series.

[31:54] Alan Seales: I would catch it off and on the show when I was a kid, uh, in real time, and I think I watched it so irregularly that it never got repetitive to me.

[32:03] Jesse McAnally: That's, I mean, that's kind of the way it was made to be done. Like, this is not how this is not a show made to be binged.

[32:10] Alan Seales: You don't binge-watch a sketch comedy show.

[32:14] Jesse McAnally: Let's sit down and watch all 45 seasons of SNL.

[32:18] Alan Seales: That's a different market. Like there is a joy of rewatching and sitting down and binging. Um, I think you should leave.

[32:26] Jesse McAnally: That's the one.

[32:27] Alan Seales: Yeah, but I think you should leave is kind of a different animal. The cast is like ever-changing. Tim Robinson is the main, but like the cast is always evolving because there's not a main cast.

[32:41] Jesse McAnally: Don't hate the players. Hate the cast.

[32:43] Alan Seales: Yeah, uh, Tim Robinson would be a dream guest. I can tell. I can tell he's very inspired by Jim Carrey in most of his work.

[32:50] Jesse McAnally: Um, what about your worst sketch, Alan?

[32:53] Alan Seales: Like worst sketch altogether. Oh gosh. You can do worst character too, if that's you gonna go that format. I mean, like something that didn't age well is, uh, not Homie the Clown. Is it hom um is it Homie the Clown?

[33:04] Jesse McAnally: Who's mentally challenged?

[33:08] Alan Seales: Handyman, that's what it is. Yeah, that didn't age so well. Yeah, during my watch through, I got really sad because Jim Carrey was in a handyman sketch and I couldn't skip it. I was like, damn, I can't skip this one.

[33:24] Jesse McAnally: That's so fat, Dr. Naughty! It looks like the shoe is on the other clump foot. How could this be possible? The cripple art. Haven't you learned? Never underestimate the powers in the handicap. Swallow him in the triple pack.

[33:47] Liz Eston: Don't remember the visit to Alamo.

[33:52] Jesse McAnally: Of course, you have a man.

[33:56] Alan Seales: Tell him to the judge, Dr.

[33:58] Liz Eston: Naughty.

[33:59] Jesse McAnally: I like Handyman.

[34:01] Alan Seales: I didn't like Handyman.

[34:02] Liz Eston: I agree with you. Um, Liz, what about you? Any sketch that stands out to you as your favorite?

[34:05] Liz Eston: Uh, they're kind of all starting to blend. I'm gonna I'm gonna give it already then, obviously. It's solid. Like there's nothing really wrong with the show. Some of it doesn't hold up, but it's all good. Overall, like as a show. Like, experience it on YouTube and the snippets, you can get it, because it's not really anywhere easily accessible. Um, it's pretty great that every episode's on YouTube, though. I'm scrolling through the list. I guess I guess I'm gonna go with Charles Bronson's make a death wish one. Because I just think it's really funny to me an entire sketch about the death wish franchise.

[34:39] Jesse McAnally: Wow, Froggy Land amusement park! This is gonna be fun.

[34:42] Alan Seales: Not so fast, little guy. Cost 35 dollars getting here.

[34:48] Liz Eston: I don't have $35.

[34:52] Jesse McAnally: Yay! Pun scum.

[34:55] Alan Seales: He is a 45. You can keep the change.

[35:01] Liz Eston: Hey, mister, you wouldn't shoot Freddie the Frog, would you?

[35:04] Alan Seales: Of course not.

[35:08] Liz Eston: Take that! You won't face lily pad sucking Ted poor and molested and Kermit Wanda B.

[35:17] Jesse McAnally: Um, but I I like Fire Russian Bill, he girl with one of redundant. Uh, but like I I also go with that. My least favorite is probably it's a very hard tie between Vera Demilo and Ugly Wanda.

[35:31] Liz Eston: Uh I hate them both. An equal conjecture. And I know Jazz like thinks ugly Wanda is a more developed version of Vera Demilo, as he mentioned before we recorded.

[35:41] Jesse McAnally: But I'm just a little better. He's a lot, she's a little better, but that doesn't make her good.

[35:56] Alan Seales: That's the only way you can be freaking Sue. Why are you tripping? You know I got you. You ain't got to go nowhere. I have you. So why are you tripping, huh? Why don't you just relax and take this, Sue? Come on, don't you want to bump Uglies?

[36:11] Liz Eston: Bump ugly. Bump Uglies?

[36:14] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. Honey, it looked like you took ugly face on.

[36:18] Alan Seales: First of all, why are you tripping like that? You know I'm your love beast.

