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[0:00] Jayke Workman: All right, you guys, this is going to be a crazy kooky special edition of the show. I'm so excited to offer you my very first bonus episode of the show featuring none other than Ryan Lowe and Ray Bokhour of Chicago the Musical on Broadway. Y'all, we recorded this ridiculous pod episode in their dressing room between shows on a Saturday, and it is kooky crazy, and I'm so excited for you to hear it. So without further ado, I present The Three Stooges.

[0:43] Jayke Workman: Oh my god, did you hear? Did you hear? Oh my god, guys. Oh my god, guys. Oh my god, you guys. Oh my pod, you guys. Oh my god, oh my god, you guys. I am so excited to welcome my next guests to the show, Chicago's own killer Dillers, those two scintillating sinners. I've never killed anyone. Ray Bokhour and Ryan Lowe. Oh my pod, you guys, this is too silly for words. We are reporting live from the dressing room, backstage in shows, backstage, Broadway, at the Ambassador Theatre on West 49th Street. We just did a show. You guys, I can't even believe I get to ask you about the podcast. I have so many things to ask you, but my first, you know, just thing that I have to tell you both is that I so admire you both for being in this show for so long and being so welcoming to me and all of the new people who come into this building because it can be scary and intimidating, but you guys are like the freaking cream of the crop best. Are you going to cry? I might cry, Ray. I'm not sure. Shut up.

[2:03] Ray Bokhour: Yes, well, you know, we're trying to be welcoming to everybody.

[2:09] Ryan Lowe: You made it easy for me.

[2:10] Ray Bokhour: Oh, you're sweet. You did. That's the thing. Such a kiss-ass. Specifically Ryan's hat.

[2:13] Ryan Lowe: And that's the thing. I mean, you have to come into this building and be willing to just go with the flow of stuff.

[2:18] Ray Bokhour: Right. We like when somebody comes in and there's no get to know you, period. You know, there is no, you know, what'd you do in your past life, that kind of stuff. No.

[2:30] Ryan Lowe: Right. And that was exactly what it was like with you. It's like you fit in from the beginning.

[2:35] Jayke Workman: Ah, you're too kind. I mean, there was no like, you know, hey, there was no like this week of getting to know you. No, you joked right away. You know, you were right there. I mean, we're doing this now.

[2:49] Ray Bokhour: Of course. It's funny because I think that I love you more today because I have never, we've never done the show together.

[2:59] Ryan Lowe: Right. You've always covered me.

[3:01] Ray Bokhour: Yes. Or Joseph. And Joseph has gone on. Right. Yes. And so I've never like been in the same building with you. And like all of a sudden we're in the same building. Finally. It's like I'm surprised it didn't explode. Or implode. Right. Lightning strikes as I step into the Ambassador Theater. Truly.

[3:22] Ryan Lowe: No, that's what I love. That's the thing I love most about people is when they can just fit in. And there's no, there's no like, like, you know, I would make a joke and someone would be like, what are you talking about?

[3:34] Ray Bokhour: Exactly. I would just make a joke back.

[3:38] Ryan Lowe: I have a lot of sympathy for shy people because it took me a while to kind of get comfortable in the cast when I joined in 1998.

[3:52] Ray Bokhour: Yes. Talk about it.

[3:52] Ryan Lowe: And you know, part of it was I had never done a Broadway show. I didn't know fully what was being expected of me. Yeah. Every way. I never won a mic. You know, like, what do you, you're taping what you, all this basic stuff. And I just didn't know how much I was allowed to, to joke around, or I didn't trust myself enough to joke around. So I, I tend to warm up to people who pass me in the hall and don't talk to me. I'm like, yeah, I know where that's coming from.

[4:19] Ray Bokhour: Well, I mean, it's silly too in this building because it's so damn small that there's, there's no place to hide. That's why I felt just like, if you're, if you're there, you are there. But I've loved it.

[4:31] Jayke Workman: Wait. Okay. So you touched on it a little bit, but you've been here since 98. When did you first come in Ryan?

