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[0:04] Andrew: Um, I feel like it's been a while since we last recorded and yet it really hasn't. Um, I've lived an entire life. I've dog sat a dog that fully exhausted me. Um, my two doors are open. I will be closing those before our guest comes in. That's how stressed out I am. I have not packed, and I leave after work tomorrow.

[0:24] Julien: Wait, you mentioned the dog. Is the dog a kitty or a gaga? Did you ask?

[0:28] Andrew: Oh, Katie.

[0:29] Julien: Really?

[0:30] Andrew: Yeah. But it's chaotic.

[0:32] Julien: Yeah, in a Katie way.

[0:34] Andrew: In a Katie way.

[0:34] Julien: In a Katie way where she's like, there's a shit emoji on stage flushing down a toilet at her Vegas residency.

[0:42] Andrew: Hmm. Okay. Which it would be different. What would be a Gaga chaotic?

[0:46] Julien: Um, Gaga Chaotic is the Yah, I'm your biggest man, I'll follow you. The paparazzi and she's bleeding.

[0:56] Andrew: Oh.

[0:56] Julien: Or she's dressed up as a man playing the piano.

[1:01] Andrew: Okay, and neither the dog is not doing either of those.

[1:04] Julien: The dog's not doing either of that, but he is poop emojiing on stage. Um, we are back for Album October. Um, not talking about Katie or Gaga, but a Taylor even.

[1:14] Andrew: Which I feel like should have been one of the options in the episode.

[1:17] Julien: Uh, Katie, Gaga, or a Taylor?

[1:20] Andrew: Yeah. Which one should be?

[1:22] Julien: Uh, I feel like I would still take the Buzzbeat quiz and still be a Katie.

[1:26] Andrew: Yeah, probably. Knowing you.

[1:28] Julien: Um, I love saying stuff like that. Like, oh yeah, knowing you for sure, yeah.

[1:36] Andrew: That's kind of mean. I wouldn't say that to just anybody.

[1:38] Julien: No, I save it for the special people.

[1:40] Andrew: Oh, okay, okay, okay. The ones that I know will get it.

[1:44] Julien: Um, can you allow me to share my audio?

[1:48] Andrew: Uh, yeah, this time.

[1:50] Julien: So this time maybe this time. I'll be the last time. Next time, no one's gonna say goodbye.

[1:56] Andrew: I hate that fucking song, and I just watched it, actually. I just finished season six, and then I immediately started Game of Thrones.

[2:08] Julien: Oh, I thought you were gonna start season three.

[2:10] Andrew: I was gonna go back to season three, but I was like, you know what? I gotta calm down.

[2:14] Julien: You need to calm down.

[2:15] Andrew: You need to calm down.

[2:17] Julien: Not at this album.

[2:19] Andrew: Sorry, babe.

[2:20] Julien: Sorry, babe. I feel like we're all over the place and people are trying to keep up.

[2:20] Andrew: Keep up.

[2:24] Julien: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Where are they gone? Where are they going? They're talking about dogs being Katie, Gaga, Taylor.

[2:29] Andrew: Yes. So, Album October, this is the last installment of Album October.

[2:34] Julien: Is that true?

[2:34] Andrew: Oh my god. Yeah. This is the last one. And this is the album that the most people wanted me to cover. It is Reputation by Taylor Swift.

[2:44] Julien: Which shocked me because Reputation is famously her like flop album.

[2:49] Andrew: It wasn't nominated for any Grammys. And there's a video in her documentary of her being like, okay, not nominated. We're gonna do better next time. And I'm gonna get nominated for a bunch of Grammys. But in many ways, that's like really like, uh, that's Glee vibes.

[3:02] Julien: Glee vibes.

[3:03] Andrew: It's like, uh, get shot down, get back up again, babe.

[3:07] Julien: Right.

[3:07] Andrew: You wanna be a loser like me.

[3:08] Julien: Yeah.

[3:09] Andrew: Exactly. You wanna loser like me would be on this album, I think.

[3:13] Julien: On Reputation.

[3:14] Andrew: You're absolutely right. I like imagine like the gorgeous instrumental, you know what I mean?

[3:19] Julien: Yep. Um, okay, so what here's what you missed on Glee. Last episode was Thank You Next. And Marley started to get into her petty crime phase. She slept with Jake, lost her V card.

[3:34] Andrew: Um, it was Oh, wait, you completely glossed over that one.

[3:38] Julien: Yeah.

[3:38] Andrew: Yeah. I didn't realize. Oh, that would make sense. I, you know what? I didn't even write it down, and I don't think I said it in the episode, but it checks out. They banged.

[3:46] Julien: Um, you know what? Here's how I'm gonna tie it in. The Glee Club is entering their Reputation era this episode. Kitty and Marley have teamed up, and maybe Kitty says, now that you're not a virgin anymore, we can totally get along.

[4:01] Andrew: And I that yep. Yep. Uh, so the episode's gonna open with a Kitty Marley duet.

[4:10] Julien: Ooh, okay. I was gonna be so mad if this didn't start the album or the episode.

[4:31] Andrew: Holding him for a song. Just the little what is it here. The clearing of the throat is what does it for me.

[4:44] Julien: Okay, who do you think would I guess it would be Marley clearing her throat.

[4:50] Andrew: Oh, really?

[4:51] Julien: Why you defending?

[4:53] Andrew: Because Kitty's doing it in like a sassy way. She's like, like pushing somebody away.

[4:59] Julien: Oh, I totally see that.

[5:02] Andrew: Yeah. Um, Kitty and Marley duet on stage. They're in cute black, skimpy outfits, and I'm obsessed. The rest of the Glee Club is watching in the audience. The boys are unfazed. They're like, this is hot. And Jake is basically foaming from the mouth. Like, I can't believe I slept with this girl. I feel like it should be like a cartoon at this point, and he is actually sleeping from this.

[5:25] Julien: Um, but the girls know better. Uh, and they're just like, Unique is like, ugh. Tina is like, ew, what the fuck? Sugar's just like that's she she pulls focus, as always.

[5:38] Andrew: Um, you need to start doing things that are an audio medium. Because you just gave me a face that I understood what that meant. But I because I just edited last week's episode today, and we did so many things, the BBL face, that were so like reliant on it being video, that I'm like, fuck. No one will know what we're doing.

[5:56] Julien: No one will know.

[5:59] Andrew: But okay, just picture a sugar face.

[6:01] Julien: A sugar face, she's just like open mouth, like eyes big, like clapping her hands, like, yay! Like client support.

[6:10] Andrew: Yeah, just kind of like, uh, the lights are on, but no one's home, you know?

[6:14] Julien: Uh-huh. Okay. Um, but the girls know better. They're gonna have a conference afterwards and be like, we need to help this girl. And Tina's gonna be like, I know, just the tool for the job. End scene. Now we're in New York City.

[6:27] Andrew: That's probably like a Glee.

[6:29] Julien: Glee!

[6:29] Andrew: Exactly. Okay. Uh, we go to New York City, Rachel is having a similar moment. She's in her slut era. Uh, another man is leaving the apartment half dressed. Rachel's in her robe. Because we end up.

[6:42] Julien: No.

[6:43] Andrew: We ended last episode. Rachel was crying as Finn left the apartment because Finn caught her.

[6:50] Julien: Two episodes ago.

[6:51] Andrew: No, that was last episode. Thank You Next opens with Rachel and Finn in the hall.

[6:57] Julien: Oh.

[6:58] Andrew: Okay, yes. So, um, but another man, this is not Javer. Another man is leaving the apartment. Kurt is sipping his coffee in the living room. Kurt's like, Rachel, that's the third guy this weekend. And Rachel's just like, I'm in my slut era, babe.

[7:17] Julien: She says that?

[7:18] Andrew: Yeah, she does. She's gonna say that. Um, and she's so in her hot ballet outfit at Niata, Kate Hudson notes this bad bitch attitude.

[7:28] Julien: Oh, okay.

[7:29] Andrew: And she's like, Yes, Queen, I'm all about like I literally said that in Kate Hudson's voice. Yes, queen.

[7:36] Julien: Um, Rachel is gonna have this as a solo with Kate Hudson doing the backup vocals.

[7:42] Andrew: Ooh.

[7:43] Julien: I can feel the flames on my skin. Crimson red paint on my lips. If the mountain shit, the owner nothing. I don't regret it one bit, because he had it coming.

[8:01] Andrew: It wasn't so good. Do you hear that?

[8:08] Julien: I hear it. And as a Fox representative, I do have a question. Um, are we finally gonna explain how the people in New York know that they're doing a tribute week?

[8:17] Andrew: No. We're gonna let the ruse continue.

[8:20] Julien: The ruse is continuing.

[8:22] Andrew: Okay, that's why they keep on coming back.

[8:24] Julien: Exactly. They come keep coming back for Morse because they wish, they wish we would explain it, but we don't.

[8:29] Andrew: Right. Back in McKinley, Tina's like, I know who we need. Enter Holly Holiday.

[8:36] Julien: Oh, no, you're kidding.

[8:38] Andrew: Holly Holiday and Cassandra July in one episode.

[8:41] Julien: Exactly.

[8:42] Andrew: Okay. Who is gonna pull out the funding?

[8:44] Julien: Yes.

[8:45] Andrew: Who is gonna, well, we have to pay for Taylor's music, so we're pulling out all the stuff.

[8:49] Julien: Right, right, right.

[8:50] Andrew: Uh-huh. We might as well tack on Gwyneth Paltrow and Kate Hudson. Um, Holly Holiday is gonna sing this on bar stools with all the girls on stage, a la Landslide. Um, and this is going to be Unique heavy Holly Holiday singing the main part of the song.

[9:09] Julien: Oh Lord, save me my dog is my baby, I'll be using for the rest of my unique for the rest of my life. Don't leave me along. Made me crazy if it doesn't show into it right.

[9:23] Andrew: Holly Holiday on the track! If I don't save me my dog is my baby, I'll be using full life.

[9:32] Julien: So I'm thinking about the Glee Wiki. Would the Glee Wiki like say that it's a Unique Holly duet?

[9:39] Andrew: Or sure.

[9:40] Julien: Okay, so okay.

[9:41] Andrew: Mm-hmm.

[9:42] Julien: I think it would, yeah, uh, uh, Hollik.

[9:45] Andrew: Halik?

[9:46] Julien: Hollik duet. Um, she's gonna say, Marley, I'm hearing you're having a hard time and you're acting out in rash ways. And you know what, girl? I also shoplifted. One time I shoplifted from fucking blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And she's gonna whip out this crazy assessment.

[10:07] Andrew: I haven't because Holly Holiday is gonna spring it on me. It's gonna be one of those things where she's improving and every blooper, it's a different thing.

[10:15] Julien: Gwyneth Paltrow, improv hour, yes.

[10:18] Andrew: So Marley's gonna be like, fuck you all. I don't fucking need this. I don't know who the fuck that is. Tough Holly. Who the fuck you are? Apparently you were important two seasons ago, babe.

[10:28] Julien: Right.

[10:29] Andrew: I don't need any of you. She's gonna run out into the hallway and sing this.

[10:35] Julien: But I get smarter, I got harder in the nick of time. I mean I rose upon the I rolls of bullet head, I do it all the time. I gotta list the names and yourses in red undind. I check it once, then I check it twice.

[10:49] Andrew: Oh look what you made me do. Look what you made me do. Look what you just made me do. Look what you just made me. Oh, look at what you made me do.

[11:00] Julien: You really just love this play.

[11:01] Andrew: Okay. I love this album. This is like my one of my top albums. Do you remember when this song came out? Side note. Do you remember when Look What You Made Me Do came out? And people were like, This is a terrible song. I can't believe it. Cringe.

[11:13] Julien: Which I understand.

[11:16] Andrew: I understand the criticism because it's completely different than what Taylor has been doing.

[11:21] Julien: What you made me do.

[11:22] Andrew: But I think it's a hilarious song. It's so good. I love it. It's catchy. It does all the things. Um, yeah, I mean, I was listening to the album earlier today, and I was like, yep, this is gonna be Marley. Knowing where she's going, look what look what we made her do.

[11:37] Julien: Exactly. Knowing where my story with my head can was going.

[11:42] Andrew: Um, so end of scene. Kurt calls Finn, and he's like, brother, help.

[11:44] Julien: Brother help.

[11:50] Andrew: Um, come get your girl.

[11:53] Julien: But it as it turns out, come get y'all juice. Um, turns out Finn, as we zoom out of the phone call, he's in New Haven, Connecticut, and he has been hooking up with Quinn.

[12:06] Julien: No.

[12:06] Andrew: Yeah. And Quinn overhears their conversation on the phone, and when he hangs up, she comes into the room and gets down on her knees, like begs him to stay with her. She's like, This weekend has been the best of my entire life. It felt like we were normal, we were us again. Um, but Finn's like, Quinn, no. I need to, I need to listen to my brother. Uh, Rachel is everything to me. This was a mistake.

[12:32] Julien: Um, this is a Finn and Quinn duet that I would personally hate. Can I just say this is the third blonde in this episode? Kate Hudson, Gwyneth Paltrow, Diana Agron.

