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[0:00] Andrew: We've got a mission to find the best song that's ever been unglee.

[0:09] Andrew: There's no remote to it, so don't get mad at me.

[0:17] Andrew: Glacket by Glackik.

[0:19] Andrew: We'll rank everyone to see which song will move closer to spot number one.

[4:44] Andrew: Gleek of the week.

[4:44] Andrew: Click, click, click of the week.

[4:44] Andrew: It's click, click of the week.

[4:44] Andrew: Hi everybody, it's me, Andrew.

[4:44] Andrew: Uh again this week to help find the best song ugly.

[4:44] Andrew: And guess what?

[4:44] Andrew: I have uh two famous Gleek joining me this week to help on that journey.

[4:44] Andrew: Um okay, who wants the first intro?

[4:44] Andrew: I guess like it combined.

[4:44] Andrew: Ian and Lena from Recovering Gleek.

[4:44] Lena: The gates are open.

[4:44] Ian: Yeah.

[4:44] Lena: Let's introduce ourselves at the exact same time.

[4:44] Ian: Okay, perfect.

[4:44] Lena: One, two, three.

[4:44] Ian: Hey you guys, it's so exciting to be here.

[4:44] Lena: I host a podcast.

[4:44] Ian: I host a podcast called Recovering Gleek Podcast.

[4:44] Lena: I knew this.

[4:44] Ian: Uh, with my friend Vina Kanazar, who is a doctor and she's also a Libra and she's a Taurus moon.

[4:44] Ian: And she's a Gemini rising.

[4:44] Lena: I'm a Gemini.

[4:44] Lena: I don't know my rising or my moon, but I think Lena does.

[4:44] Lena: Yeah.

[4:44] Lena: I think fuck.

[4:44] Ian: How are you?

[4:44] Ian: I know you were like a Scorpio.

[4:44] Lena: There was air in there.

[4:44] Lena: Yeah.

[4:44] Lena: Oh, you're Libra rising.

[4:44] Ian: Yeah, because that was why you're so like the inverse of each other, and that's why all of our episodes are three hours long.

[4:44] Lena: Because we're certified yappers.

[4:44] Ian: I don't I don't know the moon sun stuff for myself to be.

[4:44] Lena: We can do you know what time you were born?

[4:44] Ian: I can work this out for you.

[4:44] Lena: I know.

[4:44] Lena: She's a doctor.

[4:44] Ian: I'm a doctor.

[4:44] Ian: I did.

[4:44] Ian: I was like very impressed with myself that I was able to like listen to you both at the same time.

[4:44] Lena: Oh my god.

[4:44] Lena: Yeah, I was like, my brain is on a whole nother level right now.

[4:44] Ian: I couldn't even hear a word that Ian said.

[4:44] Lena: So I mostly just repeated what you were saying.

[4:44] Ian: I noticed you were doing that.

[4:44] Ian: It kind of scared me.

[4:44] Lena: Um but I'm the Scorpio.

[4:44] Lena: Does that does that mean anything?

[4:44] Lena: Does that mean that I should be doing three hour long episodes?

[4:44] Ian: It means this week you should be doing a three-hour long episode.

[4:44] Lena: Okay, alright.

[4:44] Lena: Well, my calendar is pretty.

[4:44] Lena: I said this last time I was here.

[4:44] Lena: Connor and Alice in Alamo, I'm coming for you.

[4:44] Lena: I want the laws.

[4:44] Ian: Oh my god.

[4:44] Ian: You've got two certified yappers here.

[4:44] Lena: Okay, alright.

[4:44] Lena: Um, all right.

[4:44] Lena: Speaking of yapping, do we want to um do the classic bit?

[4:44] Ian: It this bit never gets old.

[4:44] Ian: It's talking about Glacket grievances.

[4:44] Ian: Um I feel like, okay, so Lena, I understand that you have a singular Glacket grievance.

[4:44] Lena: Yeah, and it's not even like an actual like real grievance.

[4:44] Lena: I kind of like maybe understand where someone would be coming from when they make this decision, but it is a grievance nonetheless.

[4:44] Ian: Okay, do we wanna do we want to do that right now or do we want to kind of hold it?

[4:44] Lena: I think let's hold it.

[4:44] Lena: Let's hear what Ian has to say, because he obviously has some shit to say.

[4:44] Ian: So let's hear him, let's hear him out.

[4:44] Ian: Do we swear here?

[4:44] Ian: I'm so sorry.

[4:44] Ian: I think I asked this.

[4:44] Lena: You absolutely can.

[4:44] Lena: Every episode's explicit.

[4:44] Ian: Oh thank God.

[4:44] Ian: But it is mostly like teenage girls that listen to it.

[4:44] Lena: I so I don't know what the I know so many teen I've been like my cousins recently have been hanging out with them.

[4:44] Lena: They swear like crazy, and I'm like, ew, you were like four years old the other day.

[4:44] Ian: Why are you saying the F word?

[4:44] Lena: Because they're listening to Gleek of the Week podcast.

[4:44] Lena: That's why I'm not sure.

[4:44] Ian: That's my bad influence on the youth of America.

[4:44] Ian: I'm gonna give them three hours of me saying the F word here today.

[4:44] Lena: Great, perfect.

[4:44] Lena: Um, do you wanna do you wanna go into those expletive grievances?

[4:44] Ian: Okay, you got it.

[4:44] Ian: Um, so I will say a lot of this is stuff that I have just like messaged you in the past.

[4:44] Ian: I literally went through uh our Instagram convo wait to review.

[4:44] Ian: I'm talking to you, Andrew.

[4:44] Andrew: Yes.

[4:44] Ian: I I'm so sorry to cut you off so soon into your grievances, but you and Zach do the same exact thing, and I've told you this, where it's like you and Zach will just be like listening to something that I'm saying, and it's never like, hey Andrew, hope you're doing well.

[4:44] Ian: Uh this is I'm listening to your episode, uh, and this is what I have to say about like vocal adrenaline season six.

[4:44] Ian: But you just go into the thought as if like I know where you're at right now.

[4:44] Andrew: Okay, but I separate our business relationship from our personal relationship because I only message you about my thoughts on the podcast to the official Gleek of the Week.

[4:54] Ian: The official one.

[4:55] Andrew: Honestly, good for you.

[4:56] Ian: That's and that's on boundaries.

[4:58] Andrew: Exactly.

[4:58] Ian: If I'm talking to McGuire Guy McGuire Guy, that's another plug for my personal.

[5:03] Ian: I'm commenting on your stories, I'm laughing at your jokes.

[5:06] Ian: I'm telling you that to this day, every time I listen to, oh my gosh, what is that song called?

[5:12] Ian: That Olivia Rodrigo song.

[5:14] Lena: Oh, yeah.

[5:15] Ian: That starts with her knocking on the door, right?

[5:17] Lena: Yes.

[5:18] Ian: What is the lyric about the cat?

[5:19] Lena: Oh, um, yeah.

[5:23] Lena: Um because the original lyric is yes, I know he that he's my ex, but can't you people reconnect?

[5:28] Ian: Yes, I know that he's my ex, but can't you people reconnect.

[5:30] Ian: I only see him as a friend.

[5:32] Lena: And once upon a time, Andrew posted a picture of him and Eliza's cat, and the caption was It's not my cat, just for the record.

[5:39] Ian: It's it's just Eliza's cat.

[5:41] Ian: He is constantly traveling, so I've like inherited Toffee, but anyway, yes.

[5:46] Ian: And the caption was yes, I know that he's my cat, but can't you people reconnect.

[5:50] Ian: I only see him as a cat.

[5:51] Lena: Biggest lie I've ever said.

[5:54] Lena: I don't know why that tickled me so hard.

[5:57] Lena: And every time that was in what September to this day, if I listen to Bad Idea, right?

[6:04] Ian: That's what plays in my head.

[6:05] Lena: There is a catchy.

[6:05] Lena: That's also intense.

[6:07] Ian: I know you're a big Olivia Rodrigo stan, so I was absolutely amazing.

[6:16] Lena: A lot of cat in my head.

[6:17] Lena: There is a Toffee remix for every single song in the um in the music library.

[6:23] Ian: So just so you know that Toffee Right.

[6:28] Ian: Toffee is having a brat summer.

[6:30] Lena: Three six Toffee.

[6:31] Ian: Oh, we're we're doing that.

[6:32] Lena: I love that.

[6:33] Lena: That worked.

[6:35] Ian: In the mirror, you're just looking at Toffee.

[6:37] Lena: Right.

[6:37] Lena: Yes.

[6:38] Ian: That's good.

[6:39] Ian: My favorite thing recently is to just look at people, strangers on the street, and like things on my desk and like say if it has a brat if it's having a brat summer or not.

[6:50] Lena: And some things are very clear and some things are not.

[6:52] Lena: So I'm happy that Toffee's having a brat summer.

[6:55] Ian: She really is.

[6:56] Ian: I was hanging out with my brother and my sister-in-law, my nephew, and uh me and Lena's friend Kira last night.

[7:03] Ian: And my nephew, who's three, was wearing like neon lime green shoes.

[7:07] Ian: And I said, Oh my gosh, he's having a brat summer.

[7:09] Lena: Oh, yeah.

[7:10] Ian: And no one knew what I was talking about.

[7:12] Ian: And I had to walk them through it.

[7:14] Lena: Yes.

[7:15] Ian: And I had to pull, I know, homophobic.

[7:18] Ian: And I had to pull up the album art and be like, this is the color.

[7:21] Ian: Look at his shoes.

[7:22] Ian: It was a funny joke.

[7:23] Ian: Please laugh with me.

[7:24] Lena: Oh god.

[7:25] Lena: I'm getting chills down my spine, just like explaining a joke to someone.

[7:30] Lena: Especially a family member.

[7:32] Lena: There's nothing like so devastating.

[7:34] Lena: Scary.

[7:35] Ian: But all this to say that I don't appreciate you talking smack about me on your podcast.

[7:40] Ian: I have boundaries, and I only speak directly about my thoughts on the podcast with no context to your business account.

[7:46] Andrew: Uh-huh.

[7:47] Ian: And I also like you told me this previously, and you sent me a screenshot of what Zach sent, and it was literally exactly what I had said, which is I believe it was when Amon was on the podcast and he talked about how good season six vocal adrenaline was.

[8:01] Andrew: Yes.

[8:01] Ian: And I messaged you to be like, finally someone says it.

[8:04] Ian: They don't get their due.

[8:05] Ian: They're so amazing.

[8:06] Andrew: And then Zach had said the same thing to you.

[8:10] Ian: Yeah, you share a brain.

[8:11] Ian: He's got taste.

[8:13] Andrew: Yeah, I mean I guess someone needs to on this podcast.

[8:16] Ian: Where's Max George in round two?

[8:18] Andrew: Max George is he never.

[8:20] Ian: No, I know.

[8:21] Ian: Yeah, he's dead on site.

[8:23] Lena: Wait, where do you stand on the Max George of it all when it comes to the Glee the music?

[8:30] Lena: Season six vocal adrenaline, babe.

[8:32] Lena: Uh I feel like looking back, I just don't like the songs that they pick for vocal adrenaline in season six.

[8:41] Lena: So that's my overarching feeling.

[8:43] Ian: I don't know that I like rock lobster.

[8:45] Lena: Come on.

[8:46] Ian: Oh, it's good.

[8:47] Lena: Are you kidding me?

[8:50] Ian: I'm not at all.

[8:52] Ian: You don't like rock lobster and to whip it.

[8:56] Lena: Oh, wait, I thought Lena, I thought you were saying that you like Rock Lobster.

[8:59] Lena: No, I actually Rock Lobster, yeah, is probably my favorite of the Max George.

[9:05] Ian: Well, I'm glad.

[9:06] Ian: Thanks.

[9:07] Ian: The beehives the women have when they do that dance move where they sit on the men's laps and the men stick their legs out, so it looks like they have four legs and two arms.

[9:15] Lena: I know the move.

[9:16] Ian: No, you don't.

[9:16] Lena: I'm looking at it.

[9:17] Ian: I know the move.

[9:18] Lena: No, I know the move.

[9:19] Ian: If I speak the video instead of you watching it, you'll then like it.

[9:22] Lena: Then I'll get it.

[9:23] Ian: Okay.

[9:24] Ian: Yes, exactly.

[9:26] Ian: Yeah.

[9:28] Ian: It's also like it's not like I don't like it.

[9:30] Ian: It's also, it's mostly just it's now my jam.

[9:35] Ian: And that's the thing too is I have maybe grievances with the current glacket, but it's that's just my my, you know, I don't know that I feel.

[9:42] Lena: Wait, last time I checked, it was singular grievance.

[9:45] Lena: Is it plural?

[9:46] Ian: Okay, so maybe they've grown.

[9:47] Lena: No, not at all.

[9:49] Lena: I'm taking notes.

[9:50] Lena: Maybe I'll agree with Ian.

[9:51] Ian: Okay, okay, okay.

[9:52] Ian: Wait.

[9:53] Ian: We've been really putting it off.

[9:55] Ian: I just want to build up momentum.

[9:58] Lena: Okay.

[9:58] Ian: You don't like Hey Mickey?

[10:00] Lena: I'm sorry.

[10:01] Ian: I had pulled up a list of the Max George songs.

[10:03] Ian: We're moving on.

[10:04] Ian: First of all, I want to say last time I was on this podcast, I talked about how my life would suck without you lost sway in round one.

[10:13] Ian: Uh and it was an episode that had friend of the podcast Brantley on.

[10:17] Lena: Brantley, yeah.

[10:18] Ian: And afterwards, Brantley personally reached out to me to apologize.

[10:22] Lena: Iconic, Iconic.

[10:25] Ian: Brantley does live with that.

[10:27] Ian: Yeah.

[10:27] Ian: And said that they have regretted their decision ever since that episode aired.

[10:31] Ian: So Brantley, shout out to you, you're a real one.

[10:34] Lena: Yeah.

[10:34] Ian: I forgive you.

[10:36] Lena: Bullying this person.

[10:37] Ian: I forgive you.

[10:38] Ian: Yeah, publicly, publicly.

[10:39] Ian: Yes.

[10:42] Ian: Okay.

[10:43] Ian: So I scrolled through our messages to kind of do it.

[10:47] Ian: You just drank water.

[10:50] Ian: Like you chose to drink water because then immediately didn't get it.

[10:52] Ian: As you're talking.

[10:54] Ian: It's like scary.

[10:56] Ian: It's like the person talks through a belch.

[11:01] Ian: It's like you had time to do the water and yet you chose that moment.

[11:05] Ian: You said I've got to talk.

[11:10] Ian: I'm productive.

[11:12] Ian: Multitasker.

[11:12] Ian: I'm productive.

[11:12] Lena: You know what's so scary is that the listeners know how long this episode is right now because they can see how long it is.

[11:20] Ian: And we don't.

[11:20] Ian: But I we don't in this moment.

[11:24] Lena: I'm so scared.

[11:24] Ian: They see that four-hour, 20-minute runtime, and they think this is gonna be.

[11:29] Lena: Well, maybe they're seeing like a 56 and we just hate each other after like really.

[11:33] Ian: Did you guys ever listen to Gilmore Guys the podcast?

[11:37] Lena: No.

[11:38] Ian: Well, it was a podcast that did Gilmore Girls, and then they came out with like the second like part of Gilmore Girls, like on Netflix in like 2018.

[11:46] Lena: You remember what I'm saying?

[11:48] Ian: Anyway, Gilmore Guys did podcasts about that, and each episode was like, I swear to god, like six or seven hours long.

[11:55] Lena: Uh maybe that's us today.

[11:57] Ian: Well, one time Lena and I did an episode on Into the Woods, and we talked so long that Patreon wouldn't let us upload it as one file.

[12:05] Lena: No.

[12:08] Ian: Split it in half.

[12:10] Lena: That's so good.

[12:13] Ian: Okay, I will I will get to the grievances now.

[12:16] Ian: So all of these, I like look, took notes.

[12:18] Ian: I scrolled through our chat to see what ones I brought up in the past, and I did sit down today and I rewatched every single number that I talked about, both the one that won and the one that lost to see if I stood by my opinions.

[12:29] Ian: Um the first one is Mr. Roboto slash counting stars losing to season five Valerie.

[12:37] Ian: I was very upset at the time because I'm like, Valerie's already on this show, and it's a better version of Valerie.

[12:44] Ian: So why is this version beating out Mr. Roboto Counting Stars?

[12:48] Ian: Which I think is very fun.

[12:49] Ian: But watching the MP4 today.

[12:52] Ian: You get it.

[12:52] Ian: I still would have picked Mr. Roboto, but I'm not mad about it anymore.

[12:58] Ian: They're like on equal enough.

[13:02] Ian: So I forgive you.

[13:03] Ian: I forgive you for that.

[13:04] Ian: That was a lot of like that was a lot of words to just like reach that conclusion.

[13:08] Lena: Yeah, yeah.

[13:08] Ian: Yes, thank you.

[13:09] Ian: I love to hear myself talk.

[13:12] Ian: It's like, okay.

[13:13] Ian: You're not mad.

[13:14] Ian: Got it.

[13:15] Ian: Um, another one, another one that I'm not mad about, which actually I'm on your side with this one, Andrew, is home losing to on my own.

[13:22] Ian: I just want to give a shout out.

[13:23] Ian: Season one home is incredible.

[13:25] Ian: I love it so much.

[13:26] Ian: I stream it all the time.

[13:27] Ian: So many of the girls out here do not get her.

[13:30] Ian: They don't understand.

[13:31] Ian: I get her.

[13:32] Ian: I get her.

[13:33] Ian: It's incredible.

[13:33] Ian: I love her so much.

[13:34] Ian: It gives me chills.

[13:35] Lena: Yes.

[13:36] Ian: It's amazing.

[13:37] Lena: Uh huh.

[13:37] Ian: But like with what was said on that episode, On My Own is such a perfect introduction to a character.

[13:44] Ian: There is so much character building for Rachel in that like one two minute clip that I'm also not mad about that winning.

[13:52] Ian: I think that ends the ones that I'm like not.

[13:56] Ian: No, there's one more that I'm not mad about.

[13:58] Ian: Okay.

[13:58] Ian: This is personal preference.

[14:00] Ian: Uh, I would have picked pure imagination over my favorite things.

[14:03] Lena: Okay.

[14:04] Ian: I think my favorite things is a very funny joke, but I feel like it's one joke that stretches out for two minutes.

[14:10] Ian: They never heighten it enough for me personally.

[14:13] Ian: Okay.

[14:14] Ian: And then I just, I don't know.

[14:15] Ian: I love Pure Imagination, which is a little out of character for me.

[14:20] Ian: Um, I think one, which this gets into the tricky, like, do we take into consideration the real world implications of every number? But I think it's a beautiful send-off for Gene since the actor was unable to continue with the show. It's like a very beautiful way to honor that character. I think it's a really beautiful moment between Sue and Will and Sue and the Glee Club.

