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[0:07] Tommy Bracco: Hi guys, it's Tommy.

[0:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: And Anjelica.

[0:10] Tommy Bracco: Hold on, too few.

[0:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: And you're listening to Real Tawk.

[0:15] Tommy Bracco: Um, this is a very exciting day because for the first time ever we are recording our episode, the video.

[0:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um we've got the video footage.

[0:25] Tommy Bracco: Very exciting.

[0:26] Phil Bracco: Oh boy, oh boy.

[0:27] Tommy Bracco: Big things coming our way.

[0:28] Phil Bracco: Real Tawk 2021.

[0:30] Tommy Bracco: Oh god.

[0:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Trying new things.

[0:32] Tommy Bracco: Wow.

[0:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, alright, so let's dive right in.

[0:36] Tommy Bracco: Um, Challenge, Bachelor.

[0:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: What do we have to do?

[0:39] Phil Bracco: Really?

[0:39] Tommy Bracco: You want to go there normally? Like we like to, you know, get our feet wet, talk about our lives, like what's going on with Uncle Phil?

[0:45] Phil Bracco: Oh, he's already ready.

[0:46] Tommy Bracco: He took his deep breath. What do you have to tell us?

[0:49] Phil Bracco: No, I have nothing to say right now.

[0:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: You didn't?

[0:53] Phil Bracco: No.

[0:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Are you sure about that?

[0:55] Phil Bracco: I'm absolutely positive. I think you know, I'm very happy to be here tonight. I think this is gonna be a fun episode. I'm looking forward to it.

[1:02] Tommy Bracco: Alright, interesting. Do you want to talk about our fight yesterday?

[1:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: I need to know.

[1:07] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, because Anjelica doesn't really know about the fight.

[1:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: I heard, but I don't know what the details were.

[1:12] Tommy Bracco: So, Phil, do you want to go?

[1:14] Phil Bracco: Can I just say I just want to start off by saying I'm going into this with a little bias because Annabelle, who, you know, Tommy says her pride enjoyed gold, I'm the favorite was actually sticking up for Uncle Phil, and she never does that.

[1:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: No way.

[1:30] Phil Bracco: So I would imagine that it had to be really bad.

[1:35] Tommy Bracco: I didn't say anything.

[1:36] Phil Bracco: He yelled at me.

[1:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: What happened?

[1:38] Tommy Bracco: You yelled at me.

[1:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: What is she saying?

[1:41] Phil Bracco: Alright. You want to go and tell the story or not?

[1:43] Tommy Bracco: No, you go first.

[1:46] Phil Bracco: We did a TikTok video the day before, and I kept saying, listen, it's hurting me. I have a bad shoulder. I'm having a hard time with this, right?

[1:55] Tommy Bracco: Didn't stop. We had to keep going. 16 takes. You know how it is.

[1:58] Phil Bracco: Okay. Right? It's never perfect. Anyway, so now we do it. So then he comes up yesterday and goes, I want to do another TikTok video. And I'm like, I physically can't do it today. And he wouldn't take an over for an answer. And I tried about 18 different times of saying, I can't do it today. But because I had physically couldn't. I basically couldn't.

[2:16] Tommy Bracco: But, but Anjelica, you know what the problem was? I would have a smirk at the end. So he thought I was kidding.

[2:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Now, you have you've seen this happen like in action. You personally have seen it. Has there ever been a time where I asked my dad to do a video and he's like, Yes, I'm so excited, let's do it?

[2:33] Phil Bracco: No.

[2:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Every single time we do it, I have to beg him.

[2:37] Tommy Bracco: Not the one that's gonna be a good one. And then he's always happy.

[2:39] Phil Bracco: Nope.

[2:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. No, literally every single time. So what made me think that this was anything different?

[2:45] Tommy Bracco: Right. I was begging him. I was like, I was like, you got this. And then he was saying, No, I can't, I'm really hurt. Smirk.

[2:53] Phil Bracco: No, Dad. Oh, see, he's gonna be a big thing. Mommy even said, mommy even said that she had to rub my shoulder in the morning. That's how bad I was in pain.

[3:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Uh, what does that mean? Like, I'm confused. Like, is that supposed to mean something?

[3:05] Phil Bracco: Mommy even said she had to rub my shoulder.

[3:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. Because I was in pain.

[3:10] Phil Bracco: Sure, because I'm not saying that you weren't in pain.

[3:14] Tommy Bracco: And what happened today? We did it.

[3:16] Phil Bracco: Well, anyway, no. So that is what the foundation of the fight was. But then he wound up screaming at me. He just snapped and he said, I told you I can't do a TikTok with you. I can't do it. I'm in pain. You don't take no for an answer. What else did you say?

[3:34] Tommy Bracco: Well, that's basically it.

[3:36] Phil Bracco: Yeah. So then I got really upset, and I said, Okay, then I will never ask you to do another one ever, ever, ever again.

[3:42] Tommy Bracco: And I said that's when you had your epiphany dream. And I said, Listen, I'm not asking not to do it again. I can't do it today. Who wants to beg people to do things?

[3:50] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah. Like over and over again. It's literally.

[3:58] Tommy Bracco: And you know what? And I was trying to get people. I had to go down and rip the bow wall down that I set up. I set up a whole huge bow wall. I just pulled it all down.

[4:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: For the Christmas video?

[4:08] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah. It was it was Wait, you're joking. Guys, just for anybody that doesn't understand, we were supposed to do a Christmas music video with our family, and it kept everybody got corona.

[4:18] Tommy Bracco: Everyone got corona!

[4:20] Phil Bracco: No, it's a pandemic.

[4:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, that's what happened.

[4:26] Tommy Bracco: Is that really what happened?

[4:27] Phil Bracco: Yes!

[4:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: When?

[4:28] Tommy Bracco: That's why do you think the dates were changing? Because this one had corona, this one was exposed, that one's friend was sick.

[4:35] Phil Bracco: At work, we had the man's injury. Kathy had to go shopping.

[4:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right, and Kathy went shopping one day.

[4:41] Phil Bracco: Serena was at a bigger one. Amber had corona.

[4:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, Amber.

[4:45] Phil Bracco: Amber and her boyfriend.

[4:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, they didn't.

[4:48] Phil Bracco: Well, we thought they did, remember?

[4:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[4:51] Phil Bracco: Yeah. It was a little corona related.

[4:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, anyway, I was just really sad about that. So I was saying the Christmas video didn't happen, but uh, that was besides the point. Really, the video.

[5:06] Tommy Bracco: It was more about like Dad, you're either in or you're out. But you gotta commit. Like, if you want to be in these videos, we gotta pump one out every day.

[5:18] Phil Bracco: We moved the gushing blood. We moved his chair over a little bit, so he's like all off balance. You can tell how uncomfortable he is.

