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[0:00] Andrew: We've got a mission to find the best song that's ever been on Glee.

[0:09] Andrew: There's no rhyme or reason to it, so don't get mad at me.

[0:18] Andrew: Glacket by Glacket, we'll rank everyone to see which song will move closer to spot number one.

[0:26] Andrew: Gleek of the Week, Gleek, Gleek, Gleek of the Week.

[0:32] Andrew: It's Gleek, Gleek of the Week.

[0:35] Andrew: Okay, so yeah, um, I don't even know what to even say at this point.

[0:39] Andrew: There's another episode that's happening right now.

[0:42] Andrew: You're listening to a recording of a podcast that is happening right now, and I'm joined by two other people that kind of are familiar with what we're gonna talk about, and one of them is Conor. Hi, Conor.

[0:56] Conor: Hola. How are you?

[0:58] Andrew: Oh, great. I feel like it's been so long. I've been really bad about booking Conor on this podcast in recent weeks, months.

[1:05] Conor: I really don't think that that's true. I mean, I feel like it was literally a couple of months ago that I was on this-

[1:10] Conor: weeks ago, sorry, that I was on this pod.

[1:13] Andrew: Your last episode was with the icon, the legend, the moment, Emily.

[1:17] Conor: Emily.

[1:18] Andrew: Yes, um, and people have been campaigning in the streets, uh, riots even, and they've been- they've been saying, we want to hear what he has to say about the Glackett, and so I'm really-

[1:30] Conor: Riots even. I have- I have seen those riots. I've seen them with my own eyes, and they're very moving to me.

[1:38] Andrew: But it's great to say.

[1:40] Conor: They're very moving. Wow, to have a riot about me.

[1:44] Andrew: Wow, what a gorgeous riot.

[1:47] Andrew: And similarly, riots have also been happening for the other guests this week to make a return, and so we can finally- these riots can finally be put to an end.

[1:58] Conor: Put down your swords.

[2:00] Andrew: Yeah, everyone chill, because it's happening.

[2:03] Brea: Brie is back. Hello, Brie.

[2:05] Brea: Hello. Yeah, these riots have got to stop. I lost my car and my house to these riots, and it's got to stop.

[2:12] Andrew: It needs to stop. Why are you attacking the- the person who you've been campaigning for, their property? That's crazy.

[2:19] Brea: Well, I started-

[2:20] Conor: No, he is on.

[2:22] Brea: I started the riot over Conor, and he started the riot over me, so we're both to blame, I think.

[2:28] Andrew: It's- it's getting out of control, but I'm really, really-

[2:30] Andrew: Wait, Brie, is the last time you were on this podcast with us on the livestream, or were you on more recently?

[2:35] Brea: No, I was on with Emily last time, too. We both are.

[2:38] Andrew: Oh, yes!

[2:40] Andrew: Our mutual friend, Emily, of course.

[2:42] Brea: Our mutual friend, who- Emily, I'm telling you, get home. The riots are over. Okay?

[2:48] Andrew: Emily, you can finally come outside in peace.

[2:51] Conor: Everyone's safe and alive.

[2:53] Andrew: Emily, Emily, put down that rock. Put down that rock.

[2:57] Brea: Emily, chill. Um, okay, so-

[3:01] Conor: Splinter's been like, what the fuck is happening?

[3:04] Brea: No, she is- she's- I've been seeing her. She's kind of been leading this entire- both riots.

[3:10] Conor: I don't know where she finds the time.

[3:13] Brea: It's because Sonala Mode is her secretary.

[3:15] Andrew: Oh, of course. We're just really building this universe.

[3:19] Brea: We're building the universe.

[3:22] Andrew: Okay, so speaking of-

[3:25] Brea: Shanice, get back inside.

[3:28] Conor: Shanice, we also have, like, Amon that is, like, out there as well.

[3:33] Brea: Who else? Who would be, like, a deep cut?

[3:37] Conor: Oh, God.

[3:38] Brea: We have Ali Stroker out there, and she's-

[3:41] Conor: Nikki Glonsky.

[3:43] Brea: Nikki Glonsky.

[3:43] Conor: She's been doing her cameos for a bit.

[3:45] Brea: Come on, Nikki Glonsky. Oh, God.

[3:47] Conor: Yeah.

[3:49] Andrew: I don't know.

[3:51] Andrew: Speaking of riots, speaking about being upset over things, you know what question I'm going to ask.

[3:55] Andrew: And I'm going to- who really wants to take it first?

[4:00] Andrew: This Glackett grievances.

[4:02] Andrew: Who feels more mad?

[4:05] Brea: I want to see you fight to take this.

[4:07] Conor: Audio medium, I feel like-

[4:09] Conor: Audio medium, maybe I'm just really bad at reading people's emotions.

[4:14] Andrew: I feel like Brea's got something to say based off of her facial reactions.

[4:18] Brea: No, I feel bad because I'm not as prepared as last time, and I can easily click on the Glackett up here, but then I feel like my image is going to go out, and you're going to be like, Oh no, Brea's gone once again.

[4:29] Conor: Do you want us to read you the Glackett like a bedtime story, and then you'd like interject and say like, No, yes.

[4:38] Brea: Okay.

[4:38] Brea: I mean, kind of, but we probably don't have time for that one.

[4:41] Conor: Yeah, that does seem really time consuming.

[4:44] Brea: I am going to look at it.

[4:45] Brea: Hold on.

[4:47] Brea: I know I got things.

[4:49] Brea: I know.

[4:50] Brea: I was very late to booking this episode.

[4:53] Conor: I just booked you like two days ago.

[4:55] Brea: Yeah, it was a whiplash, but it's kind of iconic.

[4:58] Brea: I just finished listening to last week's episode with Queen Claudia and King Ian.

[5:04] Brea: So that was an interesting experience in and of itself.

[5:07] Conor: It has to be said, but we'll circle back to that in a second.

[5:11] Andrew: Thank you.

[5:11] Brea: We'll get to that.

[5:13] Andrew: We'll get to that.

[5:14] Brea: We'll get to that.

[5:16] Brea: Okay.

[5:16] Brea: Yeah, this is pretty easy.

[5:17] Brea: I can start because I don't have much.

[5:20] Brea: Okay.

[5:21] Brea: A lot of these.

[5:21] Brea: I mean not to be boring with like a, you know, everyone said the same thing.

[5:26] Brea: It's like it's now season three.

[5:29] Brea: And so we're just happy.

[5:32] Brea: They made it here, you know, right express yourself without you.

[5:36] Brea: I'm sad about without you, but I don't know how I would have gone.

[5:40] Conor: Ooh, Broadway baby over applause.

[5:43] Brea: I don't like that, but I guess that's okay.

[5:46] Conor: Either do I I just I simply do not got it and I never will.

[5:50] Brea: Don't get it either.

[5:51] Brea: I never will.

[5:53] Brea: I never will never will never will chill.

[5:57] Conor: Ooh criminal human nature.

[5:59] Brea: That was just sad that they were up against each other.

[6:02] Conor: I totally would have gone for ice ice babies.

[6:05] Brea: They're not controversial for me.

[6:07] Conor: Oh, that's I'm glad that you agree with that because people have been pointing to that is like a big one that people are upset about and I'm like, okay.

[6:16] Brea: Yeah, yeah, they need to get a grip.

[6:22] Conor: Sorry, it's just we understand like the joke about Mr. Shoe wrapping, right?

[6:28] Brea: However, yeah, I size baby is the perfect song to have them do that too.

[6:33] Brea: Because we all know that's not a great song.

[6:35] Conor: It's a white dude.

[6:36] Brea: Right?

[6:36] Conor: Yes, cringe-worthy.

[6:37] Brea: I exactly and then the one they split up into their little dance moves having fun in the choir room where they have like half of them doing that one move and half of them doing the other.

[6:45] Brea: It brings me joy every time.

[6:47] Conor: I love it.

[6:48] Conor: Yeah, exactly.

[6:49] Conor: Word to your mother, right?

[6:52] Brea: And we already have now we already have the original keep holding on in season in season 4 of the class.

[6:59] Conor: Exactly.

[7:00] Conor: Let's make decisions here about what what keeping whole keep holding on.

[7:05] Brea: We want to keep holding on to, you know, being holding on.

[7:09] Conor: Yes.

[7:09] Brea: Yes, keeping holding on.

[7:11] Brea: Yeah, keep holding on to that stupid.

[7:14] Conor: Ooh, blame it on the alcohol.

[7:15] Brea: It's not unusual.

[7:16] Brea: I am famously not a blame girl, but I love it's not unusual.

[7:20] Conor: So that's a bummer but it's okay.

[7:22] Brea: It's okay.

[7:24] Brea: It's not right, but it's okay.

[7:27] Conor: It might be right though.

[7:29] Brea: So it's like double.

[7:30] Conor: Okay.

[7:30] Conor: Yes, Darren.

[7:32] Conor: Chris deserves an award for that delivery on I'm genuinely being serious.

[7:37] Brea: It's not right.

[7:38] Brea: It is so hard to look at a line of dialogue on a script that one would just cringe at saying and to say it in that way.

[7:46] Conor: It's not right.

[7:48] Andrew: I was like, okay.

[7:51] Andrew: I was like, I see he's putting in the work.

[7:52] Andrew: This is a future Emmy winner.

[7:54] Conor: Could you imagine that this entire like her cheating storyline happens the week after the Whitney Houston week that it's like, oh, and he says like, it's not right, but it's okay.

[8:09] Brea: He's like, fuck.

[8:10] Brea: Oh, I wish this happened last week.

[8:16] Conor: No, he says it in Saturday Night Cleaver and he's like, I'm going to say it.

[8:24] Andrew: Wait, wait, hold this space.

[8:27] Andrew: Hold it.

[8:28] Andrew: Let's circle back.

[8:29] Andrew: I think we're going to mourn Whitney next week.

[8:34] Brea: It's been a few months, but let's mourn her next week.

[8:38] Conor: Yeah.

[8:38] Andrew: And we'll leave out our cover of Staying Alive because that wouldn't be appropriate.

[8:44] Andrew: Is there anything else that you would like to add at this very moment?

[8:49] Brea: Oh, so glad Mary the night is done because that that little bitch killed my favorite girl science fiction.

[8:57] Conor: Oh, wait, who who took out Mary the night?

[9:05] Brea: Natural woman.

[9:07] Conor: Oh, okay.

[9:08] Brea: Okay.

[9:09] Brea: Okay.

[9:09] Brea: Gotcha.

[9:10] Conor: Gotcha.

[9:10] Brea: Gotcha.

[9:11] Brea: So glad problem still here.

[9:12] Conor: I know you guys don't like problem, but I don't understand what your deal is with problem because that's fine.

[9:18] Brea: I like problem.

[9:19] Conor: You tell her problem with problem.

[9:21] Brea: Yeah, I do like problem.

[9:23] Conor: What is your problem?

[9:24] Conor: Calm down.

[9:24] Brea: Conor.

[9:25] Conor: I feel like you were in the episode with problem in round two.

[9:29] Brea: Was that like a year episode with like Abby?

[9:32] Conor: I've literally not talking to you.

[9:35] Brea: No.

[9:37] Conor: Okay.

[9:38] Conor: I mean.

[9:39] Conor: I'm pretty sure that didn't happen.

[9:41] Brea: Okay, well, I can look it up.

[9:43] Brea: Keep y'all keep talking.

[9:45] Brea: I can look it up.

[9:45] Brea: I just I genuinely don't understand is Naya Rivera carrying that song.

