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[0:00] Jayke Workman: What's up everybody? My name is Jayke Workman and this is Oh My Pod U Guys, a musical theater and pop culture podcast. You guys, I am so, so excited to have my next guests on the show. You are going to love them. They are the creators and stars of Cafe Con Leche, a new musical. But before we chat with those amazing people, we of course have to, we have things to talk about, darling. Okay. I saw And Juliet on Broadway. Girl, it is giving jukebox down, but it's current pop music, which is actually really fun. Um, I had some lovely friends in the show. I got to see my friend Reese Brits make his principal debut, which was wonderful. Loved getting to see, you know, friends achieve their goals. It was absolutely thrilling and you guys, we of course have to dive right into this week's Broadway World Recap brought to you by my amazing pals at BroadwayWorld.com. I feel like I'm talking a mile a minute.

You guys, I'm just excited to be here. I'm excited to be in the pod studio. First of all, you guys, Broadway World shared the very exciting, you know, posting of Miss Caroline Bowman's Norma Desmond debut in Sunset Boulevard. I had the absolute pleasure of being there for her first performance. And honestly, probably her last because she is the standby, not the alternate. So she goes on only if Nicole Scherzinger and Mandy Gonzalez are both out. This was her singular scheduled performance and she absolutely nailed it. It was unbelievable. The energy in the room was insane. And I mean, it's Caroline Bowman. She's unreal. The vocals were insane, but the acting was just exquisite. I mean, it was just so lived in, so human.

When I saw Nicole, she's an alien. She was incredible, but it was otherworldly. And Miss Caroline Bowman just felt like a human telling the story and it was just so, so different. So huge congratulations to her and her amazing husband who was there cheering her on. It was so special to see her there, to see him there. So that was wild. And speaking of Sunset Boulevard, we got the announcement that the show is welcoming Rashidra Scott as its new Norma Desmond standby. So when Caroline Bowman leaves to do Smash and to play Karen, the iconic role of Karen, Miss Rashidra Scott is going to take over and you guys, this is going to be crazy. Rashidra is insanely talented. I can't wait. Okay, next you guys, we got the crazy casting announcement that Cabaret at the Kit Kat Club on Broadway is going to welcome Eva Noblezada as Sally Bowles and Orville Peck as the MC.

You guys, when this notification came across my phone, I had to have a sit down with myself. Not only are we getting Eva Noblezada, one of Broadway's most incredible singers ever, and actors playing the role of Sally Bowles. I just had a conniption. And then we have my angel celebrity crush, Orville Peck, country music star, and also openly queer icon that is going to play the MC. Are you absolutely kidding me? My biggest question is, will he do it in the mask? Anybody who knows Orville knows he wears a mask. He hides his face from the public. It is his like brand. He wants the anonymity. But darlings, are we going to see Orville's face as the MC on Broadway? I am so, so excited. I cannot wait for this.

And lastly, you guys, we got the very exciting announcement that Gracie Lawrence of the iconic band Lawrence is set to play Connie Francis in Just In Time, starring Jonathan Groff on Broadway. You guys, we've talked about Just In Time for so, so long on this pod. We had Michelle Pack on the show. I cannot wait. I hope to have Miss Gracie Lawrence on the pod. But you guys, she was absolutely phenomenal in this presentation that I got to see of this new work. So the fact that she gets to reprise the role on Broadway, I'm thrilled. She is going to stun audiences and she's going to bring such an amazing new audience to Broadway and to this show because of her iconic track record with the band Lawrence.

I'm so, so thrilled for her. And you guys, this has been the Broadway World Recap. Oh, my pod. Oh, my pod, you guys. I'm so excited to welcome my next guest to the show. She is the current standby, Galinda Upland of the Upper Uplands in Wicked on Broadway. Please welcome Jennafer Newberry.

[5:43] Jennafer Newberry: Hello. Hello.

[5:44] Jayke Workman: I didn't even ask you if that was how you wanted to be billed. I just assumed, you know, you have a hyphenated last name.

[5:50] Jennafer Newberry: I don't actually.

[5:52] Jayke Workman: Oh, do you not? No, I just put my married last name because that is my actual last name. I did change my name. Now my stage name is my middle name.

[6:02] Jennafer Newberry: Ooh. I know it's a mouthful, but I'm still Jennafer Newberry. It's very—

[6:07] Jayke Workman: Love.

[6:09] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. We have Jennafer Newberry on the pod, you guys. I'm so excited to chat with you. I feel like I've known you for so long, even though I haven't. I've just over social media and everything, seen you a thousand times and followed you. I've met Lissa quite a few times. That connection and seeing you guys together on the road and everything was so special. I usually ask my guests when I start the pod, where are you calling from? We're in the studio today.

[6:37] Jennafer Newberry: We're in the studio. Oh, my God.

[6:39] Jayke Workman: I can't believe it. We were just talking about being Upper West Side girlies. We love New York City. But tell me, where were you when you first entered into the world of the Wicked? How long ago did you start with Wicked?

[6:56] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. I joined the national tour in 2019.

[7:00] Jayke Workman: Okay. So I was still on the Upper West Side. I was just a few blocks south. But yeah, I joined in May of 2019. Wow.

[7:12] Jennafer Newberry: I was getting married in July and I had come home and I had told my fiancé, at the time, now my husband, I told him, I said, you know what? I came home from a survival job and we met for dinner. And I was like, I'm done. I'm working. I'm going to just focus on our wedding for the next month. I'm not going to work. I'm not going to audition. I'm not going to do anything. And lo and behold,

[7:39] Jayke Workman: Naturally.

[7:41] Jennafer Newberry: Got that audition.

[7:41] Jayke Workman: The universe said, oh, no, no.

[7:44] Jennafer Newberry: Oh, no, no, no. We need you here. Different plan.

[7:45] Jayke Workman: Love that. Okay. But you had enough time then, if you joined in May of 2019, before everything went crazy and shut down.

[7:50] Jennafer Newberry: Yes.

[7:52] Jayke Workman: So you had been on the road for a while.

[7:55] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. Yeah. I had been on the road for about nine months. And so it was fantastic. We did so many great cities. And then we were in Madison, Wisconsin, when everything started shutting down. And I remember going on stage and then being like, okay, we're going to take the next three weeks off and then we'll regroup. And we were all like, okay, cool. Perfect. Yeah. Vacay.

[8:17] Jennafer Newberry: And then it was not. It was definitely 16 months.