[4:34] Ryan Lowe: Oh, wow. I mean, I'm surprised that I thought it was like a little later, but 98 was a tour. I did the tour for six months and then I was out of it for a year and a half. And then I guess the movie came out.

[4:47] Ray Bokhour: Oh yeah. The movie, they put the tour out again to capitalize on that.

[4:54] Ryan Lowe: And so I signed up and that was 2003. And I went out for a year and a half on that tour.

[5:01] Ray Bokhour: Wow. And then there was time before I came here and I would do two weeks here and there or whatever. I'm not sure when you joined.

[5:05] Ryan Lowe: Well, I joined in 2004.

[5:12] Ray Bokhour: Right. So my, my, well, I covered, I covered Jeff. I covered the, the standby for which you're doing now. I covered for two weeks and they actually ended up putting me on in 2004, August of 2004.

[5:19] Ryan Lowe: Was that a clerical error?

[5:25] Ray Bokhour: Uh, no, probably. I don't know. So actually it is, it's a great story. I'm not sure if I can tell it, but it is a great story.

[5:34] Ryan Lowe: Um, but now you have to.

[5:40] Ray Bokhour: Yeah, I know. Right. No, it was an understudy rehearsal that we were at. And I, of course, being the understudy, uh, had to be at this rehearsal. And so I did, and I had, I had seen how understudy rehearsals happen. They let you sing a little bit of a song and then, you know, and then they say, okay, moving on. Well, at this understudy rehearsal happened to be Walter Bobby, our director.

[6:02] Ryan Lowe: Wow.

[6:02] Ray Bokhour: And Belle Calloway. Do you remember Belle Calloway? She was my first Roxy. Yes. Yes. And she was, she was the standby for the Roxy at the time when they had that standby contract for Roxy Velma. Um, but she did it on tour.

[6:13] Ryan Lowe: And she did. Yes. Yeah. And well, she did a couple of times when I first came in as well. And then they got rid of the contract. She was great.

[6:22] Ray Bokhour: Oh yeah. I mean, just like brilliant. Like my husband, Kevin, he says every time he saw her, he says he couldn't, he was blown away by her. So, um, so we did the, we did the understudy rehearsal and I, you know, if it came to the part where Mary starts singing and what does she sing? Start with yes. And then

[6:42] Ryan Lowe: and then it's

[6:46] Ray Bokhour: so, so, so I thought it's all right. And so I thought, all right, when I was a tiny little, maybe two or three, I can do remember what my mother said to me. So I'm, I'm doing the whole thing. I'm waiting for say, okay, cut, move next. Nothing. It was, it was, I did the whole entire thing. I did the choreography. I went backstage. All of a sudden I hear Belle Calloway say, who the fuck was that?

[7:22] Ryan Lowe: And I hear Walter Bobby say, Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I back up just a second. Uh, after I was done, I hear Walter Bobby say, who the fuck was that? I hear Belle Calloway say, that was the fricking understudy. And then precisely in October of 2004, I, I ended up getting the role.

[7:41] Ryan Lowe: Wow. So October 10th. So, so October 10th of 2023, which we're now at October 14th of 2020, I would have been doing this show for 19 years if we hadn't had a pandemic. So 17 and a half years.

[7:55] Ray Bokhour: Yes. Yes. I've been around to Ray being in the show since 1998. Very different experiences because obviously the roles are so different. You, you can go in and out in different timeframes. And so you guys are always sort of like, you know, if, if they need someone, obviously there will be you to be like, Oh, we're here and we can do it. But how do you,

[8:19] Ryan Lowe: yes, you sure. Sure. And, and I am so grateful to, to have that, you know, to, to know that like, if they need someone, you know, that it's a thing that's still around.

[8:28] Ray Bokhour: That's like, we're so fortunate to have this show that has been a part of Broadway history for so long. It's crazy. It's really crazy that this thing exists and that I'm here. Right. Because at any given moment, how many Broadway theaters are there? There's what? 40?

[8:45] Ryan Lowe: 40 or something.