[14:42] Lena: Yeah.

[14:42] Ian: And also, I don't know. It tugs at my heartstrings, it makes me very emotional. I personally am a fan of Pure Imagination. Would have picked it. No, I feel crazy because like when I was like editing back that episode when we were talking about Pure Imagination, we don't even name drop Gene once. It was just like it was just another song that the Glee Club did. So I thank you for, you know, yeah, giving the honor that very deserved.

[15:09] Lena: Yes.

[15:10] Ian: And like MP3 wise, I don't stream Pure Imagination personally.

[15:14] Lena: Yeah.

[15:15] Ian: But watching it with the video, everyone in that scene is acting. It is gorgeous. And there's a moment where Sue reaches out instinctively and grabs Will's hand and he kind of glances over at her, wondering if he should say anything, and then he just lets it go. It's beautiful. I think that was the episode that she's I don't think I said this in the episode. Maybe I did. This is the episode that she submitted for the Emmys. Did she win that year?

[15:36] Lena: I don't.

[15:36] Ian: I don't know. I know she went for season one. I don't know about season two.

[15:40] Lena: Anyway.

[15:41] Ian: Who knows?

[15:42] Lena: Who knows?

[15:43] Ian: No one.

[15:44] Lena: No one.

[15:45] Ian: It's literally, it's been erased. It was in a library of Alexandria. We'll never know. There's no way of knowing.

[15:51] Lena: Yeah.

[15:51] Ian: It's gone to history shoot.

[15:54] Lena: Alright.

[15:55] Ian: Ones that I have for real grievances about. Need You Now should have beaten Cry.

[16:00] Lena: Thank you.

[16:02] Ian: Jesus Christ. Oh my god. I messaged you about this, but the way that everyone has tricked themselves into thinking that Cry lost and it's not in round three, because it shouldn't be in round three. It should not.

[16:13] Lena: Yeah.

[16:14] Ian: Should not.

[16:15] Lena: Yeah.

[16:16] Ian: I don't care for Puckleberry very much, but Need You Now is the moment in the show where I went, Oh, I understand why this pairing has a following. They are like kind of charming together. And I think we should have won. Uh Beast like singing along to it alone. Hello.

[16:32] Lena: Yeah.

[16:33] Ian: Touched them. Just your heart.

[16:37] Lena: Alright.

[16:39] Ian: This one, I think this is actually the only one that I'm like for real mad about. And this is the wound is fresh.

[16:47] Lena: Which is Uninvited.

[16:50] Ian: Just barely lost to Rio slash Hungry Like the Wolf. Crazy. That's insane to me.

[17:00] Lena: Wait, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but Lena, you interjecting. Is that you saying that that is your one singular grievance?

[17:09] Lena: You know, the more I look, the more I have grievances.

[17:11] Ian: So okay.

[17:13] Lena: It's not my one singular, but I do agree.

[17:15] Ian: We're officially in the plural territory.

[17:17] Lena: Yes.

[17:20] Ian: I uh first I love Uninvited.

[17:23] Lena: Yes.

[17:25] Ian: That competition hurt. It's fresh. It was a week ago today that that happened.

[17:32] Lena: Um what do I have to say about it? I don't know. That was like one competition that I was like, why are we doing this?

[17:39] Ian: Like, I actually the Glacket is not fun anymore.

[17:44] Lena: But like that was like a what a weird competition to like have that be the takeaway. But like I was just like, these are both good. Let's yeah.

[17:52] Ian: I don't know. It wasn't fun in that moment for me.

[17:55] Lena: Yeah, whose idea is it to pit these songs against each other? Can't we just love them all?

[17:59] Ian: There's no way of knowing.

[18:00] Lena: Yeah.

[18:01] Ian: I thought true dread this morning as I woke up. I said, what if I have two darlings today and I have to choose?

[18:07] Lena: Like it's really I'm I'm full of dread.

[18:10] Ian: Well, Lena, last time that you were on the Glacket, um was the first episode around two, and it was there that there was a competition that frequently gets brought up from that episode that people including myself are upset about. Um if I were a boy winning over love song, miss her down bad.

[18:31] Lena: And uh yeah, I I think that it's it's only right that every time that you're here, maybe a darling is murdered on site.

[18:39] Lena: Yeah, well, that makes sense with uh everything about me is I'm a darling, so here I am.

[18:45] Ian: Yeah.

[18:47] Lena: Oh gosh.

[18:48] Ian: Okay, wait, so um, Ian, you were at the the end of your grievances.

[18:53] Lena: Um yeah, those are the things that I was upset about. But Uninvited is the big one.

[18:57] Ian: It she deserves justice. Do you want to say anything about her?

[19:00] Lena: Um, I will say this.

[19:02] Ian: Do you want to sing anything about her?

[19:06] Lena: Um I genuinely can say confidently that Uninvited is a top five Rolo for me, and I can say cautiously that it might be a top three.

[19:17] Ian: I can only think of two Rachel Solos off the top of my head that I definitively like more, which is Dromp and My Man.

[19:24] Lena: I love it.

[19:25] Ian: But you gotta do the thing, and I think that I only like I only like texted you about this. I didn't say it in the episode. But like when Elias and I like did the exercise, everyone's done this, where they listen to every single Rachel, or every single Rolo. Everyone's done this with their partner.

[19:40] Lena: Yeah.

[19:41] Ian: Um and uh we ranked all of the Rolos, and I think Uninvited came in at like 17.

[19:42] Lena: I think.

[19:51] Ian: Like there are a lot of good Rolos.

[19:54] Lena: You gotta consider them all.

[19:55] Ian: No, I no, and I agree. Why I like Uninvited specifically is Rachel sings so much in this show, and she is incredibly talented. So, like, she sings pretty much every song well, but they all kind of blend together. Uninvited brings something out in her voice that we rarely ever get to hear. There's that moment right before the bridge when she holds out the an unfortunate slight and she brings in a rasp in her voice that she rarely ever gets to use.

[20:28] Lena: Like Leah Michelle, so constantly on the show, is singing these musical theater ballads or like pop songs, but pop songs that are a little bit prettier.

[20:39] Ian: She rarely ever gets to use kind of a rock or grunge part of her voice. It does happen every once in a while, but it is much rarer. And so I loved that this song intro not introduced, but allowed her to flex that muscle. And also, what a way to start a season.

[20:55] Lena: Yeah, to be like drama. The season opens with Rachel literally getting fired, and then three minutes in, we are getting this song that's just Rachel watching her dreams come crumble, singing Alanis Morissette and getting driven off the lot.

[21:09] Ian: It's iconic, it's incredible.

[21:11] Lena: That's like the only season that starts with like a cold open, like a true cold.

[21:17] Ian: We're just going into it.

[21:18] Lena: Yeah.

[21:19] Ian: Yeah.

[21:19] Lena: And also you go read.

[21:22] Ian: Sorry.

[21:22] Lena: I was just saying, like this year, I've thought about that song so much. And in my like most dramatic moments, I'm like, I'm just like Rachel singing Uninvited right now. Like it really left impression on me.

[21:33] Ian: Yes.

[21:34] Lena: Well, that's the thing. Um Patrick says in that episode, which I respect this, that the reason he picks Rio Hungry Like the Wolf over Uninvited is he's like, if I were to make a list just off the top of my head of every song on Glee, I don't think I would even think of Uninvited.

[21:52] Ian: And I fully respect that, and that's why the Glacket is fun to have different people on because everyone has a different perspective.

[21:59] Lena: In to me in my mind, Uninvited is like so iconic later Glee. And I literally never remember that Rio Hungry Like the Wolf happened. If I think of Matt Bomer, I think of Somebody That I Used to Know, and then I'm like, oh, I guess he did sing another song that I think.

[22:16] Ian: I like the Duran Duran mashup more.

[22:19] Lena: Now I mean watching it today, watching it today, it is good, but it didn't leave it much of an impression on me personally.

[22:26] Ian: Uh-huh.

[22:26] Lena: I think that the one thing that I was really stuck on was that I think maybe Patrick said this as well. That it was like I think that this is like kind of unfair, maybe.

[22:38] Ian: That it's like when you have like Rachel doing like Uninvited, it's like it's just Leah Michelle doing Uninvited, right?

[22:44] Lena: No, totally.

[22:45] Ian: But like you have a Duran Duran mashup.

[22:48] Lena: Yes, that's yeah.

[22:49] Ian: Good. They put something into it, right?

[22:53] Lena: And it worked.

[22:54] Ian: Yes, it is a unique, it's a song that does not exist outside of Glee.

[22:58] Lena: Right.

[22:58] Ian: Yeah.

[22:59] Lena: 100%.

[23:00] Ian: 100%.

[23:01] Lena: So that's that's where I was voting from. Even though I do really like Uninvited, even though it is number 17 of the 42 Rolos in the series.

[23:11] Ian: So anyway.

[23:13] Lena: Um, wait, so Ian, with all that being said, do you have any further things to say?

[23:18] Ian: You know, I do. So ultimately, the Glacket has my respect. And as a person who's participated, it's hard to, you know, you know, pit these against each other. And this part I have actually two in one episode that um it's just unfortunate because these two songs were like literally my hyperfixation songs, my hyperfixation Glee songs just recently. But when Heather Morris was on the show, there was two things that I I have to disagree with just because they were my faves.

[23:49] Lena: But when I get you alone versus Alone, now listen, I love K-Chen.

[23:49] Ian: I love K-Chen.

[23:55] Lena: But when I get you alone does something to my bones, oh I know this about you.

[24:01] Ian: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[24:03] Lena: Like it is I like can't even deal. I hate a flash mob, but I love this song. They put crack in it.

[24:09] Ian: And then the other one that I that I really feel like they put like crack in, not to say crack again, but say crack again.

[24:20] Lena: When The Scientist beat Blame It on the Alcohol, oi, Heather Morris. What the heck?

[24:27] Ian: I love Blame It on the Alcohol so much. It is such like for some reason it's been on like on my YouTube page, my homepage. It's like one of the first videos every single time because I watched that that that song like a million times. I don't know why.

[24:39] Lena: It doesn't make my bones.

[24:43] Ian: Something are just unfortunate.

[24:44] Lena: Do you want to do that?

[24:44] Ian: So funny is that I have the same exact relationship with The Scientist, and I'm sure that I've said this in a prior episode. But there is when you search The Scientist on YouTube, Glee version, obviously, there is like a the first one to come up is like swi from a YouTube channel, Swifty Gleek Smile.

[25:05] Lena: And it says Swifty Gleek Smiler in the bottom left-hand corner.

[25:10] Ian: And like me and Alison, like when we would come home after after a night, that that is the song that I my brain needs at that hour.

[25:21] Lena: Oh my gosh, I totally hear you.

[25:22] Ian: Yeah, so Swifty Glee smiled.

[25:25] Lena: It's a difference of opinion.

[25:26] Ian: Yeah, totally.

[25:27] Lena: And e the the Glacket has my respect.

[25:30] Ian: So I completely understand.

[25:31] Lena: I mean, we're gonna have to make some tough calls today.

[25:33] Ian: I don't even I can't even imagine.

[25:35] Lena: I'm actually scared.

[25:36] Ian: Oh yeah.

[25:37] Lena: What are we what are we rooting for?

[25:39] Ian: What are we feeling this evening?

[25:42] Lena: Well, I had an inkling.

[25:45] Ian: Well, what are we rooting for?

[25:46] Lena: Oh my god. You haven't had um not gonna teach your boyfriend how to dance with you on round two, right?

[25:55] Ian: Well, I even I just thought this morning I was like, what if we're lucky enough to be the one?

[25:59] Lena: I don't know.

[26:00] Ian: When uh when the Adele mashup was on, this episode was already scheduled, and I heard it come over my earphones and was like, darn it.

[26:11] Lena: Damn, you missed that one.

[26:13] Ian: So I want that for you, Lena.

[26:15] Lena: Yeah.

[26:16] Ian: She's safely in round three, so maybe a round three episode.

[26:20] Lena: Yeah, maybe we'll come back. I'll put her through to the round four.

[26:24] Ian: Um, I'm gonna say this out loud, and of course, when I say it out loud, then it doesn't come true. But I was I was watching um Maybe This Time the like Kristen Chenowith like live version. I forget like where she is, maybe it's like at her own concert or something, but love that girl so much.

[26:44] Lena: I watched Cabaret the movie for the first time last night.

[26:47] Ian: Oh, what'd you think?

[26:49] Lena: I thought it was good. Um it's very I first of all have never seen Cabaret in any form, but I've like listened to it, I've read the plot and everything, and the movie is so different than the stage version that I was like, I don't know what's happening.

[27:01] Ian: But I watched Liza Minelli's Academy Award-winning performance singing Maybe This Time, and the whole time I was like, K-Chen really ate her up with this song.

[27:14] Lena: I love that we're saying like we're gonna be a little bit more than a duet.

[27:17] Ian: It was a duet for the record.

[27:19] Lena: It was a duet, but one person in that duet really stands out, and we don't have to pretend like that's not the truth.

[27:25] Ian: I think that Kristen Chenowith gives the definitive performance of Maybe This Time.

[27:29] Lena: I'm so serious.

[27:30] Ian: Yeah.

[27:31] Lena: She's amazing.

[27:33] Ian: The way she looks up into, you know, like above center, I don't know what that's called.

[27:39] Lena: There is this like look of hope and desperation in her eyes that is so incredible.

[27:45] Ian: She's amazing.

[27:46] Lena: She's so talented.

[27:47] Ian: Yeah.

[27:49] Lena: Great.

[27:49] Ian: I saw it with Michelle Williams in.

[27:51] Lena: Saw it with Michelle Williams in 2014.

[27:54] Ian: And I can't tell you anything about her Maybe This Time.

[27:57] Lena: So that's a problem.

[27:59] Ian: That's a that's a problem.

[28:01] Lena: Sorry, Michelle Williams.

[28:03] Ian: Sorry, Michelle Williams.

[28:04] Lena: I'm not gonna say which one though.

[28:05] Ian: I mean, Google's free. You know which one it was.

[28:07] Lena: Um okay, so first song of the episode.

[28:11] Ian: I'm scared.

[28:12] Lena: I'm really scared.

[28:13] Ian: I'm sweating.

[28:14] Lena: Ooh.

[28:15] Ian: You I don't think that you should be scared.

[28:18] Lena: I want a hard one.

[28:20] Ian: I know, I know. But I feel like I always want to clash with the titans.

[28:23] Lena: We've reached a point with the Glacket in the last few episodes where it's like, I think I need a breather, personally.

[28:30] Ian: I'm like, this is not fun anymore.

[28:32] Lena: Um okay.

[28:34] Ian: So here we go.

[28:35] Lena: Oh, people ever mean to you, Andrew.

[28:38] Andrew: Other than it's like all in jest.

[28:41] Ian: Yeah.

[28:42] Lena: I think.

[28:42] Andrew: Do people ever send you a weekly critique? Where they're like, they don't even say, like, hey Andrew, how are you? I hope that okay, so um audio medium, we're looking at Jarlie next to the locker. Um, and if memory serves, I think that this is from both of your least favorite episode of the series.

[29:05] Ian: Oh no, is this shooting star song?

[29:07] Andrew: It is a shooting star, yes.

[29:10] Lena: Oh no, I'm scared.

[29:21] ♪ Musical number: "More Than Words" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[31:04] Ian: I can't believe that's in shooting star.

[31:07] Lena: That's so I have a hard time talking a lot about shooting star because if the whole episode is such a misfire, Glee does a lot of other episodes that like I don't like, but are like fun to critique and talk about.

[31:23] Andrew: Yeah.

[31:24] Lena: Shooting star is such a misfire and such a touchy and uncomfortable topic that I'm always like, oh, let's just pretend it didn't happen.

[31:31] Ian: Yeah.

[31:32] Lena: That being said, it is crazy that in this one episode we have this like cartoony goofy ha haha moment where Brittany's not actually singing to Sam, she's singing to Lord Tubbington.

[31:46] Ian: How funny.

[31:47] Lena: And not 20 minutes later, that same character is like hysterically crying, hiding in a bathroom stall as she sees.

[31:54] Ian: For your consideration by Morris.

[31:56] Lena: Yeah.

[31:57] Ian: Yes. It's that episode is insane in the worst way.

[32:02] Lena: It is crazy. I feel like because every time that you've talked about shooting star in my head, I don't do these messages to you when I listen.

[32:12] Ian: Usually I would love that.

[32:18] Lena: I feel like at least like when I watched Shooting Star Live, I thought it was like this is dramatic. Because I love a dramatically episode.

[32:28] Ian: And they are acting, Capital A acting in that episode.

[32:32] Lena: Really, like literally everybody.

[32:34] Ian: Everybody for your consideration.

[32:39] Lena: Because like it's like the 45-minute episode itself, I don't have too many problems with. However, it's like it's the episodes that follow that like they're literally like, well, we did the school shooting episode and now we are done.

[32:54] Ian: Yeah.

[32:54] Lena: Yes.

[32:55] Ian: That's the problem.

[32:56] Lena: Yeah.

[32:56] Ian: Yeah.

[32:57] Lena: Glee does that a lot where it's like, oh, here's this social issue. Let's use it for clout and ratings.

[33:02] Ian: And I feel like possibly the most egregious example.

[33:09] Lena: Oh, totally.

[33:10] Ian: Is oh, there's a big epidemic of shootings in this country. So we'll talk, say everything we need to say in 45 minutes, and then everything is normal the next day.

[33:19] Lena: Yeah.

[33:20] Ian: It's so it feels so gross to me.

[33:23] Lena: How do you feel about the song though?

[33:28] Ian: It's like it's a fine. I love this song as a song. They sound good on it. The reveal that she's singing to Lord Tubbington is like funny, specifically specifically the other characters realizing she's singing to Lord Tubington and having that moment of wait, what's going on? Where is she walking to? That is funny. I'm not gonna write home about it though.

[33:51] Lena: Yeah.

[33:52] Ian: Go ahead, Lena.

[33:53] Lena: No, I really enjoyed this song. And I don't know, as a certified cat girl, I well I think that as a certified cat lover, I really that joke is funny to me. It just and I don't know, watching it out of context. I feel like I can have a little more fun. So that was fun. But it just, you know, this episode's not my favorite, but I do enjoy this song.

[34:16] Ian: I like this a lot more than I thought that I would. I think that like more than words, like she's singing down. I Lena, I know that she's Heather Morris is your enemy.

[34:26] Lena: However, she That's true.

[34:28] Ian: That's true. She was singing down. And I think that like it's one of those songs where it's like when you when you look at the lyrics, how beautiful.

[34:37] Lena: So beautiful.

[34:38] Ian: And they sound so good together. Whenever they sing it together, I'm like, awww, cuties.

[34:43] Lena: No, I will I will disagree with you there because I'm like, I this is the only time that Bram gets a pass.

[34:49] Ian: Oh, really?

