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[0:07] Tommy Bracco: Hi guys, it's Tommy.

[0:10] Jamie: I'm Jamie.

[0:12] Jamie: And it's not Phil.

[0:15] Tommy Bracco: And you're listening to Real Tawk. Speaking of Uncle Phil, we have to rub it in his face that he is missing a podcast episode.

[0:25] Jamie: He's so mad right now.

[0:27] Tommy Bracco: I'm gonna actually just get him all riled up right now. I'm gonna give him a call. Rub it in his face that he is not watching the podcast.

[0:36] Tommy Bracco: I mean he's not doing the podcast. It's the one time he had to miss. He breeds this thing. Lived and breeds this thing. Alright, let's give him let's give him a call and just rub it in his face first.

[0:48] Jamie: And then not let him don't give him any time to speak.

[0:52] Tommy Bracco: No. None.

[0:53] Tommy Bracco: Hello?

[0:56] Phil Bracco: Hello?

[0:58] Tommy Bracco: Uncle Phil?

[1:00] Phil Bracco: Hey, what's up?

[1:01] Tommy Bracco: What's going on, Uncle Phil?

[1:04] Phil Bracco: Oh, fancy getting you.

[1:05] Tommy Bracco: We're doing a podcast right now. Sucks you're missing it.

[1:10] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[1:11] Phil Bracco: Yeah, it sucks.

[1:12] Tommy Bracco: You're missing it. The show goes on without you.

[1:14] Phil Bracco: I know you'd be dying to be here, but the show goes on without you.

[1:19] Phil Bracco: You need me.

[1:19] Tommy Bracco: No, no, no, no. We don't need you, I guess.

[1:22] Tommy Bracco: No. We're about to do a sick episode. We're all riled up. Do you know what happened tonight, Dad?

[1:27] Tommy Bracco: I'm sitting in your chair. I'm gonna channel your energy.

[1:32] Jamie: Oh.

[1:32] Jamie: Good thing you didn't get a chance to watch. Your blood pressure would be through the roof after watching this episode.

[1:37] Tommy Bracco: It was so infuriating. I'm gonna go off. Off.

[1:40] Tommy Bracco: I got you, Uncle Phil. I'll cover you.

[1:42] Phil Bracco: Can't wait to listen.

[1:43] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, no, we would definitely we we would like your thoughts, but I'm sorry, we don't have time for that.

[1:52] Phil Bracco: Alright, Sean.

[1:53] Phil Bracco: All right.

[1:54] Tommy Bracco: Alright, we we gotta go now. See you later.

[1:59] Jamie: Flipping out with Phil is turning into flipping out with John.

[2:02] Tommy Bracco: This segment now. No, I sat in this chair, his chair that he sits in, and I got like some weird Uncle Phil energy.

[2:08] Jamie: I kind of hate it.

[2:09] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[2:12] Tommy Bracco: It's just a very powerful energy when you sit in that chair.

[2:15] Jamie: Oh, it's weird. But let's let's let's let's call it like that how it is right now. Uncle Phil was pretending like he didn't care that he wasn't here. He's dying right now that he's not here for this podcast.

[2:25] Jamie: Yeah, dude.

[2:27] Jamie: Yeah, he's very upset. He loves the podcast. That's all he talks about.

[2:30] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Literally every chance he gets. Um we got a lot to talk about.

[2:34] Jamie: Yeah, I know. I was just gonna say, we have to dive in because that was an emotional roller coaster from being so excited that Ozza won her first win to so crushed that she made the worst decision that she could have made.

[2:46] Tommy Bracco: And you can tell she made that worst decision when Kylan made his speech. Like he was just like, I also have loyalties.

[2:53] Jamie: And she was like, wait, you're also making deals, like me and we had a deal. Like it was it was very confusing and just a mess.

[2:59] Tommy Bracco: I have to take my sweatshirt off for this podcast episode. That's how riled up I'm not I get it.

[3:04] Jamie: It's it was a lot. Um the first hour was a little boring, but the the second hour really kept us on our tippy toes.

[3:11] Tommy Bracco: Um why did he say it like that?

[3:16] Jamie: Tiffy, because that's Tiffany's nickname.

[3:18] Tommy Bracco: Oh, that's why I said that over my head. I'm glad you caught that little detail.

[3:23] Jamie: I thought that was like one of his like when when like someone calls him and he goes, Yo girl. What's up, Tippy Toes? How you doing, Tippy Toes? It was like a yo girl. It's like a dancer thing. That's what I thought it was.

[3:33] Tommy Bracco: Oh, and P.S. Angelica, like just flat out won't come on the podcast anymore. She's so infuriated that she's just done.

[3:39] Jamie: So no, it she hated, she said, I'm not speaking on the podcast after Kylan won HOH. And then not only did Kylan win HOH, he then won this veto in this double eviction and saved X and ruined everything.

[3:51] Tommy Bracco: She literally went home. You guys, I have to drive John home after this.

[3:56] Jamie: Yeah, so she's clocked out, but hopefully, hopefully the season gets better. I don't know how to do it.

[4:01] Tommy Bracco: No, the season's over. There's no getting better. The season sucks. It had a chance to be good right now, and they blew it because these people stink at Big Brother.

[4:09] Jamie: Yeah.

[4:10] Jamie: They stink.

[4:10] Tommy Bracco: They stink at the game.

[4:12] Jamie: I mean, they you can't say that.

[4:14] Tommy Bracco: No, no, no. You have to say what you were telling us before about like who they cast now and modern Big Brother, because it's there's two types of people. And you gotta just say it.

[4:22] Jamie: I will give my my there's only two. If anybody wants to be on Big Brother um here that's listening, there are two only two criteria that you need to meet in order to be big on Big Brother.

[4:35] Jamie: One, you need to have like a like a per personality like Thomas, which is like, oh, I love everybody, I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, so I'm gonna be like the nice guy 24-7, right?

[4:45] Tommy Bracco: So like flash dances in the middle of the house.

[4:48] Jamie: Right. Yeah, like making everybody all friends instead of like enemies, and like, you know, that was my making sure everyone is happy. So you need to have a personality like that where you're afraid to like make people upset with you.

[4:59] Jamie: Or the other criteria is you have no friends whatsoever in your real life. Because these people come on this stupid show and they become best friends with these people because they have no friends at home and they make decisions solely to keep friends.

[5:16] Tommy Bracco: It's the dumbest thing in the world. They're so clean. Like you see them cuddle with each other all over the cast. Like it's literally their strategy. It's insane. Like modern Big Brother is nothing like what it used to be.

[5:27] Jamie: I know. No, it's a it's a casting requirement. We can only cast people that don't that don't have any friends. That way when they get in, they're like, oh my god, look, big brother, they're giving us 15 friends that I didn't have, so I can't backstab them, and I can't make the smart game move to win $750,000 because I need friends, or else I go back to zero.

[5:48] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. And I'm not one, I'm not one to talk about like Big Brother House gets in their lives, but did you see how like Kylan like always complains on Twitter like he's almost like a Karen? Have you guys been seeing that? Did you guys talk about it?

[5:59] Jamie: Kylan complains he gets wrecked on Twitter.

[6:02] Tommy Bracco: We didn't talk about that, but well, we might have mentioned it quickly. Kylan's complaints was trending on Twitter uh like three weeks back, two weeks back, because of all the complaints that he used to just tweet about.

[6:15] Jamie: Everybody was resurfacing like the funniest like things. Like there was one with McDonald's, like he's complaining about the prices at McDonald's.

[6:22] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, he sucks. Like, what else do you have to do in your day-to-day life that that's like what you're seeking on Twitter?

