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[0:00] Jayke Workman: Did I see Lady Gaga in a suite at Madison Square Garden and cry like a baby? Not no!

[0:30] Jayke Workman: What's up, everybody? My name is Jayke Workman and this is Oh My Pod U Guys, a musical theater and pop culture podcast.

[0:38] Jayke Workman: You guys, yes, yes, the rumors are true. I saw the Mayhem Ball, Lady Gaga at Madison Square Garden.

[0:47] Jayke Workman: And when I tell you, I was so floored. I couldn't believe the level of artistry of this tour.

[0:56] Jayke Workman: I've always been a Gaga fan. So I don't know why I was so shocked. But I had never seen her perform live.

[1:03] Jayke Workman: And it was unbelievable. It was like I was having such an emotional, like visceral response to seeing this person and hearing her vocals live. Her voice has never sounded better. She looked incredible.

[1:18] Jayke Workman: She sounded incredible. She danced. There was opera. There was pyro. The costumes, my god, the wigs. Everything. If I wasn't a little monster before, I certainly am now. Because oh my word, Lady Gaga, Miss Stephanie Germanotta, you will always be famous. But enough about Gaga. We have to dive into this week's Broadway World Recap, brought to you by my amazing pals at BroadwayWorld.com.

[1:50] Jayke Workman: First, you guys, I am so excited to talk about Bo the Musical, written by friend of the pod, Mr. Douglas Lyons, is headed uptown after a sold out extended run in the Greenwich Village.

[2:05] Jayke Workman: The new original musical is going to transfer to the St. Luke's Theater. You guys, I'm so excited, not only because I adore Douglas Lyons, and I think he just creates incredible things, but this show is so fresh and vibrant. And I'm so excited that it has another life after running downtown.

[2:26] Jayke Workman: The show is set in Nashville in Memphis. And it follows a character named Ace Baker, who is a young queer singer songwriter. And his world is like turned on its head when he discovers that his presumed deceased grandfather Bo is still alive. So it sounds really intriguing and delicious, always with the lens of the queer experience with Mr. Lyons. So I'm very, very excited to see Bo when it opens in October.

[3:02] Jayke Workman: Next, you guys, Broadway World reported some rather testy drama in the Broadway community, if you will. One, Sierra Renee is apparently suing the producers of the Broadway bound musical Wanted, which was formerly titled Gun and Powder, after there was, I guess, like confusion and kerfuffle with the sort of like right of first refusal situation because she was in the original production at Paper Mill.

[3:34] Jayke Workman: And then they let her go and she says that that is incorrect and that they had a written agreement that that would not happen. And they have then come forward and said that we are absolutely denying the allegations and yada yada, which is just kind of crazy. The role has been taken over by one Solea Pfeiffer, friend of the pod. But I am so intrigued to know like what people's thoughts are on this, because right of first refusal is something or is it first right of refusal or right of first refusal? I should probably Google that.

[4:08] Jayke Workman: But it's so interesting when you work on a piece of theater and then you, you know, inherently put yourself into whatever you're doing. You know, it's a role that you help create. So naturally, there are going to be things that you just do that end up in the piece. So I could understand the frustration of, you know, being like, well, I had a hand in creating this and you don't get to just take it away from me and give it to someone else. So I'm so intrigued. What are your thoughts, you guys? This is a pressing issue. And Sierra, if you want to come on the pod and share some info, you know where to find me, girl.

[4:50] Jayke Workman: And lastly, you guys, Broadway World shared the very exciting casting announcement that the winner of the 2025 Jimmy Awards, Fabiola Caraballo Quijada, is set to lead the North American tour of And Juliet, taking on the role of Juliet for its second year on the road. That's just amazing. Congratulations. It is so wild to me that someone can lead a company after literally just winning the Jimmy Awards. What do you have to be, 19? That's insane. She's so cute. She's so precious and so talented. So wishing Miss Quijada a huge congratulations. I'd love to see that. And you guys, this has been the Broadway World Recap. Oh, my pod, you guys. I'm so excited to welcome my next guest to the show. He is a star of the stage and screen, currently in the Broadway company of O'Mary. It's Julian Manjerico.

[5:42] Jayke Workman: Hi, everyone. Welcome to the pod. I'm so glad you're here. Holy hell. And in person. Thanks for having me.

[5:50] Julian Manjerico: Oh, my God. In person. We're touching hands, everyone. We're touching. Just so you know. We're touching. We're touching. On the green couch.

[5:57] Jayke Workman: On the green couch. Oh, my God. With the neon. If you haven't seen the neon, you've got to come to the best speakeasy in town. Upper West Side.

[6:12] Julian Manjerico: Upper West Side. Addresses. 201.

[6:17] Jayke Workman: I love the neon sign, I must say. That is kind of. It's incredible. Thank you. It's custom, I guess, right? I mean.

[6:22] Julian Manjerico: Or you stole it from the last podcast.

[6:28] Jayke Workman: The last pod called Oh My Pod, you guys.

[6:33] Julian Manjerico: Exactly. I ordered it. I mean, but it's like literally you just like type in text. What you want. Yeah. So what you want. I know legally blonde.

[6:39] Julian Manjerico: Yes. I'm a gay. I'm a gay. Everyone out there. The fucking theme of the pod.

[6:44] Jayke Workman: Oh, my God. Thank you so much for being here. I cannot wait to chit chat. We have so many things to talk about. But first, I would love to talk about how we met. We were just talking about this.

[6:54] Julian Manjerico: Yes. Because I had certainly seen your face like before, just either on TV or.

[6:59] Jayke Workman: My dumb gay face.

[7:00] Julian Manjerico: Yeah, that big dumb gay face. Yeah, literally. But I like knew that I recognized you. And then we first crossed paths on a rooftop in Brooklyn.

[7:06] Julian Manjerico: As you do as a gay person.

[7:08] Jayke Workman: As that is kind of the gay pipeline. Yeah. Yes. Through our lovely mutual friends Yoni and and do you also know Billy who wrote the music for it?

[7:13] Julian Manjerico: I did that night. Okay. That was the first meeting. Love. Yeah. So we did a table read of what then became off Broadway's foul play. It was so fun. And I remember being like, who are all of these people? Like, I hadn't met, I think, anybody besides Yoni and Billy. So I was like, Hello. Yeah, like nervy. And then it was so fun. It was incredible. It was incredible to watch you perform.

[7:37] Julian Manjerico: Oh, I was just telling I was just telling her. When you started to sing, I went, are we lip syncing? And then I and then I saw your, your vibrato happening in your throat. And I went, oh, that's real. I'm like, oh, that's like, yeah, it's Brooklyn. You never know. What am I saying? That is absolutely happened before.

