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[1:26] David Alpert: This episode's guest is a firm believer of that Disney magic.

[1:30] David Alpert: He starred as Jack Kelly in the National Tour of Newsies.

[1:33] David Alpert: Here's my friend and yours, Mr. Dan DeLuca.

[2:42] David Alpert: Dan, welcome to E-Ticket to Broadway.

[2:42] David Alpert: This interview has been a long time coming, as the moment we met, we actually started talking about Disney right away because I think we were both wearing Mickey Mouse t-shirts.

[2:42] David Alpert: So my question for you is are you ready to continue this conversation and talk about Disney?

[2:42] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, it's been too long and it has to come out, it has to flow, so let's go.

[2:42] David Alpert: Let's go.

[2:42] Dan DeLuca: It's already too late. We were doing a benefit at the Gershwin Theater, home to Wicked. And literally, I'm pretty sure, I mean, I'm sure I was wearing a Mickey Mouse t-shirt, and I think you were, and I was like, hey, you like Disney?

[2:42] David Alpert: And you were like, yeah.

[2:42] Dan DeLuca: You could say that.

[2:42] David Alpert: Yeah. Have you always been a Disney kid?

[2:42] Dan DeLuca: Yes. Until I turned 18, then I unfortunately had to become a Disney adult, which this is fine. But yes, technically. Technically, yes, the Disney kid.

[2:42] David Alpert: That's when you became a young at heart, as we say.

[2:42] Dan DeLuca: Oh, I like that. I like that. A young at heart.

[2:40] David Alpert: You went from a young to a young at heart.

[2:42] Dan DeLuca: Make sure to visit the E-Ticket to Broadway shop. We sell t-shirts that say just that.

[2:44] David Alpert: So Dan, did you have any favorite Disney movies as a kid?

[2:50] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, absolutely. I so I was I'm the middle child in between two sisters, so was heavily, heavily raised in the universe of VHS Disney tapes, you know, like stacking them on top of each other to make forts, um, the like, you know, the the yeah, exactly. So trying to think specifically. I remember the first movie I remember seeing in the theaters was Lion King, for sure.

[3:20] Dan DeLuca: I definitely recall seeing that and also Goofy Movie. I remember seeing a Goofy Movie in theaters, which I love. We can please go into that topic later. Um yeah, we were But yeah, those were those were huge, absolutely huge. And and Beauty and the Beast was definitely a huge one for our family. And uh yeah, I mean, name any of the that Disney Renaissance and those VHSs, and we were pumping those, pumping those tapes out like it was our jobs. So yeah.

[3:51] Dan DeLuca: They were like this plastic foam, those VHS cassettes.

[3:55] David Alpert: Yeah.

[3:56] Dan DeLuca: And like again, you just ordered, like, you lined them up on your shelf.

[3:59] David Alpert: Yeah. They were so beautiful.

[4:01] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, like Pinterest, we didn't have Pinterest back then, but like our Pinterest boards of those VHSs would be gorgeous.

[4:07] David Alpert: Yeah.

[4:07] Dan DeLuca: And also going to like Burger King or McDonald's and getting the toy that aligned with your case and just setting it next to it and being like, you live here. Like that's magical.

[4:17] David Alpert: That's magical.

[4:20] Dan DeLuca: Yes. The overlap, you know, if you were born in the 80s or 90s, the renaissance of Disney films just hit us at such a perfect age that we grew up with it.

[4:30] David Alpert: Yeah.

[4:30] Dan DeLuca: And it was, you know, then you go to McDonald's, and you know, even though I have a very upsetting story where they tried to gender the Disney toys at you'd go to you'd go to McDonald's, and if you want the Snow White toys, they'd say, oh, the girl toy. So McDonald's, Burger King, pull it together.

[4:46] David Alpert: But it's true. I think we like there were those collectible cups. Do you remember those?

[4:50] Dan DeLuca: I still have those at my parents' house, still we still have Aladdin and Jungle Book for sure.

[4:56] David Alpert: Yeah. Did you have any favorite Disney characters as a kid?

[4:59] Dan DeLuca: Yes. Peter Pan and Pinocchio were my tops for sure. For a show. Those were the guys. Um I remember seeing also being in the parks at uh um in Disney World in that uh what was the what was the parade? Um Remember the Magic. It was, I believe 1997 was the year. 1998 was when that parade was going on.

[5:20] Dan DeLuca: And Peter Pan and Captain Hook and Pinocchio and Geppetto closed the parade. They were literally behind the last float, and I was ecstatic because I was like, God, they saved the best for last just for me. They knew. I was so grateful that they did that just for me.

[5:38] David Alpert: Yeah. I mean, when you go into Fantasyland and you can go on the Peter Pan ride and then Pinocchio ride, is that just your heaven?

[5:45] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It really, it really is. And sadly, you know, the Pinocchio ride is not in world. Any like, but the um, but in Disneyland, yeah, it's beautiful. They're just right there, they're just right there. We love it. We'd love to see it. You love those characters. You know, they're you know, we hopefully learn a lesson that you shouldn't lie. But Pinocchio is a dark movie as well.

[6:07] Dan DeLuca: It gets a little dark in there. Yeah, it's incredible. I was re-watching it, you know, thank God for Disney Plus, it came out, and we don't unfortunately or fortunately don't have to have all those VHSs stacked on top of each other anymore. But maybe good for the environment, whatever it may be. But just I remember watching it and being like, wow, this is so real.

[6:28] Dan DeLuca: I mean, if that's not Joseph Campbell's The Hero's Journey, I don't know what is like literally being tested and being tested and being tested. It's like, dude, be a good boy, just be a good boy. And it's like, but the temptations of life, like you like literally see him like go to Vegas and you know, and Pleasure Island. Like, are you kidding me? That's intense. I don't know if I could withstand the temptations of Pleasure Island. Damn.

[6:54] Dan DeLuca: Um, I will say Peter Pan is also one of my favorite movies. I think it's just the storytelling aspects. Um, and I wish I could fly.

[7:04] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, yeah, same. And also, I uh shout out to a uh Disney Redhead. We like those Disney Redheads.

[7:10] David Alpert: Absolutely.

