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[0:00] Caleb Dicke: Hi friends!

[0:01] Caleb Dicke: Caleb and I are going to be celebrating our three-year anniversary of Equity One.

[0:07] Caleb Dicke: And we want you to join us.

[0:09] Caleb Dicke: We are going to be doing a live show on August 15th at 4 p.m. Eastern, where we'll be joined by some of our favorite guests from the past.

[0:18] Caleb Dicke: We'll have a signature Equity One cocktail, the games and segments that you know and love, plus some other exciting things that you'll have to wait and see.

[0:28] Caleb Dicke: So stay tuned on our social media at Equity One Podcast on Instagram and Facebook to get all the latest information leading up to the live show.

[0:37] Caleb Dicke: We hope you'll join us on August 15th at 4 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the Broadway Podcast Network Town Hall.

[0:44] Caleb Dicke: See you then.

[0:46] Caleb Dicke: Cheers.

[0:53] Elliott Mattox: We'll take a glass together.

[0:57] Elliott Mattox: This is Equity One, Broadway's Happy Hour.

[0:57] Elliott Mattox: Pour yourself a drink and join us as we chat about life, theater, and everything in between.

[1:06] Elliott Mattox: I'm Elliott Mattox.

[1:07] Caleb Dicke: And I'm Caleb Dicke.

[1:09] Elliott Mattox: Join us for your Equity One.

[1:19] Elliott Mattox: Hello!

[1:20] Guests: Hi!

[1:21] Guests: Cheers!

[1:22] Guests: Clean!

[1:24] Elliott Mattox: Welcome to Broadway Podcast Network Happy Hour.

[1:27] Elliott Mattox: I am Elliott.

[1:29] Caleb Dicke: I'm Caleb.

[1:30] Elliott Mattox: And we're the hosts of Equity One, Broadway's Happy Hour.

[1:34] Elliott Mattox: Uh, we sit here on Broadway Podcast Network Happy Hour.

[1:37] Elliott Mattox: Oh, oh, oh we have the currents are opening.

[1:40] Elliott Mattox: It's a slow current.

[1:42] Elliott Mattox: On Broadway Podcast Network Happy Hour, we sit down and chat with some of your favorite Broadway Podcast Network hosts.

[1:49] Elliott Mattox: And today we are so excited to have not only two of our favorite hosts, but a very special guest.

[1:56] Elliott Mattox: We have from Mama's Talkin' Loud, Cara Cooper, Jessica Rush, and our very special guest, Robyn Hurder.

[2:08] Robyn Hurder: Legos.

[2:09] Unknown speaker: Hi David.

[2:10] Robyn Hurder: Oh my god.

[2:12] Robyn Hurder: How's it going?

[2:13] Guests: Cheers, everyone.

[2:14] Guests: Cheers.

[2:17] Robyn Hurder: And a very happy early Mother's Day to all of you.

[2:21] Guests: Thank you.

[2:23] Elliott Mattox: Oh, it's so it's we, you know, we're so happy to have you for our Mother's Day edition.

[2:27] Elliott Mattox: Well thought out, planned.

[2:29] Elliott Mattox: Very we got the exclusive Mother's Day happy hour here.

[2:35] Elliott Mattox: Um, how is everyone doing?

[2:39] Robyn Hurder: Better now that I have a drink in my hand.

[2:42] Guests: Yes.

[2:42] Guests: Everything's great.

[2:44] Guests: Everything's so great.

[2:45] Robyn Hurder: It's amazing.

[2:47] Robyn Hurder: I was completely ready to sit down and do this with you guys.

[2:49] Robyn Hurder: I didn't just like run in here in the last moment.

[2:53] Robyn Hurder: Wearing pajama bottoms.

[2:55] Robyn Hurder: I have pajama bottoms.

[2:57] Robyn Hurder: I am a mess and a senior bra.

[3:00] Elliott Mattox: I am so impressed, Robyn.

[3:02] Robyn Hurder: And you know, always always doing something dumb in my basement.

[3:02] Robyn Hurder: Taking my kid to do it with me and then paying him with M&Ms.

[3:09] Robyn Hurder: Not kidding.

[3:11] Robyn Hurder: We're always doing something stupid in our basements.

[3:13] Jessica Rush: I'm I'm also in a basement.

[3:16] Jessica Rush: I had a change of location as of yesterday.

[3:20] Jessica Rush: Yesterday I drove from Kentucky to Connecticut in the like rain for 13 hours.

[3:27] Jessica Rush: It was really exhausting.

[3:29] Guests: Oh no.

[3:29] Jessica Rush: Um, but we're I'm happy to be here and a little change of scenery and a glass of water.

[3:34] Guests: Snowy in Connecticut.

[3:35] Jessica Rush: It did start snowing like an hour ago.

[3:38] Guests: Oh god, that is so wild.

[3:42] Guests: That is unacceptable.

[3:44] Guests: Unacceptable.

[3:45] Robyn Hurder: You know what other mother has been having a drink?

[3:48] Robyn Hurder: Mother Nature.

[3:48] Guests: Okay.

[3:49] Robyn Hurder: And she knows.

[3:50] Robyn Hurder: She said, This is I told y'all to stay inside.

[3:53] Robyn Hurder: You need to stay inside.

[3:55] Robyn Hurder: I'm not done yet.

[3:58] Guests: Oh my gosh.

[3:59] Elliott Mattox: Well, what is what is everyone imbibing on tonight?

[4:02] Elliott Mattox: What's that?

[4:02] Elliott Mattox: What's everyone drinking?

[4:04] Robyn Hurder: Oh, I've gone around the world.

[4:06] Robyn Hurder: I've had I've done a couple Bud Light seltzers.

[4:10] Robyn Hurder: Okay.

[4:11] Robyn Hurder: I've had a margarita, and then I just decided to switch to the lime because it was part of my act down in my basement that I'm filming for.

[4:21] Robyn Hurder: Yeah.

[4:23] Robyn Hurder: You're in character.

[4:25] Robyn Hurder: That is a mixed drink.

[4:25] Robyn Hurder: And thinking I can drink whatever I want and I'm gonna be fine tomorrow.

[4:30] Robyn Hurder: I'm not.

[4:31] Robyn Hurder: It's Mother's Day, so who cares?

[4:34] Guests: Yeah.

[4:35] Guests: It's your day.

[4:36] Robyn Hurder: You can be whatever you want.

[4:37] Robyn Hurder: I'm gonna put on a gown.

[4:43] Guests: I can't believe you're gonna put on a gown either.

[4:45] Robyn Hurder: I'm gonna put on a gown because it's the only one that'll fit me.

[4:48] Robyn Hurder: But there's one gown that will fit me around.

[4:51] Guests: Gowns.

[4:53] Jessica Rush: What are you drinking, Jess?

[4:58] Jessica Rush: Um, I am drinking, I'm so it's only 1 p.m. here in California.

[5:01] Jessica Rush: So because I'm in La Jolla, so I'm starting easy, but I found these.

[5:06] Jessica Rush: You guys, do y'all know this?

[5:08] Jessica Rush: This Ashland hard seltzer.

[5:10] Jessica Rush: It's organic.

[5:12] Jessica Rush: Organic, no sugar, gluten free.

[5:14] Jessica Rush: This is blackberry lemonade.

[5:15] Jessica Rush: I also enjoyed the pineapple.

[5:17] Jessica Rush: Oh, but um it's made with alkaline water.

[5:21] Guests: Oh, so you're all fancy about it.

[5:23] Guests: You are so bougie now that you're out on the other side, and I'm bought.

[5:28] Jessica Rush: This was at Target, y'all.

[5:30] Jessica Rush: It's not, I mean, I ain't that bougie.

[5:32] Guests: Wow.

[5:34] Caleb Dicke: Kara, what about you?

[5:35] Cara Cooper: I've got tequila and lime seltzer.

[5:38] Guests: Yes.

[5:40] Caleb Dicke: You know, work.

[5:42] Caleb Dicke: I do.

[5:44] Caleb Dicke: Belgian white ale.

[5:45] Caleb Dicke: And this one is from Aldi.

[5:47] Caleb Dicke: Do you guys know Aldi's?

[5:48] Guests: Yes.

[5:49] Caleb Dicke: I've never had their beer, and it's not actually it's a blue moon knockoff, and it's not too bad.

[5:54] Guests: Is that like like Trader Jose?

[5:57] Guests: I think so.

[5:57] Guests: They're their corona.

[5:59] Guests: Yeah.

[6:01] Caleb Dicke: Trader Joe's is actually owned by Aldi.

[6:04] Guests: Smart.

[6:05] Caleb Dicke: Okay, there it is.

[6:06] Caleb Dicke: It's like the European version of Trader Joe's, but there are some here in the states too.

[6:12] Elliott Mattox: Um, Elliott, what are you drinking?

[6:16] Elliott Mattox: Yeah.

[6:16] Elliott Mattox: I'm drinking something white.

[6:18] Elliott Mattox: I'm drinking quite wine.

[6:20] Elliott Mattox: Quite quite wine.

[6:23] Elliott Mattox: I a Sauvignon Blanc.

[6:25] Guests: You know, I actually just taught that to my son because we're learning about silent letters in words.

[6:30] Guests: Yeah.

[6:31] Guests: I was like, like, you don't you just say white.

[6:33] Guests: You don't say quite.

[6:36] Guests: White.

[6:37] Guests: Yeah.

[6:38] Guests: Yeah.

[6:38] Guests: Unless you're being fancy and bougie and you say quite quite.

[6:44] Guests: Yeah.

[6:45] Guests: Yeah.

[6:46] Guests: Yeah.

[6:47] Elliott Mattox: Because I I had like a stressful hour today.

[6:51] Elliott Mattox: Um, the rest of the day is gonna be great, but in transit, we it we were in Kentucky.

[6:58] Elliott Mattox: Tests, uh COVID tests are readily available there.

[7:01] Elliott Mattox: Um, so we decided to get tested before we traveled to make sure we were like okay before we kind of went across several states.

[7:09] Elliott Mattox: And my boyfriend got his test results negative, like at like noon today, and I was like, refresh, refresh, refresh.

[7:20] Elliott Mattox: Nothing.

[7:21] Elliott Mattox: So I had a full hour of like, I have I have COVID-19.

[7:26] Elliott Mattox: I'm gonna infect your entire family.

[7:28] Elliott Mattox: I'm gonna just be a leopard down in the basement for a month, and uh, and but then I got it before lunch, so it was great.

[7:36] Elliott Mattox: I I not I didn't get COVID, I got my critical that are that are negative before lunch.

[7:43] Elliott Mattox: I got COVID before lunch.

[7:45] Elliott Mattox: Quick.

[7:46] Elliott Mattox: So I've I had a bit of a stressful afternoon, but uh the this wine was necessary and refreshing.

[7:52] Guests: Feeling a little relief.

