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[0:00] Andrew: We've got a mission to find the best song that's ever been on Glee.

[0:09] Andrew: There's no rhyming reason to it, so don't get mad at me.

[0:16] Andrew: We got Andrew and Alison who on the show the Gleek of the Week who's the head on show.

[0:26] Andrew: Glacket by Glacket will rank everyone.

[0:30] Andrew: Just see if there's someone move closer to spot number one.

[0:35] Andrew: Gleek of the week, click, click, click of the week.

[0:41] Andrew: It's Gleek, click of the week.

[0:44] Andrew: Oh wowie Zawi Zowee.

[0:45] Andrew: We're back.

[0:46] Andrew: Um we're gonna we're gonna find the best song on Glee, even if it kills me.

[0:52] Andrew: But to um to help with that mission this week, I feel like this is a real this is a real like some of these like duos.

[1:01] Andrew: I'm like, hmm, who are like the best people to pair together?

[1:05] Andrew: I'm really particularly proud of this one.

[1:08] Andrew: Um returning Gleeks of the Week.

[1:12] Andrew: Um starting with Matt from The Choir Room.

[1:15] Andrew: Matt, how are you doing?

[1:17] Matt: Andrew, I'm so good. So excited for this pairing.

[1:18] Matt: You do a pretty good job with matchups.

[1:21] Matt: Uh, you know, one could say if you were a part of the creative team on Glee back in the day, if you could pair songs as well as you pair guests.

[1:28] Matt: Oh wow.

[1:29] Matt: Could have used your talents.

[1:30] Matt: Not to say that they did a bad job, but you could do a better job.

[1:32] Matt: I I I I could be in the studio.

[1:34] Matt: I could be in the studio.

[1:36] Matt: Um just making those making those matchups, making those duets happen.

[1:40] Andrew: Um, and then also second half of that duet um is um previous Gleek, you know her, you love her, Alison A La Mode.

[1:49] Andrew: Alison, how are you doing?

[1:50] Alison: I'm good.

[1:50] Alison: The um how to be a heartbreaker Stan Club.

[1:53] Andrew: Um okay, let's talk about it.

[1:56] Andrew: Make it happen.

[1:57] Andrew: Because Matt, obviously, you are like kind of like the pioneer, I would say, behind this subbreaker love.

[2:06] Alison: That much about it until well, first of all, I am like so gagged to be on with Matt.

[2:11] Alison: Like when you messaged me, and I was like, no way.

[2:13] Alison: Because the uh The Choir Room is the first Glee podcast I ever listened to.

[2:16] Alison: I didn't even know Glee podcasts were a thing.

[2:18] Alison: And literally it got me.

[2:19] Alison: Glee podcast royalty, Matt, yes.

[2:22] Alison: Like it was the beginning of my like Glee podcast holy glenity.

[2:25] Andrew: Well, like can I ask?

[2:27] Andrew: Can I ask?

[2:28] Andrew: Like, did you jump in like towards the beginning or like did you find it kind of towards the end?

[2:32] Alison: I let I wanted I because it was in like 2020, which is like a blur, but I know that I wherever you guys were at, at what point in 2020, I started from like the first episode, and then I have to like start from the beginning when it comes to podcasts.

[2:45] Alison: And then I just wrote it out through like all the watch alongs, and I was just like, oh my god, there's people that are like into Glee as much as I'm into Glee.

[2:52] Andrew: Like and yeah, Andrew, what year was Gleek of the Week officially was the 2022?

[2:57] Andrew: It was it was birthed in 2021.

[2:59] Alison: Okay.

[3:01] Alison: Yeah.

[3:02] Alison: If by any chance you guys started the same time that we did, if you would have also taken the route that we did of just like powering through and saying, you know what, we have nothing else to do.

[3:11] Alison: We're gonna record a Glee podcast every day.

[3:14] Matt: I think that would have been very uh I I mean, yes.

[3:18] Matt: I more power to you for like really committing and being like boom boom boom boom boom, uh committing to also guests on every single recording is a Yeah, we didn't do that.

[3:29] Andrew: Right, right.

[3:31] Andrew: Um wait, but then also, I mean, the how to break how to be a heartbreaker of it all.

[3:36] Andrew: I okay, so obviously you are Matt, you're such a stan of this song, and then Alison by proxy of listening to you, and also the song as well, um, is also the face of uh the how to be a heartbreaker.

[3:52] Alison: I've watched, listened, I've learned.

[3:56] Alison: Um, I've uh take some time for myself since that competition.

[4:00] Alison: There are very few competitions that I'm like, I look back and I'm like, I made the wrong call.

[4:05] Alison: I feel like that might be one of them.

[4:07] Matt: Wow.

[4:08] Matt: I mean, look, is it too late?

[4:10] Matt: Yes, it is, yeah.

[4:11] Matt: Does this mean anything at this point?

[4:13] Matt: No.

[4:13] Matt: But in life, to have more people in on the club and and and understanding the cinema of the performance, the video, and everything, that's a win.

[4:24] Alison: So because I was I uh Elias and I watched over the weekend, just like I very seldomly watched like Glee episodes in order.

[4:33] Alison: I think we started with like I do and then made it all the way to feud, which is like a three episode run, but it's still something.

[4:40] Alison: Um but no, we start with Diva.

[4:42] Alison: Diva to feud, and I watched the context of Shout, and I'm like, this is this is throwaway.

[4:49] Alison: And then the next episode, I got how to be a heartbreaker, and I'm like, wait a minute, they're making some points here.

[4:54] Alison: So I had friends that like don't even really watch Glee, but when I posted that, I was like on a podcast, they listened to that episode and they were like, you were right.

[5:02] Alison: And I was like, uh, well that's enough for me, honestly.

[5:05] Matt: The validation from your from actual like people in your life.

[5:09] Matt: And it was funny because when I was listening to that episode, when Alison was was standing up for how to be a heartbreaker, I was like, I love this girl.

[5:15] Matt: Like she's got it right.

[5:16] Matt: And then she goes, Oh, because I was listening to The Choir Room, and Matt was giving it such a good kitchen.

[5:20] Matt: I was like, well, even better.

[5:21] Matt: So you taught her one message to Alison, and I was young grass.

[5:25] Alison: Thank you for trying.

[5:26] Andrew: Yeah.

[5:27] Andrew: Um, okay, so are there any final words about how to be a heartbreaker, Glee Castro Mike Lee Cast that we would like to say at this at this time?

[5:35] Matt: I mean, I just feel like people feel such a detachment from it because there's no recognizable characters in other than like Rachel's doing like the background vocals, but it's just cinema, it's be it's camp, it's drama and RIP.

[5:51] Alison: Yeah, I mean, I it's definitely uh loses points in the general audience for the fact that it's Dean Geyer and not you know a main cast member that's you know if it was like if it was one of those Rachel and Blaine duets for some reason, if the two of them for some reason were singing in that context or whatever, we're we're looking at a much different world.

[6:09] Matt: But yeah, the the glorious week live in.

[6:11] Matt: I know.

[6:12] Matt: Oh gosh.

[6:13] Matt: Like the Rachel walking in front of the broken glass window.

[6:15] Matt: I'm like, oh, I get it.

[6:17] Matt: She had a broken heart.

[6:19] Matt: I get it.

[6:21] Matt: I like it.

[6:22] Andrew: Um, okay, enough about that song in particular.

[6:25] Andrew: Um, are there any competitions?

[6:27] Andrew: Alison, I understand that you have a list of competitions that have transpired.

[6:31] Alison: Oh my gosh.

[6:32] Alison: Um, that do not sit well with you.

[6:34] Alison: Well, not necessarily.

[6:35] Alison: I just like made notes like between like the last episode I was on and then like all the way forward.

[6:41] Alison: But I'm like, okay.

[6:44] Alison: Pretending versus next to me, which was your episode.

[6:49] Matt: Yes.

[6:50] Matt: We were both present for that.

[6:52] Alison: I I would like to stand up for pretending.

[6:55] Alison: I feel like it people say that it's lame or whatever, but I don't know.

[6:59] Alison: I feel like it wasn't it was on the nose, but not too on the nose, like with the lyrics.

[7:04] Alison: It like sounds like it could be a real song, and it's not like I don't know, hitting you over the head with like the kids pop of it all, kind of like light up the world and loser like me.

[7:13] Alison: Like it's one of my favorites.

[7:15] Matt: Yeah, not too much.

[7:19] Alison: I don't know.

[7:19] Alison: I the more I listen to you guys like stand up for light of the world, I'm like, okay, maybe my opinion's changing, but okay, well, it's gonna have the same effect that how to be a heartbreaker had on me.

[7:30] Alison: But yeah, I don't know, pretending and get it right.

[7:32] Alison: And then as long as you're there, another sleeper hit that I reach for, I stream those original songs.

[7:39] Alison: As long as you're there somehow snaked its way through to round two, I feel because it was against holding out for a hero in the Abraham episode of round one, and it won against holding out for a hero.

[7:57] Matt: I mean so that's actually I even though I literally just said I love that song, that's crazy.

[8:02] Matt: Did you guys vote when you were like keeping your eyes, were you were your eyes closed while watch holding out for a hero?

[8:08] Alison: Yeah, we just like threw, yeah.

[8:09] Alison: We just like closed our eyes and then like threw a dart and was like, I guess that's the winner.

[8:14] Matt: No, I was the I was the sole vote for holding out for a hero, Abraham and Alison Dodge.

[8:20] Matt: Um both voted in solidarity with with Sunshine, which I think that's I personally think that's sunshine's flop, which is hard to say.

[8:32] Alison: Uh of the options available, yeah.

[8:34] Alison: Um, but as far as pretending goes, I mean, I am maybe like maybe that's my how to be a heartbreaker, where like it's maybe one that I can look back on and say, maybe I regret not putting that one through.

[8:46] Alison: Because next to me, I'm sitting here saying, you know, it's such a whatever uh voting it through just because pretending for me, as I was saying in that episode, it was like for the longest time I didn't even know one word from it.

[8:46] Alison: I didn't even know, like, you know, if you asked me to sing a line I would not have gotten it now that time has gone on and I've sat with it more I have more of an appreciation for it but I think so many more Gleeks in the whole world of Gleekdom uh probably are in that same boat of like the earlier way that I sat with I feel like it gives a little Broadway like the lyrics were just so like when you think about the lyrics and how they pertain to Finchel it was like I don't know I just feel like it's more it resonated more with me than like the campy like we're all losers the oh nothing like the duet of the Finchel of it all where I mean how many of us go up for faithfully like it's not the same song but the the Finn and Rachel vocals are vocaling.

[9:39] Matt: Yeah I will say that like since that episode where we did like chat collectively chat on pretending um I I have heard from glisteners that are real pretenders that they are they love this song.

[9:55] Alison: Okay I'm not alone I'm not alone that song you said never stream it's for me it's an always stream um I listen to that song after we finish what we're doing we're talking about I'm hearing you through um wait what what other competitions did not sit right since your last appearance um okay I feel like the notes I took were just kind of like I don't even remember what I meant by this but in the um let me see I'll remember versus sway I will also Matt agree with you I was re watching that episode and I was like, you guys, we're not gonna sit here and like act like Mr.

[10:34] Shu is not an attractive man.

[10:36] Alison: Like memes and internet aside, that performance was good.

[10:40] Alison: I feel like if that was my teacher performing at my parents' wedding, I would be gagged.

[10:44] Matt: He did a good job.

[10:46] Andrew: Okay, you know what, Andrew?

[10:48] Andrew: Your face.

[10:48] Matt: I know I'm waiting for Matt to respond.

[10:50] Matt: I don't know.

[10:52] Matt: So she was talking about um, you know, some Matthew Morrison attractiveness, and my brain kind of went there for a second before I remembered we were talking about Sway.

[10:59] Alison: Just stay in that space for a little bit.

[11:01] Matt: I I probably should.

[11:02] Matt: Uh, because Sway is the one that I think we had that amazing artwork that was uh put together.

[11:07] Alison: Oh, by Alyssa, yes.

[11:08] Matt: Yes.

[11:08] Matt: When uh Sway had beat out, what was it, My Life Would Suck Without You maybe?

[11:13] Alison: Right.

[11:14] Matt: So do you do you want Sway to be like a dark horse of the Glacket, Alison?

[11:18] Alison: Oh no.

[11:19] Alison: Well, I just think that people get so caught up in what they read on the internet that they are like not being for real with themselves.

[11:27] Alison: And like, I don't know.

[11:28] Alison: I re- I really recently re-watched that episode and I was like, this is a good performance.

[11:33] Alison: It's a good rendition.

[11:34] Alison: It's very Michael Bublé.

[11:35] Matt: Yeah.

[11:36] Alison: But I think if we're gonna thirst over Matthew Morrison in musical numbers, there's a lot of other options as well.

[11:41] Alison: What comes to mind is touch a touch a touch me.

[11:43] Matt: Um we can go with that and go with that's a choice.

[11:47] Alison: I don't know.

[11:47] Alison: There's a you don't agree, Matt?

[11:51] Matt: I'm hearing you out.

[11:53] Alison: I know that was very I feel like if I separate that number, like when she first rips his shirt off, it was like, oh, but then at the end when he's just wearing the tie and he's shirtless and he's like, creature, that's no thank you.

[12:08] Matt: Because not only is he, you know, the shirt's ripped off and what like he's like, you know, like the camera is underneath him.

[12:16] Matt: It's it's very jarring that shot of him oh like over me.

[12:20] Alison: What no?

[12:21] Alison: But the shot of the shirt ripping off, agree.

[12:24] Alison: The shot of him hovering over my face, absolutely not.

[12:28] Matt: Sure.

[12:29] Matt: Yeah.

[12:30] Matt: Actually, Jacob Artist just posted a TikTok with that exactly.

[12:35] Alison: Yes, he did.

[12:36] Alison: Like I think it's amazed.

[12:38] Matt: That was his version of you wouldn't uh last an hour in the asylum.

[12:41] Alison: Jacob Artist is playing in my face.

[12:44] Matt: Jacob Artist, I will put him on blast right now.

[12:47] Matt: No, this is so rude.

[12:49] Matt: This is to put him on blast 12 minutes into a Glee podcast.

[12:52] Matt: But like I noticed that he started talking a little bit more about Glee on TikTok.

[12:58] Matt: And he obviously has the the this single before.

[13:03] Alison: Before?

[13:03] Matt: Wait, no, it's called after it's before.

[13:06] Alison: Is it before or is it after?

[13:07] Matt: Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[13:09] Matt: Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[13:10] Matt: Samuel Larson.

[13:11] Alison: Um, wait, is that true?

[13:14] Matt: Wait, I'm cutting all of this because I'm not sure.

[13:16] Alison: I know, like the series after that Samuel Larson was in.

[13:20] Matt: Oh yes.

[13:21] Matt: Okay, so that's so funny because his is after Jacob's is before, which actually is a bop.

[13:27] Matt: I will recommend everybody go listen to.

[13:30] Alison: And I I like emailed his people and I was like, hey, if he wants to talk about it, I know he's talking about Glee.

[13:34] Matt: And they were like, oh my god, yeah, let's pass this on to Jacob, and then radio silence.

[13:39] Alison: And I'm like, hmm, Jacob.

[13:43] Matt: You're always welcome.

[13:45] Matt: Um, but how do we even get there?

[13:47] Alison: I was really distracted by Jacob Artist thinking about him.

[13:50] Matt: You were talking about attractive men on Glee and one from Matthew Morrison's Jacob Artist.

[13:56] Alison: Oh, did I do that?

[13:58] Matt: Oh no.