[7:10] Dan DeLuca: Absolutely, yeah. As much as I didn't want to say it at the time, he definitely is a redhead. But yeah, Peter Pan for sure. Oh my god, flying. I still have flying dreams, and they're my favorite ones. It's like, how do we get that? How do we get that? That technology, it's coming. We know it's coming.

[7:24] David Alpert: Well, I mean, you can wait, but also I can tell you how to fly. It's just some pixie dust and think of a happy thought.

[7:29] Dan DeLuca: Right.

[7:32] David Alpert: Yeah, yeah. I'm still working on that. I still have a dark soul. I'm still trying to lighten up apparently.

[7:37] Dan DeLuca: They're not happy enough to fly.

[7:40] David Alpert: So this is one of my favorite dramaturgical questions of Peter Pan. We clearly know, Peter says you have to think of a happy thought, right? To fly.

[7:47] Dan DeLuca: Right.

[7:48] David Alpert: So when Michael Darling grabs Tinkerbell and shakes her over Nana in the yard, and Nana is screaming and shouting, she starts to fly.

[7:57] Dan DeLuca: Yeah.

[7:58] David Alpert: What is her happy thoughts?

[7:59] Dan DeLuca: Maybe it's the density of the dogs. Um, how just job how dogs are such loving beings and loving creatures that maybe it's a density thing of the soul of a dog that like they are they embody love so much and happiness so much that she just had some leftover um higher vibrations than the humans did because we can get so locked down in the uh in our neocortex with our different thoughts about getting confused about things, but a dog's just like, I'm just happy to be here.

[8:28] Dan DeLuca: I'm happy to be here, even though she's scared, she's just happy to be there still. That's the answer to that question. How's that?

[8:35] David Alpert: That was perfect. That was great.

[8:46] Dan DeLuca: Dan, you brought this up already, but when was the first time you went to a Disney theme park?

[8:51] Dan DeLuca: The first time I went, I was around three years old. And I'm not sure if they're actual memories or if I just recall seeing them from old videotapes, but I still recall whatever that essence of that was so very strongly. And I had the I yeah, I had the great fortune of going to Disney World because I'm from Pennsylvania. So that was just closer. I didn't get to Disneyland until my twenties.

[9:18] Dan DeLuca: But yeah, Disney World was that magical place that we got to go to every four between four and six years we got to visit there, and it was just absolutely magical. I mean, I can look in my face on those old pictures and those old videos and be like, wow, like he's just yeah, he's just having a great time. Just the fact that like Winnie the Pooh is standing over there. I'm like, Winnie, you old son of a bitch, get over here. Give me a hug.

[9:44] Dan DeLuca: Like I did I'd thought I I didn't have to like wait in lines like, get over here, give me a hug, you silly old bear. Like, you know, just like walking up to things, just be like, hey, how you doing? Like it just felt very natural, felt very natural to me that that was um to exist there. It felt it felt felt good. Felt like home.

[10:01] David Alpert: If you went when you were such a young human, it's already in your mind. I've spoken to other guests that haven't gone to the Disney parks until they were, you know, in their twenties, and it's a different experience. But for those of us that really grew up with it, it's just oh yeah, that's that magical place that exists.

[10:17] Dan DeLuca: Yeah.

[10:18] David Alpert: Yeah.

[10:18] Dan DeLuca: For sure. Yeah, even when I still go back to Disney World specifically, it just it does transport you back to the young at heart times when you just are like you you know you have that nostalgic experience. I'm sure, like as you've got you gathered data from all the guests that you've um that you've had on the show that whatever park they went to first was always gonna be their most magical one, even though I know there's more historic deep rich vibes within Disneyland because that was you know obviously Walt built that and you know was there specifically there is something about which I obviously respect and love so so so much but there's always that element of my physical being was in Disney World first so there's something about that there's like a little gem of preciousness that lies within the Orlando park that is always probably going to be a little bit more nostalgic or special to my soul just because of that and the impact it had on me at a at such a young age.

[11:22] David Alpert: Well said I am definitely as I say a lot in the podcast I'm a land boy and I think you're a world boy just by technic well by physical by physical parameters.

[11:22] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[11:22] David Alpert: It doesn't mean we don't love the others but you know Disney really uses our nostalgia to you know create an experience and if again if you grew up and as your your brain was forming you know you're a world boy.

[11:22] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, I'm a boy of the world a young a young boy of the world.

[11:22] David Alpert: Yeah, that's it. Have you been to any of the international parks?

[11:22] Dan DeLuca: I have I've been to Paris. I've been to Paris and I can't wait to get to the other ones but Paris was interesting because I was so dumbfounded because when I feel like whenever you're in a Disney park it's always sunny.

[12:11] Dan DeLuca: It's always like bright and sunny and it's the perfect weather even when it's not. And I walked into Disney Parks and it's cold and rainy.

[12:23] Dan DeLuca: Yeah. And I was like, this feels so strange. Um they were also prepping for their, I believe their 25th anniversary, so that a lot of things were under construction and kind of closed.

[12:34] Dan DeLuca: So I don't want to necessarily say I didn't have the fullest of experiences at the time. So I would love to go back when I know the weather's gonna be a little bit sunnier, but I mean it was still beautiful, so cool to experience another culture's version of what that is, but so different. Just crazy how different it was. I remember the last time I was at Disney Parks waiting to go on Space Mountain with a winter jacket, shivering. And I was like, yeah, this is weird. It's weird. You're like, something's off here, but it's just different. It's not bad. It's just different.

[13:07] David Alpert: Will you describe a perfect day at Walt Disney World? What would that be like for you? What are some must-do rides, dining experiences, shows?

[13:18] Dan DeLuca: Oh damn. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. All right, let's hit off from the tip top. A perfect, okay, perfect. Because there's a difference between practical and perfect for me, as far as the parks go. Because there is the practicality of like you want to get on the big long line things first, just to like make sure there's not that long of a line. There is that. But if we're not talking practicality, we're talking about perfect. I would love I always like to say.

[13:48] David Alpert: I have to interrupt and say, are we talking about Mary Poppins, who's practically perfect?

[13:51] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, practically. It's see, there's that in-between line there too. So she's gonna come with you. But again, if she is, and if she appears in the form of a VIP tour guide to help you make that perfect dream come true, live your life. It's Disney, right?