[5:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why is he acting like Franny is taking so much of the chair?

[5:30] Phil Bracco: No, like she's really not.

[5:34] Tommy Bracco: He's leaning in so far actually.

[5:37] Phil Bracco: I'm leaning in what she's taking up.

[5:40] Tommy Bracco: I'm leaning in so hard that my side is hurting me.

[5:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why is it? Anyway, so I went to bed last night and I had a dream at Piffany. And I said, you know what? I'm not gonna give him a hard time. But in the same breath, he has to really realize I'm 57 years old, and some days I can't do two in a row.

[5:58] Phil Bracco: Not two in a row.

[5:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Two days in a row.

[6:00] Phil Bracco: No, say fair.

[6:01] Tommy Bracco: Two days in a row.

[6:02] Phil Bracco: Say fair.

[6:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, it's not fair because honestly, it's you're either in or out. And being in the middle of one a day.

[6:11] Phil Bracco: That's your mentality. Not everybody has the same drive and motivation and energy.

[6:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, but look at Aunt Kathy. Like Aunt Kathy is naked. I think he's a little jealous that Aunt Kathy's blowing away in TikTok. That's what I think it is.

[6:23] Phil Bracco: I'm sensing that too.

[6:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: You sense it, right? That's what it is. I mean, I just can't hit the FYP anymore. I don't know what it is. But sometimes that happens. I've seen it happen to a lot of people I follow that they have like 500,000 followers and they're getting literally less than 10,000 views.

[6:40] Tommy Bracco: But I it's something about the algorithm. But you would just have to keep pumping them out once a day.

[6:46] Phil Bracco: So that's my I don't know. Scott and Judy, he was pumping out like 20 videos a day.

[6:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, I know.

[6:52] Phil Bracco: Like one a day is actually.

[6:57] Tommy Bracco: That's what I'm saying. Like it doesn't, it just happens when it happens.

[7:02] Phil Bracco: I'm dead. Anyway, so that was the family drama over a TikTok video. And then I will let you know. I'm gonna let you in a little secret about it.

[7:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[7:11] Phil Bracco: Philip was all for it yesterday because he knew I wasn't doing it.

[7:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[7:15] Phil Bracco: But he really didn't want to do it yesterday either.

[7:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, I'm not it's not oh, you're trying to like make me upset or shock me. I'm not shocked.

[7:21] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[7:23] Tommy Bracco: So make up your.

[7:27] Phil Bracco: I bought you a gift.

[7:28] Tommy Bracco: What?

[7:29] Phil Bracco: What is this?

[7:30] Tommy Bracco: Oh, thank you.

[7:33] Phil Bracco: Wow.

[7:35] Phil Bracco: Podcasting for beginners.

[7:37] Tommy Bracco: I love it. That's so nice and so appropriate.

[7:40] Phil Bracco: Wow, Dad.

[7:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: So wait, wow, what a great segue to give him that. When were you planning on giving him that?

[7:45] Phil Bracco: I had to be harming the whole time waiting, Dad. This is actually so nice. I mean, you know, for beginners, I don't know. It's like a little bit backhanded compliment, but I feel like we're doing pretty well, you know.

[7:57] Tommy Bracco: But it's okay. I know we're trying to make the next step to have interviews with guests and stuff.

[8:01] Phil Bracco: Right.

[8:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: And we're having a little bit of an issue with that. I mean, I bought it. Did he give you a post and no reminder to talk to Nicole?

[8:07] Phil Bracco: Because I've been.

[8:08] Tommy Bracco: He's told me seven times every single day. It's really getting out of control.

[8:12] Phil Bracco: No, it's he pulled me to the side the other day to have a chance.

[8:15] Tommy Bracco: And you didn't do it.

[8:16] Phil Bracco: I did too. I brought it up.

[8:18] Tommy Bracco: Well, let me tell you guys what we're doing what's going on. You know what the problem is? I'm embarrassed now because I said something.

[8:24] Phil Bracco: No, I will tell you what happened. No, this is actually ridiculous. So we for the longest time we've been saying we want to start getting guests on the show. We want to set up the technology that we can call somebody in, do a little interview, and then put them on the next episode, whatever it is.

[8:40] Tommy Bracco: Um, my dad ordered a wire that we should have been able to do that.

[8:45] Phil Bracco: The wire so before the wire came in, he jumped the gun and went on Nicole Anthony's show and Eric's show and asked them to be a guest.

[8:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[8:56] Phil Bracco: On the show.

[8:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's you commented.

[8:58] Phil Bracco: I commented. They brought it up. We're gonna do something together. And I said, yes, Thomas is gonna call you tomorrow.

[9:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: We were commenting online that we were gonna do a crossover show, but it wasn't rooted in anything serious.

[9:09] Phil Bracco: But all you gotta do is then you went and commented on the show.

[9:12] Tommy Bracco: Well let's settle now once and for all. All you gonna do is touch base when they're in the touch base.

[9:16] Phil Bracco: Hey, we're gonna give you a call, and that's it.

[9:18] Tommy Bracco: Alright, alright. That's all I asked you to do for four days.

[9:21] Phil Bracco: Wait, but let me finish the story. So, anyway, we commented a little bit saying we're gonna do a crossover show, which we really want to do. Right. That's gonna be our priority when once we get this tech technology.

[9:31] Tommy Bracco: Okay.

[9:32] Phil Bracco: The wire comes in that my dad orders. It's the wrong wire.

[9:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, yeah.

[9:35] Phil Bracco: So now we don't call Apple by the way. You know what, Apple? They don't allow you in the store to talk to them anymore. You have to order online. So now I'm having a conversation online. Conversation. And the guy gives me the wrong wire.

[9:48] Tommy Bracco: Alright, so he got the wrong wire. He also jumped the gun and said, Thomas is gonna call you to set up a uh uh like a time to do like an interview thing with them, a crossover episode.

[9:59] Phil Bracco: So we don't have the wire.

[9:59] Tommy Bracco: But we don't have the wire.

[10:00] Phil Bracco: Alright, so when are we getting this wire?

[10:03] Tommy Bracco: I don't know.

[10:05] Phil Bracco: Did you order it?

[10:07] Tommy Bracco: No, I don't know what to order.

[10:09] Phil Bracco: They try to tell me, but they gave me a.

[10:15] Tommy Bracco: Tell him that once.

[10:17] Phil Bracco: That's what I'm saying. Tell him that once the wire is on its way, you will call Nicole.

[10:22] Tommy Bracco: I don't know what wire to get. I don't know what to do.

[10:24] Phil Bracco: Alright, you gotta figure that out.

[10:25] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, that this is on you.