[13:59] Matt: Oh yes, attractive men, and then I said Jacob Artist posted a TikTok with Matthew Morrison.

[14:04] Andrew: Oh, okay. Um see, once I start thinking about Jacob Artists, I'm like, I don't even know where I am anymore. Looking at my notes. What else? Oh, I am sorry. Ben is awful.

[14:15] Matt: Oh no. I'm taking a look at it. We joined the Zoom call today to hurt injuries. I don't know. What's going on? I don't. I was like, I'm looking at the notes and also apologies to Connor, glitter in the air, also awful.

[14:29] Alison: Um, that's exactly what it's like. Double homicide. I love Blow Me One Last Kiss. That's another note I have from your guys' episode. It's getting a lot of discourse lately.

[14:40] Matt: Yes. Um, I almost feel like I missed that episode. Can you remind me what it was against?

[14:44] Alison: Um Blow Me One Last Kiss.

[14:46] Matt: It was in the Damien McGinty episode of round one.

[14:48] Alison: Oh, that's why it was so long ago. No, but was that not in your episode that you were just on with Connor?

[14:54] Matt: No.

[14:54] Alison: Oh, maybe he's actually just talking about it.

[14:56] Matt: We just talked about it. It came up recently. And I'll be honest, it was on the episode I was on, and I'm sitting there like, I must have missed an episode recently because I don't remember this coming up in round two. So many things just come up to haunt me.

[15:10] Alison: Yeah. This note that I wrote, and I said, rapping on Glee, team Kevin. Kevin has the juice. As far as I'm concerned, Kevin is black.

[15:18] Matt: Um, and I feel like yeah, that's the discourse with like black Gleeks that I see like on TikTok. Like everyone, like as far as I'm concerned, Kevin can do whatever he wants.

[15:28] Alison: Stop. I saw Abby posted a TikTok like a week or two ago. It's like this is terrible. She posted a clip from the movie Precious based on the novel Push by Sapphire, where she's talking to Mariah Carey's character, and she's like, What are you black, Italian, Spanish?

[15:48] Matt: And it's like me talking about Artie.

[15:51] Alison: I'm like actually so funny. I need to find it and repost it because that's a kiss.

[15:58] Matt: Yes.

[15:59] Alison: Yeah, by the way.

[16:00] Matt: Yeah, go ahead.

[16:01] Alison: Oh, I'm sorry. A great episode with Abby and Alexa. Their matchups are like matchups that I dream of. Like getting the songs that they had to go through. I it was like uh 11 out of 10, no notes.

[16:12] Matt: Oh, because the I mean, well, they had like three rider songs.

[16:17] Alison: Is that what you want?

[16:18] Matt: Uh no, it's an only shit.

[16:20] Alison: Uh yes.

[16:22] Matt: Oh, I'm looking at it now. Uh a bitch is back dress you up. Uh like incredible to get to sit through that on a live, you know, Gleek of the Week recording.

[16:30] Alison: Uh Teenage Dream Acoustic. Um, I was literally just talking about on my last episode, how that is the superior version, and they got to send that one through, and they got Gloria.

[16:39] Matt: I'm like, three hits. Heavy hitters. Good for them.

[16:41] Alison: Yeah.

[16:43] Matt: Was there like a and like now I'm trying to remember because those were the three winners, and then like it was Jukebox Hero, you're the one that I won, and what was the third?

[16:53] Alison: Oh, boys.

[16:54] Matt: Oh, and see, that was tough to see her go. I mean, I really I stream.

[17:00] Alison: Oh, I stream.

[17:00] Matt: I just listened to it, but I get it.

[17:03] Alison: Yeah, yeah.

[17:04] Matt: I get it though, because you can't send bitches back home anytime soon.

[17:08] Alison: So yeah.

[17:10] Matt: The bitch keeps on coming back.

[17:12] Alison: Um, Alison, what what else do you have any further notes that you would like to um I have like general notes.

[17:18] Matt: So I put, let me see, where did it go? I put Glee podcasts are like an MLM because I started listening to The Choir Room, which led me to I want to say Recovering Gleek, and then after that, they that's how I found Gleek of the Week.

[17:33] Matt: And I'm like, it's just you're continuing to, you know.

[17:36] Alison: Wait, what I don't even I okay, so I I see MLM. What does MLM mean?

[17:41] Matt: Oh, like the multi-level marketing, like Lulu, not Lululemon.

[17:45] Alison: Is it Lu?

[17:46] Matt: No.

[17:46] Alison: Uh LulaRowe.

[17:48] Matt: Like, you know, ML. Like they're kind of like hashtag girl, like you girl boss, and you like have to recruit like pyramid schemes.

[17:54] Alison: Yeah.

[17:54] Matt: Oh, okay. So this is a pyramid scheme.

[17:58] Alison: No, this is exactly what it is.

[17:59] Matt: Yeah.

[17:59] Alison: So that's what Glee podcasts are. They're MLMs. And if anything, it's that.

[18:04] Matt: Yeah. Incredible.

[18:07] Alison: Um, Matt, floor is yours if you would like to air out any dirty laundry.

[18:14] Matt: Um, I don't necessarily have dirty laundry, but I do have, and I told you so. Do you have any idea what this is?

[18:20] Alison: Okay, wait, and I told you so.

[18:21] Matt: Oh my god, you like sent you sent not quite that.

[18:26] Alison: Oh, okay. Sorry, I don't know if you sent them you sent a message where you were like I I I have something to talk about, and then you and I was like, Can I have a hint?

[18:34] Matt: And then you listed three episodes, and I was like, Oh, got it. I already know.

[18:38] Alison: So pause on that because we'll come back to that.

[18:40] Matt: We'll come back to that. As long as the glory is still mine.

[18:44] Alison: But um, no, the I told you so is the I made a call in the last episode. We talked a lot of quarterback, and I said, I don't see Fire and Rain making it.

[18:53] Matt: Um you said uh hold on right, you know, don't you know, easy there.

[18:57] Alison: Um you were a stan, and I said, Oh, good. Like, I actually I'm happy to hear that. Like Fire and Rain and get it law, so okay, so Fire and Rain versus Like a Virgin, I think is a contested competition, but as proved by Pat and Charlie, that isn't a very easy layup for Like a Virgin, but that would have been an easy win for Fire and Rain for you, Matt.

[19:26] Matt: I think so.

[19:27] Alison: Um, Like a Virgin, the you know, appeal to me beyond of just like you know the Madonna episode of it all.

[19:34] Matt: Um something magical for me about hearing those first Santana vocals, you know, in a big way.

[19:40] Alison: So like that holds a special place in my heart.

[19:42] Matt: But I feel the same way about Fire and Rain that you do.

[19:45] Alison: So if that was uh this episode, it would have gone through.

[19:49] Matt: Yeah I don't know, Alison. Are you are you uh I Fire and Rain?

[19:54] Alison: I do like Fire and Rain because I just love that song in general.

[19:59] Matt: I may have voted for Like a Virgin, just because like I I don't know.

[20:04] Alison: So I can get it, yeah.

[20:05] Matt: It yeah Like a Virgin is also uh a big fan favorite.

[20:12] Alison: It's just not Fire and Rain.

[20:14] Matt: Like a Virgin also that um in the Glee Project, uh season one.

[20:18] Alison: Is that when uh Lindsay kisses Cameron? Or is that a different challenge?

[20:23] Matt: Because that's when they were all paired.

[20:26] Alison: That's maybe it's cold outside.

[20:27] Matt: Oh, okay.

[20:28] Alison: Well, I just I always picture like whoever was really is that season two when they're like baking and like throwing food at each other for the Glee Project.

[20:37] Matt: No, that's that's Teenage Dream.

[20:40] Alison: Is it?

[20:41] Matt: Oh my god. Did they but in the same way that they did Like a Virgin?

[20:48] Alison: Yeah, I think why do I feel like Like a Virgin was maybe like a homework assignment at the beginning of the episode?

[20:53] Matt: But I just mean like the inner the way they like intercut Teenage Dream on the Glee Project is the same way that they filmed Like a Virgin, where like it's all different couples and they're doing the same thing, and then it cuts to another couple doing that exact same thing.

[21:05] Alison: Glee Project really just being heavy hitting with these Glee references, yeah.

[21:10] Matt: Yeah.

[21:11] Alison: I think so.

[21:12] Matt: Oh my god. Now I have to just go along with the year.

[21:14] Alison: I'm I feel like when you watched Glee Project season one, that was so long ago. Because now we're in season two on the Patreon.

[21:20] Matt: Shout out to the Patreon.

[21:21] Alison: Shout out to the Patreon, Patreon.com slash Gleek Book Pod.

[21:24] Matt: Um Yeah, wait. I I had something to say.

[21:29] Alison: Oh, quarterback songs.

[21:31] Matt: Now, after that competition, I don't know why it like dawned on me that I'm like, I feel as though Seasons of Love is going to be the sole quarterback song seeing round three.

[21:43] Alison: Because now I because now we only have If I Die Young and I'll Stand By You, Mercedes version left.

[21:49] Matt: And I'm like, I don't know if they can make it through round two, personally.

[21:55] Alison: Fair enough.

[21:56] Matt: And I will use that to bounce on to another point where I will say careful with the Merzolos.

[22:02] Alison: Let's not send too many of them home.

[22:04] Matt: Please.

[22:04] Alison: Mercolos are doing well.

[22:06] Matt: As proved by that episode, I Will Always Love You is the first Marcello to come up in round two that has been sent uh sent away.

[22:14] Alison: It would be one sent away too many.

[22:16] Matt: Um, but uh fair.

[22:17] Alison: I don't know, I just okay, so full caveat, I would have also voted for Time Warp.

[22:23] Matt: Um but I'm just saying let's all be careful.

[22:26] Alison: Let's all be on our uh, you know, let's all be very aware that uh Mersolos are not something that we should overlook in the way that uh Glee itself overlooked for you know as long as it did.

[22:37] Matt: I want to talk as a group about unpacking I Will Always Love You because I kind of feel insane about my opinions about it, and I want to know if I have allies or thoughts on the matter of it.

[22:52] Alison: Just being like, I feel like with a lot of Mersolos, she's doing something interesting. I'm thinking of Sweet Transvestite. I'm thinking of Disco Inferno. I'm thinking of like Try a Little Tenderness.

[23:03] Matt: Whereas like I Will Always Love You seems kind of like copy paste of Whitney or exactly right. I'm like, I don't think this is doing it's not moving the needle for me.

[23:17] Alison: What do you think, Matt?

[23:18] Matt: No, that is that is exactly how I feel, especially because like I feel like I Will Always Love You is just one of those songs that you like grow up knowing.

[23:25] Alison: And then, like you said, like they have her do these like arrangements that are so cool with all these other songs, and then exactly what you said, like it sounds exactly the same as Whitney.

[23:36] Matt: I mean, yeah, I which is impressive in its own for the record.

[23:41] Alison: Yes, she does have the best voice of all time.

[23:43] Matt: Yeah.

[23:44] Alison: One thing I don't like about that number, and just like take it for granted. It's like, oh, she sounds like Whitney. They bring it up in one of the like, and that's what you really miss.

[23:53] Matt: And they're like, oh, and then Mercedes saying to Sam with this really awesome wig. And I'm like, that seems coded.

[23:59] Alison: Right.

[24:00] Matt: Well, I do think I Will Always Love You does get kind of bonus points for the fact that it is referenced seasons later.

[24:07] Alison: If a Glee song is referenced after the episode that it's performed in, then I'm like, ooh, this is standing that has a time, even in universe.

[24:15] Matt: You know what I mean? And that was performed coincidentally the week she died, right?

[24:20] Alison: And then I remember when it aired live, they like put, did they put like something in the beginning, like, or maybe someone tweeted, like, just a heads up. We were already doing the song, like, we're not doing it because but she did it justice.

[24:31] Matt: So they didn't they didn't film it two days before broadcast, yeah.

[24:36] Alison: Yeah.

[24:37] Matt: Um I don't know. I Will Always Love You deserves to be left behind because of the stuff.

[24:44] Alison: Look, and there's so many other better options.

[24:46] Matt: Now I'm afraid to ask this because I don't know the answer, and I'll be upset if the answer is not what I want it to be. Is Colorblind still here?

[24:54] Alison: Colorblind was eliminated.

[24:56] Matt: And I like Colorblind.

[24:58] Alison: I do.

[24:59] Matt: But it was eliminated.

[25:00] Alison: No.

[25:01] Matt: No.

[25:02] Alison: Good riddance to her.

[25:04] Matt: Oh wow.

[25:05] Alison: Colorblind was eliminated to um It's All Coming Back to Me Now.

[25:08] Matt: So okay.

[25:09] Alison: Well, okay.

[25:10] Matt: Well, so here's one thing.

[25:11] Alison: Alice said, I'm glad we at least have one song that we will always be bonded over if we disagree on every other song.

[25:16] Matt: We'll always have uh HTB, yes.

[25:19] Alison: We'll always have Paris, yeah.

[25:21] Matt: But uh Colorblind is my number one Rosolo.

[25:25] Alison: I just feel like they warped it to this really awful storyline.

[25:31] Matt: And stupid.

[25:32] Alison: Yeah, and I just can't separate the case because that was supposed to be like was that already her single, and then they put it in the show, or did she see Riley song?

[25:42] Matt: And like it's a great song to stream, but then the way that they're like, oh, let's promote your single and put it into this convoluted storyline about how she's in love with a white man.

[25:51] Alison: I just don't like what her song, and it doesn't make sense.

[25:56] Matt: It doesn't even make sense in the storyline.

[25:57] Alison: It's like, wait, you're you're saying one thing and then you're singing another. What's going on?

[26:03] Matt: Because Andrew, that was uh Here Comes the Sun was a factor in that as well.

[26:08] Alison: Of like, if we're talking storyline, maybe we're talking a different conversation, but I'm just looking at the song.

[26:13] Matt: I think you can song.

[26:16] Alison: You can never put me in a box like that.

[26:19] Matt: I need I need to I need to consider all the whole story.

[26:22] Alison: Either I don't know. It's like it it really is competition by competition where I'm like, I am just singularly looking at this one performance, or I'm considering the entire Demi Lovato my phobia of it all.

[26:34] Matt: Yeah.

[26:35] Alison: Yeah.

[26:35] Matt: So enough.

[26:37] Alison: Um okay. My other uh uh note is just an apology uh for anybody who was upset by the push.

[26:44] Matt: Uh speaking of Here Comes the Sun to then send packing Express Yourself.

[26:49] Alison: Uh the Glistener group chat was created soon after that episode, and one of the first comments of uh of reaction to an episode was uh a comment about uh being sad Express Yourself was gone that had a lot of support behind it.

[27:03] Matt: Um I'm sorry.

[27:05] Alison: Um I still need to stand in my truth, but I know firsthand, uh as we all do listening, uh, what it's like to lose one of your favorites, and it's just never fun.

[27:14] Matt: Can you speak more on the fact of like okay, you you were responsible for a competition that did not go in the in in in the way that the glisteners would have liked.

[27:24] Alison: Um, because this is a you know, a very I really like doing this, but that part sometimes I'm like I don't know how to live with the city.

[27:33] Matt: I haven't slept or eaten since that day.

[27:35] Alison: Um yeah, no, I haven't um I haven't had any water, um, I haven't bathed.

[27:41] Matt: It's been rough.

[27:42] Alison: I've been trying to get myself back on track.

[27:45] Matt: Um I will. We'll get through, you know, this podcast will will help with that.

[27:50] Alison: But it no, in okay, in all seriousness, it is I feel bad. I I know what it's like. I know what it's like to be listening and like what am I gonna like be mad at Andrew for not voting for How to Be a Heartbreaker?

