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[0:00] Andrew: We've got a mission to find the best song that's ever been on Glee.

[0:09] Andrew: There's no rhyme or reason to it, so don't get mad at me.

[0:18] Andrew: Glacket by Glacket, we'll rank everyone to see which song will move closer to spot number one.

[0:26] Andrew: Gleek of the Week, Gleek, Gleek, Gleek of the Week. It's Gleek, Gleek of the Week.

[0:35] Andrew: So last week I was joined by the Jenna Ushkowitz. This week I'm joined by two Jenna Ushkowitzes.

[0:41] Allison: Hey!

[0:42] Ian: Hi!

[0:43] Allison: Hey, Jennas! How are you?

[0:46] Andrew: I'm so good. How are you, Jenna?

[0:49] Allison: I'm great, Jenna. Thank you for asking.

[0:51] Andrew: Thank you, Jenna. That's so sweet. Two Jennas, one Andrew.

[0:57] Ian: Oh, and we can already- that's already titled F. First five seconds.

[1:03] Andrew: And there we go, we already locked it in. I don't need to worry about that.

[1:08] Andrew: Okay. No, but really, for seriousness, I am joined by- Let's be serious, please.

[1:15] Andrew: Allison Ushkowitz. Please, everybody calm the fuck down. And Ian Ushkowitz.

[1:19] Ian: Ian Ushkowitz, Allison Ushkowitz, we're very happy to be here. Thank you so much.

[1:24] Andrew: So, whew. I gotta calm down after that.

[1:34] Andrew: Whoa, Savannah, slow down.

[1:36] Allison: Andrew, is this the first, like, extended amount of time we spent together since the last party in 2024?

[1:44] Ian: I was trying to think. We like- I think so. I don't think we've been on a podcast together.

[1:49] Allison: We haven't been on an episode together. This is the first.

[1:51] Andrew: That's so cute and sweet.

[1:53] Allison: I wanted to set you guys up.

[1:55] Andrew: So good to see you.

[1:57] Ian: Oh my goodness, you've been so long.

[1:59] Allison: I'm playing matchmaker.

[2:02] Ian: Wow, finally. I've been pestering Andrew for years.

[2:07] Allison: Except maybe for that Allison girl. I think she could change me.

[2:10] Ian: She's so sexy.

[2:13] Allison: Ugh.

[2:15] Ian: Ugh.

[2:17] Allison: Wow.

[2:19] Ian: I love your glee opinions.

[2:22] Allison: Ugh.

[2:24] Ian: Yeah.

[2:26] Andrew: Big time.

[2:28] Andrew: I'm so happy to see you both. This has already been a blast.

[2:33] Andrew: So I'm just gonna go ahead and log off.

[2:35] Andrew: So that's it. See you next week.

[2:37] Andrew: Just end on a high note.

[2:39] Andrew: Let's not. Let's not even continue.

[2:42] Andrew: We're done.

[2:44] Andrew: Where do I go from here? I haven't done this in so long.

[2:46] Andrew: Like, okay, wait.

[2:48] Andrew: I ask now.

[2:50] Andrew: Glacket opinions?

[2:52] Allison: What do I do now?

[2:54] Ian: If you want to, babe. It's up to you.

[2:56] Ian: It's your point. You can do whatever you want.

[2:58] Allison: I was here not too long ago.

[3:01] Allison: So there haven't been too many episodes since my last brain dump of opinions.

[3:08] Allison: I will say, just...

[3:10] Allison: I want to know the specifics of the Jessie's Girl and You Keep Me Hanging On.

[3:16] Ian: Can you...

[3:18] Ian: Paint a picture.

[3:20] Ian: Can you paint a picture for me of who voted for what explicitly?

[3:22] Allison: Explicitly.

[3:24] Ian: I'll use explicit language.

[3:26] Ian: Use explicit language and really walk me through where that went.

[3:30] Allison: So you already know what I fucking voted for.

[3:32] Ian: Time to log off.

[3:34] Allison: I fucking voted for the fucking goddamn bitch, Cuolo.

[3:38] Ian: Wow.

[3:40] Ian: Wow.

[3:42] Allison: And then Maggie from Skip or Scream.

[3:44] Ian: That goddamn bitch.

[3:46] Allison: I'm familiar.

[3:48] Ian: I'm familiar with her.

[3:52] Ian: What did she do?

[3:54] Ian: Ian has a concerned face like, don't talk about Maggie like that.

[3:56] Allison: I think that Maggie would appreciate us talking.

[3:58] Ian: Maggie loves this.

[4:00] Allison: Maggie loves this.

[4:03] Allison: She voted for Jessie's...

[4:05] Ian: Cuolo.

[4:07] Allison: No.

[4:09] Ian: Oh, thank fucking God.

[4:11] Allison: Wait.

[4:13] Allison: I was about to walk on over to her house and have a couple of words with her.

[4:15] Ian: I think that...

[4:17] Ian: You know, it's been a few weeks.

[4:19] Allison: Wait, I don't actually recall.

[4:21] Allison: One of them voted for the Cuolo.

[4:23] Ian: Wait, what do you remember, Jenna?

[4:25] Allison: I recall that Maggie voted for Jessie's Girl.

[4:27] Ian: And I might be wrong, but that is how I remember it.

[4:29] Ian: And Cassie voted for...

[4:31] Allison: Okay.

[4:33] Allison: Because Maggie is a friend of the podcast's longtime listener, yes?

[4:35] Ian: Yes.

[4:37] Allison: Friend of the podcast's longtime listener.

[4:39] Ian: I'm not, but I'm pretty sure.

[4:41] Allison: Yes, I'm pretty sure.

[4:43] Allison: And Maggie, if I'm wrong, please correct me.

[4:45] Ian: I'm pretty sure that Maggie voted for Jessie's Girl.

[4:47] Allison: She's going to fuck you up.

[4:49] Ian: She's in the comments, she's like, this fucking liar.

[4:51] Allison: Dragging my name through the mud.

[4:53] Ian: Saying stuff that is not true.

[4:55] Allison: No, I hope to God that Maggie voted for Jessie's Girl.

[4:57] Allison: Because I mean,

[5:00] Allison: we have a follow problem on this podcast.

[5:02] Ian: No more follows.

[5:04] Allison: No more follows?

[5:06] Ian: Oh God.

[5:08] Ian: No more follows.

[5:10] Ian: Open the box.

[5:12] Ian: It's empty.

[5:14] Allison: Oh.

[5:16] Allison: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[5:18] Allison: We got to go back in time.

[5:20] Allison: I'm going to have to go wrinkle in time in this fucking bitch.

[5:22] Ian: No, no.

[5:24] Ian: Because what the fuck just fucking happened?

[5:26] Ian: Wait, can you, on a real note,

[5:28] Ian: I really don't understand Jessie.

[5:30] Ian: Jessie's Girl, to me,

[5:32] Ian: the conversation that we had around it

[5:34] Ian: was that it's Finn's

[5:36] Ian: drop, in a sense. You would agree?

[5:38] Allison: Yes.

[5:40] Allison: That's his title song.

[5:42] Ian: He is the titular Jessie's Girl.

[5:44] Allison: Yes.

[5:46] Ian: He is Jessie's Girl.

[5:48] Ian: He will be playing the titular role.

[5:50] Allison: But I don't really,

[5:52] Allison: it doesn't really mean,

[5:54] Allison: I like other follows much more.

[5:57] Ian: I do too.

[5:59] Ian: I agree with you, but it was the fact that it was

[6:01] Ian: the last one standing

[6:03] Ian: that made me

[6:05] Ian: need it.

[6:07] Ian: At least until round 17.

[6:09] Allison: At least until,

[6:11] Allison: so that's like, you are winning

[6:13] Allison: so many times over.

[6:15] Ian: So I need him to win

[6:17] Ian: 13 more times.

[6:19] Ian: It's like, oh, Jessie's Girl won the Glocken

[6:21] Ian: again for the 15th time.

[6:23] Allison: Again. Weird.

[6:25] Ian: I opened this Pandora's box and redid it again

[6:27] Ian: and it's still one.

[6:29] Allison: Wait, what is your favorite follow? I forget.

[6:31] Ian: Oh, that's a really

[6:33] Ian: good question. Without looking at a list,

[6:35] Ian: right now,

[6:37] Ian: my favorite follow is

[6:39] Allison: Hello, I love you.

[6:41] Ian: Girl, that's my answer!

[6:43] Allison: So good!

[6:45] Ian: Playing basketball?

[6:47] Allison: Yeah, and all the

[6:49] Allison: Cheerios dropping it low in the hallway.

[6:51] Ian: God, I love that number.

[6:54] Ian: Well, we were just

[6:56] Ian: playing, I don't know if you guys play

[6:58] Ian: Harmonies.

[7:00] Ian: Harmonies is like the

[7:02] Ian: musician version

[7:04] Ian: of Connections.

[7:06] Allison: Okay.

[7:08] Ian: Every day, it's like a music

[7:10] Ian: themed Connections, so the categories will be

[7:12] Ian: songs that came out in the 90s.

[7:14] Ian: Artists that have

[7:16] Ian: song titles that start

[7:18] Ian: with X or something.

[7:20] Ian: And I really thought today

[7:22] Ian: Oh, I think the category is

[7:24] Ian: people with songs

[7:26] Ian: that have Hello in the title.

[7:28] Ian: Because it was Ringo Starr,

[7:30] Ian: Lionel Richie,

[7:32] Ian: and so I was like,

[7:34] Ian: I know this one!

[7:36] Ian: Hello!

[7:38] Ian: I got this one! Hello!

[7:40] Ian: And it wasn't.

[7:42] Ian: So, I've been thinking

[7:44] Ian: about Hello a lot today, personally.

[7:46] Ian: So, I think I'm gonna say

[7:48] Ian: that's my favorite follow at

[7:50] Ian: this current given time. Ask me in

[7:52] Ian: 20 minutes, it might be different.

[7:54] Allison: Set an alarm.

[7:56] Ian: I do like

[7:58] Ian: I do like She's Not There

[8:00] Ian: She's Not There is a sleeper hit.

[8:02] Allison: Yes. That one's fun.

[8:04] Ian: Really good.

[8:06] Ian: I mean, Losing My Religion

[8:08] Ian: also very fun.

[8:10] Allison: Also a good one. Adjust The Way You Are

[8:12] Allison: I think might be my favorite.

[8:14] Ian: It's cute. Yeah.

[8:16] Ian: Contextual. Yeah.

[8:18] Ian: Wanna kiss Kurt?

[8:20] Allison: I do hear what you said, Andrew,

[8:22] Allison: where you were like,

[8:24] Allison: you feel that Finn shines more

[8:26] Allison: in a group or duet setting.

[8:28] Ian: And I do agree with that,

[8:30] Ian: where my favorite Finn numbers

[8:32] Ian: also have a co-feature on them.

[8:36] Allison: It is sad that he's

[8:38] Allison: got no solos left, though.

[8:40] Ian: Borderline, Open Your Heart, I mean.

[8:42] Allison: Ooh.

[8:44] Ian: Faithfully is probably my favorite Finn

[8:46] Ian: number in the whole show.

[8:48] Allison: I think Faithfully is going to get in the furthest.

[8:50] Ian: Faithfully is

[8:52] maybe my favorite duet, but

[8:54] Ian: my favorite duet is maybe also River Deep,

[8:56] Ian: Mountain High. It's between the two of them.

[8:58] Allison: But like, damn, Faithfully is good.

