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[0:00] Steven Ferezy: Take one.

[0:01] Dana Craig: Knock knock.

[0:04] Steven Ferezy: We're Steven and Dana.

[0:05] Dana Craig: We can't believe you thought I'd podcast the podcast.

[0:10] Steven Ferezy: We're so glad you're listening to it.

[0:12] Dana Craig: We would never listen to.

[0:13] Steven Ferezy: But I don't even want to listen to it to edit it.

[0:15] Dana Craig: I don't even want to wake up in the morning.

[0:18] Steven Ferezy: Stephen and Dana and we're in the room.

[0:29] Dana Craig: Oh, hi, Steven.

[0:31] Steven Ferezy: Oh, hi, Dana.

[0:33] Dana Craig: Uh, this is an emergency podcast session because we both have finally seen Barb and Star go to Vista del Mar.

[0:40] Steven Ferezy: And oh, honey, we have an episode for you today.

[0:43] Dana Craig: We are sidetracking, we are off roadin'.

[0:46] Steven Ferezy: We are not going to do our usually scheduled programming, which has been Broadway Blind Spot.

[0:53] Dana Craig: No, no, no.

[0:53] Steven Ferezy: Today, honey, we are going to talk all about Barb and Star and where they went, which was where?

[0:59] Dana Craig: Vista del Mar.

[1:03] Steven Ferezy: You're so good at it.

[1:06] Dana Craig: I am from those people, and I think um it's a big reason why I chuckled and LOL'd and gaffawed and leapt out of my seat and chortled heavily through this entire film.

[1:21] Steven Ferezy: No question.

[1:22] Dana Craig: Like I remember seeing this trailer in an actual movie theater over a year ago.

[1:29] Steven Ferezy: And immediately texting you after my movie, because I do not text during the film.

[1:35] Dana Craig: Oh my god, there's a movie coming out this summer.

[1:39] Steven Ferezy: We're having a night.

[1:41] Dana Craig: We're going.

[1:42] Steven Ferezy: It's gonna be wild.

[1:44] Dana Craig: But it was Barb and Star.

[1:46] Steven Ferezy: And then COVID happened, and I knew that obviously we wouldn't get it over the summer.

[1:50] Dana Craig: And then when it was announced that we were getting it, it was so bittersweet because I wanted that movie so badly, but I wanted it with you.

[1:58] Steven Ferezy: Like that communal experience in a big theater, giving our money to Kristen Wiig and Annie Mumolo.

[2:07] Dana Craig: It would have been so good to howl with a group of strangers.

[2:12] Steven Ferezy: I think I saw that first trailer with Val, I believe.

[2:19] Dana Craig: Or somebody, I can't remember what movie it was, but we looked at each other and it was the the trailer didn't even have their faces.

[2:28] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[2:29] Dana Craig: It was it was like it was just the kid on the bike and like their hair and maybe their shoes.

[2:36] Steven Ferezy: Yeah, and I was like, this is going to be my favorite movie of all time.

[2:38] Dana Craig: And guess what? Ding ding ding ding dong ding.

[2:41] Steven Ferezy: It is.

[2:42] Dana Craig: It is one of the hundreds of.

[2:49] Steven Ferezy: Since quarantine, I have not, you know, rented the new things at premium prices.

[2:57] Dana Craig: Yeah.

[2:58] Steven Ferezy: Money well spent, babe.

[3:00] Dana Craig: But guess what?

[3:01] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[3:01] Dana Craig: I wish I could rewatch it because you said, oh my god, we have to do an emergency podcast.

[3:07] Steven Ferezy: And when I watched it the first time with my dad, um, I didn't realize I'd have to talk about it like me and Ivan in a podcast.

[3:15] Dana Craig: So that was a full week ago, and everyone knows my goldfish brain, so I think whatever you say will spawn me, get it spawn.

[3:24] Steven Ferezy: And you know, I remember bits and pieces, but oh boy, w there are so many.

[3:29] Dana Craig: And how do we talk about it without spoilers?

[3:31] Steven Ferezy: Because we don't know it well enough to talk around it.

[3:34] Dana Craig: Yeah, exactly.

[3:35] Steven Ferezy: Guess what? This episode is a spoiler.

[3:37] Dana Craig: Don't listen to it if you haven't seen it.

[3:39] Steven Ferezy: This is for folks who've seen it.

[3:41] Dana Craig: You know, we needed the cocktail after the movie.

[3:45] Steven Ferezy: If we couldn't have the dinner in a movie, you know?

[3:49] Dana Craig: But you know what? Uh there are things in the movie that I I certainly wouldn't have wanted spoiled.

[3:55] Steven Ferezy: They are secrets well kept, I think.

[3:58] Dana Craig: Yeah, you absolutely do not listen any further if you have not seen the film.

[4:04] Steven Ferezy: Because we're not careful people.

[4:06] Dana Craig: No, this is the cocktail after the show.

[4:08] Steven Ferezy: So do not come into this podcast.

[4:12] Dana Craig: This ain't time sensitive.

[4:13] Steven Ferezy: You could listen to this in six months.

[4:15] Dana Craig: That's it.

[4:16] Steven Ferezy: Don't, but you could.

[4:19] Dana Craig: I am in full regalia.

[4:20] Steven Ferezy: I look like I'm in Vista Del Mar.

[4:22] Dana Craig: I read it Sue Craig's Closet.

[4:28] Steven Ferezy: It's eight degrees, and you're in a one-piece and a straw hat like Samantha Jones.

