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[0:00] Jayke Workman: And I'm actually a second choice.

[0:02] PJ Adzima: Oh, well, I guess I'm talking about being a second choice. I could be a third choice. I don't know.

[0:05] Jayke Workman: And who was ahead of you?

[0:07] PJ Adzima: Annette Benning.

[0:09] Jayke Workman: I'm really glad it's Patty.

[0:16] PJ Adzima: Oh my god, did you hear? Did you hear? Did you hear?

[0:19] Jayke Workman: Oh my god, guys.

[0:23] PJ Adzima: Oh my god, I'm just gonna be here.

[0:28] Jayke Workman: Oh my god, oh my god, you guys! What is up, everybody? My name is Jayke Workman, and this is Oh My Pod U Guys, a musical theater and pop culture podcast.

[0:39] Jayke Workman: You guys, this week was a very special week because at the time of this recording, it was just my 28th birthday.

[0:50] Jayke Workman: I know, I know. Can you believe someone as vibrant and youthful as me is 28 years old? It's horrible.

[1:01] Jayke Workman: I'm just kidding, it's not horrible. But um, it is kind of crazy to me. 28 years old. Wow.

[1:06] Jayke Workman: And I had an amazing celebratory week with some incredible friends of mine. We are gearing up to do a show at 54 Below called Thank Goodness. Shout out to my darling Colin Kurth, who is music directing this incredible show.

[1:20] Jayke Workman: So we had rehearsal for that. I went to Fire Island for the first time this week with my beautiful friends Emily Trent and Tony, and we had a gorgeous, gorgeous time. It was truly the best little pre-birthday celebration.

[1:33] Jayke Workman: And then I got to see, finally, I got to see Cole Escola star in their own show on Broadway. Oh Mary. You guys, O'Mary, it needs to win everything.

[1:49] Jayke Workman: Cole has to win the Tony for playing Mary Todd Lincoln in O'Mary. It is unbelievable. It's unlike anything I've ever seen. I genuinely think it's the funniest play I have ever seen. It's brilliant.

[2:06] Jayke Workman: It's vaudeville, it's sketch comedy, it's little vignettes, it's physical comedy. The writing is ridiculous and anachronistic, which is just perfect for the style. It's genius.

[2:17] Jayke Workman: I cannot encourage you enough to get tickets to see O'Mary at the Lyceum Theater on Broadway. And I just want to say a huge thank you to all of the wonderful, wonderful people who sent me lovely birthday messages.

[2:33] Jayke Workman: It is not lost on me how lucky I am to have so many amazing people in my life who show me such love and make me feel so, so loved. So thank you to all the people near and far who sent me messages. I just adore you all.

[2:49] Jayke Workman: And with that, you guys, we have to dive right into this week's Broadway World recap, brought to you by my amazing pals at Broadwayworld.com. First, you guys, Broadway World shared the very exciting announcement that Moulin Rouge on Broadway is set to welcome three new principals to their show.

[3:05] Jayke Workman: Soleya Pfeiffer, John Cardoza, and Pepe Munoz are all going to join the show in October. You guys, Soleya Pfeiffer as Satine. Are you kidding me? She's insane. I saw her as Eva Perón at City Center, and I was absolutely shook to my core. Obsessed with Miss Soleya.

[3:27] Jayke Workman: I have to see this. Also, John Cardoza joining as Christian. John Cardoza. When I tell you, he was the most incredible part of The Notebook on Broadway. I mean, incredible.

[3:41] Jayke Workman: I'm getting ahead of myself. Joy Woods, of course, slays. Duh, everyone knows. John Cardoza, do not sleep on him. He is out of this world, and he is going to absolutely sing the role of Christian down.

[3:53] Jayke Workman: And then Mr. Pepe Munoz as Santiago. Gorgeous. I mean, my God. The face, the body, the voice, you guys. Hello. Hello, Pepe. I cannot wait. These three are joining the show on October 15th.

[4:10] Jayke Workman: Soleya is replacing our Queen JoJo. We're sad to see her go. But um, so excited for Soleya, John, and Pepe to get to join this amazing production.

[4:22] Jayke Workman: Next, you guys, it was announced that Gray Henson is going to lead Elf the Musical on Broadway this holiday season in a very limited engagement, which begins November 9th. Okay, let me just tell you.

[4:33] Jayke Workman: Well, first of all, I met Gray for the first time yesterday on my birthday on a boat in the Hudson River. Hello, Gray. And when I tell you he was the absolute sweetest, he was so kind and asked me about Foul Play, and you know, we just chit-chatted for a moment.

[4:53] Jayke Workman: And that is where our love affair began. But I cannot wait to see him play Buddy the Elf in Elf the Musical, the revival on Broadway. I think this is actually a really genius business decision that people are making.

[5:14] Jayke Workman: The show is gonna be great, and I think it's a genius way to do a holiday show, especially in the Broadway market. Other than like Radio City, there really isn't the classic holiday show seasonal vibe anymore. So I think this is amazing.

[5:28] Jayke Workman: And Gray is just delightful and is going to be such a perfect Buddy the Elf. He's also just so dreamy. Gray, if you're listening, hi. But yeah, congratulations. I can't wait to see the show.

[5:42] Jayke Workman: Next, you guys, we of course have to talk about the passing of one absolute titan of the industry, Mr. James Earl Jones passing away at the age of 93. James Earl Jones was, of course, known for his iconic roles as Darth Vader in Star Wars and voicing Mufasa in The Lion King, but he was also a Tony and Emmy Award winner.

[6:03] Jayke Workman: He was an EGOT. I mean, he literally had an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony. He has been a Broadway performer his entire life. And so we, of course, have to honor him. They had a beautiful little tribute to him on the marquee of the James Earl Jones Theater on Broadway.

[6:24] Jayke Workman: But just, you know, wishing his family and everyone who knew him condolences. What an icon and what a legend. He's just incredible. So may he rest in peace.

[6:38] Jayke Workman: And you guys, this has been the BroadwayWorld Recap. Oh My Pod U Guys, I am so excited to welcome my next guest to the show. He is a star of the stage and screen, and the creator of one downtown variety show, Stage Time. Please welcome Mr. PJ Adzima.

[6:56] PJ Adzima: Hey!

[6:58] Jayke Workman: Hi! Welcome to the podcast.

[7:00] PJ Adzima: It's my pleasure to be here. Thank you very much for it.

[7:01] Jayke Workman: I'm so excited you're here. I can't believe, well, I mean, we wanted to do this for a while, but I'm so excited. We have so much to talk about.

[7:07] PJ Adzima: We really do. I'm so thrilled to be here. I have to just start by saying I like it's hilarious to me that we worked across the street from each other forever and never crossed paths.

