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[0:00] Andrew: Welcome back to our fifth episode of Gleek of the Week.

[0:07] Allison: Over the hill.

[0:08] Andrew: Um, I, as the Gleek listeners know, I checked out season five DVDs from the library.

[0:17] Allison: They are sitting. This is an audio medium, but you can see my DVD player right there, sitting on the ground in my bedroom.

[0:23] Andrew: I don't see it, but okay.

[0:25] Allison: Oh, well, it's there. You just have to believe me.

[0:27] Andrew: I'm looking at it right now.

[0:29] Allison: Um, I started watching season five.

[0:34] Allison: When Netflix went off the air, I was about to finish season four when Netflix went off the air.

[0:40] Andrew: Yeah.

[0:40] Allison: When Glee went off of Netflix.

[0:42] Allison: I was about to finish season four.

[0:45] Allison: Um, I had just watched the "I Do."

[0:49] Allison: I had just watched, um, Finn at college.

[0:54] Allison: Um, I don't remember the McKinley storyline, but it had a thing, something was happening.

[1:00] Andrew: Uh-huh.

[1:01] Allison: Um.

[1:02] Allison: So I started watching season five, and I was texting you during this.

[1:06] Allison: I was like, why does this look like it was shot like a movie?

[1:11] Andrew: I okay, I do think that season five does look like a cartoon.

[1:15] Allison: I've said this before, and I do think that like the characters' costumes, costumes, I guess, yeah, costumes.

[1:23] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:23] Allison: Um, what they're wearing in the episodes are very bright.

[1:27] Allison: It's constantly Easter at McKinley High.

[1:30] Allison: Um, and it does bother me.

[1:33] Andrew: I don't know.

[1:34] Andrew: I think the way, like, you've texted me about this so many times that I think that it might just be a your TV issue.

[1:41] Allison: Yeah, no, I yeah.

[1:44] Allison: My TV is definitely, well, and it's DVDs.

[1:46] Allison: Like it's old-ass DVDs on an old-ass DVD player on an old-ass TV.

[1:52] Allison: So it, uh, the quality of the image is definitely different.

[1:58] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:59] Allison: My thing is that isn't it supposed to be like winter in Lima, Ohio?

[2:04] Allison: So like I don't understand season four and season five.

[2:08] Allison: If you were to actually like put a gun to my head and ask me what time of year is this, what time of year is this, I would never be able to tell you.

[2:18] Andrew: Uh, I simply have no idea because I think the way that season four begins is like, okay, sectionals happens at the same, like, episode number as like seasons one through three.

[2:33] Andrew: You know, like sectionals happens at that time, like episode eight or nine or whatever that is, but then like regionals doesn't happen until the end of season four.

[2:46] Allison: So it's like, I don't, are we just seeing more, I guess, I mean like I guess we see more content of this school year than seasons past, right?

[2:58] Allison: And it's weird.

[2:59] Allison: I mean, I literally watched the new episode of Euphoria last night, and then went straight into an episode of Glee.

[3:07] Allison: So I was kind of like comparing and contrasting, and what Euphoria did, I don't know if they did this on purpose, but the first season is like September through December, right?

[3:19] Allison: And then the new season started in January and it aired in January, so it kind of makes sense, but they look remarkably older, is the, I mean, um, Hunter Schafer especially.

[3:31] Andrew: Yeah, yeah.

[3:34] Allison: But with Glee, Lima, Ohio is permanently in the summertime.

[3:39] Allison: Even when they faked winter in what, will like goes to get Emma.

[3:46] Allison: Um, and what do they sing outside of her window?

[3:49] Andrew: The song from Saint?

[3:50] Allison: That's, um, "In Your Eyes."

[3:52] Allison: Haven't pulled that yet.

[3:54] Allison: I'm not excited.

[3:56] Allison: We have so many Wolos.

[3:57] Andrew: Are we gonna call them Wallos?

[3:59] Allison: Are we gonna call them sho Los?

[4:03] Andrew: Way off.

[4:04] Allison: Way off in the comments.

[4:07] Andrew: I'll make a poll.

[4:09] Allison: Yeah, I don't understand it because season five, I think you just watched season five, episode two as well.

[4:15] Andrew: Yep.

[4:16] Allison: Um, where prom happens, and okay, in season two and three, there is just one episode between prom and nationals, but there's like six, I think even like seven episodes.

[4:32] Allison: I don't know, like there's so many episodes between prom and nationals that it's like for what?

[4:38] Andrew: I like when you went to prom I already had my last day of school when I went to prom.

[4:45] Allison: I famously didn't go to prom, but prom happened before, um, before the end of the year.

[4:51] Allison: It happened at like the end of May, and then there was two weeks, and then seniors were done, and then there was two weeks, and then there was the end of school.

[4:59] Andrew: Okay.

[5:00] Andrew: I think from what I remember of high school.

[5:02] Allison: And when did you go to Nationals?

[5:04] Andrew: I went to Nationals actually the day before prom.

[5:07] Andrew: It was kind of crazy because the Glee Club had to go straight from New York City Nationals into, uh, prom.

[5:14] Allison: It's great.

[5:15] Andrew: Honestly, I had a track meet the day after prom and I like was like, well, can't do anything crazy after prom because I have a track meet the next.

[5:24] Andrew: I'm like, I wasn't fucking invited to anything, so I'm like, I don’t know who the fuck I'm trying to impress.

[5:29] Andrew: I wasn't invited to any drinking festivities, so guess what?

[5:32] Andrew: Yeah, I'm ready for the track meet.

[5:34] Allison: Oh my god, and this is the saddest story ever.

[5:37] Andrew: Probably no, it's definitely not.

[5:39] Allison: Um, but I had my last track meet ever, I lost my track singlet.

[5:44] Allison: So I don't have my track singlet anymore.

[5:46] Allison: I had my track singlet all throughout high school and I lost it at my last track meet.

[5:51] Allison: And I'm like, that is literally like the universe telling me, like, okay, leave this shit behind.

[5:55] Andrew: You need to be done.

[5:56] Allison: Yeah, you're done.

[5:57] Andrew: Would you have wanted to keep it?

[6:00] Allison: Yeah, why not?

[6:01] Allison: I have like the, I have the, um, track shorts, and I'm like, this is worth nothing, you know?

[6:07] Allison: All that this has is my ass sweat from single.

[6:09] Andrew: Right.

[6:10] Allison: Exactly.

[6:11] Allison: But no, I don't have my singlet anymore.

[6:13] Allison: If you have it, any clicks happen.

[6:18] Andrew: Anybody in New Jersey has a singlet that they found at a track meet in 2014, um, one thing, I was thinking about this on my drive home.

[6:29] Allison: I do a lot of thinking while driving to and from work because my commute is so long.

[6:33] Allison: My commute is about, I'm about to move, and my commute is going to be like 10 minutes long, and I'm not gonna have time for all these thoughts.

[6:41] Allison: And so I don't know if I'm gonna come to the podcast with content, but since I did have time to think something to look forward to, everyone.

[6:41] Allison: Since I did have time to think today, I thought so.

[6:55] Allison: When I was texting you about the first two episodes of season five, I was like, I don't want to watch this.

[7:01] Allison: Like this.

[7:02] Andrew: Even though, like, you've said on record that you're a stan of the Beatles episodes.

[7:07] Allison: You've said that.

[7:08] Andrew: I know, I've said that before, but I think I'm a stan of the recordings of the Beatles episodes.

[7:14] Allison: Okay.

[7:14] Andrew: I don't particularly like.

[7:17] Allison: I'm moving my microphone up.

[7:18] Allison: I didn't even realize it was down.

[7:20] Andrew: Oh, you sound so much better.

[7:22] Allison: I do?

[7:23] Andrew: Yeah.

[7:24] Andrew: Oh, fuck.

[7:27] Allison: Not like you've been sounding bad, but like you just sound so much clearer.

[7:31] Andrew: Oh, great.

[7:32] Allison: I thought I was listening to the podcast on Spotify on my way to work again.

[7:36] Allison: And I was like, I need a new microphone.

[7:38] Allison: Like, my microphone sounds like I'm underwater.

[7:40] Andrew: Oh, really?

[7:42] Allison: Maybe it's better now.

[7:43] Andrew: Okay.

[7:44] Andrew: Listen to this episode with Derik Nelson and let me know.

[7:46] Allison: Okay, I will.

[7:47] Allison: On Spotify.

[7:48] Andrew: Um, streaming now.

[7:49] Andrew: Support our Patreon.

[7:50] Allison: Um, I was thinking on my way home that they should have canceled the show after Cory died.

[7:58] Andrew: Oh.

[7:59] Allison: Oh, we're putting our hands over the mail.

[8:02] Andrew: Putting our hands over.

[8:04] Allison: Does it sound like I'm underwater now?

[8:05] Andrew: Yeah.

[8:06] Allison: Um, do I agree?

[8:08] Andrew: No, because I would have been devastated.

[8:09] Allison: I don't know what I would have done my senior year of high school.

[8:12] Allison: I don't care about my freshman year of college.

[8:14] Allison: I simply did not need season six during my freshman year of college, but I did need Glee during my senior year of high school.

[8:22] Andrew: It just made sense.

[8:25] Allison: I just watching the Beatles episodes, like watching Blaine propose to Kurt, really.

[8:32] Allison: I was like, Finn needs to be here.

[8:34] Allison: This doesn't make sense without Finn.

[8:37] Allison: Finn as a character would have been in this storyline.