[4:35] Dana Craig: Yeah, and this like bedazzled uh what what's a majiggy?

[4:40] Steven Ferezy: Uh a Vera Bradley.

[4:42] Dana Craig: A Kathy Majiga and a white claw, honey.

[4:46] Steven Ferezy: Okay, so let's uh where do we even begin with Barb and Starbabe?

[4:46] Dana Craig: Where do we even begin?

[4:50] Steven Ferezy: We we begin with Fortune Feimster's wig.

[4:54] Dana Craig: I agree.

[4:55] Steven Ferezy: That's a great place to start.

[4:57] Dana Craig: That is pop culture to me.

[5:00] Steven Ferezy: That is wait.

[5:02] Dana Craig: Okay, yes, let's start there of the film.

[5:06] Steven Ferezy: And let's just say that Fortune Feimster popping up in movies is my favorite thing about 2021.

[5:15] Dana Craig: Cause she's already been in like three movies.

[5:17] Steven Ferezy: Oh my god.

[5:19] Dana Craig: When did you when did you first um learn of Fortune Feimster?

[5:25] Steven Ferezy: Oh, that's a great question.

[5:27] Dana Craig: Um, I learned of her through Chelsea Lately.

[5:32] Steven Ferezy: Agreed.

[5:33] Dana Craig: She was she was a big performer.

[5:38] Steven Ferezy: Yeah, yeah.

[5:39] Dana Craig: And she would do these wild characters, and I thought, oh my god.

[5:41] Steven Ferezy: When Chelsea talked about hiring Fortune, she was like, I needed someone with that body on my staff.

[5:48] Dana Craig: And I was like, yeah, there's just unending opportunity there.

[5:54] Steven Ferezy: I think Fortune is one of the dearest people on planet Earth.

[5:58] Dana Craig: I'm a huge fan of her podcast.

[6:00] Steven Ferezy: It's called Sincerely Fortune that she does with her wife now wife, Jax, who is very like camera shy and podcast shy.

[6:09] Dana Craig: So it's Did you see their wedding photos?

[6:12] Steven Ferezy: Yes, I did.

[6:13] Dana Craig: And they're done.

[6:14] Steven Ferezy: Where they got splashed in the ri in the white in the waves.

[6:17] Dana Craig: Yeah, and Fortune's mom, Ginger, is a huge character on the podcast.

[6:22] Steven Ferezy: She remotes in all the time.

[6:24] Dana Craig: She has her fans, and she goes to Hooters, and she lives in North Carolina, and she reads books, and she is fierce.

[6:35] Steven Ferezy: Her stand-up's great on Netflix.

[6:37] Dana Craig: I know you've seen it, but um her listeners have not and are needing something really great.

[6:44] Steven Ferezy: Um that was sweet and salty, I believe it's called.

[6:47] Dana Craig: That one stuck to my ribs.

[6:50] Steven Ferezy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[6:51] Dana Craig: Fortune, I will I will support her career till I die.

[6:56] Steven Ferezy: She's right.

[6:57] Dana Craig: To the death.

[6:58] Steven Ferezy: To the death, I will throw my own.

[7:02] Dana Craig: So that's a great place to start.

[7:04] Steven Ferezy: Her wig.

[7:04] Dana Craig: Um but also let's uh pull out the Talking Club needs its own movie.

[7:12] Steven Ferezy: Oh my god, what's her name?

[7:13] Dana Craig: Vanessa is serving you some ridiculous uh Talking Club headmistress choices.

[7:28] Steven Ferezy: She's also pops up in literally everything.

[7:31] Dana Craig: Yeah.

[7:32] Steven Ferezy: And it's it it's always one of my favorite episodes.

[7:36] Dana Craig: It always works.

[7:37] Steven Ferezy: Of whatever she's whatever she's doing works, and I love Gail, who never uh gets to join Talking Club.

[7:43] Dana Craig: Poor Gail.

[7:45] Steven Ferezy: Poor Gail.

[7:46] Dana Craig: It's a it's always poor Gail.

[7:48] Steven Ferezy: It's a Gail.

[7:51] Dana Craig: But can I say, even I'm talking about Talking Club, and that could have been an entire movie in and of itself.

[7:59] Steven Ferezy: I was not prepared for the movie to be so wacky.

[8:06] Dana Craig: And when I let go of my expectation of that, oh, this is another Bridesmaids, like more rooted in reality scenarios.

[8:15] Steven Ferezy: When I let that go and leaned in to the Austin Powers of it all, oh yeah, I had so much more fun.

[8:24] Dana Craig: This was the boss.

[8:25] Steven Ferezy: Yes.

[8:26] Dana Craig: Yes.

[8:27] Steven Ferezy: Yes.

[8:28] Dana Craig: I was I was like, you know what?

[8:29] Steven Ferezy: I could have a version of this where it is more rooted in reality.

[8:33] Dana Craig: That's a whole different movie.

[8:34] Steven Ferezy: That's not what this is.

[8:35] Dana Craig: This is Yeah, no.

[8:37] Steven Ferezy: Talking about the whole musical number in the lobby.

[8:40] Dana Craig: This is musical numbers.

[8:43] Steven Ferezy: This is uh a gal named Trish, who we find out at the end is country music's very own.

[8:51] Dana Craig: Reba.

[8:52] Steven Ferezy: Can you I'm just a fun love and water spirit named Trish.

[9:00] Dana Craig: Girl, Trish needs an entire movie.

