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[0:00] Andrew: Glee.

[0:04] Allison: Gleach.

[0:06] Andrew: Wow, I can already tell that this is gonna be a five-hour episode. Five hours long. And you know what? That's good because guess what? We're taking a break after this.

[0:17] Allison: We said glicky sleepy.

[0:19] Andrew: Gleaky. Gleaky sleepy. Gleaky busy. Glicky's so busy, and Gleaky has been doing this for 70 fucking weeks. We've been doing this. We've been doing this for over a year, and if you calculate the whole beautiful Glacket, it will take us five years into our 30s to finish this.

[0:43] Allison: And I think if we didn't 30,000, um, if we didn't take breaks, we wouldn't make it. Um, so this is all to tell you, Gleeks, that we are taking a three-week long break. There will still be a July Patreon bonus episode. We will never forget about you, patrons. Um, we will be back August 9th with content. Um, the Glistener episode will be the last episode for a while. Hopefully, it will keep you guys fed uh because it will be pro this episode will probably be like two hours long. I'm gonna guess.

[1:18] Andrew: The Glistener episodes always are. Um, and we have so many other episodes that you can go back to them and like get mad at reignite these. Reignite your flame, go back to Disney Plus and rewatch some of the series. That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna spend this break figuring out our lives, figuring out who we are as people. Um, number three, maybe there will be new podcasty things. Bigger and better guests. Who knows? We really like these voicemail things. I mean, like who's to say what's next? Who's to say what's next? Maybe it rhymes with glurch.

[1:53] Allison: Maybe it does. Oh, glurch.

[1:55] Andrew: Glurch. I'm trying to think what else could what else could rhyme with merch that I guess to steer them in the wrong direction. Birch. Birch Turch. Birch beer. Yeah. Um anyways, we'll be back August ninth. Sent keep sending us DMs. Keep tweeting at us. We'll still be active online. We just won't be able to do that. Um we love everything that we have accomplished in the past um 70 weeks. So, uh and if you wanna if you want to support us, obviously we have the Patreon.

[2:26] Allison: Yep.

[2:27] Andrew: But if you do not have the means to support us financially, we would love a five-star review. Leave us a nice review on Apple Podcasts that does not cost a single thing. We do this um basically for free. We get very minimal. Very little money for this. From these these ads that you've um that you've heard throughout the episodes. Uh so if you wanna support us, go leave us a nice five-star review on Spotify or Apple. Um that's the best way to support our podcast. So thank you.

[2:57] Allison: Um rolling into the Glee Mails. Let's get into some gloy mails.

[3:01] Andrew: Voicemails, not glee mails. Come correct. Um, do you have you wanna do yours first?

[3:06] Allison: I wanna do mine first, yeah. Here.

[3:08] Andrew: Okay.

[3:16] Allison: They should have one.

[3:19] Andrew: Agreed.

[3:19] Allison: I love it. Thank you for no name, no, no name, no pronouns, no ats to follow, just thoughts. And I loved it. A stinging opinion that has lasted over a decade. In my head, since there's multiple people saying that, they wrote it down somewhere. And they're all reading off of a notebook to say that. And I love it.

[3:40] Andrew: Wait, before we talk about this um this hot take that is mild.

[3:48] Allison: True.

[3:48] Andrew: Exactly. The transcription on Google on Google Voice. Google Voice says that you're saying season three, episode eight, Patrol Roy, The New Directions. They should have won. I don't know who Patrol Roy is.

[4:04] Allison: Title of the Episode Patrol Roy. I think Patrol Roy is title of that. I want Patrol Roy on the podcast. Find him. Track him down. Should have won.

[4:16] Andrew: When I see the word patrol, I automatically go paw patrol.

[4:20] Allison: That's a paw. Yeah.

[4:22] Andrew: Yeah. Um this isn't even a hot take. You're right. You're right. It's a take that uh everybody with a pulse has. Um I think that I would go one step further. I think New Direction should have came in third. Because Lindsay Pierce also, come on.

[4:44] Allison: What's new, Buenos Aires?

[4:46] Andrew: Exactly. Buenos Aires. But Lindsay Pierce was like, oh yeah, I'm coming in third, and this is the happiest day of my life.

[4:54] Allison: Yeah.

[4:54] Andrew: Next year's gonna be a bloodbath, then we never see it.

[4:58] Allison: Never see her again. Um yeah, uh, I don't know. I think when Recovering Gleek was on our podcast and we talked about this uh fatal decision to kill off the Troubletones in this episode. Um to murder the Treble Tones. They said that um we just did not see Santana, Mercedes, Brittany, and Sugar, like just scream profanity at the end.

[5:26] Andrew: Screaming. That was their other song.

[5:30] Allison: Yeah. And that's why they lost. And I think that's canon for me. But I would have loved to seen it.

[5:35] Andrew: Yeah.

[5:36] Allison: Again, well, I mean, I say this. We just talked to Ben Finer, our first Gleek guest. Spoiler alert. Um, and I said that I was never a Troubletones head.

[5:47] Andrew: Um, in the moment I never was, upon rewatch.

[5:52] Allison: I love them. We you recorded that thought maybe some like 20 minutes ago.

[5:54] Andrew: 20 minutes ago.

[6:01] Allison: You quickly change your mind that quickly about the.

[6:03] Andrew: No, no, no, no. I'm continuing off of that thought. In the moment, I was never a Britanna head, never really cared. Where's Blaine?

[6:09] Allison: Where's Blaine?

[6:10] Andrew: Where's Blaine? I want to see Darren Criss on my television. I pay good money to see Darren Criss on my television.

[6:16] Allison: We all do, yeah.

[6:17] Andrew: Um, so I didn't care about Britanna or the Troubled Tones. I thought that was a stupid storyline. Upon re-watching, I will pay attention.

[6:27] Allison: And I do not know.

[6:28] Andrew: Pay attention. There's a lot that happens, as it turns out, beyond just Blaine.

[6:33] Allison: Are you sure?

[6:33] Andrew: I'm pretty sure he's the only reason I watched this.

[6:36] Allison: I thought that the Troubletones plot was riveting. I thought it was fun. I thought it was too, it was cut too short. I Shelby, I don't like.

[6:43] Andrew: Shelby, I couldn't do without.

[6:45] Allison: I wish that it was just this mute woman that was leading the Troubletones that like every time that she tried to speak, they would just be like, shut up! I'm trying to watch my show, but then I hear this agitating voice.

[7:01] Andrew: And it's Shelby Corcoran.

[7:07] Allison: Um, yeah, Shelby is the devil. Not afraid to say that.

[7:11] Andrew: Um, what's your voice now, Andrew?

[7:14] Allison: My gloy smell. Uh it's it's from someone that we've been um referencing back, or at least I have for the the past few weeks. Here we go.

[7:26] Emily: Hi, Gleeks. My name is Emily. Uh I go by she/her. I am um a very active member of your podcast. I reached out multiple times via Instagram. I am, and I'm jumping up to it, I am the person who made that comment to Andrew about talking um to the guests with their um predictions, I guess you could say, if it's good or if it's bad. So you don't have to give Andrew the hate. You can give it all to me. Um but it's been very funny every podcast that I listen to and I'm like, oh shoot, he keeps talking about that.

[8:14] Emily: Anyways, love, love, love, love, love the podcast. I have been a Gleek since college. Uh I was a later in life Gleek, even though I started from the beginning. I just that's my way of saying I'm old. Um I am a fighter for so emotional. I am on that bandwagon.

[8:35] Emily: Uh also I had a night hot take. Uh now it was last week where uh Christmas rapping is my least favorite Christmas song of all time. I cringe every single time that it plays. I know it's not a uh common opinion, and I am also one of those people who reach for legit. So I have so many more opinions. I I'm driving, so I don't have the Glacket in front of me, but so emotional is one that really tore my heart up, and I am a Jesse's girl fan, so I am with you, Allison. But I want to thank you both for everything that you do. Your podcast is wonderful. I um love it, love it, love it, and I will be listening all the way until we find out what is the best song on Glee. Thank you for all you do. Uh my social is Emily C, so C-E-E-17, um, Instagram, TikTok, all of those fun things. Thank you guys. Bye.

[9:39] Andrew: I love. Uh there's a lot to unpack here.

[9:41] Allison: There's a lot to unpack here.

[9:43] Andrew: I want to start by saying, Emily, you have a wonderful voice.

[9:46] Allison: We love you, Emily.

[9:47] Andrew: Yeah. Oh my gosh. Just like I could listen to her speak about anything all day. What a what a delight.

[9:52] Allison: Yep.

[9:53] Andrew: I love it. You start. What do you want to say?

[9:55] Allison: I want to unpack the fact that Emily doesn't like Christmas rapping.

[10:01] Andrew: Okay.

[10:02] Allison: I get that Christmas rapping is not everybody's favorite. I'm coming from the standpoint.

[10:07] Andrew: I really like the song, hey Santa.

[10:07] Allison: Hey Santa, hey Santa.

[10:13] Andrew: And I have said that on this podcast before, and I will say it again. Um I like Christmas songs that are not typical.

[10:22] Allison: Yeah.

[10:23] Andrew: Um, and Christmas rapping is the opposite of typical. It's I love it. Um, I will say the Brittany version is I can see why you say cringy about the original Christmas rapping, okay?

[10:35] Allison: The Brittany version, not cringy at all. It's beautiful.

[10:40] Andrew: It's beautiful. Because I love it. The two waitresses' songs that they sing on Glee.

[10:44] Allison: Are so good.

[10:45] Andrew: And they're both iconic, but like I don't know and I maybe I need to listen to other waitresses' songs beyond Christmas rapping and I know a boys like.

[10:54] Allison: But like both of those songs are giving like monotone.

[11:01] Andrew: Yeah, very monotone.

[11:03] Allison: The waitress's songs. Let's see what the best waitress song.

[11:08] Andrew: Oh, literally the top two, Christmas rapping, I know a boys like.

[11:11] Allison: That makes sense.

[11:13] Andrew: Who sings I'm not gonna teach your boyfriend how to dance with you?

[11:16] Allison: That is the black kids, I think it's by black kids.

[11:22] Andrew: So good. This is the best song on Glee.

[11:24] Allison: I thought I that gave me the same vibe as Christmas rapping, as it's very like not expected from Glee.

[11:32] Andrew: No, because that's girl.

[11:35] Allison: You are the girl.

[11:37] Andrew: And I know what boys like that is two completely different.

[11:40] Allison: I will say they're different vibes, but they give me the same, like Glee would not sing this.

[11:45] Andrew: This is a weird song for Glee to sing.

[11:47] Allison: Sure.

[11:49] Andrew: Um yeah, I know. Did we ever we got a lot of um comments about Christmas rapping, and I think a lot of I think that La Jazz Hot still won in the poll.

[11:59] Allison: I think it was like a very close um competition.

[12:02] Andrew: I think that La Jazz Hot won 52% in the polls. Um but Gleeks, do you know who you're talking to here?

[12:11] Allison: It's a Kurt Solo versus a Britolo, babe.

[12:14] Andrew: No, you're read the room.

[12:16] Allison: We're not.

[12:18] Andrew: We're so mean to Kurt.

[12:20] Allison: We can't.

[12:20] Andrew: We're so mean like that.

[12:22] Allison: We're not mean to Kurt, but like also, like, I mean this in the nicest way possible because it's been weighing on my mind. If you don't like the decisions that we make.

[12:32] Andrew: And I mean this in the most sincere, this seems like a threat and so mean.

[12:36] Allison: But we do not have this copyrighted.

[12:39] Andrew: You can start your own podcast.

[12:41] Allison: And we would listen to every single episode.

[12:43] Andrew: Do the same format.

[12:45] Allison: Like just do the same thing.

[12:47] Andrew: It is so difficult to keep up with all of you Gleeks and your opinions.

[12:51] Allison: It is.

[12:51] Andrew: Everybody has different opinions. I'm sure. I mean, I'm not gonna spoil the next decision, but that we make on this podcast.

[12:59] Allison: But I'm sure, like, what was it last week?

[13:03] Andrew: The fox.

[13:04] Allison: People hated the fox.

[13:05] Andrew: Oh, that was like three, well, that was canonically, like three weeks ago.

[13:08] Allison: That's true, that's true. Um yeah, the fox. People hate the fox. And it's like, guess what? So do I.

[13:13] Andrew: But Michael Olivier is so persuasive.

[13:18] Allison: Yeah.

[13:18] Andrew: And I will do whatever he says.

[13:20] Allison: Michael Olivier says, vote for the fox.

[13:23] Andrew: I say, how high.

[13:25] Allison: How high.

[13:27] Andrew: How high do I have to be to vote for it?

[13:30] Allison: Um I have to huff whatever is coming out of the choir room, baby.

[13:36] Andrew: I um anything else about Emily's.

[13:39] Allison: Yeah, Emily, I will continue to um reference you. It's the Emily rule that the Emily rule.

[13:45] Emily: The that I've been following.

[13:49] Ben Finer: You do not follow this rule.

[13:51] Allison: I don't give a fuck.

[13:52] Ben Finer: Because I can't say that.

[13:53] Allison: This is Emily's rule.

[13:54] Ben Finer: No, no, no, no, because she gave you that note.

[13:57] Allison: I was never given that note.

[13:59] Ben Finer: That's true, that's true.

[14:00] Allison: I need Emily to come through into my DMs and be like, Allison, you also do it.

[14:05] Ben Finer: But also the thing is, I think that it happens more likely, and I'm this is not me calling you out, but like there are there are certain certain songs that you're like, I don't even know what this is, so you don't even have vibes to give.

[14:15] Allison: Literally, I'm just like, I don't even know what this is.

[14:17] Ben Finer: Season five, I guess.

[14:18] Allison: I don't know.

[14:19] Ben Finer: Okay.

[14:20] Allison: What is the happening Glee Cast version by Clee Girls?

[14:23] Ben Finer: Literally!

[14:24] Allison: Um, thank you for saying what you said about Jesse's Girl, Emily.

[14:28] Ben Finer: We're also not sure.

[14:31] Allison: Jesse's Girl is officially back.

[14:32] Ben Finer: I don't know if we have to.

[14:33] Allison: Thank you.

[14:34] Ben Finer: Jesse's girl is back.

[14:35] Allison: Hate on me, dead.

[14:36] Ben Finer: Bye bye, bitch.

[14:39] Allison: Don't say that.

[14:41] Andrew: Okay, um, so we have three wonderful gleeks um this week.

[14:45] Allison: Um, this episode will be 70 hours long, so I hope that you make the time.

[14:49] Ben Finer: Spread it out over the next three weeks.

[14:52] Andrew: So, our first gleek this week is Ben Finer.

[14:56] Ben Finer: How are you, Ben?

[14:57] Ben Finer: Hi, I'm so good. I'm gleaking freaking out.

[15:03] Andrew: Um, before we uh talk about anything about your hot takes on our podcast, because I know you have some opinions where you've disagreed with us.

[15:10] Ben Finer: Um, hot takes on the series Glee that we all know and hate.

[15:16] Ben Finer: Um, I have such a love-hate relationship with Glee.

[15:21] Ben Finer: It came out when I was in high school.

[15:25] Ben Finer: I remember so vividly watching the pilot after the American Idol finale in the spring of my I want to say sophomore year.

[15:36] Ben Finer: And I was obsessed.

[15:39] Ben Finer: And I remember really connecting with the song Rehab.

[15:45] Ben Finer: That was the that was the one song that I downloaded to my phone, and I would play it in the shower every day over the summer.

[15:52] Andrew: Amazing.

[15:53] Ben Finer: Just like jamming out.

[15:55] Andrew: Yeah.

[15:56] Ben Finer: Um.

[15:57] Ben Finer: And by the fall of 2009, my father was very ill.

[16:04] Ben Finer: And when the pilot re-aired, you know, I wasn't going to watch it.

[16:09] Ben Finer: I already saw it.

[16:10] Ben Finer: And he had passed away by the time the second episode started.

[16:14] Ben Finer: The show was out of my mind.

[16:17] Ben Finer: I didn't remember that it existed.

[16:19] Andrew: Okay.

[16:20] Ben Finer: So I was not watching it that fall.

[16:23] Ben Finer: And by my winter break of high school, they were re-airing episodes.

[16:30] Andrew: Okay.

[16:31] Ben Finer: And I binged it in a sense.