[6:27] Jamie: Like I know that's what he used Twitter for to try and you know, complain a bit. But yeah, in conclusion, none of the BB house guests have I'm rooting for Kyland at this point.

[6:37] Tommy Bracco: I mean, I don't like it either, Thomas.

[6:38] Jamie: Who else would you like you now?

[6:40] Tommy Bracco: I don't like you. Who else would you be rooting for if if not him?

[6:43] Jamie: Literally Ozza.

[6:44] Tommy Bracco: No, Xavier, just give the king to Xavier. Don't kissing his ass anyway. Give it to him.

[6:49] Jamie: So here's how I feel about I get that it's frustrating that Kylan saved Xavier. And in the in the living room when we were watching, me and John almost got into a little like tiff, but we were like, let's save it for the podcast.

[7:01] Tommy Bracco: What's with all these Tiffany puns? Tiffy Toes, Tiff. Tiffany! What's this guy's deal?

[7:08] Jamie: No, but I said, I actually think it's smart for him to take Xavier with him because at this point, Kyland, I said in the living room, he's using him as a shield.

[7:19] Tommy Bracco: I did not mean it's Didn't mean to word it like that. Hear me out. Hear me out. Well, we need to explain to them what you're using. Everybody is so focused on Xavier. How is everybody forgetting that Kylan's resume is actually better than Xavier's game?

[7:31] Jamie: But is anyone forgetting that Aza and Derek have not won anything?

[7:35] Tommy Bracco: Right. But Kylan and we're getting that everyone hates Kylan. The person that everyone thinks is gonna win, because then he can sit at the final two and be like, I actually built my resume while you were all focused on Xavier.

[7:47] Jamie: I took him with me, and I was the reason that he's here.

[7:50] Tommy Bracco: No. I'm literally better than him. I think out of everyone being salty that they kept X this long, they're honestly gonna vote for the other person.

[7:58] Jamie: I think I agree. I think Kylan's gonna win.

[8:06] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, that's they all hate Kylan personally because he just doesn't shut his mouth.

[8:06] Jamie: I know. I know. So he's annoying. They don't like him. They've never once, not one person mentioned, oh, I think Kylan's playing the best game. They all say Xavier.

[8:19] Tommy Bracco: So Thomas is not annoying.

[8:28] Jamie: Right. Because they hate him. They just they just don't like him.

[8:33] Jamie: And Thomas had the nerve, the nerve to tell me, because I I think that if Kylan really was smart and he really was going for the 750, I think it stacks his it completes his resume.

[8:46] Jamie: I got X out. I didn't use the veto on him. And Thomas said, no, he's keeping Xavier. I said, for what? He said, as a shield. A shield from who?

[8:56] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, Aza and Who? Big D and Ozzle? No. Honestly, all right. This is a weird question that I want to propose. If you think Aza or Big D were able to get out X, Xavier, do you think that they would have a chance to win the game?

[9:10] Jamie: Against Kylan.

[9:12] Tommy Bracco: Yes, because everyone hates Kyland.

[9:13] Jamie: Yeah, I do think so. Because everyone severely dislike him. They want to not they everyone's gonna root for the underdog, and Xavier's not the underdog, neither is Kyle.

[9:23] Tommy Bracco: But if it is Kylan versus Xavier, of course, they're gonna keep it, they're gonna make Xavier win.

[9:27] Jamie: I don't know. I feel like Kylan could win. I really do.

[9:31] Tommy Bracco: Oh, but his speech was probably wrong.

[9:33] Jamie: I was just about to say that. Could you imagine his speech?

[9:35] Tommy Bracco: No, but let's not let's not take the all the spotlight and put it on Kyland. Aza stinks at Big Brother.

[9:42] Jamie: You stink. You know the guys are working together. You know they dominate you in competitions, even though she won that HOH against Xavier.

[9:50] Tommy Bracco: Well done. You got your spot. You won. Take advantage of it.

[9:53] Jamie: No, I made a deal with Kyland. The one opportunity she gets and she blows it out of the wall. It's horrible.

[9:59] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, it was very funny. Also, like I was screaming through the TV because if I was like, if I was Hannah, I'd be like, you're making a big mistake. Like I'd be fighting to the end so strong, but there's no helpless.

[10:10] Jamie: You know what's fun to fight? They stink at the game. You know what's funny? Christy says when she looks back, I watch the I think about the double eviction, and I say, Why didn't I have that reaction?

[10:20] Jamie: But when you're in it, you can't. You're just like so paralyzed and frozen. Like the nerves that are going through your body, you're so nervous.

[10:29] Tommy Bracco: Like you don't, you don't know that you can use your voice in that moment. You feel like you don't have a voice.

[10:34] Jamie: 100%. They're like you're so taken back in the moment about how terrible and not intelligent these people are.

[10:39] Tommy Bracco: Right. Making the decisions that you're just you're just in shock. Like, is this person yes really that dumb to make that move? And they are every single time. Like clockwork.

[10:47] Jamie: Because you know why? It's part of the casting process.

[10:50] Tommy Bracco: Right. No friends. Thomas, you think you would check these boxes?

[10:54] Jamie: I think you have a lot of friends.

[10:55] Tommy Bracco: Well, I'm cuddly.

[10:56] Jamie: That was the I No, he checks the other by T. Thomas personality.

[10:59] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just gotta cuddle. Cuddle, make dances, and that was my shit.

[11:07] Jamie: Like if it was up to Thomas, nobody would get evicted.

[11:10] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, no. They would all go to the final.

[11:13] Jamie: Like, who would you want as cast? What would games would you want? Like I hate what the bleep. It gives me major anxiety.

[11:19] Tommy Bracco: I was so bad at the game and I just hate what to bleep.

[11:23] Jamie: It's funny to watch though. Um It bugs me out that they don't let Derek F was the only one laughing through that throughout that whole game.

[11:29] Tommy Bracco: And that game's hysterical.

[11:31] Jamie: No, but you can't laugh because you're so focused on thinking about winning and what the word is.

[11:37] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[11:37] Jamie: You're not focused on what's even being said. You're just like, was that right? Was that wrong?

[11:41] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[11:43] Jamie: Did you see Big D's like m like menacing smile towards Hannah, like when he got put on the block?

[11:50] Tommy Bracco: Like he was almost smiling, like knowing that he wasn't going home.

[11:53] Jamie: Right. Because he didn't. Almost like smiling in her face, like I was like, I was really like my mind was boggled. I couldn't believe that he was just like smiling in her face like that.

[12:03] Tommy Bracco: I know, I know. And then Kylan says, like, oh, he's doing a lot more than what we're seeing.

[12:08] Jamie: I really don't think he's doing a lot more than what we're seeing because he hasn't won a competition. He really hasn't been a mastermind of anything.

[12:14] Tommy Bracco: I don't think anything has been swayed because of him yet. Nothing.

[12:17] Jamie: He has no influence.

[12:18] Tommy Bracco: No. Now, since we're talking about Derek F, I saw on Twitter a lot, he was getting like torched for being delusional over the last couple episodes.

[12:27] Jamie: Because he really thinks he's in his DRs, he's better at like the game than he is. He said something to like Tiffany, like she he like was taken back that Tiffany said that like Xavier would definitely win over you in Final Two.

[12:39] Tommy Bracco: He's like, Yeah, I like I am. What makes you think that?

[12:43] Jamie: I had that on the episode too.

[12:45] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. I can't wrap my head around whether he like if I can't stand him or I love him because he's either he's either truly delusional and he really thinks this shit, or he's a world-class troll.

