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[0:06] Elliott Mattox: We'll take a glass together.

[0:09] Caleb Dicke: This is Equity One, Broadway's Happy Hour.

[0:12] Elliott Mattox: Pour yourself a drink and join us as we chat about life, theater, and everything in between.

[0:19] Elliott Mattox: I'm Elliott Mattox.

[0:20] Caleb Dicke: And I'm Caleb Dicke.

[0:21] Elliott Mattox: Join us for your Equity One.

[0:30] Caleb Dicke: Woo!

[0:30] Elliott Mattox: Hello!

[0:32] Caleb Dicke: Hi here!

[0:35] Elliott Mattox: Welcome to Broadway Podcast Network Happy Hour.

[0:39] Elliott Mattox: I am Elliott.

[0:40] Caleb Dicke: And I'm Caleb.

[0:41] Elliott Mattox: And we're the hosts of Equity One: Broadway's Happy Hour.

[0:45] Elliott Mattox: Here on Broadway Podcast Network Happy Hour, we sit and chat with some of your favorite podcast hosts from BPN.

[0:53] Elliott Mattox: And uh we are very excited today to sit and chat with some friends from uh Ben Rimalower's Broken Records with Daniel Nolen.

[1:03] Elliott Mattox: It's Ben Rimalower and Daniel Nolen!

[1:06] Ben Rimalower: Hello.

[1:09] Daniel Nolen: Hello, cheers, everyone.

[1:11] Ben Rimalower: Welcome.

[1:15] Daniel Nolen: Yes, we've got a Canada dry.

[1:19] Ben Rimalower: I'm the teetotaler.

[1:22] Daniel Nolen: And I'm drinking beer from a wine glass, which is just such a metaphor for my lifestyle right now.

[1:29] Ben Rimalower: I kind of love that.

[1:30] Daniel Nolen: I wish I was with you with the glass.

[1:32] Ben Rimalower: I love it.

[1:33] Daniel Nolen: Where are you?

[1:33] Ben Rimalower: You look like you're outside on some like screened-in porch or something.

[1:36] Ben Rimalower: It's kind of like a screened-in porch, but it's all glass.

[1:39] Ben Rimalower: I'm in a glass box of emotion.

[1:41] Daniel Nolen: Okay.

[1:42] Ben Rimalower: But I am facing a beautiful like uh back porch.

[1:45] Daniel Nolen: Can you can you give the people a taste of your view?

[1:48] Ben Rimalower: Um, yeah, I'm all hooked up to some wires, but let's see if I can do this.

[1:53] Ben Rimalower: Boom!

[1:56] Ben Rimalower: Nature for the day.

[2:03] Daniel Nolen: That is so lovely.

[2:04] Daniel Nolen: And just sitting there, nothing like a nothing like a beer outside.

[2:08] Daniel Nolen: That's just like heaven on earth.

[2:11] Ben Rimalower: And she's a fat tire, because that's what I am a fat tire.

[2:15] Daniel Nolen: I know it's very Henry David Thoreau of you.

[2:17] Daniel Nolen: You're like at Walden Pond having a brew ski.

[2:20] Ben Rimalower: Yes.

[2:20] Ben Rimalower: I was the um Night Thoreau Spit in Jail was my first play I was in in high school.

[2:26] Daniel Nolen: Who?

[2:27] Ben Rimalower: The Night Thoreau Spit in Jail.

[2:29] Daniel Nolen: Oh, I have not heard of it.

[2:30] Ben Rimalower: It's a weird play from the 90s.

[2:32] Ben Rimalower: It's all about Thoreau.

[2:34] Daniel Nolen: I love it.

[2:35] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[2:35] Daniel Nolen: I want to read it.

[2:36] Daniel Nolen: I wish I'd seen you.

[2:38] Ben Rimalower: Well I know.

[2:39] Daniel Nolen: Can you can you tell us a little bit more about that production?

[2:42] Ben Rimalower: Um there is a dream sequence, and I think I played uh Confederate soldier in the dream sequence.

[2:47] Daniel Nolen: Maybe that would scan because you were also dream curly.

[2:51] Ben Rimalower: Yes.

[2:56] Daniel Nolen: I peeked.

[2:57] Ben Rimalower: Dream Valley.

[2:59] Daniel Nolen: I was about to say speak for yourself.

[3:00] Ben Rimalower: I know.

[3:01] Ben Rimalower: I said I said I corrected.

[3:02] Ben Rimalower: I said I peeked.

[3:04] Ben Rimalower: I'm on the rise.

[3:05] Ben Rimalower: Um and the fall.

[3:07] Ben Rimalower: Uh I I am having a Tom Collins.

[3:10] Ben Rimalower: It's become one of my favorite drinks today.

[3:12] Daniel Nolen: Oh, a Tom Collins.

[3:14] Ben Rimalower: Yes, because I I added a little bit of uh cherry juice.

[3:18] Daniel Nolen: Oh, okay.

[3:20] Ben Rimalower: It's delicious.

[3:20] Daniel Nolen: Really yummy.

[3:21] Daniel Nolen: I see.

[3:22] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, and um, it has been a goddamn day.

[3:26] Ben Rimalower: I am so tired.

[3:29] Ben Rimalower: There is you know there's these days in this quarantine like time when it you have like pockets of literally doing nothing, and then randomly you'll have a day where it's like, why am I so busy?

[3:41] Daniel Nolen: Like there's nothing going on.

[3:43] Daniel Nolen: Yes, yeah, totally.

[3:45] Ben Rimalower: Like I scarfed down my dinner, and then now I'm having my after dinner drink and dessert, of course.

[3:52] Ben Rimalower: But it's just like I'm so happy to finally sit down and have a cocktail.

[3:58] Daniel Nolen: Well, I mean, yesterday for me, it was like I didn't have I didn't think I had anything, and then I ended up having two grocery deliveries because the first one didn't have like half the stuff I needed, you know.

[4:09] Ben Rimalower: We all know the struggle.

[4:10] Daniel Nolen: So I had yeah, and so I had to make another delivery at the last minute from Whole Foods, and so like you know, they were just coming throughout the day, and um putting away groceries is so stressful now, you know.

[4:21] Daniel Nolen: It's like you have to like maybe disinfect and like then disinfect the kitchen and then put them away, and then like by then uh end of that, you're just too exhausted to cook, so I end up eating cereal again.

[4:31] Ben Rimalower: You know, now now walk us through like your Instacart journey.

[4:35] Ben Rimalower: Like, is it really checking in real time to see what's going on and like talk us through that?

[4:41] Daniel Nolen: Well, it depends on which service I'm using.

[4:44] Daniel Nolen: So I've kind of given up on Amazon just because it's like impossible, it's like yeah, you know, Hamilton tickets, it's impossible to get so um I I did an Instacart one time, but that was you know, they were like it's gonna be delivered tomorrow, and then like a week later I got it.

[5:00] Daniel Nolen: Um, so the two I'm using the most right now is Whole Foods uh delivery through Prime and Target.

[5:10] Daniel Nolen: So you can do like they have like a delivery service called Shipt, and you can uh do like a free trial of that service, like a month or whatever, and that's what I'm doing right now.

[5:21] Daniel Nolen: And uh get delivery from Target, and it's I always get a window, there's always delivery times listed.

[5:27] Ben Rimalower: But I didn't know, yeah.

[5:29] Daniel Nolen: So Target, you know, shout out.

[5:31] Daniel Nolen: And the only downside is it seems like most of the stuff that's available online is is packaged stuff.

[5:38] Daniel Nolen: So they have like meat and dairy and produce, but not like they have like one option for everything.

[5:47] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, so it's very limited, and if they don't have it, they don't have it.

[5:50] Daniel Nolen: Um if you don't have it yet, you need to start ordering meat and chicken now because the factories are closing, so supply is going down.

[5:58] Ben Rimalower: So if you don't have meat stock up on it now, good to know if you if you eat meat.

[6:03] Daniel Nolen: I don't know if you are.

[6:03] Ben Rimalower: I do, I do.

[6:07] Ben Rimalower: Um, I always have bacon on everything, like pan bacon.

[6:12] Ben Rimalower: Um bacon.

[6:14] Daniel Nolen: I love bacon.

[6:14] Ben Rimalower: Uh anyway, so that's good to know though, because you know, I don't have flour, I don't have hand sanitizer, I don't have a mask, I don't have paper towels.

[6:22] Ben Rimalower: It's just like I, you know, kind of missed out on everything so far.

[6:26] Daniel Nolen: So the meat I will have.

[6:27] Ben Rimalower: Okay, you're ahead of the curve.

[6:30] Elliott Mattox: Ben, what is your uh grocery journey been like?

[6:34] Ben Rimalower: I mean, just throwing shit against the wall.

[6:36] Ben Rimalower: I mean, hearing Daniel say that Prime is working.

[6:39] Ben Rimalower: I I can't get a Prime slot.

[6:42] Ben Rimalower: I did find this new app that I've been telling everybody about called um of course now I can't freaking find it, but oh, Max Delivery, and I was like singing its praises.

[6:51] Ben Rimalower: You can get all these like Pat Lafrida butchery and the little pie shop and like pharmacy and all this stuff, and including the good Sudafed without showing your ID for the crystal master.

[7:03] Daniel Nolen: Nice.

[7:04] Ben Rimalower: Oh, good to know.

[7:05] Ben Rimalower: So I've been raving about it, and then I went to use it again today, and now it's been like five hours, and I haven't gotten my confirmation email, and like it's super sketchy.

[7:16] Ben Rimalower: And I'm like, who did I just give $300 to?

[7:19] Ben Rimalower: And like, what's gonna happen?

[7:20] Daniel Nolen: Oh no.

[7:21] Daniel Nolen: Oh that is such such a struggle.

[7:25] Ben Rimalower: I mean, I've been we've been away.

[7:27] Ben Rimalower: I'm in Kentucky right now, and um, and it it's a much easier to grocery shop here.