[8:45] Ray Bokhour: Yeah. And so any one of those shows that, that any one of those shows might have a slot that would fit someone like me is rare enough that I would get it is super rare. And then I, it would be the type of part that I haven't aged out of since I was 35 and I'm 58 is insane. So, and I also happen to be the type of person who likes repeating things again and again. Honestly, I'm a creature of habit. When I do a television thing, they're always like, okay, you know, come on to the set and you rehearse it once and then they're like, okay, we're going and you shoot it and then you're done.

[9:12] Ryan Lowe: Right. Wait, I want to get good at it first.

[9:28] Jayke Workman: How many takes of that Super Bowl commercial take?

[9:32] Ryan Lowe: Super Bowl commercial. Remember that? It was never on the Super Bowl. Do you mean the Miller Lite thing?

[9:38] Jayke Workman: I thought it was a Super Bowl thing. It wasn't a Super Bowl thing?

[9:42] Ryan Lowe: No, sadly, but it was a lot.

[9:46] Jayke Workman: No, they can bring it up, right? I mean, that was, that's where I first saw you in that.

[9:51] Ryan Lowe: Yeah, yeah. It was, they showed it a lot during basketball. It was a Miller Lite spot and it was 1998, actually. It was a good year for me. And then, yeah, they played that a lot. It was a Miller Lite commercial where I play a guy goes to the refrigerator and he pulls out a can or a bottle of Miller and he puts it on the counter and starts doing the twist, crazily. And then he keeps looking at the bottle and looking at the bottle and it zooms in and it says twist to open.

[10:19] Jayke Workman: So they put a tremendous amount on the sports thing. What was the other one?

[10:24] Ryan Lowe: Weren't you shirtless and had something on your chest?

[10:29] Jayke Workman: Often shirtless. There was another one, same time I booked an Adidas spot, although you kind of wouldn't know it because it just played for the Yankees. Adidas had just bought the spot.

[10:41] Jayke Workman: So, that was a fantastic 1998. It was a fantastic year for me in terms of luck. Because those commercials, I never would have gotten them if I got them consecutively. Like if I was kind of well known for the Miller spot, I wouldn't have also booked the Adidas spot or vice-versa. But I auditioned for both at the same time. And I booked them both at the same time. And they both became really popular. So I did very well that year.

[11:09] Ray Bokhour: I always knew you were a Yank guy.

[11:11] Ryan Lowe: Well, I know nothing about Yanks. I know nothing about baseball.

[11:13] Ray Bokhour: But we pretended. Yeah, so I don't know why we brought this up, but it was a big year for me. Oh, so that's how you knew me?

[11:41] Ray Bokhour: Because P.J. Benjamin was my first Amos in this building in 2004. But then you came in and I was like, oh. It's so good. It's so good. Not even just the vocals, not just the acting, but it's so comfortable. It feels so correct. How do you guys keep it fresh for yourselves after having done it so many times? Is it because the audience is new? Is it because there are all these new people?

[12:56] Ryan Lowe: I brush my teeth nine times a day. You know, I'm not a big fan of the fact that I'm a Yank.

[12:57] Ray Bokhour: I'm a Yank.

[12:58] Ryan Lowe: I'm a Yank.

[12:59] Ray Bokhour: I'm a Yank.

[13:01] Ryan Lowe: I'm a Yank. So, whatever technique you bring to opening night, it's the same technique. You keep doing that. It's the same thing. So, but you have to urge yourself to keep doing it. And you have to think, like, I must bring my A Game, uh, because these people are paying a hundred dollars to come see the show. And wouldn't it be awful if I didn't give... if I just said, "Fuck you, I'm taking your money..."

[13:25] Ray Bokhour: Right.

[13:26] Ryan Lowe: You know, and...

[13:27] Ray Bokhour: It's opening night every night, basically.

[13:28] Ryan Lowe: That's right. Because these people are all new. You know, every single audience, no matter how small or large, they're all new people. And some of these people may have not seen Chicago before.

[13:39] Ray Bokhour: Right.

[13:40] Ryan Lowe: You know, some of these people have seen Chicago...