[8:21] Jayke Workman: Oh, my word. So then when you got the call that everything was going to start up again, where were you? Were you prepared for that? Had you had enough time away to process things before you were like, okay, I'm going to do this again? Or were you planning on rejoining once things came back?

[8:40] Jennafer Newberry: Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. It was so funny because so many of us kept in such contact throughout the entire pandemic. I worked out with one of my friends, Sarah Gonzalez. I worked out with her every single day. Every day. Like every day doing those Orange Theory workouts. Shout out. And then we. So I remember specifically as we got closer to when we thought we were going to reboot, we were like, oh, my gosh, do we do I still remember the Hoi Poi choreography? And I like like was doing it in the bedroom. And I was like, I don't remember it. Oh, my God, I remember. I don't know. I don't know. They're going to fire me. I don't remember it. And I remember like sitting there and really having a meltdown and being like, I don't. And and my when I was in the I started in the ensemble and my dance partner was Andy Richardson.

Love. Fantastic. And the best dance partner of all time. And we met up actually at a dance studio. God bless. And like before we left to go back, we remounted in Dallas and we met up and we were like, OK, let's do it. And we did it. And we remembered. Lo and behold, we remembered everything. Thank God.

[9:49] Jayke Workman: Wow. Look at you. You even have your little Glinda sparkly earrings on.

[9:54] Jennafer Newberry: Isn't it fun? I'm obsessed with you. My friend Gabe gave me these. It's like, oh, they're Glinda through and through. They are. I'm here. Yes. Wow. Okay, so you have had quite the journey with the show. I would love to know, like part of what I was so excited to ask you about when, you know, you said you would come on the pod was like the difference for you in playing the role full time. Yeah. But also being on the road versus being stationary, being here with your family, which we will get into because I have to hear about baby. But, you know, doing having a solid foundation here where you are day in, day out the same theater, but you are on standby. So there is that element of, you know, chance and spontaneity. You don't quite know if you're going to be on that day or whatever. Like, is there a difference in stamina? Is there a difference in how you approach doing the job?

[10:47] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, it's so interesting because so on the road I had like I went through a I've gone through with Wicked. I've gone through all these different iterations of my mentality with stamina and like giving the show my all and how I show up. So in the ensemble, it was like a muscle that I had to build. And so like I remember even getting through my first week of shows and being like, oh, my gosh, this is a tough thing. I really have to figure out how to sing these huge ensemble numbers like as a soprano one, like, you know, getting this and like I have to figure this out. And I slowly figured that out. And then I figured out the physicality of it because the dancing is like so intense as well. Right.

And I'm not even one of the dance tracks, but I am doing a lot of movement in the costumes and the everything. So I was like, OK, let me figure that out. OK, now let me incorporate a workout into like each city. And then when I bumped into Glinda full time, I was like, OK, well, I already know how this goes because I did it in the ensemble, which was great. Like I thought that was for me the best setup.

[11:55] Jayke Workman: Perfect setup.

[11:55] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. Because I learned how to do the show and how to pace myself eight shows a week, sometimes more. And were you understudying as well?

[12:05] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. Okay. Yeah. So sometimes going on. Sometimes going on. Yeah. Yeah. And so it was like and doing understudy rehearsals and doing rehearsals with creatives, all of that. Wow. So like I got to figure out that rhythm. And then when I got to do the show eight times a week in the role, it was a whole nother like back to the drawing board. Yeah. How do I pace myself? When can I like do that little scream? Like when do I have to be like, oh, well, let's check in. Yes. I got to be able to give eight shows this week. And how am I going to get to that finish line without just being like, I can't do it? Yeah. It's it takes pacing. A hundred percent.

[12:44] Jennafer Newberry: So found that rhythm that also kind of made me realize, oh, my gosh, you're on tour, but you are working. Yeah. So this is not a vacation. All those things that you could do like previously, like I could go to museums more often. I could go work out more often in the ensemble because I had more time to figure that out in my body. Right. But then the like pairing that with the emotionality of Glinda. Yeah. And like the weight of that. I was like, Zach, my husband, I was like, I simply must be sleeping. I have to sleep. I can't work out as often as I did. I can, but they can't be as like high intensity. And I can't go out. Yeah. Like I can't. I need to kind of have to like live. Yes. Very internally. So that was the thing. And then so I got through almost 500 shows as Glinda on the Road, which is incredible.

[13:45] Jayke Workman: That is wild.

[13:45] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. Yeah. I'm gearing up. I'm almost to 500. So I'm like trying to keep count here so that I can be like 500. Wow. Yeah. As Glinda. And then like I think I've already hit a thousand in general. But then then getting here, I was I was like, oh, OK, I know the show like the back of my hand. I've done it so many times. Yeah. Still different. We're on a rake. Yeah. I'm with like all new people, completely new cast. Yeah. All different energy. I mean, some, you know, Jake and Lisa and Jordan, like I have them, but, you know, still very different. Yeah. So balancing that and then balancing the fact that I'm newly postpartum.

[14:37] Jennafer Newberry: And so I'm like, okay, how did that affect me and figuring all of that out and yeah, and then I remember when I first joined as the standby I was like, wait a second. That means I need to like be here and I need to be warm, be ready, and I need to be ready at a moment's notice to just jump on. That's crazy. And so like a week in I was like, okay, okay, okay, I got it. What do I need to do? How am I gonna, how do I, how would I be ready? Yeah, I started going up to the rehearsal room and like warming up a little bit and like being like, okay, but I also had to quickly realize I am in New York. I am living my life. I am taking care of my daughter. Yeah, I do need to go to the gym and I need to like make choices throughout the day.

And if I go on that night, that's okay. I can't live like a, yeah, like a little like a nun crab. Yes. Yeah, like yeah, I can't just, yeah, I can't hide away. I only just live if I go on. I can do it. Yes, like it's so, it's stretched me in that way as well.

[15:46] Jayke Workman: Wow, yeah. Do you feel is there a difference in like pressure of performance in the quote-unquote like Broadway realm versus being on the road where if you maybe have a one-off show where you're like, well that wasn't what I wanted it to be? Is there an added like layer? You know of intensity because, well, I mean we can talk about New York, but also just the fact that now the spotlight is on Wicked as it's never been before. I mean, yeah, you know when it first happened and it became the phenomenon that it is, it was popular, pun intended, but this is, I mean, a whole new world of celebrity and what it means to be part of the legacy of Wicked. So I would imagine that there is that added, you know, people are coming who otherwise would never have set foot in a Broadway theater because of this movie, truly, which is wonderful.