[7:34] Ben Rimalower: Big big stores, we can go in, they're well stocked, big cars, we've got exactly cars to drive things in, it's very important.

[7:42] Daniel Nolen: So that's been really lucky.

[7:43] Ben Rimalower: I don't know what I'm gonna do when I get back to the city.

[7:46] Daniel Nolen: Well, I I'll tell you, it's just I haven't left the house in over a month, I don't think it's just delivery delivery, and the challenge is just timing it right, you know.

[7:54] Daniel Nolen: So it's like by the time you run out, you have another one coming.

[7:57] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, oh yeah.

[7:58] Daniel Nolen: Oh where are you, Caleb?

[8:01] Caleb Dicke: I'm in Ohio.

[8:04] Ben Rimalower: Wait, are you really are you really in Kansas or Ohio?

[8:06] Caleb Dicke: I'm in Ohio.

[8:07] Caleb Dicke: I just love this Kansas sweater I had got it in college.

[8:10] Ben Rimalower: Oh, I love that.

[8:11] Caleb Dicke: And it's like the perfect like oversized sweater during quarantine.

[8:15] Ben Rimalower: I love a quarantine sweater.

[8:16] Caleb Dicke: Oh yeah, I know it's important to have a uniform right now.

[8:20] Ben Rimalower: Totally.

[8:21] Caleb Dicke: Oh, yeah.

[8:21] Caleb Dicke: Although I have to say, my uniform now is just tank tops because I have so many, and it's like you know, May now, so we're going into summer, so I'm trying to you know, uh manifest my uh hopeful summer plans by just dressing for it around the house.

[8:36] Ben Rimalower: Oh Ben and I'm so depressed about that.

[8:40] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, Ben and I have Fire Island plans that are like kind of up in the air right now.

[8:44] Ben Rimalower: We have we have yes, we still have a month.

[8:47] Daniel Nolen: Are you going?

[8:48] Ben Rimalower: When are you going?

[8:49] Ben Rimalower: All the months we're supposed to, but now not.

[8:52] Ben Rimalower: Well, they moved our they moved our first week to October.

[8:55] Daniel Nolen: Oh so theoretically, we're like gonna be there forever.

[8:58] Ben Rimalower: But we're supposed to be there again May 14th, but like that is very unlikely.

[9:04] Ben Rimalower: And uh we're trying to fight it out with the landlord and get some price reduction.

[9:08] Daniel Nolen: I mean, I'm not even optimistic about June.

[9:11] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, you know, what's gonna or July?

[9:13] Ben Rimalower: I mean, I don't know what's happening, but I'm so depressed about it.

[9:15] Daniel Nolen: I know.

[9:16] Daniel Nolen: Same.

[9:16] Daniel Nolen: I I booked a um a vacation to Provincetown in June, and I just don't know.

[9:23] Daniel Nolen: I mean, I'm not canceling it just yet, but uh when in June.

[9:28] Ben Rimalower: Early.

[9:30] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, right.

[9:31] Daniel Nolen: That's not gonna happen.

[9:32] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, I know.

[9:34] Daniel Nolen: But uh but my my whole my my outlook from the beginning of this was like you know, things got really shitty really fast, so yeah, they could just as easily get better fast, yeah.

[9:47] Ben Rimalower: Yes, in my mind.

[9:49] Daniel Nolen: So I don't know.

[9:52] Daniel Nolen: Maybe you know, it's you never know, week to week things change, and yeah, I don't know.

[10:00] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, in the meantime, I'm baking.

[10:02] Ben Rimalower: I don't know if everyone saw, but I for my dessert, I this week I homemade Samoa's Girl Scout cookies.

[10:11] Daniel Nolen: That is fancy.

[10:13] Daniel Nolen: They are you kidding me?

[10:14] Daniel Nolen: Delicious, they look like you could sell those, yeah.

[10:17] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, that's quality.

[10:20] Ben Rimalower: Bring that whole closer.

[10:21] Daniel Nolen: Let me see.

[10:22] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, you you can you can see that the chocolate is is off the edges, so it's not a manufactured Girl Scout cookie.

[10:29] Daniel Nolen: Okay, I see the the baking sheet heads.

[10:31] Daniel Nolen: It's got that that rustic quality that we like so much.

[10:34] Ben Rimalower: Oh, yeah, it's the contestant.

[10:36] Ben Rimalower: It's like an art seasonal Samoa.

[10:38] Daniel Nolen: Well, if I've learned anything from the Bon Appétit Test Kitchen, it's that it's that homemade baked goods should look homemade.

[10:46] Ben Rimalower: Right, right.

[10:47] Ben Rimalower: Exactly.

[10:49] Daniel Nolen: I think that would go great with a bourbon.

[10:50] Daniel Nolen: Any kind of like oh yeah, yeah.

[10:53] Daniel Nolen: Totally.

[10:54] Daniel Nolen: Caramel, chocolate, coconut.

[10:56] Daniel Nolen: On point.

[10:57] Ben Rimalower: It's so good.

[10:59] Elliott Mattox: Um what's been keeping you all entertained?

[11:02] Ben Rimalower: Well, I just watched um the new season of Better Call Saul.

[11:07] Ben Rimalower: And I love I mean I'm finally branching out.

[11:11] Ben Rimalower: I spent like the first like month or so of the quarantine.

[11:13] Ben Rimalower: Like, all I watched was Seth Rudetsky and Cheers.

[11:17] Ben Rimalower: And I just like had no emotional space for like I didn't want new stories, new characters.

[11:23] Ben Rimalower: I just like couldn't do it.

[11:25] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[11:25] Ben Rimalower: And then I but I've come out of my shell.

[11:26] Ben Rimalower: I'm up to date on Drag Race.

[11:28] Ben Rimalower: I watched all of Nora from Queens, now Better Call Saul.

[11:32] Ben Rimalower: I watched Hollywood, which I am obsessed with.

[11:36] Daniel Nolen: So good.

[11:36] Ben Rimalower: I loved Hollywood.

[11:37] Ben Rimalower: I've been in one night.

[11:39] Ben Rimalower: We watched all in one night.

[11:40] Daniel Nolen: Wow.

[11:41] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[11:42] Ben Rimalower: Um, it's you know, I've been hearing Patty in.

[11:45] Ben Rimalower: I've been hearing different opinions about well, look, there's plenty to complain about.

[11:49] Ben Rimalower: It's Ryan Murphy writing, it's exposed.

[11:51] Ben Rimalower: You know, there's but it goes down real easy.

[11:54] Ben Rimalower: I mean, it's not like the politician, it's it's on the much higher end of Ryan Murphy, and every single performance, soup to nuts, they're all so fantastic.

[12:03] Ben Rimalower: I mean, you know, it really is an amazing cast.

[12:06] Ben Rimalower: It's a little bit too on the head sometimes, but because it's so um gay candy, we call it yeah, exactly.

[12:13] Daniel Nolen: You can ex you can accept it, and you're like, it's the details are there.

[12:16] Ben Rimalower: Like there's shots where you're like, okay, he just did the shots so he can show off this like ashtray from the 40s because it's so gorgeous in the color.

[12:24] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, I'm here for that though.

[12:25] Daniel Nolen: I love I love good uh art direction.

[12:28] Ben Rimalower: Yes, yeah.

[12:29] Daniel Nolen: Um, I have to watch it.

[12:30] Daniel Nolen: I um maybe I should just do it now.

[12:33] Ben Rimalower: I mean, I don't know if I'm I was gonna say I'm gonna I need to get in the right place for it.

[12:37] Daniel Nolen: I don't know if I'm ever really in the place for a Ryan Murphy thing, but I mean I just you know, we're in such a Patty golden age right now.

[12:44] Ben Rimalower: This really is the time.

[12:45] Daniel Nolen: Yes.

[12:45] Daniel Nolen: And this is like the um, what do you call the the cake topper?

[12:49] Daniel Nolen: The you know, the I mean the icing on the cake or the pinnacle or like the little the bride and groom on the top of the cake.

[12:55] Ben Rimalower: The cake topper, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[12:56] Daniel Nolen: Thank you.

[12:57] Daniel Nolen: I mean, this Patty, this is her playing like if Norma Desmond, instead of going crazy, had like, you know, married a studio head and like, you know, been Jewish.

[13:06] Ben Rimalower: Yes, like she's ever done on screen.

[13:11] Ben Rimalower: I mean, she's never she's never had anything like this, this big and important of a role.

[13:16] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, that's cool.

[13:17] Daniel Nolen: Have you seen the side by sides of her in Evita in this wig?

[13:21] Ben Rimalower: They're like almost the same wig again.

[13:23] Daniel Nolen: Oh wow.

[13:24] Daniel Nolen: The wig is almost too much.

[13:25] Daniel Nolen: The points you're like, okay, that's definitely like a lace front, but like it's really lace and curls.

[13:32] Ben Rimalower: It's Paul Huntley, though, I think.

[13:33] Daniel Nolen: Oh, really?

[13:34] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[13:35] Daniel Nolen: I love a good wig.

[13:36] Ben Rimalower: It's gorgeous.

[13:37] Daniel Nolen: Yes.

[13:40] Ben Rimalower: Patty LePone story.

[13:41] Daniel Nolen: Yes, please.

[13:42] Ben Rimalower: No, they have to they can't say no.

[13:45] Daniel Nolen: Better not suck.

[13:47] Ben Rimalower: So, uh, a hundred years ago, I was working as an assistant to Lonnie Price, and we were doing A Little Night Music at the Ravinia Festival outside Chicago, and Patty was playing Desiree, and she was coming there straight from vacation somewhere. And she was like, in every phone conversation she had with me and Lonnie, or with the costume designer, or with Paul Huntley, who's doing the wigs, she would talk about how she loves to tan, and she's like, I'm like a chicken out of spit, 15 minutes turn, 15 minutes turn. You know, so somehow there was like a lot of issues with her wigging for Desiree and A Little Night Music. And all the costumes and everything had been shipped to the Ravinia Festival, except there was a new wig, and I was the last one in New York.