[9:00] Ian: Hate to pit two beautiful women against each other.

[9:02] Allison: Really gorgeous girls.

[9:04] Ian: And that's the name of the game.

[9:06] Andrew: Jenna,

[9:08] Andrew: do you have anything that you would like to say about

[9:10] Andrew: Glocky competitions?

[9:12] Allison: I was going to bring up

[9:14] Allison: the same one. However, I do like,

[9:16] Allison: sorry, I love

[9:18] Allison: Finn Hudson, and I'm a big Finn Hudson defender,

[9:20] Allison: specifically because the fandom

[9:22] Allison: does not care for Finn Hudson very much.

[9:24] Ian: No, you're losing the charge

[9:26] Ian: against them, though.

[9:28] Allison: I feel like it's my calling that I have to be like,

[9:30] Allison: weren't you ever a 15-year-old and

[9:32] Allison: said and did stupid shit?

[9:34] Ian: Exactly.

[9:36] Ian: Check my tweets,

[9:38] Ian: okay?

[9:40] Allison: But,

[9:44] Allison: and so like, I do

[9:46] mourn the loss of Finn's solos,

[9:48] Allison: and I do really love Jessie's Girl,

[9:50] Allison: and I do think that it's his drop, it's his iconic number.

[9:52] Allison: I think I would have

[9:54] also voted for Keep Me Hanging On, though.

[9:56] Ian: The production value.

[9:58] Ian: That song rules!

[10:00] Ian: It's so good.

[10:02] Allison: What other

[10:06] Allison: quolos do we have?

[10:08] Ian: We have a lot. She's eating good.

[10:10] Ian: The fans love Quinn.

[10:12] Ian: He can tell I ain't missing

[10:14] Ian: no meals. She is out here.

[10:18] Ian: Quinn's coming in here

[10:20] Ian: large as hell.

[10:24] Ian: She has

[10:26] Ian: Never Can Say Goodbye.

[10:28] Ian: She has...

[10:30] Ian: It's a man's man's man's world

[10:32] Ian: in round four as well.

[10:34] Ian: She has

[10:36] Ian: You Keep Me Hanging On,

[10:38] Ian: and I Say A Little Prayer

[10:40] Ian: is still on the table.

[10:42] Allison: That's fun.

[10:44] Ian: The only two to actually die are Come See About Me

[10:46] Ian: and Papa Don't Preach.

[10:48] Allison: That's crazy.

[10:50] Ian: Dang.

[10:52] Ian: Yeah.

[10:54] Ian: But I think I agree with

[10:56] Ian: Do I agree with everything?

[10:58] Ian: I maybe do agree with everything that's happened on the Glocket.

[11:00] Allison: Except

[11:02] Allison: the reason that I, Jenna Ushkowitz,

[11:04] Allison: came back

[11:06] Allison: for two episodes

[11:08] Allison: in a row is because

[11:10] Allison: I wanted to say,

[11:12] Allison: fuck Tina Cohen Chang's vote.

[11:14] Allison: I, Jenna Ushkowitz, should have gotten two votes

[11:16] Allison: because I, Dream to Dream,

[11:18] Allison: should have won over

[11:20] Allison: It's Not Right But It's Okay.

[11:22] Ian: Okay, wait.

[11:24] Ian: Other Jenna, Allison

[11:26] Ian: Ushkowitz,

[11:28] Ian: you have not listened to the Jenna episode,

[11:30] Ian: yes?

[11:32] Allison: No, but I did predict

[11:34] Allison: her vote.

[11:36] Ian: Wait, so where do you stand

[11:38] Ian: on that competition? It's Not Right But It's Okay

[11:40] Ian: versus Dream to Little Dream?

[11:42] Allison: No, I Dream to Dream. No, no, no.

[11:44] Allison: I Dream to Dream, important distinction.

[11:46] Ian: See, that's what fucked me up at first

[11:48] Ian: because when I read it, I was like, oh, an Artolo.

[11:50] Ian: Done.

[11:52] Ian: Like, that's what she's going to vote for.

[11:54] Ian: And then I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[11:56] Ian: It's a Lea Michele Idina Menzel.

[11:58] Ian: Menzel.

[12:00] Ian: Lea Michele Idina Menzel.

[12:02] Ian: It's a Lea Menzel.

[12:06] Allison: And so that kind of startled me.

[12:08] Allison: But

[12:10] Allison: It's Not Right But It's Okay, just

[12:12] Allison: fucking, it doesn't matter what season

[12:14] Allison: it is, it doesn't matter

[12:16] Allison: my mood, that song

[12:18] Allison: is going to hit me upside the head

[12:20] Allison: and feel so good.

[12:22] Ian: And I think that's what

[12:24] Ian: Jenna Ushkowitz was going to vote for.

[12:26] Allison: And it sounds like I'm right.

[12:28] Ian: You are wrong, actually. You're wrong.

[12:30] Ian: Tina Cohen Chang.

[12:32] Ian: Tina Cohen Chang.

[12:34] Ian: A fictional character voted

[12:36] Ian: for that.

[12:38] Ian: A woman that doesn't even exist on our planet.

[12:40] Ian: A two-time Pomoni Award winner and a real human being

[12:42] Ian: voted for I Dreamed a Dream.

[12:44] Allison: God damn it.

[12:46] Allison: Yeah.

[12:48] Ian: Well, I was like, almost right.

[12:50] Allison: You were almost. They're pretty similar.

[12:52] Ian: These two divas.

[12:54] Ian: The harmonies in I Dreamed a Dream, I mean,

[12:56] Ian: God, that changed

[12:58] Ian: the entire song. I can't listen to the normal version.

[13:00] Ian: I go, where's the alto line? What the fuck?

[13:02] Ian: Why are we only singing the melody?

[13:04] Ian: It's gorgeous. Them dramatically

[13:06] Ian: in matching dresses, Lee Michele

[13:08] Ian: lying on the ground,

[13:10] Ian: Idina Menzel kneeling behind her, hand on her

[13:12] Ian: shoulder, them looking off different directions.

[13:14] Ian: That is drama. That is

[13:16] Ian: camp. I'm obsessed. It is so

[13:18] Ian: over the top. I really

[13:20] Ian: love that number.

[13:22] Allison: I feel as though I Dreamed a Dream,

[13:24] Allison: the Gleecast version by the Gleecast,

[13:26] Allison: does suffer from the Defying Gravity

[13:28] Allison: Gleecast version by the Gleecast.

[13:30] Ian: Kind of...

[13:32] Ian: Stay with me.

[13:34] Ian: It suffers from these

[13:36] Ian: two really dramatic...

[13:38] Allison: Stop looking at me like that!

[13:40] Ian: What are you about to say?

[13:42] Ian: I'm just looking at you.

[13:44] Ian: I'm not talking about you, Jenna. I'm talking about Jenna.

[13:46] Ian: Um...

[13:48] Ian: Stop.

[13:50] Ian: Okay, I need to look away.

[13:52] Ian: The fact that these are

[13:54] Ian: two really...

[13:56] Ian: They're from musicals.

[13:58] Ian: They're big.

[14:00] Ian: They're not both showy numbers because

[14:02] Ian: I understand that I Dreamed a Dream is a little bit more somber.

[14:04] Ian: But I would like

[14:06] Ian: to have a little bit more

[14:08] Ian: dramatics

[14:10] Ian: to I Dreamed a Dream.

[14:12] Allison: I love the Anne Hathaway struggling to breathe.

[14:14] Ian: Tight close-up.

[14:16] Ian: Oh, you wanted the...

[14:18] Ian: Yes!

[14:20] Ian: Struggling...

[14:22] Ian: Got you.

[14:24] Ian: I like...

[14:26] Ian: I kind of see

[14:28] Ian: what you're saying. I don't agree at all.

[14:30] Ian: I kind of see what you're saying.

[14:32] Ian: I don't agree at all.

[14:34] Ian: Because Defying Gravity

[14:36] Ian: grand orchestrations

[14:38] Ian: like there's an ensemble

[14:40] Ian: singing behind her big powerful

[14:42] Ian: voice cut to glee.

[14:44] Ian: It's like a fucking pop stripped down

[14:46] Ian: version. It's super condensed.

[14:48] Ian: God love him. We have

[14:50] Ian: Chris Colfer singing head voice the entire time.

[14:52] Ian: It is so black and

[14:54] Ian: white different versions of the

[14:56] Ian: song. Whereas

[14:58] Ian: this to me is a pretty faithful

[15:00] Ian: adaptation of I Dreamed a Dream. They just cut

[15:02] Ian: the verse about having a boyfriend because that

[15:04] Ian: doesn't make sense. But besides that,

[15:06] Ian: it is I Dreamed a Dream. The orchestration

[15:08] Ian: is largely familiar.

[15:10] Ian: They aren't giving Anne Hathaway gasping

[15:12] Ian: for breath, sure.

[15:14] Ian: They're also not giving Susan Boyle

[15:16] Ian: really saying,

[15:18] Ian: unattractive.

[15:20] Ian: In the sense that

[15:24] Ian: No, but that really was why the video went

[15:26] Ian: viral. It was.

[15:28] Ian: That was the purpose.

[15:30] Ian: That's why it went viral.

[15:32] Ian: Not enough people are saying that.

[15:34] Ian: People think that ugly people can sing.

[15:40] Ian: In the sense that

[15:42] Ian: that's what I wanted.

[15:44] Allison: Oh my god.

[15:46] Ian: You said why the fuck

[15:48] Ian: are Idina Menzel and

[15:50] Ian: Lea Michele

[15:52] Ian: conventional beauty standards

[15:54] Ian: in this number? What the hell?

[15:56] Ian: You can't be hot and sing

[15:58] Ian: this song, okay?

[16:00] Ian: We need to lose one.

[16:04] Allison: No, I love this version.

[16:06] Allison: And the harmonies.

[16:08] Ian: I mean, come on. And the echo.

[16:10] Ian: I can't hear the bridge of this song

[16:12] Ian: without hearing the column response.

[16:14] Ian: When I hear, but the tigers

[16:16] Ian: come at night, and no one is doing

[16:18] Ian: the counter melody.

[16:20] Ian: What's the point?

[16:22] Ian: When I see Les Miserables, I don't care

[16:24] Ian: if it doesn't make any sense, I want some

[16:26] Ian: fucking featured ensemble to come on stage

[16:28] Ian: and do a column response with Fontaine

[16:30] Ian: during this number.

[16:32] Ian: Idina Menzel.

[16:34] Ian: And what they always talk about

[16:36] Ian: is a glee number should get extra credit

[16:38] Ian: if it's better than the original.

[16:40] Ian: Sorry, Patti LuPone, you got eaten alive.

[16:42] Ian: This version is better than the original.

[16:44] Ian: It has a counter melody in it.

[16:46] Allison: I love that. That's a good take.

[16:48] Ian: You're also talking to two people that

[16:50] Ian: really don't know enough about singing.

[16:52] Allison: I don't know if it's landing really well.

[16:54] Ian: I know a lot about singing. Are you kidding?

[16:56] Ian: Talk for yourself.

[16:58] Ian: I sing on this podcast

[17:00] Ian: all the time. I'm classically

[17:02] Ian: trained. Come on.

[17:04] Allison: I'm glad that we got this out.

[17:06] Allison: I hope that nobody cancels me

[17:08] Allison: for my opinion on...

[17:10] Ian: Susan Boyle is listening.