[7:54] Guests: Yeah, good.

[7:55] Guests: Yeah.

[7:55] Robyn Hurder: Necessary every I was just gonna say the drinks are necessary every day.

[7:55] Robyn Hurder: Every day.

[8:03] Robyn Hurder: I I have been drinking us non-stop in this, and you know, I'm just letting myself not feel not feel any kind of way about it.

[8:12] Robyn Hurder: Except great.

[8:14] Guests: You know, yeah, yep, yeah, I do know.

[8:17] Guests: I know really well.

[8:19] Guests: It's the only way getting earlier and earlier.

[8:23] Guests: I'm not and I'm not kidding.

[8:25] Guests: Like I love 11:35, good thing.

[8:29] Guests: You're like, it's past 10.

[8:32] Guests: Yeah, my eyes are open.

[8:34] Guests: I might as well.

[8:35] Guests: Yeah, it's a sad thing.

[8:36] Guests: I don't really have to teach school today at all.

[8:39] Guests: I love the weekends now because I don't have to teach school.

[8:42] Guests: I live for the weekends.

[8:44] Guests: Hi, that's why I started like and I used to hate the weekends.

[8:48] Guests: I know.

[8:48] Guests: Like if I wasn't doing a show because I'd be stuck at home with my kids all weekend, and my husband's in a show.

[8:53] Guests: So if I wasn't working, I'd be like, oh my god, I'm a kid's 24 hours a day on the weekend, and now I'm like, do the weekend, right?

[9:00] Elliott Mattox: How has um how has the the school situation been?

[9:04] Elliott Mattox: Like, what's what's been the journey there?

[9:11] Jessica Rush: I'm gonna let these these ladies go first because I've well we've talked about I mean we've we had this discussion on the episode we had with Robin a couple weeks ago.

[9:22] Jessica Rush: It has been it's just so much.

[9:24] Jessica Rush: I mean, I Kara has a whole nother hers, is mine's probably the minimum of all of it.

[9:30] Jessica Rush: I think I feel like I have like an hour and a half with Elliott every day, and she she doesn't tend to fight me too often.

[9:36] Jessica Rush: I sort of say, these are the things we have to do.

[9:38] Jessica Rush: What do you want to start with?

[9:39] Jessica Rush: You know, sometimes she'll say, That's so many things.

[9:44] Jessica Rush: Well, it's only an hour and a half, it's not that much time, you know.

[9:47] Jessica Rush: But um, yeah, you can do this, but um, it's been I actually really like the school part because and probably that's because she doesn't fight me too much.

[9:56] Jessica Rush: Don't I shouldn't let her hear me say that, but um I it gives structure to our day, and I really like that because otherwise I hate the weekends now.

[10:05] Jessica Rush: That's the thing.

[10:06] Jessica Rush: It's like I hate the weekends now because there's no structure, and she's and we're the only people she has to interact with, and it's like play Lego, play this, play pretend.

[10:14] Jessica Rush: Like you guys today, she's made uh posters.

[10:17] Jessica Rush: We're having a science fair apparently, and she she has made them and put them up all on the walls, and she's like, When are we making our science fair booths?

[10:24] Jessica Rush: I'm like, We're not science fair.

[10:29] Jessica Rush: We're not doing actually they'll be happy.

[10:34] Guests: Oh my god.

[10:35] Guests: Anyway, we love a science fair.

[10:39] Robyn Hurder: It is so, I mean, it's super intense.

[10:41] Robyn Hurder: I have like a little bit of a different situation because my daughter is autistic, so her schooling is like it's very structured, it's very rigid.

[10:48] Robyn Hurder: And she also has like physical therapy, speech therapy, occupational therapy, all through the computer, which means like I'm doing the therapy while the teacher is like saying, do this, do that, do this, do right.

[11:00] Guests: Yeah.

[11:01] Robyn Hurder: Um, there's like a thing going around YouTube right now.

[11:03] Robyn Hurder: It's like thanking the teachers, and it's all the zooms that you have to meet up with your kids.

[11:08] Robyn Hurder: And it's like it's fucking mind boggling.

[11:11] Robyn Hurder: Like at the end of the day, I'm like, get me away from the computer.

[11:14] Robyn Hurder: I don't want to see, I don't want to see you anymore, my child, and I don't want to do any more school, which is not a good way to feel.

[11:21] Robyn Hurder: And then I have a three-year-old who's like, let's color.

[11:24] Robyn Hurder: My husband tries to get him like write a letter, and he's like, I don't want to do school today.

[11:28] Robyn Hurder: Let's pretend and let him pretend.

[11:31] Robyn Hurder: I mean, he's three, it's fine.

[11:33] Jessica Rush: It's relatable content to not just want to pretend and not do school.

[11:38] Jessica Rush: Exactly.

[11:39] Jessica Rush: Exactly.

[11:40] Robyn Hurder: For sure.

[11:41] Robyn Hurder: My kid's just a dick.

[11:45] Robyn Hurder: He is so smart, and he's like, no, how about no?

[11:50] Robyn Hurder: Uh, and then he'd like turn it, then all of a sudden all of his bones seem to dissolve from his body, and all across the table.

[12:01] Robyn Hurder: I'm so tired.

[12:04] Robyn Hurder: It's just so easy, it's boring.

[12:06] Robyn Hurder: And I'm like, one of those high drama.

[12:14] Guests: No, don't know.

[12:17] Guests: So extra.

[12:18] Robyn Hurder: I have no idea.

[12:20] Robyn Hurder: Don't fall far, Robin.

[12:24] Robyn Hurder: No, it's just, it's just yeah, I I'm so not into it.

[12:27] Robyn Hurder: I'm just so not into it.

[12:28] Robyn Hurder: I you know, I think I said it with like in a lot I say to everybody, like these kindergarten teachers and elementary school teachers, all teachers, they go to college for this.

[12:38] Robyn Hurder: We don't.

[12:39] Robyn Hurder: We go to college to kick and belt.

[12:41] Robyn Hurder: Yeah.

[12:42] Robyn Hurder: Read lines and memorize them.

[12:43] Robyn Hurder: And we don't know about the psychology of how a child emotionally develops the maturity.

[12:53] Robyn Hurder: I'm talking to him like a 38-year-old.

[12:55] Robyn Hurder: And I'm like, dude, not he's not, you know, talking about persuasive writing.

[12:59] Jessica Rush: I'm like, Hudson, it's a goddamn opinion. What's your opinion? Tell me why you want to have ice cream. Write it. It's not that hard. Tell me why you want the ice cream. He's like, um, it's like they have block and I don't understand it. I'm like, okay, A, it's good. B, it has calcium, it's good for your bones. Three, it's like you know what I mean? It's just like it's it's a lot. It's a lot. And I'm I'm now I'm like ready for the summer, but then but then what? What is summer again? He was supposed to go to this like fancy schmanz soccer camp at world class, which is like the premier soccer because he's really good at soccer. And now that's not happening. And I'm like, and the battle between because Clyde, my husband, is a he's a very good soccer player.

He's also, you know, he does the Broadway dance and song. Yes. But he um he's so good at soccer and he has so much knowledge, and he's trying the the the father-son, it's literally like stage mom and son, but hilarious and death. It's hilarious. I'm like, babe, can you calm the fuck down? Like just like calm. He's like, I'm just like, wow. Feel dad. Feel dad. Yeah, yeah.

[14:15] Robyn Hurder: Clyde does a lot of things because I always see y'all like doing yard work and he plays, he writes music. He's very much a renaissance man.

[14:23] Jessica Rush: Really is. I I will say, I will say with this whole thing. Um, it's not that obviously we we appreciate our husbands and we love them so much, but when we get into a show schedule, we're constantly like back and forth, back and forth. I go to the city, you know, so much of my time is taken up by my commute because I live far out, and then actually do it's fucking snowing again. Sorry. Got a stay tomorrow, give me a gift. But um I don't know, it's just this this mo this this time at home with him has made me not a I've always appreciated him, but I'm like, I'm looking at him working out on that yard. He ripped out so much of these ugly plants and rocks, and he has he has been out there eight hours a day all day long.

Like he splits wood, he cuts down fucking trees, and then he like works with my son downstairs on soccer drills for an hour. I'm like, you are quite literally the most amazing person, and we've been together for 16 years, and I it's I'm kind of you know, you kind of like re fall in love with them in a different way, which that this could have not happened, or me really realizing it and seeing it if I was still you know doing eight shows a week. Yeah, you know what I mean? So silver linings, you know?

[15:43] Caleb Dicke: Yeah, totally. I think it's definitely like going. Well, what what um when you're not you when you're not, you know, schooling and and you know, juggling all these things, what what's entertaining you right now? Are you are you binge watching anything? What's uh what's been keeping you entertained through this time?

[16:07] Robyn Hurder: Sorry, Elliot, if you come into the room and she's like dancing over here on the side, you know.

[16:11] Jessica Rush: Love the name, love the name by the way.

[16:14] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, I say I wanted it to be two T's, but Eric only wanted one, so I let him win, but that's fine.

[16:21] Jessica Rush: I love it. That's okay, deep deep down. You know that you're correct.

[16:25] Robyn Hurder: I love exactly I love a boy name for a girl.

[16:29] Jessica Rush: Yeah, gender is so over, like just pick a nice name.

[16:32] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, almost every name on our list was a gender neutral sort of name.

[16:36] Jessica Rush: That was the same thing. Same thing with us. It's like if it's girls, Hudson.

[16:39] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, yeah, wouldn't that be hot if it was a girl?

[16:42] Jessica Rush: Yeah. Could you imagine having a girl?

[16:44] Robyn Hurder: No.

[16:45] Jessica Rush: No, thank god.

[16:48] Robyn Hurder: Someone someone came down and was like, uh, but um, we've been um we unorthodox.

[16:58] Jessica Rush: Did you guys watch?

[16:59] Robyn Hurder: Yes, I loved it.

[17:00] Jessica Rush: Oh good. I need to watch that since you know, like I live next to like the the huge where you live up there, yes.

[17:08] Robyn Hurder: I live a line, I jog by it every day.

[17:11] Jessica Rush: By what?

[17:12] Robyn Hurder: No joke. It's called Curious Joel, but because I'm a mother and we love curious Georgia, we go, curious Joel. I'm getting Cloud and I are going to write a parody song about it, but you know, we're yeah, it's it's intense. It's actually watch this and get it on real. For tonight. So good. And then we just watched Flea Bag.

[17:36] Jessica Rush: We're a little behind. I know.

[17:40] Robyn Hurder: Amazing. We just watched Flea Bag. Hot priests, you guys. I wasn't so into the first season, but then the second season, I was all in. Like it took me a minute, but then Hot Priest was like, I'm in. It's not perfect. So last scene at the bus stop. It's just oh so good. Anyway, that's more. That actor is watching Modern Love.