[28:00] Matt: No, but I'm upset, it's gone.

[28:02] Andrew: It's so funny. Because like I got like a comment the other day. Um that said, like, it yeah, I mean, like, it get these comments sort of like can every week. They find whatever every reason to be upset, which is fine. I like that you're this passionate. I think it's fun. But like there was like one comment that was like, you should you should go to jail for um the hate of I will always love you. And then I was like, in my head, I immediately was like, you know that video of the woman that like um uh goes through the turnstile in the subway and she's like, What are you gonna do? Arrest me? What are you gonna do? Andrew's about to show up to like the local police station. Here I am, officers. Here I am. I voted for time warp. You know, if you did say that to them, they might actually take you into custody for further questioning.

[28:48] Matt: Yeah. Um, not about time warp, but just in general. Um, anyway. So, yeah, no, it's not a great feeling. Uh you know, it's funny because you've said uh or many have said, well, if you don't like it, create your own glacket. Um for who? For me to look at and say, Oh, the winner is cough syrup. Like, who's that fun? No, do it publicly. I want to see it. I want you to do it. It sounds like a threat, but I'm like, do it after you're done. Um I don't know. Any any any further notes, Matt?

[29:24] Matt: Um, not no unless you want to get into my topic.

[29:26] Andrew: Oh, yes, let's let's cover the topic.

[29:28] Matt: Okay, so you both uh did did we get what the theme was being. Okay, so I love riddles like that. We love riddles. So uh I was uh telling Andrew and Alison that uh I had a topic to bring to the table. It's something that's been uh on my mind in my world lately. Um, and I didn't want to give too much away, but then Andrew asked for a hint, so I gave him a hint and I said S2E8, S4 E14, S6E8, and then I fact-checked afterward to see if that was all correct, and it was.

[30:02] Andrew: That's crazy that you were able to do that like off the top of your head.

[30:04] Matt: Hop of dome. It's uh sickness.

[30:06] Andrew: Um you're in good company though.

[30:11] Matt: Yes. Yes.

[30:12] Andrew: Weddings on the mind.

[30:13] Matt: Um, I am planning mine, uh, which is uh wild.

[30:16] Andrew: Well thank god.

[30:17] Matt: But uh so oh thank you. Um not it's not, you know, this year, uh likely next year, but besides the point, um, there will be glee at the wedding. Like, no doubt. It's always been in my mind. Uh there will be in some form, uh, who's to say how much, how little, we'll get there. But as um, you know, I'm in the early stages of like looking everything over, and one of the biggest factors to me in my wedding day is the music that plays, and again, glee will be a part of it in some capacity. So as I've scrolled through my you know music in the past couple of weeks, um, you know, I've I've like done some favoriting to like put these songs off to the side, but I wanted to ask the two of you uh if you've ever thought about this kind of topic before, or just in general, what songs from the hit fox show Glee you think realistically would make sense to play at a Gleek wedding.

[31:07] Alison: Oh god. That is such a good um how to be a heartbreaker.

[31:12] Matt: Right, right, right. I think that's very apt. Yeah. Lots of songs have been eliminated for that reason of like, oh, I love this, but like, okay, no, Cough's Europe is not playing at my wedding. Like, that's right, right.

[31:23] Matt: But you have an obvious picture. While you guys think about it, I'll let me think you have your obvious picks of those those episodes have had, you know, there's the obvious ones, the Bruno Mars Marry You that played at the Fert wedding. Um, you have songs that are maybe less exciting, but like if you're looking for glee wedding vibes, that you have the we've got tonight, you can try some hey ya on your dance floor and see how that goes.

[31:45] Alison: So I'm so excited. Um, but are those like the best picks for you know the general crowd that may not all be clieks?

[31:52] Matt: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna put uh the brakes on Heia and I'm so excited specifically. I think those two songs are like those are like kind of Heia specifically is like what a I mean just like a crowd pleaser at any event that like I I would be a little bit like even as a gliek, I would be like, mm-hmm I don't I I kind of want the outcast. I don't I don't want this.

[32:17] Alison: I don't know. I mean there's also songs version of the cards.

[32:20] Matt: Yeah, let's like outcast version by glee. I love the glee version of I'm not gonna give you all of my picks uh because that feels like spoilers. Uh clieks go to Matt's wedding and see for yourself. Um that feels like spoilers. But um, like for example, uh I've flagged up a thousand years, and I'm like, hmm. But if I'm gonna pull this song, am I gonna take the Jake and Marley version, or am I gonna take the actual version, Christina Perry's version, you know, her original, or am I going to take, you know, it uh uh a YouTube cover that there's a lot of like slowed down wedding type versions of some of these songs?

[32:55] Alison: Sure.

[32:56] Matt: So, like, just for example, like that could be a song that could be in contention, but it probably won't be Jake and Marley.

[33:02] Alison: Right, right.

[33:04] Matt: That is a good cover though. Maybe I should have given you guys more time to think about it.

[33:07] Alison: No, this is good. You're getting like you're getting like the fresh ideas.

[33:12] Matt: Um, but like, I don't know, like Songbird and Landslide were the first ones that like kind of like come to mind, but those are kind of like both sad. Don't want too sad.

[33:22] Alison: Right.

[33:23] Matt: So I'm like, I I don't I don't know what to do with that.

[33:25] Alison: Dancing Queen.

[33:27] Matt: Dancing Queen. See, I would like addition.

[33:30] Alison: Wouldn't would also like the glee version, yes.

[33:32] Matt: Yeah. You know, you're you're looking for a variety of things when you're looking for wedding songs I've learned. You're looking for your slow songs, your you can, you know, your dance floor songs, um, and a lot of glee group numbers are in consideration when I talk about dance floor songs. Um, so it's like what's gonna get I mean look, one one that I eliminated recently that I uh is one we already talked about in this episode. I would love to have light up the world play at my wedding, unironically. Unironically. But that's not gonna hit for anybody but literally me.

[34:03] Alison: So wait, is your fiance also a gleek?

[34:05] Matt: Yes.

[34:06] Alison: Okay. So it would hit for him, or no, he also just doesn't like that song.

[34:10] Matt: If I played that song t today, I I think he would say, is this this is glee? Yeah.

[34:15] Alison: Oh, okay.

[34:16] Matt: Gleek in the sense of like has watched the whole show, has rewatched it with me. Um, but light up the world is like the next level. Gleek asterisks.

[34:24] Alison: Yeah.

[34:25] Matt: Yeah. Um god. Wait, Alison, what are you thinking?

[34:29] Alison: I'm like, well, I'm I'm looking at a list. Um and taking into consideration like you you're right. The group numbers are definitely good, like, group numbers for a wedding. So like I like the glee version of anything could happen.

[34:43] Matt: And see, I like that.

[34:45] Alison: Yeah, that's a good upbeat one, not too slow. It's a little slow, but not too slow. Um blow me one last kiss. Um, that's a good one too. That's upbeat, not necessarily a group number. Hmm.

[34:59] Matt: Oh my gosh. Not looking. I'm sc I'm scrolling. There's a lot of picks out there. And you know what I'm also curious as I bring the topic up is for any gleaks out there that did have glee related uh, you know, music at their wedding, I just if you uh care to share, um, whether you like put it in the the you know the the group chat or uh find a way to just reach out to me individually. I want to know what you played and how it hit. I brought Don't stop me now, playing versus the first time. I brought up a few weeks ago that like while I was in Hawaii with my mom and sister that I was like going through, like they weren't even like fully aware that they were listening to a glee playlist of just like all of like Amber Riley solos. I will always love you, not included. I'm sorry if I'm putting salt in the wound. Um but like uh hate on me, um, gosh, why am I blank like um Disco Inferno? That was like though it like they they hit regardless of Gleek status, you know.

[35:57] Matt: So I would say I would say Amber Riley heavy, at least for me. See if I can find one that's on the list and and gauge opinions. Um Artie's songs that are not slow are like for once in my life is is a good one.

[36:14] Alison: We don't talk about that one, yeah.

[36:16] Matt: And I'm gonna say this is a really crazy pick. Maybe you'll agree, maybe you won't. Yeah, glee cast version by Glee Cast.

[36:24] Alison: I was just listening to that today.

[36:25] Matt: I would prefer version. Really?

[36:28] Alison: Yeah.

[36:29] Matt: At my wedding, I'd be like this is hilarious.

[36:33] Alison: Okay.

[36:34] Matt: Um I am so attached to music from that time period in the first place. So like I think I would just want the Usher version of it because it just brings me back to you know, us growing up in those days. Um like for that particular song, I I might go Usher, but I I can I can get the vibe. Um so songs that are uh another song in consideration. I mean, two two let me let me get to you with you guys. One, I have Don't You Want Me.

[37:01] Alison: Yeah.

[37:02] Matt: Fun. Yes. I mean they they had a a really fun party on the show and that's when it was sang there. So like you know, trying to throw a fun party here. Art imitating life, yeah.

[37:12] Alison: Uh yeah.

[37:13] Matt: And I guess what do you guys think of is it too on the nose to do Gleecast version of Mary You in some way.

[37:21] Alison: No, I think that is like it's obvious. I wasn't even gonna bring it up because I'm like duh.

[37:25] Matt: Yeah. It's it's just a matter of like again is it is it too on the nose but I think I think it makes sense.

[37:32] Alison: Yeah.

[37:32] Matt: I think that's I think it's more fun. Yeah. All the different voices. I mean even if you want to go if you want to go for the Bruno Mars BOGO uh if you want to do the Just the Way You Are season two version.

[37:44] Alison: I'd like the glee version.

[37:45] Matt: I would I I don't think that you would have like too many like um raised eyebrows if you played the glee version of just the way you are.

[37:53] Alison: Okay.

[37:54] Matt: Um and also you know gay wedding uh looking at you know things that Kurt and Blaine had between the two of them um no come what may will not be uh in consideration but you know just looking at some of those as well so I thought when you were gonna when you were bringing up gay wedding I thought you were gonna be like how about the same love?

[38:11] Alison: How do we feel about that?

[38:12] Matt: Oh I hadn't thought about that one Andrew Huh that's a real crowd please that gets everybody out on the dance floor.

[38:20] Alison: Yeah.

[38:20] Matt: When I was in the third grade but you know what I really do like um the Mary Lambert like just like the solo version of um she keeps me warm. Love that that's a good one. I know that it's a this is a this is a gay male wedding, but and it kind of like defeats the point of her song. But I I like it. Pronouns are not not in consideration when you know you're thinking of what's going to play again at a wedding where I will be marrying my male fiance. Um because there's songs like uh Glee Cast version of mine where I'm like, that is such a beautiful song. But a lot of it is you made a rebel of a careless man's careful daughter. You can't really switch that. Yeah. And I and if especially if I was to use the Gleecast version, it just it's not gonna work perfectly.

But it's also okay, there's a lot of other options. So it's just something that I've been, you know, working through these days, trying to figure it out. And you know, again, if anybody has any uh thoughts, I think it's very fun. It's a very fun assignment for the coolest at home. Maybe episode this week's put it on the whiteboard, yeah.

[39:27] Andrew: But what is he? I think he described this idea.

[39:30] Matt: I do.

[39:32] Andrew: No, yeah, because I just watched this episode and like Brittany, Brittany says, like, is it gonna be Brittany again? I love it.

[39:37] Matt: Um okay, we're we're gonna do you mind glacketing. I think we need to pick one of these six songs uh to be in consideration, by the way.

[39:46] Alison: Oh, really? That's a that's fun.

[39:48] Matt: Okay. Yeah, well um evaluate each one based on that scale.

[39:52] Andrew: Great, great. What if we uh it's all like duds and it's like a you're forced to I didn't say it. I have to.

[39:56] Matt: Uh do we have any final words before anything like particular that we're looking for?

[40:04] Alison: Uh, season six. I am a season six apologist in my core. I love season six. I'd be curious to see how much season six we actually have left. I did look into it. It's only a few, and a few, and luckily, my favorite season six song is still in contention, I think. I didn't realize there were so many Rocky Horror uh songs left, so I feel like you know, by process of elimination, we're guaranteed to get one.

[40:29] Andrew: You would think so. And now you just said it, and now you're not gonna get it.

[40:32] Matt: Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, I'm pretty sure my season six song has not been pulled yet, so I'm excited.

[40:39] Andrew: Wait, are we are we speaking it aloud, or do we want to just hold it toward channels?

[40:45] Matt: I'm gonna hold it and then wait, but if if if it doesn't get pulled, are we gonna forget later? Because I want to know what song it is.

[40:49] Andrew: Okay, my favorite season six song is Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow Had Over 5.

[40:53] Alison: Yes, yes, yes. That's the correct answer.

[40:55] Matt: Okay, okay, okay. Oh, and now now that you said it out loud, now we're not gonna get it.

[40:59] Andrew: I know.

[41:02] Matt: Um I also love being like your hints, your leading. I love it. I so feel free.

[41:11] Andrew: So it is a season two, episode two.

[41:17] Matt: Oh, that's right.

[41:21] Alison: A Britney Brittany.

[41:23] Matt: Yes. And we're gonna we're gonna have things to talk about.

[41:27] Andrew: Here we go.

[41:32] Matt: Okay, the baby.

[41:37] Andrew: Okay, the baby.

[41:39] Matt: So glad I got this song.

[41:42] Andrew: Okay, the baby.

[41:49] Matt: Something wasn't right here.

[41:52] Andrew: Oh, baby beta, I shut it let you go.

[41:59] Matt: And now you're out of side.

[42:02] Andrew: Show me how you want it to be.

[42:30] ♪ Musical number: "Baby One More Time" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[43:33] Andrew: Who wants to start discourse? Alison, you said that you were very excited about this side.

[43:37] Alison: I just feel like when I think of this song, that woman's abs are so distracting. I've carried it with me since I watched the episode live. I just can't stop staring at that woman's abs, and then she just comes right to the camera.

[43:52] Matt: Yeah.

[43:52] Alison: Like, they're like so good, it's almost like concerning. And I'm like, ooh. Also, is this the most Rachel has danced in a number? Is it the most ever?

[44:03] Matt: It's like ever.

[44:04] Alison: That's possible. That is the most choreography I've ever seen that woman do. Because what even comes to mind aside from that?

[44:10] Matt: She's never done choreography in her life, and they get on Mercedes.

[44:13] Alison: But hello, Miss Parkinbark herself.

[44:15] Matt: Right.

[44:15] Alison: I'm thinking of like season four. Like all that jazz that she—I mean, she's just running around.

[44:22] Matt: Them picking her up on the scaffolding?

[44:25] Alison: See?

[44:28] Matt: Yeah.

[44:28] Alison: Wait, I'm thinking of like, um, when we went to go see Lea Michele at Carnegie Hall, that like she was talking about her entire career and like how, um, like her parents growing up were always like, "Lea, you know, you're a good singer, but you're an even better dancer." And I like let out the biggest laugh.

[44:50] Matt: Like, I don't even think that it was like intended for a joke, but like I let out this like the most like inopportune time like laugh, and I was like, this is hilarious.

[45:00] Alison: Um, Lea Michele, dancer reader.

[45:04] Matt: Dancer first. Um, yeah, this might actually be the most dancing she does.

[45:09] Alison: Yeah, honestly, it feels like it. I mean, like, you know, what do you say for like most Rachel—uh, sorry, most Rolos? Like the vocals are there. Um, the dancing just takes you so out of it because it's like, who is this person? Who is this character? This is not Rachel Berry. I mean, very obviously this is in her dream, you know, her dream sequence type deal. She's under, um, anesthesia from Dr. Carl. Uh, so that's probably why she's dancing so much, because maybe she's dreaming of a world where that is more her thing.