[34:51] Lena: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[34:51] Ian: Oh yeah.

[34:51] Lena: Like you don't think they sound good together, or you like just don't think they're cute together.

[34:55] Ian: Oh, well, I'm just like, this is the only time that like because I'm oh I I just thought I have so many problems watching this relationship live.

[35:02] Lena: Oh no, totally.

[35:03] Ian: That I was like, Do you want to sound good together though? The audio, the audio medium. I mean, like, what else do we have? Like we have like something stupid. And we've got pretty dumb at Maya Uba.

[35:14] Lena: Yeah.

[35:15] Ian: I love that song. I was watching Black at Round. I was looking at Black at Round 1 and I was sad it didn't make it to round two, but hey.

[35:21] Lena: Lost to um a boy like that who recently also passed.

[35:27] Ian: That's the right decision in my opinion.

[35:29] Lena: Yeah. I I do like that song. What do you what do you not like about Bram? Is it just because Britannna they broke up Ratanna?

[35:36] Ian: It's where I was. It's where I was in the moment. And it was just like making me like viscerally mad and I had no outlet. You know where I was just like okay.

[35:47] Lena: Well and it's also like it's the thing of like okay they kiss very on early on into their relationship. We needed to wait a very long time for the Britannicus. They got a duet very early on we needed like we were like they got like three duets this season whereas like Britannna has four by series end, you know.

[36:07] Ian: Um no it was just it just yeah that made me mad.

[36:11] Lena: I hear that.

[36:12] Ian: But I guess I'm I'm alone in this opinion. No one else is mad.

[36:17] Lena: I don't hate Bram personally and I would probably feel different if Bram ended up together. I don't think I would like them if they ended up together. But one Britney being the only bisexual will like canonically bisexual character in the show I do appreciate that we get a significant love interest of the male and female variety throughout the show's run.

[36:38] Ian: Yeah.

[36:38] Lena: Um and they do make Sam a little less intelligent than he was in earlier seasons in season four.

[36:49] Ian: For sure. I mean, you've talked about like the flanderization.

[36:52] Lena: Yes.

[36:53] Ian: Right? He gets major flanderized in season four.

[36:56] Lena: But um, oh, one of my big issues with Glee is the mentality of like your first love is your only love, and they're the only one that matters. And I think one of the reasons that I'm cool with Britannna ending up together is that they found their way back to each other. It wasn't like they fell in love when they were 15, and then nothing ever happened. Like they went their separate ways, they ended things, they had different partners, they grew as people and then found their way back to each other.

[37:31] Ian: And I much prefer that storyline to Clayne, who just like got together, and I guess like Kurt kind of dated Adam's apples, but was openly in love with Blaine the entire time.

[37:45] Lena: Yeah.

[37:45] Ian: But like in season four, Brittany is fully like, yes, Santana's still special to her, but she's like fully invested in Sam. And in season five, for exactly two episodes, Santana is fully invested in Danny, which then when they get back together, it makes it to me, yeah.

[38:02] Lena: I don't know, feel special instead of eye rolly. But I feel like I'm obviously coming from the perspective of watching it as a 17-year-old, especially like the queer angle where it's like I need this to happen. Jesus Christ, please.

[38:21] Ian: Um especially when you compare it like number by number, like that's very frustrating that like Britannna only gets four, like that's crazy. They're like the keystone of this television show. That's nuts.

[38:34] Lena: Uh-huh.

[38:35] Ian: And talking in the Britanna fans' face about it too, where they're like there are people online that really like our relationship. And I'm like, even in this universe, why the fuck are you saying that? That's so crazy.

[38:48] Lena: The relationship that these writers had with the audience is so crazy and toxic on both ends.

[38:55] Ian: Yeah.

[38:56] Lena: Like they really needed to take a break from each other. Because the writers, the way that they would one take immediate inspiration from what fans said online and put it in the show. And then two, when they didn't do what the fans wanted, would just like flip them the bird through dialogue against the TV show. Be like, that's right, losers. We know you want this and we're not gonna do it.

[39:18] Ian: Well to be to be fair, like devil's advocate if there needs to be a devil's advocate here. There was like the um like it wasn't it it was a Britanna fan that like threatened with Ryan Murphy, like had a knife.

[39:33] Lena: Yeah, I too would maybe slip in a little jab if that happened to me.

[39:39] Ian: Keep your distance, yeah.

[39:41] Lena: Yeah.

[39:42] Ian: Um, okay, more than words, what would it take to keep her around?

[39:47] Lena: Are we feeling uh good about her?

[39:51] Ian: I don't want to keep her around because I just want something more exciting than that to show up.

[39:56] Lena: Sure.

[39:56] Ian: Okay, but I also want a spirited debate, so maybe I want another song on that level so we can debate about it.

[40:02] Lena: Yeah, I like that.

[40:09] Ian: Okay. I feel like maybe on the same level.

[40:13] Lena: Um, last time that you were here, you got Raise Your Glass season two.

[40:19] Ian: Is this season five?

[40:22] Lena: Which we already actually we already talked about with you on our on cast right we're gonna lose our minds tonight Well it's good I love when it's all too much five a M to the radio up where's the rockin' woman Party Crash and he snatcher Call me up if you are gangster Don't be fancy just get dancing Why so soon so razor blessed if you are wrong in all the right ways on my underdogs we will never be never be anything but loud and baby greedy freaks Won't you come in and come in and raise your glass Just come on and come on and raise your glass Won't you come in and come on and raise your glass Just come on and come in and raise your glass Oh no my glass is empty too cool and you treat it like a fool treated like a fool can choose to let it go choose to let you know it's on our own so raise so razor glass on my underdog and getting green freaks won't you Oh no!

[40:22] Ian: My glass is empty. That's we don't even get the burp at the end.

[42:41] Lena: The burp that's in the back in the iTunes release, it's great.

[42:45] Ian: That's a I think our first carousel edition, maybe?

[42:48] Lena: The bird.

[42:49] Ian: Oh yes, please. It's iconic. Um who wants to start us on this one?

[42:55] Ian: I have a lot of thoughts about this one.

[42:58] Ian: Go ahead. I went on a bit of an emotional journey watching that. Moments would happen, and I would go, oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's really nice. And then it would show Lea Michele and she was trying so hard to be flirty and sexy. And I would go, girl, give it up. Give it up. Give it like a few. She is flirty and sexy. She's gonna be. Exactly. She is so good. You're already a sexy woman. Just have a good time. Like you're so aware the camera's on you right now. Please. Oh my gosh. Um, shout out to April wearing a garter in a sundress. I've never noticed that before. I'm gonna be so real with you. Well, I don't know what a garter is. It's like a little bit when you like go to a wedding and they like the groom goes underneath the bride's dress and pulls out the like elastic thing that has around her leg.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lena, do you know? I I'm asking you because I don't think I do. Do you know what the purp like the actual purpose of a garter is? Yeah, it looks like it's a big thing. Is it like to hold up tights? Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. But like people just wear tights with butts now. So I don't think April was wearing stockings in that number once you've got it all. She just had that garter up for fun. Also, I'd never noticed this before. Blaine does the little like, so raise your hide, pop back out behind Mr. Shoe that he does in the OG. That was very cute. An homage, yeah. An homage. I like the unholy trinity uh callback to say little prayer moments. They're getting us ready for toxic, yeah.

Yes, they say, wait in a couple numbers. We're about to blow this thing out of the water. It's like, don't forget these three are friends. Don't forget because every time that these three girls are in a room after they graduate, they need to do something, all three of them together. Yeah. Even though they've never spoken. The writers want to go, remember one of the hallmarks of this show is how these three girls were such good friends and they were always singing together. Don't check the tapes. That's what it was like. Please don't look. Also, my last observation. These are less thoughts and more just things I noticed. Um, Ryder is so that kid who practiced doing the worm in his room for hours.

Uh-huh. So that he could do it at parties, and now does it any moment. Yeah. Any chance he gets, whether or not it's appropriate. Because the moment in this song he decides to pull out the worm is probably the last moment that it would make sense for. He's like, I gotta get this in. Literally doing a history presentation does the worm. It's like, I just have to do it. Well, I worked so hard on this. You know what you're doing. It's all I have. It's all I have. I got catfished. The girl I like's dating my best friend. Just let me have the worm. Oh, literally, if we're talking about being catfished, we're talking about Unique. The every time it steals focus every single time. Ryder grinding up on Unique and then.

And I'm like, oh my deep. It's it's insult to injury because it's like obviously season five starts, and Ryder's in the damn choir room. But then it's just like, and it's like, oh, you're grinding up on that same person that you do we want to check the tapes on that one. Oh no. The writers were like, the unholy trinity we're such friends, and Unique and Ryder have no unresolved drama. I don't know. Yeah, but I don't have any beef. What do you? I don't know. End of season four, Ryder's last line was, I love you guys so much, I can't wait to stay in this club through nationals. I remember that. That's what he says. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. Uh Lena, what are you thinking about this number?

[46:36] Lena: Honestly, this number is fun. And that's the beginning and end of my thoughts of it. Like it like made me happy to see, but I agree with Ian, like watching Rachel Berry twerk. I'm like, what on earth is happening? Oh yeah, yeah. I think that I like this a lot. I think only because I like seeing people on the screen. Yeah, oh my gosh, totally. But I think that the thing that I get mad about is that it's like another one of those instances of like, you mean to tell me all of these people are in this room, and the best you can do is raise your glass again. A song that they didn't even perform. No, literally, yeah. Available Rhodes definitely wouldn't have known that the Warblers sang it. Yeah, Blaine calls it out in the episode.

No, because she does, and she's like, Oh, I was always a fan of you boys in uniforms. Honk. And she squeezes his nose. And I'm like, okay. Oh. No. You just wanted to burp at this at the end of the song. Yeah. I see right through you. Kristen Chenoweth just came in and she said, Ryan, I've got a really funny idea if we do Raise Your Glass, so I need you to put it in the episode. Ryan, I discovered that I can burp on command. I want to make history, and that's what this is. I can burp on command. Did you just hear those six burps? Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Kristen Chenoweth, you are dead. You are dead in this town. You are not special. My glass is empty. That sucks. That's the worst one. It's the worst one I've done.

Wait, how do you uh the way that I have to I have to swallow the air and then spit it back in? Right. Okay, okay. Lena, I you definitely had the most impressive one. Yours is very good. Oh, I practice for years. Like how Ryder's. No, it's my worm. It is my worm. At the end of a history presentation, you're like, I freaking know how to burp. Seriously. It's bad. And like I can do it so well that sometimes it like rattles something in me, and I'm like, oh no, am I gonna be sick? Yeah. I remember when I first discovered that I can do it, and then I just did it like consistently for like that entire week, and it was just disgusting in hindsight. Yeah, no, it's it's a party trick, it's impressive.

It's a party trick. Lena, say my glass is empty, that sucks, and then burp into the microphone, please. Okay. My glass is empty. That sucks. That is so good. Ew, that's so good. Very good. That's really, really great. That's really impressive. Genuinely. It was very impressive. Oh my god. Thank you so much. On your special skills, because I'm not kidding, it should be. Hell no, it is not. It should be. It doesn't feel good in my body. No, yeah, I agree. It doesn't feel good. It also like. I like have to do it in the case. I know that people are gonna be listening to this. People are there are some people. Wait, Ian's frozen. Oh, wait, no, he's back. Is he back? It was me. It was me, but I'm back.

I am back. Okay. There are some people that are going to be really grossed out by this entire session. Oh, yeah. And I'm really excited. What are you talking about? It's Kristen and Shelly's fault. She's the one who did it in the booth. I know she did it. She did it. She did it first. We're just following her example. Um, so we're at the point where we need to vote between two songs, I think. Yeah. Unless anybody has anything further to say. I mean, I will say that I liked this number a lot more than I remembered. Yeah. I agree with you, Andrew, that it's really fun to see all of them together in the room. Just like to see the newbies and the oldies all just having a party having a good time.

Yeah. It sucks that April Rhodes comes back. It sucks that April Rhodes' glass is empty. And it sucks that she comes back after not seeing her since season two. And this is the last song she gets in the entire series. And it's this. Oh yeah, because Total Eclipse of the Heart is got axed. Totally Eclipse got axed. And she's got so many incredible numbers in this TV show. Not the least of which is maybe this time. That's probably the best one. Or maybe home. I don't know. But it's anybody's game. This is definitely better than I remember, but I would say for me, like bottom three April songs and the two that are lower than it are the original songs from the Crossroads musical. Ooh, not too much on them.

You're not a big fan of. I'm so glad I slept with you. No, no, no. Nice. No, don't do that. Nice to meet you. Did I have slept with you? You're right, you're right, you're right. It's no, it's really good. You gotta listen back to the tapes. It's it's really iconic. Okay. Okay. Maybe I'm misjudging it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that this might actually be. Is this one the worst? And that is, I want to point out April Rhodes' worst is still good. I don't think this number is like terrible. Oh my gosh. No. Um, but like when you're Kristen Chenoweth, the bar is so high that like this ain't clearing it for me. Yeah. This might be the worst. And that's fine. And that's okay. Yeah. This is better than some characters' bests.

Oh, I mean, like, we're even talking around one less spell to answer. No one even named that girl yet. Wait, that might be her best one. You're so good. No, it's definitely my favorite. Oh my god. Oh my god. Going to sleep Anthem. Yeah. What? They're going to sleep Anthem. Do we want to move on to the voting part? Sure. Sure. I'll do the first one because I feel like recently I found myself in a tiebreaker position, and I don't like that anymore. Okay. Uh I'm gonna do I'm gonna do More Than Words. Okay. Um, Alina, do you want to go next or do you want me to go next? You go next. Okay. I'm voting Raise Your Glass, which is hilarious because when season two Raise Your Glass was on, I voted against it.

And I do think that season two's Raise Your Glass is better than this one. But it's just the nature of the songs they were up against. Yeah. You don't gotta tell me. Gosh. Do you want to talk through your thoughts right now? Yeah, here are my thoughts. Uh I don't know that I love either of these numbers. So I'm like, which one do I like better? I'm not sure. I think I'm gonna go. I don't know. It I do think Raise Your Glass does like watching it makes me very happy. But I do think I'm gonna go More Than Words. Okay. Alright. I don't think that she's last and in round three, but yeah. Living to see another day nonetheless. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Is Pink out of round three? Pink? Yeah. No, because Raise Your Glass, I was so mad, did come back after that episode that it was split out.

Like, this is the one that you guys want back. We cannot be doing this, you guys. Can't vote uninvited this next time. Use your vote for something that matters. Your vote matters. Wasn't that against um Never Can Say Goodbye too? Was it that same block? No, no, no. Okay. Alright. No. Yeah. Uh Never Can Say Goodbye and Raise Your Glass are both safe. Oh. Never Can Say Goodbye did come back. Yes. Yeah. Sure. Okay, well. Are you cool wait? But that wasn't even part of your grievances. No, I guess you were you were happy with the songbird of it all. Because Songbird should win, but I was like, oh, Never Can Say Goodbye would have won against like 90% of the songs in round two, but it had to go against Songbird.

Yeah. I think that round three is a little bit round three is uh I'm gonna have heart palpitations throughout most of it. Oh my gosh. It's gonna be so scary. And More Than Words is gonna clear it and get to round four. I'm calling it now. Round five. It's gonna have a great setup. Yeah. Alright. Um competition number two. How do we feel about that? Was that kind of what you wanted? I mean, that was fun because it wasn't a consensus, and I do like that. And it was both like I like I it's always less exciting to me when there's such a clear winner that everyone's like, we're just talking to talk at this point. We all know what's gonna win. We know what's happening, yeah. So even though neither of those songs, spoiler alert, are gonna win the Glacket, it was still nice to have a discussion.

No, I agree. And I like that. I like that about us. Um, oh I have another song. Hip Hok Show Glee. Oh my gosh! And we get in a fight for this one. I hope it destroys our relationship. We're peddling the like mid category, I feel. Like I I like it, but I'm like, we'll see. I every time I say that, people are so fucking mad because then they're like, you mean to tell me that this is the song you were talking about? Um, okay, here we go. We're looking at my favorite song. Do we know what it is? No. No. We're looking at Artie and Rory looking at each other, and they're mad. Is this when they're trying to win over Sugar? Yes. Do you know? It's season three Valentine's. Oh, what do they say? I literally don't remember.

Is it L-O-V-E? It's love. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'm so smart. Oh, they're not even the one singing. That's right. You look. Oh my angels. Oh my god, I'm gonna have a freak out. V is very, very extraordinary. A is even more than anyone that you adore and love is all that I can give to you. Love is more than just a game for two. Two in love can make it. Take my heart, and please don't break it. Love was made for me and you it's for the way you look and me.

[58:26] ♪ Musical number: "L-O-V-E" — performed by Tina and Mike ♪

[58:26] Ian: Alright, I'm recording my audio again.

[58:26] Lena: Oh my god, that was crazy.

[58:26] Andrew: Whoa!

[58:26] Ian: Wait, are you still okay? So you're still using that microphone?

[58:26] Lena: Yeah.

[58:26] Ian: Yes. And I'm going to send you two separate audio files now because that one fully okay. So for those of you playing at home, we were watching "L-O-V-E," and then suddenly it lagged just a little. And I was like, how interesting that it's lagging. It's probably my internet. And then could you hear this over the microphone? Because you kept saying you're hearing a scary sound. My computer started making noises as if it was shooting a BB gun at me.

[58:46] Lena: I heard a scary sound.

[58:49] Andrew: Yeah.

[58:49] Lena: It was scary. I was wondering what that was.

[58:52] Ian: Scary. And my audio just stopped recording and it kept firing BB guns at me. And then it took like five minutes for me to save the recording just for safety and sign out of Zoom. I texted you and said, I'm gonna sign out and sign on on my phone, and then I clicked sign out, and it would have the whole like leave meeting, and I would click leave meeting and it would disappear, and I was still in the meeting. So then I click sign out and then it'd say leave meeting, and I click and I was still in the meeting.

[59:21] Lena: You can't leave.

[59:24] Ian: And I could still, you were both moving clearly. I could hear everything you were saying over the BB gun, but I could not say anything, and I couldn't get my sound to record.

[59:34] Andrew: Yeah.

[59:35] Ian: I gotta get rid of that damn thing.

[59:36] Lena: Yeah.

[59:37] Ian: It was actually Andrew and his opponent. I should not be bringing this BB gun to recordings. Do you think that that experience is going to forever change the way that you saw the performance?

[59:54] Andrew: "L-O-V-E" is not for me, baby.

[59:57] Ian: I uh PTSD.

[59:59] Lena: Oh slam poetry.

[1:00:02] Ian: Oh I don't know if you're being for real. Are you being for real?

[1:00:05] Andrew: I'm absolutely not being for real. I actually was so charmed by that song. It was far better than I remembered it.

[1:00:11] Lena: Okay.

[1:00:11] Ian: It's really cute.

