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[0:00] Andrew: We've got a mission to find the best song that's ever been on Glee. There's no rhyme or reason to it, so don't get mad at me. Glacket by Glacket, we'll rank everyone to see which song will move closer to spot number one. Gleek of the Week, Gleek, Gleek, Gleek of the Week. It's Gleek, Gleek of the Week. Wow! Okay, wait! You know what this episode is? It's episode 150 of doing the Glacket. And, um, I mean, that doesn't include all of those Glee Project recaps or special bonus episodes, but 150 nonetheless. And, um, I do have a very special panel of Gleeks this week, but we will be- and this is a celebration of 150, but there will be, um, a very special guest. Not to diminish- oh my gosh, I'm digging myself into a hole.

Not to diminish, um, today's guest, but there is a very special- oh, Matt left. Oh, reveal of who the guest is. Um, there is a very special guest next week. Um, and I guess you're gonna have to stay tuned, but you don't have to stay tuned to find out who this week's guests are. Um, they're already really mad at me because of that intro. Uh, okay. So, first of all, he just left and he just came back. It's Matt. Hi!

[1:39] Matt: Hi, and I'll do it again if I'm still not the most special guest that we could possibly have here.

[1:44] Andrew: Listen.

[1:45] Matt: Yes.

[1:46] Andrew: We're doing- this is- you're on the 150th episode, okay? That's still-

[1:50] Matt: Do you think-

[1:51] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:52] Matt: Did you think about that ahead of time or, like, you thought about it today? You were like, oh, I should have gotten better people for the, uh, 150th.

[1:57] Andrew: No, okay. Truthfully, I tried to schedule- because obviously I did want both of you, whoever this other mystery panelist is-

[2:06] Claudia: This is, like, the first time I haven't spoken before being introduced.

[2:08] Andrew: Oh, wow.

[2:09] Claudia: Um, I tried to schedule especially, uh, for the 150th, um, but schedule-

[2:18] Matt: You just stuck with us.

[2:20] Andrew: I'm just stuck.

[2:20] Claudia: Are you kidding me?

[2:21] Andrew: But we just happened to say yes.

[2:23] Claudia: Why would you tell us this?

[2:25] Andrew: I don't know why I did that. I'm really, really sorry, actually.

[2:28] Claudia: Oh, that's so nice. You know that song, Honesty, by the Glee cast? It's, uh, yeah.

[2:32] Matt: By the Glee cast first.

[2:34] Claudia: Yeah.

[2:34] Andrew: Which, still neglect it. Also, wait. Let's formally introduce- Who hell is here? I don't know.

[2:40] Claudia: Who- who is that voice? Who are you?

[2:44] Matt: Me?

[2:45] Claudia: Yeah.

[2:45] Matt: I'm introducing myself?

[2:47] Claudia: I think that's a- I think that's a fun bit.

[2:49] Matt: I was thinking, actually, I've had this thought a few times of, like, what if my voice was the first and I introduced you?

[2:56] Claudia: Oh.

[2:57] Matt: We could just start this all over for, um, episode 150.

[3:00] Andrew: Um, no. I guess I've been given literally zero respect, but my name is Claudia. It's great to be here.

[3:05] Claudia: Um, I guess.

[3:08] Andrew: I think you have been on the guest- you have been on this podcast before, right? If I'm not mistaken.

[3:13] Claudia: Yeah, maybe- maybe- maybe a couple times in a row, even.

[3:16] Andrew: And this might be the last after the way that we've been treated to.

[3:18] Claudia: Yeah, it seems like it.

[3:19] Andrew: I feel so bad.

[3:21] Claudia: Listen, I'm excited to be here with Matt. Matt's a Gleek of the Week, um, celeb to me. So I'm feeling really excited to be here.

[3:27] Matt: At least we have each other.

[3:28] Claudia: Exactly.

[3:29] Andrew: All right. So I see how this is going to happen. Uh, do we want to-

[3:33] Claudia: You- you did this.

[3:34] Matt: I did this. I-

[3:35] Andrew: Yeah.

[3:36] Claudia: I mean, look, Andrew, you'll be lucky if this was the worst crime you committed in the last little bit, uh, that we're going to get into today.

[3:43] Andrew: Oh, I mean, okay. All right. Okay.

[3:45] Claudia: You want to take over hosting responsibility? Because that was a great segue.

[3:48] Andrew: Do you want to- do you want to-

[3:49] Claudia: Sorry, I've been podcasting all day. I got it. I got it in my- I got it in my blood right now.

[3:54] Andrew: All right. Go ahead.

[3:55] Claudia: Were you hanging on this?

[3:57] Andrew: Um, because I did. I did actually- it- this was very purposeful, um, to- to combine you two together, um, because of a shared opinion. Um, do you-

[4:09] Claudia: Got one of them.

[4:10] Andrew: Do you want to, uh, explain what that opinion is?

[4:15] Claudia: Look, I don't even know where to start. This is like-

[4:17] Matt: It's too much.

[4:18] Claudia: It's crazy because- so this is a podcast where Andrew goes through six songs at a time, tries to determine the best song on Glee. We're going to go through multiple rounds and try to determine that. And at the beginning of all these episodes, if you're- if you're new here, a guest will come in and give their grievances about previous matchups that have happened, uh, that may- they may not like the result. Um, and, you know, usually it's a good song that goes home versus- I don't know, like, there's been plenty of songs that have gone home that shouldn't have gone home. Um, but to have what has happened as of late here-

[4:54] Matt: It's not okay.

[4:55] Claudia: Leak of the week. Um, to have what, by all accounts, by many, many accounts, by my account, could have been the winner, I think by- by multiple of our accounts, could have been the winner of the entire damn glacket, just be sent on its way. Let me just say this up front. I did not finish that episode. I did not even attempt to finish that episode.

[5:19] Matt: Oh, actually, same.

[5:21] Claudia: Yeah, no, I heard the songs pulled and I said-

[5:23] Matt: I wonder if that still counts as a stream.

[5:26] Claudia: Okay, continue.

[5:26] Claudia: It does. I'm not allowing myself to feel this pain that three other people are going to inflict upon me on a random Tuesday night. So, I know what happened.

[5:35] Matt: You don't deserve that.

[5:36] Claudia: Can I- can I ask Barbara Walters' hat on right now? What was the moment that you- you turned off the phone? That you turned off listening?

[5:48] Matt: So, I may have had a bit of a warning that this was coming up, uh, that this was a matchup that I would be unhappy with, probably. And I said, as I was listening to that episode, I said, I'm going to give it a chance. I'm going to hear them out and what they have to say. And then as soon as the song was pulled, I said, no, I can't do this. It was that moment.

[6:11] Claudia: Because you knew which way it was going to go? Oh, because of the- because of the foreshadowing, the information that I let you know ahead of time.

[6:19] Matt: Because I essentially felt, um, I guess spoiled on the results because, um, there wouldn't have been such a big reaction if not for the results that ended up happening.

[6:30] Claudia: Yeah.

[6:30] Andrew: Okay, wait, wait, wait. Have we even said what-

[6:33] Claudia: Nobody needs to say it. Everyone knows.

[6:36] Andrew: Okay, uh, they're talking about-

[6:38] Claudia: We don't talk about her. I can't talk about her.

[6:41] Andrew: Competition number one of the Glackett. We're talking about, um, you can't- you- you can't touch this versus Here Comes Santa Claus. Yes.

[6:49] Claudia: Here Comes Santa Claus is a great number.

[6:50] Matt: Here Comes Santa Claus still yet to be pulled in round two.

[6:54] Claudia: Ooh.

[6:55] Andrew: Um, so we're talking obviously about Mine versus To Serve With Love.

[7:01] Claudia: Mindgate.

[7:02] Matt: Mindgate. That's a good one. That's a good title of that. We still have time to go.

[7:07] Claudia: Um, it's a good one.

[7:08] Matt: I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good with this sometimes.

[7:10] Claudia: Sometimes.

[7:11] Andrew: I'm going to do my back pocket.

[7:14] Claudia: All right. Um, Claudia, do you want to say your piece about Mindgate?

[7:18] Claudia: Yeah, it's fucking fucked up. It's fucked up.

[7:20] Matt: Say it again. Louder and over and over.

[7:24] Claudia: There was a second where I was like, I don't- I didn't finish- I listened to both songs. I listened to a bit of the discourse, but I also turned it off because I was like, don't piss me off. Like, just don't piss me off right now. When I kind of figured which way it was going.

[7:40] Matt: Um, there was like maybe a split second where I could kind of be like, yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's like, it's a special song.

[7:49] Claudia: It's a special season one moment, but I'm like, no, no, fuck no, no, it's mine. It's like, have you- have you seen it? Andrew, have you ever seen that performance? Did you ever watch that? Have you heard it? Did you have your-

[8:00] Andrew: Of course.

[8:02] Claudia: I don't know. I think-

[8:02] Andrew: You're letting me take out my headphones during a performance.

[8:06] Claudia: I'm sure that I actually have done that, but-

[8:08] Andrew: You should.

[8:09] Claudia: I think I actually did log off after, like-

[8:14] Andrew: No, this is not true. Sorry. I was listening to Bri and Emily's episode, like, yesterday. I was kind of late to the game. And one of them was talking about how, like, to serve with love, yeah, it's a sad, like, feeling of ending from season one. But we have five more seasons of that. And we have five more, like, finales like that, where, like, that is not enough of a reason for it to have that much sentimental value. Like, it's cute, it's sweet, it's a good, like, whatever. But for-

[8:42] Matt: I don't know what list- like, what ranking on your Santolo list this would be, Matt.

[8:48] Matt: Is it your number one?

[8:49] Claudia: It's number one.

[8:50] Matt: It's-

[8:50] Claudia: Number one.

[8:51] Matt: It's my number two Glee cover of all time. And it could be my number one. I just have stuck to my number one for all this time. And I, you know, possibly just leave up there.

[9:00] Claudia: Yeah, okay.

[9:01] Matt: But it easily- like, honestly, if, like, today, right now, especially given the way that I'm feeling right now, if you told me I could only have one Glee cover for the rest of my life, and it's probably that. Just because I don't want to lose it. And now we're here in a world where, unless, you know, a vote happens, that she's gone?

[9:22] Claudia: A lot like-

[9:23] Matt: No, I haven't seen enough Survivor.

[9:24] Claudia: That's okay.

[9:25] Matt: You can try.

[9:28] Claudia: A lot of things to do with votes and people leaving.

[9:32] Matt: Oh yeah, there's been plenty of-

[9:33] Claudia: Connected to that show, I've heard.

[9:35] Matt: Emotional moments there.

[9:36] Claudia: Yeah, absolutely.

[9:38] Andrew: This is not good, Andrew. You've done a bad thing.

[9:41] Claudia: I've done a bad thing.

[9:41] Matt: A really bad, really bad thing.

[9:43] Claudia: I've done a really, really bad thing.

[9:46] Andrew: I hope that this is in jest.

[9:48] Claudia: I sincerely hope so.

[9:50] Matt: My biggest fear-

[9:51] Claudia: Look at him.

[9:54] Andrew: Audio medium, he is- he's muted himself and he's screaming. And he's going around his room, kicking everything over. It's really scary.

[10:02] Claudia: No, it is wild. I really hope that nobody actually gets angry.

[10:10] Andrew: Here's the thing. I actually think he is angry.

[10:14] Claudia: Actually gets angry slash actually get upset.

[10:17] Matt: I'm not going to say I'm not, but that's because we care.

[10:21] Claudia: That's because I care, you know?

[10:23] Matt: It's for a reason.

[10:24] Andrew: This whole project exists for a reason because we all care. We're all invested. If I was just like, eh, it's fine. What's the point of even being here?