[18:04] Jessica Rush: Yes, he was happy with the character. Modern Love's really good.

[18:08] Robyn Hurder: Yeah. Okay. Because it's also like little vignettes, like you can watch one, and I mean it's not really binging because you can watch one and walk away because there's self-contained stories, but the actors are great. It's it's really good.

[18:19] Jessica Rush: Yeah. We watched, we watched the rest of Homeland. Have you guys watched that?

[18:24] Robyn Hurder: Not great.

[18:26] Jessica Rush: Now it's I think it was just season eight. And it's not like a great thing to watch during a global pandemic because it's so stress-inducing. You're like, why am I doing this to myself right before I go to bed? Like, yeah. Setting ourselves up for nightmares and failure and not sleeping.

[18:43] Robyn Hurder: Yeah. I I fully agree. That's how I couldn't, I couldn't get through even four episodes of Ozark.

[18:50] Jessica Rush: Oh, we started intense. I started hyperventilating and chugging soda. And I was like, I can't actually. Why am I doing this? I'm like, I need to watch good things that make me feel good. Like this this anxiety, this man, I I can't. Also, it's like a wannabe of mad uh of uh breaking handmaids.

[19:08] Robyn Hurder: Yes, oh I was all breaking uh I'm like literally like I'm like this is like they're trying to be breaking bad, even though like what's his face? Uh Jason Batman really can't do any wrong. He really can't. I'm like, calm down. We get it. I can see that you're reading the sides. I can see it. You know, like Laura Linny. I'm sorry, I'm probably gonna get bashed with this, but I'm like Laurel. I can see you reading, I can see it on the page. You know what I mean? Anyway, we stopped that and we and we got Disney Plus.

[19:39] Jessica Rush: Well, actually, we got April. We got Apple TV.

[19:47] Robyn Hurder: Yes. Oh, welcome. Yes. We got Apple TV and we uh we have uh YouTube TV and we have we got Disney Plus, like we really like opened the gates of heaven to television. And we've actually been binge watching like Disney Plus, like showing Hudson all the classics, which have been really like heartwarming. Um sorry, the imagineering story where they talk about different rides.

[20:17] Jessica Rush: It's the the like the imagineers talk about individual rides or how they can jump in it. What is it called again? The imagineering story, right? Caleb?

[20:27] Caleb Dicke: Yeah, it's some it's just search imagine and it'll pop up.

[20:31] Jessica Rush: So like how they engineer and come up with the rides, is that what it's about?

[20:34] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, and the stories parts of the Caribbean and the building the park. It's cool. See, and then and then Hudson's gonna be like, I want to go to Disney, and I'll be like, Boo, we can't. Can't go anywhere. We have a we have a trip planned in September, and I mean it's not that could happen, Cara.

[20:52] Jessica Rush: Disney, I guarantee you, if anyone is trying to figure out how to get people back, it is Disney Disney.

[20:57] Robyn Hurder: How are we gonna pay for it since nobody has Disney Shanghai or Disney Asia? Something opened up and there's no stage shows, but they're letting people in. Like Disney, what? Like Disney or yeah, somewhere in Asia they opened some parts.

[21:13] Jessica Rush: Yeah. Well, okay. Interesting. I don't I don't know. I mean, I think that that's kind of where we all are right now. It's like, like, who knows what things are gonna be like. I I like to be of the mind frame that like things got bad so fast, so maybe they could get better so fast just as fast.

[21:33] Robyn Hurder: They could. I mean, if if something happens scientifically, you know, I mean, who knows? Just around the corner every day, right? Have you have you guys seen there's like a page of a book that's going around that's highlighted about yeah, a global pandemic hitting in 2002? What's her name Sylvia Brown? Yeah, but then it like magically disappears. And somewhere in my heart, I really just hope that that's right, and it just magically disappears. It says it comes back in 10 years, but maybe we'd be more uh uh prepared for something that's happened.

[22:02] Jessica Rush: So I know. Have any of you watched the like the like pandemic thing that's going around, like the the conspiracy theory video? I'm like propaganda, yeah. It's like a conspiracy documentary. I use that term very loosely. If you look at the people that are involved in it, very like about like how everything is planned and everything, like it's but it's like it's like an a former employee of Fauci's that's like disgruntled is the charge of it. It's like uh there's so much wrong with it, but people keep sharing it. Like that's the thing, too. Is like oh you guys, y'all. My my relatives in Texas have posted it on their Facebook as facts saying this is what we're trying to tell you.

[22:44] Robyn Hurder: There's no i mean, it's that's a whole I mean, yes, people believe it is true and they are buying into it. And the rest of us, those of us, you know, particularly those of us who've been hit personally within our community. I mean, so many of us have been hit um and and what we've seen happen it's like apparently that's not real you know it's just all you know it's all and they believe that I mean that's what's crazy is like that's what we're up against, you know.

[23:11] Jessica Rush: So it's uh I haven't l watched it. I won't watch it too. I don't want to add to it, you know.

[23:16] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, I don't want to give it any, I don't want to give it a view.

[23:19] Jessica Rush: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to give it any energy. So yeah, no. If you're gonna watch that, you can just go to iTunes and give a five-star rating in review to Equity One and Mama's Talking Loud.

[23:29] Robyn Hurder: Okay. If you're gonna watch some bullshit, then you just go ahead and give us a review.

[23:34] Jessica Rush: Okay. You just go ahead and do that.

[23:37] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, exactly. Insane. I watched the classic last night, Clueless. It was on TV. So I I had to pull it back. I mean so good. And that's another thing. I feel like a lot of people are doing that. I I find myself doing that, is that you're going back and you're re-watching like your comfort movies. Like, I just want to watch Clue. I want to watch Honey I Shrunk the Kids, I want to watch the babysitter's dead. Like, I want to watch all of the things that make me feel like I'm a kid again and none of this is happening.

[24:06] Robyn Hurder: And make you feel safe because you're a kid, right? Like you remember the feeling so safe.

[24:10] Jessica Rush: Not adulting. Not adulting. Even the weird ones like the labyrinth and like the story. We're like, what the fuck is this?

[24:17] Robyn Hurder: Yeah. God, I love labyrinth.

[24:23] Jessica Rush: I do too. I think we might just watch that tonight. Uh Hudson.

[24:26] Robyn Hurder: Eric loves it.

[24:27] Jessica Rush: My husband loves that movie.

[24:29] Robyn Hurder: Oh I love it too. Yeah. I mean, I enjoy it, but he loves it.

[24:34] Jessica Rush: I love it. Someone posted an Instagram of just or like a claw, a collage photo of like David Bowie, just like in all these different outfits today. And there was one of him in like a like a like USA like flag speedo, and I was like, Hey, hey. I was like, David Bowie, what is happening?

[24:56] Robyn Hurder: Okay. All right. I have not watched anything new this week. Like I've been just binging the same fucking YouTube videos, the same. But I I will say, like, my our new kind of like quarantine ritual is watching um The Price Is Right and Jeopardy after the news. I'm kind of obsessed. Like, I'm like, is this is this who I am now? Like, am I gonna tape Jeopardy while I'm at the show when whenever work comes back? Like three three line it's been on the air for like seventy. I love that. Like when we're when we're unemployed and at home, Jeopardy is one of the best gifts. You know, it's like you get to watch Jeopardy.

[25:40] Jessica Rush: I love that. Yeah. Um are you the person who would bet one dollar? Are you ever that person who's like one dollar?

[25:48] Robyn Hurder: All of it. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's probably also strategy, but it's strategy, but as much as possible. I I feel that way. Like when I watch when I watch like deal or no deal, I'm like, I'm like, go for the deal.

[26:01] Robyn Hurder: Like, don't be safe. It's a game show. Like you came there with nothing.

[26:05] Jessica Rush: Right.

[26:07] Robyn Hurder: What do you have to lose?

[26:08] Jessica Rush: Jinx, buy me a coke.

[26:10] Robyn Hurder: Cheers. Once I see you, I'll buy you a glass of wine.

[26:15] Jessica Rush: Yeah, I'm just like prices, right? My mom all, my mom on a pop all used to watch that, y'all, like religiously. And I could do all the Broadway shows there are. I could be on a TV show. I could do all these things, and my mama would still say to me, Well, when are you gonna be on the process rock? Like that was that was the made it.

[26:34] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, I love I love the price.

[26:36] Jessica Rush: It is snow swelling outside, guys. It's a blizzard. I don't know if you can see it. Hold on.

[26:40] Robyn Hurder: Oh my god, white out.

[26:45] Jessica Rush: I literally I have to actually show you what's happening outside. Can you see my May 9th?

[26:53] Robyn Hurder: It's May School. Y'all, I remember how in February it was like 70 degrees a few days. Do you remember that?

[27:01] Jessica Rush: Yes.

[27:02] Robyn Hurder: Oh my god. I can't. It's a goddamn blizzard.

[27:07] Jessica Rush: Oh my god. I'm so sorry. The one thing I'm hoping comes from all this mess is that there is at least some like, you know, some some repairing of the environment happening right now because there ain't no factories, there ain't no driving, you know. Like hopefully there's at least a little bit of silver lining with all that.

[27:28] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, like an awareness of how we are affecting the planet, a real awareness, you know.

[27:34] Jessica Rush: Real actual, you know what I mean? It's like the have y'all seen that photo of China, yeah, the side by side of the pollution.

[27:41] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, it's crazy, and how they are seeing like the Himalayas for the first time in 40 years in New Delhi.

[27:47] Jessica Rush: I mean, it's wild. That's wild, and it happens so fast.

[27:51] Robyn Hurder: It did. I know, yeah, yeah. It happened really fast. So hopefully that this is just a little reset for everyone.

[27:58] Jessica Rush: That's what, yeah. That's what I've talked about with Kara. It's like I feel like it's a hard reset. Like it was needed, and it's for everyone. Like, we're all sort of the earth is resetting, we're simplifying.

[28:09] Robyn Hurder: I just have to tell y'all, I have a five-year-old girl right now sly sidling up to me with Legos in her hands.

[28:16] Jessica Rush: Bring her on. Let's see.

[28:18] Robyn Hurder: Come on. She is really good that she she's not, she knows better. Like she's not getting in the camera.

[28:24] Jessica Rush: She's not in the frame.

[28:25] Robyn Hurder: Yeah. My husband is like, hey, what you doing? Hi. Love me more than her.

[28:34] Jessica Rush: Hello. Look, I need sisters. They're so cute. We'll play when we're done, okay?

[28:41] Robyn Hurder: Is this like that's what girls are like?

[28:44] Jessica Rush: I have a I have a Lego question.

[28:46] Robyn Hurder: Yeah.

[28:47] Jessica Rush: Like, is it a set? Is it like free form? Or like, what are we doing? What are we dealing with here on the Lego?

[28:52] Robyn Hurder: Lego friends.