[7:20] Jayke Workman: This is actually a huge, this is a great jumping off point for me because I find that that's like the most insane thing about Broadway to me.

[7:28] PJ Adzima: Yes.

[7:28] Jayke Workman: Is the zero overlap.

[7:30] PJ Adzima: Right.

[7:30] Jayke Workman: And I've kind as we'll find out in this conversation, that's kind of my entire like soapbox.

[7:36] PJ Adzima: Right.

[7:36] Jayke Workman: Like we are one incredible community, and how we are siloed is not just weird, but detrimental to the industry as a whole.

[7:45] PJ Adzima: It's really, it's insane.

[7:47] Jayke Workman: It's so strange. I mean, there is like I've thought of it in so many different ways, but like the financial gatekeeping of Broadway and what it means to even just like go and see my friends in shows.

[8:00] PJ Adzima: Correct.

[8:00] Jayke Workman: Where I'm like, I can't, I love you and I want to support you. I cannot pay $90 to come and see your show, which is crazy.

[8:08] PJ Adzima: But also the like weird sort of gatekeeping, even of like the stage door and like what it means to like you go into your show and I go into mine, and there's like such a weird culture around like well, it's interesting because it's a luxury industry.

[8:23] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[8:24] PJ Adzima: Theater is a luxury commodity, right?

[8:25] Jayke Workman: Um, and so it's built around that exclusivity.

[8:28] PJ Adzima: The whole financial model of a hit only works because you can't get a ticket.

[8:32] Jayke Workman: It's why those Marilee tickets were $500 million.

[8:36] PJ Adzima: But that's the model, right? Is that like that's the gamble is it's finite, so it has to be full in order to make a profit.

[8:42] Jayke Workman: Right.

[8:43] PJ Adzima: But because it's finite, when you're making a profit, you're making a profit.

[8:47] Jayke Workman: And that's and that's what's like so that's what's so interesting about it being an exclusive art form, but being a working class industry.

[8:57] PJ Adzima: Yes.

[8:57] Jayke Workman: Like to actually participate in the industry, we are it's a blue collar job.

[9:02] PJ Adzima: I call I call it literally exactly.

[9:04] Jayke Workman: I just talked to Marianne Lamb like two hours ago.

[9:07] PJ Adzima: Yeah.

[9:07] Jayke Workman: And she was like, we are all blue collar workers.

[9:10] PJ Adzima: It's huge.

[9:11] Jayke Workman: And it's that. It is. And I think that that's great.

[9:13] PJ Adzima: And I think that's why we we you know, we just have celebrated Labor Day and like our unions are important and thinking of ourselves as a community of workers, like we make money with our bodies.

[9:23] PJ Adzima: Yes. We are labor.

[9:25] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[9:25] PJ Adzima: And if we cannot do the job that day, we do not get paid. Like that is the gig.

[9:29] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[9:31] PJ Adzima: And taking it off of its pedestal and having those frank conversations about the difficulties of it and the realistic challenges that present themselves to live this life to pursue this art and to live in this community.

[9:46] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[9:47] PJ Adzima: It's something that we again should be meeting together and talking about. It's why we should be mixing and mingling and being friends.

[9:54] Jayke Workman: And but it's the big man with the stick who keeps us apart.

[9:58] PJ Adzima: No, it's a million things that keep that keep us apart.

[10:01] PJ Adzima: I'm really passionate about getting people together. That's really that's really my whole spiel with the company I started, Stage Time.

[10:11] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[10:11] PJ Adzima: So I've been I I've I've been doing that for now for the past year, and it's been the most rewarding work is just getting those rooms and building those spaces for people to gather.

[10:20] Jayke Workman: Well, I mean, of course we are going to speak about Stage Time, but before we do, I wanna ask about your sort of um or like maybe the source of your boldness in terms of advocacy and and speaking out about things that you believe in because something that I've really been drawn to about you and and your social media presence is that you don't ever or from what I can tell you don't ever shy away from saying what you actually think and I think there's an interesting like intersectionality between that and being in a show like The Book of Mormon which really is a we're putting it all out on the line.

[11:01] PJ Adzima: There is no like I mean you could say like the black and white pun intended sure issues of it all but like you are such an outward um voice politically and otherwise on your socials and I love that and I wonder like where where did that first come from for you?

[11:18] PJ Adzima: Thank you. I really love as artists I feel like we are gifted with the ability to articulate and the ability to have a presence that can handle public speaking and that can handle discussing and and using our skills for the most good.

[11:34] PJ Adzima: And I think that I honestly all of the posting that I've done is born out of frustration and powerlessness. Right? Like I'm over it. Living like truly that was it and it's like living through the asinine times when I kind of just realized I had a breaking point when I realized that idiots talk all the time unfettered with no shame.

[11:53] Jayke Workman: I don't think I started a positive that's right hello but but no it's like you know what I mean it's like what what I what I realized is the people with the worst things to say have no shame in saying it.

[12:04] PJ Adzima: Of course and people who have great thoughtful like beautiful souls are like well I could never I shouldn't yeah you know it's like I and I and this who wants to hear from me.

[12:14] Jayke Workman: But who wants to hear from me and the and it's like that lack of shame on the other side is is when I do feel like, oh god, why am I talking like PJ no one wants to hear this?

[12:23] PJ Adzima: Why are you gonna make another stupid video right now?

[12:24] Jayke Workman: Right.

[12:25] PJ Adzima: And then I'll pass like a a preacher on the street who's like, Jesus is coming, yes, and you will burn in hell. And I'm like, well, we've gotta tip the scales.

[12:33] Jayke Workman: Like we've gotta we've gotta level the playing field.

[12:35] PJ Adzima: At least a little bit, because the if you think the loudest person is the majority, this is a dark place to live.

[12:41] Jayke Workman: Right.

[12:42] PJ Adzima: And that is what we've lived in for the past decade. Is a is a minority of people who won't shut the fuck up.

[12:48] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[12:48] PJ Adzima: And so to give hope to others, to make everybody feel like we're real we we're on the same page here, right? Like I realize, okay, I should start talking more, and I've been spurred on and found a lot of confidence in that.

[13:02] PJ Adzima: And it's actually felt like it's giving me a lot more power to trust myself and to not feel like I'm drowning in in these difficult times.

[13:11] Jayke Workman: Well, and I think you are also in a position where you get to say, I'm working from the inside out. Like in in a show that is sort of you know politically charged and and looked at in like a very polarizing way, I think you using your like day in, day out presence at a show like The Book of Mormon is just so refreshing because it really is you're not shying away from saying any of the things that you want to within that like realm of like there could be problematic things in all on all fronts of what we do.