[10:32] Claudia: Wait, Matt, I'm curious because you've borrowed this kind of format for your own-

[10:40] Matt: Stole, even, yeah.

[10:42] Claudia: You came into my house and you stole the Glackett from me.

[10:49] Matt: I'm sure that people have been upset about certain-

[10:52] Claudia: No one's been upset yet?

[10:53] Matt: Not yet.

[10:55] Claudia: To a small extent, of course.

[10:55] Matt: To give context, the big brother, right?

[10:58] Claudia: Yes, I'm doing a big brother bracket alongside Iman. May have heard of him.

[11:03] Matt: So far, we are only 10, 11, 12 episodes in, but we're in round one. We can all think of one competition in round one of Week of the Week that was the competition that was like, oh my God, what's happening here? But even still, not to that extent. With this, we're in round two. It's a different level.

[11:23] Claudia: That's the thing. I know this is coming for us somewhere down the line, and I don't envy us to be in the position that you're in right now, but yes, I care.

[11:32] Matt: Okay. Great. I also was going to say, thankfully for you and for me, Songbird is my number one Glee song and my number one Santolo, and she's okay, and you did the right thing there. So we're like-

[11:44] Claudia: I did do the right thing. Thank you.

[11:47] Matt: We're okay there. But you know where Alfie is?

[11:50] Claudia: Gone.

[11:51] Matt: With round one.

[11:52] Claudia: Where does Alfie rank for you, Claudia?

[11:56] Claudia: Not that high. I don't know. I don't really have a reason. I think it's because I forget that it exists.

[12:01] Matt: It's beautiful.

[12:01] Claudia: I just watched that episode recently, and it's beautiful, and that episode is beautiful, but I think it's because I don't understand. I don't know anything about the original song, so I was just like, who is Alfie?

[12:11] Matt: Honestly, I think you and I have the exact opposites on Songbird and Alfie.

[12:15] Claudia: Interesting.

[12:16] Matt: Yeah.

[12:16] Claudia: Interesting.

[12:17] Matt: I don't even-

[12:18] Claudia: We agree on mine.

[12:20] Matt: Yes, we do.

[12:21] Claudia: Santolo discourse.

[12:21] Matt: Mine is ours.

[12:24] Claudia: Santolo discourse.

[12:24] Matt: Ours.

[12:26] Claudia: Wait, what did I say? Mine is ours.

[12:28] Matt: It's ours.

[12:30] Claudia: Okay, any further notes about Mindgate that we need to unpack?

[12:36] Matt: What is there? How many episodes left between now and the vote? Like two, three, four?

[12:40] Andrew: I can tell you. Do you want me to tell you? I can tell you. Am I allowed to- well, while you tell me, just loudly, loudly advocate. If anyone thinks about voting for anything else, you're also dead to me.

[12:51] Claudia: I think that I've seen in the group chat that they're banding together, that they're putting all of their differences aside. And they're saying, hey, mine really needs this right now.

[13:04] Andrew: So after this episode, there will be three more episodes.

[13:08] Claudia: That's a lot of time.

[13:10] Matt: Yeah, but we're going to make this happen.

[13:13] Claudia: Look, it's just crazy how a panel-

[13:13] Andrew: We're going to make it now.

[13:15] Claudia: Right. It's crazy how different panels can cause different outcomes.

[13:20] Andrew: Breaking news.

[13:21] Claudia: Because looking at this panel right here, Mark goes through no problem. It would have happened differently.

[13:25] Matt: Yeah, there's no way.

[13:26] Claudia: This is crazy.

[13:29] Matt: Mark Wahlberg, he said that if he was bringing up 9-11, if he was on the plane, it would have went down differently.

[13:33] Claudia: Yeah, he says, Christ!

[13:40] Andrew: Okay, on that note, is there any other black travesties?

[13:50] Claudia: I'm upset now that I can't even think that anything else will come back because it has to be mine. So I'm like worried about today like that puts more pressure on us.

[13:59] Matt: Right. Not even for me because I don't I mean...

[14:02] Claudia: You just don't care.

[14:03] Matt: I'm just thinking about... Bohemian Rhapsody could come up today. I know it's already through, but it could come up today. It could be like one more time. Let's do it again. Let's try once more. Here's the thing. I'm still thinking about like barely breathing Gate, frankly, like...

[14:17] Claudia: It's tough.

[14:17] Matt: And Eduardo like brought out the pitchfork like I was about to be crucified.

[14:22] Claudia: Eduardo made campaign posters.

[14:25] Matt: Yeah. On barely breathing's behalf. Yeah. And I got it. I also loved it. But yeah, I just don't want something like that to happen again. But I am sad to say that that We've Got Tonight isn't coming back and was voted out because that's one of my favorites. But yeah, it's...

[14:42] Claudia: Who got her?

[14:42] Matt: Staying Gone.

[14:43] Claudia: That was...

[14:43] Matt: Staying Gone.

[14:44] Claudia: Oh.

[14:44] Matt: I think I had a similar... I think it was Brie who was like speaking all of my truths in the last episode. Yeah. I also agree with Brie with what I thought that I Love New York, New York was a original song.

[15:00] Claudia: Original song.

[15:01] Matt: I thought it was so bad.

[15:02] Claudia: I would have answered that yes as well.

[15:04] Matt: I like had talked to people about how like this really stupidly song where they just...

[15:11] Claudia: They sewed it in.

[15:12] Matt: Rhyming mad with sad with glad. Like you can't be... We can't be doing that.

[15:17] Claudia: Right.

[15:18] Matt: I don't know.

[15:18] Claudia: Yeah. Dork in New York. Yeah, it's not...

[15:20] Matt: Dork in New York. I mean, that writes itself. Come on.

[15:23] Claudia: Dork in New York is actually kind of iconic.

[15:25] Matt: Yeah, that's kind of... I can let that part slide. But yeah, I felt aligned with those ladies. Matt, is there anything else? Or is it just Mindgate that's really pulling so much precedence?

[15:37] Matt: Yeah, like as I was looking at the list of anything that's happened since I was last on, I wrote a couple down. And then I said, none of these matter. Nothing is important besides mine. Like I was like, suddenly Seymour, sad to see it go. But...

[15:51] Claudia: Not that sad.

[15:52] Matt: That's it. You guys gave too much love to Starships.

[15:56] Claudia: Sorry about that.

[15:57] Matt: I mean, but it died. It was like kind of a nice eulogy.

[16:01] Claudia: You still gave too much love to Starships.

[16:03] Matt: Starships killed without you, which was honestly like was kind of a closer fight, actually. I probably would have gone Starships, frankly, because it's silly and funny, and I don't care for without you that much.

[16:14] Claudia: Oh, yeah.

[16:17] Matt: Even with higher than any other?

[16:17] Claudia: I think it's funny.

[16:19] Matt: Yeah. Can we just have some fun?

[16:21] Claudia: I've never laughed in my life. No.

[16:22] Matt: I see how this is happening.

[16:25] Claudia: Do I look like I'm looking for comedy?

[16:26] Matt: Oh God.

[16:26] Claudia: I have one more. I am looking for comedy, as always. And I was sad that You're the Top got sent home. So it couldn't like go head to head with Crush. That would have been really fun.

[16:36] Matt: Oh, that would have been really, oh, that would have been so fun.

[16:40] Claudia: Yeah. Wait, how do we feel about You're the Top? I just like I'm desperate for more discourse about You're the Top. Do we?

[16:47] Matt: I forget that it exists. And I was so delighted to hear it. No, I was really delighted to hear it. It's fun.

[16:53] Claudia: I have a weird brain condition where anytime I want to think about Jeff, like I think about this person, this man who's in Jurassic Park and these movies and these shows, and I can't think of the name Jeff Goldblum, like it happens to me. Anytime I want to like, just recall him in my memory, which is more often than you might think, every single time it takes me a while to figure out his name. So that's important to me. That carries some weight. Yeah, all of it.

[17:17] Matt: If you put a water gun to my head right now and said, say one line from You're the Top, I would have water on my face.

[17:25] Claudia: It's, I'm the bottom.

[17:28] Matt: Claudia sent me a screen recording of me saying, I'm the bottom.

[17:40] Claudia: I'm the bottom is also kind of a good front runner for title of that is good.

[17:46] Matt: That's good.

[17:46] Claudia: I texted Andrew. I said, I have an audio recording of you saying you're the bottom. And he said, I'm a bottom or I'm the bottom, which I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say anything further on that, actually.

[17:59] Matt: I feel like that would have been your, your Born This Way shirt.

[18:04] Claudia: I literally saw at Rockaway Beach, Andrew, I saw a plane with a message in the sky, and it said, Andrew is the bottom.

[18:15] Matt: Oh, okay.

[18:17] Claudia: What was the I understand the Glee reference. Because New York, I don't know, because I go to Rockaway Beach, I don't know.

[18:22] Matt: The Rockaway Beach plug. Okay.

[18:24] Claudia: Yeah, just guys, I'm here. I'm in the season four, season five. I got to go to New York. Do we have any manifestations for today's episode?

[18:38] Matt: Just you being on your best behavior, because you can't trust that it's not gonna happen.

[18:43] Claudia: I went through the like songs yet to be pulled and I wrote down a few in my journal as that's where I have to have my glacket in my personal diary. Audio medium, it's my journal.

[18:56] Matt: Thanks. I want natural woman.

[18:59] Claudia: Okay, especially because there was some shit talked about it last episode.

[19:04] Matt: Oh, not by me. Okay. Yeah, not by you. And I was like, that's, that's my number one. And then I tried to do the mer solo exercise. And it was I couldn't do it.

[19:14] Claudia: You had to tap out.

[19:15] Matt: Yeah, well, I wasn't even listening. I was just trying to like think if I could rank them. So I guess it wasn't the exercise. I was being lazy. Fine. I'll admit it.

[19:21] Claudia: Yeah, you have to drive to a major city, a major US city while also listening. That's, yeah, that's how you do these.

[19:29] Matt: Okay, so we just want best behavior on my behalf. Natural woman, anything else?

[19:36] Claudia: I have. I mean, I have more of the stuff in the playlist. I would can't believe the way that you guys manifested Rocky Horror and musicals and what else?

[19:45] Matt: Last last episode, you manifested a bunch of things. It was very impressive to me.

[19:49] Claudia: Or things that were just relevant to them. But you know, that happens like every 10 episodes.

[19:53] Matt: Yeah, I will manifest. Oh, I'm sorry.

[19:56] Claudia: Oh, no, I was just gonna say, I think also for our sake, a Santolo to guarantee safe passage. That's one of the things I was thinking to get at least one back in the mix there.

[20:07] Matt: Or also maybe just if there's any breakup songs left to make up for you taking one out.

[20:13] Claudia: I don't think that there is. I'm trying to think. Okay, so like we have worse. Give Your Heart a Break, which was famously out in round one. Barely Breathing, which has already been pulled. Teenage Dream already been pulled. Don't Speak out in round one. Mine.

[20:33] Matt: Also, I think mine was voted out. Right?

[20:39] Claudia: You took your naughty pills today.

[20:41] Matt: Matt left again.

[20:44] Claudia: And the scientists also going through. Scientists confirmed.

[20:50] Matt: So actually, what I'm manifesting is the start of round three today instead. Let's just start it. Let's just get into it.

[20:56] Claudia: Okay, we ready for the first poll?

[20:58] Matt: Yeah, ready as we'll ever be.

[21:00] Claudia: It's like a cheese pull. Are you ready? Look at this poll.

[21:02] Matt: Oh, wow.

[21:03] Claudia: Wow, that's a good one.

[21:04] Matt: Oh, wait, actually, those papers are so long.

[21:07] Claudia: Well, I was like, I remember when I did this originally, I was like, do I cut them to fit, you know, like the length of the song? But then this one is only three letters.