[8:42] Allison: He would have been talking to Blaine as Kurt's brother.

[8:45] Andrew: Right.

[8:45] Allison: Um, it hurts my heart, and I can't, I can't step away from the fact that of what was going on in real life.

[8:54] Allison: Um, it's hard to watch.

[8:56] Allison: And I'm not gonna watch "The Quarterback."

[8:58] Andrew: I was thinking about it, I was like, should I watch "The Quarterback" before we record?

[9:03] Allison: Absolutely the fuck not.

[9:04] Andrew: You should not do that.

[9:05] Allison: I didn't do that.

[9:06] Allison: So you're just gonna skip it in your rewatch?

[9:08] Andrew: I think I'm gonna skip it in my rewatch.

[9:10] Andrew: I think I'm gonna watch "Seasons of Love" and then turn it off.

[9:14] Allison: Okay.

[9:15] Allison: Is that okay?

[9:16] Andrew: Uh, are you, do you want to watch the performances?

[9:20] Allison: All the performances?

[9:22] Andrew: Or just that one?

[9:23] Allison: No, I should, I should watch the episode.

[9:24] Allison: I've, I watched it semi-recently.

[9:26] Allison: I watched it with Gina when my roommate was rewatching.

[9:30] Allison: And so I've seen it recently.

[9:32] Allison: I know I'm emotionally prepared for it.

[9:35] Allison: I just don't think season five, there's no point.

[9:39] Andrew: I wish they, like, uh, knowing how I felt back then, I also would have been devastated if they canceled it.

[9:47] Allison: But story-wise, season five, no.

[9:50] Andrew: I watched "The Quarterback" and then I stopped.

[9:53] Andrew: Because for me, canon, that's it.

[9:55] Andrew: It's gone.

[9:57] Allison: Mm-hmm.

[9:58] Andrew: That makes sense.

[10:00] Andrew: Um, wait, do we wanna start?

[10:04] Andrew: We have three more minutes until our guest comes in.

[10:07] Andrew: Um, we wanna go over anything before he comes in or wrap up this conversation at all?

[10:18] Allison: Yeah, all I wanna say is that just to wrap up, just in summary, one, I do a lot of thinking in the car, and that's about to end.

[10:27] Andrew: Okay.

[10:28] Allison: Number two, season five at the beginning looks like it was shot like a movie.

[10:30] Allison: Um, Kurt and Blaine.

[10:33] Allison: This was another thing.

[10:35] Allison: The Gleeks are gonna hate me for this.

[10:35] Allison: Kurt and Blaine had absolutely no fucking chemistry in the first two episodes of season five.

[10:42] Andrew: Well, I don't think that Darren Criss and Chris Colfer are like actually, like, they famously just like don't make sense.

[10:49] Allison: As like, there was nothing there for me.

[10:51] Allison: The scene where they're sitting on the steps of McKinley High, which we have to go there, first of all.

[10:58] Andrew: Before our podcast ends, we need to go wherever that is.

[11:02] Allison: Well, that's an actual high school, so I don't know if we, I think we could portray 18-year-olds.

[11:02] Andrew: I think we could.

[11:10] Allison: I don't know.

[11:10] Allison: You literally looked at my ID last time that you were in New York, and you said you don't look like that anymore.

[11:15] Andrew: And I was like, fuck, are you kidding me?

[11:17] Allison: Like, I was under the impression that like I could play off as like 12.

[11:21] Andrew: I don't know.

[11:23] Allison: Um, they really, uh, I feel like I'm very negative.

[11:27] Allison: I'm bringing in a lot of negative vibes, and I'm talking about "The Quarterback."

[11:30] Andrew: I shouldn't be doing this going into the order.

[11:32] Allison: We're going into a guest, and I also need to pee before our guest comes in.

[11:36] Andrew: Say something to wrap up the.

[11:40] Allison: Okay.

[11:40] Allison: Um, Gleeks, Andrew has stepped out of the room to use the bathroom before our guest comes in.

[11:45] Allison: Um, all I want to say is that I'm sorry.

[11:47] Allison: I love Klaine.

[11:48] Allison: Klaine is like my everything.

[11:50] Allison: Um, they were my everything.

[11:52] Allison: I loved everything, I loved every moment, every little stolen look, every little kiss, like tattoo courage on my ass.

[11:59] Allison: However, the first episode when Blaine is like, I thought we were broken up.

[12:05] Allison: First of all, that's not Blaine for me.

[12:07] Allison: That's not Blaine.

[12:09] Allison: Um, that's not real to me.

[12:12] Allison: They really just had no chemistry, and that's why I wish they just hadn't even done it.

[12:17] Allison: It was just kind of meh.

[12:19] Andrew: Andrew's wearing shorts.

[12:20] Allison: Are these the track shorts?

[12:22] Andrew: What?

[12:23] Allison: You'll never know what I said.

[12:25] Andrew: You'll never know what I said.

[12:26] Allison: You said shorts?

[12:28] Andrew: No, I didn't.

[12:29] Allison: Oh.

[12:30] Andrew: Roll the intro music.

[12:33] Andrew: Glee.

[12:33] Andrew: Glee.

[12:35] Andrew: Gleek of the Week.

[12:36] Andrew: You might know his face from the background of the choir room at McKinley High.

[12:41] Andrew: We have the guitarist of the New Directions, Derik Nelson.

[12:44] Derik Nelson: How are you?

[12:45] Derik Nelson: Great. How is everyone doing out there?

[12:47] Derik Nelson: I'm so honored to be here on the show with you, Allison, and Andrew.

[12:51] Derik Nelson: Thank you for being such supportive Gleeks.

[12:54] Allison: Oh my god.

[12:57] Derik Nelson: I'm excited to be here with you and talk all things Glee.

[13:00] Allison: Oh my god.

[13:01] Derik Nelson: Thank you for being our Gleek of the Week.

[13:04] Derik Nelson: I'm honored.

[13:05] Derik Nelson: I love it.

[13:07] Derik Nelson: When you came in, like beginning of season three.

[13:10] Derik Nelson: Yeah.

[13:11] Derik Nelson: Where, how was this?

[13:13] Derik Nelson: Did you already know what Glee was?

[13:15] Derik Nelson: Were you already a fan?

[13:16] Derik Nelson: How did you come to So my uh you'll never see me in this performance, but my actual first date on Glee was the end of season two.

[13:24] Allison: Okay.

[13:25] Derik Nelson: Uh the I think it was Nationals at that point.

[13:29] Derik Nelson: And it was just giant Pristinium Theater, huge auditorium, and I'm like way like a speck in the background playing guitar.

[13:38] Derik Nelson: And so it was just supposed to be a one-time thing having me on.

[13:42] Derik Nelson: And uh they needed a second guitar player because it was a huge shoot.

[13:46] Derik Nelson: And um, anyway, so uh I got the call to uh to do it, and the funniest part, I uh my brother, my little brother is uh was a huge Glee fan.

[13:56] Derik Nelson: Watched every episode, and and uh and so I called him right away and I was like, dude, I'm gonna be playing guitar with Carlos Santana.

[13:56] Derik Nelson: Like what?

[13:56] Derik Nelson: And I was like, yeah, the call sheet says guitar Santana.

[14:11] Derik Nelson: That's like, no, you idiot what you need to watch the show before you like go and and do this this shoe that's the name of the character so obviously I had a a a large education waiting for me before I uh before I was actually on the show I got to look up on on season one and and uh get the lay of the land but um but yeah that was uh that was my first big moment getting to to uh come on the show that's amazing okay so you watched the entire like season one through season two before coming on to the the show do you have any like favorite numbers favorite performances from the series that like stood out oh man I mean honestly that first season is so good I mean just the way that it sets up the rest of the the series is um is just beautiful i i think probably the the um the standout moment for me that that comes to mind is uh i saw a meme about it where it's like mr shoe is so creepy listening in to to Finn in the showers but when you see that scene play out in like the context of what's happening it really is like a a cool poignant moment where it's like you you know the audience feels smart being like oh this is gonna be the guy like this is it right so then when when you know when Cory well Finn actually joins the glee club and you see that you know that big moment with don't stop believing it's like that's that's kind of the the foundational moment where the the whole show kind of takes off from so yeah uh that's the probably my favorite my favorite moment.

[15:55] Allison: I love that too I got I got hate for that really because I said I said that was one of my favorite performances yeah but when you when you just watch the scene it's a little jarring but it absolutely is but my friends this is why context is so important exactly missing from the conversation nowadays I think but you know that's why I think the context really matters and yeah and uh it's such a classic I mean that's that's glee in a nutshell right there is like that classic moment.

[16:27] Derik Nelson: Right.

[16:27] Derik Nelson: So yeah I mean you were in the choir room for like almost like all of those scenes oh I've logged days weeks of my life in that choir room choir room okay is there like a standout like craziest day craziest day um I mean definitely all of the like the Saturday night fever when we had the the you know the big disco light up dance floor was really cool.

[16:58] Derik Nelson: Um another crazy day that stands out to me and nobody knows this story but I've a lot of the diehard glee fans have given me a lot of crap about it um and I'll explain what happened um but the uh performance is shake it out okay and this is on my list yes oh shoot okay no go ahead I would like a moment to just set the record straight for what was actually going on so the way that it works is um at that point in time like glee was huge.

[17:32] Derik Nelson: It was the biggest show on TV.

[17:34] Derik Nelson: The storylines and the what was happening with each character arc was so I mean it was massive news to anyone on the inside.