[13:47] PJ Adzima: So we have to be honest about them, but also like own the fact that like you have a job. Yes, you're working on Broadway. Yes, in a show. Yes, so like why would I not do that? Right, correct. You know, and that is I say all the time with everything I've done, the Book of Mormon is the cornerstone that I have built everything off of. It really and to speak about, you know, the years I've spent or the how hard it is to make it in this industry, I really feel like I, you know, now I have the brain space to do more things.

[14:16] Jayke Workman: Totally.

[14:17] PJ Adzima: Because I work for three hours a day, yep. Most days a week in a show that I've done over a thousand times. So I have more brain space to be creative. Yes. I have more time in my day to be creative. And I'll tell you right now, like I had big ideas for ten years in this town, but I had three survival jobs, so I couldn't get any of them done.

[14:36] Jayke Workman: Right.

[14:36] PJ Adzima: And I do wanna I do want to make that message known because I am coming from this place of this privilege, and that's why while I have it, I'm not gonna waste it. Period. Because baby, it's you New York is too hard.

[14:51] Jayke Workman: Oh, yeah.

[14:51] PJ Adzima: It's too hard. And when you get a chance to make something and you find some level of, you know, uh position to cling on to, whether you're in a long-running show or you get a good gig with a bit of cushion, make the most of that time. Use it because it will not last forever.

[15:06] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[15:06] PJ Adzima: And it's I think it's like a sort of a forgotten thing. Like when you are in the rat race and you are doing the side hustles, but also like gunning for, you know, that dream, whether it's Broadway or whatever, you forget that once you get the job, you're gonna have to do it.

[15:24] Jayke Workman: You gotta do it.

[15:25] PJ Adzima: And that's like people I think just get in the mindset of like, oh, I did it, right? I booked Broadway. Oh boy, everything starts and literally, like everything is just set and done, perfect.

[15:38] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[15:39] PJ Adzima: And it's like, oh no, no, no, darling. There's so much more that happens to you in and outside of those buildings.

[15:46] Jayke Workman: Right.

[15:46] PJ Adzima: Once you have the job.

[15:47] Jayke Workman: Right.

[15:47] PJ Adzima: And so I've loved getting to see what you do, obviously, you know, talking about stage time, but just in general, like the things that you do and you put your energy into, um kind of have nothing to do with the Book of Mormon.

[16:00] PJ Adzima: No, it doesn't.

[16:01] Jayke Workman: Which is amazing.

[16:01] PJ Adzima: Yeah. Well, it's because the Book of Mormon's my day job.

[16:04] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[16:04] PJ Adzima: And that's what I'm lucky enough to say. Right. I'm like, great, cool. I got this thing. And it's this amazing thing that is it's the gift of gifts in my life. I absolutely adore it. And I love it every single time that I'm there.

[16:15] Jayke Workman: Right.

[16:15] PJ Adzima: But then when I'm not there, I'm not there.

[16:17] Jayke Workman: You got shit to do.

[16:18] PJ Adzima: Oh, baby. Yes. And I, and for me, having shit to do, like, I am I'm an outdoor cat. Like, and that's really been this mentality that I've had this whole time. Yeah. I'm on the hunt. Yeah. Because I've been on the hunt for 10 years.

[16:35] PJ Adzima: Yeah. Like, right? I like I'm used to using a lot of energy to do the three survival jobs to get me through the day.

[16:41] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[16:42] PJ Adzima: And then I get to this great big job that once you're rehearsed and in and up and running, it takes all your energy getting in there. But then once you're set it and forget it, guess what? Like, I gotta I'm used to moving and cooking a little faster than just three hours a day.

[16:59] Jayke Workman: A hundred percent.

[17:00] PJ Adzima: And what I've found for me is I've started doing other things because those other things are the source of my creative fulfillment now. Right. Because you cannot, and this is a this is real talk for people who do get that job and are that lucky percentage that get to book this show that's gonna run for 365 days a year.

[17:19] Jayke Workman: Yep.

[17:20] PJ Adzima: You better find another way to stay creatively fulfilled.

[17:24] Jayke Workman: Absolutely.

[17:25] PJ Adzima: What you're that sparkly dream thing becomes your J O B. And that's not a bad thing. It's a beautiful thing. You have the privilege to to let that dull a bit in the in the yes.

[17:37] Jayke Workman: You know what I mean?

[17:38] PJ Adzima: Like the novelty. Yes. The pressure, right? It still remains exciting, but the work then needs to be artistically to keep yourself fulfilled. Where else are you filling your cup?

[17:49] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[17:49] PJ Adzima: Because you can't expect this one show to fill your cup for years.

[17:55] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[17:56] PJ Adzima: And that is again sometimes if you're lucky. If you're very lucky. Sometimes decades.

[18:00] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[18:00] PJ Adzima: Ooh boy.

[18:01] Jayke Workman: Ooh.

[18:02] PJ Adzima: That part. Boy. I can't. I mean, I truly can't imagine doing a show that long. Like I even just being in and out of Chicago. Yeah. I'm you know, it's always there. So when it when I do go back, it's a lovely surprise to see new people in the building. Like there's lots of turnover. But I'm not used to every single day for 20 years going to that building and doing the same show.

[18:24] Jayke Workman: I just I can't imagine it's amazing to me.

[18:26] PJ Adzima: It's a it's amazing. It is a few rare and and and not normal things to witness.

[18:32] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[18:32] PJ Adzima: It's not normal. Like it and those rare ships that come along, those, you know, that that last forever. Like it's a it's a different set of skills than regular acting. You know, it's like I think of all the time, like to be in a long-running show is its own set of skills. The same way that film acting is different from stage acting.

[18:53] Jayke Workman: Yes, you're gonna set yourself up to run and run and run, you better get your head straight, yeah, and and get into a healthy place about what that's gonna do to you physically, yeah, about what that's gonna do to you mentally, and how you're going to build a uh a beautiful life with that great, great blessing, with that enormous golden ball and chain.

[19:15] PJ Adzima: Correct, those golden handcuffs are heavy, but baby, you you do it right and you do it right. You're set. And it's wild. And I think the word really is gratitude. I think that that's the thing that come back to. What blows my mind. Like it is what I I tell me if this is how what you see or experience as well, where it's like, I can't wrap my head around people who who have lost that spark of gratitude within the community.

[19:41] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[19:42] PJ Adzima: And it's such a hard flame to keep alive, but like at your heart of hearts, you've got to. You have to remain even if it's just a silent prayer to yourself. And you're pissed and there's something wrong, or like what like the day's going bad, or you are, you know, full of night dayquill and you're going into your two-show day, your five-show weekend. Like you s you can't go out there being being anything less than thrilled to do this job.

[20:10] Jayke Workman: No.