[13:41] Ray Bokhour: Yeah, probably most of them.

[13:42] Ryan Lowe: ...ten times before. Can you tell me a story? You went out to do the Red Buckets and collect money for, uh...

[13:46] Ray Bokhour: Oh, I love doing that.

[13:47] Ryan Lowe: Yeah. And some woman pulled you aside and she said, "My husband and I had tickets to see this show."

[13:53] Ray Bokhour: Right. I remember that.

[13:54] Ryan Lowe: And we've had them for weeks. And then what did she say?

[13:56] Ray Bokhour: Uh... she got cancer, right?

[13:58] Ryan Lowe: He got cancer.

[13:59] Ray Bokhour: He got cancer. That's what I just said. And then he died.

[14:02] Ryan Lowe: Right. And she came to see the show and sat next to an empty chair because it made her feel like she was with him...

[14:05] Ray Bokhour: Wow.

[14:06] Ryan Lowe: ...and he was there honoring that date. And I heard that story and we were both, you and me both, were like, "That's why you do your day-to-day at every single show." And when you don't, you don't do your day-to-day at every single show.

[14:11] Ray Bokhour: Wow. I'm very disappointed, I was going to say I don't have respect for people who don't.

[14:27] Ryan Lowe: Yeah. But I'm extremely disappointed when I hear somebody say, "This audience is terrible."

[14:34] Ray Bokhour: Yeah.

[14:35] Ryan Lowe: And you're like, "Go out there and make them good." They're terrible because you're not doing your job right.

[14:42] Ray Bokhour: I didn't get a laugh.

[14:44] Ryan Lowe: Well, be funnier. Keep trying until bows. Period. At the end of bows. Then you can do it.

[14:51] Ray Bokhour: Yeah, maybe. But still, it's like if you went to a doctor and the doctor was like, "Oh, what a crappy patient." They still have rickets.

[15:00] Ryan Lowe: Rickets. Give them frickin' climate B or whatever they're supposed to be. Period. Period. Do your job.

[15:05] Ray Bokhour: That's right. It is, it's, I mean, and you hit on that point too, it is a different audience every night. You know, it's, you know, you, as you know, you know, you can do your makeup different every night. You can sing in a different way every night or try to sing in a different way every night.

[15:27] Ryan Lowe: Yeah. So, and that's the thing. And also just, I think it comes down to just loving the art form.

[15:33] Ray Bokhour: Yeah.

[15:34] Ryan Lowe: As well. I mean, I do. I love this art form so much that I can stay in this and not be bored, for one, because like Ray said, I mean, it's like we get that, we get that question all the time. Like, how do you keep this stuff fresh? Because we love it. Right. This is, this is our soul. You know, we're fulfilling this, this soul by doing this role and, or just perform it.

[16:02] Ray Bokhour: I mean, I always told people, I don't want to be famous. I don't, I don't want to be rich. I mean, Lord knows we're not, but I just, I just, I just want to pay my bills by being on Broadway, being an actor, you know, and that's what this is. That's what this is doing. I mean, I'm not, no one knows who the hell, you know, Mary is when I walk out the door. I mean, I walk out and most people are like, "Well, how was that?" You know, that's everything. Because I'm not in makeup. I'm not in a wig. You know, all that kind of stuff. I'm famous for 10 feet. And then when I get past that, all the videos are like, "Fresh as ever." But hey, that's kind of the way to do it. My God. They're like, "Okay, this is so lovely. Thank you so much for clapping. I will now go and be a human outside of this building."

[16:46] Jayke Workman: Well, you guys are so lucky to have had this show, but I also know that you guys both have, you know, extracurriculars that you guys have focused on throughout your lives and your careers and you have families and, and, you know, animals and everything. So like, how do you, what is, how do you sort of strike the balance between like, you know, I've spoken to a few people who sort of refer to it as like the golden handcuffs of Broadway. Like when you're here, you are here. It is all encompassing, but you guys are such, I mean, like Ray, I know that you have like composed and written plays and like, like Ryan with like singing opera and training outside of just one show for so long. How do you sort of keep those things alive?