So it became my job to go to Paul Huntley's studio and pick up this wig to bring to Chicago. And, um, so I go there and I'm like all excited to meet Paul Huntley, because of course, like, you know, he's just like the Broadway wig designer for decades. And so his assistant or somebody is boxing it up, and he's like in the back, and I just hear this voice boom out, and he's like, um, I understand she's been tanning. Um, and I'm like, yeah, you know, she's like a chicken on a spit. And he's like, and um, I'm like, oh, yeah. He's like, well, um, if she's a shade darker than this, you tell her she's coarse and common. As he's like pointing to this like golden blonde, you know, brown red. Coarse and common.

[15:22] Daniel Nolen: I love hilarious.

[15:24] Ben Rimalower: Oh my god. Uh, we, I, you mentioned wigs, and the first thing I thought of is something I've been watching is The Morning Show on Apple TV.

[15:33] Daniel Nolen: Like Jennifer Aniston.

[15:34] Ben Rimalower: Oh, yeah.

[15:36] Daniel Nolen: And because I just thought of Reese Witherspoon, because it's like she's like, I'm not Reese, I'm a redhead brunette from the South. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, but that wig is talk about coarse and common, honey. That wig, coarse, common and thirsty.

[15:53] Ben Rimalower: But I like it. We watched the first episode. I will say the first episode was a little like a little slow. Like it, I felt like it wasn't moving. I was like, okay, I see where this is going. I need us to get there.

[16:05] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[16:06] Ben Rimalower: Um, but the cast is great. Billy Crudup is so good.

[16:10] Daniel Nolen: So I've been in love with him since so sexy.

[16:13] Ben Rimalower: What was it? Uh, Hollywood. What was it called? You know, with Kate Hudson.

[16:19] Daniel Nolen: Those people.

[16:20] Ben Rimalower: Um, Almost Famous.

[16:21] Daniel Nolen: Oh yeah.

[16:23] Ben Rimalower: That's okay.

[16:24] Daniel Nolen: Yes. Love, love that film. Francis McDormand as the mom.

[16:28] Ben Rimalower: Um, what's the deal with him though? Didn't he like fuck over Mary Louise Parker so he could be with um Claire?

[16:37] Daniel Nolen: Claire Moore.

[16:38] Ben Rimalower: Yeah. I'm too broadly right now.

[16:41] Daniel Nolen: Oh, poor Mary Louise.

[16:43] Ben Rimalower: I really love, um, this is a deep cut, but he does the Side by Side by Susan Blackwell where they make brownies and it's a treat. He is like, he is like so disarmed by her, it's really fun.

[16:54] Daniel Nolen: I love that show. I mean, I was, I've, well, that's the other thing besides Seth and Shears that I was into, like in the early quarantine days. I took the whole title of Show Journey all over again.

[17:02] Ben Rimalower: Oh, yeah.

[17:05] Daniel Nolen: And I watched the YouTube series and I was listening to it and all that, and oh, and it started because I saw the cast on Star Desky, which was a great episode, and um, but uh, but then when I was still like needing more, I watched their episode of Side by Side by Susan Blackwell, and then I went back for some of my old favorites, you know, Jonathan Groff and all that, you know, Lynn and Moss and I'm gonna be able to do it. She's like my favorite. I love her.

[17:30] Ben Rimalower: Totally. Brilliant, and Heidi, too. All of them.

[17:35] Daniel Nolen: Mm-hmm.

[17:36] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, Susan is, Susan's, she's actually a dream guest for the podcast. So if you're out there, Susan.

[17:43] Daniel Nolen: If you're listening.

[17:45] Ben Rimalower: Yeah. Um, Daniel, what about you? What are you watching?

[17:49] Daniel Nolen: Um, I, well, it's funny. I'm also watching Cheers. Uh, I recently, I had watched some of it before in my life, but I had never really just like fallen in love with it. And recently I just been have been craving that like half hour sitcom comfort food. It's just like, you know, everyone's in this bar after work. It's like the third place thing. That was such a big deal in the sitcoms world in like the 80s and 90s. And that's just really hitting the spot for me. So I've been watching a lot of Cheers. I've also been watching a lot of Turner Classic Movies. Um, just like old movies from the 40s and 50s, Betty Davis, Marilyn Monroe, and for some reason that's just really hitting the spot, also.

[18:34] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[18:35] Daniel Nolen: Um, yeah, and that's, and then I finally caught up to Drag Race, which just, you know, took my life in a very joyous direction.

[18:43] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, we love, I always hate it when they keep both girls at the end. I'm always like, okay, well, we have to eliminate, we have to eliminate joy, Caleb.

[18:51] Daniel Nolen: Do you hate people my dreams coming true?

[18:54] Ben Rimalower: I'm like, someone has to fail.

[18:55] Daniel Nolen: And like, Ru's getting soft in his old age.

[18:57] Ben Rimalower: They did a good job though. I thought it was the right time to do it.

[19:02] Daniel Nolen: I, it was the right time, yeah. I mean, I was afraid he was gonna do it for one of those other, you know, Me Too necklace, and I did not want him to. But this was the one because I just, I love, I love Jackie. I actually thought she won. In my opinion, I thought Heidi's sleeves may have won. Uh, but um, but for me, it was Jackie's win. So I was very happy to see her stay this week. Spoiler alert.

[19:26] Ben Rimalower: Oops.

[19:27] Daniel Nolen: No, no, I agree with that. Um, but I, uh, Heidi is my favorite. So I was like so Heidi has charisma.

[19:35] Ben Rimalower: She, I love gays.

[19:37] Daniel Nolen: Yes, very funny.

[19:42] Ben Rimalower: I will, I will say I'm really, really hoping now Jada is my pick to win the crown.

[19:48] Daniel Nolen: Really?

[19:48] Ben Rimalower: She has been mine from the beginning. I think she's, I love her, yeah.

[19:52] Daniel Nolen: I love her. You know, all just skill set of all of them. I mean, she's always on point. Funny. Yeah, it's so refreshing because she's such like, I'm trying to think of someone to compare her to, but like she has that like pageant background, so she's very poised and polished. It's just so refreshing to see a queen like that nowadays, not a queen who's like already famous on Instagram, has been watching the show since they were kids and like knows all the lingo and how to market themselves and is already like hawking merch the first episode, you know.

[20:21] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, like Jada is someone who's actually like, like kind of taking the journey of self-discovery along with like her toolbox of, you know, drag talent that she brought with her, and yeah, and so that's thrilling to watch. See, she's, it seems like she's coming off very well. It seems like she's doing the competition the way she knows how to do competition, growing, being herself, and not like, not like, um, worried about a catchphrase.

[20:47] Daniel Nolen: Totally, totally. What are your thoughts on Crystal?

[20:51] Ben Rimalower: I like Crystal.

[20:53] Daniel Nolen: I'm not a fan.

[20:54] Ben Rimalower: I'm just gonna say it, honey. I'm not a fan.

[20:56] Daniel Nolen: Sure.

[20:57] Ben Rimalower: I think she's like, actually like I've seen she has the most growth, maybe she's taking the most notes. She really stepped up this last week with the case.

[21:05] Daniel Nolen: She was my favorite.

[21:06] Ben Rimalower: I think she was. She's probably, it's looking like maybe one of the more versatile queens. Like she's shown a lot of like, they were like at first, they were like, We need to see you look different. And she was like, Okay, great. I'll look literally all ways. Like, I'll do anything. I mean, she has kind of good energy, like she might be, her energy might be too good.

[21:27] Daniel Nolen: She's like so not controversial, like, oh, sure.

[21:30] Ben Rimalower: You know, I don't, I could see her leaving soon, but I do, I do agree with everything you guys said.

[21:35] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Maybe, yeah, and it'll depend too. I, you know, I was thinking the other day, this is very depressing, but the, you know, the finale is always filmed around this time. Yeah, and that's not gonna happen the same way. So I'm like, how are they even gonna film the finale? As, and especially like, you know, there's gonna have to be some rearranging with the, um, final four queens, it seems like with the disqualifications, etc. So, um, so I, who knows what the end will look like, it will look very different.

[22:11] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, a lot of things up in the air, and um, yeah, I, that's what I'm thinking about as well with the Sherry Pie stuff because she's doing well. Like, I feel like she is probably in the top four, definitely. I feel like is she gonna get bumped and someone else gets to take her place, or are they gonna just have a top three? I mean, there's some questions. I don't know. We'll have to see. This is all, it's all stay too riveting.

[22:35] Daniel Nolen: Speaking of on Drag Race, one more thing I've been watching is We're Here on HBO. Um, with the, yeah, it's with Shangela, Bob the Drag Queen, and Eureka, and they go, they go to a small town, and they put three of the residents like in drag and like put on a show for these like small conservative towns. So it's like Queer Eye kind of esque, but I love it. There's like, they have trans people on there and uh, Silla E. Like is that like kind of, it's like, it's like, um, you know, it's like someone's mother who maybe disowned their child for being gay that wants to try and make amends so they try and put themselves in the world. There was like a, there's a trans couple that wanted to kind of have a redo of their wedding because of the, like they were Mormon and there was a lot of like issues, so they do like a performance wedding. It's just a lot of really cool stories in these small towns, and those queens are so good at the show.

[23:45] Ben Rimalower: I love, what is this on?

[23:47] Daniel Nolen: It's on HBO.

[23:48] Ben Rimalower: Oh yeah.

[23:49] Daniel Nolen: Oh, okay. It's on HBO.

[23:52] Ben Rimalower: I saw a trailer for it, and I texted it to my friend who is a big fan of Drag Race, and she was like, Oh yeah, I've been watching, so apparently it's already been on. It's very good. I really recommend it. It's probably my favorite thing, one of my favorite things I've watched. I mean, I like Angela so much. I'm so glad. I mean, I love all of them, but especially Shangela. I'm so glad she's getting this opportunity. And you know, Ben and I saw her last summer in Fire Island. She hosted Invasion 4th of July. Um, and then she did her one woman show that night. And she is just so, I mean, having seen her on the show, you know, so long ago when she was like, you know, this messy kind of queen. Now she's just so polished and just so professional, and you know, it was like seeing um, like Kathy Griffin meets Dolly Parton.