[20:10] PJ Adzima: And that I think it shows right through. But that also is the like you also have to have the um capacity to I mean give yourself grace, but also give that paying audience grace and be like, you know what? If it's not today, I'm not doing it. If it's not if I'm not giving 110, call out.

[20:36] Jayke Workman: Ooh, I like that.

[20:37] PJ Adzima: What is that? I don't understand this weird, like, I've never called out. It's like girl. No, that's that's toxic. You've had that's toxic positive. Men need, like, that's bad. Regardless of who you are.

[20:48] Jayke Workman: Yeah, yeah.

[20:49] PJ Adzima: You have to have had days where you were not on the way that you could be in the show.

[20:54] Jayke Workman: For sure.

[20:55] PJ Adzima: Like, so I don't I don't understand. What is like a what is like a life moment? Like grandma's gonna die.

[20:59] Jayke Workman: Yes, and like sometimes you don't get points in heaven because you missed her funeral for a Tuesday night show of whatever your show is.

[21:08] PJ Adzima: Of Pippin? I don't think so.

[21:11] Jayke Workman: No.

[21:11] PJ Adzima: Like, and that I think I think yeah, that's that's wild. I think that's an old time. I think we're in an interesting transition where the old world, like that's old world Broadway, that's never miss a show. That's that's right. And we're now course. And listen, I love eating nails. And you bet you better be out there doing it. But if you're we we deserve to have mental health, we deserve to have physical health. We deserve to have a uh a work environment that's not toxic. We I and I think dare I dream to have it all.

[21:42] Jayke Workman: Like, I think we can keep the good stuff.

[21:44] PJ Adzima: Whatever do you mean? I I want the bullshit.

[21:48] Jayke Workman: I know I want you're like, I'm here because this because Broadway's hard. Because it sucks.

[21:51] PJ Adzima: Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you. I mean, listen, it is. And I think, like, again, that's that double thing. You're like, you know, for me, but it's not to belittle it either. We are a small, select, very lucky and hard working.

[22:07] Jayke Workman: Not fucking luck.

[22:08] PJ Adzima: It's it's baby, you earned it. Oh, yeah. Like, to be able to do this. And should you hold yourself to the same caliber as Olympian? Yes.

[22:16] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[22:16] PJ Adzima: Should you also someone bottles it and be like, but I also take care of myself. Also, yes, right? Like we we can do both while still achieving at the highest level.

[22:28] Jayke Workman: A hundred percent.

[22:30] PJ Adzima: Even the goat.

[22:31] Jayke Workman: Even the goat.

[22:32] PJ Adzima: I was like, of course, even if she has to sleep. Or she can call it and be like, not today, mama. I'm out. No, I'm out. Like, no, I'm not. I'm not doing it. Put the alternate in. It's time. And guess what? She's back again and still the four years later, still the fucking champion.

[22:46] Jayke Workman: Exactly.

[22:46] PJ Adzima: Again, it's but I think that's the ego of it all as well. It's it's all very personal. It's all very strange. But all that is to say, too, that I that making this podcast was my thing. Outside of the world of theater where I was like, I have full control. I can do whatever I want.

[23:02] Jayke Workman: That's what I'm saying.

[23:04] PJ Adzima: And for you, that is stage time.

[23:07] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[23:08] PJ Adzima: So tell me about the the even like inception or like first steps you took in creating this now very successful monthly extravaganza.

[23:19] PJ Adzima: Yes! Um, so I um I started Stage Time. Uh Stage Time with PJ Adzima is the downtown variety show that runs once a month at the Slipper Room, and uh in it I bring together the best of Broadway, drag, stand-up, burlesque, circus, and variety entertainments.

[23:38] Jayke Workman: And more.

[23:39] PJ Adzima: And more, maybe, for uh like a can't miss blowout sold-out show. We've run for the past um year. We had 10 months of sold-out shows, and now we're coming back uh on Monday this week for our season two. Um this whole thing, this whole thing totally snowballed out of control, and now is my baby that is my my like future career path that I am obsessed with.

[24:04] PJ Adzima: Yeah, because of an idea. Like I really just was had this uh observation that to what your original point is, all the greatest performers in New York City all live here, but none of them are overlapping. You and I, I'm in the Book of Mormon, you're in Chicago, we worked across the street, we're friends, I never saw you once.

[24:27] Jayke Workman: Not once.

[24:28] PJ Adzima: We are on the same street on the same exact schedule every single day. Every single day. And we aren't bumping into each other. Yeah, we're not getting together, we're not gathering, and that fundamental shift. Talk about old school, that used to be all we did.

[24:44] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[24:45] PJ Adzima: Pre-cell phones, pre all of this. If you wanted to learn about the next audition, you went to the call board. If you wanted to like get the gossip, you'd hang around these rehearsal studios. Like if you wanted to be a part of the Broadway community, you were a part of a social community. Physically, physically, body in the space community for a body in the space art form. And we have been decimated by the loss of spaces to gather.

[25:10] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[25:16] PJ Adzima: We we've taken the most valuable part, I think, of any artistic generation, which is the ability to gather and to have that kismet happen. And with it, I feel like we can see we can we're seeing and feeling post-COVID with our phone. We're like swiping and swiping and nothing is working.

[25:32] Jayke Workman: Totally.

[25:33] PJ Adzima: What's the solution? And so I have this idea that not just within the Broadway community, what if drag queens, stand-up comics, the drag queens have all hang out with drag queens. The stand-up comics all hang out with stuff stand-up comics, the Broadway kids hang out with Broadway kids. They've all slept with each other, they all hate each other, they're all sick of each other, and they heard each other's jokes. Which means they're fucking tired of hanging out. But if you get everybody together in one room, if you get stand-up comics with musical theater people with circus acts with jugglers, get it guess what happens? Magic.

[26:05] Jayke Workman: Magic.

[26:06] PJ Adzima: It's magic. And it's at the root of what the what is really started all of Broadway, which is vaudeville. So it is a hundred year old model of putting on shows that is as ripe now as it was. It's riper now. Of course. As it was a hundred years ago. Because people want to see and feel all of these nights out, but right now they're so separated. Right? You go out to a comedy show, you're gonna see ten comics, and maybe one or two of them are incredible.

[26:34] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[26:35] PJ Adzima: But you're sitting through a night of ten comics. Correct. If I go to 54 below, I'm gonna hear how many songs belted to the rafter. And I and and at number three, I don't care how good the singing is. No, I'm gonna glaze over. I'm gonna want to look at my phone. Yeah. But I found that if you take a 10 from each of these categories and stack them one after the other, yes, you cannot look away from the stage.

[27:02] Jayke Workman: It's it's brilliant.