[9:03] Steven Ferezy: This is an entire paycheck for years to come with spin-offs and characters and opportunities.

[9:10] Dana Craig: This is the new Austin Powers, you guys.

[9:12] Steven Ferezy: You're welcome.

[9:13] Dana Craig: It was supposed to be such a big year for Kristen Wiig at the box office because she also did um the one where the superheroes.

[9:14] Steven Ferezy: The superheroes?

[9:27] Dana Craig: I don't know.

[9:28] Steven Ferezy: She was in a superhero movie.

[9:29] Dana Craig: She was the villain.

[9:31] Steven Ferezy: Fuck.

[9:31] Dana Craig: I watched it too.

[9:33] Steven Ferezy: Um.

[9:35] Dana Craig: Oh, I did too!

[9:36] Steven Ferezy: But you know how I watch movies.

[9:38] Dana Craig: I just let it wash over me and then I forget about it.

[9:41] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[9:41] Dana Craig: She's in like a big summer blockbuster superhero flick, and also doing Barb and Star.

[9:48] Steven Ferezy: And hate COVID.

[9:53] Dana Craig: Can we talk about Wendy McLendon-Covey?

[9:56] Steven Ferezy: Who is in it?

[9:57] Dana Craig: What?

[9:58] Steven Ferezy: Come on.

[9:59] Dana Craig: Long Beach, California's very own dream.

[10:04] Steven Ferezy: That was the first and I only episode of RuPaul's podcast that I listened to.

[10:12] Dana Craig: Oh, it's a good one.

[10:15] Steven Ferezy: Natalie was like, you have to listen to this one.

[10:17] Dana Craig: And they talked about Chorus Line for like 12 minutes.

[10:21] Steven Ferezy: I remember that, and he could not say her name.

[10:23] Dana Craig: When I come.

[10:25] Steven Ferezy: When a mechanical.

[10:29] Dana Craig: She's great.

[10:30] Steven Ferezy: What a what a generous performer she is.

[10:34] Dana Craig: What a generous well put.

[10:38] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[10:39] Dana Craig: I think she is.

[10:40] Steven Ferezy: I think um she doesn't chew anything up.

[10:43] Dana Craig: I think she's there to serve the sane and deliver what she is there to deliver.

[10:48] Steven Ferezy: Um I would like to tell our listeners what RogerEbert.com had to say about the film.

[10:57] Dana Craig: None of it has any real world relevance and nobody cares because it's not that kind of movie.

[11:05] Steven Ferezy: There you go.

[11:06] Dana Craig: That's all you need to know.

[11:07] Steven Ferezy: I hate I've had people ask me, because I posted on Instagram uh the movie poster and said, oh my god, these actual actuals, like what a bananas movie.

[11:15] Dana Craig: And people have like messaged me or texted me saying, should I watch it?

[11:22] Steven Ferezy: I don't understand that question.

[11:24] Dana Craig: I never have.

[11:24] Steven Ferezy: If you don't want to watch it, if if nothing of this genre tickles your giblets, it's not for you.

[11:33] Dana Craig: Yeah, if you don't already know that you want to watch it, you don't want to watch it.

[11:39] Steven Ferezy: I I I literally couldn't understand that question best.

[11:44] Dana Craig: Yeah.

[11:46] Steven Ferezy: I don't understand it.

[11:47] Dana Craig: Do you want to watch it or not?

[11:49] Steven Ferezy: And what do I have to say that's gonna alter your version of if you want to watch it or not?

[11:57] Dana Craig: What do I have to say about it?

[12:00] Steven Ferezy: I'm sure Talking Club has a lot to say about it.

[12:04] Dana Craig: Can I say, can I um I don't have a confession, if you will.

[12:09] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[12:10] Dana Craig: That I did not realize that Kristen Wiig was the evil genius.

[12:16] Steven Ferezy: I thought it was Cate Blanchett for the first 25 minutes.

[12:21] Dana Craig: She looks exactly.

[12:23] Steven Ferezy: Exactly like Cate Blanchett.

[12:25] Dana Craig: And I think that was probably um very intentional.

[12:30] Steven Ferezy: Intentional.

[12:31] Dana Craig: Yeah, I bet.

[12:32] Steven Ferezy: Make me look like a little left of center Cate Blanchett.

[12:37] Dana Craig: Right.

[12:38] Steven Ferezy: Like the Diet Dr. Pepper of Cate Blanchett.

[12:43] Dana Craig: Did it remind you of Connie and Carla in a way?

[12:47] Steven Ferezy: Absolutely.

[12:50] Dana Craig: Right?

[12:51] Steven Ferezy: It reminds me of the colour.

[12:51] Dana Craig: I don't know if it's just because like it reminded me of Outrageous Fortune.

[12:55] Steven Ferezy: Yes, thank you.

[13:02] Dana Craig: Vehicle.

[13:03] Steven Ferezy: The mileage on that one.

[13:08] Dana Craig: Get into Outrageous Fortune.

[13:09] Steven Ferezy: I almost watched it this morning, actually, but I opted for.

[13:13] Dana Craig: Guess what I opted for?

[13:17] Steven Ferezy: If you were in that mood, I don't know.

[13:20] Dana Craig: Big business.

[13:21] Steven Ferezy: Ruthless Ruthless People.

[13:22] Dana Craig: Sorry.

[13:23] Steven Ferezy: Can't even say that.

[13:24] Dana Craig: Yes, but I didn't want to get my DVD out.