[8:05] Jayke Workman: Oh, thank you. That's so sweet of you. I how did you get like tied into that?

[8:12] Julian Manjerico: I went to Pace University. Okay. In 2015 to 2017. And that's where I met Yoni. We met at, you know, a musical theater party. I think one of the themes was like a lingerie night. And we were work both in I think leather or pleather. It's probably pleather because it was college. Who are we kidding? Yeah, like $2 on Amazon. And that's when we first met. And then ever since then, he's just kept me around on Instagram, just commenting, replying, doing heart emojis to stuff, and I do them back. It's very sweet.

[8:39] Jayke Workman: That is also the episode of this episode. The theme of this episode is just gay coded. Gay lingo.

[8:45] Julian Manjerico: Yes, absolutely. Yeah, a lot of neon and a lot of pleather.

[8:51] Jayke Workman: Yeah, exactly. Pleather as well. Yeah. And then he, he was doing the reading of foul play, which was an audition for some people.

[8:56] Julian Manjerico: It was an audition for me too. Yeah. Yeah. But then he reached out and he was like, you can play like, I think I played like three characters that night, which is light for me because I normally play like, yes, my favorite is like playing like 14 characters in a show, which is like, oh my god, it's incredible. I love it.

[9:13] Jayke Workman: Um, so that's why he reached out to me. And then we did that little audition thing. And then some people booked. Some people didn't know.

[9:20] Julian Manjerico: You said I was unavailable. Thank you. I love them. I was so so glad that I got to continue on for a little bit with that show because it was they are such wonderful people and such good writers. And that project was insane, but, and it led me to you and look where we are now on a couch with Lady Gaga in the middle with, okay. And this is not, has never been here before, but I got this, I got gifted a ticket to Lady Gaga in like the most insane way. And then this pillow with her face on it was in the suite that I was in on the couch. And I was like, well, that's my suite. Yes. It was very insane.

[10:04] Julian Manjerico: Oh my God. My friend, Emily, who then introduced me to her dear friend, Lily, who took me to Gaga. Hi, Lily. Nice to meet you. Yeah. I also like Lady Gaga and I like Fox furs and diamonds.

[10:14] Jayke Workman: Yeah, literally. And she was so sweet too. Cause she was like, somebody felt like last minute fell through and couldn't take the ticket. And she was like, let me just check on my gaze. I was like, thank you. Looking out for the bald gaze.

[10:24] Julian Manjerico: That's incredible. Yeah. So we were in a gorgeous, gorgeous suite to see mayhem ball. It was insane, but yeah, this pillow was there.

[10:34] Jayke Workman: So the three of us sitting on a couch together, she's the mediator. Okay. So you mentioned it, but a little bit, but I would love to know before we talk about, you know, all of your escapades and your fabulous accolades, um, where did you, or did you, um, study for like specifically musical theater?

[10:44] Julian Manjerico: I studied, um, I was undecided the first year at pace. Cause I auditioned for a bunch of schools. Well, I auditioned for six schools. Okay. I got, that's a bunch. I mean, compared to, well, compared to like other people though, they auditioned for like 13. Yeah. They're with Mu. Do you know Mu? Mariana Denard. She's like for all, all the, all the people, I'm sure people out there know about her. She was like a college audition coach and you like apply to like 13 different colleges, um, like safety schools, all that stuff. Yeah. I applied to six. I was priority wait-listed at Carnegie Mellon. I'm very, I'm still proud of it.

[11:23] Julian Manjerico: Oh my God. For a musical theater. But I didn't get in anywhere. So I just went to pace undecided for a year. And then I re auditioned after two years. And I then went to Boston university for acting tea and you're in a Stanford t-shirt.

[11:33] Jayke Workman: Absolutely. So you also got to keep them guessing. So where did you fucking go? I love that. The other day I met a guy who, um, went to Harvard and he asked me where I went to school. And I said, Oh, I went to the university of Hartford. And he was like, what? You went to Harvard? And I was like, yeah. But, um, okay. So you like knew going into college auditions that this was what you wanted to do.

[12:01] Julian Manjerico: Yeah. So then before that was where, did you always know that you wanted to be an actor and an artist or like what, what led you here? I think like I grew up, uh, uh, gay. No, I swear to God. Whoa. Yeah. It's weird. Right. I know. I'm still kind of grasping it. Um, but I grew up like, uh, in an all sports high school and I never really fit in. I, it was an all sports, lower school and middle school never really fit in. Um, and my mom was very Jim Carrey coded and she is.

[12:38] Julian Manjerico: Just like very weird and loud and she used to do theater in school and so yeah she kind of knew that there was something in me that sparkled so she brought me to like community theaters around Delaware where I'm from. Amazing. So that's kind of where I started and yeah.

[12:53] Jayke Workman: What was your critically acclaimed childhood role?

[13:02] Julian Manjerico: I played Melton, the warm-hearted snowman. I love everyone at home. Melton! Jayke just looked at me like he kind of knew who Melton was and it was very sweet. I was like you were like not Melton you booked. But I thought you I think I thought that there was a role that I knew of. It sounds like it's yeah it sounds like a well-known role yeah. I'm trying to think of what it was that I thought you were gonna say. Anyway Melton. Melton yeah it was Melton the warm-hearted snowman. He's very sweet. Oh my god. It was like every time he loved someone he melted a little bit. But it's heartfelt. Yeah. He's gonna die. Isn't that amazing. You originated the role of Olaf.

[13:38] Julian Manjerico: Yeah oh my god. You like warm hugs. Absolutely. Oh my god. I and then that led to like me playing the tin man in Wizard of Oz where he also talks about his heart. A lot of cardiovascular issues with me. I think that's my thing. Hemophilia, blood. Yeah absolutely.

[13:57] Jayke Workman: Which then I think led to your actual starring role of Beppo the clown.

[14:04] Julian Manjerico: Oh my god. Okay we have to talk about that. How did that role land in your lap slash you are standing on set opposite one Tim Hanks famously.

[14:14] Jayke Workman: Fucking honk honk.

[14:22] Julian Manjerico: Yeah. Oh my god. Incredible. Yeah Tom Honks. Tom Honk. He is so hot still. He is. He actually is. I'm allowed to say it. I haven't worked with him. That's okay. You can't say it. After I've like I've learned about him and I don't like him anymore. I'm kidding.

[14:32] Jayke Workman: Oh my god. What have you?