[12:44] Andrew: We're really pulling out all the stops.

[12:45] Julien: For Blonde T Swift.

[12:47] Andrew: For yeah, mm-hmm. For Miss Blondie. Here we go.

[12:53] Julien: It from the first old fashioned we were cursed. We never had a shotgun shot in the dark. You job and get a wake up. We will fly him but we never get up. Don't pretend it's such a mystery. They go that the face wave first met me run. My favorite song off this album and I don't think I would like the Glee version, but this is where they would go with it.

[13:18] Andrew: I don't think that I would like it either.

[13:20] Julien: No, I would not like it.

[13:21] Andrew: Uh-huh.

[13:22] Julien: I love that you're saying that as someone that wrote this episode. And you're saying that to a Fox representative.

[13:26] Julien: I was I needed to I needed to fit this song in somewhere and I was like yeah.

[13:32] Andrew: Wait, is this I mean I know this song but like I don't think the song needs to be included in the episode does it?

[13:37] Julien: No, I needed it to be.

[13:38] Andrew: Okay.

[13:39] Julien: I needed it. I love this song. And maybe Finn and Quinn would rock it.

[13:44] Andrew: I don't know. It's like it sound sounds a little whiny this song.

[13:48] Julien: Like I don't know the original. I don't know how Finn could work it, but we'll workshop it in the studio.

[13:53] Andrew: In this dude with Nicky.

[13:55] Julien: With Nicky.

[13:57] Andrew: Another blonde.

[13:58] Julien: Uh just keep on adding up.

[14:00] Andrew: Exactly. Ryder catches up with Marley and says, hey, can we talk? She is gonna make a snarky mean comment um and just really catch him off guard and she's very sad.

[14:12] Julien: He has a puppy dog sad face. And that's what makes her regret it. And be like, oh wait. I can feel regret again. I'm not numb.

[14:19] Andrew: Maybe Holly Holliday is getting to her, and Ryder says something really sweet that convinces Marley to calm the fuck down.

[14:28] Julien: You need to calm down.

[14:29] Andrew: You're being don't tease me like that.

[14:31] Julien: I know, not this album.

[14:33] Andrew: Uh and then Marley is gonna sing a stripped-down version of this in front of the whole Glee Club, like my man.

[14:42] Julien: Um what's the what's your favorite one?

[14:48] Andrew: Wait, what's the what's your favorite Rolo?

[14:50] Julien: Oh, only exception.

[14:52] Andrew: Only exception.

[14:52] Julien: Like Rachel standing and and and crying in front of the Glee Club.

[14:56] Andrew: Right. Cause I can listen for the best.

[15:03] Julien: You must like be fool me.

[15:07] Andrew: Yeah, we can't make any promises.

[15:11] Julien: Now can we be?

[15:13] Andrew: That you can make me drink.

[15:16] Julien: Delicate by Taylor Swift.

[15:19] Andrew: So she gets two solos in one episode.

[15:21] Julien: Mm-hmm.

[15:22] Andrew: Pretty iconic.

[15:23] Julien: Yeah. You know who's in none of these episodes? Sue.

[15:26] Andrew: Oh, I haven't even noticed that.

[15:29] Julien: Didn't even put Sue in any of this. Which I feel like almost like Sue would lend herself to one of these like funny songs from this album.

[15:40] Andrew: You know what I mean?

[15:42] Julien: Yeah, I could see her and look what you make me do.

[15:44] Andrew: Look what you made me do.

[15:46] Julien: In the hallway as Marley's walking down. She's like, what the fuck is going on?

[15:49] Andrew: I think that's okay. I didn't even register that Sue's not at any of these episodes.

[15:53] Julien: I have Rachel, I have Kurt, I have Finn, I have Blaine, I have Sam, I have Tina, Unique, Sugar, Santana.

[16:00] Andrew: Brittany's not really in these episodes. Um Mercedes isn't here. Um Jake, Ryder, they're all in this.

[16:11] Julien: There's a lot of season four people in these episodes. Will and Emma have a song in ABBA.

[16:17] Andrew: Um she sings delicate in front of the whole Glee Club, and they hug, and everything is good again. And that's the end of the episode.

[16:24] Julien: Oh no. At Niata, Rachel is practicing this song back in Kate Hudson's ballet office, and Finn is gonna come in with the rapping part, and I think Kurt and Blaine are gonna come in with the Ed Sheeran part.

[16:39] Andrew: I wanna be reputation, big reputation.

[16:46] Julien: Oh, you and me, we got big reputations. Ah and you heard about me, oh I got some big enemies.

[16:56] Andrew: Let me skip to the future, right?

[16:58] Julien: I'm so stoked. I got a reputation, girl, to don't receive me.

[17:06] Andrew: I want away. Well now you need me.

[17:09] Julien: Yeah, I'm gonna cheat side.

[17:14] Andrew: And this is Kurt and Blaine.

[17:15] Julien: Four's on the tip of my tongue, I'll never see.

[17:18] Andrew: Good night off to the storm. Something we fool in the food looking by how passage is a fun to end game of the one with four.

[17:25] Julien: It's on the tip of my tongue, I'll never see. I don't wanna touch you.

[17:30] Andrew: I could hear Clayne with the that was Ed Sheeran, right? But I the Finn.

[17:36] Julien: Finn. Ooh. He really took a risk with that one.

[17:40] Andrew: I think Corey could do it. He could pull it off.

[17:43] Julien: Okay.

[17:44] Andrew: He speaks pretty fast in Loser.

[17:48] Julien: I haven't listened to Loser in so long.

[17:50] Andrew: I we haven't pulled that yet.

[17:52] Julien: Yeah, we have yet to pull that. I feel that for tonight.

[17:55] Andrew: That feels right. Um I'm hesitant to ask. Is that the end of the episode?

[18:00] Julien: So they're gonna convince Rachel to calm the fuck down. They address the fact that Kurt and Blaine are talking again.

[18:06] Andrew: You keep on saying calm down. And like is it like just like a wink to the audience? Like we're not doing this song. It's not the same album. Wink wink wink.

[18:16] Julien: Wink quinkwink audio medium.

[18:17] Andrew: Exactly. No. They address the fact that Kurt and Blaine are talking again specifically to help Rachel. No other motives.

[18:24] Julien: Uh Kurt leaves Finn and Rachel alone and they have a sweet moment, maybe something of a Rick and doing. And that's the end of the episode.

[18:31] Andrew: Clay!

[18:32] Julien: Okay, okay. This was like all over the place, I feel.

[18:36] Andrew: It was really crazy and really spooky. And but I'm really glad that we did it together.

[18:41] Julien: Yeah.

[18:42] Andrew: Um, it was fun. Can I ask how much how long do you spend doing these episodes?

[18:47] Julien: I listened to the album like a couple times through. Fine line, I didn't have to because I know those songs so well. But I listened to the album a couple times through, and I'm like, okay, how would these play in the headcanon that I have of how season four would go?

[19:03] Andrew: Yeah.

[19:03] Julien: And then I place them, and then it takes me maybe like 20, 5 20, 25 minutes to to write these.

[19:12] Andrew: I love it. And I think the Gleeks really do too.

[19:14] Julien: I hope so. We've only released one episode.

[19:17] Andrew: One of them.

[19:19] Julien: I hope that they like the next three I have for them.

[19:21] Andrew: I know. We've done that's great. Fine line my best work coming out tomorrow.

[19:25] Julien: That was really iconic. And I really love it. And we're really gonna stop at nothing. We're gonna really put all of our funding behind these episodes.

[19:36] Andrew: So amazing. Do you want me to take this quiz that guests made?

[19:41] Julien: Our glistener today is Julien. Um they provided us with a quiz that they made. I'm looking at their submission form right now.

[19:50] Andrew: Oh my god, it starts.

[19:52] Julien: Okay, so they made this quiz with their roommate who's never seen a single episode of Glee to find out which of Mr. Shu's crimes the person taking the quiz is.

[20:03] Andrew: So, um please read us through these questions as you're I've already taken it. I already have my results.

[20:09] Julien: Okay, I I think you sent me your results.

[20:13] Andrew: Oh, fuckity. Okay. Um, retake this quiz. Here we go. Because I was looking and I was like, what the fuck is that?

[20:20] Julien: What thing that Shu what thing which thing that should have gotten Mr. Shu arrested are you?

[20:27] Andrew: Uh start quiz.

[20:28] Julien: Oh, I have to enter my name. Alison. Start quiz.

[20:32] Andrew: Right to the point, do you think Glee is good representation?

[20:35] Julien: Of course not, considering the time period it was like passable. Actually, it's not that simple. You have to take into account blah, blah, blah. You're all minorities, you're in the Glee Club.

[20:44] Andrew: Um I'm gonna say you're all minorities, you're in the Glee Club.

[20:49] Julien: Next.

[20:50] Andrew: What kind of high school student were you?

[20:53] Julien: I was a theater kid.

[20:56] Andrew: Check.

[20:58] Julien: Uh, which of these songs did you hear on Glee first?

[21:01] Andrew: According to my roommate's lack of culture. Um, I'm gonna say express Yourself by Madonna because my Madonna one um episode was the first episode I ever watched.

[21:12] Julien: I do like the option to select. I actually know all these songs because my dad is white.

[21:17] Andrew: Which is true.

[21:19] Julien: Uh favorite character according to what I remember about them. Me and Lesbian, I think, the one good singer, New York. Himbo OG, Himbo Lesser, Lil Gay Elf, the gay one that's not Twinkie, Irish lesbian OG, bisexual platinum, blonde edition, and disability porn.

[21:38] Andrew: I feel like I only know like half of who these people are.

[21:42] Julien: Mean lesbian, Santana?

[21:44] Andrew: Santana, the one good singer.

[21:46] Julien: Mercedes.

[21:48] Andrew: Okay, yeah. New York is.

[21:51] Julien: New York would be Rachel.

[21:53] Andrew: Himbo OG Finn.

[21:55] Julien: Finn.

[21:56] Andrew: Himbo Lesser Sam.

[21:57] Julien: Sam.

[21:58] Andrew: Lil Gay Elf Kurt.

[22:00] Julien: Kurt.

[22:00] Andrew: The gay one that's the gay one that's not Twinkie Blaine.

[22:03] Julien: Irish Rory.

[22:05] Andrew: Rory. Lesbian OG?

[22:07] Julien: Who's the lesbian OG?

[22:08] Andrew: Oh, is that like Jane?

[22:09] Julien: Is that Sue?

[22:10] Andrew: Sue?

[22:11] Julien: Bisexual Platinum Blonde Edition.

[22:14] Andrew: Quinn?

[22:16] Julien: It could be Britney, I guess.

[22:19] Andrew: Could.

[22:19] Julien: Disability porn is Artie.

[22:21] Andrew: I'm gonna say the gay one that's not Twinkie.

[22:24] Julien: Which of my roommates' hot takes are you?

[22:27] Andrew: Mercedes's lack of characterization is emblematic of a white man writing for a black woman, and as such, making her as accommodating as possible, even when it makes no sense.

[22:35] Julien: Two, Emma should have been canonically asexual.

[22:38] Andrew: Ooh, that's a good. Okay.

[22:40] Julien: Three, yes, Quinn is a lesbian. No, it doesn't make her character any more interesting.

[22:44] Andrew: Four, Kurt and Blaine having a double wedding with Brittany and Santana made no sense and was out of character for everyone.

[22:50] Julien: Five, if Cory Monteith wasn't so charming, we'd all hate Finn a lot more.

[22:53] Andrew: Six, the season six new kids were better than the season.

[22:56] Julien: No.

[22:57] Andrew: Uh seven, Rachel getting bored and quitting Broadway was antithetical to her entire care.

[23:03] Julien: Yes.

[23:04] Andrew: That one?

[23:04] Julien: Uh question eight. I'm not reading all of that.

[23:06] Andrew: That's good.

[23:07] Julien: Um, it's a tie between Emma should have been canonically asexual.

[23:11] Andrew: I had the same reaction to that one.

[23:12] Julien: I was like, I've never heard that take before. Yeah, but I was like, that's good. I love that.

[23:16] Andrew: Rachel getting bored and quitting Broadway was antithetical.

[23:19] Julien: I chose the one that you passed over. The season six new kids are better than season four.

[23:23] Andrew: You say that. And I'm I just watched season six and I do not agree.

[23:27] Julien: I speak. I say things, and sometimes I'm right, and I feel as though I am with that.

[23:31] Andrew: Yeah, that's okay. You can say that you're right, maybe.

[23:33] Julien: Pick a lyric, but they're all from cringy glee love confession songs.

[23:39] Andrew: Um I'm so there's Landslide, Teenage Dream, I have nothing, my man, Jesse's girl, and fat bottom girls.

[23:46] Julien: I'm gonna say my man.

[23:49] Andrew: All my life is just despair, but I don't care.

[23:53] Julien: There you go. When should Glee have ended?

[23:55] Andrew: After season three.

[23:58] Julien: Yeah. It should have never begun, babe.

[24:00] Andrew: I always said it ended at the perfect time. I was like, I I'm glad that we got all of it that we did.