[14:07] David Alpert: Right.

[14:08] Dan DeLuca: So you're absolutely right. Mary Poppins' job is a VIP tour guide. That is great. That is always a lovely perk. Um, yeah, first, I like I love the Magic Kingdom. Like that is just that is the essence of what all those worlds are to me, and for other people to say otherwise dumbfounds me, but I still respect and have love for whatever opinion you have. So first thing there, like get in there, get a nice, like well, let's be basic. Like, let's go to the Starbucks and like grab like, you know, maybe too sweet of a drink or something like that, or a bacon gouda breakfast sandwich, something along those lines.

[14:51] David Alpert: That sounds great.

[14:52] Dan DeLuca: Hit up a few of those like fantasy ride lands, like start with Peter Pan. Let's start pure. Let's start pure and nostalgic. Let's smack Space Mountain, let's smack it. Ooh. Like, do that one a few times. Go over to Splash, get a little bit of wet, you're like, hey, it is morning. I am here, I am blessed. We are here. Zippity dood day. Uh definitely, you gotta as I mentioned this to you before, the Country Bear Jamboree is when I was younger, the first time when I went when I was three, my mom was dumbfounded at how many times I wanted to sit through those animatronic bears talking about their complicated love lives and their drinking problems.

[15:43] Dan DeLuca: Um yeah, it's a show that holds a very special part of my being in general. They're my favorite band, the Country Bear Jamboree. Uh but yeah, if you don't know the Country Bear Jamboree or haven't visited in a long time, I highly recommend to just go sit in there. They shortened the show, which is a, you know, an offense, but it's fine. I'm okay. I'm doing okay. Um, but they shortened the show from 16 minutes to 12 minutes, but you still get a healthy dose of animatronic bears singing about their very complicated love lives and their drinking problems and their, you know, just like how bears deal with life.

[16:32] Dan DeLuca: And you know, they still drink, they still can't get it right. They still can't get their like it's just if you really want to see a piece of theater that really reflects your life back to you, man, go catch out the Country Bear Jamboree because that is a piece that it just delivers. You know, you'll sit there dumbfounded at just the philosophy and the artistry of the lyrics and the spectacle itself.

[17:01] David Alpert: So in this perfect day, how many viewings are we doing of the Country Bear Jamboree?

[17:06] Dan DeLuca: A healthy amount is probably one. I have unhealthy habits, so I might go two or three times. But at least once is healthy. Once is healthy.

[17:19] David Alpert: Yeah.

[17:20] Dan DeLuca: Sorry, back to the I got really sidetracked by my passion. You're good, you're good. Then heading up, then you gotta go Animal Kingdom. You gotta do um, I mean, you gotta go see Festival of the Lion King, you gotta go see Finding Nemo, you gotta go do the Safari, you gotta go do Everest four times. You gotta do it four times in a row. You gotta go do Avatar, you gotta just sit in that land. You just gotta sit there, you gotta see your butt down on a seat and just say, what the hell? How did this happen?

[17:47] Dan DeLuca: And then go sit your butt in that little in that in that bench seat or the or yeah, go ride the, my gosh, what's it called? The Flight of Passage, Flight of Passage. Get on there and have a spiritual experience. Have the most transformative spiritual experience of your entire life. Some people go to the jungle and do ayahuasca. You can just go to Avatar, like just go to Pandora and ride Flight of Passage. It's the same thing.

[18:15] David Alpert: Yeah.

[18:15] Dan DeLuca: It's the same thing. Someone once told me, I was like, what's the draw of Vegas? They said, Oh, it's like a Disneyland for adults. And I said, I'm sorry, but Disneyland is for adults. I don't understand.

[18:25] David Alpert: Yeah.

[18:26] Dan DeLuca: I feel you. I know. That is a great day. I love that you were bold enough to start with Peter Pan and expect to still have time in the day. Because if you're going to Peter Pan right at the beginning, you're in that queue for a while, but in this perfect day, Mary Poppins is gonna, you know, exactly a spoonful of sugar that and get you right to the front.

[18:45] Dan DeLuca: Exactly. I mean, we still gotta do I mean we haven't even talked about food yet. Like, I mean, there's so much to do. There's Epcot still we gotta get to. There's Magic Kingdom. I mean, Hollywood Studios. That new Mickey and Minnie train ride was very, very, very exciting. Like rest in peace, Great Movie Ride, but I had a great time. I had a great time. Rock and Roller Coaster eight times, Tower of Terror two times. Um my gosh, Star Wars! Are you kidding me? Star Wars! Rise of the Resistance, Rise of the Resistance. That is crazy.

[19:25] Dan DeLuca: I had the pleasure of riding that this in August, I think, or October, and that was incredible. And then more shows like either way, you gotta end up back in Magic Kingdom for the end of the night for Happily Ever After. But also, you gotta see Fantasmic too, because I think Fantasmic is my favorite show.

[19:57] David Alpert: So let's talk Newsies. Did you like me watch that movie all the time as a kid?

[20:01] Dan DeLuca: I did not. I found it when I was in middle school. I found it when I was in middle school, but I did not have that VHS. I did not have it. But when I found it in middle school, I watched the, I think it was in different like 10 minute sections on YouTube, and I would watch the different sections on YouTube, and I always and I, you know, I was doing some sort of like some version of choir or show choir at the time. We were doing Carrying the Banner, the opening number, and I remember watching that movie and being like, wow, if this ever turns into a Broadway musical, I want to be Racetrack Higgins so bad.

[20:44] Dan DeLuca: I was like, I cannot wait to sing that line in King of New York of like, look at me, I'm the king of New York. I'm like, that's gonna be my part. I cannot wait to be Racetrack. I can't wait. It turned out a little differently. My vision did my vision was close, but I was off.

[21:06] David Alpert: Uh yeah.

[21:08] Dan DeLuca: I was off. And do you remember seeing it on Broadway before you originated the role of Jack Kelly on the road?