[17:31] Ray Bokhour: Well, I have no, I mean, we've worked together on a show you wrote called The Scream.

[17:38] Ryan Lowe: That's right.

[17:39] Ray Bokhour: Which you wrote for, for, I mean, I know you wrote my part, at least for me while you were here. I remember you asking Simon or me actually, you know, how high can you sing? I'm like, well, maybe, but I see, but you know, and then Simon wrote this, this amazing music stuff and you wrote the lyrics and we've done it a couple of times now and, uh, I write backstage. I mean, Amos has 15 minutes of stage time and it's talked about a lot and that stage time tends to be solo, but, um, uh, but I come back and I'll, I'll write with my partners who, uh, one's a composer and one's a librettist and I'm a lyricist and, and so we've written now two musicals and a play and, uh, are working on the next musical. So that's part of what keeps me, I mean, backstage is always different for me. Well, people might know, well, I mentioned the, um, the, um, the Sherlock. And I produced a show. I produced a Broadway show called The Sherlock Carol, which I really love.

[18:45] Ryan Lowe: Oh yeah.

[18:46] Ray Bokhour: At New World Stages, correct?

[18:47] Ryan Lowe: They did it in London. Broadway licensing.

[18:49] Ray Bokhour: Yes. Go there and do it in your own show. Do it in your own theater. It's a combination of, I didn't write this one, but, uh, Mark Shanahan wrote it and it's quite brilliantly written combo of, um, The Christmas Carol and a Sherlock Holmes play. So, uh, so that, you know, I've, I've done a lot of other things and this show also allows me to do that, which is another rarity.

[19:11] Ryan Lowe: Yeah.

[19:12] Ray Bokhour: But, um, because a lot of times, you know, I've got, you know, you'd have costume changes and you'd have to put on makeup and you're on stage a lot and, you know, not for this. I can come in, throw on the sweater, and then I'm sitting there staring at my computer. You can't, you can't get, you can't get my attention.

[19:27] Ryan Lowe: Listen to me, bitch.

[19:28] Ray Bokhour: Pretend to listen to you, bitch.

[19:29] Ryan Lowe: And, uh.

[19:30] Ray Bokhour: Pretend. Let me make that clear. Pretend to listen to you.

[19:33] Ryan Lowe: Right, right.

[19:34] Ray Bokhour: Cover up, bitch.

[19:35] Ryan Lowe: Cover up, bitch.

[19:36] Ray Bokhour: No, uh, so that's one thing. I never have a problem, you know, balancing my family life, because that's all I do.

[19:39] Ryan Lowe: Sure.

[19:40] Ray Bokhour: You know, I've got a kid, I have a wife. But I took a year off last year because my kid was starting a new high school that was an hour away from my house.

[21:24] Ray Bokhour: I know it's a podcast, you can't see it, but that's the tutorial. I just tilt back and forth and wiggle my head.

[21:30] Ryan Lowe: Well, and you and Christine met?

[21:32] Ray Bokhour: We met during this show. She was going to Hell Kitty on that tour.

[21:35] Ryan Lowe: Right.

[21:36] Ray Bokhour: Well, we met in '99 and then we hooked up in 2003.

[21:42] Ryan Lowe: Yes!

[21:43] Ray Bokhour: That's where I was on the tour for a year and a half. That's the other thing about this show.

[21:48] Ryan Lowe: This show has had so many couples brought together.

[21:55] Ray Bokhour: Has bought so many houses for said couples. I'm looking for one now too. But that's the thing about a show that has been running for 27 years on Broadway.

[22:08] Ryan Lowe: 27 years! November 14th, it'll be 27 years.

[22:11] Ray Bokhour: That's crazy. It's absolutely insane. Now that Phantom is closed, we're the longest running Broadway show on Broadway.

[22:19] Ryan Lowe: But we're also the second longest running Broadway show ever.

[22:22] Ray Bokhour: Ever! Which is insane. And I kind of feel like, and you guys are both probably going to barf in your mouths when I say this.