[17:12] Ian: Susan Boyle was like, I was supposed to be

[17:14] Ian: a lunch lady on this show.

[17:16] Allison: I was about to say, she said,

[17:18] Allison: this show already promised

[17:20] Allison: me a lunch lady slot and axed me

[17:22] Allison: and now this?

[17:24] Ian: And now, decades later, I'm still getting slandered.

[17:26] Andrew: Okay, so...

[17:28] Andrew: We're going to do two competitions.

[17:30] Andrew: What do you want to see today? What are we feeling?

[17:32] Andrew: Do we want to fight? Do we want to be really cool?

[17:34] Andrew: We're doing a Saturday recording, which is not typical,

[17:36] Andrew: you know, what are we thinking about?

[17:38] Ian: The Gleekend weekend.

[17:40] Andrew: Oh, here's to the Gleekend weekend.

[17:42] Ian: Drink to that.

[17:46] Andrew: I want to watch that from

[17:48] Andrew: Smash. Have that be one of the competitions.

[17:50] Ian: Any Smash heads in the chat?

[17:52] Allison: Not in this chat.

[17:54] Andrew: So let me walk you through...

[17:56] Andrew: No.

[17:58] Andrew: Let me walk you through the context of when they sing

[18:00] Andrew: Drink to That on the NBC

[18:02] Andrew: hit show Smash, which is

[18:04] Andrew: much more important, obviously, than a

[18:06] Andrew: continuing part of the podcast.

[18:08] Andrew: So,

[18:10] Andrew: our two titular girls,

[18:12] Andrew: Karen and Ivy,

[18:14] Andrew: they are rivals

[18:16] Andrew: because they're both up for the lead role

[18:18] Andrew: in a musical. And Ivy,

[18:20] Andrew: meanwhile, Marilyn Monroe,

[18:22] Andrew: in Bombshell, the Marilyn Monroe story.

[18:24] Ian: Of course! Although at this point, it's being called

[18:26] Ian: Marilyn the Musical.

[18:28] Andrew: Ivy was

[18:30] Andrew: playing Marilyn,

[18:32] Andrew: and Karen was in the

[18:34] Andrew: ensemble. But then

[18:36] Andrew: they announce that they're gonna get

[18:38] Andrew: a movie star to come play Marilyn,

[18:40] Andrew: and so Ivy gets her asses

[18:42] Andrew: fired. And she's cut from the show

[18:44] Andrew: and she's out of a job. And so she

[18:46] Andrew: goes back to her old job

[18:48] Andrew: as an ensemble member in a different

[18:50] Andrew: Broadway show. But

[18:52] Andrew: she, at this point, has a horrible

[18:54] Andrew: pill addiction. It's just crazy.

[18:56] Andrew: And she also has been fucking

[18:58] Andrew: the director, and now the director that she was fucking

[19:00] Andrew: has fired her. So she's like, she's losing

[19:02] Andrew: her mind.

[19:04] Ian: Exactly. So she is

[19:06] Ian: ready to go on in her ensemble

[19:08] Ian: role in the Broadway musical Heaven on Earth,

[19:10] Ian: where she plays an ensemble angel

[19:12] Ian: and has one solo line. But she

[19:14] Ian: uh oh, poor Ivy.

[19:16] Ian: She took too many pills.

[19:18] Ian: And she goes on stage, and she

[19:20] Ian: is under the influence.

[19:22] Ian: She is gone.

[19:24] Ian: And she says her line, and she's like,

[19:26] Ian: does not announce it. It's terrible.

[19:28] Ian: She gets backstage. The stage manager is like,

[19:30] Ian: your ass is on the street.

[19:32] Ian: So Ivy

[19:34] Ian: has now lost two Broadway contracts

[19:36] Ian: in like two days. The man she's

[19:38] Ian: in love with who's fucking her fired her.

[19:40] Ian: She has a pill addiction. She also

[19:42] Ian: has a very complicated relationship with her mom,

[19:44] Ian: Bernadette Peters. And she is

[19:46] Ian: mid-show fired.

[19:48] Andrew: Walks into the streets,

[19:50] Andrew: still reeling because she's still on pills.

[19:52] Andrew: Also still in her

[19:54] Andrew: Broadway ensemble angel costume.

[19:56] Andrew: The stage manager said,

[19:58] Andrew: we're firing you, but you can keep the costume.

[20:00] Andrew: We don't need it.

[20:02] Andrew: She's walking

[20:04] Andrew: through the theater district.

[20:06] Andrew: Once again, high on pills.

[20:08] Andrew: She has sunglasses on

[20:10] Andrew: because the lights are irritating her.

[20:12] Andrew: And she's dressed as a sexy angel.

[20:14] Andrew: And she's like, oh, what's going on?

[20:16] Andrew: And she runs into that bitch

[20:18] Andrew: Karen Cartwright, her rival

[20:20] Andrew: from Maryland.

[20:22] Andrew: That girl who is still in

[20:24] Andrew: the musical when Ivy got fired.

[20:26] Andrew: And she's like, literally, fuck you. I hate you, bitch.

[20:28] Andrew: And Karen's like, Ivy,

[20:30] Andrew: I know you've had a really hard day.

[20:32] Andrew: I know you've had a really hard few days,

[20:34] Andrew: but I'm not the enemy.

[20:36] Andrew: We're sisters. We should be in this together.

[20:38] Andrew: They're having this conversation

[20:40] Andrew: in the middle of Times Square.

[20:42] Andrew: And they hear a street

[20:44] Andrew: performer playing

[20:46] Andrew: drink to that.

[20:48] Andrew: And then Karen is like, Ivy,

[20:50] Andrew: I know.

[20:52] Andrew: She's like, I know that you are

[20:54] Andrew: on drugs right now.

[20:56] Andrew: I know that you just got fired twice.

[20:58] Andrew: I know that you are still in your angel costume

[21:00] Andrew: from when you were doing the job

[21:02] Andrew: that you just got fired from.

[21:04] Andrew: But what if we said, here's to the freaking weekend.

[21:06] Andrew: Don't let the bastards get you down.

[21:08] Andrew: Here we go. And they perform that song together.

[21:10] Andrew: It is television.

[21:12] Andrew: That was the greatest moment

[21:14] Andrew: in TV history. It saved NBC.

[21:16] Andrew: It won a million Emmy Awards.

[21:18] Andrew: And it was renewed for 10 more seasons.

[21:20] Ian: 10 more?

[21:22] Ian: That show is

[21:24] Ian: insane.

[21:26] Ian: That's crazy.

[21:28] Andrew: God, what's the best

[21:30] Andrew: song on Smash? Let's do that next.

[21:32] Ian: No one's talking about this show.

[21:34] Andrew: Would you say that that's the best song on Smash?

[21:36] Ian: Oh, fuck no. The best song on Smash

[21:38] Ian: is Let's Be Bad. A song so nice

[21:40] Ian: they used it twice because Mark Shaman,

[21:42] Ian: after he wrote it for Smash, and then Smash tanked

[21:44] Ian: and was cancelled, he then wrote the musical

[21:46] Ian: to Some Like It Hot and went, hopefully no one

[21:48] Ian: remembers that I already wrote this song for Smash.

[21:50] Ian: And he put Let's Be Bad in Some Like

[21:52] Ian: It Hot.

[21:54] Ian: And I saw Jay Harrison

[21:56] Ian: Gee sing that song and I went, you can't pull

[21:58] Ian: the wool over my eyes.

[22:00] Ian: You can't pull the wool over my eyes.

[22:02] Ian: Stop pulling the wool over my eyes.

[22:04] Ian: Give it back to her.

[22:06] Andrew: You know who also did something similar?

[22:08] Andrew: Who?

[22:10] Ian: Darren Criss did that.

[22:12] Andrew: Darren Criss

[22:14] Andrew: wrote a song. With Ginny. With Ginny.

[22:16] Ian: And huh? Uh-huh.

[22:18] Ian: You know exactly what I'm talking about.

[22:20] Andrew: I actually don't.

[22:22] Ian: He wrote

[22:24] Ian: a song, Sammy,

[22:26] Ian: for a... Yeah, with Sammy.

[22:28] Ian: Sammy and

[22:30] Ian: they had it in

[22:32] Ian: what was that called? Not Big Little Lies.

[22:34] Ian: Little White Lies was

[22:36] Ian: their short film

[22:38] Ian: mini web series and Sammy

[22:40] Ian: was in this web series.

[22:42] Ian: And then when they were making a

[22:44] Ian: Very Potter musical, they needed another song.

[22:46] Ian: And so Darren changed the words

[22:48] Ian: to Sammy to fit Ginny.

[22:50] Ian: And he thought he could

[22:52] Ian: pull the wool over my eyes!

[22:54] Ian: Guess what? I've consumed every Darren

[22:56] Ian: fucking Criss content that exists, bitch.

[22:58] Ian: You said, while Little White Lies

[23:00] Ian: is still on YouTube, I don't

[23:02] Ian: think so, Emmy Award winner Darren Criss.

[23:04] Ian: Tony Award winner Darren Criss.

[23:06] Ian: You're a song repeater.

[23:08] Andrew: Exactly.

[23:10] Andrew: Am I being a contrarian right now?

[23:12] Ian: I don't really mind that.

[23:14] Ian: I'm not in either of your shoes.

[23:16] Ian: I think it's economical and smart.

[23:18] Andrew: That's what Glee's doing.

[23:20] Andrew: I was like, do you really

[23:22] Andrew: dream for fucking

[23:24] Andrew: Dream On? No.

[23:30] Ian: Yeah, I'm taking it back to Glee, baby.

[23:32] Ian: That's what I'm doing.

[23:34] Andrew: Oh, okay. And Darren Criss

[23:36] Andrew: is one step toward Glee because he was

[23:38] Andrew: on the Hip Hop show.

[23:40] Ian: I remember now.

[23:42] Ian: So, Ian

[23:44] Ian: Auschwitz, you are looking forward

[23:46] Ian: to Cheers to the Freaking Weekend,

[23:48] Ian: which, unfortunately, not in the

[23:50] Ian: and not even on the Hip Hop show, Glee.

[23:52] Andrew: Anything from Smash

[23:54] Andrew: I'm down for.

[23:56] Andrew: That's not the name of the game here,

[23:58] Andrew: so we're going to move the question.

[24:00] Andrew: There is, hear me out.

[24:02] Andrew: What? In Smash, they do also sing

[24:04] Andrew: Under Pressure, and Oscar Award winner

[24:06] Andrew: Angelica Houston does sing, and she is

[24:08] Andrew: bad. She's very bad.

[24:10] Ian: Wait, I thought that was going to have to do

[24:12] Ian: with the songs on Glee.

[24:14] Andrew: I'm just trying to get people

[24:16] Andrew: to watch. But hear me out.

[24:18] Andrew: Angelica Houston

[24:20] Andrew: sings badly.

[24:22] Ian: Oh my gosh, wait, wait.

[24:24] Ian: They do sing Hear Me Out, and I think this is right.

[24:26] Ian: I have to double check. I'm pretty sure that

[24:28] Ian: Karen Cartwright sings Shake It Off.

[24:30] Ian: Shake It Out, pardon me.

[24:32] Ian: Shake It Out, Shake It Out.

[24:34] Andrew: And actually, that's someone's bar mitzvah.

[24:36] Andrew: So if we pull that,

[24:38] Andrew: let's pull that,

[24:40] Andrew: and then I'll talk about Smash some more.

[24:42] Ian: Okay, perfect.