[10:28] Phil Bracco: Where's Jamie Cousin?

[10:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's helping her mother on TikTok.

[10:31] Phil Bracco: Yeah. I mean, I mean that Kathy's taking all her time. It's not right.

[10:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean, are we entitled to any of the time and to begin with?

[10:38] Phil Bracco: I don't think so. But she might be able to figure out what wire to get.

[10:40] Tommy Bracco: Alright, let's move forward.

[10:42] Phil Bracco: Anyway, okay, cool. So that's what's been going on with the family. TikTok and the wire.

[10:47] Tommy Bracco: So we did one today. But look forward to it if he gets it done.

[10:50] Phil Bracco: Yes.

[10:51] Tommy Bracco: We will figure it out. Uh if anybody listens, tell Nicole and Eric. We will reach out to them, and hopefully they're up for doing a crossover episode.

[10:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean, it might be over it by now, but okay.

[11:00] Phil Bracco: Oh, okay. Over it.

[11:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, okay.

[11:01] Tommy Bracco: Um, I know, I love them.

[11:05] Phil Bracco: Alright.

[11:05] Tommy Bracco: Alright.

[11:06] Phil Bracco: Alright.

[11:06] Tommy Bracco: Let's uh start with just the let's start with the challenge because we've just watched it.

[11:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, we've just watched it. And honestly, there's not that much to say.

[11:12] Phil Bracco: It's so boring.

[11:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um it's not my show. I don't feel that it's boring.

[11:15] Phil Bracco: I don't agree.

[11:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. I think it's I think it's like great for what it is. I think it's doing well for what it is. I think this season's entertaining.

[11:26] Tommy Bracco: Because I saw you doing other things.

[11:28] Phil Bracco: No, you asked me one question. I'll answer it. Go ahead.

[11:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow. Well, you're really you're really good at that, by the way. I must tell you.

[11:32] Phil Bracco: You're really good.

[11:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know you were doing some other things. You were doing, uh, I guess some multitaskers.

[11:40] Phil Bracco: She was making logos.

[11:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Logos. She was making logos for our producers' new businesses.

[11:45] Phil Bracco: Yes.

[11:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, I thought this was uh that was an insane challenge. Even though I'm not a huge fan of the challenge, this season, the rookies are sticking together.

[11:54] Phil Bracco: And yes.

[11:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. We have some gameplay going on this season that usually doesn't exist.

[12:04] Phil Bracco: Me too. Well not a fan.

[12:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: As we're talking about the rookies sticking together, right?

[12:09] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[12:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Today they revealed that Teresa was working with the rookies.

[12:12] Phil Bracco: Yeah, which I like.

[12:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. Teresa won that challenge.

[12:15] Phil Bracco: She seems really small and like uh like unintentional.

[12:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's a move I would do.

[12:20] Phil Bracco: I know I would.

[12:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Wow. She's three kids, Teresa.

[12:25] Phil Bracco: Wow. Isn't that cool? She like won a challenge today. She's such a badass, and she's a mommy of three.

[12:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow. How do you feel about Ashley going home?

[12:33] Phil Bracco: Great. Like I don't really care about her.

[12:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know. I just feel like her energy is just annoying.

[12:39] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I agree with that. She is a little annoying.

[12:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: What? You don't the The issue is, um I haven't watched the challenge in the past. She was supposedly is a really good competitor and won a couple of uh uh seasons.

[12:53] Phil Bracco: She won two.

[12:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. That's a couple. Cam though, like tonight Ashley and Cam went in the challenge together and whatever the what is it called? Why am I blanking?

[13:04] Phil Bracco: They went in the uh Oh my god.

[13:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: The rank, the gold skull ring.

[13:08] Phil Bracco: The what did they do? The gold skull rank.

[13:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: What is it called?

[13:13] Phil Bracco: Elimination.

[13:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[13:15] Phil Bracco: The elimination, yeah, yeah.

[13:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's elimination, but there's a name for that.

[13:17] Phil Bracco: No, they went into the elimination.

[13:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but there's a name for his is uh um arena.

[13:22] Phil Bracco: I just don't remember off the top of my head.

[13:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Whatever anyway. We have really bad memories in the movie.

[13:29] Phil Bracco: So Cam and uh Ashley went into the elimination today.

[13:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Cam is a badass. I love Cam.

[13:35] Phil Bracco: Yeah. I love her confessionals.

[13:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love her. She reminds me a lot of Tori.

[13:42] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I agree with that.

[13:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's like real she's actually like a really nice, cool, chill person, but like also is a badass and has this like strong side to her.

[13:53] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah.

[13:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's how I feel about Tori, and she's very similar in that aspect.

[13:56] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[13:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I agree. Cam killed the the competition, the challenge.

[14:00] Phil Bracco: She did really good.

[14:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: With the rings. I liked that one too. I thought it was awesome.

[14:04] Phil Bracco: Yeah, it was a good thing. So I made a couple notes.

[14:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[14:06] Phil Bracco: On the challenge.

[14:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, on the challenge tonight, right? Um number one, it appears that they don't cook for themselves, that they actually have food catered in this thing, right?

[14:15] Phil Bracco: Uh huh.

[14:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Which I think is interesting based on Big Brother.

[14:18] Phil Bracco: These guys had to make their own food.

[14:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[14:20] Phil Bracco: Right. But I saw bins, like, you know, like bins from catered food.

[14:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: So yeah, they were and they were covered with saran wrap. They do get catering. They also are allowed to use the case.

[14:30] Phil Bracco: Did you see what kind of food it was?

[14:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I didn't pay attention to that.

[14:35] Phil Bracco: I don't pay attention to the food, but I I don't eat. I don't know what I would do on a show. I don't eat anything.

[14:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. But the other thing I want to know why did Leo leave, right?

[14:44] Phil Bracco: Because Leo left in the show.

[14:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[14:46] Phil Bracco: Right. Did you look it up?

[14:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: I did.

[14:48] Phil Bracco: Okay. And his answer was I just liked everybody and didn't want to like backstab anybody.

[14:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: I can't believe that's what he said.

[15:01] Phil Bracco: Right. He wasn't into it because he didn't want to hurt nobody.

[15:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but it was bigger than that.

[15:07] Phil Bracco: Yeah, there was something else that he just doesn't want to talk about.

[15:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's gotta be that. We could do some digging and find out though.

[15:14] Tommy Bracco: Um, the other thing is I went back to what you said before, like about the food. Something else that I noticed, they are allowed to use pens and pencils.

[15:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Teresa was writing down their names and stuff.

[15:26] Tommy Bracco: I didn't know that. I mean, it's really nothing like that. It's not like Big Brother at all.

[15:30] Phil Bracco: It's not even a little like Big Brother.