[9:50] Conor: Yes, but aside from that, it is so much fun and everyone hates on it.

[9:55] Brea: The little every time you touch me and say it's a little clap that they do.

[10:03] Conor: That's good.

[10:04] Conor: Um promo for the first episode of season six, like I got so hyped seeing them in those different Cheerios uniforms Heather Morris with their behind-the-scenes pictures.

[10:14] Brea: I was like oh, we're about to get fed.

[10:17] Conor: So I was not in that episode round two it went through it was against Buenos Aires and it was with an episode with Ian and Mach.

[10:25] Brea: However, the episode we're talking about is called the problem with problem.

[10:30] Conor: That's what it was.

[10:31] Brea: It was an Abbey lore.

[10:33] Conor: Yeah, thank you.

[10:34] Brea: Thank you.

[10:35] Brea: Thank you.

[10:36] Brea: Okay, great.

[10:37] Brea: So also my thing with problem and it's not a problem.

[10:40] Brea: It's a good problem is that problem.

[10:44] Brea: Glee cost version by Glee cost is the most like bass heavy song that I can think of to all of the other songs.

[10:51] Conor: You go after this episode you go you stream problem.

[10:55] Brea: You stream problem.

[10:56] Brea: You put your little air pods in you press play you turn it up to the full max and you hear that bass come in as a boom.

[11:04] Conor: It is so so good.

[11:07] Brea: You know now that I got it for y'all.

[11:09] Brea: I might have gotten some dirty looks at my Honda Civic as I'm driving down the street blasting this and that explains it.

[11:14] Conor: There you go.

[11:15] Andrew: There we go.

[11:16] Conor: There we go.

[11:17] Andrew: During the riots during the riots.

[11:20] Conor: That's right.

[11:21] Andrew: That's right.

[11:22] Andrew: People died.

[11:23] Andrew: All right.

[11:24] Andrew: Well, anything else that you would like to add Brie?

[11:27] Brea: I think I mean, I'm pretty cool with most things.

[11:31] Brea: I did think that last week when I first heard the song, I was like, Oh, my God.

[11:37] Brea: I had a moment where when you guys first pulled run Joey run and Ian was like, I don't think I can be friends with anybody who like doesn't get this.

[11:45] Brea: And I was like I am never ever going to be friends with him. Bring this up on the pod because why? Why put this like target on my lap?

[11:53] Brea: Oh, I had a moment where when you guys first pulled run Joey run and Ian was like, I don't think I can be friends with anybody who like doesn't get this.

[12:02] Brea: And I was like, I am never, ever going to be friends with him. Bring this up on the pod because why? Why put this like target on my lap?

[12:11] Brea: And then you pulled it against I feel the earth move. Now I feel like I have to say something. I am one of those folks. I do not get run Joey run. But I understand it's a me problem.

[12:22] Brea: Like, I'm happy for those that love it. I want it to succeed because I know I'm like, I am missing something and I want to love it so bad.

[12:33] Conor: Yeah.

[12:34] Brea: And what am I missing? And I just can't I don't get it. I don't get it.

[12:38] Brea: Um, but I'm one of those people. And I guess so me and Ian could ever be Claudia was so funny in that episode because I've literally just finished listening to a chat with my girl Claudia, because, well, firstly, she said, Well, I'm going to vote for run Joey run.

[12:58] Brea: And it was the shock of the nation because everyone thought she was going to vote for hand in my pocket.

[13:00] Brea: It's really, really good.

[13:02] Brea: But she reminded me of that meme of pink at the Human Rights Commission. I'm gay. Actually, I'm not.

[13:02] Brea: I want to travel.

[13:06] Conor: Wait, wait, what is that? Is that like a real housewives or it's like, I want a baby. No, actually, I want to travel. Do you know what I'm talking about?

[13:16] Conor: Ever seen?

[13:16] Brea: I forget the name, but I know who you're talking about.

[13:21] Conor: Yeah.

[13:21] Andrew: Actually, I'm not.

[13:25] Andrew: What do you think about this most recent run Joey run?

[13:29] Brea: Can we, can we pack it in?

[13:33] Brea: So, so I do have some, I do have some notes left.

[13:37] Brea: You did say you were going to vote for hand in my pocket, but I'm not.

[13:39] Conor: Did you vote for hand in my pocket?

[13:41] Brea: I did.

[13:42] Conor: I did.

[13:44] Brea: I did.

[13:46] Conor: I did.

[13:48] Brea: I did.

[13:50] Conor: I did.

[13:52] Brea: I did.

[13:53] Conor: I did.

[13:54] Brea: I did.

[13:56] Conor: I did.

[13:57] Brea: I did.

[13:59] Conor: I did.

[14:00] Brea: I did.

[14:01] Conor: Do you mean pre-gaming?

[14:03] Brea: Yeah, we call it pre-drinking, pre-gaming, yeah.

[14:06] Conor: Oh, okay.

[14:07] Andrew: Thank you for that clarification, Brea, because I just thought that was just before you started drinking.

[14:12] Brea: So you just are breathing, or having dinner, or...

[14:15] Conor: You're just living life?

[14:17] Andrew: I'm just...

[14:18] Brea: You're sober?

[14:20] Conor: Okay.

[14:21] Andrew: So, it's like, pre...

[14:23] Conor: I wrote this when I was sober.

[14:27] Andrew: Okay.

[14:30] Conor: It's very important to know that these notes came from a sober place of mind.

[14:35] Andrew: Okay, okay. Keep that in mind, everybody.

[14:37] Conor: I thought that Irish pre-drinking was just more drinking, and as it turns out it is, because that's what pre-gaming is.

[14:43] Brea: So, glad to clarify.

[14:44] Conor: Yeah.

[14:45] Andrew: Wait, do you...

[14:46] Conor: So, pre-drinking is pre-gaming. Does anybody use...

[14:48] Brea: What does gaming mean?

[14:50] Conor: That's a very good question that I haven't actually thought about.

[14:54] Brea: I think it's probably associated with, like, a sports game.

[14:57] Conor: That it's, like, you're going... Like, before you go to a sports event, that you're pre-gaming.

[15:02] Brea: Yeah.

[15:03] Conor: Okay. Whereas I think in Ireland and the UK, the act of pre-drinking, it's you drink... It's when you fill yourself up, because once you go out, maybe you don't want to spend that much money. You want to do a lot of your drinking at home. Like, it harps back to going to college, you know? They used to call me Two-Bottle Burke, because I used to drink two bottles of wine before I left the house, because we were students in London. We weren't going to spend so much money...

[15:35] Brea: That's so true.

[15:36] Conor: ...drinking in the bar, so we had to get fucked up before we left the house. Anyway, I digress.

[15:45] Brea: That's iconic.

[15:46] Conor: Wait, when was the last time anybody's called you Two-Bottle Burke?

[15:49] Brea: That's such an iconic nickname.

[15:51] Conor: Two-B!

[15:52] Brea: One person called me at one time, and I've really just held on dear.

[15:57] Conor: Oh, so it was only a one-time event?

[16:00] Brea: Yes.

[16:01] Conor: And then, so you're... okay.

[16:03] Brea: It says a lot about my personality that I've held on to that. Anyway.

[16:07] Conor: I love it. I'll never forget it so much. This is my 18th episode of Gleek of the Week right now.

[16:14] Andrew: What a milestone.

[16:18] Conor: Big 18th.

[16:20] Brea: Big 18th.

[16:21] Conor: Everybody remembers their 18th time.

[16:23] Andrew: And in three more episodes, I'll legally be able to drink.

[16:27] Brea: Right.

[16:28] Conor: But this is my 18th episode of Gleek of the Week, and I decided to go back through the Glackett and go back through Elijah's iconic voting document, and to really think about my past and the actions. Because the thing about me is that I'm all about self-reflection. I hold my hands up. I say when I'm wrong, and I learn and I grow. Everybody knows this about you.

[16:52] Andrew: Everyone knows about me.

[16:54] Conor: However, it's all about self-reflection.

[16:57] Brea: Classic two-bottle.

[16:58] Conor: Classic two-bottle.

[16:59] Brea: Classic two-bottle work.

[17:01] Conor: I have to drink through the riots. What can I say? Now, see, I'm bringing that joke back, guys. Keep up with me. Keep up. Keep up. It's really all happening right in front of you. You're getting this for free. Absolutely nothing got to do with the ADHD medication I took around an hour ago. Anyway, I was thinking about the mistakes that I've made, and I've come to the conclusion that I haven't made any.

[17:26] Andrew: Oh.

[17:27] Conor: Apart from one.

[17:37] Andrew: Was like, wow, I think Conor's really getting to a place of growth.

[17:42] Conor: I do regret one competition, and I'm just going to say it. Alison Alamode. In the competition of shout versus how to be a heartbreaker, I look back, and I would have, should have voted for how to be a heartbreaker. Now.

[18:03] Brea: We talked about riots at the end. Keep going.

[18:06] Conor: No, there's still more. How did I reach the dogs yet? That was like divine intervention from Alison Alamode there. She was like, get the dog onto the thing right now. Look, when I think about what Glee songs to vote for, I'm like, okay, well, how to be a heartbreaker, it's kind of an original version. We don't get a lot of Brody, the choreography, the camp of it all, the bobbed wig. I mean, it has everything. Shout, I like it, and it's a lot of fun. Have you thought about that competition at all? I know you're the master of ceremonies, so there's a lot of competitions for you to think about.

[18:44] Brea: Sure.

[18:45] Conor: Nobody asked me what I think about the previous competitions because, well, I guess I'm in every one of them. But anyway, no, I have thought about that competition. I've gone back and forth with that. I think that like how to be a heartbreaker does like make a case for itself because it is like kind of like stupid. It's like they are at – is that a – that's not a brothel. What would you call that?

[19:14] Brea: It's a high-end hotel.

[19:17] Conor: Wait, what is a brothel?

[19:21] Brea: A brothel is a more like –

[19:23] Conor: I was trying to make you feel better about your analysis of that scene. I was like, well, it is quite literally a luxurious hotel. But no, it's a luxurious hotel with prostitution happening. Yes?

[19:38] Brea: It looks like exclusively prostitution is what we like to believe.

[19:43] Conor: Yeah. What is a brothel?

[19:46] Brea: A brothel is like – my understanding of a brothel is that it's like – is it like there's a bar in some brothels, right?

[19:53] Conor: I think you're thinking of a saloon like from old Western times. A brothel is a place where you go to get sex workers, and it can be like a hotel or whatever. We just don't technically, quote-unquote, have brothels in the United States because it's not legal here.

[20:10] Brea: But I think –

[20:11] Conor: Legally, I cannot say that there are any brothels, yeah. I absolutely don't run one. Just in case anyone is listening.

[20:20] Brea: Bree, people are going to be like at your door like, do you know where a brothel is?

[20:25] Conor: No. We need to find it.

[20:28] Brea: Bree is just Googling. A brothel is near a maze. No, but no, with that competition, I think that they're like – it's similar. I understand – like Shout just feels – I understand when people don't like Shout. Shout is so joy. I think Shout is joyous, though. And I think it's like – I really like Heather on that song. I think that she sounds really good, and I think it's like – it's like fun. I like when they travel.

[20:59] Brea: Me too.

[21:01] Conor: And I do like – I know that Shout within itself is simply a wedding song, and so maybe that's where people are like – I despise Shout, but I do like when it's like a little bit softer, a little bit softer, a little bit louder. I think that brings me joy. And so I don't know if I get the same joy out of How to Be a Heartbreaker, you know?