[28:53] Jessica Rush: Oh there is Elliot. Get your bus. We'll show them the bus.

[28:57] Robyn Hurder: There are there are Lego friends that are these five girls who like that's all brightly colored stuff. She's it's over there, babe. And uh not only do we have the Lego friends, which is what Elliot is really into. Like, she built this bus. Hold on, wait, gorgeous. That's why you guys, if you open the doors, it's got a kitchen and a pool, you guys.

[29:23] Jessica Rush: Oh my god, but but the thing is, okay. Put it down. But the thing is, is not only did she want to do it, but let me see if I can show you what my husband oh dang, what's that one? It's a village, it's a pirate ship work. Damn, and uh and a ghost lighthouse or something. Eric has got you're not Lego people, we're Lego people. We never were before. Legos are the most therapeutic, like it's like therapy, it's like you it's meditation. You're just following the directions, putting them together, doing the things, yeah.

[29:58] Robyn Hurder: So this is we that's what we're doing.

[30:02] Jessica Rush: I love it. I used to love Legos. I was a big fan of like there was like a spaceship series. So I would do all the like the spaceships and like the Mars series. That was that was a big one for me.

[30:10] Robyn Hurder: Yeah.

[30:10] Jessica Rush: Yeah. I was Harry Potter Legos. Those were big. Well, I can't wait. She doesn't know Harry Potter. So I once we start reading the books, which I think will be soon. And then once I introduced her to that, then we're gonna do Harry Potter.

[30:22] Robyn Hurder: Oh, yeah.

[30:23] Jessica Rush: Yeah. Movies.

[30:24] Robyn Hurder: Yeah. Well, since we were talking about, you know, what I was into, what I was into as a kid personally, the Legos. Um, we we start out every interview at Equity One by asking our guests what first got them interested in the arts when they were younger, like what first kind of like sparked that interest. Um, so why don't we start with Cara and we'll go we'll go down.

[30:45] Cara Cooper: So let's see. I my my mother always tells me this quote that friends of ours took me for the day to like the zoo with their son, and he brought me home and he said, She's the perfect grandchild because you can give her back at the end of the day. Because apparently I sang the entire score to George M. Cohan on the way.

[31:09] Cara Cooper: George M. Why? Yankee Doodle Dandy, apparently. That's right. Uh, and didn't stop talking. And I am now on the receiving end of that with my son who does not stop talking all day, who is uh constantly talking. Um, so I I actually did commercials when I was super super young. Um, like before I was walking, um, just because my parents were like, I don't know, they thought I should. So it was kind of the bug was in me from the get go, and I was always performing, just always performing. And I remember like, you know, going through doing all the plays in school. I was always dancing and dance class. I mean, I can't even remember how many hours a week, but six six days a week for sure. I know, Robin, you are probably the same.

Always, always dancing. I like um doing all the shows, doing all the plays at school, and it was coming time to make a decision to go to college, and I was either gonna be a doctor or an actress. And I I don't know if I chose why here we are. Um so yeah, I mean, I always I just I I it was always in me. It's what I've always always wanted to do. I can't remember a time not wanting to be on Broadway, like truthfully, and like film TV, all that's great, but all I ever wanted to do was be on Broadway. And we were a big theater going family. I mean, we saw every my I saw La Cage aux Folles when I was three. So like oh wow, yeah. I mean, I yeah, it was just part of my upbringing. So I saw it in real life and and I remember leaving Guys and Dolls, the revival of Guys and Dolls with Faith Prince.

The one I was in a good one, yes, not the one you were in. Um and weeping in the car, weeping. And my parents were like, what is wrong with you? And I was like, that is what I want to do when I so just yeah, and then and so it's just always, I don't know. I can't remember a time not wanting to do it.

[33:12] Robyn Hurder: A quick a few quick follow-ups. Tell us more about that commercial work. I want to know like what were the commercials?

[33:19] Cara Cooper: Like what were we looking at?

[33:22] Cara Cooper: I mean, HBO, GIF peanut butter. I mean, you were big time. You can find a couple of them on the interwebs, not by searching for my name, but by knowing the year that they all came out, which I'm not telling you.

[33:35] Cara Cooper: Yeah. Oh, Pepsi. I was in this big Pepsi commercial with um Keisha Knight Pullman who played Rudy on the on the Cosby show. We were like, I mean, it's horrible. It was the 80s, but I was the token white girl and she was the token black girl who were being friends. I mean, it was like such a big deal back then, which is horrible. Um, but it was it was a sign of the times. Um, so we spent it, we spent two days shooting that film and uh shooting that commercial, the tequila is getting to me, everybody. Um I just remember being like best friends with Rudy for two days.

[34:10] Jessica Rush: Yes, is it a Boda box? Dreams right there.

[34:15] Cara Cooper: Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was it was the best of times. I loved it, and I loved shooting them. Um, and then I was in first or second grade, and my mom picked me up to go to an audition. She picked me up from field day at school, and I was like, mom, I don't want to leave field day. And she goes, Well, I we have to go to this audition because we told your manager you would be there, and we never have to go to another one again. And we didn't until I was I re entered the business.

[34:42] Jessica Rush: Wow.

[34:43] Cara Cooper: Yeah.

[34:44] Robyn Hurder: I love that. And and then you said you were saw you were seeing shows super young, like La Cage at three, which is like fierce. Um what was like what was like a cast recording that like rocked your world? Like, what was the one when you were younger?

[34:59] Cara Cooper: I mean, if we're talking like high school, I was obsessed with Tommy. Like of sure messed with Tommy. Um, what recording wasn't on Luke, truthfully. When I was I really liked Starlight Express when I was and my childhood friend who actually lives in a town that I live in right now, we always used to act it out, like truthfully. Like one of who we always we always wanted to be Dinah. One of us always wanted to be Dinah. We had to fight over it. Um, but yeah, Starlight Express. I all I ever wanted to do. And Robin, you've lived it. You've lived it. And now, like as a professional, I'm like, oh my god, nightmares. That's no, I fucking hated it, but I gave me my equity card and gave me one of my best friends, Katie O'Toole. Uh you know, Jersey Boys girl. So you guys must have been in heaven asking her all these questions because she was the dining guy. See just seeing her in those costumes. I was like, oh my gosh.

[35:56] Robyn Hurder: Well, you know, we got those Vegas costumes from like '94, whenever Starlight Express wasn't so we had a what I call them a double thong where you got a thong in the front, a thong in the back. This is Katie. Who played Dinah on the national tour? Um, she she looked pretty fierce, and she was the most perfect Dinah.

[36:15] Jessica Rush: Oh yeah.

[36:16] Robyn Hurder: Oh yeah. Starlight Express. Starlight Express. That hit Jesus.

[36:22] Jessica Rush: Yeah, the hit.

[36:23] Robyn Hurder: That mega mega hit.

[36:24] Jessica Rush: My Germany, right? About them bringing it back. He's like, what if they revive Starlight Express? My brother loves it too. I mean, we both love it, but he will never revive that show.

[36:37] Robyn Hurder: Oh my god, it's cats on wheels.

[36:39] Jessica Rush: Oh who knows? Maybe maybe it'll be the first thing to come back, you know. You can be socially distant in a roller rink. You set it immersive.

[36:51] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, who knows? Guys, we're coming up with it right now.

[36:54] Jessica Rush: I mean, my three-year-old who's obsessed with trains. I feel like he would be all about it. Like, I feel like he would be thinking it's incredible. He loves like you know, sort of animated automobile. That's all he watches on TV. So why wouldn't he like people?

[37:09] Robyn Hurder: There it is. Just letting everybody know if they want if they if people think, like, oh my god, I want to be in Starlight Express. Let's just let me I'll let you know what how what goes into your body wasn't from an audience for Starlight Express.

[37:23] Jessica Rush: Oh god. Hours of training, not even fucking choreography or music. It's training to be a roller skater.

[37:32] Robyn Hurder: Nope. Not me.

[37:33] Jessica Rush: Let's just moving on. Too much. I did it. I did a summer stock production of Xanadu, and I was not one of the skaters. So I I was cut from the skating. Um, but yeah, uh, that's that's definitely a skill, a more of a roller bladder in my day, you know.

[37:52] Robyn Hurder: Anyway, neither. Jessica, what um tell us about young young you and what first piqued your attention.

[38:01] Jessica Rush: I will try to keep it short. Um, because it's long. No, my parents met in the theater department in college, like they knew of each other, and they went to neighboring competing high schools, and they were both in the acting in the theater department. So like they knew of each other, and then they went to the same college. And so, and my dad was a high school drama teacher for he retired a couple years ago to move up to New York and he for 37 years, I think. And my mom is a school teacher too. But my father, like we grew up, I grew up doing community theater. Like when my mother did Godspell when she was seven months pregnant with me, singing Turnback Oh Man. You know, her costume, and it tells you when I was born, when it was popular, and um, and then like when I was 10 weeks old, I played model and Zidel's baby in Fiddler on the Roof. My father was modeling. So like I literally just there's no other, you know. My dad and I used to sing the Saigon in the car.

[38:54] Robyn Hurder: Do you know what I mean? With you know, and I it's like this is what we did, this is who we are. And my brother, God love him, he tried other things. Like I danced at the dance class, and I did all the stuff yet. Triple threat, and I'm a singer who moves really well. And he uh he tried to do other things, but ultimately he runs a he created a theater school in Wellesley, Massachusetts. Like he's so we're all what we do. And when my father went on a tour one year, my mom took over his theater department because she's a special ed teacher. So it's just like it's who we are. I mean, I was there were always albums, show tunes playing in our house, and like the first time I went to New York was 91, and I was 10, and um, and we uh we saw Death and the Maiden with Len Cope and Richard Dreyfus and Gene Hackman.

Like, so that it was like that. Like, that's my parents thought nothing of taking 10-year-old me. You know, I was for a kid, and I'm a theater kid, but you better believe people in the in the theater were looking at them like, what are they doing? I've it's it's a little intense that show, but um, yeah, that's all we ever did. My whole childhood, all my memories are just you know, going from school to my dad's high school to be with him while his students rehearse their plays, and then when they were done at like six, we would get in the car and drive to our rehearsal for whatever community theater show we were doing, and you know some of my best memories, like my most the theater is so comfortable to me.

Like it is my home, it is my church. It's like I remember laying on a mat, like a pallet in the back of the house in the dark like listening to them rehearse you know when I was a really small kid and so it's just it's such a safe space for me yeah I miss it that's incredible I know we miss it for us to be back yeah anyway but that's that's my I there was never another there was never anything else so you you grew up in like a theater family they're all still theater people and now you have a family as a theater person like do you see like any parallels things that like you're like oh maybe is Elliot a theater person is Elliot a theater person she is um it it goes and comes she's definitely likes a spotlight and she's becoming I can see the confidence growing um she's uh she's also like super smart you know what I mean and she's like she's into Legos and she's very um she's a Virgo so everything is super like organized and there's a plan and she's very type A with her things and um it's interesting she's an artist and I can hear I can she sings on pitch so at least we have that um but and she likes to come see us do it but when it comes down to it I think there's still like a a nervousness about it you know like you never know she you know we never know what you're gonna get if so that's why we don't if she wants to go she's auditioned for a couple things commercially like when they call us and say bring Elliot with you.