[22:29] Ryan Lowe: But I kind of feel like a very special bond or like, I don't know, some sort of kismet situation with this show.

[22:37] Ray Bokhour: Because I'm 27. I was born in 1996.

[22:41] Ryan Lowe: Oh my God!

[22:42] Ray Bokhour: And I turned 25 the year that it was the 25th anniversary of the show. And I always said that I wanted to make my Broadway debut by the time I was 25.

[22:52] Ryan Lowe: And I got to do it in this show on its 25th birthday. And so it was like kind of a weird, like now I just feel so connected to it because of the timing.

[23:02] Ray Bokhour: But I mean, I even, I was so fortunate to overlap very briefly while Ms. Annie Reinking was still alive. I got to do the tour first and she sent us letters for our opening of that tour.

[23:17] Ryan Lowe: And I just, I will always treasure that because it's such an iconic, I mean she is, you know, the icon of this show. And she lives in the show.

[23:24] Ray Bokhour: But yeah, I don't know, to get to like have like a little tangible piece of history with that letter of her. And then, you know, to know that like this show happened in the same time that like I stepped into this world is very bizarre.

[23:39] Ryan Lowe: But I'm happy to be here.

[23:41] Ray Bokhour: Yeah, it's bizarre. I'm thinking of very much of people I know who are brilliant who don't have this connection.

[23:48] Ryan Lowe: And I think to myself, that's, it's so okay.

[23:54] Ray Bokhour: Like it's not as 100% life affirming, fulfilling as, I don't mean to sound, what's the word, unappreciative or anything.

[24:05] Ryan Lowe: Oh yeah.

[24:06] Ray Bokhour: But it can't be the kind of thing where like, you know, this is, when you watch the Oscars, it used to be like if you watched David Niven's Oscars or something in the like early 70s.

[24:19] Ryan Lowe: Somebody would win and they'd stand up and they'd say, thank you so much for this wonderful honor. And they'd go and sit down.

[24:25] Ray Bokhour: They'd thank a few people. But now they got to be where, you know, they're crying and they're saying you love me, you really love me.

[24:32] Ryan Lowe: And they're like their whole life is validated by the fact that they got this Oscar, which, you know, some people get the Oscar who are either terrible people or miserable people or not brave necessarily.

[24:46] Ray Bokhour: And you kind of have to take all that stuff. For me, I have to take getting this job with a certain amount of, well, a lot of humility and a certain grain of, like, I want to appreciate absolutely everything.

[24:58] Ryan Lowe: Because like I started by saying, it's really rare and it's great and I work my ass off to get it.

[25:02] Ray Bokhour: Yeah. But sometimes people fall into it that, you know, or some people have it and they don't appreciate it.

[25:08] Ryan Lowe: Or it's just a gig to them.

[25:09] Ray Bokhour: Yeah. You know, it's just another job. The thing that makes it valuable is that I care about it and I want to do it and I try and do it well.

[25:19] Ryan Lowe: I do get to work with great people. I have an audience every night.

[25:23] Ray Bokhour: Yeah. Which I know a lot of people kill to have. Totally. Because it's what we do for a living, right?

[25:29] Ryan Lowe: So that's miraculous. And at the same time, there are some people who just don't appreciate that and come in and say, oh, this is a stepping stone for me.

[25:37] Ray Bokhour: This is another job.

[25:38] Ryan Lowe: Exactly. This isn't their soul fulfilling moment.

[25:41] Ray Bokhour: Right. Which it is, I think, for both of us.

[25:44] Ryan Lowe: Yeah. And there's been a few other people that have come into this show and that's what I've felt from them.

[25:50] Ray Bokhour: Mm-hmm. You know? And those are the people that I gravitate towards.

[25:54] Ryan Lowe: Yeah. Listen, I'm so sorry I have to go early, but you guys, please take over.

[25:58] Ray Bokhour: You are so fine. Thank you so much for being here, Mr. Ray McCord.

[26:03] Ryan Lowe: It's rampant.

[26:06] Ray Bokhour: You guys can now talk about me.

[26:10] Ryan Lowe: Leave.