[21:15] Dan DeLuca: Yes. I saw it, yeah I remember seeing it I got standing room tickets with a buddy of mine and watching Jeremy Jordan do it and I was like oh wait no I think that that suits a little bit better of my skills at this moment and yeah that was absolutely magical to even hear that Newsies was going to Broadway because it was just supposed to be a paper mill first and being like I couldn't make it I for some reason or other I think I was still in school at the time I was in New York but I couldn't make it out to paper mill for whatever reason and they said they were bringing it to Broadway I was like ooh this is some pretty good timing because I'm about to finish school right now so that could be pretty exciting and lo and behold it fortunately did.

[22:02] Dan DeLuca: What happens, watch what happens, seize the day and the world knew it you know you carried that banner yeah and met a song that's rich that's rich that's and it became rich and I became rich that's rich.

[22:17] David Alpert: What was your favorite song to sing in the production?

[22:21] Dan DeLuca: I always have two answers to this because I loved doing Something to Believe In with Stephanie Styles. I loved loved love doing that and we talked about that many times of just being like how cool is it to sing an Alan Menken Disney love duet under the projected stars under the moon, the projected moon and kissing to an Alan Menken underscore. Like that was that is that's a living. Like that is some prime living right there. Like that's really good stuff.

[23:00] Dan DeLuca: So that was magical. And Stephanie, I know you've had on this podcast.

[23:05] David Alpert: Well, I was about to talk about Stephanie.

[23:06] Dan DeLuca: She's a good friend to eat it. What was the other song though? The other song was probably Once and For All. That the song at the end with everybody kind of coming together, and there's just something about that energy of that song and the lyrics behind it, and just the there's this urgency to saving the day and being a part of that ensemble with those chord progressions and with that key change, and with just this, there's this force behind it that if you do the show or if you see the show, obviously, depending on the production, you're like, there's something really magical about this song specifically.

[23:47] Dan DeLuca: Stephanie, we talked about she's such a, as I mentioned, a good friend to eat. She shared a photo of you and the entire company of Newsies at the animation studios in California. Um did you remember going in? What was that like?

[24:00] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, that was I remember going there and seeing that building with the seven dwarfs on it, as I recalled from my VHS days of watching that, going in there and seeing that, and that was just it was so cool. That was probably one of the highlights of the entire tour was being able to stand in that lot. And we did Carrying the Banner, but I also got to sing Santa Fe by myself completely up there, and it was just I mean, talk about the feeling the history of that studio, and to be able to stand there where it's also the little square where like all the handprints, I forget what it's called specifically, the legends plaza, something like that, but where all those handprints are, and just singing those songs and to be there and yeah, it was it was just an incredibly, incredibly magical experience.

[25:01] Dan DeLuca: It's kind of hard to put into words, but that will always be when I see pictures of that day, it kind it it captures quite a bit of it, but there's that essence of just like wow, this is magic, and in this physical realm, like this is it, this is it.

[25:34] David Alpert: If you were to get a job at the parks, what would you want to do?

[25:39] Dan DeLuca: Oh my gosh, probably be Mickey at the end of Phantasmic.

[25:43] David Alpert: And I don't understand what you're talking about.

[25:46] Dan DeLuca: To be a job.

[25:48] David Alpert: That job's not available.

[25:49] Dan DeLuca: Oh, it's not available.

[25:51] David Alpert: Well, if Mickey, Mickey's doing it.

[25:53] Dan DeLuca: You're right.

[25:54] David Alpert: Well, you said then to be me, then to be me at the end of Fantasmic.

[25:58] Dan DeLuca: How about that? Like Mickey Mickey uh uh yeah, he uh supports me.

[26:04] David Alpert: He like he's like definitely he's spotting me so I don't fall.

[26:07] Dan DeLuca: But yeah, you're together.

[26:09] David Alpert: Yeah, we do it together.

[26:11] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, yeah.

[26:11] David Alpert: Like he sets off that firework.

[26:13] Dan DeLuca: Or you could be the matinee Mickey.

[26:15] David Alpert: Okay, okay.

[26:16] Dan DeLuca: Well, I guess.

[26:18] David Alpert: I guess I could be the matinee Mickey.

[26:21] Dan DeLuca: There's no matinee of Phantasmic David, and I know you know that.

[26:25] David Alpert: There is in your imagination.

[26:28] Dan DeLuca: Alright, so I get to do daytime fireworks.

[26:31] David Alpert: Alright, fine.

[26:32] Dan DeLuca: Fine.

[26:33] David Alpert: You said dream job, and I'm I'm settling, but fine.

[26:36] Dan DeLuca: I will take it. I will take it.

[26:37] David Alpert: Okay, so great. Same question, but for Jack Kelly.

[26:42] Dan DeLuca: For Jack's Jack's dream job?

[26:45] David Alpert: Dream job.

[26:47] Dan DeLuca: That is a hilarious question. What would be his job? I feel like he'd want to be the mayor.

[26:53] David Alpert: And he wouldn't really do anything, but he would just kind of go around like being like, yeah, that looks good.

[26:59] Dan DeLuca: That's it. Nice work. Yeah, good. Like he wouldn't really do anything.

[27:03] David Alpert: I feel like he'd just be like stand around, be like, yeah, that's it. Nice work. Good. Good, good, good.

[27:11] Dan DeLuca: He could be like the character host with Mickey. Like car like walking around with Mickey, like keeping everything safe and secure.

[27:17] David Alpert: Yeah, his like security guard in a way.

[27:19] Dan DeLuca: Yeah. Yeah, for real.

[27:20] David Alpert: Yeah, yeah, like super efficient.

[27:23] Dan DeLuca: And if the newsies were to go in one attraction together, which one do you think they would choose?

[27:28] Dan DeLuca: Oh man. Like, come on, everyone. We're all going on this one ride. The first thing that popped up into my mind, which is hilarious, but this is how I see it playing out. So everybody use your imaginations. But we get um we get put on to it's a small world. But how how it ends up, how it how it ends up is though the the boat stops and we take over. It's a small world. And it like literally just becomes a disaster. Like the dolls are maybe I'm just like speaking from my own experience of like how it is to be with that group of people, to be like, I would love to see what would play out if newsies were released into the land of it's a small world, and just seeing who would go where and um what uh havoc would uh would just overcome the this pure beautiful attraction and yeah there's something about that that is so comically satisfying to me to see like what those boys would do to it's a small world, like what would happen.