[16:34] Ben Finer: And I was like, oh my goodness.

[16:38] Andrew: Um.

[16:40] Ben Finer: And so like they didn't air, I want to say like episodes two, three, maybe even four.

[16:47] Ben Finer: So I bought like the first 13 episodes on DVD.

[16:51] Andrew: Nice.

[16:52] Ben Finer: And see what you meant.

[16:53] Ben Finer: So then I binged it over winter break.

[16:55] Ben Finer: And by the time the second half aired, I was fully locked in and loaded and was so obsessed with it.

[17:03] Andrew: And you watched until the end, I take it.

[17:05] Ben Finer: I did.

[17:06] Andrew: Okay, amazing.

[17:07] Ben Finer: A lot of people can say that.

[17:09] Ben Finer: I did.

[17:09] Ben Finer: And I was like so excited to watch it.

[17:12] Ben Finer: Um, seasons one, two, and three, four.

[17:15] Ben Finer: I was I was okay with it.

[17:19] Ben Finer: Five, it was rough.

[17:22] Ben Finer: And five is definitely my my least favorite.

[17:26] Ben Finer: Um, I'm actually fine with six.

[17:28] Ben Finer: It's kooky.

[17:29] Andrew: Okay.

[17:30] Ben Finer: Wait.

[17:31] Ben Finer: It'd like a defend six.

[17:33] Ben Finer: Because like I really don't I never reach for a single episode from six.

[17:37] Ben Finer: Like, what what is a good episode from season six that hits for you?

[17:40] Ben Finer: I couldn't tell you because five and six really are out of mind.

[17:46] Ben Finer: I whenever you play songs from those seasons, I'm like they sang those.

[17:52] Andrew: Right.

[17:53] Ben Finer: I I don't remember them.

[17:55] Ben Finer: Uptown funk.

[17:56] Ben Finer: Where was that?

[17:57] Andrew: Yeah.

[17:58] Ben Finer: Not quite sure.

[18:00] Andrew: Do you have hot takes for our podcast?

[18:03] Ben Finer: Anything that you've disagreed with that you've loved either way.

[18:07] Ben Finer: Um I have so many so many notes.

[18:12] Andrew: Let's go through.

[18:13] Ben Finer: Okay.

[18:13] Ben Finer: You just showed the notepad.

[18:14] Andrew: Okay, we're ready.

[18:16] Ben Finer: Um, okay, let's see.

[18:18] Ben Finer: First of all, I when you had Taisha from Vocal Adrenaline.

[18:23] Andrew: Yeah.

[18:24] Ben Finer: I that was like so exciting for me.

[18:27] Ben Finer: I I put in a emoji.

[18:29] Ben Finer: Our queen.

[18:31] Andrew: Um, let's see.

[18:34] Ben Finer: So the things that made me mad were basically I understand why you play the songs from the show and not the studio recording.

[18:45] Andrew: Yes.

[18:46] Ben Finer: But like hello goodbye, the studio recording.

[18:50] Ben Finer: I don't know why they left off Mercedes Riff in the TV version, because it makes it so much better.

[18:58] Andrew: Okay.

[18:59] Ben Finer: When they go into the hey la da da da.

[19:03] Ben Finer: So good.

[19:04] Andrew: And I f I remember correctly, like that is like a very surprisingly short performance.

[19:04] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[19:04] Ben Finer: Like that is like clocking in maybe at like 50 seconds somehow.

[19:13] Andrew: Absolutely.

[19:14] Ben Finer: It's crazy.

[19:15] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[19:16] Ben Finer: Um, let's see.

[19:18] Ben Finer: Also, jump.

[19:20] Ben Finer: They cut out the guitar riff part, which is where Mercedes sings along to it.

[19:28] Ben Finer: When I was in high school, I had such a high falsetto.

[19:32] Ben Finer: I I would sing along to it.

[19:35] Ben Finer: Oh my god.

[19:37] Ben Finer: I loved it.

[19:38] Ben Finer: And my sister and I, we were obsessed.

[19:41] Ben Finer: Um, so we would sing along to like certain songs in the car and fight for who got the part.

[19:46] Ben Finer: That romance was a big one where we would fight who would be Santana doing the French part.

[19:52] Andrew: Yeah.

[19:52] Ben Finer: Amazing.

[19:53] Ben Finer: Oh my god.

[19:54] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[19:59] Ben Finer: That the Glee people had anything goes and all by myself.

[20:06] Ben Finer: Not like, and then Lean on Lean on Me, not going through.

[20:13] Ben Finer: I was in choir all of high school, and I'm a professional singer.

[20:18] Ben Finer: Um, we I sort of forced my high school choir director to do some glee covers.

[20:26] Ben Finer: And we were we were like a like a serious magical group, but we would sometimes do popular songs.

[20:33] Ben Finer: So we did Lean on Me.

[20:35] Andrew: We did like a prayer.

[20:37] Ben Finer: And you were Mercedes, I would take it.

[20:41] Ben Finer: I actually we sang Lean on Me in Beijing, the Glee version.

[20:47] Andrew: Wait, we went to Beijing.

[20:49] Ben Finer: We did the summer after um graduating.

[20:52] Ben Finer: We were invited by the Chinese government to do this weird propaganda sort of talent show TV thing where they invited a group from each country to do a talent.

[21:08] Ben Finer: So from the US, we were the singers.

[21:11] Andrew: Okay.

[21:12] Ben Finer: In Russia, there were dancers.

[21:14] Ben Finer: In Japan, there were drummers.

[21:16] Ben Finer: So on.

[21:17] Ben Finer: And we went with John Burroughs High, which is in Burbank, very close to where I went to school.

[21:23] Ben Finer: And they're known for having show choirs.

[21:27] Andrew: Okay.

[21:28] Ben Finer: LA is not a show choir type of town.

[21:32] Ben Finer: I didn't know it existed until Glee.

[21:35] Andrew: Um, but Burbank, for some reason, they have show choirs.

[21:39] Ben Finer: So their big one, Powerhouse, is actually the inspiration for Vocal Adrenaline.

[21:45] Andrew: Oh, really?

[21:45] Ben Finer: That's good.

[21:46] Ben Finer: And so good.

[21:47] Ben Finer: So we went with them.

[21:49] Ben Finer: We were not a show choir, but we had to learn a routine that they did for Michael Jackson's Earth Song.

[21:56] Andrew: Okay.

[21:56] Ben Finer: And then we also did the Glee version of Lean on Me.

[21:56] Andrew: Lean on Me.

[22:01] Ben Finer: Cute.

[22:02] Andrew: That is good.

[22:03] Ben Finer: Wait, so you were mad that Lean on Me did not go through.

[22:06] Ben Finer: Yes.

[22:07] Ben Finer: I mean, it was against Bad.

[22:08] Ben Finer: And I think I voted for Lean on Me because I think it's like a season one staple.

[22:12] Andrew: Yeah.

[22:13] Ben Finer: Even though Bad is like aesthetically more of a better like performance.

[22:17] Ben Finer: But yeah, Lean on Me, it does hit you in the feels.

[22:20] Andrew: I don't know.

[22:21] Ben Finer: Brings up bad memories for me.

[22:23] Andrew: Bad memes.

[22:28] Ben Finer: Season two is the best season, but season one is the most sentimental.

[22:34] Andrew: Sure.

[22:35] Ben Finer: Wait, and so what is your beef with Anything Goes?

[22:39] Ben Finer: That I didn't get to vote for it.

[22:42] Andrew: Oh, okay.

[22:43] Ben Finer: Okay.

[22:43] Ben Finer: Well, it's still going through.

[22:44] Andrew: It's going through the next round.

[22:46] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[22:46] Ben Finer: That's all they can.

[22:48] Ben Finer: Glee does mashups like no other.

[22:51] Ben Finer: I think they invented it.

[22:52] Andrew: Because before that, they were just medleys where it would go from a song to another song.

[22:58] Ben Finer: They wouldn't be together.

[22:59] Andrew: Mm-hmm.

[23:01] Ben Finer: I just watched the episode Mashup on my rewatch.

[23:05] Ben Finer: That's good.

[23:06] Andrew: Or no, Vitamin D.

[23:08] Ben Finer: Vitamin D, yeah.

[23:09] Ben Finer: Will introduces it.

[23:10] Ben Finer: And it's like, oh yeah, duh.

[23:12] Ben Finer: Like, this is Puck's like, what's a mashup?

[23:14] Andrew: And it's like, duh, this is what it is.

[23:16] Ben Finer: And the kids completely understand the assignment.

[23:19] Ben Finer: Um I think I would have.

[23:20] Andrew: You're about to actually invent it.

[23:22] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[23:22] Ben Finer: Exactly.

[23:24] Ben Finer: Um, I also cried that Nikki Blonsky got to do We Are Young.

[23:30] Ben Finer: Because I feel like you didn't like it that much.

[23:37] Andrew: But I don't personally like it, but Andrew likes it.

[23:40] Ben Finer: I do.

[23:40] Ben Finer: I am not personally, I'm not a crier.

[23:44] Ben Finer: I vividly remember watching the episode where they did We Are Young because that's when the Troubletones come back.

[23:51] Andrew: Yep.

[23:52] Ben Finer: When the Holy Trinity started singing their part, I was crying.

[23:58] Ben Finer: Wow.

[23:59] Ben Finer: It was powerful.

[24:00] Ben Finer: I love that version.

[24:03] Andrew: Wait, but like, why doesn't it land for you, Allison?

[24:06] Andrew: What is it about it that you don't like?

[24:08] Allison: I think I don't know.

[24:10] Allison: The whole Troubletones concept doesn't hit for me.

[24:14] Allison: Um I was on the Blaine train from day one.

[24:18] Allison: Like, if it doesn't contain Blaine, I didn't really care for the storyline.

[24:23] Ben Finer: Wow.

[24:24] Allison: That's sick.

[24:25] Allison: I'm just gonna say that.

[24:26] Allison: I was never a Britanna head.

[24:29] Allison: I was never Mer on Mercedes's side.

[24:31] Allison: I was always, where's Blaine.

[24:33] Ben Finer: Never even I thought you were a Sam Sadie's stan.

[24:36] Allison: I was a Sam Sadie stan, but early on, season three, I'm like, where's Blaine?

[24:41] Allison: I don't care about anything else.

[24:43] Andrew: Okay.

[24:43] Ben Finer: Um, we're striking this from the record.

[24:45] Allison: Yeah.

[24:45] Allison: Um also I wanted to bring up, I was so um captivated.

[24:52] Allison: I don't know if you do this anymore, but I you used to go live on TikTok and used to fall asleep to Glee songs.

[25:01] Allison: Like you would you would live stream you sleeping, and it would just be Glee songs shuffling.

[25:08] Allison: And I remember I would I would tune in sometimes and I'd be like, I would just love to see like what song he wakes up to.

[25:14] Allison: What song is he gonna wake up to?

[25:15] Ben Finer: But I would always miss it.

[25:16] Allison: And I was like, I wanna I wanna see if like he wakes up to like people, Glee Cast version by Glee Cast or like Superman Glee Cast version by Glee Cast, you know.

[25:24] Ben Finer: But like, wait, where did you even get this idea?

[25:27] Andrew: Okay, so I was so obsessed with the show, I own, I wanna say like the first 300 something songs on my phone.

[25:39] Ben Finer: Because I would buy everyone after every episode.

[25:43] Andrew: Right.

[25:44] Ben Finer: And I I would charge it to my mom's card.

[25:47] Andrew: A lot of children did, yeah.

[25:49] Ben Finer: That's what was on my iTunes account.

[25:51] Ben Finer: I don't think she knows.

[25:52] Ben Finer: Sorry.

[25:52] Ben Finer: I was over $300 worth of Glee cast.

[25:56] Andrew: And at first, songs were only 99 cents, not a dollar twenty-nine.

[26:01] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[26:03] Ben Finer: Um and because I'm so like loyal to seasons one through three, I don't own season four through six songs.

[26:12] Andrew: Nice.

[26:12] Ben Finer: That's why I am not really familiar with them.

[26:14] Andrew: Sure.

[26:15] Ben Finer: Wait, not at all.

[26:16] Andrew: Not at all.

[26:18] Ben Finer: Really?

[26:18] Ben Finer: I wow.

[26:19] Ben Finer: I think for some reason, I just wasn't clicking with the whole new cast in season four.

[26:30] Ben Finer: Ultimately, I do like some of them a lot.

[26:34] Ben Finer: But the vibes were just shifting.

[26:37] Andrew: And you weren't gonna spend 99 cents to a dollar 29 on that.

[26:41] Ben Finer: No.

[26:42] Ben Finer: No.

[26:42] Ben Finer: But my mom wasn't.

[26:44] Ben Finer: You know, my my TikTok account, I have a lot of fun with it posting my musical theater cringe, my Glee content.

[26:54] Ben Finer: And when I go live, you know, the people they want the Glee stuff.

[27:01] Andrew: Even when I'm sleeping.

[27:04] Ben Finer: So I turn on those stupid TikTok lights.

[27:10] Ben Finer: And I just say, hey Siri, shuffle Glee cast, and it plays everything.

[27:15] Allison: I would be so afraid that I would be like talking in my sleep.

[27:19] Allison: Or like I don't like I wouldn't even be thinking.

[27:21] Allison: I would be so concerned.

[27:22] Andrew: That's so brave of you as a gleek to do that.

[27:24] Ben Finer: I'm a really deep sleeper, but then when I've done it at like 5:30, I panically wake up because the music gets so loud in my ear, even though it's not actually loud.

[27:38] Ben Finer: So that's why I don't really do it so much now.

[27:43] Natalie: Do you gain a following through that?

[27:45] Joe: Like people are people just like, I'm gonna watch it.

[27:47] Natalie: People are like WTF.

[27:49] Joe: They really don't understand.

[27:52] Natalie: No, it really tickles something for me.

[27:56] Joe: I really enjoy it.

[27:57] Natalie: Yeah, yeah.

[27:59] Ben Finer: So good.

[28:00] Andrew: Um, are we ready for our first song?

[28:02] Ben Finer: Yeah, what are we projecting today, Ben?

[28:04] Natalie: I feel like we've talked a lot about Vocal Adrenaline. We haven't gotten like either of those Taisha songs, Mercy or Rehab.

[28:12] Joe: What other songs are we rooting for?

[28:15] Ben Finer: I have to think what you haven't listened to.

[28:18] Natalie: There's not a ton in this cup anymore.

[28:20] Ben Finer: This cup is not as full as it used to be.

[28:22] Natalie: Yeah, it's good and light.

[28:24] Ben Finer: Okay, I'm ready.

[28:25] Natalie: Okay.

[28:26] Joe: Are we gonna sing what we think is gonna play?

[28:28] Andrew: Oh, yeah.

[28:29] Natalie: Wait, yeah, no.

[28:31] Joe: So I'm not gonna sing, but you guys sing what you think is going to be on here.

[28:36] Ben Finer: Wait, do you have one, Ben?

[28:37] Natalie: Yeah.

[28:38] Andrew: And Allison, I think that you should still do your little bit that you've been doing.

[28:42] Allison: Okay, I'll do my little bit that I've been doing.

[28:45] Ben Finer: Three, two, one.

[28:47] Allison: I want to do this.

[28:49] Ben Finer: It isn't empty.

[28:55] Natalie: Wait, I still want somewhere we go sometimes.

[28:59] Ben Finer: Wait, you were singing Bad Romance, Ben, right?

[29:01] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[29:01] Natalie: Did you already?

[29:02] Ben Finer: We've already been.

[29:03] Natalie: We already did it, but I wanted again.

[29:05] Ben Finer: We want it again.

[29:07] Allison: I want it again.

[29:08] Andrew: Um, I've been singing, I feel like I always reach for the Quinn song. So I did like I'm Still Standing, even though I don't actually really like it. I feel like this is the vibe today.

[29:18] Ben Finer: Great.

[29:19] Andrew: I do have our first song. I randomly selected it out of our cup. It's a good one.

[29:22] Natalie: Okay.

[29:25] Andrew: I'm so excited.

[29:28] Joe: Yes.

[29:36] ♪ Musical number: "Hell to the No" — performed by Mercedes ♪

[31:19] Ben Finer: So many thoughts. So many thoughts. Ben, let's start with you. What are you thinking about Mercedes' original song, Hell to the No?

[31:26] Ben Finer: That's the best original song. Without a doubt.