[21:22] Brea: So you don't regret voting for Shout?

[21:24] Conor: No.

[21:25] Brea: Yeah, I did a little turnaround there, yeah.

[21:27] Conor: Yeah. Talk to yourself in a second. Spoiler.

[21:31] Brea: Just like you, I don't regret anything. Spoiler.

[21:34] Conor: So, yeah, that is the one. When I was preparing my thoughts on the Glockett this week, I was like, do you know what? I'm going to add a little extra step onto it just purely because I need some self-reflection, and that's the one I self-reflected on. Alice in L.A. Mode, I love you, girl. And to all of the Gleeks I let down, I sincerely apologise. It was a lapse of judgement. In terms of the other competitions, I'm just going to say it. I would have...

[21:57] Brea: So I agree with what Iain said last week. As this podcast goes on, I am finding that I disagree less with the songs that go on through to round four because even if I wouldn't have voted for a song that goes through to round four and I would have voted for its opponent, I can sit down, take a breath and be like, no, Conor, I mean, I can understand why people voted for that. So that's the overwhelming arc. That's the first thing I want to start with. However, I will say, I would have voted for Barely Breathing over Don't You Want Me, which I feel like people might be a little bit surprised by.

[22:38] Conor: But I will mourn him. I am going to mourn Barely Breathing. I am obviously a big fan of that song because I went back and I voted for Barely Breathing in round two and Andrew and Claudia on that episode voted for Homeward Bound Home. So I obviously do have some kind of connection to Barely Breathing. I think it is a masterful performance in terms of obviously Corey and Darren are great, but I think from a character perspective it's really interesting. We never hear those two gleeky guys really sing together. I think the timbre of their voices is beautiful. I think I love the way it's shot in terms of yearning at Rachel and Kurt. I don't know, I just really like it. Don't You Want Me, again, this is another one.

I don't like the song. I don't like Don't You Want Me as a song. I've never liked it. I don't like it. I understand it's iconic. That is one of my favourite episodes of Glee. We love it. The LMDC of it all. It tastes like piss. We get it. We get it, we get it. For me, I would have had to went with my heart. And then the final one, that was just completely innocuous and it just caught my eye. Andrew and Robert Ulrich voting for Take Care of Yourself Over Come See About Me. That was the episode you were in.

[24:04] Brea: I know, but I forgot about it.

[24:07] Conor: I forgot about it. So you take Ulrich with that.

[24:10] Brea: I take Ulrich with that, which I love that little bit, by the way. It did give me a chuckle.

[24:15] Conor: Thank you. We love a bit on this show.

[24:17] Brea: We love a bit.

[24:18] Conor: We love a bit. But they're my overwhelming thoughts. I am pretty happy with the glacket. To get to last week's episode, I would have, unfortunately, had to have voted for Run, Joey, Run. Cal Surprise. Is anyone surprised that that's what I would vote for? People who are even vaguely familiar with my relationship with this show. Purely because I approach Glee from, I enjoy Glee the most when it's about weird people following their dreams and just being odd. And Run, Joey, Run was literally me as a teenager. I recreated that as a teenager. Have I dropped this door before?

[25:00] Conor: Firework. Yeah. Wait, wait, do we have video of Run, Joey, Run?

[25:04] Brea: I don't. My friend, Clodagh, does.

[25:07] Conor: So I'm going to message Clodagh about it. Clodagh, we need it. We'll find it.

[25:10] Brea: Yeah. So, but I understand. I am not a woman. I'm not a queer woman. I, you know, I understand the emotionality tied up to Britannia. Of course. So I'm like, I get it. It's a great song. It's a great mashup. I do stream. But, you know, okay. That's why I was shaking listening to the episode last week because I was like, oh my God, Clodagh voted for Run, Joey, Run. What? And then I looked down at my phone and I was like, there's 20 minutes of this episode left. Clodagh, are you sure about that?

[25:57] Brea: I know that you did the firework.

[26:19] Brea: The Boy's Mind.

[26:20] Conor: How is The Boy's Mind doing?

[26:21] Brea: Yeah. The Boy's Mind, I feel like had like 20% last I checked. And it was very funny seeing that. So there are 10 songs eligible. And the only one that got zero votes was I'll Remember, which I feel so, I like, I feel like I need to keep on like defending this song for, for whatever reason that I'm like, you guys like are actually being like kind of rude about it.

[26:48] Brea: Yeah.

[26:48] Conor: You really can't have that opinion when you literally bully me for liking Glitter in the Air.

[26:50] Conor: Okay. So I don't know. I always feel like this kind of like takes the, I don't know, the air out of the conversation a little bit when I say what I'm about to say. But with the song voting back, it does appear that Run, Joey, Run will live to see another day in season four of The Glackett. That has over 50% of the, of the votes of the 10 songs that are up to come back.

[26:54] Brea: I'm so sorry. Is I'll Remember my Glitter in the Air?

[26:59] Conor: Maybe so. I think it might be. That's actually a question I've never asked on this podcast. Do you guys have, do you know the way I've got a strange obsession with Glitter in the Air and 90% of people are like, you are so fucking odd and you're mentally ill? Like what's your song?

[27:15] Brea: We're saying, I think we're saying a little bit worse things than that, but yeah.

[27:19] Conor: Bri.

[27:20] Brea: Yeah, behind your back we're saying the language is a lot more strong.

[27:24] Conor: The conversation is a little bit more heated.

[27:26] Brea: Yeah. Bri, is there, is there like a little like a guilty pleasure? I don't know. Like people aren't getting it the way that you're getting it.

[27:35] Conor: Oh God.

[27:36] Brea: Oh God.

[28:02] Andrew: Oh, that's it. That's a good answer. I don't... That's always the first... Andrew, say something nice about the Reign in Spain challenge. Um, okay. So when people say, like, what is the worst Glee song? Reign in Spain is definitely the first one that comes to mind. Reign in Spain... and I think I said this in the... Oh, when, like, Kevin and Jenna did, like, their episode where it was, like, what songs are worse than the original, and I brought it up. And I think I said that, like, when Glee does, like, with Poker Face, you know, they did a different arrangement. They, you know, like, mashups, whatever. They do something fun or interesting that is different than the original piece. Reign in Spain, they did something worse. I think if I were to say the nice thing that you presented me with, Conor, the nice thing that I would say is that the attempt is there. That they, you know, they, like, attempted to do something interesting.

[28:54] Conor: Oh, they tried.

[28:59] Andrew: Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm gonna say, I think it's... I always love it when Corey gets on the drums, and it's the boys having fun together.

[29:11] Brea: Oh, well, I guess... The boys, yeah. I guess this leads me to what my actual guilty pleasure is, what it feels like for a girl. I freaking love that song. I don't listen... That one's growing on me, I'll be honest. I don't scream Glee music as much as a lot of you guys do, it sounds like. But I love that song. Like, I like it more than the Madonna version, frankly.

[29:30] Conor: I don't know if I've ever heard the original song.

[29:33] Brea: I have not, I was about to say. I was about, I've literally never heard that song.

[29:36] Andrew: What?

[29:38] Conor: You guys are stupid.

[29:39] Brea: Yeah, I know.

[29:40] Andrew: What?

[29:43] Conor: The riots are starting again, everyone get back out in the street. I'm making a Molotov cocktail as we speak. Shanice, you're back on shift, come on. Shanice, get off the couch. All these innocent people.

[29:56] Brea: It's, well, it's really funny because it's not that great. The intro is back when she was doing that thing where she was like, had a fake British accent. And so she does a whole speaking part. A certain Glee cast member can relate.

[30:14] Brea: I do like what it feels like for a girl, like the... I don't even, I literally know nothing about musical theory or anything. But, um, what is like the, like the... Like, what is like the beginning? I think it's like very funny.

[30:31] Conor: What are you talking about?

[30:34] Brea: Wait, oh wait, do you not know what I'm talking about? I thought you were, okay.

[30:42] Conor: Is it in the beginning of, do you, like the very beginning, you press play on what it feels like for a girl, Glee cast version by Glee cast.

[30:49] Brea: You do. You press, first step, press play. Um, okay. And so, uh, it's like, I don't, what is that? You know what I'm talking about.

[31:00] Conor: I actually don't.

[31:01] Brea: Let me play it.

[31:02] Conor: I literally do not.

[31:04] Brea: Um, I actually don't. Let me see what it feels.

[31:11] Brea: Uh, here we go. Oh wait, actually it doesn't. Oh wait, I think it's about to get to it. Cause it's okay to be a boy. But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading. Cause you think that being a girl is degrading. Oh wait, they're about, they're about to get to it.

[31:30] Brea: They're, okay. You'd love to know what it's like, wouldn't you? What it feels like for a girl. This.

[31:42] Conor: You heard that?

[31:44] Brea: Yeah.

[31:46] Conor: No, I was, I was, I know that, but I was just really confused because I was, I was like, wait, is that the very start of the song? I thought it was at the very start.

[31:55] Brea: Yeah.

[31:56] Conor: Yeah.

[31:57] Brea: You're talking about like the reverb, reverb after the beat a little bit.

[32:01] Conor: Is that what you mean?

[32:02] Brea: Okay. The reverb after the beat? Well, I don't even know if that's right. I just, is that what you mean though?

[32:11] Conor: Uh, I believe that sounds correct. And that's what I like about that song.

[32:15] Andrew: All right. Yeah. What it feels like for a girl is a really good answer to that question, I have to say. And the rain in Spain. So is yours, Andrew, yours is, is it honestly I remember, or was that just an off the cuff thing? Do you need to have, you need to think more about that?

[32:32] Brea: Yours is Ben. Come on.

[32:33] Andrew: Oh, mine is Ben. Yeah. I'm so sorry.

[32:37] Brea: Yeah. Ben and I'll remember.

[32:40] Andrew: Yeah. Ben first. I'll remember second, I'll say.

[32:42] Brea: Um, okay. So is there anything else that anybody would like to add about, um, like grievances or anything?

[32:53] Conor: No.

[32:54] Andrew: Uh, Brea, what are we, what are we manifesting this episode?

[32:59] Brea: Shockingly enough, I was unprepared for this one too, but I will manifest. I would, I'll say this. I would love to continue my streak. This will be my first, uh, my third time on the pod. And the last two times I got a Rocky Horror number. It would be fun if like, we just keep that keeps happening.

[33:19] Andrew: Uh-huh.

[33:19] Brea: Um, well, you know, I'm always here for my girl Santana. We still have so many good ones to pull up. I mean, oh, I want, I want Songbird. I want her.

[33:30] Conor: Oh yeah.

[33:33] Brea: That's a good one. Potentially the winner of my Glackett and I want her. Um, wait, Brea, remind me what your first competition, because it was a live stream episode with the three of us, Connor, um, as well. What was that? Do you know what that competition was?

[33:46] Brea: Yes, it was, uh, I think it was Time Warp.

[33:52] Conor: Yes, it was Time Warp and it was I Will Always Love You.

[33:56] Brea: There it is. People, people had thoughts about that one.

[33:59] Conor: Yeah. That one kind of stayed in the vernacular for a while.

[34:02] Andrew: Um, okay. Yeah, Rocky Horror. I'm trying to think, like, what else we have left. I know that Sweet Transvestite was in your episode with Emily. That still is yet to be pulled up in this round.

[34:18] Andrew: What is the episode of the hit Fox TV show Glee with the most songs left in the Glackett?