I don't know why, that's the most random thing, but uh there's something about that that I think would be hilarious and could be an HBO uh mini-series is newsies living inside of It's a Small World and the drama that would go down or just the the shenanigans, yeah.

[28:01] David Alpert: There's something about that oh filly, we'll be right back.

[29:00] David Alpert: Oh, what's the ball's town for fast pass?

[29:20] David Alpert: Dan, it's time for everyone's favorite. This is Fast Pass Answers. I'll put 30 seconds on the clock after I ask the first question for you to answer as many of these as possible. Are you ready?

[29:30] Dan DeLuca: Okay, yeah, I'm ready.

[29:31] David Alpert: Here we go. Dan DeLuca. Name any ride in fantasy land.

[29:36] Dan DeLuca: Peter Pan's Flight.

[29:36] David Alpert: Favorite snack in the parks.

[29:43] Dan DeLuca: Uh oh man. Oh man, there's so many. Go with churros.

[29:46] David Alpert: Name any song from Newsies.

[29:50] Dan DeLuca: Uh, seize the day.

[29:51] David Alpert: Favorite Disney Princess.

[29:54] Dan DeLuca: Oh, Belle.

[29:56] David Alpert: Name a country in Epcot.

[29:59] Dan DeLuca: Mexico.

[30:00] David Alpert: Name any of the seven dwarfs.

[30:02] Dan DeLuca: Dopey.

[30:03] David Alpert: Favorite Broadway musical?

[30:06] Dan DeLuca: Time.

[30:07] David Alpert: Okay, I'm gonna give you time to answer because you you chose my favorite character and favorite dwarf and dopey, so you can have more time. Would you like to answer your favorite Broadway musical?

[30:15] Dan DeLuca: Favorite probably musical. Shoot. It's always between Beauty and the Beast and Les Mis. I'll say Beauty and the Beast because we're here.

[30:23] David Alpert: You love a French musical.

[30:25] Dan DeLuca: I love a French musical. Yeah.

[30:27] David Alpert: But Disneyland Paris, you know, we could step it up a little bit from my experience.

[30:31] Dan DeLuca: Maybe some heat lamps.

[30:33] David Alpert: Some heat lamps be great.

[30:36] Dan DeLuca: Just Lumiere.

[30:37] David Alpert: Or Lumiere.

[30:38] Dan DeLuca: Okay, churros. We're a fan of the churros.

[30:40] David Alpert: Yeah, I like churros, but I like other things better. I don't know why I said that. I got nervous.

[30:45] Dan DeLuca: That's okay. I know. Do you like Dole Whips?

[30:47] David Alpert: I love Dole Whips.

[30:49] Dan DeLuca: Do you like turkey legs?

[30:50] David Alpert: Yes. And also. You know what I mean? I'm like, there's a part of me that's just like absolutely, and there's also a part of me that's like, absolutely not. It depends on the day.

[31:03] Dan DeLuca: Most most of the time, no. You honestly know what my favorite is, but I didn't have time to say this in rapid fire. Is the um, if I want to get filthy, go into the barbecue Slaw Dogs at Casey's Corner on Main Street with some French fries and a Coke.

[31:21] Dan DeLuca: Damn. Yeah. You're there for it. That's it. Got it. That's my healthy. That's that's a healthy choice.

[31:28] David Alpert: You know, that's the healthy choice. Super all natural ingredients.

[31:39] David Alpert: Hold on, you're thinking ears. It's trivia time.

[31:42] Dan DeLuca: Oh boy.

[31:45] David Alpert: Trivia time. Country Bear Jamboree is one of the very last attractions that Walt Disney personally helped develop. Originally planned for a never built Disney ski resort in Mineral King, California. The show with the singing bears happily moved out to Florida in 1971 and has been performing daily at the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World ever since. This attraction opened at Disneyland in 1972, but closed in 2001 to make way for another bear's attraction. Which attraction now stands where the Country Bear Jamboree once stood at Disneyland?

[32:16] Dan DeLuca: Winnie the Pooh.

[32:18] David Alpert: Yeah, it is the many adventures of Winnie the Pooh. And interestingly enough, Pete Renaday, who was the voice of Henry and Max in the Jamboree, is the narrator of the Winnie the Pooh ride at Disneyland.

[32:30] Dan DeLuca: Did I know that? I don't know if I did know that.

[32:34] David Alpert: On the ride after you meet the Huffalumps and Woozles, you can actually look to find Max, Buff, and Melvin hidden on that ride.

[32:41] Dan DeLuca: I have seen that.

[33:15] David Alpert: So you brought the role of Jack Kelly and Newsies to audiences across the country on the national tour of the Broadway musical. And in the show, you famously sang the song Santa Fe. So in this game, I will share a statement, and I need you to tell me if I'm referring to the city in New Mexico or the place that inspired this podcast. Are you ready to play Santa Fe or Disneyland?

[33:35] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, it sounds great.

[33:37] David Alpert: Sounds great. Interestingly enough, in Disney Parks, there actually is a hotel Santa Fe.

[33:41] Dan DeLuca: Really?

[33:42] David Alpert: Here we go for Disneyland or Santa Fe number one. You have to travel to the southwest region of the United States to visit this place. And once there, you can dive into the local culture, like getting your photo taken with Donald Duck.

[33:59] Dan DeLuca: Is that Santa Fe or Disneyland or both? I've honestly never been to Santa Fe. So I don't know if they've got like a big Donald Duck culture there. I don't know about. Which could be possible. Um right, it could be possible. It sounds like Disneyland, but yeah, let's go with Disneyland on this one.

[34:19] David Alpert: That is correct. That is definitely Disneyland. Cool, cool. You're off to a great start. Number two, climate-wise, this area has cool, dry winters, hot summers, and relatively low precipitation.

[34:33] Dan DeLuca: It sounds like Santa Fe.

[34:36] David Alpert: It's actually both.

[34:38] Dan DeLuca: That's true of Disneyland as well.

[34:39] David Alpert: That that well, it's okay, cool. Okay, great. Both. I like that. Okay, number three. Many people have sung about my magical location on a Broadway stage in many different shows, including Tom Collins and the musical Rent.

[34:54] Dan DeLuca: That indeed would be Santa Fe.