[16:47] Jennafer Newberry: It's an amazing thing, another pun. I'm gonna kill myself, but it's like, but like what is that? Has it been talked about? Do you guys as a cast and a company, you know, reflect on that at all of like that pressure?

[17:04] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, I think if anything it's internalized pressure. It's something that we're putting on ourselves and I think no one's coming being like you are not.

[17:15] Jayke Workman: Exactly.

[17:22] Jennafer Newberry: No, I think if anything the audiences are so like, I get chills when I hear the opening start and the audience applaud. Yeah, and then like when Glinda comes in and you hear them go crazy when Elphaba comes in and you hear them go great. Like there's nothing better. Yeah, and so right now I just think that that's exactly it. We have this captive audience that is just like so excited. He's wrapped and like the show has always been great. Yeah, the audiences have always been like ready and now they just have another reason.

[17:58] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[18:02] Jennafer Newberry: To be like, oh my gosh, now I get to come see it live. Wow, like I just saw it and like now I need to know how it ends because it's only part one is out.

[18:07] Jayke Workman: Yes, there are people coming to the show and they're just like, it goes on past defying gravity.

[18:14] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, so it's like, I mean, I think I do like, I totally get the idea of like feeling more pressure because it's Broadway and it's this huge thing. But I mean, I think that once we can let that go, we get to like ride this incredible journey.

[18:32] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[18:39] Jennafer Newberry: Like wow, we are a part of this cultural moment. Yeah, that is just like mind-boggling. Do you have a specific moment? I mean, we're just gonna talk about Wicked because I'm great obsessed with Wicked. I have been since, you know, I was like eight years old or whatever. But um, do you have a specific moment when you first felt like Glinda? Like did, was it the wig wrap and then putting on the bubble dress or did you, I like, I can't even imagine truly and I have fantasized about it, you know, countless hours of my life of being in that bubble and before the show goes up you where you step into the bubble and you rise up and then you are alone for, you know, five minutes or whatever until you get to come down. Like that alone must just feel so, well, I don't know what it feels like, why don't you tell me?

[19:30] Jennafer Newberry: Oh, look at that, we have a guest on the podcast.

[19:38] Jayke Workman: I don't have to speculate, rumor and oh, how'd you end?

[19:41] Jennafer Newberry: Oh, you totally could. Yeah, it's incredible. I love talking about like the first time I did the show, like I got the call, so it's like two weeks after my put in, so I felt very prepared. Okay, that's it was still one of those things that I was like, oh yeah, let's do it, Gene, Oregon. Wow, and it was like, I think it's like, I don't remember, it's August 3rd or August 4th, but I have it obviously written down.

[20:05] Jayke Workman: Mm-hmm.

[20:05] Jennafer Newberry: But it was a Saturday and I remember like it was the matinee and I was like, oh my gosh, we're doing it, it's gonna happen and I got there and everything's kind of just, you know, like happening around you. Yes, and you're just like, okay, yep, I'm warm, but let me just, am I, am I? And so I like walk to the stage, get in the bubble, go up and I just remember like as I was like from the minute I got in the bubble and went up, I was just like, I strangely felt in control, but strangely felt like I was also in the passenger seat.

[20:41] Jennafer Newberry: I'm like a car on the Audubon.

[20:43] Jayke Workman: Yeah, like I was like going 200 miles an hour and had not gonna know, it's just like, okay, well, I don't, I'm not driving.

[20:49] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, but strangely I was strapped in.

[20:51] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[20:52] Jennafer Newberry: But it was that feeling of like controlled chaos. Yes, because these women drive the show. Yeah, and I had never rehearsed, my Marianne Torres was my first. I had never rehearsed with her.

[21:11] Jayke Workman: That is so insane.

[21:15] Jennafer Newberry: It was insane, but it was incredible. Sure, you get to literally fall in love with each other for the first time in the roles and I think that might be one of my favorite parts about being an understudy and or a standby. Yeah, I mean the principals get to do it as well, but like you get to like pop around and experience like I think I've worked with something like 10 or 12 Elphabas over my time and it's just remarkable like the way each woman brings something completely different and it brings things out of you that you're like, well, I didn't know that's what my Glinda would be today, that woman, but that's what she brought out of me.

[21:55] Jayke Workman: So yeah, how amazing.

[22:01] Jennafer Newberry: It's really incredible and truly what a special journey it is every single time you do it from the top of the show to the end. You, like you said earlier, I mean just the emotional component of it alone is such a crazy arc. Yeah, so how wonderful again to get to actually experience it in real time like you, because we talk about it a lot as like standbys and whatever of like it's so fun to get to do it, but you're also, it's not as if you're like throwing pearls gunning for the role like I wish I was, I wish I was on every single time. I wish, you know, I want that to be mine, but it is so magical that the arc for Glinda and Elphaba does transport you so much that like even if you haven't gone on in days or weeks, you know, you get to really dive into it in like, like it's new again. It's so cool.

[22:52] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[22:57] Jennafer Newberry: Wow, yeah, it's awesome. So would you say that having a baby has changed not only your perception of Glinda but your, the way that you approach work as a performer?

[23:07] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, it's so interesting to me and exciting that you had such a long time with this role and this show before and now after having a baby, like what has that been like?

[23:21] Jennafer Newberry: So special. You know, I knew that it would change everything, you know, everyone always tells you like it's gonna change you and it has like twofold, like it's changed the way I approach Glinda in that now, like I think with Glinda pre-baby, like now that I have a baby, I'm like, oh, I'm an adult.

[23:42] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[23:51] Jennafer Newberry: Now I'm just like, oh, like I already felt like I had this maturity that I could bring to Glinda, but now there's just something different that I feel like I can like stand with my shoulders back a little bit higher like and just like own it like firmly.

[24:06] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, no, that's like y'all I had a baby. You thought the rake was hard. I gave birth. I gave birth and now I will give birth to you.

[24:20] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[24:22] Jennafer Newberry: It's like, so yeah, it's just, I think it's like a confidence thing. Yeah, like that came with having her, so that was really incredible. And then also just like there's something about, there are these mile markers in life that I feel like really help us as performers have perspective on like what matters. Yes, and like the things that actually like withstand the test of time.

[25:02] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[25:02] Jennafer Newberry: You know, and I mean to your point earlier of how you cannot operate your daily life, yes, only thinking about what's going on. Yeah, right. You're like, oh no, no, I actually have a human baby to take care of.