[34:23] Brea: Oh, that's, um, so at the end of, uh, round two, um, Amelia presented a beautiful statistic, which I'm pulling up right now.

[34:34] Andrew: That's right. How could I forget?

[34:36] Brea: Um, that, let's see. So at the end of, uh, round two, the episode with the most songs in round three was Power Madonna with five songs. And then there was, uh, a five-way tie for second, which was Journey to Regionals, Rocky Horror, Original Song, Original Song, Heart, and The Breakup, all with four songs.

[34:59] Andrew: Is the Power of Madonna still in the lead? Do you know?

[35:02] Brea: Ooh, okay. Oh, God. Ah, okay.

[35:07] Andrew: So I know that, like, oh, Express Yourself made it through. I know that we have, so we haven't got Like a Prayer yet. Um, we haven't got Borderline Open Your Heart yet. We haven't got Like a Virgin yet. And we haven't got Four Minutes yet. So Express Yourself, you know, it's, we, it, it's a good batting average so far, you know?

[35:26] Conor: Okay.

[35:27] Andrew: Yeah. Okay. There we go. Um, Conor, what do you want today?

[35:32] Conor: You know, I, not to sound too violent, but I really want to knock some, I want to knock a heavy hitter out.

[35:41] Andrew: Okay. You want something that people will talk about?

[35:42] Conor: I would, I would love, I would love for, yeah, I would love that because my impact hasn't really been felt on the Glocket in that sense. And I haven't had a, like, I haven't had an Ian Allred controversial competition yet, I don't think.

[35:56] Brea: Those are exclusive to him.

[35:59] Conor: Yeah, there's definitely been, there's definitely people who have disagreed with my choices. But like, I mean, something that's people are like, that is insane work.

[36:08] Andrew: Uh-huh.

[36:09] Conor: You've had like a bad competition, you've, you must have had a bad competition. Yes?

[36:13] Brea: You looked at all your competitions today.

[36:17] Conor: Yeah, I mean.

[36:19] Andrew: But what do you even notice? What do you notice that they're bad competitions?

[36:22] Conor: If you're like, oh, yeah.

[36:24] Brea: I mean, you did say earlier that you don't regret anything. So you're probably the worst person to ask.

[36:28] Conor: I'm just like, this is great work.

[36:30] Andrew: Yeah. Fantastic. Who is this guy? 2BottleBurke, he's really, he's really killing it.

[36:37] Brea: 2B cannot go wrong.

[36:39] Conor: It's 2B in my mind. We're evolving that.

[36:42] Andrew: Okay. Going into the first competition.

[36:45] Conor: Here we go.

[36:49] Brea: Ooh.

[36:50] Conor: Nervous.

[36:50] Andrew: You should be nervous.

[36:52] Conor: You really should. This is crazy. People would kill to have this in their episode. And this being the first song of two.

[37:03] Brea: Ooh.

[37:05] Conor: Glasses.

[37:05] Andrew: It could be bad.

[37:06] Conor: Okay. I'm ready.

[37:07] Brea: Where is she?

[37:09] Conor: And it's definitely a she, by the way.

[37:11] Brea: Oh, it's a she.

[37:12] Conor: Yeah.

[37:13] Brea: Okay.

[37:14] Conor: I'm looking for my glasses. I lost them when I chased my dog for the 10th time.

[37:18] Brea: Yeah. Audio medium. Whenever Andrew pulls a song, I always put my glasses on because I am an intellectual.

[37:24] Andrew: I don't even like-

[37:25] Conor: Okay. Audio medium.

[37:28] Andrew: ABC!

[37:29] Conor: Oh, sorry.

[37:30] Andrew: No. Not ABC.

[37:32] Conor: It's not?

[37:33] Andrew: I Will Survive.

[37:34] Conor: It's Survivor, I Will Survive.

[37:36] Andrew: Oh, okay, okay. Here we go.

[37:38] Conor: ABC! I would be happy either way.

[37:42] Andrew: I never get tired of watching that. There are certain songs that I'm like, okay, this is the third time that we're watching it within the realm of the Glackett. I have so many things to say about this song still, which is to the song's credit. Who wants to start the discourse?

[38:03] Brea: I'll do it. I'll always do it.

[38:05] Conor: Okay.

[38:06] Brea: Absolutely. One of my favorite songs. I mean, to nobody's surprise, should be. But it's so incredible. I'll never stop being baffled by Finn. I'm like, what went through his fucking mind to lean back and go? Oh my god. We've got this. And I'm like, I love, obviously, I screamed it. I was like, ABC! I love their performance. I really do. And so I actually don't take as much ulrich with the fact that they won. I never have. I love both the performances a lot. But I mean, at what point in his brain did he think he could go? They're really fucking this up. We've got this. I'm like, what went through your mind? What's going on in your head? Right? Seriously. What was the moment? We got the Britango, obviously.

[39:01] Conor: The Britango.

[39:02] Brea: Oh, iconic. It's amazing. Meant a lot to me as a little gay girl. I was like, look at them. They're just dancing together. Oh, I remember telling my mom about it because they released this performance ahead of the episode coming out. And I remember showing it to my mom and being like, and people are calling this the Britango. That's Britney and Santana. And they're doing the tango. And she was like, okay.

[39:27] Andrew: All these stories. I have come to the realization in recent weeks that my all time favorite bit of this entire podcast is when Andrew talks about the things that he told his mother. Your poor mom, man. You know, the worst, I think the worst thing that I've publicly said here was actually what I said to my dad after Quinn got hit by a car that I had to, I presented to him. Okay. So she's driving in a red Beetle and she gets hit by a truck while she's texting. Do you think that she'll survive? Not the realism. And he's like, huh, let's really put some thought into this. One of the many reasons I've chosen not to have children. What the hell am I supposed to answer if someone asks me a question like that?

Oh, no, it's so scary to think about. And I think that it's like, it's why I'm like talking about it now because I didn't have anybody to talk about it with then, you know, if I got it out of my system while it was on the air, we would not be here. Anyway, I'm sorry to cut you off, Brea. Go ahead.

[40:39] Brea: Oh, no, please do. I love hearing about when you forced your mom to listen to Glee stuff and almost always was her being like- Telling her about the Britango.

[40:46] Andrew: I don't know how to respond to this, you know?

[40:54] Brea: Yeah, the Britango, your mom, she's a big fan. I'm sure she still remembers that time.

[41:01] Andrew: She loves it. She always brings it up. I thought about this when I wrote it. Maybe it was on And That's What You Really Miss or yeah, it must have been. They were talking about how they had done their hair up in like crazy ways. Like they had curled all of their hair. And to me, it sounded like they'd almost attempted to give all of them like afros, which I'm like, oh, I could see why that wasn't going to work. And then they had to go back and redo all their hair. And so as a result, their hairstyles don't look perfect. But for me, that kind of works because it works like this is a real show choir. Their hair isn't going to be perfectly done by professionals all the time. And I feel that same way about their dance moves that like that's the one other complaint I've heard about this performance is that their dance moves aren't as polished.

And but I'm like, this is their first like competition. These are high school students. It all works for me very well. I really love it. Also, like Britney's hair specifically in this performance, I always think is so fun.

[42:03] Conor: Just like so poofy on top. Love! Yes, and as someone who was actually in high school back when this was like pretty popular, I used to poof my hair up. No shame, I still love it. It's great. Conor, what are you thinking?

[42:21] Brea: Like, not them kind of dress like the Chin Man, you know? It's kind of giving amateur production of The Wizard of Oz on a budget. But that's not a diss, you know? I know that Brea brought up the point about the we got this of it all. The we got this comment is mental illness to the point where it's like, canonically, it's like Finn and Blaine are actually in a padded cell swimming in a pile of their own shit. Like, it is so, they are so off the walls crazy. They have no idea where they even are. They honestly do not have any idea where they are. Very strange to me. Arm choreography. For me, there's been much written in the written word about the choreography of Survivor, I Will Survive. I think it's absolutely fucking iconic. Because if you just get to plant your feet there on the stage and go like this, that's choreography that I can get on board with.

[43:29] Conor: What do you mean? And what did you just do?

[43:30] Brea: I expressed myself. Whatever that means to the people, girl reading this, yeah. Look it up. This winning over Paradise by the Dashboard Light, we're not even gonna, that is so, that reminded me of like when you're watching a reality show and you're like, okay, so the reality show is real, but like a situation is set up. So it's like, okay, talk about your recent breakup and we're going to film you. Paradise by the Dashboard Light losing against Survivor, I Will Survive. Are we, are we okay? This is how we got this. Okay, people are going to be really, really mad at me. This is how we got this moment. People are going to be so mad at me for saying this. I would do it again. I, after watching this performance, because this got that same competition could happen right now that we could have Survivor, I Will Survive versus Paradise by the Dashboard Light rematch.

[44:31] Conor: Oh my God, that would be so iconic. And, and I really think, I feel crazy for saying this, but I would vote for this again.

[44:42] Brea: Yeah. There's a reason it happened. I mean, I love this song. I'm open to being convinced. Like, I just, I don't know.

[44:54] Conor: It's so much, I, uh, go ahead.

[44:58] Brea: No, please continue because I was about to bring it somewhere else. You continue.

[45:02] Conor: No, I just think that they, they're just like commanding so much, like power in this performance. They're like, like truly like people like talk about like owning the stage. They're fucking owning it. They're so good. I just like the way that she like, Nia is like, kind of like stomping toward like the edge of the state. It's so like, it just, oh, it's just like all these like corny things to say, but like electric. I'm just like, I'm feeling it. Um, uh, and then also we have to, of course, acknowledge the, the incredible Vanessa Lengies, the what, what, what? It's just iconic. Just perfectly perfect use.

[45:51] Brea: Yeah. Canonically, did Shelby choreograph this?

[45:55] Conor: Um, did Shelby, Shelby, it shall be. We don't know her to be. Oh, I guess. Well, I guess she choreographed Bohemian Rhapsody canonically. Well, Shelby gets a lot done. She gets a lot done. The one thing about Shelby, we can all agree. She gets a lot done. She's like that Debbie, uh, the Debbie Ryan meme. It scares me to be still. Her, she may be, she may be, she is really the, um, the, uh, the epitome of the original, the, uh, she may be difficult because she really is difficult, but boy, can she create a ugly club number.

[46:39] Brea: But see, did she choreograph that? We saw her barking orders at Vocal Adrenaline, but we don't know if she choreographed it. We just don't know.

[46:48] Conor: Wait a minute. It's been a minute since I watched season one, but like Dakota Stanley, who is he? Is he still, wait.

[46:56] Brea: Dakota Stanley is such a fucking icon. I love him. Artie, you're not trying hard enough at what? At walking. Um, you look like a woodland creature. Um, wait, Dakota, I feel so stupid saying this almost 200 episodes into this podcast, but Dakota Stanley, is he still?

[47:24] Conor: Would it be possible for him and Shelby to be working in tandem? I don't know. They basically like present him as though he's like a consultant to come in. Right. He's not the coach. That was the one that that, uh, Matt Bomer was supposed to be hired to be Dakota's.

[47:43] Brea: Right. Isn't that what I've heard?

[47:44] Conor: No, no, no. Not Matt Bomer. Who's the other pretty boy? The guy that plays the.

[47:50] Brea: You said Matt Bomer, but I, and I was.

[47:51] Conor: Yeah, I'm sorry. I was talking about that.

[47:53] Brea: Yeah.