[24:07] Julien: Uh, what do you think is Mr. Shu's greatest crime?

[24:11] Andrew: Performing with his students, you're all minorities, hiding weed in Finn's locker, spying on Finn in the shower, jealous incel disorder, rapping, assorted other hate crimes.

[24:19] Julien: I'm gonna say hiding weed in Finn's locker.

[24:22] Andrew: I said spying on Finn in the shower.

[24:24] Julien: Yeah.

[24:25] Andrew: Oh my god. My worst my thing that should have gotten Shu arrested is performing with his students.

[24:33] Julien: Toxic, blurred lines? Brittany Spears, our Lord and Savior did not suffer on the paparazzi cross for Mr. Shu to make a mockery of her art and stand way too close to his female students. Just ew.

[24:43] Andrew: I diagnose you with theater kid. I'm sorry, but it's incurable. Luckily, for the small cost of no money, you can stop trying to be the center of attention.

[24:52] Julien: I know, I know, but bear with me. For a couple hours and live for yourself. Dress comfortably, read trashy novels, admit you don't actually like rent.

[25:00] Andrew: It's good to sit with just yourself every now and again.

[25:03] Julien: That's fucking good. Do you feel like that adds up with you?

[25:07] Andrew: Uh yeah.

[25:08] Julien: Okay. Yeah, I am a theater kid. I'm a theater. And I was um planning weed.

[25:14] Andrew: Planning weed in Finn's locker.

[25:16] Julien: Mm-hmm. That what you what crime was did you choose when that was the question?

[25:21] Andrew: No, I I said spying on Finn in the shower.

[25:24] Julien: Oh, yeah, you said that. Okay, what are we projecting today?

[25:27] Andrew: Um, you said something.

[25:28] Julien: Loser.

[25:29] Andrew: Loser.

[25:30] Julien: I'm a loser, baby. I've been really feeling, and I say this all the time, but I feel pretty unpretty, I just want it.

[25:37] Andrew: Okay. I want to rise for the national anthem tonight.

[25:41] Julien: We are back with another glistener. Julian, how are you, Julian?

[25:44] Julien: Hi, I'm good.

[25:46] Andrew: We're so excited to talk to you and about all of your hot takes. We loved your glistener submission form, and you and Andrew have met in person, yes?

[25:57] Julien: Famously at the Lea Michele concert in Boston. Literally saw you during the concert, and I was like looking over, and I was like, that man looks so familiar to me. Like I'm pretty sure that's Andrew.

[26:06] Julien: I just kept looking over and I was like, can he notice that I'm like staring? And I was like, okay, no, I'm not gonna approach him. I'm gonna just like, I'm just gonna leave it.

[26:16] Andrew: But then you're like standing outside, and I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna ask. I'm just gonna ask.

[26:19] Julien: No, that made my entire trip. I loved.

[26:25] Julien: Thank you. I was like, how do I ask in the way that's like the least weird? But then I think I was just like, hey, what's your name? Which I guess is weird, but I was like, but it doesn't like suggest that I've been like stalking this person.

[26:39] Julien: No, I immediately knew if anybody at a Leah Michelle concert, I was like, there's a connection there. There's gonna be some Gleeks, you know. Wait, so Julien, take us through um your relationship with Glee, how you got started and where you are today with the hit Fox show.

[26:55] Julien: Yes, okay. So in New York State, there are these things called Regents exams. Um, not where you guessed this is the way this is gonna start, but yeah, I know. I'm ready for the journey. Um, so I knew like about Glee because at the time I listened to a lot of Radio Disney, and so they were always on Radio Disney, and I was like, what is this? Like, how dare they be singing Beyoncé songs? Like, what is this? Right. And my sister was like, You would like it though. Like, it seems like a thing that you would like. And I was like, No, no, no, no, no, no. No. If anyone thinks they can cover Beyoncé, I'm not gonna like it. But um, but at my school during the Regents exams, if you didn't have an exam, you could just stay home.

And so for like a week in January, I was just like at home on my couch, and I was like, you know what? It's on Netflix. Why didn't I just like see what it is? I'm just gonna watch the first episode and I'm just gonna see. Right. Um, and then I watched the two seasons that were on Netflix, and then I had to go on Hulu to get season three, because this is when season three was airing. So it was like 2011. So the first episode I watched live was Michael. Um, my mom would just like come in when they were singing and be like, they sound good, and then like leave every time plot was happening. She was like, Right. Not this part. Yeah. Um didn't sign up for this. Yeah. And that's so good. Yeah. And then I gave up, like most people during season four.

Um, I think the last episode I watched was like the wedding episode. Um still a fave. I love that episode. Um it's pretty good. And then the only episode, and then I watched the quarterback live, and then I was like, this hurts too much. I'm giving up on this show forever. I'm never watching this again. Right. This is like my sister and I were like sobbing, and my family was like, what's wrong? And we were like, he died. And they were like, who cares? And you're like, okay. Um and then I remember I watched season six live, just because it was like the last season. It was my senior year of high school. Right. I was like, I'll watch this live. And then I was like, that was fine. Um and every year at Christmas, I rewatched the Christmas episodes, and every year I'm like, you know what?

I love this show. I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it. And then every single time I get halfway through season three, and I'm like, no. Yeah, never mind. Yep. What what is the cutoff for you during season three that you just can't stand?

[29:27] Julien: Um, I start skipping a lot of episodes towards the end. So like I do watch like Nationals graduation, um, but like I can't watch the Spanish teacher. I'm like, I can't why would I do that?

[29:39] Andrew: I agree.

[29:40] Julien: You know, yeah. No, it's not for anybody.

[29:42] Andrew: Julien, in your submission form, you said that one of your favorite episodes is a season six episode.

[29:51] Julien: Yes.

[29:52] Andrew: Oh my god. Wait, can we guess?

[29:56] Julien: Yes.

[29:57] Andrew: Yes.

[29:58] Julien: Both guests.

[29:58] Andrew: I'm gonna guess my favorite episode from season six, which is Jagged Little Tapestry.

[30:06] Julien: What are you saying?

[30:06] Andrew: I'm gonna say Child Star.

[30:10] Julien: Sleeper hit.

[30:10] Andrew: Sleeper hit.

[30:14] Julien: Actually, it's 2009. No, I'm just kidding.

[30:15] Julien: Um, it is Jagged Little Tapestry.

[30:19] Andrew: Yeah, no, it's so great. I think it's like that could just be in like any other season. I feel like it's like on par with like a season two episode almost. I really wish that season four was season six, and they just did season six from the beginning.

[30:34] Julien: Um, because there's a lot I like about season six. I really like the new characters. I think they're their own people, and they're not trying so hard to just be like carbon copies, which is what I feel like makes the season four characters flat. I'm like, I don't I can't care about any of you because you keep reminding me like I'm the new Quinn. Why wouldn't I just watch Quinn?

[30:55] Andrew: Um like an old episode, yeah.

[30:57] Julien: Yeah, so I feel that, and one of your we're going to talk about your quiz. So good. I just took it and found out which will show crime I am, and I'm so glad I have that information now.

[31:11] Andrew: But in your quiz, one of the hot takes is that the season six kids are more interesting than the season four kids.

[31:19] Julien: And I just watched season six, like literally two days ago, I just finished.

[31:24] Julien: But I rewatched and I just finished a rewatch, and I can see what you're saying about the season six kids. Like, I think the plot points are interesting for me, but I think the the fact that they're not fleshed out makes me not care because I can't put my own imagination into it.

[31:46] Julien: Like the the base is there, but the depth isn't, so I'm just like eh, okay. Um, and two, the quality of acting by a few members of the season six kids.

[32:00] Andrew: Um, leaves something to be desired.

[32:02] Julien: Oh my god, drag them.

[32:03] Andrew: Who maybe maybe has been a previous click the week process of elimination.

[32:15] Julien: Okay.

[32:15] Julien: I but I think that that that person also obviously has the strongest voice, uh, an incredible voice.

[32:24] Andrew: Yes.

[32:24] Julien: Of all the new kids. And also, I would say just in general from the Glee cast. Amazing.

[32:28] Andrew: And I think that uh we we refer to him as not like other gays, but what is this actually meaning?

[32:36] Julien: Spencer?

[32:37] Andrew: Spencer.

[32:38] Julien: But no, I mean more popularly known.

[32:40] Andrew: More popularly like other gays.

[32:42] Julien: Fuck Spencer. All my homies hate Spencer.

[32:44] Andrew: Like, no, it's not real.

[32:46] Julien: Like the acting's not there, the singing's not there. It's like I'm bored.

[32:51] Andrew: Like, I don't even want to watch you.

[32:52] Julien: Like, at least Ryder could carry a tune.

[32:55] Julien: Jake can act.

[32:57] Andrew: Yeah, can't sing.

[32:59] Julien: What was the purpose? I remember someone, I think it was like in a glistener submission. Someone said that like he's giving like gays for Trump representation.

[33:06] Julien: And I'm like, this god, I can't.

[33:10] Julien: I there's he does nothing.

[33:12] Julien: Like, I have like please let us know, glisteners, if any of you fuck with Spencer.

[33:17] Julien: Spencer heads.

[33:19] Julien: Like, does absolutely nothing.

[33:22] Julien: I hate it.

[33:23] Andrew: Yeah.

[33:24] Julien: Yeah.

[33:25] Julien: Can you defend Spencer, Julien?

[33:26] Julien: I can't.

[33:27] Julien: Or no.

[33:28] Julien: I can't defend Spencer. I can defend all of the rest of them, but not Spencer.

[33:31] Julien: They were really just like, all of our gay characters so far have been like stereotypes. How do we like not be a stereotype? And then just created another stereotype.

[33:35] Andrew: I like overcorrection.

[33:42] Julien: Yeah. Well, I think at that point it's like they've already had like so many different variations of gay men that it was like, oh, like let's try like a different kind of gay man instead of like just going into another LGBT. You know what I mean? Just like let's let's try a different type of lesbian or bisexual, which they famously fucked up on more than one occasion on this show. But like it they were like, no, let's let's really delve into not like other gays as this, you know, postmodern.

[34:12] Andrew: We're all minorities.

[34:13] Julien: Yeah, postmodern gay.

[34:15] Andrew: Yeah.

[34:17] Julien: Yeah, that's basically.

[34:19] Julien: I mean, we could have had a non-white gay male character.

[34:21] Andrew: We could have done that.

[34:22] Julien: He could have not been white.

[34:24] Julien: There were people like um in our DMs recently, because in a recent episode we referred to Blaine as white, but then people came for us and they said that Blaine is not white, but he's like canonically like Filipino.

[34:41] Julien: I don't know.

[34:41] Julien: Because Darren Criss is Darren Criss is like canonic is canonically.

[34:48] Julien: Canonically Filipino.

[34:51] Andrew: I don't know where I stand with that because I feel like the character of Blaine definitely is white.

[34:55] Julien: The character's written to be white.

[34:57] Andrew: Like the actor playing him is not white, but that doesn't mean that the character isn't written to be white.

[35:03] Julien: Like there's nothing written in his character that would suggest he's not white.

[35:07] Julien: Like, you know, like even well, I mean, this is not a perfect comparison because Santana and Mercedes are very clearly like visibly women of color, but they like refer to their culture.

[35:18] Julien: Well, they refer to stereotypes, but like Santana speaks Spanish, like Mercedes talks about having weave, like their culture is part of their character, and that just doesn't exist for Blaine unless you want to talk about the season three prom hair thing, but that's still not inherently like I don't know where I fall with that.

[35:38] Andrew: Food for thought.

[35:39] Julien: Um, Julian, another thing on your listener submission form.

[35:43] Julien: Andrew and I are both famously trivia hosts, and you won Glee themed trivia, which absolutely kills me.

[35:52] Andrew: Where's the happening?

[35:53] Julien: I get in in Boston.

[35:55] Andrew: How many people showed up? How many games were there? What kind of rounds were there? We need to know the details.

[36:01] Julien: So many people showed up. Okay, so it was at this place called Trident Bookseller and Cafe in Boston. Um, it was like a full room of Gleeks. They were like playing Glee's songs, and we all started singing the same song and missed the same note at the same time.

[36:14] Julien: Um I don't even remember. I think it was like a Rachel solo, and we were all like, ooh, no, we did not have that note.

[36:19] Julien: Um nobody got that one.

[36:22] Julien: Yeah, I don't even remember what the rounds were anymore.

[36:25] Julien: It was mostly questions from like seasons one through three.

[36:27] Julien: Like the trivia host was like, Don't worry, I don't have anything past season three on here.

[36:31] Julien: And I was like, Great, in a bag, I've got this.

[36:34] Andrew: No Spencer trivia here.

[36:36] Julien: Yeah.

[36:37] Julien: Um I wish I could remember the trivia team names because those were also really fun.

[36:41] Julien: Um, I think one of them was like McKinley Diversity Hires, um, because besides me, they were like the only other people of color there.

[36:50] Julien: Um that was fun.

[36:52] Julien: Um, my team was Rachel Defense Squad.

[36:55] Andrew: Um, that is okay.

[36:57] Julien: Big part of my personality is being a Rachel Defender.