[14:36] Julian Manjerico: You're like oh my god oh my god. You're like let me turn up the volume really fast. Literally I'm like can you say that a little louder into the mic please. Uh he so I lied my way onto that set because the casting breakdown was like in search of a professional clown.

[14:46] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[14:46] Julian Manjerico: And it was a local hire. I was in Delaware so it was within like 500 miles of Delaware and um.

[14:51] Jayke Workman: Well that's far.

[14:51] Julian Manjerico: Yeah and it doesn't touch New York so all of the New York actors couldn't audition at the time. Hot. So I lied my way in. I bought a 98 dollar clown costume and makeup. I filmed the audition so quick with my boyfriend at the time. I was like 10 minutes late for to work and I was like to my actual survival job of like waiting tables and I was just having a panic attack just being like what am I doing? Like I was in the mirror putting clown makeup on and I was like this is like what am I doing with my life? Because it was like a couple months of me like auditioning and I was just like sure not booking anything just out of college and I was like what the fuck is this? What like this is so sad. Like it was really sad but from that I then got a callback and then in the callback the director he was amazing um he was like so are you a professional clown? And he was German. That was my German and I I went um I was like bar mitzvahs, quinceañeras, I dj a little bit, I juggle, I do it all and I was just lying and lying and lying.

[15:55] Jayke Workman: I juggle.

[15:59] Julian Manjerico: I juggle. You're like well I can learn. Yeah absolutely. I'm like it's off screen I'm not gonna do it now because you know I don't want to get in the way of the tripod but um yeah I lied my way onto set and then we did the first take and then I just said I'm not a real clown.

[16:08] Jayke Workman: Oh my god.

[16:09] Julian Manjerico: Oh my god you're crazy.

[16:16] Jayke Workman: Yeah okay let's do another take. You're crazy.

[16:16] Julian Manjerico: It was it was amazing. That is so wild. How long did you shoot?

[16:22] Julian Manjerico: I shot was supposed to shoot for two days. I ended up staying two and a half weeks because Mr. Hanks got COVID. Famously.

[16:30] Jayke Workman: Famously.

[16:30] Julian Manjerico: He got it again though in Pittsburgh when we were filming. That little bitch.

[16:34] Jayke Workman: That little bitch but thank god because I got an extra week of like pay.

[16:39] Julian Manjerico: Hell yeah. Yeah. Thank you Tom. I know. Thank you. Thank you dad. That's wild.

[16:44] Jayke Workman: Yeah. And those two little adorable girls that you were just like absolutely.

[16:49] Julian Manjerico: Oh my god. Harassing. Literally. They were love they were very lovely. I was nervous because like they were like children child actors you never know what they're like. Of course. You know they love to like dominate a room when they're.

[17:00] Jayke Workman: Oh yeah. The most evil.

[17:01] Julian Manjerico: Well and they're like wranglers and parents and people are like just off camera.

[17:06] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[17:06] Julian Manjerico: But their parents were so lovely too and they were they were very sweet. They especially when I looked like a fucking evil character.

[17:11] Jayke Workman: Literal clown.

[17:12] Julian Manjerico: Crazy. Like I would. Giving Pennywise. Absolutely. I would get into the um the bus on the way to set and the assistant one of the assistants in the bus got out and goes I'll wait for the next one. I'm I'm not getting in the car with him. She like didn't. I can't do clowns.

[17:22] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[17:22] Julian Manjerico: So I.

[17:23] Jayke Workman: Oh my god.

[17:23] Julian Manjerico: In between takes I just had to like make sure everyone knew that I was just talking like this. I was like I'm not one of those people.

[17:30] Jayke Workman: Yeah yeah yeah.

[17:30] Julian Manjerico: Because also if you bring a clown to set.

[17:34] Jayke Workman: Stay in character.

[17:35] Julian Manjerico: Yeah yeah. Honestly they lucked out that you aren't an actual clown.

[17:40] Jayke Workman: I know.

[17:40] Julian Manjerico: Because the way that.

[17:41] Jayke Workman: They're so fucking annoying sometimes.

[17:43] Julian Manjerico: They really are. Yes. Absolutely. I realized like how much how I don't want to come for the clown community but like they're very bratty. They're very like drag queens. They're Kantiana.

[17:52] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[17:52] Julian Manjerico: Because there are different types of clowns. There's different types of drag.

[17:57] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[17:57] Julian Manjerico: And they I've seen I watch so many videos of interviews and like them talking about their life and how they work with other clowns and they really are like if you don't have like a prosthetic rubber nose you're not clowning. It's like cutthroat. It's incredible. It's basically like if you don't cut your crease what the fuck you do. You know it's the same exact thing.

[18:15] Jayke Workman: Yes literally. It's just crazy to see that world. I saw the tights and they were ripped.

[18:20] Julian Manjerico: Yeah absolutely. Yeah. Literally that. Oh my god. So it's a whole world which is also what I like to do in acting. I like to like every part that I have I hopefully I get to like dive into that world of whatever it is.

[18:31] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[18:31] Julian Manjerico: So I learned a lot about it as well. So I was very cool. I was very grateful I got to learn something new.

[18:35] Jayke Workman: So do you at that point had you done much in front of a camera or like were was it nerve-wracking to I would just imagine because I haven't done a lot of work in front of the camera.

[18:46] Julian Manjerico: Yeah.

[18:46] Jayke Workman: But to be asked to do the opposite of what everyone tells you which is you have to play everything down and it has to be so small and subtle to go onto a set and just literally clown around.

[18:59] Julian Manjerico: Yeah. Was that like a different vibe for you? It felt so freeing and lovely. It's kind of a big theater.

[19:05] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[19:05] Julian Manjerico: I because if my first if if the first role I got especially opposite Tom Hanks was like a subtle calm character. Right. Then I would I would be done. I also wouldn't have gotten it. I wouldn't be on set. You know like um but because I was able to just like hide behind all the makeup and the costume and just be like this is no one even knows who I am.

[19:27] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[19:27] Julian Manjerico: That's truly like Tom like Tom never knew what I looked like until I got the premiere of it and I got to like see him after.

[19:32] Jayke Workman: That's crazy.

[19:33] Julian Manjerico: And he's like who the hell are you? I know. I know. Get off of me. And then I was like no no I I mean I'm important. I'm a clown. And I was like that doesn't even make it count anyway. I'm important. I'm a clown.

[19:42] Jayke Workman: Yeah. I love that.

[19:43] Julian Manjerico: Um so yeah I I just never I never showed my actual face to like anyone which is very cool. Um so I just got to like hide behind the makeup and again kind of do what I have done now in my career a lot which is just do whatever I want.

