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[0:00] Noah Guthrie: Hello!

[0:02] Marshall Williams)): How's it going?

[0:04] Noah Guthrie: Oh my gosh. Marshall, I'm so happy to see you.

[0:07] Marshall Williams)): I'm pumped to see you too. This is awesome.

[0:09] Noah Guthrie: Dude!

[0:10] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[0:11] Noah Guthrie: Oh my god. I was I actually so uh just before we um pressed record here, I was looking through my uh I don't know if you still have this this like Glee yearbook thing they gave us. Do you remember this?

[0:22] Marshall Williams)): Oh no. Man, I moved so much so much that I have no idea, but I I remember that.

[0:28] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, so I was trying to find our stuff and I let's see, hold on. We're near we're near the back, obviously, but um this is like back to high school.

[0:36] Marshall Williams)): It is, it really is.

[0:37] Noah Guthrie: Uh let's see here. Yeah, here we go. Hold on. See if I can get it.

[0:42] Marshall Williams)): That like I can't see because of the thing.

[0:45] Noah Guthrie: There's oh yeah, yeah. Hey Noah, nice to see you again.

[0:53] Marshall Williams)): No, oh my god, no, this is what I wanted. So I was just like waiting for an in. Oh, how are you doing? It's nice to see you.

[0:57] Noah Guthrie: Nice to see you as well. Uh doing well. I feel like it's been like three years.

[1:03] Marshall Williams)): It's yeah, I mean almost we did it. Did we record the last one during the pandemic?

[1:07] Noah Guthrie: I mean during like I think it was like March 2021. So yeah.

[1:11] Marshall Williams)): Okay, yeah. In that in that time frame. So um very excited it was a standout episode. Our listeners loved having you on, and I was like cool. What's a fun way that we could have you back on and bring in Marshall? And so I think this is great.

[1:24] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, I like fun. Fun's good.

[1:26] Marshall Williams)): Fun is fun.

[1:27] Noah Guthrie: Yeah. We've got a mission.

[1:37] Marshall Williams)): There's no rhyme reason to it.

[1:40] Noah Guthrie: So don't get my Andrew and Alison. Who in the show has the clique of the week who's the head hunt show?

[1:54] Marshall Williams)): Glack it by Glackett. We'll rank everyone. Just see if someone move closer to spot number one.

[2:03] Noah Guthrie: Click of the week. Click, click, click of the week.

[2:09] Marshall Williams)): It's Gleek, click of the week.

[2:12] Noah Guthrie: I am so excited. We are joined by not one, but two Glee cast members this week. You might know them as Roderick and Spencer. I'm joined by Noah Guthrie and Marshall Williams). How are you guys doing?

[2:25] Noah Guthrie: Doing great.

[2:26] Marshall Williams)): Happy to be here.

[2:28] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, very happy to be here. Pumped. I'm so excited to initiate this little Glee Union, I guess, of sorts.

[2:35] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, it's a good word. I was looking at, like I, as a matter of fact, like this week is nine years since y'all made your debut on Glee television with the uh season six premiere.

[2:51] Noah Guthrie: Um Marshall, last time you were on the podcast, you you described your um casting experience. But Marshall, I would love to hear your your end. What was that like for you?

[3:02] Marshall Williams)): Oh, uh I was living in Toronto at the time. Um, and I remember doing uh a tape uh when I lived at 431 DuPont. Uh, and I did it with my buddy Burke Scarfield, and uh it was basically sending the tape, just randomly. I I did some dummy sides and then got a call back.

[3:23] Marshall Williams)): I had to do a singing thing, I think after or before it was one or the other. And then after that, got flown down to LA. Uh, went in front of the EPs, uh, and I was actually with Billy and Laura, I think, at the time, and me and Billy thought we were going for the same role, but then we ended up doing different roles. I I don't I don't know what their plan was there, but it was it was it was really funny because we're like, we're not the same at all.

[3:47] Noah Guthrie: That's incredible. Um didn't either of you ever auditioned for the show prior to season six?

[3:54] Marshall Williams)): I didn't.

[3:54] Noah Guthrie: No. Uh I wasn't even I mean, I I wasn't even pursuing it. Uh it kind of came out of nowhere for me. I don't know about you, Marshall.

[4:03] Marshall Williams)): Uh I I was pretty much the same thing. Like I just started getting into acting at that point. I think uh I started acting in 2010 or 2011, and that was 2014, maybe I think so. So I was I was just getting my feet wet still.

[4:18] Noah Guthrie: Last time you're here, Noah. Uh you helped us out with our Glee song bracket or Glackett.

[4:23] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, your glacket.

[4:24] Noah Guthrie: Uh every Glacket. I know the Gleeks, they love it. And so I know it's a good system. I like it. Every week, Marshall, to fill you in. Uh every week we take six songs from the hit show Glee, if you're familiar, uh, and we have them compete bracket style to find the very best song on Glee.

[4:44] Marshall Williams)): Um, but all sound good?

[4:46] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[4:46] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, we ready for song number one?

[4:49] Noah Guthrie: Yes.

[4:49] Marshall Williams)): Let's do it.

[4:50] Noah Guthrie: Okay, perfect. I love the the the bingo wheel you got there.

[4:54] Marshall Williams)): Yeah. Super official.

[4:55] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[4:56] Marshall Williams)): Uh a season one song. So a little throwback.

[4:59] Noah Guthrie: All right, let's see.

[7:24] ♪ Musical number: "Give Up the Funk" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[7:24] Noah Guthrie: What are your immediate reactions to give up the funk?

[7:27] Marshall Williams)): I mean electric. Uh is probably what I would say. Electric. Uh also immediate. What did they make Chris wear? What was the that fed?

[7:39] Noah Guthrie: Man. That is style. I love it. I think it might come back. What a what year? What year would that have been?

[7:44] Marshall Williams)): That was 2010.

[7:48] Noah Guthrie: Man. That makes sense. I was wearing Fedora's then.

[7:52] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, for sure. It was a big year for Fedora's.

[7:54] Noah Guthrie: It was. Um did y'all watch Glee prior to being cast?

[7:59] Marshall Williams)): Uh for me, just a little bit. Um, I think I probably watched like season one and two, maybe three. Um, but other than that, no, I I just, you know, completely fell out of it. Um I remember my stepmom being a really big fan of it.

[8:15] Noah Guthrie: Uh, and I think I started watching it with her. Um, and I'm sure she continued on, and I just yeah, again, just kind of fell out. I think I watched a couple episodes. I I remember the the only time that I remember remember watching it was uh it was like uh a I lived in this football house in Toronto at one point too, and it was billionaire with cord singing it.

[8:37] Marshall Williams)): Yes, and then uh that was that's the only thing I remember of it before. Obviously, I'd heard of the show and all that, um, but I never was into it before. And then I was like, this is a funny show.

[8:46] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, and you just fell into this world. I love it.

[8:49] Marshall Williams)): Yeah. Were there shows or like movie franchises or anything that like was your thing? Like that you were like hyperfixated on? Because obviously this is uh hyperfixation of mine.

[9:01] Noah Guthrie: Well, I mean mine, I mean, still to this day, and honestly, it's like only gotten worse. Um, I mean, my I'm I'm like a huge Lord of the Rings guy. I have been for yeah, a long time, but you know, in the pandemic, I finally like sat down and read all the books and really, really dove very deep into that um kind of history and lore and stuff. And now I mean, yeah, like that's my that is my my jam.

[9:26] Marshall Williams)): Um I'm always watching it and fixate hyperfixation is absolutely the right term.

[9:33] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, yeah. I I love Lord of the Rings. Uh I I remember trying to like learn how to write Elvish or something in high school. Uh but I I think the the strongest one for me would be like Harry Potter, because that was like that that kind of got me into reading.

[9:46] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[9:47] Noah Guthrie: I think like on all the books came out when like I was 10 and you you were almost at the same uh age point that Harry Potter was at the same time, if I remember correctly.

[9:57] Marshall Williams)): So pretty close anyways.

[9:59] Noah Guthrie: Yeah. Well, I think that like what a lot of these like hyperfixated shows, what I found found of like people that particularly like Glee, I was like a big lost fan growing up to the street.

[10:10] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, me too.

[10:11] Noah Guthrie: I was also, yeah, lost was also the thing that was the thing that like I was I was fixated on while it was happening.

[10:17] Marshall Williams)): Yes.

[10:18] Noah Guthrie: Uh that was like every Wednesday night um after like youth group uh I'd come home and and it would be me and my brother and my mom. That was our show. Uh and I remember so many nights of us screaming at the television because it just if you when you really go back and rewatch I tried to rewatch it um a couple years ago and I was like, what is that? Like what are they even doing?