[21:18] Matt: So it's going to be like a little, you know, a little thing.

[21:22] Claudia: Wait, what?

[21:23] Matt: Three letters.

[21:24] Claudia: Three letters.

[21:27] Matt: And I said it was a good song, but it's actually quite the opposite.

[21:31] Claudia: I got excited hearing the number three, and I thought that that's what it was.

[21:35] Matt: Oh, then my excitement faded, but I don't know.

[21:40] Claudia: Cat. I said that it's a good song, but it's not actually bad.

[21:48] Matt: Okay, got it.

[21:49] Claudia: Okay, all right.

[21:51] Matt: It's a bad song for today.

[22:21] ♪ Musical number: "Bad" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[23:47] Claudia: I almost feel like I can't look at this episode, this song in the same way anymore.

[23:52] Matt: I feel the same exact way.

[23:55] Claudia: Are you going to say it based on things that Kevin and Jenna have talked about and whatnot?

[23:58] Matt: Yeah.

[23:59] Claudia: Yeah. Just hearing about these shoots and whatnot and everything that was untold on that podcast regarding this time frame in the show. I'm just like, who are you people? And I also think, like, Lea Michele was on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen. And she, like, talked about this shoot as well there.

[24:23] Matt: That she was like, it was the Michael Jackson episode. I think that she said, like, that was the hardest episode that they've ever done or like the worst or something.

[24:30] Claudia: But she was like, there was a moment that we were shooting in a parking garage and me and Amber were just like, we're leaving. And then we did. And so it's, yeah, there's too much.

[24:44] Matt: There's a lot of drama attached to this.

[24:46] Claudia: I don't see why. It seems not to be a pleasant place to hang out in for three minutes of singing a Michael Jackson song, let alone the several hours it would take to sing that same Michael Jackson song over and over and over again.

[25:01] Matt: 30, a dancer?

[25:03] Claudia: Like 30, like wild.

[25:05] Matt: Yeah, bad.

[25:07] Claudia: Didn't mean to do that.

[25:07] Matt: I mean, look, the vocals are vocaling, you know, it's it's they pick, obviously, already Santana and Blaine for a lot of vocal feature in this episode for good reason.

[25:19] Claudia: This is the same episode that has Smooth Criminal. This is the same episode that has Andrew's favorite song of all time, Ben, another three letter song.

[25:31] Matt: So, yeah, I mean, I feel like this is a strong round two contender. But like now that we're at this point, I feel like every time I think of these songs, I'm like, well, is this good for this round or, you know, where's the stopping point?

[25:44] Claudia: Like either maybe round three?

[25:46] Matt: Depends on what this gets.

[25:48] Claudia: I remember the round one competition for this song was this one over Lean On Me. And I remember being like, whoa, that feels a little weird because Lean On Me feels like such a season one staple that it was like to have Lean On Me go out in round one felt weird to me.

[26:32] Matt: But yeah, yeah, that you also think that's weird, right?

[26:36] Claudia: It would have been a competition. Then it would have been tough.

[26:42] Matt: I feel like sometimes I don't let nostalgia win for me. Like to me in that matchup, I'm like, well, I think Bad is the more exciting track, the better vocals. But like, if I was watching Lean On Me and really absorbing within the nostalgia of season one, like you're talking about, that would make it tougher.

[27:01] Claudia: I don't know. Would you rather have had Lean On Me pulled here?

[27:04] Matt: And right now?

[27:05] Claudia: Yeah, I don't know. I think that like I'm a little in a sentimental mood. So I think Lean On Me would have hit a little bit right now more. But I mean, like, who am I to deny? Like it's they're having fun. They're not having fun on set, but like I'm having fun listening. And it's fun when they go.

[27:27] Matt: Yeah, yeah, your good friend, Grant is here.

[27:31] Claudia: My neighbor, my neighbor. Thank you. Neighbor plug. I was gonna say, didn't you just see him?

[27:39] Claudia: Did you just get back from LA or something?

[27:41] Matt: I did, yeah. Wait, did I see Grant?

[27:45] Claudia: You saw his costume, no?

[27:47] Matt: Oh, I did! That was a nice little surprise at the end of the Warner Brothers tour.

[27:53] Claudia: They obviously lead you into a gift shop at the very end, and there was no Glee content the entire tour, until the very end of the gift shop, where it was the cases of The Flash and Supergirl's costumes, right next to each other. And I thought that was so beautiful.

[28:15] Matt: It's a Glee, Glee world.

[28:17] Claudia: It's a Glee, Glee world. And I'm also like, sentimented because I was out there for a number of reasons. But one of the reasons was to see the Lost documentary premiere.

[28:29] Matt: Amazing. I was confused and delighted by your content.

[28:34] Claudia: Yeah, which was a really good time. And I'm coming into this recording today with a newfound appreciation for, I mean, I feel like I already had it, but I've reached a new level of appreciation for fandom. And so it was very nice to be surrounded by Lost fans.

[28:55] Matt: For Lost fandom or fandom in general?

[28:58] Claudia: Yeah, Lost fandom, to be surrounded in person by so many of them for that premiere, and then obviously, talking about Glee every week. They're very similar. I'll say that much.

[29:10] Matt: Oh, yeah.

[29:11] Claudia: It's the Gleeks and the Lost fans, they don't look like they would be the same on paper, but they're cut from the same cloth.

[29:17] Matt: Both are six seasons, aren't they?

[29:19] Claudia: It's wild. Okay, there is something to be done.

[29:22] Matt: It's Mike's connection, too. That's all I think about.

[29:24] Claudia: Okay.

[29:25] Matt: Doesn't he like both of those?

[29:27] Claudia: Okay, he was-

[29:27] Matt: Sorry, you're the big Lost Gleek.

[29:29] Claudia: Yeah, you did it first. You did it first.

[29:31] Matt: I like both series first, okay?

[29:33] Claudia: No one else on earth has ever-

[29:35] Matt: No one has ever liked both.

[29:36] Claudia: I've heard.

[29:39] Matt: But no, it's wild. And I think that there's something absolutely to be done here. Maybe I've said it before, but both series, exactly 121 episodes long.

[29:50] Claudia: That's what I thought.

[29:51] Matt: Yeah.

[29:51] Claudia: That's so weird.

[29:53] Matt: Isn't that so bizarre?

[29:54] Claudia: If it's Gossip Girl or something else in that realm is also that. Maybe the OC, I don't know.

[29:59] Matt: Yeah.

[29:59] Claudia: Six seasons, 121 episodes.

[30:01] Matt: Six seasons, but a different number of episodes per season. But in the very end, it's all-

[30:09] Claudia: It's 121.

[30:10] Matt: How weird. Was there six also?

[30:13] Claudia: Six seasons.

[30:13] Matt: Short?

[30:14] Claudia: Oh, their six was short, but their four was notably short. I think that was like 13 episodes.

[30:21] Matt: How weird. That's really interesting, actually.

[30:23] Claudia: Very cosmic for you.

[30:25] Matt: Very cosmic. I'm like, do I watch the first episode of Glee, the first episode of Lost, and then have a conversation about both? I don't know.

[30:33] Claudia: I have a friend who did that for, what were the two shows? It was, honestly, was it Lost?

[30:41] Matt: One of them was The Nanny.

[30:43] Claudia: Okay.

[30:44] Matt: But it was her and another one of her friends had the concept of neither one of them had seen the other's favorite show. So every episode recap was talking about, you know, the other show they watched for the first time. And I think it was a cute concept.

[30:57] Claudia: Yeah.

[30:57] Matt: I loved that.

[30:59] Claudia: Glossed.

[31:00] Matt: Glossed. Glossed over.

[31:03] Claudia: That's good. That writes itself as well.

[31:05] Matt: Yeah.

[31:07] Claudia: I'm feeling scenty as well, because I came out to my co-worker that, not actually, not in that way. We were talking about, like, she's working on a podcast for a work thing. And I was like, I have a podcast-related activity today as well. And then I, like, she wanted to-

[31:25] Matt: You were putting your fingers together.

[31:31] Claudia: Yeah, literally. I'm going to get on a microphone later today. I have thoughts. And I was just, like, talking about how, like, it's such a weird, I don't know. I don't have another, like, kind of community-oriented around something that, like, especially just brought me so much joy as a younger person. Like, this really feels like healing my inner child. When I first started listening to Kevin and Jenna's podcast, when I started listening to this, like, it's just like, wow.

[31:56] Matt: Yeah.

[31:56] Claudia: And all of those feelings of, like, when you're watching the show, like, you feel like you were, like, one singular person, but there are other people who feel, like, different and united in that.

[32:05] Matt: Very isolated.

[32:06] Claudia: Yeah.

[32:06] Matt: I mean, I met my fiancé through a podcast about Survivor.

[32:10] Claudia: It's so beautiful. I have thoughts about your wedding song, by the way.

[32:14] Matt: Oh, tell me.

[32:16] Claudia: Um, I think I said it to, I think Andrew and I said it on one of the episodes I was on, but I'm feeling really strongly about the first time ever I saw your face.

[32:25] Matt: Oh, it's not been in consideration, but it should be.

[32:28] Claudia: Oh, I'm thinking that.

[32:31] Matt: It wasn't even in consideration for Mr. Schuster. He listened to that and was like, skip.

[32:35] Claudia: That's true.

[32:36] Matt: No, thanks.

[32:37] Claudia: He said, not enough water.

[32:39] Matt: Boo, hiss.

[32:40] Claudia: We got to get that OCD girl into a public poll.

[32:43] Matt: Yeah.

[32:44] Claudia: It has to be.

[32:45] Matt: Have I been on since I went back to start Real Housewives of Atlanta and I'm meeting Nene Leakes for the first time?

[32:51] Claudia: No, not at all.

[32:51] Matt: I've texted you, Andrew, about it.

[32:53] Claudia: Because you were telling me about a scene in one of the seasons where Nene is talking about Glee after Corey had died and whatnot. And I don't know if I've talked about it. I mean, there's not much to talk about, but it's just very interesting because I met Nene Leakes on Glee.

[33:07] Matt: I knew of her and I might have even met her on Dancing with the Stars before Glee. I don't know the timeline there.

[33:12] Claudia: But then to go back and see her on Real Housewives has been quite the ride.

[33:16] Matt: Wait, you met her on Glee?

[33:18] Claudia: Wait, I forgot.

[33:19] Matt: Yeah, I was on-

[33:20] Claudia: Knew of her.

[33:21] Matt: No, Matt was in the hit box show of Glee.

[33:23] Claudia: I was on Glee.

[33:24] Matt: I was so confused.

[33:26] Claudia: I was like, wait a minute, what?

[33:28] Matt: I saw it in your face.

[33:30] Claudia: Like, I was like-

[33:31] Matt: No, babe.

[33:32] Claudia: Hey, babe.

[33:33] Matt: I was introduced to the, yeah, the leak happens there.

[33:38] Claudia: I also, I actually have seen her on nothing except Glee.

[33:42] Matt: So I should maybe watch Real Housewives.

[33:45] Claudia: A lot of seasons.

[33:47] Matt: Anything else about Bad, though?

[33:49] Claudia: It's not bad.

[33:51] Matt: Not bad.

[33:51] Claudia: My one note was, can't believe Sebastian alleged to not have a gay face, to not have a case of the gay face, because he sure does.

[33:59] Matt: Sure does.

[34:00] Claudia: I think there's a, there is a Twink.

[34:05] Matt: Twink, he's like also my age. So I don't even know when you kind of age out of that.

[34:10] Claudia: What's the cutoff?

[34:11] Matt: What's the cutoff for these things?

[34:12] Claudia: But there is a, there is a guy that is like an insta-gay in New York that looks exactly like Grant Gustin.

[34:22] Matt: And I've shown him to other people and I'm like, that's Grant Gustin. And people are like, you're right.