[45:39] Matt: Well, it's not usually. She's dancing because like this is just the music video where she's dancing. It's like mimicking the entire music video.

[45:47] Alison: Like shot for shot, all of the like innocent, like looking up at the camera, like it's all—I feel like she just took that like very literally, including like the dancing, including like the innocent looking away from the camera.

[45:58] Matt: And it doesn't even seem like Rachel Berry at all. These types of episodes are so funny to me where, um, it's like so—the episode had nothing to do with Rachel. There are episodes throughout the series, uh, Glee, where Rachel is not the star of the episode. It's rare, but it happens. And this was obviously one of them. They said, "Okay, we have this character, Brittany S. Pierce, Britney Spears, let's make it happen." And magic did happen.

[46:20] Alison: Um, and then they even brought Britney Spears into film in this episode. And she—tell me if I'm wrong—did not film with Rachel at all, right?

[46:29] Matt: Did she have any scene with her?

[46:31] Alison: I mean, the one scene that stands out, of course, is with, uh, Tina and Artie and Britney.

[46:36] Matt: Yeah.

[46:37] Alison: If there's a scene with Rachel, I'm forgetting.

[46:38] Matt: Um, there's not. I mean, she's obviously like the teacher in this scene, but like, did they actually shoot that together?

[46:46] Alison: I don't have any evidence to support that. It's just like the stranglehold at this point that you know that we are all in of like you have to pay attention to Rachel at all times. And I'm not saying she shouldn't have had this number. This number is good. It's, you know, it's got a lot going for it. Um, but it's just funny that like even on an episode that like was about entirely other characters, there's still gonna be, you know, the one Rachel performs.

[47:09] Matt: I think that's so funny that you bring that up because there are literally two Rolos in this episode.

[47:14] Alison: I was just thinking that.

[47:15] Matt: And one of them is—one of them not even being Britney, exactly.

[47:18] Alison: So right, yeah.

[47:20] Matt: Um, yeah, they're like, "We're gonna do this activity. Uh, Lea, don't worry. You know, you'll still have one song." Um, and then even one at the end. "You want more? Uh, this episode's not about you. We'll give you even more at the end. But that one is gonna make history, so like you're gonna be fine."

[47:33] Alison: Yeah.

[47:35] Matt: Um, I—I don't like—I didn't think that I would like this on paper. I think if you were like, "Baby, one more time. Do you like this, Andrea?" I'd be like, "Not really." Watching it right now, I was reminded. This is actually really great.

[47:50] Alison: And I think exactly how I felt, yes.

[47:53] Matt: Dare I say, can I—I don't know, I don't think you'll agree with me on this. Better? I prefer this better than the original.

[48:00] Alison: I reach for this more than the original.

[48:02] Matt: I think that her—like for that.

[48:04] Alison: I might whisper and agree with you.

[48:05] Matt: Her like literally—how much of that, Andrew? Is because I know for me that I reach for most covers of most Glee covers over originals. Is that like just usually the case for you?

[48:15] Alison: But I think that this one specifically, I think, uh, from what I understand from the Gleeks is that they do not like this, that they're like, "Send it away." This is—I have you not heard this discourse, or am I just making this up?

[48:28] Matt: I don't think enough people—well, not—no, I don't think many people in my orbit are talking about "Baby One More Time."

[48:34] Alison: I mean, let's talk about it with friends over brunch last weekend.

[48:38] Matt: Um, yeah, no.

[48:40] Alison: No, I mean, I did mean in Michael Orbit, like even the people that are even in Michael Orbit.

[48:46] Matt: Um, yeah, no, I really like that because I think it's like—it's kind of like funny when she does the Broadway voice on like "Baby One More Time." I'm just like, this is so silly and so stupid. I can't help but stan. I really did enjoy it. I think because it sounds like so much like the original, like I could go either way. Like, I would pick the Glee version over the original just because there's nothing different about them.

[49:12] Alison: But this could win over whatever's pulled, depending. I don't know. I feel like right now I'm not confident in what I'm gonna pick because I don't, you know.

[49:20] Matt: That's—that's a very good episode for music, Brittany. Brittany, uh, it's got, um, like this—uh, without looking at the full list. Uh, I know for sure is like one of my bottom two, uh, of the episode. And again, that's not looking at a list, but I just know that every other song I like it more. But this is still good.

[49:41] Alison: I do want to bring up what it won against in round one. Um, I don't know exactly who voted for what. I feel like, okay, so it was in the Cameron Mitchell episode of round one, and it was the competition was, um, "Downtown" versus this, and I feel like it might have been Alison that voted for "Downtown," whereas me and Cameron voted for "Baby One More Time" if I were to bet.

[50:10] Matt: And I stand by it.

[50:11] Alison: Yeah, that's the right call. I know that people really do like "Downtown," but I do like "Downtown."

[50:17] Matt: Not over this, but I do like that song in general.

[50:20] Alison: Yeah, it's cute, but no, "Baby One More Time" makes sense to go through, but will it go through again?

[50:20] Matt: But will it go through again?

[50:26] Alison: I think it will get—we'll see.

[50:29] Matt: Ooh, this is a fun competition, actually.

[50:32] Alison: This is fun.

[50:33] Matt: This is fun.

[50:35] Alison: Are we gonna fight?

[50:37] Matt: Uh, maybe. I don't know.

[50:39] Alison: The more I think about it, I'm like, it does feel like a little bit of a layup, but I don't want to sway you.

[50:46] Matt: Oh god.

[50:48] Alison: Um, is it sway?

[50:50] Matt: I know, I was like, wait. She's back.

[50:54] Alison: Oh, it is.

[50:58] Matt: Here we go.

[50:58] Alison: Is it out?

[50:58] Matt: Oh god.

[51:03] Alison: This is hard.

[51:06] Matt: Are you a man who loves?

[51:15] Alison: Are you a god in the prison maximum security?

[51:23] Matt: Do we stay home all the time?

[51:26] Alison: Cause you want me to yourself.

[51:32] Matt: Or am I like a way out of fear that I'll find someone else?

[51:39] Alison: Is that you?

[51:40] Matt: Well, I don't like living under your skylight.

[51:48] Alison: Maybe if you treat me right.

[51:53] Matt: You will never have to worry now.

[52:00] Alison: You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

[52:05] Matt: What the hell do you think you're doing?

[52:08] Alison: Loving me.

[52:10] Matt: Loving me so wrong.

[52:15] Alison: Baby, all I do is right to show you that you're mine.

[52:41] Matt: Hey, don't lie.

[52:48] Alison: No, no, just because you think I might find somebody.

[52:48] Matt: No, no.

[53:03] Alison: I don't lie.

[53:05] Matt: Yeah.

[53:05] Alison: Living under yes for life.

[53:12] Matt: Sweet, you're right.

[53:13] Alison: Yeah.

[53:23] Matt: I need an official count for the amount of songs that Brittany and Tina back up for.

[53:28] Alison: I was just thinking the same thing again.

[53:30] Matt: Let's do it.

[53:31] Alison: Oh my god. Because it's a—looking at a list.

[53:33] Matt: Let's do it.

[53:33] Alison: I was thinking that.

[53:35] Matt: Single ladies.

[53:37] Alison: Mm-hmm.

[53:38] Matt: Take a bow.

[53:38] Alison: Um, I know what boys like.

[53:40] Matt: No, it's not "Take a Bow." "Take a Bow" is Mercedes and Tina. I'm so sorry.

[53:43] Alison: Okay.

[53:44] Matt: I know what boys like.

[53:45] Alison: Is that—I think that's correct.

[53:45] Matt: That's correct.

[53:46] Alison: She pushes them to the floor.

[53:48] Matt: Get it right.

[53:49] Alison: Am I wrong?

[53:51] Matt: It doesn't seem to be.

[53:52] Alison: Are you getting it wrong?

[53:56] Matt: Wait a minute.

[53:58] Alison: I know.

[53:58] Matt: Like, I'm not gonna teach your boyfriend how to dance.

[54:00] Alison: I was gonna say, I was gonna say that.

[54:02] Matt: Um, you beat me to it.

[54:04] Alison: Um, I'm checking the tapes for "Get It Right."

[54:08] Matt: Uh, not "The Boy Next Door."

[54:11] Alison: I think the whole ensemble just comes out after Rachel's.

[54:13] Matt: That's what I was thinking.

[54:16] Alison: Nope.

[54:17] Matt: Nope.

[54:17] Alison: Here we go.

[54:18] Matt: Look, play the tapes.

[54:20] Alison: Look at that.

[54:21] Matt: Oh, look at those two.

[54:22] Alison: There, Rachel's looking back at them like, yep.

[54:25] Matt: Andrew's right.

[54:25] Alison: Proceeds.

[54:27] Matt: And you know what's so strange, like just of the many episodes I've now listened to of "And That's What You Really Missed," why has this never come up once to my recollection? Like, why is it like not part of Tina, you know, like or Jenna's experience to—I was gonna say like part of Tina's story on the show that like she was always backing up next to Brittany?

[54:47] Alison: Yeah, because it happened so often. I don't know, I feel like we're missing one. Are we missing one? We have to be. There has to be more that we're just not—oh yeah, thinking of—oh, and yeah, not "The Boy Next Door" where he's like—that was also Mercedes.

[54:47] Matt: Oh my god, in the—

[54:47] Alison: In the sexual stresses? No, no, when Kurt's, um, auditioning for Nyada was—you know, no, it was—it was Brittany, Tina, and Mercedes. There's three of them.

[54:47] Matt: Does that not count?

[54:47] Alison: Uh, I don't know. Way in, in the comments, does that count?

[54:47] Matt: So many things to say, Alison, you start.

[54:47] Alison: Well, oh my gosh, so I feel like in the same vein with "Colorblind," I feel like the people who pick the songs latch on to like a single lyric and are like, "Yeah, that kind of applies to Mercedes' storyline," and then we'll have her sing it. But then when you listen to the rest of the lyrics, you're like, "What?" Like, right? I don't like the same with, um, what were we just talking about? Like, I don't know. I'm like, it doesn't apply. And then I will never get over Mercedes' 30-year-old boyfriend standing in the wings cheering her on, and I don't think this is a great audition song for Maria. Um, but you know, she was like, "I have—I'm living under her spotlight."

[56:06] Andrew: And that's that's it's important for me.

[56:09] Matt: That will apply to the situation. Um but you know, we love to see Jordan Spark's representation.

[56:14] Alison: That's Jordan Sparks, is that Jennifer Hudson?

[56:14] Matt: Jennifer Hudson?

[56:15] Alison: Jennifer Hudson.

[56:16] Matt: I was so close. Um it's it's giving Jordan Sparks.

[56:21] Alison: It is no there's a um when Jennifer Hudson did um Carpool Karaoke with James Corden, they go up to like a like a Burger King or something, and she's like singing along to the melody of this, and I won't do that. I but she asked, like, what kind of burger do you want in the melody of Spotlight?

[56:42] Matt: And now that I'm saying it, it will be part of the carousel. Um, but no, I really like this, but like also like I'm also very confused about uh like is she singing about this? She's obviously saying this about Rachel, but it's like clearly about like a romantic relationship that I'm like, what's going on with Shane?

[57:01] Alison: But like the whole thing with Shane was that he was like the most supportive guy in the world and you know, always had her back and pumps her up and says, You're better than Rachel, you're better than all the rest of them.

[57:11] Matt: Like, so I mean, obviously, there was downfalls in that relationship, and that's you know, for one of the many reasons why the two of them are not endgame, but um, I don't know.

[57:21] Alison: I feel like oh, do I want to go down this path?

[57:26] Matt: I feel it.

[57:27] Alison: No, I I feel like I remember distinctly that they were like building, they were like, they were talking about there was like some discussion about Shane Sh Shane Sadies uh like having a very heavy storyline that was cut short because Sam came back that I'm like, and then like I remember hearing or something that I was like, um, that storyline was repurposed for another character that I was like, oh now, was there ever a world where Shane was gonna join the Glee Club no sorry and I'm sure he's a delightful human this actor but this Court Overstreet just returned and took someone's job right I do we have any do we have any proof that Lamarcus Tinker can sing I would love the glisteners to do some recon for me um I mean the performance as a whole like you know it's it's definitely good as well um it's you know the the Tina and Brittany uh backups they they hit pretty well most of the time anyway so it's not like you know it's a bad thing if they're used in a lot of different numbers because I usually like their inclusion.

[58:40] Matt: Um my you know one thing I'm taking away watching this is um just the reminder of Artie being you know having such power in this uh world of like two teachers with like the are getting paid to be here and uh be a part of you know this experience and making adult decisions uh about this group of teenagers and then student director Artie Abrams also having the power the where you know if Mercedes looked at him funny one day he could just be like yeah you don't get the part you're done which is like I I've said it before but like I really don't understand why I understand it was like a plot plot first but like Artie being like you two are virgins and like West Side Story is so you cannot be virgins if you're playing Tony and Maria and I'm like I feel like you prop you definitely can who wrote season three?

[59:27] Alison: I'd like to talk I have a lot of questions about season three, but this is hard because obviously Mercedes is gonna eat every time, but then there's like Baby One More Time.

[59:40] Matt: That's iconic.

[59:42] Alison: Are you gonna get Baby One More Time on the Glacket?

[59:46] Matt: The way I came in here storming into this uh gloom call and oh, I don't like gloom.

[59:46] Alison: Uh gloom.

[59:53] Matt: I mean, this is what we're kind of this is kind of like the vibe right now. Sometimes there's gloom.

[59:56] Alison: Um I don't like storming into this gloom call and demanding that Mercedes solos get you know a lot more focus um as you know they come up, and then getting Spotlight as the example of uh the the first one to put me to the test of uh put my money where my mouth is.

[1:00:13] Matt: I will say that I really do like Spotlight.

[1:00:14] Alison: Spotlight is maybe Ooh, I don't even know because how many how many Mercelas do we have by series end?

[1:00:21] Matt: I want to say like maybe like what 25?

[1:00:24] Alison: I know that like Rolos were in the 40s.

[1:00:28] Matt: Uh so I wanna I feel confident in saying that Spotlight is definitely in the top 10, which doesn't seem like that high, but you know, she obviously has better work than this, but it's this is still very good.

[1:00:41] Alison: Um it's obviously shout out to my girl Asian F.

[1:00:45] Matt: Asian F, you are loved by me most.

[1:00:48] Alison: Uh if if you have one fan, it's me. If you have zero fans, I'm dead.

[1:00:53] Matt: Um yeah, I I really like this a lot.

[1:00:57] Alison: Should I factor in which one of these, if I had to pick one, plays at my wedding?

[1:01:01] Matt: Um hopefully not Baby One More Time.

[1:01:08] Alison: They're all small spot.

[1:01:10] Matt: It's like, but how so how do you spin one of these songs to like convince your entire guest list that this is uh about love and um hmm?

[1:01:19] Alison: Baby One More Time is also I think it could work.

[1:01:22] Matt: I think it's like a it's like a crowd pleaser.

[1:01:24] Alison: Also, you know, imagine a remix where you put a you know a fun beat behind it.

[1:01:27] Matt: Um maybe that's Spotlight.

[1:01:32] Alison: I'm kind of to you, Andrew, where I have to factor in like the context.

[1:01:36] Matt: So like it's real like for Spotlight, it really just takes me out of it when I'm like, this is not a Maria audition song.

[1:01:43] Alison: This song has nothing to do with the storyline.