[15:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. They get to talk to their loved ones.

[15:36] Tommy Bracco: Like it's literally none of the aspects that make Big Brother Big Brother.

[15:40] Phil Bracco: That's why I don't know why they're like compared or like ever.

[15:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean, they're locked in a like bunker, house, whatever, and then they do challenges and they compete for power and eliminate each other.

[15:52] Tommy Bracco: One by one.

[15:53] Phil Bracco: Yes. Last person.

[15:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: It like this, it's the same foundation, but so many different aspects.

[15:58] Tommy Bracco: There are a lot of differences too.

[16:01] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[16:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, so a couple other things. I predicted that Corey and Ashley were gonna win that event.

[16:07] Tommy Bracco: That five mile run. They came in second, but uh so I didn't win.

[16:12] Phil Bracco: And then um the other thing was very funny. So was it worth saying like why bring that up?

[16:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like I'm confused.

[16:19] Tommy Bracco: Because he needed to let us know that he was that close to guests.

[16:23] Phil Bracco: That close. They were kind of catching up at the end and then um nothing like American Idol.

[16:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: He was way far off with that. Remember that?

[16:31] Tommy Bracco: I don't know. I I destroyed you in American Idol, but that's besides the point.

[16:34] Phil Bracco: My god, it really is crazy. What happened to his memory though?

[16:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know. I guess ten out of ten in the top ten.

[16:42] Tommy Bracco: No, is that first off, is that smell for anything?

[16:45] Phil Bracco: Yeah. I'm gonna vomit.

[16:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's number one. But let we'll get to American Idol to put back on, all right.

[16:51] Tommy Bracco: Um I thought it was very uh looking for Don't look up.

[16:56] Phil Bracco: You're bad.

[16:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I thought it was very funny the uh the arguments that were going on back and forth between all the contestants because they had to carry this big heavy thing five miles.

[17:08] Tommy Bracco: Oh, yeah, let's talk about Nam and Lolo.

[17:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Nom and Lolo. That was wild.

[17:11] Phil Bracco: I mean, she just kept in. She just kept yelling at the poor guy.

[17:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, she has that a reputation for being a tough for some reason.

[17:21] Tommy Bracco: Tell me he doesn't remind you of like Paulie for some like weird reason.

[17:25] Phil Bracco: He's like so sweet and in this.

[17:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, he does remind me of Paulie. I felt really bad.

[17:29] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, he was he was like, Well, you're yelling at me, and I was getting upset.

[17:33] Phil Bracco: I know. That was he said she's hurting my feelings.

[17:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love him. But but she says, I'm a big competitor and I don't like to lose.

[17:42] Phil Bracco: She is, yes.

[17:43] Tommy Bracco: Okay, fine. She was like that on Big Brother.

[17:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: But you can only control yourself.

[17:47] Phil Bracco: You can't control other people.

[17:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like she's like a sore loser a little bit. When she's losing, she like acts out and blames it on somebody else because she can't take responsibility.

[17:55] Tommy Bracco: She can't handle losing.

[17:56] Phil Bracco: Right.

[17:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: So she has to put the blame on somebody else and create some drama.

[18:01] Tommy Bracco: I'm a sore loser, so I get it.

[18:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: She is like a really frickin' strong crazy beast. It's insane.

[18:10] Phil Bracco: She is. She's one of my favorites, I think, actually.

[18:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Really?

[18:14] Tommy Bracco: I just love that.

[18:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like neither here nor there for me.

[18:17] Phil Bracco: She is a rookie, but she's playing like a vet.

[18:20] Tommy Bracco: Respected like a vet.

[18:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, no, I I mean both look at her.

[18:23] Phil Bracco: And like she's an Olympic.

[18:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: And like, yeah, I was just gonna say, like, what she is outside of the house.

[18:28] Tommy Bracco: You know.

[18:29] Phil Bracco: Makes sense.

[18:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: How much uh longer is this list of the challenge?

[18:33] Tommy Bracco: I'm so excited for the bachelor's.

[18:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: One more thing on the challenge, but then they went and they had to figure out who's gonna get nominated.

[18:40] Phil Bracco: And Ashley really had a great campaign, but she still got nominated.

[18:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, Ashley's campaign was awesome.

[18:48] Tommy Bracco: She said, You want a strong girl in the finale because you want a strong girl on your team, so that she was talking to the men, they're gonna partner up.

[18:57] Phil Bracco: Right.

[18:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, it would have been easier for them to win if they had a stronger girl.

[19:01] Tommy Bracco: I totally hear that, but it's still she she already won twice.

[19:07] Phil Bracco: It's like the same reason why no one would have wanted Nicole uh Franzel to win Big Brother.

[19:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like you just don't want somebody who already won the money again to win.

[19:16] Tommy Bracco: You want to get them out.

[19:17] Phil Bracco: You become a huge target.

[19:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: So that's actually how to go.

[19:20] Tommy Bracco: Um that's all I had on the challenge.

[19:22] Phil Bracco: I mean, um, Fessy and obviously and Anisa, he she just re-got him as a partner.

[19:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: She picked him again.

[19:28] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[19:29] Phil Bracco: And then they had to run a five-mile thing, and they came in last.

[19:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[19:32] Tommy Bracco: So he wasn't very happy.

[19:33] Phil Bracco: But it's okay.

[19:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's fine.

[19:34] Tommy Bracco: They can come in last.

[19:35] Phil Bracco: Yeah, like Fessy, why would you wanna yeah?

[19:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why would you want to win again?

[19:39] Tommy Bracco: I know.

[19:39] Phil Bracco: He's just he's a competitor.

[19:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[19:41] Tommy Bracco: And Anisa said that in her confessional.

[19:43] Phil Bracco: She's like, we don't need this, Fessy. Why are you freaking out?

[19:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway. Love him.

[19:48] Tommy Bracco: I want to mention one more thing about our TikTok videos.

[19:50] Phil Bracco: Oh, god, it calls it.

[19:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know that you really pushed me because the fans really want to watch me dance, right?

[19:56] Tommy Bracco: So that's why you really want me on your videos.

[19:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um on our last video, someone called him the fat man in yellow.

[20:05] Phil Bracco: Stop.

[20:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, that it is a that is a fact.

[20:09] Tommy Bracco: It was one person, but most of the time I get a lot of compliments, and that's why he needs me in the video.

[20:14] Phil Bracco: Yeah, you got a lot of positivity.

[20:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Fat man in yellow.

[20:20] Phil Bracco: Speaking of yellow, or that was a fairly.

[20:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Speaking of yellow, guys.

[20:25] Tommy Bracco: Oh, yeah, let's talk about the game.

[20:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then we're gonna get to the batch.

[20:27] Tommy Bracco: Uh, since we're recording, you can pull it out, no?