[36:21] Liz Eston: Love beast, huh? I just don't like the character, and I I just hate watching it. No offense, JB Fox. I just like don't like the character of Ugly Wanda. Mostly because her name is Ugly Wanda.

[36:33] Jesse McAnally: But I love how confident she is. And I like I also like that she's confident, but the issue is the joke is undercut because she's constantly called Ugly Wanda.

[36:43] Liz Eston: Can we just call her Wanda? Until she meets Ugly Luther and they fall in love.

[36:48] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, but then Ugly Luther left the cast midway through, so then that undercut.

[36:52] Alan Seales: Yeah. Yeah, that's another thing. A Wayne's brother joined the cast in season four, and then when Keenan left, he also left, so he didn't even get a full season. Pretty wild the behind the scenes of In Living Color in those final days.

[37:04] Liz Eston: I'm gonna mostly go with Vera Demilo and also Handy Man. Uh Handyman also sucks.

[37:12] Jesse McAnally: Hi! I'm world-famous bodybuilder, Vera Tamila. A woman like me gives off many special scents. Especially after a grueling afternoon of deep power squats.

[37:33] Liz Eston: That's why I'm here to promote my new fragrance. Vera. Why work as hard as I do when you can just smell like it.

[37:44] Alan Seales: Oh! Good gallery! That fragment should have smelled to it from it to me.

[37:50] Liz Eston: I mean, if it's my fault, woman, how come I like it so much?

[37:54] Jesse McAnally: Because it smells like a sweaty guy.

[37:56] Liz Eston: Oh, shut up. Mine is gonna be an under oh, it's an already then. Like the show is the show, and you know, it's highs are high, the lows are very low.

[38:05] Liz Eston: Um, but mine is such a very dear to my heart choice. Um, and mine is the Ted Turner Colorized Classics recurring bit. Jim Carrey plays Ted Turner. Because like I for the context, Ted Turner was going around colorizing black and white films that he just bought the rights to throughout the 80s and 90s, and it was like all about film preservation.

[38:27] Jesse McAnally: And they're making a joke on it that only living color can make about colorization meaning replacing the characters with black people, which is a great bit.

[38:37] Liz Eston: And you get a good excuse to like go back to old films and like revision. It's very smart and very much my film lover vibe, and I love those.

[38:48] Jesse McAnally: Hello. I'm Ted Turner, and welcome to Ted Turner's Colorized Classics. Now the colorization of these films may not agree with some people's artistic sensibilities.

[39:04] Liz Eston: But they're mine. And I can do anything I want with them.

[39:11] Jesse McAnally: I just found a way to add even more color. Of all the job joints in the world, she had to bring a big button to mine.

[39:22] Liz Eston: I really love the, you know.

[39:24] Jesse McAnally: And why not? She's the only woman I ever met that looked as good as me.

[39:33] Liz Eston: You guys picked all the worst ones, but there's just like I I don't love men on.

[39:38] Alan Seales: Uh that too.

[39:39] Liz Eston: Men on anything. It's it's the the joke wore thin season one, and at this point it just felt like hate speech.

[39:46] Jesse McAnally: There's like it just felt very like uh there's also a weird one where they made one of them straight, and then he got like knocked around the head the entire sketch, and then he became gay again.

[39:57] Liz Eston: Like, I don't like what? It's not my cup of tea.

[40:04] Jesse McAnally: Um, and I didn't want to ape off your guys, but I did want to say men on outside of hated it, which is a fun thing to say, not much of value was lost if we didn't have it.

[40:16] Liz Eston: Public access channel 96 presents men on fitness.

[40:23] Jesse McAnally: Hello, I'm Blaine Edward.

[40:26] Liz Eston: And I'm Antoine Merriweather.

[40:28] Jesse McAnally: And welcome to Men on Fitness. We have looked at lots of different workout tapes, but none of them really work for us.

[40:35] Liz Eston: Like that one that Cindy Crawford work out.

[40:38] Jesse McAnally: Hey, hated it. They should have called it Cindy Crawfish.

[40:43] Liz Eston: He also ruined the show, basically, because of the Super Bowl.

[40:47] Alan Seales: Yep. Yep.

[40:48] Liz Eston: Um Thanks, Blaine Edwards. Yes, I remember one of their names.

[40:53] Alan Seales: Drama. Alright. And speaking of Dram, um, thank you guys for listening. Please follow us on iTunes and Spotify carried away with just now.

[41:03] Liz Eston: Why don't you leave us a little review?

[41:07] Alan Seales: Transition.

