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[0:13] Jesse McAnally: Hello, I'm Jesse McAnally.

[0:16] Alan Seales: I'm Alan Seales.

[0:17] Liz Esten: And I'm Liz Esten.

[0:19] Jesse McAnally: And welcome to Carrey'd Away, the world's premier Jim Carrey podcast, where we explore the filmography of the rubber-faced Canadian actor film by film and show by show.

[0:28] Jesse McAnally: And welcome to our first episode, as I like to call it our episode with training wheels.

[0:34] Liz Esten: I like that.

[0:35] Jesse McAnally: We have our podcasty training wheels. Alan, I feel like we should talk about our respective histories with Jim Carrey, considering as we go on, we'll probably have to talk about our guests' respective histories. So why don't you go first?

[0:46] Alan Seales: Oh my, um, I've never met the man.

[0:50] Jesse McAnally: I know, yet.

[0:52] Alan Seales: Yet.

[0:53] Alan Seales: I know, uh, he and Heather Locklear, right? They did a thing for a while, right?

[1:02] Jesse McAnally: The relationship thing. Is that the first fun fact you have about Jim Carrey is that he dated Heather Locklear?

[1:10] Alan Seales: I don't know why when I think Jim Carrey, I think anti-vaxxer, but it's because of Heather Locklear.

[1:17] Jesse McAnally: No, no, it's Jenny McCarthy.

[1:19] Alan Seales: Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[1:20] Jesse McAnally: Jenny McCarthy. Wow, we're starting on a big swing.

[1:24] Alan Seales: Jenny McCarthy, I get Jenny and Heather confused a lot, because I don't care about either of them for what it's worth.

[1:30] Jesse McAnally: Fair enough, fair enough. But no, Jenny McCarthy, um, got him into the anti-vaxx territory. And I think it's a good thing to state in our very first episode that while we are talking about his work and all that, we are not putting him on a pedestal, nor saying that we endorse him or his political views.

[1:49] Alan Seales: Or his art for that matter as far as that's concerned.

[1:54] Jesse McAnally: I don't know. Talking through your anus is taking art to a whole new level.

[2:00] Alan Seales: It's very dotist. Um, but what, like you were born, you're an 80s kid, aren't you?

[2:05] Alan Seales: Yes, I was born in '80.

[2:07] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, so you got to watch the meteoric rise of Jim Carrey, the 1994 year that really defined him.

[2:15] Alan Seales: I did. I did. I love, uh, he sort of came out of nowhere after I watched him, uh, in Living Color, right? So inappropriately, his Fire Marshall Bill is still, uh, iconically burned in the back of my young mind.

[2:36] Alan Seales: Um, you know, just hire Shandan. Like everybody of my generation knows that phrase. And then going from there, like The Mask was iconic. It was a breakthrough in CG, I believe. And so, like, from the nerdy technical standpoint, that had me interested in him because I was just paying attention to the tech behind that movie.

[3:00] Alan Seales: And then from that point, because we have that trajectory of Ace Ventura, then Dumb and Dumber, then The Mask, and then it just kept going. And then '95 you have Batman Forever, which if you think about that, like one big year to like that kind of role. It's unprecedented today.

[3:18] Alan Seales: And I think he was given the highest pay rate of any actor alive in 1997 with The Cable Guy with the 20 million dollar deal for just one actor.

[3:18] Jesse McAnally: But The Cable Guy, I don't know how you feel about it, and we're gonna get into The Cable Guy. We got a lot of movies to talk about though.

[3:36] Alan Seales: Oh my god. Yeah, we'll get there. You have a few years to get through.

[3:39] Jesse McAnally: That is the only movie in my life I have ever walked out on.

[3:43] Alan Seales: Oh my gosh. Was The Cable Guy? That's crazy.

[3:46] Jesse McAnally: Why though? Like it was so obnoxious. And I haven't watched it since, but I'm looking forward to going back to watch this, to watching it again as an adult because I have so many friends, and from the look on your face right now, it seems like you do not agree with my initial reaction.

[4:05] Alan Seales: So I'm looking forward to going back to figuring out if this is worth, uh, you know, if I prematurely judged it as a whatever 15, 16-year-old, whatever I was. But talking about personal stories, Dumb and Dumber.

[4:19] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[4:19] Alan Seales: Had my first kiss in that movie.

[4:21] Jesse McAnally: Ooh.

[4:22] Alan Seales: Not was it during the diarrhea scene?

[4:24] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, is it during the loud noise scene?

[4:27] Alan Seales: I don't remember much of the movie because I was like, oh, this is kissing. Okay. Is it really supposed to be this wet? Alright, I'll go with it.

[4:37] Jesse McAnally: You did the whole mouth over top of their mouth kind of thing.

[4:41] Alan Seales: No, she did the mouth over top of my mouth sort of thing. So, like literally just like clamped over your mouth kind of kiss.

[4:47] Alan Seales: Yeah, yeah. And it got better. I have to say it got better. But yeah, that first one I was, I will never forget, Dumb and Dumber in the movie theaters, and that's, you know, that it's a big thing. I mean, you know, some people are critical romantic. We say I don't judge.

[5:08] Jesse McAnally: I don't judge. What is your history, Jeff?

[5:12] Alan Seales: So I was born in 1995, the year after his big year. So I kind of entered into the world where he was already kind of like a figure in it. So I think my first time watching him properly was the TV edit of Liar Liar. My grandmother was babysitting. She's like, here, here's a movie that I think a child might like. And of course, it's a guy who's just ramming his head into the walls and screaming all the time. A child would love that. And I believe I was four at the time.

[5:41] Jesse McAnally: So that was as enchanting as it can. Then about four months later, we saw the Jim Carrey Grinch adaptation in theaters, and that for a lot of people in our generation, I know a lot of folks did not like that movie for very valid reasons. It was like a cultural milestone that everyone just saw and was able to quote very easily.

[6:02] Alan Seales: My kids just discovered that version and they seem to like it.

[6:06] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, it is dark, but I feel like a lot of adults didn't view through the mind of a child watching something that's a little edgy and just was like, oh, how dare they with Dr. Seuss.

[6:15] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[6:17] Jesse McAnally: I mean, Seuss purists are gonna hate on anything like that.

[6:22] Alan Seales: Yeah, but we got two Seuss adaptations in our coverage that we're gonna have to do eventually.

[6:27] Jesse McAnally: Yep.

[6:28] Alan Seales: And I will look forward to watching them both. But Liz, very quickly, what is your history with Jim Carrey?