[20:03] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[20:03] Julian Manjerico: You know just be like the Titus Burgess and just kind of like do whatever I want.

[20:07] Jayke Workman: Absolutely.

[20:07] Julian Manjerico: Every take and just have fun and just know like.

[20:12] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[20:12] Julian Manjerico: This is me. This is what I'm bringing and like you you wanted me here so I'm I'm just gonna trust that you want me to be crazy.

[20:18] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[20:18] Julian Manjerico: And the director was so game for it and.

[20:24] Jayke Workman: Wow.

[20:24] Julian Manjerico: I think a lot like half of the half of the scene was like improvised. And what was so cool was Tom was able to like I that that moment where I like get the coin from behind his ear. Um or no no the part where I tell him to blow on the quarter that was like improvised and then he did it and it was just so fucking cool to just be like oh yeah no matter what kind of career you've had if you're just like two actors like just wanting to play.

[20:49] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[20:49] Julian Manjerico: We truly just like met each other. That's so fucking cool. It was really amazing to like have that lesson be the first.

[21:01] Jayke Workman: Wow.

[21:01] Julian Manjerico: Thing that I know.

[21:02] Jayke Workman: That's so sick. Well okay it's in like a similar vein but also switching gears a little bit. I have to ask about Oh Mary because it is the like it is the juggernaut of a queer play.

[21:06] Julian Manjerico: Yes.

[21:07] Jayke Workman: Like no one has ever done something like this and had it have such a fucking impact on like.

[21:16] Julian Manjerico: It's incredible.

[21:16] Jayke Workman: The city. People come to New York to see this show that Cole.

[21:22] Julian Manjerico: It's crazy.

[21:22] Jayke Workman: Wrote and created and now you get to be in it.

[21:27] Julian Manjerico: Yeah. Can you tell me first of all what your in what capacity you are part of the company and then also um who have you had the pleasure of being opposite on that stage?

[21:34] Jayke Workman: I mean you mentioned one Titus Burgess.

[21:42] Julian Manjerico: Yeah. Miss Jinxy is on stage. I had the pleasure of working with Jinx in Chicago and.

[21:49] Jayke Workman: Oh my god that's right.

[21:49] Julian Manjerico: She is an angel.

[21:50] Jayke Workman: Isn't she amazing?

[21:55] Julian Manjerico: She's amazing. So what tell me like what you what you do.

[22:02] Julian Manjerico: I am head of snacks. Perfect. Yeah. Crafty.

[22:09] Jayke Workman: Yeah. I'm crafty.

[22:09] Julian Manjerico: I go through the aisles before the show.

[22:13] Jayke Workman: Passing out water bottles.

[22:13] Julian Manjerico: Exactly. Uh I'm understudy Abraham Lincoln and then John Wilkes Booth.

[22:17] Jayke Workman: Love.

[22:17] Julian Manjerico: So I normally I go on for John Wilkes Booth more but every time Abraham is like up for debate I'm on as well which is lovely which is very cool to like.

[22:29] Jayke Workman: Great.

[22:29] Julian Manjerico: Be like oh I can do that too I guess. Yeah. And the producers like it.

[22:36] Jayke Workman: Um so I that's how that's what I do there.

[22:36] Julian Manjerico: Um I joined the cast in January last January um with Miss Betty Gilpin, Chris Renfro, Philip James Brannon, and then all the original characters as well. Yes.

[22:52] Julian Manjerico: And I showed up and I was just the I was so **** nervous. For me like.

[22:59] Jayke Workman: Broadway debut?

[23:01] Julian Manjerico: Yeah Broadway debut. Tea. As well as.

[23:05] Jayke Workman: Wow.

[23:05] Julian Manjerico: Yeah. As well as like I'm a **** I know I'm a **** freak. I know I'm a **** freak faggot. I could have told you that.

[23:10] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[23:10] Julian Manjerico: Who's just like so weird and loud and big and I'm not gonna show up and do that.

[23:16] Jayke Workman: Yeah you're huge.

[23:16] Julian Manjerico: Yeah. Yeah exactly because literally Cole will look at me with one look and like completely like.

[23:20] Jayke Workman: Oh yeah yeah yeah.

[23:20] Julian Manjerico: Decapitate me because of the escalates that the entire cast has now had.

[23:26] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[23:26] Julian Manjerico: Um so I showed up in the first two months I was kind of just in the background just being like hi hi it's so nice to meet and no one's like no one saw me act. I feel like everyone was kind of just like what the **** are you doing here? Like this guy is not funny he doesn't do anything. It wasn't until I kind of like started going on that I felt like I had a sense of like oh I can I can call this place like my home and I can.

[23:45] Jayke Workman: Take the space.

[23:46] Julian Manjerico: I can take the space.

[23:46] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[23:49] Julian Manjerico: Totally. It's kinda like when I first went on it was the the feeling was kind of just like okay let's see what let's see what you can do. Do it. You know it was like all the popular kids.

[23:58] Jayke Workman: At the sandbox going like let's see you throw that rock really far.

[24:03] Julian Manjerico: You know like and I.

[24:03] Jayke Workman: Hannah backstage like don't **** up.

[24:03] Julian Manjerico: That's where that's exactly what she does. I **** love her. I call her my sister um wife ex-wife nemesis.

[24:11] Jayke Workman: Beautiful.

[24:11] Julian Manjerico: Where we are everything and nothing to each other. I love that.

[24:16] Jayke Workman: Well I would imagine too like not only it being your first Broadway like experience.

[24:24] Julian Manjerico: Yeah.

[24:24] Jayke Workman: But to be in a show that is being looked at so so heavily and um it's like celebrated obviously but like you know you have literal movie stars and models and comedians coming backstage after every single show that would be daunting to then be like okay well if it's not them it's me I have to go on and actually do it.

[24:44] Julian Manjerico: Exactly. That's crazy.

[24:44] Jayke Workman: Yeah. What was your road to the show like?

[24:51] Julian Manjerico: I did the ABC Disney showcase thingy.

[24:57] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[24:57] Julian Manjerico: Do you know that it's like every year they uh cast like 10 people now they're doing um a mock pilot and they send it to a bunch of casting directors all the producers that they are friends with and like all the executives at ABC and I did that two two years ago now no actually a year ago now through that I met um Henry Russell Bergstein who is the amazing

[25:16] Julian Manjerico: I love you so much. This is your Tony speech.

[25:19] Jayke Workman: Yes, exactly. And I got a new manager, I got a new agency, and my manager is like really good friends with Henry.