[34:57] David Alpert: That is Santa Fe. Yeah. Though, of course, Disneyland and Disney World are brought up in many, you know, songs, including Pulled from the Addams Family, uh in Come From Away. Jen Callella famously sings Disneyland in the opening song. Of course, the song from Smile, but yes, this is Santa Fe. Okay, you're doing well. Number four, the most important figure in this land is Mickey Mouse.

[35:20] Dan DeLuca: Once again, I have not been to Santa Fe, so I don't know if this is something that they uh if this is an uh an icon there as well, but it sounds like Disneyland.

[35:30] David Alpert: It is Disneyland, it is.

[35:31] Dan DeLuca: Okay, cool, cool, cool.

[35:33] David Alpert: Number five, in its creation, the fundamental principle was that the town be laid out around a central plaza.

[35:42] Dan DeLuca: Disneyland.

[35:44] David Alpert: Dan, hold on to your butt because it's actually both.

[35:47] Dan DeLuca: It's both.

[35:48] David Alpert: Okay, cool. It is. I just learned that today as well that the Santa Fe original design was that it was to be laid out around a central plaza.

[35:56] Dan DeLuca: I love that. Santa Fe sounds like a like a magical place. I really feel like I should get there at some point.

[36:03] David Alpert: It is. Maybe sing a song about it.

[36:06] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, like I should go there and sing about it.

[36:09] David Alpert: Number six. In 2012, this location was listed among the ten best places to retire in the US by CBS Moneywatch and US News and World Report.

[36:21] Dan DeLuca: Definitely Disneyland.

[36:24] David Alpert: Yeah. No question. Definitely retire there.

[36:28] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna retire there. You know, they actually reported it with Santa Fe, but I I think I I'm with you. It's definitely Disneyland.

[36:33] David Alpert: It's wrong.

[36:35] Dan DeLuca: It's wrong.

[36:35] David Alpert: Okay, we've got four more. Here we go. When visiting this land, you can visit a large mansion which features some supernatural moments.

[36:44] Dan DeLuca: Sounds like it could be it could be both.

[36:46] David Alpert: It sounds like it might be both.

[36:47] Dan DeLuca: You're very wise. You're very wise.

[36:49] David Alpert: It is both. Of course, there's the Haunted Mansion. But Meow Wolf's House of Eternal Return is a mind-bending, interactive, explorable art experience for people of all ages in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

[37:01] Dan DeLuca: That sounds really cool.

[37:03] David Alpert: Yeah. Are you a fan of the Haunted Mansion?

[37:05] Dan DeLuca: I love the Haunted Mansion.

[37:07] David Alpert: Yeah, I'm I'm that I'm that stupid nerd who has it all, you know, r I know all the words to it, and it's really hard to not say it out loud when you're with other people, but like you're like, okay, let's not be that guy who speaks along with a ghost host, but you know, this is E-Ticket to Broadway. Everyone listening also recites the speech.

[37:29] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, like even like the I don't have the Spanish lowering of the safety bar down yet, but that is still a goal.

[37:37] Dan DeLuca: I've been in a lot of um Spanish speaking countries lately, and I feel like I really have to learn the the Spanish translation of lowering the safety bar.

[37:45] Dan DeLuca: I will or do not lower the safety bar, I will do it for you.

[37:48] David Alpert: Yeah.

[37:50] Dan DeLuca: Number eight, a very famous person, beloved by all, often seen on television, in print, and even on the big screen, owns a home in this land.

[38:01] David Alpert: I'm assuming Santa Fe.

[38:04] Dan DeLuca: Well, is it both?

[38:06] David Alpert: Because it's both, because of course Mickey Mouse has his home in Toontown, and Oprah owns a house in Santa Fe.

[38:12] Dan DeLuca: Got it.

[38:13] David Alpert: Mickey Mouse and Oprah.

[38:14] Dan DeLuca: Wow.

[38:15] David Alpert: Yeah, we love them both.

[38:16] Dan DeLuca: I want to see Oprah's house in Toontown.

[38:18] David Alpert: Can we get it?

[38:19] Dan DeLuca: Can we get that?

[38:19] David Alpert: We could switch.

[38:20] Dan DeLuca: Yeah, maybe they could swap houses, or maybe Oprah can just come and design a new home there.

[38:25] David Alpert: Could you imagine Oprah's ranch in Toontown?

[38:28] Dan DeLuca: Like Yes.

[38:29] David Alpert: That would be incredible.

[38:30] Dan DeLuca: Let's do that.

[38:32] Dan DeLuca: I would, even if it doesn't happen, I would like that attraction.

[38:35] Dan DeLuca: You know, Oprah's house in Toontown.

[38:37] Dan DeLuca: Like, oh my god, like there's these um like really true you can read all these like self-help like tune like cartoons or things like that.

[38:46] Dan DeLuca: Or sips some like she has a tea cafe that overlooks like this Zen River.

[38:51] Dan DeLuca: You're like sitting on the couch and it like moves around and like you get to interview people.

[38:57] David Alpert: Yeah, I love yes.

[38:59] Dan DeLuca: Number nine for Santa Fe or Disneyland. Here you can visit what is said to be the oldest living church structure in the United States.

[39:06] David Alpert: Probably I hope it's Santa Fe.

[39:09] Dan DeLuca: It is Santa Fe.

[39:10] Dan DeLuca: San Miguel Mission, uh also known as the Chapel, is a Spanish colonial mission church in Santa Fe, and it was originally built around 1610.

[39:19] David Alpert: Okay, much earlier than 1955.

[39:21] Dan DeLuca: And finally, beautiful mountain scenery and horses occupy part of this land.

[39:28] David Alpert: Both.

[39:29] Dan DeLuca: Yes, solid win.

[39:31] Dan DeLuca: Because of course in Santa Fe, the mountains are real, but in Disneyland there's Frontierland, the horses on Main Street.

[39:37] David Alpert: So Dan, you did wonderfully on Santa Fe or Disneyland. Your prize is that you get to walk down Main Street singing Santa Fe.

[39:46] Dan DeLuca: Oh my gosh, cool.

[39:48] Dan DeLuca: That sounds great.

[39:49] David Alpert: That sounds great. Thank you.

[39:53] David Alpert: Now let's hear from some of you.