[1:00:13] Andrew: Yeah, I really loved it. Seriously. It like set my my rom-com heart ablaze. I really enjoyed that.

[1:00:19] Lena: Yeah, it was gorgeous. Honestly, like I don't I don't give a fuck about the the Artie a Rory, even though Sugar's involved in the plot line for once. I'm just like, I think one thing that I've recently realized about this song. I've turned a new leaf with this song, if you could imagine, is that um this performance, Tina and Mike, it recently pissed me off that they're doing it in front of no one.

[1:00:49] Ian: Yes, which I'm okay. So like there was like two states of mind that I'm like, I'm mad that like not like the entire cast wasn't there to watch these two people that never sing do a cute duet like this. But then I'm like, okay, is this kind of like the universe like the glee universe telling us like Tina and Mike are doing duets all the time, but you always sing, yeah. You would never know because they're doing them just for themselves.

[1:01:19] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:01:19] Ian: They don't care about the fame. They just want to be together.

[1:01:23] Lena: They just want to sing a song.

[1:01:24] Ian: But lose music as a form of devotion to one another in that performance. Here's what you missed on Glee.

[1:01:33] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:01:34] Ian: So much.

[1:01:37] Lena: Um, so I feel like really conflicted about it. I think it's really cute. I think that both Tina and Mike duets, this and "Sing" from Chorus Line, I think they're like perfect. I love them so much, and I think that they fit so well for the characters.

[1:01:52] Andrew: Are there only two Mike and Tina duets in this whole show?

[1:01:56] Lena: Is heroin. And that that's this is the final one.

[1:01:59] Ian: Yeah.

[1:02:00] Lena: I feel sick to my stomach about it.

[1:02:02] Ian: Sorry. Sorry you had to find out this way.

[1:02:05] Lena: Oh my gosh. Sorry. Look at me. It's gonna be okay.

[1:02:11] Ian: No. It's not.

[1:02:15] Andrew: Um yeah, but I also are are we like kind of done on the day? I feel like there is a a level of are how are you feeling on the discourse of love?

[1:02:26] Lena: Oh, I got discourse on love.

[1:02:27] Ian: Oh, okay, okay. Um, I actually think the I agree that it's like a bummer that Tina and Mike are not in front of ever anyone singing this song. But I for what on Glee I don't love songs uh because the song's called Love. I don't love songs that are just like there to sell another track on iTunes. I always prefer when they are doing some sort of storytelling. So I think this is a really great kind of like two birds with one stone. Where we get a beautiful Mike and Tina duet and also the progression of the story like the B plot of the episode, which is the sugar arty and roy stuff. And this storyline is actually my favorite Roy storyline in the entire show. I think it's the most interesting he ever is when he's going after sugar.

[1:03:15] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:03:16] Lena: Exactly. Out of the hundreds of Rory storylines. I don't know how you could even decide between all of them.

[1:03:22] Ian: Yeah.

[1:03:22] Lena: He's always either A missing Ireland or B in love with Sugar slash Brittany.

[1:03:28] Ian: That's it. But I think that this plot line is pretty fun. Uh specifically because I just really like sugar and her kind of just being thrilled that these two boys are spending money on her and not really caring which one wins, just like appreciating the fact that they're appreciating her, is very fun to me.

[1:03:48] Andrew: So it's what she deserves.

[1:03:50] Lena: I love that.

[1:03:50] Ian: Me too. I also I love a montage. And a a montage with romance elements and hearts. Sign me the fuck up. I love this. I really love this song.

[1:04:04] Andrew: I have this episode.

[1:04:05] Ian: Yeah, go ahead.

[1:04:06] Andrew: I have some bad news. Um, when my computer shot off the BB gun, for some reason the battery dropped about 40%. It is actively plugged in, but now the battery number just keeps dipping, and we're currently at one percent.

[1:04:22] Lena: Jesus Christ.

[1:04:27] Ian: But I do have an iPad, and I think my microphone can plug into my iPad. So maybe I'll just record onto my iPad, but we are gonna need to pause for a second again. That's sorry.

[1:04:38] Andrew: It's okay.

[1:04:38] Lena: That's for the best.

[1:04:39] Ian: I'm so sorry. I'm gonna stop recording now because I want to make sure I get the sound file saved before my computer shuts off.

[1:04:44] Andrew: Okay. So everyone, uh bathroom break.

[1:04:48] Ian: Alright, um I'm now recording again for the third time on the third device. Someone does not is trying to silence me. They don't want me talking about "L-O-V-E."

[1:04:58] Lena: Someone out there doesn't want it, it's Andrew McGuire.

[1:05:01] Ian: Yeah. Does not want me talking about this song.

[1:05:04] Andrew: Holy cow. That was a ride. Uh I don't even know where we were.

[1:05:11] Lena: Um wait, actually, I do have something to say.

[1:05:14] Ian: Yes.

[1:05:17] Lena: I love this episode. I love "Heart" so much because I feel like it uses it utilizes so many characters. And like they don't need to be doing like they don't need to be doing like so much, but at least like most of the characters in this episode have at least something to do.

[1:05:35] Ian: Yes.

[1:05:36] Lena: Like, even like Tina and Mike have this moment where they're singing a duet. Like they have the this like very rare Rory plot with sugar. Like, it's I think it's a good use of like all of I'm trying to think like who doesn't do anything in this episode. Like, I don't think that like Sue is in this episode, but it's like she doesn't need to be. Um but like, yeah, like Rachel and Finn have like the Rachel Dad plot. Like I feel like everybody, like Sam Sadies. Who am I missing here?

[1:06:10] Ian: Ever because Quinn's got the God Squad stuff.

[1:06:12] Lena: Quinn's got God Squad, Britannas got first kiss.

[1:06:16] Ian: Yeah.

[1:06:18] Lena: Um, yeah.

[1:06:20] Ian: Is Clay doing anything? Is Puck doing anything?

[1:06:22] Lena: Oh, Kurt is like, oh, the there's the Kurt Kurofsky scene at breadsticks at the end.

[1:06:27] Ian: You're right with the bear with the and Claim comes back from the dead at the end of the episode.

[1:06:32] Lena: That's right, he's got the eyepatch.

[1:06:34] Ian: Oh my gosh.

[1:06:35] Lena: He said, You guys, I just made my Broadway debut. It was crazy.

[1:06:39] Ian: Hey guys.

[1:06:41] Lena: Yeah. So I just like this episode really has a special place in my heart. Oops. Um that I'm just like, I like it. It reminds me of like almost like duets where it's like another episode that we get a teen in Mike duet. You know?

[1:06:54] Ian: Yes.

[1:06:55] Lena: Which I that's some of my favorite stuff that Glee did. Like I said, I hate a a song just to sell a song, but I love episodes like this where there is a plot reason to include everyone, and they include everyone. And everyone gets a little uh spotlighty moment. That's some of my favorite stuff that Glee ever does.

[1:07:16] Ian: Yeah.

[1:07:17] Lena: It I like this show when it does that.

[1:07:19] Andrew: Oh me too. So any final notes on love?

[1:07:25] Ian: Generally? It was fun. It tried to kill me twice.

[1:07:29] Lena: Yeah.

[1:07:30] Ian: But you can't keep a bad bitch down.

[1:07:32] Lena: You really can't.

[1:07:34] Ian: And I've always said that.

[1:07:36] Lena: In regards to love. Um yeah. Um. Ooh. This is fun, another fun competition. Hey, do you guys like fun competitions?

[1:07:50] Ian: No.

[1:07:52] Lena: Um. Okay. Let me get it. Do we want hints while I'm getting it up?

[1:07:59] Ian: No, I would like to see a pause at the beginning to see if I can guess what it is.

[1:08:03] Lena: Okay.

[1:08:04] Ian: And I won't be able to.

[1:08:05] Lena: I know. I don't think that you will. Um, Puck in Sue's office?

[1:08:11] Ian: No, I have no idea.

[1:08:13] Lena: No.

[1:08:14] Ian: Is he playing the guitar in choir room, that's so embarrassing. I saw the trophy behind him. Do we have a anyway?

[1:08:24] Lena: I know what boys like.

[1:08:26] Ian: No.

[1:08:27] Lena: Oh.

[1:08:29] Ian: I have no idea.

[1:08:30] Lena: Yeah, I don't it's fine. It's "Go Your Own Way."

[1:10:32] Ian: Okay, these are both songs that ended up being I like remember liking them, but were far more enjoyable than I gave them credit for. This could be a knockout drag out fight for me. I have no idea.

[1:10:47] Lena: Yeah, it really can be.

[1:10:48] Andrew: Yeah, I don't know either. I you may have noticed that I was on my phone during most of that performance. And um, did you?

[1:10:55] Ian: No, it's okay.

[1:10:57] Lena: Um I haven't looked at you once this entire recording. I've just been looking at myself.

[1:11:01] Ian: I was looking at my favorite fluffy haired Quinn from the city.

[1:11:04] Lena: Okay, great. I'm I'm just like well, everyone was probably looking at me during that entire performance. Um, because I was like really desperately trying to find my entire list of Rolos from July 24th, 2022. Of course. And to see where "Go Your Own Way" ranked. And "Go Your Own Way" is that coming in up number 15. Above well, "Uninvited" is 16, actually. And I think that I would say "Uninvited" should be at least because 14 is "Take a Bow."

[1:11:39] Ian: And I'm like, uh take about does mean a lot to me. So I think I j I would just switch those two personally. So that's all I gotta say. Um, I will say about this number, Liam Michelle sounds great. She always sounds great. I don't think I would ever stream this number, like just like in my headphones, whereas Uninvited, I actively do. So that's why Uninvited is I like uninvited more. But watching this number, one, Diana Agron is acting, acting, acting. She is so over it. It's hilarious. Yeah, it's great. Two, I love when Rachel is a messy drama queen. And I also love the shout out to Stevie Nicks by having her just sing this song directly at Finn, not a care in the world that there is a full audience in front of them, just shamelessly staring him down as she sings this to him. It's hilarious. It's great. I don't this Rolo doesn't like do too much for me, though. I there's something about it that I'm like, do we need it? Right?

[1:12:44] Lena: I agree that I don't, it wasn't needed. Like, how many songs is Rachel gonna sing about how she is in love with Finn and sh she's not with her at that moment? How many songs is she gonna sing about how she didn't get into Niata?

[1:13:02] Ian: Yeah. But I do appreciate that in the um Fleet Woodmack episode, although it is fully a different song, they are having a reference to that iconic performance of Silver Spring. I think about her every day, actually. It's amazing. Um for me, I'm just like, there are other songs. I think that especially at this point in the series, that there are other songs that I really just like far more enjoy, like Rolos especially like should I think that it's like in the literal next episode, like Jar of Hearts. I'm like, oh my god, totally. Love her so much. You know? And like this one just felt this one felt like what you were saying earlier, Ian, about like we gotta, we gotta we gotta do something for the iTunes iTunes is at my door right now yeah yeah and it's like it's fleetwood Mac we have to but go your own way in the episode right yeah yeah so I like the setup of this so much like I like watching everyone like dance along I love Quinn looking like she's having a brat summer now I love watching Quinn she's not a brat she is but also like on my genuinely this is one of my favorite Quinn looks I literally have a picture of her from this moment like on my phone just because she's so beautiful um and like the band I think this is very fun the setup of this number is very fun I agree though I don't think it's in a top 10 role a top 10 role of mine by far.

[1:14:30] Lena: Yeah like I feel yeah go ahead is L O V E like a equivalent of a top 10 role for y'all I don't know I really felt fun I had so much fun watching it.

[1:14:42] Ian: It's not this isn't against like drop you know right I think I mean I also just need to quickly say that every time that we pull a song from this episode it is like a checklist item that someone needs to um bring up the fashion of this episode so thank you Lena for being that person um this this episode really fashion of glee well that that was probably the fashion of glee that tumbler.com had had more visitors this the uh the day this episode aired than ever before um but yeah, I don't know. I think that where, and this is maybe revealing my vote already, but like with love at least, I'm like, okay, I really stand by like the fact that it's like it's the involvement of like ancillary characters that usually like don't have like a moment that it's like you're still main cast build, and yet why are why are the songs so few and far between?

[1:15:41] Lena: Yeah.

[1:15:42] Ian: So that's where I feel. Whereas like go your own way, if it was like my man, obviously, like it's my man.

[1:15:48] Lena: Yeah.

[1:15:48] Ian: But like, go your own way. I'm like, I don't know. I'm never streaming her. To be fully transparent, I am gonna vote for L O V E. I just felt like Go Your Own Way is better than we were giving it credit for.

[1:16:03] Lena: Oh, it's definitely great. It's funny awesome. And I love when Glee is messy when these kids are just so dramatic with each other. I also, this is one of those numbers to me where I think about who I was in high school and how awesome it would be to have this kind of outlet to scream in the face of my unrequited crush with the full band of Fleetwood Mac song.

[1:16:30] Ian: Oh my god, that probably feels so good. Holy moly. Well, I think that like the thing, maybe to me, what's like leaving the bad taste in my mouth is like the second that this performance is over, everything is like quickly resolved. Where it's like, no, actually Sam's homeless. Actually, Quinn isn't like with Sam. Like it's just like, okay, so we just we got we needed to wait through that. It was bunch of rumors.

[1:17:01] Lena: Oh god. Boo.

[1:17:04] Ian: Um, so I'm like, I don't know. We could we could have got there quicker. You know?

[1:17:10] Lena: Yeah.

[1:17:11] Ian: But the but the core of this song is not Quinn's cheating on you. It's you're dating Quinn and you should be dating me. I'm sorry I slept with Puck.

[1:17:24] Lena: Sure.

[1:17:25] Ian: Or not slept with Puck, Kiss Puck. Um, but like that, and that does not get resolved until funeral. So I appreciate that. It's her, she's you know, trying to use the Quinn stuff as leverage, but the core of the issue is break up with your girlfriend, get back with me.

[1:17:44] Lena: Yeah, yeah. Because I'm bored.

[1:17:46] Ian: Right.

[1:17:46] Lena: Yeah, break up with your boy, your girlfriend because I'm bored.

[1:17:46] Ian: Girlfriend because I'm bored.

[1:17:50] Lena: Yeah. I don't know. I feel like such a hater about this song. Sorry.

[1:17:53] Ian: No, but I agree with you. L O V E is like the only time in the entire show that Rory is used well. One of the only times in the entire show that Sugar is used well. It's one of two Tina and Mike duets. It's really charming. It's really fun. It's storytelling. It's also highlighting characters we don't see very well. I like it a lot.

[1:18:16] Lena: Yeah. I do too. Also, I just need to bring up the fact that when Ashley Fink was on, and that's what we really missed. I will always remember where I was in my kitchen when I was listening to her um just being like, oh yeah, me and Kurt were supposed to sing secondhand news in this episode. Do you do you recall this little tidbit of information?

[1:18:43] Ian: And I was just like, wait, what? Like, we were supposed to get a Lauren and Kurt duet in this episode.

[1:18:51] Lena: I love that.

[1:18:52] Ian: That like just never happened. I don't I think maybe she said that she recorded it. I don't maybe they didn't film it, but I'm that's I I love it. And the writer's saying about it. A second Lauren song or the a 100th Rachel song. We gotta put the 100th Rachel song in there. I'm like, come on, it's our hundredth one. Come on.

[1:19:20] Lena: That way ho.

[1:19:21] Ian: Say way ho. Um wait, so Ian and I are both voting for for love against hate.

[1:19:29] Lena: Yes, love wins.

[1:19:31] Ian: Love love.

[1:19:32] Lena: Yeah, love wins.

[1:19:33] Ian: Oh wait, that's it. I'm writing the joke for you, babe.

[1:19:37] Lena: Um, wait, so Lena, do you want to do a pity vote? What are you thinking?

[1:19:43] Lena: Oh no. I'm no way. I'm not doing a pity vote at all. God bless you, Lena. No way. I love love. Every time that I bring up that there are people that are upset about the pity votes, I'm not talking, I'm just talking about one person.

[1:19:56] Ian: And it's Ian.

[1:19:57] Lena: I hate it.

[1:19:58] Ian: Vote your heart.

[1:20:01] Lena: Oh, just for that, literally learning that. I'm gonna I'm gonna do a pity vote. Not for this one. We'll see how I feel for the next one.

[1:20:08] Ian: Well, I hope the next one is you're the tiebreaker, so you can't do a pity vote. You have to actually vote your conscience.

[1:20:15] Lena: I think that we're owed at least like one like a cry. Like a one uh like um tear streaming down my face, you know.

[1:20:24] Ian: Oh totally. I need that. Let's see what we got. Ooh, it might be it's looking good. Please oh, please oh please I kinda spoke it into please, oh please oh, please, oh please, oh please, oh please.

[1:20:36] Lena: I'm ca I'm really scared for her.

[1:20:38] Ian: This is this is like uh everyone knows. I think that it like I feel confident in saying that it's like in almost everybody's like top ten it's really great when we find ten is this when we do paradise is it about to happen no it's not it's not par it's not quite paradise you're you're going to know what it is you're going to give me that frame give me that frame you'll I hope that you'll agree with the top ten sentiment Oh my god it feels like special this is crazy Oh it's mythic criminal okay I'm so sorry to whatever song is next now I'm scared now I'm scared what's gonna be next I'm really scooped oh my god as he came into the window it was a sound of a preshindo he came into her apartment he left the bloodstains on the carpet she ran underneath the table he could see she wasn't able so she ran into the bedroom she was struck down it was her room and you are you okay so any are you okay are you okay Annie Annie are you okay so any are you okay okay Annie Danny are you okay so any are you okay are you okay and are you okay so any are you okay are you okay and you okay would you tell us that you're okay there's a sign in the window that he struck you Annie on the carpet and then you ran into the bedroom you were struck down here and you okay so Annie, are you okay?

[1:20:41] Ian: Are you okay, Annie?

[1:20:41] Lena: Annie, are you okay?

[1:20:41] Ian: So Annie, are you okay?

[1:22:20] Lena: Oh my god.

[1:22:22] Ian: They are gonna have the craziest.

[1:22:24] Lena: Are you okay, Annie?

[1:22:25] Ian: You've been hit by you've been shot by small crazy.

[1:22:38] Lena: Adam now you're okay.

[1:22:46] Ian: This is Ad in the window.

[1:22:55] Lena: It was your doing.

[1:23:00] Ian: This is sad.

[1:23:06] Lena: On the carpet.

[1:23:10] Ian: It was your dream, Annie.

[1:23:11] Lena: You've been hit by You've been shut back.

[1:23:13] Ian: A smooth criminal.

[1:23:19] Lena: Oh my god, it's not enough. I need it injected in my face.

[1:23:23] Ian: I have to say that, like, I think that was like probably the most like visceral reaction. Like Ian, it looks like he's about to cry.

[1:23:33] Ian: Oh no, I really have tears in my eyes. That was a lot for me. I also feel very special. Thank you, Glacket, for having us.