[37:01] Julien: I'm a Rachel apologist first and person second.

[37:04] Andrew: Wow, okay.

[37:05] Julien: I feel like should we unpack that?

[37:08] Andrew: Where is that because that's so seldom defiant.

[37:11] Julien: Well, maybe not. I feel like there are a lot of Rachel Defenders, but please defend Rachel. What are your favorite things about Rachel?

[37:16] Julien: I have a list.

[37:19] Julien: Um this is so silly.

[37:23] Julien: Okay, so some of these are just very like I was watching Glee from the beginning of to do my glacket because I was like, uh Andrew and Alison don't know what they're doing. I'm just gonna do this myself.

[37:33] Julien: Um had to watch the whole show to do my glacket, and as I was watching, I was writing down reasons to like Rachel.

[37:39] Julien: Um so I the first one is that in like episode two, she says that like girls want sex just as bad as boys do.

[37:48] Julien: And I remember as a teenager feeling like that is so like feminist girl boss moment.

[37:52] Julien: Like, when do female characters get to be like, we want sex too.

[37:56] Julien: Like I was very impressed by that as a teenager, and I think it just like stayed with me.

[38:02] Julien: Um I always I also thought it was endearing that she called Puck by his first name.

[38:08] Julien: Um that's cute.

[38:11] Julien: My Puckleberry heart just like skipped a beat.

[38:14] Julien: Yeah, I just she's a very like, you know how like moms will always call your friends their full name, even if they have a nickname.

[38:21] Julien: You're like mom chuck is coming. She's like, Oh, is Charles coming?

[38:25] Julien: Like Rachel gives that energy, and I just find it very cute.

[38:29] Julien: Um yeah.

[38:30] Julien: I'm like, you know, how are we gonna hate the person that created Run Joey One Run?

[38:34] Julien: Like, how are we gonna do that?

[38:36] Andrew: So true.

[38:36] Julien: Yeah, yeah.

[38:37] Julien: And then I also just thought she was very good to Quinn when she was pregnant, outside of the like telling Finn thing, but like outside of that big thing.

[38:46] Andrew: Yeah.

[38:47] Julien: That was a big thing.

[38:48] Julien: But characters just do anything for the sake of plot, which is the other problem.

[38:52] Julien: Like every time people are like, Your care your character is problematic, they did this. I'm like, well, they did that because Glee believes in plot over character.

[38:59] Julien: Like, is it in character for this person to do this?

[39:03] Julien: And season one, I mean, yes.

[39:06] Julien: Like she is very, very ambitious. She'll do anything to get what she wants or gets ahead.

[39:11] Julien: And also, I just love evil women.

[39:15] Julien: Like, I just love women who are ambitious and cutthroat and like will do whatever they need to do.

[39:21] Julien: I like I I love them.

[39:24] Andrew: You've sold me.

[39:27] Julien: You've sold me.

[39:28] Andrew: Um wait, Julien, you reference your own glacket that you created.

[39:32] Julien: And I just wanna understand and explain to the Gleeks how you developed this and how it's different than how we are running things here.

[39:40] Julien: Yes.

[39:41] Julien: Okay.

[39:42] Julien: So my girlfriend loves spreadsheets.

[39:45] Julien: And so I was like screaming out loud to Apple Podcasts, and she was like, Why don't you just do this to yourself if you're this disappointed in their decisions?

[39:54] Julien: I was like, I was like, you know what?

[39:57] Julien: I will. And so the way we did it is we go episode by episode. So every single episode I pick the best song, and then that will go through to like the qualifiers and then there'll be all the qualifiers and then it'll go to like top ten, top six, top right until I get to like the best per season. Um and then like the winner for each season will go head to head until I get to the winner of the whole series.

[40:26] Andrew: Okay. And you haven't you haven't finished it yet, or have you?

[40:29] Julien: I have.

[40:29] Andrew: Then what's the best song on Glee?

[40:31] Julien: Okay, so I did this a few months ago, and We Are Young from season three was found to be the best song on Glee.

[40:38] Andrew: But recently I've—

[40:40] Julien: Really?

[40:41] Andrew: Okay.

[40:41] Julien: Yeah. Cause I like so the finalists were like, why did I not pull up my Glocket?

[40:48] Andrew: You think I would have always have your glacket on standby.

[40:51] Julien: Right? Oh, I have strapped with your I have your glacket up, but I don't have mine.

[40:58] Andrew: Okay.

[40:59] Julien: You you're coming with the receipts.

[41:01] Andrew: Yeah.

[41:01] Julien: I was like looking at it like wrong, wrong, wrong.

[41:01] Andrew: Wrong, wrong wrong.

[41:07] Julien: Okay. This is why you're here to educate us, truly.

[41:11] Julien: Oh, it's coming. Um, so for season one, and I'm telling you one My Men won season two, and then We Are Young won season three, Numpush City Limits won season four, Gloria one season five, and What the World Needs Now won season six. So I was watching it. Oh, and for some reason when I did the finals, I decided to be like, what do I have the biggest emotional reaction to? And so like obviously I have the biggest emotional reaction to We Are Young, because it's like season three, they're all in the auditorium. It's like the last time Glee is really gonna be like that. Um like all the trouble tones come back, and like when Finn grabbed Santana's hands, then I just started sobbing because I was like obviously. And that's why it won.

[42:02] Andrew: And that's why it won.

[42:03] Julien: Because I cried for like 10 minutes after watching it.

[42:05] Andrew: Wow.

[42:06] Julien: Oh, I love that. We are young is so good. Alison, I don't think you don't like that nearly as much as I think.

[42:10] Andrew: It's not I do not. I don't think I don't have the emotional attachment to that song.

[42:16] Julien: I think the people that like it, just like you, Julian, really, really have an emotion towards it.

[42:22] Julien: And I haven't watched season three anytime recently. Um to understand that. But I'm I'm going back. I just finished season six. Now I'm going back to season three. First, I'm gonna watch all seven or eight seasons of Game of Thrones. Then I'm gonna go back to season three. Um but I will, and I uh by the end of this Glackett, I will understand the love for We Are Young. I promise you.

[42:47] Andrew: Yeah. But or maybe I'll just come with a completely different take and we're here. And I'll be like, something in there was weird for me. I don't know. Maybe.

[42:56] Julien: Jule Julian, as you go through our glacket, what are things that you hated?

[43:01] Julien: Okay. Where did we flop?

[43:03] Julien: Have a list. I like Christmas music more than both of you, so I get very upset when Christmas songs can't go through. I'm like, you're not giving it a chance. Like, Oh Holy Night is my favorite Christmas song. Um, specifically the cup.

[43:19] Andrew: Pause. The we need to talk about the cup that you're drinking out of. Are you kidding?

[43:25] Julien: Okay, audio medium. Julian has a glee season two promotional cup.

[43:33] Andrew: Where did you get this?

[43:35] Julien: Okay, so if you want like old Glee merch, you've gotta get it off eBay. Literally.

[43:41] Andrew: Iconic.

[43:42] Julien: So good. eBay just circled circulated. I know you saw these, Andrew.

[43:46] Andrew: Those old uh outfit photos.

[43:49] Julien: Yeah. Oh, they're so good. We're still getting glee content in 2022, and I love it.

[43:57] Andrew: We love it. Anyways, back to where I'm gonna do it. Sorry to interrupt you.

[43:59] Julien: Yeah, yeah. Where did we flop?

[44:01] Julien: Okay, so where did you flop? Bye bye. Okay, so all right. So I was very uh upset about um blaming on the alcohol, losing to run Joey Run, but you brought it back, so I forgive you. But at the time, I was like, how fucking dare you? Um about Run Joey Run.

[44:23] Andrew: I know, I know. Like, I understand it's hard. I understand it's hard. Like when you did Don't Stop versus Hand in My Pocket, I was like, I don't even know what I would do because those are two of my favorite leak covers, like really ever. I don't know, I don't know. It sucks. We live to see another day, if you could believe it.

[44:42] Julien: I know, I know. So, like, I like understood that it was hard, but at the time I was like, I can't believe this. Uh yeah, the fact that constant craving didn't go through, I was very upset and hurt by I understand the shelvy of it all, but I just feel like this antenna of it all was enough that it should have gone through.

[45:01] Andrew: Yeah, I believe I I feel like I do this every time that a glistener comes with these receipts, but I feel like I did vote for content craving. I don't know if you remember this, Julian. Everybody seems to I feel like I did, and I just want to say that. I I feel like I usually agree with you on most things, not everything.

[45:21] Julien: Okay, like some of them. More and more people keep saying that. I'm like, Alan, haven't you ever watched the glee box show, please? Have you seen it?

[45:29] Andrew: Have you ever watched it?

[45:30] Julien: Yeah, I just finished it actually. I just finished season six.

[45:35] Andrew: Because you wouldn't think.

[45:37] Julien: Yeah, you wouldn't think. After 81 episodes. Um this goddamn podcast, Julian, before we get into the our songs, what are we rooting for tonight?

[45:49] Julien: Um what songs? I feel like I want songs that like I would fight for that other people wouldn't. So I really want like being good isn't good enough, like the Rachel Solo from season four. Because I love it. I'm like, who else is gonna fight for her? I don't know. Nobody talks about that.

[46:04] Andrew: Yeah. Nobody talks about that.

[46:05] Julien: I would love um some season six, maybe. I feel like season six either is like the they're really, really good or they're terrible. So I feel like that might be a monkey's cough thing to like be manifesting. It's gonna like bring up like breaking free. And I'm like, that's not what I wanted. Or yeah, no. Not breaking free. Break what's the Ariana Grande song that they do? Break free.

[46:30] Andrew: Break free, yes, yeah. Although we might have already pulled that one.

[46:33] Julien: We have. And I believe that it's going through, and people were mad about that.

[46:37] Andrew: Yeah. Wait, from Child Star?

[46:39] Julien: Yeah, that is from Child Star.

[46:40] Julien: Yeah. I also have this because I just have like a 25th birthday party.

[46:45] Andrew: You have your own.

[46:47] Julien: Yeah, how wait. And this is all my guests drink out of at my birthday party.

[46:51] Andrew: Wait, that's so good.

[46:53] Julien: That's so cute. I'm obsessed.

[46:57] Andrew: How was that birthday party?

[46:59] Julien: It was really fun. Um, it was mainly really chill. We like played taboo. Um, the Gleeks versus the warblers. The Gleaks one, because that was my team. Um we mostly just like hung out. It was more of like a chill hangout than like, you know, it wasn't like lit, but it was still fun.

[47:21] Andrew: Sure. It wasn't the blame it on the alcohol episode of Glee.

[47:24] Julien: Unfortunately, no, it was not like Blame on that call. Although I did have slushies, was the main drink where I just bought a bunch of Slurpees from 7-Eleven and like dumped vodka into them.

[47:34] Andrew: I love that.

[47:35] Julien: So good. Truly delicious.

[47:39] Andrew: Okay. Our first song of the night.

[47:43] Julien: A song that's called something that we've already pulled. I will have to put like quotations after it to be like season three version. Oh, wait, I'm struggling. Here we go. Here we go. It's a risky artistic choice weaving the jets into America, but already insisted. I just hope that people go with it, you know.

[48:08] Julien: My heart's devotion. Let it sink back in the ocean. Always the hurricane's blowing. Always the population growing. And the money owing. And the sunlight streaming. And the native steaming. I like the island Manhattan. I know you'll do mo gone your hype. And put that in. I like to be an American. Okay, by being a medic. Give me the free in America. For a small feeling America. Lots of new housing with more space. Lots of door slamming in our face. I'll get the terrace apartment. Better get rid of your accent. That can be bright and America. If you can fight in America. There is a bright in America. If you're a white in America.

[49:46] Julien: Long as you stay on your own side. Free to be anything you choose. Free to win tables and shine shoes. Okay, but be in America.

[50:24] Julien: Okay, I just now am understanding what Emma says at the beginning. Like it was a directorial choice to lead the Jets into America, but Artie wanted to do it. And I was like, just hope people go with it. Just people go with it. Like who would have noticed? I mean, like, I'm just like trying to like. Yeah. That wasn't what I mean at my notes, because I'm like, are people gonna walk out if like the Jets go in? The Jets in America? I'm like, uh-uh. That's where I draw the line. That's enough. Everyone, let's go.

[50:56] Julien: Um, Julianne, what do you think about America Clee Casper in season three version by three version?

[51:03] Julien: Okay. Um, first, Santana is a star. Um, that's my first impression. She's great. She carries that whole number because everyone else, I'm like, why are you here? Why are you in this? Um, you know, so like all of the accent work, I'm like, this feels offensive. Did you need to pretend to have is that supposed to be like a Puerto Rican accent? I don't right. I don't know. They're like, everyone who looks vaguely brown, you can be in this number. You can like even like Rory, like you're an immigrant. Like, let's go.

[51:36] Julien: I will I will say though that Tina, we just had a thing where it was like, what's the best part of songs that like scratches that itch in your brain for you? Her, I know you do. That you're talking about Latina?

[51:51] Julien: Latina? Yeah, I know. That takes me out. I feel like that does the opposite for me. Tina's, I know you can absolutely cringe for me for whatever reason.