[1:01:46] Matt: Like she sings it beautifully, but if we're only considering the MP3, then I'm gonna pick Spotlight.

[1:01:51] Alison: But if I'm considering everything, I don't know.

[1:01:56] Matt: Do you feel like you know?

[1:02:01] Alison: I do.

[1:02:02] Matt: Um, and I'm trying to convince myself that I'm not going to be a hypocrite by placing my vote for uh Baby One More Time because what I said was I know nobody's arguing with me about like what I said, but I'm I'm arguing with myself.

[1:02:15] Alison: Um what I said was we need to just be very careful and making sure that we are not sending any more solos away that should not be sent away.

[1:02:23] Matt: But Spotlight, maybe this is a time to say goodbye.

[1:02:27] Alison: Um wait, so sorry to cut you off.

[1:02:31] Matt: No, but so you're saying Baby One More Time.

[1:02:35] Alison: I'm saying Spotlight.

[1:02:37] Matt: No, don't do this.

[1:02:38] Alison: The time has come.

[1:02:42] Matt: Please.

[1:02:43] Alison: I was suddenly so scared.

[1:02:45] Matt: I live for moments like this, please.

[1:02:48] Alison: Oh my god.

[1:02:49] Matt: I was not like of all the things I would thought we were gonna talk about today, I didn't think I was going to be a tiebreaker.

[1:02:56] Alison: Well, so you talk through Spotlight.

[1:02:57] Matt: If it was just the MP3 that might get the pass, does does Baby One More Time lose points for it just being a shot to shot recreation?

[1:03:05] Alison: Or is it like virtual stuff?

[1:03:08] Matt: I think that feels like a leading question.

[1:03:10] Alison: I mean, I feel like I loved when Glee would like recreate scenes, pay homage, or whatever.

[1:03:15] Matt: Like it was kind of cool to see it done in its own Glee way.

[1:03:21] Alison: A leading question for her to vote against the song I picked.

[1:03:24] Matt: My heart is beating so fast, but I am going to vote Baby One More Time.

[1:03:29] Alison: Wow.

[1:03:30] Matt: I apologize personally to Mercedes Jones.

[1:03:34] Alison: Um me too.

[1:03:36] Matt: We have so many better Mercos to choose from.

[1:03:41] Alison: And this is bottom for me.

[1:03:44] Matt: That's why I'm very happy that we had a contentious vote nonetheless.

[1:03:50] Alison: That's crazy.

[1:03:52] Matt: Oh god.

[1:03:53] Alison: Wow.

[1:03:53] Matt: No, because only if my memory serves correctly that people don't like Baby One More Time.

[1:04:02] Alison: That's the only thing that I'm thinking of.

[1:04:04] Matt: That I'm like, if I'm right in that hypocrite, because I will I stream Spotlight Glee version.

[1:04:10] Alison: Like I love this song because I like listening to it.

[1:04:12] Matt: But just watching that just now, I'm like picking it apart.

[1:04:15] Alison: Like, what is going on?

[1:04:17] Matt: This is so brutal.

[1:04:18] Alison: Like, we just sent through like the song is about Mercedes being in Rachel's spotlight.

[1:04:23] Matt: Oh my god, we validated that experience.

[1:04:25] Alison: You were like, Yeah, well, we said you're right.

[1:04:31] Matt: I w I'm I would change.

[1:04:33] Alison: I don't know.

[1:04:34] Matt: You would change your vote?

[1:04:35] Alison: You've already you're done.

[1:04:36] Matt: We're we're down.

[1:04:37] Alison: The narrative is not moving.

[1:04:39] Matt: Okay.

[1:04:39] Alison: We're not working.

[1:04:41] Matt: But we're comfortable.

[1:04:42] Alison: I'm I'm just like asking, are we ready to move on to competition number two?

[1:04:45] Matt: Or is there any we the votes were locked in, a song was sent away, a song was sent through.

[1:04:51] Alison: Correct?

[1:04:52] Matt: That's fine.

[1:04:53] Alison: Okay.

[1:04:54] Matt: Just wanted to make sure that I that's fine.

[1:04:56] Alison: Understood the situation correctly.

[1:04:58] Matt: I'll make it up to her.

[1:04:59] Alison: Oh wow.

[1:05:01] Matt: Spotlight, I love you.

[1:05:04] Alison: Don't worry.

[1:05:04] Matt: Even though I really do, I you know, Baby One More Time.

[1:05:07] Alison: I like it.

[1:05:08] Matt: Not as much as Spotlight.

[1:05:11] Alison: I think it's only got one more time.

[1:05:12] Matt: If it makes it a lot of it, I'd be very surprised.

[1:05:16] Alison: Um, so we have a song from the very next episode after Asian F.

[1:05:25] Matt: Um that's for if I hear Rory Flanagan in my ears.

[1:05:32] Alison: No, you are being treated to a blow low.

[1:05:36] Matt: Here we go.

[1:05:37] Alison: Last Friday Night.

[1:05:38] Matt: Which also, yeah, it is Last Friday Night.

[1:05:43] Alison: Also, I think it's sick because Last Friday Night won against a Mursolo in round one.

[1:05:50] Matt: So this is just like what did it win against?

[1:05:53] Alison: It won against uh I want to know what love is, if if I recall correctly.

[1:06:00] Matt: Was alcohol consumed before that recording?

[1:06:03] Alison: Audio media, I'm shot.

[1:06:05] Matt: Wait, are we talking would you wanna we'll talk about it?

[1:06:08] Alison: Audio media, my face is broken right now.

[1:06:09] Matt: Okay, we'll talk about it right now before even watching the damn song.

[1:06:13] Alison: I want to know what love is.

[1:06:15] Matt: I I think the context, what you're talking about, Alison, is like when you're really taking into consideration the entire thing.

[1:06:22] Alison: Whereas this song that we're about to watch, keep your eyes on Quinn.

[1:06:28] Matt: She's giving a lot.

[1:06:30] Alison: I can't wait for two minutes and ten seconds from now.

[1:06:32] Matt: But go ahead.

[1:06:33] Alison: Here we go.

[1:06:41] ♪ Musical number: "Last Friday Night" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[1:08:40] Matt: May I?

[1:08:41] Alison: Yeah, go ahead.

[1:08:43] Matt: May I.

[1:08:44] Alison: Um Santana Lopez uh never been more relatable in her entire life.

[1:08:50] Matt: Um than in this moment of just sitting in a chair and being so unimpressed with this performance with everything happening here.

[1:08:58] Alison: Um are we looking at Quinn because of the Bob?

[1:09:00] Matt: The Bob is Bobbing.

[1:09:01] Alison: Um we're looking at the I think I brought this up last time that we pulled it in round one, the Quinn run.

[1:09:07] Matt: She does it in a few now.

[1:09:08] Alison: She's running this way, she's running that way.

[1:09:11] Matt: Whenever Quinn runs, it's it's it's giving a lot.

[1:09:15] Alison: When she was under the bleacher, she wanted to be on the track, but she can't be happy.

[1:09:19] Matt: She is a runner, she is a track star.

[1:09:21] Alison: Yes.

[1:09:22] Matt: Um so this is bad.

[1:09:24] Alison: This is real, real bad.

[1:09:25] Matt: I don't know how it made it through here.

[1:09:26] Alison: Um, it is another, you know.

[1:09:28] Matt: I I talked about this with next to me of just like, okay, you know, we have a hit song from the time.

[1:09:34] Alison: Let's put it on the show and get it on the charts.

[1:09:37] Matt: And simply nothing more.

[1:09:39] Alison: Like, what more is there to this?

[1:09:40] Matt: I am a belolo boy until I die, and yet I don't want anything to do with this one.

[1:09:46] Alison: I really, really don't.

[1:09:47] Matt: Um, they, you know, it's uh they also have the teenage dream factor of like, okay, uh Darren Chris, Katie Perry songs.

[1:09:55] Alison: We gotta make it happen.

[1:09:56] Matt: It already happened, it was great, and now let's do it again.

[1:09:59] Alison: And it flopped on its face.

[1:10:01] Matt: If you ask me, um, I don't know if everyone's gonna be as negative as I am about this one, but that is my truth.

[1:10:07] Andrew: But I also legal note, legal note, legal note. I think that he's also singing this song because he was also in the music video.

[1:10:14] Matt: Correct.

[1:10:15] Andrew: Yeah, um, that I'm like, okay. But also, wasn't Kevin McKell in that?

[1:10:18] Matt: Kevin McKay, right.

[1:10:22] Andrew: Wasn't it a duet?

[1:10:22] Matt: Yeah, right. Like, we were gonna make some magic in a couple seasons, but now these two boys can't sing together. I don't know.

[1:10:27] Andrew: Right, right, right, right. So, Alison, what are you thinking?

[1:10:30] Alison: It this in particular, like there's a few songs that like aren't Glee anymore, they're just kids bop. And to me, this is very kids bop coded, adult bop. Um adult bop derogatory, adult bop derogatory. Um very forgettable. Like, I could lift this right out of the episode. And like, I mean, aside from the fact that Satan is like, oh, it's the Blaine show, but like it just has no context. It's literally just one of those numbers that they picked for the sake of, oh, he's in that, like, you know, it doesn't have any real reason to be picked to be put in the episode. We're not even at a party, we're not at a wedding, you might say. We're not like doing fun stuffs. We're just in the choir room, and it's like, okay, Blaine, you're up.

And we don't even see what you guys do on your Friday nights. We don't even know what you're singing about. Like, granted, we have seen one of their one uh singular one, and we don't know like uh the dynamics between this group as far as partying or going out goes since that time period. So I'd like a proper update, not just this half-assed, like wait, what was there a second to this point? Yes, in season six, once again.

[1:11:39] Matt: No, no, no, no. To this point, they're making their way toward that season six party, slowly but surely. Um, when I when this song first started, I was horrifically reminded of the this is so rude to two great performers, but maybe their worst moment of all time. Allie Stroker and Abraham Lim on the Glee project doing a cover of this song where they're trading off the lyrics where like Allie Stricker's singing There's a stranger and then Abraham picks it up with In my bed and they do that for most of the song. It's terrifying.

[1:12:21] Alison: Like what are those TikTok talks? What is it called? Like the ping pong duet?

[1:12:25] Matt: I I'll sing the I'll sing the first lyric. You sing red.

[1:12:28] Alison: Yes. Uh it's so scary. Flamingo's in the Barbie's on the right. Um it's a hickey or I but I still like it. I feel like a lot of their a lot of the fits here are really cute.

[1:12:46] Matt: I was going to say okay, they're cute, but like why are they dressed like suburban women going to like you know, a little like meet? I don't know. They're dressed like housewives. Picking their kids up from school, but they are the kids.

[1:13:01] Alison: Yeah. This could this could be. Honestly, yeah. Whatever. Uh Blaine in this episode, he well, like I think like they're like, oh, Mercedes left. Like we're really sad. And then Blaine's like, what if this lifts the mood? And then he sings this, and then Santana's mad. And then she does does she leave this episode or she leaves this episode, yeah.

[1:13:28] Matt: I would leave two. I'm following you right out that damn lawyer. Same time. I'm surprised that like Puck was like okay with this, honestly. Like, what? I don't know. Like, I mean, yeah. No, just no. I mean, was Will even there? Was Will ready to leave too? I don't know.

[1:13:44] Alison: Right. Yeah, the song started and he was like, all right, he can take it from you. What is I want to know what love is.

[1:13:52] Matt: Okay, you're still not seeing the vision. I mean, this is boring. And I at least I want to know what love is gives vocal, but then I feel like if I had watched it, I don't know. Doesn't even sound like Darren Chris. Like it's just it's like this man who like is one of my favorite male vocalists of many male vocals out there. Uh it it doesn't sound good.

[1:14:20] Alison: Yeah. Um there's one stan out there of this song, one person that is like please rise. Please come to the last we want to hear from you.

[1:14:31] Matt: We do want to hear from you, but um any any final words on last Friday night.

[1:14:40] Alison: No.

[1:14:41] Matt: Congratulations to the next one.

[1:14:43] Alison: Right. Yeah. I I see it kind of poking its way out.

[1:14:47] Matt: All right. It's oh. Oh well, okay. Please don't make me vote for last Friday night. Please um it is oh, it's right after. So I have folders um for each season. And it's r the song directly after Baby One More Time.

[1:15:10] Alison: Is that that's the most but I'm all I'm saying is that longer?

[1:15:15] Matt: No. No, alphabetically.

[1:15:17] Alison: Oh, alphabetically. Yeah.

[1:15:19] Matt: Yeah, sorry. Sorry, I shouldn't have to be able to do it's cold outside.

[1:15:21] Alison: It is, baby, it's cold outside.

[1:15:25] Matt: Well, I really can't.

[1:15:31] Alison: But baby, it's cold outside.

[1:15:34] Matt: I've got to go away.

[1:15:35] Alison: Baby, it's cold outside.

[1:15:38] Matt: This evening has been opened you.

[1:15:41] Alison: So very nice.

[1:15:47] Matt: My mother will start to read for what's your father will be pacing the fireplace.

[1:15:56] Alison: So really I'd better see please don't but maybe just have a drink on while I put neighbors might think it's bad out there.

[1:16:08] Matt: Say what's in the world. This has to be had out there.

[1:16:13] Alison: I wish I knew how eyes are like star to break this bed.

[1:16:18] Matt: I'll take your hat. Your hair looks why I'd say no no no sir moving at least I'm gonna say that I trust hurting my brother.

[1:16:31] Alison: Really can't baby don't hold out.

[1:16:34] Matt: Oh, but it's cold outside.

[1:16:43] Alison: I've gotta get but baby you'd freeze out there.

[1:16:47] Matt: Say uh lend me a cup.

[1:16:52] Alison: You've really been through when you touch my head.

[1:16:55] Matt: Don't you see how we do this thing to be talk to my life long.

[1:17:05] Alison: At least there will be plenty and plenty of pneumonia and I really can't sit over that hold out.

[1:17:17] Matt: Oh, but it's cold.

[1:17:26] Alison: My cheeks hurt from smelling.

[1:17:31] Matt: Um yeah. This, like, I don't know if I like this was my original thought, or maybe it could have been like Ian from Recovering Gleek that maybe coined this idea that at this point in the series, it's really giving that like Blaine is an imaginary friend. And like this he's fully not real. Like if someone were to walk into the room right now, because like Mr. Shoes. I feel like I talked about this in a past episode that like Mr. Schuster walks in right before this song, and he's like, uh-huh. Sure, sure. I that Blaine's really nice. Um, but he's not real. I it I could really be sold on the fact that he that would have been such a fun twist. Blaine was not real. There hasn't been a Blaine here in 60 years.

[1:18:25] Alison: You mean Blaine Anderson? I went to school with him.

[1:18:32] Matt: Um what do we think? Maybe it's called Outside Glee Cast version by Glee Cast, not the Glee Project version, which we talked about earlier. You had to be on Tumblr when this aired. Like it was like cultural reset. Like every moment of this is gift somewhere on Tumblr.

[1:18:51] Alison: Well, that gif, that Looney Tunes GIF that you sent the other day of wait, just describe so it's at what Elmer Fudd and Bugs Bunny, and there's like a nailed sign to a tree, and it's supposed to say duck season, rabbit season, or is it Daffy Duck? One of them. And but instead of duck season and rabbit season, it says Clayne season and cum season with a K K-U-M. With a cum.

[1:19:22] Matt: Which I'm like, so that's Kurt and S and Sam.

[1:19:28] Alison: Sam? And then I when I after I sent it, I was like, Kurt and Sam. Oh, because of the uh jacket and hotel room of it all, right?