[13:27] Steven Ferezy: That was my second choice.

[13:28] Dana Craig: I was like, ugh, I don't want to watch that.

[13:30] Steven Ferezy: I'm gonna watch Ruthless People.

[13:32] Dana Craig: And then it wasn't streaming, and I didn't want to rent it, and I couldn't find my DVD.

[13:37] Steven Ferezy: So I turned on.

[13:46] Steven Ferezy: Karina Karina. Starring Miss Whoopi Goldberg.

[13:50] Dana Craig: That's right.

[13:50] Steven Ferezy: And Tina Majorino.

[13:53] Dana Craig: Can you tell your Tina Morgarino story, please?

[13:57] Steven Ferezy: Sure I can. Um I think I say study buddies, like is that a thing that is that a term that people know, or was that a Southern California school district?

[14:07] Dana Craig: No, you can say study buddies.

[14:08] Steven Ferezy: Uh buddy thing. You know, they pair like a first grader with a fifth grader, and you know, once a month or once a week, you'd like have an hour with them and like practice your social skills or whatever.

[14:22] Dana Craig: Well, my study buddy one year was Tina Majorino.

[14:26] Steven Ferezy: And we would make, we would get like, remember those big chunky pink erasers with the slant on either side?

[14:33] Dana Craig: Yeah.

[14:33] Steven Ferezy: We would take those and we'd like whittle them down like we're in fucking prison. Whittling down these erasers to make little people and little eraser villages. And that was always our project.

[14:46] Dana Craig: Wait, so was she older than you? Was that the idea? How old was you when this happened?

[14:51] Steven Ferezy: I was probably in first or second grade and she was in fifth.

[14:55] Dana Craig: Oh my gosh.

[14:57] Steven Ferezy: So she was probably making Karina Karina.

[15:00] Dana Craig: Yeah.

[15:01] Steven Ferezy: She was a big thing. I haven't like done the math. But yeah, I think it was after When a Man Loves a Woman.

[15:09] Dana Craig: Wow.

[15:11] Steven Ferezy: She was in Napoleon Dynamite when she was a baby.

[15:15] Dana Craig: She's super cool. I haven't spoken to her in decades, but she's super dope, and I support everything she does.

[15:22] Steven Ferezy: Uh oh, I love that story. Um my name is Star.

[15:29] Dana Craig: Short for Starbra.

[15:31] Steven Ferezy: Starbra?

[15:33] Dana Craig: Starbra.

[15:34] Steven Ferezy: Oh, and I'm Barb, but short for Barbara.

[15:36] Dana Craig: Nope, just Barb.

[15:38] Steven Ferezy: Nope, just Barb. Do you know if you're star or Barbara?

[15:43] Dana Craig: Or star or Barb? Sorry.

[15:45] Steven Ferezy: Ooh.

[15:46] Dana Craig: Who did you identify with?

[15:51] Steven Ferezy: Who did I identify with?

[15:57] Dana Craig: We've only seen this once, you guys.

[16:00] Steven Ferezy: I think I think I'm more of a Barb, and here's why. Barb shows up when she's not working to hang out with Star.

[16:12] Dana Craig: And I show up to your job a lot when I have time to kill.

[16:18] Steven Ferezy: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[16:19] Dana Craig: Yeah, yeah, yeah. On that, on that alone.

[16:22] Steven Ferezy: On that alone. That was kind of the first red flag.

[16:25] Dana Craig: Like, uh oh.

[16:27] Steven Ferezy: Uh-oh. And she's like dark hair.

[16:31] Dana Craig: Yeah.

[16:37] Steven Ferezy: God, I need to watch it again.

[16:39] Dana Craig: I really want to see it. I can't wait till that's just play whenever we want.

[16:43] Steven Ferezy: That's gonna be infrequent rotation.

[16:49] Dana Craig: Um, can I just talk about the beginning of the movie?

[16:51] Steven Ferezy: Please.

[16:54] Dana Craig: It's the best scene, opening scene of any movie other than Manhattan that I've ever seen.

[17:03] Steven Ferezy: Ever, ever, ever.

[17:06] Dana Craig: That little Asian boy on his bike paper route.

[17:10] Steven Ferezy: My childhood. Except I can't ride a bike.

[17:15] Dana Craig: Yeah.

[17:18] Steven Ferezy: Tia. That's what the trailer was. That's all we got.

[17:21] Dana Craig: And it was.

[17:23] Steven Ferezy: It was everything. I knew. I couldn't be more delighted or have a bigger smile on my face than when I was watching that.

[17:32] Dana Craig: I mean, he was so happy on his bike jam full out jamming.

[17:39] Steven Ferezy: We had a full five minutes with that. And then he goes into a tree, and then I was like, what?

[17:48] Dana Craig: Uh-uh.

[17:49] Steven Ferezy: No, I want more. I want more Barbara.

[17:52] Dana Craig: I want more paper.

[17:55] Steven Ferezy: I don't want this to ever end. Ever.

[17:58] Dana Craig: Ever. Ever.

[18:01] Steven Ferezy: I also loved just as a film, as people making something, how big of a swing it was.

[18:11] Dana Craig: That could have flopped, and maybe some people think it did.

[18:15] Steven Ferezy: Sure. But it it is definitely a big swing.

[18:20] Dana Craig: There are big things. You know what it did though? It gave us something new to fucking laugh at.

[18:27] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[18:28] Dana Craig: Which felt, I don't know, like television feels different, I guess, because we expect so much new all the time.

