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[0:00] Andrew: We've got a mission to find the best song that's ever been on Glee.

[0:09] Andrew: There's no rhyme or reason to it, so don't get mad at me.

[0:18] Andrew: Glack it by Glack it, we'll rank everyone to see which song will move closer to spot number one.

[0:26] Andrew: Gleek of the Week, Gleek, Gleek, Gleek of the Week. It's Gleek, Gleek of the Week.

[0:35] Andrew: Um, hello! Okay, we're back with another episode, and wow, I am so excited to be joined by two of my very, very favorite Gleeks in the world. I've said it before, I'll say it again, I am so thankful for this entire community of folks to be able to chat with Glee fans, such as the guests on today's episode. And I'm like, who do I want to introduce first? It is so scary to me to even put one person before the other. But I'll go in chronological order of the person that first appeared in round one of the Glack It, the creator of Emilee's Rule, Emilee.

[1:13] Emilee: Oh my gosh. Hello, hello, hello.

[1:17] Andrew: Um, Emilee, wait, like, I feel like we do this every single time.

[1:20] Emilee: Every time.

[1:21] Andrew: Every single time. Okay, let's just say the score. What is Emilee's Rule? Like, you were the creator of this.

[1:27] Emilee: So the Rule just kind of became a thing. And I think it was more like, because Allison didn't like it, it was a game of thing that, you know, I always just felt like, you know, back in the early days, there was a lot of context being given before the competitions happened. So, you know, I was always like, oh, you could be, Amtrak could be swaying it. It could be going one way or the other. And I didn't like that. But you know what, I will say, it's not like that anymore. The times are a changing.

[2:02] Andrew: Times are changing? Are you seeing the change that you want to see in the world?

[2:06] Emilee: I'm seeing the change that I want to see in the world.

[2:08] Andrew: That's not the saying, I've just completely...

[2:12] Emilee: No, it's definitely evolved in the podcast world. So we're good.

[2:19] Andrew: Oh, perfect. And we'll get into, I mean, like, we're all happy right now, but we'll get into the GLAAC agreements.

[2:24] Emilee: I might change my mind.

[2:26] Andrew: Oh, perfect. Okay. Last time that we saw our other guests was on a live episode, and I mispronounced her name the entire time. Brie, how are you?

[2:40] Brie: Great. I'm fantastic. And the name thing, you can let that go. I am so not upset about that.

[2:46] Brie: I literally did not correct you and had a hundred chances to.

[2:50] Andrew: Yeah, well, that was very polite of you. But also, I wish that you had.

[2:54] Brie: I know, I know. I hated even breaking the news to you. I was like, oh, God.

[3:00] Andrew: You immediately screamed, no!

[3:02] Brie: Just for the sake, I mean, like, it's spelled. I'm sure that you get it a bunch of times.

[3:07] Brie: It's spelled.

[3:07] Andrew: Yeah, no, I remember specifically confronting my mom when I was young to be like, why did you do this to me? Why did you spell my name this way?

[3:16] Brie: She was not sorry at all.

[3:18] Andrew: No remorse. Okay, where do I want to go from here?

[3:23] Andrew: Reason I had both of y'all together on an episode together was like, oh my gosh, thinking specifically the thing that brings you two together. I don't know if you realize this. Maybe you probably do. Is that you both have created the Spotify and Apple Music playlists of remaining songs in the Glackett and Glackett round three contenders.

[3:41] Andrew: Thank you so much. That can be found link in bio. You are doing GLAAD's work. There's only so much me as a singular Gleek can do. And so I'm really happy that you both are picking up this task.

[4:04] Emilee: No problem. Somebody's got to do it. Somebody's got to do the work.

[4:10] Andrew: Right. It's a fun, listen, I will say that, like, when I'm on a bike ride, I'll put it on from time to time, like, especially the Glackett round three contenders. I'm like, whoa, there is so much here.

[4:24] Brie: It's going to be a scary, scary round three. There's going to be some hard hitters. I was just telling my husband about that. I'm like, you know, this round two stuff, it's still because I was going through grievances. And I'm like, honestly, there's not as much because, you know, there's still some songs that are, you know, that they're able to. But I said, round three, that's going to be tough. It's going to be hard.

[4:43] Andrew: It's going to get scary. It's going to get scary.

[4:47] Andrew: Um, okay, wait, so but like, thinking about like, what's happening presently, round two, what since your last appearance, Brie, let's start with you. What are these Glackett grievances that you would like to air out at this time?

[5:07] Brie: Well, I have, you will be glad to hear, I have calmed down since I messaged you in a freak out the other night about...

[5:15] Andrew: No, I was hoping that you would come with that same energy.

[5:22] Brie: Okay, you've calmed down a smidge, a smidge. So to serve with love versus mine.

[5:29] Brie: Look, I get it. I get it to serve with love is classic. It's beautiful. It's nostalgic. I you guys made some really beautiful and poignant points about Naya's a nice spot in that song, which is not, you know, I've always thought that too. I've always wondered because she did seem just a little bit too emotional. You know, I was like, is Naya going somewhere else with that? Is she bringing a deeper meaning? None of that is lost on me.

[5:59] Brie: And after that competition, I made it a point to look up both performances and watch them back to back. Even though I've seen them both a million times, and I still cannot wrap my mind around how you guys landed on to serve with love. Not only that, all three of you. That's crazy.

[6:21] Andrew: No, wait, so speak to speak minds good graces. What is it? What is it? What mine did to you? What it was?

[6:27] Brie: Yeah, I don't know. I thought you said minds good graces. And I was like, speak good graces about me now.

[6:39] Brie: Is this like a new young person expression? I don't know.

[6:43] Andrew: Oh my gosh, there's so many. Okay, enough with the glacket. Okay, now let's compliment me. It's a new bit that I'm trying out.

[6:51] Brie: I will not compliment you because you just voted out mine, Andrew.

[6:54] Andrew: Okay. All right. All right. Why? What? I mean, I understand mine is such a powerful contender on the glacket. What specifically is it doing for you, Bri?

[7:05] Brie: I, I think that, I mean, as you mentioned, it's genuine, like it's considered to be like actually a better version of the original song, which especially when it comes to Swifties, that's saying a lot.

[7:16] Andrew: Yeah.

[7:23] Brie: I think that her vocals are incredible. I think um, her acting performance is just absolutely ridiculously good. And Ian, you know, when he was speaking out, I knew exactly like what facial when he was talking about that line.

[7:35] Brie: And the ironic sort of, you know, look on her face. Yeah, I knew exactly what he was talking about. I can't watch it without crying. I think it's interesting because you guys spoke so beautifully on, you know, her Naya's, you know, what she brought to that coming out story and all that herself. And then we get mine after I wonder if I wonder, I wonder if those songs were reversed. Like if we got mine after you guys had that discussion, if things might have been a little bit different.

[8:05] Andrew: That is interesting. Something that I haven't considered before of like competitions potentially going another way, just based on the order in which they appear.

[8:17] Brie: I don't know, I still feel really strongly about To Serve With Love. I think that it is like such a beautiful ending to season one. Obviously, we already said that, you know, Somewhere Over the Rainbow is like the final song of season one, but like this was culmination of like all 12 of these like very different personas all joined together to say thank you to not only Mr. Schuster, but just as like, just like as a unit and as a club and all united.

[8:49] Brie: And so the emotionality of all of those people, as opposed to the emotionality of just like two people sharing is like, that's where I think the choice is coming for me. I love mine, stream it constantly. I think it's so beautiful. Like it's I think that I said in the last episode that it's like, only the only like the Santolo, like the second best Santolo for me, I think, without looking at a list, but I feel pretty confident in that.

[9:15] Andrew: Yeah, but it's To Serve With Love. Are we still liking To Serve With Love, Bri?

[9:21] Brie: Yes. Oh, absolutely. Don't get me wrong. Both songs belong in round three.

[9:28] Andrew: Yeah.

[9:36] Brie: But I just still I don't know, man. And when it comes to when it comes to bringing songs back, I think you said that some I wasn't there at the live stream, but you said someone at the chat was like, it's going to be like a shoe in until the final, you know, yeah.

[9:46] Andrew: And just watch that happen. And I'm I will not be okay on that day. Let me just put it that way.

[10:01] Andrew: Okay, exactly. And then they'll pull just that random ass song that will like, knock it out for my man is not coming back.

[10:12] Brie: Wait, wait, wait, what are you saying that you somebody said that like, when it comes for like options for songs to come back, sure, that it will be a shoe in up until that last, like, Oh, until the last episode of that.

[10:12] Brie: Yeah.

[10:21] Andrew: And it's right.

[10:21] Brie: Yeah, we're Oh, gosh. Um, don't even don't even talk to me. I'm so it's I don't know. I have a I have a weird. This is a third eye sort of feeling about this. This this next round of songs coming back with the song singular coming back that I don't know, I think that it's going to be very contested. I'm scared. I'm scared.

[10:43] Andrew: Yeah, you're a psychic Mexican third eye.

[10:55] Brie: I specifically left out Mexican. Because I am.

[10:55] Andrew: Um, wait, so so obviously that competition struck a chord with you. Were there others since your last appearance that didn't sit?

[11:00] Brie: Yeah, yeah, of course. Of course. Um, this one isn't like, particularly I'm not like particularly upset about it. But Thriller heads will roll. We've got tonight.

[11:14] Brie: You know, I'm a massive, massive Santana fan. Those vocals are incredible. I love Yeah, yes. You know, that performance is iconic. I do. I do wonder if maybe just like Ian said, and this same episode was pulled earlier on. He said, I don't know how he phrased it. But that one through three.

[11:34] Andrew: Yeah, exactly.

[11:40] Brie: And then you guys seem to have seemed like maybe to start with love had a little season one armor, but so I would have I would have gone we've got tonight. Even being even with the Santana of it all and Thriller heads will roll. We've got tonight is one of my absolute favorite Glee songs of all time. There's something about it. It's one of the very few songs on Glee that I actually didn't know at all. Before I heard it. Afterwards, I was like, Oh my god, it's so incredible. Let me look up the original. The original is crap. By the way, I can't even remember. I was like, Absolutely not. Don't make that mistake. Again.

[12:24] Brie: But I'm not really mad about that one. Marry you wishing and hoping again, not super mad, but so sad about wishing and hoping. But a theme with the Britannia, which I understand I know is the you know, pulling a lot of weight for you, Bri.

[12:40] Andrew: Yeah, but that's it. That's a common theme here with all these songs.

[12:46] Brie: It is Hold on. I've got some that aren't that. Let's see. Okay. Uninvited, Hungry Like the Wolf. Now she's going.

[12:52] Andrew: Hungry Like the Wolf, Rio is a it's I don't understand and I don't understand. I just don't think either of those songs are good separately and certainly not together.

[13:02] Brie: Whoa. That is crazy. Is it a hot take? I can't believe that many people.

[13:09] Andrew: What do you think?

[13:13] Brie: It's actually it's on my grievances list too. Because I love uninvited, right? Like uninvited. Obviously, I'm we're not alone saying I think that the mashup is so cool because I'm not I don't know much about Duran Duran. So I honestly don't know these songs separate. I just sing them together. I'm actually performing in a concert next month where we're doing an acoustic version of the Glee version of the songs mashed up together.

[13:30] Andrew: Oh, really?

[13:30] Brie: Yeah. So yeah, so I'm like, I love the song, but like, to pin them together, which one's the stronger and which one would I have liked to see in round three? For me, I'm an uninvited girly. I mean, it's just I fall on that list too. But I get it. It's kind of a very Duran Duran. It's just the music is niche. It's kind of weird. So I get why you're like, what do people see in this? But I think it's cool. But you know, I like weird and niche, but I just don't I don't know. I don't know. Nothing. It did nothing for me. It shocked me.

[14:10] Brie: I think that Rachel sounded so incredible on uninvited and so different than how she normally sounds. And I'm a big Alanis Morissette fan. So like, for her to kill a song in that way, you know, I'm so impressed. I've said it before. I believe that I think that those two songs, Hungry Like the Wolf, Rio and uninvited are so if I were to do the exercise, exercise of literally like ranking my own personal like 666 Glee songs, I think that they would be so close together. Like I that it's like truly there are certain competitions that it's like truly dependent on the day. Like I think that if the three of us were to have that same competition right...

[14:58] Andrew: I think that I might, and I don't know if this maybe this makes you upset to me here, but I think that may I, I think I would vote for "Uninvited" because like I'm feeling much more that song right now. But I mean, that's the nature of this entire thing that let's say my day. You know, yeah, hold it didn't you? You were like, I feel like because everyone in the chat was saying like, oh, "Uninvited," like you called that the polls were gonna reflect "Hungry Like the Wolf," and they did, didn't they?

[15:30] Brea: Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, there there's a discrepancy between the Instagram Gleeks and the, you know, the Gleeks in the chat of these live streams. It's weird on that.

[15:42] Andrew: Okay, wait, so Brea, what other ones come up for you?

[15:44] Brea: Uh, "Baby One More Time," "Spotlight," ooh.

[15:52] Emilee: Crazy, you and I are on the same track, Brea.

[15:54] Brea: No, it's Emilee. Here we go. Yes. Ah, what I know, I will probably offend people, but "Baby One More Time" is like the, it, Rachel singing that, that is a bad, it's a bad, terrible. I don't think she's ever sounded worse in the entirety of the show. I don't think she's ever sounded worse.

[16:21] Emilee: Really?

[16:22] Brea: Yes, watching her do it makes me uncomfortable. Watching her sing it, I'm like, girl, why did they? And it's just the thing where like they have to give Rachel a moment even when she really has no business having a moment with that.

[16:38] Andrew: Yeah, is it earned?

[16:39] Brea: Yeah, and I get, right, right, like they almost did her dirty by making her do that, making her do those dance moves, making her sing a song that is just so... I think that that's wrong.

[16:48] Emilee: No, no, I will say I'll agree with everything up until that point. I think that the recreation of the music video is very fun and very stupid, and just like, I think it's kind of silly to see Lea Michele do that. I think that's like a gift. We'll always have that. We'll always have Lea Michele doing like a shot-for-shot remake of "Baby One More Time." Like, I think that that's really special. Did it need to be done?

[17:15] Brea: However, is the larger question, and I mean, "Spotlight," absolutely robbed. I'm totally with you, robbed, robbed. "Spotlight" is so good. It was one of my favorite Mercedes songs.

[17:27] Emilee: Yeah, that one I was literally like, because I think that was the first competition I got, or no, that's not true, but it was one of the first ones after I was on that live stream.

[17:38] Brea: Yeah.

[17:38] Emilee: And I had my phone was, as you remember, I'd left it out in the rain, and so I didn't have my list of grievances, but I remember this episode, Eric, you shortly after that competition and being so pissed because I was like, I have something to get pissed about, and I was pissed about that one. I was like, I just don't, most of the time I could be pretty, like, you know, I can see both sides of it, be pretty, you know, diplomatic about it, but I was like, I don't understand how y'all...

[18:08] Andrew: Did you all three vote for "Baby One More Time"?

[18:12] Brea: No, no.

[18:13] Emilee: You know, I mean, I would be shocked if the tapes reflected that I voted for "Baby One More Time."

[18:19] Andrew: You did, Emilee?

[18:20] Emilee: I don't know. I'm gonna go review the tapes.

[18:27] Brea: Wait, there's no way. I feel like you did.

[18:30] Emilee: I don't, I think that that was an episode, I believe, without looking at it. Emilee, are you pulling it up right now?