[25:24] Julian Manjerico: So that's how it just became that. So just auditions and then they said, okay, it's you. And I love Henry so much because he works so fucking fast.

[25:32] Julian Manjerico: I auditioned the same day I got a call at night.

[25:36] Jayke Workman: Oh, my God.

[25:44] Julian Manjerico: Yeah, that's crazy. And I think it's also just because he knew me for a little bit because I did go in when it was off Broadway for the understudy.

[25:53] Julian Manjerico: Before all of this blew up. Yeah. And I went in and I brought, I didn't know what it was. I didn't know who Cole Escola was. I've never met them before.

[26:02] Julian Manjerico: And I showed up with like a huge drag-sized Abraham Lincoln hat. Top hat. I showed up with a whole like scarf as John Wilkes Booth because I thought he was like this eccentric actor kind of thing.

[26:16] Julian Manjerico: And I just like went for it. And I remember Sam Finkelton at the time he I had the Abraham Lincoln hat on. And then I did the scene once and he was like, it was awesome.

[26:26] Julian Manjerico: Let's try it again. Maybe take off that. And I was like, whatever. I was like, why not? Let me try it.

[26:32] Jayke Workman: Why not? That's fucking awesome.

[26:34] Julian Manjerico: Yeah, I have got to see I've only seen it once and I got to see Cole do it. I need to see Miss Jinx.

[26:40] Jayke Workman: She's so fucking good. I mean, she's just like an evil genius level where I'm like, what are you? Because you are not letting on what's going on.

[26:49] Julian Manjerico: What's going on in there. She remembers every single person's name. I did the show. I did Chicago with her and I never went on with her.

[27:02] Julian Manjerico: Yeah, tragically. But just her in the building, her energy. She was just so wonderful to everyone. And of course, you know, Chicago is no stranger to having like very big celebrities in the show and come to the show and whatever.

[27:14] Julian Manjerico: And she could not have been more lovely. Jinx, come on the pod, bitch.

[27:20] Julian Manjerico: And she also I met her. She did the show and then she came back like a year and a half later and came back. And I was sure she wouldn't remember who I was because I never went on with her.

[27:30] Julian Manjerico: I was just like lurking in the corners because that's what you do as a standby. And she immediately came over to me and was like, Jake, how are you?

[27:39] Jayke Workman: I was like, what? Incredible.

[27:40] Julian Manjerico: How are you? Incredible. And now look at her.

[27:43] Jayke Workman: And now look at her.

[27:44] Julian Manjerico: Oh, went down well. Mary Hill. It really is.

[27:47] Jayke Workman: Poor girl.

[27:48] Julian Manjerico: She's going to get it. Nothing going for her. We're going to link the GoFundMe after this. It's going to work for her eventually.

[27:53] Jayke Workman: Did you ever do the show with Bianca?

[27:55] Julian Manjerico: Did I ever do the show with. Yes, I did. When I went on.

[27:58] Julian Manjerico: Yeah, I did. I did. But with John Wilkes Booth and with.

[28:03] Jayke Workman: Oh, you don't really cross paths at all.

[28:05] Julian Manjerico: I did with Abraham, which was nice. But that was the day after the Tonys.

[28:09] Julian Manjerico: That's after Tony like Cole won their award. And then that night Conrad called out.

[28:16] Jayke Workman: Oh, my God.

[28:17] Julian Manjerico: I was still like drunk, basically.

[28:18] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[28:19] Julian Manjerico: And they were like, okay, so are you ready? And I went, let's fucking do it.

[28:23] Jayke Workman: Okay, God.

[28:24] Julian Manjerico: And what I love about Cole so much is that once they started to feel.

[28:30] Julian Manjerico: I feel like the consensus around the company, I think, was kind of like, how's this going to go? Like, how's Julian going to do Abraham, you know?

[28:38] Jayke Workman: Really?

[28:39] Julian Manjerico: I think so. I think it's all in my head as well. That's the thing. But I think that like.

[28:43] Julian Manjerico: It is like this gorgeous little twunk is going to be Abraham Lincoln. But I think like a lot.

[28:49] Jayke Workman: Well, I think Abraham, the way that he's funny is so different from how my John Wilkes Booth is funny.

[28:54] Julian Manjerico: Sure.

[28:55] Julian Manjerico: Which is like, you know, you have that heartfelt side of John that then turns into what I normally do, which is be the evil twink and just obsess over and just be like.

[29:02] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[29:03] Julian Manjerico: But with Abraham, I am kind of just like I think what makes him funny is just how just like old and like weird he is and how he's just fighting like hell to just suppress the fact that he's gay.

[29:15] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[29:16] Julian Manjerico: And it's getting a blowjob under the.

[29:18] Jayke Workman: Exactly that.

[29:19] Julian Manjerico: Yeah. And I think that everyone was just or I think it was just in the room where it was like, how is Julian going to do this?

[29:26] Jayke Workman: You know, like what?

[29:27] Julian Manjerico: What is it going to be? What your take is?

[29:29] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[29:30] Julian Manjerico: Because I think if you look at me, you could be like, I know how he's going to. I know what his John Wilkes Booth will kind of be like, you know?

[29:34] Jayke Workman: Sure, sure, sure.

[29:35] Julian Manjerico: But then after the first like two scenes or something, Cole, I could kind of feel they were like, oh, they can hold this room as Abraham.

[29:45] Jayke Workman: And they slowly started to like let me just have more space and more time.

[29:50] Julian Manjerico: Hell yeah.

[29:51] Julian Manjerico: And just get more laughs and just like really holding for the laughs for me.

[29:56] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[29:57] Julian Manjerico: Even though they just won a fucking Tony Award.

[29:58] Jayke Workman: That's so cool.

[30:02] Julian Manjerico: And the whole night is literally supposed to be about them. They were so selfless and they just let me just like fly.

[30:06] Jayke Workman: Wow.

[30:07] Julian Manjerico: And just be such a giving scene partner.

[30:09] Jayke Workman: That is so cool.

[30:10] Julian Manjerico: The night after they achieved greatness. It's incredible.

[30:13] Jayke Workman: And literally like their first experience of your performance in like in real time.

[30:20] Julian Manjerico: That is so cool. They are incredibly giving, incredibly caring.

[30:24] Jayke Workman: And I just love how.

[30:25] Julian Manjerico: Cole, come on the pod. Everyone, everyone in Oh, Mary! get on the pod.

[30:29] Jayke Workman: Yeah, again.

[30:31] Julian Manjerico: And she was a dream. And she said the same thing of just how like nobody can quite get over the like level of like genius that is Cole.