[10:45] Marshall Williams)): What are you doing all over the place, you know?

[10:48] Noah Guthrie: Um but it was I we were hooked on it uh forever. And I remember being really disappointed at the ending.

[10:56] Marshall Williams)): Um, I love the ending.

[11:00] Noah Guthrie: I I want to get through a full rewatch again. Um because I think I probably would I think that like nostalgia drive would take over.

[11:07] Marshall Williams)): Sure.

[11:08] Noah Guthrie: Um but I don't know. I I remember I can't even remember why I was disappointed, but I do remember being disappointed. My my stupid teenage self was upset. Um but yeah, I remember that was like it was every week I was watching that show. Obsessed.

[11:20] Marshall Williams)): I mean, there was like a there's just like a popular misinterpretation of the ending that I would like just put out there to the world.

[11:28] Noah Guthrie: You can explain it if you'd like to.

[11:30] Marshall Williams)): Explain the ending of Lost on this Glee Podcast.

[11:33] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, for sure. It's perfect content.

[11:36] Marshall Williams)): Um, but no, a lot of people just think that they were dead the entire time and without like I guess spoiling anything, that is not the case.

[11:48] Noah Guthrie: I'm gonna have to redo it. Um I'll just have to make myself do it. Um it's probably one of those things once I get past the first season, I'll be like, I'll be hooked up.

[11:59] Marshall Williams)): You gotta commit.

[12:00] Noah Guthrie: But I think that there's something to it as well as like Glee of like just formative years watching it while I was like in high school for for Glee, and then I guess like more of a middle school for for lost, but just like something about like I guess I don't think I could see myself getting as attached to something nowadays, like new content, because I think that my my mind was so formative then.

[12:27] Marshall Williams)): You know, that's funny. I feel like if I you know, I remember when Glee was out, and I I guess I I was in high school for another two years when it came out, and I definitely don't think I would have told like high school me wouldn't have told my friends that I was like watching Glee. Um and I think that was like I mean that's part of a whole nother thing. I just I was obsessed with trying to be as cool as I could be because I was so insecure about so many other things.

[12:58] Noah Guthrie: Um so I think like from that standpoint, I think I probably would have been like, I'm too cool for that show or whatever, and I watched Lost. But flash forward, you're on the show.

[13:10] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, I know.

[13:11] Noah Guthrie: And and I think uh even when I was on the show, I had so much more of a respect for it uh and what it was doing. And you could really, you know, you could actually see what it was doing with the fan base and how um you know we would get people writing in on social media all the time of you know different stories of how it helped them, and you know, um and I and I think that if if like that's something I probably would have um you know, if I could go back and like tell my high school self, you know, one would be like you it doesn't matter how cool you look, it doesn't none of this matters. Um but it would be like you know, just like give this a shot because it in so many ways Glee and like my role on Glee was so close to my actual high school experience. Um and I and I think I I just didn't realize that until I was on the show.

[14:07] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[14:08] Noah Guthrie: But yeah, I mean, I think it was a very important show for a lot of people, and it definitely was for me once I was once I was on it.

[14:13] Marshall Williams)): Of course.

[14:14] Noah Guthrie: And it still remains to this day. It's just like it's insane the amount of like people that are still finding it. Teenagers, especially that are like, you know, finding this show and it still resonates. Maybe not all of it, but uh, you know, a good chunk of it, you know, it's still.

[14:29] Marshall Williams)): Well, it's never gonna be perfect, you know.

[14:31] Noah Guthrie: Um there's always something you can nitpick, but um, you know, I think on the whole, net good, probably.

[14:38] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[14:39] Noah Guthrie: Yeah. I I I love the uh anytime you got a message from fan, I I think it's the same with music. Whenever someone comments on your music, no, I'm sure it's the same. Where if you have the ability to help someone get through a time, or uh if you're part of that in any way, it's just such a great feeling. Uh, and that makes it very special and very important to be able to do that. Um I I always listen to music that's important to me, so I I would think that that's the same kind of uh feeling that everyone else would get.

[15:10] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, yeah.

[15:10] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, I agree with that.

[15:11] Marshall Williams)): All right, give up the funk. Do we have any notes before we get into what its competitor is?

[15:17] Noah Guthrie: I think I gotta see the the competition, honestly.

[15:20] Marshall Williams)): Uh I mean notes.

[15:23] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, I know.

[15:24] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, anytime Kevin's on screen.

[15:27] Noah Guthrie: He just you can tell he loves it.

[15:29] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[15:30] Noah Guthrie: A season six song.

[15:31] Marshall Williams)): Oh.

[15:32] Noah Guthrie: That I feel like you're there for.

[15:34] Marshall Williams)): Let's see.

[15:35] Noah Guthrie: Maybe.

[15:35] Marshall Williams)): Pittman.

[15:40] Noah Guthrie: Oh man.

[15:42] Marshall Williams)): Oh, yeah, yeah. This is a wicked one.

[15:44] Noah Guthrie: Bring the noise.

[15:50] ♪ Musical number: "Bring the Noise" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[17:03] Noah Guthrie: A star shining bright. I mean just man. God. I honestly I completely forgot about that. Um there's so many of those shots where we were literally brought in just to sit there. Um and react to things that I honestly I yeah, I forget so many of 'em, but um man. Like JJ JJ Toda, right?

[17:30] Marshall Williams)): Like his last name's Tota, isn't it?

[17:32] Noah Guthrie: Uh it goes by Josie now.

[17:33] Marshall Williams)): Oh, right, right, right.

[17:34] Noah Guthrie: Yeah. Um so I I'm tempted to give it to to that performance. Personally, personally.

[17:42] Marshall Williams)): I I am too.

[17:43] Noah Guthrie: I'm honestly I'm with Josie.

[17:46] Marshall Williams)): Really?

[17:47] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, yeah. I think maybe it's because we were watching it, or it's like uh it just there's there's a lot a lot of good feelings with uh with watching that performance. I don't know why.

[17:57] Marshall Williams)): Well I think it just hit it just hit me, you know. I don't know if Gleeks would agree, but this is the nature of the Glacket.

[18:04] Noah Guthrie: I think you know, I think we're probably throwing a wrench into your Glackett. Um that's okay. But I mean, yeah, I mean, honestly, when we were on the show, Marshall was kind of an agent of chaos.

[18:13] Noah Guthrie: So it it it tracks.

[18:15] Marshall Williams)): Um is that right? And in which ways was Marshall an agent of chaos?

[18:21] Noah Guthrie: Wow. Well, no, I mean that's a great way. I mean that in a great way.

[18:27] Marshall Williams)): No, man. You were you were always like you were the class clown of like the newbies. Um, and it was it was great. Uh we we all loved it. And but we also all knew that like you would say something off the wall, or you would say something just to get a rise out of all of us.

[18:44] Noah Guthrie: And I remember so many times, like me, me, you would say something to us, and me and Billy would like look at each other like, my god, man, like where do you what is he doing? He's like out of his mind.

[18:58] Marshall Williams)): But hey, well, I never knew that, so that's good.

[19:01] Noah Guthrie: No, I th I think you knew. Um you knew what you were doing. Um but no, I think I think uh I I do remember when Josie came on the show and uh it was like this kid showed up and just like completely owned everything they were doing. Um and I, you know, I have to give respect to that.

[19:20] Noah Guthrie: So I, you know, for me, I think I'm I'm giving it to Josie on that one, and all the Gleeks can be can be upset.

[19:26] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, sure.

[19:27] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, they have your number.

[19:28] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[19:29] Noah Guthrie: Um but like even like Josie coming in with like maybe four episodes left in the series and making that much of an impact. I think that's yeah, something to say. Um, but also from this episode as well, uh, was another introduction of another character, the character of Alistair, um, played by Phineas.

[19:52] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[19:53] Noah Guthrie: Uh, what was your um what was it like working with with Phineas?

[19:57] Marshall Williams)): I think we both had some screen time, right?

[20:00] Noah Guthrie: Um with Phineas.

[20:01] Marshall Williams)): You had you had screen time with him and I did too. And he was great. Um, yeah, he was super super nice. Um I think that's probably the the weirdest thing for me nowadays is just like seeing his gigantic, you know, success. Uh which is great. I'm so I'm so happy for him.

[20:17] Noah Guthrie: Um, but it was just so I don't know, it's just so funny to think about.

[20:23] Marshall Williams)): Um yeah, I I remember him in my scenes at least. I remember him carrying a lot of the heavy lifting on the acting side because I was just so, you know, I I I still don't I wouldn't call myself an actor.