[1:19:36] Matt: I no, I would I was thinking that it maybe even before then the duetification of it all.

[1:19:41] Alison: Okay, okay. Yes. So yeah, kind of. I don't even know if it's is it like particularly that, or is it just the fact that people knew that Sam was supposed to be there possibly for Kurt?

[1:19:51] Matt: Yeah.

[1:19:52] Alison: That could be a too. I don't know. Um but no, this was a moment, um, and still is. I feel like, you know, when when watching this show, I mean, how many young gay people were watching the show a lot, um, waiting for, you know, some uh not even just necessarily like for Kurt, but like, you know, not not for Kurt, um, to find a boy to uh you know fall in love with in the same way, you know, that all some of the uh straight couples on the show had been to that point. And this was uh before any real Britanna, right? Like yeah, far but just like took place. So it was significant in the show for sure, and um, you know, problematic song aside, um I know it still has they left the lyric in Clayne just is the continuing to be uh problem problematic, pushing the boundaries.

Um, yeah. I remember like watching this and I was like, ooh, with my parents, I was like, I want the next scene, next scene, next scene, next scene. Only because I'm like, I cannot it's like watching almost like a sex scene with it. It literally is.

[1:20:59] Matt: Yeah, it's like like don't look at me while we're both watching this together.

[1:21:03] Alison: It is yeah, nothing it's uh singing a song around the fireplace. Yeah, relax. But I do like it. I feel like it's like probably ranked higher up on clain duets for me. Like I I think that they really lend their voices to it. Um without looking at a list, I want to say got to get you into my life, maybe holds that number one slot. I think that one's the cutest to me.

[1:21:27] Matt: It's very cute. Um, but I would go Daydream Believer number one.

[1:21:32] Alison: Wow. Really?

[1:21:34] Matt: And yeah, of course. It's too late, is really good. That's my favorite Clain duet for sure. But got to get to get you into my life is a t is a pretty high contender as well. So um and then also like this this the season two Christmas episode, just like it they never for me at least, they never like reached that peak again with the Christmas episodes. But like this one involved plot. The other ones were like, hey, if you missed this episode, that's okay. We can we we'll get back into it in January. But like, you know, this is just a bonus episode for y'all.

[1:22:16] Alison: My god, you're so mad.

[1:22:17] Matt: Yeah, I really I love the season two Christmas episode. I mean you think between this and last Christmas, those are the top Christmas glee songs like streamed.

[1:22:28] Alison: I think so.

[1:22:29] Matt: I was thinking that too. I'm I'm I almost want to say that baby it's called outside. I recall being higher up.

[1:22:35] Alison: Yeah, yeah.

[1:22:37] Matt: Because I think this is always streamed for me. Like every Christmas I'm playing this version of this song. Like I don't even acknowledge any other versions. But I think between because I've heard last Christmas like in the wild, like at a Walgreens. Like, so between that anywhere.

[1:22:53] Alison: Yeah.

[1:22:54] Matt: But I could I was like, oh, this might be the most popular Christmas glee song without looking at a list.

[1:22:59] Alison: Wait, what song did you say, Matt?

[1:23:01] Matt: Oh, the chipmunk song.

[1:23:02] Alison: Oh, the chipmunk song. Oh.

[1:23:06] Matt: Never heard that one in the wild. But I have heard like extraordinary Merry Christmas in the wild as well.

[1:23:11] Alison: Yeah, I think I have too. I needed to go home.

[1:23:14] Matt: Yeah. The Christmas episodes have grown on me, I would say, as the years go on, because it's become like even if I'm not like 2020, I watched a lot of Glee. 2021 watched a little bit of Glee. Um and then since then, it's like, all right, well, are we gonna do it every year? Um, but like the past two years at least, I've watched uh the Glee Christmas episodes on Christmas. It's become like a new tradition, and uh, I don't know, it just makes you grow a little bit more of an affinity for them when you're watching them on the actual day.

[1:23:41] Alison: Yeah.

[1:23:41] Matt: So um, yeah, this one uh I also kind of like the season five episode for all the chaos of it all. Wait, if you were if if you were to do a ranking, what would y'all's ranking be?

[1:23:52] Alison: I heard what you said, but I'm still like earlier, I'm still gonna go four, five, two, three.

[1:24:01] Matt: Four four on top?

[1:24:03] Alison: Right. No, it's a hot take.

[1:24:06] Alison: Okay, wait. So I need like, without refresh my memory. So I, because season two, what we're watching right now is amazing. Like you said, it moves the plot along. But then, like you said, the chaotic one, the what is it, the last episode?

[1:24:21] Matt: Five.

[1:24:22] Alison: Yeah. Just the New York group in that of, you know, Santana and Rachel. It's not as low for me, I feel like, as should be hot sample.

[1:24:32] Matt: Oh no, I think it's, it's yeah.

[1:24:34] Alison: The people that don't get it, I was gonna say Mary's boy child alone ranks at Love Child, Love Child, Love Child. In a Christmas episode, I love it's the kind of thing where if you're not growing as a Gleek to accept or to appreciate those, then you're getting left behind.

[1:24:54] Matt: Yeah.

[1:24:55] Alison: Exactly. What a great way of putting it. For me, I'm going to do two, five, three, four. Three has some decent covers. You know, which is the one where he's like, you're the glue RD.

[1:25:12] Matt: That's four.

[1:25:13] Alison: You're the glue, glue. You're the glue RD.

[1:25:17] Matt: That's four. Absolutely last place.

[1:25:20] Alison: Ah no.

[1:25:23] Matt: But that's what you're signing off on.

[1:25:25] Alison: But Police Navi Dodd alone in his last place. I came in here, what, an episode or two ago defending police.

[1:25:31] Matt: I know, I know.

[1:25:33] Alison: It lost to frickin' Rachel in the back of Mr. Shoe's car. Get out of here.

[1:25:38] Matt: But yeah. Are we ready to, oh also I just like wanted to bring up. This was like a harder competition in round one. This was against They Long to Be Close to You, which I feel comfortable saying is the best Samolo.

[1:25:57] Matt: No.

[1:25:58] Alison: No. Because you are forgetting that girls on film exists.

[1:26:02] Matt: See, that girls on film is not the, it's not what I'm looking for. Girls on film, I feel like is a deep cut for saying that's the best Samolo. People are saying that. I feel like Alison Dodge has said that as well.

[1:26:15] Matt: So you have her as well.

[1:26:19] Alison: But they long to be close to you is, it's a good thing. I would have they longed to be close to you. It's such a cute song. I love that song in general.

[1:26:28] Matt: You would have picked they long to be close to you over Baby It's Cold Outside.

[1:26:31] Alison: Oh, oh sorry, I forgot what we were talking about, honestly. I thought we were talking about Snami Dodd still.

[1:26:34] Matt: Um over, sorry. No, absolutely not. Maybe it's cold outside for sure.

[1:26:41] Alison: Yeah, I'm going Baby It's Cold Outside over They Long to Be.

[1:26:44] Matt: Yeah.

[1:26:45] Alison: But you can make some. So we've gotten to this place in a good fashion, even if Last Friday Night shouldn't have quite made it through the way that it did. But with the matchup here, I mean my vote's clear. Darren wins regardless.

[1:27:00] Matt: So also seeing them in their Warblers uniform reminded me that in Baby One More Time, they looked like they were Warblers in her the male background dancers when they're in the hallway.

[1:27:11] Alison: I was, I swear I was gonna say that. I was gonna say I'm so glad we were employing. I'm glad we were employing the Warblers before they were exactly that little like, hey, if you liked that, Warbler soft launch.

[1:27:22] Matt: Come back soon for more boys in suits.

[1:27:25] Alison: Yes, the Warbler soft launch. That's absolutely what it was.

[1:27:28] Matt: Yeah, um, okay, yeah, Baby It's Cold Outside for sure for me.

[1:27:35] Alison: Yeah, okay.

[1:27:36] Matt: Okay, so we'll cross the boards.

[1:27:39] Alison: Okay. I think I feel like since we had a difficult competition as the first competition, I'm like, is the rest of the episode gonna be in the clear? Sometimes instead of a hard competition, you just need to do the right thing and get songs out of here that just don't belong here anymore.

[1:27:53] Matt: So this song that I have here is I would like to see it live to see another day. Um, but like I could also see it kind of falling. Alison, your season six hopes are slowly diminished.

[1:28:13] Alison: Um season four. Here we go.

[1:28:21] Matt: Okay.

[1:28:22] Alison: Stop being so modest and get your butt up here, Jake.

[1:28:27] Matt: Okay, but ow.

[1:28:32] Alison: Looking back on when I were the little nappy headed boy.

[1:28:41] Matt: Then my only worry was for Christmas, what would be my toy.

[1:28:50] Alison: Trying your best to bring the water to your eyes.

[1:28:55] Matt: Thinking it might stop up from whipping you all behind.

[1:28:58] Alison: I wish those days could come back once more, watch it those days, and I have to go.

[1:29:07] Matt: I wish those days could come back once more, watch it those days, eh?

[1:29:15] Alison: I have to go, cause I love them so smoking cigarettes and written something nasty on the wall.

[1:29:32] Matt: You nasty boy.

[1:29:35] Alison: She just sends you to the principal's office down the hall.

[1:29:44] Matt: You grow up and learn that can.

[1:29:48] Alison: But while you were doing it, it showed that I said I wish those days could come back once more.

[1:29:57] Matt: Watch it those days.

[1:29:59] Alison: And the have to go.

[1:30:01] Matt: I wish those days could come back once more.

[1:30:06] Alison: Watch it those days.

[1:30:50] Matt: Come on in.

[1:30:52] Alison: Hey guys.

[1:30:53] Matt: Hey guys. Did you like my wish?

[1:30:55] Alison: Yeah.

[1:30:56] Matt: You know what I wish, Jacob?

[1:30:59] Alison: What do you wish?

[1:31:00] Matt: What do you, tell me?

[1:31:01] Alison: I wish a lot of things about Jacob Artists, but say them out loud.

[1:31:05] Matt: Oh, every episode is explicit. We can say whatever we want.

[1:31:10] Alison: Um well.

[1:31:13] Matt: Um, love the way he moves, you know. Just to throw that out there.

[1:31:18] Alison: Um, what does Marley say that we both, we all just lost the thing?

[1:31:22] Matt: Nasty boy.

[1:31:23] Alison: Yeah. Why do they do that to her? It's not the, it's not the only time. Right.

[1:31:27] Matt: She always has this random atlas.

[1:31:29] Alison: And I'm all I can't so often.

[1:31:32] Matt: I kind of like it.

[1:31:33] Alison: I everything's going so well.

[1:31:36] Matt: That's her.

[1:31:38] Alison: Wait, do you not ever, do you not like everything's going so well?

[1:31:41] Matt: It's not that I don't like it, it's that I have questions as to why it's always Marley.

[1:31:48] Alison: Oh, okay. Because oh, so glad we're talking about this. Marley is the most boringly written character.

[1:31:57] Matt: That's so mean to say.

[1:31:58] Alison: She is like boring.

[1:31:59] Matt: You can say coded.

[1:32:01] Alison: Um, however, Melissa brings so much, she breathes so much life into this character that does not align at all with Marley.

[1:32:12] Matt: There are episodes with like, I think like during like in the background of like Happy, where she's doing this little Grinch walk in the background.

[1:32:20] Alison: Um, that I'm like, I'm obsessed with that. I'm obsessed with like the fact like these choices that she makes specifically during musical numbers, that once the song is over, she's like, Oh, I'm boring again.

[1:32:34] Matt: Right, but like she's like a kind of like out of her little genie lamp for every time that someone sings a song.

[1:32:41] Alison: So yeah. I don't mind it. I feel like the, like, you know how season four is all about planting these seeds that are not gonna happen. So like they, uh, Mercedes and Mike are like, oh, Jake is like really good. We should feature him, and then it even cuts to Mr. Shu and he's like has a look on his face that's like, wow, she's really good.

[1:33:00] Matt: But then not the Demi Lovato.

[1:33:02] Alison: And then it's really like I can't wait to not feature this guy in any of the numbers. Like I don't know. I feel like this number is supposed to be like, look how good Jake is, and then that's it.

[1:33:12] Matt: And he's just like doing his part in Hall of Fame with the rest of the boys in the club.

[1:33:19] Alison: Like he doesn't have like a stand-up. It's almost like they're trying to like pump him up in the way of like, you know, how Finn was the leader. They're like, Oh, well, you have to take charge in this, but like he's not a leader in this club, but like, uh sure he's a choreographer if you want to even give him that title.

[1:33:34] Matt: But Brittany is, is Brittany still here? Brittany's still there.

[1:33:37] Alison: Uh, Brittany's not in this episode. I tried re-watching this episode right before this recording to get myself in a Glee mood, and I did turn it on in a wonderful mood, in a wonderful mood. I'm just like the opening scene with like Rachel calling Mr. Schuster and being like, I got a Broadway callback, and then she, and then he's like, That's wonderful news, and then he just like comes running into the Nickley Club, guys. We're doing Stevie Wonder. It's so stupid.

[1:34:09] Matt: Um send good vibes to Rachel.

[1:34:10] Alison: This, oh, that's in the next episode. Like, send Rachel all your love to the right, yeah.

[1:34:15] Matt: Um, but I also the reason that I wanted to watch this episode was because, uh, it's like the anniversary today, and I saw that like, I believe it was Abby that tweeted that Mike and Mercedes were canonically dating.

[1:34:30] Alison: I saw that today.

[1:34:31] Matt: During this period of season four, and I thought I was completely alone in this thought, but Mike and Mercedes were definitely smashing.

[1:34:42] Alison: They seem so close. Like when they're like in cahoots.

[1:34:48] Matt: Because they show up together.

[1:34:49] Alison: Wait, what do you say?

[1:34:51] Matt: Because they walk down the hallway together.

[1:34:54] Alison: Um no, because like I feel like every time that like Mercedes comes back in season four specifically, it's always with Mike.

[1:35:02] Matt: Like it never like once raises an eyebrow to be like, what's going on there?

[1:35:08] Alison: Um, are the dog days over or not?

[1:35:10] Matt: Um wait, what it yeah, Mike Sadies.

[1:35:15] Alison: Mike Sadies. Boring ship name, but really, really beautiful ship that they did not explore.

[1:35:24] Matt: Do we have a lot of Jacob Artists in round two?

[1:35:27] Alison: I, so we definitely have Nasty Rhythm Nation, and I feel like, um, there might be, I know that like My Prerogative is done.

[1:35:36] Matt: Um, what is like another Never Say Never seemed?

[1:35:40] Alison: There's a lot of, um, a lot of duets with Marley, and I know that the one that I like the most, I or I think, um, Crazy You Drive Me Crazy, I think is gone.

[1:35:48] Matt: It's gone.

[1:35:48] Alison: I feel like you're all I need to get by, is that gone too?

[1:35:51] Matt: You're all, so this is the funny thing, though. I'm so glad you brought it up. You're all I need to get by lost to this song in round one.

[1:35:59] Alison: Wow.

[1:36:00] Matt: That's incorrect.

[1:36:02] Alison: I know that wasn't, I'd Unchained Melody, I'm sure is out of here.

[1:36:07] Matt: Unchained Melody is unfortunately out of here.

[1:36:10] Alison: That's an always stream for me.

[1:36:13] Matt: Unchained Melody?

[1:36:14] Alison: Yes.

[1:36:15] Matt: Unchained Melody not the Glee version, would play at my wedding.

[1:36:20] Alison: I love that song, but I do love the Glee version.

[1:36:23] Matt: Oh, would you, would you play the Glee version?