[17:44] Derik Nelson: And so they they worked really hard from a storyline protection standpoint, security, if you will, to make sure that there were no spoilers leaked by anyone on the set.

[17:56] Derik Nelson: And especially when you're dealing with um huge amounts of background actors, you have all the people walking by in the background in the you know in the in the school, right?

[18:05] Derik Nelson: Um, you know, that there were hundreds of people on set for some days of of shooting.

[18:12] Derik Nelson: Um, so there was a very limited amount of information that they would even tell us about what the con again context, right?

[18:21] Derik Nelson: What the context of the scene was.

[18:24] Derik Nelson: So what we were told for this specific song was that uh it was um to be dedicated to uh Coach Beast, played by Dot Marie Jones, um, to cheer her up.

[18:37] Derik Nelson: It was like a a supportive song to cheer her up that the the girls were were getting together to do this song as a special thing for her, and we're like, okay, that's all we knew.

[18:46] Allison: Right.

[18:46] Derik Nelson: So the funniest part was it was supposed to be me and um the whole arrangement, it's a beautiful arrangement, and and one of my favorites actually from from looking back on the music we did, but it's just acoustic guitar and piano for the majority of of the song, and that's kind of how it's represented.

[19:03] Derik Nelson: So it was just supposed to be me and uh and Brad, the regular piano player, the older guy.

[19:12] Derik Nelson: And so it's me and Brad there, we get through hair and makeup, we already do the rehearsal.

[19:17] Derik Nelson: They're already like staging the the lighting, everything set up, and all again, all we know at this point is we're playing a nice sweet song as a surprise for Coach Beast to cheer her up.

[19:28] Derik Nelson: Great, awesome.

[19:30] Derik Nelson: So we get done with the rehearsal, and the director comes over.

[19:35] Derik Nelson: I think it was Brad Falchuk that was directing, and he he says, Um, we have a problem.

[19:40] Derik Nelson: Brad Ellis is not supposed to, he can't be in this scene because it's supposed to be a student.

[19:46] Derik Nelson: We need a student on piano because it conflicts with whatever blah blah blah continuity.

[19:51] Derik Nelson: Brad was gonna be in two places at the based on how they were gonna set this scene.

[19:56] Derik Nelson: They couldn't have Brad on piano.

[19:58] Derik Nelson: So the music uh coordinator who was um in charge of the basically my boss, uh, an amazing woman that uh worked so hard on that show to to um showcase amazing musicians.

[20:12] Derik Nelson: Uh she pulls me aside and she's like, This is shooting in literally half an hour.

[20:17] Derik Nelson: Like, we need a keyboard player that looks like a student on onset now.

[20:22] Derik Nelson: My regular guy is out of town.

[20:24] Derik Nelson: Like, do you have anybody?

[20:25] Derik Nelson: And I was like, I do.

[20:28] Derik Nelson: My again, my younger brother Dalton was at my place because it just so happens I was getting the carpets replaced at my at my apartment.

[20:37] Derik Nelson: And so I needed somebody there to like let everyone in and facilitate the whole like anyway, long story.

[20:44] Derik Nelson: So I called Dalton and I was like, dude, you need to get down here.

[20:50] Derik Nelson: Call a cab right now.

[20:52] Derik Nelson: You're coming to Paramount Pictures, you're gonna you need to play piano.

[20:56] Derik Nelson: We need you for this scene in glee.

[20:59] Derik Nelson: Yeah, uh, right now.

[21:00] Derik Nelson: And he's like, Oh, oh yeah, whatever, dude.

[21:03] Derik Nelson: Anyway, okay, I gotta go.

[21:04] Derik Nelson: Bye.

[21:05] Derik Nelson: And uh, and he hung up and I was like, No, no, no, no, he thinks it's like a prank.

[21:10] Derik Nelson: He thinks I'm just messing with him.

[21:11] Derik Nelson: So I called it back and was like, Dalton, I am serious, dude.

[21:14] Derik Nelson: Like, I'm not joking.

[21:16] Derik Nelson: Call a cab right now.

[21:17] Derik Nelson: I'm gonna send you the song.

[21:19] Derik Nelson: I'll help you with the chords when you get here, and and um, and show you the chart and and everything, and like listen to the song in the cab, and we're gonna like this is happening.

[21:29] Derik Nelson: He's like, Oh, oh, are you you're serious?

[21:31] Derik Nelson: I was like, Yes, dude, dead serious.

[21:34] Derik Nelson: Okay, okay, okay.

[21:36] Derik Nelson: So my god.

[21:39] Derik Nelson: 20 minutes later, my little brother shows up, and uh again, huge fan of the show.

[21:44] Derik Nelson: So he's like, freaking out.

[21:46] Derik Nelson: Yes.

[21:47] Derik Nelson: I was like, hey, Diana, this is my brother Dalton.

[21:50] Derik Nelson: I want you to um, so it was awesome.

[21:56] Derik Nelson: It it was so cool that like we got to be there together.

[21:59] Derik Nelson: Oh my gosh.

[22:00] Derik Nelson: He gets thrown into this situation, thrown into the fire, a song that he just learned in the cab on the way there, right, hasn't even had a chance to like you know figure it out on a real piano.

[22:11] Derik Nelson: So we have five minutes, and and you know, we get him trained up and we run the song a few times.

[22:16] Derik Nelson: And I'm like, okay, perfect, that's gonna work, it's gonna be great.

[22:18] Derik Nelson: And he's like, So what are we supposed to do?

[22:20] Derik Nelson: I was like, we're supposed to be like cheering up Coach B.

[22:24] Derik Nelson: So it's like a fun uplift, just look at me, we'll smile a lot, and like, you know, it's supposed to be really sweet.

[22:29] Derik Nelson: And um, sorry, this story is taking so long.

[22:32] Derik Nelson: I love this, I'm obsessed with this.

[22:35] Derik Nelson: At any point, if you're like, okay, too much, we don't need to know.

[22:39] Derik Nelson: Um, but it's fun to actually get to share the backstory to some of this stuff because then we shoot this scene, do a bunch of angles, and the funniest part, you guys, there was never a shot.

[22:51] Derik Nelson: And if you look closely, you'll you'll see that there was never a camera setup where we were seeing uh Dot Marie Jones in the same scene.

[23:02] Derik Nelson: So okay.

[23:03] Derik Nelson: We never actually saw her reaction because the camera's right there, right?

[23:07] Derik Nelson: As her almost.

[23:08] Derik Nelson: So obviously they cut it all together and make it nice and seamless, and it makes it seem like we're in the room the whole time.

[23:15] Derik Nelson: So the episode airs, and we're watching this play out horrified at what's coming.

[23:22] Derik Nelson: Because for those of our listeners or viewers out there who know which scene I'm talking about, this was a oh god, this was a domestic abuse situation.

[23:33] Allison: Yeah.

[23:34] Derik Nelson: And this is why they were trying to cheer her up, and my like stomach dropped out as I know what's coming.

[23:41] Derik Nelson: And for sure, then the scene, the song shows up, and here I am, just like, oh yeah, shake it out, shake it out, just grinning early ears.

[23:52] Derik Nelson: Oh my gosh.

[23:53] Derik Nelson: I have been dragged for that.

[23:54] Derik Nelson: They're like, why are you smiling so big in the background of a domestic abuse song?

[23:59] Derik Nelson: Oh, and uh so it really was like, yeah, I I we went back and I I spoke with like a few people on the on the script supervision side, and I was like, hey, I know you guys are like doing your job to try to make sure no spoilers get out there, but if we could get a little bit more of like the rest of the episode arc, yeah, so that this doesn't happen again, that would be super awesome.

[24:26] Derik Nelson: So from then on, they they always provided us with the with the script beforehand.

[24:31] Derik Nelson: And uh, but yeah, thankfully it it never was like a huge thing, um, other than in the fan at the fan level of like beat people who were like, Wait, what's happening here with the guitar player and his brother there are I mean I'm sure you've seen the compilations online of like the guitar the guitarist is just having the time of his life like Lea Michele's singing Big Girls Don't Cry and we're just like so into it yeah which be kind it kind of became my like trademark thing as like if anyone's paying attention in the background of the guitar guy like he's he's loving life right now yeah that was my way of of just you know I love music and I loved being there so it was really natural for me to just like kind of fall into like okay this is my this is my character you know he loves it he loves every song you know yeah he's here just loves to be a part of it that is amazing I mean my my last question was were you given any direction any official direction on any sort of character work or were you just this is who I am this is what I'm gonna do.

[25:38] Derik Nelson: So the way I can answer that is um the reason I became the regular guitar player and was offered the contract for the the full season and eventually the rest of the series I owe that not only to um the musician coordinator uh Christine but uh one of our directors Eric Stoltz and if you've seen a lot of the episodes that he did they're I mean incredible an amazing guy super fun and his style is is like he's a very playful guy and trial by fire.

[26:15] Derik Nelson: So uh again, the f after that that background scene on the end of season two, they brought me back.

[26:22] Derik Nelson: It was supposed to be again just be for one episode, one scene, and that was the the big food fight, purple piano project.

[26:29] Derik Nelson: Um we've got the beat.