[20:35] Noah Guthrie: So um, you know, there were many times where especially if it was any kind of improved line or anything, I would just drown. I I I just can't do it. Um and he would he would save my ass many times in in scenes like that. So thankful, thankful to him uh for that. I don't know, Marshall.

[20:52] Marshall Williams)): Uh I think you probably had a little more to do with him, right?

[20:56] Noah Guthrie: Oh yeah, yeah. No, uh I I really enjoyed working with him, and I'm like so impressed with everything that uh him and Billy have done now, for sure. Um I remember uh his family coming to set one of the days, and uh they were like obviously they'd been into music for a long time.

[21:13] Marshall Williams)): Um but I just remember uh uh Billy before Billy, and it was it was really cute when they when they came in and stuff.

[21:21] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, we have like a picture of with with them there is a picture that exists out there, yeah.

[21:25] Marshall Williams)): Yeah so far. I mean, like, do you see like because I feel like when you like watched like I remember seeing Bo and Yang in uh and just do stand up maybe in like 2017 before became Bo and Yang and I was like, that is a celebrity that that is a famous person, right? The it factor, I guess some would say. Did you like see uh something there with either Billy or Phineas?

[21:51] Noah Guthrie: Well, I mean, we I at least me. I I only met Billy very briefly in passing, sure. Um and uh with Phineas, I I don't really know. Um I think I was so you know, to me, there my experience on Glee was a great time. It was also a time where I really felt like I was kind of holding on day by day.

[22:13] Noah Guthrie: Um just because it was like my first ever big thing. Um so I don't know. I d I don't know if I could say that I, you know, saw his like immediate star power. I saw how how um completely easy he made it look.

[22:30] Marshall Williams)): Um he he felt very comfortable, I think, even if he, you know, internally maybe he didn't, I don't know.

[22:36] Noah Guthrie: But um he carried himself very well, he looked like he knew what he was doing. Um his hair was majestic.

[22:42] Marshall Williams)): Um great.

[22:44] Noah Guthrie: It was, it was beautiful. Yeah, it was. Uh but yeah, I mean, you know, I I just think it's one of those things you just never know in this business, right? Um, and right he's obviously massively talented, and show is uh so is she.

[22:58] Marshall Williams)): Um I actually just covered um her uh what was I made for song on my live stream last night because I was just like, man, this song is so good. It's just like it's she just absolutely knocked it out of the park with that one.

[23:11] Noah Guthrie: So um and I love what you did with the cover as well. I think that you you breathed a new life into it.

[23:17] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[23:18] Noah Guthrie: Um and then from also this episode, there was a big plot line about um Noah your c your character climbing a rope. And we have a a question uh from one of our listeners, Squirliosa. What was it like climbing that rope in the episode?

[23:34] Noah Guthrie: Terrible. Uh it was terrible. It was terrible. Um because it's one of those things that you did. You had to be mean to me.

[23:42] Marshall Williams)): I had to be mean to you a little bit.

[23:44] Noah Guthrie: Um yeah, I had to like scream at you at one point. Um but it was mostly just the rope climbing in general. I when I first got that script, um I need to go back and find all my scripts. I have them somewhere, but um when I first got that when I remember like reading over it in the trailer and and just kind of immediately getting a little queasy.

[24:07] Noah Guthrie: Um, because one, I didn't know how they wanted to do that. I didn't know if you know, you know, I knew obviously that I probably wouldn't have to like flat out climb this rope. Um, but I didn't, I was just a little nervous about it because that's like I mean, that's something I couldn't do today. I just can't. That's something I definitely cannot do. Couldn't do it in high school.

[24:26] Marshall Williams)): Um and how much of it was you climbing the rope?

[24:30] Noah Guthrie: Oh, almost watching almost none. I mean, like maybe a little at the end of the yeah, no, no, no. He he did it, he did it. A little. But like I was there, I was there.

[24:38] Marshall Williams)): He did the whole thing.

[24:40] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, I did top to bottom, over and over. Every single day.

[24:44] Marshall Williams)): Okay.

[24:44] Noah Guthrie: But no, it was it was weird because it was um, you know, I was in a harness, and uh the harness is never gonna fit you right, I don't think.

[24:54] Noah Guthrie: Um, and it was just like super uncomfortable and they're hoisting me up, you know. But it was mainly making it look anywhere near a realistic rope climbing. Um, because it was like I didn't think about, you know, you're moving your arms and stuff, but like also you have to move your feet, and I didn't think about that really, because again, never climbed a rope.

[25:16] Noah Guthrie: Um and I just remember having to do it a few different times because they were like, no, you gotta like get you know, get your legs into it. I'm like, well, I'm also the problem with being in the harness was like you're not up against the rope the way you would be if you were climbing it, if that makes sense.

[25:33] Noah Guthrie: So like in the harness, you're like here's the rope, you're gonna swing back from it just a touch, right? So you have to kind of like get it like on your body through your legs and make it look like you're on it, climbing it, right? I just couldn't get that, I guess. Um so I remember having to do it a few times, but um, you know, it was it was something now I can look back and be like, yeah, that's fun.

[25:58] Noah Guthrie: Uh, but on the day I was very nervous. Um, and I'd never been in any kind of like contraption like that. So um, I actually really enjoyed my scenes with Marshall beforehand. Um, I think we did all that beforehand, but um yeah, we had the uh we had like a confrontation, dialogue and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I really liked any scene that I had with you, honestly, because it was just it was just fun. Um, and it was things I didn't uh they were fun, but yeah, you know, it was it was definitely a crucial episode for for my character for Roderick. I still can't believe you guys called me an agent of chaos.

[26:35] Marshall Williams)): Well, I don't, you know, we probably didn't go you're right to the action of chaos. We didn't say that. I just remember you were just always the script right there. You always had a joke. You always were grinning ear to ear over something, and if you were grinning, it's because you did something or you said something. You planted a seed somewhere. And I think that you, you know, you might have blocked all that out, but uh you definitely were. Hey, I got you to climb that rope.

[27:01] Noah Guthrie: You did. You got my ass up the rope. You're right. That's cool. Um, I'd be remiss if I didn't share with you, Marshall, that on our podcast, we refer to your character very affectionately, I might add, as not like other gays is your nickname.

[27:18] Marshall Williams)): Sweet, cool.

[27:19] Noah Guthrie: So you have agent of chaos and not like other gays, because your character kind of just like annoyingly so is just like so like against the grain with being gay. So um all of our listeners uh refer to Spencer again, affectionately as not like other gays that I needed to share with you.

[27:41] Marshall Williams)): I love that.

[27:42] Noah Guthrie: But when it comes down to it, the competition, I believe both cat uh like votes on your end have been cast. The lose my breath versus give up the funk.

[27:51] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna give it to I know I know the first one is like you know, original season one, you know, stuff. I get it. But like, come on. I mean, we were season six. I'm gonna pull for the season six person.

[28:02] Noah Guthrie: Sure. Same for you, Marshall.

[28:04] Marshall Williams)): Okay.

[28:04] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, and even though Harry, he that was very also impressive, those splits he did.

[28:09] Marshall Williams)): Oh, yeah.

[28:10] Noah Guthrie: I was very impressed there. But also impressive, Josie doing the damn thing. Just nailing it. Just owning us. Um, moving on to our second competition. Let's see. Okay. Mercedes. Number. Okay. Probably great. Here we go.

[28:43] ♪ Musical number: "Try a Little Tenderness" — performed by Mercedes ♪

[30:44] Noah Guthrie: That's gonna be really hard to beat.

[30:46] Marshall Williams)): It really is.

[30:46] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, that's fine.

[30:47] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, that was really good.

[30:49] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[30:50] Marshall Williams)): And she's unreal.

[30:51] Noah Guthrie: Yeah. Unreal. No, Noah, you got to sing a duet with Amber in the final season, all about that base. Um, Marshall, I'm curious for you if there was anybody from like the OG cast that like you wish that you had uh the opportunity to sing a duet with.

[31:07] Marshall Williams)): Kevin.

[31:08] Noah Guthrie: Fun.

[31:09] Marshall Williams)): Yeah. I feel like that would have been a fun one.

[31:12] Noah Guthrie: That would have been very, very fun.

[31:13] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[31:15] Noah Guthrie: Like a like uh like the I guess the way that I would think about it where the the funness in the acting and performing, I think that that would happen. Not necessarily like um the funnest song. I don't know how to explain this. Like I think we would just have a really good time performing it together.

[31:34] Marshall Williams)): Yeah. I think that'd be fun. I feel like two agents of chaos, I would say.

[31:39] Noah Guthrie: I love it.

[31:39] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, we can have it.

[31:40] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[31:41] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[31:41] Noah Guthrie: Um when receiving the scripts ever, uh, did were you ever nervous about like singing a certain song?