[1:36:27] Alison: I'd play it in my headphones in my house in the Pride Well of my own home.

[1:36:31] Matt: In your headphones at your wedding.

[1:36:33] Alison: Yeah, because if that's playing at the wedding, like, and I'm picturing just the pottery and Marley. That's not where I want to be.

[1:36:38] Matt: That's not the headspace I want to be in.

[1:36:40] Alison: Right, because Marley was the first person to do the pottery during that song. No one else.

[1:36:46] Matt: So here's the thing. I was gonna ask you about that, actually. Is I get the vibe that this is not the first time that this has come up because it came up on, can you tell me what's, what's the lore behind the song in pottery?

[1:36:57] Alison: Oh, it's in the world.

[1:37:00] Matt: Oh, I had no idea.

[1:37:01] Alison: No, never seen.

[1:37:02] Matt: I've never seen it either, but it's like famous.

[1:37:04] Alison: The scene is it what Patrick Swayze?

[1:37:07] Matt: I got it.

[1:37:08] Alison: But so I knew that there was more to it because something recently, I have no idea what it was. I was watching something recently. It might have even been like Degrassi or something like that, and pottery was involved, and somebody was like, Oh, well, like what are you gonna sing Unchained Melody? And I was like, but that happened on Glee too. So there must be, they were making a reference to Glee.

[1:37:24] Matt: Yeah.

[1:37:25] Alison: Um, in the movie Ghost, Demi Moore and Patrick Swayze toward the beginning of the movie. I believe it's been a minute since I've watched it, but like at the beginning of the movie, they do the spinning pottery together, and that song is playing in the background.

[1:37:40] Matt: Patrick Swayze does die. This is not a spoiler. The movie is called Ghost, and he is a ghost for a majority of the movie.

[1:37:47] Alison: And um toward the end of the movie, I believe that she's doing the pottery by herself.

[1:37:52] Matt: The song is playing again, and she can like feel his spirit behind her as she's in the movie.

[1:38:01] Alison: So they also, I I've never, um, I've never seen the broadcast. I've never seen it, but it has Elsa cat Casey Levy.

[1:38:08] Andrew: I was like Elsa.

[1:38:10] Allyson: Oh.

[1:38:11] Matt: She plays the, I think she plays the Demi Moore character.

[1:38:13] Allyson: The Demi Moore.

[1:38:14] Matt: Yeah.

[1:38:15] Allyson: Oh, I feel like there's a song from that musical that people use for auditions a lot.

[1:38:19] Matt: I'm not familiar with it though.

[1:38:21] Allyson: Oh.

[1:38:22] Andrew: Hmm.

[1:38:23] Matt: But yeah, Whoopi Goldberg in the damn movie.

[1:38:27] Allyson: She got an Oscar for it, but still somehow Glee is the biggest thing she's ever done.

[1:38:33] Matt: So true.

[1:38:34] Allyson: Sister Act would like a word.

[1:38:37] Andrew: Um, I like this song.

[1:38:42] Matt: Any further notes?

[1:38:44] Allyson: I feel like I'm with you of like, well, no. Because I think exactly what you said was I would like to see it go through, but you didn't sound the most convincing when you said that.

[1:38:52] Matt: Yeah.

[1:38:53] Allyson: So like if it goes through because we pull something worse, whatever. But like, I'm hoping for a banger to close us out here.

[1:39:01] Andrew: With like one, but can you shake that cup up like real good?

[1:39:04] Matt: Yeah.

[1:39:05] Allyson: Tell me when to stop.

[1:39:09] Andrew: Six.

[1:39:10] Matt: Six, five, four.

[1:39:12] Allyson: Go.

[1:39:13] Andrew: Oh, wait. Are we, are you counting down?

[1:39:16] Matt: I'm just putting the six out there so we can get a season six.

[1:39:20] Allyson: You were like six, five, six.

[1:39:24] Matt: Six.

[1:39:24] Allyson: Like that's not how you count down.

[1:39:27] Andrew: I was like, why would you start with six?

[1:39:29] Allyson: Um, okay. Well, we're at least like ending with a bang. Um, there's so much to talk about here.

[1:39:37] Matt: I am so sorry, Jake, but um, you're done.

[1:39:37] Allyson: You're done.

[1:39:45] Matt: You're done.

[1:39:46] Allyson: Not gonna be a successful pitch to get him on the show, but he's gonna listen to this episode and be like, okay, no.

[1:39:53] Andrew: Um, do we know what it is?

[1:39:56] Allyson: Is this Rumour Has It/Someone Like You?

[1:39:58] Matt: It is Rumour Has It/Someone Like You.

[1:40:01] Allyson: It's not, I'm gonna cry.

[1:40:11] Matt: She ain't real.

[1:40:13] Allyson: She ain't gonna be able to love you like I will.

[1:40:17] Matt: Sure, she's got it on.

[1:40:21] Allyson: But baby, is that really what you want?

[1:40:26] Matt: Audio media, Allyson's face.

[1:40:29] Allyson: Oh my god.

[1:40:31] Matt: Bless your soul, you got your head in the clouds.

[1:40:34] Allyson: You made a fool out of you and but she's bringing you down.

[1:40:38] Matt: She made your hot mouth, but she's cold to the core.

[1:40:42] Allyson: Now Rumour Has It, she ain't got your love anymore.

[1:40:46] Matt: Rumour Has It.

[1:40:47] Allyson: Rumour Has It, Rumour Has It, Rumour Has It.

[1:40:55] Matt: Rumour, bang. I remember I heard that you settled down, that you found a girl, and you're married now.

[1:41:19] Allyson: I heard that she your dreams came true.

[1:41:25] Matt: Guess she gave you things I didn't give to you.

[1:41:29] Allyson: Whoa, Rumour Has It.

[1:41:38] Matt: Rumour Has It.

[1:41:42] Allyson: Rumour, bang.

[1:41:44] Matt: I remember.

[1:41:49] Allyson: Never mind, I'll find someone like you.

[1:41:56] Matt: I wish nothing but the best for you.

[1:42:08] Allyson: I remember say.

[1:42:11] Matt: Sometimes it lasts in love, but sometimes it hurts instead.

[1:42:19] Allyson: Sometimes it's in love, but sometimes it hurts instead.

[1:42:29] Matt: What did you say to her?

[1:42:30] Allyson: What did you just say to her?

[1:42:31] Matt: Oh, I was just saying you were really good.

[1:42:34] Allyson: Did you tell her to?

[1:42:36] Matt: Um, wow.

[1:42:39] Allyson: Well, that's it. That's the Glacket, you guys.

[1:42:41] Matt: Um, that's the Glacket.

[1:42:42] Allyson: What were you saying, Andrew, the other day?

[1:42:45] Andrew: Was it this song?

[1:42:46] Allyson: Uh, when people like make the joke of like, I'll just end it, you know, with, oh, like this is obviously gonna win.

[1:42:52] Matt: No, I feel like here, Paradise by the Dashboard Light, or Somebody to Love season one version, obviously.

[1:43:00] Allyson: Yeah, you did say so.

[1:43:01] Matt: I mean, I would have thought that this would have been, you know, that's like, do we want to like talk about like what do we, because obviously this is winning this competition. However, like what is the trajectory of Rumour Has It/Someone Like You on the Glacket?

[1:43:13] Allyson: I feel like it's going to the at least top 10.

[1:43:18] Matt: Isn't that crazy to say top 10?

[1:43:20] Allyson: Top ten.

[1:43:20] Matt: No, I'm not, that's not the farthest, but at least, right?

[1:43:25] Allyson: So it's undeniable the impact that this song has had on the show and pop culture as a whole.

[1:43:34] Matt: Like there will be, you know, a random people, you know, blog one day that'll just be like, People Magazine remembers Rumour Has It/Someone Like You.

[1:43:42] Allyson: And like this isn't an actual article that I've read, but I'm sure that I have, you know, over and over and over again, where, you know, when people pick up on the fact that like, oh, there's Glee nostalgia in the air, let's remind everybody that this is the performance that we should all be remembering.

[1:43:54] Matt: It'll be like, oh, remember the Adele mashup. And it's the one that, you know, you can get your average Gleek from years ago that has not thought about the show since then to, you know, jump back on board with and be like, oh my god, I love that.

[1:44:08] Allyson: You know, it's so that, you know, the impact is, uh, it speaks for itself as far as, you know, where it sits within the world of Glee, but I think it'll be very interesting to track as we go, you know, with the people that come on this podcast, you know, all of us who, you know, maybe we need help, but also, um, that we're just so in it that there's a good chance that it doesn't necessarily sit at the very top of our list in the same way that it might as Glee as a whole.

[1:44:39] Matt: Um, but that's, that's, you know, with like, like for me, like if it doesn't make my top 25, that's not because, well, it might, I don't remember. Um, it's not like me saying, oh, it's not my number one song because it's bad, of course not. It's just that like we all know that it's one of the best songs ever done on Glee. So when we're voting on songs in the Glacket as we go forward, I feel like there's a chance it may not go all the way to the end for that reason. It's, it's an interesting one to talk about.

[1:45:05] Allyson: I'm so happy that we have it here.

[1:45:08] Matt: Yeah, I'm glad that it's, you know, at least like locked in for round three, and we do not need to be concerned about it like being potentially up against like an I Feel Pretty or Very Nice.

[1:45:20] Allyson: Right?

[1:45:21] Matt: Like, I'm so glad that like this was the competition at hand. Like I'm so sorry, I wish, but like not even like Jake's best number. Like I'm like glad that like Nasty Rhythm Nation has a chance to potentially flourish.

[1:45:34] Allyson: Um, but yeah, I don't know. I'm just like now, like I'm thinking like of potential like matchups that this song could find itself in. Like, is this better than River Deep Mountain High?

[1:45:47] Matt: For me, I think it is.

[1:45:50] Allyson: Well, okay.

[1:45:50] Matt: It just, I feel like this number is like when you think of songs that just are Glee and it checks all your boxes that you're saying, like it moves the plot along, the vocals, the performance, the MP3 and MP4.

[1:46:03] Allyson: Like Glee is famous for its mashups. And it's, this is the mashup.

[1:46:05] Matt: The societal impact.

[1:46:08] Allyson: Yeah. It's doing something interesting with like two good songs to begin with.

[1:46:13] Matt: That it's like, oh, like, and Adele, who is like on that like a Whitney level, like it's like this is like a great voice that it's like, how do you even compete?

[1:46:22] Allyson: Like, this is how you compete. This is like taking both great songs and like combining them together and making it, I want to say better.

[1:46:30] Matt: Yeah, of course.

[1:46:31] Allyson: I've honestly never noticed Brittany so heavily on the Rumour, like because you don't see her sing. And I turned, I was like, turn my music all the way up. And you, it's like very clearly Brittany singing the background vocals.

[1:46:43] Matt: So I never took that into consideration before either.

[1:46:45] Allyson: Yeah, that's it. I just know Vanessa Lengies is in this performance.

[1:46:48] Matt: Really?

[1:46:49] Allyson: Wait, what is she doing?

[1:46:51] Matt: She is one of the dancers.

[1:46:53] Allyson: Oh, I, because I know like she does like the what in like Survivor episode.

[1:46:58] Matt: Exactly.

[1:46:58] Allyson: No.

[1:46:59] Matt: Um, I'm just, uh, I have to remind myself of that sometimes because we're so focused on the three in the front for obvious reasons.

[1:47:05] Allyson: But she wasn't in I Wish because it was a tribute episode.

[1:47:09] Matt: Right.

[1:47:11] Allyson: Um, but also, Matt, thank you so much for bringing that up because like Vanessa Lengies in a musical performance is always bonus points for me.

[1:47:18] Matt: So also, just in case I forget to mention it later, um, this reminded me that, uh, a few years ago, I created a version of Rumour Has It/Someone Like You, but by Adele, that like I took, I think it was like her performance at the Royal Albert Hall of like, it was like she did an entire concert where she obviously sang both songs, and I, um, mashed them both up.

[1:47:48] Allyson: And so I'm obviously only saying this for the sake of adding it to the carousel. I'm gonna take a look at it back again and be like, is this actually good content to share the carousel? I don't know. I've never shared it anywhere, so I'm like, maybe I sh, that maybe this is the opportunity to do so.

[1:48:02] Matt: Anyway, all that to say that like Rumour Has It/Someone Like You, Glee Cast version, Mike Lee Cast. Um, I've never felt so compelled to do that with any other song.

[1:48:12] Allyson: So this song definitely has such a grip on me. But like, so like, okay, we know the positives.

[1:48:20] Matt: Um, it's like not to like say that this is a negative specifically, you know, it's like now I'm just being critical and you know, wishing I could write up my dream Glee world, but like just imagine this song with like Quinn and Tina also included. Like imagine like the power of that group.

[1:48:35] Allyson: It's so dumb.

[1:48:37] Matt: I know that like so Jenna talking about like the Michael episode and like everything that happened on set with her, that I'm like, gosh, like if that were to happen a little bit earlier in the season, I feel like Tina would have been a lock in Troubletones.

[1:48:58] Allyson: You know what I mean? Like it's so silly.

[1:49:01] Matt: Like they would have said, we're mad at you for, well, no, because okay, so like, okay, so the lore goes. Jenna, Jenna is a, like, uh, the Michael Jackson episode was very stressful for a number of people.

[1:49:12] Allyson: Um, Jenna specifically has reached her peak, understandably so, and um, and then she's asked to, you know, depart and she's not enough.

[1:49:23] Matt: Yeah, Spanish teacher, and then, you know, a few episodes later, she gets props that I'm like, okay, like so.

[1:49:30] Allyson: What I'm learning this past year through listening to their podcast is that like this sort of behavior is kind of like met with like, oh, then here is something.

[1:49:38] Matt: Here's your cookie.

[1:49:39] Allyson: Yeah, here's your cookie, here's your props. That I'm like, um, that I'm like, if it happened earlier in the season, I feel like it because like watching the beginning of season three, it does not make any sense to me that like Tina would not want to join Troubletones.

[1:49:54] Matt: That I'm like, I feel as though if that behind the scenes moment happened, maybe potentially earlier, then like she would have been included, got a storyline, you know, something.

[1:50:05] Allyson: Yeah, I mean, you could obviously argue that like as far as her decision on wanting to stay or not, once Mercedes and Santana are gone and Brittany, it's like, okay, well, now I'm one of two of the top girls in the Glee Club. Rachel, you know, can't compete at this next, uh, whenever that comes up.

[1:50:23] Matt: So, you know, her stock rises for sure within the New Directions. Where if she goes back to, if she goes to Troubletones, she just falls right back to where she was.

[1:50:31] Allyson: Um, again, this number with all the girlies would have been, uh, you know, it's already, uh, perfect, but yeah.

[1:50:43] Matt: At least we'll always have Edge of Glory.

[1:50:45] Allyson: That's, that's exactly what I picture when I'm like just get them all together, get everyone there.

[1:50:51] Matt: Um, and I, that's part of, you know, one of the big factors besides the song itself. Is Tina, is Tina in I'm So Excited?

[1:50:55] Allyson: Tina's not in I'm So Excited.

[1:51:01] Matt: No, I wasn't sure.

[1:51:03] Allyson: I just watched that episode the other day, and I was like, well, that was the Troubletones with like a bunch of just the moms.

[1:51:10] Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:51:11] Allyson: Jennifer Coolidge, like Jennifer Coolidge, who I guess we are, we're led to believe went into the studio to record, which is like such a, I don't know.

[1:51:23] Matt: It sounded like, I was, I even played it over again because I'm like that, it's not Gloria Steffan, like it sounds like somebody else.