[20:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: We attempted to tie-dye a few of the shirts, and they came out terribly.

[20:35] Tommy Bracco: Um, so we wound up just sending out the white ones.

[20:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's fine.

[20:39] Tommy Bracco: It's fine.

[20:40] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[20:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway. So Thomas, you know, he hands me this stiff, stiff shirt to put on today.

[20:48] Tommy Bracco: He's forcing us to do a photo shoot.

[20:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: Whatever, it's stiff, but like the yellow wasn't bad.

[20:54] Phil Bracco: And then he walks in, and it literally looks like somebody shot he repeatedly stabbed someone in the face, and then moved down to the chest, and the blood was just splattering on him, and then he came in here ready for the photo shoot.

[21:08] Tommy Bracco: Like, it literally is a fully blood stained yellow shirt.

[21:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was terrible. When I tell you, I mean, they need they need this on movie sets.

[21:17] Phil Bracco: Like, it was so accurately bloodstained.

[21:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Please can you get it?

[21:24] Tommy Bracco: But the thing was, we I was told we're gonna tie-dye one shirt.

[21:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: The next thing you know, there were five shirts tie-dyed.

[21:30] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, and they're all terrible.

[21:31] Phil Bracco: This will be great because this you can put up the video of what we're recording right now as the promo for this episode because they need to see the shirt.

[21:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[21:41] Tommy Bracco: So Victoria's on it, she's getting it.

[21:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's so bad.

[21:46] Phil Bracco: Was it brown?

[21:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, the well, when we were tie-dyeing them, the the original ink or whatever.

[21:52] Tommy Bracco: So first of all, it's got dan by the way, the whole process.

[21:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, who won gets white shirts?

[21:58] Tommy Bracco: Why wouldn't you get black?

[22:00] Phil Bracco: That's number one.

[22:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Then we're trying to tie dye them, and he gets dandelion yellow, and it when I tell you it is diarrhea brown.

[22:08] Tommy Bracco: So this one's no, no, this one.

[22:13] Phil Bracco: And the best part, Joe.

[22:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Show them.

[22:16] Tommy Bracco: Show them right now.

[22:17] Phil Bracco: Can I show them?

[22:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, it won't show on yours.

[22:19] Tommy Bracco: No!

[22:20] Phil Bracco: Yes, it will.

[22:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Look at that.

[22:22] Tommy Bracco: Let me show it on this one because it'll come out clear.

[22:25] Phil Bracco: Oh no.

[22:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Go to that one corner at the bottom.

[22:28] Tommy Bracco: No, the armpit!

[22:30] Phil Bracco: The armpit on your side.

[22:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: It really is so like it's black.

[22:37] Tommy Bracco: It's so funny because show that bottom corner.

[22:39] Phil Bracco: What bottom corner?

[22:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's more everywhere.

[22:42] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[22:43] Phil Bracco: So, but Joe, here's the best part.

[22:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: The professional who came here with the shirts, Lord and Lane, said, I don't recommend you tie-dye them.

[22:52] Tommy Bracco: And then we did.

[22:54] Phil Bracco: You know what? It is what it is.

[22:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's fine.

[22:56] Tommy Bracco: It's fine.

[22:57] Phil Bracco: It's fine.

[22:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: We live and we learn.

[23:00] Tommy Bracco: This is really just now.

[23:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: We learned how to not tie-dye.

[23:05] Tommy Bracco: So we'll never forget.

[23:07] Phil Bracco: If you only left it in yellow, it would have been fine.

[23:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: The yellow actually came out good.

[23:11] Tommy Bracco: We're trying with like yellow and red like a sunset.

[23:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: I literally thought that.

[23:16] Tommy Bracco: I can't even.

[23:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm not kidding.

[23:22] Tommy Bracco: I really thought this is gonna get sunset vibes.

[23:22] Phil Bracco: And why is Uncle Phil soft and mine isn't?

[23:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Mine was mine cardboard and his was not.

[23:30] Tommy Bracco: His feels great.

[23:30] Phil Bracco: I think he's washed his another like two or three times.

[23:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Did you?

[23:35] Tommy Bracco: Is that what it is?

[23:37] Phil Bracco: I don't know.

[23:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, okay, we're ready for the bachelor.

[23:39] Tommy Bracco: Yes, bachelor time.

[23:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um the whole episode, I mean, we don't really we don't need to talk about Serena's date.

[23:46] Tommy Bracco: Okay, cute.

[23:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: They had a great date, love Serena. Great.

[23:49] Tommy Bracco: Now, Sarah and the girls.

[23:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, I need to pull up names because you know it with that.

[23:58] Tommy Bracco: Serena C, uh Anna, MJ.

[24:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: I remember, I literally will never forget.

[24:04] Tommy Bracco: Okay.

[24:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Serena C, Anna, MJ, um, and then uh what's up, Queen Victoria?

[24:13] Tommy Bracco: Kit.

[24:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Kit also is going to be horrible.

[24:18] Tommy Bracco: Whatever she said.

[24:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, that's terrible.

[24:21] Tommy Bracco: Um, okay. First off, I gotta start off by saying, me and John, John watched it with me.

[24:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: We are so thankful for Katie.

[24:33] Tommy Bracco: Like, I am on obsessed with her.

[24:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's the most level-headed, mature, like girl that has ever been on The Bachelor.

[24:41] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I agree.

[24:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, she's amazing.

[24:43] Tommy Bracco: But isn't it funny that she was the one that brought in the vibrator?

[24:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's the same thing.

[24:48] Tommy Bracco: I didn't even remember that. That's the same girl.

[24:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's insane.

[24:51] Tommy Bracco: But do you remember when the vibrator intro happened?

[24:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: I was like, I actually think this girl could be cool.

[24:56] Tommy Bracco: Like, I think that there's a funny way to do it.

[24:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, I might not hate her.

[24:59] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, yeah.

[25:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: She might not be crazy.

[25:02] Tommy Bracco: Um, so let's like rewind a little bit.

[25:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: So Sarah, you know.

[25:08] Tommy Bracco: Fainted.

[25:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Sarah faints.

[25:10] Tommy Bracco: Row ceremonies on pause.

[25:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: But like, not really.

[25:14] Tommy Bracco: She didn't actually faint.

[25:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: She just like really lightheaded.

[25:18] Tommy Bracco: Walked on the floor.

[25:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: So after she walked on the floor, she her and Matt James were hugging outside, you know, girls are waiting for row ceremony.

[25:27] Tommy Bracco: Then the next day, this is literally the next day.

[25:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: They go on the group date and they're on the group date, and Sarah decides to walk over because she's feeling a little insecure.

[25:37] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[25:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: What are so now take the whole situation and aftermath of that?