[31:50] Marshall Williams)): Yes.

[31:51] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[31:51] Marshall Williams)): Okay. What songs every time?

[31:54] Noah Guthrie: Every single time.

[31:55] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[31:55] Noah Guthrie: Yeah. Um I think uh for for some of them, yeah, for sure. Um, I think you know, for me, it was there was a lot of excitement um in a lot of the songs picked, but they also gave me, you know, they gave me really, really awesome um like dream solo songs. Um and like my first ever one that I did was Mustang Sally. Um and that's great. That was like I may have said this last time, I don't know, but I that was um that song in particular was my uncle's like karaoke song forever. Um so I had heard it a million times, and I also was like a huge fan of Wilson Pickett, and um when I heard that I was gonna get to do that, I was really excited. Um, even though I can't I remember the studio session, it was either for that or no, I think it had to be that one because it was uh he was the engineer Alex was trying to get me to do some like screams like Wilson Pickett does on the original recording.

[33:06] Noah Guthrie: And for any of your listeners, if you don't know who I'm talking about with Wilson Pickett, just go look up Wilson Pickett and especially if you're a singer, it's it's unreal. He's he was absolutely incredible. Um, but he has this like crazy raspy voice um that I can get to, like I can get the rasp, but he had this other range that he would like kick up into effortlessly, and he would do all these crazy screams. Um I was in the session trying my hardest to get there. Uh, and I just couldn't do it. I could do cool stuff, like I could do my own thing. Um, but they were pretty, I mean, they what they would do, they would send out like a demo to you um the week before or sometimes the day before, um sometimes the day of.

Um they would send a demo to you, and you know, you would listen as much as you could and try to learn it. But they they at least on my end, they really wanted you to stick to the way the demo singer was doing it as as much as possible because they just had a very I think there was such a visual component in their head for it too, like they knew like when he goes to this note, we're gonna show this probably.

[34:21] Marshall Williams)): Um there's so many lines, yeah, yeah.

[34:24] Noah Guthrie: Exactly. So for that one, uh, we were in the studio and I would it was probably the longer session that I'd had there. And I just couldn't do it. I was just I mean, I was getting everything else. I was like, man, I just can't I can't get that kind of scream. One, I'm gonna like ruin my voice. Like it's it's unless unless you know how to do it properly, you can really hurt yourself. Um I was like, I can literally I can get you like 99% of the way there. Um and he was just really tough on me for a little while. Uh and then eventually I was just like, Yeah, you can't get blood from a stone, dude. Like I can't, I can't be Wilson Pickett, and I also can't be this guy on the recording. Um, which I used to know who might we all had like our own demo singers that would like be the purple person that did my stuff and the stuff that didn't Marshall's stuff.

And I cannot remember his name, but he I remember he had his own, he has his own career uh as a singer. These he's just unbelievable. Um but anyway, it was it was a lot. I don't know if I don't think I was like ever super nervous just because that's what I did before. You know, that felt like, oh, this is what I actually do. I'll come in here and do this. Um But yeah, I mean it was when you're given really good material and good songs to cover, uh, there is always like a pressure for sure. Um because you want to get it right. Like how how how good are you gonna be in comparison to that? I feel like that's always the like and and what are you gonna get? Uh I I remember uh doing that uh like well, not the same as uh Pickett, but uh got some really good vocal coaching tips where uh it was like how to throw your voice across the room and whatnot, because um I I did a lot of singing before, but I've never been in singing lessons or anything like that. Um but it was really cool to have some professional guidance on that at the same time because then you can hit things that you couldn't have hit before.

[36:20] Marshall Williams)): And I feel like that's a lot of my nerves before where I was like, how am I supposed to hit that? And then uh I re I think it was Alex that uh got us to be able to hit it, or it got me to be able to hit it. It was he was awesome to work with, yeah.

[36:33] Noah Guthrie: That's what I've heard from talking to folks from the show is that Alex seems to really be very um specific and it was and sometimes hard on on y'all to get the uh

[36:33] Marshall Williams)): It was, but I mean he knew what he wanted and he knew what he had to get too. That's the other thing is like the first couple sessions I had with Alex, um, I think we hit it off right away as far as personality goes. Like we we just liked each other and we were easy to work with, but um I think I had to realize, oh right, he's not kind of the end all be all or be all end all or however you say that to this one thing, you know, like he has someone he has to give this to, and they wanted a super specific way. Um and he knew how to to get you there. Um but I think that you know, in my case, like so with something like where I couldn't do those screams. I think that was probably more of a thing, like he wasn't you know, mad at me for not being able to do it.

He was probably thinking ahead, like, okay, I'm gonna have to like either figure out a way to get a scream in here or like just tell them like, hey, we had to do we had to change it this much, you know, or whatever, and hope that they're okay with it. Because there was so much of that, you know, nothing at least in my experience, so much of of every little minute detail would get, you know, sent off to Ryan or or whoever was approving that stuff. Um so you know, if it wasn't the way he wanted it, then you had to redo it. So luckily I knew coaching that I think I had to.

[38:05] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, he was he was great.

[38:06] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, great at coaching of like yeah, like almost like directing in the same way where um different things work for different actors, uh whatever working out anything like choose and whatnot. Um but if you didn't understand what he was talking about, then finding a different way to articulate it for you.

[38:27] Noah Guthrie: So like uh the the directing aspect or the coaching aspect of that was uh great.

[38:32] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, 100%. I'm curious when the final product is released, or like you know, I know that you do a lot of covers on your YouTube and everything. D do you ever hear from the original artists like their opinions of the song?

[38:47] Noah Guthrie: It used to be so I don't do it as much anymore, so I don't really hear much anymore. When I used to do it hardcore, every now and again, you know, you'd get a retweet or you'd get like a yeah, you know, so every now and again I had some people that would be like, hey, you did a really great job. Thank you to a great job on my song. Thanks for covering it, you know. But that was usually in the form of like a direct message or whatever. But no, I mean, again, I've, you know, for the last since Glee, really, I've been so focused on the original stuff that when I do a cover, it's kind of I do it either for a specific reason or it's like on like I have a live stream that I do every, you know, week when it's when I can do it every week.

And I put a lot of covers in there just because it's a way that I can still do that without having to fully commit to it all the time. But yeah, I mean, you know, I'm always trying to put my own spin on stuff when I do that. And it is always it's really nice when you get some recognition from somebody, but it's been a while. But again, I haven't really been like actively pursuing the cover stuff.

[39:52] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, from your original side, I love Let the Damn Thing Break.

[39:55] Noah Guthrie: Oh, thank you. Man, thanks so much. Yeah, I mean that's great. Yeah, that was I was angry and I wrote that and it came across. Yeah, good, great. But yeah, that's awesome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[40:10] Marshall Williams)): Yeah. Um back to the Glacket, however, what we're all here to do.

[40:14] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, um, try a little tenderness. Do we have any final notes on that song before we see what it's against? Other than just I really think she nailed it. I mean, that's like I got no notes. I also don't know, I don't know this for sure. It seemed like they probably raised the key of that song, or at least from the original. Um I that's hard to do in general, but you know, she's got that incredible range, so yeah, she's amazing.

[40:42] Marshall Williams)): Uh against try a little tenderness. Here we go.

[40:44] Noah Guthrie: Here we go.

[40:51] ♪ Musical number: "Stop! In the Name of Love" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[43:01] Marshall Williams)): Do we have any immediate reactions?

[43:06] Noah Guthrie: Um Kevin giving it 110%, of course.

[43:10] Marshall Williams)): Always as always. He's our shining star. Um I think I don't know. I don't know that you can beat try a little tenderness. I that was I think we're all on the same page. I mean, they did great, but that's like Amber just blew it out of the water. The second one made me really happy seeing Dot and everyone.

[43:34] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[43:35] Marshall Williams)): Which by good like happy feelings, but performance. I really like Amber's.

[43:41] Noah Guthrie: Yeah. I'll tell you what, just as a side note, real quick. Any chance that I can to talk up Dot Jones, she's truly like she is an angel on earth. She's just so great. I get so many texts out of the blue from her just wishing me well and like, you know, wanting the best for me. And she's just such a good friend. So yeah, any chance anyone can support Dot Marie Jones, do it. She's amazing.

[44:09] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[44:10] Noah Guthrie: I mean from everyone that I've heard that Dot is an incredible person also I mean like sweet art. And on top of that, just like one of the best actors on the show or just generally just always blown away by all of her scenes. So and she's also just like she's kind of she's got that like mama bear mentality sometimes where like if you're if you're one of hers, you're one of hers, you know um she's gonna go to bat for you. She's really really great.