[6:34] Liz Esten: Uh, well, I believe I watched, I saw the Grinch, his Grinch on ABC Family with my cousins, and I hated it because I'd seen the animated one 15 times and I thought it was sacrilege and it made me mad. I didn't like Jim Carrey for a while.

[6:52] Liz Esten: He offended my childhood. It's like when Andrew Lloyd Webber adapted my favorite movie into a bad musical, like I was just very offended for a very long time. But then I watched, oh, School of Rock.

[7:01] Jesse McAnally: Oh, okay.

[7:01] Liz Esten: But then I watched, uh, 30 Rock and I saw him as Leap Dave Williams.

[7:10] Alan Seales: Leap Dave Williams, yes.

[7:11] Liz Esten: One of the best. And then I watched, uh, a bunch of other ones of those other movies. I watched The Number 23, which is my favorite guilty pleasure thriller movie, because it's so stupid.

[7:23] Alan Seales: I have not seen that one before. I'm excited because I know that's a good one. My sister was obsessed with it to the point where she would point out number 23 things in my own home when we were younger. It was really funny. Just like we see point things to my dad's like, that's 23.

[7:39] Jesse McAnally: Like, oh god. Let me show this to my child.

[7:42] Liz Esten: He's good when he's good and when he's bad, he's in Rubberface.

[7:44] Jesse McAnally: Well, that's a great transition.

[7:46] Alan Seales: Great transition.

[7:48] Jesse McAnally: Let's travel back in time to the year 1981, the year that Pope John Paul II was shot twice. Kevin Klein won the Tony for Pirates of Penzance. Sandra Day O'Connor was elected the first woman onto the Supreme Court. And of course, Jim Carrey started a little film called Introducing Janet.

[8:06] Alan Seales: But it will be later retitled Rubberface.

[8:10] Jesse McAnally: He was a struggling comedian, Tony Moroni, waiting. I want to be in showbiz for the right opportunity. Two weeks from now, we're having another Battle of the Buffoons right here at Giggle. It's gonna be my first step to start with all the wrong jokes. And what did she get? Hot what? Thank you very much. You guys have been great. Get some of your material going before. Maybe you can help me somewhere between stage fright. I could never go on stage. I'm scared too. And friendship. I'd like you to help me with my routine. They discover what makes people laugh. You should be looser, more relaxed. What are you trying to say? When the people laugh, it's the sweetest sound you could ever hear. Jim Carrey, in a hilarious performance, help me prove I have a friend is Rubberface.

[9:04] Alan Seales: You've got to make it. Um, so he was very young when we did this in Canada. Um, so it was originally titled Introducing Janet and aired on the Canadian Broadcast Channel in 1981. It was written by Nada Harkourt and Michael Jean, which are two of the most Canadian names I've ever heard. Directed by Glenn Salzman and Rebecca Yates.

[9:27] Jesse McAnally: The plot of Rubberface, aka Introducing Janet, is a funny schoolgirl, Adah Glassbourg, becomes friends with a stand-up comedian called Tony Moroni, Jim Carrey, who is struggling with his career. So it's obvious that they just retitled it and then re-released it as if Jim Carrey was the main character of this film much later on.

[9:49] Alan Seales: Wait, so this was Introducing Janet?

[9:53] Jesse McAnally: Introducing Janet, yes.

[9:54] Alan Seales: Introducing dot dot dot Janet.

[9:56] Jesse McAnally: Janet.

[9:58] Alan Seales: So, okay. Alright, there are so many things. And you know, this is made in 1981, it was released in 1981.

[10:05] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[10:06] Alan Seales: And I was like, when I was watching this, I was thinking, oh, you know what? Like, it's 1981. Technology wasn't so great. Maybe people just didn't really have a good understanding of words in 1980.

[10:18] Jesse McAnally: Words.

[10:18] Alan Seales: Right, to like put a script together coherently. And I looked up other things that were written in that were also released in 1981. And like this little movie called Raiders of the Lost Ark was released in 1981. And oh, there's Dinner with Andre. That was a good one. Porky's.

[10:43] Jesse McAnally: Yes, yes, but were those all made in Canada? Let's pretend that this, like, are we putting us on the same quality as a George Lucas film or a TV made film in Canada?

[10:56] Alan Seales: Mad Max 2.

[10:58] Jesse McAnally: Okay. This movie is 45 minutes.

[11:02] Alan Seales: Yeah, but that seems, is that a Canadian thing, like to do movies, I put in air quotes, that are under an hour?

[11:08] Jesse McAnally: I think it's like a movie of the week thing. Like, do you remember in the old days when they had like the Wonderful World of Disney where they'd hire just any director to do something just so that they could put something on the networks?

[11:20] Alan Seales: Yes.

[11:20] Jesse McAnally: Yes. Or they'd buy up some indie film. Um, I think, uh, Steven Spielberg's first film was just a movie of the week that he directed, and I think it was called Duel. Like he was, that's how people got their start.

[11:31] Alan Seales: So this was supposed to jump start this big old vanity project for a young woman called Elda Glasborn, who we've never heard of again, and the only reason why anyone revisits this vanity project is because Jim Carrey became a big star afterwards.

[11:46] Jesse McAnally: And he's not even the main character when you can hear them speak at all.

[11:51] Alan Seales: Like this, uh, the audio quality, I mean, uh, story aside, Jim Carrey aside, I feel like an old man, and maybe this is just me, you know, my 80-born self. I'm like, eh, I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. And I'm so I'm like turning up the volume, and then I get blown out by the next line. I'm like, yeah.

[12:12] Jesse McAnally: I will say the work isn't, they didn't put the work into the audio mix. They barely put the work into like the filming of it.

[12:19] Alan Seales: Um, writing.

[12:21] Jesse McAnally: Yes. But this was produced by the Canadian Broadcasting Company and Cineflix. Um, it aired in Canada in the year 1981 in Jim Carrey's very first starring role. Um, the reviews around it were pretty bad, and nobody really saved those, but it was forgotten very quickly until the VHS rights went up in around 2001, and they just put Jim Carrey's face all over it.

[12:45] Alan Seales: Do you mind if I read the tagline that was on the VHS?

[12:48] Jesse McAnally: Please.

[12:49] Jesse McAnally: Please do. I know what it is. So it's Jim Carrey's big old head from the one publicity still they had of the film, and his hair does not look right, it just looks incorrect. Um it is big head, thin skin, numb skull. Which does not equate to the film that happens in front of us. And this is the DVD cover. It's horrible. It's horrible. The one publicity still they had. That's the what yeah, the one still they had, get him off the stage. And he yeah, he's it's not even about him. This movie isn't about him at all.