[24:48] Ben Rimalower: I mean, it was just like she would be a good Dolly.

[24:51] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, yeah.

[24:52] Ben Rimalower: She would be fantastic.

[24:53] Daniel Nolen: An amazing Dolly, a professional.

[24:55] Ben Rimalower: Yes.

[24:58] Daniel Nolen: Getting out those cards.

[25:00] Ben Rimalower: She just could get cards. It would just be a good bit for her.

[25:04] Daniel Nolen: That is really great casting.

[25:06] Ben Rimalower: Instead of coming off the training, I think Jennifer Lewis has done it actually.

[25:10] Daniel Nolen: Oh, hopefully.

[25:12] Ben Rimalower: Oh, yeah.

[25:14] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, it's like her mentor, yeah.

[25:16] Ben Rimalower: I think she lived with her, still does.

[25:19] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, totally.

[25:20] Ben Rimalower: She did, yeah.

[25:21] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[25:21] Ben Rimalower: That's a fun story. Um, if people don't know Jennifer Lewis, like, forget, get into Jennifer Lewis, but like my favorite thing. You can hear her talk a lot about her life on RuPaul's podcast. The interview with Jennifer Lewis is hilarious.

[25:38] Daniel Nolen: It is like so good.

[25:38] Ben Rimalower: That interview is really good. And it's so funny because like she is just going balls to the wall the whole time, and Rue's just like screaming.

[25:47] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[25:48] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, it's like Rue like never gets a word in.

[25:50] Daniel Nolen: No, it's so, it's so, so good.

[25:53] Ben Rimalower: Um, well, we start every interview on our show by asking our guests what first got them interested in the arts when they were a young person. So, um, Ben, why don't we start with you? What first got you the oldest bitten?

[26:08] Ben Rimalower: Um, chronologically when I was young in the formula. Um, I was, uh, I was very lucky that, uh, we lived in New York City until I was five. Um, and, uh, my, um, my grandparents that I was very close with, uh, saw a lot of theater, and actually my uncle, my mom's brother, it, uh, now he doesn't work in theater anymore, but when he was younger, he had, and he actually was the, um, uh, assistant director of the Broadway revival of West Side Story with Debbie Allen. Um, so, uh, he took me to see that and, uh, to, and he's, he had friends in a lot of shows. Like he took me to see, um, Sandy Duncan and Peter Pan. Um, and, uh, and then I also saw like my grandparents took me to Annie and, uh, The Whiz and stuff.

[27:02] Ben Rimalower: So like I was just really like, uh, inducted into it. And then we moved to LA when I was five, and it was just kind of was like out of sight, out of mind. So I didn't really discover it again until on my own when I was like 13, 14, getting into like Phantom and Lame Miz. But it was definitely like in my early childhood, just something that I took for granted. And I really wanted to see Evita because it had the most amazing commercial, and they wouldn't let me because they said it was too grown up, and I thought it was about an Argentine boxer because the balcony of the Casa Rosada with those wires, it looked like a boxing. So I was like, oh, it's about boxing, it's too violent, that's why they won't let me see it. I just believed that for a very long time.

[27:48] Daniel Nolen: That is so funny. Like I love the idea of like how we think of things when we're kids, like the just like the little things we like misconstrue and think are one thing that are totally another. Um, I would love to see you see Evita for the first time and be like, when is the boxing going to happen?

[28:02] Ben Rimalower: Totally, yeah.

[28:09] Daniel Nolen: Well, that happened to me with that. Um, there was that movie Carol and that movie Brooklyn. Yes, this is I can't I for some reason I just fused them in my mind, and I was flying somewhere and I watched Brooklyn thinking it was gonna be this lesbian movie. She's in love with the boy, like when's the girl gonna happen? And then it was like, you know, an hour and a half in, and she hadn't been gay yet. And I was just like, this poor guy, she's been stringing him along this really long relationship. I was just it's that confidence mixed with ignorance that really gets you in trouble.

[28:48] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, but I watched a movie lately that was like totally like weird turn, like made no sense, like was not what I was expecting it to be at all. Like it was like Blake Lively and Anna Kendrick. I'm trying to remember the name. Um, a favor, favorite, yeah, uh, simple favor or something like that. Yeah, it was like so like twisty and campy and strange. Like I was like, this is a lot.

[29:14] Daniel Nolen: Was it good?

[29:17] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, yeah.

[29:18] Daniel Nolen: Blake Lively was great at it, actually. She's beautiful, and I love Anna Kendrick. I mean, I uh, it's canon on our pod that I do not like Anna Kendrick.

[29:29] Ben Rimalower: Um, I love her.

[29:32] Daniel Nolen: It's like a simple favor. I find that so appropriate because I just think of both of them as so simple, you know, like Blake and Anna. Just like I just get so happy when I'm the nice one. It just all enjoy it. Anna Kendrick was Anna Kendrick in this movie. So if she's not for you, then you know, it's probably not for you. But Blake Lively was very good. She kind of surprised me.

[29:55] Ben Rimalower: Look, I'm pouring, I'm pouring the beer. I've gotten my second one to be. And I'll crack open another ginger ale.

[30:02] Daniel Nolen: Go for it.

[30:05] Ben Rimalower: Yes. Yay, baby. Daniel, what about you? Tell us about you as a youngster.

[30:11] Daniel Nolen: Wow. I mean, it's so cliché, but of course, like, I mean, my the first thing that I remember really like kind of changing my world was The Wizard of Oz. And I was obsessed with Judy. And, um, you know, I would I would get on this, I had this little cassette recorder that my parents got me, and I would like record myself like reciting the entire script and singing all the songs and doing all the voices of the Wizard of Oz. Um, and then that summer, or not that summer, that year, my grandparents took me to like the state fair and they were doing like Wizard of Oz on Ice, and I saw that and I thought, uh, uh, and you know, I was just like obsessed with everything, you know, Dorothy Judy related.

Um, but then my first, um, I you know I grew I grew up watching movie musicals and all that, but my first show I saw was when the touring production, I'm from Oklahoma, so in Oklahoma City, the touring production of Les Miz came through. And my second grade teacher, Mrs. Cranford, shout out. She her son, uh, Jay Cranford was in the tour of Les Miz. And so we got tickets and we went to see him, you know. And I had no idea what Les Miz was or anything. Like I think I knew what Phantom was, but other than that, I had, you know, no concept of like Broadway. So we went and saw that, and it just like completely like, you know, changed my life, and um we got to go backstage and like see everything with him after.

And when I'd been in her class, she had always been going on these New York trips. And so I was always kind of aware of what Broadway was because she would bring back like the playbills and the brochures for us to look at. But um that was really a turning point. So like Les Miz was my first show and then after that I got into of course Phantom and all that.

[32:08] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[32:08] Daniel Nolen: And so that became my kind of um, you know, gateway Broadway. Was this at the Civic Center that it came through?

[32:15] Ben Rimalower: Right.

[32:16] Daniel Nolen: Yes. We went to we went to school in Oklahoma City. Did you go to uh Oklahoma City University?

[32:21] Ben Rimalower: We didn't go stars.

[32:22] Daniel Nolen: Wait were you music theater majors?

[32:25] Ben Rimalower: I was you were dance in music theater.

[32:27] Daniel Nolen: Oh my goodness. I wonder if we know the same peeps.

[32:30] Ben Rimalower: I'm sure that we do.

[32:32] Daniel Nolen: Oh my now have you been back to visit Oklahoma City? Is your family still there? Have you?

[32:36] Ben Rimalower: Yes, yeah so they live so I'm from Guthrie Oklahoma.

[32:40] Daniel Nolen: Sure.

[32:40] Ben Rimalower: Yes. Uh Victorian Bed and Breakfast Capital First Capital of Oklahoma. So it's like way cooler now that I've left it's like so cool.

[32:51] Daniel Nolen: Yeah it's like coffee shops and like you know hipsters festivals and hipsters now. Back then it's just like you know Christians and antique stores.

[32:59] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[33:00] Daniel Nolen: And now it's gay antique stores.

[33:02] Ben Rimalower: Yeah now yeah um but they actually really do have a really great theater there called the Pollard did you ever work there?

[33:09] Daniel Nolen: I never worked there but I know of the Pollard for sure.

[33:11] Ben Rimalower: Yeah it's like a create it's like a professional theater it's in Guthrie Oklahoma. It's really crazy. But um anyway, so I my parents now live kind of between like Midwest City and Shawnee. So they live close at Oklahoma City now. So when I go home, like I spend a lot of time in Oklahoma City with friends catching up and stuff.

[33:30] Daniel Nolen: The plaza.

[33:31] Ben Rimalower: Yeah. Oklahoma City is the fast food capital of the world.

[33:36] Daniel Nolen: Oh my god.

[33:37] Ben Rimalower: Like fast food.

[33:38] Daniel Nolen: And Sonic is from there.

[33:40] Ben Rimalower: Like oh my god, explain so much about my life. I mean, my mom is so I mean, I grew up, you know, my parents never drank. My parent, you know, my parents are like the most um uh I don't know what the word is, but like never touched alcohol, never did, you know, they're just so like straight edge.

[33:56] Daniel Nolen: Straight edge, yeah.

[33:57] Ben Rimalower: But my mom, I swear she has a sonic addiction. And so like growing up, um, you know, my mom would go to Sonic, you know, that was like her escape, or like a take instead of taking a smoke break, she would go to Sonic and get like a Route 44 like diet coke or whatever. And to the point where like they would and they still do this, like the Sonic by her house now. They um like they'll send her flowers on her birthday, and yeah, and if they're like friends with like the Sonic workers, I mean that's like her thing.