[18:33] Emilee: You sure bet. I'm pulling it up right now.

[18:38] Andrew: Okay, that was, I believe, in Allison and Connor's episode, if I'm not mistaken. It was a while ago, and I think that they both of them were like fully gagged by the Brittany number.

[18:50] Brea: So, okay, and I was, ooh, check those tapes.

[18:58] Emilee: Yeah, what did you say it was? You said it was Connor and...

[19:04] Brea: I think it was Connor and Allison, a la mode's episode.

[19:08] Emilee: I will say this, at the very least, if you didn't vote for it, you didn't seem at all bothered by the fact that it went.

[19:13] Andrew: Oh my god, you're after my neck today.

[19:17] Emilee: That's just listen to this mine thing, like, you know, two days ago, it's like if you didn't vote for it, then you probably allowed it. You let this happen.

[19:30] Brea: You turned a blind eye.

[19:32] Emilee: You did. I really, I'm okay, this maybe I'll put it in the carousel or something, but like I am very confident that I did not vote for that song.

[19:44] Andrew: But anyway, so complacent. Is there anything else? I mean, like we're all pressed now. Well, where do you go from here?

[19:54] Brea: "Science Fiction" and "Mary the Night."

[19:56] Emilee: Yeah, we are.

[19:57] Andrew: You literally listening to?

[20:03] Brea: That's so funny. Wait, I mean, no, it's okay.

[20:07] Emilee: I'm finding this.

[20:09] Andrew: You're finding it right now in the moment.

[20:16] Emilee: Okay, yes. Okay. Didn't you? You keep talking.

[20:21] Andrew: Okay, so that competition? Yes, "Science Fiction," "Mary the Night." It's no secret, "Science Fiction" is one of my all-time faves, and I may, I didn't expect it to, I knew it was gonna lose at some point. Like, I didn't expect it to go super, super far, but I didn't think it would lose to a freaking Star Child song, you know what I mean? Adam Lambert is incredible, his vocals are incredible, but I agree with what you said. It doesn't really sound like a Glee song to me.

[20:45] Emilee: It just sounds like an Adam Lambert.

[20:48] Brea: Yeah, yeah, that one was heartbreaking.

[20:51] Emilee: I've got an issue with "Lose My Breath" in general because it's, this song has beat two songs that are, in my opinion, way, way better: "Dream a Little Dream" and "Give Up the Funk." How did this happen?

[21:06] Brea: And also, when you look at it, "Lose My Breath" is such an enigma to me on the Glacket because when you look at like "Give Up the Funk," it won against "Lucky." So when you do the math now, "Lose My Breath" is better than "Lucky," "Give Up the Funk," and, um, wait, what did it just went against?

[21:30] Emilee: Well, "Dream a Little Dream."

[21:31] Brea: Oh, and "Dream a Little Dream." Yeah, which is so much, I mean, yeah, that was, it's crazy.

[21:37] Emilee: It's an actual child singing and dancing inappropriately.

[21:42] Brea: But I think, can we not admit, can we not just like take a step back and be like that's kind of fun?

[21:48] Emilee: No, no, it is. It is kind of fun. And I forget what the actress's name is.

[21:53] Brea: Oh, Josie Tota, yeah, she killed it. I mean, hilarious. Don't get me wrong, but that it is just crazy how, yes, the tree can have...

[22:04] Emilee: There's no, absolutely.

[22:05] Brea: Yeah, I mean, I never even, I don't hate "Give Up the Funk" like people do. I don't really know why that one gets so much hate. I like it. I think it's fun.

[22:11] Emilee: Yeah, so that, there was that one, which I think it just thought the record show that was another one that was in, I'm not putting this on you to do now, Emilee, but that was in the Noah and Marshall episode, like toward the beginning of round two, and they both voted for "Lose My Breath," I think.

[22:29] Brea: Yeah, because of, yeah, this is our co-worker. We love her.

[22:39] Emilee: Yeah, right, right, right, fair. That's fair enough.

[22:44] Brea: Do you find, I don't know if you voted on the other one?

[22:48] Emilee: I didn't.

[22:49] Brea: Oh wait, so did I? Did I think it was, it was Allison and Matt?

[22:53] Emilee: Oh, Allison and Matt, okay.

[22:55] Brea: Okay, and they both voted, and you were just kind of like, so we're in agreement that this is going through?

[23:02] Emilee: And that's why I was like complicit.

[23:05] Brea: Wow, but you didn't say yay or nay, and if someone can come, if I'm wrong...

[23:10] Emilee: I was kind of trying to listen to both. Someone, you know, put in the comments, "Emilee, this is a first of coming on to record a podcast and listening to said podcast while recording the podcast."

[23:20] Brea: That's anyone's gonna do it, it's me.

[23:25] Emilee: It's gonna be you. I would gonna be made nothing.

[23:31] Andrew: Thank you for doing the work on that, Emilee. You know, we got it. We're out here doing God's work.

[23:37] Brea: Thank you for proving that Andrew is just a giant pile of shit.

[23:44] Emilee: They're still fresh, Andrew.

[23:46] Andrew: Stand, I understand. It's funny.

[23:51] Brea: Wait, so wait, what other ones are for you?

[23:59] Emilee: I don't have any more.

[24:04] Brea: Take my breath away versus listen.

[24:09] Emilee: Mm-hmm.

[24:10] Brea: These are older, but it's because I mean, I didn't have my notes the first time around, so...

[24:17] Emilee: "Dreamgirls" is one of my favorite musicals of all time. Love me some "Dreamgirls," but "Take My Breath Away," a Quintana do it, you know? I mean, that hurt.

[24:24] Brea: I recall. Yes, that one was hard.

[24:28] Emilee: I want to dance with somebody versus no air. I love no air, but come on, as a Britanny fan, you voted against it.

[24:37] Brea: Oh, me too. I like that one too.

[24:42] Emilee: Yeah, I've said it before, that's the pretend to do it that really doesn't do much for me.

[24:50] Brea: Yeah, I know, and I won't even get into that. We're not gonna get into that.

[24:56] Emilee: Love you like a love song, "Safety Dance." So I think this is for round one, yes.

[25:02] Brea: So I don't understand the hate on "Love You Like a Love Song," but I would have voted "Safety Dance" because it's a freaking classic.

[25:06] Emilee: It's classic.

[25:07] Brea: Yeah, and I'm surprised I, at the time, I didn't even realize how many people really don't like "Love You Like a Love Song," so I was kind of shocked that that went through.

[25:14] Emilee: But they're already in round one.

[25:18] Brea: But "Safety Dance" cracks me up because I watched, like later, you know, a few years ago, me and my mom watched the first three seasons of Glee together, and yeah, she casually dropped to me like randomly one day that she just like looks up "Safety Dance."

[25:35] Emilee: Oh, that's fun.

[25:38] Brea: It's the thought of my almost 70-year-old mother probably high as a kite just watching "Safety Dance" at random is like so funny to me. It just goes to show how iconic it is.

[25:50] Emilee: "Love You Like a Love Song," I feel like now it even has like a bigger target on its back because of like how...

[25:58] Brea: It's getting...

[25:59] Emilee: I can agree. You're okay with "Love You Like a Love Song," if I understand correctly, right?

[26:04] Brea: Yeah, I love it. I think it's super fun, but I know that people kind of like, that's it. People like, that's their black it, like, oh, I can't wait until that girl gets brought down, right?

[26:10] Emilee: Because what did it beat last time?

[26:15] Brea: I feel like it was something that you have it open.

[26:20] Emilee: Open, okay.

[26:24] Brea: No, I might not have to. I don't have the Glacket open yet.

[26:30] Emilee: Oh wait, wait, I got it lacking slacking while glacking.

[26:33] Brea: Oh, title episode.

[26:36] Emilee: I know, wow, that's great.

[26:36] Brea: Yes, "Defying Gravity," season 5. I love "Defying Gravity."

[26:43] Emilee: Hmm, I whispered it because I know it's not a popular...

[26:47] Brea: Wait, so you would have voted for it?

[26:56] Emilee: Yeah, you both would have voted for "Defying Gravity," or no?

[26:58] Brea: I would have been a bit torn on that one.

[27:03] Emilee: Much as I love "Wicked," I, you know, it was like a redo, and not most of the "Wicked" songs they do, they don't hit for me.

[27:08] Brea: Yeah, so I don't know. I would have to think about that.

[27:11] Emilee: But I definitely don't hate it. I mean, I think it knocks the original out of the park.

[27:13] Brea: I remember when that song came out initially and like actively making fun of it out loud, being like "Love You Like a Love Song," I'm like repeat beat. I was like, wow, cool lyrics, bro, and then when we did it, I was like so cute. They've got little pronoun changes. I'm sucker.

[27:29] Emilee: Oh, yeah, change.

[27:30] Brea: I will say when you brought up "I Want to Dance with Somebody," every time I hear that out, which is like literally you can go anywhere and that's playing, but I mean like I, I'm always singing along to the pronoun change. I'm just like, I'm like I...

[27:47] Emilee: Even though I don't really, I'm not the biggest fan of "I Want to Dance with Somebody," Glee casters, my Glee cast, I still respect the pronoun change of that.

[27:52] Brea: Yeah.

[27:57] Emilee: And then the final gripe would be "Dancing with Myself" losing to "I Love New York, New York."

[28:06] Brea: That was a long time ago.

[28:07] Emilee: I know, "Dancing with Myself" is another like already classic.

[28:13] Brea: Yeah, and I get it, it's fun to watch them all run around, New York. I love, you know, seeing them do it, that whole performance is adorable. Again, you know, love me some Santana vocals, but yeah, those, that, it's terrible to me.

[28:25] Emilee: In fact, I think the song is so bad that I, for the longest time, thought it was a Glee original.

[28:35] Brea: Oh.

[28:36] Emilee: I thought the lyrics were so like elementary that it had to be like a Glee original that made me feel like a dork.

[28:41] Brea: Oh.

[28:46] Emilee: Gosh, this is the worst Glee original of all, and then I only found out within the past couple years that it is not a Madonna song.

[28:51] Brea: Yeah, and I freaking love Madonna, but I'm like, Madonna, why girl? Like the worst lyrics come from her side of things too.

[29:00] Andrew: Yeah.

[29:01] Emilee: No, but I also really liked it. You brought up the, um, RD erasure of round one, and yeah, I feel bad about that bit. Like I feel that they're like never going back again is at least seeing round three.

[29:16] Brea: I think that we stopped, like "Isn't She Lovely" still around?

[29:19] Emilee: You have to pull about a baby.

[29:22] Brea: Maybe, um, but yeah, I, gosh, yeah, that he was done quite dirty.

[29:26] Emilee: Yeah, it was. We didn't understand the nature of the Glacket, you know, back in round one.

[29:34] Brea: Easier time. We thought we'd have all this time to correct our mistake.

[29:36] Emilee: Oh no, we're all the RD songs.

[29:43] Brea: One moment you wake up, only have two RD songs to your name.

[29:54] Andrew: This is not too bad. Not too bad. Not too bad. Thank you for going easy on me. I appreciate it.

[30:01] Emilee: So Brea, you and I were on track for a lot of the same things. So I only had four, which is amazing. But two of them we already talked about. But I did want to add one of mine also was mine. And I am not a Swiftie, right? Like, so I'm not a Taylor Swift fan. She was one of the two artists that I said do not play her at my wedding. Like, she is not for me. But the breakup is, in my opinion, the best episode of the entire show.

[30:35] Brea: Really?

[30:36] Emilee: Yeah. Best episode. Not a flop. There's not any... the story, the acting, just everything. It is the perfect however many minutes of television for me, which is hilarious, because it's like, everything's ending, right? Everything's bad. But for me, I just loved it. So "To Sir With Love" is such a snooze for me.

[30:59] Brea: Really? Snooze? That's so cruel.

[31:03] Emilee: I know. I know. I'm awful. But it's just like, it's boring. And I'm like, I get it that like, they no one knew, right, if they were coming back or not. But for me, it was just like, there are five more seasons, people. Like, this is the end of season one. We got five more seasons. So for me, the competition was easy. But yeah, especially what Bree said as well. So completely on the same page with you there.

[31:31] Andrew: Okay. Okay.

[31:33] Emilee: Biggest grievance of the Glacket. Wee-oo, wee-oo.

[31:38] Brea: Here come the Glacket police.

[31:41] Emilee: Yeah. Uh, "Go Your Own Way" versus "L.O.V.E."

[31:44] Brea: Okay, again, we are bringing this up. It's a new bit alert. Wee-oo, wee-oo.

[31:50] Emilee: Bringing it up every episode.

[31:52] Brea: Yeah. I can't. I can't. I can't. So, you know, we've all been talking about the Rolos and the, you know, how many there are and the best Rolos. "Go Your Own Way" is my number three Rolo.

[32:04] Emilee: Okay, only behind what?

[32:06] Brea: "My Man" and "Drump." It goes "My Man," "Drump," "Go Your Own Way."

[32:10] Emilee: Okay, that is wild.

[32:12] Brea: It's incredible. Best song on the Rumors episode.

[32:17] Emilee: What?

[32:18] Brea: You know, just, yeah.

[32:20] Emilee: Okay, all right. Okay.

[32:23] Brea: "Songbird," literally right there.

[32:25] Emilee: Yeah, right.

[32:25] Brea: Saying hi.

[32:26] Emilee: Okay, okay, okay. Shared with "Songbird." I can say that because "Songbird" is really up there, too.

[32:33] Brea: Yeah, I mean, we just brought him up. "Never Going Back Again."

[32:36] Emilee: That is a guitar solo. That is a guitar chorus.

[32:39] Brea: It is crazy how, like, there's, like, hardly any singing in that song.

[32:43] Emilee: Musically, yes. Great song, right? Like, musically beautiful.

[32:47] Brea: Finn plays guitar for the only time in the entire series.

[32:51] Emilee: But "Go Your Own Way" is such a breath of fresh air. It's different because it's sung by a completely different gendered person. It is vindictive Rachel. I like it. She's being sassy. She's being, you know, definitely different than she is. I love to see the rage in Quinn's eyes. I just, everything about that performance, you just, Corey is being Corey and genuine, and it is just everything to me. So when it went again, and you know what? For me, if it would have lost against something else, I might not be so ragey about it.

[33:29] Emilee: But "Love is What You Hate"?

[33:32] Brea: That is, like, bottom 10 worst songs of the whole show.

[33:37] Emilee: "Love is What Emily hates." That's so bad.

[33:40] Brea: I hate love. It's awful. It's so boring.

[33:45] Emilee: Oh, you're saying it's awful?

[33:47] Brea: Awful. Awful.

[33:48] Emilee: Wait, why awful? What makes it awful, though?

[33:52] Brea: It's just, the song is so boring.

[33:55] Emilee: Okay, do you like the original?

[33:57] Brea: No!

[33:58] Emilee: Really?

[33:59] Brea: It's incredible.

[34:00] Emilee: That's a really, I mean, this is why it's always fun recording with you, Emily, because I feel like you have these opinions that are completely out of left field.

[34:11] Brea: It's rage. It's like, just, just, just, like, boring, and just not, it's not. And then, I will say, vocals, it is a Mike Chang number, right? He sounds great. Jenna, Akshwit, they also, they sound wonderful. They sound beautiful together. But it's just, like, so, like, it makes me want to just, like, scratch my eyes out. Boring. And, like, just not for me. So.

[34:40] Emilee: Okay.

[34:41] Brea: Those are my opinions.