[18:35] Steven Ferezy: I feel like, again, I haven't been renting the new releases. Um, but this felt like the first time in a while I had laughed at new storyline.

[18:46] Dana Craig: Well, honey, this is a good thing. We've just been rewatching all our favorites or whatever, you know?

[18:52] Steven Ferezy: It was like, oh, that I I was laughing at a joke I haven't heard before.

[18:59] Dana Craig: I think film has taken itself so seriously, and so has television in a way that to have something like Austin Powers come back into the zeitgeist after such a heavy year.

[19:15] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[19:15] Dana Craig: Thank you. Thank you for taking that big swing and putting these characters on screen that have been in your wheelhouse at the from the groundlings is when they created them for years.

[19:28] Steven Ferezy: For decades.

[19:30] Dana Craig: Thank you for giving them life.

[19:31] Steven Ferezy: Thank you.

[19:32] Dana Craig: And I hope there's spinoffs.

[19:34] Steven Ferezy: Thank you for preserving them.

[19:35] Dana Craig: Yeah. Such a good preservation.

[19:39] Steven Ferezy: For real.

[19:40] Dana Craig: And to just constantly inhabit those characters for the entire f how how much fun.

[19:40] Steven Ferezy: How much fun?

[19:47] Dana Craig: And what's his name? Jamie Dorman Dornen?

[19:51] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[19:52] Dana Craig: The man.

[19:53] Steven Ferezy: No, I love him.

[19:55] Dana Craig: I saw him on I mean, I say it a very dramatic role. Um, he was on The Fall with Jillian Anderson.

[20:03] Steven Ferezy: Oh.

[20:04] Dana Craig: Which is really good. I believe I watched it on Netflix.

[20:07] Steven Ferezy: I believe it's still there.

[20:09] Dana Craig: I think Netflix had something to do with its uh Genesis, but I could be wrong.

[20:15] Steven Ferezy: It's a British series.

[20:18] Dana Craig: Dark.

[20:18] Steven Ferezy: Really good.

[20:19] Dana Craig: I wonder if Dad Dad! Did you watch The Fall with Jillian Anderson?

[20:27] Steven Ferezy: Yeah, he did.

[20:30] Dana Craig: So good.

[20:32] Steven Ferezy: So good.

[20:33] Dana Craig: Oh my gosh. Well, you know, and I'm gonna take a look at the biggest.

[20:35] Steven Ferezy: And he was great because he was funny.

[20:37] Dana Craig: He's gorgeous.

[20:39] Steven Ferezy: Yeah, I could see how they could fall in love with him.

[20:42] Dana Craig: Mm-hmm.

[20:43] Steven Ferezy: Mm-hmm. When do you take them on the same fucking date?

[20:47] Dana Craig: Goes back and gets the same fucking ice cream cone.

[20:50] Steven Ferezy: Didn't even get a different flavor.

[20:52] Dana Craig: She turns on the bathtub and crawls out the window.

[20:58] Steven Ferezy: Oh, I gotta be back.

[20:59] Dana Craig: She thinks I'm taking a bath.

[21:01] Steven Ferezy: I got my baby up here.

[21:04] Dana Craig: What?

[21:05] Steven Ferezy: What?

[21:09] Dana Craig: I'm doing a second a day for this year, and that's my second a day for that day.

[21:15] Steven Ferezy: I got my baby appears.

[21:17] Dana Craig: Honey.

[21:19] Steven Ferezy: Amazing. You get your spark back any way you need to get your spark back.

[21:24] Dana Craig: Um culottes make a make a came Wow.

[21:30] Steven Ferezy: When she pushes them off the cliff and they turn into parachutes.

[21:35] Dana Craig: When it opened with the definition of culottes.

[21:39] Steven Ferezy: Of cool. I was in for a treat.

[21:43] Dana Craig: You know who were culats?

[21:45] Steven Ferezy: Everyone in central Wisconsin during the 90s.

[21:50] Dana Craig: Till now. They're still big.

[21:51] Steven Ferezy: They make you look short and squat.

[21:55] Dana Craig: They don't do anyone any favors, I tell you that.

[21:58] Steven Ferezy: They do if you get pushed off a cliff and need a soft landing.

[22:03] Dana Craig: That's right. If you need to use those as an as a what inflatable pant?

[22:09] Steven Ferezy: Coolats magazine.

[22:12] Dana Craig: Trying to think of other Easter eggs.

[22:13] Steven Ferezy: They just they're quips back and forth.

[22:15] Dana Craig: The Jennifer Convertibles of it all.

[22:17] Steven Ferezy: I mean, Jennifer Convertible.

[22:20] Dana Craig: How specific.

[22:22] Steven Ferezy: It's wonderful.

[22:24] Dana Craig: Is there a better place than Jennifer Convertible?

[22:26] Steven Ferezy: Never been.

[22:27] Dana Craig: Literally my favorite building facade in Thousand Oaks, California.

[22:34] Steven Ferezy: Before I knew that like commercial real estate and um residential real estate were different.

[22:40] Dana Craig: You couldn't just like buy anything you wanted and live in it.

[22:43] Steven Ferezy: Some things are for stores and some things are for people to inhabit.

[22:48] Dana Craig: I tried to convince my parents that we needed to move into the Jennifer Convertibles building because it was like right on the corner of where the Jumba Juice Starbucks and Bagel place parking lot was.