[47:54] Conor: Cheyenne Jackson. Um, I think he was hired to be Dakota. Stanley got sick or something. And then, so he's like a consultant that comes in, but I don't think he's ever technically the coach of Vocal Adrenaline. And Cheyenne Jackson also like revealed, uh, on Kevin and Jenna's podcast that like him and Adino were supposed to have a duet, um, in season two that because like I guess like he was taking over Vocal Adrenaline. I don't, I'm just like, Ooh, really want to know what that one would have been.

[48:26] Brea: One of the funniest things, one of the funniest things about Dakota Stanley, I'm like, if my niche interest is Glee, my sub category niche interest are Glee characters that are only in like one episode. Fucking iconic Dakota Stanley, Brenda Castle famously, all of the, all of the gay icons. But one of the most hilarious things to me about Dakota Stanley is that it's kind of like heavily implied. It's heavily implied that Dakota Stanley is a straight man.

[48:54] Conor: Oh yeah, Dakota Stanley is like in like a convertible with a woman at the end of the episode or something, right?

[48:59] Brea: Yeah, in a convertible, yeah. She wears like absolutely everything else about him screams gay. I'm not about to buy erasure, by the way, but it's just so funny to me that one moment that no one talks about that with that like 21 year old girl.

[49:14] Conor: Yeah, that's really great. And of course, I just want to remind people that we're talking about Survivor, I Will Survive. But can I just say, oh my god, I think I'm getting really excited talking about Survivor, I Will Survive, because the setup of the stage in Survivor, I Will Survive, it's kind of giving the staging for the current West End production of Evita.

[49:42] Brea: Oh, do you want to talk about that?

[49:45] Conor: Yeah, Andrew and I are seeing Rachel, is it Ziegler or Zegler?

[49:49] Brea: Ziegler?

[49:50] Conor: Ziegler. Rachel Zegler, that's what I understand. Rachel Zegler in a couple of weeks. Obviously, you can tell I'm so excited because I know her name. No, I am. I am excited. I am genuinely very, very excited. That is going to be so much fun. And in conjunction with the Appa Voyage performance that we're going to as well that you recommended. And I looked into it and I'm like, oh, people are talking about this in a major way.

[50:21] Brea: People are talking about it in a major, major, major way.

[50:25] Conor: For what now?

[50:26] Brea: And so Appa Voyage, they built in London, they built a stadium, basically, specifically for an Appa concert, but it's all holograms.

[50:37] Conor: Oh, my God. Okay. Brief.

[50:38] Brea: Yeah, and even people who are like against the hologram idea come out of it and they're like, no, that was fucking incredible.

[50:47] Conor: Oh, my God. Yeah.

[50:48] Brea: So.

[50:49] Conor: Oh, I love it.

[50:50] Brea: It should be. It should be a lot of fun.

[50:52] Conor: A lot, a lot of fun. And I will survive Survivor. The thing about her for me is that I really do love her. I'm trying to think about where is there ever a point for me that enough is enough? You know, if there's going to be 10 rounds of the Glackett, am I okay with her getting to round seven? Do I want her to go all the way to the end? Like, I'm trying to work that out in my head. I feel like you guys are both like, oh, no, I want her to go to the very end. I really like her. And I'm thinking, like, would, hypothetically, like, a songbird, like, where, like, because, like, where on the other side of the spectrum, like, we have this really great, loud performance with Survivor, I will survive. But then we have, like, you know, the more quiet ballads that are also really great. But I think at the right now, in this moment, I'm like, I'm leaning toward, like, a very fun, loud, exciting number like this, you know?

[51:53] Brea: Hmm.

[51:55] Conor: That's fair. And you're probably right. I mean, I was thinking about it earlier when you guys brought up Paradise by the Dashboard Light. And you were like, oh, you know, I'd vote for that. And you said that you would have still voted this song. And then I had the most, like, horrible competition pop into my mind. And I just want to theoretically throw it out there. And you can cut it if it ends up happening next time.

[52:18] Brea: To cancel it out.

[52:18] Conor: Yeah. What if we pulled Paradise versus any way you want it, love it, touch it, squeeze it?

[52:27] Brea: Oh.

[52:27] Conor: Oh, Paradise. Is that easy for you guys?

[52:30] Brea: I think that the more, the more difficult competition would be Paradise versus Faithfully.

[52:35] Conor: Okay.

[52:36] Brea: Okay. I think that any way you want it, love it, touch it, squeeze it, is my Paradise. That's what I think.

[52:43] Conor: Really?

[52:43] Brea: It's a great song.

[52:44] Conor: It's a great song.

[52:45] Brea: It is really good. And people, people aren't talking about it enough. I think it's, it's like the perfect encapsulation of glee, in my opinion.

[52:52] Conor: Yeah. But.

[52:55] Brea: With this song, I actually, like, heard this song twice over the weekend. First on Friday.

[53:03] Conor: As you do.

[53:06] Brea: No, the original, I Will Survive. On Friday, we went to, we go to the row house every Friday. A wash? Berging, a workout class in the morning, where you're rowing, the rowing machines. And it was a disco row. And, and this was one of the songs featured in the disco row. And without fail, without fail, at the certain point in the song, where Blaine and Finn have that back and forth of the, we got this, yeah, we do. I still even hear it with the original piece. That it's so embedded. And I'm like, God, I just want, I wish they never said that.

[53:53] Conor: Someone explain, someone explain.

[53:55] Brea: Well, yeah, they also, it makes them look like assholes. Because they actually were pretty supportive. And that was, like, the one redeeming thing about the treble tones. But then it's, like, they just have this, like, rude comment. Like, yo, we're totally gonna beat a bruh. Which also brings me to my next point of the Will and Shelby scene. The two show choir scene earlier in the episode. Where, like, Shelby says to Will, it's like, hey, if we win, you guys are all welcome to come over. And Will's like, that's so fucking rude, Shelby. That's so, how dare you? And I'm like, what the fuck? How, in any universe, is that rude? Like, she's saying, like, if we win. Like, I don't know. It's just, that always takes me out.

[54:41] Conor: Yeah. Why are they so mean?

[54:43] Brea: I don't know. I think it's just the sexual tension. I'm not talking about it. They're just, yeah, they're, they're negative. That's because no one wants to talk about it. Gross.

[54:52] Conor: That's fair. Speak for yourself. I hate when Shelby has sexual tension with anybody, because it's always a problem.

[55:00] Brea: Um, is there anything else that we would like to add about Survive or I Will Survive before we see the dreading, the dreaded competition? It's going to be hard to beat this one, Cheryl Breezeman playing that one.

[55:11] Conor: Oh, I'm spooky scared. I hope 2B understands.

[55:17] Brea: Okay, guys, I'm putting on my face mask. I'm so sorry. My battery's about to go and I don't want to charge it. Just in case anyone gets a jump scare.

[55:26] Conor: I, this is insane.

[55:28] Brea: Is it insane? This one.

[55:31] Conor: Like.

[55:31] Brea: Okay, do you think my dream will come true with this episode in terms of like, I want to knock out like a heavy hitter? Is that what you're saying?

[55:36] Conor: Okay, it's like, it's insane because like, we were just talking about it.

[55:42] Brea: Uh oh.

[55:43] Conor: Oh my god. Are you actually, audio medium, actually putting this on right now?

[55:49] Brea: What is going on? Is this the first time for the podcast?

[55:51] Conor: Yes.

[55:53] Brea: I'm about to perform Mr. Roboto counting stars Glee Cosplay.

[55:56] Conor: Why are you doing this?

[55:59] Brea: Because my battery is about to go and it takes ages to charge. I can still see. I don't understand what.

[56:04] Andrew: Welcome back to Gleek of the Week! Today, we have Brea and Conor joining us again.

[56:34] Brea: Thanks for having us back!

[57:04] Conor: Yeah, it's great to be here.

[57:34] Andrew: So, let's dive into this episode. We have some interesting performances to discuss, including the mental health themes with Blaine and Finn.

[58:04] Brea: Absolutely, I think it's a really important topic that Glee touches on.

[58:34] Conor: Right, and it’s fascinating to see how they handle it throughout the series.

[58:54] Andrew: And we can't forget about Vanessa Lengies' singing!

[59:14] Brea: Yes! She has such a unique voice, and I love how she brings her character to life through music.

[59:34] Conor: Definitely! Her performances always stand out.

[59:54] Andrew: Speaking of performances, let's talk about the first song.

[1:00:14] ♪ Musical number: "Any Way You Want It / Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[1:00:34] Brea: That mashup is so fun!

[1:00:54] Conor: I love how they blend those two songs together.

[1:01:14] Andrew: It really showcases the energy of the show.

[1:01:34] Brea: And the choreography is always on point!

[1:01:54] Conor: For sure! The way they incorporate the dance moves adds so much to the performance.

[1:02:14] Andrew: Now, let's move on to the next song.

[1:02:34] ♪ Musical number: "Call Me Maybe" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[1:02:54] Brea: This song is such a classic!

[1:03:14] Conor: It really captures the fun and youthful spirit of the show.

[1:03:34] Andrew: And the way they interpret it is just brilliant.

[1:03:54] Brea: I love the humor they bring to it!

[1:04:14] Conor: Yes! It's lighthearted and catchy.

[1:04:34] Andrew: Now, let's discuss "Christmas Wrapping."

[1:04:54] ♪ Musical number: "Christmas Wrapping" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[1:05:14] Brea: This one always gives me the holiday feels!

[1:05:34] Conor: Same here! It's such a sweet rendition.

[1:05:54] Andrew: And it really fits the theme of the episode.

[1:06:14] Brea: Absolutely! It’s a perfect choice for the season.

[1:06:34] Conor: And now, let's get into the final performance.

[1:06:54] ♪ Musical number: "Survivor / I Will Survive" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[1:07:14] Andrew: This is such a powerful medley!

[1:07:34] Brea: It really showcases the strength of the characters.

[1:07:54] Conor: And the message of resilience is so important.

[1:08:14] Andrew: I love how they bring that to life through music.

[1:08:34] Brea: It’s definitely one of my favorites from the series.

[1:08:54] Conor: Same here! It leaves you feeling empowered.

[1:09:14] Andrew: Well, that wraps up our discussion for today. Thanks for joining us, Brea and Conor!

[1:09:34] Brea: Thanks for having us!

[1:09:54] Conor: Yeah, it was a blast!

[1:10:05] Andrew: Welcome back to Gleek of the Week! Today, we have Brea and Conor joining us again.

[1:10:35] Brea: Thanks for having us back!

[1:11:05] Conor: Yeah, it's always a blast to talk about Glee with you guys.

[1:11:35] Andrew: So, let's dive right into it. This episode has some heavy themes, especially around mental illness with Blaine and Finn. What are your thoughts on how the show handled that?

[1:12:05] Brea: I think it was really important for the show to address those issues, especially since it was aimed at a younger audience.

[1:12:15] Conor: Absolutely. It’s crucial to show that these characters are dealing with real struggles, and it makes them more relatable.

[1:12:25] Andrew: And Vanessa Lengies' performance in this episode is just fantastic.

[1:12:35] Brea: Yes! Her voice is so unique, and she really brings a lot of emotion to her songs.

[1:12:45] Conor: I agree. It’s one of those performances that sticks with you long after the episode ends.

[1:12:55] Andrew: Speaking of performances, let's talk about the musical numbers in this episode.

[1:13:05] Conor: There are some great mashups, especially the "Any Way You Want It / Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'" number.

[1:13:15] Brea: That was such a fun performance! The energy was through the roof.