[26:11] Ray Bokhour: You leave.

[26:12] Ryan Lowe: I thought he'd never go.

[26:13] Ray Bokhour: I have so much to say about Ray McCord.

[26:17] Ryan Lowe: I love you both.

[26:18] Ray Bokhour: Love you.

[26:21] Ryan Lowe: Well, obviously, we could talk forever about the good and the fabulousness. But before I let you go, I do have to ask you.

[26:31] Ray Bokhour: I mean, I would imagine that having been here for so long, there have had to have been some instances where things went a little wrong.

[26:40] Ryan Lowe: Oh.

[26:41] Ray Bokhour: Oh, God. Would you care to share?

[26:43] Ryan Lowe: With me?

[26:44] Ray Bokhour: I don't know. With me or talk about other people? If you have a favorite mishap on stage.

[26:51] Ryan Lowe: I remember the second night I was ever here, I tripped down the stairs in the middle of the song.

[26:57] Ray Bokhour: I know.

[26:58] Ryan Lowe: 8,000 stairs. Those stairs are the bane of my existence.

[27:00] Ray Bokhour: Yes. No, I was told to not look down when I walked down the stairs.

[27:04] Ryan Lowe: Yep.

[27:05] Ray Bokhour: And I'm like, you're not a man in heels. So, yes, I need to look down.

[27:09] Ryan Lowe: So, I'll be looking.

[27:10] Ray Bokhour: And I'm like, why? Because only you can see the top of your head.

[27:12] Ryan Lowe: And I'm like, it's in a way. Everybody can see the top of my head.

[27:17] Ray Bokhour: So, no, yes, no. I think one of the first couple of weeks I was in, I didn't know how to walk in heels, basically.

[27:26] Ryan Lowe: Correctly, at least.

[27:28] Ray Bokhour: And I ran out at the end of the show for my bow in heels. And one of my heels, I was heel-toe, heel-toe, instead of walking flat-footed out for the bow as a quote-unquote man would do.

[27:44] Ryan Lowe: And my heel of this shoe hit a razzle.

[27:49] Ray Bokhour: Oh, no.

[27:50] Ryan Lowe: And I slid into home base, basically, from my bow.

[27:53] Ray Bokhour: Slid right into splits.

[27:55] Ryan Lowe: Yes, that's the thing. And you always walk out and you always have this, what's the next word?

[28:03] Ray Bokhour: There are some times when your brain isn't working right one day.

[28:07] Ryan Lowe: Oh yeah.

[28:08] Ray Bokhour: And you say those lines and you don't remember that next word, at least, until the very last minute.

[28:15] Ryan Lowe: Oh yeah.

[28:16] Ray Bokhour: I've only messed up a little bit of good once. Where I've been like...

[28:22] Ryan Lowe: But those are the only things that I can really kind of...

[28:32] Ray Bokhour: I mean, there's been a lot of stuff that has happened to other people that I won't get into.

[28:38] Ryan Lowe: But, yeah, I mean, we're humans.

[28:40] Ray Bokhour: Yeah. You know?

[28:42] Ryan Lowe: Yeah.

[28:43] Ray Bokhour: I just hope that people can remember that we are still humans.

[28:46] Ryan Lowe: Yes, we only do this one time a night.

[28:48] Ray Bokhour: But apparently it was... I dated a psychologist. One of my first partners was a psychologist.

[28:55] Ryan Lowe: And he said that an actor who does a Broadway show...

[29:01] Ray Bokhour: I guess there was a scientific study about this. An actor who does a Broadway show every night is equal to eight hours of work a day.

[29:09] Ryan Lowe: I mean...

[29:10] Ray Bokhour: Or any quote-unquote normal job, basically.

[29:13] Ryan Lowe: Right.

[29:14] Ray Bokhour: And it is because you're on. You're on. We are on from the moment we walk in this theater.

[29:19] Ryan Lowe: That level of concentration is different than being able to take those little tiny micro-breaks that you probably wouldn't even clock if you were working an eight-hour stretch.

[29:28] Ray Bokhour: Right.