[25:10] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[25:12] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, and like a rich, robust life to live. Yes. Yes, and I think, yeah, so I think that having her also just gave me this perspective and I was like, oh, I am going to, I'm gonna capitalize on that and I'm gonna like hold on to that because, you know, I, this is, it's just, I can't, I think the pandemic gave us this as well. It gave us all this reckoning of like, well, who am I if I cannot do what I was made to do? 100%. I still an artist, right? It's like, yeah, you are. Who am I when I'm not on Broadway?

[25:52] Jayke Workman: Mm-hmm.

[25:52] Jennafer Newberry: Who am I when I'm not in contract? Yeah, you know, yes, and so like having her brought all those questions to mind and it also like kept me and made me realize I was like, oh, there are things that I was like, I had so much FOMO before. I had so, like I cared so much about these tiny little things. I will probably forever and always be a people pleaser, but I'm really working on it.

[26:19] Jayke Workman: Sure.

[26:19] Jennafer Newberry: And with her, like it gives me perspective and I'm like, I'm doing my best, you know?

[26:22] Jayke Workman: Oh, yeah.

[26:26] Jennafer Newberry: And so like giving yourself grace to play. Yes.

[26:26] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[26:26] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, and it just really helps you to hold on to like what matters, sure, and yeah, and so she's just given me this new perspective of like, oh, it's okay, like if I forgot a line, if I didn't like that didn't go as well as I wanted it to, yeah, joke didn't land, it's like sort of smoothing the edges a little bit.

[26:52] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[26:52] Jennafer Newberry: And I'm like, guys, we get to play pretend. Yeah, it's not that serious.

[26:57] Jayke Workman: Yeah, like this, I mean this matters for sure. It's a job, it, yeah.

[27:02] Jennafer Newberry: But like we're having fun. Yeah, we're being joy to the world.

[27:07] Jayke Workman: Yeah, amazing.

[27:13] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, and I mean, it's just, I think I will forever be in awe of Wicked. I don't know that I'll ever do it, but if I do, great. But like I think it's just, it was certainly the show for me that like made me actually fall in love with live theater. I always growing up, you know, loved the movie musicals and I was just the gayest child ever, but you know, Wicked was always there like anytime, like since, you know, 2003 or whatever. It's just been in my life.

[27:33] Jayke Workman: So it's so cool to me that like you have been a part of it for so long and you get to see so many different iterations of it. Did you see the movie? Did you see the film?

[27:41] Jennafer Newberry: It's so, yes. Yes, I did. The girls were incredible and they came with the producers and with John and did a screening for, oh, it was incredible. All the Glindas and Elphabas, all like the entire original company, it was amazing.

[28:06] Jayke Workman: So you got to meet Ari and Cynthia and John and yes, and they, wow, like they're just, they're so fantastic.

[28:14] Jennafer Newberry: So cool. You can tell, I mean, we've all seen the press tour, they are like holding space.

[28:20] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[28:23] Jennafer Newberry: A little, a little, she's never escaping it.

[28:27] Jayke Workman: No, no, I never want her to.

[28:29] Jennafer Newberry: No, like it's amazing. They're just adorable.

[28:36] Jayke Workman: Oh.

[28:36] Jennafer Newberry: But like they, I, and I said this like to John, I was like, this is the most honoring, like you can tell that every piece of this you wanted so deeply to honor the work that has been done at the Gershwin Theatre.

[28:54] Jennafer Newberry: Like and you know, Steven and Winnie in writing it, they wanted to honor that original and like they did, they honored exactly what was made while making something else that is this like cultural moment. It's wild.

[29:13] Jennafer Newberry: I literally, I remember standing there and talking to them and being like, "Hey, this is incredible. I have not bought the movie. I'm about to buy the movie. My husband hasn't seen it. So I'm taking him to the movie theater to see it. And then we're going to buy it at home. This is the Wizard of Oz of like this generation. My daughter is going to grow up watching this. Yes. 100%. Because I am who I am. She'll also grow up watching the Wizard of Oz, but so many kids. And watching you do it, which is also insane. Which is crazy. So crazy. But like, this is like, this is this cultural moment and like, what is happening? It's incredible. So wild. So did you have a specific, was Wicked part of your life or part of your journey to being a performer at all? Or were you, what sort of influenced you as a child and as like a young adult into this world?

[29:59] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. So I grew up, I grew up actually like doing pageants.

[30:11] Jayke Workman: Work, diva.

[30:12] Jennafer Newberry: Who would have guessed? Look at this beauty queen. Oh my gosh. It's so funny. It's a funny story. Not doing pageants like Toddlers and Tiaras version. It was before the craziness. But like, but I did. And I did a lot of like, because I could, from the minute I could sing, my mom was like, she can sing. And she like would put me in talent competitions and things like that. And I remember I went to her when I was eight years old and I was like, "Mom, I will keep doing the pageants, the talent, but I'm not doing the beauty because real beauty comes from within. Period." I was like, who said that? I said that? She's like, "You said that. I don't know who raised you, but I did not raise you to think like that."

And I was like, "No, I'll sing. I'll sing. But I'm done with the hair and makeup." Iconic. So funny. So I grew up doing pageants. And that's where I like learned how to perform in front of people. And then like I remember and my mom and she would always take me to in Houston theater under the stars, we would see all these musicals. And so like I saw I got to see so many and be exposed to so many things. And then I went to a performing arts like middle school that had like a magnet program and then a performing arts high school. So I got to do all this stuff, but it always kind of centered around vocal and dance and never really around theater. So then in middle school and I got to be a part of musicals like I did some of those musicals.

And I was like, "Gosh," and in eighth grade I did Bye Bye Birdie. And I was like, "What is this feeling? So sudden and new." And wowzers, wowzers. I was Ursula, like just losing my mind, going crazy. And it was so fun. It was so fun. And so then I ended up going to the high school for the performing and visual arts in Houston and I did vocal. But I was just still like, "Oh, I really love theater."

[32:08] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[32:09] Jennafer Newberry: And I all this time thought I wanted to be a pediatrician. Was surely like being like, "I'm going to go get my degree and be a doctor." No, no, no, no. I can pretend to be a doctor. Yes, very that you just, you know, put me on a doctor. Here we go. But I ended up seeing a production of The Lion King. And I remember like it like those people coming in and that opening number and I just like sat there crying and I was like, "Yeah, people do this for a living. This is their job. This is incredible."