[24:44] Ian: You're telling me that's still in the cup?

[24:46] Ian: That's still in the cup? I can't wait to

[24:48] Ian: fucking murder her.

[24:50] Ian: She does sing that.

[24:52] Ian: Do you really want to murder it?

[24:54] Ian: I want Shake It Off

[24:56] Ian: Out. Shake It Out, Shake It Out.

[24:58] Ian: Is that the Beast one?

[25:00] Ian: Shake It Out!

[25:02] Ian: I want her out of here!

[25:04] Andrew: Because what song

[25:06] Andrew: do I want to hear tonight?

[25:08] Ian: Wow, thank you so much for asking me.

[25:10] Ian: I'm actually going to non sequitur

[25:12] Ian: to another show that's not going to be on.

[25:16] Ian: And I think that Jenna will...

[25:18] Ian: Jenna, I believe you posted

[25:20] Ian: an Instagram story the other day about

[25:22] Ian: this show, The Traitors.

[25:24] Allison: Oh yeah, I'm still mad about it.

[25:26] Ian: Beautiful production.

[25:28] Andrew: Well, I haven't finished the third episode.

[25:30] Ian: No spoilers then.

[25:32] Andrew: No spoilers, I haven't finished the third episode.

[25:34] Ian: I don't really know what else is going to go on in this episode.

[25:36] Ian: I mean, I'm mad about the beginning of the third episode

[25:38] Ian: so you already saw what I'm mad about.

[25:40] Andrew: Oh, sure.

[25:42] Andrew: What I wanted to say

[25:44] Andrew: how am I going to bring Traitors

[25:46] Andrew: and relate it to Glee?

[25:48] Andrew: I want to know

[25:50] Andrew: is Alan Cumming, has he

[25:52] Andrew: ever been, or will he ever be

[25:54] Andrew: in the Ryan Murphy

[25:56] Andrew: verse?

[25:58] Ian: He has to have been in the Ryan Murphy verse.

[26:00] Ian: He's giving Ryan Murphy universe.

[26:04] Andrew: I swear to God.

[26:06] Andrew: Let's take a look.

[26:08] Andrew: If he hasn't been on an American Horror Story, he needs to be.

[26:10] Ian: I don't know.

[26:12] Ian: It doesn't look like he has.

[26:14] Andrew: They might have went on a

[26:16] Andrew: date that went really bad

[26:18] Andrew: in 2008. Probably.

[26:22] Ian: And then...

[26:24] Ian: And Ryan was like, you're never going to be on the show.

[26:26] Andrew: You're never going to be part of the Ryan Murphy verse.

[26:28] Ian: And he was like, why would you call it that?

[26:36] Andrew: He got famous just to spite him.

[26:40] Ian: I'm obsessed with Traitors right now

[26:42] Ian: and I think that

[26:44] Ian: if we made the Glee Club play

[26:46] Ian: Traitors, like who's going to be a traitor, who's going to be a

[26:48] Ian: faithful,

[26:50] Ian: I do think that the

[26:52] Ian: secret

[26:54] Ian: secret traitor,

[26:56] Ian: we're kind of doing this thing where there's

[26:58] Ian: traitors and then there's a secret traitor

[27:00] Ian: that not even the traitors know about.

[27:02] Andrew: Which like, okay.

[27:04] Ian: Which, I know.

[27:06] Ian: What are we doing?

[27:08] Ian: It's like Inception, but I think that

[27:10] Ian: somebody who would be a very good traitor

[27:12] Ian: within a traitor

[27:14] Ian: would be Marley.

[27:16] Allison: Rose?

[27:18] Ian: Marley Rose!

[27:20] Ian: You got that one.

[27:22] Ian: Marley Rose would be a great traitor on Traitor because

[27:24] Ian: I think that her dark side was explored

[27:26] Ian: enough in the TV show Glee.

[27:28] Ian: We got a little bit of it

[27:30] Ian: but it was

[27:32] Ian: season one Rachel

[27:34] Ian: wearing the

[27:36] Ian: Grease outfit bad.

[27:38] Allison: I want bad, bad girl.

[27:40] Ian: Oh, you're talking about like Katy Gaga

[27:42] Ian: where she wears the Katy Perry when she's

[27:44] Ian: supposed to be Lady Gaga.

[27:46] Allison: Yeah, that's tame. I want her to do

[27:48] Allison: like dominatrix. I want

[27:50] Allison: her to do what

[27:52] Allison: Lily Reinhardt's character

[27:54] Allison: did in

[27:56] Allison: Dark Betty.

[27:58] Ian: Where is her singing Mad World

[28:00] Ian: and doing a striptease for her parents?

[28:02] Allison: And stripping!

[28:04] Ian: Striptease for her parents?

[28:06] Ian: I want to see her mom in the cafeteria

[28:08] Ian: Marley Rose on the couch.

[28:10] Allison: Millie Rose

[28:12] Allison: and Susan Boyle are giving kids lunch.

[28:14] Ian: And Jennifer Lopez

[28:16] Ian: lest we forget.

[28:18] Ian: Marley Rose

[28:20] Ian: out on the tables

[28:22] Ian: singing Mad World

[28:24] Ian: in a black bob wig

[28:26] Ian: doing a striptease. I agree.

[28:28] Ian: Dark Marley, where was it?

[28:30] Ian: That's why I want the reboot.

[28:32] Ian: If we're getting a Glee reboot and we're

[28:34] Ian: not getting that, don't give it to us.

[28:36] Ian: What's the point?

[28:38] Ian: Whatever happened to fun?

[28:40] Andrew: The show used to be a blast.

[28:42] Andrew: When someone is a traitor on

[28:44] Andrew: Traders, do they actually say

[28:46] Andrew: when they're doing interviews after

[28:48] Andrew: be like, hi, my name is

[28:50] Andrew: Kelly and I was a traitor on Traders?

[28:54] Ian: Do they say that?

[28:56] Ian: The interview is happening

[28:58] Ian: during the show.

[29:00] Andrew: I just think that the sentence

[29:02] Andrew: I was a traitor on Traders

[29:04] Andrew: I was a traitor on Traders.

[29:06] Andrew: I don't know if

[29:08] Andrew: Bob the Drag Queen's number one

[29:10] Andrew: acolyte said

[29:12] Andrew: I was a traitor on Traders

[29:14] Andrew: like Boston Rob.

[29:18] Ian: I just really like the way that comes out.

[29:20] Ian: Traitor on Traders.

[29:22] Ian: I would love to

[29:24] Ian: be able to say that.

[29:26] Ian: Traders USA, I know that you're looking for

[29:28] Ian: regular people for this next

[29:30] Ian: season.

[29:32] Ian: DM me.

[29:34] Ian: I'm regular.

[29:36] Ian: I'm a normal girl.

[29:38] Ian: Last time I checked

[29:40] Ian: less than 200 followers

[29:42] Ian: on Instagram.

[29:44] Ian: I get bored.

[29:46] Ian: He's got the cup.

[29:48] Ian: He's got the cup.

[29:50] Andrew: I don't think I got a clear answer from either of you.

[29:52] Andrew: Andrew literally was like, okay,

[29:54] Andrew: enough's enough. I'm just starting.

[29:56] Andrew: Anyways.

[29:58] Andrew: I have to nip this in the bud.

[30:00] Andrew: I'm just excited for anything to come out of that cup, okay?

[30:02] Allison: I don't think that you like this one.

[30:03] Andrew: I'm excited for it to change my life.

[30:05] Allison: You think I like this one?

[30:06] Andrew: No, I think that you don't like this one.

[30:09] Allison: Oh, exciting. Okay, fun.

[30:11] Andrew: Great.

[30:11] Andrew: And I think that Ian might.

[30:14] Ian: Oh, I love this one.

[30:15] Andrew: So this will be fun.

[30:16] Andrew: If you were Alan Cumming, would you pick this song to be a traitor on traitors?

[30:21] Ian: Uh, yeah, I would.

[30:24] Andrew: Would you do a strip tease in front of your parents to this song?

[30:28] Ian: Yeah, get them both in the same room and be like, yeah, have you seen the two in the same room?

[30:40] Allison: Um, okay, wait, you can see you can see the title.

[30:43] Andrew: Oh, wow.

[30:45] Allison: This is a big, big day.

[30:48] Andrew: This is a big girl.

[30:49] Allison: Is that Rory in front of her?

[30:52] Andrew: Oh, no, I think that's Kurt Hummel.

[30:55] Allison: Oh, that's Kurt Hummel.

[30:56] Andrew: I have no idea what this is.

[30:57] Allison: And I did block the title on purpose.

[31:00] Andrew: The song here is so emotional.

[31:08] Allison: The I always forget about that shot of Blaine.

[31:13] Andrew: The whole number. Just tortured, mournful Blaine watching his boyfriend laugh at another man's text.

[31:23] Allison: Oh, God.

[31:38] Ian: Oh, wow.

[31:40] Ian: If the clothes that they're wearing did not date this song or this scene, I think that the fact I mean, or just like the green bubbles in the message.

[31:47] Andrew: Messages dated this song.

[31:56] Ian: I think Kurt not getting the immediate ick from that pun.

[32:01] Andrew: Wait, what was it? What was the pun again?

[32:04] Ian: You must have been Cleopatra in another life. You've got a great asp.

[32:08] Andrew: That is ick material. Don't do that.

[32:11] Ian: No, that's no desperate. No.

[32:16] Andrew: I think that like it would have worked on 17 year old me.

[32:19] Ian: Okay, okay, so probably would have worked on me too.

[32:27] Andrew: Yeah, probably.

[32:29] Ian: But I am just I this song brings up so much unresolved trauma from the black it.

[32:37] Ian: This was, I think, the first time this song in round one was against fighter.

[32:44] Andrew: And of course, yes, being who I am, I'm gonna vote for fighter.

[32:48] Ian: Uh huh.

[32:48] Ian: And this was the first time my name was really put on a spigot and roasted.

[32:55] Ian: And I got I was I realized the power of the gleeks and it put a lot of things into perspective.

[33:03] Andrew: So I'm a little bit scared.

[33:05] Ian: No, it was like really, it was crazy. It was like very early on where it was like, we would just release episodes. We wouldn't hear a goddamn thing. It would be like, okay, release. And like, no one's gonna say anything back release, release. We release an episode where so emotional gets eliminated from the black it all the sudden. It's like wait murder number one podcast alert. All these people, all these people have shit to say.

[33:32] Andrew: They're at our doorsteps. Scary, big, big, scary.

[33:37] Ian: So I am scared. I think this song invented the bringing songs back.

[33:43] Andrew: Well, yeah, it got voted back.

[33:46] Ian: Um, and then this is the song that we reason why we did that.

[33:50] Andrew: I Oh, I think Yeah, I think you might be right.

[33:53] Ian: Yeah.

[33:54] Ian: Because it was just like, we actually do need it back. We need here's how so emotional and still when the glass are reacting so intensely.

[34:01] Andrew: Yeah, people are so emotional, so emotional.

[34:05] Ian: People are so emotional, so emotional.

[34:09] Andrew: It's in the name.

[34:09] Ian: Um, and then also just to finish this glistory lesson, it won against the hollow notes mashup from season three. I can't go for that. You make my dreams.

[34:20] Andrew: And who was there that episode? Do you know that was Alexa and Claudia?

[34:24] Ian: I just looked it up. Do almost anything that you want me to very, very cute.