[23:01] Steven Ferezy: Location, location, location.

[23:03] Dana Craig: It was also a round building, and I'd never seen anything like that.

[23:07] Steven Ferezy: It reminded me of some sort of like castle tower.

[23:10] Dana Craig: It's like this rounded building with this little fake balcony on the outside.

[23:15] Steven Ferezy: It's a Jennifer Convertibles.

[23:16] Dana Craig: I said, Who's Jennifer? Like, can we buy her house?

[23:19] Steven Ferezy: It's your drag name for sure.

[23:23] Dana Craig: I loved that their characters had depth.

[23:27] Steven Ferezy: Like, yes, it's a wacky film.

[23:30] Dana Craig: Yes, yes, yes, it's cuckoo bananas.

[23:33] Steven Ferezy: But I could tell that their characters were real people.

[23:39] Dana Craig: Like you could tell that they had sadness, some you know, and vulnerabilities and all that.

[23:46] Steven Ferezy: Absolutely.

[23:47] Dana Craig: Absolutely.

[23:49] Steven Ferezy: Uh, when they're on the plane making up Trish.

[23:55] Dana Craig: That was our first date.

[23:57] Steven Ferezy: That's that was our first date.

[23:59] Dana Craig: Yeah. Mr. Holland's Dombos.

[24:02] Steven Ferezy: And when we were driving cross-country, uh, Drew Hollenbeck and I just this trip, um, we were thinking of celebrities named Leslie.

[24:14] Dana Craig: And we came up with 13, but it also reminded me of like the name game.

[24:20] Steven Ferezy: Celebrities named Leslie.

[24:22] Dana Craig: Yeah, we almost I think we all all 13 is what we came up with.

[24:30] Steven Ferezy: Oh, I can hear Sue talking in a way in downstairs.

[24:33] Dana Craig: Ooh, hey Sue.

[24:35] Steven Ferezy: I you you have a good um Wisconsin accent as well.

[24:39] Dana Craig: Although they were not from Wisconsin.

[24:41] Steven Ferezy: They were from like uh Soft Rock, Arkansas, Nebraska?

[24:41] Dana Craig: Soft rock.

[24:47] Steven Ferezy: I thought Nebraska.

[24:49] Dana Craig: I don't know.

[24:50] Steven Ferezy: Like, I don't know if that's you were doing Wisconsin accents, ladies.

[24:55] Dana Craig: Not sure that's how they speak in Nebraska.

[25:00] Steven Ferezy: Uh Morgan Freeman as the crab, get into it.

[25:03] Dana Craig: He had some good screen time.

[25:06] Steven Ferezy: Freeman.

[25:08] Dana Craig: So so stupid.

[25:11] Steven Ferezy: Dead.

[25:12] Dana Craig: Freeman.

[25:13] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[25:15] Dana Craig: And there was another day, big tea of love.

[25:20] Steven Ferezy: I wonder if Barbara Streisand has seen it.

[25:24] Dana Craig: What else do we have to talk about regarding the film?

[25:27] Steven Ferezy: I'm trying to think of things that I've done.

[25:30] Dana Craig: I know it's hard having only seen it once and not even thinking that we have to do an emergency podcast about it.

[25:37] Steven Ferezy: But I am so glad to have had a download with you.

[25:44] Dana Craig: Yeah. I mean, this has been a whole weekend.

[25:47] Steven Ferezy: And every day I lose a bit more and more.

[25:50] Dana Craig: But it has inspired me to perhaps make a trip in the future to a place like Vista del Rey and have just one of those kinds of excursions.

[26:06] Steven Ferezy: Like how fun with that.

[26:08] Dana Craig: Just be stupid. Wear a big hat.

[26:12] Steven Ferezy: Have a cocktail.

[26:15] Dana Craig: God, I want to learn their back and forth at Jennifer Convertible for some kind of performance.

[26:21] Steven Ferezy: Like a lip sync performance.

[26:24] Dana Craig: Or I could just do it myself, but that can be a good idea.

[26:27] Steven Ferezy: What a great scene to do in class.

[26:29] Dana Craig: What a great scene to bring in the city.

[26:33] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[26:33] Dana Craig: Or even like a rapier and dagger scene and make it angry.

[26:37] Steven Ferezy: Yeah, now do it angry.

[26:40] Dana Craig: No do it angry.

[26:43] Steven Ferezy: Anyway, I love it.

[26:45] Dana Craig: You're asking the best work I ever did in an acting class was something like that.

[26:51] Steven Ferezy: We were like doing monologues.

[26:54] Dana Craig: And he was doing the like, okay, now do it super angry.

[26:54] Steven Ferezy: Now do it super quiet.

[26:58] Dana Craig: Now do it super, you know, whatever.

[27:01] Steven Ferezy: And the last time he had me do it, it was Reed Bernie's class.

[27:05] Dana Craig: Sitting there, he's like, okay. He had someone from the class come sit next to me and he said, You two are at a really bad play. Do your monologue.

[27:15] Steven Ferezy: Like you're telling it to her while watching the play, and you like don't want to interrupt. You just can't bear to watch the play, so you're talking to her.

[27:24] Steven Ferezy: You can take that direction. You know what that means. Best work I ever did in that percent. 100%. It was all like I kept like not opening my mouth. I was like, so did this thing, and these are my lines. And then you'll get this, you'll never get it. And then whole monologue. Yep. Yep. I approve. Thanks. Were you able to touch your scene partner at all?