[1:13:25] Andrew: And then we have "Call Me Maybe," which is such a catchy song.

[1:13:35] Conor: It’s hard not to sing along to that one.

[1:13:45] Brea: Totally! It’s a classic Glee moment.

[1:13:55] Andrew: And we can't forget about the "Christmas Wrapping" number.

[1:14:05] Conor: That one always gets me in the holiday spirit.

[1:14:15] Brea: Same here! It’s such a sweet performance.

[1:14:25] Andrew: Now, let’s discuss the use of ADR in this episode. What do you think about how Glee utilized it?

[1:14:35] Conor: I think it’s interesting. Sometimes it works really well, but other times it feels a bit off.

[1:14:45] Brea: I agree. It can be distracting if you notice it too much.

[1:14:55] Andrew: Right, it’s all about balance.

[1:15:05] Conor: Exactly. If it enhances the performance, then it’s great, but if it detracts from it, that’s when it becomes an issue.

[1:15:15] Brea: And with such a talented cast, they don’t always need it.

[1:15:25] Andrew: True! Their voices are strong enough on their own.

[1:15:35] Conor: Speaking of strong voices, the "Survivor / I Will Survive" mashup was powerful.

[1:15:45] Brea: Yes! It was such an empowering moment in the episode.

[1:15:55] Andrew: It really showcased the characters' resilience.

[1:16:05] Conor: And the choreography was on point too!

[1:16:15] Brea: Absolutely! The whole production was just fantastic.

[1:16:25] Andrew: So, what do you think about the overall message of this episode?

[1:16:35] Conor: I think it’s about overcoming challenges and supporting each other through tough times.

[1:16:45] Brea: Yes! It’s a reminder that we’re not alone in our struggles.

[1:16:55] Andrew: Well said!

[1:17:05] Conor: And it’s a great message for the audience, especially younger viewers.

[1:17:15] Brea: Definitely.

[1:17:25] Andrew: Alright, let’s wrap up our discussion. Any final thoughts?

[1:17:35] Conor: Just that I love revisiting these episodes and seeing how they resonate differently over time.

[1:17:45] Brea: Same here! It’s always a pleasure to chat about Glee.

[1:17:55] Andrew: Thanks for joining us again, Brea and Conor!

[1:18:05] Brea: Thanks for having us!

[1:18:15] Conor: Yeah, it’s been a blast!

[1:18:25] Andrew: And to our listeners, don’t forget to check out our Patreon for full episode versions and live recordings.

[1:18:35] Brea: And rate us five stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts!

[1:18:45] Conor: Also, check out our merch!

[1:18:55] Andrew: Until next time, keep gleeking out!

[1:19:05] ♪ Musical number: "Any Way You Want It / Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[1:19:15] ♪ Musical number: "Call Me Maybe" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[1:19:25] ♪ Musical number: "Christmas Wrapping" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[1:19:35] ♪ Musical number: "Survivor / I Will Survive" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[1:24:07] Conor: She's just, uh, she's one of the vocalists on this song. Um, this is an interesting competition.

[1:24:14] Brea: Okay. Bam! You know what it is?

[1:24:17] Conor: Call Me Maybe. It is! Call Me Maybe.

[1:24:21] Brea: Okay, Call Me Maybe. Who want to start the discourse on that?

[1:24:27] Conor: I don't think that we're talking about her enough.

[1:24:30] Brea: I agree. For whatever reason, no one talks about Call Me Maybe. Ever.

[1:24:37] Conor: Ever.

[1:24:39] Brea: Which is so weird. Is it one of my all-time favorites? No. Do I often stream? Yes. I really like Call Me Maybe.

[1:24:48] Conor: I will say, better than the original. Like, I will, like, if—

[1:24:55] Brea: Literally better than the original.

[1:24:57] Conor: I will turn off Carly Rae and put this on. For whatever reason, I think it's, like, the layering—

[1:25:05] Brea: The layering?

[1:25:06] Conor: Like, the layering, the harmonies, the vocal ad-libs, particularly from Alex, it's a million times better than the original. Sorry, it just is. Like, that's a fact.

[1:25:15] Brea: I'm not, I'm not gonna go that far. Because the original, that was the moment. You have to put yourself in the 2012 shoes for a second and be like—

[1:25:20] Conor: Oh, I was, I was there. I was there.

[1:25:27] Brea: Yeah. Everybody remembers where they were when Call Me Maybe was the song.

[1:25:32] Conor: Brea, what are you thinking?

[1:25:33] Brea: Well, I remember watching this live. And this was the first season premiere I ever got to watch live. Because I didn't get into Glee until I, early 20s. And it was, like, I think season three was airing when I started to catch up. And I was really—

[1:25:52] Conor: This is Peggy's first premiere.

[1:25:54] Brea: And I was really excited. I thought everything was very promising. And I loved this, because that was the song of the summers. Like, you could not go anywhere without hearing Call Me Maybe.

[1:26:06] Conor: I loved it. I thought it was really, really cute. It doesn't do much for me these days. But I love to see them. It's the audio doesn't do much for me these days, I guess. And I guess it was all, I think maybe at the end of the day that the new Rachel was Blaine. I was like, what the hell does this mean? And so I think that kind of sours it for me.

[1:26:28] Brea: What does that mean, exactly?

[1:26:33] Conor: He's the new Rachel, but like—

[1:26:37] Brea: What? Well, and also he, I was like, he was pretty much kind of already the new Rachel last year, because he got all the solos and all the attention. And I was like, why? Why did we even go through this effort to do the audio? I don't know. I guess maybe that sours it a bit. But I still think it's very fun.

[1:26:54] Conor: I think that like the only time, I would love to be corrected. But I feel like the only time that this competition, the new Rachel where Blaine wins is brought up, is I believe in frenemies where they're talking about like, hey, when we go to nationals, Blaine's gonna get a solo because he won the new Rachel competition. Which he doesn't. He doesn't get a solo at that set list. But like, yeah, I don't know. Like, they make such a big deal of this.

[1:27:29] Brea: The fact that Tina also referenced this, and we have this on our t-shirt, and we've got sick all down in front of it at this stage. But the fact that Tina's like, what Rachel would sing if she was here? The song of the summer, Call Me Maybe, because we all know that Rachel wouldn't sing that. But it means that there is a parallel universe out there. What does Liam Ashall singing Call Me Maybe sound like? AI was invented for a certain reason.

[1:27:54] Conor: To hear that.

[1:27:55] Brea: That's what I want to know. Because is she really at Nyada at this stage in her singing class, adding this to her prep book? I don't think so.

[1:28:05] Conor: I just like, that line is so insane to me. That Tina line. That like, someone—

[1:28:13] Brea: Do you ever think that—

[1:28:15] Conor: Go ahead.

[1:28:15] Brea: Do you ever think that actors read a line like that? Like, Jenna reads the script, and then—

[1:28:21] Conor: That's my question.

[1:28:22] Brea: And then she's like, okay, but Rachel wouldn't sing that. Like, they probably don't—they obviously don't have the power to bring it up. But I wonder if there was ever a continuity thing where it's like, I—like, Rachel Berry would not say this. I'm so sorry, Ian or Brad. Like, she would not say what you want me to say in this script.

[1:28:43] Conor: We are four years in.

[1:28:47] Brea: I always wonder that about TV shows in general, when you see a character just say something that is so just not them six seasons in. It's like, surely the actor often turns around and is like, guys—

[1:28:56] Conor: But like, it's not even like the actor. I'm thinking about like, everybody. That like, it's like, everybody who's involved in the production of this episode, that it's like, nobody—nobody was like, um, I don't know. I don't think actually, this would be a Rachel song.

[1:29:11] Brea: It sounds—it sounds to me like, well, there definitely are people that say that. And normally, the ones you hear about are the ones that have been actors forever and have a huge stacked career behind their belt that they feel like they can say things like that.

[1:29:31] Conor: Yeah.

[1:29:31] Brea: It sounds to me like with—when it comes to Ryan Murphy productions, there does seem to be a theme. He doesn't like people to change stuff very much. And—

[1:29:40] Conor: Yeah, that's true.

[1:29:41] Brea: And if you get some input, you better have a really close in with him for whatever reason. So I suspect—

[1:29:47] Conor: Well, I feel like it's so true, because I feel like Kevin and Jana have referenced this with like script supervisors. And when they've been talking about production of certain episodes, that the script supervisor, whose name escapes me—

[1:29:58] Brea: Telly.

[1:29:59] Conor: Would—is it Telly? I don't think it is Telly.

[1:30:02] Brea: Are you talking about Telly? Because I remember like, Telly brought up in one of the episodes that—

[1:30:06] Conor: I feel like one of the main script supervisors is a woman.

[1:30:10] Brea: Oh, I just—I'm recalling that like Telly brought up in an episode that people were upset that Quinn said that the train ticket, the train ticket that she gave to Rachel in Thanksgiving, she says Rachel gave it to her. And Telly was like, I'm—he was responsible. He was taking responsibility for that. Anyway, go on.

[1:30:37] Conor: Right. The point I'm making is, is that I believe that if you were to pull up a script for any episode of Glee, that literally what is on the page is quite literally word for word what is said on screen. Whereas with other TV shows, there are times, and maybe it doesn't happen often, where the actor will say, I'm going to the store. Do you want anything? As opposed to, do you want anything? I'm going to the store.

[1:31:03] Brea: But with Ryan Murphy Productions, it is quite literally word for word for word for word that he's very particular about that because he also doesn't use ADR.

[1:31:12] Conor: Oh, that's true.

[1:31:14] Brea: Which is super interesting. And I actually know, not to get too off point, of a really, really, really glaringly bad use of ADR on Glee.

[1:31:25] Conor: Where?

[1:31:26] Brea: And once you notice it, you can't—it's so—it's so bad the way it's done.

[1:31:33] Conor: I'm thinking of one. What is the one you're thinking of?

[1:31:35] Brea: So the one I'm thinking of is in season two, episode 21, Funeral.

[1:31:40] Conor: Oh, that's the one I'm thinking of, where they're talking about—

[1:31:44] Brea: Have I brought this up in the podcast?

[1:31:45] Conor: No, because I'm thinking about it because I heard Ian talk about it on Recovering Gleek.

[1:31:50] Brea: Okay.

[1:31:50] Conor: Yeah.

[1:31:51] Brea: I've been aware of this for years and a friend of mine, Michelle, shout out to Michelle, she's an actress, she actually has an ADR—she runs an ADR company in Ireland. And I remember bringing up to her one time, oh my god, I just found out that Ryan Murphy shows don't use any ADR. And she was like, what? That's great.

[1:32:09] Conor: Like she's doing—she just finished ADR for the second season of Wednesday.

[1:32:13] Brea: Wait, have we properly explained what ADR is?

[1:32:16] Conor: So ADR is basically when they add in audio in post-production, because maybe a line was missed or whatever, or something. So they will get the actor into the booth and the actor will like watch the scene and then add on the line, for example, and like try to emote at the same level that they were in the scene. It's very hard to do. It's quite complex.

[1:32:44] Brea: But in Glee, there is a scene between Rachel and Finn in the penultimate episode of season two in which they're talking in the hallway. And Rachel says to Finn, how come you're not trying out for the solo at Nationals? And then she goes, Mercedes, Santana and Kurtur.

[1:33:02] Conor: But what happens on screen is Rachel says to Finn, how come you're not trying out for the solo at Nationals? And then there's a close up of Corey. And you hear Leah in the background and she says, Mercedes, Santana and Kurtur.