[13:25] Liz Esten: If you were the original actress, would I guess would you be happy or not?

[13:30] Jesse McAnally: That's a good one. I'm gonna go with general, it's getting some uh some re-release, some exposure again. I can see her contempt for him while making the film. Like, cause there's a good chunk of this that I feel like is improved, and where the text of the movie is supposed to imply that she is better at comedy and general performance than he is. However, the action of them doing performance, he is blowing her out the water, and she has active contempt on her face for the fact that he's blowing her out of the water.

[14:03] Liz Esten: So you think it was just method acting?

[14:06] Jesse McAnally: They uh that's how they were off-screen. I think that's it, because there's that scene where they just put on the hats and they go off riffing one another, and he has like 50 voices, and she's got two, and then she keeps going and she's just like, yeah, that's good. There's a point where he keeps changing hats and she keeps the same hat on for like multiple cutaways because she had nothing else.

[14:29] Alan Seales: Grandma, you've changed.

[14:34] Jesse McAnally: I am Tony from Deris.

[14:38] Alan Seales: That's Paris, Tony.

[14:42] Jesse McAnally: I am how you say very soris. There's a lot of moments like that where he's just being big and she's like, I got nothing. Wait, did did he go? He went method for uh when he was Andy Kaufman, yeah.

[14:58] Alan Seales: Yeah. But was that the only time?

[15:01] Jesse McAnally: Um, that's the only time he's admitted to. I'm sure he would try to do different things. But how about we go through the plot of introducing Janet or Rubberface? Um we start off with not just one, but dueling alarm clocks.

[15:16] Alan Seales: Fuck you, film school. We'll start with as many alarm clocks as we want to start our story.

[15:23] Jesse McAnally: Yes. So Janet is this young girl being constantly fat shamed by her mother, despite her not being very big at all, but she keeps insisting that she is.

[15:33] Alan Seales: No, she she is an attractive woman. Uh, and couldn't pa maybe maybe this is just I was gonna say couldn't pass for a high schooler, but I I don't remember what high schoolers look like in 1981, so I don't know.

[15:47] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, like it's the strangest thing. So her mother is this newscaster, or I wouldn't even she's not reporting the news, she's supporting whatever thoughts come onto her head on Canadian television.

[15:59] Alan Seales: We live in one of the most out of shape societies in the world. And I think it's time we set a better example for our children. Teens are sad. Can we talk about it? And can we fix it? How do we fix it?

[16:13] Jesse McAnally: We're gonna fix teen sadness by talking about one woman's fat shaming of her daughter.

[16:20] Alan Seales: Yes. Um ten years later, Fox News makes sense. Lee it leads right down to that road.

[16:25] Jesse McAnally: Exactly. Then we go to j follow Janet into her high school, which might have the most Canadian human beings I've ever heard. Or it's like, hey, do you think she'd rather watch the tube than go to a party? I don't know about that. Uh no, I gotta watch TV. You're nuts. How can you stay home when you could be out partying? Because I boogey with my sony. See ya. Bye. Do you think she'd really rather watch the two? Maybe she didn't get an invite.

[16:58] Alan Seales: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so soy.

[17:02] Jesse McAnally: Okay. And then she has to go and her tour class, and the most beige man alive asks her to read a poem called My Bubble. Which then prompts her to recreate the end of Ten Things I Hate About You and sob in front of her entire class.

[17:19] Alan Seales: Jesse, please.

[17:21] Jesse McAnally: So it was a trailblazer. Describe what happens in that scene. Describe that poem for me, Alan.

[17:28] Alan Seales: Um she she is very reluctant. Uh, because you they're setting her up uh up until this moment, the filmmakers are setting her up to be the funny one, the jokester, the the life of the party. Like, hey, look, it's come down. Like, I'm sorry. And then this is the moment where she's like, I don't, I don't want to read it. I can't read. And they're like, and then Mr. Beige is like, yeah, you gotta do it. And so she gets up, and this is her moment to let us know. She's more than just her funny exterior shell. On the inside, she's sensitive, and she it's basically a very self-deprecating poem that she reads about herself and shows us and her class that she really doesn't like herself, and she's covering it up with comedy.

[18:19] Jesse McAnally: And then this point really doesn't get addressed again for the rest of the movie. People don't see me as I am, and I don't want them to. My Baba protects me. No, it does not. It is a very strangely out of place moment for the rest of it. If it's uncomfortable deeply, and none of her friends do anything about it. They're like, wow, she's having a rough day. Yeah. Oh, well, time to go to that party.

[18:45] Alan Seales: It's a boot time. Janet's gonna go watch the two by herself.

[18:49] Jesse McAnally: Well, no, she doesn't watch it too because just that night, despite no connection, she goes to like a stand-up show, like a stand-up comedy routine, and Jim Carrey wanders into the movie.

[19:01] Alan Seales: Yeah, what are what we're like 15, 20 minutes into the movie, and now Jim Carrey comes in. Jim is a waiter and just sits at this woman's table, like, hey, what's up? How you doing? I am in this. That is his introduction to cinema of one of the most important icons of the end of the 20th century. He sits at a table with a lonely woman who's apparently fat for Canada.

[19:23] Jesse McAnally: Too fat for Canada. How you doing? What's up? Jim Carrey. Um, incredibly. He's wearing like these stripes as like he's obviously in this film, he's brought it up many times, even to this day. He is big influence as Dick Van Dyke. He's wearing the Mary Poppins stripes throughout the entire movie. He steals an entire bit from Dick Van Dyke's um performance in Mary Poppins later in the movie about people's laughs. Um I think he was like, well, I got this one chance to be in a movie. I'm gonna make as many Dick Van Dyke references as I can.

[19:54] Alan Seales: Everyone loves a good dick joke, though.

[19:58] Jesse McAnally: So the everyone up at that stand-up show, every piece of anyone going up there is the worst stand-up I've ever seen. I've been watching a lot of Mrs. Maisel, and any one of them would have been booed out of there already. So we have one guy that's just saying random words, and then we have another woman that's like, I'm gonna go up there and recreate a one-woman version of the Wizard of Oz. And that's it. That's my entire set, no punchline or anything. I am Uncle Henry, Billy Bob, Betty Bob, Booty Bob. You won't believe what's happened to me, but I was in this land and the trees are talking, and the fruit was talking, and the flowers were talking, and Toto was talking too. I mean, I think she gotta go to the doctor.

[20:35] Alan Seales: No!