[44:37] Marshall Williams)): That's sweet. Um I'm not sure if you guys have seen this online but there are a number of AI generated Glee covers. And so like some of them are using like your voices and just like kind of like pseudo making like new Glee music just weird. Using AI I'm curious if have you seen any of this what do you make of it?

[45:01] Noah Guthrie: It sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Um you know I think man what to say about AI. Um I know a really heavy well it's just there's there's so much right there's so much to unpack with it. Um and I think especially in art and music um there's there's a ton and I'm definitely not like anti AI. I've dabbled with it a few times too I find it's really helpful to help me get creative ideas out of my head um before I make them into something permanent, or you know, and that's more like if I'm using it for like a visual reference or something. But I don't know.

[45:42] Marshall Williams)): Uh I would like to hear them.

[45:44] Noah Guthrie: Uh because I think because I mean every any like I love it when I'm on TikTok or something and I find like one of those commercials that's been totally AI made or whatever, and it's just the most insane thing possible. Uh so I would love to hear them. Um as far as like I don't know how they can use like likenesses and voices and stuff. I don't know where that falls.

[46:10] Marshall Williams)): Um I will say that for like right now, like listening to a Noah Guthrie AI version, it sounds like maybe like 70% you, but then 30% I'm like caught. That's not him. Um but I mean, like it's scary to think of like in just a few short years, like we're gonna reach that a hundred percent.

[46:32] Noah Guthrie: Well, I mean, we're already, you know, the battle lines are already kind of drawn there, I think. That was a lot a big part of the strike, and um, you know, for good reason. I think there's a lot of crazy awesome innovation out there. Um, but I think it does need to be you know, reined in so that humans can use it the best way they possibly can.

[46:54] Marshall Williams)): Uh for good, yeah.

[46:56] Noah Guthrie: I think if uh the same way as uh Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter, if you want to get more into like the love of that series or uh that content and you're creating something that's for your own enjoyment or something like that, um go for it. But it I feel like uh there's a fine line between that. But I understand how people would want to get excited and um recreate more special things. Like you know, when a series ends or something and they're like, oh no, that's the end. Uh I've felt that way a lot. So if it's if it's something fun like that, but if uh if it's a business move, then hopefully uh they're yeah, you can't. It depends on how they're using it, you know.

[47:38] Marshall Williams)): Um because I can see how it could be very fun for you know a like Glee fan club to use it and just have fun with you know within their club, that's fantastic. Um nothing wrong with that.

[47:50] Noah Guthrie: And yeah, I mean I'm the amount of YouTube videos I've clicked on that are just some like lo-fi hip hop over some AI created Lord of the Rings thing. Yeah, I mean, I'm you know, I'm guilty of that. So like there's there's a time and place, I think.

[48:05] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, I want to be an L.

[48:06] Noah Guthrie: I want to be Legalist.

[48:08] Marshall Williams)): Exactly.

[48:08] Noah Guthrie: That's so cool.

[48:09] Marshall Williams)): Like shoot some arrows at some orcs and ride some what are they called?

[48:14] Noah Guthrie: Wargs?

[48:15] Marshall Williams)): Uh yeah, I mean he would you know he wouldn't ride the wargs, but yeah, there are wargs yet.

[48:19] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[48:19] Marshall Williams)): Um but but in my fan fiction, he does.

[48:23] Noah Guthrie: Well good. Well, see then then yeah, like you could make your own AI fan fiction where he rides the wargs.

[48:29] Marshall Williams)): Um but it's me.

[48:31] Noah Guthrie: Right.

[48:34] Marshall Williams)): Like the true agent of chaos you are.

[48:36] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, perfect. Singing Glee songs.

[48:39] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, yes, yes, bringing it back.

[48:42] Noah Guthrie: Yes. So I think that I mean the vote is obvious, I feel try a little tenderness versus this mashup.

[48:49] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, a hundred percent.

[48:50] Noah Guthrie: It's the Mercedes solo.

[48:52] Marshall Williams)): Okay. Going into our final competition.

[48:56] Noah Guthrie: Let's see.

[49:00] Marshall Williams)): Let's see if a song will even come out of here.

[49:02] Noah Guthrie: I really really love that ticket dispensary.

[49:05] Marshall Williams)): I do too. What does it say on it?

[49:06] Noah Guthrie: Big big quench.

[49:08] Marshall Williams)): Did you guys ever get slushied on the show?

[49:11] Noah Guthrie: Uh no, I don't think wait, did we? Did I I thought she's got a shot?

[49:19] Marshall Williams)): You may have.

[49:21] Noah Guthrie: Some one of us did, and I guess it wasn't me.

[49:26] Marshall Williams)): Uh it might have been you.

[49:28] Noah Guthrie: I don't know.

[49:30] Marshall Williams)): Well, I remember somebody getting something poured down their shirt.

[49:33] Noah Guthrie: I definitely remember that. Maybe did you slushy someone?

[49:37] Marshall Williams)): I don't think so.

[49:40] Noah Guthrie: Like on the show?

[49:41] Marshall Williams)): No.

[49:41] Noah Guthrie: In real life, maybe.

[49:43] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[49:44] Noah Guthrie: In real life, 24-2.

[49:46] Marshall Williams)): Um, okay. Our first song of our final competition.

[49:50] Noah Guthrie: Here we go.

[50:07] ♪ Musical number: "Footloose" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[52:07] Unknown speaker: I can't even see past you. I'm just smiling watching him.

[52:10] Unknown speaker: It's making it really difficult.

[52:12] Unknown speaker: I'm very biased.

[52:13] Unknown speaker: I bet they were so happy when they found out they were only wearing like black jeans and black t-shirts for that dance number.

[52:19] Unknown speaker: Yeah.

[52:19] Unknown speaker: Man.

[52:20] Unknown speaker: But all doing some some choreo.

[52:23] Unknown speaker: Oh yeah.

[52:23] Unknown speaker: What was what was your um relationship with with choreography and dancing and all that before being cast on Glee?

[52:31] Unknown speaker: Not good.

[52:32] Unknown speaker: Yeah, that's probably a that's a question for the question.

[52:35] Unknown speaker: Yeah.

[52:37] Unknown speaker: That's the a question for the Choreo team.

[52:39] Unknown speaker: Um they were I mean, I remember them being fantastic.

[52:42] Unknown speaker: They were, you know, really great people and um you know I remember I think probably the most like intense one we had was probably Uptown Funk um as far as like Choreo goes.

[53:00] Unknown speaker: I can't really remember all the other ones.

[53:03] Unknown speaker: Most of it I just I just like when when I think about the choreo I think of this room and then you sleeping with a blanket there and remember how to take pictures of you sleeping or I was just taking pictures of you like you were getting your gas one day.

[53:18] Unknown speaker: Oh but I I rem I don't know if I have the photo still but it's just like you looking all cute in this blanket laying on a bench or something waiting for yeah I can't remember yeah we must have had some downtime or something.

[53:30] Unknown speaker: Yeah um sorry I didn't mean to interrupt no that's I I'll forget otherwise I uh yeah so I think you know Uptown Funk had like the most like you know footwork of anything like actual dancing.

[53:45] Unknown speaker: But I think for you know they they were really good at figuring out who had dance skills and who did not um and who could benefit from um some well placed step touches you know that are just like easy to knock out uh as long as you can count you can do them and a lot of I think a lot of our choreo at least was like more walking um and maybe some twirls here and there.

[54:14] Unknown speaker: Yeah but you know I I did enjoy it.

[54:17] Unknown speaker: Um it always felt kind of like a workout class to me every time we would come to you know choreo because one I was uh very out of shape.

[54:27] Unknown speaker: Um and yeah, I mean it was it was fun.

[54:30] Unknown speaker: But I remember I think honestly, if there was something I was nervous for, it's probably that.

[54:33] Unknown speaker: Um and it was again some of that was like I don't want to look stupid, but you can't be that way.

[54:41] Unknown speaker: Um if one, if you're an actor, you can't really be that way.

[54:45] Unknown speaker: Um but I was still learning that, you know.

[54:48] Unknown speaker: Um it helped, I think.

[54:51] Unknown speaker: Uh helped crack that shell open a little bit.

[54:54] Unknown speaker: Uh yeah, the choreo, like I what was I like I played football before, so like my I'm good at footwork and whatnot, uh, where it's like specific steps, but I wasn't really used to like we'll say feeling my body in the steps.

[55:08] Unknown speaker: So uh I I was I was quite stiff on them.

[55:11] Unknown speaker: And if if you watch really closely, there's a lot of like cause I just remember this when I was watching the episodes way back.

[55:18] Unknown speaker: Uh whenever everyone's like doing a turn this way, I I get confused and I turn the other way.