[34:29] Daniel Nolen: So that's amazing.

[34:30] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, I miss Sonic the most, truly. It's we love Sonic is so great, but they have like you know, one of the only two-story McDonald's in the world is in Oklahoma City just right by our uh our old Alma matter.

[34:43] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, that's right.

[34:45] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, yeah. Did you like going to school there?

[34:48] Daniel Nolen: Loved it.

[34:48] Ben Rimalower: Loved it.

[34:49] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, I don't we had really good experiences there. I think as with like most educational environments, uh they are what you make them. So, you know, you can get a lot out of a little um or a little out of a lot, depending on your attitude and your work ethic.

[35:06] Ben Rimalower: So Caleb and I both had really good experiences there.

[35:09] Daniel Nolen: Oh, that's great.

[35:10] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, so cool. I had no idea that you guys went there.

[35:13] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, wait, Ben, what's your relationship to sonic like what's your fast food uh never been when Daniel and I first like started hanging out and like we're talking about like our childhoods or whatever and like he would tell me about sonic I thought I knew what he meant and then I realized I was thinking of a place called Astro Burger even the same thing not even like sonically close you know no clue yeah I mean that's truly and that's what I miss the most is is like the chains I was I mean I'm I'm truly you know trash at heart I I miss the chain restaurants I miss um, you know the open fields it's you know I was watching what was I watching the other day um uh oh I was watching that I was starting to watch that new drag show on HBO with Shandela and they I think they're going through like Branson Missouri like the Midwest and like for some reason that just like really just comforted me you know yeah with like midwest like the big crosses you know advertising these churches and Bible belt that's home.

[35:13] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, well how did how how did you all meet what's the origin story here I it's interesting we always try to think about this I think we met through a mutual friend I remember the first time I mean I had seen Patty issues but the first time I actually met you was at a at a game night at a friend's house our friend Dan.

[35:13] Daniel Nolen: Yeah I was gonna say we met through Dan.

[35:13] Ben Rimalower: Yeah but I think I think I knew who you were. Uh there was like um uh I think there was like a Molly Pope um show at the duplex, and she brought Daniel up on stage. And um, I don't even know if it was there, but she had him like sit on the steps leading up to the stage at the duplex, and she serenaded him. And it was like a there was a someone took a beautiful photo of Molly really well lit serenading this like twink. It was like a very like diva moment for Molly. And it and the photo was like almost like iconic. And so I think I sort of was like aware of Daniel. I was like, oh, that's the twink from the Molly Pope picture.

[37:24] Daniel Nolen: I mean, I wish I don't think that was me, I don't remember that.

[37:28] Ben Rimalower: I mean, Molly Pope, you know, I hope she's listening because she bringing the gaze together, that's all she ever wants.

[37:34] Daniel Nolen: That's so true.

[37:35] Ben Rimalower: How you guys into Molly Pope?

[37:38] Daniel Nolen: I can't say that I know.

[37:41] Ben Rimalower: You you don't do you know her, Caleb?

[37:43] Caleb Dicke: No, I don't.

[37:45] Ben Rimalower: Okay, you guys, I'm gonna send you some links. You need to get into Molly Pope. She is like, she's like the Shirley Bassey of Joe's pub.

[37:54] Daniel Nolen: She's like, oh, okay.

[37:56] Ben Rimalower: Well, I gotta get that reference.

[38:05] Daniel Nolen: I mean, like not every day.

[38:09] Ben Rimalower: On air.

[38:09] Daniel Nolen: Only only sometimes.

[38:12] Ben Rimalower: But she's talented.

[38:13] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, she's so talented.

[38:14] Ben Rimalower: An old school, like big belter voice.

[38:17] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[38:17] Ben Rimalower: I miss like going out in New York. Like you said the duplex, and I like yeah, like my heart sank. Okay, just not to get too dark, but everybody was posting today how sad they are about Shetler Studios closing.

[38:32] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[38:32] Ben Rimalower: And like, I'm like, if people are this fucking sad about that studio, like the things are gonna close that are like way more special to us than uh rehearsal studio, you know.

[38:45] Daniel Nolen: Like um like Empire Coffee.

[38:49] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, I mean theaters, cabarets, you know, I mean shows that don't come back, like marriages that end out. I mean, what are some shows that you guys wouldn't mind if they come back?

[39:05] Ben Rimalower: It'd be easier to do the opposite.

[39:07] Daniel Nolen: Oh my god.

[39:08] Ben Rimalower: What are some ones that you really wouldn't mind if they didn't come back?

[39:10] Daniel Nolen: I mean well, if we were trying to make space, we need space for new kids, you know.

[39:17] Ben Rimalower: Like we need space for A Strange Loop.

[39:19] Daniel Nolen: We do, yes.

[39:20] Ben Rimalower: They need to make the transfer, Pulitzer prize winning.

[39:23] Daniel Nolen: Yes.

[39:23] Ben Rimalower: Um Chicago should take a gener—uh yeah, a bow.

[39:28] Daniel Nolen: Oh yes, honey.

[39:29] Ben Rimalower: Those housewives, they have enough gigs.

[39:31] Daniel Nolen: Yes.

[39:32] Ben Rimalower: I'm also talking people talking about um Phantom.

[39:39] Daniel Nolen: It's Fant.

[39:40] Ben Rimalower: I thought Phantom was making a lot of money though.

[39:42] Daniel Nolen: But everyone's saying that it's Asian um tourists.

[39:45] Ben Rimalower: So like they're like number 70% of their audience are Asian tourists.

[39:49] Daniel Nolen: Oh wow.

[39:50] Ben Rimalower: So I just don't know.

[39:52] Daniel Nolen: I mean, but probably without Lion King also.

[39:56] Ben Rimalower: No, Lion King is no children, like families.

[39:59] Daniel Nolen: But you know, I think it's I think it's foreign tourists as opposed to like tourism in general.

[40:04] Ben Rimalower: Like Phantom is a big um foreign tourism kind of um, yeah.

[40:11] Daniel Nolen: I don't know.

[40:11] Ben Rimalower: I mean, obviously, I want things I want there to be room for Beetlejuice to come back, you know.

[40:19] Daniel Nolen: Cut a little cut down, you know, a little bit cheaper, but all the time.

[40:24] Ben Rimalower: But not at all stages, same goodness.

[40:28] Daniel Nolen: Not a new world stages, no.

[40:30] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, no, yeah, sorry. Everything's like everything's wrong.

[40:34] Daniel Nolen: The old name.

[40:38] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, but just in it, you know, a good size theater.

[40:41] Caleb Dicke: What is the place everyone misses the most that you're gonna go to like immediately when this ends?

[40:49] Ben Rimalower: I miss this is so annoying, but I miss like I miss like blockheads area, like 50 that 50th, like 50th Street.

[41:02] Daniel Nolen: Hell's Kitchen, yeah.

[41:03] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, like I uh I miss it.

[41:06] Daniel Nolen: So well that actually will come back before anything.

[41:09] Ben Rimalower: I mean, yeah, you know, because they can they can have what do you call it? Like a takeout window at Blockheads.

[41:15] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, people can sit, you know.

[41:17] Ben Rimalower: They're not technically at a restaurant if they're at the public tables in uh New World Plaza, you know.

[41:22] Daniel Nolen: Right.

[41:23] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[41:23] Daniel Nolen: I mean, there's the tr there's probably people drinking margaritas there now, you know.

[41:32] Ben Rimalower: Our roving reporter, yes.

[41:35] Caleb Dicke: Oh my god. What about you, Caleb? What do you miss?

[41:37] Caleb Dicke: Um most so by the um natural history museum across the street, they have that antique flea market in the baseball courts.

[41:47] Ben Rimalower: Do you know what I'm talking about?

[41:49] Caleb Dicke: Oh yeah.

[41:50] Caleb Dicke: I can't wait to just like buy some Tchotchkis to fill my apartment and just like walk and look at some plants.

[41:56] Caleb Dicke: And my favorite corner is there to sit and read in the park.

[41:59] Ben Rimalower: I love that.

[42:00] Caleb Dicke: In the by natural history museum.

[42:02] Caleb Dicke: It's right there in the corner.

[42:04] Caleb Dicke: So can't wait to go upper west side.

[42:06] Ben Rimalower: That sounds lovely.

[42:07] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, right.

[42:09] Caleb Dicke: Ben, what about you? What do you miss the most?

[42:12] Ben Rimalower: Um, I mean, I don't know if I really do like. Like, I just I just like miss being with like my friends and like, you know, like just like hugging people.

[42:24] Ben Rimalower: I miss fucking having sex, you know.

[42:26] Ben Rimalower: Like, I mean, I don't, I think I feel like it'll have to a lot more time will go by before I like actually really miss like the venues and stuff.

[42:36] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, you know, sure.

[42:38] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[42:39] Ben Rimalower: I mean I hope it doesn't.

[42:41] Daniel Nolen: I mean, right.

[42:45] Daniel Nolen: Well, I mean, I you know, the duplex and I all my favorite bars are kind of like the duplex, Julius, um, uh Maurice Crisis, you know, all those West Village like piano centric bars are like my fave, but like um, even if all this is over, you know, I'm still gonna probably have like residual, you know, triggers going into it.

[43:10] Ben Rimalower: Exactly.

[43:10] Daniel Nolen: Yes.

[43:12] Daniel Nolen: Um, but my my truly my my favorite thing about living in New York, especially this time of year, is just like um the street scene and like walking and like you know, I used to work in uh Flat Iron and I would walk all the way from Flat Iron over the Williamsburg Bridge to like the subway in Williamsburg.

[43:33] Daniel Nolen: And that was just like just so comforting and and grounding.

[43:38] Daniel Nolen: I mean, I just needed that.

[43:39] Daniel Nolen: It was like meditative, you know, and and now it's I I obviously can't do that.

[43:43] Daniel Nolen: And like even trying to walk in my neighborhood isn't the same thing because you know you don't pass these landmarks, you don't, yeah, you don't um get to uh go to the farmer's market on the way in Union Square.