[34:41] Emilee: You don't like, so Too Long, Don't Read, you don't like the song.

[34:44] Brea: TDRF, oh, it's the worst.

[34:46] Emilee: The MP4, the MP4 certainly holds a lot of, a lot more weight than the MP3, for sure.

[34:52] Brea: Okay.

[34:53] Emilee: I mean.

[34:54] Brea: It's just terrible.

[34:56] Emilee: So you don't think, so you don't think the video is cute with all the Valentine stuff?

[35:00] Brea: No, with the arty stuff. I mean, it's, it's, I don't know, it just feels like filler.

[35:04] Emilee: It just feels like filler to me.

[35:05] Brea: And it was an inspired choice. I mean, like, I think that "Heart" is one of my favorite episodes of the series.

[35:10] Emilee: No, you do not agree? You don't like "Heart"?

[35:14] Brea: It's not bad. It's just, it feels like a filler episode.

[35:17] Emilee: Oh my god, I could.

[35:18] Brea: I love "Heart." I'm with you, Andrew.

[35:19] Emilee: I can't disagree more, because I think that, like, "Heart" is one of those episodes, like, I'm thinking, like, "Yes, No," and "Asian F," and, like, "Hold On To The Scene," where, like, they have all of these, like, these, it's like an, feels very ensemble. And, like, "Heart," specifically, I feel every single character is given, like, at least, like, one thing to do, you know? And they're not, like, shrubbery, you know, like Mike and Tina.

[35:47] Brea: I guess. I don't know. It just feels kind of like we haven't heard from them in a while, so let's throw them a bone in this episode.

[35:53] Emilee: But, like, I like hearing from them still.

[35:55] Brea: I mean, I do, too. And I'm not saying that I don't, because, don't get me wrong, I am, like, big advocates for, you know, Tina and Mike, and all the people who didn't get a lot to do. You know, especially around that time, I loved, like, "Asian F," like, I agree with you, stellar, stellar episode, one of the top five, you know, really love that storyline. But I don't know, it just, something about it, every time I watch it, I'm just like, I just, I don't know. It definitely is just, okay. Obviously, you know, that's just me. But the real reason is because I just love "Go Your Own Way" so much. So I guess more or less that I'm cranky about it, because...

[36:36] Emilee: You cannot wait for the day where "Love" is voted out of the Glacket.

[36:40] Brea: I'm coming for you, love.

[36:44] Emilee: Audio medium, I'm shaking my fist.

[36:46] Brea: Shaking my fist at love.

[36:49] Emilee: I'm scared.

[36:49] Brea: That's all I had for it, right? That's all I had for my grievances.

[36:53] Andrew: Okay, incredible. Okay, wait, so I feel like we're, we're, we're in for a fun recording with all of that being said. Wait, just I forgot to look it up before. Bri, what was your, you have, you were only on a live episode a few months ago with Connor. What was that competition?

[37:12] Brea: Oh, I'm glad you asked. It was "Time Warp" versus "I Will Always Love You."

[37:17] Emilee: Oh, that one went down in infamy. People were...

[37:20] Brea: Yes. And this actually reminds me I'm so sorry to distract, but I've got to ask Emily something. I did some light stalking on your Instagram page before this recording. Did you play Eddie in a production of "Rocky Horror"?

[37:33] Emilee: I did. I played both Eddie and Dr. Scott.

[37:37] Brea: Are there videos of this? I've never seen a female Eddie ever.

[37:41] Emilee: Oh, yeah. What's her name from "Orange is the New Black" played her.

[37:46] Brea: Laura Laverne Cox.

[37:48] Emilee: No, no.

[37:49] Brea: That was she played Frankenfurter.

[37:51] Emilee: Played Frankenfurter.

[37:54] Brea: Laura Prepon?

[37:55] Emilee: No, her name is Leah.

[37:59] Brea: Yes, yeah. There's a recorded version of her playing both of those roles.

[38:03] Emilee: Oh my god.

[38:05] Brea: Yes, I have I have video somewhere I actually have on my Instagram. I did makeup videos because I had to transition my makeup throughout the show. So I did like a like a time lapse of all of my like blood makeup and then into being, you know, a man with a mustache and curly hair.

[38:21] Emilee: Must find these videos not to put you on the spot. I will inquire privately.

[38:25] Brea: Yes, definitely. Yeah, I'll have to find something. So yeah, no, I am a I am a theater girlie. But yes, it's fun seeing all the "Rocky Horror" stuff after doing a production of it.

[38:34] Andrew: That's super awesome. All right. Sorry, Andrew.

[38:37] Brea: Oh, no, no, this is I feel like now are we that kind of answers a little bit of the manifestation potentially? We're looking for some "Rocky Horror"?

[38:48] Emilee: Yes.

[38:50] Andrew: I mean, I'm never gonna turn down some "Rocky Horror."

[38:51] Emilee: Agree, agree.

[38:52] Brea: You're not gonna turn down?

[38:52] Andrew: Wait, but that was okay. So "Time Warp" versus "I Will Always Love You." Bri, you voted for "Time Warp." I think that we all did.

[39:00] Brea: We all did.

[39:01] Emilee: Yeah.

[39:01] Andrew: Emily, do you I mean, I would assume that you would also?

[39:05] Emilee: Yeah.

[39:06] Andrew: "I Will Always Love You." Again, kind of, I mean, beautiful. Everything she sings, right?

[39:11] Emilee: Yeah.

[39:11] Andrew: But, you know, way better. Mersolos.

[39:15] Emilee: It's just, you know, kind of a me.

[39:18] Brea: I feel like every time that I say something about a Mersolo, it gets me into trouble. So I'm going to keep my cards.

[39:25] Emilee: I'll say it as many times as it comes for me.

[39:28] Andrew: Emily, you're scared.

[39:30] Emilee: Emily is scared.

[39:30] Andrew: Okay, so "Rocky Horror," potentially what other what are we really like manifesting for today's recording?

[39:42] Brea: So I was looking at the plug for the playlist.

[39:46] Emilee: Plug for the playlist plug, yeah.

[39:48] Brea: The round two songs that are remaining and like, there's a bunch of heavy hitters left that of course, I would be honored to pull.

[39:57] Emilee: Say the names.

[39:57] Brea: I mean, we've still got "Brave," "Gloria," "I Feel Pretty."

[40:02] Emilee: Still haven't found what I'm looking for.

[40:04] Brea: "Not Gonna Teach Your Boyfriend." "It's All Coming Back to Me Now." "A Landslide." "My Man." "Nutbush City Limits." "Shake It Out." "Survival I Will Survive." "Boy Is Mine." "Valerie." And then I don't know if this is for me a heavy hitter. "You Learn" and "You've Got a Friend." Those are the ones.

[40:24] Emilee: I like that one too.

[40:26] Brea: Yeah, I do too.

[40:27] Emilee: That's one of my favorites.

[40:28] Brea: Yeah.

[40:28] Emilee: But what I'm actually even though I just had that whole list there, what I'm actually going to manifest today are the songs that I love. And I don't know if everybody else like I don't know how the Gleeks feel about it overall. So if I can help it go through while I'm here, I'm going to manifest those songs.

[40:51] Brea: Okay, we're quietly manifesting that because we if we speak it aloud, then it potentially would not happen or.

[40:59] Emilee: Yeah, let's quietly manifest.

[41:01] Brea: I will tell you that two of the songs I had on my list you pulled in the last episode, which were "Starships" and "Without You."

[41:08] Emilee: Oh, against each other.

[41:09] Brea: Yes.

[41:09] Emilee: Yeah.

[41:11] Brea: I had both of those on my list for like songs I would like to speak for, but maybe not anyone else.

[41:17] Emilee: Yes, even "Starships."

[41:18] Brea: I love "Starships," but I'm not ashamed to say it.

[41:20] Emilee: What would you vote for in that competition?

[41:24] Brea: I would have voted for "Without You."

[41:25] Emilee: Okay, okay.

[41:26] Brea: But I mean, I do love "Starships." I think it's fun.

[41:29] Emilee: I think it's fun.

[41:30] Brea: It is fun.

[41:31] Emilee: The whole thing about it is like the people seem to just like think the higher than any other is so ridiculous.

[41:37] Brea: Which, okay, I get it. But like, when that song came out was on the radio, at least like in my area, when they would air it on like the top 40 station, instead of changing the lyrics, they would just say motherfucker, but barely scrambled.

[41:53] Emilee: And so it sounded...

[41:54] Brea: Sure, I remember this.

[41:56] Emilee: It still sounded like motherfucker, but just like a little stupider.

[42:00] Brea: So I'm like, higher than any other isn't any dumber to me than doing that.

[42:04] Emilee: So for me, I was just like, it's fine.

[42:06] Brea: Like, what would you have changed it with? You know what I mean?

[42:08] Emilee: That's so funny, like unique throwing her voice to make it sound like she's censoring it.

[42:13] Brea: Yeah, that's good.

[42:14] Emilee: You know, it's dumb either way.

[42:15] Brea: Anyway, yeah, so I will list off those ones and I'm just gonna hope we pull them.

[42:20] Emilee: Okay.

[42:21] Brea: All right, perfect. You can let us know if we get them.

[42:24] Emilee: I'm excited.

[42:25] Andrew: I'm excited to see.

[42:26] Emilee: Well, I love, you know, the classics. "My Man," "A Landslide."

[42:32] Brea: Yeah, I do too.

[42:35] Emilee: "Drumps," you know, obviously.

[42:39] Brea: I love a three.

[42:43] Emilee: "Happy Days Are Here Again." That's like a quiet favorite of mine.

[42:48] Brea: Also, where's one I just saw? Because I'm just scrolling through this list real fast.

[42:52] Emilee: Oh, I'm manifesting a little "Cold Hearted."

[42:55] Brea: Oh, okay.

[42:56] Emilee: "Anaya, Anaya, Little Cold Hearted Snakes" and Paula Abdul. So yeah.

[42:59] Brea: "Cold Hearted" is like a honorable mention, the Santolo. I feel like no one is really like talking about that as much as "Valerie" or a "Nutbush City Limits" or like even like a "Mine" or "Back to Black."

[43:13] Emilee: Yeah. Honestly, I think it's because of the season four of it all. And sometimes it's kind of the back half of season four. So people kind of forget about it.

[43:21] Brea: So I know a lot of people drop off after three. So I think it's one of those that it's like, oh yeah, she exists in a good way.

[43:28] Emilee: Okay, we're gonna root for her.

[43:30] Brea: I agree. And like a good storyline, too. I like that storyline. I think it's fun. Her funniest work is in that storyline. Just it. I mean, we've talked about it with the "Come What May" of it all, but like, just hilarious. She's too good.

[43:44] Andrew: This is a wild first song of the episode.

[43:50] Brea: Oh god.

[43:51] Emilee: This is, I would go as far to say maybe the least talked about song on the hit Fox show, "Glee."

[43:59] Brea: A song that I care for.

[44:04] Emilee: Oh wait, now I'm doing the thing.

[44:06] Brea: Yeah, you are doing the thing.

[44:07] Andrew: Okay, okay. Do we know what it is?

[44:10] Emilee: We're looking, Audio Medium, we're looking at Hands at a Piano.

[44:14] Brea: Okay. Someone wearing purple. Do you have any idea what it is?

[44:18] Emilee: Uh, no.

[44:22] Brea: I'm, I can't, it's Man Hands.

[44:24] Emilee: Man Hands.

[44:25] Brea: It's a very famous man. It's, are you ready?

[44:29] Emilee: Oh, is this, is this "You're the Top"?

[44:32] Brea: It is "You're the Top."

[44:33] Emilee: That's what I was thinking.

[44:34] Brea: That's what I was thinking.

[44:36] Emilee: "You're the Top."

[44:38] Brea: "You're an arrow collar."

[44:40] Emilee: "You're the Top."

[44:42] Brea: "You're a Coolidge dolly."

[44:44] Emilee: "You're the nimble tread of the feet of Fred Astaire."

[44:47] Brea: "You're an O'Neill drama."

[44:48] Emilee: "You're a whistler's mum."

[44:49] Brea: "You're a camembert."

[44:52] Emilee: How come we never do this?

[45:13] Brea: Okay, very short and to the point. I love it, though. Who wants to start us in the discourse?

[45:21] Emilee: I'll start. Okay. It just cracked. I mean, that thin line gets me every time. Why don't we do this? And Carol just being like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[45:33] Brea: It's funny. I mean, it's from Anything Goes, which is one of my favorite musicals of all time. It's cute, but I'm curious about the time. You know, it's obviously not the shortest song in the Glockett, but it's gotta be, right? Right up there?

[45:51] Emilee: I mean, Crush has that to its name.

[45:54] Brea: It's gotta be number two. Maybe three. I'd be curious to know the specs on that.

[46:01] Emilee: I'm trying to think. A lot of the Tina songs that get cut off are not part of the Glockett.

[46:10] Brea: That's what I mean Glockett-wise, I guess.

[46:12] Emilee: Glockett-wise. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I Fellow Rivers is still longer than this.

[46:16] Brea: But yeah, this has to be down there. But I'm like, I didn't need it to be any longer, personally.

[46:23] Emilee: Sure, sure. Right. It's cute. I mean, you get a little duet. I mean, that's the most of their singing in the show, right? You know, at least while Brian Stokes Mitchell is a very famous singer known for his vocals, Jeff Goldblum.

[46:40] Brea: Have we seen Jeff Goldblum? I mean, like, he's obviously going to be singing like everyone's favorite song from Wicked, Sentimental Man. But have we seen Jeff Goldblum sing? I'm sure we must have.

[46:56] Emilee: I feel like I might be turning in my musical theatre card if I don't know the answer to this, but I don't think I've really seen him in anything.

[47:03] Brea: I can already hear the gleeks.

[47:05] Emilee: I know. Come for me. Come for me.

[47:08] Brea: Do you not remember this off-Broadway production that Jeff Goldblum did in 2002?

[47:12] Emilee: Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. I didn't rack my brain.

[47:16] Brea: Nobody should be coming for Emily, okay? She was shaking her fist earlier.

[47:20] Emilee: At love.

[47:21] Brea: Very scary. She hates love. She's a tough broad, okay? But no, I mean, it's cute. It's a very, you know, it shows who they are in a snapshot, right? It shows everything you need to know about this family in an instant.

[47:35] Emilee: Oh my gosh, and I know that I just said that I didn't need anything more from it, but I mean, it does kind of make me, it does make me remorseful for, like, we could have gotten so much more of, like, any parents, you know? If they didn't cast such huge names, it's just like Jeff Goldblum, the second he shows up as Rachel's dad, it's like, okay, your time is already ticking. You're already on your way out because you are not going to be, like, a recurring character on this show.

[48:08] Brea: But they can't afford Jeff Goldblum to be a recurring character.

[48:12] Emilee: It's just like, I would have loved, I don't know, that was my major gripe. I remember, like, watching, like, the first season of Glee for the first time, and I was like, I can't wait to find out, like, who more, like, these characters' parents are. Like, we really only get Bert for, like, season one. Do we get, like, anybody else in season one?

[48:31] Brea: Now I'm like—

[48:31] Emilee: Or you get Carol.

[48:33] Brea: Carol, Carol, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we don't really—

[48:37] Emilee: Some of Quinn's parents.

[48:38] Brea: Oh, Quinn's parents, of course.

[48:39] Emilee: Sure, sure.