[52:03] Julien: No, I I agree. Everyone who's not Santa, I'm like, I this is so much. And then I was like, where are all of these like fucking brown students that we never ever see? Like this girl through like beautiful natural hair. I'm like, why we are wasting these extras to just have them for this one number.

[52:24] Andrew: Right. Right.

[52:25] Julien: Why are they not front and center? That they are like are interested enough in musical theater to be part of West Side's story, but like they were like, I draw the line at Glee Club. No. I'm like, okay. I it's like Glee constantly doesn't know what lane it's in, and I feel like this is a prime example.

[52:42] Andrew: It's true. We've got all these theater kids, but no glee kids.

[52:46] Julien: Um is there a drama club? I always wonder that.

[52:50] Andrew: Oh.

[52:50] Julien: I like, is there a drama club? Because the Glee kids are always one putting on the musicals, but then where did you get all of the rest of these kids from? Like, are they in drama club and you just like take over whenever you need to do a musical?

[53:04] Andrew: Right. Right.

[53:05] Julien: Or I'm confused. I will say I like Naya's version of this more than Ariana DeBo's.

[53:19] Andrew: I could see why you would say that.

[53:20] Julien: Yeah.

[53:21] Andrew: But I will I will not say that our that Naya's this song is better than Ariana DeBoes's song in the musical, because Noah Puckerman takes me out.

[53:33] Julien: I think, yeah.

[53:35] Andrew: Noah, yeah, Puck does take me out.

[53:37] Julien: But where would you rank the Rita Moreno version?

[53:41] Andrew: Um I mean, that's this the one that I like grew up with.

[53:48] Julien: But I think Naya's version is more close to my heart because it's from my favorite TV show of all time.

[53:56] Andrew: Right.

[53:58] Julien: I don't know. I really need to I'll spend time with friends and family and figure out where the America ranking is.

[54:05] Andrew: Meditate.

[54:06] Julien: Meditate, I'll get back to you because I feel really conflicted. Julian, do you have any thoughts on this on this conversation?

[54:13] Julien: Um, West Side Story is not a musical that I like how super strong things about it. Like I've seen it more than a couple of times. Um I did watch the like the new one with Ariana Dubose. Um, mainly just for her.

[54:29] Andrew: Um she was incredible, and like, yes, you go earn that Oscar.

[54:34] Julien: Was it an Oscar? I don't even remember.

[54:35] Andrew: Yeah.

[54:37] Julien: Um yeah, but I think that just by nature of being a movie, it's more interesting to watch because you can do more choreography. Um the choreography for this one, like is they're on a stage, so they can really only be on stage.

[54:52] Andrew: Um also I don't find the extras distracting in the movie version whereas this one. I'm like, this is the racial implications of the way that you cast this musical are very distracting.

[55:05] Julien: I know.

[55:07] Andrew: Yes. I know, and I love this song, and I remember when this episode came out and it introduced me to so many songs from West Side Story, but particularly this one, because this one was obviously the one that landed for me from West Side Story, but like I just I loved it so much.

[55:24] Julien: But like I guess like as I've grown older and like really like watched the Rita Moreno version, and like I remember watching the Ariana DeBoes America in theaters, and like I remember crying watching it, and it was like I don't know what it is about this.

[55:40] Andrew: America, I know I think what it is is that like things like flash mobs have always like made me cry. I love flash mobs, like I love a flash mob moment, and for whatever reason, in my blood, I will shed a tear.

[55:53] Julien: And so, like that final part where they're like all like in the intersection and they're causing like traffic and whatever, and um there's like children dancing and whatever. I'm just like, I want to like cry just thinking like it's so it's so beautiful.

[56:07] Andrew: It really next song. Any any other thoughts?

[56:12] Julien: My last thought is I think I made this point with something's coming, but the versions of these songs, like uh they twist around the lyrics to mean different things with their like use, like like their conjunction words mostly.

[56:31] Andrew: How they use and or this country and that country, like the original Broadway cast recording version is different than the Rita Moreno Natalie Wood movie version is different than uh Ariana DeBoe's version.

[56:48] Julien: And I think the one that Gleeks correct me if I'm wrong in uh in our DMs, but I think the version that Glee presents West Side Story is the movie version.

[57:00] Andrew: Or no, is the original Broadway cast recording version because something's coming is the exact same way because something's coming at the very end of the movie version that to na is very like uh like very light, but Blaine is like screaming it.

[57:16] Julien: Oh, that's so interesting.

[57:17] Andrew: Because that's the original Broadway cast recording version.

[57:20] Julien: Ooh, okay look into it. The lyrics are different, like there are things like and babies are crying or people are dying, and they change words around.

[57:31] Andrew: I love it.

[57:32] Julien: I love how different.

[57:34] Andrew: Yeah, there's like there's different lyrics in in different America versions. Um, but I love it. And I can't I can't stress enough how much I love it, and I love the um the babies growing and the pregnancy uh dance move that Naya does. It's iconic.

[57:49] Julien: Um, it's great. Uh it would have been a crime if we didn't see this number in this episode. If they were just like, hey, Santana, you're really great in America, and we just simply didn't see it. Cut it out.

[58:01] Andrew: Um, okay. On to the next song. I'm scared.

[58:09] Julien: Okay.

[58:10] Andrew: It's a season five.

[58:12] Julien: Um, we've referenced this song a number of times.

[58:16] Andrew: Ooh, okay.

[58:17] Julien: Um season five, episode two.

[58:22] Andrew: Beatles.

[58:23] Julien: Oh.

[58:25] Andrew: And we're gonna know what it is right from this screen grab. We know what it is.

[58:29] Julien: Yeah, wait, this is a hard competition for me.

[58:38] Andrew: Here comes the sun.

[58:42] Julien: Here comes the sun, I say it's alright.

[58:52] Andrew: Little darling, it's been a long, cold, lonely winter.

[58:59] Julien: Little darling, it feels like you since it's been here.

[59:07] Andrew: Here comes the sun do-doo.

[59:11] Julien: Here comes the sun, I say it's alright.

[59:24] Andrew: Little darling, the smile sweet turned into their faces.

[59:32] Julien: Little darling, it seems like you since it's been here.

[59:39] Andrew: Here comes the sun. Doo-doo-doo-doo.

[59:43] Julien: Here comes the sun. And I say it's alright.

[1:00:02] Andrew: Side the sun here becomes Little Darlin.

[1:00:16] Julien: I feel that I slowly melting.

[1:00:22] Andrew: Little darling, it seems like you since it's been clear.

[1:00:28] Julien: Yeah.

[1:00:30] Andrew: But here comes the sun.

[1:00:34] Julien: Here comes the sun, I say.

[1:00:37] Andrew: It's alright.

[1:00:43] Julien: It's alright.

[1:00:49] Andrew: Sun, sun, sun, here they comes.

[1:00:56] Julien: Oh, this is where I get off.

[1:00:57] Andrew: Oh my god. Julien, start us off with this course.

[1:01:02] Julien: Okay, so the important thing to know here is that Demi the Vado is my second favorite artist of all time. Important to know.

[1:01:09] Andrew: Okay.

[1:01:09] Julien: Yes.

[1:01:10] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:01:11] Julien: So I have a lot of feelings. I can't even begin to like.

[1:01:18] Andrew: Okay, I'm gonna try and put words to like what a big deal it was for me in high school that Demi the Vado was on Glee.

[1:01:26] Julien: Like I stopped watching and started watching again because they were like Demi the Vado is here.

[1:01:30] Andrew: And I was like, I if she if they're there, I'll be there.

[1:01:33] Julien: Um there's that. There is also after this episode, I listened to this song so much that I could not listen to it for like a good five years.

[1:01:45] Andrew: Like every single day over and over and over again, I would just listen to the song on a loop.

[1:01:51] Julien: Okay, I love that.

[1:01:53] Andrew: Okay.

[1:01:54] Julien: Yeah. This song is so good.

[1:01:57] Andrew: I'm completely right there with you. Demi Lovato, I I love Demi Lovato.

[1:02:03] Julien: And I wish that Danny as a character had been way more fleshed out. I will go on this Glee podcast and I will say I ship Danny and Santana a little bit more than uh Santana than Britannia.

[1:02:17] Andrew: Um, don't do that.

[1:02:20] Julien: Oh no. Don't do that.

[1:02:23] Andrew: Oh, I gotta be sick.

[1:02:26] Julien: Only because only because I wanted to see how they played out. I wanted to see where the relationship was.

[1:02:32] Andrew: Demi Lovato is a guest star. It's not gonna be good.

[1:02:34] Julien: Demi was a permanent, a permanent part of the show.

[1:02:40] Andrew: Stop!

[1:02:40] Julien: Okay. I'm if Danny as a character had been permanent, I think Danny and Santana would have been great.

[1:02:47] Andrew: It felt like a very adult relationship. I liked it.

[1:02:51] Julien: Uh really just say things.

[1:02:55] Andrew: You just say things. I'm like, she's really just gonna say that, huh?

[1:02:58] Julien: She's just gonna we're just gonna have to just sit back and just listen, huh?

[1:03:03] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:03:04] Julien: Um okay. It's really hard to be in this conversation because Glee's Oh, I'm not saying like don't ship Britannia.

[1:03:13] Andrew: I'm saying You all know what I'm about to say about this song.

[1:03:18] Julien: I don't care for it. Because I think it's a beautiful MP3.

[1:03:23] Andrew: MB3 alone, if I was just like out somewhere and I never watched the hit fox show Glee, I would have been like, sure, this slaps.

[1:03:30] Julien: I would play it again. And you know what? I did in 20 uh 13 when this came out.

[1:03:35] Andrew: Sure.

[1:03:35] Julien: I played it a few times, even though it made me bitter to the bone of what it did to Britanna.

[1:03:42] Andrew: It was sick.

[1:03:43] Julien: And I don't think that either of you are really recognizing what it did to Britann as a ship.

[1:03:48] Andrew: And it really just I don't know.

[1:03:50] Julien: Okay. Okay. So in this episode.

[1:03:53] Andrew: Wait, Julien, you want to say something?

[1:03:55] Julien: I think that what Danny and Santana does as a ship is it makes it make more sense when she goes back to Brittany.

[1:04:01] Andrew: I think it's good when ships like break up for a while and they date other people who they're like compatible with and like it seems fine, but they just want to be with like, you know, their person.

[1:04:13] Julien: Like I think it adds fuel to the Britannia fire, in my opinion.

[1:04:17] Andrew: Okay.

[1:04:18] Julien: Well, I think that like one of the things in this episode in particular that like drew Danny and Santana together was that Santana was like, oh yeah, I have this girlfriend, but she was bisexual, and I can't be with someone like that because they're so unreliable and like they're gonna like stray for penis.

[1:04:34] Andrew: Thank you. We should consider that.

[1:04:35] Julien: Consider that when voting.

[1:04:39] Andrew: Consider that when you go to the polls.

[1:04:41] Julien: Um I've been sweating.

[1:04:42] Andrew: Uh it's it's not good.

[1:04:45] Julien: Um, and uh, and I'm just like it we do get correct me if I'm wrong, I skip over these scenes because I can't watch Danny and Santana, but I correct me if I'm wrong, we do get a Danny and Santana kiss right after this song, I believe.

[1:05:01] Andrew: A little smack around them out.

[1:05:03] Julien: But it does happen.

[1:05:04] Andrew: Um but and then also correct me if I'm wrong, we had to wait three seasons for Brittany and Santana to kiss, and not even 45 minutes for Danny and Santana.

[1:05:15] Julien: Okay, okay.

[1:05:17] Andrew: Okay, well, Santana and Britt.

[1:05:22] Julien: I guess Santana and Brittany were realizing who they were.

[1:05:25] Andrew: Season one, they're 16. They're figuring out who they are as people, they're figuring it out, and then Finchel was also 16 figuring it out.

[1:05:34] Julien: I mean they like keep it in context.

[1:05:36] Andrew: Are you making out on the bed in season two?

[1:05:41] Julien: They're kissing each other's necks.

[1:05:43] Andrew: They're kissing each other's necks.

[1:05:45] Julien: We do not get a kiss.

[1:05:46] Andrew: But they are canonically hooking up in season one.

[1:05:49] Julien: Okay, off screen.

[1:05:50] Andrew: If the camera's not there, I don't I don't I'm not there.

[1:05:55] Julien: We're not there as the audience.

[1:05:56] Andrew: That's true.

[1:05:57] Julien: That's true. We can hear about as many kisses as as possible, but as long as we see them, it doesn't count.

[1:06:06] Andrew: Demi Lovato had in their contract a kiss.

[1:06:06] Julien: A kiss.

[1:06:11] Andrew: I need to kiss Naya Rivera, or I'm not gonna be on the show.

[1:06:19] Julien: Honestly.

[1:06:20] Andrew: So true.

[1:06:22] Julien: I no, I love this song. I just I if we can be Rachel apologists on this episode, I'm gonna be Danny Demi Lovato apologist because I love Demi Lovato.