[25:43] Tommy Bracco: How do you feel about that?

[25:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: How do you feel about her going in on a group date?

[25:48] Tommy Bracco: I'm interested to hear Thomas's opinion right now.

[25:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Mm-hmm.

[25:51] Tommy Bracco: Me too.

[25:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: I kind of feel like she shouldn't.

[25:52] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[25:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: To be honest with you.

[25:54] Tommy Bracco: No, when Blake did it, he was okay with Blake doing it.

[25:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Really?

[25:58] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[25:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Blake did it?

[26:00] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[26:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love him.

[26:01] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, that's because he was biased.

[26:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love Blake Morgan.

[26:04] Tommy Bracco: You don't, he could do no wrong.

[26:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: I just my thing was.

[26:09] Tommy Bracco: But honestly, all in my Sarah can't do no wrong in my eye either.

[26:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like she was.

[26:13] Tommy Bracco: She's amazing.

[26:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: I really love her.

[26:15] Tommy Bracco: I'm I'm very much like Team Sarah in this whole thing.

[26:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: But she brought me to think that that was wrong.

[26:21] Tommy Bracco: I do.

[26:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[26:22] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[26:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel that you just had a one on one with him.

[26:32] Tommy Bracco: Like you had all of his time and attention.

[26:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I understand that you're gaining feelings, but you're uh you're a grown woman.

[26:39] Tommy Bracco: Control yourself and like stay back.

[26:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like it's literally that you I I just feel like you're only solely thinking about yourself in that situation.

[26:49] Tommy Bracco: You're not thinking about one other person.

[26:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: And you're on a television show with 20 other women right now.

[26:57] Tommy Bracco: So you don't have that option.

[26:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: 32 women think of only yourself.

[27:02] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[27:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: You know what I mean?

[27:04] Tommy Bracco: Like I totally agree.

[27:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: I really do.

[27:06] Tommy Bracco: Um so at that point, I was very so no, like I said, nothing had happened yet.

[27:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: Not the aftermath takes my dad of it.

[27:13] Tommy Bracco: I I'm I'm really curious, like what goes into this production wise.

[27:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Uh like a case like this. Remember when um Ed, goofy looking Ed in the last season, The Bachelorette, uh, he went he tried to go to someone's house uh to see Taysha or Claire or whoever it was, and he saw he went to Chris Harrison's house instead by accident.

[27:36] Tommy Bracco: Why couldn't Sarah just go after hours after the group date?

[27:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why did she have to go during?

[27:42] Tommy Bracco: That's gotta be production.

[27:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: You think?

[27:45] Tommy Bracco: That's gotta be.

[27:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: They're allowed to they are allowed to go to see somebody after hours if they need to.

[27:55] Tommy Bracco: It's late at night, it's midnight, but I feel like I just have to go get something off my chest.

[28:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: But why wouldn't production be okay with that now?

[28:01] Tommy Bracco: She was probably advocating him to do right then and there.

[28:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: She was emotional in that moment.

[28:06] Tommy Bracco: She wanted her validation in that moment.

[28:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: So she went.

[28:13] Tommy Bracco: So you gotta go.

[28:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: If you're gonna go, go like encouraged it.

[28:16] Tommy Bracco: I never watched it before.

[28:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know it flickers.

[28:20] Tommy Bracco: We have flickers, but I have never saw this show.

[28:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: We have flickers before Peter.

[28:26] Tommy Bracco: Right?

[28:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: I've never saw the show before Peter, but every season it's the same thing happens.

[28:30] Tommy Bracco: What I noticed, me and Uncle Fella talking so similar tonight because I have this stupid fucking kinker sore on my tongue.

[28:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: So I'm like doing that weird thing that he does, like with the S's.

[28:40] Tommy Bracco: Like I feel like I can't like talk right.

[28:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: You haven't been able to tell that like I'm I'm talking like a little weird.

[28:47] Tommy Bracco: No, not really because I'm trying to power through when I'm just in pain.

[28:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: You just gave it away to her right.

[28:54] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, really bad.

[28:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my god.

[28:55] Tommy Bracco: But it's just powering.

[28:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: But the show must go on.

[28:58] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, the show must go on.

[28:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: The show must go on.

[29:01] Tommy Bracco: Show must go on.

[29:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, but I'm uh I'm noticing a pattern in the the three seasons I watch now.

[29:08] Tommy Bracco: Okay.

[29:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: The same things happen.

[29:10] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[29:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[29:11] Tommy Bracco: Absolutely.

[29:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I feel like that can't just be coincidental.

[29:16] Tommy Bracco: I feel like it's gotta be production.

[29:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: So like as well.

[29:19] Tommy Bracco: But even if me as an adult woman, if I was in her situation, which I am not, so it's hard to say, but I would think that even if production was saying I would I would just say no.

[29:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: I agree with you.

[29:35] Tommy Bracco: I do.

[29:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: I totally agree.

[29:36] Tommy Bracco: But all right, so now the aftermath.

[29:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: So she comes out, she says, I just want to let everybody know that I had to go talk to him.

[29:46] Tommy Bracco: It was a couple of minutes.

[29:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Literally, probably less than five minutes.

[29:50] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[29:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: A little dramatic the way they reacted.

[29:54] Tommy Bracco: But yeah.

[29:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Also, the other thing that I noticed.

[29:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: So, so how many girls got to talk to him that night? Like a handful, right? Because Sarah came, only a handful of girls were able to talk to him. Why did the group date have to end right after Sarah? The whole thing was planned out by production. Like, I was like, there's no frickin' way that even if Sarah didn't come, so many of them wouldn't have gotten to speak to him anyway. It's not like she cut in and took all of their time. Literally eight of them, eight of them didn't get to speak to Matt, and they're upset, but she only took three minutes, five minutes. It like what did it be? Those five minutes didn't cut it, don't think. Yeah, we don't know how long. I would probably say like ten minutes max.

Max. Sure. But she even said a couple of minutes, then they even confirmed it was even a couple of minutes, but I was saying is that you're these girls sitting here. You're pissed that a girl who just had a one-on-one is in there talking to him, and you're sitting there with these other women, and you don't have any you don't have your phones or anything. You're literally just waiting for time to pass by. Those minutes must have felt like hours. So, like I think it was dramatic, and it was probably only at max ten minutes, but it probably felt like forever for those girls. It probably felt like a really long time. So I moved so slow in situations like that.

[31:24] Tommy Bracco: No, I agree with you. I think that's a hundred percent true. A bunch of bullies, that's what they were. A bunch of bullies. But I made that girl cry. I know, but it was terrible. I felt horrible. Every year I watched the show, I feel horrible for them. For everybody. Here's my question. Yes, we can like I agree with you. The way that's like they treated Sarah was horrible. I was really upset watching it. I did not like it. No. But didn't so many people say that about our season of Big Brother? And didn't we have a side too? Yeah, no, a hundred percent. So, like how much of it is real and how much of it is not, you know, I don't know.