[20:35] Jesse McAnally: I'm telling you, true to Henry to God, Toto, you can done, god damn it, don't know! Toto decides to tell the story. Good night.

[20:55] Alan Seales: I forgot about that.

[20:56] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, that was uncomfortable. I I never figured out if these other acts were actually supposed to be funny in the movie, or if they were also supposed to equally bomb because none of it worked.

[21:09] Alan Seales: No, and then Tony's like, hey, watch me come on tomorrow, and then he does his Jim Carrey shtick, and we're supposed to react like that was bad. And I'm like nobody's laughing. But I'm like, that was ten times better than the girl that's just like, I'm gonna reenact the Wizard of Oz, and that's my act.

[21:26] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, she she did like voices, like you know, just you know, things that now you couldn't do. I mean, she was doing one voice and then claiming it was the Wizard of Oz. She had one voice. Her Judy Garland was okay. Yeah, but if you play the Wizard of Oz in every character's Judy Garland, you might have an interesting thing.

[21:45] Alan Seales: That movie that's awesome. We should make that somehow with science.

[21:48] Jesse McAnally: Um do we have to make movies.

[21:51] Alan Seales: Yeah, look at Darth Vader and Obi-Wan. That's just a computer now.

[21:56] Jesse McAnally: Well, you can get yeah, Paul Walker, his face was put up put on the on his brother to finish uh Fast Fury 7, right?

[22:04] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[22:05] Jesse McAnally: So Janet says, your routine has two minutes of good material. Let's help let me help you do better stand-up. And then for the rest of the movie, he just outclasses her in stand-up and comedy and all together. As I feel bad for poor poor Ada, who's just like outclassed in every way by Jim Carrey, who's just kind of putting around.

[22:26] Alan Seales: What do you think in from a directorial standpoint, shim was supposed to be the inferior comic in the movie, and they just couldn't find someone to cast opposite him that was better?

[22:39] Jesse McAnally: No, what I think happened was Jim Carrey is a no like probably they know each other from the club scene, like just as people, and she's like, Hey, you're pretty talented, why don't you come be in my film? And then the narrative dictated he had to be a bad comedy, comedian for so to say, and not very good at this. However, his shtick that he would just improv is just better than most of the stuff we see that's supposed to be quote unquote good. And they're like, Well, if we cut out that stuff, we just have nothing good in the movie. We just don't have anything of entertainment value.

[23:12] Alan Seales: The what you just said now about like under an hour made for TV, that makes sense, because there were specific blackouts that went on longer than they should have. And I was like, Oh, wait, I guess those were commercial breaks.

[23:24] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, you gotta go get your Nestle Crunch. Go go go buy those.

[23:30] Alan Seales: I don't know what the what what's a Canadian brand that they would sell? Ketchup chips?

[23:33] Jesse McAnally: I think that's a ketchup chips, yeah. That's Canadian. Go buy your poutine bars.

[23:39] Alan Seales: Your poutine?

[23:41] Jesse McAnally: Poutine. Poutine bars. Um this place makes Canada look very drib and terrible. But she how do how does she help Jim Carrey become a better comedian, Alan? What kind of stuff does she make him do?

[23:54] Alan Seales: Um, I honestly don't remember because I sort of fell asleep with this part.

[24:01] Jesse McAnally: Well, alright. She basically it's weird to see someone that's less good at impressions try to teach Jim Carrey how to do impressions. She's like, just do a grouch show marks, and he's like, like this, doing it significantly better. No, like this, doing it worse. Yeah, yeah, that was uh that was uncomfortable. And uh I guess. Yeah, there are moments like that, but then they try to drive in the pathos of the story by having Ada just break up with Tony because he has his own like there there is like the most crammed in second up second act breakup I've ever seen, where he's like, No, you should stand up and do things. She's like, No, I refuse. I'm done with you. Goodbye. Well, you're just as pushy as everyone else. Janet. I hope you have fun Saturday night. I hope you lose. Janet. Janet. She just storms away and he's like, I don't know what I did wrong. Rightfully so. You gotta have conflict to resolve and move past.

[25:04] Jesse McAnally: I it just felt like the movie dictated it rather than it feeling natural. Uh that was kind of the whole movie, though.

[25:10] Alan Seales: Yeah. Fair enough. Um, I'm not trying to. I'd like to point out that these writers and directors never did anything else.

[25:18] Jesse McAnally: Well, yeah. So I mean, what this is the only thing on their resume. I don't think Jim Carrey's gonna put it on his resume anytime soon when he's auditioning for Sonic the Hedgehog 9.

[25:27] Alan Seales: No, it is an addition for that. They dry to his house with the script. Here you just throw it in his face and run away and hope he reads it.

[25:39] Liz Esten: I mean, yeah, also you just don't want to catch anything from when you know he's not vaccinated.

[25:45] Jesse McAnally: So Janet leaves this strange message on her answering machine, I guess, and as weird as this sounds, it kinda reads a little like a suicide note.

[25:55] Alan Seales: It sounds like a suicide note that she just leaves for her mom to find on the bed.

[25:59] Liz Esten: I'm tired.

[26:02] Alan Seales: Putting on, taking off my costume, depending on who I'm with and what they expect of me.

[26:14] Jesse McAnally: It's very uncomfortable, and then the mother decides, you know how I'm gonna resolve the conflict of me fat shaming my daughter? I'm gonna go on TV and just say, oh, teenagers got it rough. And I'm gonna make sure that my daughter's watching us at this exact moment when I go on National Canadian TV as a reporter, whatever she is, and talks about teenage life.

[26:36] Liz Esten: I have one advantage in being an adult. That's no one puts any pressure on me to grow up.

[26:45] Alan Seales: One of the problems for teenagers is the pressures we put on them to be something they may not want to be. You know, teenagers. It's not easy to be them. At least as an adult, no one tells me I have to grow up.

[27:01] Jesse McAnally: I'll see you next week.

[27:05] Liz Esten: That's actually a decent line. If it was in any other movie, I'd actually kind of like that line.

[27:09] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[27:10] Jesse McAnally: Fair. I mean, I was a teenage girl. I get it, Janet. So I understand.

[27:14] Alan Seales: Did you try stand-up comedy?

[27:16] Liz Esten: I did not try stand-up comedy, um, because I didn't have a friend named Jim Carrey to teach me.

[27:20] Jesse McAnally: Oh, his name was Tony Moroni, so how about you fuck off right there?

[27:24] Liz Esten: His name is so stupid I refuse to call him my the entire movie. He's called him Jim Carrey.