[48:41] Brea: Yeah, but it's like, I wish that we could have, like, you know, like, I wish that it was more, like, a—home life, obviously, you know, is such a—it's so effective of, you know, a teenager's life, and I would have loved to see it more. Yeah.

[48:56] Emilee: Yeah, it would have been interesting. I think that it would have definitely added a layer of the show and getting to know characters a little bit more. But when you have so many characters, you know, it's kind of hard to do that. But yeah, I mean, it was—it's—I think that it was done really well. I think it's—it's a fun song. Doesn't need to go to round three, in my opinion.

[49:16] Brea: Probably not. But it could go against something that I'm like, okay, you know, that really should not be in round three. So I guess we'll just see.

[49:27] Emilee: We'll have to see. Brie, you've been very quiet. I'm so curious to hear your thoughts on this, this stellar performance.

[49:36] Brea: I mean, if this—look, no hate on this song. It is cute. It's funny. Drunk Carol is probably my favorite part, if I'm honest.

[49:44] Emilee: Carol's really fun after two glasses of wine.

[49:47] Brea: She starts getting toasted, and she's, like, enjoying this so much. It—correct me if I'm—has it been brought up, the implications of this song, or that—what's the word I'm looking for? Like the double entendre, or not even double entendre.

[50:01] Emilee: Yeah, double entendre, right?

[50:04] Brea: Yeah. That's—they were doing something there, right? They had to be.

[50:07] Emilee: Oh, that's—I mean, if they even, like, did it—like, is it the scene before or after that I—they continue the joke with the, um, the conversation about, uh, like, Lube, um, where they're—

[50:21] Brea: Right, with the car, about the car.

[50:23] Emilee: Yeah, and I think, like, is it, like, is it Brian Stokes Mitchell that, like, walks in and was, like, what are we talking about? And they're, like, cars, yeah.

[50:29] Brea: We're talking about cars.

[50:32] Emilee: So yeah, if that's the intention, then I love that. That's hilarious. I love a good double entendre. Um, but yeah, I mean, it's fun. It's cute. It's—it's probably not round three material, but I don't hate it, you know?

[50:44] Brea: Yeah.

[50:45] Emilee: Definitely don't hate it. I do really, like, I feel like, um, I should have brought this—looked this up while, uh—

[50:52] Brea: Oh, to see what it was against.

[50:53] Emilee: I feel like it was against—let's see. It was against, um, it was actually the first song pulled in the third episode of this podcast, um, over three years ago. And it was the first song pulled in that episode, and it won against Jingle Bell Rock, um—

[51:10] Brea: Pardon me.

[51:13] Emilee: Do we agree with that decision?

[51:14] Brea: I do.

[51:15] Emilee: Okay, thank you.

[51:17] Brea: Yes.

[51:18] Emilee: Um, I really like this. I really love—it always, like, makes me so, like, happy to see Lea Michele. But a baby on the bottom—but a baby—but a baby on the bottom.

[51:31] Brea: But a baby on the bottom.

[51:33] Emilee: Yeah.

[51:33] Brea: But it's funny.

[51:34] Emilee: I think it's so funny. I'm glad that we have that too, you know?

[51:37] Brea: Right.

[51:38] Emilee: We will always have that.

[51:40] Brea: Yeah, yeah. Super cute.

[51:42] Emilee: Yeah, but I don't know. Is there anything else that we can even say about how long was that performance? That was—

[51:49] Brea: This is why we need Emily. Emily would have been able to tell us right away what—or sorry, not Emily. Sorry, Amelia.

[51:55] Emilee: Amelia.

[51:55] Brea: That's why we need Amelia. She would have been able to tell us immediately what the shortest songs on Glee are. You should just keep her on standby for—

[52:04] Emilee: Hey, this is the—this is our recording schedule, Amelia.

[52:07] Brea: Yeah, once a week.

[52:08] Emilee: Glee correspondence.

[52:09] Brea: Um, yep. So we—so we like it generally, but we're not feeling too optimistic about it.

[52:15] Emilee: I guess it depends.

[52:16] Brea: It fully does.

[52:17] Emilee: All depends.

[52:19] Brea: Okay, next song.

[52:25] Emilee: Ooh, okay. Another musical song?

[52:29] Brea: Emily Thrill! Emily Thrill! You do whatever you want to do. I've told you that every time I come here.

[52:33] Emilee: I'm just saying, generally, it is a song also from a musical.

[52:37] Brea: Oh, okay.

[52:38] Emilee: Well, I like that.

[52:40] Brea: Okay. Um.

[52:42] Emilee: I do like to guess what it is, though, like if you went from the picture.

[52:45] Brea: Yeah.

[52:45] Emilee: I like that.

[52:45] Brea: Oh, you're gonna know exactly what this is.

[52:47] Emilee: Oh, good.

[52:48] Brea: Are you ready?

[52:51] Emilee: This was on my list. This was on my list.

[52:53] Brea: Oh, yes.

[52:55] Emilee: There are worse things I could do.

[52:57] Brea: Oh, yes.

[53:07] ♪ Musical number: "There Are Worse Things I Could Do" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[55:07] Emilee: Oh, God, I love this song so much.

[55:09] Brea: It's my favorite song from Grease.

[55:12] Emilee: Yeah, I was, you know, I watched Grease when I was very young. And it was like raised on it. And I remember even then understanding that like, you know, Rizzo's situation, it was just so nuanced to me, you know, like, I got and I felt for her, even though, you know, I was like, six years old. And what the hell do I know about any of that?

[55:33] Brea: And I feel like, as Santana said in the episode, she was like, I was born to play this part. Like, I've known all the words since I was four or whatever that was. She absolutely killed it.

[55:44] Emilee: I at the time I was like, when it aired, I was disappointed that it wasn't all Santana. I don't agree with that anymore. Because I love I love the intercuts. I think it's great for the story.

[55:54] Brea: Yeah.

[55:55] Emilee: She's acting her ass off. Those like longing looks she's giving. She sounds great.

[56:01] Brea: They all sound great, really.

[56:03] Emilee: They did.

[56:04] Brea: And I'm gonna feel really bad if this is like a legit thing. I've never noticed that Alex Newell's feet like in any other scene stick out like that.

[56:14] Emilee: And I feel like they did them dirty.

[56:17] Brea: Audio medium, how would you describe?

[56:19] Emilee: Like the opposite of Pigeon Toad, like sticking out like a clown shoes.

[56:23] Brea: And so I always thought that they did Unique dirty by starting with that shot of when she first walks in. It looks like literal clown shoes.

[56:34] Emilee: So that's the only negative.

[56:37] Brea: Is that deducting some points or?

[56:40] Emilee: Not even really. It's kind of funny. But I just feel bad for her that they showed her feet like that. Because it was like, I've never seen her walk like that for her life. It was like, yeah, the shoes they put her in were like comically bad. And she just walked in all stupid. But aside from that, great.

[56:55] Brea: I'm not looking at that as much as I'm looking at the guy at the end when she's walking down.

[57:00] Emilee: Brea, you're nodding your head.

[57:01] Brea: Yes, yes, I wrote a note about it. Just staring.

[57:05] Emilee: Staring at everyone else. Because like, it's, I mean, I feel like I'm saying the quiet part out loud. Like, it's obvious that this is just like Unique's imagination that she's walking toward the stage. And no one is actually witnessing this person walk toward the stage.

[57:18] Brea: But there is one extra that is so captivated.

[57:22] Emilee: Do you wait, Bri, do you not?

[57:24] Brea: I've never I've never noticed this.

[57:26] Emilee: I noticed it recently. And I was just like, now I can't I look for it every time I see this.

[57:32] Brea: And it's like, who put that extra on the end?

[57:35] Emilee: No, he's fully, fully watching.

[57:38] Brea: He's like, forget, forget Santana. I need to know what's going on here.

[57:41] Emilee: This dude has the sixth sense. He can see things that no one else can. And he likes it.

[57:45] Brea: Um, but yeah, I don't think that that's also like, that's not deducting. I think that's actually adding points for me that it's like, I think it's so fun that this extra is never fully out of it.

[57:59] Emilee: Um, I love like a Glee is one of those episodes that I was like under like this guys that like, I thought like, Oh, I don't think I because I'm not the biggest fan of Grease as a musical. So it was like, okay, Umbrella, like under Grease, like I'm not liking the Glee episode, but I watched it in the past year. And there's so much going on. It is one of those like ensemble episodes where like, like this quick time that I have the screen recording of their worst things I could do. This performance ends and then it goes like into like this very quick Mike and Tina scene that it's like, we didn't need a Mike and Tina scene. Like there are a lot of episodes where we don't get a Mike and Tina scene.

But like, they're like, they're, I feel like there's like a pin in so many different storylines that they're like, Hey, we're just covering our bases here. And everybody is like an active participant in this story, which I really appreciate even like this song where it's like, this could have very easily been on like one of the like a weaker Glee episode, it could have just been like a Santana solo, which would have been great, you know, but like the fact that it's like in engaging with so many with two other storylines. I really love. I think it's great.

[59:20] Brea: Yeah, I agree. I agree. Um, but yeah, back when it first came out, I was just so, you know, salty about Santana barely being there that I was like, just make it a Santolo. But yeah, no, I completely agree. It made it made total sense to tie the other things. And, um, Kate Hudson, man, she really, that girl sounds and looks amazing in every single scene that she's in on this show.

[59:44] Emilee: For real. She killed it.

[59:49] Brea: The same thing I just said. I think Kate Hudson, there's so many guest stars on this show that aren't actively participating, I feel, with story. But the fact that Kate Hudson is autonomous in making these choices, I think is very, very fun. It's not like, hey, we're looking at Kate Hudson. It's just like, oh, it's fun that she's here. She's actually doing things that shift the story, which I always appreciate. And I always thought that this song has the same exact ingredients as "Constant Craving," where it's a Santana solo performance. She's performing it alone, but then a guest star comes in, Kate Hudson and Idina Menzel, respectively. And also, Kurt and Younique also have parts on each of those songs, which I think is funny that it happened twice.

Yeah, I can't really get down with "Constant Craving," no matter how good the three is. I love that song. I think it's a beautiful song. I think they all sound great. My hatred for that episode just tarnishes everything it touches. It's so hard for me to get down with any single part of that. And also, I do think that Shelby is the villain of this show, the true villain of the show, too.

[1:01:18] Emilee: The mp3, you gotta just listen to that sweet, sweet mp3.

[1:01:22] Brea: No, the mp3 is great. But again, I know that it's just my feelings tarnishing it. But I hate that episode so much. Even the really good things about it are so hard for me to enjoy, because it was so damn offensive.

[1:01:37] Emilee: It's fair.

[1:01:38] Brea: It's I think, what, I think probably the worst episode of the show. It's just really bad how badly they fumbled it.

[1:01:45] Emilee: Yeah, man, you would think that it's like a song that had that much focus on Santana would be one of my favorites, but it like sincerely, my breasts ache with rage. I cannot and it takes a lot to offend me like, no one loves a good lesbian joke more than me. But like I was, it's actively offensive. So it's hard for me to enjoy. But I do recognize it's a maybe one of these days I'll get over "Constant Craving." Can't do it. This one. Yeah, toe to toe, this one would always win against "Constant Craving" for me.

[1:02:16] Brea: Yeah. Wait, Emilee, what do you what are you thinking?

[1:02:20] Emilee: Well, for I think this one is it's definitely the highlight of the Glees storyline for me. I am, you know, as an active community theater person, "Grease" is so overdone in everywhere. I just it's not for me, right? Like, it's like the same story, you know, what a million times? Is it a classic? Yes, but like, not not great. But this is just perfection for me. I wrote down ho Rachel sighting because she's got the makeup on. But just like the look that Santana gives Brittany, I got chills just that look of, you know, at the very end. And even when Unique starts singing, it just breaks my heart because it's just like, you know, they're just both of them would have been obviously amazing Rizzo's and then the Kate Hudson of it all is just like, she's something so yeah, I just I just really it just all really gels together.

For me, I just really enjoy it a lot. And I think that it's a very it's kind of an underrated song. You know, when you think of "Grease," you're thinking of the group numbers, right? You were talking about them highlighting, you know, everyone and I think more about like, you know, "Grease" to me is always you're the one that I want or "Summer Nights" or you know, it's always those big numbers. But this is really even in the musical, it's really a standout. So it's so good.

[1:03:47] Brea: It really is. It's perfection. So yeah, love, love, love. And you brought up Brittany. And I was like thinking about like, I just even like this episode as it relates to like an episode like "I Kissed a Girl" where she is like, she is quite literally a piece of furniture in that in that episode. Like she doesn't do anything. The fact that even though at the time watching season four live, it pissed me off how like they were like playing in my face with this relationship that means so much to me. The fact that I can look back now and be like, at least like Brittany is autonomous, word of the day, where it's like she's like making decisions. And like, I just like I think that that's, I don't know, that's great. Because like, just comparatively to season three, they even make a joke about it, you know, where she's like, and for a while I stopped talking. It's like, why did she stop talking?

[1:04:41] Emilee: Yeah, just because you make a joke about it happening doesn't mean that it's okay.

[1:04:47] Brea: They do that, like, it's gonna like make us forgive them or something. And it's like, okay, well, you pointed out a shitty thing that you did, but you still did it.

[1:04:55] Emilee: You still did it. And right. Can you not do it again? Yeah. Like, now that you've acknowledged it, like, does that mean that's not going to happen again?

[1:05:03] Brea: Right. Not to those guys. But this does have the cute moment in before this song with the cute potato moment where she's, you know, not dating anybody new, girl or boy.

[1:05:14] Emilee: I miss, oh, yeah, girl or boy. But also, I kind of think that Brittany's kind of fucked up for like, like, having that initiating that conversation for being like, oh, this song's really sad, right? Like, you're gonna be really, really sad. Just think about that stuff. Like, you know, we're broken up.

[1:05:30] Brea: Like, girl, she needs to do the role like she needs to do her job, right?

[1:05:35] Emilee: Right. And also the fact that like, Santana was literally doing her mascara, and then she just drops that I'm like, she's gonna cry before it even dries. That is so rude.

[1:05:45] Brea: Yeah, you know, I do feel like we were a little bit remiss of hearing Santana's "Look at me, I'm Sandra Dee" would be interested in seeing and seeing what she had in store for that.

[1:06:00] Emilee: 100% 100% I'd like to see the whole show, but...

[1:06:07] Brea: Oh, yeah. Why did they not do the entire production? Any final notes on "There Are Worse Things I Could Do"? Not for me.

[1:06:11] Emilee: We're ready to vote, I would assume. Yes. Who wants to I feel like it's obvious, but for the sake of voting, um, who wants to start us off?

[1:06:21] Brea: I will start with a vote for "Worst Things I Could Do."

[1:06:25] Emilee: Yes, Brie. It's got to be "Worst Things" for me.

[1:06:30] Brea: Yeah, I mean, you're the top. I mean, I was I was rallying for you. You did make it to round two, which I think was a testament, you know, to how much I love this. I do really enjoy that. It really is good. It's good. I have attempted listening to the mp3 of "You're the Top" and it does not do nearly the same thing as the mp4.

[1:06:54] Emilee: No, when it comes on the playlist, I'm like, I can't believe this is still in round two. But then when I see it, I'm like, yeah, it's cute. It's definitely like the cutest minute of television, right? Like, it's adorable. It's great. Um, all right, going into second competition. Both of those songs, both for musicals. I mean, we kind of manifest that not the musical that we maybe were aiming for. But that's okay. I won't say no to anything musical, you know me. But and you know what, just like that people are gonna say this is rigged. People are gonna say, Andrew, the you know, this? Yeah, no, indeed. Indeed. It is exactly from the episode that you think it's from?