[30:42] Julian Manjerico: While also the balance of being just a gem of a human.

[30:47] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[30:48] Julian Manjerico: Which is so amazing. So humble. And I've said it so many times on the pod too.

[30:52] Julian Manjerico: But like I feel proud of Oh, Mary! and I have no part of it at all.

[30:57] Jayke Workman: But I just, it makes my heart so happy that number one, there are people employed.

[31:02] Julian Manjerico: But also that like a show written by and for queer people is getting its fucking flowers.

[31:10] Jayke Workman: Like it's just amazing.

[31:11] Julian Manjerico: And it's so, I think we forget sometimes like how special that is because everything is so commercial now and huge and like monopolized.

[31:22] Julian Manjerico: And they took this tiny little idea that they had and made a fucking Tony winning show.

[31:28] Jayke Workman: And I think that like, I think a lot of.

[31:31] Julian Manjerico: And you're part of it. I keep interrupting you.

[31:33] Jayke Workman: You're fine. You're good.

[31:35] Julian Manjerico: I think that like also people, so many different people come into this, the theater to watch it.

[31:43] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[31:44] Julian Manjerico: And you kind of look at them because I'm in the back of the house just watching sometimes.

[31:46] Jayke Workman: Totally.

[31:47] Julian Manjerico: And I look at them and I'm like, this is the scariest straight man that.

[31:49] Jayke Workman: You're going to hate it.

[31:50] Julian Manjerico: They're going to, we're going to hear an F slur tonight. It's going to come out and it's going to be from the audience, not from the people who are allowed to say it.

[31:57] Jayke Workman: And they just end up loving it.

[31:59] Julian Manjerico: And I think what I just, I just thought of this, like where there's no like, except like one scene at the very end, there's no kind of like stereotypical gayness about it.

[32:09] Julian Manjerico: It's just a bunch of, it's like a bunch of pastels.

[32:12] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[32:13] Julian Manjerico: Which gays would normally never do.

[32:14] Jayke Workman: Right.

[32:15] Julian Manjerico: And it's just a bunch of pastels on stage and everyone is just talking to each other.

[32:18] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[32:19] Julian Manjerico: There's no like flashes of like glitz and glam until the very end.

[32:23] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[32:24] Julian Manjerico: Or like dick and ass.

[32:25] Jayke Workman: Dick and ass.

[32:26] Julian Manjerico: Yeah. And I think that it's such an amazing thing for people that normally wouldn't support gay theater to just come and see and just be like, oh shit, they actually are funny.

[32:35] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[32:36] Julian Manjerico: Like I should give them a chance.

[32:37] Jayke Workman: And also we're, we're clearly saying, I say we, I'm in the play now.

[32:41] Julian Manjerico: Yeah.

[32:42] Julian Manjerico: We're saying that we're in on the joke.

[32:45] Jayke Workman: So you don't, you don't have any agency to make fun of it or, or to like look down on it because we already are.

[32:51] Julian Manjerico: Yeah.

[32:52] Jayke Workman: So laugh with us or not.

[32:53] Julian Manjerico: And they're gonna laugh with you because it's fucking ridiculous.

[32:56] Jayke Workman: Do you have a favorite part to perform?

[32:59] Julian Manjerico: That's a good one. Um, I think, well, my favorite part is John Wilkes Booth is a saloon scene because I get to just be ridiculous.

[33:07] Julian Manjerico: I get to just be completely myself and kind of the first two scenes in the office, I'm kind of hiding behind me wanting to just give off the sense that I'm the love interest, that I'm this dashing person that's going to come in and rescue her.

[33:22] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[33:23] Julian Manjerico: And take her away from all of this horrible thing, things. And it's not until the saloon scene that I get to kind of be funny because we're always taught, Sam always said, like, there's one clown in the show and it's Mary.

[33:34] Julian Manjerico: And when Mary's on stage, everyone else is the straight man.

[33:37] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[33:38] Julian Manjerico: And it's taught me so much about comedy because I'm normally just the clown.

[33:42] Julian Manjerico: I think our entire cast is just, everyone could be Mary, which makes it amazing.

[33:46] Jayke Workman: Absolutely.

[33:47] Julian Manjerico: So everyone is a clown, but I think through this process, everyone's been able to learn a different side of their comedy.

[33:54] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[33:55] Julian Manjerico: And for me, it wasn't until the saloon scene when it's like, when Mary's not on stage, then you can kind of be funny.

[34:00] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[34:01] Julian Manjerico: And that's when I get to just like, release it.

[34:03] Jayke Workman: Totally.

[34:04] Julian Manjerico: And be like, I'm glad everyone stayed with me on the ride.

[34:07] Jayke Workman: That is a tricky lesson to learn.

[34:09] Julian Manjerico: It's so tricky. I remember feeling that way working on a show where I was setting up all of the jokes.

[34:15] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[34:16] Julian Manjerico: And you have to, I had to grow to embrace the fact that without the setup, there is no joke.

[34:24] Jayke Workman: There's no laugh.

[34:25] Julian Manjerico: So I am aiding in getting the laugh, even if it doesn't feel like it's mine.

[34:28] Jayke Workman: But that's hard.

[34:29] Julian Manjerico: Isn't it? So it's such a mindfuck.

[34:31] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[34:32] Julian Manjerico: What's lovely is like, you know, Broadway, you do it eight times a week, and you can kind of see casts that come in, and they kind of, you know, not fight it, but they're like, there's curiosity of like, maybe I can do another joke.

[34:47] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[34:48] Julian Manjerico: In it before the punchline. And they do it, and the audience never laughs as much as when they fully just ate it.

[34:54] Jayke Workman: Yep.

[34:55] Julian Manjerico: And then the punchline happens, and it's a roar of a laugh.

[34:57] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[34:58] Julian Manjerico: It really is like amazing to see, because that's what I did when I first came in.

[35:01] Julian Manjerico: There's always like a curiosity of like, maybe I can find one more joke.

[35:04] Jayke Workman: Uh-huh.

[35:05] Julian Manjerico: But there is no more, there are no uncovered jokes.

[35:08] Jayke Workman: You're like, Mr. Pinkleton has taken care of it.

[35:10] Julian Manjerico: Yeah.

[35:11] Julian Manjerico: Like when they transferred to Broadway, Sam has said, we don't need any more jokes.

[35:15] Jayke Workman: We don't need any more.

[35:16] Julian Manjerico: No one needs to laugh more. There's a laugh every 10 seconds.