[32:50] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[32:51] Jennafer Newberry: And it was just remarkable. And it's a full circle moment. But what's really cool is that during that like that tour, all the puppetry is done by Michael Curry, the Michael Curry puppet. He also does the puppetry for Finding Nemo, which I did. Yeah, Disney. Yes. So this is such a full circle moment. Like I'm touching Michael Curry's puppets. Yeah. Like this is one of the things that influenced me. What is like that is so crazy. So cool. Wow.

[33:21] Jayke Workman: Yeah. So you really had, I mean, before Wicked, you were obviously a performer and doing shows regionally and at Disney.

[33:30] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. So was there anything in particular that you were drawn to as a performer in terms of like material or roles that you really like knew you were destined to play? Or were you just sort of like throwing everything at the wall and seeing what worked for you?

[33:49] Jennafer Newberry: It's so funny because I grew up like training as a soprano. So like to where when I was applying to colleges, my teachers and I studied with the Houston Grand Opera, like they were like, "You should be applying for like vocal performance in opera studies." And I was like, "I want to do musical theater. But I'm funny. But I'm a good actor." So it was so interesting because I was like, "Okay, well, I went through this weird period of time where I was like, who am I, am I a Laurie or am I an 8 0 Annie? T like because I can do both." And there's totally a world. I mean, that's the beauty of we have like Laura Benanti's, you know, like who can do it all. We have Jennifer Newberry's who can do it all. So for a while I was like, "Gosh, like who am I?" And I think like I'm realizing that given the production, I can be either. Yeah, depending on the vision for the piece, you know.

[35:02] Jayke Workman: Sure.

[35:03] Jennafer Newberry: So, yeah, I was always drawn to I love a story that's got like a redemptive arc that's got like really drives it home. You know, I love I mean, and that's why Wicked is kind of like this perfect package. It's always my dream show because I was just like, "Glinda goes through it and she sings all over, like all over. We're belting, we're mixing, we're giving soprano. We're giving it all." And she's just I mean, I say we is also a former Glinda, you know. Future. But my goodness, like it's just like incredible. So I yeah, I think I when I worked at Disney, I got to do to train into the Hooptie Do Review, just like such a funny little vaudeville show. And I got to be the comedic relief in the show Claire.

And I remember doing that. And we did our like run for approval run. And I something in me snapped and I went off the hinges and I went kind of crazy and just like went for it. To the point where the people that like I learned it with, like the cast members are like, "What are you doing? Are we well? Like, are you what happened? Like, did you take an energy drink? What's going on?" And that was like one of the first times I realized I was like, "Oh, this is what like tapping into that comedy is." Yeah, because I knew I had it. I mean, I knew I could do it and it could access it, but it was just about like the material.

[36:39] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. So like, yeah, I think I am drawn to comedic roles. Like, I love them, but I'm also like, "Gosh, I just I wish like there's a world in which I love every single thing that Celia Kinnan-Bolger has done." Of course. And Kelly O'Hara. You know, I know. Oh my gosh. There's just it's endless. So, yeah. So I've always there was a world in which I was like, "I'm just a little ingenue." But then I was also like, "No, I'm also."

[37:07] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[37:08] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I definitely connect to the feeling of I want to do this. But realistically, you know, there's a time and a place for all of it, because I for so long was told, "Well, I mean, even harkening back before like school, I was told so often, you have a beautiful soprano voice. Be prepared. It will go away. You cannot build your career on being a boy soprano. That's not a thing." And so I always, you know, in the back of my mind was like, "Well, I have to kind of do as much as I can right now because I'm 12. My voice is going to change and I'm not going to sing like this anymore." And so luckily, by some like fate of the universe or God or whatever, I was like, "Okay, I know that this is a thing. Yeah, I have it." But then, you know, I get to school and it's "Well, you're not really going to work unless you develop either you develop the training to be an opera singer or you be a man."

[38:09] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[38:10] Jennafer Newberry: You know, which, you know, then is like blurring the lines of other shit. We could talk about gender in theater. But, you know, being told like you will you would be much more successful commercially and otherwise if you decide to do opera instead of theater. And I always was like, "But I'm funny. What is what are you what's not clicking for you, darling? I have to make people laugh. Yes. And sing. Yes." But, you know, luckily, the one role that they were always like, "Well, you'll play Mary Sunshine, but whatever that you're like, well, yeah, I will. I will." But, you know, I love to do that show and will always love to do Chicago, but I look forward to getting to do things that sort of transcend just that expectation of like, "This is what you do, this is how you sing, so this is the role that you play," but I can do so many other things.

[39:02] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, which is so special about like what you said about Miss Glinda. Yeah, because not only I have to ask you to about about Glinda and the world of comedy.

[39:11] Jayke Workman: Oh, yeah.

[39:12] Jennafer Newberry: Because not only, you know, you mentioned you're singing in many different ways. You are running around. You hardly leave the stage. Yeah. When you do leave the stage, you are changing costumes to come back on. Yeah. But on top of all of that, you get to sort of play from what I've gathered and from what I've seen, you know, in various. I haven't yet seen you. I've, of course, done the deep dives on the YouTubes and found out the bootlegs, but I have not yet seen you live in person do the show.

[39:46] Jayke Workman: But I've seen so many Glinda's. I think I've seen the show like 17 times.

[39:49] Jennafer Newberry: And it's always different. Everybody gets to do it differently. And which I think is a really special thing. So did you, I mean, I'm sure you continue to find new things, but when you first were put into the show, was there that level of play for you of like, I get to I've seen what other women have done and I know, you know, the plot of it. But like you get to just decide on the day to day what you do.

[40:17] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. And what I like. Yeah. I think that's the beauty of a show like Wicked is like you get to you have a framework and what's so cool. And, you know, what I'm kind of learning, even just like with my child, is that like we operate really well within boundaries, you know, like humans do in general. And so having a show that has boundaries that are clear, you know, OK, I can go right up to that line. I can go right around the perimeter. But anything more was like putting a hat on a hat.

[40:56] Jayke Workman: Sure.

[40:57] Jennafer Newberry: And so that like I find such freedom in that. I'm like, "Oh, that's amazing." Like, yeah. So one thing that when I when I first started, like finding Linda and then like refinding her when I came to Broadway.