[32:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, it's hard to say, but when the next day, you know, Sarah had come down and they were expressing their feelings. I really feel that it was like the little plans, like Victoria that took it to that bullying level.

[32:20] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I agree. I think the girls were valid with what they were saying it, but when it's in a group setting like that, it comes off very attacky.

[32:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. And you know, when this girl is really, you know, Sarah wasn't getting defensive, she wasn't being like you she was being very sweet, very sincere. She was apologizing and crying and clearly upset. My thing is is that you see that this girl is like super vulnerable right now. You know, she and she's struggling, like she's hysterical crying. Right. You see that her mental health like isn't all there at this point. Like, I don't know. I that's why I really appreciate what Katie did, and I was surprised that there weren't more Katie's.

[33:06] Tommy Bracco: Well, yes, I agree with you. Yes, you know, by going up and speaking to her one on one, and in my story, you know what I mean? I know, but production like was Katie's is perfect. That was my story. I hear that. But again, production I mean.

[33:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: What that Katie's perfect?

[33:24] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, Katie's perfect. I agree with that. I do. Like, even the way she told her off, I thought was perfect too.

[33:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, everyone. Everyone's I understand, but let me tell you why I'm upset. The way she handled every minute of the moment from when Sarah came and interrupted until Sarah walked out the door was perfect.

[33:42] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Textbook perfect. She shouldn't have done another thing different. She said how she felt, she was clear, she wasn't mean, she wasn't attacking. She heard her side. She stuck up for herself. And when she came down and said to the girls, like what she said to the girls was perfect. Like, you know, that, yeah, I guess she shouldn't have been here, but what went on last night like was not okay and should not continue and go on further. Like she really was perfect. She handled it amazing.

[34:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know. She really did. But I again, like, honestly, I c I couldn't. As much as I was drawn into this episode for the drama, there was a part of me that was so frustrated watching because you couldn't stop the production.

[34:29] Tommy Bracco: And why is Sarah's hotel room so gorgeous? When the rest of them have normal rooms. Why is she sitting in a gorgeous hotel room with a living room? Why? Like, how did that happen? How did that happen? Why do they all have double beds and roommates and she has a b uh fireplace? Honestly, yeah, you know what? I'm giving them too much credit because I completely and fully understand that Victoria is a producer plot, but so why wouldn't I believe that everything else are producer plots?

[34:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know. It like it was But you know what? It you that's usually the first half of the season every year is just these little things that go on, like for the you know, show.

[35:11] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, a hundred percent for our entertainment.

[35:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Well, you guys are saying that, but my ghost rider told me there were two beds in that room also, so there were two beds, but did they all I'm sorry, do they all have a grand, gorgeous, like that is an amazing floor ceiling um hotel room? No way. No way. That's another one. I do feel the one thing I don't think the one thing I don't think is that Katie was sent by the producers. I think Katie won like whether she asked them or not, like you can tell she's a genuine person.

[35:46] Tommy Bracco: She wants to be very true.

[35:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because she started saying, I lost my father.

[35:51] Tommy Bracco: No, it was so good.

[35:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my god. And you know what? Everything really does happen for a reason. Like, I don't think Sarah actually wanted to go home, but I think like at the end of the day, she did need to go home. Like to be there with her dad and like get out of that environment. And clearly in the first place, she wasn't in a stable mindset by being so insecure after one one on one on one date and him going on one group date.

[36:16] Tommy Bracco: Yep. You know what I mean? Like she needed to get out of that environment. So I'm happy that she's home with she went home with her family. I you know it was shitty how the situation unfolded, but the results were what needed to be, I think.

[36:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: I can't help but wonder. I gotta f I'm sure there's gotta be like a podcast where one of the bullying girls, Serena, Anna, um MJ, and uh Victoria.

[36:44] Tommy Bracco: Victoria, yeah.

[36:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: I always woke up. One of them, I need to hear one of their sides of the story because I just go back to Big Brother when like we were all called bullies and we were not going to be able to do that. Victoria take out of that equation because she's not a real person. But yeah, the other girls, I I think it's just I think it's just maturity and in the moment. I think that they probably obviously regret how they acted.

[37:09] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. I know somebody who has the famous family.

[37:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Kit.

[37:14] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, she wrote an who who was she?

[37:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: She wrote an apology. My mother is a famous uh clothing designer.

[37:21] Tommy Bracco: Oh, she wrote the policy.

[37:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: She wrote an apology. Um I guess she went back when she watches it, I guess it's like she sees what she did.

[37:31] Tommy Bracco: That's it. It was terrible.

[37:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: It really was. Kid apologizes to Sarah. Um cause calls drama the outcome of a lack of communication.

[37:44] Tommy Bracco: I could see that.

[37:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, interesting. I could see it. She wrote, I believe what unfolded last night was an outcome of a lack of communication. I had no idea what was going on with Sarah's family or in her personal life. Rather than hearing her out, I spoke quickly out of frustration.

[37:59] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[37:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: And that was unacceptable. I know that the time for compassion was in the moment and not in hindsight, but I want to apologize to Sarah and anyone's whose feelings were hurt by my words.

[38:11] Tommy Bracco: Oh, that was nice.

[38:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was perfect.

[38:12] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. So I mean That was perfect.

[38:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. That was that was fine.

[38:17] Tommy Bracco: That's it. You know, you're signing up to be on The Bachelor. Shit's like the shit like this is gonna happen.

[38:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: So all the people that I like are starting to leave. Like I I really like Sarah, and now she's gone.

[38:27] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[38:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm running out of the people I really want to win.

[38:30] Tommy Bracco: They're goodbye was so sad, her and Matt's.

[38:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because he really likes it. I really do see a connection between them. It was weird. I don't know, but I'm still not. I can't even look at his mouth when he's on screen.

[38:41] Tommy Bracco: Like if I'm about first off, when he kisses all the girls, then he has all the white powder around his lips.

[38:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean it's kind of on his nose.

[38:50] Tommy Bracco: Listen, this I don't know what it's kind of gross.

[38:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: And my hair is very thin up top, too.

[38:56] Tommy Bracco: I just I'm not a fan.

[38:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel bad, but his face is very long, not a fan.

[39:00] Tommy Bracco: Um wait a second. I can't talk about thinning hair, so wait, Claire and Dale uh broke up broke up.

[39:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[39:07] Tommy Bracco: Was it you?

[39:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Which is very weird because she was just posting with him.