[41:08] Liz Eston: F minus on saying the word transition.

[41:12] Alan Seales: That's not even the worst transition he's ever done. I've heard many.

[41:15] Liz Eston: That's like uh B minus at worst.

[41:17] Alan Seales: Plus for him.

[41:19] Liz Eston: You're great me on a girl curve, yeah.

[41:21] Alan Seales: Yeah. Okay. Alright. So, where are we listening?

[41:24] Liz Eston: Leave us a review on iTunes. Let us know how you think we're doing.

[41:29] Alan Seales: And also, I am simulcasting these episodes on the Musicals with Cheese feed because I want more people to listen.

[41:34] Liz Eston: So check them out there too. Um we're on Twitter at Carried Away Pod, Instagram Carried Away Pod.

[41:38] Alan Seales: Email us at carried away podcast at gmail.com to tell us how wrong we are about men on cinema.

[41:43] Liz Eston: Table card was created by Grace Aki. Follow them on Instagram at It's GraceAki.

[41:48] Alan Seales: The show is produced and edited by Elizabeth Eston. Fantastic work, Liz.

[41:52] Liz Eston: Our theme song is I choose you by the band.

[41:54] Alan Seales: Thanks. Thank you to the Broadway Podcast Network family on the platform and for not kicking us off this week.

[41:59] Liz Eston: You know, for the Super Bowl live show we did.

[42:02] Alan Seales: Um I was very way with Justin Allen, the Super Bowl live show. Wouldn't that be the most unwatchable thing on the planet?

[42:09] Liz Eston: I yeah, it w We'll be handing out tomatoes to all the the goers.

[42:09] Alan Seales: The the goers, the ticket goers, the football goers.

[42:17] Liz Eston: Is Taylor Swift nothing but an exaggerated football goer if we really look about this?

[42:22] Alan Seales: Um no, she's no, she's like actually a football fan.

[42:25] Liz Eston: She actually watches like an actual e she watches football like an Eagles fan.

[42:29] Alan Seales: Yeah, but is that not a football goer?

[42:31] Liz Eston: Yeah, no, but you're saying that like derogatory.

[42:33] Alan Seales: No, she's like legitimately enjoys football.

[42:37] Liz Eston: Okay.

[42:38] Alan Seales: I don't think it was derogatory. I think even the biggest fan is just a football goer.

[42:41] Liz Eston: Okay, that's bad. Just a football goer. You hear that football goers? Write in, let us know each other. Come at me.

[42:46] Alan Seales: Come at me, man.

[42:49] Liz Eston: I don't think many football goers are listening to the Broadway Podcast Network, but okay.

[42:53] Alan Seales: You never know.

[42:54] Liz Eston: Hey. You know what? You should just put one sports show on BPN and just see if the numbers what the numbers do.

[43:01] Alan Seales: What? Like what what kind of sports show should we do?

[43:03] Liz Eston: Let's see. Uh well, you it's ever we like they'd have to change race on what the sport is.

[43:08] Alan Seales: Currently.

[43:10] Liz Eston: Yeah, like just on sports.

[43:11] Jesse McAnally: Just on sports in general, like sports talk.

[43:14] Liz Eston: And they just do drafts, like fantasy football drafts, but for every sport in the season.

[43:18] Alan Seales: What if two people who wrote who who knew sa knew sports wrote all the notes, gave all the information to two hosts who never knew anything about sports and don't know anything about sports, and they had to improvise a whole episode every episode.

[43:31] Liz Eston: Okay, that makes reminds me of there used to be a female basketball tournament with like a lot of female comedians, and they did a podcast where two guys that know nothing about basketball had to commentate on it as it was happening.

[43:44] Alan Seales: So like Aubrey Plaza and things are like actually playing basketball, and they're like, and they're going, oh, they're going that way, and uh and just making jokes about what's going on.

[43:54] Liz Eston: So it would probably be something like that.

[43:56] Alan Seales: Well I made a whole documentary about it. I don't remember what any of this is called, but I know it exists.

[44:01] Liz Eston: That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.

[44:04] Alan Seales: We'll see you next time on Carrey'd Away with Justin Andrew.

[44:07] Liz Eston: Alan.

[44:07] Alan Seales: What we'll see you next time on Carrey'd Away with Jim and Adam.

[44:17] Liz Eston: With Jim and Andy and the great beyond.

[44:23] Alan Seales: We'll see you next time on Carrey'd Away with Justin Allen.

[44:26] Liz Eston: Bye, kids.

[44:28] Alan Seales: What? What's my fake name?

[44:30] Liz Eston: Larry.