[12:57] Tommy Bracco: He's a troll and he's just trolling the BB viewers by pretending like I'm awesome at this game. Like, why wouldn't it, like, I'm gonna go ahead and do it? I definitely believe some part of him thinks that he was the reason that Tiffany got out because you know they were major enemies, so it's almost like he was thinking in his head, Oh, I'm the reason why she's the first cookout member gone. Like, that's probably what he's thinking right now. I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt and think that he is more of a troll than we're giving him credit for. So he doesn't think that he's amazing at Big Brother. I think that it's a little bit of both. If you look at his Twitter account, his friend Adam that's running it, he's very witty and sharp and quick and funny.

I feel like does that have to do with Derek F playing big brother? I just feel like Derek F, that's probably who he is too. If that's who he's who surround he surrounds himself with, he's probably got a similar humor to his friends. And his like his Twitter account is nailing it. Like they're very self-aware.

[13:57] John: Yeah, and that's why I think he does have a better social game than a competitive game because it no he's not winning competitions. He's Final Four. Said and done, Final Four, whether you like it or not, he's there.

[14:07] Tommy Bracco: Right. A hundred percent. His social game did take him places, whether we like it or not. I don't know if I agree with that because there's been plenty of people in Big Brother past that got far in the game who didn't have a social game or a competitive game. They just suck so people bring you along. Victoria season 16 season 16 sucked. So they brought her along because they know it's like all right she's an easy vote for whatever we want. She's so iconic.

[14:30] Jamie: Yeah and we'll beat her. That could be Derek F. You stink of the game you can vote along but he really does I think it's he does partially believe that he is better than he is but I also think he's trying to convince the house guests that he is because there's a chance he could be in the final two and he wants to set himself up to win. He doesn't want to be talking shit about himself because what if he's in the final two chairs he doesn't want to plant the seeds of like in the jury's head that he sucks. He wants to make them believe that he's better than he is.

[15:02] John: But I was more referring to like his DR sessions. It was doing like the BB comics and stuff there was like a lot of DR like DRs where he was like so like he was coming off so delusional like that he really thought like he's the guy to beat like he is the the the front runner he's the one who everyone needs to come after and they're not and like well it's just a delusional mindset or a world class troll.

[15:25] Tommy Bracco: I think everyone is the star of their own movie. You know like if you're not with he's the star of his movie. He's not the co-star in his movie it's it's a movie about him his mind. And what I really think about is like he's thinking about from his point of view. But what I really think about is like if he was in the final two chairs like he has a chance. Like, he has good votes. Like, Brittany would probably vote for him as long as he's not sitting next to Ozza.

[15:50] Jamie: Oza probably. Oza would vote for him. If she's evicted, no. Let's be real. Ozza's not making it.

[15:55] John: Right, so she'll be in the jury. That's a vote for him. Bro.

[16:00] Tommy Bracco: For Derek F. It really could be. Because some people can be salty about Xavier. Like, who knows how Tiffany feels.

[16:09] Jamie: Right. They never liked him.

[16:11] John: No, but Brittany did say tonight on the episode if if Xavier is moving too, she's just voting for him. She loves Xavier.

[16:18] Tommy Bracco: I can't picture that with Derek F up there next to him. They were such a child.

[16:21] Jamie: Oh, what does Joey want? Just for argument's sake. Joey has something to say. Who would everyone choose for a final two between Xavier?

[16:28] John: Did we talk about that? Xavier and Kylan?

[16:30] Jamie: Xavier. Personally.

[16:31] Tommy Bracco: If you were in the game?

[16:33] John: No.

[16:33] Jamie: If we were in the game. And you had to choose.

[16:35] Tommy Bracco: If we were in jury.

[16:36] Jamie: Kylan. Because of the way he's opposite board.

[16:39] John: I would vote for Xavier. What about you?

[16:40] Jamie: Oh, who would they who would you vote for? Or who would you want to be sitting next to? Who would you want to to win?

[16:45] Tommy Bracco: Oh, Xavier.

[16:46] Jamie: Yeah.

[16:47] John: Oh, you said Kylan before, I thought.

[16:49] Jamie: Well, just now I thought you meant who would I want to sit next to? Because I think I would have better chance.

[16:54] Tommy Bracco: She was trying to play like, oh, I'm gonna give devil's advocate and and Kylan does have a great chance of winning. I do think that he does have a great chance to win, honestly. I think that Kylan's resume is way better than Xavier's at this point. Xavier might be throwing comps, but that's uh not a win. That's a loss.

[17:10] John: No, but he played a perfectly balanced game. He won when he needed to. Did you see him plow through that veto?

[17:15] Jamie: Yeah.

[17:16] Tommy Bracco: A resume is not just comp wins. Obviously. Beyond that. They all resorted to him for anything. Like it when someone won HOH, they ran right to Xavier. I'm like, what do I do?

[17:25] John: Yeah, honestly, Kylan's probably gonna be really mad looking back at the his move tonight.

[17:30] Jamie: Yeah. At his decision. He's a shield. Xavier's a shield for him.

[17:34] Tommy Bracco: Oh, yeah. From Big Bad Ozza and Big Bad Derek F.

[17:38] John: Yeah. There's something to be said.

[17:40] Jamie: There's something to be said about. Listen, there's another two weeks in the game. Say Kylan sweeps in and just wins everything. Take Xavier and then be like, you were all so focused on him, you didn't even notice that I was bringing him with me, and I won everything. Like that's what I'm thinking about. I think that there's another side to it. I don't think it's as dumb as we think it is that he's bringing Xavier.

[18:03] Tommy Bracco: So I think that the cookout was headed by two monsters, Tiffany and Xavier. They were the minds of the cookout. Yes. Tiffany happened to be on one side. Xavier was on the other side. Yes. It came out towards the end that they were like really opposite of each other. But Xavier had his side of the cookout, and Tiffany had her side. So they were the masterminds. They made all decisions. I think that that is the biggest role in the biggest resume of the entire game. Like for 100% for Xavier and Tiffany, like that's the biggest part of it. The comp wins, it really didn't, it really didn't matter. They had the votes every single time.

[18:42] John: Well, now that the person who made the plan isn't in the final two.

[18:46] Jamie: But Xavier was also like the decision maker. He was the go-to guy.

[18:49] Tommy Bracco: I don't know. I mean, I guess what you're doing. Tiffany S. Xavier. You were the ones making the decisions.

[19:00] John: Um Hannah was like slow, she was like one B to them too. But she was more under Tiffany's wing. And Kylan just nobody respects his opinions.

[19:11] Jamie: Xavier wants. Yeah. Nobody like nobody cared what Kylan wanted to do. They all wanted Kylan to just stay out of everything.

[19:18] Tommy Bracco: Right. And then look tonight. He looked at Xavier and said, Oh, who are we voting out? Hannah or Big D. And Kylan uh Xavier made the decision and Kylan followed.

[19:26] John: Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah. You're right. When you're right, you're right. I hear it. I you know, I'm just trying to play devil's advocate. And I also want Kylan to win because he was my day one choice. So I would like to just be right. And the bragging.

[19:39] Jamie: Who was my day one choice? I think it actually might have been Hannah. I really thought she had it. And you know, being born in 2000, being the first player born in 2000, I was rooting for her for the show. She got Ozzy's original thing, but it's all right.

[19:51] Tommy Bracco: She got Ozad.

[19:53] Jamie: Yeah, she got Ozad, and now Oza's gonna get Azad by herself.

[19:56] John: Yep. She's g she's out next.

[19:58] Jamie: Yep. She is. That was that was world-class bad big brother move. That was the worst move, I think, of the season.

[20:06] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Maybe. And there was a lot of bad moves, but there was a lot of bad moves. A lot of bad moves. But the other people making the bad moves didn't really know that they were making bad moves because they didn't even know there was a cookout.