[27:03] PJ Adzima: I have had the pleasure of participating in multiple shows, and I mean, where do I even begin? The the just the sheer like diversity of what is being put on stage is thrilling. Things that I never ever would have seen or thought that I would have enjoyed, I have been blown away by things that I wouldn't have access to only because I don't know about them in the first place. That's like, of course this makes sense. Why why shouldn't I be like presented with the best of the best from every facet of art?

[27:39] Jayke Workman: It's so so brilliant. And I I mean, my hat is off to you, of course, just as the creator, but also the host of the show because you participate so actively in every single performance, which is so amazing. But I again I think this goes back to your your sort of ability to just sit in the boldness of it because there are things that you guys put on stage at Stage Time that one might shy away from.

[28:06] PJ Adzima: Oh, yes. Oh, oh absolutely, and you do not do that at all. Which is so thrilling, and that's part of why it's so exciting to A, get to participate, but B, just to see the number of people and the levels of art that you have like, you know, pushed together on this stage. Because there are so many people now that I know because of Stage Time.

[28:27] Jayke Workman: I love that.

[28:28] PJ Adzima: And so many things that I never would have seen, and now I'm obsessed with them. So it's like thank you. It's so brilliant. I I just I applaud, you know, you and the work because it's not fucking easy.

[28:39] Jayke Workman: No, it's very hard.

[28:40] PJ Adzima: Yeah. Well, Jake, first of all, thank you for saying that because that is really that's all I could ever want. And you're my target audience in this way. Like you are exactly, baby. Bring them over. But no, it's like you are you are a talented, successful artist in New York City with taste and has very little time for a great night out.

[29:01] Jayke Workman: Sure.

[29:01] PJ Adzima: I don't want to waste your time. The worst thing you can do for any type of show right now is to be boring.

[29:07] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[29:07] PJ Adzima: Like if you're gonna hand over your precious, God help me, $50 to go see a show downtown, it better be great, right? Because you don't have the time. It's your one night off.

[29:18] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[29:18] PJ Adzima: This is like you can't bet on anything that isn't a sure thing. And for me, just hearing you say that means so much, but I also want to zoom in on what you said about meeting people as well. Getting back to community.

[29:31] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[29:31] PJ Adzima: It's you with the what we have in New York City that makes this the best the greatest city in the world is the diversity of people.

[29:37] Jayke Workman: Totally.

[29:38] PJ Adzima: Of all different backgrounds. And what I love hearing now in year two is we've had hookups from Stage Time. We've got our Stage Time couples.

[29:45] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[29:45] PJ Adzima: We've got Stage Time friendships and friendships that have been ruined because of hookups that have happened at Stage Time.

[29:51] Jayke Workman: On stage.

[29:52] PJ Adzima: On stage, baby! Um and that's what it's about. Like, right? It's like the apps are dead, everyone's disillusioned.

[29:58] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[29:58] PJ Adzima: And has realized that, like, oh, online life isn't real, but what do I do about it?

[30:03] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[30:04] PJ Adzima: And that becomes the thing is that like I have all the people all the time I have people who move to the city and they're like, hey, like, where should I go? Or like, how do I meet people? And how do I what? And it's like the answer is I have no fucking clue.

[30:15] Jayke Workman: Exactly.

[30:15] PJ Adzima: Nowhere. I don't know. And that's, and so the goal being if it's a Stage Time event, that's what it's gonna be for. It's gonna be to mix and mingle with people who you admire, or maybe people who you're going to admire, all in one community.

[30:30] Jayke Workman: Totally.

[30:31] PJ Adzima: I also think there's a really it's it's a um sort of like gateway or like taking a taking baby steps into the world of like nightlife and downtown art because you don't ever stumble upon downtown art.

[30:51] Jayke Workman: No.

[30:51] PJ Adzima: And like that culture and the sort of like queer sensibility of of what it means to do performance art or whatever. You have to know where you're going and you have to know what to look for. And this show is so brilliant because while it does provide all of like the levity and the fun, you know, familiarity of showbiz that we have come to know, it also provides like a little hint and like a little taste of like, oh, and also over here, if you just want to look, this girl is shimming her titties out.

[31:23] Jayke Workman: Correct.

[31:24] PJ Adzima: Yes. And they look great. Yes, they do. You should enjoy that. And I think I I love what you just said about nightlife, right? And and accessibility there, because we know these parties are happening. We know these entertainments are out there.

[31:35] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[31:35] PJ Adzima: Somewhere. Somewhere, right? And it depends and I all the time. It's like you're walking around New York, and I'm like, how come I'm not finding these places to go? Even just seeing it on like other people's socials. And I'm like, well, where the hell was that? Where was that? And where was my invite and how do I get one?

[31:48] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[31:48] PJ Adzima: And by again, by having this be a mixing, a mixing pot for like all of these, all of these different corners, it provides you to be exposed to art that you might not seek out yourself.

[32:00] Jayke Workman: Yep.

[32:01] PJ Adzima: And also realize that there's a whole world of nightlife out there. And I want to zoom on zoom in on this for a second. Because Stage Time, so Stage Time is a is a uh show that I put on, but Stage Time LLC is my production company that produces nightlife.

[32:20] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[32:21] PJ Adzima: And what do I consider that? I consider that to be shows like The Variety Show, but also parties and experiences that are a part of one canvas. Because, and here's the big one, Broadway is nightlife.

[32:36] Jayke Workman: Correct.

[32:38] PJ Adzima: We've thought of it as this over here thing, this siloed fancy art form. But it is a part of a larger canvas of people who are making money with their bodies in New York City.

[32:55] Jayke Workman: Absolutely.

[32:56] PJ Adzima: From five whether it's from 5 p.m. to 5 a.m. It is one team, baby. And there's so many exciting worlds that exist in that spectrum and not just shiny musical theater.

[33:11] Jayke Workman: A hundred percent.

[33:12] PJ Adzima: And it's it's silly that um it's taken this long for someone to capitalize on it. I mean, I mean, you know, of course, I'm like, kudos to you for finally fucking figuring it out, PJ. But the it is so wild that like we work in an industry during the day well I guess not during the day and the nighttime and then we can leave our show and go to something completely different that is still what we do.

[33:40] Jayke Workman: Yes, oh 100%.

[33:41] PJ Adzima: Like I'm done at nine works, yes, south. I'm done at 9:30 at the Book of Mormon and I am outside at 10 o'clock, and that's how I find these acts. I hand pull I hand pick this programming based on people I've seen, based on communities I've met. Because again, while I was working those nine to fives for ten years, I was outside meeting other artists and joining these other communities.

[34:05] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[34:05] PJ Adzima: And so when I did get into the Book of Mormon, I want to put this show together, I had friends who were world champion pole dancers. And I had friends who were drag queens, and I had friends who were comedians and were on the to the tonight show and were out and about and we were all doing things in that I've met in my journeys in New York City because that's why you live in New York City.