[34:30] Claudia: But you've also seen Grant Gustin. So it's probably just him.

[34:33] Matt: What does that have to do with anything?

[34:35] Claudia: I think you're just talking about Grant.

[34:37] Matt: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I've seen, I, but I've also seen this, this gay out at gay places where it's, yeah, he's, he's doing gay things.

[34:46] Claudia: Whereas.

[34:47] Matt: Oh, have you seen him doing gay things?

[34:50] Claudia: Some kind of gay things, Andrew.

[34:52] Matt: If they're just being out at gay, queer places, like Rockaway Beach.

[34:58] Claudia: So yeah, a bad, do I have anything else? Do we have anything to say for the rocks out of it all?

[35:06] Matt: If she ends up going here, I won't be upset. Just to put that out there.

[35:09] Claudia: But I'm also happy to send her through, but it would be like me saying, yeah, one last chance out here.

[35:15] Matt: Right, this is it.

[35:16] Claudia: I wonder if people would be upset about, I don't know if people feel strongly about this. Like it's a fun number, but I think a lot of the times when I'm actually here, I do start having the thought of like, what a song represents from like some various, like, I don't know, like there are other group numbers. I like their other group Michael numbers. I like, so this one is kind of like, if it went, I, I don't think I would like really think twice about it.

[35:46] Matt: No, it is really interesting.

[35:47] Claudia: Yeah.

[35:47] Matt: To hear like the perspectives after like the episode is released of being like, this was Ben and Rachel's last duet. And you didn't even like, we've got tonight that I'm like learning, like, oh, wait, actually, even though it's not there, it's not fully a duet when they, when we have all those eight people in there. But, you know, I guess like on paper, it kind of does look like their last duet that we didn't even take into consideration that people are thinking about.

[36:13] Claudia: So bad heads. I want to hear you all make some noise.

[36:18] Matt: Bad heads.

[36:19] Claudia: Bad heads.

[36:20] Matt: Bad heads.

[36:23] Claudia: Anything else? Any final notes?

[36:26] Matt: I don't think so.

[36:26] Claudia: Uh, no, I'm, I'm, I'm invested in the competitions these days. And like, you know, we know the songs, but like, what's the battle?

[36:34] Matt: Right, right, right, right.

[36:36] Claudia: I'm excited.

[36:36] Matt: Oh, this is a fun competition.

[36:40] Claudia: Oh, is it a bad one?

[36:43] Matt: How do we feel about Emily's rule? Do we like knowing anything beforehand?

[36:45] Claudia: I don't, but I always defer to my other fellow guest.

[36:53] Matt: I think it's, I feel like sometimes it just speaks to you or it doesn't. And, you know, I've also learned Andrew has really bad taste recently. So that doesn't really make sense.

[37:00] Claudia: Yeah, that's one thing.

[37:02] Matt: I'm not sure what you're correlating that to.

[37:05] Claudia: If I see season six, I know I'm going to be happy.

[37:08] Matt: Audio medium, we're looking at, who wants to paint the picture?

[37:12] Claudia: The incest twins.

[37:13] Matt: Incest twins in the auditorium.

[37:17] Claudia: Looking at somebody.

[37:18] Matt: Somebody's looking.

[37:20] Claudia: Oh, I don't know what I'm looking for.

[37:23] Matt: It, hmm.

[37:24] Claudia: I'm watching season six.

[37:26] Matt: I would love to watch season six right now.

[37:28] Claudia: Well, you're going to watch a season six performance. It is You Learn, You've Got a Friend.

[37:33] Matt: Oh my God.

[37:35] Claudia: This is an intriguing one.

[37:36] Matt: That is very exciting.

[37:50] ♪ Musical number: "You Learn/You've Got a Friend" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[38:14] Matt: Oh, yeah, you live, you learn, you love, you learn, you cry, you learn, you lose.

[38:28] Claudia: You learn, you be, you learn, you scream, you learn, and I'll be there.

[38:38] Matt: Yeah, you've got a friend.

[38:42] Claudia: Ain't it good to know that you've got a friend when people can be so cold?

[38:51] Matt: They'll hurt you.

[38:53] Claudia: Yes, and desert you.

[38:57] Matt: And take your soul if you let them.

[39:00] Claudia: If you let them.

[39:01] Matt: Oh, but don't you let them.

[39:05] Claudia: Oh, yeah, you live, you learn, you love, you learn, you love, you learn, you choose.

[39:16] Matt: You learn, you learn, you've got a friend.

[39:28] Claudia: It's good to know you've got a friend.

[39:42] Matt: Audio medium. I think Claudia and I had the exact same reaction, like a physical one when Quinn showed up.

[39:49] Claudia: Oh, yeah.

[39:50] Matt: I bet.

[39:52] Claudia: I saw Claudia's face move and just, you know, pop a little bit.

[39:56] Matt: Oh, mommy's here.

[39:57] Claudia: I did do that. I forgot about her in this song and, frankly, season.

[40:04] Matt: Frankly, in the last three seasons.

[40:08] Claudia: Yeah, she went somewhere, I guess.

[40:11] Matt: And then I guess she came back.

[40:12] Claudia: I don't know.

[40:13] Matt: I guess so.

[40:13] Claudia: I got a problem recently. I don't know if it was the last episode or the time before that. So I'm like pulling the Quinn season six. There's not many, but I'm happy to have it.

[40:22] Matt: I'm happy to have a blonde Bob.

[40:24] Claudia: Yeah, it's not a Bob, but it's crazy.

[40:29] Matt: I only had two notes for Bad, though.

[40:31] Claudia: I have lots to say about this.

[40:34] Matt: This is, I friggin love this so much.

[40:38] Claudia: It's so good and so much better than I remember every time.

[40:42] Matt: Now, let me ask a question because I feel like we're all feeling the same way right now, which is a positive way. Have we seen Bad too many times? Is it just falling flat for us because we're just like, okay, we know it. It's great. It's good. But we're just so used to it.

[40:54] Claudia: And season six still lives in this untapped, like we've seen it, but it's not as overplayed for all of us.

[41:02] Matt: No.

[41:03] Claudia: Yes, maybe.

[41:04] Matt: I think that's a really great question.

[41:06] Claudia: I don't think that's what's happening, though.

[41:08] Matt: Okay.

[41:10] Claudia: Because I feel like it's possible. But I think that this song has going for it. That's just like, it's like, it almost has the Lean On Me kind of vibe.

[41:19] Matt: Yes.

[41:20] Claudia: Where it's like sentimentally, very cutesy.

[41:29] Andrew: With B.A.D., I think, with B.A.D. specifically, what you brought up, Matt, about like, B.A.D. kind of has some stink on it now. I think it's like, okay, I know all this shit that has went down with B.A.D. that I'm like, I can't even enjoy this because I know that they're not having fun, you know? So, I don't know anything about what's happening on set here. My other thought with this too is, again, my brain just goes to like, representing parts of a whole of like, out of season six of The Batch, this is top tier. Like, this is easily one of the best, like, with a bullet. And in season three, there's so much about B.A.D. that, again, it just kind of like, fades into the background. But that part kind of maybe goes into your question, Matt. Like, it's just so saturated with other things. And also, like, yeah, Michael's tribute episode, like, those are really like, rewatchable. I don't know, I think that's an interesting question. Do you think that's true for you, Matt?

[42:32] Matt: I think so, because when I'm watching B.A.D. and thinking of what to say about it afterwards, I'm like, I don't even know what there is left to say because it's like, we all know B.A.D. We all know what it brings to the table. We all stream it when we want to stream it kind of thing. But like, I feel like watching a season six number, especially one that's like, not an obvious favorite of mine from season six, like, I like this a lot, but I have probably 20 others, if not more, that I think of before this in season six that I really like a lot. But watching this, I was delighted the whole time. It had that, like you said, that lean on me, like, just that like, sentimental, everybody's here all together.

And every time a new character pops in, they know what they're doing with that. They know what they're doing to just keep adding on hits of like, oh, they're so cute. Oh, look at all of them. I love them. They're my friends. And there's not many episodes in season six that have everybody, like, I mean, especially for me, seeing the three girls together, you know, Brittany, Santana, they're not always, they're very often together. They're not going to be at the, like, I wouldn't, not to get into that. So I take those moments to heart. I like those moments. Also, the fact that the leading vocals are the loft trio, like, they're trying to throw us off their scent by making it. Oh, that's a good point.

Rachel and Tina standing there, which is like, so cruel. She's not that girl is not singing. She is not singing. I hear a little bit on the track. I hear her. I heard her on the track a little bit at the end in one of the like, background vocals. Okay, it's so like, weird. And it made it like a nice surprise because yeah, it's Kurt Rachel and then Santana coming in with the vocal and I love that. I think my favorite moment from this performance is when Santana does that I'm also here moment. Brittany in the seats stands up and it's like target lock. I'm making a beeline. It's great.

[44:24] Andrew: Yeah. The way that they're singing to the new kids as well is like, it brings you back to the theme of the show that, you know, these kids are supposed to be these outcasts that nobody else, you know, and like, they don't get a lot of support from the rest of the school that's changed over the years or whatever. But just to have the alumni come in and be like, look, we made this family. We are all here with each other. And you're now part of our family. You've got a friend and like that just gives me chills. It's so cute. Do we just to follow up the Tina discourse, Tina, Jenna is on this song. She has like very she sings like back up a lot of the part and she has like one line to herself toward the end.

That I think is simply, you've got a friend. She only has that. But one of the things opposing to the group, I feel like I would be okay with like a Roderick or a Jane or like the twins like on this number as well did feel very exclusive that it's like we're singing at you. What do you think?

[45:34] Matt: I wasn't missing that.

[45:35] Andrew: You weren't.

[45:36] Matt: Oh, I felt yeah, I kind of felt like it was like a mentor to student. Yeah, kind of like a little like message for them. I think it would have also been cute if it was like an entire number.

[45:47] Andrew: Yeah, it wouldn't have offended me.

[45:48] Matt: Yeah, the same. I mean, I just feel like remiss of like, I know that like we had the, oh, this is another banger, head over feet. Oh, God, what does that match up? Will you still love me tomorrow?

[46:01] Andrew: Will you love me tomorrow?

[46:01] Matt: Oh, whoops. Did you hear me? I said completely wrong. That like, that I'm like, oh, okay, you guys delivered on that one. Where is the Roderick Madison duet of an Alanis Morissette curl king? You know, I need that. They do a really bad job of like, I don't know, like balancing the newbies.

[46:23] Andrew: Yeah.

[46:23] Matt: In season six, I think like, it's like someone gets an episode and like, it seems like they're going to be like, relevant in any way and then they're just not and then they're like, child star.

[46:34] Andrew: Right, right. Here's child star where it's like, we're going to give you work to do. Yeah.

[46:40] Matt: It's yeah, it's tough. I've been Can Andrew, do you know offhand? Or do you have it pulled up easily to tell me what other Michael songs have gone through? What are still eligible? Because I feel like we can sense a direction this may be going in. I just want to make sure there's some Michael still around if that's

[47:00] Andrew: I know for certain that never can say goodbye is going through, obviously.

[47:08] Matt: I mean, by the skin of her teeth.