[34:30] Andrew: But so emotional. Kurt, I know you're a gay guy. And I know that another gay guy is giving you attention. But ultimately, you are a gay guy. And you should respect the fact that this performance is happening. Get off the phone that and that's and that's the true test of every gay guy is a gay guy is giving you sexual attention. And also to divas are down. Where's your attention going?

[35:01] Ian: And he made a choice. He made a choice that day made the wrong one.

[35:05] Andrew: He made that. And it always like throws me off. Like I remember like watching this episode live and being like, Oh, Sam is looking at the text messages. Surely we'll get like that will be brought back later. Like Sam will be like, Hey, Blaine. Kurt's cheating alert. Like, let's talk about it. Sam doesn't do anything with this information. Fake friend. Fake because it's because Sam is too stupid to understand the wordplay.

[35:29] Ian: And he's like, I didn't know that Kurt had a pet snake. And and Kurt's like, Oh, I thought this storyline was like, I knew it. I saw your bleach blonde hair. I knew it.

[35:46] Andrew: Oh, okay.

[35:52] Ian: Um, okay. So emotional. Who has things to say? I'm too scared.

[35:58] Andrew: Um, this song is great. Is this like the first Pez Berry?

[36:02] Ian: This is like their their first laying down of their weapons. Am I correct in this?

[36:06] Andrew: Um, so this is I think they're like, third duet together. But like in the episode, they say like, this is our first and I'm like, actually, bitch.

[36:17] Ian: You've already done two.

[36:19] Andrew: I mean, I'm not counting like I'm not counting West Side Story because I do think there's a difference between we were cast in this show. Okay, like that duet, as opposed to like, we have our own volition decided to do a duet. What's the other one? We found love, which is a group number where they're leading. They're the only vocals.

[36:37] Ian: Yeah, so I'll give it to them. This is their duets. Because also maybe we found love. Will was like, I'm assigning the solos and it's Santana and Rachel, whereas this one, they chose to do it of their own volition.

[36:51] Andrew: Fine. Yes. I think this allowed. I think this number is fun. Obviously, these two girls are very talented. I like specifically I love when Santana goes up to Brittany and Rachel goes up to Finn. And they are singing to like their loved ones. And then they turn and point at each other and sing to each other. I think that moment is very sweet.

[37:14] Ian: And I like Finn being a proud boyfriend filming Rachel on his phone the entire time as well.

[37:19] Andrew: Yeah, that is very nice. Speaking of envy touch or some shit. Brittany and Finn. I remember like Allison, I texted you like a few months ago because I really went through a phase with That's So True, Gracie Abrams. I remember being like, this is a Brittany Finn duet. What do you think?

[37:38] Allison: Yes. The one we needed. And like, yes, I just can't escape that. And I just needed to say that out loud. Thank you.

[37:45] Ian: I've been thinking a lot about Gracie Abrams, too.

[37:48] Allison: I've been thinking a lot about just pop music in general.

[37:51] Ian: And?

[37:52] Allison: I mean, that's it.

[37:54] Ian: What conclusion have you reached?

[37:56] Allison: The conclusion that I've reached.

[37:57] Ian: What song would they sing on Glee if it was still on today?

[38:00] Allison: Wow, I'm so glad you asked that question. Great question. Midnight Sun by Zara Larsson is the best song ever written and made and produced.

[38:10] Ian: And they would absolutely demolish it both on Smash and on Glee and on Riverdale.

[38:16] Allison: And Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist.

[38:18] Ian: And Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist. Those bitches would be doing it, too.

[38:22] Allison: And on Pitch Perfect, probably.

[38:24] Ian: Probably, knowing them. Bumper and Berlin. Multiple Skylar Astin projects.

[38:30] Allison: Who's singing it on Glee?

[38:32] Ian: I mean, Brittany.

[38:33] Allison: Brittany.

[38:34] Ian: Brittany.

[38:35] Allison: We're giving it all to her.

[38:36] Ian: Yeah.

[38:37] Andrew: Okay.

[38:41] Ian: And then she's shaking ass.

[38:42] Andrew: Shaking ass. Wait, I don't even... Besides that one part, how does the song go?

[38:47] Ian: Never-ending.

[38:48] Andrew: Okay. Initials in the sand. Cry to the minion man. I've got a minute over yet. There's a never-ending midnight sun.

[39:01] Ian: Yeah, that's a Bertolo.

[39:03] Andrew: I'm a classically trained everyone.

[39:06] Ian: Hell yeah.

[39:06] Andrew: This is the only place I sing.

[39:09] Ian: Hell yeah.

[39:10] Andrew: I save it. I save it just for this fucking podcast.

[39:14] Ian: Good.

[39:16] Andrew: Speaking of singing, Ian...

[39:20] Ian: So emotional.

[39:21] Andrew: I don't know. Speaking...

[39:22] Ian: No, no, no. Speaking of singing, Ian, do you remember going to see Lea Michele live, and someone said that their favorite song that she did on Glee was so emotional, and she didn't remember doing this?

[39:35] Ian: The main memory I have, which you have brought this up, is when someone said, New York State of Mind, and then she's saying...

[39:43] Andrew: She's like, I can't sing that.

[39:45] Ian: Yeah. And she's like, oh yeah, New York. I'm not going to sing that.

[39:50] Andrew: I believe you, and it sounds a little bit familiar, yes.

[39:54] Ian: Yeah. She was like, someone was like, sing so emotional. And she's like, I didn't sing that song. And we were all like, yes, you did. We have the tapes.

[40:04] Andrew: I also love... Because I understand that for these actors, they're just clocking in and clocking out. This is truly work. They're not remembering everything. But for her to have the self-confidence not to go, oh, I don't remember that, but to go, I didn't sing that. I didn't do that. That wasn't me. You guys are all wrong.

[40:21] Ian: You guys are wrong. Sorry.

[40:24] Andrew: Fools. Sorry. Idiots.

[40:27] Ian: Any final notes about so emotional before we get into its competitor?

[40:32] Andrew: Scared.

[40:33] Ian: Scared.

[40:34] Andrew: Get big scared.

[40:36] Ian: Big scared.

[40:38] Andrew: A Quinn wheelchair episode. You mentioned this, I think, literally last week. But just when you are watching numbers from these episodes, and you see Diana Agon, and you go, oh, yeah, it's during that.

[40:49] Ian: Oh, yeah. I like this face. What are we about to see?

[40:54] Andrew: Talking about so emotional. Yikerinos.

[40:58] Ian: No!

[41:00] Andrew: Oh, god. Don't be like this.

[41:02] Ian: You know what it's gonna be. Come on. Don't do it to me.

[41:04] Andrew: What are you?

[41:08] Ian: I think you can get it from that hint, Allison.

[41:12] Allison: Yeah.

[41:13] Ian: What is it?

[41:15] Allison: I think, is it a sad emotion?

[41:19] Ian: It's the perfect song for us.

[41:23] Allison: For you and me?

[41:25] Ian: Fucking.

[41:25] Allison: Or the Jenna Jenna and you?

[41:27] Ian: For two Jennas, one Andrew, is that? Well, me and Allison Dodge, if you've ever met her.

[41:34] Andrew: Oh my god, it's The Scientist!

[41:37] Ian: It is The Scientist.

[41:41] Allison: Oh, god, this is good.

[41:43] Ian: Oh, fuck. I've never been this sober listening to this.

[41:53] Andrew: Jamie Mae's looking at the camera, rushing away. Love that.

[41:56] Ian: Love it.

[41:58] Andrew: Oh. Alfonso Gomez-Arjón is the director of all directors, because that ending shot of everyone on stage, zoom in on Cory, zoom out, Cory's alone on stage. That is the gag of the century.

[42:13] Ian: That's crazy. He woke up in the cold of his wives. And he was like, oh, I have a vision. Did I have a vision? Give me my notepad. Here's how episode four ends!

[42:24] Andrew: Um, I just, we need to start it off with last year, when I was in Minnesota, you, Allison, you and I played this game where like, okay, there was a prompt and then we had to like, write down the answer to the prompt.

[42:41] Allison: I looked it up. It was a couples game.

[42:43] Andrew: Yeah. The prompt was, what song gets us super amped up and ready to party?

[42:53] Allison: And we both wrote down, the Scientistly cast version.

[43:02] Ian: Yay!

[43:03] Andrew: Oh, shit. It's so good.

[43:07] Ian: Oh, because famously, Andrew McGuire, do you, do you love to pregame with this? Or is this what we're listening to on the way home?

[43:19] Andrew: This is when we get home. When we get home and we're proper drunk. We're like, let's put on Gleek House music videos. And it's like, okay, pizza's heating up or McDonald's on the way.

[43:29] Ian: Yeah, DoorDash.

[43:30] Andrew: Yeah, right. And it's like, okay, and I'm specifically talking about, I hope you're listening, Swifty Gleek Smiler that you uploaded this to YouTube. And in the bottom right hand corner, it says, Swifty Gleek Smiler, the entire video. It's so important to me. It's gotten me through. Truly the darkest of times.

[43:52] Ian: Yeah. This is, I mean, even outside of the emotional ties to it.

[43:59] Andrew: So good. I think I've said this every time we've listened to this song on this podcast. But when I watched this for the first time, violently sobbing with my mom on the couch. She's sitting in front of me. She turns around and she's like, you need therapy. Like, you need help. You are way too emotionally attached to these people.

[44:18] Ian: I was ready to do that story for you.

[44:24] Andrew: If she's like, wait, I actually don't recall what happened when I watched this live.

[44:28] Ian: I know.

[44:29] Andrew: You know.

[44:31] Ian: It's beautiful. It's every couple ever breaking up.

[44:38] Andrew: And it's quintessential season four. Why did they take the story this way? I don't know. Will we ever know?

[44:45] Ian: I know.

[44:46] Andrew: I changed the course of history forever. Maybe. I think this was the right choice. I think that it was fun to be like, okay, we're gonna like, all these characters are not going to be coupled up anymore.

[45:00] Ian: Um, because they've been existing as a pairing for too long. And we need to see how they work individually. And I thought this was really fun. And just like to do it all in one episode. Why the fuck not? You know, Ryan Murphy was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna change television. I think this was huge. Everybody knew about it. I was sobbing. I was unwell logging into tumblr.com being like, what the fuck just happened?

[45:28] Andrew: All right, I'll bite. What the fuck?

[45:29] Ian: And I think that like, I'm like, always struck by like Wemma in this performance. Because like, I think that this is their last. This is their last attempt at like getting people to give a fuck about Wemma, you know?

[45:47] Andrew: Hey, he does say anything for her.

[45:51] Ian: I yeah, yeah, no, you're right. You're right.

[45:54] Ian: Yeah. There's a whole episode where he's like, come on, kids, help me win her back.

[45:58] Andrew: All right, kids, you know, the movie Say Anything. Let's go outside of her house. I know that we've been talking about our favorite movies this week. And for some reason, all of you 15 year olds in 2012 love movies from the 80s. You guys like John Cusack, right?

[46:16] Ian: Yeah, this all makes sense. Right, kids? Right, Younique?

[46:21] Andrew: I know apparently y'all love Animal House. So I got another one for you.

[46:28] Ian: I'm looking at you, kitty.

[46:36] Andrew: There is something that feels right about doing a Saturday night recording and like, watching this with you, the scientist.

[46:44] Ian: Thanks. Just feels right. I'm about to go out for the night. So this is a good way to start the evening.

[46:51] Andrew: Yeah, this is perfect. Of course, it's a song. It's a song that makes you want to party and gets you amped.