[1:07:34] Brea: You know, no, do you know what it is?

[1:07:40] Emilee: It is. Obviously, it's from "Rocky Horror." Yes. Is it? What's left?

[1:07:51] Brea: Is it "Sweet Transvestite"?

[1:07:53] Emilee: It is.

[1:07:54] Brea: Oh, here we go.

[1:07:56] Emilee: And action.

[1:07:58] Brea: Oh, Brad, let's get out of here. I'm cold. I'm wet. And I'm just plain scared.

[1:08:04] Emilee: I'm here. There's nothing to worry about.

[1:08:06] Brea: I see you.

[1:08:21] Emilee: Because when you're not, he thought you were the candy man.

[1:08:30] Brea: By the way,

[1:08:31] Emilee: I don't judge a book by its cover.

[1:08:36] Brea: I'm not much of a girl by the light of day, but by night I'm one hell of a lover.

[1:08:44] Emilee: I'm just a sweet transvestite from sensational Transylvania.

[1:08:54] Brea: Oh, why don't you stay for the night or maybe a bite? I could show you my favorite obsession.

[1:09:07] Emilee: I've been making a man with blonde hair and a tan, and he's good for relieving my tension.

[1:09:15] Brea: I'm just a sweet transvestite from sensational Transylvania.

[1:09:32] Emilee: So come up to the lab and see what's on the slab.

[1:09:51] Brea: I see you shiver with anticipation.

[1:09:57] Emilee: But maybe the rain isn't really to blame. So I remove the cows.

[1:10:17] Brea: Okay, yeah. I feel like I forget how good that is. And then I'm just immediately brought right in. Just sensational. I mean, just incredible. It makes me laugh, because these are supposed to be high school students. I mean, let's be real. I just did a production with adults, you know, last year, and it was great. But, like, come on, you're supposed to believe these are high school kids. Like, let's be real. But no, I mean, just her vocals, it just works so perfect. It's just incredible. I got a little creeped out. Will did this, like, creepy laugh when they were doing this, like, kind of inappropriate move. It was near the beginning. It was when Brittany and Santana are dancing back up, and they're, like, hands over the crotch. And he's like, no, don't laugh at that. I am definitely not on the, you know, Will Schuster is a monster train at all, because I'm like, whatever. But like, oh, that was just like, you're not helping yourself there.

[1:11:21] Emilee: Oh yeah, it's not helping the case. But yeah, I think that the generally that that kind of thought is tired. Yeah. But just you could just see like, you can just tell in the cast members how much fun they're having, right? Like, you can tell when they're having an incredible time versus, you know, when they're just sitting in the choir room for 10 hours a day, doing the same shots, but like, it just it just, they really brought the life into the characters. It was just super fun. You know, obviously highly inappropriate for high school, but like, what a treat for us that we got to experience that.

[1:12:00] Brea: Yeah. And I think it's interesting that you like, that you bring up that they're having fun, because like, all the behind the scenes stuff that we know about this episode is like, kind of like, quite the opposite that it was like, they were it was like, very grueling hours, right? It was, the shots they were getting were very specific. And it was like, right. And so for them to seemingly be having fun, doubly impressive that they were able to like, show up.

[1:12:28] Emilee: Yeah. Obviously, these people are actors for a reason, right? Like, they really put it on. So you could really like, you could just, I don't know, you could just really like see the life that obviously, even if they were not having the best time that they were giving it their all, because that's what you do with the "Rocky Horror Show." It's interesting that they also did the audience participation for the anticipation part. And because I, when I did the production, it was the first time I had ever really been around like, an actual production that did that, that had like, all of like, the noisemakers and, you know, confetti and just like balloons and latex gloves and all these other crazy things that they did.

And, you know, I always wondered, like, were they gonna do that? Were they gonna like, do that in the audience, which it makes it even way it's so inappropriate. Like, it's shocking. So if you've ever been to a "Rocky Horror," like call out. I still have not. But like, I was thinking about it quite literally. It's dirty.

[1:13:34] Brea: This fall, I think will be the spooky season.

[1:13:37] Emilee: October, hell yeah.

[1:13:38] Brea: Yeah.

[1:13:39] Emilee: Yes, yes. But so funny that like, to imagine like, what would have actually been because even just doing it as, you know, 30 something, I was like, damn, that is some of those things that they say, whoo, they are something else. So but...

[1:13:54] Brea: But they even like, they changed some of the lyrics even in this song.

[1:13:58] Emilee: Yeah, they do. Yeah, a little bit. But just, you know, you can't go wrong with a Mercedes, you know?

[1:14:04] Brea: Yeah.

[1:14:04] Emilee: You can't go wrong with a Mer Solo. You just can't. And I think that this really is, this one in particular, I said that like, I feel like I forget this Mer Solo because it's not like your typical Mer Solo that you think of. But like, this one really just like shows off the range. And she's got it like this is like, and I think that from what I recall, it was intended to be like a John Stamos number that like that the Fox executives like push back on, on John Stamos being in that outfit and singing this song. And so like the middle ground was Amber Riley doing it, which was like such a gift.

[1:14:46] Andrew: Not need John Stamos singing this song. It's like that would have just like been like, okay, what do we, I don't want this. Yeah. So like, this was very inspired, very fun, a great use of this character that I feel like is not used well, a lot of the series. And so I think that this was, this is great. Brea, what are you thinking?

[1:15:07] Brea: Oh, I love it so much. Yeah, I like that you mentioned Will's creepy laugh, because this episode as a whole, as a whole, yeah, he is just like, hands down, because I'm again, like, you know, obviously, we know he could be a creep or whatever. But I, I'm too like, I'm also exhausted with the discussion about like, he's the worst person. Like, what do we do? Yeah. Where do we go from there? Yeah. Okay, we get it. He's weird, you know, but yeah, and it's also sorry to interrupt.

[1:15:37] Andrew: That's fine.

[1:15:37] Brea: But like, it's affecting this man's life. It's affecting Matthew Morrison's career. And it's like, okay, we need to, can we please? That's horrible. No, like, that's like, that is really crossing a line. Sorry.

[1:15:47] Andrew: No, no boundaries.

[1:15:48] Brea: Yeah. It's really not great with those boundaries. But yeah, this this episode as a whole, he is like, undeniably. Yeah, it's, it's pretty bad. But yeah, I love it so much. I mean, there's not a anyone who has issue with this, you know, like any sort of rocky who are, it's weird to say, like, you know, purists or whatever. But who else in that cast could have done this and killed it like this? You know what I mean? You had to go so different from fake frankenfurter to make this work. And I think she absolutely nailed it.

[1:16:26] Andrew: I love I know that, you know, the characters like switch up their roles throughout the throughout the show. But this is my favorite combo of things. I, you know, I love Heather Morris is Columbia. I love it. I love Naya as a magenta. I think that Kurt is as riffraff is one of the funniest things. And I die every time when like, you just start at one point, he's just like starling. He was perfect. I love it from start to finish. I love seeing Rachel when she collapsed in the elevator and goes cross-eyed. I think that, yeah, Finn was a fantastic Brad.

[1:17:05] Brea: Wait, I'm curious to ask then like, what is what is the one casting? Is there a singular casting faux pas of Rocky Horror Glee Show?

[1:17:16] Emilee: Um, not really. I think that in Time Warp when they, which is I understand why they did it, so I'm not necessarily complaining. I think that Heather Morris was nailing it so much as Columbia when they switch over to Tina. Yeah, I'm like, I kind of wish they just kept it there.

[1:17:37] Brea: Agree. Because she like, she looks so much like the actress from the film to Heather Morris. Like, it's so like, uncanny.

[1:17:45] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:17:46] Brea: It's not anything against Jenna, or her skill or her talent. It's just two totally different dynamics. That it was just like a little jarring to go between the two. So I totally agree.

[1:17:59] Andrew: Yeah, yeah. And I feel like I mean, like, we need to we haven't called it out. And I know that people are like, Why aren't you talking about this? Quinn as well? Hello, that was her and Kurt. Oh, my gosh, she is having the time of her life in Time Warp.

[1:18:08] Brea: Yeah. But yeah, okay. Continue your thoughts.

[1:18:16] Emilee: No complaints. I love the take that I mean, I love the way that she where she went with this song.

[1:18:23] Andrew: Yeah, no complaints. I love it so much. I mean, I can't believe I got blessed with another Rocky Horror song on this podcast. Unbelievable. Emily, you've been on this is your third episode. Have you had the Rocky Horror song yet?

[1:18:34] Emilee: Um, if it's Hot Patootie, I've got to scream.

[1:18:43] Andrew: No, that would be funny. But it's not called Hot Patootie in Glee. It's called in Glee. It's called Whatever Happened to Saturday Night. Don't even get me started.

[1:18:56] Emilee: Yeah, I don't know. It's weird. Wait, what do you think the choice was behind that?

[1:19:00] Andrew: I don't know. I don't know. There's got to be some rhyme or reason between because it's not just with Rocky Horror because they do it at over at the Frankenstein place.

[1:19:10] Emilee: Yeah, they do it there too.

[1:19:11] Andrew: Wait, what is this? What is the change on that one?

[1:19:17] Emilee: I can't remember which one it is that the original is called. Now I've seen so much of the Rocky Horror Glee. I think they might call it it's a light and the actual one is called over at the Frankenstein place.

[1:19:26] Andrew: I feel like I feel like the Glee version. You're looking it up right now. But I think that it's like there. There's a reverse. There's a light in parentheses. And then it's over at the Frankenstein place is right where maybe the original was just let's look.

[1:19:40] Emilee: Yeah, the original is called just over at the Frankenstein place.

[1:19:44] Andrew: And then they throw in there's a light. I mean, but they do that with random Glee songs throughout the show. And it makes me think there must be some sort of weird licensing something like if they have to change it a little bit just to be like, oh, make it so if somebody's trying to like, look up.

[1:19:59] Emilee: Yeah, this song Jenna talked about that.

[1:20:06] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:20:06] Emilee: Yeah. Then maybe like, it will kind of mislead them a little bit. I really don't know. There's absolutely no reason not to call it the unless I mean, I don't know throughout the entirety of Rocky, the whole Rocky Horror Glee show thing. They made such bizarre choices with the way that they change lyrics. Like they changed less offensive lyrics and kept more offensive lyrics. And that's just like Fox lawyers being like playing by like these crazy rules that are just like, put in place where it's like this word, but not this word.

[1:20:43] Andrew: Yeah, that it's like, it's so strange. Like, it wouldn't surprise me if they wanted to be like, let's go ahead and take out the patootie up at all. Right? You know, like, right.

[1:20:51] Emilee: Yeah. Like, they're like, that's too much butt talk. Meanwhile, the like one or two episodes prior, they literally have chicks talking about scissoring. You know, blatantly.

[1:21:01] Brea: Yeah, yeah. I'm just it doesn't never made any sense to me. So I really don't know. But anyway, um, what else do we have to say about Sweet Transvestite?

[1:21:08] Andrew: It's good stuff. It's really great.

[1:21:14] Brea: And also like, I think that it's like, um, interesting that we got there are worse things I could do. And Sweet Transvestite, two characters that like, you wouldn't immediately like link with because I think that so much of the focus of like, these show tunes are given to, like, primarily Rachel and then Kurt, that it's like these two characters that are like, it's, you're not necessarily thinking of them being associated with that genre that it's like, Oh, no, you can really show up for this and like, understand the assignment. And yeah, like cannot be put into a box. And yeah, no, I think it's, it's a great showcase of both of their talents, both of those songs.

[1:21:57] Emilee: I love. Agreed, agreed, agreed. Um, and then also just the only note that we did not get to was Troubletone's soft launch. I do think that's fun that like, we get a little like, okay, this is coming up the pike.

[1:22:11] Brea: Yeah, yeah, this, this, this, these three characters are fun together.

[1:22:18] Andrew: Um, okay, Sweet Transvestite, I really do. I wish the best for Sweet Transvestite.

[1:22:25] Brea: Me too.

[1:22:25] Andrew: Oh, I'm kind of nervous now. I kind of forgot. Oh, shoot. We gotta put it against something. Damn it. Okay, this is interesting. I'm not gonna say anything. I'm not gonna say anything.

[1:22:37] Brea: Oh, you see, right? I'm just like, falling victim, trying to fill the air.

[1:22:41] Andrew: We gotta fill the silence, though. We gotta fill the silence.

[1:22:47] Brea: No, no, it's alright. I never, I never care. No, it's not my podcast.

[1:22:47] Emilee: Um, okay, I'd be impressed if you can get it from this.

[1:22:57] Andrew: Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. That shirt looks familiar. I see a unique in the background. Okay, so audio medium, we're looking at Artie. He's looking over smiling uniques in the background. Mr. Schuster is looking over at Artie smiling. Is that a song for a song for Artie?

[1:23:13] Brea: Okay. It's not necessarily. I mean, I don't know.

[1:23:18] Emilee: Oh, no, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I see. Is that? Is that a Santana dress in the top right?

[1:23:25] Brea: No, Santana is not in the room.

[1:23:25] Emilee: Okay. Well, then I don't know. It's that yellow bracelet that unique is wearing is throwing me off like I'm gonna know what it is. And I'm gonna be mad at myself.

[1:23:36] Andrew: And it just a stab in the dark to be want to throw something out there.

[1:23:45] Brea: Okay, season four.

[1:23:45] Emilee: I got nothing, man.

[1:23:46] Andrew: That's okay. It's not where it is. Hold on.

[1:24:06] Andrew: Oh, also on my list. I really do like this one.

[1:24:13] ♪ Musical number: "Hold On" — performed by Jenna Ushkowitz ♪

[1:26:13] Andrew: I forgot how much is packed into that single performance.

[1:26:19] Emilee: Um, okay. This song, who wants to start discourse? I'll start. Okay.

[1:26:26] Brea: Uh, I love this song. I love it so much. Um, Jenna sounds fantastic.

[1:26:33] Emilee: Yeah. You know, it's really good.

[1:26:33] Brea: So good. Santana hanging out with that homeless person takes me out absolutely every time because she's just chilling and then he gets into the song and I love it. I love it so much.

[1:26:45] Emilee: Oh, and this isn't this isn't Santana's biggest faux pas of the series. But this the lyric that she targets at this seemingly homeless person, where it's like you got yourself into your own mess. I'm like, whoa.

[1:27:06] Brea: I forgive it. I forgive it. Because when she's first singing that she's like looking off like longingly like she seems like she's blaming herself or whatever.

[1:27:16] Emilee: Yeah. So it doesn't seem like she's targeting it at him.

[1:27:22] Brea: Okay. Okay, then that softens the blow for me that that always stood out to me is like, what are you doing here?

[1:27:27] Emilee: No, it really seems like she's like looking all like, you know, she's contemplating some mistakes of her own or whatever. And then he ends up like they're chilling by the end of it. So I don't think he's offended or whatever.

[1:27:36] Brea: But I also think at a larger scale, like at this point, in this storyline, which I'm curious to hear your thoughts on like this Pesbary drama in season five, that like Santana definitely doesn't feel any remorse for like, any anything that she's done.

[1:27:49] Emilee: Specifically at this point, like she doesn't I don't even think that she like a pot like I mean, I am conflicted where I really stand on, you know, the parameters of what was done.

[1:28:09] Brea: But like, does she ever even like apologize and Rachel for?