[31:28] Natalie: Yeah, I thank you for saying that. I think it could be a radio hit. If they changed a couple lyrics, it's a great song.

[31:37] Joe: Mm-hmm.

[31:38] Ben Finer: Do you remember like that? They would play Loser Like Me on the radio.

[31:42] Natalie: I remember hearing it a few times, and I'm like, where was this on the radio?

[31:46] Ben Finer: I do. I remember on E when they had like E News at the end credits, they would play Loser Like Me or the other group one.

[31:57] Natalie: Um, Light Up the World.

[31:59] Ben Finer: Yeah. I guess they're like related, but they were playing it.

[32:05] Joe: That's wild.

[32:06] Ben Finer: Okay. This isn't pulling, this isn't the competition at hand. But if we were gonna say Hell to the No or Shaking My Head.

[32:15] Natalie: Stop it.

[32:15] Ben Finer: I knew you were gonna bring up Shake My Head.

[32:17] Joe: I love Shaking My Head.

[32:20] Ben Finer: It's Mercedes' original song from season six.

[32:24] Natalie: Season five finale.

[32:26] Ben Finer: Season five finale, and she is on her little mall tour, and the words are literally shick, shake, shake in my head, shake, shick.

[32:34] Joe: She says, um, why is Jesus a white guy if he's from Palestine? That can't be right.

[32:44] Ben Finer: I love that song.

[32:46] Natalie: It is hilarious.

[32:49] Ben Finer: I think I feel bad for Amber Riley for singing that though.

[32:53] Joe: No, it's camp. It's camp, and I think Amber Riley would have loved it.

[32:58] Ben Finer: Um, because I almost even feel bad for Amber Riley singing the lyrics. Like, they tell me I should eat my Wheaties because I'll come down with diabetes.

[33:08] Natalie: Try to wait and take my tots.

[33:10] Ben Finer: Yeah. And I'm like, this feels like rude.

[33:14] Joe: I feel like I remember something about Amber Riley being like, I don't like these lyrics.

[33:20] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[33:20] Joe: But I had to sing them. Um, but it's still a bop. Camp. I love Hell to the No by Mercedes.

[33:26] Ben Finer: Um, do we remember uh keyboard gate? Do you remember what immediately followed this scene?

[33:36] Joe: Ben, do you recall this is the original song in season two?

[33:41] Ben Finer: This okay, so this is original song in season two, and this is famously the episode where Kurt and Blaine like start their relationship.

[33:49] Natalie: And the scene prior is like them like talking about singing candles at regionals and everything, and then they start kissing and they kiss once and then they like talk and they're like da-da-da-da-da. They're like, oh, that was so hot, and then they go back in for more, and then it cuts to dun dun dnun.

[34:07] Joe: And so I remember like there was like a compilation online of like famous kisses from like movies and everything. And then it's like the second like that it starts getting really good and passionate, it's the dun, dun, dun.

[34:19] Ben Finer: And I love. It's so good.

[34:20] Natalie: That's good.

[34:22] Ben Finer: I love that. Um, but yeah. Any more thoughts on Hell to the No?

[34:28] Joe: It's perfect.

[34:28] Ben Finer: It's perfect. I wouldn't change a thing.

[34:32] Natalie: Yeah. And then Mr. Schuster's like, I don't think this is a good contender for regionals.

[34:35] Joe: Shut the fuck up, Mr. Shu.

[34:37] Ben Finer: Fire him.

[34:38] Natalie: Yeah. Early on in the series, I'm re-watching season one, obviously.

[34:44] Ben Finer: Finn calls him Mr. S at one point.

[34:47] Natalie: Oh.

[34:48] Ben Finer: It makes my entire body hurt. I'm like, never say that again.

[34:51] Joe: He was testing out a bit.

[34:52] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[34:52] Joe: Testing out a bit.

[34:53] Ben Finer: It didn't let. Um, I'm worried for Hell to the No. I'm concerned.

[34:58] Natalie: I'm not.

[34:59] Ben Finer: Um, I love Hell to the No. Let's see.

[35:04] Joe: Okay.

[35:06] Ben Finer: Okay.

[35:07] Natalie: Season f I can't say anything.

[35:09] Joe: Don't say anything.

[35:10] Ben Finer: I say things, but I love that you get the I'm not saying anything.

[35:16] Natalie: Um, I know that this hits for Allison. But here we go. I'll think about it.

[35:21] Joe: Oh my God.

[35:25] Ben Finer: Some people stay far away from the door if there's a chance of it opening up.

[35:34] Natalie: They hear a voice in the hall outside and hope that it just passes by.

[35:43] Ben Finer: Some people see through the eyes of the old before they ever get a look at the young.

[35:56] Joe: Because I am an innocent man.

[36:07] Ben Finer: An innocent man.

[36:15] Joe: Oh yes, I am.

[36:21] Ben Finer: Some people sleep all alone every night instead of taking a lover to bed.

[36:30] Natalie: Some people find that it's easier to hate than to wait anymore.

[36:39] Ben Finer: I know you don't wanna hear what I say.

[36:43] Natalie: I know you're gonna keep turning away.

[36:48] Ben Finer: But I've been there, and if I can survive, I can keep you alive.

[36:53] Joe: I'm not above going through it again.

[36:59] Ben Finer: And although this is a vi, I can lose the accused is an innocent man.

[36:59] Natalie: An innocent man.

[37:17] Joe: Oh, yes, yes.

[37:30] Ben Finer: Marley, will you go out with me?

[37:32] Natalie: No.

[37:34] Ben Finer: I have so much to say, but Ben, let's start with you. What are you thinking about Ryder's solo, Innocent Man?

[37:41] Ben Finer: That did not age well.

[37:43] Joe: No.

[37:44] Ben Finer: No.

[37:44] Joe: I was thinking, shape or form. Twisted irony there.

[37:48] Ben Finer: Yeah. Wow. Um also I'm not sure what are what's the context in this.

[37:57] Joe: Sure, so I'll get into it. Um, because I do love this song. Um, people are gonna hate that. Gleeks are gonna hate that I love Innocent Man, Ryder's solo.

[38:09] Ben Finer: I think he sounds okay. This is the best Ryder solo. This is the best Ryder solo on the show.

[38:14] Joe: I love this song, it's very good for me. It hits all the right notes.

[38:19] Ben Finer: Um, so this is the Billy Joel episode. Marley's drama going on in the Marley Jake Glue universe.

[38:27] Joe: And um, extended Gluoniverse. And Jake breaks up with Marley, or Marley breaks up with Jake, he sings.

[38:34] Ben Finer: Um, what my it's my life.

[38:37] Joe: My life cheating anthem.

[38:38] Ben Finer: Yep, cheating anthem. Um, he goes off, and then Ryder's like, this is my fucking chance to get in with Marley. I've had a crush on her this whole time.

[38:45] Joe: Um, I'm the right man for you, Marley, and sings this song, and so Jake is like pissed off, and Mr. Schuster is kind of getting that like, oh, there's drama going on.

[38:58] Ben Finer: I love the concept that literally Ryder starts singing this song outside and walks in. Like there's no even cut shot. It was it's like um Birdman. It's all one continuous shot coming into the choir room.

[39:13] Joe: So good.

[39:14] Ben Finer: This song, I mean, it hits for me. I really when I play this on Shuffle, this is the only Billy Joel song I really like from this episode. I like this Ryder solo. It's not gonna go through because I love Hell to the No more, and I think the Gleeks would hate it if we put an Innocent Man through. Um, but from the Ryder Marley standpoint, not the Blake Melissa standpoint, this is a good song for me.

[39:41] Joe: Does that land for you, Ben? Does it land for you more?

[39:43] Ben Finer: No, it doesn't.

[39:45] Joe: Oh, okay.

[39:46] Ben Finer: Even though he sounds fine, I don't even love the song.

[39:52] Joe: It's very simple.

[39:54] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[39:55] Joe: Okay.

[39:56] Ben Finer: Yeah. Um, and also, I mean, like, Ryder doesn't have like a lot of solos to choose from, but I still don't think this is the best. I think your song is still bad.

[40:09] Joe: You cannot do that when we just had Cameron Mitchell on this podcast, and you've heard Cameron Mitchell your song.

[40:15] Ben Finer: Don't do that.

[40:16] Joe: It's not on the podcast, but that's it.

[40:18] Ben Finer: Just because oh my god, are we saying that Cameron Mitchell's version of your song is better than Elton John's?

[40:24] Joe: Yeah, we are.

[40:28] Ben Finer: Um, yeah, I don't I don't like this. I wrote down, yeah, it's sick, sick twisted irony, the song title. Um, but also Tina looks really cute.

[40:39] Natalie: Tina does look really cute.

[40:39] Ben Finer: And Artie looks really cute. His hair looks good.

[40:42] Natalie: Yeah, they all look cute.

[40:44] Ben Finer: Um, yeah, this does nothing for me. Jake is wearing a red t-shirt and a green button up over, unbuttoned, and then he's rolled the sleeves so that the red t-shirt sleeve is poking out.

[40:59] Joe: No.

[40:59] Ben Finer: Are you kidding me?

[41:00] Joe: Yeah.

[41:01] Ben Finer: But go back to the very beginning of the song. What are they what are those mirrors doing?

[41:06] Natalie: Um, this is the job fair in season five.

[41:09] Ben Finer: But I don't know what why there would be a bunch of what is that supposed to be? What job is that?

[41:14] Andrew: A bunch of mirrors.

[41:17] Ben Finer: I don't think they look like vintage mirrors.

[41:19] Andrew: What job is this?

[41:21] Ben Finer: I think it's a very pretty shot, but like at what cost?

[41:21] Natalie: At what cost?

[41:26] Ben Finer: I'll never know.

[41:27] Andrew: There's a picture frame.

[41:29] Natalie: Yeah.

[41:30] Ben Finer: And then, like, as we go through the job fair, like there's like a stuffed Saint Bernard in the city.

[41:37] Andrew: I think that's vet school.

[41:39] Natalie: Vet school.

[41:39] Ben Finer: That's the Animal Husbandry Club.

[41:41] Andrew: Yeah.

[41:42] Natalie: Oh, and then what is that?

[41:43] Ben Finer: Oh, a bike.

[41:46] Andrew: Okay.

[41:47] Natalie: Um, that's it.

[41:49] Ben Finer: That's all we get.

[41:50] Andrew: That's it.

[41:50] Ben Finer: And then he's straight up one single shot, bird man goes into the choir room singing.

[41:55] Natalie: Yeah.

[41:55] Ben Finer: And that Glee Club is looking light these days.

[41:58] Andrew: They are.

[41:59] Ben Finer: There are five people in there.

[42:01] Andrew: Yeah.

[42:01] Natalie: Um, okay.

[42:03] Andrew: So, so yeah, it's held to the no in a sweep, right?

[42:05] Ben Finer: Hell to know in a sweep.

[42:07] Andrew: Totally.

[42:07] Natalie: Yeah.

[42:08] Andrew: Um.

[42:09] Ben Finer: No contest.

[42:10] Natalie: No contest.

[42:10] Andrew: I'm eager to see when we post this poll on the Glinstagram, what people think.

[42:17] Natalie: I want to hear people's thoughts.

[42:19] Ben Finer: Well, it happens every single time. Like, people still voted for like final countdown Glee Cast version by GleeCast.

[42:25] Andrew: And I'm like, you guys are sick.

[42:28] Natalie: Like, you're fucking with us, I feel at this point.

[42:30] Ben Finer: I think what I really want to do, Andrew, you can weigh in on this if you think this is a good idea. I kind of want to post polls, and then I want to post fight with us.

[42:42] Andrew: Fight with us, defense.

[42:43] Ben Finer: Defend it.

[42:44] Andrew: Defend your choice.

[42:46] Ben Finer: Like, if we have a particularly crazy poll, I'm gonna be like innocent manheads, post your defense.

[42:55] Andrew: Post your defense anonymously.

[42:57] Ben Finer: You're allowed to say whatever you want.

[42:58] Andrew: Say whatever you want.

[43:00] Ben Finer: I will post these anonymously, and then I will agree with you.

[43:04] Andrew: We can't take your glee card away.

[43:06] Ben Finer: No.

[43:08] Andrew: Go right ahead.

[43:11] Andrew: Ben, we're gonna ask every single glistener this episode our favorite question of all time. If Glee was still on in 2022, what do you think they're singing?

[43:20] Ben Finer: I've been thinking about this long and hard.

[43:23] Andrew: Good.

[43:24] Ben Finer: I'm confused why so many people said WAP. That's not a good song for them to sing.

[43:31] Andrew: You don't think so?

[43:32] Ben Finer: No. It's a rap song that Cardi and Megan did very well.

[43:38] Andrew: Yes.

[43:39] Ben Finer: Leave it alone.

[43:41] Andrew: Leave it alone.

[43:42] Ben Finer: Like, how about Darren Criss being like, I wish today it would rain all day.

[43:48] Natalie: With a fly.

[43:49] Ben Finer: I don't know.

[43:50] Ben Finer: Me, me, me against them, me against enemies, me against friends.

[43:55] Natalie: Um, so Lauren stole my idea for them doing Greatest Showman.

[44:00] Ben Finer: Yeah, that would have been really good.

[44:03] Natalie: But I have two ideas. There's a serious lack of Mariah Carey, because they only did All I Want for Christmas and that horrible mashup with the excellent Super Bass.

[44:16] Ben Finer: I think Super Bass is great.

[44:19] Natalie: Blaine's Mariah thing is not good.

[44:22] Ben Finer: No.

[44:22] Natalie: Should have been left out.

[44:23] Andrew: What Mariah would you have wanted to hear?

[44:25] Natalie: Because personally I would have wanted Always Be My Baby.

[44:33] Ben Finer: I think Amber has to sing Mariah. She's the only one who can do it.

[44:38] Natalie: Singing We Belong Together. That's my favorite Mariah song.

[44:42] Ben Finer: Yep.

[44:43] Natalie: Yeah.

[44:43] Ben Finer: Or because there was a lack of Mercedes and Unique, they never sang together.

[44:51] Natalie: They have to do When You Believe from Prince of Egypt.

[44:54] Ben Finer: Oh my God. Wait, who's taking the Whitney part?

[44:58] Natalie: Unique.

[44:59] Ben Finer: Unique is.

[45:00] Natalie: Okay.

[45:00] Ben Finer: Yeah. That's good.

[45:02] Natalie: And then I would have loved like a mid-aughts episode where they do Paris Hilton songs, Lindsay Lohan, Ashley Simpson, Hilary Duff, JoJo, and Avril, that sort of thing.

[45:14] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[45:14] Natalie: I would have lived for that.

[45:16] Ben Finer: Would have lived.

[45:17] Natalie: Yeah, I totally. The fact that they don't even mention Paris Hilton's song on this show is a missed camp opportunity.

[45:25] Ben Finer: Well, I think that they would have done it poorly. I think that if we got it, it would have been bad, and I think it might have been like an arty solo or something, and something that we wouldn't have wanted.

[45:32] Natalie: I think Quinn, maybe Brittany, Kitty, all would have sounded great on Stars Are Blind.

[45:40] Ben Finer: Yeah, I agree. That would have been, yeah, really, really good.

[45:43] Natalie: I was listening to Oh Santa by Mariah Carey, Jennifer Hudson, and Ariana Grande this morning.

[45:49] Ben Finer: This is a good song for you.

[45:52] Natalie: Is it hitting, Ben?

[45:53] Ben Finer: Yes.

[45:54] Natalie: Excellent. I was thinking, and I wanted to hear your thoughts on this. Who would be taking Mariah? Who would be taking Jennifer and who would be taking Ariana for that for the Glee Cast version?

[46:05] Ben Finer: I'm not sure any of them can do whistle notes.

[46:08] Natalie: I was thinking, yeah.

[46:10] Ben Finer: Because we don't, I don't think we get a single whistle note in all 121 episodes.

[46:15] Natalie: History of Glee and the guest goes.

[46:18] Ben Finer: Whistle range is an auxiliary range, so you either have it or you don't.

[46:24] Natalie: Okay.

[46:25] Ben Finer: You can be the highest soprano and still not have it.

[46:29] Natalie: Yep.

[46:29] Ben Finer: Ben said what Ben said.

[46:31] Natalie: Okay. Could Leah, could Leah Michele, could we train Leah Michele to hit a whistle note?

[46:35] Ben Finer: No.