[27:28] Alan Seales: We've got Tony Moroni coming up to her at her house in the rain, saying, I wanna be friends again. Please help me with my act. My act is bad, apparently. The movie says it's bad, and she's like, okay, I'll help you with your act.

[27:42] Jesse McAnally: And that scene bothered me visually. So we have Jim Carrey who's just generally wet, and then behind him, you have just water coming from a hose to make it look like rain. But the rain isn't getting on him because that would ruin like the mic. So it's just happening behind him. Like they poured a bucket of water on his head, and then they put him in front of some rain. Like, see, you're wet now.

[28:07] Alan Seales: Well, is that happens a lot? Put a bucket of water on and put rain in the background to just convince you he was in the rain.

[28:15] Liz Esten: Well, the thing is, if you're watching a movie, um, especially one shot at 24 frames a second, anytime there's rain, it won't pop up on screen because raindrops move at a faster pace than a frame rate. So anytime you see rain in a film, it has to be like with really big raindrops, like why they use rain machines even if it's actually raining. So anytime you see rain, you ha you know it is an intentional choice. It is never there on accident.

[28:39] Jesse McAnally: So that was literally them like, alright, how are we gonna do this? Alright. So we pour that thing all over Jim's head, and sorry about that, Jim. And we're gonna sorry. Sorry about it. We're gonna have to spray some water off the roof right there, and then we can't do any other shots of Jim. We got this one master, and that's it.

[28:59] Alan Seales: They wanted to make it romantic in an unnecessarily romantic way. Like the begging to be forgiven on your someone's doorstep in the rain is like cliche rom com sort of stuff.

[29:13] Liz Esten: I don't think I've seen two leads with less chemistry in a film in a very, very long time. I feel like they both just did not care for one another as human beings on set, and it just read as that.

[29:27] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. Or she just gives a different kind of vibe that she wouldn't be interested in Jim Carrey for many reasons. You know, this big goofy, lumbering, lanky man that's not taking anything seriously.

[29:38] Alan Seales: Well, unlike other movies that we will discuss subsequently. Yeah. This there was no sexual undertone at all anywhere in this movie. This was all just about trying to be, yeah, trying to be funny, like out funny one another.

[29:54] Liz Esten: And it to your point earlier, they're supposed to be helping each other, but it's just Jim Carrey trouncing anybody else he's in a scene with because he chews all the scenery, that is Jim Carrey. And sometimes that works to his advantage. And most films know to use Jim Carrey wisely. If you can since he radiates all that energy, everyone else has to be the straight man. And that falls right on his face because in Batman Forever, Tommy Lee Jones is trying to match that energy, and he falls right on his face the same way that poor Ada does in this movie.

[30:31] Jesse McAnally: Mm-hmm.

[30:32] Alan Seales: So you gotta have the Courtney Cox that's just gonna be like, I'm gonna be super serious next to you while you do your weird ace Ventura thing. As long as you take yourself seriously next to him, that yeah, you don't you don't try to compete with that. You don't you don't get next to a comedy legend and try to be equally legendary.

[30:52] Liz Esten: Well, we can't quite he was a little boy back then, little baby boy, little little Canadian nobody, um, hasn't become the big big sensation he's gonna be. Um, but that brings up an interesting question. Do you think any other Jim Carrey film in his filmography, he has a believable relationship with a woman, aside from Eternal Sunshine, which is the outlier that proves the rule.

[31:15] Jesse McAnally: Well, you were you took that out of my mouth. That's literally the only thing I was gonna say.

[31:20] Alan Seales: Um, I think the closest is maybe The Mask, because he does kind of have to play a human being for a good chunk of that movie. Uh he gets really introspective. There's a lot, there's a lot of serious stuff he does around that same time frame that gets pretty introspective.

[31:38] Liz Esten: But it's never romantic. He never is a believable romantic lead.

[31:43] Jesse McAnally: I guess, yeah, you're right. Like I'm trying I'm trying to think like he he goes so deep in his characters that it I mean even when he's being a serious character, he's still I believe what he's doing, right? And but you're right, yeah, when it comes to the acts of love and relationships, yes, sunshine eternal sunshine's the only thing I can think of where I'm like, oh, he actually like romantically cares about this scene partner of his.

[32:11] Alan Seales: And then there's times that they try really hard, and by all logistics on the page, it should work. Like me, myself, and Irene. He was legitimately dating Renee Zellweger at the time. They have no chemistry in that movie.

[32:24] Liz Esten: No, not at all. It it's i I think it's just that the kind of energy that Jim Carrey radiates with the big movements don't really read as a romantic lead to an audience.

[32:34] Alan Seales: Well, he when you're thinking of a rubber-faced person, if they're not exaggerating their movements, then they're not being rubber-faced. They're being normal faced. And normal face, the actor, is everybody else in front of a camera.

[32:49] Liz Esten: Yes.

[32:50] Alan Seales: Well, let's wrap up this story. So Tony gets laryngitis at the last minute before his comedy routine.

[32:57] Liz Esten: And laryngitis with big quotation marks around the Larin and the gitus. Um he's like, you have to go.

[33:06] Alan Seales: Oh yeah.

[33:10] Liz Esten: Yeah, I know, but it's movies making me mad about that at a end point in the runtime scene. So Janet has to go on, and my first thought when I see her go on, I'm like, I just want her, I want there to be no arc. I want her to word for word recreate the my bubble bump she said in the beginning and cry. I want that ending.

[33:30] Alan Seales: But no, she says some old joke books that we've all heard from like joke books from the 50s or whatnot, and then she somehow kills.

[33:39] Liz Esten: My parents are divorced. I'm the product of a broken home. It's very hard on everyone. Especially me. There was a long custody battle, and it was very ugly. My father won.

[33:53] Alan Seales: Well, living with my mom isn't so bad. My mother worries about me. She's understanding and subtle, she says. Janet, you're gonna be happy, successful, and involved.

[34:11] Jesse McAnally: And like well, she starts out, yeah. She starts out really timid, and everyone's like, cricket cricket, and then at the end, they're like, oh yeah, the script says we're supposed to laugh. Okay, here we go. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

[34:23] Alan Seales: And that's kind of how it ends. Before we find out that the laryngitis was.

[34:33] Liz Esten: And he talks out of his butt, it's great.

[34:35] Alan Seales: Yeah, it's great.

[34:36] Liz Esten: Um that's but the comedy that she says up there is stuff like, oh, my parents had a divorce and it was a really bad custody battle, and my dad won.