[46:57] Ian: Yeah, exactly. I really can't wait. What else do we have to say about the scientist? Who's best dressed?

[47:04] Andrew: Brittany is wearing a really god awful outfit. It's bad.

[47:08] Ian: Yeah, I don't like hers.

[47:10] Andrew: But that's actually the opposite of what I asked.

[47:13] Ian: Oh.

[47:15] Andrew: We're post glow up Rachel and I think post glow up Rachel, just the sexiest woman on the planet. The hair, the fresh blowout. I want to know how to do that.

[47:28] Ian: Kurt, turtleneck. Kurt looks really good.

[47:33] Andrew: I... No.

[47:35] Ian: I'm a big fan of Kurt's fit. I think it's cool and weird.

[47:39] Andrew: Cool and weird in which way?

[47:42] Ian: With a big old black blazer and big old black boots. Come on, he looks like a super villain.

[47:45] Andrew: He's a Bond villain.

[47:49] Ian: He's hiding in the shadows. It's like we're breaking up and we're not getting back together. Like ever.

[47:53] Andrew: And then there's Finn, black t-shirt. Finn is really boring.

[48:00] Ian: Well, could you argue that Finn is, this is how they're all dressing in his imagination?

[48:06] Andrew: That Brittany is wearing a god awful outfit? In his mind.

[48:11] Ian: Is the scientist occurring in Finn's brain?

[48:16] Andrew: That's such a good question.

[48:17] Ian: It is, right? In his like upside down.

[48:21] Andrew: That's why they're all gone at the end. He was the only one who was real.

[48:24] Ian: Wait, but Finn doesn't know that Wemma and Britannia.

[48:28] Andrew: He caught a vibe. He's like, okay, I can work with that weird look.

[48:33] Ian: Yeah, yeah. They have a group chat. They're all like, yeah, we're over.

[48:36] Andrew: Oh, you guys are over?

[48:37] Ian: Yeah, us too. And now he knows. I'm building something in my mind. You guys are all going to be there.

[48:44] Andrew: Well, and that's why Wemma is in this number. Because Wemma famously does not break up in this episode. They just have a fight.

[48:49] Ian: They just have a fight.

[48:51] Andrew: But Finn, because Finn is going through a breakup and he caught a vibe. He's like, they probably also broke up. So I'll put them in the song too.

[48:59] Ian: Exactly, exactly. I love that take.

[49:03] Andrew: But Tina and Mike or like, he's like, oh.

[49:07] Ian: Mike are already broken up.

[49:08] Andrew: They're already broken up. He's like, you already had your scientist and was off screen.

[49:12] Ian: It was during the hiatus.

[49:14] Andrew: Yeah, you got it.

[49:15] Ian: Yeah, of course. You got it. Don't be greedy.

[49:20] Andrew: I don't know where your votes. I have a feeling I know where Andrew's vote is going to go.

[49:26] Ian: Jenna, where is your vote going?

[49:29] Allison: If Tyke had been in it, I might feel differently. No, I, it's so emotional. Like, those are two divas and they're singing down. I'm voting for fucking The Scientist.

[49:44] Ian: Like, I love The Scientist, it's great.

[49:46] Andrew: Oh, wait. But like, The Scientist packs. I'm saying that like, So Emotional is great because like, they're talented. They sound amazing. But like, besides the fact that they're talented, they sound amazing. It's not really, there's nothing special about it besides the talent. Whereas this like, they're all talented and they sound amazing. And also, it packs a wallop, you know?

[50:12] Ian: Yeah. When I, when we flashback to the day they all met, it's over. K.O. Goodbye.

[50:20] Andrew: When we flashback to all these really important couple moments and then Britannia just looking at each other during a clock it, Rory number.

[50:29] Ian: Hell yeah. That really mellowed out them.

[50:31] Andrew: Yeah. Well, that was a special moment for them.

[50:37] Ian: Yeah, it was beautiful.

[50:39] Andrew: Okay, Andrew has to cast his vote next.

[50:42] Ian: Well, I'm going to do a boring thing.

[50:44] Andrew: Well, do a boring thing then.

[50:45] Ian: I'm, I'm also agreeing. The Scientist gets my vote. I, obviously like, So Emotional, it's iconic. Everything that you just said, Ian, like, it's, it's great. I love it. And I think like, honestly, DoTheAncestry.com, Riverdeep Mountain High's little sister.

[51:03] Andrew: Yeah. Ooh, I like that.

[51:06] Ian: But yeah, this one is just like, it's so iconic. It's so, it's, I was about to say, it's so emotional.

[51:13] Andrew: It is. This one makes me so emotional, yeah.

[51:15] Ian: But it's just like, you gotta laugh too. It's just like, so inherently like, dumb. Science, science and progress. Brain itched. It feels so good, which I'm so glad.

[51:29] Andrew: So Jenna's voting for the Scientist.

[51:32] Ian: Andrew's voting for the Scientist.

[51:34] Andrew: So Gleeks, put it on the record that I'm voting for So Emotional, okay?

[51:38] Ian: That's a pity vote.

[51:39] Andrew: And Allison, if I were to change my vote right now, how would you feel?

[51:43] Allison: No, you can't.

[51:44] Andrew: I can. Andrew gave me special permission.

[51:46] Ian: I can change it right now.

[51:47] Allison: Nope, you've locked it in.

[51:48] Andrew: Special permission at the beginning of the round. I said, Ian, you can do a take back.

[51:52] Ian: The voting has been sent in.

[51:54] Andrew: We're going to take back. It's going to be on your head.

[51:57] Ian: Gleeks, don't come for me. Don't come for my neck.

[52:00] Andrew: You scared me. That was literally four years ago.

[52:03] Ian: I am still scarred.

[52:06] Andrew: That's why she left the podcast, everybody.

[52:08] Ian: That's why I left the podcast, is for my So Emotional drama.

[52:14] Andrew: If you want the real tea, exactly.

[52:18] Ian: Wait, and just for Elijah's records, we are saying that's a pity vote, yeah?

[52:23] Andrew: Yes, it's a pity vote.

[52:25] Ian: Scientist wins.

[52:25] Andrew: Of course.

[52:26] Ian: Okay, okay, okay.

[52:27] Andrew: God, yeah.

[52:29] Ian: All right, going into the second and final.

[52:32] Andrew: Science in progress.

[52:37] Ian: Do not speak as loud as...

[52:39] Andrew: My heart.

[52:41] Ian: If you could tell by the lack of reaction.

[52:46] Andrew: I was like, no.

[52:46] Ian: This is going to be a fucking...

[52:46] Andrew: A song you're really excited about.

[52:48] Ian: Yeah, I was like, oh.

[52:49] Andrew: Is bitch still on here?

[52:51] Ian: Bitch is still here.

[52:53] Andrew: Is bitch's back still on here?

[52:55] Ian: Both bitches.

[52:57] Andrew: Can we have a bitch off?

[52:58] Ian: God, I want one.

[52:59] Andrew: If this is not a bitch off.

[53:01] Ian: Oh, then put it back.

[53:02] Andrew: You'll be bitching when you see what song it is, actually.

[53:05] Ian: Am I going to want to take a bathroom break or something?

[53:08] Andrew: No, it's a minute and four seconds.

[53:11] Ian: Oh, I can accomplish that.

[53:12] Andrew: Just kidding. Just kidding. I'm not doing that.

[53:17] Ian: I could do that. What I got to do. I'm going to need more than that.

[53:23] Andrew: All right.

[53:23] Ian: Oh, is this Mercy?

[53:25] Andrew: It is Mercy.

[53:26] Ian: Yeah, baby.

[53:27] Andrew: I'm not going to be bitching. I love this number.

[53:29] Ian: It's good, but I forgot it's here.

[53:31] Andrew: Okay.

[53:32] Ian: Oh, hell yeah.

[53:36] Andrew: God, Jesse St. James.

[53:38] Ian: I know he's always good.

[53:39] Andrew: He's particularly great in that number.

[53:42] Ian: Noah's happy.

[53:46] Andrew: He's so good.

[53:48] Ian: Damn, he really eats it up. I'm a German fun man.

[53:52] Andrew: So fun. Sick for Rehab and Mercy.

[53:59] Ian: This song is great. This song is not going anywhere in the glocken.

[54:06] Andrew: Yes, it is. Round five.

[54:09] Ian: No.

[54:12] Andrew: I feel crazy because obviously I was not really excited to watch this, but I'm like, no, it is good.

[54:20] Ian: I like also when they do like the neck choreography, where like the curls are like straddling and doing stunts around the boy's necks.

[54:32] Andrew: Like how are you still singing?

[54:34] Ian: Yeah.

[54:34] Andrew: That's shocking.

[54:36] Ian: It doesn't have any named characters.

[54:41] Andrew: Um, what are you talking about?

[54:42] Ian: Giselle.

[54:44] Andrew: Giselle!

[54:46] Ian: Miss Hayesha Monique Clark on this podcast. The girl who throws up in the trash can and says he's a monster.

[54:52] Andrew: Oh.

[54:53] Ian: And the girl that says we're sold as automatons. Both in this number.

[54:57] Andrew: That's Giselle.

[55:00] Ian: Eat your words, Allison Dodge.

[55:01] Andrew: Yeah, eat them. God damn it.

[55:03] Ian: Is this going to win the glocken? Like should we just cut our losses?

[55:07] Andrew: No, this is going to, this can go the distance.

[55:12] Ian: This is kind of crazy. This, okay, so it, funnily enough, this won against two Christmas songs in round one and round two. Round two it won against.

[55:19] Andrew: So that's why it's here.

[55:23] Ian: Round two it won against, uh, Welcome Christmas. But in round one, I'm surprised that it won against River.

[55:33] Andrew: Oh, that is odd. Who was on that episode?

[55:37] Ian: Oh, I wish I had a river. That was like one of our listeners. That's a Lena Canaster bit.

[55:42] Andrew: I really wish I had a river.

[55:43] Ian: Oh God. Oh, I wish I had a river right now.

[55:52] Andrew: I don't know what was going on.

[55:53] Ian: Yeah, that's kind of fucking crazy. Roll back the tapes. Just kidding. I'm never listening to any of those early episodes. Ever. I'm scared.

[56:00] Andrew: Yeah. I'm really scared to hear myself talk.

[56:02] Ian: Um, so yeah, that's what Mercy's doing here. These outfits they're wearing, fugly.

[56:10] Andrew: I would wear that to Pilates now.

[56:13] Ian: It's like this. And it is, I agree. This is an impasse.

[56:17] Andrew: This is an impasse.

[56:18] Ian: This is an impasse.

[56:19] Andrew: This is an impasse.

[56:20] Ian: This is an impasse.

[56:21] Andrew: I agree. This is an era of Glee where they're really doing show choir. They're not doing like pop stars masquerading as show choir. They're really doing show choir. And like, this is what your high school show choir was really wearing. And it was really bad.

[56:34] Ian: Yes.

[56:37] Andrew: The little fake skirts that aren't skirts over the set of those leggings.

[56:42] Ian: Yes.

[56:43] Andrew: I just really like the breakdown at the end. You got me begging you, uh, Jonathan Groff.

[56:48] Ian: Yeah.

[56:50] Andrew: Jonathan Groff before, Jesse, before he got in that accident and he had to get his face reconstructed.

[56:54] Ian: Right. You got me begging you.

[56:57] Andrew: That's him. I really don't have much more to say.

[57:01] Ian: That's crazy.