[46:36] Natalie: No.

[46:36] Ben Finer: That's out of her range.

[46:38] Natalie: She couldn't read the staff that goes that high.

[46:43] Ben Finer: Yes.

[46:44] Natalie: If she could do it, would we want her to do it?

[46:47] Ben Finer: I would be interested in. Oh my God, could you imagine like a video of her practicing that, rehearsing, like getting a whistle note?

[46:53] Natalie: That would be iconic content.

[46:56] Andrew: Um, thank you so much for being our Glistener this week. Where can all of the glisteners find your iconic TikTok, Instagram, all of your social media?

[47:09] Ben Finer: Thank you so much for having me on TikTok. I'm at notbfiner, N-O-T-B-F-I-N-E-R.

[47:17] Ben Finer: Okay. I'm also on Instagram at official Ben Finer, and I have a podcast with my sister called Pod Goals. You can find us anywhere podcasts are available at Pod Goals Pod.

[47:29] Andrew: Gleeks, we have our second Glistener of the episode, Natalie. Before we even get into talking with her, I feel like we need to read her submission form.

[47:40] Andrew: Also, if you want to be on the podcast, all you need to do is go to our Google form, submit this application. But Natalie's stood out to me.

[47:49] Andrew: Okay, this is her entire essay. I am maybe the most opinionated Glee fan derogatory. As you may know from me getting all up in your Instagram DMs, I would say I disagree with maybe two of the three of your choices. I've read a Glee fanfic in the last 24 hours in the Lord's year of 2022. It's Clain, look, the show fucked them up so bad, I just have to try and fix it in my brain. I love a good unpopular opinion. I don't believe the Unholy Trinity were actually friends, and the show was just gaslighting us into thinking that they were. I'm a season four and kind of a season six apologist. Episode 605, I need to hear about that, is one of Glee's best episodes. Everyone just doesn't know what good television is.

Um, I didn't hate the double wedding, but I don't believe Santana would let Kurt do that. There is no good part of Twick. I cannot understand why people ship them. Blam is better than Clain, and so on. On the bad side, I am a blind defender until death to an unnecessary degree, but I also acknowledge that he's boring and makes questionable choices. At this point, I might as well be a Glee podcast fan more than the show. Um, my week is set out by which podcasts I can listen to. Also, I'm British and I have a Yorkshire accent, so that's fun, I guess.

[48:59] Andrew: And I think it is fun. Um, so Natalie, hi, take us through those opinions.

[49:05] Natalie: Um, okay. I did write that kind of a while ago. There are some things in there that I know people that will be annoyed at some of those now.

[49:13] Andrew: Okay.

[49:14] Natalie: But, uh, yeah, I literally watch the show through Blaine, essentially.

[49:19] Andrew: Okay.

[49:20] Natalie: I'll watch an episode he's not in, and I'm like, I don't know what this is. I've never seen the show, where is he?

[49:25] Andrew: Right.

[49:26] Natalie: Um, I identify with that.

[49:27] Andrew: Absolutely.

[49:28] Natalie: Um, and you know, I just think season six is high camp.

[49:33] Andrew: I think we're growing towards accepting that opinion in the Lord's year 2022.

[49:38] Natalie: I think we're reaching that because like when it aired, it didn't feel good, it didn't feel natural, but like now.

[49:45] Andrew: No, it feels nice.

[49:47] Natalie: I think binging it helps.

[49:49] Andrew: Yeah.

[49:50] Natalie: Because season five is my worst season.

[49:52] Andrew: Really?

[49:56] Natalie: Yep.

[49:56] Andrew: Oh yeah, absolutely.

[49:58] Natalie: 5B as opposed to like 5A, like the beginning of season five.

[50:01] Andrew: 5A is okay.

[50:02] Natalie: I can do it with 5A, but 5B, because I like Clain a lot. You probably can't tell them that I was slandering them, apparently. But I like Clain a lot.

[50:11] Andrew: Um, and that's not my favorite thing to watch with them.

[50:15] Natalie: Um, a lot of Blaine mental illness. I do love Blaine mental illness, but not the best Blaine mental illness.

[50:22] Andrew: Right.

[50:22] Natalie: Um, but like 605, banger episode, like what is that?

[50:29] Andrew: Remind me of Lincoln.

[50:32] Natalie: Um, part two.

[50:34] Andrew: Isn't that um Jigsu?

[50:36] Natalie: Jigsu.

[50:37] Ben Finer: Yes.

[50:37] Natalie: Right?

[50:37] Andrew: Yeah.

[50:38] Natalie: Yes. Very much so.

[50:40] Ben Finer: Um, like the best invitational set list, one of the best New Directions set lists ever.

[50:44] Natalie: I agree.

[50:45] Ben Finer: Like Clain stuck in a lift, fantastic.

[50:50] Natalie: The fact that no one seems massively concerned by it, and they're gone for several days. Fantastic.

[50:54] Ben Finer: Sam also gets hypnotized in that episode, right?

[50:59] Natalie: Sam gets hypnotized and steals Will's mail.

[51:02] Andrew: Right.

[51:04] Natalie: And Will is upset by this.

[51:06] Ben Finer: Wait, what is he doing with the mail?

[51:08] Natalie: Sue, I don't really remember. Sue like tells him to go do it, just so like, you know, like Will will get upset, and like Sam says it that Rachel told him to do it.

[51:19] Andrew: Oh, and that's like the drama.

[51:23] Natalie: Honestly, Sam Chord leaves my mind every day.

[51:26] Ben Finer: I agree.

[51:27] Natalie: So I would say so.

[51:28] Andrew: You know.

[51:29] Natalie: Um, that's probably most of the episode to be fair. It's not uh, it's not a packed one, but that's a strength.

[51:36] Ben Finer: I love ugly episodes where they know all their plot lines are and they're a train wreck, and it's great.

[51:41] Andrew: In our last episode, which has not been released yet, I think we have two songs from that episode.

[51:47] Natalie: We have two, Rock Lobster and Bitch.

[51:51] Andrew: I think that they're both, are they maybe?

[51:53] Natalie: Bitch is in part one.

[51:54] Andrew: The episode before.

[51:55] Natalie: Yeah. And I think Rock Lobster is also in the episode four.

[51:57] Andrew: I think it's the Wobblers and the New Directions set lists that are in part two.

[52:01] Natalie: I'm not confident.

[52:02] Andrew: That's my memory of it.

[52:05] Natalie: Um, I believe you.

[52:07] Andrew: But thanks.

[52:08] Natalie: And I could just straight up lie.

[52:11] Andrew: Yeah, that's my memory of it. And it is one of my most rewatched episodes of the show. So it's that on Prom Queen, be cool, apparently.

[52:19] Natalie: Blam is better than Clain.

[52:21] Andrew: Look, okay.

[52:24] Natalie: I love Clain. We've said this. I love Clain a lot. There's just something about the friendship between Blaine and Sam that makes me so emotional. Like it's like the most basic premise of it. The straight guy likes the gay guy.

[52:37] Andrew: Right.

[52:39] Natalie: And I'm like, we did it, amazing, crossing boundaries.

[52:43] Ben Finer: And they're both played by straight men.

[52:45] Natalie: And I love it.

[52:45] Ben Finer: They're both played by straight men.

[52:47] Natalie: Absolutely. They thought Cord Overstreet was a Trump supporter at one point.

[52:50] Ben Finer: And he had no fantastic.

[52:53] Natalie: But I just—

[52:55] Ben Finer: Wait, was he really?

[52:56] Natalie: I don't think it's a good one. There was a rumor that he was, and then Kevin McHale came out and said, no, he isn't.

[53:00] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[53:00] Natalie: Yeah.

[53:00] Ben Finer: Okay.

[53:01] Natalie: Um, like filing voters, yeah.

[53:05] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[53:06] Natalie: And it's right for that.

[53:07] Ben Finer: Um, there's just something about I believe they like each other a lot. Because Glee friendships struggle because the show doesn't remember that they've set them up, apparently.

[53:17] Natalie: Yep.

[53:17] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[53:17] Natalie: But I think Blam are pretty consistently like strong, and like, you know, that scene in the first episode of season five.

[53:24] Andrew: No, is it in the last episode of season four?

[53:27] Natalie: It's all the same.

[53:28] Ben Finer: Right.

[53:28] Natalie: When they say I love you, and like, I don't know, they're quite supportive of each other's like bad decisions, and I think that's cute and funny.

[53:37] Natalie: And maybe it's just because I'm a queer person with a straight best friend.

[53:40] Andrew: Maybe I just want that.

[53:43] Natalie: I'm living through that.

[53:44] Andrew: Yeah.

[53:45] Natalie: Um, but I think that, well, what Glee did was like they recognized that Darren Criss had more chemistry with Cord Overstreet than he did with Chris Colfer and was like—

[53:56] Ben Finer: That's bold.

[53:58] Natalie: More chemistry as soon as it's true.

[54:00] Andrew: I mean, like, when was the last time that Darren Criss and Chris Colfer were even seen in the same room together?

[54:05] Natalie: But like Darren Criss and Corey—

[54:07] Ben Finer: What?

[54:08] Natalie: Don't do that.

[54:10] Ben Finer: I don't think that's their fault. I think it's a big part of the internet's fault that they—

[54:11] Natalie: Oh, you think so?

[54:18] Ben Finer: The Chris Colfer shippers, yeah. I'm sure they're not like best friends in real life, but I imagine they would talk to each other more if people went like, take a picture together.

[54:26] Natalie: Kiss.

[54:27] Ben Finer: Yeah, kiss in real life.

[54:28] Natalie: Remember when you had sex?

[54:30] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[54:31] Natalie: TV.

[54:32] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[54:34] Natalie: That is fair. I loved your take about Unholy Trinity. Even though they're iconic, we are being gaslit into believing that they're friends.

[54:45] Ben Finer: Quinn is like, who are these women?

[54:47] Natalie: They're just around me.

[54:49] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[54:59] Unknown Speaker: She doesn't know what's going on.

[55:01] Unknown Speaker: No.

[55:01] Unknown Speaker: Um doesn't seem to care by the end of the series.

[55:05] Unknown Speaker: Yeah.

[55:06] Unknown Speaker: No.

[55:06] Unknown Speaker: It's like it's kind of like it's kind of like Finn and Puck, but I believe that more.

[55:10] Unknown Speaker: Like they have a few Finn and Puck moments where it's like, yeah, they're friends.

[55:14] Unknown Speaker: And like a lot of the, you know, they have like set out fights, whereas the Unholy Trinity are just consistently like, guys, we're really good friends.

[55:20] Unknown Speaker: We sing one number together a season.

[55:23] Unknown Speaker: Yep.

[55:23] Unknown Speaker: And it's like, okay.

[55:25] Unknown Speaker: Yeah.

[55:25] Unknown Speaker: I think that what they're doing with like the Unholy Trinity is simply like not queer baiting, but like cheer baiting, you know?

[55:25] Unknown Speaker: Cheer baiting.

[55:34] Unknown Speaker: We're getting like the numbers, but it's not really built on anything.

[55:38] Unknown Speaker: Like what was like what was Toxic even built on?

[55:41] Unknown Speaker: It's great, but it's not a good thing.

[55:43] Unknown Speaker: In fact, Toxic was built on Britannia as well.

[55:45] Unknown Speaker: The whole point is that Santana's like, Brittany, we're gonna get you to do this number.

[55:49] Unknown Speaker: It's gonna be amazing.

[55:50] Unknown Speaker: And then Quinn is just merely present.

[55:52] Unknown Speaker: But I'm glad she is, she looks amazing, but um I don't believe it.

[55:52] Unknown Speaker: I don't believe it.

[55:58] Unknown Speaker: Don't believe it.

[56:00] Andrew: Do you have any hot takes on our podcast?

[56:03] Allison: Any decisions?

[56:04] Natalie: I'm so glad you asked.

[56:05] Allison: That you hate, that you love.

[56:07] Natalie: Let's let's go find I made a notes app.

[56:10] Allison: Good.

[56:10] Natalie: Let's go find this.

[56:11] Natalie: Okay, there's quite a lot on here, and some of them are probably quite petty.

[56:14] Natalie: I will start with the one that I was most recently mad about up in the DMs, Against Our Lords, Take a Look at Me Now, losing to the Fox.

[56:23] Allison: Okay.

[56:25] Andrew: I just explained this in our intro that the Gleeks hated that.

[56:29] Allison: The Gleeks hated that.

[56:30] Natalie: I what I will say, Michael Olivier, very persuasive.

[56:35] Allison: Yeah, I did see that.

[56:36] Natalie: I very much did see that.

[56:37] Natalie: Um I still think it was criminal and wrong that there wasn't even a suggestion of it going through.

[56:46] Natalie: That is my favorite Blaine solo.

[56:47] Natalie: Blaine is my favorite character.

[56:49] Natalie: That was deep for me.

[56:50] Natalie: I was walking my dog.

[56:52] Natalie: It was a it was a long day.

[56:54] Natalie: I started crying when that song was playing on the Witch.

[56:58] Allison: Mm-hmm.

[56:59] Andrew: Really?

[57:00] Natalie: Interesting.

[57:01] Natalie: I feel like it's a niche.

[57:02] Allison: Yeah.

[57:03] Natalie: It's raw.

[57:04] Natalie: It's very live.

[57:06] Allison: Yeah.

[57:06] Natalie: It truly is.

[57:08] Natalie: It just like never landed for me for some reason.

[57:10] Allison: What's what is the appeal?

[57:11] Natalie: That it that it's raw and live.

[57:13] Natalie: I think I it's also in the hit episode Guilty Pleasures, which Sam and Blaine.

[57:19] Allison: It is.

[57:19] Natalie: But that just always hits for me.

[57:21] Natalie: I I like the song anyway.

[57:23] Natalie: I like the liveness of it.

[57:24] Natalie: It wasn't like originally, like 13-year-old me wasn't like bumping against all odds Gleecast version.

[57:30] Allison: Yeah.

[57:30] Natalie: But like, I think just over time, I was like, this one's cool.

[57:34] Natalie: And I just picked that one.

[57:36] Natalie: But I have I have several several others on here that I will.

[57:40] Natalie: I'll go for some of the the more hot takes, I think.

[57:43] Natalie: Uh Americano Dance Again beats silly love songs.

[57:47] Allison: No.

[57:50] Natalie: Wouldn't even consider it.

[57:51] Natalie: I was asked by a friend to bring up I'll stand by you beating I Wanna Hold Your Hand.

[57:55] Natalie: Um two people I know were very upset by that.

[57:58] Allison: Okay.

[58:00] Natalie: Um honestly, I think it was a pretty fair matchup, but I understand.

[58:03] Natalie: I think I would have come to the conclusion of I want to hold your hand, honestly.

[58:07] Allison: Okay.

[58:08] Natalie: I mean, you know us.

[58:09] Natalie: You know us.

[58:11] Natalie: A colo versus a follow.

[58:13] Natalie: Yeah.

[58:14] Natalie: Where's it gonna go?

[58:15] Natalie: Where's it gonna go?

[58:16] Natalie: It's anybody's game.

[58:17] Natalie: And neither one is really hitting, but um Ooh, that's that's a hot take.

[58:22] Natalie: That's a hot one is hitting is a hot take.

[58:24] Natalie: Well, I mean I think most people say both of them hit.

[58:24] Natalie: Both of them hit equally.

[58:29] Natalie: I think so.

[58:30] Natalie: I don't know.

[58:30] Natalie: I don't reach I mean, like I I would rather listen to I'll stand by you.

[58:34] Natalie: Sorry.

[58:34] Natalie: I I hear that.

[58:36] Natalie: Um I have heroes losing to a thousand miles just because I don't want to think about Sam Chill.

[58:43] Allison: Okay.

[58:44] Natalie: I just don't want to think about it.

[58:45] Natalie: Um she's not there losing to forget you.

[58:49] Natalie: What was wrong with that?

[58:50] Natalie: That was a hard one.

[58:51] Natalie: She's not there as my favorite Finn solo.

[58:53] Allison: Oh my god, wait, you're blow after blow.

[58:57] Natalie: I'm so sorry.

[58:59] Natalie: This podcast is hard for me.

[59:00] Natalie: Talking about 605, Fall Out of Love, lost for lost to more than words.

[59:04] Natalie: Um wait, which one lost some more than words?

[59:07] Natalie: All out of love.