[26:31] Derik Nelson: And um that was the first time that anyone really saw me on Glee. I owe that to Eric because it was a again, a huge shoot. We had hundreds of background actors, it takes place in the cafeteria, the whole school is there, it erupts into this big food fight. So the rehearsal pieces were very minimal based on the fact that we had to get a lot of things shot in a pretty short amount of time with wrangling all of these people that were involved, right? Um, especially with the food fight. That's a one-time deal. You can't just up and reset for the food fight. So um, so it was like if you're in the band, and especially if you're like a guest in the band, if you're not one of the regular um, like basically the three guys, it became me, uh John Locke and Scott Henson, uh drummer and bassist respectively, who were kind of the core, like we're the McKinley band.

And anyone auxiliary was kind of like it was I mean, you have to remember the hierarchy of Glee was huge because you're dealing with a star-studded cast who each of those individuals is like a phenom in their own right. So having all of this talent in one concentrated place, um, it made a situation where you really had to earn your your uh your ground to to be there.

[27:56] Derik Nelson: Yeah. Um not in a way that like anyone felt unwelcome, but it was like the the circle was small. The Glee family was was small because it had to be, you know, like this was where people were coming to work. It wasn't a a place for paparazzi and you know, and all of that. Right. Um, so anyway, so I was there to kind of like earn my stripes and and do my thing and be in the background and fill the role, right? We get done with the setup, and I was just in the background the whole time in the rehearsal. It comes time to shoot, and right beforehand, I'm watching Eric, and he pulls Leah aside and they're chatting, and then they both point to me, and then she points to me, and they're talking again, and I was just like, what is going on? And he kind of just smiles at her, and I see her nod, and then he looks back at me, and he's like, Okay, uh, pictures up. Uh, let's let's roll it.

[28:52] Derik Nelson: And they start shooting, we start the song. There's that guitar solo in the middle of the song. Oh, I forgot to mention before that took place. I'm so sorry this is out of order, it's been a little while. Um, Eric came over to me to introduce himself, and we had a really great conversation, and I thanked him for the opportunity to be there and was so excited to be there. And he's like, So, can you really play that thing? And I was like, the guitar? He's like, Yeah, I was like, Yeah, and I like drummed some stuff. He's like, Can you play that that guitar solo in the middle? And I was like, Yes. And I like, you know, shredded a little bit of it, and and uh he's like, Okay, okay, good. And then he walked away and pulled Leah aside. So you see where this is going. We're actually shooting, and uh halfway through as right before the guitar solo, Leo runs over to me, and we barely like aside from an introduction, like we didn't we didn't know each other or anything.

[29:50] Derik Nelson: Yeah, grabs me by the hand, pulls me up on the on the lunch table. I'm like in front of everybody, and that scene that you see of the guitar solo, that was me just in the moment being like, okay, just go I'm going for it. Like that is so I'm up on the on the guitar uh on the lunch table playing that guitar solo and and dancing with the the uh cheerios and uh um get done with the solo and and jump off and kind of walk back to my spot. And afterwards, I look over at my musician's coordinator, the the woman who was responsible for the casting of the musicians. She is like pale, like what did you just do? She thought I did that on my own accord. No, like I'm gonna upstage the entire cast and crew of Glee and jump on the table and just go off the rails, you know.

[30:50] Derik Nelson: And I was like, she marches over, and I'm like about to get fired. This is it, I'm gonna get fired. She thinks I did this, and she's never gonna believe that this just happened, and and uh, and right about the time as she comes over to like ream me, Eric gets on the mic and he's like, Give it up for Derek, our guitar player. So good. Everyone clapped, and I was like, Oh my gosh, and she's like, What? Eric and I was like, Yes, I did. I promise you did not make that choice, yeah.

[31:21] Derik Nelson: Yeah, exactly. Oh my god. So that is the long story of uh of how I I became the regular guitar player from just one scene to the rest of the season. And that's like a huge, like first, like official day on the set, yeah.

[31:36] Derik Nelson: Yeah, it was big. I mean, and then to end that day with the food fight, and you're covered in like jello and crap. It was like it was it was pretty epic. And uh definitely I will I will never forget that. Um, and it really set up the the opportunity to to continue.

[31:54] Derik Nelson: Yeah. So for anyone who's in that situation where you have an opportunity to go for something, go for it with 110% because uh going outside your comfort zone is when amazing things usually happen.

[32:06] Allison: Right. That's beautiful. I am obsessed with that. I hope we pull we got the beat today.

[32:12] Derik Nelson: We have we haven't pulled we got the beat, we haven't pulled Shake It Out, so I'm like I'm rooting for it for this episode.

[32:19] Allison: Yeah, but we'll see.

[32:21] Derik Nelson: Yeah, those are definitely two of my two of my faves.

[32:23] Allison: Yeah.

[32:27] Derik Nelson: I have our first song if we are if we are prepared.

[32:32] Allison: Yes.

[32:32] Derik Nelson: Season three.

[32:34] Allison: Season three.

[32:35] Derik Nelson: This is guilty pleasure.

[32:38] Allison: Guilty pleasure for me.

[32:42] Derik Nelson: Cardigans coming off.

[34:51] ♪ Musical number: "Hungry Like the Wolf / Rio" — performed by Derik Nelson ♪

[39:01] Derik Nelson: Um, it's a vulnerable vulnerable place to be in. And so to kind of share that and create that safe space for everyone to kind of um, you know show off their talents, yeah.

[39:12] Derik Nelson: Um was was really special.

[39:14] Allison: Yeah, that's awesome.

[39:16] Derik Nelson: Hungry like the wolf, Rio.

[39:19] Derik Nelson: I I love the I probably should have told you before we start, I'm super chatty.

[39:23] Derik Nelson: So no, no, I my cheeks hurt this song for my cheeks hurt up from like smiling.

[39:30] Derik Nelson: Like this is bringing so much joy into my life.

[39:34] Derik Nelson: This song, it's so good.

[39:37] Derik Nelson: This is like I think this is one of my favorite episodes.

[39:40] Derik Nelson: I wrong.

[39:41] Derik Nelson: I hate that we never see Blaine's brother ever again.

[39:44] Allison: No.

[39:45] Derik Nelson: Was wait, when did we do um, you know, just some bad things?

[39:49] Andrew: Oh, it's the same episode, yeah.

[39:50] Allison: Same episode.

[39:51] Andrew: Yeah.

[39:52] Allison: Okay.

[39:52] Andrew: Yeah.

[39:53] Derik Nelson: And it's like a little bit of they were spaced apart in the shoot, so I couldn't quite remember.

[39:58] Allison: Right.

[39:59] Derik Nelson: It's a cute little arc.

[40:01] Andrew: It's weird for Blaine to have a storyline that's not about Kurt. So I was really into that at the beginning of season or mid season three. Um, I liked it. This is good.

[40:10] Derik Nelson: Yeah, the strange, tumultuous sibling relationship is uh is pretty cool.

[40:15] Andrew: Yeah.

[40:16] Derik Nelson: Um wait, is that is that true, Allison? We don't we don't see his brother again?

[40:18] Allison: Never to be heard of.

[40:20] Derik Nelson: Are you sure?

[40:22] Allison: Never to be seen, not at his wedding.

[40:25] Andrew: Before we uh we I I thought we did something with Matt one more time.

[40:28] Derik Nelson: Listen, if you if you have a deleted scene that you've got to do it.

[40:31] Allison: Maybe I don't own the deleted scene, but I I could have sworn there was some like no.

[40:37] Andrew: Cooper Cooper Anderson was a one epic one episode character, uh one of many one episode characters on this show. Um, I mean, I've talked about the my grievances with this episode before. I am so upset that you know Quinn gets in a car accident the end of the prior episode, they go on a hiatus and then they come back, and the entire episode is about Blaine and his brother. Still not okay with that.

[41:03] Derik Nelson: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[41:03] Allison: I don't remember exactly.

[41:05] Derik Nelson: I can't take credit for any of that.

[41:06] Andrew: So we're we're pitting this entirely on you, Derik.

[41:10] Derik Nelson: I think it's the guitar player's fault. He went on tour or something, and so that storyline. Um but I will say this is a bop. I love it. Uh, I mean, this and somebody that I used to know. I even though I'm not a fan of this storyline, just because it doesn't really do anything for the overall plot. Sure. Um, I think both of you know it they're both great numbers. Uh, but you know, I just wish that Quinn got a little bit more in this episode. She's just sitting there in her chair in this episode, and I'm like, you have something to say.

[41:44] Allison: We're not gonna talk about like the wheelchair and the whole like the how this okay, yeah, yeah.

[41:49] Derik Nelson: I see what you're saying.

[41:49] Andrew: Yeah, thank you. Finally, something in in the defense of the writers and the producers and creators of the show, there is so much that that gets filmed, and to have to tidy that up into like a 44 minute chunk. Uh, you know, there's there's stuff that just has to get cut, you know.

[42:08] Allison: Before we get into our next song, do you have any do you know of any deleted scenes? Like, did you like watch an episode and you're like, we filmed a scene in that episode and I'm not seeing it in this episode.

[42:20] Derik Nelson: Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I mean, there's been tons of stuff that like, you know, stuff I've played in, stuff I've got I've been mailed a check for. Yeah, never saw the light of day. And I was like, oh, okay, didn't need okay. I guess we didn't need that song. Wait, do you know because the Greeks wanted as well as me, most importantly. Um gosh. I don't know if I have any juicy uh like anything juicy. It has been like 10 years. There was I know. Uh I can find a photo somewhere of me with a full blonde mullet for a Hall and Oates number. Okay. That they scrapped. Um, I can't remember whether they scrapped the entire thing or they just scrapped the direction for it. Yeah. Um, Darren was dressed as John Oates with the curly twig and the mustache, and then they put me in a Daryl Hall 80s mullet.