[20:17] John: Right. Knows there's a cookout and still made a bad move. I wish we could have seen more of the jury segment. I feel like we got a lot, but it was just fluff. It wasn't really good. Like it felt very I don't know, just like edited, I guess.

[20:35] Jamie: I see that. And they always are, but I wanted to see some more real reactions. I feel like we didn't get that with the jury segment. It was the first time they were all together and finding out that the cookout exists. And we're just like it must be because Sarah Beth wants nothing to do with them because she really wants nothing to do with Derek X or Brittany at all.

[20:55] Tommy Bracco: We were laughing about that on the uh CBS’ Big Brother Instagram. They released a video. Sarah Beth is carrying a camera around, and she is throwing so much shade towards Derek X and Brittany. She made it very clear. Oh my god, yeah. She made it very clear that multiple ti multiple times in the video, she says, I'm just enjoying my time by myself. I have my own private room, and um just uh spending a lot of time alone. Like she just like really was throwing digs that she is not spending any time at all with Derek X or Brittany. And it seems like Derek X and Brittany are having a fun time together. I saw them playing basketball and having fun. Good for them. Loved Brittany's hairdo tonight, the curls, very cute.

[21:37] John: The jury segment, I think it gets worse and worse every season. It just seems too fake, too script.

[21:42] Jamie: Yeah, too fake. Too fake. Like it there's just it's those one-liners that are like, Well, let me show you what's on the TV instead of recapping you with my own voice. Yeah, it just doesn't look like the like any interaction they have is is real whatsoever. I know that it whatever whatever the case is, but like in past seasons there were some like good action in the jury house.

[22:01] Tommy Bracco: Right. There was like fights and like when people that evicted other people finally like see each other again. I remember you you guys told me when I got back, they were like, Was your uh segment with Christy in the Jerry House fake? And I was like, No, it wasn't, but it seemed fake. I don't know if it's the way they edit it or what, but I agree with you. This seemed fake. I wish there was live feeds in the jury. You know how fun that would be to what well, not necessarily I bet it wouldn't be fun right now because Sarah Betts probably alone in her room, and then the other two are like trying to find weird, awkward conversation to have with each other because they weren't close friends on the show. But it would be funny to see like what they are doing.

[22:38] John: Yeah, like what are they doing? What do they talk about? Where are their commonalities at? I don't know. But now they have Claire and Alyssa.

[22:46] Jamie: Yeah. They do have more company now.

[22:48] John: And Tiffany and Hannah.

[22:49] Jamie: And Tiffany and Hannah. Holy delivery couple. It's getting too full in the jury house. It's almost done.

[22:53] Tommy Bracco: No, hey, listen, they got friends. That's what that's it. They made it first year, they got friends now. They suck at Big Brother. They're not winning 700.

[23:02] John: You would think that's $750,000. Like, Azza, what are you doing?

[23:05] Jamie: I know. I know. No, you you know what it was? She has absolutely nothing on her resume. So she's like, oh, if I keep my promise to Kyland, I can use that later on.

[23:15] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. That's that's that's a sick resume, Bill.

[23:18] Jamie: No, that's what it was about. No, that's it. She was trying to play it safe, but she wasn't she didn't have it in her to be ruthless. Especially when you're in top five, you gotta be thinking bigger than the promises you've made before. You have to be thinking a lot bigger than that.

[23:29] John: Right. When it gets to No, that's at that point it's top it's Final Four because she won HOH, she's a locked into Final Four. And at that point, it's every man for themselves almost. Because who wins at the end of the day when it's Final Four?

[23:44] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. So who do you have a better chance winning against? If Xavier and Kylan, one of them are gone, or if they're both still there. Because maybe what is your promise to Kyland even mean? Maybe Oza will win Vito. Psych?

[23:57] Jamie: Yeah. Or maybe Big D will win HOH.

[24:00] John: Yeah, good one. Maybe they got friends.

[24:04] Tommy Bracco: It's all good. They they walking out with 15 friends. Alright, so let's do some questions from people.

[24:11] Jamie: Yeah, let's do it.

[24:15] Tommy Bracco: This is from A. Stanley 87. What the fuck was Ozza thinking tonight nominating?

[24:21] John: Yeah, um, I couldn't agree more. But I guess when you're in the heat of the moment in the house, like, you know, I know you think very tunnel vision. I don't I hate I I just I know like past big brother players, mm mm Thomas say that like, oh, like you don't know until you're in there. Nope, nope nope I have a working brain. Yeah, I know how to use it. Yeah. And that was a dumb move.

[24:42] Jamie: Yeah, if it was up to me with that much money on the line, I would be screaming fighting until I'm blue in the face no questions about it A Stanley or A Steamer what what was the name A Stanley 87 I was thinking of like Stanley Steamer I think that's what it was but yeah A Stanley87 Preach uh so this next question's from Nell who would be a good person to return to play from this season Tiffany she would she's the only one to shake up the house everyone said like you're talking about like for them to be on like another season of Big Brother yeah I see it on Twitter all the time everyone says the same exact three people yeah Tiffany Tiffany Derek X Claire Yeah people have been saying Claire.

[24:42] Jamie: Yeah I completely agree. I would like to see Hannah back too though actually I really like she never gets thrown in that though but I could see it she would be like the fourth for me I really I really do love her I want a big brother season where they're literally having the smartest people the strongest people I want competitors like I'm sick of these people who are just like willing to throw things I want people a hundred and ten percent in the game.

[24:42] John: Yeah, I mean throwing it is a strategy, so I do get it, right? But they gotta go in, and what I would do is everybody's a number. There's no emotion, there's no friendship; everybody is a number. There's 15 people in your way, you gotta get everyone out of the way. It doesn't need everybody with high egos and a lot of friends, so the opposite of what's being cast in now: a lot of friends. And what was your other requirement? And just being cuddly? Oh no, cuddling! They actually have to hate physical contact, and then you're hired. Cuddly and dancey.

[24:42] Jamie: Um, all right, so this next question is from Q Angeline Q McRe.

[26:18] John: It basically they just replaced all the A's with Q's.

[26:21] Jamie: Love that.

[26:21] John: Um, what was the worst game move this season?

[26:26] Jamie: There's a long list.

[26:27] John: I think it was.

[26:28] Jamie: Yes.

[26:28] John: There's a long list.

[26:29] Jamie: I don't know.

[26:30] John: I think it was Derek X targeting Christian. I still I think that was a major turning point for the game.

[26:35] Jamie: So it was a bad move, but once again, they didn't know about the alliance.

[26:39] John: So like especially that early. They had no idea.

[26:41] Jamie: Yeah, they didn't know that there was a secret alliance.

[26:44] John: So yeah, from the viewer, that looks like the worst move, but for them it doesn't.

[26:49] Jamie: Like Ozza know she knew the deal. She knew what was going on right now.

[26:53] John: She knew that Kylan and X were the strongest. She knew that they were like sticking together.

[26:57] Jamie: She Hannah told her multiple times on show, like the boys are working together. Like the boys are working together.

[27:02] John: She knew all this shit.

[27:03] Jamie: Yeah.

[27:03] John: You're right.

[27:04] Jamie: What makes it a worst decision?

[27:05] John: Yeah, you're right.

[27:06] Jamie: That's fair.

[27:07] John: I agree.

[27:08] Jamie: Who has the best game move yet?

[27:13] John: It has to be a good one. The cookout in general. Xavier making a final two with Kyland.

[27:18] Jamie: Because look where it got him.

[27:19] John: Kylan made it with him.

[27:21] Jamie: Yeah.

[27:23] John: Kylan went up to Xavier. So just Xavier being Xavier is the best move in the game because Kylan's just being Xavier.

[27:29] Jamie: I'm having such an advantage over every other house guest.