[41:12] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[41:13] Jennafer Newberry: Was like realizing, "OK, I have, you know, I know everything. But now I get to like dive in and I get to just like see let's refresh and like let's see where she's going to go with this person opposite me, you know, and because that might be different. Totally, totally different. Like totally different." And even when I'm in just rehearsals and then you're getting notes and they're saying like, "Oh, like strip everything away." I'll never forget. I was on tour and our associate director came and I was doing popular and it was like I felt so locked in and it was so great. And she was like, "I just want you to take everything away, take it all out." And I was like, "Everything? I was like, all of it? I was like, my whole family is here tonight. You know what?" And it was in it and I was like, "OK, I'm just going to trust." And like, that's the beauty of Wicked and Glinda specifically.

[42:22] Jennafer Newberry: The jokes. They land, they land. Yeah, like they land. And like, yes, timing is important, of course. And that is the difference between people like laughing and people go fine. Right. But like the jokes just work. And so.

[42:37] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah, I just I one thing that I really had to do, though, is I I had seen plenty of women do it, too, but I was like, "You know what? I'm not I'm not going back in. I like I can remember certain things that I will like try. But if it doesn't work, like we have to abandon it because like that's one thing, like somebody might not be able to be like, 'Oh, that wasn't the best, like high C or whatever.' Sure. But somebody that people understand authenticity. Yes, fully. So they know don't have the capacity or like the yeah, the framework of like, yeah, I'm not a musician, but I. Yes. I understand comedy. Yes, I understand what's funny and what's not for sure. Yeah, it's just like I mean, like people can people know when something's off and they might not be able to put their finger on it.

Sure. But like that's like when you're when you're talking to someone, you can tell if they're interested or like yes, not with you. Right. And so sometimes like. I just can I didn't want to be the person who was like, "Oh, she's so funny, but she's like doing exactly what Megan Hilty did or she's doing exactly."

[43:49] Jennafer Newberry: Trust me. I wish Megan Nielsey, Ally Mousey, these women.

[43:54] Jennafer Newberry: Oh my god, Ally. The most iconic shows. Yeah. Like I watched them do their performances of Glinda and I'm just like, wow.

[44:01] Jennafer Newberry: Gosh. Yeah. And they were like, oh geez. So that was like, that came from them.

[44:04] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. That like poured out of them and like they just and so that is what I'm like, I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna trust that I know the material well enough and I'm gonna trust my scene partner enough. Right.

[44:21] Jennafer Newberry: And I'm gonna trust myself enough to just go where it leads me. Yeah. And some days it is so great and other days it's like

[44:29] Jennafer Newberry: I'm sorry.

[44:32] Jennafer Newberry: Crickets. Turns downstage to the Gershwin audience. I apologize, that didn't work. Not crickets.

[44:43] Jennafer Newberry: But you just have to keep going. Yeah. Right. You just like, you're just like, okay, well, I'll get you on the next one.

[44:49] Jayke Workman: Yeah. Well, and to your point, I mean, you cannot replicate someone else's performance and also live authentically in the current moment.

[44:52] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. In the real time.

[45:00] Jennafer Newberry: Exactly. Because it's not, they don't overlap. Right. In that way. Yeah. Because of all of the moving parts.

[45:06] Jayke Workman: So do you have any specific like memories of mishaps of The Wicked?

[45:09] Jennafer Newberry: Like, or any like, you know, specific ones that stick out to you? I always love the lore of like a No-Fly Divine Gravity. I love like, sorry darlings, the bubble is not working. Like, what do you, how do you adjust as a teeny tiny cog? Well, Glinda's not a teeny tiny cog, what am I saying? But you know what I mean? Like in the universe?

[45:34] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. How do you adjust?

[45:40] Jennafer Newberry: Okay, I still remember my first No-Fly and I was in the ensemble for it and I remember them being like, it's a No-Fly and I was like, I don't know what that means.

[45:46] Jennafer Newberry: When, when do they tell you that?

[45:49] Jennafer Newberry: Like during moments before you're about to run out underneath her?

[45:52] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. Okay. Like we're behind the cave. Mm-hmm. And they say she's not going up. And they're like, it's a No-Fly. And I'm like, can you tell me what that means? What that is?

[46:06] Jennafer Newberry: And they were like, okay, you go to your final ending spot and you lay down.

[46:10] Jennafer Newberry: And I was like, okay.

[46:13] Jennafer Newberry: Sure. Sure.

[46:16] Jennafer Newberry: So I ran out and I did not run to my final ending spot because I don't know what I thought I was gonna do, like army crawl to my second spot? I like, in the couch that I'm currently wearing.

[46:28] Jennafer Newberry: Right, right. So I ran out and I went to my first spot and then I was like, oh no, I've already messed this up.

[46:35] Jennafer Newberry: I'm on the ground.

[46:37] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. And she's, there she is standing right there.

[46:42] Jennafer Newberry: Oh boy. Oh boy. And I just like couldn't, I was like looking around and I was like, is this life? Like what is happening? And we're all like, look at her. She's wicked. And I was like, I can't. I was dying inside.

[46:58] Jayke Workman: I would love to witness one. I don't think I've ever watched one.

[47:03] Jennafer Newberry: Me neither. I should see one.

[47:05] Jennafer Newberry: I wish, now that I've seen it so many times, I'm like, I want to see a no fly.

[47:08] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. Cause I'm a theater bitch too. Like I love when she goes wrong.

[47:13] Jennafer Newberry: Oh, yeah.

[47:13] Jennafer Newberry: Oh, well, you know what happened to me? Do you know what happened to me?

[47:19] Jennafer Newberry: Please God tell me.

[47:19] Jennafer Newberry: Okay. I must know.

[47:25] Jennafer Newberry: So it was maybe my like fourth or fifth time on Broadway doing the show. It was a two show day. Second show. I'm wearing brand new Leducas.

[47:32] Jennafer Newberry: Oh God. So mama's got blisters all over her feet. Crunchy.

[47:38] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. Crunchy. And I'm like, oh, and like Wicked, boom, Map comes in. I'm like, oh, thank you God. Thank you.

[47:45] Jennafer Newberry: And I like, I'm holding the Grimory and I'm like, wow, this bubble's taking a long time to come in. My feet hurt so bad.

[47:51] Jennafer Newberry: I'm like having a Jennifer Coolidge moment. I'm like, oh God. And like, I, I hear the music start. I'm still up here and I'm like, the bow's music.

[48:01] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. I was like, interesting. Actually the map didn't come in. So I'm like, oh, interesting. A light came up and I was like, oh no.