[59:08] Natalie: Oh, I remember that.

[59:09] Natalie: Yes, yes, yes.

[59:10] Natalie: Yeah, that's a that's an absolute banger.

[59:12] Natalie: A lot of these are blam, looking back on it.

[59:14] Natalie: Wake me up before you go-go, lost two raise your glass, season five.

[59:18] Natalie: People did not like that.

[59:19] Allison: Yeah.

[59:20] Natalie: Yeah, I think if the season five-ness of it, I think if the fact that Glee thought it was doing such a a service to us by bringing back our favorite hits when really it wasn't.

[59:29] Allison: Right.

[59:30] Natalie: The hundredth episode doesn't make any sense to me.

[59:33] Allison: Mean me neither.

[59:34] Natalie: But it had some bangers.

[59:35] Natalie: Not top one of them, but it had some bangers.

[59:39] Natalie: And okay, I have two more that I I think are ones that I was very heeded by.

[59:44] Allison: Okay.

[59:45] Natalie: Um Beauty School dropout lost it's a man's man's man's world.

[59:48] Natalie: Okay.

[59:49] Natalie: For this pod I'm gonna say for this podcast, I understand why that happened.

[59:53] Natalie: But for me.

[59:54] Natalie: I hated that.

[59:57] Allison: Yeah.

[59:57] Natalie: You're right, and you should say it.

[59:59] Natalie: You're right.

[1:00:00] Natalie: Yeah, I I should.

[1:00:01] Natalie: You're right.

[1:00:01] Natalie: Um but this one, I'm wrong.

[1:00:03] Natalie: Um American Boy lost to my life.

[1:00:07] Natalie: I think American Boy is an underrated banger.

[1:00:10] Natalie: They did a great job.

[1:00:11] Natalie: I can't believe that was that really the competition.

[1:00:14] Natalie: That's I hope I didn't get it wrong.

[1:00:16] Allison: No, oh my god, that sounds right.

[1:00:19] Natalie: I believe that, but that's sick when you say it out loud like that.

[1:00:22] Allison: Yeah.

[1:00:24] Natalie: Thinking about those two stuff.

[1:00:27] Allison: Yeah.

[1:00:28] Natalie: American Boy, I don't know.

[1:00:30] Natalie: American Boy and Story of My Life.

[1:00:32] Natalie: That's the era of Clay.

[1:00:35] Allison: Is that 5B?

[1:00:36] Natalie: That's 5B.

[1:00:37] Natalie: I don't.

[1:00:38] Natalie: Yeah, like I can't even think about it.

[1:00:41] Allison: Oh, I agree with Story of My Life.

[1:00:43] Allison: Story of My Life is worse than Candles for me.

[1:00:46] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:00:46] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:00:47] Natalie: Terrible.

[1:00:47] Natalie: Really not good.

[1:00:49] Natalie: Maybe a little one direction phase though.

[1:00:50] Natalie: One direction was strong.

[1:00:52] Allison: So.

[1:00:52] Natalie: Yeah, me too.

[1:00:53] Natalie: Same here.

[1:00:54] Natalie: Um, I don't know.

[1:00:56] Natalie: That's like picking two bad things.

[1:01:01] Natalie: I didn't like either of them.

[1:01:03] Allison: Yeah.

[1:01:05] Andrew: We need to.

[1:01:08] Andrew: Instead of doing like a like a glee rewatch podcast, we should have a Gleek of the Week podcast re-listen podcast.

[1:01:16] Allison: Where we like talk about like where we went wrong.

[1:01:19] Andrew: In ten years.

[1:01:20] Andrew: The crimes that we can do.

[1:01:21] Andrew: Re-listen to all of our episodes and be like, this is why we were wrong.

[1:01:26] Allison: I feel like I've just been shot, honestly, Natalie.

[1:01:29] Allison: Um in the best way possible.

[1:01:33] Allison: Like I am at a loss of words because you have so many hot takes.

[1:01:38] Allison: I'm like, wow, sometimes I feel like we're just like recording these and then putting them out onto the ether, but it's really affecting families.

[1:01:46] Allison: And it's breaking people down.

[1:01:48] Allison: It's breaking people's hearts.

[1:01:49] Allison: Like the fact that you said your favorite follow and favorite blow-low.

[1:01:52] Allison: Like, I'm like, I can't how can I do that to someone?

[1:01:55] Natalie: I'm so sorry.

[1:01:57] Natalie: Look, it happens with all the glee podcasts.

[1:02:00] Natalie: When I get to a glee rewatch podcast, and it's an episode I love and they don't like it.

[1:02:04] Natalie: I'm like, this is hitting.

[1:02:06] Natalie: This is yeah, yeah.

[1:02:07] Natalie: Absolutely.

[1:02:08] Natalie: But I never give up on them.

[1:02:09] Natalie: I have to you've got to stick it there.

[1:02:11] Natalie: And that's why you're here.

[1:02:12] Natalie: You're strong.

[1:02:13] Natalie: Your voice heard.

[1:02:14] Natalie: You're strong.

[1:02:15] Allison: Wow.

[1:02:16] Allison: Thank you for doing that.

[1:02:17] Allison: Um, are we ready for our first song?

[1:02:20] Andrew: Yeah, what are we projecting?

[1:02:23] Natalie: We don't want to turn it on.

[1:02:26] Natalie: Um, you know, any blind feature at all I'll probably be like partial to.

[1:02:32] Allison: Okay.

[1:02:33] Natalie: Um, have we had Kowat May yet?

[1:02:35] Allison: No.

[1:02:36] Natalie: No, that would be big.

[1:02:37] Natalie: That would be that I would stop crying on the podcast.

[1:02:41] Natalie: I would have a lot to say about that.

[1:02:43] Allison: I I pulled our song.

[1:02:47] Allison: Here it is.

[1:02:51] ♪ Musical number: "Lucky" — performed by Quinn and Sam ♪

[1:04:31] Andrew: So freaking charming.

[1:04:38] Allison: So freaking charming.

[1:04:40] Andrew: So charming.

[1:04:41] Andrew: Um, Quinn and Sam.

[1:04:43] Andrew: Natalie, what are your first feelings about this?

[1:04:47] Natalie: My first thought is this Shaw did win the Jox competition.

[1:04:53] Natalie: I sure did.

[1:04:54] Natalie: It shouldn't have.

[1:04:56] Natalie: No, but it did.

[1:04:57] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:04:58] Natalie: Um I'm proud of it for that.

[1:05:00] Natalie: You know.

[1:05:01] Natalie: Um.

[1:05:02] Natalie: My other thought is Sam.

[1:05:06] Natalie: I forget Sam changed so much.

[1:05:10] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:05:10] Natalie: Throughout the show, in my opinion.

[1:05:12] Natalie: Maybe people don't agree with that.

[1:05:13] Natalie: But boy, that's a different map.

[1:05:16] Natalie: That's a fully different person.

[1:05:17] Allison: Yep.

[1:05:18] Allison: I just watched a TikTok about something called the Flanderization.

[1:05:24] Allison: Um in meet like TV shows.

[1:05:28] Allison: And it's where something, a characteristic about a character in a TV show starts off as very subtle, and then by the end of the series, it is all that they are.

[1:05:40] Allison: Like Flanders at first is just like kind of annoying and religious, but by the end, he's a freaking model of annoying people and neighbors in general.

[1:05:51] Allison: And I think that's what happens with Sam.

[1:05:54] Allison: Is that at first he's just new, he's not very smart, but then by the end of the series, he is big dum dumb, want gum gum.

[1:06:04] Allison: Like he wants he has no thoughts up here.

[1:06:07] Allison: Nothing.

[1:06:07] Allison: And I don't like it.

[1:06:09] Natalie: I don't even recall Caesar Tucson particularly being like dumb.

[1:06:13] Natalie: Maybe that's like a few lines where it was like he wasn't the brightest.

[1:06:18] Natalie: But like that was like not his like um defining quality like it was in later seasons.

[1:06:23] Allison: Yeah.

[1:06:23] Allison: They joked that like the sun in got it too into his scalp or something, or like the chemicals bleached his brain or whatever.

[1:06:30] Allison: But in terms of this song, the entire time I was like watching it, I was like, this hit so hard when it aired.

[1:06:30] Allison: Like this hit so hard, and like I heard this on the radio.

[1:06:40] Allison: Go on the radio.

[1:06:41] Allison: Like, like I would always like reach for it.

[1:06:43] Allison: And like I loved listening to Lucky Gleecast version by Glee Cast, but like I would I would never.

[1:06:49] Allison: I would I don't think I would ever reach for this now.

[1:06:52] Allison: And I feel bad.

[1:06:53] Allison: What happened, Lucky?

[1:06:55] Natalie: I think because I didn't, I obviously didn't watch the show when it was coming out.

[1:06:58] Natalie: I was like a child, child.

[1:06:59] Allison: Yeah.

[1:07:00] Natalie: Right.

[1:07:00] Natalie: But like compared to the child I am now.

[1:07:03] Natalie: But like I this never every time I've watched this episode, I've been like, yeah, but they sang the really exciting song, and Kurt sang the really exciting song.

[1:07:13] Natalie: Right.

[1:07:14] Natalie: And Quinn is putting her fingers on some chords.

[1:07:17] Natalie: And is that the reason they won?

[1:07:19] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:07:20] Natalie: I do remember why they won, by the way.

[1:07:21] Natalie: That made it sound like I I thought everyone voted for them.

[1:07:24] Natalie: I understand that Vinchilla like scheming.

[1:07:27] Natalie: Right.

[1:07:27] Natalie: But like, did they need to do that?

[1:07:29] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:07:30] Natalie: I mean, like, it makes sense like with the plot, like, I understand.

[1:07:32] Natalie: Everybody voted for themselves, and then Finchel was the only people that voted for Quinn and Sam.

[1:07:38] Natalie: I get it.

[1:07:39] Natalie: Still, does that does not make Riverdeep Mountain High okay with losing?

[1:07:44] Natalie: No.

[1:07:44] Natalie: Um I I would pick La Jazz Hot over this.

[1:07:47] Natalie: I think La Jazz.

[1:07:48] Natalie: Would you enter the banger?

[1:07:50] Natalie: Yeah, absolutely.

[1:07:50] Natalie: Really?

[1:07:51] Natalie: At least be going to breadsticks.

[1:07:53] Allison: That's true.

[1:07:54] Allison: Wait, so where did you stand a few weeks ago when um it was La Jazz Hot versus uh Christmas rapping?

[1:08:00] Natalie: We just talked about this in the beginning of this episode.

[1:08:02] Allison: Yeah.

[1:08:03] Natalie: Um not great.

[1:08:05] Natalie: Not great.

[1:08:06] Natalie: But like I like Christmas rapping a lot.

[1:08:08] Natalie: I'm not sure I'm ever gonna reach for the Glee Cast version, but if I'm watching the episode, I'm not gonna skip it.

[1:08:13] Allison: Okay, okay.

[1:08:13] Natalie: I mean it's only like a 30-second number, so you're it is.

[1:08:17] Natalie: And I love that episode.

[1:08:18] Natalie: I'm a known extraordinary Merry Christmas staff.

[1:08:20] Allison: Okay, okay.

[1:08:21] Natalie: Oh so I understand that, but like Kurt came to Slay on that day, and he did.

[1:08:26] Natalie: He really did.

[1:08:27] Natalie: I didn't know that was like a popular.

[1:08:29] Natalie: I'm never gonna really pick a Britney song.

[1:08:31] Natalie: Not in about Britney Stans don't come for me.

[1:08:33] Natalie: Like she's great, but like just some of her songs.

[1:08:37] Natalie: If she's not bringing, bringing, bringing, I'm not gonna think about it as much as I'm gonna think about Kurt doing La Jazz Hot.

[1:08:45] Andrew: Okay, okay. That makes sense. I didn't know that like "La Jazz Hot" landed. For some reason, I just like assumed that it didn't land with hardly anybody, but I was mistaken.

[1:08:54] Ben Finer: No, it truly did. I think about it every day. I'm an idiot. Um, anything else about "Lucky"?

[1:09:01] Natalie: Um, I do recall that they go to Breadsticks. Um, Quinn doesn't let Sam use the voucher, which I think is very wild of her.

[1:09:11] Joe: So rude, considering we find out later in the season that he is homeless.

[1:09:16] Ben Finer: Oh my god. Let him use the gift card, mama.

[1:09:19] Natalie: Yeah, I know. Also, I don't know. Because like also Brittany's like sitting by herself behind them.

[1:09:28] Andrew: And it's like at least Quinn be like, here Brittany, take this. Make us understand that these two people are friends with each other.

[1:09:37] Ben Finer: I don't know.

[1:09:38] Natalie: But they're not friends.

[1:09:40] Joe: Yeah, I don't. It was just such a... and then she just, she kept it, she pursed it.

[1:09:44] Ben Finer: I don't know. Yeah, she was like, "No, I'm not using this with you, yeah, but I'll use it in my personal life."

[1:09:50] Andrew: Right, right, right. Okay. I feel like "Lucky" could really hit or miss.

[1:09:57] Natalie: Uh, yeah, absolutely. Depending on what's coming through that cut.

[1:10:01] Andrew: Okay. Um, I don't know. This really could, this could be... this could be a conversation.

[1:10:08] Joe: Oh gosh. It's a season one song.

[1:10:13] Natalie: There we go. We know what it is from the first frame.

[1:10:16] Andrew: Oh, we do. We do.

[1:10:21] Joe: Don't even make me think that.

[1:10:23] Natalie: Apparently it is.

[1:10:24] Ben Finer: I think it is.

[1:10:27] Andrew: You got a real type of thing going down and down. There's a whole lot of rhythm going round.

[1:10:35] Joe: You got a real type of thing going down and down. There's a whole lot of rhythm going round.

[1:10:45] Natalie: We want the money. We gotta have that funk. We want the fun. Here but the funk. We need the fun. We gotta have that funk.

[1:11:03] Andrew: And the nana do it, death. We don't turn this mother out of the... We don't turn this mother out.

[1:11:28] Ben Finer: We'll turn this mother out.

[1:11:44] Natalie: You got a real type of thing going down and down. There's a whole lot of rhythm going around.

[1:11:53] Joe: You got a real type of thing going down and down. There's a whole lot of rhythm going round.

[1:12:45] Andrew: We want the funk. Give up the funk. We need the funk. Give the fun. We want the funk. Give up the funk. We need the funk. We want the fun. Give up the fun. We need the fun.

[1:12:45] Ben Finer: So you folks' originals. Soulless automatons. How do we feel?

[1:13:11] Natalie: Give up the funk. I thought this would be a harder competition than it's not.

[1:13:11] Joe: I don't think it is. What are we thinking, Natalie?

[1:13:33] Natalie: Honestly. I enjoyed it more than I expected to for the first frame. Um, I don't often revisit the song.

[1:13:33] Andrew: Okay. But also, do I often revisit "Lucky"? No.

[1:13:33] Natalie: No. Um, but boy, that is an episode of Glee. Um, it's in the show.

[1:13:33] Joe: I will say, before I talk about "Give Up the Funk," it is wrong and criminal that I didn't get a song from Blaine's era.

[1:13:33] Ben Finer: He isn't in the show in either of these seasons.

[1:13:33] Natalie: In either of these. He was not born yet.

[1:13:33] Joe: He wasn't even brought up.

[1:13:33] Natalie: He wasn't even born yet.

[1:13:33] Ben Finer: No. They probably hadn't even thought of him in "Bad Jew."

[1:13:31] Natalie: No. Season 2. Wild.

[1:13:33] Joe: Yeah. No.

[1:13:33] Andrew: Um, but anyway, I enjoyed it more than I thought I would.

[1:13:38] Natalie: I, yeah, I think so too. Love this. There, I have so many thoughts.

[1:13:43] Ben Finer: Diana Agron is in her bag with this song. We could set aside like 20 minutes just to talk about Diana Agron.

[1:13:51] Natalie: No!

[1:13:52] Joe: She is given 11 out of 10 on this.

[1:13:57] Andrew: Like, what costs? And I understand that like this is like a big Quinn episode where it's like, okay, like I can be funky too. And then Mercedes was like, no, and then Mercedes was eventually like sure.

[1:14:11] Natalie: Yeah. And so then they do this number, and she gives birth the following week. Insane.

[1:14:18] Joe: And I think that it was probably induced by "Give Up the Funk."