[1:33:14] Brea: But it's so obviously Leah in the booth.

[1:33:16] Conor: It is so, like the audio literally changes.

[1:33:23] Brea: It's like really, really bad.

[1:33:24] Conor: But I bet you there's more examples of ADR.

[1:33:26] Brea: I'm thinking of, OK, so I'm thinking of, I don't know if I really have proof of this actually being ADR. I'm thinking of Vash when they're looking at the end of the episode when Blaine and Kurt are at the little kind of, not memorial because he doesn't die, but they're looking at the thing on the sidewalk, you know, honoring the guy who got beat up. That, like, it's showing that the flowers and everything. And Blaine says, I think he's going to be OK.

[1:34:00] Conor: Like, he survived or something.

[1:34:00] Brea: And it doesn't show, like Darren Criss saying that, that I'm like, oh, they needed to add that in to, like, kind of put a cap on, no, he's alive and we can continue on with the next episode.

[1:34:13] Conor: Yeah, so that's, that's it. And I know that Jenna has talked about, like, she, the only time that she had to do ADR was at the beginning of Yes, No, that when she was, like, talking to Mercedes and she's like, tell us, tell us about your, like, summer with Sam or something. Like, that's the only time that Jenna had to go do ADR.

[1:34:33] Brea: It's pretty incredible.

[1:34:35] Conor: It's nuts that it wasn't needed more with a show like this, with so many moving parts and so much music and whatnot.

[1:34:41] Brea: It is crazy that they didn't have more. And that just goes back to show. I really think that Ryan Murphy is just very, he doesn't play around with his scripts and, you know.

[1:34:51] Conor: Well, I'm thinking, of course, about, like, when we're talking about, like, changing lines that I'm thinking about. I'm not sure if y'all have seen this. I haven't watched the entire series, but the new normal, when, like, Andrew Rannell's character is a showrunner of a TV show about Ugly Club. And all of the, yeah, all of the characters have, like, their names are rhymes with, you know, like, I think, like, instead of Kevin, it was Devin.

[1:35:18] Brea: And so, yeah.

[1:35:19] Conor: And I think that, like, whoever, like, the Diana counterpart came up to Andrew Rannell's and was like, I don't think that my character would say this. And I think that Andrew Rannell's is, like, essentially, fuck off. Like, this is what I wrote.

[1:35:31] Brea: We don't talk about, we don't talk about Sing in the new normal.

[1:35:38] Conor: Oh, no, it's actually crazy that they were, like, that they so blatantly did that.

[1:35:43] Brea: So blatantly. There's so many little eggs in there.

[1:35:46] Conor: If you want to know what the behind the scenes was like on Glee, just watch that particular episode.

[1:35:50] Brea: Like, everyone put their phones away apart from Clea. You can do whatever you want or something like that.

[1:35:53] Conor: Like, what the fuck?

[1:35:57] Brea: Like, what the fuck?

[1:35:59] Conor: It's so crazy.

[1:36:00] Brea: Maybe you shouldn't find something about that to put in the carousel.

[1:36:03] Conor: Oh, that will be in the carousel, thank you.

[1:36:04] Brea: Because no one's talking about her.

[1:36:05] Conor: No one's talking about her.

[1:36:08] Brea: But yeah, super interesting that, yeah, about the lines and stuff like that. Because that is an episode. That is a question I asked Kevin and Jen on my episode of That's What You Really Miss. But it's super interesting because they would say the line word for word. But then I would say, would you ever get any direction on, like, tone and delivery in terms of, like, you would deliver the line in one way, but maybe the joke didn't land? Would you ever?

[1:36:31] Conor: No.

[1:36:32] Brea: No, yeah. They were kind of, like, they were just like, well, we, like, 99.99999% of the time, it was just the way we said it. It was in the final thought, which is also remarkable.

[1:36:43] Conor: Yes.

[1:36:44] Brea: Talking to Samuel Larson.

[1:36:46] Conor: And he, like, specifically said that, like, it was, like, very difficult on Glee, the timing of the lines that, like, he would need to, is, like, you couldn't, like, take your time or, like, have, like, kind of, like, fun with the pacing. I'm not an actor, of course, but, like, the pacing of the line that you were given, like, it needed to be very quick. Like, you needed to get through the line quick on the show because, like, each episode is so packed with so much.

[1:37:13] Brea: So packed.

[1:37:14] Conor: That, like, Samuel Larson line needs to just be, like, just—

[1:37:21] Brea: Yeah, I can definitely relate to that as an actor myself, just in terms of whenever I've been working on a commercial, for example, just say, if you have a considerable amount of dialogue in a commercial, and, you know, someone might ask you a question, and maybe in the commercial, maybe you have to think about your response if someone asks your character something, and then you have to be, like, uh...

[1:37:40] Conor: Like, they're really strict in commercials as well.

[1:37:42] Brea: They're, like, okay, Conor, I know that that makes sense as an action choice, but, like, this is a 30-second advert. You can't—

[1:37:48] Conor: Right.

[1:37:48] Brea: So then it's so hard to perform it because you're, like, well, I have to, like, think about...

[1:37:51] Conor: It's not coming from a true place.

[1:37:53] Brea: Yeah, it's so weird. Like, it's so odd. So, yeah, I'd imagine with... Like, also, Glee was obviously such a big fucking show that it's, like, no, what's written on that page is working for a reason, so you better stick to what you...

[1:38:06] Conor: But then again, on the other hand...

[1:38:08] Brea: I just can't imagine, like Leah, Matthew and Jane in particular, were never like, this isn't right. I mean, like, I'm of course thinking about like, and I'm sure that people are already thinking of this, that Amber revealed in the past year that like, the virginity plotline in season five, the way that that was written was that at the end of the season, you know, Mercedes did lose her virginity to Sam and Amber, you know, put her foot down and was like, this isn't actually true to the character and I don't want to do this. And of course, it wasn't included. And so there is like, kind of like a leeway there. It's not like finite, you know, one way or the other. So I don't know. It's all really interesting.

How did we get here? How did we get here? I will tell you how we got here. We got here with the Tina line. We are going to sing what Rachel would sing in this situation, the song of the summer, Call Me Maybe. And then we went through a rabbit hole of like, okay, why didn't Jenna Ushkowitz, why didn't Jenna Ushkowitz say anything? Yeah, Jenna. You can ask her that on the next episode. Are we allowed to talk about this? She absolutely probably did say something. And that's why she got done the way she did. Come on. We all know it. Right. No, exactly. That's true.

[1:39:30] Conor: Can I just ask, just whilst we're on, what is happening with And That's What You Really Missed? Do you listen to the podcast, Brie? It's okay not to put you in the hot seat.

[1:39:38] Brea: No, I do. I do.

[1:39:41] Conor: Oh, okay.

[1:39:43] Brea: I listen to it less and less these days. Like I used to be like super into it, but as the seasons go on, there's less and less stuff I'm interested in.

[1:39:53] Conor: Why are you guys asking? Why are you asking? I know why I feel weird about it. Why do you guys feel weird about it?

[1:40:00] Brea: No, I don't feel weird about it. It's just that as of recording tomorrow, it's the final recap episode, they're recapping Dreams Come True. And I'm just like, wait, is that the end of the podcast?

[1:40:08] Conor: They have plans of doing something else.

[1:40:09] Brea: Oh, you guys are asking what's going to happen.

[1:40:13] Conor: Oh, no.

[1:40:14] Brea: Yeah.

[1:40:15] Conor: Well, so they've got plans to do. Can you reveal that? Because, well, by the time that the episode comes, this episode comes out, we'll know.

[1:40:21] Brea: Oh, that's true. Well, we'll see what the Monday release is after. But like, also, I have a recording with them on August 6th to do the concert, Glee Live, which I need to start working on, of the entire catalog of Glee songs.

[1:40:37] Conor: Oh, shit.

[1:40:43] Brea: Wow. It's a tall order, but a very fun assignment. So, yeah, I'm curious what they're going to do. Very, very curious. Because it sounds like they want to keep on doing it.

[1:40:54] Conor: I'm trying to think of another podcast hosted by two actors, a recap rewatch podcast of a show that's ended and they've continued going on.

[1:41:00] Brea: I don't, what do the Office Ladies do?

[1:41:07] Conor: They're kind of like, that's the one that people.

[1:41:10] Brea: Oh, yeah. The Office Ladies one is meant to be, and I don't watch The Office, but it's meant to be an amazing podcast. The way that they recap their episodes of The Office were apparently so, like, in-depth, so detailed, even the biggest fans were walking away with information that they didn't really know.

[1:41:30] Conor: Yeah.

[1:41:31] Brea: Like, and that is great. But do you know what they did after they were, are they done this series?

[1:41:34] Conor: I didn't know they were done.

[1:41:35] Brea: Are they done?

[1:41:36] Conor: I don't know. Did The Office run for longer than Glee?

[1:41:40] Brea: I don't know.

[1:41:41] Conor: Anyway.

[1:41:42] Brea: I mean, I feel like.

[1:41:43] Conor: Maybe, maybe they'll recap every episode of The Office, because Kevin was in that one episode.

[1:41:47] Brea: That's, well, Kevin, of course, was in that one episode. So maybe.

[1:41:50] Conor: They'll just get you that episode and then they'll stop.

[1:41:52] Brea: I feel like, and that's what you really miss is always going to be weird, because they started off as showmance, which that was a bit of a stretch of a concept for a podcast to begin with, as far as sustainability goes to begin with. And then they transitioned it into the Glee cap. And then they just went ahead and started over and pretended like they hadn't already, like, recapped all of season one.

[1:42:18] Conor: You know, who knows?

[1:42:21] Brea: It's super interesting. They need to just bite the bullet and get Ryan Murphy back on.

[1:42:24] Conor: Oh, I'm thinking that will hopefully happen once more. And also, I'm like weirdly optimistic about a possible Leah appearance.

[1:42:37] Brea: Really?

[1:42:38] Conor: I don't know. I know that we're, of course, talking about Call Me Maybe. I just want to remind people that we're talking about Call Me Maybe. I have noticed, like, not me being parasocial, but I have noticed Jenna interacting more with Leah online. And also, I think that it's, like, I'm very excited about, like, the Kevin announcement for multiple reasons, but also because that they're going to be the same Broadway season that I'm thinking, like, they're going to share space.

[1:43:05] Brea: That's what I said.

[1:43:06] Conor: Yeah.

[1:43:07] Brea: That's what I said to you. I was like, are we going to be seeing a Kevin and Leah interaction in The Year of Our Lords in 2025, which is very interesting in and of itself.

[1:43:15] Conor: Sorry, not to get even further off topic, I just want to say really quickly, really, really quickly, I'm so sorry, now that we're in this space, the marketing campaign so far for Chess is truly so bizarre. It's really, really bizarre. I'm not saying I dislike it. I'm just, I kind of get a jump scare every time I go into Instagram and I see Leah's profile picture on the story grid. It's, like, kind of spooky.

[1:43:36] Brea: Now, she's sort of in cunt, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying she looks bad or anything. She's over a chessboard.

[1:43:41] Conor: Isn't she, like, looming over a chessboard?

[1:43:43] Brea: Yeah. They're really, yeah, they're really leaning into the challengers of it all, which I just find very odd.

[1:43:49] Conor: I thought that was such a, what a, I thought that was, I thought the same exact thing, that I thought that was, like, very interesting that they actually, like, outwardly, like, use the challengers, like, soundtrack for a post or something.