I mean, I had hair extensions and uh and the whole thing. And then I don't know what happened when we got to set. We were getting ready to do it, and they were I think they just thought it was just too ridiculous. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. Uh gosh, there's been there's been tons of stuff that um, you know, that we've filmed, and then you watch the episode back and you're like, oh, I guess they shortened the song or they didn't need the band for that. Or you know, so it wasn't.

[43:47] Allison: Is the most important part.

[43:49] Derik Nelson: Yes, sir. Yes.

[43:50] Allison: I'm very grateful for that.

[43:51] Derik Nelson: Right. But it was always a little bit confusing. You'd never know. And so I I would stop like telling my friends and family to like tune in because I didn't really know there would have been some kind of work. Okay, there's a cool guitar solo. I'm thinking like I remember like we did a whole band pass on just me on like you know, this whole guitar chunk, and I was like, oh man, really cool guitar part, and and uh yeah, you guys are definitely gonna see me this week. Check out Glee. Yeah, and then the episode airs and it's been like scratched. Stay through like an entire watch party. Exactly. Um okay. I have what we have against the Durandoran mashup, and yeah, I think the Durandoran mashup is going through. I've not I have not been looking forward to this number mostly because it's boring. So you are woman.

[44:36] ♪ Musical number: "You Are Woman, I Am Man" — performed by Rachel and Paolo ♪

[47:02] Andrew: Someone said it. Um You are a woman, I am a man by Rachel, and I think his name was Paolo. Um, whoever's playing the male lead and funny girl. Um, yeah, I was gonna say, what what musical is that from again?

[47:17] Allison: Funny girl. Uh uh, no, it's not good for me. I it this this song came up on my shuffle like a few days ago, and I I gave it a chance, and I was like, okay, I don't think I've ever actually listened to like the full like MB3 version all the way through. And I couldn't like get past like the first like 45 seconds. This is not it for me. I don't like this. Alison, your thoughts.

[47:44] Allison: I I no, I'm gonna agree. I'm gonna expose myself to the Gleeks. I'm gonna say it right here on this Glee podcast. I've never seen Funny Girl. I don't know what Funny Girl is about. Um stab in the dark, though. Stab in the dark. Um funny girl, she's a girl. She is she is woman, he is man. Um she has bangs. Um, I'm never gonna let anybody rain on her parade. That's true. That's true. And she is the greatest star. Um, I don't know what it's about. I do want to see Beanie in it on Broadway this summer, but no, this isn't it's enough. I mean, compared to the Duranda Ran. Oh, without a doubt. Is that what you want that you want Beanie to introduce you to the story of Funny Girl? Yeah, I don't I don't want Babs, I don't want Rachel Barry. I want Beanie Feldstein. Okay, that's fair. You've been waiting all your life.

[48:46] Derik Nelson: My thoughts, my my thoughts, if I can just interject my two sentences. I I do appreciate the the way that Glee always tried to stay true to some musical theater roots. Right. And for any of the diehard musical theater fans out there, you know, to see little moments where we hear stuff from like Funny Girl or uh there was like an Into the Woods, I think, or or Wizard of Oz or something at some point. Anytime we get these little nods to musical theater, I think is is always really cool. Um, especially because there was nothing else like that on TV at the time. Um that said, it's lacking some guitar for me, you know. I I I wasn't gonna say it, but yeah. I didn't see any smiley guitar guide, you know.

No in the background. I don't know. Um, you know, with all that being said about the musicals, yeah. I I it is important to note that this episode's title is called The End of Twerk. Um, which I don't anyone would have guessed from that performance. Um this is the next episode I'm literally about to watch.

[49:55] Allison: Oh, the end of twerk. That's the next one you're gonna watch.

[49:57] Andrew: Yes, it is. And I knew because the I think a giant part of this plot in this episode is that did Rachel get a haircut? We don't know. No, yeah. She wears a wig, she knows she wears a wig. So I think the plot is is that her director wants her to get the haircut. She says no. She comes in the next day, she has the haircut, but guess what? It's a wig. It's a wig. I can't riveting. I was still at McKinney High School, everyone left for New York and they never really explained like how old is the guitar player.

[50:31] Derik Nelson: Wait, did you continue watching all the way through?

[50:35] Allison: I it's okay if you have for the most part. Don't I mean don't out me here?

[50:40] Andrew: No, no, no, no. Like most people, most people that we've had from the cast are in the same exact boat where it's like, no, we gave up. I think, you know, I will say, I think a lot of people I I'll say this. Glee from a foundational standpoint was about that core group of stuff of choir students, Glee Club students, the misfits. Um, and the writers sort of painted them into a corner because themselves into a corner because we're following these storylines in the context of a high school glee club. Right. And I don't think anyone anticipated for the show to blow up the way it did and to become so successful and such a hit. Um, what a blessing, but also it was like now you've got these characters that are gonna be graduating from high school.

What like what do we do with them? Yeah, right, you know, and like you don't want to completely give up on them because this is the reason that so many fans watch the show. So I think they did the best that they could with like now they're going their different ways, and we're going to New York and we're staying with the high school storyline. Right. But it created a lot of um, I don't think you know, we want to know does the guitarist have a love interest? Does he have a crush on anyone? Is he going to the audit? Yeah, babe. What's his family like? Yeah. Um, but I I think the fact that they got into this sort of plot conundrum where they had too many arcs to try to keep track of, and it didn't give enough time to really develop any of these these storylines.

So uh for me and and I guess for a lot of the the rest of the cast that you've already spoken to, and for a lot of fans of the show, I think that was sort of a you know, okay, this is our stop. This is sort of where we're getting off the the wagon, you know, and and that's of no discredit to the amazing job of everyone on the creative side of this of this show um it's just the sort of the natural lifespan i will say of of uh a lot of good shows you have the you know the with any product with any uh any piece of art or any sort of career you have you have the peak and you have the valley and I I think that's sort of where the dip started to happen. But it was a phenomenon and it was the biggest show on television and you know at its peak it had a worldwide concert it had a spin-off reality TV show it had its own movie like it like not many shows can say that so I think exactly I hope nothing from what I said was interpreted.

[53:19] Derik Nelson: No, not at all. But like for what it was like of the show, because like, yeah, it was huge for a reason, and to be a part of it was like such a special experience.

[53:29] Derik Nelson: Yeah, and um, while it was bittersweet, I will say to like see sort of the, um, I don't even want to use the word decline because everything that we were doing every, you know, week after week was incredible. Um, but I think the, uh, the interest level, the intrigue sort of started to wane, and uh, and that's all I'm trying to address, which is, you know, not a surprise I think to a lot of fans. We recognize that that's what was happening.

[53:59] Derik Nelson: Yeah, you know, it couldn't remain at that peak exactly. The sustainability piece of, uh, you know, had a natural expiration date with the, you know, with graduation. Yeah, for sure. But when it comes down to it, which one are we putting through to the next round of the Glacket? Hungry like we already discussed that guitar guy based on guitar guy alone.

[54:22] Allison: Are we giving anything? Can we have an official name? Can we have a canon name? Do we have any of that?

[54:27] Derik Nelson: Uh, I was, I think, uh, Puck referred to me as Rusty Tromboner, Johnny Tromboner.

[54:27] Derik Nelson: Johnny Tromboner.

[54:36] Derik Nelson: Johnny Tromboner.

[54:37] Allison: Okay.

[54:37] Derik Nelson: Yeah. So last name Tromboner, first name Johnny.

[54:40] Derik Nelson: First name Johnny. Yep. I don't know. Is that German? But it works.

[54:44] Allison: Is that German?

[54:47] Derik Nelson: Um, I have the next song. It is in the choir room, but it is season five. And I'm excited to discuss.

[54:56] Allison: Oh, another guest star.

[54:58] Derik Nelson: Another guest star.

[55:05] Derik Nelson: Right, right. Turn off the lights. We're gonna lose our minds tonight. Well, it's the deal. Ah, love when it's all too much. 5 a.m. turn the radio up. Where's the rocking roll? Penny snatcher. Call me up if you were gangster. Don't be fancy, just get dancing. Why so so soon? So raise your blessed build roll in all the right ways, all my dogs. We will never be, never be anything but love. And maybe Granny Daddy Little Freaks. Won't you come in, come in and raise your glass? Just come on in, come on and raise your glass. Won't you come in and come in and raise? Your bless. Just come on and come in and raise. Oh no, my glass is empty. That sucks. So if you're too school for cool. And you treat it like a food.

Treat it like a food. You can choose to let it go. Choose to let the no speaking always Connie on an old Sour Razor. So raise the glass! Oh my god. And getting great. Just come on and come on and raise. Y'all glass. Won't you come on and come on and race? Your glass for base. Come on and come in and raise.

[57:06] Derik Nelson: Derek, I'm just like entirely jealous that you were in the room during that. That just looked like it was like so much fun.

[57:15] Derik Nelson: It was super fun. And you also have to remember, like, you're gonna have to refresh me on the context of this too, because the stuff that I was in, um, it makes it feel like when you watch the episode, like I knew everything that was going on for the whole episode. But I really only knew this one little slice of a two and a half minute performance.