[55:23] Unknown speaker: So if you watch me in the background, it's never like the foreground stuff because they don't use those those cuts.

[55:28] Unknown speaker: But when it's like on someone like one guy messed up, it's Marshall again.

[55:31] Unknown speaker: Did they ever have you do that on purpose?

[55:33] Unknown speaker: Did they ever like Noah?

[55:35] Unknown speaker: That was that was all me.

[55:37] Unknown speaker: That was actually part of my character that I designed and good.

[55:41] Unknown speaker: Of course.

[55:42] Unknown speaker: Yeah, yeah.

[55:42] Unknown speaker: Really important.

[55:43] Unknown speaker: Yes, yeah.

[55:45] Unknown speaker: It was a big episode where he really broke that that part of his character down.

[55:49] Unknown speaker: Yeah, yeah.

[55:51] Unknown speaker: Physically, emotionally, I that that was I pretty sure that was the reason for the broken ankle too.

[55:56] Unknown speaker: Oh, yeah.

[55:58] Unknown speaker: Man, I forgot about that.

[56:00] Unknown speaker: Oh my god.

[56:00] Unknown speaker: And then you're you're swinging from a chandelier later in the episode.

[56:06] Unknown speaker: I forgot we did that song.

[56:09] Unknown speaker: Oh man, that was fun.

[56:11] Unknown speaker: Was I even in that song?

[56:12] Unknown speaker: I don't know if I was.

[56:13] Unknown speaker: You're in a on stage, but you're not singing too much.

[56:18] Unknown speaker: Take me to church.

[56:19] Unknown speaker: Yeah for yeah.

[56:21] Unknown speaker: Yeah.

[56:21] Unknown speaker: I still get every s almost every show that I play someone.

[56:24] Unknown speaker: That was great.

[56:25] Unknown speaker: Asking me to do that.

[56:26] Unknown speaker: Last song of the episode against Falloose.

[56:30] Unknown speaker: This is I feel Agent of Chaos vibes.

[56:34] Unknown speaker: Very chaotic.

[56:35] Unknown speaker: Yeah.

[56:40] ♪ Musical number: "I Still Believe/Super Bass" — performed by Jane Lynch ♪

[59:13] Unknown speaker: Wow.

[59:15] Unknown speaker: I haven't seen that.

[59:17] Unknown speaker: From season four, like mid season four, so it's like deep in the archive.

[59:21] Unknown speaker: Uh do you have any reactions to I still believe mashed up with super bass?

[59:27] Unknown speaker: I mean, Jane Lynch is an inspiration.

[59:30] Unknown speaker: Um she's just God, she she was great.

[59:33] Unknown speaker: Um, also a very wonderful human.

[59:36] Unknown speaker: Um and I think uh I remember one time I was this has nothing to do with the performance, but it does have something to do with Jane Lynch.

[59:45] Unknown speaker: Um I was I think I was doing some grocery shopping or something on a day off, and I drove this really beat up uh Pontiac.

[59:55] Unknown speaker: Do you remember that car, Marshall?

[59:57] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, I do.

[59:57] Unknown speaker: No, remember remember the trunk?

[59:59] Marshall Williams)): Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:00:02] Unknown speaker: It was like milk or something.

[1:00:04] Unknown speaker: I'm oh man, it's like a sunburn.

[1:00:06] Unknown speaker: Dude, there was a bullet hole.

[1:00:08] Unknown speaker: Did you ever see the bullet hole in the window?

[1:00:11] Marshall Williams)): I didn't know I didn't.

[1:00:12] Unknown speaker: I don't think I noticed it until I got back home uh after we were shooting.

[1:00:17] Marshall Williams)): Oh, wow.

[1:00:18] Unknown speaker: There was a literal bullet hole in the window.

[1:00:20] Unknown speaker: Um yeah, so I I drove this like old 1998 Pontiac Sunfire convertible.

[1:00:27] Unknown speaker: And I I literally bought it like while I was out there.

[1:00:31] Unknown speaker: Yeah, it was yeah, we called it the teal breeze.

[1:00:35] Unknown speaker: And it had this giant like aged sunspot on the hood and everything.

[1:00:41] Unknown speaker: Like, I mean, it was it was it was a piece of crap, man.

[1:00:44] Unknown speaker: But it was a fun car, and I bought it, you know, just to have something while I was out there.

[1:00:51] Unknown speaker: And I remember parking it like on the lot in the line of of amazing Land Rovers and Teslas and like all this stuff.

[1:01:01] Unknown speaker: Yeah.

[1:01:01] Unknown speaker: Um but so eventually everyone knew that that was my car.

[1:01:05] Unknown speaker: And so I was running some groceries or I was getting some groceries someday, and uh I had gotten turned around.

[1:01:12] Unknown speaker: I didn't know where I was, and I was like, I pulled over for a second to look at the map and like figure out where I was.

[1:01:18] Unknown speaker: Um and all of a sudden, this tiny Volkswagen convertible comes zipping around the corner.

[1:01:27] Unknown speaker: Um I was in like an alleyway like a like you know how in Los Angeles they have all the like a lot of the buildings have like alleys behind the homes and stuff that you can get to.

[1:01:36] Unknown speaker: Um so I was in one of those and this little convertible comes screaming around the corner and slams on the brakes right in front of me and like blocks me in.

[1:01:47] Unknown speaker: Um and I was like this is really weird.

[1:01:49] Unknown speaker: I don't know what to do.

[1:01:51] Unknown speaker: Uh and eventually rolled down the window and it's Jane Lynch.

[1:01:56] Unknown speaker: She's just like hey what are you doing out here?

[1:02:00] Unknown speaker: And I was just like I'm I'm lost and she's like all right and just spit off didn't help didn't do anything.

[1:02:09] Unknown speaker: See ya.

[1:02:11] Unknown speaker: Uh so I just I don't know I'll always remember that really random memory uh and that car man I I do kind of miss that car to be honest.

[1:02:18] Marshall Williams)): Um that was a wicked car.

[1:02:20] Unknown speaker: Yeah it was a great car.

[1:02:22] Unknown speaker: I loved it.

[1:02:22] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[1:02:23] Unknown speaker: I love that story.

[1:02:24] Unknown speaker: Thank you so much for sharing I mean you know has nothing to do with anything.

[1:02:27] Unknown speaker: I'll just always remember Jane Lynch not helping me with directions and just leaving me Jane Lynch being the through line.

[1:02:34] Unknown speaker: Jane Lynch is given something really insane to do in this performance being I guess a pseudo Nicki Minaj.

[1:02:48] Unknown speaker: Like the most insane things probably the the chandelier one for for me definitely but you're always looking for those like uh there's anything in this book.

[1:03:01] Unknown speaker: Yeah.

[1:03:02] Unknown speaker: Open up the book.

[1:03:03] Unknown speaker: Oh, yeah, yeah.

[1:03:04] Unknown speaker: Open the book.

[1:03:04] Unknown speaker: I remember doing uh my first scene ever on Glee with uh Jane and and she was so great to be like introduced into the like very warm welcoming and like we had to do a funny scene too so it was awesome doing it with her.

[1:03:18] Unknown speaker: It was uh that Tom Brady flashlight scene.

[1:03:21] Unknown speaker: Right yeah it was a Tom Brady flashlight yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm pretty sure anyways or no no uh did I no she said Tom Brady play yeah yeah yeah that was like a we were negotiating at the table to bribe you yes I mean that aside I feel like I would have been like wildly intimidated to because that scene was just you and Jane and so and I would assume early on in your time on the show as well how did you approach that yeah no that's exactly how I felt and like that's why she was so awesome to to work with on that it was like a really soft introduction for a difficult scene for me working with a really talented actor.

[1:04:05] Unknown speaker: Yeah yeah yeah I think um the book has not really helped but um for me honestly it really would have been probably my my first scene um because my first scene was with most of the senior cast um and I didn't get a script.

[1:04:23] Unknown speaker: Well no I did get a script but it was like super last minute it was like literally the day I flew into Los Angeles um and that I was I was a wreck for I was so nervous for that um and it was like me in the library you know where they all kind of come and find me singing yeah sad or something I remember I think I was like sad and I was like singing this song and and um they came and found me and I mean that that was like I I had no idea what I was doing, you know, like I I literally did not know what to do.

[1:05:01] Noah Guthrie: Um, I didn't know what anything meant. I didn't know, you know, like you have all this like jargon and stuff that's on set that everybody's screaming at one another, and I'm like, I don't know what do I do. Do I just like what do I do? What's what's in my love? Um, yeah, you know, and like I didn't know a lot of that scene I had to it it was always awkward. Maybe Marshall, I don't know if you you probably had some scenes like this, but it was always awkward when the scene was more about the look you were giving someone than it was the dialogue. Um, so like I had a a little bit of dialogue in that scene, but most of it was like hearing all these other cast members talk to me and convince me to join the Glee Club and I just had they had to capture me giving a, you know, pensive look or like some kind of like just I'm literally looking at Yes, yes, it's like always something like that.