[1:28:14] Emilee: Look, I have a lot of thoughts about that whole storyline. So which wait, hold on, which episode does this song fall in?

[1:28:20] Brea: This is the end of trio. So this is the episode after frenemies Santana drop.

[1:28:26] Emilee: Okay, right. So I disagree that she doesn't show remorse. I think that she wasn't necessarily written to show remorse.

[1:28:36] Brea: Yeah, I think Nia is like, awesome, you know, acting and little subtleties there. Like she definitely like snuck things in.

[1:28:41] Emilee: I think that the look on her face when Rachel's tearing up that picture and stuff.

[1:28:46] Brea: Yeah, definitely. She looks like remorseful and like genuinely sad about it. I think that like her pride keeps her from like, you know, showing full remorse and stuff. But I definitely I don't, I don't think she was I know that I might be biased, but I genuinely don't think that she was wrong in that feud at all. I don't think that she was coming at it from a bad place.

[1:29:14] Emilee: And then Rachel hurt her and then she lashed out.

[1:29:20] Brea: Yeah. And then just got worse from there. Did she ever properly apologize? No. I mean, and I just want to do some damage control to that. It's like, I'm not saying that, like, I think that I mean, you just pointed out like a something that Rachel did where again, these are not even real people. Um, but, but like the fact that Rachel ripped up the picture, and she was also pretty unhinged. And

[1:30:14] Brea: There's no way that this chick is lazy. She did Glee Club. She was on the Cheerios.

[1:31:14] Emilee: Right.

[1:31:19] Brea: She managed to, we could assume maintain a good, you know, GPA. She got to college, got a scholarship.

[1:31:24] Emilee: Well, I think that that's like that speaks obviously more to the Glee writers, and you know, these characters that they claim are lazy drives me up a wall.

[1:31:35] Brea: Yeah, absolutely ridiculous.

[1:31:37] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:31:37] Brea: She also was supposedly working like six different jobs at the time, then this was happening.

[1:31:42] Emilee: Yeah, in a band!

[1:31:43] Brea: Taking night classes, assumingly.

[1:31:46] Emilee: I never wanted to anyway, I just wanted to sort of take this from you when that is like not at all how the storyline was presented or why she tried out for that musical.

[1:31:54] Brea: Yeah, and then they decided to just tie it up to be like, I don't know, I was just doing it for some reason, and I'm too lazy to do it anyway.

[1:32:01] Emilee: You can have it.

[1:32:03] Brea: Yeah, I hated that.

[1:32:05] Emilee: It was such a terrible and like shortened resolution.

[1:32:08] Brea: They really messed up the ending, but the feud was fun while it was actually, you know, a little bit more well done, I would say.

[1:32:15] Emilee: Yeah, I do think that I mean, like, to add a layer to it, I don't even know if y'all want to even get into this, but like the—

[1:32:19] Brea: We always want to get into this.

[1:32:23] Emilee: We are going to get into it.

[1:32:25] Emilee: The layer that I feel is evident that it's like they're, they're, they created this plot to that is a direct reflection as many plots on this show were that was like, I'm thinking like, specifically, like the Tina Hag storyline that it's like, taken directly from Jenna.

[1:32:39] Brea: So it's like, I, it's safe to assume that it's like, hey, we're kind of like playing into the potential animosity between these two actresses and they're, we're bringing it to the scripted show.

[1:32:56] Emilee: Oh, for sure.

[1:32:57] Brea: Yeah, I think so.

[1:32:58] Emilee: Yeah, that it's like, oh, now it's like more interesting to, to play it because it's like coming from a more real place.

[1:33:07] Brea: So, yeah, yeah, um, which I, you know, is kind of fucked up, pretty fucked up, I would say.

[1:33:15] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:33:17] Brea: Oh, yeah, totally.

[1:33:18] Emilee: But I mean, it made for good TV, you know, and that Rachel slap when she smacks her.

[1:33:23] Brea: Oh, my God.

[1:33:24] Emilee: I was like, oh, she was waiting for that one.

[1:33:28] Brea: Yeah.

[1:33:28] Emilee: Oh, yeah, that was good TV.

[1:33:30] Brea: But also, I mean, like, even like, yeah, this, this, like, like, breathes new life into season five.

[1:33:35] Emilee: I feel like it, and especially like the songs that come out of this plotline.

[1:33:41] Brea: Oh, my God.

[1:33:42] Emilee: Yes.

[1:33:43] Brea: Some of the best of the series.

[1:33:45] Emilee: Every Breath You Take was...

[1:33:47] Brea: Every Breath You Take is an incredible song.

[1:33:50] Emilee: And We've Got Tonight was the one that killed it, right?

[1:33:53] Brea: We've Got Tonight killed it.

[1:33:54] Emilee: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:33:55] Brea: And like, that's what I was gonna say, like, I miss that girl so freaking bad.

[1:33:58] Emilee: I agree.

[1:33:59] Brea: I think that was one that I was like, really on the fence about.

[1:34:03] Emilee: I think that I would have gone the other way.

[1:34:05] Brea: But I do.

[1:34:07] Emilee: They're both such crazy good moments, right?

[1:34:10] Brea: Like, yeah.

[1:34:11] Emilee: That was a hard one.

[1:34:13] Brea: That was a hard competition.

[1:34:14] Emilee: So I don't know.

[1:34:16] Brea: Pesare drama.

[1:34:18] Emilee: Too long?

[1:34:19] Brea: I'm here for it.

[1:34:19] Emilee: It's crazy.

[1:34:22] Brea: But we like it.

[1:34:23] Emilee: I love it.

[1:34:24] Brea: We don't like the ending.

[1:34:25] Emilee: The ending is leaving a lot to be desired.

[1:34:29] Brea: The fact that you couldn't even remember it.

[1:34:31] Emilee: That goes to show something.

[1:34:32] Brea: Oh, yeah.

[1:34:33] Emilee: That's the problem.

[1:34:33] Brea: You know?

[1:34:34] Emilee: It's like, you know, how many storylines in Glee actually go for that many episodes?

[1:34:39] Brea: Not that many, you know?

[1:34:41] Emilee: And they actually like, it was like, okay, cool build up.

[1:34:45] Brea: And then they're just like, meh, you know?

[1:34:47] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:34:47] Brea: Be okay.

[1:34:48] Emilee: Literally, just be okay.

[1:34:50] Brea: Right.

[1:34:51] Emilee: Like, I don't...

[1:34:51] Brea: Don't be okay.

[1:34:52] Emilee: And the ROM be okay.

[1:34:54] Brea: The ROM be okay.

[1:34:56] Emilee: I want the other one.

[1:34:57] Brea: Yeah.

[1:34:57] Emilee: I want the other one too.

[1:34:59] Brea: And not that it's not a good song.

[1:35:00] Emilee: It is.

[1:35:00] Brea: I didn't know it before Glee.

[1:35:02] Emilee: And it's cute.

[1:35:03] Brea: But like, not the right one.

[1:35:05] Emilee: No.

[1:35:06] Brea: Ingrid, Ingrid, what is it?

[1:35:08] Emilee: Michelson?

[1:35:08] Brea: Michelson.

[1:35:09] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:35:10] Brea: Okay.

[1:35:10] Emilee: That would have been so cute.

[1:35:13] Brea: So cute.

[1:35:13] Emilee: But Emily, what are you thinking?

[1:35:16] Emilee: With, wait, hold on. I forgot like even what song we were talking about.

[1:35:20] Brea: Yeah.

[1:35:21] Emilee: So I'm here to burst the positivity bubble because I don't like Hold On.

[1:35:26] Brea: Okay.

[1:35:27] Emilee: I like Wilson Phillips, right? I like the song.

[1:35:29] Brea: First of all, I just, I really dislike the back and forth.

[1:35:35] Emilee: The New York, the...

[1:35:36] Brea: You don't like these songs?

[1:35:38] Emilee: I don't like the ones that like, you know, like roar, how it goes back and forth. Like, I just, I don't, I don't care for it.

[1:35:45] Brea: I think it should have been the four, right? Just the four seniors singing the song.

[1:35:51] Emilee: I think vocally they would have, I mean, don't get me wrong. The overall song, the vocals are incredible, right? You've got Adam Lambert. You've got Demi Lovato. You've got all these harmonies. You've got so much going on and it's beautiful, but it gets so convoluted that it's like there are just, there's too much good stuff going on, right? Like, it just sounds like it's like, I don't know what I need to listen to. So I think between the four of them, they would have done some really cool things with it.

[1:36:17] Brea: I am not the biggest fan of the music from four and five.

[1:36:23] Emilee: Now there are some bangers, right? Like, there's some really good stuff, like you just said, Every Breath You Take, you know, even just talking about the Katy Perry episode, like Love Wide Awake, Love, you know, so good. But like the Barry Manilow of it all, the Footloose, the 80s songs, I feel like even Hold On falls into this category of this tired music that they're like, we're out of things. We did so many of good classic songs in the first three seasons.

[1:36:49] Brea: That's so interesting.

[1:36:50] Emilee: That we're running out of them.

[1:36:52] Brea: Okay, because you brought up four and five, but I did notice that you specifically left out six, which I do feel is like kind of like the laziest when it comes to like song selection.

[1:37:04] Emilee: Yeah, I think six, the thing is about six is, maybe it's because it's a shorter season that I forget about it. And it's all of the feels for me because you know, it's the last season. And they have that banger episode of Jagged Little Tapestry. I mean, it makes up for so much of it for me.

[1:37:21] Brea: Yeah, but it's like Jagged Little Tapestry is like the mashups like last hurrah. And then we never see another mashup. Like I'm thinking like, hey, songs that we're doing something fun and interesting with, like they literally stop in the third episode, sorry, of season six.

[1:37:38] Emilee: No, it's true.

[1:37:39] Brea: Yeah, never again.

[1:37:41] Emilee: Yeah, I do. I do.

[1:37:42] Brea: Right. Like I guess season six does fall in there because they literally have an entire episode about Burt Bacharach, which rest in peace, Burt Bacharach, you put out some good music. But like, do we really need a whole episode when there's only 13?

[1:37:53] Emilee: The answer is no.

[1:37:54] Brea: Sure.

[1:37:55] Emilee: The answer is no. I mean, Wishing Hopin' and Elfie, we do like that. But like, I think for the most part, yeah.

[1:37:59] Brea: Oh, god, I do love Elfie.

[1:38:01] Emilee: But yeah, yeah, but that's okay.

[1:38:05] Brea: You know, it's just for me, Hold On is just not, I'm not feeling it.

[1:38:10] Emilee: I think I would have liked it better if it would have just stayed in the lima of it all.

[1:38:15] Brea: Because I love the big billowy breeze, just like how it is in the music video. And it's got that very, you know, mom jeans of the 90s feel to it.

[1:38:25] Emilee: Right, right.

[1:38:28] Brea: I think that you put it into words exactly. Because I really do like this. I love this, like the original song so much. I really do enjoy every time that I hear it. I feel like you hear it at like a CVS.

[1:38:41] Emilee: Right, right.

[1:38:42] Brea: But I feel like with the Glee version, there are so many like great vocalists on this. Like, I'm thinking like Demi Lovato. Like, I love like the Naya vocals, like the Leah vocals are all great. Like Jenna, you mentioned. But I think that there's so many people, like numerically. Like, it's just like, it's so up there that it's like, you don't actually, like Demi Lovato, I think only has like, in the mp4 at least, it's like one line. It's like, oh, Demi Lovato went into the studio for this.

[1:39:12] Emilee: Comical.

[1:39:13] Brea: Right.

[1:39:13] Emilee: Comical.

[1:39:14] Brea: Yeah.

[1:39:14] Emilee: Right, right.

[1:39:15] Brea: That's what it is. And, you know, now knowing what we know about the struggles that Demi Lovato has had in her life.

[1:39:20] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:39:21] Brea: You don't, you know, chronologically, where was she during her time and her, you know, journey? No idea. She never really talks about Glee very much. So it thinks that it's not, it wasn't a positive time in her life. She's talked about Naya and her relationship there and stuff. But it seems to me that like, maybe they wanted to, you know, obviously use her since they were paying for her and put her in. But could she have handled more at that time? I don't know.

[1:39:49] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:39:50] Brea: But it just seems very convoluted.

[1:39:52] Emilee: She has said, Demi Lovato has said that at the time that she was on Glee, she admits that she was like, I actually wasn't fully ready to return to television at that time.

[1:40:02] Brea: Oh, yeah.

[1:40:03] Emilee: Right. You can tell. I mean, you can tell.

[1:40:06] Brea: And so she does like specifically, I hope I'm saying that right. I know she's like gone back and forth with pronouns and stuff.

[1:40:13] Emilee: No, you're good.

[1:40:14] Brea: You're good.

[1:40:15] Emilee: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:40:15] Brea: I think she's back like she now.

[1:40:17] Emilee: Yes, yes.

[1:40:19] Brea: Okay, cool. But did say specifically that she was like, I wasn't quite ready. And I agree. I agreed to it. And so, you know, it was a short arc. So it makes me almost think that she might have even actually wanted her role cut down a smidge.

[1:40:36] Emilee: Right.

[1:40:36] Brea: Even if she was, you know, because we always like to talk about how underutilized she is, which I would not put it past Glee to underutilize her that much. But I wonder if it wasn't a bit on her request as well.

[1:40:46] Emilee: Right.

[1:40:46] Brea: More her or the network.

[1:40:48] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:40:48] Brea: Exactly.

[1:40:49] Emilee: But Emily, I'm totally with you on the, I don't, I'm not crazy about that season four and five, like split thing that they did.

[1:40:55] Brea: Yeah.

[1:40:58] Emilee: I really kind of don't like that.

[1:41:00] Brea: I almost always never hits for me.

[1:41:02] Emilee: But I'm the opposite with you on this one, which is that I would have rather seen.

[1:41:06] Brea: I wanted to see more, Danny.

[1:41:08] Emilee: Oh, in New York.

[1:41:09] Brea: Yeah.

[1:41:10] Emilee: You like the New York side better.

[1:41:11] Brea: Exactly.

[1:41:12] Emilee: Like I would have gone that way.

[1:41:13] Brea: But that but I'm totally with you. And it's one of the reasons by like, you know, like Mama Mia, never as much as I love. I don't like there never hits for me the way that it hits for other people. Because it was something about that split thing. It just always came across as so corny and.

[1:41:30] Emilee: I just never I just couldn't ever get there.

[1:41:33] Brea: The only time that works for me is what does the Fox say? Because it seems so ridiculous.

[1:41:37] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:41:39] Brea: That they would literally send puppets in the mail that of course, they're going to time this huge big thing together.

[1:41:46] Emilee: Like, oh, my God.

[1:41:48] Brea: Absolutely have not watched that since it first aired.

[1:41:53] Emilee: I've heard it.

[1:41:54] Brea: Come on.

[1:41:56] Emilee: There's a handful of episodes that I've not watched since it first aired. And that is one of them.

[1:42:01] Brea: Having Kevin wheeling past the camera looking at dead in the eyes. Like, this is my limit.

[1:42:06] Emilee: It's iconic.

[1:42:10] Brea: I have seen clips from it just from things that pop up here and there. But like, I've not thought through that whole thing since it first aired.

[1:42:16] Emilee: Um, wait, segue, segue, segue. You bringing up Kevin looking directly into the camera. I it always kind of takes me out on this performance. Leah looking into the camera. Do you know what I'm talking about? Like when she's sitting in like the Niata like dance room and she's just like she is. It's like she's in a music video.