[43:55] Daniel Nolen: You don't get to stop in your favorite bookstore, grab a cup of coffee or ice cream or whatever on the way.

[44:00] Daniel Nolen: It's and that's something I think I that makes me kind of miss New York, you know.

[44:06] Daniel Nolen: And when we come out of this, I'm like, is it gonna be the same or is it gonna be different or better maybe in the long run? Who knows?

[44:13] Ben Rimalower: I mean, um, but this time of year I really do kind of uh I don't know.

[44:20] Ben Rimalower: I am to get out, you know.

[44:22] Ben Rimalower: It's like nicer outside, so I'm I'm pining for that.

[44:24] Caleb Dicke: Yeah, spring in New York is the best.

[44:26] Caleb Dicke: Like the first day of like, uh, you walk out, you're like, I'm getting an iced coffee today, and then you like you like text your friends to like meet somewhere spontaneously because it's so gorgeous out.

[44:37] Ben Rimalower: Ugh.

[44:38] Caleb Dicke: That's what I miss it.

[44:40] Ben Rimalower: Well, well, it'll be back at some point.

[44:42] Daniel Nolen: Yes.

[44:43] Ben Rimalower: Yes.

[44:44] Ben Rimalower: And uh, you know, this is gonna make us better.

[44:47] Ben Rimalower: We're gonna be fine.

[44:48] Caleb Dicke: I hope so.

[44:49] Caleb Dicke: Well, um, you know, if you're if you're struggling missing New York, if you have woes, Caleb is our resident and vice columnist, so he's gonna take us through take us through his thoughts on a on a subject.

[45:00] Caleb Dicke: Uh it's time for a blonde girl moment.

[45:02] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[45:03] Caleb Dicke: Maybe I'd better go ahead, maybe I better go home.

[45:19] Daniel Nolen: It was perfect timing for this um this conversation.

[45:24] Caleb Dicke: Um, so summer is nearly upon us, gentlemen.

[45:27] Caleb Dicke: Um, and what I love more than anything is a treat.

[45:30] Caleb Dicke: So, my this is a really quick and easy one.

[45:33] Caleb Dicke: Um, would you rather have the Nestle drumstick or the uh flavor ice popsicle?

[45:41] Daniel Nolen: Oh we can go one at a time.

[45:44] Daniel Nolen: Daniel, which one would you prefer?

[45:45] Daniel Nolen: Flavor ice, is it like in the little plastic where you like push it up?

[45:48] Daniel Nolen: It is um it is uh liquid sugar.

[45:51] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, and that's like 100% that one.

[45:53] Daniel Nolen: I mean, that's like so my childhood.

[45:55] Daniel Nolen: I would just get like a big like strip of those babies and just like go lay out on the back porch and just you know, snip snip.

[46:01] Ben Rimalower: Uh-huh.

[46:01] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, oh yeah.

[46:04] Daniel Nolen: So good.

[46:04] Daniel Nolen: 100% in bulk stick.

[46:07] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, it's also called otter pops.

[46:10] Ben Rimalower: Is that yes, otter pops, pop ice?

[46:13] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, yeah.

[46:14] Ben Rimalower: Guys, no, not time for a Fire Island yet.

[46:17] Daniel Nolen: You can get oh like.

[46:23] Daniel Nolen: Um, but yeah, you can get like a box of those, like a hundred for like five dollars.

[46:28] Ben Rimalower: They give you five dollars if you take those boxes.

[46:31] Daniel Nolen: And also, did you notice they're not stored in the freezer sometimes?

[46:35] Daniel Nolen: They have them on the shelf.

[46:37] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, you have to liquid them.

[46:40] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, it's so bizarre.

[46:41] Daniel Nolen: That always freaked me out.

[46:42] Ben Rimalower: Oh, I like the the not frozen ones because they were kind of like um they were like little loose penises.

[46:49] Daniel Nolen: I don't know, maybe that's why I love them.

[46:51] Ben Rimalower: Like glow sticks, yes, glow sticks.

[46:53] Daniel Nolen: Yes, that was the hardest part though.

[46:55] Daniel Nolen: As a kid, you had to wait for them to freeze before dive in.

[46:58] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[46:59] Daniel Nolen: We um uh when at Beetlejuice, we had like our you know, our little fridges in the dressing room, and uh Pediolite makes their version of those pigs frozen frozen pops.

[47:10] Ben Rimalower: So we would have those in the in the freezer for you know when we were having a tough matinee.

[47:14] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, um uh but yeah, definitely the the flavor ice pops.

[47:20] Daniel Nolen: I would say like I'm I'm those are like I like them, but as far as popsicles go, I'm gonna I want like a fruit bar, like I want like a watermelon or lime.

[47:30] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[47:31] Daniel Nolen: But but I hate drumsticks.

[47:32] Ben Rimalower: I mean I love a pressure ice cream drone, but a shitty soggy drumstick with like you know, um ice milk instead of ice cream and like that terrible dehydrated nuts.

[47:44] Daniel Nolen: I don't want that.

[47:45] Ben Rimalower: Oh see, I love the chocolate chunk at the bottom.

[47:48] Daniel Nolen: That's what I was about to say.

[47:49] Ben Rimalower: Yes, it's good.

[47:50] Ben Rimalower: That's final chocolate.

[47:52] Daniel Nolen: That's the best part.

[47:52] Ben Rimalower: It's mixed.

[47:54] Ben Rimalower: Um but yeah, I love I love the the little pop ice, and then I love the uh the red, white, and blue, like patriotic popsicle that you get.

[48:03] Daniel Nolen: Yes, like the rockets, the rock the rocket poppers, yeah.

[48:06] Ben Rimalower: I like a fruit bar, I like a fudge pop.

[48:09] Daniel Nolen: Love it.

[48:10] Ben Rimalower: Like a fudge.

[48:10] Daniel Nolen: A dove bar, a dove, yes, bar, yes.

[48:14] Ben Rimalower: My mom liked those.

[48:18] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, bar in the shower as well, you know.

[48:21] Ben Rimalower: You know, um so my blonde girl moment, it goes to definitely flavor ice.

[48:27] Daniel Nolen: Um, we used to cut them two flavors, so then you would give one to your sibling and you could like have a pink and a blue and you could mix them.

[48:36] Caleb Dicke: So that's so that's so generous in sharing and caring of you.

[48:39] Daniel Nolen: You get both in the you get best of both worlds.

[48:41] Caleb Dicke: I love so you can get your flavor ice ready.

[48:45] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, uh well, it's time uh for my segment.

[48:51] Ben Rimalower: Now, usually I um I I collect show merchandise, I collect t-shirts, and usually I um uh put them against each other, declare a winner my favorite.

[49:03] Ben Rimalower: But um, but um we're gonna have a special edition of Mask Madness this week.

[49:10] Daniel Nolen: Hit that theme song, Alan.

[49:23] Ben Rimalower: Okay, now we we did mask madness nice.

[49:28] Ben Rimalower: Um we did mask madness um last week, and uh there was a winner, and I was just decided to keep it going because masks masks are fashion now.

[49:38] Daniel Nolen: All right, we're just gonna have to get used to it.

[49:40] Ben Rimalower: They're the way of the future, and I'm kind of here for it, you know.

[49:43] Ben Rimalower: It's like fun little thing like to like put the button on my outfit.

[49:43] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[49:43] Ben Rimalower: The button.

[49:49] Ben Rimalower: Button.

[49:52] Ben Rimalower: Um, so we have this mask right here, which is a play on a mask that I had last week, which is a splatter.

[49:52] Daniel Nolen: Okay.

[49:52] Ben Rimalower: Right here.

[50:03] Ben Rimalower: Um, and uh, but this is um a more warm color palette.

[50:07] Ben Rimalower: We have a nice orange, pink, purple splatter here.

[50:11] Ben Rimalower: So it's gonna be really nice for like um, you know, for a summer really summery day, or maybe I'm wearing like a floral top, you know, something something light, something like airy, summery.

[50:24] Daniel Nolen: It looks like sherbet.

[50:25] Ben Rimalower: Yes, honey.

[50:27] Ben Rimalower: Now, this is more sherbet.

[50:29] Daniel Nolen: Go on.

[50:30] Ben Rimalower: This is more evening mask.

[50:33] Daniel Nolen: Oh, now that is that's hot.

[50:36] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, this is for evening.

[50:38] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, this is like um bedroom.

[50:41] Daniel Nolen: Oh, yes, this is my bedroom mask.

[50:42] Ben Rimalower: It's like when you're getting bottle service, exactly.

[50:45] Ben Rimalower: It's a really nice sheer black fabric with the silver, silver pattern here.

[50:51] Daniel Nolen: Right.

[50:52] Ben Rimalower: It's just this is really, really nice.

[50:53] Ben Rimalower: This is not something that I would usually go for.

[50:56] Ben Rimalower: I'm usually more of kind of a bright colors, bold patterns kind of guy.

[51:00] Ben Rimalower: Um shout out to Drew Drokey.

[51:05] Ben Rimalower: And uh but this this black mask, I gotta say, is the clear winner of merch madness for me.

[51:13] Ben Rimalower: I love how sleek it is.

[51:15] Ben Rimalower: Like this is a head turner.

[51:16] Ben Rimalower: This is gonna this is gonna make people say, who is that?

[51:20] Ben Rimalower: And um they're gonna try to get within six feet, but I'm gonna say honey.

[51:23] Daniel Nolen: No, no, no.

[51:24] Ben Rimalower: Back up behind the the velvet rope.

[51:27] Ben Rimalower: Back up, sweetie.

[51:29] Ben Rimalower: So this is this is the winner of um of merch madness this week.

[51:33] Ben Rimalower: And uh I can let you all know if you're interested in these fabulous masks.

[51:37] Daniel Nolen: I am where to order them.

[51:40] Ben Rimalower: Please.

[51:41] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, yeah, I'll send you that link.