[1:06:34] Andrew: And I love Demi Lovato on Glee. I think it made sense. It worked. No, but Julien, I thank you for bringing that up about like, you know, this little like rebound thing. I think that was like I've never been I've never done that take before, but I'm like, yeah, that actually makes sense for Santana to then go back to Brittany. Yeah, I love that.

[1:06:56] Julien: Yeah. I watch a lot of Boy Meets World. It's one of my other favorite shows. And so when they do the like Cory is with Lauren, and then being with Lauren makes him realize that like he wants to be with Topanga. And like it's like that. You know, you're like a disposable love interest to make like the main love interest more appealing. And also Danny says 100% sapphic goddess, which is the worst thing anyone has ever said. Who says things like that?

[1:07:22] Andrew: Danny, okay. Danny, justify that. Danny's terrible, and it's time that we fucking talk about. I'm sorry.

[1:07:30] Julien: No, you're right. You're right. You can't trust me and my ships, okay? I've been shipping Samchel for the past week. Okay? I can't be trusted. I think problematic ships are okay. What's not okay are boring ships. And so that's why I can't vote with you on the Samuel thing. Sorry.

[1:07:47] Andrew: Julien, you are invited back every single fucking week to step on Allison's neck.

[1:07:54] Julien: Oh that was the best thing that's ever happened to me. Thank you for that. That was so problematic ships are okay, but I draw the line at boring ships.

[1:08:07] Andrew: Wow.

[1:08:08] Julien: Wow, okay. Well, when it comes down to it, here comes the sun versus America. What are what Julien, where are you going?

[1:08:16] Julien: I'm so torn. I was really ready to be like, Here comes the sun a hundred percent, but not been reminded of the biphobia. And I'm like, can I vote for biphobia?

[1:08:25] Andrew: Uh I I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna place your vote for you. I'm obviously voting for America.

[1:08:32] Julien: Um voting for America.

[1:08:35] Andrew: Uh Allison, do you know who you're gonna vote?

[1:08:37] Allison: I'm voting for Here Comes the Sun.

[1:08:39] Andrew: Okay, Julien.

[1:08:40] Julien: Dude and do do. This is up to me then.

[1:08:44] Andrew: It really is.

[1:08:45] Julien: Wow. You know, you want power and then you get the power, and you're like, I know.

[1:08:53] Andrew: You made your own glacket, Julien.

[1:08:56] Julien: The day has come.

[1:08:58] Andrew: The day has come.

[1:09:00] Julien: Okay. I'm gonna say Here Comes the Sun.

[1:09:06] Andrew: Yes!

[1:09:07] Julien: I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry for this. I'm sorry to have to watch it again. I hope you don't share your ad at the end of this episode.

[1:09:18] Andrew: Oh my god, that was good.

[1:09:19] Julien: No. You have to go with your gut. You listened to it so much that you couldn't listen to it for five years.

[1:09:25] Andrew: That is like I did listen to it so it's just like the harmonies, both of their voices together, like it just.

[1:09:34] Julien: It sounds like biphobia.

[1:09:36] Andrew: No.

[1:09:39] Julien: Don't do that.

[1:09:40] Andrew: I can do whatever I want.

[1:09:42] Julien: I lost.

[1:09:44] Andrew: That's true. I mean, I'm saying that I ship Dantana more than Britannna, so we're just saying anything on this clip button.

[1:09:50] Julien: No, that's fine. Julien, you voted for Tantana. You can't say anything.

[1:09:59] Andrew: Okay, the next song I have. We've been talking about it a lot, but I think it's just like when me and Andrew have been talking.

[1:10:09] Julien: And for some reason.

[1:10:11] ♪ Musical number: "Pompeii" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[1:12:05] Andrew: Hello?

[1:12:06] Julien: Yes.

[1:12:09] Andrew: Oh.

[1:12:12] Julien: No, yeah. Thank you very much.

[1:12:14] Andrew: Thank you.

[1:12:16] Julien: Okay. That was the network. They uh they loved the script and they want to make it into a pilot.

[1:12:30] Andrew: I'm going to LA.

[1:12:31] Julien: What?

[1:12:32] Andrew: I'm going to LA!

[1:12:33] Julien: What?

[1:12:34] Andrew: Oh my god.

[1:12:35] Julien: Oh my god!

[1:12:36] Andrew: Oh my god, is this really happening?

[1:12:38] Julien: Oh my god, I'm making me on TV!

[1:12:39] Andrew: Oh my god!

[1:12:40] Julien: Oh my god!

[1:12:40] Andrew: Oh my god, the big boy's not happening!

[1:12:43] Julien: I can't believe it!

[1:12:44] Andrew: Oh my god!

[1:12:45] Julien: Oh my god!

[1:12:46] Andrew: How am I gonna be an optimist about this?

[1:12:50] Julien: How am I gonna be an optimist about this?

[1:12:55] Andrew: Does it almost feel like nothing changed at all?

[1:13:17] Julien: So much to unpack. Holy shit. I feel like I ranked up bad karma by voting for Here Comes the Sun.

[1:13:30] Andrew: The vote has been cast.

[1:13:32] Julien: The vote has been cast. Um, Julian, what are we thinking about Pompeii?

[1:13:36] Julien: Glee Cast version by the Glee Cast.

[1:13:39] Andrew: Okay, I do remember that in high school I had this on my phone. I remember I played it for my AP bio teacher, and she was like, I didn't like that. Um, so I remember that like I liked it at the time.

[1:13:52] Julien: Um I don't know how I feel about it now. I was really distracted in watching Sam screaming into a classroom. I was like, who directed this? Why do why that was a bad choice?

[1:14:02] Andrew: Right.

[1:14:02] Julien: There are they're all their computers. There's a strange man that graduated a year ago, now screaming into a window.

[1:14:09] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:14:10] Julien: He's just really screaming. Like he's really like his neck is straining. I like Sam, calm down.

[1:14:16] Andrew: I would simply transfer if I saw that.

[1:14:19] Julien: Yep. There's so much going on here. There's just the crowds of people in the streets. Um they're looking into the camera for the first time in the series.

[1:14:31] Andrew: Okay.

[1:14:31] Julien: Yeah, let's talk about that.

[1:14:32] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:14:33] Julien: What is it? When she just like, eh, eh, oh yeah. Like Artie's fully like there's a shot of Artie that he's just like right now.

[1:14:44] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:14:45] Julien: Like it's creepy.

[1:14:47] Andrew: It feels like they're looking at me saying, this is good.

[1:14:53] Julien: Um it creeps me off.

[1:14:54] Andrew: This is what you signed up for.

[1:14:56] Julien: This is what you signed up for, bitch.

[1:14:58] Andrew: Um the absolute character assassination that is I'm going to LA. Like, no, that's not Rachel Berry.

[1:15:08] Julien: That's I'm not even gonna apologize for Rachel.

[1:15:11] Andrew: I'm not gonna be a Rachel Berry apologist for that.

[1:15:11] Julien: Yes, wait, Julian. While we're talking about it, can you can you defend that?

[1:15:17] Andrew: Um As Rachel's lawyer.

[1:15:21] Julien: I truly believe that she can do no wrong.

[1:15:25] Andrew: Um, but this, no.

[1:15:28] Julien: I'm like, if things still like I can defend pretty much anything she does because they still line up with like who she is as a character. I'm like, sure.

[1:15:37] Julien: We all talk about the crack house. I'm like, I it lines up. I'm sorry.

[1:15:42] Andrew: Yeah that's that way.

[1:15:43] Julien: But like this, no. Girl, like from season one, episode one, Broadway, Broadway, broad, like Broadway by this age, Tony by this age, married by 30. Like, I'm like, where is this in your five-year plan, Rachel? Where is a TV show?

[1:16:00] Andrew: She literally says in season three, I can't do TV. What happened to that?

[1:16:03] Julien: That's a line that she said.

[1:16:06] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:16:07] Julien: Yeah. Absolute character assassination. It doesn't make any sense. The box set that is this scene.

[1:16:15] Andrew: Um fucks me up.

[1:16:16] Julien: Wait, the boxes. Because this is like this is absolutely a studio in LA. This is not the streets of New York City.

[1:16:22] Andrew: Oh, yeah, I was gonna bring that up about Here Comes the Sun as well, because I think they use the same exact set for both of these performances.

[1:16:29] Julien: Um yeah, I'm like, this what is this? I remember I looked it up because um I retweeted some I saw this tweet a few months ago that is of the clip of uh Rachel looking up into the sky, and someone quote tweeted it and said, She's at the Montrose L station. What is she looking up at? A CBD doggy daycare?

[1:16:55] Andrew: I love.

[1:16:56] Julien: Um wait, so is this set on the Paramount lot?

[1:17:00] Andrew: I think so.

[1:17:01] Julien: I think it's like still there.

[1:17:03] Andrew: So we could feasibly go there and go.

[1:17:06] Julien: I do want to go there. You know what? I think that like Cord Overstreet went like a few months ago or something, and he was like, This is where we film Pompeii.

[1:17:14] Andrew: Like, yep.

[1:17:15] Julien: There it is, Cord. Thank you.

[1:17:16] Andrew: Thanks, Cord. When's your movie with Lindsay Lohan coming out?

[1:17:19] Julien: Very soon.

[1:17:21] Andrew: Um I am very excited. This it doesn't hit. I I I love Best Steel. I'm a very big Best Steel fan.

[1:17:27] Julien: And this song felt very random. I mean, Best Steel's lyrics don't often make sense, and I think the lyrics in this song are very hard to interpret.

[1:17:38] Andrew: Um, and then it's just Rachel's like, how am I gonna be an optimist about this?

[1:17:44] Julien: Like, that is not how the song is sung at all.

[1:17:48] Andrew: I'm like, stop.

[1:17:55] Julien: Baby girl's very optimistic.

[1:17:58] Andrew: Yeah, she's moving to Los Angeles to film a pilot for a TV show that she fucking wrote.

[1:18:02] Julien: Like Right.

[1:18:05] Andrew: So I'm like strange.

[1:18:06] Julien: Yeah, yeah.

[1:18:07] Andrew: Staged to be like a celebratory thing. Like everyone is excited and dancing and going their separate ways, but you're singing this song that I it's not meant to be happy. So why did they just that song?

[1:18:20] Julien: Um you talked a lot of crap about this song, and I will come out of the closet and let you know that I actually do like this song.

[1:18:28] Andrew: Um I circling back to what I prior said about Flash Mops.

[1:18:34] Julien: Uh I really enjoyed seeing people on the streets all dancing together.

[1:18:38] Andrew: Okay.

[1:18:39] Julien: Um, I think so just like calming to me about them just like stepping up onto taxi cabs and just really having their way with the street.

[1:18:49] Andrew: Um I just I I love that part. I I I think that I was like, I'm almost blinded by like Rachel getting the TV um job, and I'm like, I'm actually enjoying this so much that I don't care that this is character assassination.

[1:19:09] Julien: Is that terrible?

[1:19:11] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:19:13] Julien: Is it more terrible than biphobia?

[1:19:15] Andrew: Julien, I came on this podcast still ready to be on your side. I was ready to be on your side.

[1:19:20] Julien: Okay.

[1:19:21] Andrew: And then every turn.

[1:19:24] Julien: Once you get in the zoom call.

[1:19:25] Andrew: You're blinded by the glitzing glamour of Allison Todd.

[1:19:34] Julien: Um I think Brantley, who we just had on, really likes Pompeii, no?

[1:19:38] Andrew: I remember that.

[1:19:39] Julien: I think that he did say that. There's something, there is something about this song that I'm like, I don't know what it I like it.

[1:19:48] Andrew: I don't mind.

[1:19:49] Julien: I like the Britney and Mercedes walking down the steps together, twerking on each other.

[1:19:53] Julien: I think that's cute.

[1:19:54] Andrew: It was cute.

[1:19:55] Julien: That was cute.

[1:19:57] Andrew: My question is, I did watch all of season six, but I didn't watch the season finale of season five.

[1:20:05] Julien: So I don't know where Kurt and Blaine break up.

[1:20:09] Andrew: In between seasons.

[1:20:11] Julien: Oh, they don't they explain it in season six, episode one.

[1:20:14] Andrew: That's what I figured.

[1:20:15] Julien: That's stupid.

[1:20:16] Andrew: And I hate it.

[1:20:17] Julien: Was stupid.

[1:20:19] Andrew: Yep.

[1:20:19] Julien: What are you gonna do?

[1:20:21] Andrew: Because Blaine is late for the dinner reservation.

[1:20:25] Julien: Oh yes, and he's crying, and uh no, he's not crying yet, but he does start crying by the end.

[1:20:31] Andrew: And Kurt's like, I just feel like I'm yep.

[1:20:35] Julien: I think that's exactly what he said too.

[1:20:38] Andrew: Um so against Pompeii, I think again, I might be alone in my liking for Pompeii and America.

[1:20:45] Julien: So I like both of those songs.

[1:20:48] Andrew: I'm sorry I'm a lesbian.

[1:20:50] Julien: Tell me the bottom of the um we have a season three Rolo that I think we're getting Bop after Bop in this episode.

[1:21:03] Andrew: So okay, do we know what it is from this screen grab?