[27:58] Dana Craig: Yeah, I kept like nudging her with my elbow. It was all like I took um you know what I took my cue from, I guess, now that I think about it. That episode of Will and Grace where uh Grace is boycotting the noodle place because they charged her for her replacement noodles, but Karen can't do it because it's so good. So Grace walks into like protest and she catches Karen and Jack there, and Karen's there with her noodles, and she goes, Stay perfectly still, thinking that if they don't move, she won't be able to see them.

[28:29] Steven Ferezy: Right. So dumb.

[28:31] Dana Craig: So dumb. Just sitting there perfectly still with these noodles dangling from her chopsticks. And it's like, oh, don't move. When in doubt, just don't move. I have to say, now that you mention Will and Grace, that Will and Grace was such a formative show for my sense of humor self that it has allowed me to enjoy something like Barb and Star. Like, I think they're connected. You know, it and I don't know how to say it in words that humans.

[29:09] Steven Ferezy: No, you just did. You just said that like when Will and Grace came into your life, as it did mine, as it did many of the people in our quilt. Um, it it was it was quippy, it felt like adult humor, even though we were still a little young for it. It was tapping references that we knew that like even our parents maybe weren't as into or only knew because of us. So it felt like somebody was talking to us directly.

[29:35] Dana Craig: Yeah. Yeah for kind of the first time and making us laugh, and like we could communicate with adults and be on the same page about things, and like, oh my god, an adult has the same opinion about Patty Lapone's hair that I do. Okay, I'm on the right track. Like exactly. This works for somebody. This is an adult who exists.

[29:59] Steven Ferezy: I feel like people who watched Friends won't like Barb and Star.

[30:04] Dana Craig: It's a different thing.

[30:05] Steven Ferezy: It's a different thing. And some people will have it and some people won't. Some people will be able to adapt to it and laugh because it's just so brilliant and funny. But there's layers that they're missing.

[30:19] Dana Craig: Thank you. Thank you. Because of the queer sensibilities.

[30:23] Steven Ferezy: There is. Breaking news. I love that the poster is very like Lisa Frank.

[30:36] Dana Craig: Yeah. I saw one where they're like literally on a crab. Very um Steakhouse Playhouse, the the dinner theater in Soap Dish.

[30:47] Steven Ferezy: Steakhouse Playhouse. Oh, I have to watch that movie again. Oh. It's never let me down. I haven't watched it this year, so I'm already behind. It's never let me down. Not once.

[31:04] Dana Craig: Um that movie Soapdish. Soapdish lives on my iPad. Like on the hardware, not in the cloud. Like, as a just in case. If I'm ever stuck on a plane and like need something, it is it's always there. That and all about E. Two movies on my iPad at all times. What's your what's your just in case?

[31:29] Steven Ferezy: Mine is big business. It's just always. I watched it three nights ago. Yeah, it's always sleep. John was out. Sat on the couch, watch big Business.

[31:40] Dana Craig: Rune. Good. Room. Rune can get it. Every time I watch it, he gets hotter. Who am I attracted to in that film? I would say. The the country bet is the one that I just what a sweetie pie.

[32:02] Steven Ferezy: When she's singing in Central Park.

[32:05] Dana Craig: That's what I'm saying. Like with her white tennis shoes in her red getup. Yeah. And her hair is up in a half pony. And she's singing. Yeah, the the steel drum guy.

[32:24] Steven Ferezy: The next movie I'm excited to watch is the Yuba County one with Alice and Janny and Wanda Sykes.

[32:33] Dana Craig: Mm-mm. That's reading based on the trailer, based on the trailer. Um Very Knives Out to me.

[32:42] Steven Ferezy: Which we loved.

[32:45] Dana Craig: Loved. Um. I'm excited to watch that. That's that's the next premium rental. I still haven't seen Promising Young Woman.

[32:59] Steven Ferezy: And I need to see it immediately. It's like the What? The best new movie. I haven't even heard of it.

[33:08] Dana Craig: Yeah, Promising Young Woman. Okay. For sure. Um other than that, I don't have anything on my list.

[33:18] Steven Ferezy: Great. It's just Barb and Star for me this year. I'm sorry. Just Barb and Star. I'm a one, I'm a two-woman gal.

[33:28] Dana Craig: Ooh, we're getting Cruella in March. Did you think that trailer looked good?

[33:33] Steven Ferezy: There's some back and forth.

[33:35] Dana Craig: I'm sure there's some back and forth. I've determined that it's kind of, you know, it's the maleficent to Sleeping Beauty is Corella to 101 Dalmatians. So we know that it's not a a live action 101 Dalmatians. It's Cruella's backstory. Um I have no problems with it.

[33:58] Steven Ferezy: Glenn's executive producer, I trust her.

[34:02] Dana Craig: Ooh. I have one. I think the trailer looks great and real fun, and the soundtrack sounds great and um it looks campy and all of that. Uh Cruella for me, I'm so Glenn close Cruella, and that she's scary.

[34:27] Steven Ferezy: Mm-hmm.

[34:28] Dana Craig: She has like an edge to her that's like, oh my god, I don't want to go in my basement and turn on the light and see her. You know?

[34:34] Steven Ferezy: Right. It's that kind of thing.

[34:36] Dana Craig: Emma Stone to me is just goofy. And so I I would I want to be surprised. I'm not saying I don't like it. I haven't seen it yet. I just I would love to be surprised that she scares me because right, she doesn't.