[48:08] Jennafer Newberry: Oh no. I'm, I'm right here. So I'm just gonna hold this and just, you can't see me. And, um, and then the music started and I was like, hello? Are we serious?

[48:16] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. And so we started the bow's music and bow started happening and I'm still in the bubble.

[48:24] Jennafer Newberry: Oh my God. First time in 21 years it's ever happened on Broadway. And I was like, oh no.

[48:31] Jennafer Newberry: And, and you could tell as soon as the music started, literally the, I could see the entire audience, the lights aren't like on me and the entire audience just whips out their phone and they're like, and I was like, well, there will be footage.

[48:42] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. There will be footage.

[48:48] Jennafer Newberry: And I bowed in the bubble. That's honestly iconic. It was truly a magical moment.

[48:55] Jennafer Newberry: And you're like, yeah, I'm like, I'm safe and I'm totally safe. And one of our stage managers freaking out, he's like, it's going to be fine. We're going to get you down. And I'm like, Jonathan, it's fine. I trust everyone here. Like, I'm fine.

[49:03] Jennafer Newberry: You're like, I've also stood in this bubble a thousand times.

[49:07] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. And I just, and I was like, okay, wait, like, is this going to be like, you have to pull out a cherry picker and like get me down that way? Because that's going to be tough with this dress on.

[49:16] Jennafer Newberry: But literally it was just that the automation like needed to reboot and, um, and the map is in front of the fly. So it isn't hand operated. It was all automated along with the bubble so that they were like, we just made the decision to just go ahead.

[49:24] Jennafer Newberry: And that is crazy.

[49:25] Jennafer Newberry: So that was wild. And she like, just sort of was that Mary Kay?

[49:31] Jennafer Newberry: It was Lissa actually. It was Lissa when she just like gestures up to you. She like ran out by herself and she was like this.

[49:36] Jennafer Newberry: And I was like, and you see me like try to bow, but I can't really. So I was like, thank you.

[49:42] Jennafer Newberry: But it's so funny because everybody walks out and they're like, Hey, and it was just,

[49:44] Jennafer Newberry: Oh my God. I love it.

[49:45] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah.

[49:46] Jennafer Newberry: That is amazing.

[49:47] Jennafer Newberry: That was a bubble lore.

[49:48] Jennafer Newberry: And then there, I have had other shows where like the bubble doesn't like make it correct movements. So like, it like comes down in the wrong place in the stage.

[49:55] Jennafer Newberry: And then I have to like go and then like other moments where it's like the bubble like stops for a second. And so they're like, we're not using the bubble for the end.

[50:05] Jennafer Newberry: You know, what do you do in that regard?

[50:10] Jennafer Newberry: So we, we just do the same thing. You just have adjustment plans to like figure it out.

[50:25] Jayke Workman: Wow.

[50:30] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. That is so crazy. I think the strangest thing is like when you don't have a bubble for the top of show.

[50:35] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. Especially because I'm five foot tall.

[50:44] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. You can't tell by the audio only if you're listening.

[50:50] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. I'm just a wee little munchkin, but I like, so you have to walk in. It's good to see me, isn't it?

[50:56] Jennafer Newberry: And you're standing there amidst the fog and all in the gown.

[51:03] Jennafer Newberry: Yep. And people are like, I mean, they're incredible and they're poor knees, but they were all like, like this, like, just like when I walked over to the one part, you know all having to like crouch in front of me.

[51:11] Jayke Workman: Yes. It was just wild.

[51:16] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah.

[51:16] Jayke Workman: Do you have a favorite wig in the show that you wear?

[51:19] Jennafer Newberry: Oh gosh. My favorite is the beret.

[51:25] Jennafer Newberry: Oh, okay. Yes. Gorgeous. So that's the wig that I wear the longest.

[51:32] Jennafer Newberry: Because I wear that the entire rest of act one.

[51:36] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. All of it. I do live for the updo. I know that updo is so pretty.

[51:39] Jennafer Newberry: It's so gorgeous. But.

[51:44] Jennafer Newberry: And Mary Kay is so good. She's so fantastic.

[51:48] Jennafer Newberry: Wild. Um, and I look at that updo every day and I'm like, she looks good. She looks good.

[51:54] Jennafer Newberry: And I just got a new bubble wig. And she's so beautiful.

[51:58] Jennafer Newberry: She's so beautiful. She's so long and like full. And I mean, she's the appropriate length, but you know, like full and like the color.

[52:05] Jennafer Newberry: Oh, it's gorgeous. Gorgeous. So beautiful.

[52:10] Jayke Workman: Wow. So gorgeous.

[52:11] Jayke Workman: Well, Jennifer, you are just such a delight. Before I let you go, I have a series of musical theater rapid fire questions that I ask every guest.

[52:18] Jennafer Newberry: Okay. Wait, I have to get my iPad.

[52:18] Jennafer Newberry: You have to get your iPad.

[52:26] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. Sweatpants or jeans? This is not rapid fire. So sorry. It never is.

[52:30] Jennafer Newberry: Um, sweatpants.

[52:33] Jayke Workman: Do you have a favorite musical?

[52:33] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. Right now I will just say Into the Woods.

[52:41] Jayke Workman: Love. Do you have a least favorite musical?

[52:41] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. What is it? Spill it girl.

[52:50] Jennafer Newberry: Is it Footloose? That's mine. It's the worst musical in the world.

[52:55] Jennafer Newberry: No. All the listeners probably scream Footloose when, because they know I'm going to say Footloose.

[53:02] Jennafer Newberry: Oh my gosh, Footloose. That's so funny.

[53:05] Jennafer Newberry: See, but the thing is, is I can't really list this as my least favorite anymore because I recently saw a better production of it and I think I've only ever seen bad productions of it.

[53:12] Jennafer Newberry: So I won't say that. Let me think of another one.

[53:19] Jennafer Newberry: I will say I did see Lestat.

[53:19] Jayke Workman: Ah, yes.

[53:20] Jennafer Newberry: Once. And, um, that's an interesting show.

[53:25] Jennafer Newberry: It surely is. But you know what? I want more. That's a good song.

[53:30] Jayke Workman: Um, would you ever like to do a Broadway play?

[53:39] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. Oh my gosh. Please put me in.

[53:41] Jayke Workman: Fabulous. Are you a morning person or a night owl?

[53:41] Jennafer Newberry: I think I'm a night owl, but I'm trying to be a morning person.

[53:45] Jayke Workman: Does she wake you up?

[53:46] Jennafer Newberry: She sleeps so well.