[27:33] John: At the end. Hannah said, I guess I wasn't a good competitor.

[27:36] Jamie: Yeah, that shade that she threw, which is really true because she is a competitor.

[27:40] John: She was winning competitions.

[27:41] Jamie: Right.

[27:42] John: So for him not to consider for Kylan not to consider Hannah a big competitor, I would see that as an insult as well, because she was winning.

[27:51] Jamie: Um she helped out the cookout more than Big D or Aza did at the time because they were numbers for them, of course, but they didn't really win an HOH and step up for the cookout to be the final six.

[28:04] John: If this is a question, okay, so somebody asked me uh it Kenneth 996. You asked if I could be in another season of Big Brother, would I do it?

[28:14] Jamie: Yes, but I want to build on that question. If you guys had the opportunity to play Big Brother, would you do it?

[28:21] John: Yeah, 100%.

[28:22] Jamie: Big Brother 24. If you want someone who has friends already, who is going to be ruthless and just actually play to win the game.

[28:31] John: And not cuddle. That's John.

[28:32] Jamie: I'm your guy.

[28:33] John: And not cuddle. That's John. Cause chaos.

[28:36] Jamie: Yeah. And make sure the pot.

[28:38] John: 100%.

[28:39] Jamie: Would you have a fly?

[28:40] John: I would.

[28:41] Jamie: I don't know if I would.

[28:42] John: No?

[28:42] Jamie: If it was of like a few years ago, I would, but I feel like modern Big Brother has taken just like I feel like there's always just one person dominating the game, and I don't think I would be that person.

[28:54] John: Which is really sad, but I just don't think I would be that person.

[28:57] Jamie: I hear you. By the way, everyone, uh, Jamie. I always say reminds me of Claire, like just like in general, like having a.

[29:04] John: She's a big call woman because I'm obsessed with her.

[29:05] Jamie: She's so cool.

[29:06] John: She's so cool, but like just in general, I feel like you would play similar to her, but like a little more.

[29:11] Jamie: Claire was like a little dumb too.

[29:14] John: She didn't understand reads on the house. I feel like you would have had better reads on the house.

[29:17] Jamie: Uh yeah. I think I would also. And I would be gunning for competitions. I would not half ass anything.

[29:25] John: You're also a star for a football player. So you really wouldn't like I don't know if Claire's athletic, but it didn't come off that she is.

[29:31] Jamie: No, Jamie's sick. She's so sick at like competitive sports and stuff.

[29:36] John: Jamie also made the intro music.

[29:38] Jamie: Well, that's what next thing was time out. Joey, I like don't like you 99% of the time, but that 1% right there, that was good because I won't I said this before the podcast. Thomas is a piece of garbage because Jamie made that little intro and outro music.

[29:55] John: I was young.

[29:56] Jamie: He never once on this podcast gave her credit.

[30:01] John: Jamie, just go with it.

[30:03] Jamie: Just go with it.

[30:06] John: I'm a piece of garbage.

[30:07] Jamie: She's so good.

[30:08] John: She tells the truth.

[30:09] Jamie: See, he's like, she shits on me and lies and exaggerates. She can't be on Big Brother. She wants friends.

[30:14] John: Oh yeah. I have no friends. I have to compensate.

[30:18] Jamie: She wants friends. She meets the requirements.

[30:21] John: Yeah, do I meet the requirements?

[30:23] Jamie: But as we were saying, Jamie made the music.

[30:28] John: She made it what? In like 15 minutes. On some old, old website when I was really young.

[30:33] Jamie: I don't know. I was definitely on to 13. And when we were first starting the podcast, she was like, uh, I have a song that you guys can use. I was just like, oh, like, just casual. And we were just obsessed with the fact that it came from her.

[30:45] John: Like we're like, yes, it's all in the face.

[30:48] Jamie: They definitely need to update this music, though. Do you guys think it's corny?

[30:51] John: Like, you know, it will never change.

[30:53] Jamie: No, I got it. It's literally perfect.

[30:54] John: It's fire and catchy.

[30:56] Jamie: It's so it's fire.

[30:57] John: It's so perfect.

[30:58] Jamie: It's flames.

[30:58] John: Yeah.

[30:59] Jamie: It's flames.

[30:59] John: Have you ever thought about doing like a challenge, like making a bet on this um podcast?

[31:05] Jamie: Like what?

[31:05] John: Like, I don't know, like, because we were talking about like Derek Eff and how he would never win. But like, if he won, would you do just something crazy? Whether it's on the podcast or on their Instagram, would we like to do that?

[31:15] Jamie: Yeah, 100%. Like us throwing a bucket of water on you or something.

[31:18] John: Uh maybe something even crazier than that. But that would be so funny.

[31:22] Jamie: And I think you should do something like that, like a bet. Like we should all bet on who we think is winning HOH, and if we don't win the uh pick the correct person, then we have to suffer.

[31:30] John: Jamie, you're so good. We gotta do something like that.

[31:33] Jamie: That's a great idea. I got a perfect one for Thomas.

[31:35] John: What is it?

[31:36] Jamie: If you lose, you have to de-friend somebody.

[31:40] John: Oh, yeah. What do you mean? Defriend somebody?

[31:41] Jamie: Like you have to lose a friend.

[31:43] John: Like who?

[31:44] Jamie: I don't know.

[31:44] John: He's out.

[31:45] Jamie: Someone you gotta de-friend somebody because you just can't do it.

[31:48] John: Who should I de-friend then?

[31:49] Jamie: I don't know. Like Joey.

[31:53] John: Deal.

[31:54] Jamie: Deal.

[31:56] John: I'm dead. But you have to like fake defriend somebody.

[31:59] Jamie: I'll say fake.

[32:00] John: Fine.

[32:00] Jamie: You don't have to really defriend somebody. But you have to like be mean to someone and be like, listen.

[32:04] John: And you can do it over the podcast, and I bet that person would sound devastated.

[32:07] Jamie: Pretend like you're backdooring them.

[32:09] John: Yeah, backdoor them.

[32:10] Jamie: Yeah. Treat it like a backdoor situation, and you're stabbing your friend in the back because you're ruthless and you want to win $750,000.

[32:18] John: But this person isn't playing big brother, and you're just defending them in real life.

[32:21] Jamie: On Instagram? Like, just unfollow them.

[32:23] John: Unfollow them. Call them up. Say lose my number.

[32:27] Jamie: Lose my number. Call them up. Say lose my number.

[32:30] John: I don't want any.

[32:31] Jamie: I'll do it to sis.

[32:32] John: That'll be so funny.

[32:33] Jamie: I'll do it to this. She would be very confusing.

[32:34] John: She would be very great.

[32:37] Jamie: You can even make it a big brother thing. You can be like, it's you were the money, and I honestly have to just pick it up.

[32:42] John: I'll just be like, sis. Honestly, I'm so dumb with you.

[32:45] Jamie: Like, no, just be like, alright. Be like, I was just watching the season back our season back, and you know, I lost it because of you.

[32:53] John: You should cause mad beef like that, that's it.

[32:56] Jamie: Yeah, I think this has to be done.

[32:58] John: That's a great idea. Look, he's sweating thinking.

[33:01] Jamie: Should I call her right now?

[33:02] John: Yeah, you gotta do it now.

[33:06] Jamie: I'm so nervous.

[33:07] John: Don't do it. We'll come over to the show.

[33:08] Jamie: She knows you do the podcast right now. You can't do it right now.

[33:11] John: She'll not have an idea.

[33:13] Jamie: But you have to be like prepared for this.

[33:15] John: I'm nervous as hell.

[33:17] Jamie: I wish you guys can see him sweat like this. Comment a rainbow on his last post if you want him to do it.