[51:43] Ben Rimalower: Thank you.

[51:44] Daniel Nolen: I'm I'm maskless.

[51:45] Ben Rimalower: I feel like, yeah.

[51:49] Daniel Nolen: What?

[51:50] Ben Rimalower: We need to get you a mask.

[51:51] Daniel Nolen: Please, yeah.

[51:52] Ben Rimalower: And I stopped taking prep, so like I'm really unprotected now.

[51:56] Daniel Nolen: Oh my god.

[51:57] Ben Rimalower: That's so depressing.

[51:59] Daniel Nolen: I had to because I was like, I couldn't go to like my three-month checkup, you know, because of this.

[52:05] Ben Rimalower: So I was like, I think they're just extending it now.

[52:09] Daniel Nolen: No, I mean, my Did you call your doctor?

[52:12] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, they were like, you have to go get like the tests or whatever to me to prescribe the next round.

[52:20] Daniel Nolen: They are extending the thing where you don't have to go to the pharmacy every month now.

[52:23] Daniel Nolen: It's like they'll give you like a three-month supply.

[52:25] Ben Rimalower: But um, but I'm also like, I don't really need it right now.

[52:28] Ben Rimalower: I mean, who am I kidding?

[52:29] Ben Rimalower: I'm like, you know.

[52:31] Daniel Nolen: I always have hope.

[52:32] Ben Rimalower: I just always have hope.

[52:34] Ben Rimalower: Every day, like it could be today.

[52:38] Daniel Nolen: Um, as have you seen that movie Forget Paris with Billy Crystal and Deborah Winger?

[52:43] Ben Rimalower: There's this line that I always think of.

[52:44] Ben Rimalower: It's like um uh Billy Crystal's talking about masturbation, and he's like in high school I kept a picture of my right hand in my wallet, and that's totally right now.

[52:57] Daniel Nolen: I love that.

[52:59] Ben Rimalower: I love that.

[53:00] Daniel Nolen: That's a great joke.

[53:02] Ben Rimalower: Thank you.

[53:02] Daniel Nolen: Thank you, and thank Billy Crystal and whoever wrote it.

[53:04] Ben Rimalower: Thank you, Billy Crystal.

[53:05] Ben Rimalower: No fat on that joke.

[53:06] Daniel Nolen: No, no.

[53:07] Ben Rimalower: Um we play a game.

[53:12] Daniel Nolen: We should.

[53:13] Ben Rimalower: We should play a game.

[53:14] Daniel Nolen: Okay.

[53:15] Ben Rimalower: So these are easy questions.

[53:17] Ben Rimalower: No skill at all, don't worry.

[53:19] Ben Rimalower: And just the first thing that comes to mind, okay?

[53:22] Daniel Nolen: Rapid fire.

[53:23] Ben Rimalower: We kind of actually hit all of these, so like we'll just have to expand upon them, maybe.

[53:27] Daniel Nolen: Okay.

[53:28] Ben Rimalower: But um, so quarantine is over and brunch is happening.

[53:32] Ben Rimalower: What restaurant are you gonna go to? Where's your reservation at?

[53:37] Daniel Nolen: I mean, I um my first instinct is pies and thighs in Williamsburg.

[53:42] Ben Rimalower: First to mine.

[53:43] Daniel Nolen: Okay.

[53:44] Daniel Nolen: Wonderful, wonderful fried chicken spot.

[53:48] Ben Rimalower: Lava fried chicken.

[53:50] Ben Rimalower: I like the ribbon.

[53:52] Daniel Nolen: Um, there's now there's one on 44th Street, but there's I like the one on 72nd, and it's um it's I think it's the same um company that owns Blue Ribbon and Blue Ribbon Bakery and Blue Ribbon sushi and everything.

[54:04] Daniel Nolen: Um, they have really delicious brunch. I'm just like a maple syrup holic.

[54:08] Ben Rimalower: Yes. Real only real maple syrup.

[54:10] Daniel Nolen: I don't I don't do lots of things.

[54:11] Ben Rimalower: You have a mod maple syrup.

[54:13] Daniel Nolen: That's right, baby. Um, by the way, Pies and Thighs is um gonna be my Instagram handle now.

[54:22] Ben Rimalower: For quarantine.

[54:25] Daniel Nolen: Spot on. Okay. Hosting a cocktail party, and would you rather host with Ethel Merman, Mary Martin, or Carol Channing?

[54:34] Ben Rimalower: Oh. Um, Carol Channing.

[54:37] Daniel Nolen: Carol, yeah. She'd be a blast. Elliott, who would you host?

[54:41] Elliott Mattox: I feel like I would want to co-host with Mary Martin.

[54:44] Daniel Nolen: Oh.

[54:45] Elliott Mattox: I feel like we would have a good working relationship. I feel like the other two would be kind of like I would be doing the work and they would be like entertaining and then you know what I mean.

[54:54] Ben Rimalower: Very true.

[54:55] Daniel Nolen: Very true.

[54:55] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, Ethel, I do not want to host. Um, destination you were determined to visit after this quarantine.

[55:05] Ben Rimalower: Barcelona.

[55:07] Daniel Nolen: Oh.

[55:08] Elliott Mattox: That's a nice um.

[55:13] Ben Rimalower: Oh.

[55:15] Daniel Nolen: That's so hard. I mean.

[55:25] Elliott Mattox: During we're going to the beach.

[55:27] Ben Rimalower: No, don't say during, because whenever we go to the beach, I'm in my mind, I'm gonna be like, okay, it's over. I don't have to worry anymore. Like if I'm thinking of like this is during the whole time, I'm gonna be like anxious, you know.

[55:36] Daniel Nolen: Sure.

[55:37] Elliott Mattox: Um, but yeah, I mean, when it's all over and everything's said and done, like, you know, Europe as well, sure.

[55:45] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[55:45] Daniel Nolen: Flights are gonna be so cheap. It'll be great. Um, so there's a lot of challenges going on on Instagram and Facebook. What has been your favorite challenge? Because I've hated a lot of them, but what is your favorite one you've seen so far?

[56:00] Ben Rimalower: Challenge.

[56:02] Daniel Nolen: Like uh the example that I hate is the push-up challenge.

[56:06] Ben Rimalower: Oh, I really hate that. Watching some of those videos though. Those were good.

[56:11] Daniel Nolen: That was good content.

[56:13] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't want to make one. What was the one that Jake Gyllenhaal was doing?

[56:19] Daniel Nolen: Oh, I missed that.

[56:20] Ben Rimalower: Where he like your shirt off while you're in a handstand.

[56:23] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[56:23] Ben Rimalower: I mean, that's the one.

[56:24] Daniel Nolen: Oh, I did see more.

[56:25] Ben Rimalower: Yeah. Here for that. Um, we won't expand upon it, but if you haven't searched hashtag shampoo challenge, that one I highly suggest on Twitter.

[56:34] Daniel Nolen: I've heard about that, but it's not one.

[56:37] Ben Rimalower: It's not it's not suitable for work.

[56:39] Daniel Nolen: N M W. I'm looking for that.

[56:41] Ben Rimalower: In SFW. Get a burner account. You know.

[56:47] Daniel Nolen: Um liking. What's your favorite theater in Midtown? What's your favorite Broadway theater?

[56:55] Ben Rimalower: Uh, the Winter Garden.

[56:57] Daniel Nolen: Yes.

[56:59] Ben Rimalower: She's wide. She's very wide.

[57:01] Daniel Nolen: She's a widescreen.

[57:03] Ben Rimalower: Yes.

[57:05] Daniel Nolen: I like the Schubert.

[57:07] Ben Rimalower: Classic.

[57:08] Daniel Nolen: Such a classic.

[57:08] Ben Rimalower: Yes. Love the Shubert as well. And I love the alley.

[57:11] Daniel Nolen: Yes.

[57:13] Ben Rimalower: Yes. If you love Shubert Theater, you'll love Schubert Allen. Um, Junior's cheesecake, please.

[57:22] Daniel Nolen: I have to tell you, that's another thing I've been craving is Junior's cheesecake. And I found like time out, or someone did an email blast about there's a recipe online that exists about making your own Junior's cheesecake.

[57:33] Ben Rimalower: So I'm definitely considering that.

[57:35] Daniel Nolen: Nice. You should do it.

[57:36] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, but you need like a considering considering it's just like you have to like, when am I ever gonna use like, you know, essence of orange or whatever the fuck you need for the crust?

[57:46] Daniel Nolen: I'm like, it's like expensive ingredients that I'll use once and then well, but what you can do is you can go online and search substitutes.

[57:54] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, you know, because what you could probably just use like you could probably just zest an orange instead of using like essence.

[57:59] Daniel Nolen: Very true. Very true.

[58:00] Ben Rimalower: And by the end, you won't have a Junior's cheesecake, but you'll have a Daniel cheesecake.

[58:04] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, it could be something.

[58:08] Ben Rimalower: Um, best thing about New York City in the spring. We already kind of hit about this, but expand.

[58:14] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, I mean, I think for me, just walking, you know, just walking around. I it's so you know, pleasant and meditative for me.

[58:21] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[58:22] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, same.

[58:24] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, I like running into people. That's my favorite part. Sometimes you're like, I'm on the phone. I'm like, I don't know.

[58:31] Daniel Nolen: Yeah.

[58:35] Ben Rimalower: Um, and the last question is I can't believe this is my job moment. When you've ever had that, you're working, you're like, I can't believe this is my job. Like good or bad, doesn't matter. Let me know. Which one do you which one are you feeling?

[58:48] Daniel Nolen: Well, I did have a moment um last year uh when I was on tour with as uh Elliott mentioned, uh Countess Luann. And um Giovanni. I don't know what we were in some city somewhere, and we were like, you know, doing like sound check and everything, and I was like, I work in rap.

[59:11] Ben Rimalower: Realization that like my main source of employment in like 2018 and 2019 was the field of rap music.

[59:21] Daniel Nolen: And that was pretty mind blowing.