[1:21:07] Julien: No.

[1:21:08] Andrew: I don't know what it is from this It's I won't give up.

[1:21:11] Julien: Oh, I love this song.

[1:21:21] Andrew: When I look into you It's like watching the night sky or a beautiful sun rise, but there's so much they hold and just like them old stars.

[1:21:48] Julien: I see that you've come so far to be right where you are.

[1:22:15] Andrew: We've got a lot to learn.

[1:22:20] Julien: God knows where we know, I won't give up.

[1:22:31] Andrew: I don't wanna be someone who walks away so easily.

[1:22:35] Julien: I'm here to stay and make the difference that I can make.

[1:22:42] Andrew: And in the end, you're still my friend.

[1:22:44] Julien: At least we didn't tend for us to work.

[1:22:46] Andrew: We didn't break, we didn't burn.

[1:22:48] Julien: We had to learn how to bend without the world.

[1:22:52] Andrew: Caving in.

[1:22:53] Julien: I had to learn what I got and what I'm not and who I am.

[1:23:02] Andrew: I won't give up on us.

[1:23:07] Julien: God knows I'm tough.

[1:23:11] Andrew: No lie to a learning.

[1:23:18] Julien: God knows we're worth it.

[1:23:24] Andrew: I won't give up on us.

[1:23:29] Julien: Even if the skies give enough.

[1:23:34] Andrew: I'm giving you all my love.

[1:23:39] Julien: I'm still looking out.

[1:23:45] Andrew: Julian, what do we think?

[1:23:47] Julien: Oh, I won't give up.

[1:23:48] Julien: The Glee Cast version by the Glee Cast.

[1:23:50] Andrew: Yes, I won't give up Glee Cast by B Cast.

[1:23:53] Julien: Um Season 3 Rachel is my favorite Rachel.

[1:23:57] Julien: This is the Rachel that I will defend forever.

[1:24:01] Julien: Um I love her.

[1:24:03] Julien: I'm like, she would sing an inspirational song to herself, just so that she knows like I won't give up on us.

[1:24:09] Julien: And the us is just Rachel Berry and no one else.

[1:24:12] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:24:13] Julien: And I just I love her.

[1:24:16] Andrew: I completely agree.

[1:24:19] Julien: This is we're going to go through for our October bonus episode, spoiler alert, we're going to be going through the top our top Rachel solos.

[1:24:28] Andrew: This is gonna be top five.

[1:24:30] Julien: I'm warning you, Andrew.

[1:24:31] Andrew: I would agree.

[1:24:32] Andrew: I think it's in the top ten for me.

[1:24:33] Julien: I need to look at my list.

[1:24:35] Andrew: But um so good.

[1:24:37] Julien: It's really great, but again, the context.

[1:24:41] Andrew: I hate it.

[1:24:43] Julien: She literally calls up Whoopi Goldberg right after this number and is like, baby girl, have you been getting my messages?

[1:24:49] Julien: I really want to get into this school.

[1:24:51] Andrew: And she's like, leave this woman alone.

[1:24:54] Julien: Leave Whoopi alone.

[1:24:56] Andrew: Leave Whoopi alone.

[1:24:59] Julien: And the fact that Whoopi bends over backwards to like go to the Nationals performance.

[1:25:03] Andrew: I'm like, what?

[1:25:05] Julien: I don't know.

[1:25:06] Julien: It's just like I don't I wish she would just give up.

[1:25:10] Andrew: Just give up, Rachel.

[1:25:12] Julien: I think for once.

[1:25:13] Andrew: I think it's a beautiful song.

[1:25:14] Julien: Again, MP3, which dream, and I have.

[1:25:17] Julien: Um, but like this simply is a Rachel ballad to a university.

[1:25:24] Andrew: And I like don't I don't know if I ship Riata, you know what I mean?

[1:25:31] Julien: Riata?

[1:25:32] Andrew: Okay.

[1:25:33] Julien: Okay.

[1:25:34] Andrew: Riot.

[1:25:34] Julien: Um, I'm a big Riata shipper.

[1:25:38] Julien: I love this song.

[1:25:39] Julien: I love the Jason Mraz like kind of twang that she's kind of putting on it.

[1:25:44] Julien: Um, I love the sound of her voice in this.

[1:25:47] Julien: This is so good.

[1:25:50] Julien: And uh she shouldn't give up on her dreams.

[1:25:53] Julien: She should chase them and knock down whoever's in her path.

[1:25:56] Andrew: I'm not saying give up on like your dream.

[1:26:00] Julien: Like we can get into Niata eventually, Rachel.

[1:26:03] Andrew: Right.

[1:26:03] Julien: But like there are like some stepping stones that we're like overlooking.

[1:26:07] Julien: Like community theater, which I don't think that she really ever really fully um considered.

[1:26:13] Andrew: Embraces.

[1:26:14] Julien: I'm like, okay, that would have been like a fun little plot line.

[1:26:16] Julien: It's like she doesn't get into Niata, but she does do like an Ohio production of I don't know, whatever.

[1:26:23] Andrew: Sound of music, I don't know.

[1:26:25] Julien: I've always said that.

[1:26:25] Andrew: I've always said that.

[1:26:26] Julien: I've always said that I'm kidding, I've never always said that.

[1:26:30] Julien: But I do think that.

[1:26:31] Julien: I think it would be fun if instead of season four getting new characters, if it followed the entire Glee Club in a more realistic sense.

[1:26:40] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:26:41] Julien: Like nobody ever made it to Broadway, nobody ever became a recording artist, but they're in the church choir for a long time.

[1:26:48] Andrew: Right.

[1:26:48] Julien: And are a part of their community, and they do community theater, and Santana can still have yeastist stat, because that's hilarious.

[1:26:57] Andrew: Um but and I totally agree with that, but that's not Rachel Berry, you know?

[1:27:03] Julien: That's a character assassination in itself that she's not going to call up Whoopi Goldberg so many times that it annoys Whoopi.

[1:27:10] Andrew: Sure.

[1:27:11] Julien: But it's like also looking at Pompeii versus I Won't Give Up.

[1:27:14] Andrew: It's like it's all right there.

[1:27:16] Julien: It's like she gets she doesn't give up.

[1:27:18] Julien: She gets into Niata, then she leaves Niata and Broadway to go to a TV show.

[1:27:24] Andrew: Yeah, that's why I don't like Pompeii.

[1:27:27] Julien: Julian, can you defend what Rachel's doing here?

[1:27:34] Andrew: Like in I Won't Give Up.

[1:27:35] Julien: Harassing a woman that works for university.

[1:27:39] Julien: Um, so Rachel is fictional.

[1:27:43] Andrew: And so yes, I can.

[1:27:44] Julien: I feel like if she was a real person, I'd be like, don't harass university professionals, especially if they're Ruby Goldberg.

[1:27:51] Andrew: But luckily, I don't have to apply my real world morals to her.

[1:27:55] Julien: And I'm like, this is in line with who Rachel is.

[1:27:59] Julien: Like, I think that her choking was a really interesting choice.

[1:28:02] Julien: Like, you know, everyone's like, Rachel, your problem's like, you want things too much.

[1:28:06] Julien: And so she wants this too so much that she like chokes in a song that like she can sing in her sleep, and then it's like, okay, I need to get back to Rachel.

[1:28:06] Julien: I need to get back to who I am, and that is just constantly pestering people until they give me what I want.

[1:28:19] Andrew: I like yes.

[1:28:20] Julien: I do think I would have liked it if Whoopi had just kept saying no, or Carmen Tibet.

[1:28:25] Andrew: I don't need to call it Ruby Goldberg every time.

[1:28:27] Julien: But I would have liked it if Carmen kept saying no, and then Rachel went to New York anyway, and then like did something else in New York, and then that's how she got like her start.

[1:28:39] Julien: Um but I don't know, Glee had this really weird moralistic, like you must go to college thing going on.

[1:28:47] Andrew: Um, but like this we can keep.

[1:28:52] Julien: I like this.

[1:28:53] Andrew: Okay.

[1:28:53] Julien: Is this what you're voting for?

[1:28:55] Andrew: This is what I'm voting for.

[1:28:57] Julien: Yeah, I'm also voting for this.

[1:28:59] Andrew: I figured.

[1:29:01] Julien: Uh I mean, I'll also vote for I Won't Give Up.

[1:29:04] Andrew: I think it's a better song than Pompeii.

[1:29:06] Julien: Okay.

[1:29:07] Andrew: Okay.

[1:29:07] Julien: There's that.

[1:29:08] Andrew: Fine.

[1:29:09] Julien: Yeah.

[1:29:09] Andrew: That's it.

[1:29:10] Julien: Okay.

[1:29:12] Andrew: Final song of the episode from me.

[1:29:20] Julien: Excited for this.

[1:29:22] Andrew: I'm very excited for this.

[1:29:24] Julien: Say a little prayer.

[1:29:26] Andrew: No, better.

[1:29:28] Julien: Okay.

[1:29:31] Andrew: There are worse things I could do than go with a boy or two.

[1:29:40] Julien: Even though the neighborhood thinks I'm trashy and no good.

[1:29:46] Andrew: I suppose it could be true.

[1:29:50] Julien: But there are worse things I could do.

[1:29:54] Andrew: I could flirt with older guys.

[1:30:02] Julien: Smile at them and bat my eye.

[1:30:09] Andrew: Press against them when we dance.

[1:30:12] Julien: Make them think they stand a chance.

[1:30:16] Andrew: Then refuse to see it through.

[1:30:19] Julien: That's a thing I'd never do.

[1:30:23] Andrew: I could stay home every night.

[1:30:30] Julien: Wait around for Mr.

[1:30:37] Andrew: Take cold showers every day and throw my life away on a dream that woke up true.

[1:30:49] Julien: I could hurt someone like me out of spite or jealousy.

[1:31:04] Andrew: I don't steal.

[1:31:06] Julien: And I don't lie, but I can feel and I can cry a fact out that you never knew.

[1:31:26] Andrew: That's the worst thing I could do.

[1:31:40] Julien: There are worse things I could do.

[1:31:42] Andrew: Naya, unique, and Kate Hudson.

[1:31:46] Julien: Really?

[1:31:47] Andrew: All on the track.

[1:31:48] Julien: Revolutionary.

[1:31:49] Andrew: And I think popular opinion upon the Gleeks is that Kate Hudson shouldn't be in this track.

[1:31:55] Julien: Yes.

[1:31:55] Andrew: I don't mind it.

[1:31:56] Julien: I think plot's got a plot.

[1:31:59] Andrew: Whatever.

[1:31:59] Julien: Yeah, plot's gonna plot.

[1:32:01] Andrew: Um, I think that, yeah, it should have been a Santique duet.

[1:32:05] Julien: Um I think that Alex Newell also doesn't get enough in this song.

[1:32:10] Julien: Um, the I don't steal, I don't lie, lying is just itches my brain.

[1:32:17] Andrew: Kiss.

[1:32:19] Julien: And I think we haven't obviously pulled what it's this song is going to be against, but I'm asking of both of you to please show up in solidarity with me in voting for a Santana musical performance for once.

[1:32:35] Andrew: I love this number.

[1:32:37] Julien: I'm delighted that.

[1:32:38] Andrew: Here comes the sun!

[1:32:39] Julien: No, I'm talking about musical theater.

[1:32:42] Andrew: Musical theater because we got America, and now there are worse things I could do.

[1:32:47] Julien: We're getting Santana Musical Theater in the same episode.

[1:32:50] Andrew: I just want this to go through.

[1:32:52] Julien: And I do think, and I'll say it, I think that this is better than America.

[1:32:56] Andrew: Yes.

[1:32:57] Julien: I agree.

[1:32:58] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:32:59] Julien: This is way better than America.

[1:33:01] Andrew: Yes.

[1:33:02] Julien: What are you thinking, Julian?

[1:33:03] Julien: I'm so literally one of the things I had written down is like there are worse things I could do.

[1:33:08] Julien: I'm like, wow, I'm so excited that it happened. And we saw also I ship Rachel and Cassie, but that is a different. Just she was there. So I would announce that. Um this is what I mean by problematic ships are okay, but boring ships are not. Um but back to the matter at hand. Like I love, I mean, everyone's voices sound beautiful. I agree that Kate Hudson doesn't really need to be here, but they're gonna say no to watching Kate Hudson. Um and like the Ratana conversation right before this, where Britney's like, it used to be our date night, and like it's okay, but it's still sad, is so and then Santana like taps into the emotion for the song. I'm like, oh wow.

[1:33:55] Andrew: Yeah, I always think that that conversation that Brittany has with Santana, like is so Britannia Shipper, obviously, but I feel like Britt and Brittany, stop it.

[1:34:06] Julien: Santana's about to go perform.

[1:34:07] Andrew: Yeah, master manipulator of British. Brittany's like, well, like maybe think of something sad, like Fridays when we used to have our day. Like us, remember how we're broken up? Like Brittany.

[1:34:20] Julien: Fuck off.

[1:34:22] Andrew: Leave her alone. But it was like, like, go break a leg, Santana. I don't know.

[1:34:27] Julien: Yeah, you look so beautiful and your pink lipstick.