And I didn't know how to do that, you know, first first day. I had no idea. I was like, I mean, I think I'm changing the way my face looks right now. How does my face look? Um, But I remember having to be told several times, you know, that you know, I had to um do the scariest thing, which was make direct eye contact uh with Diana Agron. And I was just like, wow, oh my god, I don't know. I don't know if I can stare it into her eyes for so long. She's staring into my eyes. I don't know what to do. Um, but it was, you know, it was just a nerve wracking day.

[1:06:37] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, yeah.

[1:06:38] Noah Guthrie: It was nerve wracking, and and you know, just everybody was in the room, and it was like a really quick um, hey, I'm Noah, I'm working with you guys this season kind of deal. Hope you don't hate me, you know.

[1:06:49] Um, and it went fine. It was just I had no idea what to do. And I was by myself, you know, like it wasn't it was literally I was the only new person on that set that day. Um, and everybody was great, you know, everybody was very welcoming to me. But it was it was weird.

[1:07:07] Noah Guthrie: I think I still I sometimes still have uh dreams about it. Um, not necessarily not necessarily in like a I need to unpack this in some kind of way, but I do, you know, every now and again. I'm like if it's a stress dream.

[1:07:19] Marshall Williams)): Sure.

[1:07:20] Noah Guthrie: It's weird.

[1:07:20] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[1:07:20] Noah Guthrie: No, I feel the same way. I mean, like, even like right now, like even getting into this recording, I'm like nervous to talk to people that were on my favorite television show. But just like being surrounded and like being, I guess, across from Jane Lynch for you, Marshall, or I guess like the entire OG cast for you, Noah is just like with y'all, it's just like you are providing me with such like levity that it's like, okay, I can like leave the nerves behind in a sense. They're not like necessary here.

[1:07:48] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[1:07:50] Noah Guthrie: And I mean, you know, they're all just people, you know.

[1:07:52] Marshall Williams)): It's it's right.

[1:07:53] Noah Guthrie: Exactly. They're all just people. Um, it was just like I think my whole thing was just I didn't want to. It was more like I didn't want to waste anyone else's time, you know.

[1:08:01] Um, because it is, it's such a there's a lot of hurry up and wait in in TV.

[1:08:08] Marshall Williams)): Um, but that day, you know, I just I just didn't want to be the reason we were waiting.

[1:08:14] Noah Guthrie: Uh, so it was it was just interesting.

[1:08:16] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:08:17] Noah Guthrie: Um, do you all do you ever go back and watch the show? Clips or full episodes or anything?

[1:08:21] Marshall Williams)): I haven't in a while.

[1:08:25] Noah Guthrie: No, no.

[1:08:26] Marshall Williams)): Like I'll I'll like every once in a while, like someone'll tag me and something and then it'll pop up on your feed or something like that.

[1:08:32] Noah Guthrie: Or I'll I feel like I haven't done it for a while, but I used to wish people happy birthday.

[1:08:37] Marshall Williams)): I feel like I did it to you, know what it's not their birthday.

[1:08:42] Noah Guthrie: My birthday is coming.

[1:08:44] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[1:08:45] Noah Guthrie: Oh, right.

[1:08:46] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[1:08:46] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[1:08:49] Marshall Williams)): Wait, so you would just like text people.

[1:08:51] Noah Guthrie: Wait, what are you doing?

[1:08:51] Marshall Williams)): No, no, no.

[1:08:52] Noah Guthrie: Like on Twitter.

[1:08:53] Marshall Williams)): I used to be like way more active on Twitter where I just like uh like I I don't know if it was be trolling or not. But I would just say happy birthday, Billy, when the show is on, and then everyone would wish him happy birthday, and then you'd get annoyed.

[1:09:07] Noah Guthrie: I don't kind of like that birthday.

[1:09:08] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, I thought it was not my birthday.

[1:09:10] Noah Guthrie: That's probably an agent of chaos thing.

[1:09:12] Marshall Williams)): It is.

[1:09:13] Noah Guthrie: You did that kind of stuff.

[1:09:14] Marshall Williams)): It was that same chaos all the time you would do that kind of stuff.

[1:09:19] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[1:09:20] Marshall Williams)): I loved it.

[1:09:20] Noah Guthrie: It was great.

[1:09:23] Marshall Williams)): Um our final competition of the Glacket being between Footloose and I still believe mashed up with super bass.

[1:09:29] Noah Guthrie: Okay. Do you feel confident in choosing a winner?

[1:09:34] Marshall Williams)): Um I really like Footloose. Like, I like the song.

[1:09:39] Noah Guthrie: Um I think I gotta go with the the like I'm so torn because I really like seeing Jane there.

[1:09:48] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[1:09:48] Noah Guthrie: But I'm gonna have to go with uh the footloose one.

[1:09:51] Marshall Williams)): Well, so what happens if I disagree? What do we do?

[1:09:53] Noah Guthrie: Anything here.

[1:09:54] Marshall Williams)): No, we find the death.

[1:09:56] Noah Guthrie: Oh, right.

[1:09:56] Marshall Williams)): No, there's three.

[1:09:58] Noah Guthrie: No, no, no.

[1:10:00] Marshall Williams)): That's right.

[1:10:00] Noah Guthrie: We do fight to the death.

[1:10:03] Marshall Williams)): Verbally.

[1:10:04] Noah Guthrie: Right.

[1:10:04] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, we just insult each other until we cry.

[1:10:06] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[1:10:07] Marshall Williams)): Um first one to tears loses.

[1:10:09] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[1:10:10] Marshall Williams)): Um I think I'm probably gonna go with the superbass one.

[1:10:15] Noah Guthrie: Just because I I don't know. I just I God I liked it more.

[1:10:18] Marshall Williams)): Okay.

[1:10:19] Noah Guthrie: Super bass it is.

[1:10:20] Marshall Williams)): I was like, the Gleeks will be very upset if it if it sways in in Footloose's favor.

[1:10:26] Noah Guthrie: So I don't want a mob, you know.

[1:10:28] Marshall Williams)): I'm not looking for that.

[1:10:30] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, meaning I actually I changed my appearance.

[1:10:33] Marshall Williams)): You know what?

[1:10:34] Noah Guthrie: You guys are so right.

[1:10:35] Marshall Williams)): No, that's what you said initially, right?

[1:10:36] Noah Guthrie: You said you said superbass.

[1:10:38] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[1:10:39] Noah Guthrie: No.

[1:10:39] Marshall Williams)): Oh, did I?

[1:10:40] Noah Guthrie: Okay, nice.

[1:10:41] Marshall Williams)): I got confused.

[1:10:42] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[1:10:42] Marshall Williams)): Uh oh yeah.

[1:10:43] Noah Guthrie: Uh where am I?

[1:10:44] Marshall Williams)): Uh I think we all really really liked Superbass, right?

[1:10:47] Noah Guthrie: Backwards in Mexico.

[1:10:48] Marshall Williams)): It just I got really confused in different hemisphere.

[1:10:52] Noah Guthrie: Um that concludes the damn episode.

[1:10:56] Marshall Williams)): Um I would love to know.

[1:10:58] Noah Guthrie: Uh, I guess if if a glee boot were to happen, would you be down?

[1:11:04] Marshall Williams)): Um what songs would you want to be singing if if Glee were to be coming back?

[1:11:10] Noah Guthrie: Wow.

[1:11:10] Marshall Williams)): That’s hard.

[1:11:12] Noah Guthrie: That is really hard.

[1:11:13] Marshall Williams)): I'm trying to think of what Glee would probably do.

[1:11:16] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, I mean, I I would I'd probably be down for it.

[1:11:19] Marshall Williams)): Um I think it would be.

[1:11:21] Noah Guthrie: You think we could still be students?

[1:11:22] Marshall Williams)): Oh, no.

[1:11:23] Noah Guthrie: Well, no, they ended like every year, and he's still ten years later.

[1:11:28] Marshall Williams)): He's still in grave.

[1:11:29] Noah Guthrie: Well, didn't we like um there was like a we shot a uh like an after scene kind of right?

[1:11:36] Marshall Williams)): Like uh Yes, yeah, right.

[1:11:38] Noah Guthrie: The last scene of the show takes place in 2020, and we all are in yeah, very weird.

[1:11:45] Marshall Williams)): It's like the entire cast in like a a super spreader event, I suppose you would look back at now.