[41:57] Jessica Rush: Yeah and she enjoys it but also at the same time like she might decide I don't want to that day.

[42:02] Robyn Hurder: Right.

[42:03] Jessica Rush: You know, it's not an overwhelming the amount of times they tried to get her to come in to be little Lulu at waitress, she was not having it. Because you know what? She said, What if I get tired, mom? Work, yes, honey. And I worry. I mean she's heard us say that I'm sure, you know, like I'm tired. I don't want to go to work. You know, that's hilarious because that is a struggle. You know, she really nailed it. It's like four and a half. That's what she said. She's like, I get tired. So you don't want to go to work. I know. I mean I got out. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, that's that's us. And okay. She Eric's taking her to the other. Eric's like, oh, come on, girl. He's like, come on. Um, but Eric's parents were his mom sang with the carpenters in college, and his father was an actor and a bass player.

[42:54] Robyn Hurder: Cool.

[42:55] Jessica Rush: So cool. Yeah, that's so good. We had a band called the what was the carpenter band? The spectrum. The spectrum. And his mom was the singer and Karen played the drums. And Karen sang too. But she was in it with the Carpenters and back in college. And then when they decided to create the Carpenters, she started the sound arrangement with other people. And Eric's dad was the bass player for that. And that's where they met and they played in Oh Robin. There's a whole like, yeah. Love the Carpenters. Yeah. Yeah. She's on their white album. Like there's a white album. Yes. Yeah. We both come from these like artist and actory families, you know. So we have a very similar upbringing, which is um, which is sort of probably why we're so well matched.

[43:44] Robyn Hurder: Works. Yeah. So cool. Like my family were not art people at all. Like they appreciated it, but definitely not like, you know, my mom sings in the church choir, and that's yeah, that's about it. You know, like oh no, my father will be like, um, uh, I saw your interviewing uh uh Tara Rubin. You're interviewing her to do some podcast. They're in our world and we live in our apartment. They're in our world, but like they're still so enamored with it all, which is really lovely. It's nice to be reminded of that.

[44:16] Jessica Rush: Yes, yeah.

[44:17] Robyn Hurder: So anyway, that's us. I'm gonna get another drink while Robin starts to tell us briefly.

[44:22] Jessica Rush: Yeah, yes, as I was walking down to get my box.

[44:28] Robyn Hurder: That was the quality content though. And I tried to apply it, my cam. Wow. She was really good.

[44:35] Jessica Rush: You're welcome.

[44:36] Robyn Hurder: I know down in the dark, and I was like, Where's she going? I'm a mess. Anyway, no, you're nailing it.

[44:50] Jessica Rush: I'm really nailing it.

[44:54] Robyn Hurder: Nope. Anyway, you wanna know how I got it?

[44:59] Jessica Rush: Yeah, tell me when it all began.

[45:04] Robyn Hurder: Oh god. Well, um, at six I saw the show Cats. I'm not kidding. I saw cats, and I saw the white kitty and I was done. I was literally like, I want to do that. And my I was very similar to Hudson, where I was just like a fucking basket case, and my mom was like, She just put me in a dance school, like a dance class, and she was like, She has I feel like she has a lot of talent, she's just so unorganized. Can you just like fix her? And so I started dancing, and um, and and throughout that, my parents like the if you talk about like a soundtrack that I blew up when I was seven years old, lame as a Rob, specifically lovely ladies. Like I'm not, I I have I am not shitting you whatsoever. I'm not putting that on with track five. And I would I would get a chair. I would get a chair and I would do it for my parents.

[46:08] Incredible.

[46:08] Robyn Hurder: Because I didn't know what it was. I was like, lovely lady. Yeah. And tracks. Spreading my legs like because I just what I saw at the Wang Theater in Boston. Something. So we would always go to Boston to see these national tours that would come out. And so I really that's a telltale sign of where I was headed. And so that's what I blew up. I blew up the Lamez soundtrack and the cat. If you put the cat soundtrack on now, I could still say every word to you. Every single one. And that's hard. Yeah, I I could. Um, but then uh I went to New York for the first time, New York City, uh, for a dance competition. I competed for two years, and I realized this is a horrendous way to uh uh I don't know, grow up in the dance world, even though my husband was like a professional champion competition dancer, but I just it wasn't my bag.

I just was like, oh my god, everyone's just trying to be better than the other person, and that's not that's not love. But I I competed for two years, and the first year I went, I was 11 years old, and I went to it was 94, and I saw my first Broadway show, which was Dan Yankees, the revival with Victor Garber, BB New Earth, gorgeous. I mean, Scott Wise. I I could list the whole cast. It was I sat in third row and I and I say I say this all the time, but I don't get tired of telling it because it it literally it makes me makes me feel better every time I say it. But I'm sitting in the theater and I'm 11 years old. I'm sitting next to my mom and I see BB Newworth as Lola like rise out of the ground to this like and that's like the entrance and there's smoke and haze, and she's in a platinum blonde wig and a pink boustier, pink eyes, pink stilettos, and she's like chief you ran or whatever.

And I literally turned to my mom and I said, I'm 11. I said, Mom, that's what I want to do when I grow up. And that was it. That was it. And I just like kept working and working and and trained a lot in ballet because I knew that I wanted to be a certain kind of dancer because dance dancing was my first, my first thing, my first love. That's where I started, that's my comfort zone. And I uh really trained throughout my teenage years as a uh as a ballet dancer to try to get that technique. And then once I turned 16, 17, I started to dabble into singing because I realized like, oh, I need to sing, and uh yeah, and then I uh I just I don't know. Here you are.

[48:43] Jessica Rush: Yeah, here I am. I I tried college for a second, and then I was I drank my way through a year and a half, and I was like, I just want to get in here and try it. I did. I went to University of New Hampshire and I drank my way through college. Work. A lot of my parents are gonna be listening to this and they're gonna be like, good job, Rob, good job. And I was G and I was like, I just want to go and make an ass out of myself and just actually I learned by doing, and I just wanted to go and wait in back then it was uh Chelsea Studios um 151 West 26th Street. Those were my first group like my first real like audition, you know, where I auditioned in the first place. And I don't know. I did it, I got some jobs and I I just kept going.

Yeah, I am there's no one in my family that's um anything, nothing uh with the arts. My mom is just like she has a deep appreciation for music, and her dad, funny enough, was um a huge uh jazz fan, and my mom hated it because he would blare it all the time on Sundays. He would blare this big band jazz music, and she hated it so much. And then when I started to grow up being a teenager, and just even a few summers ago, she was in my house and she goes, Robin, you are playing these not even just the same style, but the same exact recordings that my father would play.

[50:09] Jessica Rush: Oh wow.

[50:10] Robyn Hurder: Wow. It's very strange how genetics they they skip around, but I clearly have a huge part of my grandfather that I never even met. Um passed away before I was born. But anyway, tangents, why, you know, and I was literally right away. And I think that's I think that's so cool. I mean, you're just saying that that tie to your your grandfather, you know, you all, you know, Karen Jessica, you all you know, have ties in your families and and and even not maybe not necessarily in your family's born too, but like now building a family with artists with creative people, it's something like special that I think that like creative people and especially I think theater artists and people who do music and those kinds of things. We we just like vibrate on a different frequency a little bit.

[50:57] Jessica Rush: Yes, yeah, for sure. It's it's funny all actor couples in here are we all yeah we are yeah it's funny we have like a lot of therapists come in and out of our house to deal with our daughter to give her therapies and like one one of them that came in like we have dance parties and play instruments all the time and you know we it's just part of who we are right it's just what we do and she said you guys are so fun I was like do other people not do this like is this not what other people do and she's like no and you kind of forget my husband's from he's one of six kids that have all worked professionally as actors um and so like it's just it's all it's just what we do and you don't even second guess it and it is it's super special to be raising kids specifically in like a theater family I think.

[50:58] Robyn Hurder: Yeah I I agree I totally agree it's I I I actually just I posted something on Instagram yesterday that I'm just like and I I said you know I I think about because we have to submit all the work that we do you know uh you know they send assignments through Google classroom or whatever and you have to submit everything and and my son yesterday wrote like the most ridiculous shit about me as a mother and I but I was like it's accurate he was like my favorite fruits meat she loves nature and wine and then he actually wrote Yasqueen which I can't handle and and I submitted it and I said happy Mother's Day and I was thinking about it and I'm just like let me just like go on Instagram to see if I can find them.

[52:33] Robyn Hurder: Like to see if like his two kindergarten teachers are on there.

[52:39] Jessica Rush: And I I couldn't find them, but I I just wonder because Instagram is such a it's such a thing.

[52:44] Robyn Hurder: And I'm like they looked at me, like, look at me. I'm just saying, like, I I mean, I'm a different mom, but I'm just like, I where I come from, they I one of these things is not like and I was thinking about it. I'm like, what if they looked at my Instagram and be like, what the fuck is this woman doing? But one thing that they do say as I fan around um with my Laduka boots still on. I don't know. I I do I know that he is getting especially like what we're giving to our kids when we bring them to the theater and they're exposed to this world that it's a it's a it's a handful of of kids, a small handful of kids who get to experience what we get to expose them to, you know what I mean? Like taking them to the theater and meet and and really, you know, embracing our culture and them being friends with all of our friends. It's such a different life, but I think a beautiful and really uh it's special, it's so unique and special. And I think that these kids are I don't know.

[53:58] Cara Cooper: I no, I completely agree. I mean, like I grew up in a really like very small town in Kentucky, like away from it all. And uh, you know, when I started dancing, getting serious and meeting adult professionals that were like doing what I wanted to do, the connection was instant, and I was like, these are my people, and then to be able to see them, like, you know, I was a young gay kid to like get to see like an adult gay person like being successful for me was like so huge. And that's a cool thing about theater is it it's not just like gay, straight, you know, mom, dad, single, whatever, like thrupple, whatever your deal is. You as a kid, you can see all kinds of people uh working toward a common goal and having a community, and think it's really really special.