[34:47] Alan Seales: So now I live with my mom and it's pretty good. Like, she doesn't give them the time to la there is no pause for the punchline to hit, so she kinda like she's I don't think I as much as I think she's fine, Adah Glassbourg, I don't think you're that good a comedian.

[35:02] Jesse McAnally: I don't I don't think you're gonna be able to do it.

[35:04] Liz Esten: Like delivered it like Roddy Dangerfield. Like that that's who I'm I'm thinking of in my brain. I'm like, yeah, my parents had a a really bad custody battle, and my bad won. No respect.

[35:16] Alan Seales: No respect. Funny you bring him up because you know who Jim Carrey toured with like right out of Canada the minute he moved to Hollywood was Rodney Dangerfield, and that got him into break.

[35:26] Liz Esten: Oh yeah. We'll talk about that a lot more when we get to um the Duck Factory uh in a couple episodes, because that kind of leads into how he got that role.

[35:35] Alan Seales: Um but he was basically a protege of Rodney Dangerfield. Um every week, um sorry, every night he would perform, Rodney would actually stand and watch and be like, look at this kid, he's good. Look at that face he pulled. So that was like a surrogate father to him for career wise, and basically got him his jump start.

[35:54] Liz Esten: So maybe maybe she should have gotten some advice from Rodney Dangerfield, and maybe some of her jokes would have landed.

[36:00] Alan Seales: This was way before then, way before Rodney Dangerfield then.

[36:05] Liz Esten: Yes, this is way before then, but that was how he got his start into proper comedy scenes.

[36:11] Alan Seales: True, true, true, true. Okay, I'm with you. Well, how on that note, now that we've summed up the film, how about we go into a mid-show interruption, and then we can talk about how the world reacted to this film.

[36:42] Liz Esten: So Liz, why don't you explain what we've got here?

[36:46] Alan Seales: We've got our letterbox corner, letterbox Liz in her letterbox corner. Explain the game to us.

[36:52] Liz Esten: Alright, here's the game. I got two types of letterbox reviews. Some are highly rated, some are low rated. I'd also like to clarify that only 500 people have watched Rubberface.

[37:03] Jesse McAnally: 500 boxed.

[37:05] Liz Esten: Or at least they have claimed they've watched on letterbox. Including Jess two years ago.

[37:10] Jesse McAnally: I did that.

[37:11] Liz Esten: You logged it two years ago because we're friends, and I looked it up and I saw you rated it, and I clicked it.

[37:17] Jesse McAnally: Oh, this is probably like last week.

[37:18] Liz Esten: It's like, oh no, it was two years ago.

[37:24] Jesse McAnally: I've been thinking about this podcast a while.

[37:26] Liz Esten: You've outsmarted yourself again.

[37:28] Jesse McAnally: You already gave it a rating.

[37:29] Liz Esten: Dang.

[37:30] Jesse McAnally: What was my rating?

[37:31] Liz Esten: You gave it half a star.

[37:32] Jesse McAnally: Sounds like me.

[37:33] Liz Esten: Two years ago. I think that's about right. I don't think I'd change my rating.

[37:37] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[37:38] Liz Esten: So I have some high-ish reviews and some low reviews.

[37:42] Alan Seales: So one stars and anything above it.

[37:45] Liz Esten: One stars and anything above it.

[37:46] Alan Seales: Alright. Who Alan, why don't you go first?

[37:49] Alan Seales: Alright. Alright, I'm ready.

[37:50] Liz Esten: Okay.

[37:51] Alan Seales: That's sorry. Wrong movie. Uh, here we go.

[37:55] Liz Esten: This is the longest movie ever.

[37:57] Alan Seales: For it was 40 minutes. Women aren't funny.

[38:02] Liz Esten: I'm gonna go with a one star on that one.

[38:04] Alan Seales: That is correct.

[38:06] Liz Esten: That's just objectively wrong.

[38:08] Alan Seales: Come on.

[38:09] Liz Esten: Yeah, that's not right. I mean, this wouldn't be the movie I'd show to be like, oh, let's this is Sarah Silverman quality comedy. Come on, guys.

[38:17] Alan Seales: Oh yeah. Okay. You know what? If you drop a Janine Garofalo in this lead role, I think the movie changes like incredibly. It would be an actually really good film.

[38:27] Liz Esten: Oh, totally.

[38:28] Jesse McAnally: Totally.

[38:29] Liz Esten: Or like an Alex Borstein?

[38:31] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, she's great.

[38:32] Liz Esten: Miss Beasle kind of vibe.

[38:34] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[38:35] Liz Esten: I don't think their comedy would mix, though.

[38:37] Jesse McAnally: I feel like Jim Carrey wouldn't be trampled by Alec Borstein.

[38:42] Liz Esten: Um, but like it would be like two different. It would be like chocolate and peanut butter, but maybe not in a good way.

[38:47] Jesse McAnally: I yeah, yeah, I can see that.

[38:50] Liz Esten: I can see that.

[38:51] Liz Esten: It might be like chocolate and mayonnaise. Like, I don't I like they both could work, but I don't think they'd mix together well.

[38:57] Jesse McAnally: I have put mayonnaise in a chocolate cake before, and it didn't taste half bad.

[39:00] Liz Esten: Okay, maybe maybe that's Alec Borstein and Jim Carrey. It can work.

[39:04] Jesse McAnally: Alright, what you got next, Liz.

[39:06] Liz Esten: Alright, here we go. You've never heard of this movie. The only reason it still exists is because Jim Carrey's first movie, or one of his first. If he wasn't in it, trust me, no one would be talking about it.

[39:16] Jesse McAnally: I mean, they're not wrong, but it's just accurate.

[39:19] Liz Esten: All of these just accurate. I'm gonna give that one a one star.

[39:23] Jesse McAnally: No, that's a three-star.

[39:25] Liz Esten: Oh my gosh. That's as high as these go.

[39:30] Jesse McAnally: That's as high as it goes. Let's go.

[39:32] Liz Esten: Oh yeah. There's some three and a half, but it wasn't it wasn't funny. It was just an actual review of the movie.

[39:37] Jesse McAnally: You know, this is a pretty good movie. It's not as bad as a movie. I enjoyed the comedy of it.

[39:41] Liz Esten: I'm like, what did anyone like? I enjoyed when the lady recapped The Wizard of Oz in Funny Voices?

[39:48] Jesse McAnally: I wrote that review after I watched it.

[39:53] Liz Esten: I wonder what that girl's doing nowadays. I hope she's doing alright.

[39:56] Jesse McAnally: She's hanging out with the lead of this movie trying to create a comedy career going. Listening to this podcast, like we fucked up.