[57:33] Derik Nelson: Yeah, and that was it. We did it all day. You know, a lot of these shoots were, uh, twelve to sixteen hours in order to get all of the angles. I mean, every wall that you see there in the choir room, uh, comes in and out so that they can put, um, you know, an entire dolly system in there. And, uh, yeah, I mean, there's no ceiling, and so like those are the kind of things that, um, that are kind of cool to look back on and see the whole thing in a two and a half minute song, um, you know, knowing how much really went into it. I mean, we played that song 50 times that day.

[58:14] Allison: Yeah.

[58:16] Derik Nelson: So this is the hundredth episode.

[58:19] Derik Nelson: That's right, yeah. This is the hundredth.

[58:21] Andrew: So Andrew, you need to refresh me on the context as well. Why is the number hundred on the board?

[58:26] Derik Nelson: Are they addressing the fact that they're, I think, okay?

[58:31] Derik Nelson: So I think that Mr. Shu says at the beginning of this episode, a hundred lessons, which like I don't think, uh, from what we've seen, there hasn't been a hundred lessons, but, um, go off, I guess. Uh, but like they were just trying to tie in the fact that it is the hundredth episode with context.

[58:51] Allison: Sure.

[58:51] Derik Nelson: And yeah, um, I don't know. I don't think it was necessary. I liked this number so much more than I thought that I would. I thought it was so much fun.

[58:59] Allison: Do they address the fact that, so in the hundredth episode, they're reperforming a bunch of old performances?

[59:07] Derik Nelson: Yes.

[59:08] Allison: That the Gleeks voted on.

[59:11] Derik Nelson: Do they address the fact that allegedly the Gleeks voted on? Do they address that what happened?

[59:16] Allison: Yeah, do they address the fact that Dalton Academy sang the song and not New Directions?

[59:21] Derik Nelson: So they do have a line in the episode, um, where like I think like April Rhodes is like, I want to sing Raise Your Glass or something. And then like Blaine is like, Well, the Warblers really did Raise Your Glass first, and then she was like, Well, I always had something like for the prep school boys, and then did the honk thing that she does, the people's noses.

[59:42] Derik Nelson: Oh, that's right. Um, and then she starts the number. Uh, I always think Raise Your Glass like should have from day one should have been a New Directions number. It didn't make sense as a Warblers number. It like in context it just like, I don't know. That's like New Directions all over it. But I like this.

[1:00:01] Allison: I'm interested to see what, so in the bracket you're pulling songs that are, sorry, the glass, the glass, correct? Yeah, corrected flip of the tongue there. Uh, in the Glacket.

[1:00:16] Derik Nelson: Yes. Uh, you're pulling songs, so how are these songs getting, um, like maybe I just need to see the overall edition of random totally random.

[1:00:25] Allison: Yes.

[1:00:26] Derik Nelson: I have a cup out. I have a cup. We have songs.

[1:00:29] Allison: Great.

[1:00:30] Derik Nelson: We've been doing this for a year and, um, amazing. We're not even halfway through, not even halfway. Raise Your Glass, I mean, that was a really, that was a fun one, and the energy is there, and like having everybody together in the choir room was really awesome. And I mean, we were just laughing in between takes, and, and, uh, I yeah, I just, I remember that as a really fun day.

[1:00:54] Allison: Did you have like a, like any close relationship with anybody that was part of the main cast? Like who do you, would you say?

[1:00:54] Derik Nelson: Yeah, I mean, we saw, we saw these, I mean, we saw each other two or three times a week, yeah, you know, for four years.

[1:01:10] Derik Nelson: Right. And so, yeah, um, I actually, I went to college for a year, um, at the University of Michigan.

[1:01:18] Allison: Okay.

[1:01:18] Derik Nelson: And so Darren Criss and I actually, we were in a show together, uh, Singing in the Rain, a musical at, uh, at the University of Michigan my freshman year. He was a sophomore. I was a freshman, and um, so we hung out a lot. I mean, there was like, there's a picture somewhere of us like at a party like playing guitar together in the kitchen, you know, because that's what you do when you're a freshman in college.

[1:01:46] Derik Nelson: But, uh, so we were like in the music circle already at Michigan, and then a few years later, flash forward to him, you know, blowing up on Glee, and, uh, and that was like his first season that, um, that he became like a mainstay on the show, uh, was also when, um, when I started, uh, as the guitar player. So the first, the first, um, scene that we had together, he like, he walked in, he was like, oh, what are you doing? Like, you know, jumped up on like tackled me to the ground, yeah, as you can totally imagine Darren doing.

[1:01:46] Allison: Oh, I love that.

[1:01:46] Derik Nelson: Uh, so it was cool to like kind of like rekindle our friendship on the show and like have somebody from like, you know, from like the before the pre days, um, you know, to, to like have each other's back was was really cool and, and, uh, get to like have that connection was, uh, was awesome. Um, yeah, I mean, we've like, we would play iPad games and stuff and, uh, Fruit Ninja.

[1:01:46] Derik Nelson: Yeah, no, in those days we, we, uh, there was this marbles game that we, that I think it was Diana. I remember, was it like the, the tilt, the tilt you needed to get the marble and oh, we no, it was like a slide and flick. It was like a, like marbles. Everyone is on a different corner of the iPad, um, and, uh, yeah, and it was like you have a certain number of marbles and yeah, Kevin was, I think it was Kevin that showed it to us. It was like him and Diana, and like we started like getting into big marble tournaments.

[1:03:32] Allison: Um, that's good.

[1:03:33] Derik Nelson: Yeah, it was just like, you know, it was it was hanging out when you're, when you're not shooting. Like imagine you're, you're anything but a standard like coworker environment, but right, but that's kind of what it was. It was like you're there with these people, um, for 16 hours a day at some points, and so just understanding like everyone's got their own thing going on and we're there to support each other and, and support the work that we have to do, and, um, uh, you know, so I, I will say like I made sure to give everybody their space. Um, and some people appreciated their, their space a little more than others, as I'm sure you can imagine.

[1:04:19] Allison: Yeah.

[1:04:20] Derik Nelson: Um, I won't name any names, but you guys are smart people.

[1:04:27] Derik Nelson: So yes, I was definitely closer with some people than others.

[1:04:31] Allison: Right.

[1:04:31] Derik Nelson: Uh, but I got along with everyone and, um, and developed some great friendships. Um, Cord and I, we actually got pretty close, uh, and started working on some music together. And, and so he would come over every once in a while, um, and we'd like, you know, figure out new song ideas and record demos and stuff.

[1:04:51] Allison: Oh my gosh.

[1:04:52] Derik Nelson: Um, and then when the whole Glee project happened, and then they, they hired on, uh, Melissa Benoist and Becca Tobin.

[1:05:01] Allison: Yeah.

[1:05:02] Derik Nelson: Um, and, uh, so when they were kind of first joining the, the whole Glee family, um, we hung out a lot too, and, and they really liked my music. And so they were trying to campaign for me to actually sing something on the show. Um, because they played my music all the time and, and shared it with people, which was super cool.

[1:05:23] Allison: Oh, that's awesome.

[1:05:25] Derik Nelson: And, uh, so yeah, especially like having a guitar there was like, you know, and knowing how many talented people it would like turn into random jam sessions and stuff, and that's awesome. Um, you know, especially Darren. I mean, that guy, music and performing is just in his blood. And so anything he could get his hands on, it always turned into like, dude, let's, let's riff on this. Like, let me see the upright. There's an upright bass, like let's, you know.

[1:05:50] Derik Nelson: So, uh, yeah, um, it really was a close network of, of, uh, I mean, and the crew too, you know, they're the unsung heroes of the show, really. Um, they made the whole thing happen, and, and so getting to spend time and, you know, the Glee ping pong table and the basketball move out by the, you know, the trailers, and you know, it really was, uh, it was like a fun experience, yeah, you know.

[1:06:17] Derik Nelson: That's awesome.

[1:06:18] Allison: Love it. Ready for what's against "Raise Your Glass."

[1:06:22] Andrew: Oh, yeah, yes.

[1:06:25] Allison: I'm worried because I did like "Raise Your Glass" more than I thought I would.

[1:06:29] Derik Nelson: I know for a fact that this is an episode directed by Eric Stoltz. Okay, and Eric loved the band. I mean, anytime he could like feature the band, he always would like make sure to give us a moment.

[1:06:43] Andrew: Which we'll be sure you're in here, yeah.

[1:07:11] ♪ Musical number: "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" — performed by Derik Nelson ♪

[1:08:55] Allison: Amazing. "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" by Blaine and Sam. Derik, immediate thoughts following that performance.

[1:09:03] Derik Nelson: Um, well, a fun fact, I think I was out on tour at this point.

[1:09:07] Allison: Like, I couldn't clock you in the background there.

[1:09:09] Derik Nelson: Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I did have my very first solo tour, which was the fall of 2013. And I think if the dates line up right, that would probably make sense for when this was shot.

[1:09:25] Andrew: Okay.

[1:09:25] Derik Nelson: Um, so they also had Chord on guitar anyway, so it's like anytime there was like both of us, the honors would usually go to Chord unless they wanted two guitar parts.

[1:09:38] Allison: Right.

[1:09:38] Derik Nelson: Um, but yeah, I think that was what happened here. Is I was out on the road and they um they gave me an amazing tour send-off little party. They surprised me like it was my birthday and brought like a cake out. Everyone like sang to me like it was my birthday. Um, but I think if my memory serves me, that would be why there's no smiley guitar player appearance.

[1:10:06] Andrew: No, they really missed out, yeah.

[1:10:09] Derik Nelson: I was smiling and singing to live audiences all over the West Coast at this point.