[47:09] Andrew: I know. But nonetheless, she's making it. Okay, so bad in this competition right now. Oh, want to be starting something? No. Scream? No. Never can say goodbye. Brought back. Human nature yet to be pulled. Ben went home in round two. Smooth criminal going three to going through to round three. I just can't stop loving you gone in round one and then black or white. That is staying behind made it to round two, but

[47:46] Matt: Okay, so it's sorry, smooth criminal and what's the other one that is human nature has yet to be pulled human nature. Yeah, call my shot now we'll go through so if the two of them go through to the next round, I feel like bad is like the next one in line that I would say makes sense to go farther. But I think we'll be okay if it stays behind. You haven't asked me for my vote yet. But

[48:09] Andrew: Yeah, well, I think that like this song, I feel like this entire episode is like very op that it's like, I feel like now I want to pull up the songs from that episode to see like how this up jagged little tapestry is doing because I think might be the same amount of success. Honestly, it's a love me tomorrow go through yet or we haven't pulled it yet. So she's going through to I'm so like it's too late already gone hand in my pocket going through going through to round three. We love me tomorrow hasn't pulled so far away gone and you learn you've got a friend in this competition. Okay. It's too late. I'm sad to see that gone. I have grown to love it. Can I vote? You want to vote? Can I give you um, can I give you all a legal note?

I know you didn't ask for one. And it's probably it's probably boring. And you're like, we know we know. Okay. This is the final mashup of the series. And also the final Diana vocal. I want to say that present that information to you on not to sway you in any direction. But just as simply information. Now, Matt, I'm excited to hear your vote.

[49:34] Matt: I'm not often do I feel like I am hopping on one of these calls and feeling something fresh and rejuvenated from a song for the first not for the first time, but something that I didn't expect to feel and I feel like we three all just had a collective moment of like, a nice, calm sigh of that was so cute. And that's my vote is going to be for you learn you've got a friend. It's so cute. It's morning coffee on on the deck in in in a really rustic neighborhood. That's really cute. And we're all friends having fun.

[50:08] Claudia: And it's raining outside or is it sunny?

[50:11] Matt: Um, I'm gonna say it's sunny for me.

[50:14] Claudia: Okay, never mind.

[50:16] Matt: I heard it raining in New York today.

[50:18] Claudia: Did it rain?

[50:20] Matt: It sure did.

[50:21] Claudia: Oh, I guess I missed that.

[50:22] Matt: Or maybe not. Actually, it was just great. Anyway, you're keeping tabs. Um, Claudia, what are you thinking?

[50:31] Claudia: I'm trying to think it would be more interesting. If I said something interesting, but all I have to say is, yeah, that was sweet. And I liked it. And what I said about that remains to be true. It didn't do anything too extreme for me. There were other Michael songs that have gone home sadly that I would have preferred to see go to round two or round three. We can name them.

[50:55] Matt: We can name them. I already forgot.

[51:01] Claudia: I don't know. We're thinking of Scream. We're thinking of something.

[51:05] Matt: Yep, yep, yep, yep. Thanks. Thank you. Those are the ones. Scream especially. That that makes me sad. That was a really good one. Um, yeah, I'm gonna go for also my, my girl Alanis. Like, I just, I'm so glad that they did this episode. It's so out of nowhere, but I love it.

[51:22] Andrew: And the 11th hour.

[51:24] Claudia: Yeah, like, they really have some representation. Have you heard about this Alanis Morissette girl? She has some hits.

[51:31] Andrew: So good. It's so weird the way they choose to do their like, artistic focus in season six. I don't know what was going on there. But I'm grateful for this.

[51:40] Claudia: I'm so weird. And also like, Carole King, which, I mean, it's a pick your poison with like, if you want to say if that like natural woman is Carole King or Aretha. But like, they really, they didn't, they didn't get into that girl until the 11th hour too.

[51:59] Andrew: True. I just forgot. And also, I'm gonna say it. Season six has, I'm gonna say the best Britannia representation too. There are some great Britannia episodes in there. This being one of them.

[52:12] Matt: Yeah, they make me cry all the time. Always.

[52:15] Claudia: Yeah. Um, so you learn you've got a friend, you've got a third vote from me.

[52:21] Matt: Oh, it's like American Idol.

[52:23] Claudia: Yeah, you're going to Hollywood, baby.

[52:26] Andrew: Again, I think that is great. I don't feel like I'm entirely soured on it because of the stories and whatnot. I just don't like nothing is exciting me about it right now to make me feel like it needs to continue in the competition.

[52:39] Matt: I do feel like we're stepping in something, though. I feel like we're probably really, really sneaky. And no, like, we don't actually know about it until it is released.

[52:48] Claudia: I think you're right. I think it's kind of a fun competition, though, because it could have like, maybe if one of us was feeling, I don't know, it was a different day. We were feeling really bad.

[52:57] Andrew: Look, even if one of us was feeling that way, it wouldn't have made a difference.

[53:01] Matt: True that.

[53:02] Claudia: That's so true.

[53:03] Andrew: Not going to Hollywood.

[53:05] Claudia: Not going to Hollywood, that's for sure. Okay, wait, do we want maybe one or two more competitions?

[53:12] Matt: I guess so.

[53:13] Claudia: I think one to two sounds like a good number.

[53:14] Matt: One to two. Maybe we'll see how the first goes. And then maybe another one after that.

[53:19] Claudia: I have a dinner reservation. Hopefully I can make it.

[53:22] Matt: Do you actually have a dinner reservation?

[53:24] Claudia: Yes, but I gave myself time.

[53:29] Matt: Oh, no.

[53:31] Claudia: No.

[53:31] Matt: You really, Emily?

[53:32] Claudia: I'm down for a bad song.

[53:33] Matt: I know.

[53:34] Claudia: Not that bad, but I'm down for it.

[53:36] Andrew: We had a bad song. We had bad.

[53:38] Matt: We literally did.

[53:40] Andrew: We had the song bad, the bad song.

[53:42] Claudia: It will give things to talk about.

[53:45] Matt: Oh, boy.

[53:47] Andrew: If there's one thing a podcast needs, it's things to talk about.

[53:50] Claudia: Something to talk about.

[53:52] Matt: You know how I feel about this.

[53:53] Claudia: Oh, no. Differing of opinions incoming.

[53:57] Matt: This is my favorite Clayne duet.

[54:00] Claudia: Oh, lordy.

[54:01] Matt: What is the name of this Clayne duet, Claudia?

[54:03] Claudia: Come what may, people.

[54:04] Matt: Come what may.

[54:05] Claudia: This is so exciting for me.

[54:11] ♪ Musical number: "Come What May" — performed by Matt and Claudia ♪

[55:18] ♪ Musical number: "Come What May" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[57:56] Claudia: Alright, so we just listened to "Come What May," which is a beautiful song. I mean, it's such a classic, right?

[58:26] Matt: Absolutely. It's one of those songs that just hits you in the feels every time.

[58:56] Claudia: For sure! And I think it really showcases the chemistry between the characters when they perform it.

[59:26] Matt: Definitely. And speaking of chemistry, I love how they paired it with the storyline. It just makes it even more impactful.

[59:56] Claudia: Agreed! Now, moving on to the next song, we have "Cherish."

[1:00:26] Matt: Oh, "Cherish" is iconic! I can't wait to dive into that one.

[1:00:56] Claudia: Same here! It's such a fun performance, and the energy is just infectious.

[1:01:26] Matt: Plus, the choreography is so memorable. I mean, who doesn't love a good dance number?

[1:01:56] Claudia: Exactly! And the costumes are on point too.

[1:02:26] Matt: Right? Quinn's lesbian dress is a whole mood.

[1:02:56] Claudia: It really is! I think that outfit deserves its own award.

[1:03:06] Matt: For sure! And the way they incorporate all the characters into the performance is just brilliant.

[1:03:36] Claudia: Absolutely! It really showcases the ensemble's talent.

[1:04:16] Matt: And the song itself is such a classic. It brings back so many memories.

[1:04:56] Claudia: Yes! It's one of those songs that you can't help but sing along to.

[1:05:36] Matt: Exactly! And I think that's what makes Glee so special — the way they bring these songs to life.

[1:06:16] Claudia: Couldn't agree more! Alright, let's get into "Rather Be You" next.

[1:06:56] Matt: Oh, I love that one! It's such a sweet song.

[1:07:16] Claudia: It really is! The lyrics are so relatable, and the performance is just adorable.

[1:07:36] Matt: Definitely! And I think it really highlights the character development throughout the series.

[1:08:16] Claudia: For sure! It's amazing how much growth we see in the characters through their music.

[1:08:36] Matt: Absolutely! Alright, let's wrap up our thoughts on "Rather Be You" before we move on.

[1:08:56] Claudia: Sounds good! I can't wait to hear what everyone else thinks about these performances.

[1:09:09] Claudia: I also love that we're in Season 3 with Heather Morris looking like she is an adult. You know, they do a good job with a lot of these actors and actresses, making them look appropriately aged. But no, Heather looks like she just dropped the kids off at school already. It's the hair. It's the headband with the high buns that is very mothering and not in the contemporary sense.

[1:09:33] Matt: Are you worried about that?

[1:09:35] Claudia: I know that. I feel like I've been bringing it up every few episodes, this song. But I freaking love this. And the only reason I keep on bringing it up is because I feel like there isn't enough backing behind this song. Where I feel like there should be everything considered. Okay, I've learned recently the concept of a list. And so I'm going to list the reasons that I love this song. It's a Quinn-led group number. That she is the one leading with Cordova Street, Samuel Larson, and Amber Riley also on the track. And it was a very inspired choice to have her leading. That's one. Two, it's a freaking mash-up.

[1:10:25] Matt: Is that it? Have you ever heard of a list, actually? Is that the only thing you like about it?

[1:10:30] Claudia: I am going to be awake at night thinking about that. I'm so sorry. All the time. I swear to God, I will never leave this podcast unscathed. And also, it's a mash-up. I don't know if you caught that. But it's a mash-up of two songs that share the same title, which I think is a really cute choice. That it's like, oh, wouldn't that be a fun idea? And then it probably wouldn't work. But then it did. And I really like it. And also, it's better than both of the original versions.

[1:11:03] Matt: I don't know either of them.

[1:11:05] Claudia: That's the thing. So when you don't know either of them, like the two of us, you don't know which song is which. Because to me, this is just one song called Cherish Cherish. And that's how it exists. Cherish, by The Association, when you listen to it, it's a spooky song. That should be used in a horror...

[1:11:26] Matt: Along with Ben.

[1:11:28] Claudia: Ben. Yeah, yeah. Ben mashed up with Cherish by The Association. Haunting.

[1:11:34] Matt: Haunting.

[1:11:36] Claudia: Now we're at listicle number three. The Britannia of it all. Quinn is singing to Britannia. Yeah, I know she doesn't go to their wedding. But this is her endorsing this lesbian relationship by even wearing a lesbian dress. That's what she would wear. That's why she couldn't go because she couldn't find her lesbian dress. I need to wear my lesbian dress. If I don't have it, I can't go at all.

[1:12:09] Matt: Right, because that's the reason she was late to the financial wedding. Because she forgot her bridesmaid's dress.

[1:12:14] Claudia: Okay, so I'm right, actually. She's constantly forgetting her dresses to these weddings. Do I have a final? No, I mean, it's just great. That's it. Everyone knows all lists have to have four. Do I have a fourth point?

[1:12:28] Matt: It's a calm before the storm, baby.

[1:12:34] Claudia: On My Way is the most packed episode of this show. And they are having a good time. They're getting jazzy. They're having fun at Breadsticks at the Sugar Shack. And they don't even know what's around the corner. They have no clue what's to come. Quinn, you better be sitting down. Touch that script once.

[1:13:00] Matt: So that's it. And I also have a legal note if you want a cherry on top.

[1:13:02] Claudia: A cherrish on top?

[1:13:04] Matt: A cherrish on top. There it is. This was part of a competition in round one that was very contested and made a lot of people very angry. This won against Take Me to Church.

[1:13:19] Claudia: Which looks really bad.

[1:13:21] Matt: Looks bad on paper.

[1:13:23] Claudia: I stand by it.

[1:13:25] Matt: I don't know. I would have gone Take Me to Church. But I'm not crying about it.