[1:51:30] Allyson: Yeah, yeah.

[1:51:31] Matt: Hmm.

[1:51:32] Allyson: Wow, biggest thing.

[1:51:35] Matt: I do think this ends up being the pick of all the songs that we've said, uh, that would end up playing at the wedding. Only for the sense of like, okay, if you're gonna have a Glee wedding, like not that this is like gonna fit the vibe, but like if you're gonna have, again, Glee related wedding, like do it.

[1:51:48] Allyson: I am so obsessed with the fact that you just brought that up because, um, when I went to Minnesota to be Allyson's wedding date to one of her friends, Paige.

[1:52:00] Matt: That was like an episode.

[1:52:01] Allyson: I was just gonna say, I remember you guys doing voice notes in the side. That, that was so, that wedding, I remember Alice and I were like very, very gone by the end of the night.

[1:52:14] Allyson: And the only song that I wanted to hear was um someone like you, Adele, which is not appropriate at all to be played at a wedding. But like as the night's winding down, I was like ballsy enough to be like ask the DJ. I requested it and it was played and it was a crowd pleaser. It was a crowd pleaser. People friggin' love it.

[1:52:36] Matt: A dance version?

[1:52:38] Allyson: No, no, no. It was like no, but like people like especially like after you're like very um, you know, inebriated, that it's like you're you're kind of just like really being silly about singing someone like you. So um, no, I mean, if anything, I'd be like, all right, so who's gonna like do the performance here? Like who's like, you know, practicing the simple enough choreography to like pull this off and make it a thing, but um besides the point, it's I mean, yeah, it's gonna go deep into this competition.

[1:53:11] Matt: The I guess the problem for it would be like you know, it could happen at any any moment in time of the uh I feel pretty unpretty uh faithfully.

[1:53:21] Allyson: Faithfully.

[1:53:22] Matt: It can happen at any time. Uh and it could happen to this song just as well. But like you said, what are the songs that it could go up against where in a round three, around four, you say, all right, this is time we can lose rumor has it. I was thinking, How will I know? As like a I don't that's a dark horse for me.

[1:53:40] Allyson: I don't I I know that it's going to go far. I feel but I feel like people forget about how will I know.

[1:53:45] Matt: And like, do not read it.

[1:53:46] Allyson: How will I know?

[1:53:48] Matt: I do not forget.

[1:53:49] Allyson: Yeah.

[1:53:50] Matt: But I don't like, I feel like I've done I'm not seeing people talk about it actively.

[1:53:53] Allyson: I want to get the discussion going. So start the campaign now. Start keeping the discussion away so that when it comes up on the Glacket, we're like, oh my god, we totally forgot about this. It has to go through.

[1:54:03] Matt: Yeah. I don't know. I but I I want both songs to succeed. But like how will I know versus rumor has it someone like you could destroy me.

[1:54:15] Allyson: So I feel like how will I know the thing that holds me back from it is like why is Rachel there? But like they're gonna say Kurt. But I like, I mean, if you're talking about the plot, it makes sense that he's mourning Whitney's death versus Rachel.

[1:54:30] Matt: Do you even know who that is, Mike?

[1:54:34] Allyson: I think she gets like the cultural significance. But still, like I think that it ends there. It's it's just not believable to me that between Kurt, Santana, and Mercedes that they wouldn't have been like Rachel sit this one out.

[1:54:47] Matt: Right.

[1:54:47] Allyson: When she because uh Rachel was like, oh, I don't get why people like Michael Jackson, and but you get like you know, in the same, I don't know.

[1:54:54] Matt: Oh, I I kind of hate when they do that in like the tribute episodes where they're like they have the one character that's like I don't get it. I'm just like shut up.

[1:55:05] Allyson: Like Sam does it in and the Whitney Houston episode that I'm like.

[1:55:13] Matt: And then actually John Lennon did this, like starts just like both sides.

[1:55:18] Allyson: I hate in the tribunal.

[1:55:20] Matt: Yeah, I I I simply can't be pleased.

[1:55:22] Allyson: Um okay, so I wish see ya, right?

[1:55:30] Matt: I wish you were up against a worse number, but oh, oh, we're doing it.

[1:55:36] Allyson: Okay, we're doing it. Baby, one more time.

[1:55:39] Matt: That's exactly what you're gonna get. You're gonna get one more time and then it's done.

[1:55:44] Allyson: You're done.

[1:55:45] Matt: Spotlight.

[1:55:46] Allyson: I already said this earlier, but the spotlight's turning off. The lights are it lights out to quote the glee episode title.

[1:55:53] Matt: Um Last Friday night, it will be your last final Friday night.

[1:56:00] Allyson: Um baby, it's cold outside, then come on in to round three. It's warm-up inside.

[1:56:08] Matt: Um I wish uh obviously you did, but that you wishes don't always come true.

[1:56:17] Allyson: Um rumor has it, rumor has it, someone like you made it to round three, and the rumors are true.

[1:56:24] Matt: Rumors episode.

[1:56:27] Allyson: Right.

[1:56:28] Matt: Right, right.

[1:56:29] Allyson: To bookend that.

[1:56:31] Matt: Um, okay. Incredible. I feel like we we covered a lot of ground this episode. Thank you so much for being um Gleeks this week.

[1:56:39] Allyson: Um, do we have current opinions of songs, storylines that Glee would be doing also in 2024?

[1:56:49] Matt: You first, Matt.

[1:56:51] Allyson: Oh, I got nothing. Nothing.

[1:56:52] Matt: Okay. This is I while I while I love to hear what people have to say. This is not something that generally goes through my glee brain.

[1:56:59] Allyson: So I'm happy to defer.

[1:57:01] Matt: I feel like Allison, it's all you. Because I'm like Broadway 24-7. Sometimes I'll listen to a song and like, oh, this would be these characters. But every episode of this podcast that I've been on, I am of the Glee waitress collab.

[1:57:14] Allyson: And I just opened the the Glistener group chat, and that's literally the latest message. Kate Lee from the Patreon shout out to the Patreon says that in my notes app, like I have notes of Gleeted Waitress.

[1:57:25] Matt: So hopefully she will list those in the uh Glistener group chat.

[1:57:28] Allyson: Oh, I have not seen this message yet.

[1:57:30] Matt: Okay, okay. I'm excited.

[1:57:31] Allyson: But uh oh, there's three replies.

[1:57:33] Matt: Okay, well, but I was listening to the last five years today, and I feel like if it was like a gender swap, like Rachel and Finn, like were Rachel's the Jamie character. Like I know that the songs of the last five years are very plot heavy, but I feel like there's something there with like you know, Jamie's becoming more successful, and Kathy's like, I'm nobody, and I feel like maybe not, I'm not thinking too much into it, but there's something something there.

[1:57:58] Allyson: I gotta come clean. Haven't seen this.

[1:58:01] Matt: I understand it's on streaming.

[1:58:02] Allyson: It okay, so The Last Five Years is one of the few shows that I prefer the movie over the actual show. But the actual show is literally only two people, and I know they people prefer the Broadway performers vocals over Jeremy Jordan and Anakin Kendrick, but I just like you see the whole picture in the movie, you see the entire story.

[1:58:21] Matt: So it's definitely a movie you could watch, and you're familiar with the show. Highly recommend last five years.

[1:58:27] Allyson: Okay, I will be watching. I will be reporting back.

[1:58:29] Matt: Oh of it all.

[1:58:31] Allyson: Yes, but another song I would love to see them do is Let Me Be Your Star from Smash. I don't know who would sing it though.

[1:58:38] Matt: Uh-huh.

[1:58:39] Allyson: Maybe uh I don't know. I mean, Rachel's the obvious choice, but Rachel versus another, like what a Santana and Mercedes stars in the stars in the literal title of the song, too.

[1:58:51] Matt: So that's a rollout.

[1:58:53] Allyson: Yeah.

[1:58:54] Matt: Yeah.

[1:58:54] Allyson: But no, but it's so it's a duet, though.

[1:58:57] Matt: The song is a duet with two women.

[1:58:59] Allyson: They're like okay. Have you watched Smash?

[1:59:02] Matt: I okay.

[1:59:03] Allyson: So I watched like maybe I feel like I watched the first season while it was on.

[1:59:06] Matt: Was it how many seasons was it?

[1:59:08] Allyson: Two.

[1:59:08] Matt: Two.

[1:59:09] Allyson: Okay.

[1:59:10] Matt: So I only watched that first.

[1:59:11] Allyson: Yeah.

[1:59:11] Matt: Well, Let Me Be Your Star is like the like when you think of Smash, that's like the song from Smash. So like it's these two women competing to be Marilyn Monroe, but that so it's definitely a duet, but it's like Rachel and who who's like.

[1:59:24] Allyson: Oh it can be Rachel with any of the girls.

[1:59:27] Matt: I mean like Sugar.

[1:59:28] Allyson: Sugar.

[1:59:29] Matt: Yes.

[1:59:31] Allyson: Um, I remember really loving the National Pastime.

[1:59:35] Matt: I have that in my that's literally in my notes.

[1:59:38] Allyson: Oh, perfect.

[1:59:39] Matt: Wait, so who's doing national pastime?

[1:59:41] Allyson: So I just I wrote down a bunch of Smash songs like National Pastime, Let's Be Bad would be like another fun. Like, I don't know if they paid like homage to the show and like it's like a dream sequence. But National Pastime is kind of the same vibe as like I don't dance from high school musical too.

[1:59:58] Matt: Like baseball boys and like, you know, you and kind of like how they did all the boys in like um hot in here centerfold, kind of in that like all the boys just getting together.

[2:00:11] Allyson: Um but smash lots of I could do anything about Glee and Broadway. I was like, give me a Broadway show and I'll figure out how to put Glee in it.

[2:00:18] Matt: You got it.

[2:00:19] Allyson: Perfect. Duly noted.

[2:00:20] Matt: I'm logging that information.

[2:00:21] Allyson: I'll be at Funny Girl tonight.

[2:00:23] Matt: Um wait, you're doing you're waiting you're wait.

[2:00:26] Allyson: What you're with Funny Girl?

[2:00:27] Matt: I right now.

[2:00:29] Allyson: I'm with a lot of different shows, but right now I'm with Funny Girl, and then I'll be with Company and then Doubtfire.

[2:00:35] Matt: Oh wow, what a great lineup.

[2:00:37] Allyson: But like high school musical, but just spiritually.

[2:00:41] Matt: You're with them all the time.

[2:00:44] Allyson: Um, well, Elison, Matt, thank you so much for being Glikes this week again. Where can all of the listeners find all the great work that you continue to do?

[2:00:57] Matt: Alison, starting with you.

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[2:01:20] Matt: Oh my gosh. Go follow, go purchase, go support.

[2:01:24] Allyson: Um, Matt, where can they find you in your podcast as well?

[2:01:30] Matt: Uh yes. Well, uh the Glee podcast, of course, the choir room as mentioned uh earlier. Uh has not had a new episode in a little while, but um, you know, never say never as far as us getting you know back behind the mics for uh Glee Cast version of the code.

[2:01:44] Allyson: I was just um I saw it on both of your faces.

[2:01:48] Matt: Um uh, you know, may pop back in there at some point, but either even still like hundreds of episodes that we recorded uh over the course of the pandemic and uh you know the year after.

[2:01:59] Allyson: Um I'm on Twitter at Matt Lagoria's Easiest Place to Find Me, as well as you know, the new glistener group chat.

[2:02:05] Matt: Uh so in there.

[2:02:07] Allyson: Yes.

[2:02:07] Matt: And uh also if uh there's any more crossover, um, I can't remember which one uh which guest it was last week. One of the boys that uh was talking about binging 45 seasons of Survivor, um, would like to connect there.

[2:02:19] Allyson: I think Charlie and Patrick are both survivor fans.

[2:02:21] Matt: I was the outlier.

[2:02:23] Allyson: Yeah. Love that.

[2:02:24] Matt: Um, but yes, so if there's more crossover with the reality TV fans and the uh Gleeks, um I have a podcast where we mostly cover uh the challenge, the reality show.

[2:02:35] Allyson: Um, it's almost Big Brother season.

[2:02:38] Matt: It is it's actually currently Big Brother season in Canada.

[2:02:42] Allyson: Oh, we'll we'll tell um what uh a pretty strong ending to the current uh Canadian big brother season and then US big brother yes we'll be back very soon and uh we talk about all that stuff so that's that uh thanks again as always andrew incredible and like you're you're a fellow gabber you you like to gab length like hours yeah so if you if if you be liking these uh hours long episodes of Gleek the week you're going to love what Matt has to say truly about anything glue or not reality TV show yeah so uh in the spirit of gabbing on longer than necessary um when we first when we ended doing the portion of the choir room of episode recaps we knew we were gonna do character studies which is what we did um and the first one we were like all right well we you know we have notes uh we did quinn first um I just wanted to start with a character that I was you know uh a big fan of and was going to passionately lead us into love her work yes love her work and also it was somebody who you know we have three heavy seasons of Quinn content to focus on the latter half of the seasons we kind of breathe breeze through um I think that podcast recording took seven hours in one day that wait so that's like continuous in one day um that's like a full time job that is we ever did that of course uh being a quin fan is like that it is work um yeah after that we realized okay no matter who this is we need to break them up into more than one recording that's crazy parts and whatnot so if you ever if you go back to the feed.

[2:04:15] Matt: You'll see Quinn for Bray, one podcast.

[2:04:17] Allyson: Uh, very, very long. The rest of them we split up.

[2:04:19] Matt: But uh, in the spirit, like you said, of of loving to gab, we gabbed.

[2:04:23] Allyson: Uh that's crazy.

[2:04:24] Matt: Because like I like today, the the day that we're recording this right now, um, and that's where you really miss released a interview with Becca Tobin, which is like just over an hour long.

[2:04:35] Allyson: And I'm like, I like looked at the time the length of that episode and I was like, I'm gonna get so much done while listening to this.

[2:04:42] Matt: And I cleaned my entire apartment while while listening.

[2:04:46] Allyson: So I can only imagine the things that I'd accomplish while listening to this Quinn for Bray breakdown.

[2:04:51] Matt: That's you would have to uh buy a new apartment and clean it 4,000 times.

[2:04:55] Allyson: So I'm gonna be I'm gonna be running for president actually, you guys.

[2:04:59] Matt: Um okay, I feel like uh we promoted also thank you for both for promoting the Patreon.

[2:05:07] Allyson: Um Patreon.com slash Glee the Week Pod.

[2:05:11] Matt: Uh with two lovely Glaitrons sit in front of me right now.

[2:05:15] Allyson: Um of course the Glistener group chat is alive and thriving.

[2:05:19] Matt: Um that is for all tiers.

[2:05:22] Allyson: But um, I will be we're ironing out some details with um two folks from Glee that will be coming on very soon.

[2:05:33] Matt: Hopefully, they're interested.

[2:05:36] Allyson: Sat. This is a good thing.

[2:05:38] Matt: I hope you're gonna clean your entire apartment while listening to this episode.

[2:05:41] Allyson: Um it it will be really good.

[2:05:42] Matt: I'm very, very, very excited for this.

[2:05:47] Allyson: So go to the Patreon, find out who it is, potentially ask them a question and be the first to listen to it when it's released.

[2:05:54] Matt: Um, anything else?

[2:05:56] Allyson: I don't think so.

[2:05:57] Matt: This was so much fun. Thank you so much.

[2:06:00] Allyson: Um, okay, bye.

[2:06:03] Matt: Bye.

[2:06:05] Allyson: It's Glick.

[2:06:06] Matt: Click of the link.