[33:21] John: A rainbow!

[33:24] Jamie: No, comment. No, no, no. No, no rainbow. Comment a knife.

[33:27] John: Comment the knife.

[33:28] Jamie: Is there a knife emoji?

[33:29] John: Yes.

[33:31] Jamie: Yes, there's a knife.

[33:33] John: Spamming cyst in the back.

[33:35] Jamie: Hashtag butt first.

[33:37] John: I'm dead. Oh my gosh. Alright, cool. Well, we'll post a photo tomorrow and everyone could comment a knife on it.

[33:44] Jamie: But anyway, back to the bet. Why not we make bets to see who we think is gonna win HOH and whoever?

[33:50] John: Oh, yeah, what was the bet at first?

[33:52] Jamie: Well, I just said put a bucket of ice over someone's head or something corny like that.

[33:56] John: But you can think bigger than that.

[33:57] Jamie: The bet is if your person that doesn't win HOH loses, you can't do it.

[34:01] John: Wait, what is the personal defender?

[34:03] Jamie: Oh, so I'm choosing to who we So who do you guys think is gonna win the next HOH?

[34:09] John: Derek F, Xavier, or Kylan.

[34:13] Jamie: Yeah. Whoever's getting Derek F.

[34:15] John: That sucks.

[34:17] Jamie: Um I'll vote for Derek F.

[34:20] John: Yeah. I think Derek F is gonna win.

[34:22] Jamie: Alright.

[34:23] John: Xavier.

[34:23] Jamie: I'm gonna vote for Kylan. I honestly was gonna vote for Kylan anyway. So this is all fair.

[34:27] John: I really want to vote for Xavier, actually.

[34:31] Jamie: Alright, fine. Fine, I got Tarek F. And so the loser of this bet will go through some crazy punishment that will be a good thing.

[34:39] John: No, have and you guys can also write in on what you think some of the punishment should be.

[34:43] Jamie: That's great.

[34:46] John: Although I won't be won't be here for next episode, so I won't have to do anything.

[34:50] Jamie: Oh, you're gonna go to Hilton Head.

[34:51] John: I'm going to Hilton Head.

[34:52] Jamie: Pooh. We're gonna make you do a punishment up in Hilton Head if you lose.

[34:56] John: Actually, if Derek F wins, I think we're all losers here. Like we just all have to just do something.

[35:03] Jamie: Yeah. Especially that Thomas tried bailing on him after like two seconds of saying, I'll take Derek Ev.

[35:08] John: No, I want him. I'm happy to have Derek F.

[35:10] Jamie: Yeah, I would have been a good one. And I think he's gonna win. HOHP, but a guy can dream.

[35:15] John: Yeah. 100%. So wait. That's this is uh that's kind of like a nice point. So if Derek F won HOH, he's best ease with Ozza, but he has a deal with the guys.

[35:26] Jamie: What does he do?

[35:27] John: Ooh. Uh I think he would choose to evict Kyland.

[35:31] Jamie: Yeah. I think Kylie out of them too.

[35:35] John: Yeah, he does have a crush on Kylan. They shared a fetch smoothie.

[35:37] Jamie: I think Kylan has a crush on Xavier, actually.

[35:41] John: Interesting. This is like a love triangle.

[35:43] Jamie: Yeah, major love triangle. Xavier has a crush on Alyssa.

[35:47] John: Yeah.

[35:48] Jamie: But Alyssa is a crush on Christian.

[35:50] John: Yeah.

[35:51] Jamie: Yeah. Meanwhile, Xavier was a good one. Christian has a crush on himself.

[35:54] John: I was gonna say Brent has a crush on the October. Love Octagon.

[35:56] Jamie: Jody's right. This is a love octagon.

[35:59] John: Wow. But yeah. Derek F might have to betray somebody.

[36:03] Jamie: That would be weird.

[36:04] John: He's absolutely gonna have to betray someone.

[36:06] Jamie: I just hope it's not Aza.

[36:08] John: I don't that would be good TV.

[36:11] Jamie: Honestly, see, that's the thing. No, but no matter what.

[36:14] John: I don't think Derek F would betray Ozza. I think he would betray one of the boys because he wants to win.

[36:21] Jamie: But honestly, it's not up to him. It's up to the veto.

[36:23] John: Really? Right. How much is it up to him?

[36:26] Jamie: It's just guarantees him safety.

[36:28] John: Right, that's true. I just opened up Twitter and Janelle tweeted, just wasted two hours of my life.

[36:34] Jamie: He's a savage. I love that.

[36:36] John: The first hour really was a waste.

[36:38] Jamie: Oh wait. Except to see Sarah. The smartest move would be for Derek F to keep Ozza though, because Ozza is infuriated with Kyland and Xavier.

[36:46] John: So there's a ninety-nine point ninety nine percent chance that he's gonna be in the final two, then that Derek F the Oza would take Derek F.

[36:52] Jamie: Right. Anyone bringing Xavier to the final two, if they win that final three part HOH is a fool.

[36:58] John: A big food.

[36:59] Jamie: A big food. I hope they dance bring him to Final Two.

[37:04] John: I bet you Xavier would cut Kylan if he gets the chance.

[37:08] Jamie: I think so too. Because he's his only big opposition.

[37:10] John: Like if he brought Ozel, like he's $750,000 richer. You gotta perceive that. Like a friendship is worth so much, but the prize is bigger than it's ever been.

[37:20] Jamie: I think he would have it in him also.

[37:22] John: The I always like people talk about what qualities you need to have to win Big Brother. You need to be able to be very disconnected from him.

[37:29] Jamie: Yeah.

[37:33] John: And have no friends.

[37:34] Jamie: That's what that's literally what I've been saying this entire time.

[37:36] John: No, disconnected. Disconnected.

[37:38] Jamie: That means not no friends.

[37:39] John: I don't mean that. Just like disconnected.

[37:42] Jamie: Like, think about it.

[37:43] John: That's essentially what no friends mean.

[37:45] Jamie: Think about I mean Derek, like no feelings almost.

[37:51] John: You can't have any.

[37:54] Jamie: But that's essentially what I mean, though, when I say no friends. Like you don't, you're not putting like people's feelings above a smart game choice.

[38:03] John: Well, I thought you said the criteria was having no friends because then you want the friends when you get in.

[38:09] Jamie: Exactly. So but the point is.

[38:11] John: No, but that's for the people that they cast. But the people that win aren't the ones that are just disconnected.

[38:18] Jamie: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The people that they cast, 90% of the cast are people that fit the criteria that I mentioned earlier.

[38:24] John: That's Xavier.

[38:27] Jamie: That's Xavier. Those totally disconnected.

[38:33] John: Xavier is not emotional at all. I know it went over my head. I'm so like, wow, like Xavier is like a Jackson where when you look at him, you're just like, there's you're not really here. You're just in another place. And you're like to the rest of the house, guess how are you all so blind and haven't actually taken multiple shots at this guy. Right. The one shot, of course he won the veto and got himself off. Even though I don't even think he would have went home either. No, Alyssa would have went home.

[39:01] Jamie: Yeah.

[39:02] John: Right. No, but he he's there. He's his eyes on the prize. He's not what whatever I I mean, I guess Ozza thinks this move tonight was her eyes being on the prize, but she didn't think that this the only case that this wouldn't have worked is if Kylan won the veto, and that's what happened. But that was the only case it wouldn't have worked. Yep, but every other case Xavier goes home. If she puts Kylan and Xavier on the block, one of them goes home no matter what. Unless Derek F No, there was only two of them. No, that was it.

[39:34] John: Yeah. So no matter what, if she puts the two of them on the block, you eliminate one of the risk. Yeah. There's no risk involved. One of them is going home, no, but you're breaking you're breaking your word.