[34:53] Steven Ferezy: Yeah, I don't know if I've seen Emma Stone do scary. Um I she certainly And maybe that's not the point of it. The favorite for me really elevated her in my book. I thought she was fantastic. She was brilliant. And really held her own, you know, alongside those brilliant women. And like, let's remember Emma Stone did like the house funny. Emma Stone was not supposed to in big air quotes. Like hand it off the baton on a couple of things.

[35:27] Dana Craig: So I'm I'm into Emma Stone. I'm into Emma Stone and she looks fierce. Um and again, like, you know, maybe Corella's not scary yet. Maybe.

[35:40] Steven Ferezy: That's what I'm saying.

[35:41] Dana Craig: Like, I hear I hear it. I could be eating my own foot. I could be eating my own foot. The point is we're open to it. We're not shitting on it before it's served.

[35:53] Steven Ferezy: That's right.

[35:54] Dana Craig: And I don't want anyone to come for me. I just want to be honest that I would like to be surprised.

[36:01] Steven Ferezy: Yeah. I'm on board.

[36:04] Dana Craig: I'm on board. That's yeah, end of the story. I'm on board. But I that's that that's the little asterisk about my Cruella. Um God Glenn Close. Uh, what an iconic, like.

[36:18] Steven Ferezy: I know for a movie that nobody watches anymore, and like I don't remember being all that great, but ooh.

[36:25] Dana Craig: You know when I saw that movie? I saw I saw one of those like early screenings of 101 Dalmatians and Thousand Oaks, because obviously Disney does those like early releases and then there's feedback cards.

[36:41] Steven Ferezy: No, I don't know that.

[36:42] Dana Craig: Well I didn't grow up with celebrities, Steven. In big cities, sometimes they will like do early releases, and somehow you get on a list and you get to go see it, and then there's comment cards, and you know, you're you're a focus group. Um, but as kids we didn't know that. We were just going to see 101 Dalmatians before everyone else.

[37:02] Steven Ferezy: Raw, honest feedback, yeah.

[37:04] Dana Craig: Yeah. Love it. That's my 101 Dalmation story. It's probably the last time I saw it. But seen the movie once, never forgot Glenn Close in it.

[37:17] Steven Ferezy: Or that performance. I mean I guarantee you it's probably one of her favorite roles, not on like Bet Midler's Oh.

[37:34] Dana Craig: Yeah. For Huluen at home, yes. Uh I I think she holds that role very near and dear and has very fun memories of doing it and loved putting it back on for Hula Wen in that way and like making it from scratch. I think she had a ball.

[37:50] Steven Ferezy: Yeah. A ball. Well, ask Lonnie. Let's get Lonnie on the home. I'm sure they've talked about it for hours.

[38:01] Dana Craig: I would. I would. Are you kidding me?

[38:03] Steven Ferezy: Um, with that, thank you for thank you for joining us for our Barb and Star Roundup.

[38:09] Dana Craig: Yeah, it's it's our it's our drink after the film. This is what bar would we be at if we went to go see it in let's say Times Square. Or at Lincoln Center Plaza. If we saw it, if we saw a Times Square, we'd be at Vodka Soda because we're poor.

[38:26] Steven Ferezy: Probably, yeah. Because we're poor.

[38:29] Dana Craig: Um, but if we saw You're poor. What no, yeah, it's true. Um I would buy your drink and we'd go to Hold Fast.

[38:38] Steven Ferezy: Great.

[38:39] Dana Craig: Um, but if we were on the Upper West. If we went to like a midday, we'd probably go to Five Napkin Burger up there.

[38:52] Steven Ferezy: I was gonna say you'd have to take me because you you know more about the Upper West than I do.

[38:57] Dana Craig: Yeah, I know it's like a little further up, but the last time we stumbled into Five Napkin Burger, it was a great day.

[39:06] Steven Ferezy: Right. It's like the Ivy at the shore, but beautiful.

[39:10] Dana Craig: I would trust it with you and I, even though the Hell's Kitchen Five Napkin seems the obvious answer. Good things happen at the upperwest side one too.

[39:20] Steven Ferezy: Yeah, agreed, agreed. Um otherwise, I don't know, just a bar. I don't know. We'd probably walk around and see two seats at an actual bar and say, ooh, this looks like or we'd go to Penny's and see what she had in her cabinet.

[39:36] Dana Craig: Yeah. Penny fuller, oh, I missed. Okay, this is getting too long.

[39:39] Steven Ferezy: Okay, okay. Right. We have to go. Thank you for listening.

[39:44] Dana Craig: Bye.

[39:45] Steven Ferezy: Bye, bye, bye.

[39:48] Dana Craig: Oh, wait, can we do it again?

[39:50] Steven Ferezy: Yeah.

[39:52] Dana Craig: Barr.

[39:54] Steven Ferezy: Burr.

[40:01] Steven Ferezy: In the room with Stephen and Dana is produced by Stephen Ferrasie.

[40:06] Dana Craig: And Dana Craig. Special thanks to Joel Wagoner for tinkling the ivories on our theme song.

[40:11] Steven Ferezy: Hit him up at Joel Wagoner.com. We apologize.

[40:15] Dana Craig: And you're welcome. We'd also like to thank Jesse Wiener, W-I-E-N-E-R, for our jazzy original music sprinkled throughout each episode.

[40:24] Steven Ferezy: You can find him at jessewiener.com. Last but certainly not least, we'd like to thank Kevin Thomas Garcia for taking all of our ridiculous photos.

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