[1:13:32] Claudia: Yeah. In this song, the Britannia is carrying everything for me. I don't know. I love Quinn. She's my girl. But I don't know. It's not doing as much for me. Her voice is not... I don't know. There's something about it that I'm not loving too much. But I am loving the Britannia a lot. So it's carrying a lot. And the lesbian dress, that's a lot. That's really all I wrote down. Britannia points, lesbian dress.

[1:14:09] Matt: I feel like this isn't the first time this has happened. You have the wrong choir room host here. Because this is probably Amon's favorite Glee song of all time.

[1:14:19] Claudia: Seriously?

[1:14:21] Matt: It may not be number one, but I know it's in his top ten. He loves Cherish Cherish. We would just start recording some days and he would just be singing it. And I'm like, dude, this is season six.

[1:14:32] Claudia: This is another interesting battle for me. Because it's a battle of two songs that I don't feel super passionately about. Obviously there has to be a winner. So I'm just trying to figure out in my head which one makes me feel more. I don't want to reveal what the vote is going to be.

[1:15:00] Matt: Would Matt potentially be a tiebreaker?

[1:15:02] Claudia: I don't know. We haven't voted yet. Do we have any final notes about Cherish Cherish?

[1:15:09] Matt: Cherish these final moments with the song if it doesn't go your way.

[1:15:13] Claudia: I don't like that Amber isn't actually really on the track. She is kind of in the end. The goth squad numbers should have been truly group numbers. Even if one person is leading and then the other people are there. But Quinn's not in stereo hearts. I don't like that. Give both girls their time to shine. Please. Diana is quite literally not on the track for stereo hearts. Whereas Amber is on the track for this.

[1:15:44] Matt: She's doing some stuff.

[1:15:46] Claudia: I'm hearing it a little. I was hearing it towards the end. She went in. She was like hey Adam. I'm ready to record for Cherish Cherish. And he's like it's not going to be a long session. But I'm glad that you're here.

[1:16:01] Matt: That's it. I guess we should do and make.

[1:16:08] Claudia: I will cast the first vote. In case it wasn't increasingly obvious for Cherish Cherish. I think that the gag of it all winning against Take Me to Church. And I would love to see it live another day. Just tooth and nail fighting its way through this glock. I believe in you Cherish Cherish. I cherish you.

[1:16:31] Matt: I kind of wanted to. I thought before Matt spoke that I would be casting a pity vote.

[1:16:44] Claudia: For.

[1:16:48] Matt: But I will just cast that as my earnest vote. Because I think that I do like that one more in this particular pairing.

[1:16:51] Claudia: Which is.

[1:16:53] Matt: I like kind of hope. I feel like I need that to not vote for. Because then someone might want to kill me. But I don't know. And I'm super uninvested in either of these guys. I could just be drama starter here.

[1:17:07] Claudia: Yeah I don't know. This feels like the kind of thing Eduardo would get mad at me for.

[1:17:11] Matt: I don't know. Everything I do is wrong.

[1:17:15] Claudia: Yes everything I do. He said specific hate in the... not the group chat. But on the posting on Patreon. Plug Patreon if you want to see the hate that I receive. Ruin Eduardo. Go to Patreon.com.

[1:17:29] Matt: Do you want us to convince you? What do you need at this time?

[1:17:33] Claudia: I don't really need much. I think I know where I'm going. But I still have deep down. I've said this to you before in a decision somewhat like this in the past. That I'm like. I could get back at Andrew for past grievances in this one.

[1:17:45] Matt: Just by voting against you.

[1:17:49] Claudia: Spiteful voting.

[1:17:51] Matt: I could because it's just. It feels like something I would want to do. But I'm not going to do that. I know which way Andrew wants this to go. I know which way Claudia literally just said she'd rather me vote. So she doesn't get all the hate for all of this. And like something that Aman would never do for me. But I'll do for him.

[1:18:07] Claudia: Is allow this Cherish Cherish to go through.

[1:18:09] Matt: He wouldn't do that for my favorite song. But I'm a good friend. And I mean as far as like. It's like Cherish Cherish. I don't feel a whole lot for. But like come what may. I literally just want to fast forward it when it's on. I wish I liked it more because I wish more of the Clayne scenes or songs again did. I wish they all did something for me. But that one just doesn't. So Cherish Cherish is my vote.

[1:18:35] Claudia: Thank you.

[1:18:37] Matt: You're being a really, really nice person right now.

[1:18:41] Claudia: Thank you. I thought you were going to say. And I know what Claudia wants and I don't care. And I just met her. I don't know her like that. I've only heard her voice a couple times.

[1:18:55] Matt: Yeah.

[1:18:57] Claudia: No. I'm glad that I was here for. Because I did have strong feelings about it. And I don't know.

[1:19:03] Matt: Yeah. I feel good about.

[1:19:05] Claudia: You saw her one last time. It's a baby.

[1:19:11] Matt: What is it?

[1:19:13] Claudia: I hate to see you leave.

[1:19:15] Matt: But I'd love to see you walk away.

[1:19:17] Claudia: What is it?

[1:19:19] Matt: I hate to see you.

[1:19:21] Claudia: I hate to see you leave.

[1:19:23] Matt: But I'd love to watch you.

[1:19:25] Claudia: That's not it.

[1:19:27] Matt: I'd love to watch you walk away.

[1:19:29] Claudia: Yeah.

[1:19:31] Matt: That seems right.

[1:19:33] Claudia: We all collectively stepped in another thing right now. They're going to be like. Stop setting traps.

[1:19:39] Matt: Sorry everyone.

[1:19:41] Claudia: Are we just checking the gauge?

[1:19:43] Matt: One final competition.

[1:19:45] Claudia: I only have time for one more.

[1:19:47] Matt: Only half a competition if we need to.

[1:19:49] Claudia: Only half a competition.

[1:19:51] Matt: To listen to a song.

[1:19:53] Claudia: The next episode with this great special guest that's not us can actually do three and a half. And you guys can figure out the result then. Thank you for reminding me of that.

[1:20:01] Matt: That was really messed up.

[1:20:03] Claudia: That was actually cut out of the bag. That was me planning. I was like. I want us to be in a bad mood for an episode. Because I think that's honestly more entertaining.

[1:20:11] Matt: As if I wasn't coming in in a bad mood.

[1:20:15] Claudia: The group chat that Andrew made for us. What was it? Mind support group or something. He knew what he was doing.

[1:20:25] Matt: We didn't even talk about Jacob Ardis yet.

[1:20:27] Claudia: To lift my spirits.

[1:20:29] Matt: Oh my god. Do we want to talk about Jacob Ardis?

[1:20:33] Claudia: No. I want to kiss him. That's all.

[1:20:39] Matt: Jacob.

[1:20:41] Claudia: We're ready.

[1:20:43] Matt: In a really weird way.

[1:20:45] Claudia: Wait what?

[1:20:47] Matt: He's going to be a special guest. And you're talking about him.

[1:20:51] Claudia: Jacob we're recording live. We're not going to glack it. We're just going to kiss.

[1:20:55] Matt: Audio medium.

[1:20:59] Claudia: I'm kissing Jacob Ardis.

[1:21:01] Matt: Oh my god. This is such a weird.

[1:21:05] Claudia: The screenshot looks like the little emoji of the guy.

[1:21:07] Matt: Floating up.

[1:21:09] Claudia: Do we know what it is?

[1:21:11] Matt: It's too dark.

[1:21:13] Claudia: Just like my room. I need to put a light on.

[1:21:17] Matt: I think it's Cheerios that are not in the Glee Club.

[1:21:19] Claudia: No they're fully in the Glee Club.

[1:21:21] Matt: Is that Brittany and Santana?

[1:21:23] Claudia: No it's not. It's Kitty.

[1:21:27] Matt: Kitty and what's her face?

[1:21:29] Claudia: Mason.

[1:21:31] Matt: A few more letters.

[1:21:33] Claudia: A few more Madison.

[1:21:35] Matt: Season 6.

[1:21:37] Claudia: Is this...

[1:21:39] Matt: Jane sings it.

[1:21:41] Claudia: Yes.

[1:21:43] Matt: Rather Be.

[1:21:45] Claudia: It's Rather Be.

[1:21:47] Matt: This is a good one.

[1:22:09] ♪ Musical number: "Rather Be" — performed by Jane ♪

[1:22:57] ♪ Musical number: "Rather Be" — performed by Clean Bandit featuring Jess Glynne ♪

[1:23:45] Claudia: I really had a good time. They're so cute.

[1:23:48] Matt: Fulton Academy burned down.

[1:23:52] Claudia: Okay, Clayne coming in half, I knew it was coming. I was like, okay, when are they going to walk in? They did give them enough time doing the actual number before arriving, which I was happy about. But it is, to my previous point, they are not giving these newbies any time for themselves at all. They're stealing focus. The conversation after this song could have been like, oh, that was a really good song. I think that we should really sing this for sectionals. Like a productive conversation about what just happened. Instead, Clayne was like, oh, I heard that the newbies are performing a song. That's a great opportunity for me and my husband to walk in and reveal Dalton Academy burned to the ground. Crazy.

[1:24:38] Matt: I can't do it. I really struggle with my feelings about season six, because as I am very slowly creeping my way through rewatching it, I go so back and forth with this being like, oh, this is a lot better than I remember. And I like gave it a lot of shit, but there's like some really good things. But also just like so much of it is so half baked and poorly executed. And it really like makes me sad that like, yeah, we have these characters that I could care about. And I don't like at all. I also hate more than anything, Spencer and Phineas. I hate them so much.

[1:25:13] Claudia: How dare you? Not even give him his character name.

[1:25:16] Matt: I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I hate them. They make me, they make my skin crawl. I hate seeing them on my screen.

[1:25:24] Claudia: He is not like other gays.

[1:25:26] Matt: He's not like other gays. His hair is so long.

[1:25:31] Claudia: His hair is so long. I will say, I mean, we already saw another season six song tonight. And well, you know, this is our second tier. The season six vibes, when they're hitting, they're hitting for me. And it's just like they're again, they're just so cute. It feels like such a different era of the show. We know like season four and five, we're obviously going for a thing. And then season six, one more season. Let's bring it back to McKinley. Let's bring in the old guard with some new guard that you're not going to care about. But hey, if somebody happened to pick up a spinoff show, we'll just use these characters. They sign on for the next version of it.

[1:26:05] Matt: And, you know, look, Jane, great potential for a character. So to highlight her and give her some songs here and there, super worthwhile. And have her leading the way here with some good backup vocals from the rest of the club that also all have pretty good voices.

[1:26:22] Claudia: Yeah, I thought Roderick was the MVP there. He didn't really even get a leading. But like when his voice started coming into the mix, I was like, oh, that sounds so good.

[1:26:31] Matt: I know it's a little early into the discussion to have a legal note, but you've really prompted me to give you one. So here it is. All I think it's like eight members of the Glee Club all have a solo moment in this song. And I think the same can be said for cool kids as well. That it's like they're all on the track.

[1:26:47] Claudia: It's not Madison.

[1:26:55] Matt: Madison is there.

[1:26:57] Claudia: Oh, I didn't catch that. I was thinking that in the beginning. I thought it was a Jane solo at first.

[1:27:03] Matt: And also they the way that they dress Jane for the most part is so it makes me crazy. The fucking sweaters that they put her in. And I'm like, is she a nerd? Is she like what are they trying to display by putting her in these god awful outfits? She's adult in Academy Warbler. That's what she belongs in. She belongs in that blazer.

[1:27:24] Claudia: But this one, this fit here.

[1:27:30] Matt: Yeah. It's hitting.

[1:27:32] Claudia: She looks great. Very cutesy. I feel like this is one of the songs that one of the songs I had previously had was season four. Shelby and Rachel.

[1:27:40] Matt: Next to me.