[54:43] Robyn Hurder: Um my son was four years old, and he and I literally one morning because we were out of town doing Mulan Rouge, not to cut you off. Um, we were Mulan doing uh Mulan Rouge out of town in Boston, and I brought him to the theater, and Jay Magis, who plays Baby Doll on our show, he's a drag queen, you know. And my son's never seen that, and he walked into the theater and he was scared because he he knew because Jay was talking to him, like Jay, right? Like, who's the scary bald lady? She has a really deep voice, and literally I had to explain to him what a drag queen was, right? Biden and I both explained him what it was and why it's trying to explain to a four-year-old why he has makeup on in a show, but then he's I I told Jay, I'm like, Can you come meet us so he can see you outside of the makeup so he can see that it's an act, like it's a different character, and right, but you know not every kid gets to have that, but I love that the next morning when Hudson woke up, he goes, So mommy, a drag queen is and you know, and now on his homework yesterday, he wrote Yas Queen. What Jay told him, he taught him that that day that he was like, That's the scary bald lady, so I wouldn't have it any other way. I love it.

[56:07] Jessica Rush: Yeah, totally. I mean, we were watching Eric's doing this thing for kinky boots. They're you know, as as all these shows seem to be doing like things right now, boots is doing a thing, and he was in the original company, and so we started showing Elliot clips from the Tonies and from them on the view and stuff, and um, and she was loving it, and then she wanted to watch more, so that was good. But I you know, I said I was like, Those women, I said, Those are men, I said those are drag queens, and she goes, Yeah, mom, I know you've called me before. And I was like, obviously, yeah, mom. I mean, I I mean I have told her before, but I didn't think she, you know what I mean? Like it's come up before, but I've didn't think she retained it, but apparently she did, and she was like, Yeah, mom, I know they dress up like girls. I was like, Okay, and like and just keeps going, you know what I mean? Just keeps as easy as that.

[56:54] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, well, and those are the those are the good things about this. But I just want to add before we like move on to like fun things, like obviously, like actor-actor relationships, like they're great because you have someone that understands the lifestyle, very so you know, similar mindsets, but they also come with challenges. So, have you all faced any challenges with being families in the in the arts and like the the different world that that is, or if not, that's great.

[57:21] Cara Cooper: Well, right now it means we're both unemployed, right? Yeah, and there's no hope of it for either any of us. I mean, it's like it means we're all yeah, just yeah waiting. But the hours for being a parent are really difficult. Um, if you both are in a show at the same time, and especially like Robin and I live far away from the city, so cu adding that commute time makes it doubly hard. Like the actual face-to-face time you have with your kids is shortened. Um, so when my husband and I are both working, that's really hard. Um, but in the same breath, like he gets it, it. It's not like he doesn't understand that if I'm going to rehearsal, I'm gonna be gone for these hours. There's no discussion that needs to take place. We know what it is. Like we know how to do it. Um so I mean it there are pluses and minuses, but it's who we are. So yeah, you know, I don't know. How do you feel about it, Robin?

[58:13] Robyn Hurder: I well for me, especially because we um as I fan kick back in, um I uh we live superbly far away. We live, you know on a Friday or a Sunday afternoon it could take an hour and 45 minutes to get into the city. I'm only 40 minutes to the bridge it's just you know the artery into the island. Um so ideally we always I I it's not that I like it because I know one of us is gonna suffer because Clyde and I are both um we love we need an artistic outlet and we love performing. It's not just like oh I want to create and do shit. Like we want to be on stage when we're performing like that's what we want to hear the yeah I do yeah and and he hasn't had that and it we have had some many many a conversation about trying to come back to the realization of like this is our situation and we chose this lifestyle which is we live really fucking far away and if we both were on this schedule someone a stranger a babysitter would be raising our son.

[59:29] Jessica Rush: Yeah.

[59:29] Robyn Hurder: And this is a vital time in his life, especially with soccer. Like he's he's actually really, really good. And I don't I know shit about soccer. He's fucking amazing. It's like like to a point where I'm like, you're gonna we we're gonna go to Europe in 10 years because we're gonna go to Europe in 10 years. He's that good. He's he's that good. Uh and I I'll take it. He does not do show business. Um, but uh at all. But I I tell I have to reassure Clyde, like I'm like, this is not how it should be. I can't, I would if you got some big job. The problem is we need to have a job that's big enough to support this house and our lifestyle. Like, I mean, it's so expensive living out here, just with commute, all that stuff. But I'm like, we actually need to have one person working and one person not. So he can we can actually make money and we can actually have a parent raise him.

[1:00:29] Jessica Rush: Yeah.

[1:00:30] Robyn Hurder: Because I can't have I understand babysitters and and we do depend on them, but the way our lifestyle is both of us doing eight shows a week, like we do 15 to 18 hours of commute every week.

[1:00:45] Jessica Rush: Yeah, wow.

[1:00:46] Robyn Hurder: It's so much we we because we have to leave, we have to leave two to two and a half hours to get to the city no matter what. Right, at grace time, yeah. No accidents, traffic, we just have to. And then that's also money out of our pockets for a sitter, and then it's someone that's not giving him what what you know the best yeah is obviously his parents, but like I don't know, it's it's a lot.

[1:01:08] Cara Cooper: There's always gonna be sacrifices, like a trade-off, yeah.

[1:01:10] Robyn Hurder: It's a balance, yeah.

[1:01:15] Jessica Rush: I think that it's good for people to hear that that are in the business, and good for you people to hear that that aren't in the business. That like we're dealing with the same trade-off sacrifices that everyone else is dealing with in their normal lives, just in a different kind of way.

[1:01:31] Elliott Mattox: Um, well, let's get to some silly stuff. Caleb, do you have a blonde girl moment this week?

[1:01:35] Caleb Dicke: I do. Can we hit that real Brit?

[1:01:38] Caleb Dicke: Maybe I better go.

[1:01:42] Caleb Dicke: Oh, maybe I better go.

[1:01:57] Caleb Dicke: Isn't that gorgeous? This is Caleb's this is Caleb's segment where he gives his thoughts on a random topic um topic.

[1:02:07] Jessica Rush: Yeah.

[1:02:08] Caleb Dicke: Or a big I love it. Give it to me. So I I live I'm in Ohio, and um that's my slogan, hashtag blonde girls from Ohio. So I noticed that like we are washing our hands every day, and I want to see if we can agree on this two part first part. Um bar soap is stupid. Why even have bar soap? Can we agree on that?

[1:02:23] All: Yes, great.

[1:02:29] Caleb Dicke: Mean like oh, like actually like a dove bar. Yes, it's only good for like a bathtub when you're like spa and you're like, ooh, I got this really good smelling bar soap and it's got little granules in it so you can get a lot of it. Excellent. Yes.

[1:02:45] Jessica Rush: Thank god. I was worried I would have to debate liquid soap versus bar soap.

[1:02:50] Caleb Dicke: Yes, it's two it's 2020, like get liquid soap, like get real.

[1:02:54] All: Yes.

[1:02:56] Caleb Dicke: Thank god. Okay, so this one it might be a little bit harder to convince you all. Um, the best smell scent is eucalyptus.

[1:03:03] Jessica Rush: There it is.

[1:03:04] Caleb Dicke: Of soap?

[1:03:05] Jessica Rush: Of so of soap.

[1:03:07] Caleb Dicke: Eucalyptus. I want I want I want a blombo. I want a combo of lavender and eucalyptus.

[1:03:13] Jessica Rush: That's nice.

[1:03:15] Robyn Hurder: I like a lemon.

[1:03:16] Jessica Rush: I like like a fresh, clean.

[1:03:20] Robyn Hurder: Yeah.

[1:03:20] Caleb Dicke: I mean, I I can get on board with the eucalyptus, but there's something about it that reminds me of like a hall is like makes me think that I'm it's a different, it's uh eucalyptus reminds me of being sick.

[1:03:32] Jessica Rush: Or like because it's what I use.

[1:03:34] Robyn Hurder: So if I want soap, I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go to a lavender soap. I'm gonna go to potentially like a cherry almond.

[1:03:42] Caleb Dicke: Okay, Elliot, that's the very almond.

[1:03:46] Robyn Hurder: That's the very jurgens.

[1:03:48] Caleb Dicke: That's a Jergens around.

[1:03:52] Jessica Rush: Yeah.

[1:03:52] Caleb Dicke: Do you accept um I'll accept vanilla as well, like during the winter season, like vanilla apple.

[1:03:57] Robyn Hurder: Oh, I love vanilla.

[1:03:58] Jessica Rush: No, oh uh moms, you hate it.

[1:04:01] Caleb Dicke: Tell us about something vanilla.

[1:04:03] Robyn Hurder: I want to eat it out of an oven.

[1:04:05] Jessica Rush: Yeah, not with my hands.

[1:04:07] Caleb Dicke: I actually want I want two different I want like the lemon in the kitchen for one of the hands. And then in the bathroom, I want like the lavender or around Christmas time, something festive, something fall like, you know, bathroom always puts out the evergreen, something like that.

[1:04:24] Robyn Hurder: But in the kitchen, I always want a lemon brightness, like a really fresh scent or clean water.

[1:04:32] Jessica Rush: That's that one for method at Target or whatever.

[1:04:34] Robyn Hurder: Yes.

[1:04:35] Caleb Dicke: I love a method clean water.

[1:04:37] Jessica Rush: I love Mrs. Myers is great.

[1:04:38] Robyn Hurder: I love a Mrs. Myers as well. She's that's what we have. She's fabulous.

[1:04:42] Caleb Dicke: Yeah. And um, that's my blonde girl's moment for the moment. So yeah, if you chime in on our social media, what kind of soap you like, uh, you know, comment and and DM Caleb.

[1:04:55] Elliott Mattox: And maybe if you need help, if you want his thoughts on something, let him know. It could be his blonde girl moment next week.

[1:05:01] Jessica Rush: Yeah.

[1:05:02] Elliott Mattox: All right. Uh ladies, I um I am a big musical theater nerd, and I, for as long as I can remember, have collected musical theater t-shirts from when I go see shows. I have a very large collection, and this is my segment where I review them in a versus format and choose a winner. So it's time for merch madness.

[1:05:36] Robyn Hurder: I am oh my god. I'm loving all these twos though. Like I'm obsessed. You know, we love theme songs. Um so this this is a very special like six degrees of separation uh version of merch madness because um you all have some I think all of you have like shared a show almost. Like have done the same show, or a lot of you have done similar shows together or maybe a part at different times. Karen and I probably swapped.

[1:06:06] Jessica Rush: We've swapped twice.

[1:06:08] Robyn Hurder: I have talked about I have a six degrees version today. First up, we have a wedding singer.

[1:06:19] Elliott Mattox: Oh shit.

[1:06:20] Robyn Hurder: So wedding day and up is it. That's when I win it for Kara.

[1:06:25] Jessica Rush: Yeah.

[1:06:28] Robyn Hurder: This is the most I have things to say about this show. I want to I uh very uh I uh graciously replaced Kara when she decided you went off to do uh Peggy Sawyer, right?

[1:06:42] Jessica Rush: Yep.

[1:06:43] Robyn Hurder: Uh at 42nd Street at was it what was it? Walnut Street.

[1:06:46] Jessica Rush: Walnut Street, right?