[40:03] Liz Esten: We fucked up, Ada. We didn't do very good job. Shouldn't I guess somebody better than you in the in the co-starring role?

[40:09] Jesse McAnally: And then his buddy.

[40:14] Liz Esten: Joe.

[40:15] Jesse McAnally: Joe? He doesn't even know his name.

[40:18] Liz Esten: Whatever his name was. I don't even remember that guy's name. He was so stupid.

[40:23] Jesse McAnally: I couldn't sanction his buffoonery.

[40:25] Liz Esten: Tommy Louie Jones is over there now. They're all just in a bathtub drinking, talking about Jim Carrey ruining their lives.

[40:35] Jesse McAnally: Renee Zellwicker.

[40:37] Liz Esten: I cannot sanction his buffoonery.

[40:39] Jesse McAnally: And then uh Heather Locklear, right?

[40:41] Liz Esten: Jenny McCarthy.

[40:43] Jesse McAnally: Jenny McCarthy. It's both of them.

[40:45] Liz Esten: Both of them.

[40:46] Jesse McAnally: They're Siamese twids. Like, I can't believe I dated that guy.

[40:51] Liz Esten: I talk like a smoker that's been smoking his whole life.

[40:57] Jesse McAnally: That's the reason no vaccines in my blood makes my voice better. Stronger. With a little Jackie Hoffman thrown in.

[41:06] Liz Esten: Alright, what do we got, Liz?

[41:08] Liz Esten: Alright. I watched the I watch it on YouTube, and since the option was available, I watched it at 1.5 speed, which definitely heightened the humor.

[41:18] Jesse McAnally: Yes!

[41:19] Liz Esten: I knew I watched this in the wrong way.

[41:22] Jesse McAnally: Uh that's a that's a that's a three-star.

[41:24] Liz Esten: That's a three-star.

[41:26] Jesse McAnally: Two, but you're right.

[41:28] Liz Esten: Yes. Sort of, yes.

[41:31] Jesse McAnally: These movies are hard. Once we get some more popular ones, this will be way easier.

[41:34] Liz Esten: Yeah. Scrape in the bottom of a barrel. You'll brave enough to find this movie on eBay.

[41:41] Jesse McAnally: Wait, wait, wait. So the point of this game is to figure out if it's one star or not one star?

[41:46] Liz Esten: One's our five.

[41:48] Jesse McAnally: First or a five star when you got things that actually matter.

[41:51] Liz Esten: Gotcha.

[41:52] Jesse McAnally: Alright, alright. It's a it's a once we get to the popular ones, it'll be one and five purely.

[41:57] Liz Esten: Yes.

[41:58] Jesse McAnally: Right now it's a little skewed towards middle and it's mostly middling and bad.

[42:02] Liz Esten: Yes.

[42:03] Jesse McAnally: It's one and not one.

[42:04] Liz Esten: Alright, Liz, what's next?

[42:06] Liz Esten: Alright. Men supporting women and women supporting men. Friends supporting friends.

[42:14] Jesse McAnally: That was Ada who wrote that review.

[42:16] Liz Esten: Adah Glassbourg wrote that.

[42:20] Jesse McAnally: Secret account.

[42:22] Liz Esten: I need one good review on the one film I made.

[42:25] Jesse McAnally: You we all hear those leap of face stories of someone like I put all my heart into this script telling my story of how I made it and then it became big. We don't hear about the ones that don't become big where they just wind up in credit card debt, and then someone else from it became the really big thing, and then it's just like a footnote in their story.

[42:44] Liz Esten: Yeah.

[42:45] Jesse McAnally: That's a terrifying idea, but there has to be like 50 of them born a year.

[42:49] Liz Esten: Alright, Jess, is that one star or not one star?

[42:52] Jesse McAnally: That's a one star.

[42:53] Liz Esten: That's a three star.

[42:54] Jesse McAnally: Dang. I thought it was trying to trick me.

[42:57] Liz Esten: No, I was trying to go along with you.

[42:59] Jesse McAnally: Okay. Alright, there's two left. So what do we got?

[43:02] Liz Esten: Jesse, you can still get on the board. Alan's beating you, though.

[43:06] Jesse McAnally: Good. I mean, good. Good.

[43:08] Liz Esten: Alright. Painfully cringy, even mate for a maid for TV movie standards. This must have been a Canadian after school special about self-esteem. Kind of a trip to see baby face Jim Carrey, though.

[43:19] Jesse McAnally: One star trip.

[43:21] Liz Esten: Yes.

[43:22] Jesse McAnally: Alright. Alright. Alright, alright.

[43:26] Liz Esten: Wrong actor.

[43:28] Jesse McAnally: That's the next podcast.

[43:29] Liz Esten: Yeah. Matthew McCock.

[43:33] Jesse McAnally: Alright, Jess. The last one.

[43:35] Liz Esten: Alan, don't forget, we got a lot of movies to get through first. We might hate each other. We might still be able to do that. We gotta we got a year and a half worth of movies to dig through here.

[43:44] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, you're stuck with me for at least a year and a half seeing my face for a week or so.

[43:49] Liz Esten: I have been psychologists for a year and a half, so I guess.

[43:52] Jesse McAnally: Oh yeah, congratulations. Alright, what do we got?

[43:54] Liz Esten: Alright, this last one. This is a TV movie, and it's pretty good and short. It's about it, guy who helps a girl with her comedy routine. It's cute.

[44:02] Jesse McAnally: You know what? That's a wholesome review. I'm gonna give that's a three or not a one star, definitely.

[44:08] Liz Esten: Three!

[44:08] Jesse McAnally: It's a three!

[44:09] Liz Esten: Hell yeah. I'll give you two points for that.

[44:12] Jesse McAnally: You know what? That was her husband who wrote that one.

[44:15] Liz Esten: Or wife. You know what? That's Heather Lockleer.

[44:19] Jesse McAnally: Jenny McCarthy!

[44:20] Liz Esten: It's Jenny Carthy.

[44:22] Jesse McAnally: Yes, it's not a big one. Jimmy McCarthy also on her secret letterbox account being like.

[44:27] Liz Esten: But her letterbox is named Heather McC Heather Lockleer.

[44:31] Jesse McAnally: Heather McCarthy.

[44:32] Liz Esten: Heavy McCarthy Locklear. It's a fan account. Notice you never see the two of them at the same place at the same time.

[44:39] Jesse McAnally: Oh my goodness. Just saying.

[44:41] Liz Esten: Just saying. Maybe Alan's on to something.