[34:27] Jayke Workman: Yeah, you're supposed to live in New York City, and most people just pay rent here.

[34:31] PJ Adzima: Yeah. That's T. And that's the the idea is this show and this community is is meant to be, it's why you're pursuing this hard hard art form here. If you want to be a little safer and be an artist, you can go to other cities and do that. But what you won't have is the spread of community and variety of entertainment that is at your fingertips.

[34:57] Jayke Workman: And it's a joy to explore those communities and also to discover the overlap.

[35:03] PJ Adzima: Yeah. I mean, the the I work with a lot of go-go dancers, I work with a lot of burlesque performers, and the number of them that studied theater or musical theater and then got here and went, hold on, I am having way more fun.

[35:17] Jayke Workman: Yeah in this lane.

[35:18] PJ Adzima: And I'm making money money.

[35:22] Jayke Workman: Right.

[35:22] PJ Adzima: And now I'm fulfilled every night. I perform all of the time. It's paying my bills and I'm happier than I've ever been. And you can juxtapose it with someone who's like, I've been in New York for four years now, and I haven't had an audition in three.

[35:35] Jayke Workman: Yep.

[35:36] PJ Adzima: And I I can't afford my headshots, and I feel like I'm dying. And it's like, we need just need to know that and I'm not saying you need to go like dance on tables, but there you can or you do, or you do, but there are like other communities that are fulfilling avenues.

[35:49] Jayke Workman: And avenues like one of my favorite things that have popped up recently is clown cult. Have you seen anything about clown cult?

[35:53] PJ Adzima: No.

[35:55] Jayke Workman: Obsessed with clown cult. So I'm gonna have them on a show eventually, I swear.

[35:58] PJ Adzima: Are they in New York?

[35:59] Jayke Workman: They're in New York.

[36:00] PJ Adzima: Okay, work.

[36:00] Jayke Workman: And they are they throw these events and they are for clowns only. And what they mean by that is if you're not in a full clown face, you're not getting in.

[36:09] PJ Adzima: Love.

[36:09] Jayke Workman: And they do we but it but it's an open invitation beyond that. It's like if you show up as a clown.

[36:15] PJ Adzima: Show up as a clown, come it's a it's a come one, come all community thing.

[36:19] Jayke Workman: But in donning that, in like not taking yourself so seriously, in looking at yourself as you don't have to be like mom and dad, I'm a clown. It's like, no, for the night, I'm gonna dress up and be silly and enjoy myself out. And and and who knows, maybe I'll find something or meet people who I wouldn't otherwise.

[36:37] PJ Adzima: Yeah.

[36:38] Jayke Workman: And that the the fertility of an event like that is so much more exciting to me than like pub trivia.

[36:45] PJ Adzima: Oh.

[36:46] Jayke Workman: You know, like.

[36:48] PJ Adzima: So what was your uh switching gears a little bit because I must know. What was your sort of like road to art and culture in the first place?

[36:58] Jayke Workman: Like you just have such a broad scope of understanding artists and where they're coming from, regardless of if you have ever even participated in their art form. Was that something that was like sort of impressed on you like through your childhood or like I'm like, where'd you grow up?

[37:19] PJ Adzima: That's that's an excellent that's an excellent question. Um I've I have always been fascinated in people. Because for me, what I do as an artist and a creator is about connection. So the job is to facilitate connection. You and I are gonna are gonna do something like right here, right now, talking on this couch together.

[37:38] Jayke Workman: Together, together.

[37:39] PJ Adzima: Yeah. And it's why I it's why when you asked, like, do you want to like do this in in person? I was like, yes. Because that's the point. Yeah, right. Like, that's my medium. My medium is to be in the same room as people. And we are so I've I've always loved that. I've always found that so fascinating.

[37:52] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[37:54] PJ Adzima: And I think that that connection is what we are starved for nowadays. Um as for where I grew up, I grew up on a farm in western Massachusetts. I'm literally I'm literally the farm kid who moved to the big city because he was too fucking weird for that place. Like and the social I I've been this just like tireless social extrovert of all extroverts my entire life.

[38:21] Jayke Workman: And while I never was good at any of the sports and the things that I was, you know, exposed to early on growing up, I I I found that through art, you know, and and even through sports, I really found such a human connection.

[38:38] PJ Adzima: Yeah, whether it's through teammates or through classmates or through projects, and then eventually through theater. I I found theater when I was eight years old and went and and it was a full light bulb. I'm I'm gonna do this. I've been zeroed in on it ever since. Um and and for me that vehicle of empathy and connection is is always something that fills my cup.

[39:01] Jayke Workman: And that's why I can keep doing it.

[39:03] PJ Adzima: That's why even when I'm tired, I know that it really is about, I remind myself of the people who are in that audience who this is their Christmas present.

[39:14] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[39:15] PJ Adzima: Who like that it helps me to zoom out and and drop that ego and go, okay, hold on, you are in an active service for these other people.

[39:28] Jayke Workman: Totally.

[39:28] PJ Adzima: And they really need you right now. And that empathy, that empathy, um, came from a really religious background. I went to Catholic school until I was 18, and then I said, fuck all that.

[39:40] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[39:40] PJ Adzima: I'm a sinner, baby. Um and then I went and now I run a nightlife company. Thank God I did, but it for me, for me, I'm very I'm very spiritual, and I'm very invested in the need for that new spirituality. And I feel like we're finding it now through popular culture.

[39:59] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[39:59] PJ Adzima: Right? Like, for example, like I just saw Cats, the Jellico Ball yesterday. Best thing you've ever seen.

[40:04] Jayke Workman: Right.

[40:05] PJ Adzima: It's church.

[40:06] Jayke Workman: It's church.

[40:07] PJ Adzima: It's church. And it works on such a profound level because of that church experience.

[40:17] Jayke Workman: True.

[40:17] PJ Adzima: It is a it is a cathartic group experience with call and response and respect of rules and boundary and pageantry that for me is directly linked to the Greeks, baby. Like we are going all the way back. Like this art form was used as a spiritual practice.

[40:41] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[40:42] PJ Adzima: That's where it begins. And that lack of, like when when we as a secular society are moving away from organized religions and are moving away from the bullshit of it all.

[40:53] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[40:53] PJ Adzima: Well, we still we still want the familiarity of that ritual. We still want everybody, everybody who I talk to who grew up religious says, I'm so happy I'm out, but I miss the community. I miss the church. I miss that structure. I miss that support.

[41:07] Jayke Workman: Well, that's yeah.

[41:07] PJ Adzima: Structure is the the thing. And it's a shame that I had to throw out b uh that I don't believe in this thing, and that means I have to feel so alone. And I think I know that the path forward is for me and and and for my you know, my connection to that those beliefs is by creating spaces and rooms and places for people to feel like, oh, I'm home again.