[1:14:22] Andrew: Uh, yeah. Yeah.

[1:14:23] Natalie: I would. The baby was getting into position in this song.

[1:14:27] Joe: God, she did so much. With friendships that we forgot, friendships that Glee forgot, Mercedes and Quinn.

[1:14:35] Natalie: I will always come back to that.

[1:14:36] Joe: Yeah, I feel like we should play like Sarah McLaughlin music.

[1:14:39] Natalie: Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

[1:14:42] Andrew: All the Mercedes friendships as well.

[1:14:44] Natalie: Because Kirced seems to disappear.

[1:14:46] Joe: Yeah.

[1:14:47] Natalie: Because Rachel is apparently on the scene.

[1:14:50] Andrew: But like all the friendships to Rachel.

[1:14:52] Natalie: Yeah, where are all Mercedes' friends? Where did they go?

[1:14:55] Joe: And like even like Mercedes and Mike had like a few episodes where they were like friends together, and I'm like, yeah, I actually like this together.

[1:15:02] Natalie: I feel like they should have been endgame. That's a hot take.

[1:15:05] Joe: Mike Sadies, yeah.

[1:15:06] Natalie: Mike Sadies. I love them. I think they're cute.

[1:15:10] Andrew: This is a number where I'm not even seeing Lea Michele. I'm not even paying attention to where Rachel is.

[1:15:12] Joe: Mike does not end up with anybody at all.

[1:15:14] Natalie: That's criminal for him.

[1:15:16] Joe: But uh, Tina does propose to him.

[1:15:19] Ben Finer: Yeah, and then we can... I'm gonna do it.

[1:15:20] Natalie: Yeah, but she ends up with R2.

[1:15:22] Joe: Yeah.

[1:15:22] Ben Finer: Mike says, I'd rather have zero plot than a plot with you.

[1:15:27] Natalie: Then date you, Tina.

[1:15:29] Joe: That's not fine, the line, actually.

[1:15:30] Ben Finer: I mean, completely love it.

[1:15:32] Joe: Um, this is a number.

[1:15:38] Joe: I know, but I don't even believe that. Like, I don't even need it, um, which is great for season one.

[1:15:44] Natalie: I, in the studio version, they don't do the sped up part.

[1:15:49] Andrew: Really?

[1:15:52] Natalie: They don't go really fast.

[1:15:56] Joe: I don't know.

[1:15:58] Andrew: Gleeks. This is Allison of several days after the recording. Um, post-production Andrew is gonna insert this in.

[1:16:09] Allison: I lied. I bold-faced lied to you all. They do have the sped up part in the Spotify and Apple Music version of "Give Up the Funk." Um, but it's at the very end of like a three to four-minute long song that's just the same ten words over and over, so I tend to skip it.

[1:16:34] Allison: Um, so yeah, I lied. They do have that part in there. Um, feel free to revoke my Gleek card. This is um me logging off permanently from the podcast. I am I'm no longer allowed to be a Gleek, but I do love the studio version. I will play it up in uh in my workplace.

[1:16:55] Joe: I don't believe that to be Chris Colfer's voice. If it is, I want video proof.

[1:17:00] Natalie: I read somewhere that he said that it was him.

[1:17:03] Joe: I think we didn't. Like I read a thing of him being like, "Yeah, that's me."

[1:17:06] Andrew: Listen up, people. I recall it. How is he reaching that tone?

[1:17:11] Natalie: I don't know. I don't think he's talented.

[1:17:13] Joe: Nikki Anderson, the Glee Project is like at her computer, like da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

[1:17:18] Andrew: And she's altering the voice, and she's got it.

[1:17:21] Natalie: I believe it's him. I would rather believe it is than believe it wasn't. So that's the side which I take.

[1:17:29] Joe: Because I feel like there's probably someone in the cast that would have feasibly made more sense to sing that note.

[1:17:37] Natalie: I guess like Puck. I don't know. Maybe.

[1:17:39] Andrew: I would have heard that.

[1:17:41] Joe: Yeah. But they gave it to Kurt, and I choose to believe it.

[1:17:47] Andrew: Okay. Yeah.

[1:17:49] Joe: The mother sucker.

[1:17:50] Natalie: Mother sucker. He likes things about mothers.

[1:17:54] Joe: Motherfucky turkey lucky time.

[1:17:56] Natalie: Oh, mother's mother. Mother.

[1:17:59] Andrew: Um, what else? Oh, we get the um, the Naya dance. I love the when Santana comes out and they're doing the line dance, she does the little Naya dance. I love seeing that in there.

[1:18:12] Natalie: Um, yeah, I don't know. I thought this would be a much harder competition when I initially pulled it, but I think I like this so much more.

[1:18:18] Joe: I think there's something about like people think so highly of "Lucky." Like, people are still talking about "Lucky" today. I don't know why, but they are.

[1:18:26] Natalie: Like, maybe it's like the start. Do people like them together? I don't, I haven't seen it, but I'm sure someone does.

[1:18:34] Andrew: Quam?

[1:18:35] Natalie: No, that's for Brevens.

[1:18:38] Joe: I think.

[1:18:38] Natalie: I want to call them Heaven, so then I realized that was Kurt.

[1:18:41] Andrew: Yeah. Is there wait? The name for Brevens makes me think of a pancake house.

[1:18:49] Joe: Is there a breakfast restaurant in the United States called Brevens?

[1:18:55] Natalie: Called...

[1:18:56] Joe: I think it...

[1:18:58] Natalie: I think.

[1:19:00] Andrew: No, nothing is coming up when I search for Brevin's, the spelling that is canon for Glee on Google Maps.

[1:19:07] Joe: I'm seeing it in my head. Um, a restaurant.

[1:19:14] Natalie: Okay, wait. American breakfast restaurant Evans.

[1:19:25] Joe: No.

[1:19:25] Natalie: Why am I cra...

[1:19:25] Joe: Bob Evans.

[1:19:29] Natalie: Bob Evans restaurant.

[1:19:31] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:19:32] Natalie: Reminds me of Fabrevans.

[1:19:34] Joe: So that's why I don't like it.

[1:19:35] Natalie: That Faberi, obvious like Rachel and Quinn.

[1:19:39] Joe: Sure.

[1:19:40] Natalie: Fabry is a horse cart, I think, actually.

[1:19:45] Joe: I feel like I remember this from the canon that like one day someone discovered that like a Faberi is like an actual thing.

[1:19:52] Natalie: A thing. Yeah, that exists.

[1:19:56] Andrew: I mean, have we talked about the old Heavens ship name? That they... because it got changed to Heavens.

[1:20:03] Joe: Kurt and Sam.

[1:20:06] Natalie: Would it be?

[1:20:07] Andrew: It is. I'm not even...

[1:20:08] Joe: Yeah.

[1:20:09] Natalie: Cam.

[1:20:11] Andrew: Cert.

[1:20:13] Joe: Wait, Allison, are you not hearing me? I said I just said it twice.

[1:20:17] Natalie: I'm not.

[1:20:19] Joe: It's the first two letters of Kurt.

[1:20:21] Andrew: Of course.

[1:20:22] Joe: In the last letter of Sam.

[1:20:27] Natalie: Are people more sincerely like, yes, this is my ship? And it's like because like fuck is fun, you know, for fit and puck.

[1:20:35] Joe: That's like, uh-huh. Like that's weird.

[1:20:38] Natalie: That's like to a weird extent. It's like come and go, the um guest stations.

[1:20:45] Andrew: Yeah, we don't have those, and I think it's very exciting when I hear anyone talk about them.

[1:20:49] Natalie: I know like Heavens and this other ship name. They're that's a very popular ship. People really like Kurt and Sam together.

[1:21:00] Joe: Wow.

[1:21:00] Natalie: They do, and I exactly. Exactly. Like I think it's just from "Jouet," you know, when Sam's like he sings good and I think he's cool.

[1:21:08] Joe: Yeah.

[1:21:08] Natalie: And like, I understand that. But when Kurt has so many other and Sam, just so many other great options. I can't imagine being like, this is my ride or die.

[1:21:19] Andrew: I mean, Sam kisses every girl in the series.

[1:21:23] Joe: Yeah.

[1:21:23] Natalie: Sam kisses. I understand not wanting to ship Sam with a woman. I hear that.

[1:21:27] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:21:28] Natalie: But then Blaine's right there.

[1:21:30] Joe: I know.

[1:21:31] Natalie: Blam.

[1:21:33] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:21:33] Joe: I'm into it.

[1:21:35] Natalie: So it's "Give Up the Funk" all around. Or am I wrong?

[1:21:39] Joe: Yeah. I feel bad because like the past few weeks, like we have not been fighting at all. We've just been getting along.

[1:21:44] Natalie: I know. We need to be meaner to each other.

[1:21:49] Andrew: I know. What will that take? Natalie, we ask all of our guests this, our favorite question. If Glee was still on in the year of our Lord 2022, what are they singing?

[1:22:03] Natalie: Well, I think, and maybe this is just because we could have had it on the show and we didn't. I think they would have had a pop girlies week.

[1:22:12] Andrew: Okay.

[1:22:13] Natalie: Just for pop girlies. Because I guess for now you can have like Olivia Rodrigo, Taylor Swift, obviously, she like dominates Katy Perry. We can have more Katy Perry songs than Glee.

[1:22:31] Natalie: No, but that it is.

[1:22:32] Ben Finer: It is.

[1:22:33] Natalie: We can bring back Lady Gaga, even though she has like two episodes.

[1:22:35] Joe: That's fine.

[1:22:36] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:22:37] Ben Finer: You know, just like any.

[1:22:39] Natalie: Or we can go like the gay side, we can go Charlie XX.

[1:22:42] Joe: We can get the sad girlies, Phoebe Bridgers.

[1:22:44] Natalie: Yeah. That'd be great.

[1:22:45] Ben Finer: You know.

[1:22:47] Natalie: Claire.

[1:22:48] Ben Finer: Let's let's do them all.

[1:22:50] Natalie: You know what they would have sang? They would have sang "Funeral" by Phoebe Bridgers.

[1:22:54] Joe: And it would have lived in my fucking head.

[1:22:56] Natalie: It would have had horrific context though.

[1:22:58] Joe: They would have listened to the song and been like, okay, this is about someone singing at someone's funeral who is their age.

[1:23:03] Natalie: Yeah. Let's write it in the show.

[1:23:05] Ben Finer: Someone's gonna die.

[1:23:06] Natalie: And like Rachel is gonna be like, oh my god, I'm their age. I have to sing this.

[1:23:09] Joe: I have to sing this.

[1:23:10] Natalie: Someone that she doesn't even know.

[1:23:13] Ben Finer: Yeah, absolutely.

[1:23:15] Natalie: She gets hired as like a funeral singer.

[1:23:18] Joe: Did they sing "Dark Horse" on this show?

[1:23:21] Natalie: No.

[1:23:22] Ben Finer: No.

[1:23:22] Natalie: Okay, good.

[1:23:24] Ben Finer: Because that's good.

[1:23:26] Natalie: I feel like that would have been an Artie Kitty duet.

[1:23:29] Joe: No, it would have been Marley.

[1:23:31] Natalie: You think so?

[1:23:32] Ben Finer: It's Artie and someone though.

[1:23:34] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:23:34] Joe: Artie?

[1:23:35] Ben Finer: Well, because like who's the who? He's doing the Jeffrey Dahmer rap part?

[1:23:39] Natalie: Yeah, Jeffrey Dahmer.

[1:23:40] Joe: Who's in that song?

[1:23:41] Natalie: Who's in "Dark Horse"?

[1:23:42] Ben Finer: Juicy J.

[1:23:43] Natalie: Juicy J.

[1:23:45] Ben Finer: Okay.

[1:23:45] Natalie: I don't know where that came from.

[1:23:47] Joe: Don't know why you knew that.

[1:23:48] Natalie: Wait, yeah, you just got possessed for a second.

[1:23:51] Joe: I was like, this is my moment.

[1:23:52] Natalie: Juicy J.

[1:23:53] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[1:23:54] Natalie: Guys. Um yeah, like I just think.

[1:23:57] Natalie: Because even like not so much the girls, because Marley was openly Swift phobic on this show, and that hurts me physically.

[1:24:05] Joe: But like wait, yeah, she did have what was the line that she said.

[1:24:08] Natalie: She says, like, she says she's written, you know, the best song in the world, you have more friends than you know, um and she's like yeah it's not about I'm not writing about my exes like Taylor Swift or something like that which I think is criminal and wrong because Marley is the most swiftly coded character that's an idea of this show.

[1:24:26] Ben Finer: Yeah and it's so real to me and also Blaine and Sam are also Swifties.

[1:24:31] Natalie: They hang out and they talk about Taylor Swift.

[1:24:33] Joe: Yeah literally I don't make the rules.

[1:24:34] Ben Finer: Oh I never said you did.

[1:24:33] Natalie: Um all right Natalie do you have any any further hot takes any any pressing glots that you need to get off your chest before before you go?

[1:24:51] Natalie: Yeah I think I I think I got a lot of my heart takes out yeah I just I was told by several people if I got any Kurt song that I had to fight for my life for it.

[1:25:01] Ben Finer: Yeah but that's we did put through the one with Kurt in it.

[1:25:06] Natalie: That's true. You're a woman of your word.

[1:25:07] Ben Finer: Yes another setup.

[1:25:08] Natalie: Yeah yeah so I did and where can the if they do have a problem with you or maybe if they want to praise you where can the glisteners um find your social gladia?

[1:25:07] Natalie: Um if the glisteners don't want to actively cyberbully me come find me at um I'm not K M on Everything N-A-T-K-A-Y-M I have a stamp to her but I'm not gonna share that because that's weird.

[1:25:38] Joe: Wait what are you what are you standing?

[1:25:39] Natalie: Oh Glee.

[1:25:40] Ben Finer: Oh it's it's just Glee.

[1:25:41] Natalie: Okay.

[1:25:41] Joe: Yeah.

[1:25:41] Natalie: Well I I have I'm having a bit of a heart stopper moment.

[1:25:45] Joe: Okay.

[1:25:45] Natalie: So if you a crossover post, maybe that'd be fun.

[1:25:48] Joe: GLART stopper.

[1:25:53] Natalie: I hate that that.

[1:25:54] Joe: I thought this one was my suggestion for songs they do now, but Glee doesn't touch the British hits.

[1:25:58] Natalie: No.

[1:25:59] Joe: No.

[1:26:00] Natalie: I think they had Ryan Murphy legally can't do that.

[1:26:03] Natalie: Yeah, he was like a Yeah, just the Beatles, actually.

[1:26:06] Joe: Just the Beatles are.

[1:26:10] Natalie: Yeah. Let's do 30 Beatles songs and call it a day.

[1:26:14] Ben Finer: Gleeks, our final glistener of this episode, Joe Hughes.

[1:26:19] Joe: Joe, how are you?

[1:26:21] Joe: I'm doing okay.

[1:26:23] Joe: But this has made my week, honestly, being here.

[1:26:26] Joe: So thank you.

[1:26:27] Ben Finer: I feel like context is important. This is a um 10:30 pushing 11 p.m. recording.

[1:26:33] Joe: Yes, yes.

[1:26:36] Ben Finer: But you you've been everywhere all over the world as a gleek.

[1:26:40] Joe: I have for some reason.

[1:26:41] Ben Finer: But we're making it work, and I love it.

[1:26:43] Joe: No. We are.

[1:26:44] Joe: Thank you. We really wanted to make it work to talk with you because you have a lot of hot takes about Glee and our podcast.

[1:26:50] Ben Finer: Wait, before we get into any hot takes about the podcast, what are your hot takes about Glee?

[1:26:57] Joe: Oh, okay. So this is the one answer I have prepared.

[1:27:01] Ben Finer: Okay.

[1:27:02] Joe: Because I found out when I listened to your episode where you pulled "Loser Like Me" that people are not a fan of it.

[1:27:10] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:27:11] Joe: I thought it was good.

[1:27:13] Ben Finer: Okay.

[1:27:13] Joe: Depend it. I would put it through. I feel like it was a success. Like it's not the best Glee song, obviously, but it was in the original songs episode, and it was a successful original song, I would say.

[1:27:27] Natalie: And not all of them were.

[1:27:31] Joe: We're talking about "Big Ass Heart" being not one of the ones that were the most successful.