[44:46] Jesse McAnally: Alright, Liz. Any more?

[44:47] Liz Esten: That's it.

[44:48] Jesse McAnally: Alright. Who won?

[44:50] Liz Esten: Alan!

[44:51] Jesse McAnally: Congratulations, Alan!

[44:54] Alan Seales: Somebody stop me!

[44:56] Jesse McAnally: Oh my gosh. And now that we've been successfully somebody stopped, let's give our overall thoughts on Rubberface and whether or not we would give this an alrighty then or a no spank you.

[45:10] Alan Seales: Alright, Alan, you're up first. God, I want so hard to give this an alrighty then because you know this crew worked hard on it and thought they were doing a really good job, but this is a hard, hard no spank you.

[45:26] Jesse McAnally: I'm sorry. I have to give it a no spank you. Um, who do you think is the MVP of this movie, aside from Jim Carrey, who's he's obviously doing the work? Like, who is your favorite character?

[45:35] Alan Seales: That oversized tape recorder that she wrote her suicide note on.

[45:43] Liz Esten: Oh no.

[45:46] Alan Seales: Yeah. No doubt. I think mine is obviously the girl that says, What she got rather watch the tube than go to a party. The most Canadian woman ever made right there.

[45:59] Liz Esten: Mine is the MC that seems kinda happy that Jim Carrey has fake laryngitis. He's like, Yeah, he he has laryngitis, so we're gonna need the sad girl to come on stage. You better laugh at her.

[46:11] Alan Seales: You know what? At least he wasn't like outright horrible to the sad girl. You know what? He didn't fat shame her, which is what everyone else was doing. So all things considered, there was no misogyny or anything like that from any of the male figures towards the female comedian. That's a rare enough th find. I will give it that much credit.

[46:30] Liz Esten: Fair enough. Still a very hard no spank you for me. Like and um not I I actually I'm gonna it's a very light no spank you because honestly, it wasn't the worst thing in the world. I enjoyed it, I was able to hear it. Um Jim Carrey had a few moments where I'm like, you know what? Yeah, that's kind of charming. I see what you're doing here. Um the you're gonna have a bright future, kid, was the kind of vibe I got. And that's enough of a charm.

[46:58] Liz Esten: Exactly. Uh uh as a as a person who was a teenage girl, who also had like times where I was self conscious about my weight, I found this movie really terrible and boring. Like, uh, I th I'm going from a female end of things, obviously, because I'm I have a different perspective on being her, so like I don't know. I just feel it's boring. Jim Carrey was okay. I didn't even find him that funny. I was just worried pain the whole time. So it was like, uh I couldn't even laugh at it. So we're gonna give it a very hard no spank you.

[47:36] Alan Seales: Alright. Um on that being said, like when we do this, we're gonna rank these as we go. So both in first place and in last place, for all of us, I believe, rubber face is on the board. This is the only time rubberface will be number one in the range.

[47:53] Jesse McAnally: Yep. You never know! You hold on to this. You don't know what next week is. You don't know what next week is.

[47:59] Alan Seales: But as of right now, Rubberface is number one. And thank you for joining us on what is the first of many stops into the world of Jim Carrey. Alan, why don't you promote your wonderful stuff for the world to find and see where you are.

[48:14] Alan Seales: Oh my goodness. Um I host two other podcasts, one of which uh is a solo podcast called The Theatre Podcast. You can get it at bpn.fm slash ttp, and then the other one I co-host with a lovely lady called Was It Chance, and you can get that at BPN.fm slash was it chance. I'm on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok. I don't know what I'm doing on TikTok, but I'm there.

[48:37] Jesse McAnally: Heck yeah.

[48:38] Alan Seales: Um, you can also find my other podcast, Musical Switch, on the Broadway Podcast Network, as well as my other other podcast, the Dear Friends Podcast, on the Broadway Podcast Network. But if you would like to follow this podcast, you can find us on iTunes, Spotify Stitcher at CarriedAway with Justin Allen. Our Twitter is Carried Away Pod, as well as our Instagram. Shoot us an email at carried away podcast at gmail.com. Our title card was created by the amazing Grace Aki. Go follow them on Grace Aki Made It on Instagram. This show is produced by the wonderful, the incredible Elizabeth Eston. Thank you for doing all the research and pulling all those letterbox reviews.

[49:14] Liz Esten: Our theme song is I Choose You by the band Thanks. Thank you for letting us use that. Thank you to the Broadway Podcast Network for having us on the platform and for not kicking us off for making fun of poor Adah Glassbourg.

[49:31] Alan Seales: I really honestly it would Ada, if you're listening, we would love to have you on the podcast. Absolutely. We would bump everyone else, and we have some pretty cool names on the possible list just to get you on. And if you have been at any movie with Jim Carrey, we want to hear from you. We want to know.

[49:49] Liz Esten: Yes.

[49:49] Alan Seales: And we will have you on this podcast to talk about your personal experience with Mr. Jim Carrey. And if you're going to be able to do that, Sonic, this is your invite.

[49:58] Liz Esten: Yes.

[49:59] Alan Seales: Sonic 5. And man, by the time by the time we're done with this podcast, it's Sonic 2 just came out as we are recording this, he might have another movie. I'm I hope that happens.

[50:09] Liz Esten: Yeah, yeah.

[50:10] Alan Seales: Um the the question is, um, I'm sure, like, are we gonna include things that aren't movies?

[50:15] Liz Esten: Yes, we're including TV shows.

[50:16] Alan Seales: Yes. But are we gonna include memoirs? Are we gonna include the children's book he wrote?

[50:20] Liz Esten: We'll have to find out.

[50:22] Alan Seales: I we at least know we're doing the movies and TV shows right now. Maybe that could be our special bonus content.

[50:28] Liz Esten: Oh yeah, when we when we get that out there.

[50:31] Alan Seales: Yeah, bonus. But if you guys could do us a favor, we are a brand new podcast, and if you had even a little bit of fun, and believe me, this show is only gonna get better from the here. So if we're starting at an eight, we're only gonna go up to a 20 by the end of this. So why don't you leave us a review on iTunes so that we can get more voices out there?

[50:49] Liz Esten: Alright. Anything else we have left to say before we wrap this on up?

[50:52] Jesse McAnally: Women are funny.

[50:53] Liz Esten: Just want to say that.

[50:54] Jesse McAnally: Women are funny.

[50:54] Alan Seales: Alrighty then, we'll see you next time on the carry it away podcast.

[50:59] Liz Esten: Bye-bye.