[1:27:44] Claudia: Yeah. Thank you. And when they do that one, I'm like, okay, obviously this is a very current, very relevant song at the time. Aged. Not great. Where I'm like, okay, they didn't need to cover this all these years later me listening back to the show. But this one I'm like, they just did such a good job with this song. I feel like I don't often re-listen to it, but I would if it came up. I'm not like it's not like an insta skip by any means. And it's just like it's joyous. I like it. It's very it's very I really do enjoy it.

[1:28:14] Matt: I will say that a major detriment you've already mentioned is the spallister of it all.

[1:28:20] Claudia: Don't.

[1:28:21] Matt: It's it takes me out the the way Marshall King. I love you down bad. I hope that you wouldn't say the word casually in 2024 the same way that you did 10 years ago. But the way that you say casually like he like really.

[1:28:44] Claudia: What's it up?

[1:28:46] Matt: Yes. Crazy. And I'm like, oh, my God. It's really, really bad. But I have, you know, my thoughts about this, but I won't say it on this platform. Maybe.

[1:28:56] Claudia: No.

[1:28:57] Matt: Can we say it?

[1:28:58] Claudia: No.

[1:28:59] Matt: Say it, please.

[1:29:00] Claudia: I said yesterday. I know the worst song on Glee. I know what it is.

[1:29:04] Matt: Specifically this.

[1:29:05] Claudia: Yeah. Do you know what it is?

[1:29:07] Matt: What is it?

[1:29:08] Claudia: Is it Friday?

[1:29:09] Matt: I'm in love.

[1:29:10] Claudia: Yes.

[1:29:11] Matt: Right. Answers only.

[1:29:13] Claudia: It's Friday. I'm in love.

[1:29:15] Matt: I cannot believe it's really bad. But you're that song, which is just like even people that like don't listen to the cure. No, that song. It is such a classic song. The cure is like the one band that my dad listened to growing up. Like when I was growing up, he like Shakira, Calvin Harris and the cure. And so I love the cure in this like specific way. But every, you know, whatever. This is a great song. Why did they do this? Why did they do this to me? It's so bad.

[1:29:46] Claudia: I think I already know the answer to this question. But have you ever shared the Glee cast version of Friday I'm in love with him?

[1:29:54] Matt: I could. And he would be very disturbed as gay people make him very uncomfortable.

[1:29:59] Claudia: Sure. I would specifically that gay person. And I'd be like me too. We can relate on this one.

[1:30:08] Matt: Yes.

[1:30:09] Claudia: Yes.

[1:30:10] Matt: Yeah. It makes me so upset. And I was just watching. I was like, wow, everything about this is horrible. And I was saying how like there are some bad songs on Glee that like we think about as being like the worst songs on Glee. But they have some element of like, OK, but it's kind of funny or like, OK, it's kind of funny how bad it is.

[1:30:24] Claudia: Yeah.

[1:30:25] Matt: This is it's not funny. It's not funny. It's not. It's serious how bad it is. It's grave. It is deadly serious. And it makes me so sad. And Andrew probably would have sent it through over mine.

[1:30:37] Claudia: Yeah.

[1:30:38] Matt: OK. All right. What? Where did that even fucking come from? I'm just hurt.

[1:30:42] Claudia: The episode's winding down. I need to rally the troops one more time. Earlier in the episode, when I brought you in, we had the mind discourse. And I thought that was the end of it.

[1:30:50] Matt: No, you didn't. You wanted the drama. You did this on purpose. Why else would you bring us together?

[1:30:58] Claudia: Chat names after the song.

[1:31:03] Matt: Oh, I have one final legal note. The term not like other gays was birthed when this song came up and round one and Lindsay Pierce's episode when describing these new slew of characters to Lindsay. I referred to him as not like other gays and hence that nickname was born.

[1:31:27] Claudia: So he's so sick.

[1:31:29] Matt: So sick to my stomach. But it's kind of it's kind of fun how much we do hate him, though.

[1:31:35] Claudia: Yeah.

[1:31:36] Matt: Right. That's fun.

[1:31:38] Claudia: Yeah. I think I'm going to end it on a positive note for Spencer.

[1:31:42] Matt: Yeah.

[1:31:43] Claudia: He had, by all accounts, something special to like, he could have been something. He was a fun character inherently, like a very interesting character, a gay person that is like, I like Modern Family. I don't like the fucking Glee Club. Like, I think that he's the bully. I think that was something very fun to be done.

[1:32:03] Matt: Yeah.

[1:32:04] Claudia: Like a lot of the season six new characters underdeveloped. And yeah, it's a bummer.

[1:32:12] Matt: It's a bummer. Why did they throw in Phineas for nothing? Just to make me upset? He doesn't even sing.

[1:32:20] Claudia: Anyway.

[1:32:21] Matt: Yeah. Okay. One final song. How about that?

[1:32:25] Claudia: I guess so. Just one.

[1:32:27] Matt: Okay. If we might. Why does the Emily rule exist if Andrew just breaks it every time?

[1:32:35] Claudia: I know. It really is just to fill time, as I'm getting.

[1:32:42] Matt: That is something important to do. Here it is.

[1:32:45] Claudia: Oh, this is a good Rachel look. I don't know what we're about to see, though, but I know I'm going to like it. I got excited because I see him, but this is the worst.

[1:32:52] Matt: This looks like a Brody shoulder.

[1:32:54] Claudia: It is a Brody shoulder. I'm going to tell you right now that Brody and Rachel are not in this song.

[1:33:01] Matt: Oh, then never mind. I thought it was about to be the one of them running around.

[1:33:05] Claudia: Change would do you good?

[1:33:07] Matt: Change would do you good? That was obviously, no, that's dead. Changing our expectations would do us good now.

[1:33:13] Claudia: Okay, because it's three.

[1:33:22] Matt: Manifested this.

[1:33:23] ♪ Musical number: "Three" — performed by Britney Spears ♪

[1:34:41] Claudia: How do we want to cover this? I feel like there's two ways we can start this discourse. The performance at hand or what happens with Brittany toward the end of the performance. What do we want to do?

[1:35:27] Matt: We'll talk Brittany later. That's not important right now.

[1:35:31] Claudia: I agree. This is so good. This is a contender. A contender for the crown. I fear.

[1:35:41] Matt: It is so good. This is a never skip for me.

[1:35:43] Claudia: I completely agree. There are very few songs. Sometimes I'm in the mood for this, in the mood for that. If this comes on, I can't bring myself to skip it. Because I'm like, but I could have fun with this song for a couple minutes and then go to whatever other mood I was trying to get into for my music selections.

[1:36:05] Matt: Never skip. So well done. I love it.

[1:36:09] Claudia: I wrote Jenna. Sounds amazing. Underline, underline. And then I was just thinking about how it's sad that we didn't get more of this kind of singing from her. Because I feel like a lot of times her voice sounds good on her songs, but it's like a type of singing that's like. It doesn't show off like. How versatile her voice is. I'm like, yeah, she did Broadway and she has like a Broadway voice, but when she sings songs like this, when she does like the. Hung up like she does it so well and we, she should have been able to like give it a chance to do more like that. It's such a good mix. The three of them so fun and.

[1:36:48] Claudia: I love the chemistry of the season forecast so much. That's one of my...

[1:36:51] Matt: It's also Cordova Street in his most kissable form, for me.

[1:36:56] Claudia: Okay.

[1:36:56] Matt: I think you're right.

[1:36:57] Claudia: He's going to be the other guest next week, and I think we're going to...

[1:37:01] Matt: Everyone is kissing?

[1:37:03] Claudia: We're just all going to kiss.

[1:37:04] Matt: We're all going to kiss. It's all going to be... it's all just going to be audio, and...

[1:37:10] Claudia: You know, I would still listen.

[1:37:12] Matt: Just imagining.

[1:37:14] Claudia: It's going to be really great content, I hope.

[1:37:16] Matt: Yeah.

[1:37:16] Claudia: Well, you know, it's actually really funny that this song is what we're talking about with that topic.

[1:37:22] Matt: Yeah.

[1:37:22] Claudia: With that topic.

[1:37:23] Matt: Yeah. I mean, one, two, three.

[1:37:24] Claudia: It's going to be an homage.

[1:37:25] Matt: Jacob, Sam, and me. Sam, Cord.

[1:37:30] Claudia: This song is so good. This song is so, so, so, so good. All three of them sound really good.

[1:37:37] Matt: You want to talk to Britney at the end? I don't know. I don't have a whole lot to say about it.

[1:37:40] Claudia: Before we get to the Britney, I have things to say. I really just like...

[1:37:44] Matt: I really like this. I really like the first... I feel like the first two episodes of season four, they understand how to do this group dynamic of the Glee Club.

[1:37:51] Claudia: I love this episode.

[1:37:59] Matt: Yeah, it's like... but then it quickly becomes either too newcast or not newcast at all, and they don't know how to mesh it. I don't know.

[1:38:12] Claudia: The fact that Marley has a few songs in this episode, as well as obviously this. I think that this is the best example of utilizing the talent that's in the room.

[1:38:24] Matt: Specifically Samuel Larson, I think that this is his final shining moment in the series to fucking do anything. That they're like, oh, we have this great singer.

[1:38:31] Claudia: It's crazy how good his vocals are, and how seldom they use them.

[1:38:46] Matt: Not only his vocals, but they use it in a very interesting way on a song.

[1:38:51] Claudia: They did a different arrangement. It's so good.

[1:38:55] Matt: The Tina-Jenna part of her in the center, it's great vocals, everything that you were saying.

[1:39:02] Claudia: Also looking fucking hot, too. She looks so good.

[1:39:06] Matt: She looks great.

[1:39:07] Claudia: She's having this moment where she's not the new Rachel, but she's pulling her own, whatever.

[1:39:16] Matt: It's so good.

[1:39:17] Claudia: She's bitch mode in the best way.

[1:39:19] Matt: Yeah, and I think a legal note about this episode is that I feel like I have this printed in my brain from the Glee Wiki for this episode, is that everybody in the Glee Club has a song in this episode. And that's very seldom found, that everybody that's in the room gets to actually sing on the track.

[1:39:43] Claudia: Yeah. Oh, interesting.

[1:39:45] Matt: In this episode.

[1:39:46] Claudia: In this episode. What are you saying?

[1:39:48] Matt: No, I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying the Glee Club is so small right now, that's not too exciting to me.

[1:39:53] Claudia: I mean, I'll take it. I feel like the fact that we have a Joe, Sam, Tina number itself is crazy. What we know about this hit fuck show, that shouldn't be happening.

[1:40:08] Matt: This shouldn't exist. This really should never have happened.

[1:40:11] Claudia: But they took a chance on it, and it created one of the best numbers they've ever done.

[1:40:16] Matt: Yeah.

[1:40:16] Claudia: It's also the way that everybody in the room is just involved in it. It's such good direction.

[1:40:23] Matt: Or if they just started doing that on their own, the clapping brings them into it kind of sonically. And then you also are like, they're part of the number, and their energy is a part of the number.

[1:40:31] Claudia: I wrote down that they have such good chemistry. And it's been so fun listening to Kevin and Jenna talk to Jacob and Becca, because you can tell that they really got along with the season four newbies.

[1:40:46] Matt: And I feel like I love season four. Season four is such a soft spot in my heart.

[1:40:52] Claudia: Britney 2.0 is one of, if not my favorite episode of the show, which is very weird. It just brings me so much joy, and it's so insane.

[1:41:00] Matt: It's so fun. Britney is my girl. She was always my favorite.

[1:41:05] Claudia: When I watched Glee, when it was on the air.

[1:41:09] Matt: And Crazy You Drive Me Crazy is so good, and it's not in the competition anymore. It's so sad. I also love Every Time. Every Time is one of my favorites.