[41:36] PJ Adzima: Totally.

[41:37] Jayke Workman: Oh, I'm gonna be okay.

[41:39] PJ Adzima: Yeah.

[41:39] Jayke Workman: And I think like the even even talking with people who have seen Cats, right? It's like you're in a club.

[41:45] PJ Adzima: Yes.

[41:46] Jayke Workman: It's like you're like, oh, you saw Cats? Oh my god, wasn't it this? The shorthand you have immediately now to relate to somebody to you've bonded, you've bonded with all of the hundreds of people who have seen this production now immediately. And again, just that social lubricant, what can flow from there now because of that shared experience is incredible.

[42:09] PJ Adzima: Yes.

[42:10] Jayke Workman: And provides a societal good and beyond just frivolous entertainment.

[42:15] PJ Adzima: So fund the arts.

[42:17] Jayke Workman: So fund the arts, bitch.

[42:18] PJ Adzima: But yes, fund the arts, bitch.

[42:20] Jayke Workman: That's it. So and in thinking of that, I would love to know too how sort of like the Venn diagram comes together when you think of having a partner who is also a performer.

[42:20] PJ Adzima: Oh yeah.

[42:20] Jayke Workman: And an artist. Because that's been something that I have loved getting to just like observe from afar is that like Queen Julia Um is always at the Stage Time performances that I've been at and sometimes participates and sometimes doesn't, but like you guys have your sort of your own things that you do, but then obviously you are cheering each other on in that world and I'd love to know just like about where that where that meets for you of like how do you separate the art from the person and vice versa.

[43:10] PJ Adzima: Like fascinating. Um I could talk about my marriage forever.

[43:16] Jayke Workman: So a big romantic.

[43:18] PJ Adzima: And my marriage is the thing I'm most proud of.

[43:24] Jayke Workman: I um it shows.

[43:25] PJ Adzima: Thank you. I mean, even just the most recent gorgeous photos of you together, I was like, I will look at PJ and Julia and their undies any damn way.

[43:33] PJ Adzima: Thank you very much. We're happy about it. Um I yeah, no, I'm a big love is like love is real and you can have it all, like kind of thing, especially in this art form. Um, but it really I I'm I'm so very fortunate to have found a partner who is both my life partner and my business partner. And I that's the thing is if you're gonna go the distance with someone in the arts, you better be all in.

[44:02] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[44:03] PJ Adzima: I say this like a lot when it's like when you're gonna be with an artist, it's like either you have to be with someone who's in the arts, or you absolutely cannot be with someone in the arts.

[44:03] Jayke Workman: Yes.

[44:03] PJ Adzima: And you have to be with someone who you think is gonna make it.

[44:22] Jayke Workman: That's T.

[44:23] PJ Adzima: Sorry, that's the secret. You have to believe in them.

[44:26] Jayke Workman: Well, you have to believe in them more than they do.

[44:29] PJ Adzima: Yes. Because guess what? You're the one propping them up, and it won't hold if you're like, no, you're great at acting. If you don't believe it. You're so good. If you're waiting for them to switch to like drop out and like get into marketing.

[44:45] Jayke Workman: You cannot have a good relationship with them.

[44:47] PJ Adzima: You won't. You shouldn't do it.

[44:49] Jayke Workman: No, that is absolutely. You need to be like, we're you're going all the way because you're gonna be their manager, you're gonna be their confidence, they're gonna be their publicist. And that is the relationship that I've built with my wife, who is a Broadway star.

[45:02] PJ Adzima: Who literally is also.

[45:05] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[45:05] PJ Adzima: Side note. She's fucking ridiculous.

[45:07] Jayke Workman: I know, she's incredible.

[45:08] PJ Adzima: She's like, it's kind of insane.

[45:09] Jayke Workman: No, she's a star.

[45:10] PJ Adzima: I've only met like I only have known her now like maybe a year because of Stage Time and like we met doing some other random show that we both some other cabaret, but I was like the moment I heard her sing, I was like, oh my god, okay. Yep. Okay. Yeah.

[45:23] PJ Adzima: And I heard that voice for the first time in college. And when I was when I met I met her when I was 19, we were both 19 years old.

[45:32] Jayke Workman: What in the hell?

[45:33] PJ Adzima: She walked into my girlfriend's apartment, and it was the day I started dating my then girlfriend. And Julia walked in and I went, oh no. I'm I'm I'm in love with this woman. And I've been in love with her from day one.

[45:53] Jayke Workman: What a fucking fan.

[45:54] PJ Adzima: From embarrassment of riches, you bitch.

[45:56] Jayke Workman: Well, oh yeah, well, listen, hey, it took me five years to get her to date me, which is cool.

[45:59] PJ Adzima: Forever.

[46:00] Jayke Workman: Oh, baby, baby. I will get her.

[46:02] PJ Adzima: I know. No, she's not here to tell the whole story. But basically, we were for we were very good friends for a long time, and it wasn't a secret that I was in love with her. But I also never came out and said it because I cause you don't do that. People listening. It has to be their idea. And eventually it was. Eventually she was like, um, um, we should we should make Alan. And I was like, I was like, yes, we should. But I never went for it. I never in all that time it was like, you know, I'm here. You know that I know that you know it's not a very subtle thing that I'm like this, but we are, you know, we're good friends. And then we walked the long road from friends who were fucking to people who are actually gonna date, and the reason why we got married so young, the short version of it is I'm 24 years old. I've been in love with this girl since I was 19. She just started going out with me. It's the best fucking time of my life. And she is devastatingly talented.

[47:05] PJ Adzima: And what do I mean by that? She is in the first year, she's like the first understudy for Carol King on Broadway. She plays Betty in the original Broadway company. Um, and then she gets the call to take over as Carol on the first national tour in the second year of the tour. And we've been dating finally for like six months. And I told her, I was like, I want to go long, I want to do long distance with you. And I said, if we're still happy after a year of long distance, then I'm gonna ask you to marry me. Because I don't want to work this hard for a maybe. And about a year to the day I did.

[47:52] Jayke Workman: Romance.

[47:52] PJ Adzima: It is. Because and again, because you have to this is a career of a lifetime. You can't wig out because you got a six-month contract. It's not gonna work. You need someone who is like, oh, okay, ideally, I'm talented and I'm booked and blessed, and I'm traveling the country or the world for the rest of our lives.

[48:16] Jayke Workman: Lives.

[48:17] PJ Adzima: Uh there is no like and you gotta be right.