[1:11:51] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[1:11:52] Marshall Williams)): It should pick up just like that.

[1:11:54] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, it should pick up exactly like that.

[1:11:57] Marshall Williams)): Right.

[1:11:59] Noah Guthrie: Turns out the glee cast caused COVID.

[1:12:02] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[1:12:02] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[1:12:03] Marshall Williams)): Or they have to be like in lockdown together.

[1:12:05] Noah Guthrie: Um, that would be bad.

[1:12:07] Marshall Williams)): That's probably some that's some fanfic though, right there.

[1:12:10] Noah Guthrie: You know, people.

[1:12:11] Marshall Williams)): Let's AI it's that up.

[1:12:13] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[1:12:13] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[1:12:15] Noah Guthrie: Let's get AI on the job.

[1:12:15] Marshall Williams)): Um one of our listeners, Bella had a specific question in line with that.

[1:12:21] Noah Guthrie: Um, for you, Noah.

[1:12:21] Marshall Williams)): If there was a folk or like indie themed episode, what songs would you want to be in there?

[1:12:28] Noah Guthrie: Louise.

[1:12:29] Marshall Williams)): Um well, I think you gotta have some Woody Guthrie in there.

[1:12:34] Noah Guthrie: Um, at least um, you know, This Land is your land. I know that's like not it's not like the most banger of a song, probably.

[1:12:41] Marshall Williams)): Um, but it is like but it feels glee.

[1:12:44] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, I mean, they could make it glee, and also I mean it's a super important song.

[1:12:47] Marshall Williams)): Um, and it that it is you know, some of the beginnings of folk.

[1:12:52] Noah Guthrie: Um, so I think you'd have to cover some of that.

[1:12:55] Marshall Williams)): Um, I think you could probably do let me think here.

[1:13:03] Noah Guthrie: I think you could do this.

[1:13:05] Marshall Williams)): Isn't I don't know if you'd say this is folk, it's probably more on the country side of things, but I mean Tyler Childers would be probably a good fit for the show.

[1:13:11] Noah Guthrie: Oh, wicked.

[1:13:12] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, because you could do some some cool stuff there.

[1:13:15] Noah Guthrie: Uh you'd cover that well too.

[1:13:17] Marshall Williams)): It'd be fun.

[1:13:18] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, I'll do it.

[1:13:19] Marshall Williams)): Um, but yeah, I mean, there's or if you want to just go straight up like songwriting-wise, gotta get John Prime on, you know, any anything that John Prime wrote, then you're there.

[1:13:30] Noah Guthrie: So um I have to to share with you, Noah, that last time I asked you this question, you said the joke by Brandy Carlyle.

[1:13:39] Marshall Williams)): And I didn't I didn't know that song when you shared it with me.

[1:13:43] Noah Guthrie: I went and listened to it, immediate fan of all things Brandy.

[1:13:47] Marshall Williams)): Went to go see your at MSG because of you.

[1:13:52] Noah Guthrie: So your impact.

[1:13:53] Marshall Williams)): Good.

[1:13:54] Noah Guthrie: Great.

[1:13:54] Marshall Williams)): I'm so glad that you did that.

[1:13:55] Noah Guthrie: Because I mean I hon I think I I honestly almost said that again.

[1:14:00] Marshall Williams)): Um because it's like I think if there was a song that should be on Glee, it's probably that one.

[1:14:09] Noah Guthrie: Um, I don't know, I'd have to really dive into the lyrics of it again, but maybe it would be cool to hear it from a male's perspective on Glee or something like that.

[1:14:23] Marshall Williams)): I think could be really cool, and I would be honored to sing it.

[1:14:28] Noah Guthrie: I mean, I think honestly, like Brandy is doing some of the best work out there right now.

[1:14:33] Marshall Williams)): Um I just think that that song in particular is just like so tailor-made for the content of the show.

[1:14:41] Noah Guthrie: I'm so glad that you're a Brandy fan now.

[1:14:42] Marshall Williams)): That's great.

[1:14:43] Noah Guthrie: Yeah.

[1:14:44] Marshall Williams)): I'm part of the they call the the Bramley, I believe is what the comment.

[1:14:49] Noah Guthrie: Um Marshall, are there any like specific songs that you would have liked to have done?

[1:14:53] Marshall Williams)): Off the top of my head if it's in the same area, like anything by Jason Isbell.

[1:14:58] Noah Guthrie: But uh unbelievable.

[1:15:01] Marshall Williams)): Um it would almost be too uh it'd be like too heartfelt almost, which doesn't seem possible, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:15:11] Noah Guthrie: It would break it.

[1:15:13] Marshall Williams)): Yeah.

[1:15:14] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, like I I feel like the same kind of realm.

[1:15:16] Marshall Williams)): I will need to again, just like last time, need to do some deep diving.

[1:15:20] Noah Guthrie: And I'll get back to the street.

[1:15:21] Marshall Williams)): Or the tragically hit.

[1:15:22] Noah Guthrie: Tragically hip.

[1:15:23] Marshall Williams)): The tragically hit the Canadian done.

[1:15:25] Noah Guthrie: Do you know?

[1:15:25] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, yeah.

[1:15:26] Noah Guthrie: Sweet.

[1:15:26] Marshall Williams)): Hell yeah.

[1:15:27] Noah Guthrie: Adding to the list for me.

[1:15:28] Marshall Williams)): If you're diving into Jason Isbull, get ready.

[1:15:30] Noah Guthrie: You're gonna you're gonna be sad.

[1:15:32] Marshall Williams)): But boy, it's okay.

[1:15:33] Noah Guthrie: Sorry, I'm ready.

[1:15:34] Marshall Williams)): It's good.

[1:15:35] Noah Guthrie: It's really great song, right here.

[1:15:37] Marshall Williams)): Um, well, thank you both for being our Gleeks this week.

[1:15:41] Noah Guthrie: Yeah, thank you.

[1:15:42] Marshall Williams)): I would love for all of our listeners to find all the great things that you're doing.

[1:15:46] Noah Guthrie: Um, Marshall, where can they do that?

[1:15:48] Marshall Williams)): Uh all my social accounts are at it's Marshall W. Um, I've released a couple songs on Spotify now too. Same name, Marshall Williams).

[1:15:57] Noah Guthrie: Uh that's it.

[1:15:58] Marshall Williams)): Incredible.

[1:15:59] Noah Guthrie: Noah, how about you?

[1:16:00] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, uh, so only one Noah is the Instagram uh Noah, let's see, NoahGuthrie.music, I think is TikTok.

[1:16:09] Noah Guthrie: Um I do have some new music as well on Spotify.

[1:16:15] Marshall Williams)): Um you can look that up for Noah Guthrie on Spotify.

[1:16:18] Noah Guthrie: You'll find a lot of covers, but you also find a lot of original stuff.

[1:16:21] Marshall Williams)): Uh Nightbird is one that I released recently.

[1:16:24] Noah Guthrie: Um also my band, Noah Guthrie and Good Trouble, um, have their own page on Spotify, and you can go listen to uh some new stuff we put out there.

[1:16:33] Marshall Williams)): I would recommend Rockstar and probably a good place to start uh to start.

[1:16:39] Noah Guthrie: And then I don't know when this is coming out, but if you're in the UK and if you're in Europe, uh I'm I'm gonna be touring.

[1:16:45] Marshall Williams)): Two weeks of now.

[1:16:46] Noah Guthrie: So I'll be there right in line.

[1:16:48] Marshall Williams)): Yeah, yeah.

[1:16:49] Noah Guthrie: Um so I think I'll be yeah, that's actually like right at the start.

[1:16:52] Marshall Williams)): So I'll be in the UK.

[1:16:54] Noah Guthrie: Um I think I start on the 28th in Manchester, and then I will be in Europe, uh, Germany, Netherlands, Paris.

[1:17:02] Marshall Williams)): Um, so yeah, come find me.

[1:17:04] Noah Guthrie: Uh all the dates are on NoahGuthrie.com.

[1:17:06] Marshall Williams)): UK Gleeks, you've got to come out.

[1:17:08] Noah Guthrie: Yes, you always do.

[1:17:09] Marshall Williams)): You'll not be disappointing.

[1:17:10] Noah Guthrie: You guys have been honestly, Gleeks have been very good to me.

[1:17:13] Marshall Williams)): Um, so I I really appreciate um everybody and all your listeners.

[1:17:17] Noah Guthrie: Me too.

[1:17:17] Marshall Williams)): Uh well I appreciate the both of you.

[1:17:19] Noah Guthrie: Thank you so much for being here.

[1:17:21] Marshall Williams)): And uh thanks everyone for listening.

[1:17:23] Noah Guthrie: And we'll be back with a new episode next week.