[1:23:40] Lena: I already say thank you, Glacky.

[1:23:42] Ian: Thank you, Glacket. Thank you for choosing us today.

[1:23:45] Lena: Oh my god.

[1:23:47] Ian: Oh.

[1:23:48] Lena: I really felt like pushed into this this wall behind me. That was really intense.

[1:23:52] Ian: Yeah.

[1:23:53] Lena: It's wild.

[1:23:56] Ian: Who who can even start the Discord?

[1:23:59] Lena: Certainly not me.

[1:24:02] Ian: Santana did all of that with a recorder tape to her underboob.

[1:24:07] Lena: Underboob. I know.

[1:24:08] Ian: Yeah, it's important to note.

[1:24:09] Lena: That's crazy.

[1:24:12] Ian: This is like peak glee to me. Uh like a beloved song people know, people love, done in this really cool, innovative, awesome way that like is so awesome for the plot.

[1:24:28] Lena: Like, it is just, oh my god, this song is seriously.

[1:24:31] Ian: Oh my god, my headphone is seriously everything to me.

[1:24:34] Lena: Yeah.

[1:24:34] Ian: And is also a little stupid.

[1:24:38] Lena: The idea is the stupid aspect of we're having a turf war, so to settle it, we're gonna have a sing-off with these two dudes playing cellos is such a dumb idea.

[1:24:51] Ian: And them one taking it so seriously and also like doing an amazing job.

[1:24:56] Lena: Yeah.

[1:24:56] Ian: The best.

[1:24:58] Lena: Wait, I just I guess I never realized until this very moment. Why were there cellos there to begin with if the warblers are in the capella?

[1:25:08] Ian: Wait a second. They were already in their rehearsing, and Santana and Barry Allen walked in, and they're like, sorry, we have the space for another hour.

[1:25:17] Lena: So that was the only way they could stay in the room is if they incorporated the cellos.

[1:25:21] Ian: Um, I have another like this is kind of like an annoying like analytics question posing to the both of you. Because like I feel like the the Whitney Houston tribute episode, I kind of live by this belief that someone culminated this idea for like an epic cover of How Will I Know? And they were like, okay, we have to do a Whitney Houston episode. And I think like this is just my brain. I have nothing to support this. That I'm like, okay, we need to do an entire episode around this, and this is the song that we build it around.

[1:25:55] Ian: That I'm like, is this the this is the crux of the Michael episode? I mean, this is definitely the number. That yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I guess Whitney Houston, that that episode also has some bangers. But like Michael also has never can say goodbye, which is I think this song is on a different level, but it's also a like phenomenal performance that is a hallmark of Glee. It's also got Ben. Let's forget it's got Ben. That's a joke. Wait, where do you where do you land on the Ben?

[1:26:27] Lena: I land on the Ben that it's so dumb that it was ever in this show, and it's a song about a rat that kills people, and I can't believe they sing it to Blaine to make him feel better.

[1:26:36] Ian: You're saying all that, but I still don't know if you don't like it or not.

[1:26:41] Lena: Um, and neither do I. Because I like it for all the reasons that Yuri just said.

[1:26:47] Ian: Fair. My roommate Ben on his birthday. I texted him that. And I said, You're Blaine, I'm Rachel, and then I assigned our other three roommates as the other characters to the scene. Uh um, where do we go from here in the discourse?

[1:27:08] Ian: Um You talk about Ben, I love it. You know how I feel about you, Ben. Ben's listening right now, and the two of us need look no more.

[1:27:17] Lena: Yeah. Well, I just think it's like so there's something so and I'm being serious right now. There's something so haunting, beautifully haunting about Glee's rendition of it.

[1:27:29] Ian: Specifically, Leah Michelle's.

[1:27:31] Lena: About Ben?

[1:27:32] Ian: About Ben. The way that the way that she's singing it, it's singing it being the song. Sing it it. Um it's like so spooky-ookie to me that I'm like, this I love. It is kind of one of my favorite genres of songs where it's like either I love a song with a beautiful, like a happy melody and some like spooky lyrics, or a song with a very heartfelt lyrics that has a melody that's like there's a little something's going on here. I think that the There's like something just dissonant enough about the way that melody goes that you're like, whoa. I I know that I'm talking to people right now in a kind of like insulting manner, but I think that the Ben haters need to grow up. I think that like they're they are looking at it through such a like skewed lens, they figured out that the song's about a rat, and they are holding on to that.

[1:28:32] Lena: You are talking literally to me.

[1:28:36] Ian: Okay, great. Are you insulted?

[1:28:38] Lena: No, because I kind of are changing my opinion on that scene. I'm gonna be so honest. I think it's so stupid because like obviously I've said in the past that like a stupid song on Glee does earn more points to me. That if it's like so purposefully stupid, which I think Ben is.

[1:28:57] Ian: Yes.

[1:28:58] Lena: But it's it. Um yeah.

[1:29:01] Ian: Which is why we watch the tape. Crush deserves to be in round three.

[1:29:07] Lena: Oh, wait, that's something that you wanted to bring up. I wrote I wrote uh bullet points on my computer that is now shut off because it had a meltdown.

[1:29:17] Ian: Yeah, yeah. The BB guns.

[1:29:20] Lena: The BB guns. Oh, wait, what did you want to do?

[1:29:22] Ian: Oh, so you're going to be able to do it. Let's see what I can.

[1:29:24] Lena: No, I'll see what I can remember. Um, Crush is in round three, which I respect, which is why I didn't list it as a grievance. But I feel like there's this attitude of like Crush made it to round three for the gag of it all. Because wouldn't it be so funny to have the shortest song on Glee make it to round three? And my point of view is no, it earned its spot. And I'm not gonna pretend that like Crush is a top to number on Glee. If it went up against like most of the songs we've covered on this episode, it would have lost. But up against Felice Navidad and up against whatever that boring ass Finchel duet is from this exact episode. I just can't sell on you.

[1:30:00] Ian: Yeah. Yes. Crush is a better like Crush is not iconic because it's 17 seconds. That is part of why it's iconic. But it is so funny. That entire scene is hysterical. One, the way that Will is making Rachel sit in the back of the car instead of in the front. Yeah, when she when she asks why, he says for your safety, and she gets all flattered and goes, You care about my safety? And he goes, Um, no, not really.

[1:30:30] Lena: No. No, you're right. You're absolutely right. Sorry, Andrew, continue.

[1:30:37] Ian: No, no, I'm glad that you bring this up. Continue. Um, her idea that like one that she has a shot with this married man who is her teacher. A, that's just a funny thing. And then two, that she's like, Oh, it's kind of awkward in this car at home. I know how I'll win him over. I shouldn't have to be a good one. I have a pre-burned karaoke version of Crush on a CD in my pocket that I'm carrying on my person. I'll have him pop this in. I'm gonna give him a little show. And then the fact that her lips do not start moving with the I see you blowing me a kiss, her lips start moving at ah crush suggests her sitting in the back of the seat, staring at the back of Will's neck, going, ah, crush is so hysterically funny.

[1:31:34] Lena: I think that you're not gonna be able to do that. I'm upset. It's a great number. And I feel bad for kind of pushing this narrative that crush doesn't deserve to be in round three. Because I think for all the reasons that you just listed, I mean, just like the Felice Navidad and I just can't stop him you alone. Yeah, like you you have it you have a great setup, but also on top of that you're you're just great. Like the her reaching up to put the CD just it's great.

[1:32:05] Ian: It's very and also this is like a non sequitur, but like I always thought it was so weird that just from a Spotify iTunes point of view, that it says crush, Glee Cast version by Glee Cast cover of Jennifer Page, that it specifically says that they didn't want people to think it was David Archuleta.

[1:32:24] Lena: Oh come on, you're that's that's okay. You were the one that wrote that.

[1:32:35] Ian: Yeah. That was in 2009, that was the crush people cared about.

[1:32:39] Lena: Yeah. Sorry, Jennifer Page.

[1:32:41] Ian: Jennifer Page. I have you ever heard Crush Out in the Wild?

[1:32:44] Lena: No, I've literally only ever heard it on Glee.

[1:32:47] Ian: Have I heard Crush by David Archuleta out of Archuleta all the book? All the time. As recently of like, I'm sure, like as recently as his most recent Instagram post because people comment the lyrics to that song in his Instagram every day. Me included.

[1:33:03] Lena: Yeah. He's he's big time cute. I do love him so much. He's in a renaissance right now. Good for him.

[1:33:09] Ian: Um we've been we've been skirting around a little bit of the Oh my gosh.

[1:33:19] Lena: That's okay. No, it's okay. I'm I'm glad that we have a crush discourse. I'm always glad to have a crush discourse. But um what I feel like, okay. So my question, I suppose, is what would it take for Smooth Criminal to be taken down right now?

[1:33:35] Ian: Wow. Literally, it would have to be Paradise, and even then I wouldn't be confident that I would vote for Paradise. Like it would have to be Adele would win, but Adele's not an option. Yeah. Like there are maybe like three or four songs that could beat this, and I'm not saying they would beat it for me, just that they have a shot at beating it.

[1:33:56] Lena: Yeah. I think it's somebody to love season one.

[1:34:00] Ian: Yeah.

[1:34:01] Lena: Valerie season two, is that already through?

[1:34:04] Ian: No.

[1:34:08] Lena: Valerie Season two, that would be whoa.

[1:34:11] Ian: Yeah. That would be a hard call for me. I think that the you just spoke it into existence, so I think we're safe.

[1:34:19] Lena: Okay, good. Not to mention my baby.

[1:34:23] Ian: Not gonna teach your boyfriend.

[1:34:24] Lena: No. Don't do that.

[1:34:27] Ian: I am actually I'm full of dread. Yeah, that will be a really hard one. Genuinely, it'll be a really hard one. I was at a friend's apartment last week, and they just they recently found out that I do this. I talk about Glee in a recorded fashion and then I release it to public. And um, they were like, oh, I really like this particular glee song, and it was I'm not gonna teach your boyfriend how to dance with you. It's like just like even like the smallest little glee fans, the smallest little gleeks out there, they love it, they know it.

[1:34:57] Ian: Yeah, and for good reason. I think that is the to me, I would uh it would be a tough choice for me, but that one would win, but it would be it would be rough. But I don't know what's I don't know what's gonna flash.

[1:35:11] Lena: That's true. Do we are we ready for it? Do we have any further comments to make about Smooth Criminal before we find out it's fate?

[1:35:18] Ian: Lena mentioned it during the during the song. Why do they have such palpable sexual chemistry in this song? They're ready to jump each other's bones, and they're both capital G gay. I don't know if you've seen this show. Spoiler alert, they're capital G gay in this show, capital yeah opposite of the Kenzie scale.

[1:35:38] Lena: Yeah, there's one thing I know about Sebastian and Santana, both my people.

[1:35:45] Ian: Yeah, um they are friends of Dorothy up in there, friends of Dorothy. Um and also hate to be like this, but I've mentioned it before. Grand Cousin lives in my neighborhood. Without fail, every time I see that man, I'm like, I think immediately of this. And I'm like, this It's the best thing he's done. I'm sorry, the flash. I'm sorry, water for elephants, water for elephants. In his memoriam, the first line of his uh, you know, it's like smooth criminal singer.

[1:36:18] Lena: Yes, yes, absolutely. Someone's got a case with a gay face, and it's not gay.

[1:36:30] Ian: I could talk about the gay face forever. Because like I I feel like I have the gay.

[1:36:35] Lena: Ian, you really don't have the gay face.

[1:36:37] Ian: I have the gay voice though.

[1:36:39] Lena: Don't we all?

[1:36:43] Ian: The gay face to me makes no genetic sense. And that has nothing to do with anything, but I'm just like, how are gay people born with a gay face? I don't get it. Anyway. It was it was it's evolutionary to help them be identified by the other gays.

[1:37:01] Lena: Yeah, before Grindr existed.

[1:37:04] Ian: Well, yeah, it was dangerous times. It's dangerous times. Um scared. Speaking of gay face, we have one final song in the glacket.

[1:37:13] Lena: Oh.

[1:37:13] Ian: This episode.

[1:37:17] Lena: Okay.

[1:37:20] Ian: Okay.

[1:37:22] Lena: What does this mean?

[1:37:23] Ian: It's a fun competition. I'll say that.

[1:37:25] Lena: You pointed at me, so I feel like it's gonna be one of the ones that we said.

[1:37:28] Ian: Uh we're on a zoom. I'm not pointing at anyone.

[1:37:33] Lena: As in me and Lena. You don't know what side I'm sitting on on his zone.

[1:37:38] Ian: Who am I pointing at?

[1:37:40] Lena: Yourself.

[1:37:42] Ian: I was pointing at the camera directly.

[1:37:44] Lena: Oh.

[1:37:45] Ian: Don't do that. Since I'm on my phone, the whole screen is whoever is currently talking. I there's no way for me to look at you both at the same time. Actually, there is if I just scroll. Here you are.

[1:37:52] Lena: Here we go.

[1:37:56] Ian: You will not be able to tell.

[1:37:58] Lena: We're looking at hands on a piano.

[1:38:01] Ian: Do we want to take a single stab in the dark?

[1:38:04] Lena: Are those Brad's hands?

[1:38:05] Ian: It's not.

[1:38:07] Lena: Well, it's not Brad's hands, so I guess that that's a good thing.

[1:38:09] Ian: I'm gonna say that the jacket doesn't look like something Brad would wear.

[1:38:13] Lena: Yeah.

[1:38:13] Ian: But they're certainly not sorry if it is certainly not a teen character's hands.

[1:38:18] Lena: That's so mean.

[1:38:19] Ian: We're kind of like.

[1:38:20] Lena: Oh no, am I gonna be wrong?

[1:38:22] Ian: That's so people with old hands right now are like, oh no.

[1:38:29] Lena: Um it's imagine.

[1:38:31] Ian: It's what's his face?

[1:38:33] Lena: It's Michael.

[1:38:34] Ian: Oh god, what's his name?

[1:38:35] Lena: Michael Hitchcock.

[1:38:36] Ian: Michael Hitchcock!

[1:38:37] Lena: Okay, keep that in.

[1:38:38] Ian: He's got eight and hands.

[1:38:40] Lena: Oh, he's never gonna cut it.

[1:39:15] ♪ Musical number: "Imagine" — performed by Glee Cast ♪

[1:40:06] Ian: But I'm not the only one.

[1:40:11] Ian: I hope someday you join us one.

[1:40:24] Ian: Imagine more possession.

[1:40:30] Ian: I wonder if you can need for green of brotherhood.

[1:40:49] Ian: Imagine all the people sharing all the world you may stay, but I'm not the only one.

[1:41:14] Ian: I hope today you join us.

[1:41:31] Ian: Yes.

[1:41:31] Ian: Yeah.

[1:41:32] Ian: Um I almost cried.

[1:41:34] Ian: That really did get me very good.

[1:41:37] Ian: And like to be real for a second, and I'm I feel like I'm speaking to people, get it.

[1:41:43] Ian: I always love talking to y'all because you get it.

[1:41:46] Ian: And sometimes I have you on, and I'm like, this sucks talking about Glee week after week.

[1:41:52] Ian: And it's like there are some days that I'm like, I really don't want to.

[1:41:52] Ian: That I'm like, I feel especially like doing it by myself now that it's like I feel stuck to it, but it's like watching a performance like that reminds me of like how much this show I want to cry, this show meant to me, and how much I needed it in 2009, 2010, and um it was just like it just beautiful this was one of those moments.

[1:42:24] Ian: This episode and in "Wheels," like those were two episodes to me that was like there's something so special here, and um yeah, I I I don't know, it's corny, but to quote like I like when Lauren Potter was on months ago, one of the things, and I just like I didn't even realize that she said it until I was editing, and I like broke down in tears like while listening to it because I was like so in the moment while in the conversation that like it's just the things that gosh, now I'm gonna butcher this quote that the things that make us similar are stronger than the forces that seek to divide us, and I think that this is so evident here with it's stupid, two fucking Glee clubs, and and I'm just like I it just um I don't know, I love it so damn bad, and like honestly, this morning I'm like I think that like there are days that I wake up and I'm like last thing I wanna do when talking about Glee is like decide which songs are better because like some days it's not fun and so I'm like um I don't know I'm like very happy to talk about it right now and that would that was one of those mornings this morning that I'm like I may be in a weird mood and I don't want to be but I I feel good talking with friends about the hit fuck show Glee because this show this performance being uh you know vessel for that uh is a you know it's an important show that I like talking about because it's good so that's what I have to say going off what you were saying.

[1:42:24] Lena: Oh I knew that was gonna happen both of us were waiting you go Lena no I was gonna say thank you so much for um I genuinely thank you for saying that Andrew I feel like it's sometimes such an interesting experience to look at like take this show that meant so much to me as a child and then like pick it apart sometimes like that's really it's a weird weird thing and I think sometimes it's like I forget that it used to be a thing I mean it's still a thing I enjoy but it used to be a thing that meant so much to me because I've like overanalyzed it to death and it's like such a hard experience that I think we kind of all understand.

[1:44:58] Lena: So thank you for for saying that because I mean it it makes me also feel so bad like you know talking about Glee sometimes is like it shouldn't be you know I don't know this is also the first time um I was really new nervous to come on just because it's the first time we've talked about Glee since we took our break and it you know watching this number it like you know in watching all these numbers it's so nice to talk about Glee in this way but also like it reminds me that you know Glee is something that means so much to so many people and like it's something to be shared and I think about this episode and I don't know I just I love it and I'm I'm really glad to be here and oh my god so yeah thank you for sharing that yeah it's it's such a weird experience that it's like sometimes I feel like silly for even voicing it out loud that it's like I'm so thankful for like anybody that gives like two fucks about a Glacket.

[1:46:07] Lena: Oh my god where it's like who am I to be like wake up and I'm like I don't want to do this so yeah no it but it like it means so much so yeah I mean I think about like you know those the Glee club this episode and them like being so pumped to like stick it to this other team and be so awesome yeah and then them realizing what Glee is for and then like me realizing what me loving this show is for that it's like something to be happy and to share and music is transcendent and amazing and Glee is transcendent and amazing and yeah I love that.

[1:46:47] Ian: And so that like I've like talked to like my it's so like annoying, like the amount of times that like the show is like brought up in my therapy sessions.

[1:46:55] Ian: But I'm like, there's so much like there's so much like trauma that like happened around this time that like while I was watching it, that like in hindsight, I can be like, okay, I was part of cross-country and track for all four years of high school, and I did not, and like looking back, it's like I was watching it, and the camaraderie that was happening in this show between a team was like not found in like my own day-to-day life, and it's like that could be more of a reason why it like meant so much that it was like okay, if these like people aren't sticking up for me in my own life, then it's like okay, at least I have this outlet where it's like this could be um a reality.

[1:47:43] Ian: So yeah, Ian.

[1:47:43] Ian: I want I want to hear from you.