[1:34:29] Andrew: Right, she does. She is she does look great. Um, love this. Also, did we catch the guy in the audience that was staring at Unique as Unique is walking down the steps?

[1:34:45] Julien: Really?

[1:34:47] Andrew: An icon. The director really didn't catch that line.

[1:34:50] Julien: Yep. They were like, we don't care. Put it in.

[1:34:52] Andrew: We'll fix it in post, and then they never fixed it in post. They just left it in the episode.

[1:34:57] Julien: A deep fake of that guy just looking at the mannequins. Because it's supposed to be it's like supposed to be like Unique at daydreaming that they're performing. And that guy's just part of the reality.

[1:35:12] Andrew: Um yeah, I love this. It's great. I'm scared for what it's against. Um, any further notes?

[1:35:20] Julien: As long as you don't pull a Rachel solo, I can't think of anything I would vote for over this.

[1:35:27] Andrew: Nothing.

[1:35:28] Julien: It is not a Rachel solo.

[1:35:30] Andrew: I feel good about what you said you asked for us to do. I feel like you'll follow the directions.

[1:35:41] Julien: We know what it's gonna be.

[1:35:44] Andrew: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Gonna find my baby, gonna hold it, I gonna grab some afternoon delight.

[1:35:53] Julien: My motto's always been when it's right, it's right.

[1:35:56] Andrew: Why wait until the middle of a cold dark night?

[1:36:00] Julien: Well, everything's a little clearer in the light of day.

[1:36:06] Andrew: And we know the night is always gonna be here anyway.

[1:36:26] Julien: Sky rockets in flight afternoon.

[1:36:43] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:36:43] Julien: Yeah.

[1:36:44] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:36:45] Julien: And I do like it.

[1:36:46] Andrew: I do like it actually.

[1:36:48] Julien: Yeah.

[1:36:49] Andrew: Sleeper hit.

[1:36:50] Julien: Sleeper hit.

[1:36:51] Andrew: We don't talk about this.

[1:36:52] Julien: They don't teach this in schools.

[1:36:54] Andrew: Um, Julien.

[1:36:56] Julien: Wish they did.

[1:36:56] Andrew: Wish they did. Oh, your senators. Julien, what are we thinking about Afternoon Delight?

[1:37:03] Julien: Rachel is so funny. She's like really overperforming. Like, big smile, big hands. We're doing the Mariah hand, but we're barely doing a run. Like, like putting the finger over her ear and then hitting all the notes with the other hand. I love it.

[1:37:22] Andrew: I love her so much.

[1:37:20] Julien: It's so funny.

[1:37:22] Andrew: I love her so much.

[1:37:24] Julien: I just so funny. This hits the point on the quiz that you made, Julien, about Emma sh the hot take that Emma should have been canonically asexual.

[1:37:36] Andrew: We both had a reaction to it.

[1:37:38] Julien: Love that take. We love that.

[1:37:41] Andrew: And this plays into it.

[1:37:44] Julien: They could have explored it a little bit more, maybe specifically in this episode. There are a lot of weird implications about like the way her sexuality plays out.

[1:37:54] Andrew: Like Will sings a Coldplay song at her about how he's gonna fix her, and then he does.

[1:37:59] Julien: It's like, what are we telling women? You just wait for your like weird, weepy like boyfriend to like win a competition, and then suddenly you'll be ready to have sex.

[1:38:10] Andrew: I like, I just don't weird.

[1:38:13] Julien: If she wasn't gonna fuck John Stamos, I really think that she should have just been asexual.

[1:38:18] Andrew: Yep.

[1:38:19] Julien: That's a very good point.

[1:38:21] Andrew: Yes.

[1:38:22] Julien: Yeah, I don't know, but I completely agree. I I'm excited to watch Glee through that lens with Emma being canonically asexual. I think that makes so much sense.

[1:38:30] Andrew: Um Afternoon Delight.

[1:38:34] Julien: I I'm going through the Glistener submission, the song opinion form, because I remember there were so many people that that really came out.

[1:38:43] Andrew: Sleeper hit for Sleeper Hit.

[1:38:45] Julien: Afternoon Delight. Um, this really cracks me up and it's pretty good. Honestly, I like it. Um the fact that they're so genuine that this performance makes it so so good.

[1:38:56] Andrew: My entire being cringe just reading this.

[1:38:59] Julien: Um Anchorman version is still my favorite, but I still but I love the ironing of the song and what Emma assumed the song to be about, but was also like confused about how she didn't see the innuendo.

[1:39:10] Andrew: I didn't.

[1:39:11] Julien: I had this song on a CD. My mom had this song on a 45.

[1:39:15] Andrew: Glee Cast version of No, no, no, the original version.

[1:39:21] Julien: She had it, this was the f one of the first songs she ever owned on iTunes because she had it as a 45 growing up, and I put and I would make CDs of whatever songs we had on iTunes just to because I was like, fuck it, I want to make a CD.

[1:39:35] Andrew: And this song was on it, and I have a mental ill image of myself in my childhood bedroom on my trundle bed.

[1:39:42] Julien: Mm-hmm, jumping around dancing to this song. And I never got the innuendo.

[1:39:48] Andrew: So you're equating Emma to myself.

[1:39:52] Julien: To a child.

[1:39:54] Andrew: To myself. Because I did go to Perkins later, and they did have a slice of pie that was called Afternoon Delight.

[1:40:00] Julien: So I was like, they must be talking about this.

[1:40:03] Andrew: Right.

[1:40:03] Julien: That would add. And I never got the innuendo until this episode of Glee.

[1:40:08] Andrew: Yeah, that adds up.

[1:40:09] Julien: Yeah.

[1:40:10] Andrew: For your culture.

[1:40:11] Julien: Yeah.

[1:40:15] Andrew: Uh I still really like it.

[1:40:18] Julien: I think it's a beautiful MP3.

[1:40:20] Andrew: I think that, you know, how often do we get Diana Agron, Shame and Mays on one track?

[1:40:25] Julien: It's true.

[1:40:27] Andrew: Um, I just I think it's great. However, I think the vote is still very obvious.

[1:40:33] Julien: Yes.

[1:40:34] Andrew: Yes.

[1:40:35] Julien: Yeah.

[1:40:36] Andrew: There are worse things I could do, and that would be to vote for Afternoon Delight, which I'm not going to do.

[1:40:41] Julien: Yeah.

[1:40:42] Andrew: Julien, you're with us?

[1:40:44] Julien: I am with you.

[1:40:45] Andrew: Yes.

[1:40:46] Julien: Great.

[1:40:47] Andrew: Okay, amazing. 100%.

[1:40:48] Julien: 100%.

[1:40:49] Andrew: To wrap up, I have Here Comes the Sun and I No wait.

[1:40:54] Julien: No, you don't.

[1:40:55] Andrew: No, I don't. I don't know what I'm doing.

[1:40:57] Julien: Um, I have America and Pompeii staying behind, and there are worse things I could do going ahead on the Glacket.

[1:41:05] Andrew: Okay, and I have Here Comes the Sun and I Won't Give Up going through an Afternoon Delight staying behind.

[1:41:13] Julien: Very good episode for songs.

[1:41:14] Andrew: Very good episode.

[1:41:15] Julien: Thank you so much for being with us.

[1:41:18] Andrew: I'm upset.

[1:41:19] Julien: Thank you.

[1:41:20] Andrew: I was really worried that we were just gonna pull flops.

[1:41:24] Julien: So I'm really flop after flop after flop after flop.

[1:41:28] Andrew: Um, Julien, I'm gonna ask you the age old question that we ask all of our listeners if Glee was still on in the year of our glory almighty, Ryan Murphy. Uh what what would they sing?

[1:41:37] Julien: Okay, so I've got a couple. Um, I think it's really obvious that they would be doing Olivia Vigo, everyone has said, but I really want Rachel to be screaming good for you at Finn's face, like she was doing in Get Sea Hell.

[1:41:54] Andrew: I really think that would be amusing.

[1:41:56] Julien: Um I also think they would do This Is Me from The Greatest Showman, and we would all just be like, this is it would just be very cheesy.

[1:42:06] Andrew: Who do you think would sing This Is Me?

[1:42:08] Julien: I think it would be an ensemble number, but they would give all the like the big notes to Mercedes.

[1:42:13] Andrew: Right.

[1:42:13] Julien: Like it would be a competition song.

[1:42:15] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:42:16] Julien: Maybe, yeah.

[1:42:17] Andrew: Um I don't know what the storyline this would be in, but I think they would do that like I hope he cheats song.

[1:42:26] Julien: I feel like someone would do that.

[1:42:28] Andrew: I'm thinking maybe like Quinn, like someone.

[1:42:33] Julien: I don't know.

[1:42:34] Andrew: I don't know.

[1:42:35] Julien: I love that song.

[1:42:36] Andrew: Ugh.

[1:42:37] Julien: Yeah.

[1:42:37] Andrew: I just but there's a lot of cheating that goes on in Glee, and so I think someone would do it.

[1:42:41] Julien: I know the fact that they didn't sing before he cheats, I mean it's right there.

[1:42:45] Andrew: Yeah, we would just write it before he cheats there.

[1:42:48] Julien: I hope he cheats.

[1:42:49] Andrew: All of the cheating songs.

[1:42:51] Julien: I also think they would do like run away with me, like the Carly Rae Jepsen song is like an end of episode group number.

[1:42:57] Andrew: Okay.

[1:42:58] Julien: Okay.

[1:42:59] Andrew: Yes.

[1:42:59] Julien: Like Pompeii.

[1:43:00] Andrew: A la Pompeii.

[1:43:02] Julien: Yes.

[1:43:05] Andrew: And then I also think that I really want Sue to do look what you made me do, because I just think it would be funny.

[1:43:12] Julien: This is the reputation episode of Album October.

[1:43:15] Andrew: So that is perfect.

[1:43:17] Julien: Because I do, I mean, we I think at the end I imply that Sue is in that number in my episode as well.

[1:43:24] Andrew: Great.

[1:43:25] Julien: Glad we so perfect.

[1:43:27] Andrew: On the same page.

[1:43:28] Julien: And then I think they would sing a Lizzo song at some point, but they would find a way to be offensive about it.

[1:43:34] Andrew: Yes.

[1:43:34] Julien: I don't know how, but I think they would.

[1:43:36] Andrew: Um and then I think that Mercedes should do like a SZA song, like Drew Barrymore.

[1:43:43] Julien: Maybe.

[1:43:44] Andrew: I just really love SZA and I believe Amber Riley could sing anything, so I think she could do that.

[1:43:49] Julien: Oh I love that.

[1:43:50] Andrew: And then I like the Kiss Me More by like SZA and Doja Cat.

[1:43:55] Julien: I think that could be like a I have it written a Super Channel duet, but now I'm thinking it's a Mercedes Santana duet.

[1:44:01] Andrew: But maybe you're pretending to do that.

[1:44:04] Julien: I would be okay with either.

[1:44:06] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:44:07] Julien: Yeah.

[1:44:08] Andrew: Um Julien, thank you so much for being our Gleek this week.

[1:44:11] Julien: Truly obsessed.

[1:44:12] Andrew: You came with a hot takes. What more can we ask?

[1:44:15] Julien: Um Julianne, where can all of the Glisteners find your social Gladia? Anything that you want to promote.

[1:44:21] Julien: Um okay. If you want to hear me talk about Glee more, I was on an episode of Glee on the Rocks called Voices of Glee, where they had all their like listeners of color, like not all, but like a couple of us come on and talk about things.

[1:44:33] Andrew: So my god.

[1:44:35] Julien: Hear me on that. You can follow me on Twitter at Kermit Femme underscore.

[1:44:36] Andrew: Um you can follow me on Instagram at Divine Them Them Spell T-H-E-M-M-E.

[1:44:49] Julien: Um it's private, but I'll probably accept. And then you can follow me on Tumblr at Kermit dash the dash femme.

[1:44:58] Andrew: Like the the dash.

[1:45:01] Julien: Um yeah, so my girlfriend and I are starting a Degrassi podcast. Hopefully soon.

[1:45:07] Andrew: Oh my god.

[1:45:09] Julien: That will be happening.

[1:45:10] Andrew: So you can follow my socials, and I'll probably announce when that starts.

[1:45:15] Julien: Oh my god. I'm so obsessed. That's gonna be so much fun.

[1:45:19] Andrew: That's awesome.

[1:45:21] Julien: Thank you so much, Julian. This has truly been another wild ride.

[1:45:25] Andrew: It always is.

[1:45:27] Julien: And I do love talking to people that know the Glacket even more deeply than we do.

[1:45:33] Andrew: And I'm obsessed. Thank you so much for joining us.

[1:45:36] Julien: Thank you for having me.

[1:45:37] Andrew: Um, of course. To end the episode, we're gonna say bye in our most annoying voices after one.

[1:45:45] Julien: Three, two, one.

[1:45:48] Both: Bye!

[1:45:49] Andrew: Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Gleek of the Week podcast. Be sure to subscribe to us on Apple Music, Spotify, and leave us a five star review.

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[1:46:24] Both: GOOOOOOO!