[53:48] Jayke Workman: I know. Wow, that's like unheard of.

[53:50] Jennafer Newberry: I'm so sorry.

[53:51] Jennafer Newberry: Lucky girl.

[53:52] Jennafer Newberry: I know. So lucky.

[53:53] Jayke Workman: Um, could you think of the craziest thing a director has ever asked you to do? Whether it be in a show or in an audition setting, perhaps?

[53:59] Jennafer Newberry: Oh gosh. Um, no, but I can think of the craziest thing I did in acting class, which was like we had to crawl around on the floor like gorillas.

[54:05] Jennafer Newberry: Naturally. And it was called Gorilla Eyes. And we had to like look at the world through gorilla eyes. And I was like, wow, okay.

[54:10] Jayke Workman: Title of episode, Gorilla Eyes.

[54:12] Jennafer Newberry: Yikes.

[54:13] Jayke Workman: Um, golden age or contemporary?

[54:14] Jennafer Newberry: Let's go contemporary.

[54:15] Jayke Workman: Love. Do you have a favorite role you've ever played?

[54:16] Jennafer Newberry: Glinda.

[54:18] Jayke Workman: Coffee or tea?

[54:19] Jennafer Newberry: Coffee.

[54:20] Jayke Workman: Me too. Hardest show you've ever done?

[54:21] Jennafer Newberry: It's gotta be wicked.

[54:23] Jayke Workman: Tea. On that rake?

[54:24] Jennafer Newberry: Girl.

[54:25] Jennafer Newberry: Girl.

[54:26] Jayke Workman: Um, favorite costume you've ever worn?

[54:27] Jennafer Newberry: That bubble dress.

[54:30] Jayke Workman: The bubble dress. Is it impossible to move in?

[54:31] Jennafer Newberry: No, you get so used to it.

[54:33] Jennafer Newberry: You get used to it.

[54:36] Jennafer Newberry: And I'm fortunate enough to wear like, like 4.0. So she's less, she's more lightweight than normal.

[54:43] Jayke Workman: Ah, yes.

[54:44] Jennafer Newberry: But you have little, there's like little handles in there that you can pick it up and just like throw it around.

[54:47] Jayke Workman: Well, because even when that, when you get carried off stage right, I'm always like, that is so bizarre.

[54:51] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. When you're like, oh, that's a funny mishap that happened.

[54:54] Jennafer Newberry: I can add that really quickly.

[54:55] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. So I, um, I was on with, um, uh, one of our amazing swings and normally I get lifted, um, and like picked up in, but there's also the opportunity to do the drag.

[55:04] Jennafer Newberry: Well, the current, so I like just like walk backwards on Piero.

[55:08] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. The current bubble dress that I am in has a bit of a train. So I started walking backwards and slowly, but surely just sunk.

[55:16] Jennafer Newberry: And then I like looked at Nikki and he was like, oh my God. And I was like, and I like literally had what I can only imagine was like the Cinderella on the stairs moment.

[55:24] Jennafer Newberry: And I was looked up at him and I was like, just drag me. And he did. He just dragged me into the wings.

[55:30] Jayke Workman: Oh my God. That's so funny.

[55:31] Jennafer Newberry: Wait, mic on? I don't think so. God, I hope not.

[55:34] Jennafer Newberry: I hope it just echoed through the person. Can you imagine?

[55:37] Jennafer Newberry: No, just drag me.

[55:39] Jennafer Newberry: No, no, no, no. Just drag me.

[55:41] Jayke Workman: I know.

[55:42] Jayke Workman: Um, who is the silliest cast member in Wicked on Broadway?

[55:43] Jennafer Newberry: The silliest.

[55:44] Jennafer Newberry: Oh my gosh. Okay. Like all of room 10 is really silly. Natalie and Jake and Lissa. So silly.

[55:49] Jennafer Newberry: T. Silly.

[55:50] Jayke Workman: Well, my last question for you is a question I ask every guest, which is what is one thing that you would tell baby Jennifer?

[55:56] Jennafer Newberry: Oh gosh. I think that I would tell her to keep dreaming big and to trust the timing, trust God's timing because

[56:06] Jennafer Newberry: you know, we think that we know what's best, but like we're, we're going to be okay.

[56:11] Jennafer Newberry: Like the timing where you get there and you see what happens and you're like, wow, wow.

[56:16] Jennafer Newberry: Why did I ever worry about it? I didn't need to worry about this. I spent so much time worrying.

[56:20] Jennafer Newberry: And also if it had happened earlier or if it had happened later, it wouldn't have been the right time.

[56:25] Jennafer Newberry: And like we can only control so much. So yeah, I would say trust the timing and trust the process. You learn so much in the waiting. Like really, really do.

[56:36] Jayke Workman: Totally.

[56:37] Jayke Workman: So, so yeah.

[56:38] Jayke Workman: Well, thank you so much for being on the pod. This was so much fun. Would you tell the listeners where they can find you and keep up with you on the socials?

[56:45] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. You can find me on Instagram. It's at Jennifer Newberry.

[56:51] Jennafer Newberry: And if you didn't know, I spell my name with an A instead of an I.

[56:54] Jayke Workman: Oh, they'll know honey. It will be in the title of the episode.

[56:58] Jennafer Newberry: Yes. So that is correct.

[57:00] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. That's where you can find me. Yay. Come say hi.

[57:05] Jayke Workman: Yes. And do you ever, do you ever have like scheduled on dates for Glinda?

[57:10] Jennafer Newberry: I do when there's vacation. So I'm actually on next week.

[57:14] Jayke Workman: I know. I'm coming.

[57:15] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. I'm coming.

[57:16] Jennafer Newberry: Yay.

[57:17] Jennafer Newberry: Yeah. I'm on next week. So I'm on the 14th of the 20th. So it's nine shows.

[57:22] Jayke Workman: Yes. Nine chances.

[57:23] Jennafer Newberry: Super exciting.

[57:25] Jayke Workman: Yay. So exciting.

[57:26] Jennafer Newberry: I'm so excited.

[57:27] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[57:28] Jayke Workman: Thank you.

[57:29] Jennafer Newberry: Thank you. This is so fun.

[57:31] Jayke Workman: You guys, that's it for another episode of Oh My Pod, you guys. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe anywhere you listen to the pod.

[57:37] Jayke Workman: And you can follow the show on Instagram at Oh My Pod, you guys. Thank you so, so much for listening. Talk soon. Bye.