[35:19] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[35:20] Julian Manjerico: So it's been a lovely lesson to just be able to see like, if you just say the words, it takes care of itself.

[35:26] Jayke Workman: If it's good writing.

[35:27] Julian Manjerico: Yeah.

[35:28] Jayke Workman: And it sure is.

[35:29] Julian Manjerico: Wow.

[35:31] Jayke Workman: Okay. Well, switching gears a little, I would love to ask about your experience doing Adults, which is so cool.

[35:34] Julian Manjerico: And like in tandem with sort of like the through line of the things that you've been able to do in your career, that there is like a level of queer comfortability to it.

[35:43] Jayke Workman: And I'd love to know like, if that is something that you're drawn to in terms of projects, or if it has just happened that way.

[35:56] Julian Manjerico: And like, if you feel able to embrace that element of things, like being queer and being perceived as queer or not.

[36:06] Julian Manjerico: Yeah. I think what's lovely about the characters that I've been cast as, especially in this past year and a half of just kind of like, I would say a demon twink, is that like, I'm able to kind of be on the outside of it and kind of learn what it, learn the traits that all of like, like straight people can like make fun of gay people for certain things.

[36:35] Julian Manjerico: And also gay people can make fun of gay people for certain things.

[36:37] Jayke Workman: Oh, absolutely.

[36:38] Julian Manjerico: So it's been lovely to, especially as like a bisexual person to kind of like be able to feel like, I don't know.

[36:45] Julian Manjerico: I don't know how this is going to sound, but like separated from both the gay culture and straight culture.

[36:50] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[36:51] Julian Manjerico: I never really felt like I belonged to either completely. But because of that, I'm able to emulate.

[36:58] Julian Manjerico: I have some self tapes where I'm like a bro.

[37:01] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[37:02] Julian Manjerico: And it's like comedy because I'm able to be like, I'm not fully a part of it.

[37:07] Jayke Workman: Sure.

[37:08] Julian Manjerico: So I can make fun of it.

[37:09] Jayke Workman: Sure.

[37:11] Julian Manjerico: And the same with like gay culture as well.

[37:12] Jayke Workman: Love that.

[37:13] Julian Manjerico: If that makes sense.

[37:14] Jayke Workman: Yeah, definitely.

[37:22] Jayke Workman: Tea.

[37:23] Julian Manjerico: Right? That's so cool.

[37:25] Julian Manjerico: It's been nice to like be on the, be able to like be on the outside of emotions and outside of the culture.

[37:25] Jayke Workman: Is that offensive?

[37:26] Julian Manjerico: No, not at all.

[37:27] Jayke Workman: I mean, I don't think so. This is my damn podcast. We can say whatever we want.

[37:31] Julian Manjerico: But so in thinking that way, when you get to do a show like Adults, I just feel like it's so cool that it's so normal now.

[37:40] Jayke Workman: That like even, I mean, you know, people argue against like the validity or like the mainstream vibe of it all.

[37:47] Julian Manjerico: And like we're losing the texts.

[37:49] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[37:50] Julian Manjerico: The queer history is slipping away from us.

[37:54] Julian Manjerico: It's so normal now that like, yes, there are gay people on TV all the time or queer people on TV all the time. How was that experience for you, like being on set? It was fucking nuts because I showed up at the very end of the season when everyone's already bonded, everyone's a family. I showed up as the last guest star. And some of the guest stars that season were like Darcy Carden, Julia Fox, the hot one that plays Daredevil, Charlie Cox. And I show up and I'm like, and no one knows who I am. No one knows who I am, what I do. I was kind of... Yet. Yet. Sure. But for me, I'm like, and they're not gonna because I'm gonna get fired. And Nick... Cut for time, sorry. Nick Kroll was directing the episode that I was in.

That's insane. And the entire, most of the cast are just like amazing comedians that have like studied improv, like comedy, amazing actors that have gone to Juilliard. And like, it's incredible to see also people that didn't have a lot of credits to their name. All of the main series regulars are all people that are on their way up. Like up and coming, yeah. Which now they're kind of just famous, which is lovely. That like a show gave a chance to people that didn't have a claim to their name yet. Totally. But who are just as brilliant as someone who does. Exactly. Just need an opportunity to do it. So I'm glad that I am in that. And when I showed up, no one was like mean to me or anything, but I definitely felt like, what am I doing here?

We do the first scene, which was the wedding scene. And I think I had one line in that originally. And by the end of it, like Nick Kroll was just letting me again, do whatever I wanted to do. And I was improv-ing so much. And I, before each, um, before each shoot day, I would Google, um, bloopers of The Office, which is so weird, but I love it. It was like, I don't want to watch The Office to be like, oh, this is how to be funny. But like, I want to go in with the energy of just having fun on set and just like throwing shit at the wall. Exactly. Yeah. And because of that, every, like we were all like making each other laugh that day. And I was able to just like fully just feel at ease because it was just, oh yeah, this is all supposed to be just fun.

Yes. You know? And there, and the first rule I think of comedy is like, if you're having fun, then the audience is going to have fun. Absolutely. Yeah. So I, I really was able to just show up. I didn't know anything about the character, Zach Carlos, like, and I learned who he was through doing so much improv and being like, well, I guess that stuck. Well, it's this now. Yeah. Well, this is who he is. Jesus. Yeah. Oh my God. That's so funny. Wow. I can't imagine. I mean, being directed by someone like Nick Kroll, who like is such a comedic genius would be, I think daunting, but also it would probably feel like, well, at least I'm in good hands because this person clearly knows what he's doing.

Yeah. And he was true. He truly just felt like the father figure on set because it was just a bunch of people in their like late twenties, early thirties that are like running around, putting together a TV show, which was the best feeling ever. It felt like exactly when I did, um, the Disney showcase, because it was just a bunch of people in our late twenties, like doing a mock pilot together. And with, with adults again, if I was against like, or if I was up with, um, just a bunch of stars already. Yeah. That would have felt so much different than like what it was, which was just like, again, like a sandbox. And we all just got to play and just come up with amazing moments that like, so fun we can only find on the day.

Did all the gays absolutely flood your DMs when they saw your episode? Oh my God. It was very well. What was lovely was I used to work at Balthazar in Soho work. So I worked there for like two years serving like Anna Wintour. And I, the list is fucking crazy. It was amazing. I've only been there once, but we're twice now. Cause we're going this weekend for brunch. Thank God. Um, and it actually helped me so much. I felt like I went to grad school, going to Balthazar because I was able to just learn so much about improv and working with crazy characters, IE customers and like enormous celebrities. Yeah. So that when I meet Nick Kroll, I don't freak the fuck out. And I'm like, Oh, this is just a real person, you know?