[59:23] Ben Rimalower: That's a good one.

[59:25] Daniel Nolen: Oh my god. And okay, so I have to I have to just go off on a little tangent here. Like we're we're big New York fans in this house.

[59:34] Ben Rimalower: And so it's been a pleasure seeing you pop up on our screen uh here and there on Thursdays.

[59:40] Daniel Nolen: Um, but we we're loving Feel and Giovanni. And have you seen the the mashup of the prayer from Lady Gaga's um relief concert with Feel and Giovanni at the very end?

[59:52] Ben Rimalower: No, that's too funny.

[59:54] Daniel Nolen: It is so good. I think she posted it on her Instagram, but it is the funniest thing.

[59:59] Ben Rimalower: We will watch it over and over again.

[1:00:01] Daniel Nolen: Oh my god. It is just so so good. I wrote, I co-wrote Feel and Giovanni.

[1:00:06] Ben Rimalower: And it feels so good.

[1:00:08] Daniel Nolen: That was my uh stamined necklace reckless flair. That was my my real inspiration.

[1:00:12] Ben Rimalower: It's really great. Really phenomenal work there.

[1:00:18] Daniel Nolen: Thank you.

[1:00:19] Ben Rimalower: It's my one my one songwriting credit.

[1:00:21] Daniel Nolen: It's strong.

[1:00:24] Ben Rimalower: Really strong.

[1:00:26] Daniel Nolen: Yeah. Daniel, what's your I can't believe it's my job moment.

[1:00:30] Daniel Nolen: Okay, I have a question actually. So if I I have I only have two uh two USB outlets in my computer, and they're both being used right now.

[1:00:41] Ben Rimalower: But I'm almost like my computer is going down battery-wise, so I have to plug it in.

[1:00:46] Daniel Nolen: If I unplug this mic, I'm gonna see if you guys can still hear me, okay?

[1:00:49] Ben Rimalower: Okay, go for it.

[1:00:53] Daniel Nolen: You're muted, so try not to mute.

[1:00:56] Ben Rimalower: Okay, can you hear me?

[1:00:57] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, okay. It's probably bad quality, but I have to like make the it's not so bad.

[1:01:02] Ben Rimalower: You gotta charge.

[1:01:03] Daniel Nolen: I've been no mic this whole time because something's fucked up with my mic.

[1:01:07] Ben Rimalower: Oh, great.

[1:01:07] Daniel Nolen: Okay, cool. We're all figuring out this technology.

[1:01:11] Ben Rimalower: It's freaky though, doing these pods. I mean, like Daniel and I did a whole episode the other day, and then I listened to it, and I was like, I sound like shit.

[1:01:19] Daniel Nolen: I didn't, I didn't, but there was nobody there telling us like Ben, you're setting something's fucked up. Like we just were doing it, you know.

[1:01:26] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, our first quarantine one was I was I was terrible. So I got on I got a new mic.

[1:01:31] Daniel Nolen: So yeah, I mean, Apple. I mean, every time I get on FaceTime, it's like something else happens and something screws up, and I'm like, I don't know how to get out of this.

[1:01:40] Ben Rimalower: Like, shouldn't you guys make this easier for me?

[1:01:43] Daniel Nolen: Anyway, um, okay.

[1:01:45] Ben Rimalower: So, what was the question?

[1:01:46] Daniel Nolen: I can't believe this is my job moment.

[1:01:49] Ben Rimalower: Oh, yes.

[1:01:50] Daniel Nolen: Um, I mean, I had this job at the end of high school, summer after high school, and um kind of sporadically through college, I worked at um a bank in Guthrie as a bank teller, mostly during summers and Christmas break and stuff.

[1:02:08] Ben Rimalower: But um, and I really loved that job, and I'm still friends with most of the people I worked with there, and it was just like a really wonderful um job to have.

[1:02:16] Daniel Nolen: But one time uh this guy came in and he brought this these two big um buckets of change, and back then they didn't have like the automatic change counter machine, so like that like the tellers, like we had to count the change, roll it, deposit it, or give them cash, whatever.

[1:02:35] Ben Rimalower: And so he gave us these two big buckets of loose coins, and they were like covered in something, and we were just like it was like semen adjacent.

[1:02:46] Daniel Nolen: I mean, it was like it was like I mean, I don't want to get too graphic, but it was like definitely they were not going through our machine because it was like clogging up, it was it was clogging up the works basically, and like our machine, like it was not rolling them properly, so we were like, we can't do this.

[1:03:05] Ben Rimalower: Like we have to tell him to come get it.

[1:03:07] Daniel Nolen: So we called him and we were like, There's something on all these coins, like it's it's messing with our machines.

[1:03:13] Ben Rimalower: Like we can't use these.

[1:03:16] Daniel Nolen: And so he comes to pick him up, and we were like, what was that? Like, what was the problem?

[1:03:19] Ben Rimalower: And he was like, Oh, that was chicken grease.

[1:03:21] Daniel Nolen: Just like he said it very matter of factly, and we were like, why?

[1:03:26] Ben Rimalower: And he was like, said something about like that's where he kept them, was like in some sort of like fryer or something.

[1:03:33] Daniel Nolen: He like that that was like no longer working, but that's where now he like threw his loose change at the end of the day.

[1:03:39] Ben Rimalower: It was a really like weird story.

[1:03:41] Daniel Nolen: In the schmaltz.

[1:03:47] Ben Rimalower: Yeah.

[1:03:47] Daniel Nolen: So I mean, I was just like, we were all with like, you know, plastic gloves to like sort through this change.

[1:03:54] Ben Rimalower: Anyway, so he like somehow washed it all off and and brought them back and we did it.

[1:03:59] Daniel Nolen: But I was like, this is torture. I mean, it was it was humiliating.

[1:04:04] Ben Rimalower: Wow.

[1:04:05] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, that's uh get the course.

[1:04:08] Ben Rimalower: So wild.

[1:04:09] Daniel Nolen: But you gotta get your money, you know what I mean?

[1:04:11] Ben Rimalower: You have to, yeah.

[1:04:12] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, you must.

[1:04:13] Ben Rimalower: Um, that brings us to the end of our happy hour. This was so fun, guys.

[1:04:16] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, thanks for having us.

[1:04:20] Elliott Mattox: Of course. Tell uh tell all our viewers, watchers, listeners where they can listen and watch you during quarantine. You have a lot of stuff you're doing.

[1:04:29] Ben Rimalower: Yes, Ben.

[1:04:31] Daniel Nolen: Oh yes, I was hoping you would say I should do it.

[1:04:36] Ben Rimalower: Um, well, we have our our weekly podcast on Broadway Podcast Network produced by Broadway World called Ben Rimalower's Broken Records.

[1:04:44] Daniel Nolen: And um, we have a new episode coming out this uh, it's every Sunday at midnight, Monday morning. Our new one is out.

[1:04:49] Ben Rimalower: We're having Richard J. Alexander with us to um quarantine stream, hey Mr. Producer, the Karen McIntosh tribute concert from the 90s.

[1:04:59] Daniel Nolen: Of course, Richard was the executive producer of all those big shows like Miss Saigon.

[1:05:04] Ben Rimalower: So we're gonna get some tea. And um, we also have our uh special pandemic live stream called Tuesday, Thursday, April, August, which is every Tuesday Thursday morning uh live at 10:30 a.m. Eastern, but then you know it lives forever on uh the BPN YouTube page and the Broadway World Facebook page.

[1:05:27] Daniel Nolen: And um we'll be there tomorrow morning talking about um we have our uh our oh our all beef patty tomorrow is I'm complaining about all the times Patty LuPone sang Being Alive not at Carnegie Hall.

[1:05:40] Ben Rimalower: Um our who do you think you are tomorrow morning is Shirley Bassey singing Starlight Express.

[1:05:48] Daniel Nolen: Oh yeah we've got a very special clip. So I think people should definitely tune in for that.

[1:05:54] Ben Rimalower: That's right. Hopefully you don't we don't get banned this must see uh YouTube TV.

[1:06:02] Daniel Nolen: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Apporting on television.

[1:06:05] Ben Rimalower: Um, where can people find you on social media if they'd like to follow you?

[1:06:09] Daniel Nolen: I'm Ben Rimalower across all uh platforms.

[1:06:14] Ben Rimalower: And uh Daniel is Daniel Nolen.

[1:06:16] Daniel Nolen: Daniel Nolen, yeah.

[1:06:17] Ben Rimalower: Nolan with an E, not Nolan with an A.

[1:06:19] Daniel Nolen: Good to know.

[1:06:20] Ben Rimalower: Because Nolan with an E goes N, not Ann.

[1:06:23] Daniel Nolen: That's right.

[1:06:24] Ben Rimalower: Yeah. Um you can find uh our podcast, Equity One, at Equity One Podcast on Instagram and Facebook, and on Twitter at equity One underscore.

[1:06:36] Daniel Nolen: Send us an email at equity one podcast at gmail.com with some reviews and thoughts.

[1:06:41] Ben Rimalower: And also please rate and review.

[1:06:43] Daniel Nolen: It helps others find our podcast.

[1:06:45] Ben Rimalower: Yeah, give us five stars on iTunes. You ain't got nothing else to do.

[1:06:50] Daniel Nolen: Um you can catch our um show here on the Broadway Podcast Network YouTube channel if you know some days.

[1:06:59] Ben Rimalower: Depends up on our Instagram.

[1:07:03] Daniel Nolen: The schedule's kind of shifting a little bit, so bear with us while we do that.

[1:07:06] Ben Rimalower: But we've got some great guests coming up for you this year.

[1:07:10] Daniel Nolen: Uh thanks again to the Broadway Podcast Network and to Podcast Dad Alan for helping us out.

[1:07:15] Ben Rimalower: And until next time, everyone.

[1:07:19] All: Cheers.

[1:07:20] Ben Rimalower: Cheers.

[1:07:21] Daniel Nolen: Cheers.

[1:07:23] Ben Rimalower: Um oh