[57:03] Andrew: I love vocal adrenaline. I'm, this is, I'm, Alison is correct. It's going to lose. But I love vocal adrenaline. I love early vocal adrenaline. I think these just like crazily choreographed numbers are fun.

[57:21] Ian: And this episode is kind of a snooze, but this is one of the highlights of the episode besides bust my windows, which is clearly the.

[57:23] Andrew: Oh yeah. Bust my windows, bust yours. Bust my own. She took the car and she threw it through her own window. I'm so mad. I'm harming my own property.

[57:31] Ian: I bust the windows out my car.

[57:33] Andrew: Out my car. I do want to say that this and Rehab just feel like they, they really were committed.

[57:41] Ian: Sisters to me. They're sisters, of course. But, um, like they really love the light blue outfits and they really liked the jazzy UK singers, Amy Winehouse, Duffy.

[57:53] Andrew: Yeah. They're really, they're really, this is Duffy.

[57:57] Ian: Yeah. I am. If those two sisters, if, if I'm Meryl Streep and this is Sophie's choice and they say, one of these girls has got to go. Bye, Mercy.

[58:07] Andrew: I'm keeping Rehab.

[58:08] Ian: Oh, of course.

[58:08] Andrew: Oh God.

[58:09] Ian: Yeah.

[58:10] Andrew: Yeah.

[58:10] Ian: Is this the Duffy that you're talking about?

[58:12] Andrew: Yeah.

[58:14] Ian: Duffy bear, the mascot of Disney cruise lines wrote this song.

[58:20] Andrew: You'd never believe it.

[58:25] Ian: A long and illustrious career.

[58:35] Andrew: You could easily just pull that out of your ass to be like, is this the Duffy you're talking about?

[58:42] Ian: Oh God. I'm cracking up thinking about that fucking bear.

[59:06] Andrew: You got me begging you.

[59:10] Ian: You already know what this is.

[59:12] Andrew: Oh wow. I've had the time of my life.

[59:15] Ian: Girl, am I going to get in trouble if I say this is kind of a floppy flop?

[59:18] Andrew: Stop. You can, you can, uh...

[59:20] Ian: Stop be stop. We'll talk.

[59:24] Andrew: Okay. I thought I heard someone say before we watch this performance. That's a floppy flop.

[59:29] Ian: Don't make me laugh.

[59:34] Andrew: You're telling me. So season one, our competition start out with fucking drop. And faithfully. And then they're like, and you'll never believe what we have in store for this one. And it's this vanilla ass bullshit. I'm sorry. I like the Brevins. And there are moments of this song that like, I like it are charming, but you.

[1:00:30] Andrew: She sounds good on the final note, but I thought you were talking about the Santana-Mercedes ad libs, because Diana needs some help toward the end.

[1:00:39] Ian Allred: No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about Santana Sings Valerie, and it's like, okay, actually, this is one of the best numbers in the entire show, thank goodness. But when this is starting us out at sectionals, I am a little whelmed.

[1:00:54] Allison Dodge: Yeah. I'm a little whelmed.

[1:00:56] Ian Allred: The Timu Finchel, basically. And I think these are both talented singers. Cord is doing this like Justin Bieber-ass voice during this song, which I think is just kind of like how he was singing when he first got on the show. Because some of the songs that are a little more Justin Bieber-y, he sounds great on. And then obviously, over the course of the show, Cord overshoots a fantastic singer, a fantastic musician. He just is doing a vocal styling on this song that I do not like.

[1:01:30] Allison Dodge: He is very like, I've had the time of my life. It's so wide and airy. I need a little more closure there. I need a little more thickness in that sound. I really don't like it. I compared it to, and I'm going to give a shout out to another podcast, Time Mousheen. Just had Drew Seely on their podcast.

[1:01:54] Ian Allred: Oh, hey. This beginning of this part of Sam's arc gives Drew Seely, Zac Efron, High School Musical. It does not sound like him later. I know that it is him, but it's two, you're right, very different voice types. What are we doing here?

[1:02:20] Allison Dodge: Billionaire is weird. It sounds like two different people to me. And I wonder, and this is pure conjecture on my part, but I know Cord came from a country music family. So I wonder if it was like he was used to country music, and then he gets on the show where he's supposed to sing pop, and he's like, well, I guess this is what the pop sensibility is. And he overcorrected into what he thought was a poppier sound. Because he ends up landing in a very nice place. But I agree, the beginning of season two, some of the songs are not a hit for me.

[1:02:56] Ian Allred: And Cord Overstreet recently on a boat for New Year's Eve in St. Bart's with Alex Earl, Nina Dobrev, Miles Teller, and his wife, Glenn Powell. Random, what are Cord Overstreet and Alex Earl talking about on a boat for three days?

[1:03:17] Allison Dodge: We do not want to know.

[1:03:19] Ian Allred: I don't want to know. I want to say, I don't think it's bad. Like he's clearly talented.

[1:03:25] Allison Dodge: No, I'm not here defending. I just feel like the style, the choice of style is incorrect to what the song calls for.

[1:03:32] Ian Allred: Okay, no, but I understand what you're both saying. I think that I'm coming from the vantage point. There are certain songs on Glee that I just really enjoy, and I just like don't like actually thinking too hard about them. This is one of them. I'm like, don't ruin this for me. Stop.

[1:03:49] Allison Dodge: I enjoy it for what it is. If you point out that he says something weird, then I don't actually want to be aware of that fact. It's been this one has been a miss for me since 2010. I remember really live and being like, uh, no, this is fine. It's I do like when the curtain comes out and they're all like doing that little shuffle.

[1:04:12] Ian Allred: Skip jump.

[1:04:13] Allison Dodge: Yeah, I like that a lot. I think that's fun. It's very, very cute. And I like the New Jersey dance. Do you know about the New Jersey dance that they do?

[1:04:23] Ian Allred: Yeah, I think that's fun too. Something they do in New Jersey. You'll learn next week.

[1:04:28] Allison Dodge: I'm excited to learn next weekend when I'm in New Jersey. Everyone, you can't walk a block without running into someone doing that dance.

[1:04:37] Ian Allred: It's an epidemic. Don't mind him.

[1:04:39] Allison Dodge: I can't wait. You just said New Jersey. When in New Jersey, do as the New Jerseyans do.

[1:04:44] Ian Allred: We got to. I really like when they do like the little like finger thing too, where they like do like the little pull apart.

[1:04:51] Allison Dodge: Yes. Sometimes I just would do that in class. When I need to fidget.

[1:04:56] Ian Allred: You were paying homage.

[1:04:58] Allison Dodge: Yeah, I was doing the New Jersey or whatever.

[1:05:01] Ian Allred: That's not the New Jersey.

[1:05:06] Allison Dodge: I was doing the I've had a time of my life. I've had a time. I've had a time. I don't know if it was a great one. One of the times of my life is the one. This was part of my life now.

[1:05:19] Ian Allred: No, I like this. I mean, I don't think that it I didn't like think that it would make it to round four. But I guess I'm shocked to see both these girls here. I'm a little bit like this is this is a ringer like this is unfair.

[1:05:36] Allison Dodge: A ringer is probably the opposite of what I'm trying to say. But I don't even know what the hell a ringer is. What is a ringer?

[1:05:42] Ian Allred: A ringer is like you and I are going to play basketball for fun. And I have a friend who plays in the NBA. And I invite him to join my team. So I actually fully misuse the term. What I'm trying to say is this is fully a setup to get a song that's undeserving into round four. Because none of these songs should be in round four. So what the fuck is going on here?

[1:06:05] Allison Dodge: Here we go. Draw a third one. Let's just draw a third one. Let's have some fun. Whatever happened to having fun? Come on.

[1:06:14] Ian Allred: Uh, do you have anything final to say about this final song in the episode? I'm like, honestly, considering voting for Mercy, because I'm just upset that this song is going to make it to round four.

[1:06:23] Allison Dodge: I think you should. I think that's what you want to do. And I think that's what I want to do too.

[1:06:32] Ian Allred: Audio medium, what was the face you just made? Describe it to us.

[1:06:38] Allison Dodge: Describe it to us. Audio medium doesn't mean do it again.

[1:06:45] Ian Allred: Tongue out, eyes rolling to the back of my head. Feeling kind of crazy.

[1:06:50] Allison Dodge: Feeling kind of crazy. Well, you already know that I'm voting for I've Had the Time of My Life. What are y'all doing?

[1:06:57] Ian Allred: I'm going to vote for Mercy. So now it's going to be up to Jenna.

[1:07:01] Allison Dodge: Jenna? But then I also, I just see what Tina would vote for too. And so that's a whole other thing. So we have four votes.

[1:07:08] Ian Allred: Yeah, it's going to be a deadlock. I do want to shout out Rachel during the final Oz, looking mournfully at Finn. That does make me tickle.

[1:07:16] Allison Dodge: We had to have a little bit. Remember when we were the heterosexual couple in this group?

[1:07:26] Ian Allred: Remember when we came out in the aisles? Yeah, remember when we walked matching clothes? That was really cute.

[1:07:37] Allison Dodge: Um, god, I feel crazy. I know that like, what's going on?

[1:07:48] Ian Allred: Thinking about Rachel doing that voice. I'm so sorry, Ian.

[1:08:03] Allison Dodge: I mean, Jenna.

[1:08:04] Ian Allred: Oh, you're fine, babe. Please call me by my given name.

[1:08:10] Allison Dodge: Ian doesn't think this is funny at all.

[1:08:13] Ian Allred: No, because I'm under immense pressure right now. It's a stressful situation. You're making light of it.

[1:08:17] Allison Dodge: Oh, you don't think this is funny?

[1:08:19] Ian Allred: No!

[1:08:21] Allison Dodge: Remember when we used to do that? Okay, no, let's lock in.

[1:08:30] Ian Allred: Okay, I'm done. Done. Cut it out.

[1:08:32] Allison Dodge: I know. Cut it out. Cut it out.

[1:08:34] Ian Allred: Time of my life. Those are our kids on stage.

[1:08:41] Allison Dodge: Wait, I'm so sorry to interrupt you. Yes? I want to circle back to Allison. Sorry. Allison, why did you vote for- Wait, before you cast your vote, because I don't actually think that Allison means her vote. I think that she's being messy.

[1:09:00] Ian Allred: Messy for mercy.

[1:09:01] Allison Dodge: Messy for mercy! Messy for mercy! I am thinking of what I would put on my Spotify right now.

[1:09:05] Ian Allred: MP3?

[1:09:07] Allison Dodge: I would put on Mercy. If I was in a group of people and I needed to play a song that the group of people liked, I'm putting on Mercy. Here's the deal. I have streamed Mercy several times. I have not once streamed this cover of Time of My Life.

[1:09:24] Ian Allred: It is like-

[1:09:24] Allison Dodge: Not on purpose. Because those are our kids, and because it's for Brevins, and I do love for Brevins, yes, I understand, and it should hold more significance because these are actually the leads, whereas Mercy is fully a bunch of random people who never talk ever.

[1:09:40] Ian Allred: What I was fucking saying! But if I'm honest, I enjoyed watching Mercy more than I enjoyed watching this number. I don't like this number very much.

[1:09:53] Ian Allred: And so I do-

[1:09:53] Allison Dodge: Ian's angry! I do think, and I know everyone's gonna be mad about this, I think I'm voting Mercy. Mercy's got- Mercy is the better mp3. Mercy is the more exciting choreography. Mercy is a minute and four seconds long. Less time to fuck things up.