[39:46] Jamie: So what?

[39:46] John: Well, no, not so what? Because she her goal was she outweighed the pros and cons. She thought that taking the risk of Kylan winning veto was a greater chance than putting the both of them on the block and losing her word.

[40:02] Jamie: Yeah.

[40:02] John: That was the risk that she took. High risk, high reward. She took a high risk. And it was hard reward reward in that risk at all. I do. She could say it like I think like taking on taking on the like part of your resume or part of your game that you broke your word in the end.

[40:25] Jamie: Yeah, but you can always rewrite that narrative.

[40:27] John: Like you can be like, it's not that you broke word, you took risks, and that's what this whole game's about. It's not about staying safe, really. I think that's the most overplayed line and strategy in Big Brother.

[40:39] Jamie: I was a loyal player. I stuck to those people, the people that always go home.

[40:42] John: Yeah.

[40:43] Jamie: Yeah, because was Jackson saying how loyal he was? He was just saying how many competitions he won.

[40:48] John: He was just a beast and was able to overcome everybody.

[40:50] Jamie: That's right.

[40:53] John: Yeah, absolutely not.

[40:54] Jamie: Yeah, that's fair.

[40:56] John: No, no, like all the past winners, they really don't say how. I wonder how celebrity Big Brother's gonna unfold though when that starts.

[41:02] Jamie: Oh, I'm so excited.

[41:03] John: Very, very excited for that. I can't imagine No, everybody keep talking. Joey's trying to talk, and we don't want him to keep talking to people.

[41:09] Tommy Bracco: So Thomas, what do you gotta say?

[41:11] John: I don't want to change the title.

[41:12] Tommy Bracco: No, no problem. Go ahead. But no, as the producer, um, I just want Thomas to talk about his weekend, his exciting weekend with uh his big brother cast.

[41:21] John: Oh yeah, you had a nice dinner.

[41:22] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, you're right. I went to brunch with Janelle, uh Caseer, Bo, and uh Christy and Ovi. It was so fun.

[41:31] John: Legends, yeah.

[41:33] Tommy Bracco: It was so cool. It was so cool to meet Janelle and uh Ovi. I mean, Janelle and Ovi, I know, uh yeah.

[41:39] John: Janelle and Caseur.

[41:40] Tommy Bracco: Uh it was my first time meeting them, and they were both incredible. They're awesome.

[41:44] John: I'm honestly so happy that Joey was not invited to that brunch.

[41:49] Tommy Bracco: No, no, no. Joey wasn't invited. But but I was called and told to come, John, just so you're gonna be able to do it.

[41:54] John: Well, I'm so happy that he got a last minute invite and he didn't go, but I have a reason because he never watched previous seasons of Big Brother, and he would not appreciate Janelle for the GOAT savage that she is.

[42:07] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[42:07] John: So he was he was not allowed to be in her presence.

[42:10] Jamie: Yeah, you're right.

[42:11] John: He was to be my president.

[42:13] Jamie: I agree with that.

[42:13] John: I don't get it. I tried to put on season six before I went to brunch. I was like, Joey, you don't get it out. Study A. Let's watch this season. He was like, I'm gonna go back to work in my room or whatever. So that's why he didn't get an infection.

[42:27] Jamie: And like people like Janelle is the reason why I miss old Big Brother because she was those kind of people that was like, I'm letting you know if you're my target. Like, and what if I win? What are you gonna do about it? Like be scared.

[42:38] John: Yeah.

[42:38] Jamie: She would I I missed that, like being up front with each other. Like the fact that they kept Alyssa in the dark until she left that house is just beyond beyond comprehension.

[42:48] John: Yeah.

[42:48] Jamie: Yeah.

[42:49] John: That's when there was like two, that's back when it was like two sides of the house, and every HOH was like so on edge because which side of the house is winning, because then the other side's going up.

[42:57] Jamie: Like and it was so much more emphasis.

[42:59] John: Like they used to like flip out when they won HOHs because they knew, all right, where our side's good for this week. That's it. Derek Lavassar changed Big Brother when on season 16 when he was so manipulative that he was able to play that kind of game that he kept everyone in the dark and juggled his relationships with everybody.

[43:17] Jamie: But ever since then, that has been the model that people strive to be.

[43:22] John: And it did change Big Brother's.

[43:29] Jamie: Comment a heart on Thomas's photo.

[43:32] John: What's this guy's deal? Comment come in a knife. That's what Joey said. I mean, that's what John's said. They don't even know what they're commenting for anymore.

[43:41] Jamie: Yeah, just too many.

[43:43] John: I'm trying to fulfill Jell's spot. She always does that.

[43:46] Jamie: Comments uh she does.

[43:48] John: It's a knife. She's very happy.

[43:51] Jamie: She's very happy she's not here. You don't have to fulfill anything.

[43:54] John: Uncle Phil's probably done with the breaking out that we're not talking about the challenge.

[43:58] Jamie: Oh shit.

[43:58] John: He's got to do his like little recap.

[44:00] Jamie: Yeah.

[44:01] John: So uh let me tell you what happened on the challenge from start to finish.

[44:06] Jamie: No, no, you guys don't give him any of that.

[44:09] John: He's just on it. They give him 20 seconds.

[44:12] Jamie: No, yeah, he gets he gets time. Jamie, this is what's great about it because he he likes to talk big brother, obviously, but he likes to talk all the other shows.

[44:19] John: But what he does with the other shows, because he his thing is like other people that listen to our podcasts, listen to other like watch other reality shows.

[44:27] Jamie: Right.

[44:27] John: But he forgets the part of that they watch the other reality shows, so he gives just recaps of the whole thing from start to finish.

[44:34] Jamie: Yeah.

[44:34] John: He'll be like, all right, so the challenge. So the first five minutes, they came back from the elimination and they celebrated, and then they did a new challenge, and then this person won. And then he just gives a because such a big part of him wants to be like a sports broadcaster.

[44:47] Jamie: Because that's what they do.

[44:48] John: Oh my god, you know what? They talk about what happens, and that's what he that's what he breeds.

[44:53] Jamie: That's a solid point.

[44:54] John: We have to give him like segments. I because you know he's been craving these segments, like he wants his time.

[45:00] Jamie: I know.

[45:00] John: Comment, comment a baseball if you want to get it, Joey.

[45:05] Jamie: Comment a baseball if you want a sports segment.

[45:08] John: That it seems so dead.

[45:10] Jamie: That's so good.

[45:14] John: Yeah, that'll be a whole new podcast that won't be real talk. That'll be sports talk.

[45:17] Jamie: And uh ran by Uncle Phil.

[45:20] John: No, he makes hints to like like since this podcast got started. He like every time I see him, he'll make like a hint like, oh John, start on a sports podcast soon.

[45:28] Jamie: Yeah, he's like for me to do it with him, and I'm just like, alright, yeah, let me know.

[45:32] John: He's dying. There's no one that has more baseball knowledge than him, I think.

[45:35] Jamie: No.

[45:36] John: Yeah, he doesn't know. No, if I were to put him on a baseball trivia show, he would do well.

[45:40] Jamie: 100%.

[45:41] John: I think you're right. Um, speaking of other baseball bat if you want John to be on a podcast with Uncle Phil.

[45:48] Jamie: All these emojis.

[45:49] John: That's enough, Joey. No, I swear, if any of you guys are keeping up with these emojis, I can't wait. Um what's it called?

[45:57] Jamie: Uh oh, speaking of other shows, the circle just released new episodes.

[46:01] John: We're gonna start to focus on that as we as Big Brother comes to a close. Um but I'm really liking it.

[46:07] Jamie: At first I wasn't.