[1:10:15] Allison: Also very amazing. So well, you missed out on the sunglasses and the bright colored shorts.

[1:10:20] Derik Nelson: I know. It looked like fun, I gotta, you know, I gotta lean towards "Raise Your Glass." Again, just selfishly guitar moments in that. I just got everybody together in the choir room. Although the Blaine and Sam bromance, always a, you know, always a staple.

[1:10:38] Andrew: I agree. Um, but I gotta go with "Raise Your Glass" on this one.

[1:10:40] Allison: Yeah, there's something about that guitarist in the "Raise Your Glass" that really stood out.

[1:10:46] Derik Nelson: It's the choir room.

[1:10:47] Andrew: Right. Now that you say it out loud.

[1:10:50] Derik Nelson: Yeah, something was missing. Um, really doesn't do much.

[1:10:56] Allison: I don't know. I feel bad because it's such a high energy song, and yet it doesn't really do much for me. Am I wrong?

[1:11:02] Andrew: No, you're not wrong.

[1:11:06] Allison: Okay. I'm glad. I'm sure I'm wrong in someone's eyes. Someone's listening like you're gonna be.

[1:11:10] Derik Nelson: I mean, it fits the Glee formula, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's something entirely new that we haven't seen before.

[1:11:17] Allison: I think the diplomatic way to put it.

[1:11:20] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:11:21] Allison: Since we have we've had two unanimous decisions. I'm excited to see what our final decision is going to be.

[1:11:28] Andrew: Oh, yeah, we haven't really thought about it.

[1:11:30] Allison: Yeah, we there needs to be blood. We need to we need a fight.

[1:11:35] Derik Nelson: The last song I have is I'm gonna preface it with this is my favorite era of Glee. This is my I love this song. Um and this is my favorite. Uh you know what? Let's just watch it.

[1:11:48] Allison: Okay.

[1:11:50] ♪ Musical number: "Firework" — performed by Katy Perry ♪

[1:13:38] Andrew: There is a tear. There was a tear. Put it on the list of Rachel Solos where she cries.

[1:13:45] Allison: I love it. I this is good. Her outfit's good. Hair, good. Song, good. Sparklers in the background, good. I do love this episode as well. This is a great episode. Silly loves us.

[1:13:59] Derik Nelson: Her ability to cry.

[1:14:01] Allison: Yeah.

[1:14:01] Derik Nelson: God. I don't know how you do this. She would literally ask, which I'm not sure.

[1:14:08] Allison: No joke.

[1:14:09] Derik Nelson: Like she was dead serious. Which I no.

[1:14:12] Allison: You're joking.

[1:14:14] Derik Nelson: Yes, like which one you wanted the tear to fall from.

[1:14:18] Andrew: Okay.

[1:14:19] Derik Nelson: You know, I'm just gonna say I could be a rumor. Maybe Derik spread some rumors around here. But a happy guitarist in the background would know. Just saying.

[1:14:29] Allison: Yeah just saying.

[1:14:31] Derik Nelson: Um, so yeah, her voice, I mean, phenomenal on this one, especially.

[1:14:35] Andrew: Also, guys, can I just say Baby Girl covered some ground in this song? She starts.

[1:14:40] Allison: I wrote it down.

[1:14:42] Andrew: Oh, we got it, we got a rage check here from Andrew.

[1:14:45] Allison: I love it. She starts off in the nurse's office, okay?

[1:14:48] Derik Nelson: She goes to the choir.

[1:14:49] Allison: I thought you were gonna say, like, cover some ground vocally. And I was like, oh, we got we check at the single goddamn thing about music, Derik.

[1:15:00] Derik Nelson: Um, that's all you.

[1:15:02] Allison: That's why I was like, oh, let's get into the theory. So we're starting here in the key of A.

[1:15:07] Andrew: If you want to do that, that's another podcast.

[1:15:09] Allison: Um I'm talking about literal ground. She sings a two-minute and thirty seconds song. Um, she's in multiple locations. She starts in the nurse's office, goes to the choir room, goes to her room, goes to the hallway, to the McKinley High stage, and then ends at breadsticks. She covers some ground in this.

[1:15:31] Derik Nelson: I think that if you were to write it down, how many look like one song from Glee that cover the most ground? I think that "Firework" would have a very good chance of being the most locations for one song.

[1:15:43] Andrew: Yeah, we need it, we need a step count. We don't like to log off to the dometer and just see the the actual step count that it took for fire.

[1:15:51] Allison: Oh, she fireworked out.

[1:15:53] Derik Nelson: Yes.

[1:15:55] Allison: This is so good. This is so good. This is it's not my favorite Rachel solo, but it's close.

[1:16:03] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:16:04] Allison: It's just hits for me. I wouldn't say it's like even in the top 10 for me. I think it's just like it's like the obvious choice. Like it's a very like this was when "Firework" was popular, and it was like, okay, we'll keep it to Rachel. I don't think it holds a candle to like if you were to actually look at the list of Rollos.

[1:16:19] Derik Nelson: Okay.

[1:16:20] Allison: I'm sorry.

[1:16:21] Andrew: Okay, in the moment. You guys roll-I'm dying.

[1:16:28] Allison: I just this is this is peak for me. I don't know. This is pe I mean this is good. I will say that. Glee the music volume five.

[1:16:36] Andrew: It's true.

[1:16:37] Allison: That's true. One of the greatest albums of all time.

[1:16:42] Andrew: Okay. Our final song of the episode. We've we've built up to this song. We've talked about this song in the past. I think we talked about this in the last episode, even. Um, it is it it's hardly considered for the Glacket. Do you know what it is, Allison?

[1:17:01] Allison: Is it the shortest song on Glee?

[1:17:03] Andrew: It's not the shortest song on Glee, but here we go.

[1:18:12] Andrew: That was amazing!

[1:18:20] Allison: Winner of the Glacket. Winner of the Glacket. Best song on Glee. I love this.

[1:18:30] Derik Nelson: That was wild. What do you think about it?

[1:18:31] Andrew: Oh, you're gonna make me go first?

[1:18:32] Allison: Yeah, I yeah, let's go. Let's go.

[1:18:34] Derik Nelson: True to form. You know?

[1:18:36] Allison: Exactly.

[1:18:37] Derik Nelson: Like accuracy as far as uh as paying homage. Um homage. Um homage. Uh to the original. I think uh stylistically, that definitely gets points. Um man, I would just I would have been so nervous about like, is there stuff in my teeth? Or this giant mouth close-up that's my lips are trapped. I need on like 70 crest white strips.

[1:19:07] Allison: Yeah.

[1:19:07] Derik Nelson: Exactly. Um so yeah, as far as like something different, it definitely is different. Um I think you have to you have to be really familiar with Rocky Horror to be able to appreciate the connection, I think. So as far as general accessibility to the average viewer, if you don't know Rocky Horror, you're gonna have a bad tag.

[1:19:34] Derik Nelson: Yeah, you're gonna be confused.

[1:19:46] Andrew: You're going with the Rolo, aren't you?

[1:19:47] Derik Nelson: No, I love you using the terminology. This is great. I'm a quick study guy. I because I just said I love firework, it's one of the best Rollos. This is it, this is great. Everything's great.

[1:20:01] Derik Nelson: Science fiction double feature is better for me.

[1:20:04] Andrew: Yes.

[1:20:05] Derik Nelson: I love the fact that it's just Santana. It's just Santana's, it's incredible. I like how this begins the episode. I just like the song. I like science fiction, I like Rocky Horror Picture Show. This is great. I love this song. I am a Rocky Horror Glee Show apologist.

[1:20:30] Andrew: Yes.

[1:20:30] Derik Nelson: There is not a flop on that CD. The greatest album of all time. I did just say that about Glee Volume 5. I'll say that about this one too.

[1:20:40] Andrew: Yeah, no, there are flops in the storyline of that episode, but not a flop.

[1:20:45] Derik Nelson: But the episode had its problems. But this song in particular, absolute standout. Santana's first solo in the series and simply just her lips. Obsessed with that.

[1:21:00] Andrew: Wow, is that true?

[1:21:01] Derik Nelson: Yeah. This marked her first solo, yeah. She sang like a few duets before, but this is her first time singing. I remember watching that live. I mean, this is like not when I was as familiar with the show and was like, who is that? And I looked it up and I was like, Santana.

[1:21:20] Andrew: That's so fun. I love that.

[1:21:22] Derik Nelson: Yeah. This is easily going through for me. Rollo versus solo, no. It's a solo.

[1:21:28] Andrew: Wow. What are you saying, Derik?

[1:21:33] Derik Nelson: Well, I gotta break some hearts here, I think.

[1:21:35] Andrew: Go ahead.

[1:21:36] Derik Nelson: As someone who has done a Katy Perry cover, but did not reach the popularity of the Glee status, but still has hundreds of thousands of views, which is cool. I definitely appreciate a reinterpretation of Katy Perry because there's only one Katy Perry. I think Katy Perry's music lends itself very nicely to a Lea Michele interpretation in the iconic style of Rachel Berry.

[1:22:14] Andrew: Okay.

[1:22:15] Derik Nelson: So I have to go with from an overall accessibility point for the general viewer, which I think is Glee's bread and butter to be able to pull people into the show. I think maybe it's too much of a niche stretch to really net people in. If you turn on the TV and you see the lips on the screen, it might not pull people into what the show is all about as much as, you know, the iconic slice of firework.