[29:29] Ryan Lowe: Because there is so much downtime for most of the jobs that we've never talked about.

[29:33] Ray Bokhour: Well, even in downtime, I mean, yes, we sit up here for... You know, Marys, they sit up here for a while during Act Two.

[29:40] Ryan Lowe: But you also have to be clued in to what's going on on stage.

[29:44] Ray Bokhour: I mean, there have been many times where I've actually sung the beginning of Little Bit of Good...

[29:50] Ryan Lowe: In the stage manager's office.

[29:52] Ray Bokhour: Because I've been chatting with someone, but I have that in my ear.

[29:55] Ryan Lowe: Right.

[29:56] Ray Bokhour: But I also want to finish that conversation. You know, that sort of thing.

[30:00] Ryan Lowe: Punctuate it with a little troll.

[30:02] Ray Bokhour: Right. Backstage.

[30:04] Ryan Lowe: And then run on stage.

[30:05] Ray Bokhour: Yes.

[30:06] Ryan Lowe: So, yeah, there was one time I think I did it on my back or something like that.

[30:09] Ray Bokhour: Just to be stupid. You know, I love being stupid.

[30:12] Ryan Lowe: Just doing a yoga pose.

[30:13] Ray Bokhour: Yes, right. Exactly.

[30:17] Ryan Lowe: Well, Ryan, thank you so, so much for being a part.

[30:21] Ray Bokhour: Thank you. This was so fun.

[30:23] Ryan Lowe: And I truly am just so grateful to know you and to have you in my life.

[30:28] Ray Bokhour: It's been amazing to actually get to know you as well, considering that we've never really kind of shared the building together.

[30:34] Ryan Lowe: I know.

[30:35] Ray Bokhour: But you're amazing and you're so sweet.

[30:37] Ryan Lowe: And I hear just the most...

[30:40] Ray Bokhour: Oh.

[30:41] Ryan Lowe: Who's here?

[30:42] Ray Bokhour: Oh, look, we have...

[30:43] Ryan Lowe: Go to Hell Kitty.

[30:44] Ray Bokhour: Hello, Ms. Jessica.

[30:48] Ryan Lowe: Go to Hell Kitty comes in and she just kind of slides down.

[30:52] Ray Bokhour: She takes over the banister and into a...

[30:54] Ryan Lowe: Right, right.

[30:57] Ray Bokhour: I love it.

[30:58] Ryan Lowe: But I'm tough.

[30:59] Ray Bokhour: Black.

[31:00] Ryan Lowe: What was your favorite thing about Go to Hell Kitty?

[31:04] Ray Bokhour: What's not to like about Go to Hell Kitty?

[31:06] Ryan Lowe: You've put me on the spot.

[31:07] Ray Bokhour: What, what?

[31:08] Ryan Lowe: I can tell you.

[31:09] Ray Bokhour: I don't think this is my podcast.

[31:13] Ryan Lowe: No, I'm kidding.

[31:14] Ray Bokhour: She introduces the show and then she slides down the banister very well every night.

[31:19] Ryan Lowe: Yes.

[31:20] Ray Bokhour: Now you say that, now it's going to happen later.

[31:26] Ryan Lowe: And that's how Jessica died.

[31:27] Ray Bokhour: This is the last time you've ever heard her say this for posterity.

[31:33] Ryan Lowe: Ladies and gentlemen, Jessica Erd is dead.

[31:37] Ray Bokhour: You guys, that is it for the first ever bonus episode of Oh My Pod.

[31:42] Ryan Lowe: I hope you guys enjoyed.

[31:44] Ray Bokhour: Let me know if you enjoy the sort of on-site kookiness of it all.

[31:50] Ryan Lowe: I'm looking forward to doing more bonus content for everybody.

[31:54] Ray Bokhour: And I love you all. Thank you so much for listening.

[31:57] Ryan Lowe: Talk soon.

[31:58] Ray Bokhour: Bye.

[31:59] Ray Bokhour: Oh My Pod.

[32:00] Ray Bokhour: Oh My Pod, you guys.