[1:06:48] Robyn Hurder: Yep. And so this was my second Broadway show. And I was going and I was so excited because this this role covered Holly and people were like, You're gonna go on. You're gonna go on. Kara said, You're gonna go on. And I was like, okay. And uh it was I I I just did the last two months of the show, and my first night, my debut on uh uh with Wedding Singer, um they got their closing notice, which I think it was all expected, but um it was one uh still to this day one of the best um memories I have of doing a Broadway show. That that group of people was amazing, and I I I loved I I it was my first time replacing somewhere. I was like, I love this girl. I wish I could work with her. And we still haven't, right?

[1:07:38] Jessica Rush: Oh no, we haven't.

[1:07:39] Robyn Hurder: And then on the on the national tour, I replaced you weren't there anymore, but I did your track on the next you did orange, orange ball girl.

[1:07:39] Jessica Rush: Orange, orange.

[1:07:49] Robyn Hurder: Hilarious. Anyway, we love the wedding singer. We s we stan the wedding singer, as the children say.

[1:07:57] Jessica Rush: We stand.

[1:07:58] Robyn Hurder: I still don't know what that means, but uh we love. Um so this is my wedding singer shirt from now I can't remember. I either bought I either bought this when I saw the wedding singer or I went to theater circle and like got this like in the back room where the where I saw it, and I was like, okay, this is mine now. Thank you. Um, I love the wedding singer. I remember seeing being obsessed with it, obsessed. I love it. Um, one of my favorites, most like one of the best opening numbers of all time. It's it's one of the I I will stand strong with that show. It's one of the best ever. So good.

[1:08:38] Jessica Rush: So good.

[1:08:38] Robyn Hurder: I've never heard before you started.

[1:08:44] Elliott Mattox: Here we go.

[1:08:44] Robyn Hurder: Here we go.

[1:08:45] Jessica Rush: Jessica, you've never heard any of it.

[1:08:47] Jessica Rush: No, because here's what happened. Like, I was all about my musical theater show albums, my cast recordings, until I like got out of high school, and then I was working for the first couple years in my early 20s. I was still like singing along to parade and things like this. But then I got to a point where I stopped listening because I was doing so much, right? And then I would listen to things that I thought I might be right for, which I mean I could have I would think that I could have been a wedding singer. But what year was that, you guys?

[1:09:15] Robyn Hurder: 2006.

[1:09:18] Jessica Rush: Oh, 2006.

[1:09:19] Jessica Rush: I was living in LA then, and I was trying to be on film and TV, you guys.

[1:09:22] Robyn Hurder: Oh, she was in LA.

[1:09:28] Jessica Rush: She wasn't keeping up with the theater scene.

[1:09:30] Jessica Rush: I wasn't clipping up, I was in LA. Anyway, I have I love that shirt. I still sleep in it. I have it. This is so good. It's so good, such a like fun shirt, perfect for the show. Love the the logo, so good, bright colors, so fun. I wear this shirt a lot. I love it. It's you always get a smile when you wear this t shirt, you know. It's always gonna like bring someone like a smile because they either remember seeing it or they love the thing, they love watching the Tony perform it, all of that. It's so this high a good contender here.

[1:10:02] Robyn Hurder: Now, for our second shirt here, we have we know that one.

[1:10:08] Jessica Rush: Jersey boy shirt.

[1:10:10] Robyn Hurder: Which one is that one that you have?

[1:10:12] Jessica Rush: Though it's this is yeah, so this is this is not my first piece of Jersey Boys merchandise. The first piece I ever bought was a gray hoodie with like the distressed four here.

[1:10:24] Robyn Hurder: Oh yeah.

[1:10:24] Jessica Rush: And Jersey Boys. So that was the first one I have, but that was like in middle school, and I don't have that anymore. Um this was definitely a theater circle find uh in the back room, like on sale for ten dollars. Yeah, um uh but I love Jersey Boys. My uh my boyfriend is a Frankie, and um, and so this this is a very uh you know I hear I hear about Jersey Boys a lot.

[1:10:50] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, who's your boyfriend?

[1:10:52] Jessica Rush: Uh his name is Michael Fasano. He just did um he just did it on uh on NCL on the on the show.

[1:10:59] Robyn Hurder: Is he on is he on the big video we put all together?

[1:11:02] Jessica Rush: He is for him. You guys keep talking. I'll be right back. I have something for you.

[1:11:07] Robyn Hurder: Okay, he is indeed. So this is a very classic show shirt, I would say, like the good old black logo T, you know, black, white letters. Give give them the Jersey Boys. You know what this is. The full subtitle, by the way.

[1:11:22] Jessica Rush: Wait, the story of Frankie Valley and the Oh, okay.

[1:11:25] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, twins subtitle and Jess.

[1:11:30] Jessica Rush: Yes, so I have one that looks like oh, it probably is a lot lighter.

[1:11:35] Robyn Hurder: Oh, it's very similar.

[1:11:37] Jessica Rush: Yeah, it's changed.

[1:11:40] Robyn Hurder: Ride the snake, pound the veal.

[1:11:45] Jessica Rush: Insider joke.

[1:11:46] Robyn Hurder: Well, it was designed by Dominic Scaglione Jr., you guys, and if y'all know Skags, he is. But yes, it's his like what's his move that he does. But when you held it up the first time, I thought, does he have the shirt? And mind you, this I have it in La Jolla. I sleep, this is like a nightshirt, but yeah, this is very it's very similar.

[1:12:05] Jessica Rush: Yeah.

[1:12:06] Robyn Hurder: Yeah. But now this is clearly not a pro like officially sanctioned JD. Now can you demonstrate what riding the snake and pounding the wheel?

[1:12:11] Jessica Rush: Pounding the wheel.

[1:12:17] Robyn Hurder: Oh my god, do it.

[1:12:20] Jessica Rush: You can't see leg. Hold on. That's pounding the wheel. There's like a uh neo hip hop. I can't like a whole as I'm in my I told y'all I was in pajama bottom. Like, but it's like uh you know Skags is there's no one like Skags, I don't think on the planet. So but I was Michael Michael is cackling in the other room, so like that's really hitting a nerve.

[1:12:43] Robyn Hurder: I will say for someone who who never never uh got into the show. I I fell between the cracks with hell again. I was like Lorraine, but then a I feel like you're a Mary, like Mary.

[1:12:59] Jessica Rush: Y'all, this was like seven, eight years ago, right?

[1:12:59] Robyn Hurder: Right, right.

[1:13:03] Jessica Rush: Yeah. Now you're still Mary.

[1:13:06] Robyn Hurder: Like Mary's mom.

[1:13:07] Jessica Rush: I'm like old Mary. I'm like drunk Mary. I'm like what what's silver lines? Karen, like uh very than that. What is it? Wouldn't want a crampy style.

[1:13:15] Robyn Hurder: Wouldn't want a cramp.

[1:13:18] Jessica Rush: Yeah.

[1:13:22] Robyn Hurder: She's holding a glass too.

[1:13:24] Jessica Rush: It's perfect. She's holding it up. Y'all, there's nothing like seeing Mary. There's nothing like seeing Mary pregnant and smoking. Like when Kara was right before her maternity leave and she had to smoke and lean back. She had a giant her belly. She was like 22 weeks pregnant, and she was smoking. I was like, this is not I this feels not right. This is not right.

[1:13:46] Robyn Hurder: I just have to say, someone who is not who has never been, so it's one of my it's funny enough, it's uh the two shows that I've seen the most of because my loved ones are in it, it's Jersey Boys and Rock and Vegas. I've seen Jersey Boys probably 10 times.

[1:14:03] Jessica Rush: Well, yeah.

[1:14:04] Robyn Hurder: My best friends, my loves, Katie O'Toole is in it, and also when my friends go I go on. I've seen Kara do Matt Mary. I've I really just needed to see my best friend Katie O'Toole go on for Mary because I wanted to hear her say fuck. Swear. Jersey princess, and I love her to death. Listening to this right now. Um, but it is still to this day one of the smartest uh well-written, beautiful musicals of our time. It's perfect, really it is a perfect musical. I when those fucking horns walk out, when they walk out, yeah. Oh my god. It's all just so slick and sexy, and just like it is literally like the gods came in and they're like, here is your musical. And I I it's just a it's just the perfect show.

I remember seeing it the first time, and this was after like listening to the cast recording over and over again. Uh but seeing like the national tour, and like as soon as dawn happened and the switch of the lights to face back, I was I started sobbing. I was like, what in the world? And this was like, you know, eighth grade Elliot, just like crying at the Frankie Valley musical. It's like, what? Like, it's just so good.

[1:15:25] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, it was it was an awesome family to be a part of for. I mean, Kara and I were for so long. I mean, many years.

[1:15:31] Jessica Rush: Years and years and years and years.

[1:15:33] Robyn Hurder: Children. I had two children during the renovation.

[1:15:38] Jessica Rush: Yeah.

[1:15:39] Robyn Hurder: I saw Kara when she had she had a babe in her. I think it was the first babes.

[1:15:44] Jessica Rush: Probably the first one.

[1:15:45] Robyn Hurder: Yeah. I mean, Kara was the first woman to be pregnant at our show. She and I were the only mothers that, you know, until Katie right at the end, Katie and then Candy got pregnant. But Kara was the first one. I will never forget it. She did the half-hour call, and she was like, Your half-hour call is being said by a girl with a bun in the oven or something like that. And everyone, she had already told us, which I had figured it out, but that's fine. And she'd already told us uh the girls, so we knew, but you could hear all the men come running because there were so many dads there, too. We're such a small cast, and we love it's such it was really such a family. And like they came running down to stage management, you know, to hug her and congratulate her. And it was so special, and it was really awesome.

[1:16:31] Robyn Hurder: I love that. Yeah, well, I have to say, like, you know, I don't know if you all have been make say watching Making the Cut, but you know, a conversation can change everything. And I have to say, before we started talking and sharing stories, Wedding Singer was the clear winner of Merch Madness. But I have to say, everyone talking about Jersey Boys and their experiences has really moved me. And so the winner of this week's Merch Madness is my Jersey Boys t-shirt.

[1:16:59] Jessica Rush: Wow, I love it.

[1:17:02] All: Cheers, yeah, cheers.

[1:17:05] Elliott Mattox: Yeah, all right. Cheers. Kayla, we got a game for us.

[1:17:08] Caleb Dicke: Yeah, we're gonna wrap this up with some easy, fun questions. Okay, are you ready?

[1:17:13] All: Okay.

[1:17:14] Unknown speaker: Um, favorite appetizer.

[1:17:17] Unknown speaker: A charcuterie bag.

[1:17:20] Unknown speaker: Heard a lot of chips and guac.

[1:17:21] Unknown speaker: Well, I mean, like, where are we?

[1:17:23] Unknown speaker: Yeah, where are we?

[1:17:24] Unknown speaker: Are we a left in?

[1:17:25] Unknown speaker: Are we at Mexico Asian?