[39:55] Dan DeLuca: Huh?

[40:02] David Alpert: Dan, we put on social media. Your fans have come with their Disney questions. Here we go.

[40:06] David Alpert: Jedward Graham wonders which is your favorite underrated attraction.

[40:14] Dan DeLuca: I think it's controversial jamboree. Like, I feel like that is that has to be.

[40:19] David Alpert: That is correct.

[40:19] Dan DeLuca: That's no other way.

[40:21] David Alpert: Yeah.

[40:22] David Alpert: Similar thinking, Anna asks, what is the most underrated Disney movie?

[40:27] Dan DeLuca: Oh wow.

[40:29] Dan DeLuca: Country Bear Jamboree.

[40:31] Dan DeLuca: That the country bears, yeah.

[40:33] Dan DeLuca: My gosh, catch it on Disney Plus.

[40:36] Dan DeLuca: I'm the only one who watches it on there, I think.

[40:38] Dan DeLuca: They keep it on there for me.

[40:39] Dan DeLuca: Um Is there another one?

[40:41] Dan DeLuca: Man.

[40:42] Dan DeLuca: There's so many.

[40:43] Dan DeLuca: Oh man.

[40:45] Dan DeLuca: Man, it's almost like what genre?

[40:47] Dan DeLuca: Like, I even think like going back to like Robin Hood, like I love Robin.

[40:52] Dan DeLuca: I love that movie growing up.

[40:54] Dan DeLuca: Um or even things like I don't know.

[41:00] Dan DeLuca: I even love like A Wrinkle in Time.

[41:02] Dan DeLuca: I love that movie.

[41:03] Dan DeLuca: And it like did I not that many people even saw it or or or even necessarily like necessarily liked it, but I loved it.

[41:10] Dan DeLuca: I love that movie.

[41:11] Dan DeLuca: Oprah.

[41:12] Dan DeLuca: My gosh, we need it.

[41:13] David Alpert: Yeah.

[41:14] Dan DeLuca: We need it.

[41:15] David Alpert: Aliyah asks, if you could re-theme any ride to be a newsies theme, which one would you choose?

[41:21] Dan DeLuca: Oh my gosh, that's a great question.

[41:29] Dan DeLuca: Oh man.

[41:32] Dan DeLuca: There's something about like Escape to Santa Fe on the big Thunder Mountain Railroad that that sounds right.

[41:39] David Alpert: Yeah, that does sound right.

[41:41] Dan DeLuca: Or just the cast of newsies is taken over.

[41:48] Dan DeLuca: It's a small world.

[41:48] Dan DeLuca: There's once again, I don't know, there's something about that too.

[41:51] David Alpert: Laura asks, what is your favorite ride at Disneyland?

[41:51] Dan DeLuca: Favorite ride at Disneyland.

[42:01] Dan DeLuca: What is one that you love?

[42:02] Dan DeLuca: I mean, you mentioned Peter Pan's flight.

[42:04] Dan DeLuca: You mentioned Speaker 100.

[42:05] Dan DeLuca: I know, but especially Peter Pan's flight at Disneyland.

[42:08] Dan DeLuca: I mean, the Disney World one is tragically nostalgic.

[42:13] Dan DeLuca: It's I would say tragically nostalgic.

[42:16] Dan DeLuca: I go in there and I'm like, how is this still allowed?

[42:20] Dan DeLuca: But I love it.

[42:22] Dan DeLuca: And the Disneyland, the upgraded version, when you're like, oh, okay.

[42:26] Dan DeLuca: This I see.

[42:26] Dan DeLuca: I see.

[42:27] Dan DeLuca: Watch the YouTube video of Shanghai.

[42:29] David Alpert: Yeah.

[42:29] Dan DeLuca: Shanghai.

[42:30] Dan DeLuca: Stunning.

[42:31] Dan DeLuca: It's so cool.

[42:32] Dan DeLuca: Blew my mind.

[42:33] Dan DeLuca: But the one thing about that though, they used the theme music from Peter Pan 2 Return to Neverland over when you're flying over Neverland, which I was like, this is a bold choice.

[42:46] Dan DeLuca: We're not gonna play You Can Fly, You Can Fly, You Can Fly.

[42:49] Dan DeLuca: Just a bold choice.

[42:51] Dan DeLuca: I mean, I love Return to Neverland.

[42:53] Dan DeLuca: I do too.

[42:54] Dan DeLuca: When I saw Return to Neverland in the movie theater, I was sobbing at the end.

[42:58] Dan DeLuca: It's beautiful.

[42:59] Dan DeLuca: It is beautiful.

[43:00] David Alpert: Okay. Question of the hour.

[43:02] David Alpert: Melissa poses the question if Country Bear Jamboree were to find its way to Broadway, which bear would you be?

[43:08] Dan DeLuca: Oh man.

[43:10] Dan DeLuca: I honestly I would love to play Henry.

[43:14] Dan DeLuca: The the big owl track definitely seems like the princess track, and I would definitely love to have a good time with that.

[43:20] Dan DeLuca: However, I'm not sure my vocal range uh can withstand those low notes like that.

[43:27] Dan DeLuca: I'm not sure if I could, I'm not sure if I could hold up.

[43:29] Dan DeLuca: I'm not sure with with the heavy drinking and uh the low notes, it just might be too much.

[43:35] Dan DeLuca: It it might affect my personal life.

[43:37] Dan DeLuca: I feel like I would get into it too much, and it would affect my relationship with my family, and it might get dark.

[43:43] Dan DeLuca: So we'll say Henry.

[43:44] Dan DeLuca: Let's not do that.

[43:44] Dan DeLuca: Let's do Henry.

[43:45] David Alpert: Craig asks, what was it like surprisingly El Capitan audience watching the news's movie?

[43:50] Dan DeLuca: Oh my god, that was so much fun.

[43:52] Dan DeLuca: That was a blast.

[43:54] Dan DeLuca: Because it was it was a sense of total confusion.

[43:58] Dan DeLuca: Like that, like they were there for the screening.

[44:01] Dan DeLuca: And it was the it was the movie reunion as well.

[44:03] Dan DeLuca: And so whenever the movie credits were done, the screen went up, and it was King of New York.