[1:42:36] Brea: She's acting so fucking dramatic.

[1:42:38] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:42:41] Brea: So dramatic.

[1:42:42] Emilee: And that's not surprising.

[1:42:43] Brea: I know exactly what you what you're talking about. I believe it was this her own choice. It was this direction. I don't know. It's taking me out.

[1:42:54] Emilee: Um, but, uh, the last note that I have here is the laugh, which I I feel like the the popular theory when it's so at the beginning of this performance, the underclassmen and Mr. Schuster like laugh in response to them performing this song. The popular theory I feel, I guess, is that this is a song from bridesmaids, but like it's not like effectively communicated that this is they can't be like we're laughing because this is from bridesmaids.

[1:43:26] Brea: But like, right, I don't I, I don't understand it. Do you have any thoughts on this?

[1:43:34] Emilee: No, it's just weird.

[1:43:35] Brea: Yeah.

[1:43:36] Emilee: It's a lot of laugh content this episode.

[1:43:38] Brea: Oh, yeah.

[1:43:39] Emilee: Right.

[1:43:42] Brea: Is this needed? Because I remember like watching this episode with my mom and my mom being like, why are they laughing? Like, what is it? I don't get it.

[1:43:50] Emilee: Right.

[1:43:51] Brea: It's like an inside joke that no one can say.

[1:43:54] Emilee: Probably copyright, copyright, copyright.

[1:43:56] Brea: But like, you know, it's just, yeah, it's just very, it feels like a joke that I'm not in on. And I just I want to know the joke.

[1:44:04] Emilee: I want to know the joke, guys.

[1:44:06] Brea: Hey, Siri, let me in.

[1:44:08] Emilee: Let me in.

[1:44:09] Brea: Let me in.

[1:44:10] Emilee: I want to play.

[1:44:10] Brea: I want to play.

[1:44:11] Emilee: Too much to ask.

[1:44:12] Brea: There's so many glee moments like that where it's like, we will never know what the hell they were going for there. That's why I love Jenna and Kevin's podcast, because you're finding out so many of these little bits of information that it's just like, it's too good.

[1:44:26] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:44:27] Brea: OK, any final notes on hold on?

[1:44:31] Emilee: The only final note I had was Sam's ponytail. Man, what an unfortunate time that was for Sam.

[1:44:38] Brea: That era is almost over, though. Like, he cuts it.

[1:44:41] Emilee: And it was only like his ponytail, but like the one piece of hair that like they clearly hair sprayed here so it wouldn't move, you know, it was just he's what a good looking guy. And then they do him dirty with that.

[1:44:53] Brea: Oh, no, but he looks he looks really great when he goes to New York, though, when he gets that hair. It's a good look. Finally, again, it is a good look.

[1:45:00] Emilee: Is that the short? Is that? Okay, the brown hair season six, not shorter.

[1:45:06] Brea: Yeah, no me either. But I like it. It's the New York season five is when it's like the cute, like shortcut, correct?

[1:45:14] Emilee: Sure. I feel like it's like almost similar to like beginning of season four. Sam hair.

[1:45:20] Brea: I don't even like this is where we're at in the discourse.

[1:45:24] Emilee: The timeline of Sam Evans.

[1:45:30] Brea: Yeah, okay. All right. Yeah. You're probably right. That sounds like the best one.

[1:45:31] Emilee: Yeah. So that's that's not doing a lot. The the Sam ponytail noted. Okay. In terms of voting. Again, I feel like this is another setup. I'll start off. Sweet Transvestite. I am so happy that this is the competition at hand, even though like hold on is a song that by all means necessary. It's good, but it does not need to go to round three. Sweet Transvestite. I am very happy this is competition at hand. But who wants to vote next?

[1:46:06] Brea: You can go, Bria. Sorry, I just did it too, because I looked at your name. I'm so sorry.

[1:46:11] Emilee: I know, right? It's fine. Blame my mom. Blame my mom. Okay, everyone blame my mom.

[1:46:17] Brea: You know what? This is actually surprisingly hard for me. I really I really do. I know. I just I realized that I said that like, I'm like happy that it's going through even before like, everybody voted.

[1:46:24] Emilee: No, no, I mean, it's okay. Obviously, being the Rocky Horror fan that I am and how much I, you know, spoke on that song. Obviously, I'm going sweet transvestite. But I really do love hold on. So I'm sad to see her go.

[1:46:38] Brea: Yeah, I'm sad for you. Because I'm also voting for sweet transvestite. But that sounded really bitchy. I really am sad for you, though.

[1:46:48] Emilee: Emily's getting scary. Emily gets scarier as time goes on. Okay.

[1:46:52] Brea: So catty. I want like a big I feel like we've been it's like, was it the past, like two episodes where like, the last competition of the episode were the spookiest scariest.

[1:47:06] Emilee: So scary. So let's see if the theme continues.

[1:47:15] Brea: Oh, what was that? I can't even know what that means.

[1:47:19] Emilee: I can't say anything. Because I really want this song to speak for itself.

[1:47:28] Brea: Oh, Christ.

[1:47:35] Emilee: Oh my god. Wait, do you know what this is?

[1:47:38] Brea: This can't be I kissed a girl.

[1:47:41] Emilee: It's not I kissed a girl.

[1:47:47] Brea: Oh, wait. I mean, it's not because it's from I kissed a girl. But it's not the song I kissed a girl.

[1:47:51] Emilee: Oh, no, I was guessing the episode I kissed a girl. Yes, yes, yes. You're correct.

[1:47:56] Brea: Oh, gosh, I'm trying to think of what's left in this.

[1:47:59] Emilee: Girls just want to have fun.

[1:48:00] Brea: It's not girls just want to have fun.

[1:48:18] Emilee: It is perfect. I'm surprised that it's still here.

[1:48:26] ♪ Musical number: "Perfect" — performed by the Glee Cast ♪

[1:49:51] Brea: I hate that.

[1:49:54] Emilee: I thought that I really like, I feel I haven't seen that in a very long time. But I didn't hate it. I thought that I hated it. But it was kind of okay to me.

[1:50:05] Brea: Um, who wants to start us on this one?

[1:50:08] Emilee: I'll start on this one. I also didn't hate it. I don't think I would put it in the category that I liked it. It's very mid to me. It's kind of just like, you know, I do like things, guys. I swear I do.

[1:50:18] Brea: I love your like, opinion.

[1:50:27] Emilee: For me, Rachel, just goonin just smiling like a silly, silly goon. She was just like, so happy from the instant they open their mouths. And then eventually everyone else got into it, which makes me laugh because during as soon as Blaine starts rapping, the look on Santana's face is incredible. Just the drop like,

[1:50:50] Brea: We're doing this.

[1:50:53] Emilee: Yeah, this is what this is. Because at first it's just like, okay, she's listening. She's absorbing, people are like kind of getting into it. And then as soon as that starts, she's like, Oh, you're not here for me. You're here for you. Got it. Got it. Got it.

[1:51:09] Brea: So, you know, song wise, it's good. They always sound great together. You know, I'm kind of with Santana, though, where I'm just kind of like, you know, good singers, but it's all right.

[1:51:22] Emilee: I'm gonna push back a little bit. Okay, so you're from Okay, you're saying that Blaine is like, it's like this is a self serving song for him.

[1:51:36] Brea: Yeah, I think so. I think that he's listening to the words and being like, okay, you know, if you ever feel like he's trying to get the message out, but I feel like he's not really saying it to Santana. He's just kind of, you know, saying it to the group as a whole, because everyone seems to be a lot more excited than she is.

[1:51:56] Emilee: Like, we're all here for each other. This is what we do. And she just I think that it's just very surface level for her.

[1:52:02] Brea: Um, that is actually why, in this episode, I enjoy the very Finn's version of girls just want to have fun. I really think that like, I know that people like to make fun of it. And they're like, Oh, what is that? You know, it's it doesn't really hit Santana to the core. But like, that's where I can like, I don't know, I can just see the difference that it makes in her versus this, which feels very surface level to me.

[1:52:30] Emilee: So yeah, that's just okay. So what my pushback is coming from, like, I think, okay, this is quite literally coming from Recovering Gleek's recent episode.

[1:52:38] Brea: Yeah, I'm talking about all the characters that that came out over the course of the series. And, and how there was definitely like, a room, like, specifically, you know, no one really cares for this episode, I'd be very surprised to hear from I would love to hear from someone that likes this episode.

[1:53:01] Emilee: But like the Santana coming out storyline, was generally just like handled very poorly.

[1:53:06] Brea: And I think one of the things that Ian and Lena were talking about was that there was definitely room for Blaine and Kurt to be like, a little bit more. I don't know, just like, part of this and like, to, to meet in the middle and you know, provide guidance or just like, have any sort of discourse or discussion about what's actually going on here.

[1:53:27] Emilee: And it kind of like, the it's like saying the quiet part of love that it's like, the Finn solving and saving the day with girls just want to have fun and just like, what is this even doing?

[1:53:38] Brea: Right, right. That like, there could have been room for Clayton to have like a productive conversation about like, what's actually happening here? You know, definitely.

[1:53:50] Emilee: Yeah, I agree. Because it's just like, you know, friends can be as supportive as they want to be, you can have a such a great support group. But until you've gone through something like that, yeah, it's something that like people just they can't understand it.

[1:54:03] Brea: And that's how it is for a lot of different things. But like, I could never understand coming out as someone who is, you know, not not gay, or anything like that right now. I could never imagine doing, you know, doing something or talking to someone about something like this. And them being like, yeah, I totally get it, even though they don't write that they would have some sort of, you know, kind of like a deleted scene or something that just said, you know, like, you know, they get it to a point, but here is why I get it.

[1:54:41] Emilee: Maybe a song there, like in a closed setting would have been more appropriate for them there as a character. But like, what I'm leaning toward now is like, okay, so perfect to me is like, okay.

[1:55:00] Brea: Yeah, what like, this would have been a much better use of time, if it was just a conversation with Kurt Blaine and Santana, that it's like, you need this song that like, correct me if I'm wrong. And I feel pretty confident in saying we do not get a conversation with these three characters about this situation.

[1:55:17] Emilee: And I think one of the things that Ian and Lena were bringing up was that like, Blaine is a character that has gone through trauma. And like we, one of the main complaints about his characterization is that we, we get close to the surface with like unpacking things. And but we never actually do it, which is why like the the Sue line at the very end of the series of being like, Kurt, you accomplish all these things goes on this list. I don't really get you and Blaine, I don't really get you that it's like, Oh, my God, you're acknowledging that you really didn't do all that much with this, this characterization.

[1:55:50] Brea: So I would have, right, again, would have just like, like the the usage of this time that they had cut out for this performance to be a little bit more productive, instead of just being like, hey, here's an attempt to be immediately shot down by Santana.

[1:56:08] Emilee: Right? And it felt like if anyone was going to do the first song out of this, like songs for Santana thing, yeah.

[1:56:13] Brea: And saying this song, if you would have sang this song, and if it would have been, you know, a Finn, let's say Finn wasn't going to be the focus of this or whatever, if it would have been a Finn and Rachel song, or if it would have been, you know, someone else doing this, I feel like it would have made more sense for her to be like, you don't understand what I'm going through.

[1:56:30] Emilee: But for it to be the two other LGBT characters, like, it's just like, I don't understand. And that's why it feels so surface level to me.

[1:56:45] Brea: Is it beautiful? Of course it is. Everything they sing together is wonderful. But like...

[1:56:53] Emilee: Candles.

[1:56:54] Brea: Oh, candles.

[1:56:57] Emilee: On that note.

[1:56:57] Brea: Candles could be worse. It's not the worst.

[1:57:01] Emilee: Um, Brie, you've been you've been quiet on this. What are your thoughts on this performance, this storyline, all of the things?

[1:57:09] Brea: I mean, I spoke earlier on, I pretty much like spoiled. I literally said that any song from this episode is tainted, because I hate it so bad.

[1:57:19] Emilee: Man, this is an episode for you. This is a recording for you today, Brie.

[1:57:23] Brea: My goodness. Oh, yeah. I kissed a girl by manifesting this way.

[1:57:31] Brea: Well, first off, as far as girls just want to have fun, I just want to say, I actually like the version of that song. And I like the way that Finn sings it. It's the context that ruins it for me.

[1:57:42] Emilee: I agree.

[1:57:43] Brea: Yeah, I do think it's actually really pretty the way he sings it. It's just what goes down within it. As far as songs from I kissed a girl, this one is perhaps the least offensive one to me, because at least it is coming from gay characters. And at least the lyrics are they've got a good message. They're trying.

[1:58:00] Emilee: But for me, it's it's just how crazy like tone deaf it is and that all of them are that everybody in that room as they're bopping around like, hey, let's celebrate you Santa. Everybody's ignoring the elephant in the room, which is that she did not want to be outed.

[1:58:20] Brea: Yeah.

[1:58:26] Emilee: And she explicitly stated I do not want this. Please do not do this. Like you're jeopardizing my safety and life.

[1:58:31] Brea: Yeah, like like you're forcing me out of the closet that I do not want this and then everyone continues to do it and makes her uncomfortable. So for that, it's just like.

[1:58:43] Emilee: It almost pisses me off more than it was Curt and Blaine doing this, because as gay people, they should understand why they should not be doing this. Even though I think, yeah, the intentions are good. It's just it's they're still literally like forcing her to sit through something which she is not ready for and is uncomfortable with.

[1:59:00] Brea: Yeah. So. I mean, it's cute. I really love pink. I think this song has a great message. I don't think. Again, I don't think they had bad intentions. I don't know why they often choose Blaine for rapping.

[1:59:20] Emilee: Mm hmm. Yeah. Right. That's always been an interesting choice for me. I've always been like, huh, OK, I guess they really like your shoes. They had such limited options, you know. But yeah, you know, I'm not trying to get down on it too bad again. Like it's it's.

[1:59:39] Brea: Without the context, it's actually a pretty cute little, like, Clayne duet, you know?

[1:59:43] Emilee: Yeah.

[1:59:45] Brea: But I just can't...

[1:59:45] Emilee: Sounds great.

[1:59:47] Brea: It's kind of like how I feel about there are certain songs in Grilled Cheese's, you know, that whole storyline where I just, no matter how good the song was, I got getting uncomfortable with the fact that Kurt had explicitly stated, I'm not religious, and I don't want this. And then people kept...

[2:00:03] Emilee: Right.

[2:00:03] Brea: ...doing it. And I'm like, no matter what your intentions are, like, if somebody blatantly tells you, I do not like this, please don't, and then you keep doing it.

[2:00:11] Emilee: That's a great comparison. Yeah.

[2:00:13] Brea: 100%. Like, it just makes me kind of, eh, you know?

[2:00:19] Emilee: Gives me the ick.

[2:00:20] Brea: Gives me the ick. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. So I guess generally, the song is fine. You know, I don't think about it that often, but we're kind of blinded by what the context of all this is.

[2:00:37] Emilee: Yes.

[2:00:38] Brea: Yes.

[2:00:39] Emilee: Yeah.

[2:00:40] Brea: If I heard it without ever having seen this episode, just heard the MP3, I think I'd be like, eh.

[2:00:46] Emilee: Right? Like, it's good, right? It's not, it's not a bad song, and they sound great, but it's just like...

[2:00:54] Brea: This is one of the songs, legal note, this is one of the songs from the competition from round one, where, we just talked about this in the last episode, but it was faced against a Max George song from season six, where it's like, it's just like, oh, you're granted a fast pass now to round two, and that's why it is here.