[1:41:16] Claudia: I really do like that one, too.

[1:41:18] Matt: I love both of those.

[1:41:19] Claudia: And it's a great music episode.

[1:41:21] Matt: The Marley and Artie dance around.

[1:41:24] Claudia: True. Womanizer is on my grievances, too, actually.

[1:41:27] Matt: You want to say anything about her?

[1:41:28] Claudia: I just miss her.

[1:41:30] Matt: I just like her.

[1:41:31] Claudia: Miss her a lot.

[1:41:31] Matt: It's another fun grouping of vocals. It's very fun.

[1:41:37] Claudia: Yeah.

[1:41:38] Matt: I know there's plenty of other contenders, but top three are unique.

[1:41:45] Claudia: Yeah. I want to say something.

[1:41:48] Matt: You want to do the Britney discourse? Because I know that you have to run, Matt.

[1:41:53] Claudia: Whatever.

[1:41:54] Matt: Um, Britney discourse.

[1:41:56] Claudia: I think that the Britney of it all in this performance of her kind of doing paying an homage to Clayne two seasons later, halfway through, kind of stealing focus. And I was like, did they shave their heads as well?

[1:42:07] Matt: Britney going to shave her head halfway through.

[1:42:12] Claudia: And obviously, Britney Spears herself doesn't like this episode. And I think that this is that's a great encapsulation of one of the very reasons that she didn't like it.

[1:42:24] Matt: I do think, and it pains me to say this, but I do think that that part of this performance is going to be the major detriment that kicks this song out of the clacket when that day eventually comes, if that makes sense.

[1:42:40] Claudia: I mean, fair. I'm sitting here saying, you know, this could be a contender to win. They're still, as much as I love it, I'd never skip it.

[1:42:48] Matt: Of course, we can list off a dozen songs that are either more iconic or just somewhat better in the big picture.

[1:42:55] Claudia: So when that day comes, it will be hard for us all to say goodbye. But I guess if that gives us an easy out as far as why we let it go.

[1:43:03] Matt: Yeah, I don't know.

[1:43:05] Claudia: I really I wish the best for three. I love her so much.

[1:43:09] Matt: Maybe like top three season four songs. I want to say.

[1:43:13] Claudia: Probably.

[1:43:14] Matt: Easy, right?

[1:43:15] Claudia: Well done.

[1:43:16] Matt: It's just like such a good arrangement that it has to be like top ten.

[1:43:19] Claudia: Actually, no, it's not top. Season four has the breakup, which automatically puts it at like number five or six at highest, but close.

[1:43:30] Matt: Before we vote, I just need to say something for the sake. I feel like I don't know any cares. Maybe there was a few carousel additions that we've said already, but I just want to say it just so I have an easy one to add.

[1:43:41] Claudia: There is a moment in this performance where Jenna sings the lyric. Are you game that I always hear?

[1:43:45] Matt: Are you gay?

[1:43:51] Claudia: Which is so fitting for her character.

[1:43:52] Matt: Yeah, right.

[1:43:54] Claudia: So I already have a fun idea. Go to the carousel to check it out.

[1:44:00] Matt: Anyway, that was a really funny way to do that.

[1:44:04] Claudia: I think the carousel on week to week Instagram.

[1:44:08] Matt: You know, to be fair, I do look at it after I watched. I listen to the episode.

[1:44:13] Claudia: Yeah, I like to go back because sometimes I don't listen to the episode in time. And like, I don't know. I don't want the spoilers before I listen.

[1:44:20] Matt: I'll come up with some stuff for you.

[1:44:21] Claudia: The carousel labor of love. I love doing it.

[1:44:24] Matt: It takes sometimes hours to complete.

[1:44:27] Claudia: It's crazy.

[1:44:28] Matt: So good.

[1:44:29] Claudia: It brings me a lot of joy.

[1:44:30] Matt: That helps.

[1:44:31] Claudia: Um, do you want to vote on this competition or?

[1:44:34] Matt: I'd love to.

[1:44:35] Claudia: Okay, then go ahead.

[1:44:38] Matt: One, two, three, going to round three.

[1:44:42] Claudia: Okay.

[1:44:44] Matt: Yeah.

[1:44:47] Claudia: It is, isn't it?

[1:44:48] Matt: It is.

[1:44:50] Claudia: I'm going to say the same.

[1:44:51] Matt: And that's a one, two, three votes for three.

[1:44:56] Claudia: Yeah. I love Rather Be. It's so cute.

[1:44:58] Matt: But I mean, I feel like I was simply just voting for I already forgot.

[1:45:05] Claudia: I was like, three, Rather Be. I'll miss her. She's a great season six contender.

[1:45:12] Matt: It was fun to watch together. And I'm glad we did.

[1:45:15] Claudia: But there was no place that I'd rather be than watching it with you both.

[1:45:20] Matt: No place that I'd rather be.

[1:45:20] Claudia: I mean, that's not true. We know what you've been saying the rest of the episode.

[1:45:23] Matt: But thank you anyway.

[1:45:27] Claudia: Thank you so much.

[1:45:28] Matt: I think it's like an empty compliment.

[1:45:30] Claudia: The carousel could just be like pictures of like our faces looking really mad this whole time.

[1:45:36] Matt: Wait, do you want to?

[1:45:36] Claudia: I'm not going to.

[1:45:37] Matt: I was thinking I was going to ask. Can you guys send me some pictures of you looking really angry?

[1:45:43] Claudia: Only if you want to.

[1:45:46] Matt: I do have content of that.

[1:45:48] Claudia: Okay.

[1:45:48] Matt: So in recap for this episode, bad.

[1:45:52] Claudia: You know what? Bad.

[1:45:54] Matt: Like some of these ones that are too easy, I struggle with.

[1:45:58] Claudia: You're bad.

[1:45:59] Matt: You're down bad.

[1:46:01] Claudia: And we feel bad, but.

[1:46:03] Matt: We feel bad.

[1:46:05] Claudia: You're not going to round three.

[1:46:07] Matt: There we go.

[1:46:08] Claudia: Yeah.

[1:46:09] Matt: And this one, this one's easy. You learn, you've got a friend in round three.

[1:46:15] Claudia: I learned that today.

[1:46:19] Matt: Come what may.

[1:46:23] Claudia: Come what may, including round three.

[1:46:26] Matt: An untimely death.

[1:46:27] Claudia: Oh, wait, no, wait. It's not going to round three.

[1:46:30] Matt: Jesus Christ.

[1:46:31] Claudia: Rewriting history live at the end of the episode.

[1:46:33] Matt: I got it.

[1:46:33] Claudia: I got it.

[1:46:34] Matt: Come what may, including an untimely death. That's what I was going to say.

[1:46:37] Claudia: Thank you.

[1:46:37] Matt: I got a text message as I was delivering that.

[1:46:39] Claudia: And my brain hardwired.

[1:46:42] Matt: I cherish, cherish, cherish so much. And I'd love to see it in round three.

[1:46:49] Claudia: And I can't wait to see you again, girl. You are such an icon to me.

[1:46:55] Matt: Oh, I'm sure that there is no place you'd rather be than round three.

[1:47:00] Claudia: But unfortunately, we're not going to make that happen for you today.

[1:47:04] Matt: That's thoughts taken by.

[1:47:06] Claudia: By three individuals.

[1:47:10] Matt: Oh us?

[1:47:15] Claudia: I don't even know where I'm going right now.

[1:47:17] Matt: By three.

[1:47:18] Claudia: Three, one, two, three. You're going to round three.

[1:47:22] Matt: Anyway.

[1:47:23] Claudia: We did good work today.

[1:47:25] Matt: Thank you.

[1:47:28] Claudia: It's beautiful.

[1:47:29] Matt: Work that we did today.

[1:47:31] Claudia: Okay. Claudia, do you want to do you want to plug anything?

[1:47:34] Claudia: I'm gonna say you can find me on my Instagram. Claudia Gets Crafty.

[1:47:37] Matt: She really is getting crafty.

[1:47:40] Claudia: I'm always getting crafty. I post a lot of movie content up there.

[1:47:46] Matt: I have a Twitter that is now somewhat engaged in Glee Twitter. But it's also I'm never, I'm never really tweeting too much.

[1:47:55] Claudia: But it's Bloody Mary's Y'all.

[1:47:57] Matt: Bloody Mary's Y'all.

[1:47:58] Claudia: That's my Glee Twitter. I think I have 11 followers.

[1:48:03] Matt: Let's make that at least 12.

[1:48:05] Claudia: Come on now.

[1:48:05] Matt: Come on, guys.

[1:48:07] Claudia: No, it's really good. Everyone follow Claudia Gets Crafty and Bloody Mary's Y'all. Just the stream of consciousness coming out of Claudia's mind.

[1:48:16] Matt: I hope that you're taking these compliments to heart because I do mean them.

[1:48:21] Claudia: You just said that there's a stream of consciousness coming out of my mind.

[1:48:24] Matt: Is it good?

[1:48:26] Claudia: A great one.

[1:48:27] Matt: One that should be public.

[1:48:29] Claudia: And I'm glad that it is.

[1:48:30] Matt: Thank you.

[1:48:31] Matt: Matt, where can the Gleeks find you and your stolen Glockett podcast?

[1:48:38] Matt: Stolen with permission.

[1:48:41] Claudia: Yes, Aman and I are doing a big brother bracket where if you are a fan of the television show Big Brother, we're trying to find the best Big Brother player of all time.

[1:48:48] Matt: And it's been a lot of fun.

[1:48:53] Claudia: Same format as this, down to every part, except where people get mad at us because that hasn't happened yet.

[1:48:59] Matt: But it will.

[1:48:59] Claudia: It will happen.

[1:49:00] Matt: That is called The Diary Room. And you can find us on YouTube and all your podcast feeds and whatnot.

[1:49:05] Claudia: I'm also podcasting about The Challenge, an MTV show.

[1:49:10] Matt: If you like that, check out the Free Agents podcast.

[1:49:12] Claudia: And as of recent, I'm also podcasting about Dancing with the Stars over on Rob as a Podcast.

[1:49:18] Matt: If you look for the, I believe the podcast feed is now called We Know Reality TV, part of the RHAP umbrella.

[1:49:24] Claudia: Wow.

[1:49:25] Matt: Talking Dancing with the Stars these days.

[1:49:27] Claudia: And that's that.

[1:49:29] Matt: I'm on Twitter at Matt Liguori. That's the best place to find me and tell me about any Glee grievances you have with this episode.

[1:49:34] Claudia: But I think we can just all band together and not care about this week's episode.

[1:49:38] Matt: We have to all go back and make sure that my mind is floated through.

[1:49:43] Claudia: Yes.

[1:49:43] Matt: So that's that. Bringing it back to that.

[1:49:47] Claudia: Thank you.

[1:49:50] Matt: If you'd like to support the podcast and potentially make sure that mine gets brought back, I do feel really good about this girl having another chance.

[1:49:59] Claudia: You go to patreon.com slash Gleek of the Week Pod. Every seven episodes, we do vote on a song to come back.

[1:50:07] Matt: And yeah, it's a fun way to get engaged and get bonus episodes and live stream episodes and all of that.

[1:50:12] Claudia: So consider it.

[1:50:13] Matt: Anyway, that's it for me. We'll be back with a very special episode.

[1:50:22] Claudia: Oh, rub it in.

[1:50:24] Matt: Unlike this pile of crap.

[1:50:25] Claudia: Unlike this boo-hiss.

[1:50:27] Matt: You guys are so bored.

[1:50:29] Claudia: You hated it.

[1:50:30] Matt: I hated it.

[1:50:32] Claudia: All right.

[1:50:33] Matt: See ya.

[1:50:34] Claudia: It's Gleek.

[1:50:35] Matt: Gleek of the Week.