[44:07] Dan DeLuca: And so there was this sense of what the heck is happening right now.

[44:11] Dan DeLuca: Um, but that was also the same thing I got to sing Santa Fe on my own in front of in that room and all my it was just electrifying knowing that that movie cast was there, uh like with Kenny Ortega in the house and the writers and uh just the the people who were there.

[44:30] Dan DeLuca: You know, you know they were there because their blood pumps with that with with those with that music and with that story.

[44:38] Dan DeLuca: So that was just that was insane.

[44:41] Dan DeLuca: That was insane to uh to be there and to do that.

[44:45] Dan DeLuca: That was so much fun.

[44:47] David Alpert: And finally, Andrew asks, what is your favorite song from Pete's Dragon?

[44:53] Dan DeLuca: Oh what is my favorite song?

[44:57] Dan DeLuca: I mean, there's so much.

[44:58] Dan DeLuca: I'm assuming you're talking about old, old Pete's Dragon, not the new Pete's Dragon.

[45:01] David Alpert: I would say the original, yeah.

[45:03] Dan DeLuca: I mean, Candle on the Water is just a hauntingly beautiful song.

[45:10] Dan DeLuca: But I also love Mickey Rooney.

[45:12] Dan DeLuca: I think he he is a I this sounds like an insult, but like it's not meant to be.

[45:17] Dan DeLuca: I feel like he's a joke to our existence as humanity.

[45:20] Dan DeLuca: Like Mickey Rooney was like this alien who came down to earth to be like Mickey Rooney.

[45:28] Dan DeLuca: Um, and I feel like he's got a lot of incredible moments in that movie as well.

[45:33] Dan DeLuca: But I do love, I honestly did love the new Pete's Dragon as well, and there's some beautiful music in that as well.

[45:38] Dan DeLuca: That Something wild song by like Lindsay Sterling, and like that's a bop.

[45:43] Dan DeLuca: Something wild from the new Peach Dragon is also a bop song.

[45:47] Dan DeLuca: So either way.

[45:50] Dan DeLuca: It's time for some tough choices.

[45:52] Dan DeLuca: Let's play Tweedledee or Tweedledum.

[45:57] David Alpert: It's time for Tweedledee or Tweedledum.

[45:59] David Alpert: I'm gonna give you two options. Let me know which one you prefer. Here we go.

[46:01] David Alpert: Tweedledee or Tweedledum, Space Mountain or Thunder Mountain.

[46:05] Dan DeLuca: Space.

[46:06] David Alpert: Tweedledeeer, Tweedledum, It's a Small World or The Great Movie Ride.

[46:12] Dan DeLuca: Oh.

[46:14] Dan DeLuca: I think it's a small world.

[46:17] David Alpert: Pre-Newsies or post-Newsies.

[46:21] Dan DeLuca: Honestly, both.

[46:23] Dan DeLuca: I'll take both.

[46:24] David Alpert: Uh this one I think I know the answer. Phantasmic or the Main Street Electrical Parade?

[46:29] Dan DeLuca: Phantasmic.

[46:30] David Alpert: Yeah.

[46:31] Dan DeLuca: But Phantasmic version one at Disneyland, yeah.

[46:35] David Alpert: Yes.

[46:36] Dan DeLuca: Yeah.

[46:36] Dan DeLuca: I'm I strongly with that.

[46:38] David Alpert: Uh Tweedledee or Tweedledum King of New York or Watch What Happens.

[46:42] Dan DeLuca: Oh.

[46:44] Dan DeLuca: Dang.

[46:46] Dan DeLuca: I love them both, but King of New York is that was the song I originally loved from Nosies the Most.

[46:52] David Alpert: Sure.

[46:52] Dan DeLuca: And finally, Tweedledee or Tweedledum, eye to eye or stand out.

[46:57] Dan DeLuca: Oh.

[46:59] Dan DeLuca: I die.

[47:00] Dan DeLuca: Yeah.

[47:01] Dan DeLuca: Definitely I die.

[47:03] Dan DeLuca: I can't say that's I love them both very much.

[47:06] Dan DeLuca: But the like listen to each other's hearts, like that is like that's awesome.

[47:11] Dan DeLuca: And for those listening who don't know, but Jack Feldman, who wrote, although he didn't write that song specifically, but Jack Feldman who wrote the lyrics for Newsies, also wrote the lyrics for Goofy Movie, and he's so bored of me talking about Goofy Movie with him.

[47:25] Dan DeLuca: He's like, Do you want to talk about something else?

[47:26] Dan DeLuca: I'm like, no, let's just talk about more about more about a goofy movie.

[47:37] David Alpert: Dan, if you could describe that feeling you get when you see the castle down Main Street when you enter the magic kingdom, what would you say that feeling is?

[47:45] Dan DeLuca: Wow.

[47:47] Dan DeLuca: Hope it's a feeling of hope for in a world that can seem so cynical and so out of alignment.

[48:03] Dan DeLuca: There's something about that symbol where people from all over the world, no matter your background or religion or space you're from, you can go there and I would say the collective is excitement and being young at heart.

[48:35] Dan DeLuca: And people will you stand there and you look at that and you see that no matter what's going on in the world, you you go there and you're like, hmm, there's still all of these people still believe in this magic.

[48:35] Dan DeLuca: All of these people still believe in this childlike wonder.

[48:58] Dan DeLuca: And if that's not something to give you hope, especially on such a grand scale, I don't I don't know what else is.

[49:09] David Alpert: And what's the first thing you're going to do the next time you go to a Disney park?

[49:16] Dan DeLuca: Probably go look at the castle.

[49:17] Dan DeLuca: Like just go look at it.

[49:19] David Alpert: Just exactly that.

[49:21] David Alpert: Well, Dan, thank you for joining me on eTicket, sharing your love of the country bear jamboree, Peter Pan, Pinocchio, that wonderful meal at Casey's Corner, uh, and your time in Newsies. I hope we get to go together one day, but thank you so much for joining me.

[49:35] Dan DeLuca: I'm so honored to be here. Thanks for reaching out. This is so much fun.

[49:38] David Alpert: Of course. And we'll see you at the parks.

[49:54] Dan DeLuca: Oh boy, thanks for listening.