[46:09] John: I was not liking it at all.

[46:10] Jamie: Are you caught up?

[46:11] John: I'm not caught up with the new episodes that just came out.

[46:14] Jamie: But I only watched the first two.

[46:16] John: Yeah, let's let's get on the same page and then we'll figure it out.

[46:18] Jamie: You didn't?

[46:19] John: Taylor, you look gorgeous. Your hair looks gorgeous. You're so beautiful.

[46:24] Jamie: See, look, this is the criteria that Thomas got. Like, he doesn't want to lose a friend in Taylor, so he's hyping her up.

[46:29] John: Yeah, it's true.

[46:30] Jamie: Is that from Great?

[46:32] John: Yeah, I love it. Um anyway, so we'll start to focus on the circle uh later on.

[46:38] Jamie: But um disappointed that they're not doing it.

[46:40] John: I'm like, I know.

[46:41] Jamie: I was major disappointed.

[46:43] John: I love it. I just don't like when things don't go my way in shows. Like, that's why like I'm so angry about Big Brother right now because it's not going the way I want to, which is like Hannah and Tiffany getting further.

[46:51] Jamie: So, like, when the circle is not going my way, I like I protested it.

[46:56] John: I'm like, I'm really I don't want to watch this anymore, right, Taylor?

[46:59] Jamie: Who did you my favorite season, honestly?

[47:01] John: What?

[47:02] Jamie: Wow.

[47:03] John: I like the big twist in the beginning with the clone.

[47:06] Jamie: That was pretty sick.

[47:07] John: It didn't go her way.

[47:08] Jamie: That's why.

[47:08] John: Why you wanted to I wanted her around.

[47:11] Jamie: She was she's like, now she's on the show, I think, to be the clone and get voted out.

[47:17] John: I only saw the first two episodes of the circle, but that is absolutely hysterical that nobody believed that she was herself.

[47:24] Jamie: Oh, I know.

[47:25] John: Like, that is so funny. That one person was like, oh, that that's her.

[47:29] Jamie: That's the real show.

[47:31] John: She knew it was a Clemson shirt.

[47:34] Jamie: Like, come on.

[47:35] John: Yeah, that right there when I saw that picture come up, I was like, oh, she she wins it right here. She knows the fish, she knows like the shirt. And like, if anyone knows anything about like Southern people, college football is like their pride and joy.

[47:49] Jamie: Clemson, Alabama, LSU, like they're bigger, like down south, like their college football teams and sports teams, yeah, are bigger than pro teams.

[47:57] John: They like live and die by those.

[47:59] Jamie: So when she said like go Clemson, like go tigers, I was like, yeah, that wraps it up for her.

[48:04] John: And then everyone's like, nah, phony.

[48:07] Jamie: Yeah, no.

[48:08] John: That's why I don't know. Part of me thinks it's fixed.

[48:12] Jamie: I don't know.

[48:13] John: All I know is that circle people would not do good on Big Brother.

[48:17] Jamie: Oh my god.

[48:18] John: There's so criteria of ooh, friends.

[48:21] Jamie: Friends.

[48:22] John: Yeah, you're right.

[48:22] Jamie: That's like, oh, that the show's all about friends.

[48:24] John: But I guess that's the purpose. You want to be liked.

[48:26] Jamie: Right.

[48:26] John: So that makes sense. Big brother, it's more about just playing good.

[48:29] Jamie: It's different.

[48:30] John: The more I watch it, the more I like at first, I'm like, there's so many similarities. They're actually very different.

[48:35] Jamie: Very different.

[48:35] John: How you play is very different.

[48:38] Jamie: It's more about ass kissing in the circle.

[48:40] John: Right, yeah.

[48:41] Jamie: Yeah.

[48:41] John: Anyway.

[48:42] Jamie: Alright, cool.

[48:43] John: Uh, we will see you all next week. We're gonna have some interviews coming up, so look out for those episodes that'll be happening on different days.

[48:49] Jamie: We there was there was big brother beef in the challenge.

[48:53] John: Fashion wash Josh's face.

[48:55] Jamie: Yeah.

[48:56] John: I didn't watch, but I heard.

[48:59] Jamie: You did say fashion.

[49:00] John: I'm sitting in Uncle Phil's share. That's why.

[49:03] Jamie: I got it.

[49:04] John: Fessy. Where's your notepad?

[49:05] Jamie: Where's his notepad?

[49:07] John: Alright. That's all I want to say.

[49:08] Jamie: Yeah.

[49:09] John: Yeah, Fessy. I've had enough of Joey. I gotta go home.

[49:11] Jamie: Let's on that.

[49:11] John: Josh's face. You gonna defend me?

[49:13] Jamie: No, don't defend him.

[49:15] John: I've had enough of Joey. I need to go home.

[49:18] Jamie: Let's rap it.

[49:20] John: Aw, I would defend him.

[49:21] Jamie: Don't talk about my boyfriend like that.

[49:23] John: You tell him.

[49:24] Jamie: That was so that was like the nicest.

[49:27] John: Hey, John, if you'll talk about my comment to uh like a gay couple holding hands, that emoji is on John's picture.

[49:34] Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

[49:35] John: At Jesus blow him up with gay shit.

[49:38] Jamie: No, no.

[49:40] John: Just comment my name. You guys are making me sound like I'm like anti-gay.

[49:43] Jamie: No, I just I'm anti-Joey.

[49:46] John: I'm just anti-Joey. I don't like Joey.

[49:48] Jamie: No, but I was trying to think of an emoji that would be like for us.

[49:51] John: Like the gay emoji, I guess.

[49:53] Jamie: Comment a knife. Because Thomas is defriending sis.

[49:57] John: And on the channel, yeah, just send Joey. Send Thomas straight up threats if you wouldn't do like anything he's saying tonight.

[50:03] Jamie: So dead.

[50:04] John: This is great. Honestly, we should tell my dad to stay in Chicago and gel.

[50:09] Jamie: She doesn't need to come back.

[50:11] John: Great. You guys killed it. Thank you for giving me this opportunity.

[50:15] Jamie: Oh my god.

[50:15] John: It's a lot more fun than I thought it was gonna be. It seems like it's always work.

[50:18] Jamie: No, it's funny.

[50:20] John: It is fun.

[50:21] Jamie: Oh, also shout out to Jamie because she fixes everything.

[50:23] John: Yeah, Jamie is also a good one.

[50:24] Jamie: I am their tech support. They don't really know how to work these microphones, but I do.

[50:28] John: And uh it's crazy because all I had to do was self-teach myself with YouTube videos.

[50:32] Jamie: I'm nobody nobody else can comprehend those videos except me, I guess.

[50:37] John: It's great.

[50:38] Jamie: It's so great.

[50:39] John: Uh well.

[50:40] Jamie: Alright, cool.

[50:41] John: Um anyway.

[50:42] Jamie: All right, guys, thank you so much. We're gonna go one, two, three.

[50:45] John: It's been real.

[50:46] Jamie: Oh, that's how you guys end this now.

[50:48] John: That's like new, yeah.

[50:49] Jamie: How recent has this been?

[50:50] John: No, they've been doing it for a while. Probably like three seasons.

[50:52] Jamie: Ah, you guys have seasons of this?

[50:55] John: I think we're at season six.

[50:56] Jamie: What?

[51:00] John: Let's go.

[51:02] Jamie: One, two, three.

[51:03] John: I can't wait to go real.

[51:06] Jamie: Alright, thank you guys. Have a good night.

[51:08] John: Love you, John. Please get me out.

[51:10] Jamie: Come in a backstab emoji.

[51:11] John: Take me home.

[51:15] Jamie: Take me home.

[51:17] John: Bye, everybody.