[1:47:47] Ian: Um I just am like the person who doesn't know how to express feelings or communicate them.

[1:47:56] Ian: So I really appreciate everything that both of you have said.

[1:47:59] Ian: Regarding talking about Glee, I have noticed um just when you're running a podcast, there's nothing more I mean, there are more frustrating things, but like I've listened to podcasts where people just like don't really say anything, and you're like, what's the point of listening to this?

[1:48:17] Ian: Yeah, and so I always get so in my head about like make sure you have an opinion and you have stuff to say, and frankly, it is easier to critique something than it is to praise it.

[1:48:28] Ian: Like when it when you praise something, I run into the problem where I'm like, I really love this, and then it's kind of like, and that's all I have to say about it.

[1:48:37] Ian: Yeah, and so I really appreciate this moment that we are all taking instigated by you, Andrew, because I have noticed one that doing the podcast, although I love Glee and it's a joy to talk about it.

[1:48:52] Ian: I sometimes will listen back as I'm editing episodes, and I'm so overly critical about it.

[1:48:58] Ian: And it truly comes out of a place of worrying that it's going to be a boring episode to listen to.

[1:49:04] Ian: And so, like, I have to like crap on it.

[1:49:07] Ian: And watching this number, I'm actually really glad we got this number because watching this number, I'm fairly certain I say this on our episode in "Hierography."

[1:49:17] Ian: That my memory of this of this number was that like I didn't like it because to me it felt like the Glee kids were watching this performance and they just made it about themselves and they started singing.

[1:49:28] Ian: And then during the number, like, yes, the Glee kids are watching the number and they do start singing, but it this time did not feel like them making it about themselves because they come in and they are actively like learning the sign along with the other choir.

[1:49:44] Ian: Yeah, it is not them making it about themselves, it is both the choirs becoming one choir and like sharing the experience and sharing the lyrics and the sign all together.

[1:49:55] Ian: And that's like when the number started.

[1:49:58] Ian: I even said on the mic, I was like, I'm glad we got this because I got a lot to say about it.

[1:50:01] Ian: And then literally during the number, I was like, Oh, I don't feel the same way at all that I did.

[1:50:06] Ian: Yeah, yeah.

[1:50:07] Ian: So I don't know what I'm gonna say about it.

[1:50:09] Ian: I think there are so many things like from the early seasons that I mean, I can't even imagine how many things like to revisit, we would feel so differently.

[1:50:22] Ian: Because I remember that as well.

[1:50:23] Ian: Yeah, and I mean, I totally like this is a moment that is shared, and this is a moment of like, you know, like celebrating.

[1:50:32] Ian: I don't know, like, uh, yeah.

[1:50:33] Ian: Oh my gosh.

[1:50:35] Ian: We're older and wiser.

[1:50:36] Ian: What can we say?

[1:50:37] Ian: I don't know.

[1:50:37] Ian: Come on.

[1:50:38] Ian: We talked about this episode in 2020, you guys.

[1:50:40] Ian: A lot of changes.

[1:50:42] Ian: Listen, I mean, the last time we saw this, this song on the Glack, it was episode four of Gleek of the Week Pod.

[1:50:48] Ian: And I'm sure with McKinley Abraham from Glee Project Season One.

[1:50:53] Ian: Uh huh.

[1:50:53] Ian: Um, and I'm sure that like the discourse surrounding.

[1:50:57] Ian: I think that was the first episode of this podcast I ever listened to.

[1:51:00] Lena: Oh, shout out.

[1:51:02] Ian: I mean, I love McKinley down bad, but I'm sure that the conversation surrounding it was like the very easy things to say about this.

[1:51:11] Ian: You know, like I can like specifically like refer to like the fact that I did bring up like the fact that I was peeved that the iTunes release is not including the deaf choir at all, and instead just being entirely a New Directions number, which I'm like, that kind of defeats the point.

[1:51:30] Ian: But it's like if that's the discussion, then it's like I don't know.

[1:51:35] Ian: I really am enjoying our um discussion of this song now, three years later.

[1:51:43] Ian: So and uh one of my favorite things that Glee does is when it takes uh really big feelings and ideas and tells them through really small means.

[1:51:57] Ian: Like the whole concept of the show is it is life or death, it is everything in the entire world to us.

[1:52:05] Ian: It is our whole identity, it is high school show choir in a small town.

[1:52:10] Ian: Like that's what the show is built on, and it does it.

[1:52:13] Ian: Some of my favorite comedic moments in Glee are when they are based in that, like blowing up really small things and making them really big.

[1:52:21] Ian: But also the poignant stuff that lands the hardest for me is stuff that is small scale, but that doesn't mean like small scale in like the grand grand scheme of the universe, but that doesn't mean that the feelings and the effect are also small scale.

[1:52:36] Ian: And you brought it up, Andrew, when you're talking about this, you were like, it's silly.

[1:52:41] Ian: It's literally just like these two show choirs singing together.

[1:52:45] Ian: Yeah.

[1:52:45] Ian: And yet it is so powerful and touching, and you see the effect that they have on each other.

[1:52:49] Ian: And I love when Glee does that.

[1:52:52] Ian: When it shows it's not like, oh, the New Directions win the global championship and they learn this grand lesson through that.

[1:53:01] Ian: It's like the New Directions meet their competition for the sectionals competition coming up in their small town.

[1:53:10] Ian: Yeah.

[1:53:10] Ian: And they like have a moment of understanding and realize that they've gotten too big for their britches.

[1:53:16] Ian: After they just did a mashup of "Hair" and "Crazy in Love."

[1:53:22] Ian: But I feel like that like adds like so much like bonus points to this performance that it's like you can go from that to this.

[1:53:29] Ian: And I think that like even like circling back to our first song of the episode, like "Shooting Star," where it's like they're doing this episode because it's like and it's it just feels like inauthentic.

[1:53:38] Ian: Whereas like this episode, to like have a spotlight on anything, um, that it just like it felt like so much more grounded in reality.

[1:53:47] Ian: Like it it it like they you could tell that like they actually like gave a fuck, you know.

[1:53:52] Ian: Yeah, like but yeah, it like it in these like shoehorned like topic of the week sort of thing like I yeah it's like "Shooting Star" is immense stakes it is about something that is so huge and important in the world which is why I think Glee kind of fumbles the bag with it so I don't want to like take it to that point of "Shooting Star" but just to say hey as they went on they didn't they weren't as graceful with these bigger topics I don't even I wouldn't even I don't even know if like you would say what's covered in "Hierography" is like even like a big topic to begin with but it was like actually like hey like we have the opportunity to like shine a spotlight on like this and here we go so well it's also just a greater concept of they have forgotten the reason they love Glee Club and the reason they love the arts and it's turned into we this is really important to us because it's gonna make us winners.

[1:55:03] Ian: Yeah, and then they have this moment of no, the reason we wanted to join this club was not to be winners; it was to have a sense of community and look at this greater sense of community that this other club is bringing us right now.

[1:55:18] Lena: Yeah, I'm afraid about like I thought going into this competition that I was like, I feel pretty confident.

[1:55:32] Ian: Like, not to bring it back to like I hate doing the Glacket sometimes, but also this is kind of fucked. So I still feel confident in how I'm going to be able to do that.

[1:55:44] Lena: I feel confident as well.

[1:55:47] Ian: Okay. I mean, like, do we want to do that now, or do we want to say anything further?

[1:55:53] Lena: I mean, I'd love to chat. If anyone has something to chat about.

[1:55:57] Ian: I mean, I just I had a carousel edition that I don't even think is so it's even appropriate to even bring up at this point. I'm just thinking about the Millie Bobby Brown singing Imagine and then when she better believe you better believe the second that line came up, that was the first thing I think about her like every day, I swear.

[1:56:20] Lena: Uh, but that's gonna be slight that's gonna be slide three on the maybe even I'm gonna say it maybe even slide one. It could be Millie on Top.

[1:56:32] Ian: Millie on top. Maybe that's title of episode. Um, there was some there was something that you said.

[1:56:41] Lena: Oh no, thank you, Glacket. I think I like thank you, Glacket. I remember um anything else, any conversation point to bring up.

[1:56:53] Ian: I mean, I just have conversation points justifying my vote, but that's the vote. So yeah.

[1:56:59] Lena: We can do that.

[1:57:01] Ian: Let's vote.

[1:57:02] Lena: Okay.

[1:57:04] Ian: Um, I stand by everything we said just then, and I think that Imagine is a really special moment in the show. But like, it's up against Smooth Criminal. Like, I don't know.

[1:57:15] Lena: I'm voting for Smooth Criminal for sure, and I'm really glad we had that discussion about Imagine, and I think Imagine is a really great moment in this show.

[1:57:26] Ian: Smooth Criminal, I feel like they represent kind of the opposite ends of what makes Glee great. That Imagine does the more sentimental finding your community section of Glee, and Smooth Criminal is kind of silly, kind of campy, larger than life, very impressive, very fun and exciting.

[1:57:52] Lena: But I think Smooth Criminal is like the iconic Glee duet. You know, like it is the one that I mean, there's many, many, many, but it's one of the top ones that people talk about.

[1:58:06] Ian: And when people specifically talk about like Glee making a song their own, Smooth Criminal always comes up in the conversation. It is so definitive. They like really took a personal spin on this Michael Jackson hit.

[1:58:23] Lena: Yeah. Uh, they made it, in my opinion, better than the Michael Jackson version. It's phenomenal. I'm really glad we said everything we did, but my vote cannot go any other way.

[1:58:35] Ian: Lena, are you echoing?

[1:58:38] Lena: I am. I am. I think this is hard, but also I can't imagine not letting.

[1:58:49] Ian: Hey.

[1:58:49] Lena: Hey.

[1:58:50] Ian: Oh, imagine.

[1:58:51] Lena: Oh my god, hey.

[1:58:53] Ian: Who said that?

[1:58:54] Lena: Um, I just, you know. Smooth Criminal has to go on.

[1:58:59] Ian: Like it.

[1:59:01] Lena: I think this was honestly a good one because I had two pretty visceral reactions to both of these. One in a physical, like dance ants in the pants way. Like I like had, like, you know.

[1:59:14] Ian: And one like really touched my heartstrings. So honestly, this was a tough one, but genuinely it has to go too.

[1:59:21] Lena: So to me. It's interesting because like the more we like talked about Imagine, the more I thought about like how people don't talk about Imagine. Right?

[1:59:30] Ian: Yeah.

[1:59:30] Lena: Like no one's no one's talking about that. People are obviously talking about Smooth Criminal. But like, I don't know. We all three of us, big reaction to that song. So I'm like, what's going on, Gleek?

[1:59:44] Ian: What's going on? Why are we talking about it? Why are we not talking about it?

[1:59:48] Lena: I think it low-key kind of a forgotten episode of Glee. No one really ever talks about hierarchy.

[1:59:52] Ian: I don't remember that we liked it when we watched it.

[2:00:00] Lena: I don't think we did.

[2:00:01] Ian: I don't think we did. But this was so lovely. Home to Papa Don't Preach.

[2:00:06] Lena: Yes.

[2:00:08] Ian: Um, I think so. I remember really liking that like there was like one scene in that episode where it was like it was just like one one shot where they were like all like planning what they were gonna like she got permission. I forget what it like Quinn got permission to do something on like Saturday, you know.

[2:00:28] Lena: Do you remember this? Where she was like, I can babysit, and then like it was like all these like storylines.

[2:00:33] Ian: Oh, yeah, like a chain of events where they're all like lying to each other so that Quinn can be with Puck babysitting without Finn knowing.

[2:00:40] Lena: Yes.

[2:00:41] Ian: That's pain some way. I love I love that episode because that's when Kendra says to Terry about her sons, one hour with those three little demons, she'll have her tubes tied.

[2:00:53] Lena: I am obsessed with that. And that's still, and that's still like for me, not even the top 10 can Kendra lines. Like she is incredible.

[2:01:01] Ian: Puts out some bangers.

[2:01:04] Lena: Nothing but bangers.

[2:01:06] Ian: Yes, she does.

[2:01:08] Lena: Close on up their legs and walk on over to Dr.

[2:01:11] Ian: Dr.

[2:01:15] Lena: Um. I feel tempted, but I would only do this with your permission, and um, to do a pity vote.

[2:01:25] Ian: I feel like it's not a pity vote because you genuinely seemed undecided before we voted.

[2:01:29] Lena: Yeah.

[2:01:30] Ian: Thank you. So I do think you're autocorrecting that.

[2:01:33] Lena: Yeah. Well, because when I get frustrated about the pity votes, it feels like you knew what you wanted to vote for, and then you heard that it won. So you're like, I feel bad. But before we started talking, you were clearly on the fence and were like, I don't know, this is a lot harder than I thought. So I'll allow it.

[2:01:51] Ian: Okay. Because you know my truth better than I do.

[2:01:52] Lena: I do. I do, and I'm glad I'm glad you realized it. Um wow.

[2:02:02] Ian: I mean, we're two hours in.

[2:02:05] Lena: Oh, we don't even know how much we lost with the I was out for a while there.

[2:02:10] Ian: Um, so what do you have?

[2:02:12] Lena: But I have two hours.

[2:02:13] Ian: I was at 215.

[2:02:14] Lena: Yeah.

[2:02:15] Ian: Yeah. We still we gotta keep talking.

[2:02:19] Lena: Isn't there anything else to talk about? Hip Fox Glee?

[2:02:23] Ian: We can say which songs are having a brat summer and which ones aren't having a brat summer.

[2:02:28] Lena: What I actually wanted to talk about, a question you have discontinued. This is piggybacking off of what you were saying, Lena, which is why I fully interrupted you. I wanted to talk about if the Glee Club were having a brat summer, what are the storylines and who's can I'm singing what?

[2:02:41] Ian: Justin, just uh out of regard of doing things in order. Uh can I I'm gonna stop you right there. You can collect your thoughts, and um, I'm going to do a little recap of this episode.

[2:02:55] Lena: Um, more than words, we said more than words. We sang your praises, and um, you were going to round three.

[2:03:04] Ian: Uh raise your glass. Oh, come on. Raise your glass to the to the groom.

[2:03:10] Lena: To the groom. Uh uh to the um to raise your glass.

[2:03:20] Ian: Uh you're not you're not going to round three.

[2:03:22] Lena: Uh I mean one of you is.

[2:03:24] Ian: What? Wait. What?

[2:03:26] Lena: Raise your glass, take it to round three.

[2:03:27] Ian: What are you talking about?

[2:03:28] Lena: Wait, am I am I wrong?

[2:03:31] Ian: Am I doing a cry thing again?

[2:03:34] Lena: Wait, no, no, no, no. What was it?

[2:03:35] Ian: No, me and Lena voted for more than words.

[2:03:38] Lena: We did.

[2:03:39] Ian: You're so right. I just I just am convinced that my opinion is right, and someone I voted for should always go right.

[2:03:44] Lena: Right.

[2:03:44] Ian: Yeah. It's like, hey, Andrew, I think I know what you're saying right now.

[2:03:48] Lena: Andrew, you're wrong.

[2:03:49] Ian: I'm gonna explain your thoughts and feelings to you because I actually know what they're supposed to be.

[2:03:52] Lena: Hey, by the way, um raise your glass season five is going to round three. Check your notes. You're wrong.

[2:03:58] Ian: Razorglass, actually, I think don't rewind, but I think we all agreed it to go the round.

[2:04:02] Lena: Hey, Amelia, write that down.

[2:04:04] Ian: Umilia, put that in the glacket.

[2:04:06] Lena: Amelia, put that in the glacier.

[2:04:07] Ian: I am genuinely, I'm very sorry.

[2:04:10] Lena: No, it really, because uh sometimes those first competitions they escape me. So uh I'm glad that we had that conversation.

[2:04:17] Ian: Um Love.

[2:04:20] Lena: We L O V E U, baby girl, and you're going to round three.

[2:04:25] Ian: And go your own way to hell.

[2:04:28] Lena: Uh, because you are I am so good.

[2:04:32] Ian: I'm obsessed with this development that recently, instead of just saying that a song is like no longer with us, you explicitly say that it went to hell. I love it.

[2:04:41] Lena: Wait, I need I need to like uh bring attention to what I'm even like referring to, and this is the same thing, right back to the beginning of the episode where you explain a joke and it's no longer funny.

[2:04:50] Ian: Umnier.

[2:04:52] Lena: But um AD Bryant and Bowen Yang have this like they have like they did it twice where they're like they talk about trends and they're like, you can go to hell, bitch.

[2:05:02] Ian: Yeah.

[2:05:02] Lena: And yes, I think about that. Every time I go to the gym, I think about them saying, wiping down the equipment, go to hell, bitch.

[2:05:11] Ian: Wait, they're not no, wait. Actually, they're not even saying go to hell. They're saying go to bed.

[2:05:15] Lena: Go to bed, bitch.

[2:05:18] Ian: Go to bed, bitch.

[2:05:21] Lena: Uh wow.

[2:05:22] Ian: Go to hell is my thing. Go to bed is theirs.

[2:05:25] Lena: Um, okay, Smooth Criminal, you stole our hearts, and uh you're going to round three.

[2:05:32] Ian: Um Imagine. I feel so fucked saying this, but I can't even imagine a world where it goes to round three.

[2:05:41] Lena: I don't know why I said that. I'm sorry. I voted for it. So anyway.

[2:05:48] Ian: Were those those were good ones.

[2:05:50] Lena: Yeah, no, those are very good.

[2:05:51] Ian: Okay. Definitely.

[2:05:52] Lena: Thanks.

[2:05:53] Ian: Um you did get the first competition wrong. You said it incorrectly, but besides that, they were good.

[2:05:58] Lena: Yeah, you were you're such a raise your glass season five head that Oh, my favorite.

[2:06:02] Ian: Yeah.

[2:06:03] Ian: Um, so Ian, I understand that you have something that you want to share with the class.

[2:06:07] Ian: Yes, I would also like to once again, I just think that everything I say is important and correct. And so I'm always like, my idea first. I do also want to talk about Lena's idea of talking about what songs are having a brat summer but I I remember you stopped doing this but you used to ask what songs would be on Glee if it were airing now yeah and I I do want to talk about if Glee is doing a brat episode for the record I'd stopped doing it because the episodes were getting so long that I would feel so tired that I'm like I don't even have it in me to ask this question but well it would be so rude if I was fault is it that this episode is long who had to stop the episode to start recording again I didn't want to say it but I think it was you.

[2:06:14] Lena: Yeah okay go ahead I'm so sorry wait okay do you want me to pose the question I just wanted to posing the question I'm posing the question because I don't have really have a definitive plan Wait what I didn't even hear what you said I don't really have a definitive answers I just wanted to know what I'm saying why did you bring up the prompt because that's like what a prompt is for because you want to challenge Connor and Alice in a la mode for the longest yeah so should we keep in the entire portion of the podcast where your my your computer didn't work.

[2:07:30] Ian: Where you and Lena just like small talk as I desperately try and shut down my computer.