[1:10:16] Ian Allred: People are gonna be so mad.

[1:10:19] Allison Dodge: No, that is insane. Also, let's be real, Time of My Life wasn't gonna win the Glocket, and Mercy's also gonna get out next round, so whatever. This was a layup for whichever one went through.

[1:10:31] Ian Allred: Exactly. Time isn't real. Nothing is real. Have fun. This is all pretend. You're all Finn Hudson alone on the Kinley High stage. None of us are here right now. This is happening in your mind. Wake up, sheeple.

[1:10:46] Allison Dodge: Wake up! Brittany is wearing the worst dress. Worst goddamn outfit I've ever fucking seen. Her vocals? Stunning. Stunning. Progress.

[1:11:00] Ian Allred: Uh, I really can't believe that just happened. That's crazy. I mean, scientists!

[1:11:05] Allison Dodge: Pardon me, yes, scientists, but Mercy in round four. Mercy. Mercy in round four. I just want to bring up the fact that Rehab's still in this cup. I believe.

[1:11:13] Ian Allred: Yes, and Rehab deserves round four more than Mercy does, but Rehab wasn't set up against another clunker. Sorry, that's the way the cookie crumbles, babe.

[1:11:24] Allison Dodge: People are gonna be- Sometimes it's a floppy flop. This is-

[1:11:29] Ian Allred: Well, you know what? I didn't get hate for so emotional, so you can hate me for Mercy, okay?

[1:11:33] Allison Dodge: I wanted to come in here, and I wanted to make my mark on this fucking glacket, okay?

[1:11:37] Ian Allred: Yeah, of course. You did. You pissed all over it.

[1:11:40] Allison Dodge: I pissed all over this, and I made this glacket mine. Recap for this episode. Wow. This is crazy.

[1:11:47] Ian Allred: Oh, yeah. I mean, it's only half crazy. The first one made a lot of sense.

[1:11:53] Allison Dodge: Yeah. No, but it's like so emotional. I just think similarly to the history that Love Song has had on the glacket, that the fact that Love Song is now out, now so emotional, another song that had a long history of coming back, it's now out as well.

[1:12:12] Ian Allred: Maybe I was right in the first place. Why didn't we put those songs out on there? Fuck yes!

[1:12:17] Allison Dodge: Yeah, when we three plus Lena kicked Love Song out in round two, it should have stayed out, I guess.

[1:12:25] Ian Allred: Exactly. Interesting. Interesting. And look at all the good that did us to vote it back in.

[1:12:31] Allison Dodge: Exactly. I know, just to come back in and be like, actually, get the fuck out! Actually, we voted right the first time! We've already done this! Get out! God damn it.

[1:12:40] Ian Allred: Hey, guys, I'm back in the party! Know when you need to leave! Get the fuck out! What the hell? Know when it's time to go home. Know when it's time to call the Uber. Know when you're not wanted, okay?

[1:12:51] Allison Dodge: Exactly. God damn. If you get kicked out, don't come back in.

[1:12:55] Ian Allred: Don't. Exactly. I'm doing my rehab song. I'm feeling so emotional. I'm feeling so, so, so emotional now that you're gone!

[1:13:11] Allison Dodge: The scientist?

[1:13:16] Ian Allred: Oh, I don't know. What would the scientist joke be? Scientist, you're cooking up something great in the lab, and you're going to see round four.

[1:13:26] Allison Dodge: Stay in the lab.

[1:13:28] Ian Allred: Stay in the lab a little bit. Cook us up something good?

[1:13:32] Allison Dodge: Yeah, make us some more hypotheses.

[1:13:35] Ian Allred: Yeah, mama. Yum, yum, yum, yum, I love hypotheses. Um, mercy.

[1:13:40] Allison Dodge: Um, you don't need to be begging for mercy, baby. You made it to round four.

[1:13:46] Ian Allred: Yes, finally! And everyone cheered!

[1:13:49] Allison Dodge: And everyone cheered! They're screaming and crying in the streets. Literally, world peace. I've had the time of my death.

[1:13:59] Ian Allred: In hell.

[1:14:00] Allison Dodge: In hell! Burn. Bye, bitch. Shame.

[1:14:05] Ian Allred: Oh my gosh. Goodbye. Well, thank you so much. This was good. Allison, I didn't even ask you if you had a time constraint, which I usually do with you.

[1:14:13] Allison Dodge: No, I don't. I don't, actually. I don't have to leave for another hour and a half, so that means I get to shower before I leave.

[1:14:20] Ian Allred: Let's pull two more. Let's go. Let's pull two more. Come on. Let's record another episode. Let's keep it going. You only did one, but Jenna only did one with Heather, so let's get back on track.

[1:14:27] Allison Dodge: Yeah. Make it up now. Okay, does anybody have anything to plug? I know, Allison, you usually don't, but do you?

[1:14:35] Allison Dodge: Hey, because I know what Jenna's going to plug, and I know what Andrew's going to plug, I'm going to plug our friends Skip or Scream.

[1:14:45] Ian Allred: Oh, yes.

[1:14:45] Allison Dodge: Listen to Skip or Scream, listen to Time Moushine, and give them big kisses and say that Allison sent you, because I did, and I love them, and I love them big kiss. You were just on and off of them.

[1:14:57] Ian Allred: Almost as much as I love this podcast itself.

[1:15:01] Allison Dodge: I was just on a Skip or Scream episode. It was super fun.

[1:15:03] Ian Allred: You did Scream.

[1:15:05] Allison Dodge: I did Begonia. Yeah, it was really cute and fun. And Allison, what are your thoughts on Scream?

[1:15:11] Allison Dodge: Scream is my favorite movie of all time. And that's on taste.

[1:15:16] Ian Allred: Exactly. So great. It was very, very fun. Great flick. Maggie, if you're still listening, big kiss, mama. Big kiss. Big kiss.

[1:15:29] Jenna Ushkowitz: If any of you have a subscription to Peacock streaming service, I implore you to watch Smash.

[1:15:37] Ian Allred: That's your plug.

[1:15:45] Jenna Ushkowitz: It will change your life. Drink to that. It will give you hope. I hear this is a freaking weekend. I mean, it is just maybe the worst show ever made, but also maybe the best show ever made. It fills me with such joy. I really love it.

[1:16:04] Ian Allred: Are they ever going to make a stage?

[1:16:06] Jenna Ushkowitz: They did, and it was so bad.

[1:16:09] Ian Allred: Oh, they did, and it was bad. Because here's what's fucking crazy, is that Smash is about them creating a musical about Marilyn Monroe. And for years, people were like, hey, that musical actually looked really good. Could we have that on Broadway? Thank you, Marilyn. What Universal heard was, oh, you want us to make a musical adaptation of the plot of the TV show? And everyone was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. We want to see the show within the show. And they were like, no, what we're going to make is a musical adaptation of the TV show that famously was so poorly written that it got canceled after two seasons. And then they put it on Broadway, and it was fucking awful, and it closed after four months. And I saw it.

[1:16:46] Ian Allred: You saw it?

[1:16:47] Jenna Ushkowitz: I did. Yeah. And it was bad. Very talented cast, very bad show.

[1:16:53] Ian Allred: Dang. Crazy. Somewhere in my notes, I have a laundry list of all of my criticisms with that show. It was absolutely bananas, bonkers, the decisions they made when writing that show. Houston vocals better on stage as opposed to...

[1:17:08] Jenna Ushkowitz: Well, famously, they got Angelica Houston to reprise her role.

[1:17:11] Ian Allred: Right, I would imagine, yes.

[1:17:12] Jenna Ushkowitz: No, they like... It's so confusing. The stage musical is like 15% inspired by the TV show, and like 85% then just like making up random shit.

[1:17:28] Ian Allred: Yeah.

[1:17:28] Jenna Ushkowitz: So like Ivy and Karen are both characters, but the characters are completely different people. They're just named Ivy and Karen. And the Angelica Houston character is, I think, a gay man instead of Oscar award winner Angelica Houston. Like it's wildly different and wildly confusing.

[1:17:51] Ian Allred: And then also, I mean, you can always... I, Jenna Ushkowitz, have a podcast, my friend Kevin McHale, but you've already heard of it. So I'm going to plug a little independent podcast that I, Jenna Ushkowitz, am a big fan of, and I, Jenna Ushkowitz, listen to all the time, which is Slay! A Queer Buffy Podcast, which is a recap podcast about the TV show, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, a wonderful, fantastic show. If you're a fan of horror, if you're a fan of camp, if you're a fan of teen dramas, if you're gay, you should be watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer. And there we go. Love it.

[1:18:28] Allison Dodge: One of the best shows ever written. Thank you so much. They announced that Emmy, the Retroactive Emmy Awards, you know this?

[1:18:35] Ian Allred: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:18:35] Allison Dodge: That they were like a legacy Emmy, and my first thought was Buffy is going to win an Emmy, and I'm not fucking kidding.

[1:18:41] Ian Allred: No. Really?

[1:18:42] Allison Dodge: People are saying Glee as well.

[1:18:44] Ian Allred: People are saying Glee, maybe. Now, here's what no one is understanding. There are college courses on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. There have been books written about Buffy the Vampire Slayer. There are articles written by professional TV critics who have said the reason we are in a golden age of television is because of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It genuinely changed the face of television in such a major way, and she's gonna get that Emmy, bitch! It's her time!

[1:19:14] Ian Allred: Did she get Emmys first time around?

[1:19:18] Allison Dodge: I think she didn't get any Emmys while she was on, but if I remember, when Buffy ended, people were so up in arms that it didn't get any Emmy nods the whole time it was on the air that the Emmys did a special in-remembrance, in honor of Banquet for Buffy as a TV show because they had to own up to the fact that we really should have recognized this TV show, and we didn't.

[1:19:46] Ian Allred: Yeah. Damn, and now they're gonna get that.

[1:19:49] Allison Dodge: And now Buffy's gonna get that Emmy! Goddamn. Um, and then-

[1:19:54] Ian Allred: Is that gonna be people voted?

[1:19:57] Allison Dodge: Oh yeah, who is voting on that? Doubt it. I thought- I don't know, like, how the nominations for that work. I'm interested to see. I'll be standing by.

[1:20:07] Ian Allred: Standing by. Um, and then also, another 10 songs are out of the freaking blacket. You know what that means. One of these babies can get voted back in, and so, of course, those songs include Crush, Love You Like a Love Song, We Are Young, On My Own, Endless Love, Jessie's Girl, Love Song, I Dreamed a Dream, So Emotional, and I've Had the Time of My Life.

[1:20:40] Allison Dodge: Wow, so people could bring Jessie's Girl back.

[1:20:43] Ian Allred: Yeah. There's no folo representation.

[1:20:46] Allison Dodge: Yeah. You do whatever you want, Gleeks, as long as it's voting for Jessie's Girl.

[1:20:52] Ian Allred: And there we go. Um-

[1:20:54] Allison Dodge: That's it. That's-

[1:20:56] Ian Allred: That's the episode.

[1:20:57] Allison Dodge: Okay. Thanks, everyone. Big kiss!

[1:21:00] Ian Allred: Bye, Jenna!

[1:21:01] Jenna Ushkowitz: Goodbye!

[1:21:02] Ian Allred: Bye!

[1:21:03] Allison Dodge: Bye, Andrew!

[1:21:06] Ian Allred: It's Gleek.

[1:21:07] Allison Dodge: Gleek of the Week.