[1:22:50] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:22:50] Derik Nelson: So for that reason, I think from an overall arc standpoint, the talent that went into the Rocky Horror tribute is next level. To really appreciate it, I think you gotta get the full thing.

[1:23:08] Andrew: So just we're just, I mean, here in the Glacket, it's the song only. We're taking the performance of the song and stacking it up to each other. I think again the step count for the fireworks, if we're gauging on our point there, yeah.

[1:23:25] Derik Nelson: We got a zero step count. We got zero is a standstill. She could hardly move her hands.

[1:23:31] Andrew: Exactly.

[1:23:32] Derik Nelson: For those reasons I gotta, it's tough, but I gotta lean towards the Rollo.

[1:23:37] Andrew: I sort of am obsessed with the fact that you wanted to fight for this final competition, and it seems as though we gotta keep the listeners honest here. We're just bashing you down, unfortunately, in the final competition.

[1:23:52] Derik Nelson: If we've learned anything about Glee, it's you gotta stand true in your convictions and always be yourself.

[1:23:57] Andrew: That's true.

[1:23:58] Derik Nelson: I gotta go with the honesty here, and I love Lea's voice, and I think her interpretation of Katy Perry, that's what sells it for me.

[1:24:10] Andrew: Your vote is heard.

[1:24:12] Derik Nelson: Yep.

[1:24:14] Andrew: So to summarize this episode, I had two of the winners.

[1:24:21] Derik Nelson: Yes.

[1:24:21] Andrew: Hungry Like the Wolf, Rio, Raise Your Glass, and Firework.

[1:24:26] Derik Nelson: Not going through.

[1:24:27] Andrew: Not going through.

[1:24:28] Derik Nelson: But I think Derik fought for it valiantly.

[1:24:32] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:24:32] Derik Nelson: I tried.

[1:24:33] Andrew: That was really great. Where do we sit? Can we get a recap of where we stand on the Glacket then?

[1:24:40] Derik Nelson: Oh, we can go to the entire Glacket.

[1:24:43] Andrew: You want the whole thing?

[1:24:44] Derik Nelson: Oh, oh, I'm sorry. I don't do enough homework on this show.

[1:24:48] Andrew: Like, no! This is our 51st hour that we're producing, and we're doing six songs per episode. This is like our 306th song.

[1:24:59] Derik Nelson: Yeah.

[1:25:00] Andrew: Okay. So advancing. Let's just go back to advancing in this round once again. It's Hungry Like the Wolf.

[1:25:06] Derik Nelson: Hungry Like the Wolf.

[1:25:07] Andrew: Raise Your Glass.

[1:25:08] Derik Nelson: Science Fiction Double Feature going through.

[1:25:11] Andrew: We are never gonna hear I Am Woman.

[1:25:13] Derik Nelson: I am man, you are woman.

[1:25:15] Andrew: You are never hearing that again.

[1:25:16] Derik Nelson: You are a woman, I am man with that.

[1:25:19] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:25:19] Derik Nelson: It's okay, it's gone.

[1:25:20] Andrew: Never hearing Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go.

[1:25:23] Derik Nelson: We're never gonna see those bright blue shorts ever again.

[1:25:25] Andrew: We're never gonna see Firework.

[1:25:27] Derik Nelson: Firework.

[1:25:28] Andrew: Sorry.

[1:25:29] Derik Nelson: Which is sick. That's the only heartbreaker for me, because I think the other ones are easy calls. Maybe that's gonna be something that everyone fights about.

[1:25:37] Andrew: I don't know. I'm eager to see her.

[1:25:40] Derik Nelson: Yeah, I like the final round there. I thought that was a good matchup.

[1:25:44] Andrew: There, you'll need to come back in a year.

[1:25:46] Derik Nelson: I would love to come in a year or two when we're finally done the first round and come back and make a more important decision.

[1:25:53] Andrew: There we go.

[1:25:53] Derik Nelson: Yeah, you bring me back anytime. I'd love to. I'd love to hang out with you guys. This is awesome.

[1:25:59] Andrew: To wrap up the episode, we ask all of our guests at the end. If Glee was still on in 2022, what would they be singing? What would they be doing? I want to spin it to you personally. What is the smiling guitarist playing in the choir room in 2022?

[1:26:17] Derik Nelson: Oh my gosh. In 2022, I think the smiling guitarist finally gets a name and a solo. We need a good solo.

[1:26:27] Andrew: No, we need a solo. We're ready for it.

[1:26:31] Derik Nelson: Because man, I was hoping for it all those years. Especially as a singer-songwriter, having the opportunity to maybe have just like a one-minute segment of an original song on Glee. That would be the dream. So I think in 2022, if maybe there's an arc to the storyline, especially me being such a romantic person, if there's like a special song that I've written that I'm gonna maybe propose to whoever my significant other, however they want to spin that.

[1:27:06] Andrew: That's just sort of the vision I see.

[1:27:07] Derik Nelson: It's like the choir room, maybe we get my brother on piano again just for a fun throwback.

[1:27:13] Andrew: Yeah, and that it's like that's how I'm gonna either propose or there's some high stakes around why this song is important.

[1:27:20] Derik Nelson: I would have loved an episode where it's just like all of a sudden you hear like voices from the band, and it's like, oh, you just turn and it's like, oh, they're having conversation, and it's like they're engaged.

[1:27:29] Andrew: They have drama themselves.

[1:27:31] Derik Nelson: Yeah, they magically know every single song on the planet and are prepared to throw down at a moment's notice.

[1:27:39] Andrew: I think I hope that you sort of echo the sentiments of a lot of the fans of this show that wanted a little bit more from the band.

[1:27:48] Derik Nelson: Please, we would have loved that too.

[1:27:49] Andrew: Yes.

[1:27:50] Derik Nelson: You know, no disrespect to the amazing roles that we had. But yeah, knowing how talented everyone was and the stacked amount of abilities from every single musician that got to be on the show, it would be cool to have some more on-air time to really serve some of those talents and I would have loved to contribute in a way that could have helped the show even more.

[1:28:20] Andrew: In the Glee boot.

[1:28:22] Derik Nelson: In the Glee boot. It'll be focused on the band.

[1:28:26] Andrew: Oh, that would be awesome.

[1:28:27] Derik Nelson: I mean, the band, not only do they know all the songs at the drop of the hat, they also know most of the tea at McKinley, they know all of what's going on.

[1:28:35] Andrew: We're in there, yeah.

[1:28:36] Derik Nelson: We know everything that's going on. I think the coolest part is like how apathetic we are to the fact that we just, we know the gossip and we don't care.

[1:28:45] Andrew: You know Blaine and his brother are singing Somebody That I Used to Know when the band is the only people that are bare witness to it.

[1:28:52] Derik Nelson: Yeah, yeah.

[1:28:54] Andrew: I love that you pick up on that.

[1:28:57] Derik Nelson: Like, what do you do with that information?

[1:28:59] Andrew: Derik, thank you so much for being. This has been such a fun episode of Gleek of the Week. Thank you for so much for being our guest. Where can our glisteners find your music, all your socials, all that stuff?

[1:29:14] Derik Nelson: Well, now that I've plugged the Katy Perry cover, you should go look it up on YouTube. My website is deriknelson.com. That's Derik Nelson.com. And I have a lot of resources and info up there of how we can stay connected. The best way to support my continuing music career is to get on my email list because I send a lot of cool stuff to my list. Those are the people that are the first to hear about new projects, new music, and new things that I'm working on, even things like my own candles.

[1:29:49] Derik Nelson: I am making candles in my rainy day hobby here, but it's really kind of taken off. So if you want to get to know me a little better beyond just the smiley positivity that I bring behind the scenes, I also like to bring that to the forefront and help other musicians and artists write music, create your own inspiring creative projects and help others serve the world in unique ways. So if that's something that you're passionate about, please connect with me. Go to my website, deriknelson.com. You can send me an email directly there, and I love getting email and connecting with people all over the world.

[1:30:32] Andrew: Amazing. Thank you so much again. This was amazing. Again, my cheeks are hurt from smiling so much.

[1:30:40] Derik Nelson: This was so great. To end the episode, we're going to say bye in our most annoying voices after one.

[1:30:48] Andrew: I love it.

[1:30:49] Derik Nelson: Real quick, I just want to give a shout out to you guys for being amazing hosts of this show and to serve the Glee fandom with going back through and honoring this amazing material because it really is so special and unfathomable to see the kind of fruits of all of our labor.

[1:31:11] Andrew: You know, I mean the amount of musical numbers. I can't remember the final count, you probably know, but I mean we do know.

[1:31:18] Derik Nelson: Yeah, I mean, I have a sweatshirt that's celebrating like 400 musical or something like that. So I mean, there's been a ton, and the fact that each one is like its own little mini music video, and then you have a TV show on top of that and a live performance on top. I mean, yeah, what we were able to do on this show is really special, and the fact that you guys are highlighting that and honoring that 10 years later is really cool.

[1:31:45] Andrew: It keeps the show alive and is very special.

[1:31:51] Derik Nelson: So I want to thank you, Andrew and Allison, for being amazing hosts and for having me. I'd love to come back anytime and spill some more tea.

[1:32:00] Andrew: Please, with that, what are we doing?

[1:32:03] All: Bye!

[1:32:04] Andrew: Three, yes, after what?

[1:32:06] Derik Nelson: Our most annoying one.

[1:32:06] Andrew: Okay.

[1:32:07] All: Three, two, one, bye!

[1:32:09] All: Bye.

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