[2:07:35] Lena: Yeah sure sure Lena do you want to share something?

[2:07:40] Ian: About brat about anything about anything at this point no wait then let's do the brat prompt.

[2:07:52] Lena: Okay, great.

[2:07:54] Ian: Great.

[2:07:55] Lena: Okay.

[2:07:57] Ian: I only know what I think Birds.

[2:07:58] Lena: That sounded really bratty the way I said it. I didn't mean it.

[2:08:00] Ian: I was mostly trying to be funny.

[2:08:03] Lena: You're having a brat summer, so it's fair.

[2:08:05] Ian: Yes, um, I think it's really bratty.

[2:08:12] Lena: Who's having a brat summer?

[2:08:14] Ian: Abby Lee Miller.

[2:08:15] Lena: Abby Miller. She is. She's always a brat summer.

[2:08:18] Ian: I think I think about it all the time. Is Emma. And she's having this moment where she's like, I'm a tenured teacher, and this career is so important to me, but I might want a baby.

[2:08:29] Lena: I think about it all the time. Do I continue being a school counselor all the time? Or do I take a little break and have what is the name of their kid Danny?

[2:08:41] Ian: Or do I have Danny? Exactly.

[2:08:43] Lena: Um Dutch, I feel like is uh sugar.

[2:08:49] Ian: Okay.

[2:08:50] Lena: I like that.

[2:08:51] Ian: Yeah.

[2:08:52] Lena: It's sugar having her moment in the sun and being like, it's about time I get a solo, and I'm it's okay to say that you're jealous of me because I'm so talented and I'm such an amazing singer.

[2:09:01] Ian: I have a question for you.

[2:09:02] Lena: Yes.

[2:09:03] Ian: Is Von Dutch released on iTunes?

[2:09:07] Lena: Um, I think Von Dutch is a fantasy sequence so that Vanessa Lengies can actually sing well.

[2:09:13] Ian: Fun.

[2:09:14] Lena: And then they release it on.

[2:09:16] Ian: And then we do like a fun, we do like a fun.

[2:09:19] Lena: She sings it in the class and we go into her head and it's like a music video.

[2:09:23] Ian: It's really great, and she sounds amazing.

[2:09:24] Lena: Hard cut as soon as the song's over, to the new direction's horrified faces.

[2:09:28] Ian: And then we just get like a five-second flashback of what it actually sounded like, and it's horrific.

[2:09:34] Lena: Perfect.

[2:09:35] Ian: I sugar.

[2:09:36] Lena: Love that.

[2:09:37] Ian: And I feel like now we're like deprived of a big spender, Glee cusp version on iTunes because of that.

[2:09:42] Lena: Exactly.

[2:09:42] Ian: Yeah.

[2:09:43] Lena: I want to hear what she sounds like in her head.

[2:09:45] Ian: And I think the episode is like everyone is, you know, brat is the big thing.

[2:09:51] Lena: Everyone is trying to have a brat summer.

[2:09:54] Ian: They're trying to prove like, no, I'm the most Gabrietta.

[2:09:57] Lena: I'm so Julia.

[2:09:58] Ian: Like it's me.

[2:10:00] Lena: Um, I think that Rachel really misunderstands what a brat summer is, but it's so important to her that she's having a brat summer.

[2:10:08] Ian: So let's for go your own way.

[2:10:09] Lena: Um her go your own way.

[2:10:11] Ian: I wish I had the track list in front of me, but literally all of my devices are being used.

[2:10:15] Lena: My immediate thought is she's singing sympathy as a knife.

[2:10:19] Ian: Ooh, explain it to us.

[2:10:20] Lena: Why?

[2:10:21] Ian: Well, I just feel like I hear her voice singing the end where she's like, oh, the sympathy is just a knife.

[2:10:29] Lena: I think she would eat that.

[2:10:31] Ian: And she has this way of, you know, the lyric of like, oh, what's the lyric?

[2:10:38] Lena: Like, I could never be her.

[2:10:39] Ian: We're on the other, I'm on the other side.

[2:10:41] Lena: Like, that's so Rachel.

[2:10:43] Ian: Like, somehow another girl's involved, probably Quinn, and she's probably another Finn song.

[2:10:49] Lena: Oh my god, totally.

[2:10:50] Ian: She's like, all the sympathy is just a knife, and some maybe someone goes, Oh, sorry, you can't get what you want.

[2:10:56] Lena: And then she's like, fuck your sympathy.

[2:10:58] Ian: Sympathy is just a knife to me.

[2:10:59] Lena: Yeah.

[2:11:00] Ian: I feel like I maybe go ahead.

[2:11:02] Lena: You go, Andrew.

[2:11:04] Ian: I feel like I was I was trying to, I don't know if you noticed, I was on my phone.

[2:11:07] Lena: Um, I was listening to everything that you're saying, but I was like, I know that a glistener, it might have even been like Claudia, that like sent um like a track this exact assignment.

[2:11:22] Ian: And I feel like I haven't like I couldn't find it, but I feel like she said or someone said sympathy is a knife is a Tolo.

[2:11:31] Lena: That's a Tina?

[2:11:32] Ian: Tina.

[2:11:33] Lena: Oh, I like Tina.

[2:11:35] Ian: I like Tina seeing that.

[2:11:37] Lena: Okay.

[2:11:38] Ian: I was explaining to Lena while you were having technical issues.

[2:11:43] Lena: And that um with Brat in particular, I listened to like the first four songs, and then they it kind of like loses me.

[2:11:53] Ian: And like I don't like around like I don't even know what what it is, but like track five, I'm just like, I need to restart.

[2:11:59] Lena: We should talk talk.

[2:12:00] Ian: We should talk talk.

[2:12:01] Lena: Oh, wait.

[2:12:02] Ian: So I like that.

[2:12:04] Lena: And then six is Von Dutch.

[2:12:09] Ian: So I don't know what I'm talking about, actually.

[2:12:11] Lena: Because no, because I feel like I just keep on cycling back, and this is so basic.

[2:12:15] Ian: But the 360 is really pulling so much weight.

[2:12:18] Lena: And it's three is three sixty group number at the end of episode.

[2:12:24] Ian: So I think maybe it I think that's good, but I think 365 is the group number.

[2:12:24] Lena: I think 365.

[2:12:31] Ian: I think we sandwich it just like it is on Brat and we open with 360, and 360 opens okay, like open.

[2:12:40] Lena: Okay.

[2:12:40] Ian: So here's my thought is that Quinn or Santana, but I'm I guess it like it makes more sense character-wise for Santana, but for Rachel to be jealous, it kind of needs to be Quinn, is like genuinely having a Brat Summer and is singing 360.

[2:12:57] Lena: Yeah, and it's like amazing.

[2:12:59] Ian: And she OG'd the Brat Summer Quinn.

[2:13:02] Lena: Yeah, she had the skank summer.

[2:13:04] Ian: Skank the skank summer.

[2:13:04] Lena: Skank Quinn is having exactly it is Skank Quinn and she's having a Brat Summer.

[2:13:09] Ian: And Finn.

[2:13:09] Lena: Wait, wait, can you be both?

[2:13:11] Ian: Can you be a skank and a brat?

[2:13:12] Lena: Yeah, no, yeah.

[2:13:14] Ian: Quinn is very brat.

[2:13:15] Lena: I just wanna I don't I don't know the rules with these things.

[2:13:17] Ian: Like a a like a square and a rectangle where you can have a brat summer and not have a skank summer, but and you can have but if you're having a skank summer, you're having brat summer.

[2:13:25] Lena: It's a brat summer.

[2:13:26] Ian: I so agree.

[2:13:27] Lena: Oh dear.

[2:13:28] Ian: Wait, so just in hindsight, because you're much you both are much more well versed in brats.

[2:13:34] Lena: We're having brat summers.

[2:13:35] Ian: Then really brat summers.

[2:13:36] Lena: Okay, wait.

[2:13:37] Ian: So would you say that in hindsight, all of this would you say that all the skanks are brat coded?

[2:13:44] Lena: One thousand percent.

[2:13:47] Ian: Okay.

[2:13:47] Lena: Yeah, I think so.

[2:13:48] Ian: I think so.

[2:13:49] Lena: Eating cat poop.

[2:13:50] Ian: Like that girl.

[2:13:51] Lena: Yeah, yeah.

[2:13:51] Ian: Eating cat poop.

[2:13:53] Lena: 100%.

[2:13:54] Ian: Smoking cigarettes, getting Ryan Secrets tattoos, um, that one dancer from so you think you can dance.

[2:14:01] Lena: Right.

[2:14:02] Ian: Having a brat summer.

[2:14:03] Lena: Yeah, having uh her name is the Mac and it means two things.

[2:14:06] Ian: Yeah.

[2:14:07] Lena: Totally.

[2:14:08] Ian: It's a brat summer.

[2:14:09] Lena: Okay.

[2:14:10] Ian: That's Brad Summer.

[2:14:11] Lena: I think it's Quinn's skank year.

[2:14:13] Ian: She's having a brat summer.

[2:14:14] Lena: We open on 360, and it's Quinn, you know, just like having a time.

[2:14:18] Ian: So now everyone is talking about how Quinn is like become the coolest girl in school, but not like she used to be like she's the alternative.

[2:14:25] Lena: She doesn't really care, coolest girl in school.

[2:14:28] Ian: Um, and Finn is suddenly getting like very interested in Quinn again because of this.

[2:14:34] Lena: And Rachel is like she's everywhere, she's so Julia.

[2:14:34] Ian: She's everywhere, she's so julia.

[2:14:40] Lena: And so Rachel Finn Bratt?

[2:14:42] Ian: Finn is not having a brat.

[2:14:44] Lena: But he he he likes the he likes what brat implies.

[2:14:49] Ian: He needs to for this plot that I'm pitching towards.

[2:14:52] Lena: Okay.

[2:14:53] Ian: I'm sorry I have so many questions, but I feel like I'm leading up on leading up to what the Rolo is.

[2:14:58] Lena: Oh, so I don't want to stop you from your rolo.

[2:15:01] Ian: Yeah.

[2:15:01] Lena: No, you're good.

[2:15:02] Ian: So I think Rachel really is trying to have a brat summer, but she doesn't understand the concept.

[2:15:07] Lena: So she's like, you guys, I'm Gabrietta Baby.

[2:15:10] Ian: My dad's and I just went on a musical theater cruise and I did karaoke to Barbara Streisand.

[2:15:15] Lena: Or she's like, I'm so Julia Sutton Foster was on this Broadway cruise that I just did.

[2:15:19] Ian: And everyone's like, Rachel, that is not Brad, and she doesn't get it.

[2:15:23] Lena: Um, and then she sees Finn kind of go after Quinn and that they're separating, and she gets all in her feelings, and she has her one actual brat moment when she sings so I and she's like, maybe she's like looking for a song to perform, and she pulls out the sheet music and it's like don't go breaking my heart, or it's like faithfully.

[2:15:44] Ian: And then she sings the whole like when I'm on stage I lie and say I love singing these songs you left behind.

[2:15:50] Lena: That she's like, Oh my gosh, Finn is off and just like we're supposed to be having a brat summer together, but we're not.

[2:15:56] Ian: Yeah.

[2:15:57] Lena: Um, I do like Tina as um as sympathy as a knife.

[2:16:01] Ian: Sympathy is a knife.

[2:16:02] Lena: I like that a lot.

[2:16:02] Ian: Do you think that with this Rachel and Quinn sing Girl So Confusing features?

[2:16:08] Lena: Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

[2:16:12] Ian: Exactly.

[2:16:13] Lena: They sing Girl So Confusing, the version with Lorde.

[2:16:17] Ian: Exactly.

[2:16:18] Lena: People say they're alike, they say they got the same hair.

[2:16:21] Ian: If I haven't okay, if I don't get a girl so confusing edit to my DM box within 24 hours of this episode dropping of Faberi, I'm gonna have a freak out.

[2:16:35] Lena: Did you watch the Sharp paint Gabriela one I sent you?

[2:16:38] Ian: I can't open TikTok anymore.

[2:16:40] Lena: Oh, it was so good.

[2:16:42] Ian: I feel like a couple needs to sing Talk Talk, is like a couple's dating in secret and they don't know what they are, and they sing talk talk to each other.

[2:16:51] Lena: Maybe it's like a maybe it's a Santana Britney moment when they are like I like that kissing, but then Santana is like, no, actually, I'm still straight, or Brittany's like, no, actually I'm dating Artie.

[2:17:03] Ian: Maybe it's like one of those moments.

[2:17:04] Lena: I like that.

[2:17:05] Ian: And then, like, in retaliation.

[2:17:08] Lena: No.

[2:17:09] Ian: No.

[2:17:10] Lena: I then I want one of them to sing guess.

[2:17:12] Ian: You want to guess the color of my underwear.

[2:17:14] Lena: Oh yeah.

[2:17:15] Ian: And then the other one's like, ugh, oh my gosh, you're driving me crazy.

[2:17:18] Lena: I do want to guess the color of your underwear.

[2:17:21] Ian: Would that be kind of fun?

[2:17:23] Lena: That would be kind of fun.

[2:17:24] Ian: I also my other big pitch is everyone cares so deeply about like having a brat summer and who's having the most of a brat summer.

[2:17:35] Lena: But Brittany is like kind of in the background for the episode, except like whatever the Santana Britney plotline little moment is.

[2:17:42] Ian: But besides that, she's kind of in the background.

[2:17:44] Lena: And then at the end, they're like watching this is now taking place in 2024 Instagram stories.

[2:17:50] Ian: Those were gonna say.

[2:17:51] Lena: Maybe there is on Brittany's Instagram, because if this is like season three, Instagram was just starting to exist.

[2:17:57] Ian: And there's fully like a picture of Brittany in a club with Charlie XCX, and everyone's like, What?

[2:18:03] Lena: Oh my god, why didn't you say anything?

[2:18:05] Ian: And she's like, I don't know.

[2:18:06] Lena: I didn't think it was important.

[2:18:07] Ian: I think I saw no, I saw Charlie XEX in in concert, maybe in like 2011.

[2:18:14] Lena: Oh my gosh, early days.

[2:18:18] Ian: Yeah.

[2:18:18] Lena: That's before Book.

[2:18:19] Ian: She toured with Marine.

[2:18:20] Lena: She toured with uh Marina and the Diamonds.

[2:18:25] Ian: So I'm gonna be able to do that.

[2:18:26] Lena: Marina and the Diamonds?

[2:18:27] Ian: You're kidding me.

[2:18:28] Lena: It was Marine and the Diamonds.

[2:18:29] Ian: It wasn't even Marina.

[2:18:30] Lena: And they're diamonds.

[2:18:31] Ian: Damn.

[2:18:33] Lena: Um the only Charlie song that they did on Glee was I Love It featuring Charlie.

[2:18:42] Ian: Oh yeah.

[2:18:43] Lena: Yes, that's Icon Pop.

[2:18:45] Ian: I kinda pop.

[2:18:46] Lena: Mm-hmm.

[2:18:46] Ian: Anyway, that's another very small addition that I have to this.

[2:18:50] Lena: I'm so sorry.

[2:18:51] Ian: I wish that I you're fine.

[2:18:53] Lena: If you told me, like, hey, you need to like listen to the entire album and have thought out ideas.

[2:18:59] Ian: No, you're fine.

[2:18:59] Lena: I would have.

[2:19:00] Ian: That's totally fine.

[2:19:02] Lena: And he's just a bit of whimsy.

[2:19:05] Ian: If this is a world where time doesn't exist, I think Kitty Wilde is singing Mean Girls.

[2:19:12] Lena: Okay.

[2:19:13] Ian: What is the Feko?

[2:19:15] Lena: This one's for Oh, the Meaning.

[2:19:17] Ian: Yeah, yeah.

[2:19:17] Lena: Okay, yeah.

[2:19:19] Ian: I also think that song is about Kitty Wilde.

[2:19:21] Lena: You know, she's fingering a gold cross.

[2:19:24] Ian: She already knows that you're obsessed.

[2:19:26] Lena: I think it's about Kitty Wilde.

[2:19:27] Ian: Oh my gosh.

[2:19:28] Lena: Okay.

[2:19:28] Ian: So maybe Kitty's singing it.

[2:19:30] Lena: Maybe like unique is singing it about Kitty, but Kitty is the topic of the song.

[2:19:36] Ian: Ooh.

[2:19:36] Lena: Unique Marley?

[2:19:39] Ian: Yeah.

[2:19:39] Lena: Oh my gosh.

[2:19:40] Ian: I actually love it being a Marleek duet about Kitty.

[2:19:45] Lena: Wait, I love that.

[2:19:46] Ian: That's an incredible idea.

[2:19:48] Lena: Wait, what are you doing?

[2:19:50] Ian: I actually really need that to happen now.

[2:19:52] Lena: That's such a good idea.

[2:19:54] Ian: Get them on the phone.

[2:19:55] Lena: Get them on the phone.

[2:19:57] Ian: And it's the whole like they're, you know, they're like in the hallway singing about it, and in the foreframe or the forefront of the frame, and in the background of the frame is Kitty acting it out.

[2:20:08] Lena: So the foreground and the background, you're so smart, you're correct.

[2:20:12] Ian: Thank you.

[2:20:13] Lena: Um like Kitty, you know, is in the back and she's like talking to Jake, and she's wearing a cross necklace and she's like twisting it around her finger as Marley is singing that lyric.

[2:20:24] Ian: Like it is Kitty acting out everything around the school as they're all observing, or they're like sitting in class looking out the window, and Kitty is on the field talking to some guy, and uh be incredible.

[2:20:34] Lena: Uh I have a logistical question.

[2:20:36] Ian: There's so much conversation about a brat summer.

[2:20:39] Lena: Um is the one season on Glee that they um never show.

[2:20:43] Ian: It's a state of mind.

[2:20:44] Lena: It's okay.

[2:20:45] Ian: Yeah.

[2:20:45] Lena: Okay.

[2:20:49] Ian: Wait, so are you suggesting?

[2:20:52] Lena: I mean, like, we we talked about like like skank quinn.

[2:20:55] Ian: So is this a season three episode one?

[2:20:57] Lena: Off the off of like off of a brat simmer.

[2:21:00] Ian: Okay.

[2:21:01] Lena: Yeah, I think it is very much that that it's everyone had a brat summer, and they're trying to prove who had the most brat summer.

[2:21:07] Ian: Who had the biggest brat summer?

[2:21:09] Lena: And then at the end, you find out it was actually Brittany who fully partied with Charlie, but she never ever brought it up and was never even trying to compete with anyone.

[2:21:17] Ian: Uh-huh.

[2:21:17] Lena: I love that.

[2:21:18] Ian: Do we think that there is like similarly to like theatricality where like all the girls are like Lady Gaga, and then all the boys gender are like Kiss.

[2:21:30] Lena: So it is all the boys are Chapel Roan.

[2:21:32] Ian: All the boys are Sabrina Carpenter.