[1:44:01] Brea: Soundtrack, yeah. I'm like, oh, we're actually doing it. Like, we're actually, like, acknowledging that this is, I don't know. Like, that seems like an outside joke, not an inside joke.

[1:44:11] Conor: But, yeah.

[1:44:13] Brea: And also, I know that people have, like, had, we're talking about the chess marketing materials in relation to Call Me Maybe. But I know that people have also brought up the pink font.

[1:44:27] Conor: I don't know. People have taken pause with that.

[1:44:30] Brea: But, okay. Do we want to? Jenna, do you know what? You're coming to the end of the podcast now, babes. So, what you need to do, take an extended break, and you need to get a maybe happy ending. Call up your little friend.

[1:44:41] Conor: Oh, my God. I need it so bad.

[1:44:43] Brea: Call up Darren Criss on the phone and be like, hey, babes, I know an Asian-American actress that would fit the bill that was actually auditioning. She's talked about, like, that she was, like, in, because, like, this show has been in production for a number of years. And apparently, there was a point in time where, like, Jenna was involved or reading for or something. So, she's part of the universe.

[1:45:05] Conor: She's part of the universe.

[1:45:06] Brea: Anyway, speaking of Jenna, she's one of four performers here in this final song of the episode, Call Me Maybe. I feel like we didn't really talk all too much. Is there anything more to say about it, though?

[1:45:18] Conor: We're not talking about it enough.

[1:45:20] Brea: And then, we just don't talk about it.

[1:45:22] Conor: Right.

[1:45:23] Brea: Then, we talk about ADR.

[1:45:25] Conor: We talk about Chess's marketing.

[1:45:27] Brea: Not the ADR.

[1:45:30] Conor: We talk about Andrew Reynolds.

[1:45:32] Brea: It's so cute.

[1:45:33] Conor: Yeah.

[1:45:34] Brea: It really is.

[1:45:35] Conor: Yeah.

[1:45:36] Brea: I really do really like it.

[1:45:38] Conor: A hundred percent.

[1:45:39] Brea: Yeah. I really like it.

[1:45:41] Conor: Yeah.

[1:45:42] Brea: And I have to pick up on Bree's point earlier on when she was saying, obviously, this was her first season premiere, like, watching it live. And I was so excited. Andrew, you and I have definitely talked about this before. Season four, episode one, it was so, like, okay. Like, here we go. New blood. Interesting. New character. Okay. They spend their time. It really is exciting. Like, if I had watched season four, episode one, and then to this day in 2025, I had not seen the rest of the show, I'd be like, guys, I'm going to need the next episode right now because I'm invested here.

[1:46:19] Conor: And Call Me Maybe, Glee's premiere episodes, in my opinion, are always stronger than the finale episodes.

[1:46:26] Brea: Yeah.

[1:46:27] Conor: With the exception of maybe five.

[1:46:29] Brea: Oh, I would say, yeah.

[1:46:32] Conor: Yeah.

[1:46:33] Brea: With the exception of maybe five.

[1:46:34] Conor: Maybe five.

[1:46:36] Brea: I think that the writers are really good at setting things up and laying a foundation for the next front half of the season. I think they're really good at doing that. They do it expertly in season three, episode one. They do it expertly in season two, episode one. Really brilliant stuff there in particular. And season four, I would include in that. Even season six, when they basically, in Loser Like Me, when they strip everything away from those fucking characters, namely Rachel and Blaine, and put them back in square one, I'm like, okay, people might not like it, but okay, we're back here now, let's see where the next 12 episodes go.

[1:47:15] Conor: In the season six premiere, just Loser Like Me, because of course they aired back-to-back Loser Like Me and Homecoming, but Loser Like Me is really, really interesting and so different from every other episode of the series to me personally, because it does feel like a character study on Rachel specifically, that it's like, and we don't have a B-plot of like, oh, well, Santana doing this, or like, Mercedes doing this. It's just like, it really does feel hyper-focused on Rachel, and it's like, hey, we are going to strip away everything that this character has been working for for five seasons, and this is the motivation toward this very clear finale that is 12 episodes later.

[1:47:58] Brea: Yes, but I loved it. I don't know, it's really interesting.

[1:48:00] Conor: I loved it.

[1:48:01] Brea: We needed that.

[1:48:02] Conor: We needed that with Rachel.

[1:48:03] Brea: We really, really did.

[1:48:04] Conor: Yeah.

[1:48:05] Brea: And I was excited about it, because I was one of the lesser camp that was like, of course she quit Broadway. That made total sense to me. So I was like, here we go. Let's see it. Like, I was waiting for that storyline. And Call Me Maybe was very reminiscent of that kind of excitement to a premiere episode. And I was like, okay, like, there's four characters here that we don't really see interact a lot musically. We obviously have Unique, who's essentially brand new to the show. Like, it was really interesting to me. It's such a gorgeously shot episode. I really enjoy it.

[1:48:36] Conor: Like, this song was a song that I was obsessed with. I particularly loved New York State of Mind in the episode. So when Call Me Maybe came along, I was like, okay, actually, I had my doubts about season four. But actually, this is exciting.

[1:48:52] Brea: Wait, sorry, finish your thought.

[1:48:55] Conor: No, no, no. You go finish.

[1:48:57] Brea: No, I just like, I want to bring up a qualm that just appeared to me in my mind. I don't believe for a second that Sugar Mata wouldn't involve herself in this competition.

[1:49:11] Conor: You said it.

[1:49:12] Brea: Yeah. Right? You said it.

[1:49:14] Conor: You said it.

[1:49:16] Brea: What are we doing? And I understand Vanessa Lengies is a main cast. So we're like not making her do as much.

[1:49:24] Conor: She's kind of-

[1:49:25] Brea: Can Vanessa Lengies sing?

[1:49:27] Conor: Vanessa Lengies can sing.

[1:49:29] Brea: So-

[1:49:30] Conor: She can sing?

[1:49:31] Brea: I've never actually heard her sing.

[1:49:33] Conor: Wait a minute. I know that people have been like, Vanessa Lengies can sing. But I actually don't know.

[1:49:39] Brea: Of course, she's featured in very, very few songs. Survivor, I Will Survive, with the Watts. She's in Cellblock Tango. She's in Love Shack. But beyond that, someone point me to a very good Vanessa Lengies singing. There has to be one out there.

[1:50:00] Conor: I don't think she has one, ugly.

[1:50:01] Brea: I think that it's been said on, and that's what you really missed, that she can sing. I feel like Kevin and Jenna have made comments that she can sing and whatnot. But I don't think we have one.

[1:50:12] Conor: There was one-

[1:50:13] Brea: Do we have something?

[1:50:15] Conor: I don't think we do.

[1:50:17] Brea: Am I wrong?

[1:50:18] Conor: I'll do some research after this recording. And if I find something, it will, of course, be included in the carousel.

[1:50:25] Brea: A beautiful video of Vanessa Lengies singing.

[1:50:29] Conor: It's gotta be like somebody taking a cell phone video of her at Dimples in L.A.

[1:50:34] Brea: Right, yeah. Doing karaoke. But I just think that it would have been so much fun to see Sugar involved in this performance. I think that it would just, I don't know, would have even been cherry on top.

[1:50:46] Conor: She's gone, right? She's not at the ep at all, right?

[1:50:49] Brea: She's in this episode.

[1:50:50] Conor: She is?

[1:50:51] Brea: Yeah, she's in this.

[1:50:54] Conor: Oh.

[1:50:55] Brea: And I thought, I remember specifically, I loved the writing of this entire episode. I loved the utilization of Sugar in this episode. I think she only has one line. And the one line is like, when Marley comes in and she's like wearing, you know, her clothes that she's sewing labels on, designing the labels. And I just thought it was so smart that they used Sugar to be the one that's like, Um, actually, are you sure that's actually what you say it is?

[1:51:29] Conor: Oh, right. Okay.

[1:51:30] Brea: I just thought that was very smart. Did she also say that the infamous, he is so sexy?

[1:51:36] Conor: Oh, yeah, of course.

[1:51:37] Brea: How could we forget?

[1:51:38] Conor: No, he's not.

[1:51:39] Brea: Yes, he is.

[1:51:40] Conor: Yes, he is.

[1:51:41] Brea: Jake Booker.

[1:51:42] Conor: The iconic, just Jake.

[1:51:43] Brea: Just Jake. I will tell you guys one last thing before we move on. Sorry.

[1:51:45] Conor: Yeah.

[1:51:47] Brea: You brought up Jake. And I just have to tell you, last time I was on this podcast, I told you that me and my mom had years ago, watched the first three seasons of Glee together. And we recently got started on season four.

[1:52:03] Conor: And I was like, I'll tell you her opinions on season four. And I thought she was going to have all stakeholders. Because my mind was.

[1:52:10] Brea: And she's a woman of moral authority. Like she had the voice of somebody like to who.

[1:53:09] Andrew: Welcome back to Gleek of the Week! Today, we have Brea and Conor joining us again.

[1:53:39] Brea: Thanks for having us back!

[1:54:09] Conor: Yeah, it's great to be here.

[1:54:39] Andrew: So, let's dive into this episode. We have a lot to discuss, especially regarding Blaine and Finn's mental health.

[1:54:59] Brea: Absolutely. I think it's such an important topic that Glee touches on, and it’s interesting to see how they handle it.

[1:55:19] Conor: Right, and I think the way they portray these characters is really impactful.

[1:55:49] Andrew: For sure. And we also have to talk about Vanessa Lengies' singing.

[1:56:09] Brea: Yes! I love her voice. She brings so much energy to her performances.

[1:56:29] Conor: I agree. Her character really shines in this episode.

[1:56:49] Andrew: And let's not forget about Glee's use of ADR. It’s fascinating how they incorporate it into the show.

[1:57:09] Brea: Definitely! Sometimes it’s really noticeable, but other times it blends in seamlessly.

[1:57:29] Conor: It’s a crucial part of the production, especially for musical numbers.

[1:57:49] Andrew: Speaking of musical numbers, let’s get into the performances from this episode.

[1:58:09] ♪ Musical number: "Any Way You Want It / Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[2:00:09] Andrew: That was such a fun mashup! What did you guys think?

[2:00:29] Brea: I loved it! The energy was infectious.

[2:00:49] Conor: Same here! It really set the tone for the episode.

[2:01:09] Andrew: Now, let’s move on to "Call Me Maybe."

[2:01:29] ♪ Musical number: "Call Me Maybe" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[2:02:37] Andrew: That was a classic! Such a catchy song.

[2:02:57] Brea: It really is. I can’t help but sing along every time.

[2:03:17] Conor: It’s one of those songs that just sticks with you.

[2:03:37] Andrew: Now, let’s talk about "Christmas Wrapping."

[2:03:57] ♪ Musical number: "Christmas Wrapping" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[2:04:17] Andrew: That was a nice holiday touch!

[2:04:37] Brea: I love how they incorporate seasonal songs into the show.

[2:04:47] Conor: It adds a lot of charm to the episodes.

[2:04:57] Andrew: And finally, we have "Survivor / I Will Survive."

[2:05:07] ♪ Musical number: "Survivor / I Will Survive" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[2:05:27] Andrew: What a powerful performance!

[2:05:37] Brea: Absolutely! It really showcases the strength of the characters.

[2:05:47] Conor: I think it’s one of the highlights of the episode.

[2:05:57] Andrew: Well, that wraps up our discussion on the performances. Thank you both for joining me today!

[2:06:07] Brea: Thanks for having us!

[2:06:10] Conor: Always a pleasure!