[2:01:19] Emilee: That's wild.

[2:01:21] Brea: That's wild that no Max George song.

[2:01:25] Emilee: Again, I think it's crazy that we're having a conversation about this Max George erasure now.

[2:01:31] Brea: What, like, no one said anything during round one about Max George.

[2:01:36] Emilee: But now...

[2:01:38] Brea: It's just funny, because of how much that character was in the 13 episodes that there were left.

[2:01:47] Emilee: I think he has, like, as many solos in the Glackett as Tina, which is like...

[2:01:53] Brea: That's disgusting.

[2:01:55] Emilee: Are we kidding?

[2:01:56] Brea: Oh my god.

[2:01:57] Emilee: Are you kidding me?

[2:01:58] Brea: Jesus Christ.

[2:01:59] Emilee: Yeah.

[2:02:01] Brea: If it's not Tina, then I think it's like Quinn or something, which is equally as...

[2:02:05] Emilee: Oh, even more sickening!

[2:02:06] Brea: Yeah, yeah.

[2:02:07] Emilee: Right.

[2:02:09] Brea: Okay, so on that note, Perfect, any final things to say about this performance?

[2:02:15] Emilee: No, thank you.

[2:02:16] Brea: No, thank you.

[2:02:17] Emilee: I think we've said, we've effectively said enough.

[2:02:20] Brea: Okay, final song of the episode against Perfect.

[2:02:23] Emilee: Ooh, this is fun.

[2:02:26] Brea: Is it?

[2:02:28] Emilee: Yeah, I'll leave it at that.

[2:02:31] Brea: That's not saying anything.

[2:02:32] Emilee: I know, you're so...

[2:02:34] Brea: I just look at your face for the reactions, it's great.

[2:02:36] Emilee: I'm just like, oh, I really...

[2:02:38] Brea: I haven't thought about this one in a while, either.

[2:02:41] Emilee: Oh.

[2:02:42] Brea: Um...

[2:02:44] Emilee: No, not in a bad way.

[2:02:46] Brea: But I think that this song is kind of divisive, for some reason.

[2:02:50] Emilee: Okay.

[2:02:51] Brea: Do we know what it is?

[2:02:53] Emilee: Oh.

[2:02:54] Brea: Um, um...

[2:02:56] Emilee: We're looking at, audio medium, we're looking at Sam, Artie, and Tina in the auditorium, looking at the stage.

[2:03:01] Brea: This is Mercedes.

[2:03:04] Emilee: Mercedes.

[2:03:06] Brea: Last song.

[2:03:07] Emilee: Last song.

[2:03:07] Brea: It's Someday We'll Be Together.

[2:03:08] Emilee: What's it called?

[2:03:09] Brea: Someday We'll Be Together.

[2:03:10] Emilee: Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[2:03:24] ♪ Musical number: "Someday We'll Be Together" — performed by Mercedes ♪

[2:05:18] Brea: Oh, my God. Okay. I love I don't know about y'all. I loved that. That was really good. And like, I have not done the exercise of ranking more solos. But I'm like that gotta be in the top five. That was so good. I feel like it's being slept on. And like, honestly, I don't know. I have so many things I want to say about this. But bringing it back to like the lazy kind of comment, you know, applied to Santana, and more famously to Mercedes, but I think it's funny that it's like, Oh, if you're gonna like, downplay my performance, because I'm just like a park and park singer, and I just stand on the stage. I love I don't even think this was on purpose. I love that this is kind of like a middle finger that she's like, Oh, I'm going to be active. I'm going to actively leave the auditorium.

[2:06:08] Emilee: And I think it's so funny that she's like, she leaves the auditorium through this song.

[2:06:15] Brea: I just think that's hilarious. I did notice. Did you catch the similarity between perfect?

[2:06:25] Emilee: And oh, you did. And this performance? Okay, wait, Emily. What was it?

[2:06:30] Brea: I wrote it. It's the half sweater.

[2:06:31] Emilee: The half sweater. Yeah.

[2:06:33] Brea: Half sweater. Kurt's wearing it.

[2:06:35] Emilee: That it's like, Oh my god, what are the odds that these two songs?

[2:06:39] Brea: It's the same sweater.

[2:06:40] Emilee: It's the same sweater.

[2:06:41] Brea: It's the turtleneck with the like, it's like the...

[2:06:44] Emilee: It's like sliced in half.

[2:06:45] Brea: Quarter. Yeah, it's like sliced in half. But in the first one, he's wearing a red shirt under it. And then the next one, he's wearing a different color. I didn't catch the color. But I just was like, half sweater.

[2:06:55] Emilee: That that was like, I clocked out. I was like, whoa.

[2:07:00] Brea: I don't know why I was under the impression that he just had multiple half sweaters.

[2:07:06] Emilee: One is sliced the other diagonal.

[2:07:10] Brea: I wouldn't put it past him.

[2:07:12] Emilee: Yeah. Right.

[2:07:13] Brea: That's so funny.

[2:07:14] Emilee: Who wants who wants to continue the discourse here?

[2:07:18] Brea: Well, you go with keep going with your notes.

[2:07:20] Emilee: Okay, yeah, I did. Okay, so this is like famous thing. We brought this up a number of times that like, I do think it's hilarious that, um, you know that she says before seeing this, that she opens for she's, you know, just been picked up to open for Beyonce. But okay, so, um, I was always under the impression that, um, like Elias, and I always think that that's like the funniest thing in the world. Because it's like, okay, she doesn't have an opener. But Joe glistener, the podcast, Joe messaged a few weeks ago and was like, I need to break my silence. You have been you have been providing a false narrative of Beyonce having an opener when he was like, I went to see Beyonce. Oh, gosh, I don't even know what year he stated. But DJ Khaled opened for her.

[2:08:08] Brea: See, okay, whenever you've made that joke before, I've been like, correct me if I'm wrong, but a long time ago, a long time ago, I feel like she did used to have openers. But I'm like thinking like, okay, didn't know if, if we're assuming that it's like Beyonce's most recent tour for what 2015? What I think Joe is saying, because I think that's like, almost like around the same time that like, DJ Khaled, like popped off to.

[2:08:36] Emilee: DJ Khaled was more like 2010. Or really? I mean, I just remember he used to be DJ Khaled. Like I heard that like all throughout my high school years. And like, I graduated high school in 2008.

[2:08:49] Brea: The DJ Khaled thing. I feel like DJ Khaled was like big when I was like, in college.

[2:08:57] Emilee: Oh, hang on, let me let me do a little research. Yeah. Maybe we can assume that Mercedes is DJ Khaled, and the glooniverse.

[2:09:10] Brea: You're not wrong. You're not wrong. You're not wrong, Brie.

[2:09:10] Emilee: Like, it says that he started in the 90s as a radio host. And then he's released his first album in 2006. Yeah, he was in 2007. I guess he didn't become like, maybe more mainstream until later. Because but in 2007, he was on a track with T-Pain and Rick Ross. And so I'm just thinking, he was all throughout my final high school days. And then the years following for sure.

[2:09:39] Brea: I'm thinking specifically, the just like, I don't know. I know close to nothing about DJ Khaled's career. But I do know that he made a cameo and Pitch Perfect. Three, which came out in 2017. So I'm like, that's what I'm basing it off of. Again, I don't know anything about the trajectory of his career.

[2:10:02] Emilee: Wasn't he also in the Barbie movie?

[2:10:04] Brea: He was not in Barbie.

[2:10:05] Emilee: As the warehouse guy?

[2:10:08] Brea: No, he was on.

[2:10:10] Emilee: Hold on. No, he was not.

[2:10:13] Brea: No. No, I'm looking. He was in Pitch Perfect three, though.

[2:10:18] Emilee: Thank you. He's in Bad Boys Ride or Die. Did you see Bad Boys Ride or Die?

[2:10:24] Brea: I did not see Bad Boys Ride or Die.

[2:10:25] Emilee: No, but I totally would. Bad Boys 1 and 2 are hilarious.

[2:10:29] Brea: Oh, he was in Bad Boys for Life, too. So is that the second one?

[2:10:33] Emilee: I am not a Bad Boys fan. I am not a bad boy.

[2:10:37] Brea: So wait, DJ Khaled opened Beyonce's Renaissance tour. Oh, that's recent.

[2:10:46] Emilee: Recent. Yeah.

[2:10:47] Brea: Huh. Anyway, I don't know about y'all. I am. I'm close to done talking about DJ Khaled, unless anybody would like to put a final.

[2:10:55] Emilee: No, except he has 14 albums out. That's crazy.

[2:10:58] Brea: All right. That was my last one.

[2:11:01] Emilee: I just need to figure out why I thought he was in the Barbie movie.

[2:11:04] Brea: Maybe a lookalike. There was somebody. He played somebody in like a warehouse.

[2:11:08] Emilee: I don't know. We can stop talking about DJ Khaled.

[2:11:12] Brea: Enough.

[2:11:13] Emilee: If you insist.

[2:11:14] Brea: He wasn't in Glee.

[2:11:15] Emilee: I literally only came on this podcast to talk about DJ Khaled, but I guess you could just cut me off.

[2:11:21] Brea: She worked it in. She worked it in.

[2:11:23] Emilee: We made it happen.

[2:11:25] Brea: OK, and then the final note that I have here is that I feel like we have. I don't know about y'all. If you have things to talk about. Now I'm throwing way too many things potentially, but this one against Papa Don't Preach in round one, which I think.

[2:11:43] Emilee: I feel correct in saying that Papa Don't Preach was the only Quolo that didn't make it out of round one.

[2:11:50] Brea: OK, thank you.

[2:11:51] Emilee: And and I know that people were upset about that, but I'm like.

[2:11:58] Brea: We're really come on with the Quinn bias is showing heavy. If you're trying to say the Papa Don't Preach is better than this.

[2:12:07] Emilee: Agreed. It's not bad, right? It's great.

[2:12:09] Brea: It's wonderful. It's cute. It's, you know, short.

[2:12:11] Emilee: But yeah, against this, there's no competition, people.

[2:12:14] Brea: Come on.

[2:12:15] Emilee: Right, right.

[2:12:16] Brea: So anyway, that that is the extent of my notes. If anybody would like to continue, I'll continue.

[2:12:24] Emilee: I love Rachel's fake crocodile tears because, you know, that you think they're fake.

[2:12:30] Brea: I think they're fake.

[2:12:31] Emilee: I think they're real.

[2:12:32] Brea: When Mr. Shoe is singing his song, they're all kind of breaking down. They sing teacher children. But here I think they're fake and I think they're for the camera.

[2:12:41] Emilee: But that's just me.

[2:12:43] Brea: I think they're real for the record.

[2:12:44] Emilee: I'm going to disagree.

[2:12:45] Brea: All right, all right.

[2:12:46] Emilee: That's fine.

[2:12:46] Brea: That's fair.

[2:12:48] Emilee: But no, I love it. It's, you know, it's classic Mercedes. I think it's a way to go out on a bang. Is it her best? Not in my opinion, but definitely, like you said, top five, top ten for sure.

[2:13:02] Brea: But yeah, I kind of forget about it because it's right at the end, because we don't hear a ton from her in season six.

[2:13:10] Emilee: It's, you know, she's around, but solo wise, there's not a ton.

[2:13:15] Brea: So it's I think it's the perfect departure for Mercedes Jones. And I think it was like a really inspired choice. The song selection to a song that I was not familiar with. Like I grew up like listening to like a lot of like Motown and Diana Ross in the car and everything. But this was like not one that was on the rotation.

[2:13:35] Emilee: I don't know about y'all. If you knew the song beforehand.

[2:13:38] Brea: A little bit like the chorus for.

[2:13:40] Emilee: Yeah, I know.

[2:13:41] Brea: But it was not on the rotation. And I also was raised on a lot of Motown and stuff. But for whatever reason, this song was not on the rotation.

[2:13:47] Emilee: Yeah, I'm like, I'm very thankful that like this was brought to my attention. I think this is such a beautiful song. And I honestly think it's better than the original as well. I think that Amber does something really, really special with this.

[2:14:00] Brea: But Brie, what are you thinking?

[2:14:02] Emilee: Oh, I mean, I think it's great. It's just it's so hard to talk about any Amber Riley song with any sort of like intelligence because I'm just sitting here like, so good.

[2:14:14] Brea: Just good, of course.

[2:14:18] Emilee: First off, she looks incredible. Like, oh, my God.

[2:14:20] Brea: Oh, I was gonna say that outfit.

[2:14:24] Emilee: Banging.

[2:14:25] Brea: The outfit is perfect for her hair looks amazing. Um, yeah, I haven't seen this episode in so so long. Um, but I was I got upset.

[2:15:06] Andrew: Welcome back to Gleek of the Week! Today, we have Brea and Emilee joining us to discuss some fantastic performances from Glee.

[2:15:36] Brea: Thanks for having us! We're excited to dive into these songs.

[2:16:04] Emilee: Absolutely! I can't wait to talk about Kurt's half sweater and how it plays into the performances.

[2:16:32] Andrew: Right? It's such a memorable look. Let's kick things off with "Hold On."

[2:17:00] Brea: "Hold On" is such a short number, but it packs a punch. I love how it showcases the characters' emotions.

[2:17:28] Emilee: Yes! And the way they harmonize really brings out the message of the song.

[2:17:56] Andrew: I agree. It's interesting how even the shorter songs can leave a lasting impact.

[2:18:24] Brea: And speaking of impact, "Lose My Breath" has been wreaking havoc on the Glacket!

[2:18:52] Emilee: Oh my gosh, yes! It's been a tough competition, but I think it deserves to move forward.

[2:19:12] Andrew: For sure! Now, let's talk about "Perfect." What do you both think?

[2:19:32] Brea: "Perfect" is such a beautiful rendition. The emotion in the performance is just incredible.

[2:19:52] Emilee: I love how it showcases the vulnerability of the characters. It's a standout moment.

[2:20:12] Andrew: Definitely. And then we have "Someday We'll Be Together." What are your thoughts on that one?

[2:20:40] Brea: It's such a classic! The nostalgia really hits hard with that performance.

[2:21:08] Emilee: I agree! It brings back so many memories from the show.

[2:21:36] Andrew: And how about "Sweet Transvestite"? That's always a fun one to discuss.

[2:22:04] Brea: "Sweet Transvestite" is iconic! The energy in that performance is unmatched.

[2:22:32] Emilee: Yes! And the costumes are just fabulous. It really captures the spirit of the original.

[2:23:00] Andrew: And then we have "There Are Worse Things I Could Do." What do you think about that performance?

[2:23:28] Brea: It's such a powerful moment for the character. The delivery is just spot on.

[2:23:56] Emilee: Absolutely! It really highlights the struggles and complexities of the character.

[2:24:24] Andrew: And lastly, "You're the Top." It's such a fun number!

[2:24:52] Brea: "You're the Top" is a great showcase of talent. The chemistry between the performers is fantastic.

[2:25:20] Emilee: I love how playful it is! It really lightens the mood.

[2:25:48] Andrew: Well, it sounds like we have some strong contenders for the Glacket this week!

[2:26:16] Brea: For sure! I can't wait to see how it all shakes out.

[2:26:44] Emilee: Same here! Thanks for having us, Andrew.

[2:27:12] Andrew: Thank you both for joining! It's always a blast discussing Glee with you.

[2:27:40] Brea: Until next time!

[2:28:08] Emilee: Bye everyone!

[2:28:36] Andrew: Bye!