[2:21:36] Lena: It's like I don't think there's not really a male artist popping off right now, at least.

[2:21:40] Ian: I know I can't even tell you what what men are making right now.

[2:21:43] Lena: All the time.

[2:21:44] Ian: Yeah.

[2:21:44] Lena: Have you seen there was a tweet that was the Powerpuff Girls, and it said, This is Sabrina Chapel and Charlie.

[2:21:51] Ian: I did see that.

[2:21:52] Lena: I like that.

[2:21:53] Ian: That's good.

[2:21:54] Lena: Um anything else?

[2:21:57] Ian: I know that we're really pining to make this episode even longer.

[2:22:01] Lena: Is there any songs on Brat we're missing?

[2:22:03] Ian: Like any heavy hips.

[2:22:07] Lena: Who's doing Apple?

[2:22:10] Ian: Oh god.

[2:22:11] Lena: Who's got family drama?

[2:22:12] Ian: Um Mercedes needs to speak this thing so far.

[2:22:16] Lena: Oh Mercedes.

[2:22:17] Ian: If we want to throw a dude something, maybe it's Finn singing.

[2:22:21] Lena: Because I was thinking having a hard time with the Hudson Hummel situation.

[2:22:21] Ian: Having a hard time with Carol and Bert living together.

[2:22:27] Lena: And I think it's a good follow.

[2:22:28] Ian: Like he does like a really function.

[2:22:30] Lena: No, I think it would.

[2:22:31] Ian: I think it fits his voice well.

[2:22:32] Lena: And I think I'm thinking of like Hello I Love You specifically with like all the Cheerios in the background dancing.

[2:22:39] Ian: Then I'm like, I could see them doing the Choreo to Apple.

[2:22:43] Lena: Yeah.

[2:22:43] Ian: And Finn, you know, he's having a hard time because Rachel's now like all heartbroken and mad at him, but then also like Quinn won't give him the time of day, and then also like things are weird at home with Bert, Carol, and Kurt, and he's just like, I just need to leave the apples rotten right to the core.

[2:23:02] Lena: That's it.

[2:23:03] Ian: Lena, what's Mercedes doing?

[2:23:06] Ian: I'm trying to figure it out. I want her to do something good. She could do Club Classics, she could do everything is romantic.

[2:23:16] Lena: Oh, I do like that. Is it like Sam and Sadie is having a brat summer together and everything is oh yeah, like maybe they went to Italy together.

[2:23:17] Ian: They went to Italy together.

[2:23:25] Lena: Summer loving.

[2:23:27] Ian: Yeah.

[2:23:27] Lena: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could just replace summer loving.

[2:23:29] Ian: Yeah. And then maybe Sam can have a really terrible tattoo, and that's what like spurs it.

[2:23:35] Lena: Like that tattoo's not by the Titanskin. You know what I mean?

[2:23:38] Ian: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, so how did how is um club classic getting in?

[2:23:45] Lena: When I got to the city, is well, I mean, like, we talked a lot about like Brittany having this uh Charlie um connection, but I feel like that's a little bit too obvious.

[2:23:56] Ian: Yeah, I think the Britney only lands if it is not a focal point at all, and then is just brought in at the end.

[2:24:04] Lena: It could be like a Blaine thing.

[2:24:06] Ian: Oh, I forgot about Blainey.

[2:24:08] Lena: Oh, it could be a Blaine thing.

[2:24:10] Ian: And like Kurt too. I could just like see him being like at the beginning of the like episode being like, I don't know about you all, but I had a really big Brat summer, and then they go Or is it is it kind of like the first time situation where Blaine is like so so so innocent and naive and Kurt's like, I'm kinda ready to take things to the next level, and Blaine is like I'm not so sure.

[2:24:34] Lena: So then Blaine tries to overcompensate and he's like, let's go to the club.

[2:24:40] Ian: And like Blaine is yeah, and he's like performing this at the club, and Kurt is like, This is actually more than I wanted.

[2:24:48] Lena: I am not super into this.

[2:24:50] Ian: I'm thinking about the fact that uh you just made me realize that Blaine is is the club Gleek in the Glee universe.

[2:24:59] Lena: He is the person that He's a circuit game.

[2:25:02] Ian: But I'm I I'm not completely sold on it the more I think about it though, you know?

[2:25:07] Lena: Like um it would Blaine be the one?

[2:25:09] Ian: I don't know. I'm gonna have to sleep on the club.

[2:25:11] Lena: He's the one who got super drunk and flirted with Sebastian and then was like the parking lot.

[2:25:18] Ian: Yeah.

[2:25:19] Lena: Yeah.

[2:25:19] Ian: And he's like, I'm I'm just gonna walk home.

[2:25:21] Lena: Which is not me saying that I think that's who Blaine is, but that is a representation of like in that episode, Blaine really wanted to prove that he was like cool and he took things too far.

[2:25:33] Ian: So I think this is Blaine being like, oh, Kurt wants us to have a Brat Summer. He takes it too far, and we have a very corny moment that it's like having a brat, like you don't have to, you know, like drink and go crazy to have a brat summer.

[2:25:47] Lena: Having a brat summer just means being true to yourself and not caring what other people think.

[2:25:51] Ian: And they're like, and that's the message on this week's episode of Glee.

[2:25:55] Lena: And they all say 365.

[2:25:57] Ian: Okay.

[2:25:59] Lena: Wait, go ahead.

[2:26:05] Ian: I was able to recover it, and I'm sending that file over right now.

[2:26:12] Lena: But uh I'm sending it before I can jump back on.

[2:26:15] Ian: I think Audacity is like kind of in the know with um where we should leave this conversation.

[2:26:21] Lena: Audacity is like cut cut the you bratted a little bit too hard.

[2:26:27] Ian: You brought it too close to the sun.

[2:26:29] Lena: Um okay, so gosh, that was so much fun. Genuinely.

[2:26:33] Ian: Had the time of my life.

[2:26:36] Lena: Um and why are you laughing?

[2:26:40] Ian: The genuinely made it sound sarcastic.

[2:26:43] Lena: I I can't.

[2:26:45] Ian: I already I already used up all my money being genuine this episode.

[2:26:49] Lena: I don't have any more genuine dollars.

[2:26:52] Ian: Um, but I I hope you know, I hope both of you know how much I love just friendship between gladcasts.

[2:27:03] Lena: Could you imagine a world where we're having these two gladcasts that just never engage with each other?

[2:27:09] Ian: Turf four.

[2:27:10] Lena: So scary.

[2:27:11] Ian: Yeah, too scary.

[2:27:13] Lena: Um speaking of GLOD cast, you do have a GLOD cast, and this is your opportunity to point people in that direction.

[2:27:22] Ian: I literally forgot about this.

[2:27:25] Lena: Lena, you want to take the reins, or do you want me to take the reins?

[2:27:29] Ian: Well, let me make sure I can okay.

[2:27:34] Lena: I'm recording again.

[2:27:35] Ian: Okay.

[2:27:35] Lena: I just over my first file.

[2:27:38] Ian: No, don't be sorry. You wanted her to speak when she was being silent.

[2:27:42] Lena: I know.

[2:27:43] Ian: You got us.

[2:27:46] Lena: Oh my god.

[2:27:46] Ian: We got money where your mouth is.

[2:27:48] Lena: That's not what that means.

[2:27:49] Ian: That's the opposite.

[2:27:51] Lena: Ian, I did get your um audio.

[2:27:54] Ian: Thank God.

[2:27:55] Lena: Oh my god, that really my heart fell out of my vagina.

[2:27:58] Ian: No, I think.

[2:27:59] Lena: Um, I we have a podcast about Glee sometimes. It's called Recovering Gleek: A Glee Podcast.

[2:28:08] Ian: And we've been taking a bit of a hiatus, but I've got news for y'all.

[2:28:13] Lena: We're gonna get we decided the 28th.

[2:28:19] Ian: 28th.

[2:28:20] Lena: Of August.

[2:28:22] Ian: Of August.

[2:28:22] Lena: Yeah.

[2:28:23] Ian: This is breaking news.

[2:28:24] Lena: We are we are uh slated to return August 28th.

[2:28:30] Ian: The day before our fourth birthday.

[2:28:32] Lena: Uh-huh.

[2:28:33] Ian: Our fourth birthday?

[2:28:34] Lena: Oh my god, can you believe?

[2:28:36] Ian: But yeah, we'll be back.

[2:28:38] Lena: But um, Andrew, genuinely.

[2:28:43] Ian: I I haven't I haven't, I have more cash for genuineness.

[2:28:48] Lena: Okay.

[2:28:48] Ian: Thank you for having us on.

[2:28:50] Lena: And thank you for letting us be here.

[2:28:52] Ian: I um you both uh mean so much to me.

[2:28:56] Lena: It's actually crazy.

[2:28:57] Ian: You've meant so much to me over these last couple of months.

[2:29:00] Lena: And uh I really just think Andrew, you're the bees knees, and I love your whole your whole thing.

[2:29:07] Ian: I really like thank you so much.

[2:29:14] Lena: No, I appreciate it. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say ditto in the most genuine way possible.

[2:29:23] Ian: If like you mean so much to me.

[2:29:27] Lena: I'm so glad that we can be here together and chat.

[2:29:31] Ian: And I I'm so glad honestly, I love uh an emotional glee moment, and I really needed that.

[2:29:36] Lena: And I feel like that was I was lovely and yeah, you guys are the best.

[2:29:42] Ian: Oh my god.

[2:29:43] Lena: Wow, Glee, this is crazy.

[2:29:46] Ian: I needed it too so damn bad.

[2:29:48] Lena: So thank you for providing a space.

[2:29:50] Ian: Because I don't there they're not naming names.

[2:35:58] Lena: There are some Gleek on here.

[2:35:58] Ian: I know that I wouldn't be able to have a that kind of conversation with.

[2:35:58] Lena: So I really really appreciate that we were able to have that sort of conversation.

[2:35:58] Ian: So thank you.

[2:35:58] Lena: Yeah, thank you.

[2:35:58] Ian: Oh my god.

[2:35:58] Lena: Ian, do you wanna do you wanna say something nice?

[2:35:58] Ian: It's your turn.

[2:35:58] Ian: Oh my gosh.

[2:35:58] Lena: I'll both of us if you're I was not I wasn't born with any genuine dollars, so that's a wrap on me.

[2:35:58] Ian: And that's also not even true.

[2:35:58] Lena: I think you don't give yourself enough credit.

[2:35:58] Ian: You are very genuine and very nice and very emotionally in tune.

[2:35:58] Lena: Oh my gosh, thank you.

[2:35:58] Ian: Um okay, we're gonna I also do a thing where if I'm speaking to someone, especially when it's being recorded, I just sound sarcastic because I feel like I'm coming out of my skin doing it.

[2:35:58] Lena: So I promise this is not gonna be sarcasm, everyone.

[2:35:58] Ian: Sorry, Andrew.

[2:35:58] Lena: Thank you for having us on.

[2:35:58] Ian: Truly, it is such a delight being here every time.

[2:35:58] Lena: I have been looking forward to it since you first messaged us.

[2:35:58] Ian: I was so excited.

[2:35:58] Lena: I wrote down all these notes about what I wanted to say because I just love this podcast.

[2:35:58] Ian: Um I think you do such a great job.

[2:35:58] Lena: Like harboring conversations and bringing in all these different perspectives and really getting content out of a show that's been off the air for nine years and you don't get enough respect.

[2:35:58] Ian: You don't.

[2:35:58] Lena: Oh, thank you.

[2:35:58] Ian: It truly is a joy, and you make it such a like safe and inviting space so that guests feel like you know, they the fact that your guests come on and to your face every week say this decision that you made is stupid and I don't agree with it, is actually a testament to what a good job you do as a host because they feel comfortable enough to say that to you.

[2:35:58] Lena: And I yeah.

[2:35:58] Ian: What were you gonna say?

[2:35:58] Lena: I I know, I am at a point right now where um yeah, I just I really appreciate you saying that so much.

[2:35:58] Ian: I already said earlier in the episode that it it's just I and I don't want to like harp on it, but it's just like especially doing it by myself now, that it's like there was the silver lining of like, hey, even if it's a shit episode, I at least get to talk to my friend for an hour, you know?

[2:35:58] Lena: And it's been really difficult uh at times, uh re-navigating.

[2:35:58] Ian: And so I really appreciate you saying that and in just like you just said, where it's like the genuine is gonna sound sarcastic.

[2:35:58] Lena: I feel I'm like happy that you called me out earlier because I'm like, I know that people were thinking that I was being sarcastic, and I assure anybody listening that is not the attention um at all.

[2:35:58] Ian: It's just I really do feel like I use up all the those genuine dollars with the imagined discourse.

[2:35:58] Lena: I did.

[2:35:58] Ian: Tears on pod.

[2:35:58] Lena: Yeah, tears on pod.

[2:35:58] Ian: So thank you both.

[2:35:58] Lena: Of course.

[2:35:58] Ian: I really appreciate it.

[2:35:58] Lena: And Lena Canaster.

[2:35:58] Ian: Um as Lena mentioned, this is the first time that we have had a recorded conversation about Glee since February.

[2:35:58] Lena: Long, long time.

[2:35:58] Ian: Yeah.

[2:35:58] Lena: Um, one, I'm glad we could do it here.

[2:35:58] Ian: I think it's very fun and very exciting to have this be our big comeback on the glee scene.

[2:35:58] Lena: But Lena People hate us now, did you hear?

[2:35:58] Ian: Oh.

[2:35:58] Lena: Are we giving it space?

[2:35:58] Ian: No, we're not giving it space.

[2:35:58] Lena: We're not giving it space.

[2:35:58] Ian: We're moving on.

[2:35:58] Lena: We're moving on a little bit.

[2:35:58] Ian: Okay.

[2:35:58] Lena: We have talked enough about that.

[2:35:58] Ian: We're not talking about that.

[2:35:58] Lena: Um, but I am so excited to start talking about Glee regularly again and to get back in the swing of things and be able to talk to my friend Lena on mic.

[2:35:58] Ian: Um semi-regularly again.

[2:35:58] Lena: We haven't fully decided how regularly, so tune in on August 28th when we have those details solidified.

[2:35:58] Ian: Um, and just I love both of you.

[2:35:58] Lena: I'm so glad we could share this little moment together.

[2:35:58] Ian: It was wonderful.

[2:35:58] Lena: Yeah.

[2:35:58] Ian: I know it's gonna mean it's like going to mean doubly the amount when I'm like listening back to this and editing it all by myself.

[2:35:58] Lena: So thank you for giving me that.

[2:35:58] Ian: You are um anybody else want to say anything further that's nice or otherwise before we say goodbye.

[2:35:58] Lena: I think we're getting pretty close to the record, so get your thoughts out now, kids.

[2:35:58] Ian: Oh wow.

[2:35:58] Lena: We might be.

[2:35:58] Ian: That's crazy.

[2:35:58] Lena: Um, I think, and I meant to say this at the beginning of the episode, but I forget.

[2:35:58] Ian: Um, I think with this episode, I think that we're officially halfway through round two.

[2:35:58] Lena: Round two.

[2:35:58] Ian: So we so we know at least 50% of who's gonna be there in round three.

[2:35:58] Lena: Dang.

[2:35:58] Ian: Uh, which is very exciting.

[2:35:58] Lena: And who's gonna win?

[2:35:58] Ian: Who's that has been the question on people's minds.

[2:35:58] Lena: Raise Your Glass season five.

[2:35:58] Ian: Raise Your Glass Season Five.

[2:35:58] Lena: I think so.

[2:35:58] Ian: I think it's gonna be between Oh, I can't wait to see what I realize what you're doing.

[2:35:58] Lena: You know what I mean?

[2:35:58] Ian: That's the part that's like Raise Your Glass Season Five.

[2:35:58] Lena: Yeah.

[2:35:58] Ian: Or Crush, not too much on that.

[2:35:58] Lena: Or Crush, yeah.

[2:35:58] Ian: Crush genuinely.

[2:35:58] Lena: I do think that round three is Crush's time.

[2:35:58] Ian: I don't think she goes further, but she earned her spot.

[2:35:58] Lena: She she did.

[2:35:58] Ian: And she is crushing it.

[2:35:58] Lena: Um, okay, so if you want to spread the beckets, you can go to patreon.com slash Gleek of the Week pod.

[2:35:58] Ian: Um, speaking of Allison, Alison is still doing monthly uh Glee Project recaps um over there.

[2:35:58] Lena: And I think that we're like by the time that you hear this episode, we'll have recapped season two episode eight of Glee Project Season Two.

[2:35:58] Ian: Always really fun.

[2:35:58] Lena: If you're looking for more I love the Glee Project.

[2:35:56] Ian: Oh my gosh.

[2:35:57] Lena: It's so stupid and so much fun.

[2:35:58] Ian: And I feel like there is there are some Gleek out there that they don't even know that it's like out there and it's untapped potential.

[2:36:07] Lena: So honestly.

[2:36:08] Ian: And I mean, I've said this.

[2:36:09] Lena: We've we when we were talking about the Glee Project.

[2:36:12] Ian: I I said it then, but I was so fucking obsessed with the Glee Project.

[2:36:16] Lena: There was a point where I was like, honestly, do away with Glee.

[2:36:19] Ian: The Glee Project is where it's where it's at the end of the way.

[2:36:21] Lena: Do away with that.

[2:36:22] Ian: Do away with it.

[2:36:23] Lena: I don't need her anymore.

[2:36:24] Ian: I don't like you're competing for nothing at this point.

[2:36:27] Lena: You're just You won by getting on this show.

[2:36:29] Ian: And that's Brat Summer.

[2:36:31] Lena: Right.

[2:36:31] Ian: And the Glee Project was Brat Summer.

[2:36:35] Lena: The original.

[2:36:37] Ian: Yeah.

[2:36:37] Lena: So like when they were trying to sing over each other, trying to sing the highest note.

[2:36:41] Ian: That's Brat Summer.

[2:36:42] Lena: I think that fight that Alex Newell and who were they fighting with?

[2:36:49] Ian: Mateo.

[2:36:49] Lena: Mateas?

[2:36:50] Ian: I think it was Mateus.

[2:36:51] Lena: To see who had the higher falsetto obsessed with that.

[2:36:55] Ian: That's iconic.

[2:36:56] Lena: Oh my god.

[2:36:57] Ian: Iconic.

[2:36:58] Lena: And Alex Newell at the end of it, I believe that he leaves the room and he's like, au revoir!

[2:37:03] Ian: And just like skips out of the room.

[2:37:07] Lena: Amazing.

[2:37:08] Ian: That's Brat Summer is not caring.

[2:37:11] Lena: And so with that, I feel the only apt way to end this episode is au revoir.

[2:37:18] Ian: Um okay.

[2:37:20] Lena: Bye!

[2:37:21] Ian: It's Gleek.

[2:37:22] Lena: Gleek of the week.