[1:27:38] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:27:39] Joe: Um wait, yeah, I don't know, because I do not like "Loser Like Me."

[1:27:44] Natalie: I like the, you know, this is my hot take. I like the season five version better.

[1:27:49] Joe: Shut up!

[1:27:50] Natalie: Is that terrible of me to say?

[1:27:52] Joe: Shut up. Shut up. Get out. Log out of the Zoom now.

[1:27:56] Natalie: I think it sounds beautiful.

[1:27:58] Joe: No.

[1:27:59] Natalie: Is that one like slowed, stripped down version?

[1:28:03] Joe: Yeah, that's like like Tina, Artie, Sam, and Blaine, and they're all like gathered around a piano and singing about being pushed against the locker and washing cars and such forth.

[1:28:16] Natalie: No.

[1:28:17] Joe: I can't support it.

[1:28:18] Natalie: You can't support it, but you but you love those little combat boots that they the black statement belt.

[1:28:26] Joe: Yeah.

[1:28:27] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:28:30] Joe: Um, what about hot takes on our podcast? What do you think? What did you hate? What did you love?

[1:28:36] Joe: Yeah. Um, I don't know. I know that I love that you had Brooke Averick on the podcast, and I didn't even know. I'm a Patreon too. I must have missed that post.

[1:28:46] Natalie: Oh my god.

[1:28:47] Joe: I also listened to her Broken Connor make a podcast. I listened to a lot of podcasts.

[1:28:53] Natalie: Well, not a lot. I just re-listened to a few.

[1:28:56] Joe: This one being one of them.

[1:28:58] Natalie: Brooke and Connor make a podcast being one of the others.

[1:29:03] Joe: Um I'm not sure if I can remember any hot takes about the podcast itself. It's there's a lot.

[1:29:11] Natalie: There are competitions that I've already forgotten about.

[1:29:15] Joe: Yeah.

[1:29:16] Joe: Like, oh, I see. It's really hard to keep track at this point.

[1:29:20] Ben Finer: That have happened today.

[1:29:22] Joe: Um, but Joe, I want to take you through the competitions that we've already had today, and just check your gauge on um what you had, you know, voted for had you been given the opportunity.

[1:29:33] Joe: Okay.

[1:29:33] Ben Finer: So the the first competition of this episode was um "An Innocent Man" versus "Hell to the No."

[1:29:40] Joe: Oh, okay.

[1:29:42] Joe: And your vote would be "Hell to the No."

[1:29:45] Joe: It would be "Hell to the No."

[1:29:46] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[1:29:47] Joe: I feel like the competitions have just been like so easy lately.

[1:29:51] Natalie: Landslips.

[1:29:53] Joe: And then the second competition, I'm already blanking.

[1:29:55] Natalie: Wait, what was the one with Natalie?

[1:29:57] Joe: It was "Lucky," Sam and Quinn duet versus "Give Up the Funk."

[1:30:05] Natalie: Season one.

[1:30:06] Joe: Oh god. Um I like actually can't really recall either of those performances.

[1:30:13] Joe: So I'll sing "Give Up the Funk." I'll sing "Give Up the Funk," and Andrew will sing "Lucky."

[1:30:18] Joe: Uh "Give Up the Funk" is uh give up the funk. You gotta have that funk now.

[1:30:25] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:30:25] Joe: And then "Lucky" is like, do you hear me? I'm talking to you across the water.

[1:30:34] Natalie: That one.

[1:30:35] Joe: Um yeah, that's really not actually ringing a bell.

[1:30:39] Natalie: But I definitely would have liked it.

[1:30:41] Joe: Oh my god. Wait, I don't know. Is this a bit?

[1:30:43] Natalie: No.

[1:30:45] Joe: I haven't watched if it's when was it when was that song in the show?

[1:30:49] Natalie: "Lucky" was on Glee's best album, maybe quite possibly the best album of all time. Glee: The Music, Volume Four, the blue one.

[1:31:00] Joe: I um I don't know. I can't remember.

[1:31:02] Natalie: That's how they they won the duets competition.

[1:31:04] Joe: Jason Mraz, Colbie Caillat.

[1:31:07] Natalie: Yes.

[1:31:09] Joe: Joe, you're just I need to study up.

[1:31:11] Joe: I need to study up.

[1:31:12] Natalie: What the hell is your sweet?

[1:31:15] Joe: I'm off, I'm off.

[1:31:16] Natalie: You're off.

[1:31:17] Joe: Okay, he's busy.

[1:31:18] Natalie: A busy little dude.

[1:31:20] Joe: My apologies.

[1:31:22] Joe: Do you have favorite performances? Anything you're projecting to come out of these slushy cups?

[1:31:29] Joe: Um I was trying to figure this out. Um I don't know. I was trying I can't tell if I want like a landslide, like a really good one versus a throwaway one. Or if I want it to be a uh a thought-provoking competition.

[1:31:48] Natalie: So I don't know. I think I want definitely one of those like chart topping ones, the really good ones.

[1:31:54] Joe: But I can't remember which ones have already been pulled.

[1:31:57] Natalie: Wait, so you like "Loser Like Me," but how do you feel about "Light Up the World"? Where does that fall?

[1:32:03] Joe: It it didn't, it didn't have the same. It didn't have the same impact.

[1:32:07] Natalie: That wasn't played on the radio, was it?

[1:32:11] Joe: Not in the same way "Loser Like Me" was.

[1:32:13] Natalie: No.

[1:32:14] Joe: No.

[1:32:14] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:32:14] Joe: Didn't hit the center.

[1:32:16] Natalie: It didn't light up the charts.

[1:32:18] Joe: That's true.

[1:32:18] Natalie: That it did not.

[1:32:20] Joe: I want two chart toppers so that we fight over good songs so we can have both of what you want, Joe.

[1:32:28] Joe: Okay.

[1:32:29] Joe: Okay. I like it.

[1:32:30] Natalie: I want to pull "Somewhere We Go Sometimes" versus "I'm Not Gonna Teach Your Boyfriend How to Dance with You."

[1:32:37] Joe: Wow, you and destruction.

[1:32:38] Joe: I think I think I'll log out. I think I'll quit the podcast if that's a competition.

[1:32:43] Natalie: But you're you're projecting something that's going to make you rage quit.

[1:32:47] Joe: Yeah, exactly.

[1:32:50] Natalie: Um any any further glee thoughts that you just need to get off my glassed.

[1:32:59] Joe: But I did find out from your podcast about how they were supposed to do like multiple scripted movies, right?

[1:33:07] Natalie: Yes.

[1:33:08] Joe: That they didn't end up doing.

[1:33:10] Natalie: That was new information to me, and I'm quite upset we never got to see those, to be honest.

[1:33:15] Joe: I would have loved. Like an abroad.

[1:33:18] Natalie: Yes, yes.

[1:33:19] Joe: Glee abroad, glee in Paris.

[1:33:22] Natalie: Glaris.

[1:33:24] Joe: That would be so good.

[1:33:26] Natalie: We need to see it.

[1:33:26] Joe: We need to see it.

[1:33:27] Natalie: And the fact that it was in the contract, I have no idea how any contract works, but I'm like, I mean, like if it was in the contract, why didn't it get done?

[1:33:35] Joe: And does it mean that it will still get done potentially?

[1:33:39] Natalie: Ryan Murphy can still pull those strings. Be like, nope, glee movie now.

[1:33:44] Joe: Right now.

[1:33:46] Natalie: Okay, I have the first song of our episode. Andrew, can you give me permission to share my screen?

[1:33:50] Andrew: Oh, of course.

[1:33:52] Natalie: There you go. I'm so nervous.

[1:33:54] Joe: A Mursolo.

[1:33:56] Natalie: A Mercolo.

[1:33:57] Joe: Our second versal of the episode.

[1:33:59] Natalie: Okay.

[1:34:06] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:34:10] Natalie: Every day is so wonderful.

[1:34:15] Natalie: And suddenly it's hard to breathe.

[1:34:23] Natalie: Now and then I get insecure from all the pain.

[1:34:30] Natalie: I'm so ashamed.

[1:34:35] Natalie: I am beautiful.

[1:34:37] Natalie: No matter what they say.

[1:34:41] Natalie: Words can't bring me down.

[1:34:48] Natalie: I am beautiful in every single way.

[1:34:53] Natalie: Yes, words can't bring me down.

[1:34:58] Natalie: Oh no.

[1:35:01] Natalie: So don't you bring me down today?

[1:35:06] Natalie: No matter what we do.

[1:35:09] Natalie: No matter what we say.

[1:35:31] Natalie: No matter what they say.

[1:35:34] Natalie: Yes, words won't bring us down.

[1:35:39] Natalie: Oh no.

[1:35:42] Natalie: We are beautiful in every single way.

[1:35:46] Natalie: Yes, words can bring us down.

[1:35:54] Natalie: Don't you bring me down today?

[1:36:01] Natalie: Oh don't you bring me down today?

[1:36:18] ♪ Musical number: "Beautiful" — performed by Mercedes ♪

[1:36:32] Andrew: Thank you, Mercedes.

[1:36:33] Allison: Thank you.

[1:36:34] Ben Finer: Thank you very much. I first note I wrote down this ended hate. This hate found dead in a ditch after this performance.

[1:36:47] Natalie: Everything was just nice to each other.

[1:36:50] Joe: Yeah, it's like Glee's answer to that. What's that like Black Eyed Peas song?

[1:36:55] Andrew: Um, where's the "Where Is the Love?"

[1:36:57] Joe: Yeah, yeah.

[1:36:58] Andrew: It's giving that.

[1:36:59] Natalie: It's giving the stuff.

[1:37:00] Allison: I'm shocked they never sang that on Glee. They were literally supposed to sing "Fergalicious" in this same episode, Mercedes and Kurt.

[1:37:08] Andrew: That's messed up. Because I think that that was like the number that they were supposed to be doing at this pep assembly.

[1:37:14] Allison: Sure.

[1:37:15] Andrew: But then Mercedes was like, uh-uh, it's time for a Mercolo.

[1:37:19] Allison: Yeah.

[1:37:19] Natalie: Mm-hmm.

[1:37:20] Ben Finer: As it should be.

[1:37:21] Andrew: Absolutely. Joe, what are you thinking about this Mercedes solo? Where does it rank for you?

[1:37:27] Joe: I agree with Allison. Beautiful. It was amazing. And I loved like the ensemble at the end. Amazing. You get some of everyone. It's great. It's beautiful.

[1:37:39] Ben Finer: Very strong. Very strong first, first choice. First contender.

[1:37:43] Natalie: I just I'm about to watch this episode on my rewatch. I just got to "Hello," which is what, episode 14?

[1:37:52] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:37:53] Natalie: Um. I am a Saint Barry Shipper, baby.

[1:37:58] Ben Finer: Oh, them sitting together is very sitting together, the arms around her shoulders, and like, uh.

[1:38:04] Natalie: Yeah, it's kind of unfortunate. It's kind of unfortunate, but I was thinking about this, and I okay. So, so had Skylar Astin, this is a theory of mine. I have a theory. Had Skylar Astin played Jonathan Groff's role in Spring Awakening, I believe that Skylar Astin had been cast in the role of Jesse St. James.

[1:38:25] Ben Finer: Yeah.

[1:38:27] Natalie: I because I think and this is this is a hot take, and I don't know where it's gonna fall with the Gleeks, but I think Skylar Astin is more talented than Jonathan Groff.

[1:38:36] Andrew: What the heck did you just say?

[1:38:38] Natalie: I we can we can roll the tapes all night.

[1:38:42] Allison: That's quite a hot take.

[1:38:43] Natalie: I think that Skylar, like I don't know. I'm not sure where I stand.

[1:38:48] Ben Finer: I do not agree.

[1:38:49] Natalie: I do not agree.

[1:38:51] Andrew: We literally both saw him sing live.

[1:38:54] Allison: Yeah, we saw Jonathan Groff sing live too. But like Skylar Astin did a lot more in "Touch Me" than Jonathan Groff. And like, I think that Skylar Astin has more range.

[1:39:06] Natalie: Shut up.

[1:39:07] Ben Finer: Shut up.

[1:39:08] Natalie: I don't know. Seeing Hamilton.

[1:39:10] Andrew: This is this is what you get when we start recording at 10:30 at night.

[1:39:15] Allison: Late night thoughts.

[1:39:16] Natalie: Um late night blots.

[1:39:18] Ben Finer: You are wrong.

[1:39:19] Andrew: I do when we eventually have Jay Graffee on the podcast, I one of my questions will be next week.

[1:39:19] Allison: Next week.

[1:39:29] Andrew: Did you get this role because Lea Michele was on the show?

[1:39:33] Natalie: That is so there is a better way to phrase that question, but yeah, we both didn't.

[1:39:37] Andrew: That's basically my question.

[1:39:38] Natalie: For sure. I will definitely word it like when you how were you introduced to the show? Did you get introduced to it because of your ties to Lea? Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[1:39:47] Allison: Something like that.

[1:39:48] Natalie: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[1:39:51] Andrew: It needs to be asked. I will be asking that question.

[1:39:53] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:39:54] Andrew: For sure. Not to turn a Mursolo into a St. Barry discussion, but no, but they were definitely ceiling focus at least for me.

[1:40:00] Natalie: They were ceiling focus.

[1:40:02] Ben Finer: Period. So Sue's disgusted face the entire time.

[1:40:07] Allison: I thought it was great.

[1:40:08] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:40:08] Allison: Because I'm curious to find out who this other character that's judging the Cheerios.

[1:40:14] Natalie: Yeah, what's the what's the context? I need a refresher.

[1:40:18] Andrew: The context. I'm explaining Glee to two people that have watched Glee.

[1:40:24] Natalie: I do not have like the encyclopedic knowledge Andrew has.

[1:40:28] Andrew: Yes.

[1:40:28] Natalie: Someone that's watched the series. Um this is a character named Tracy.

[1:40:35] Allison: Okay.

[1:40:35] Andrew: Um, and like he's like doing like a talent, like he's like a talent scout or something, and he's coming to McKinley High to like watch like the prospect of the Cheerios. And um, I think earlier in the episode, Sue's like, we have a really great number uh coming up, and like it's really gonna have like a lot of like pyrotechnics, da da da. It's gonna have like a whole kit and caboodle. And um, and so then they eventually get to it, and then Mercedes comes out, doesn't do the performance that they rehearse, does this, and then Sue gets all the credit in the end when Tracy comes back into her office and is like that was really profound, and she was like, Yeah, that was all my idea.

[1:41:15] Natalie: Bitch.

[1:41:16] Ben Finer: Bitch.

[1:41:18] Allison: Um, but I thought Quinn was giving absolutely nothing in this performance.

[1:41:23] Natalie: Oh, yeah.

[1:41:24] Allison: It was a bit odd.

[1:41:25] Natalie: She was just kind of standing there.

[1:41:26] Allison: She was just like, she stood up and just like sort of like looked around, and I'm just like, she she needs to go through like a lot of mental gymnastics acting wise season one. So I'm like, take a break, girl. Quinn take your break.

[1:41:39] Natalie: She looks like she was like knew she was about to throw up and was like looking for a trash can or something.

[1:41:44] Allison: Yeah.

[1:41:45] Natalie: She's just like standing there. That reminds me, Quinn getting up and singing along with Mercedes reminds me that I just watched Sectionals season one. And Rachel Barry, after she says, ladies and gentlemen, new directions.

[1:41:55] Allison: New directions.

[1:42:02] Natalie: She turns around and like joins the group. That gives me Lea Michele at the Tony Awards.

[1:42:06] Allison: At the Tony Awards.

[1:42:11] Natalie: Walking into the Spring Awakening performance.

[1:42:13] Allison: That seems so rude.

[1:42:14] Natalie: I feel so bad for because it's like, oh my god, we're talking about the Tony Awards.

[1:42:19] Allison: Of course I want to hear about it. Joe.

[1:42:23] Natalie: We didn't catch you there. Why were you?

[1:42:26] Joe: How act how was it actually? That's like actually insane. You got to go.

[1:42:31] Natalie: Insane. Like literally four feet from Lea Michele. She looked me directly in the eyes.

[1:42:37] Andrew: On her Instagram story. Andrew's on her Instagram killed. She screamed all of her information.

[1:42:44] Natalie: I gave her my social security number.

[1:42:46] Allison: Yeah, she asked for like fingerprints.