[48:20] Jayke Workman: Well, yeah, and it's like, because I'll be in marketing, and you're like, and then we're back to whatever. And again, that's totally fine if you want to not follow this dream, this crazy, crazy time and work in marketing. I fucking love you, and you're smarter than I am. I actually beg of you because I need to. I'm cursed with this life. I can't do anything else. I can only do this. But um, but that's it. And that really, that's been the foundation of our life together. We have been married now for six years.

[48:49] Jayke Workman: Wow.

[48:49] PJ Adzima: We have been long distance for three of those six years.

[48:55] Jayke Workman: Because you are working actors.

[48:58] PJ Adzima: Right. We've been apart. I've been, I did Book of the Book of Mormon on the first on the national tour. They sent me to Australia, where I lived in Sydney for a year. That I got the call, they said, they said, they said, Can you we hi, it's Book of Mormon. We need you in Australia for a year in ten days. And I said, I'm getting married in six weeks. And they said, we'll fly you home.

[49:25] Jayke Workman: Oh my God.

[49:25] PJ Adzima: And I went, okay. And my thank God, my partner who's in this industry, because if I had some lawyer girl fiancé, that'd be it's it'd be game over. No fucking way. But instead, I hung up the phone, she was with me, and she was like, you've gotta go.

[49:39] Jayke Workman: Wow.

[49:39] PJ Adzima: And I flew to Australia, opened the company, flew back, got married, flew back to Australia, and I didn't see her for the first six months of our first year of being together. Because she had a show off Broadway. And then she was playing Louise in Gypsy at the Muni with Beth Level. Like it was like she was like, I am on fire. And I was like, I'm across the world. I'm down. I'm down and come get me back. So like that, and if that, that needs to make you say, fuck yeah. Absolutely. Because if that's like, well, if I can't just blah blah blah, then like it's not just you better be, and this is what I mean by like this crazy industry, and like go work, go, please go be a market in marketing.

[50:27] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[50:27] PJ Adzima: Because you need to be that crazy. Like you need to, you need to have that spark of madness to really be worth it. To live a life in this. And again, I'm not talking about like I'm talking about to go the distance. I have a career. Yes. With a capital K. You like it's gonna be crazy. It's never gonna stop being crazy. And, you know, for example, like I've got I've got a I share a dressing room with two wonderful men who are in the Book of Mormon. They're like Broadway icons. You know, one of them's like the original, like like the first black Fiero in Wicked.

[51:06] Jayke Workman: Derek?

[51:06] PJ Adzima: Like Derek, yeah, absolutely. It's incredible. Um, and then Jock Um Smith, who was in like Rent with the original company was the first Benny in Hell. And like he lives here in New York City and his high school kid and wife live in LA.

[51:22] Jayke Workman: Wow, because that's the life.

[51:24] PJ Adzima: Yeah, and he got this great gig. That is what And that's someone who I look up to. Yeah. That's someone who's who has a who has got a capital K career. And like that's the that's what you're signing up to do when you when you are that's best case scenario. Like that's like, whoa, I'm killing it. Actually, though. Right. And it means those sacrifices, but it also means a beautiful life and a life that's lived on your terms and a life that really is is beautiful and surprising.

[51:53] Jayke Workman: Yeah.

[51:53] PJ Adzima: So wow. That's how we got where we are today.

[51:56] Jayke Workman: Well, PJ, yeah. Can you tell us where where can we find all of the info for the most like upcoming show verse uh slash all of the things?

[52:07] PJ Adzima: Well, the best thing you can do is follow me on Instagram at PJADZ. Um, but you can also follow Stage Time, which is at Stage Time NYC. We have again monthly shows. We also throw parties, we've got like we're trying to we might do a single mixer soon. You know, right? Tom Sand. We've got so many people with queers.

[52:27] Jayke Workman: Yes, with queers, of course with queers.

[52:28] PJ Adzima: Well, thank God because all of the fucking New York meetups and like speed dating and all this stupid shit is straight people because they can't figure out how to do it with that's ridiculous.

[52:38] Jayke Workman: Okay, yeah, no, no.

[52:39] PJ Adzima: Precisely it's again, we are one community. That nightlife community is unlimited, and you know, you can be a part of it, and you should be meeting people who aren't in your friend group, or who aren't just the people who you went to college with. Like, Jesus. It's a big world out there, y'all. It's New York City, go meet somebody.

[52:55] Jayke Workman: Right.

[52:58] PJ Adzima: And like you're good at it, I hope, because you want to be an actor. Um, and boy, like I love, I love when I'm at a I love sorry, I could talk forever. No, but we're I love when I'm at like a party or a friend's house and I meet someone and we finally like, and they're like in finance or something, like and we like finally exchange information. We have zero mutual friends.

[53:19] Jayke Workman: Right.

[53:19] PJ Adzima: We have like if it's like under five, find me again.

[53:23] Jayke Workman: Well, no, not that. No, I'm that I'm like, I'm like, oh, this is awesome.

[53:28] PJ Adzima: Yeah, like this show a single mutual person.

[53:31] Jayke Workman: Right.

[53:31] PJ Adzima: That's so wild. It's wilderness out there, right? It's a manifest destiny. Like, it's the last the front all the frontiers on the globe have been conquered, but not in your social life.

[53:43] Jayke Workman: No, it's a big city.

[53:46] PJ Adzima: And if you I've got friends who are fashion designers from Argentina, and I've got friends who like I'm going to Rome on vacation in two weeks, and I a friend of that friend was like, stay in my apartment for you, like because you are this, and I'm staying for free in Rome because I was nice to somebody at a party. Like, that's how you live the best life in New York City. Period!

[54:08] Jayke Workman: That's it.

[54:09] PJ Adzima: Wow, that's insane. So anyway, come support us, make a friend, change your life. Come to Stage Time.

[54:14] Jayke Workman: Come to Stage Time.

[54:15] PJ Adzima: I can't wait to do it again.

[54:16] Jayke Workman: I can't wait to have you there again. I want you front and center. You've been I love it. I want you, I want you to singing big, big big and loud, baby.

[54:25] PJ Adzima: With my megaphone.

[54:26] Jayke Workman: 100%. Okay, brainstorm on it, and we'll get you up there real soon.

[54:29] PJ Adzima: I will well thank you so so much for coming on the pod. You are just a delight and I cannot wait to come and see Stage Time another time when I'm not actually performing in it because it's so insane.

[54:42] PJ Adzima: It is insane is great. And next time you're at Chicago we're gonna drink.

[54:43] Jayke Workman: Yes, period I'm knocking on the stage door.

[54:49] PJ Adzima: Please do you guys that's it for another episode of Oh My Pod you guys don't forget to rate review and subscribe anywhere you listen to the pod and you can of course follow the show on Instagram at oh my pod you guys. Thank you so so much for listening talk soon bye oh my god oh my pod you guys.