Um, but I felt like, what was the question? I'm sorry. Well, I mean, I was going to ask to just like post that, like having done, Oh, that's what it was. Yes. Yes. I, um, I was, so I was at Balthazar and it's, Oh, I was at Balthazar and there was always like a celebrity that shows up and my way of food is love. Like love equals food for me, like sending out free shit and everything. And I would just love to do that. Um, cause it's like all these celebrities like made me so like Melissa McCarthy, like I would give her like free wine and like just as much free shit as I could because she's incredible. You're fired now. Yeah, I know. But what's lovely at Balthazar is they like, they really just like, they love doing that.

They love to, it's a French B show, but it might as well be Italian because like everyone's like, you know, eat more, eat more, come on, listen, no shit. Um, and then after my episode aired, I went to a restaurant with my friend from Balthazar and the host at the front desk, he like looked up at me and he was like, Oh my God, I just saw you on TV last night. And I went, Oh my God, I'm one of them now. Oh my God. You're the celebrity. I'm the celebrity. Holy. And they brought us to a VIP table where Cardi B sits. What the hell? Yeah. They sent out free appetizers, free desserts. I went, Holy hell. Karma bitch. Karma bitch. You're like, I worked for this moment. Yeah. And it was, and my friend was just speechless and he was like, I can't wait to tell everyone that this fucking happened.

That is so fucking funny. It was so crazy to see the difference of it. That's wild. Yeah. So have you, I mean, I'm not wishing any time soon that you would leave. Oh Mary, how dare, but if and when, uh, down the line you wanted to leave the show, do you have a specific role or show that you would love to do? It's interesting. Cause it's like, uh, the thing that I'm kind of locked into now in a great way is like, I can turn it on and again, be like a demon twink. Um, I love that that character is like ready to go whenever it needs to. Yeah. And I'm excited to keep seeing what that opens up for me because it seems like such an express pass, you know? Yeah. But I also am very happy. I'm very excited to show people like what else I can do.

You know? Um, yeah, maybe I'll be a straight asshole. I know. Oh God. He sold his soul again. I'll be a straight asshole. Yeah. But I, I think that, I don't know. I, I, you know, I love Jim Carrey. I love to see, I love to see that. I love to see a prosthetic every now and then. Oh yeah. So I can just completely again. Penis. Yeah, exactly. A prosthetic penis. Yes. That is so funny Jake. Oh my God. It's me transforming. It's like no one, you can't even tell it's me. I'm like, I'm doing, take me out and I'm going to need the prosthetic. Oh my God. I just love slipping into my character. Oh my God. Just two hours in the makeup trailer. Um, uh, I, yeah, I, I don't know. I think I just want to keep being the clown.

My manager now, he used to represent Titus Burgess and he has told me, he's like, you're like, you're very similar in the sense that you don't really like, you do transform, but you do this thing that is like, this is what I'm going to do. And it's either going to go really well or you're going to hate it. Sure. It's just finding the right project. That's going to take that. Like a Megan Stalter. Yeah. Oh my God. Ms. Megan Stalter is that where you're like, if you get it, you get it. And if you don't, yeah, you get out. Yes. And I've had like, I've had people in the past, a lot of people tell me, you know, dim it down, dim down what you're doing. Um, do this instead. If you want to be like a working actor, you can't only be a character actor, but like, I know, but it's the thing of like, it's like theater or it's film or it's TV.

And it's an escape for people to just like, forget about stuff for like 30 minutes. So like, why wouldn't I fully just like commit to something? Absolutely. And just have fun. Also, I feel like we're in an era now where things are, all of the things that are like receiving accolades and, you know, recognition and people are really loving are number one, mainly at least written or directed by some sort of queer identifying person. But also they are embracing that level of like, this is what this person's like amazing thing is. So we're going to do like hacks or like, yes. And I feel like it will take truly, I mean, as if you haven't already worked, but like, it'll take one like thing for you to just like, blow up, you know, and I think I've also said, I'm like, I hope I get to go back to like my college and be able to like do a Q and a with do a masterclass, because what I would say is just like, find the one thing that you do so well, yeah, that no one else can do as well as you.

And just ride that. Like, yeah, which is what I'm doing. Like when I first graduated, every role that I've gotten, has a sense of clown to it. And a sense of just me, just like, trusting that people are going to get it. Yeah, just jumping off the deep end. And for some other people, it'll be like, Shakespeare's the thing that I do well that no one else can do, you know, as good as me, bitch. I know, right? Me acting like even saying that, I'm like, holy hell, you could do that. Yeah, not I. Yeah, but just like, find what you genuinely want to do. What's going to make you happy? Yeah. Instead of you like, forming to what you think society needs. Absolutely. Because especially now, as we've seen with like Meg Stalter and like, people that are making their own series and own, you know, comedies and theater.

I mean, Cole, like Cole's someone who, in interviews, they've said like, I, an interviewer was like, what do you, like, have you ever tried to become like, a different type of comedy? And they were like, no, that's like me, like, trying to speak German. It's like, I can't speak German. So why would I try to emulate that? Like, I need to speak what I, the language that I know how to, that works for me. And that makes me laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I love that. Right. Julian, thank you so, so much for coming on the pod. Thanks for having me. You are such a treasure. Would you tell the listeners, where can they find you on the socials? You can find me on Instagram at, um, I was going to say Jeff Bezos.

Not true at all. What am I doing? Um, uh, J Manjurico. Elon Musk. Elon at Musk? Ugh. Elon. No. No. Um, it's, but it's Elon University. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Elon University. Everyone freaks out for a second. Yeah. Um, Instagram, J Manjurico, J M-A-N-J-E-R-I-C-O. And then an underscore. You can't forget about that underscore. Don't forget it. A lot of people do. Um, and that's where you'll find me. I mean, Instagram is the new LinkedIn, so. Period. Yeah. That's me. I just adore you. I adore you too, Jake. Thank you for being here. And everyone out there, Jake is incredible. You already knew that. I need to say that. And everyone out there. What are you, what are you drinking by the way? There's like a tint of yellow to it.

Oh yeah. I put lemon, um, in my little, um, sparkling water. Is it fresh lemon? No. Wait, it's the squeeze lemon? It's the squeeze lemon. Oh, come on. Jake. You guys, that's it for another episode of Oh My Pod, you guys. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe anywhere you listen to the pod. And you can follow the show on Instagram at Oh My Pod, you guys. Thanks so much for listening. Talk soon. Bye.