[1:42:48] Natalie: I don't know why she called that, but blood type, yeah.

[1:42:52] Andrew: Um I I would be okay with this Mercilla. I really like this Mercolo a lot, but I would be okay with this Mercello not going through simply because we've already put through a Mercolo in this episode. And I also really want contention because I really want to fight for once.

[1:43:10] Natalie: I do want to fight.

[1:43:12] Andrew: So um I'm gonna pull a song. I'm hoping that we we get to to fight.

[1:43:17] Natalie: I hope so.

[1:43:19] Allison: Fingers crossed.

[1:43:20] Andrew: I think we will be fighting. Okay, guys. It is the longest song on Glee.

[1:43:26] Natalie: Uh oh.

[1:43:28] Andrew: Um, and I'm so glad we're watching it at ten thirty at night with Joe.

[1:43:33] Joe: I yeah, exactly. Joe, you signed up for this.

[1:43:37] Natalie: Oh god.

[1:43:38] Allison: Here we go.

[1:43:39] Andrew: You already know what song it is.

[1:43:41] Natalie: Yeah.

[1:43:42] ♪ Musical number: "Bohemian Rhapsody" — performed by Vocal Adrenaline ♪

[1:49:23] Andrew: And you will does that clock in it.

[1:49:33] Natalie: Stop.

[1:49:34] Andrew: That is a wait, let me see. That was five minutes and fifty-two seconds.

[1:49:39] Allison: Okay.

[1:49:40] Natalie: Okay.

[1:49:41] Andrew: That's not terrible.

[1:49:43] Natalie: Wait, "At the Ballet," let's see. How long was that?

[1:49:47] Andrew: Yeah, it's um "At the Ballet" is five minutes and forty-three seconds.

[1:49:53] Natalie: So that's longer.

[1:49:56] Andrew: Um so you lied.

[1:49:59] Joe: Wait, no, no, no. I said five minutes and fifty-two Bohemian Rhapsody's longer. Never mind.

[1:50:04] Andrew: Yeah.

[1:50:05] Joe: I thought you said five minutes and thirty-two seconds. Anyways.

[1:50:08] Andrew: Yeah. Joe, what are we thinking about this?

[1:50:11] Joe: Amazing. Stunning. Perfection. It's like one of the best Glee numbers of all time.

[1:50:19] Natalie: I would agree.

[1:50:20] Joe: Yeah.

[1:50:21] Natalie: Andrew, the entire time I was thinking of what you said about Skylar Aston and Jonathan Groff.

[1:50:26] Andrew: Totally. And I hate you for it. And I don't think I can get past it.

[1:50:29] Joe: I'm so glad that I said that. I was thinking that too. And I might have to say that I don't think Skylar Aston could have done that.

[1:50:38] Natalie: Exactly. That is what I'm saying. I think Jonathan Groff can do Troublemaker's finale from Pitch Perfect. I don't think Skylar Aston could do what Jonathan Groff just did.

[1:50:51] Joe: Exactly. I do have to agree with that statement. I feel like I've been like having like a Skylar Aston moment recently. And I did see Little Shop of Horrors like two months ago, and it was like a day before Skylar Aston joined the cast, and I was like, I'm a big dum-dum. Um and so like I need to go back and see it with him because I feel like he's not gonna be in it much longer.

[1:51:15] Natalie: But no, he's having a moment in my mind right now.

[1:51:18] Joe: Yeah, in your mind.

[1:51:20] Natalie: That's true. Jay Groff is the movement, okay?

[1:51:24] Joe: Sure.

[1:51:24] Natalie: Skylar is the moment, Jay Groff is the movement to quote Hamilton itself, okay? Let's just get Jay Groff and Skylar on the pod so that they can sing for us and we can have a diva off.

[1:51:36] Joe: Because Zoom famously really has like great audio.

[1:51:40] Natalie: Yeah, it does.

[1:51:41] Joe: Exactly. Skylar Aston, Jonathan Groff. We challenge you. Formal invite. I challenge you. Um I have so many notes, but I wanna start the discourse with someone else before I get into mine.

[1:51:58] Natalie: This is beautiful. I love this. Um, I love that it's so long. I wish it could go longer. My personal favorite song within this song is um oh my god. It's after Scaramouche. Um it's the Yeah, the Let Me Go.

[1:52:19] Joe: Oh, let me go.

[1:52:20] Natalie: Yeah. Yeah.

[1:52:21] Joe: So good.

[1:52:23] Natalie: I love all of it. I love it all. So good. And I did realize how ridiculous it is that we're supposed to believe they're high schoolers doing all of this.

[1:52:32] Joe: Yeah, what the fuck?

[1:52:35] Natalie: Um Jesse St. James is so sexy. Can I say that? Jonathan Groff himself is just cute. Jesse St. James is sexy as fuck. Oh my god. And I think that he has like a line later in the series. I don't know where it is, but he's like, they reference back to this performance, and he's like, yeah, I actually lost 15 pounds doing that.

[1:52:54] Joe: Yeah.

[1:52:55] Natalie: I do remember that. I trust him on that one. See, it's just iconic. They reference it themselves. It's simply iconic.

[1:53:02] Joe: Yeah.

[1:53:03] Natalie: Um definitely, definitely going far. Yeah, this is not a hard competition. This is not a fight for me.

[1:53:09] Joe: I know, I know. Um, I wanna give a little shout out to Taisha. Um, who is in there losing 15 pounds. They all collectively lost, I don't know, hundreds of pounds.

[1:53:23] Natalie: Hundreds of pounds on that stage. Um I wrote down Quinn's, It Hurts. Uh it does hurt to watch this. Uh to see what it could have been. Um I feel like we had two Quinn's numbers back to back right now.

[1:53:38] Joe: Yeah.

[1:53:39] Natalie: And honestly. It's just insult to injury um to watch them like this. Salt in the wound.

[1:53:46] Joe: Salt in the wound.

[1:53:47] Natalie: Uh doesn't feel good. Um, what else do I have? Oh, how did they all get to the hospital?

[1:53:53] Joe: Oh how do they all They took the bus.

[1:53:53] Natalie: They took the bus. I guess.

[1:53:59] Joe: Wait, you think so? They have a bus to go to regionals and they took it to the hospital and uh Rachel stayed behind. But I think that, but I guess like I'm just trying to think, because I want to give some thought to this series because I don't think a lot of thought was actually put into actually creating it. But um so they get on the bus, but like Quinn and like Mercedes and maybe Puck gets into Quinn's mom's car.

[1:54:24] Natalie: You think?

[1:54:25] Joe: Yeah, yeah. Sure. Sure. I don't know. I just this is a fun thing to think about for me.

[1:54:32] Natalie: Yeah, everybody follows behind in the bus. I don't think you'd want to go in a school bus while in labor.

[1:54:38] Joe: Yeah.

[1:54:39] Natalie: It wouldn't be very comfortable. That would be a story. But I guess she could like lay down in in like one of those back seats where all the cool kids sit.

[1:54:47] Joe: No.

[1:54:47] Natalie: No. And the very back is like a half seat.

[1:54:50] Joe: Yes, I was just gonna say that.

[1:54:52] Natalie: Yeah, the very back is like a half seat because of the emergency door.

[1:54:56] Joe: You stupid idiot.

[1:54:57] Natalie: No, not the very back, but like you know, like the three seats.

[1:55:02] Joe: Yeah.

[1:55:02] Natalie: That the Quinn has her space. Like Matt and Mike are like, okay, we're not going back there. Who's driving the bus?

[1:55:12] Joe: Um, and I also was thinking Rachel definitely wouldn't have been the only person that stayed behind. I'm sure that there are other Glee Club members that don't give a fuck about Rachel Quinn giving birth.

[1:55:23] Natalie: I know I was just thinking about how awkward that would be for Finn.

[1:55:27] Joe: Right.

[1:55:28] Natalie: Like, I don't think that Matt cares. I don't think that Finn would care too.

[1:55:35] Joe: Right.

[1:55:35] Natalie: Um, like, like, does Tina care? Like, I don't like who do they care? Like, I don't know. Brittany doesn't know where she is.

[1:55:44] Joe: Brittany doesn't even think she's driving the bus.

[1:55:44] Natalie: She's driving the bus.

[1:55:48] Joe: Um, yeah. Okay, I still have a few more notes. We're really going through these.

[1:55:53] Natalie: Tell us.

[1:55:53] Joe: Um, the glow sticks. So good. You saying glow stick made me think it was like a Glee word.

[1:56:01] Natalie: Oh, yeah. Wait, what was the word?

[1:56:04] Joe: Oh, there I saw the word gloss not too long ago, and I was like, wait, that's Glee loss.

[1:56:09] Natalie: Glee boss.

[1:56:10] Joe: A Glee boss. Um, okay, so the glue the glow sticks. It made me think, like, okay, so like when just like um Midwestern Ohioans show up to these uh show choir events, do they get like a goodie bag of like a foam finger, a glow stick, a candle?

[1:56:29] Natalie: Everybody check under your seat!

[1:56:30] Joe: Yeah, and it's like okay, like when is this gonna come into play? And it's like, oh, now is the moment that we pull out the foam finger. Now is the moment that we pull out the glow stick.

[1:56:39] Natalie: Right. How do they how who's cueing this?

[1:56:42] Joe: I think it was Stan Twitter. I think it was Stan Twitter about New Directions and Vocal Adrenaline organizing the crowd.

[1:56:49] Natalie: Yeah, that's how it worked when I went to a Harry Styles concert and there were pink little post-its on everybody's chair, and somebody tweeted, like, put this over your phone flash during whatever song it was.

[1:57:04] Joe: Wait, what does that do?

[1:57:05] Natalie: And it makes your flash pink.

[1:57:07] Joe: Oh, I'm a I'm a big dum dum.

[1:57:09] Natalie: Yeah, you stupid idiot. Okay, I'm sorry. Did he like acknowledge it when it happened?

[1:57:16] Joe: He was like, Oh, that was very beautiful, yes.

[1:57:19] Natalie: Um, but it was Stan Vocal Adrenaline Stan Twitter.

[1:57:22] Joe: Yeah.

[1:57:23] Natalie: Title of the episode. I would believe that they have one.

[1:57:26] Joe: Yeah.

[1:57:26] Natalie: Yeah, obviously. If they don't, they do now, baby. And my one final note is when people are giving birth. Do they get up and say, no, no, no, no, no. Is that a thing that happens?

[1:57:45] Joe: Um I guess I don't know. That depends on the woman, I think.

[1:57:49] Natalie: Sure. Depends on the woman and how much of a pain tolerance she can stand. She's had an epidural, probably not. Um I think that she got a cue from Jesse St. James that they were gonna be singing this number.

[1:58:04] Joe: Yeah.

[1:58:06] Natalie: Vocal she's on Vocal Adrenaline Stan Twitter.

[1:58:10] Joe: Yeah.

[1:58:11] Natalie: So she knew that they were gonna perform Bohemian Rhapsody.

[1:58:14] Joe: Yeah.

[1:58:15] Natalie: They planned it out. They planned it out. Any any those are the rest of my thoughts on Bohemian Rhapsody Glee Cast version by Glee Cast. Is there any final opinions about this song?

[1:58:29] Joe: Just that it's amazing.

[1:58:30] Natalie: It's a song.

[1:58:31] Joe: Better than beautiful.

[1:58:32] Natalie: It's better than beautiful.

[1:58:34] Joe: Easy competition again.

[1:58:34] Natalie: I know. I know. The first one was good, but this one is just too good.

[1:58:42] Joe: Wait, to wrap up this episode.

[1:58:44] Natalie: Oh, you want to go through?

[1:58:45] Joe: Yeah. Um, I have an innocent man not going through. Um, which sounds really wrong in out of context. Um, give up the funk and Bohemian Rhapsody both going through. And then I have Hell to the No Going Through, Lucky and Beautiful not going through. They were neither lucky nor beautiful, apparently.

[1:59:10] Natalie: Not beautiful enough.

[1:59:11] Joe: We're lucky enough for the second round. I feel like those are three solid songs.

[1:59:19] Natalie: It's a good episode. It's packed. I'm honored. Joe, to wrap up the episode, we ask all of our guests if Glee was still on in 2022. What are they singing?

[1:59:29] Joe: Oh yeah, I don't know. I guess just TikTok songs. That seems to be what's popular today.

[1:59:34] Natalie: That said that they would make Brittany S. Pierce, like Taylor S.

[1:59:42] Joe: Oh, Brittany do a Taylor Swift episode.

[1:59:46] Natalie: Oh, I like that. That's yeah. I think Taylor Swift would be on it, but because she's been big recently. I think she would cameo.

[1:59:54] Joe: Do you want to do you wanna bring in? Is this your roommate who is the specialist?

[1:59:57] Natalie: Oh yeah. Do you want to be in?

[1:59:59] Joe: Oh, this is my friend. She's my friend from high school, but she just moved here to DC.

[2:00:06] Natalie: Oh my god, she is working. Can you hear her through this microphone?

[2:00:08] Joe: Yes, we can can you hear us?

[2:00:11] Natalie: She can't hear you.

[2:00:12] Joe: I can kind of hear you.

[2:00:13] Natalie: Okay. If Glee was still on in 2022, what do you think they would sing?

[2:00:19] Unknown Speaker: Um, well, definitely Taylor Swift. I'm trying to think. Lizzo would be big. Um I like the TikTok song suggestions, definitely. But yeah, that would be tricky. I don't know. I feel like shows always get weird when they go on longer, so I feel like they would try to like do original songs, like how Pitch Perfect they like brought in that like song.

[2:00:45] Joe: Yeah, no.

[2:00:46] Unknown Speaker: We're not a fan of Henry Seinfeld and flashlight.

[2:00:49] Joe: No at all. Get her out of here.

[2:00:52] Unknown Speaker: Yeah, yeah. Uh they would probably do a cover of that, and it would be really, really great.

[2:00:57] Joe: Exactly. Yes. Do you do you have any scalding Glee opinions that you want to share with the world?

[2:01:04] Unknown Speaker: I don't know. I've been listening to what Joe's been saying, and I've been in full agreement. But obviously.

[2:01:11] Joe: Right.

[2:01:12] Unknown Speaker: But I don't know if I have any off the top of my head.

[2:01:15] Joe: Okay.

[2:01:16] Unknown Speaker: But thanks for letting me join. I should get back to work.

[2:01:19] Joe: Thank you so much. And thank you, Joe, for being our Glistener Gleek guest.

[2:01:27] Joe: Yay, thanks for having me. I'm so honored. Thank you for being flexible.

[2:01:31] Unknown Speaker: Oh my gosh. I'm so glad I could be on. Thank you so much. Do you have any social media you would like to share with the Glaudience?

[2:01:39] Joe: Um I mostly use Instagram, but I really just post stories. I don't really ever post posts. And it's private, but you can request to follow me. And I'm if you're if you're also like if you're also following the Gleek of the Week podcast page, I can accept you.

[2:01:59] Unknown Speaker: Yeah, exactly.

[2:02:00] Joe: Um so it's at my name, Joe Hughes29. J-O-E-H-U-G-H-E-S-2-9.

[2:02:08] Unknown Speaker: Beautiful.

[2:02:09] Joe: And you asked for a picture of Toffee the other day.

[2:02:12] Unknown Speaker: Yes, the cat. I like cats. I never used to be a cat person, but TikTok shows me so many cats that now I really like cats. Toffee kept me up at night because I was laughing at how she was shaped.

[2:02:25] Joe: I love fat cats, especially.

[2:02:29] Unknown Speaker: So wide. I missed her already. And she would like paw at me at like 5 a.m. She would paw at me. And that's how she I knew that she was gonna hop on top of me.

[2:02:39] Joe: Yeah.

[2:02:40] Unknown Speaker: And then I slept for another hour after Andrew left for the Tonys with her on my chest.

[2:02:45] Joe: Oh, that's cute.

[2:02:46] Unknown Speaker: We're bringing it up again. We're bringing up the Tony Awards again.

[2:02:50] Joe: Oh, you went to the Tonys?

[2:02:51] Unknown Speaker: I didn't hear you.

[2:02:52] Joe: As it turns out, we went to the Tony Awards. So crazy. Joe, thank you again. To end the episode, we're gonna say bye after one in our most annoying voices.

[2:03:02] Unknown Speaker: Okay.

[2:03:02] Joe: Three, two, one.

[2:03:05] All: Bye.

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