[1:17:27] Unknown speaker: Let's say pub.

[1:17:28] Unknown speaker: This is a pub.

[1:17:29] Unknown speaker: So we're talking like American pub.

[1:17:31] Unknown speaker: Oh, then like a mozzarella stick.

[1:17:34] Unknown speaker: Or a buffalo chicken.

[1:17:37] Unknown speaker: Buffaloing for me.

[1:17:39] Unknown speaker: Okay, um, yoga, berries, or Pilates?

[1:17:43] Unknown speaker: Neither.

[1:17:44] Unknown speaker: None of them.

[1:17:45] Unknown speaker: Nothing.

[1:17:45] Unknown speaker: Yoga.

[1:17:46] Unknown speaker: Yoga.

[1:17:46] Unknown speaker: Okay.

[1:17:47] Unknown speaker: Pilates, a Pilates, uh, like um, like uh SLT.

[1:17:51] Robyn Hurder: Pilates on a big I love SLT, but big spoon, the little spoon, and the inner thoughts.

[1:17:59] Jessica Rush: Nothing.

[1:18:00] Cara Cooper: Okay, um, best way to relax at the end of a day.

[1:18:03] Robyn Hurder: Why the bumbox?

[1:18:14] Jessica Rush: Yes.

[1:18:16] Cara Cooper: Boy.

[1:18:16] Robyn Hurder: Okay, your um first New York survival job.

[1:18:20] Jessica Rush: Did you have one?

[1:18:21] Cara Cooper: Oh, yes, I do.

[1:18:23] Robyn Hurder: Wait, I do, I do.

[1:18:26] Robyn Hurder: So my first serve, wash, so my first. I uh I I I I basically am like, okay, I'm moving to New York. I need a job. Um, I've gone to one restaurant in New York that I really, really like, and I'm gonna see if I can host this there. So I put on a lace tank top, like a boustier thing and a blazer. You got a boustier and a lace tank top in your closet. I do wanted to be BB new earth. And I walked don't you remember? And I was 20 years old, and I put it on, and I walked down 46th Street on restaurant row and I walked into Becco and I said, Hey, do you need a hostess? And they were like, Yeah, we do. And I'm like, great. And they were like, Can you start tomorrow? And I was like, Great. And that was my first job.

Fucking slut. And then I got it. I love that. It's still my home. I Billy Gallagher, the chef, he's been there for the entire time. He's still a dear love of mine. Whenever I go there, I will always go to the kitchen. I will always see him. I still know the waiters. I know the staff. It's like it's literally when I go there, it's like home. It's I love that that was my first because I had just eaten there before, and I just I was like, I'm I don't even think I ate there before I was 20. What the fuck am I talking about? It was Gecko. You're like, why not? I remember the tank top. It was like a spirit strap, and it was like I covered my boobies, but that was like a ribbed lace boustier, and then I wore a blazer over it and jeans, and I was like, Hi Idi, hostess, and I was 20.

And they were like, Yeah, and I started, and now I still walk in there, and people are like, Oh my god, Robin! And it's been 18 years so fun Robin, and it's on restaurant row and it's right there. Like, you can, I mean, it's yeah, it's all become I also love the chef remains the same because I'm I'm such a big cook. Like I love cooking so much, and I love that chef Billy Gallagher is still the chef of Becco, and it is still the staples. There's a reason why that is the at it is the heart of restaurant row on 46th Street on the south uh north side of the street, right in the middle, and it is amazing. Everybody needs to go to it. Delicious. If you guys have been to Becco, who are you? You gotta go.

You gotta go to the New York City. You gotta get the Barada. Always a barata, always a barata. And that and and you know, if you really want to go in, those pastas, the the the three unlimited, the scissors, everything just go on. So every time I go there between shows, there's always I forget what theater they're from, but I there's a there is a crew that goes there. Sure. Like between shows, crew guys, like it's their thing, and they sit at that table in the front window, like on the second floor. I see every time I go there, but I can't remember what theater theater they're from. Yeah, it must be nearby. Yeah, so interesting. I just because when we went one, you know, we started Eric and I've been a few times between shows, and we always see them and we know them, but I just can't remember which theater. I feel like the Nederlander, maybe, but I don't know, it could be wrong. It's far nearly okay. Moving on.

[1:21:48] Robyn Hurder: Okay, um, classic mother's day gift. The best is flowers, macaroni art, or breakfast and bed. Which one? Breakfast and bed, yeah. Flowers, a day at the spa. Can we choose? No, is there a spa card in there? Hold on, hold on, hold on. The judges will accept spa. Yeah, yeah, they will accept a day at the spa if the corona days are over of spa yes. We're talking corona. I'm not expecting anything, I'm just expecting. I'm just excited to to wake up and and put on a gown because I have nothing else to do but just get myself pretty and probably whore myself out on Instagram. Right. I love it. I love it. That's all we have. Yeah. All we have. Kara and I will be on the Broadway babysitters tomorrow doing a scavenger hunting.

Another Broadway mom. It's a very busy weekend for the moms. I can't, it's like wild. Robin's, I mean, we've all been doing this BCFA thing. I just think it's awesome. I want to say like shout out to Broadway Cares and just for the community in general for starting to really recognize the moms and celebrate. Thank you. Yeah. That has a lot to do with uh Broadway babysitters. Also, mama's talking loud. I mean, come on. I mean, it's like this is not uh this should not be a hush hush thing, like bitches have babies. And guess what? We're the strongest motherfuckers in this business. Like we I don't mean to say it that way. I'm just saying, like it can happen that you can have a baby and you can come back and still have a career.

You can do it all, even though us mothers feel like we always want to do better on all aspects of my life, but I think it's really amazing, and it's because of these platforms like mama's talking loud and everything that we're actually making it a thing. It's a thing now, guys. It's really like go back to Broadway. I mean, it's like you know, there was a time where you couldn't have kids and keep doing it, and people, you know, and we've even heard that said from guests like Tara Rubin and people who are still working today. It's not like this was way back in the 20s, you know what I mean? We're talking about like very recently, women had to make a choice, and Kara and I just feel so strongly about the fact that we are all doing it and now we've got so many of us Robin and Stephanie Black and Casey and Laura and Steely.

I mean there's so many women every 300 women in our Broadway baby mamas group you guys. I mean that's not just actors that's you know musicians and composers and crew and everyone and it's it's just it's just beautiful that you guys are bringing so much attention to the fact that it's just like mother again in all not just in the arts in all industries like mothers should not be shamed they should be fucking celebrated because we do all the things we're really strong. Hello we do all the things and we're still thriving and we're still progressing and we still can do it even though you know there's always a balance but it's um it's so important so I'm very I'm very grateful that you you guys have brought so you have worked so hard to bring attention to this new field which is mothers on on Broadway hashtag Broadway mom.

[1:25:21] Jessica Rush: Well thank you we love our Broadway moms and we cheers to you all thank you all so much for joining us today on the happy hour this was a real treat so much fun for having this was so funny for having us you mentioned you mentioned the the BCEFA uh event tomorrow but do you want to like give people like what are the what are the specs on that?

[1:25:46] Robyn Hurder: Yeah. Um it's hashtag Broadway does Mother's day. So if you look that up, um it's uh Broadway cares equity fights aids fundraiser for the COVID relief fund. And I know that like Robin is involved, and they've got like all the you know, all the our big name moms, you know, like Laura Bonanti and Celia Keenan Bulger, and like people are they're doing bits and sketches, and it's a variety show. And then um, and then the Broadway baby mamas collected videos and photos of some of the women in our community, and uh and they will be involved in the 11 o'clock number. Um there's an 11 o'clock number that is very timely and and very pretty. That's it. I think if you have hashtag Broadway Does Mother's Day. It's at it's actually at W Broadway Does Mothers Day.com. Right. If you want to find it. So check it out.

[1:26:41] Robyn Hurder: Hold the phone out. So this is the thing. It's like W Ross dot Broadway Does Mothersday.com, but then it's now Broadway.com slash Broadway Does Mother's Day. Because I just did this whole fucking interview with my son, and I made him go through it and I edited it, and then afterwards they're like, here's a new graphic, and it's like Broadway.com slash right, because now Paul Rontreck and Broadway.com are involved. So they're back. Thankful, but it's a lot of work. Either way, www.broadway does mother's day.com or Broadway.com slash Mother's Day. Model. That's that's tomorrow, Sunday, Mother's Day at 3 p.m. Eastern. Call your mother wearing a gown. You you can check all that. Should be in the gown. Call your mom, tell her thank you, and uh raise a glass to some a lot of other moms that are killing it out there.

[1:27:42] Elliott Mattox: Um, thank you all again so much for joining us. Uh, where can we find all of you on social media, Robin? Where can we find you?

[1:27:53] Robyn Hurder: I am an Instagram slut. It's all I have in my life. Instagram slut. I put everything out there because I just feel like this is all I have. Why not? Like we all eat come on. It's like I want to be Robyn Hurder on Instagram. I just can't get my same way. But you can find Kara and I both at Mama's Talking Loud on Instagram. And uh Jess is a rush on my Instagram is my personal. And our Twitter is Mama Talkin Pod. So you can find us there. And on Facebook. And you can find us everywhere. We're everywhere. Broadway baby mamas. So that's our other. We've got that handle, Broadway Baby Mamas. I'm at Cara Cooper 111. We're everywhere. You can find us. Switching between so many profiles. Y'all, it is a full-time job. Yeah, it's a full-time job. A real thing. What we've got. We have to unpack it and love it and only bring positivity and humor and laugh and love and inspiration. Like it's this is our lifeline to everybody else. So use it for the good.

[1:29:10] Jessica Rush: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. I just want to say this. Can I say this?

[1:29:15] Robyn Hurder: Yeah, of course.

[1:29:16] Jessica Rush: We're all just doing the best we can, right? All the moms is the response to literally anything. Whether you tell me you chugged a box of wine, took a six hour midday nap, set up Christmas decorations in May, robbed a bank, or gave yourself bangs. Everyone, we're doing the best we can. I love that meme that's on now. Yes. You know what I mean? Like grant yourself some grace. Yeah. And be well. Yes. We're all doing that. Everyone. We're all doing everything that we can. And anything that you're doing to find joy, spark joy, smile, laugh. Yep. Yep. Do that. Do that. Do all of that. You all certainly made us smile and laugh today. So thank you all so so much. And a special shout out to Brittany, who's been helping us back in the back.

Brittany Bay Hello. We all love. You can find our podcast at Equity One Podcast on Instagram and Facebook and at Equity One underscore on Twitter. Send us an email at equity one podcast at gmail.com and please rate and review us on iTunes.

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[1:30:32] Unknown speaker: Um, and uh tune in next time to uh Broadway Podcast Network Happy Hour.

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[1:30:39] Unknown speaker: Cheers, everyone.

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