[39:11] Tommy Bracco: No, I know, but it wasn't you that said when she mentioned babies, he looked like he was panicking.

[39:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, yeah.

[39:16] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[39:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Of course. E everything about her freaked him the fuck out.

[39:22] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[39:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: She had to get out of there.

[39:23] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. She's a psychopath.

[39:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. She's way too much, and that's it.

[39:28] Tommy Bracco: And wait, so reality Steve was cracking me up because he um posted, so somebody emailed him and she wrote, Will you now admit that Claire and Dale was a setup? Will you now admit Dale is a fame whore? Hate to say it, but I told you so. You went to bat for these fools.

[39:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: You are the fool left standing to reality Steve.

[39:49] Tommy Bracco: This is an email. I expect an apology in writing, admitting your errors. Can't believe somebody who has blogged for how many years fell for Claire and Dale and had the audacity to come after us, who legitimately and rightfully so questioned the relationship.

[40:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Now, a lot of people did bat for them, like like reality Steve.

[40:08] Tommy Bracco: Right. I mean, I I felt that I saw clear as day since day one that they were not going to last, that it was actually a joke of a relationship, that they didn't know each other. Dale was just thrown in a situation, and how do you say no?

[40:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[40:23] Tommy Bracco: When the bachelorette who you're supposed to be fighting for wants you and you want to right away. How do you say no? You can't.

[40:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[40:31] Tommy Bracco: I don't blame him. And I I mean, you know, I am a girl's girls, and I hate to like sit here and say like uh it's all Claire, but I mean, she's a fucking psycho.

[40:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: She is, she really is.

[40:43] Tommy Bracco: I I still think she's beautiful, so I hate when you say shit like that.

[40:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's so weird.

[40:51] Tommy Bracco: Anyway. We're watching the challenge. He goes, Wow, these girls are all really beautiful.

[40:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Ew.

[40:57] Tommy Bracco: Like the word beautiful really is a synonym for attractive.

[41:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think they're hot.

[41:02] Tommy Bracco: Like that's gross.

[41:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, that is so hard.

[41:05] Tommy Bracco: But really grosses me out because, like, when John says that about a girl, I'm like, oh, so you want to fuck her, like you want to sleep with her.

[41:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: But like, so why do I not apply that for Uncle Phil?

[41:15] Tommy Bracco: It should be applied.

[41:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, that means you'd want to like this, like, when you find a woman attractive, that means you'd want to sleep with them.

[41:22] Tommy Bracco: So, what does that mean for you?

[41:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: You can find somebody attractive and not want to go to bed with them.

[41:27] Tommy Bracco: That's ridiculous.

[41:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, he says, go to bed.

[41:30] Tommy Bracco: That is very cute.

[41:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was very cute.

[41:37] Tommy Bracco: Okay. So when John calls a girl hot, I shouldn't just assume that he wants to be a good one.

[41:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, because you're acting like a psycho when you do that.

[41:44] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[41:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Uh huh. Facts.

[41:46] Tommy Bracco: Facts.

[41:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're acting like a psycho.

[41:51] Tommy Bracco: Oh man. Oh my god, remember his crazy scale?

[41:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, that's what I was reading about posting, by the way.

[41:57] Tommy Bracco: Stop.

[41:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's okay. We don't need to post that crazy scale.

[42:00] Tommy Bracco: My idea is to just keep getting shot down.

[42:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[42:03] Tommy Bracco: My idea is keep getting shot down. Name one that's a the hot crazy scale.

[42:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: People ask me.

[42:10] Tommy Bracco: And he says it's so serious.

[42:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, as if that's something that should ever be shared.

[42:14] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, no, that can't be. If you haven't listened to a past episode, Uncle Phil thinks that there's a scale that you need to be at least.

[42:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: That you need to be at least above a five.

[42:25] Tommy Bracco: No, every girl every girl is above a five crazy.

[42:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Above a four.

[42:30] Tommy Bracco: One is under four crazy.

[42:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, he knows it.

[42:32] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Every girl's above a four crazy. And then it's how much crazy can you deal with if she's hot?

[42:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[42:41] Tommy Bracco: And it was a very funny skid. The guy looks like an FBI guy.

[42:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: People ask for it, and then you just never posted.

[42:47] Tommy Bracco: Like you ignore the case.

[42:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: You ignore the listeners.

[42:50] Tommy Bracco: And all right.

[42:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, not one listener wants that video.

[42:50] Tommy Bracco: There were two people that asked for it that I remember.

[42:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: And we didn't send it.

[42:57] Tommy Bracco: We didn't post it.

[42:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I don't know how to do it.

[42:59] Tommy Bracco: Oh, that would do it.

[43:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: I would say I'm a god.

[43:01] Tommy Bracco: I would say I'm an eight five.

[43:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: An eight hot a five crazy.

[43:09] Tommy Bracco: Well, when you start saying things like that to him, you you move up your crazy level.

[43:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, no.

[43:14] Tommy Bracco: I think I'm very like reasonably crazy.

[43:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think I'm crazy about the things that I should be crazy about and nothing more.

[43:20] Tommy Bracco: No, no.

[43:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: George said the girl's attractive, and you start yelling at him.

[43:25] Tommy Bracco: That's not normal.

[43:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, that's like medium crazy.

[43:28] Tommy Bracco: No, it's not. That's upper crazy.

[43:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Listen, I talk to women all day long in my profession. There are that shit fucking.

[43:37] Tommy Bracco: Crazy people, yeah.

[43:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: And there are a lot of them. And like it's very common to be crazy, and I'm nowhere near that.

[43:43] Tommy Bracco: Okay.

[43:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: So Jell's not crazy.

[43:46] Tommy Bracco: I'm not crazy.

[43:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Just a little bit.

[43:48] Tommy Bracco: Medium crazy.

[43:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm a five.

[43:49] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[43:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm not a zero.

[43:51] Tommy Bracco: I would maybe say a six.

[43:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[43:54] Tommy Bracco: That's fair.

[43:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, they think that's fair.

[43:56] Tommy Bracco: That's fair.

[43:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: But I think like six is fun.

[43:58] Tommy Bracco: Like six is a five.

[43:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: That is a fun zone.

[44:00] Tommy Bracco: If everyone's above a five.

[44:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Ew.

[44:05] Tommy Bracco: Don't tell me I'm in the fun zone.

[44:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Bomb it.

[44:11] Tommy Bracco: You know what? Bomb it. People they're not gonna post it, so just look it up on YouTube.

[44:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Jamie? You want to talk about that like level of crazy and like how there's a lot of girls?

[44:20] Tommy Bracco: Jamie's a fucking ten.

[44:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Jamie is a ten crazy.

[44:24] Tommy Bracco: Victoria, she's like a two.

[44:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[44:28] Tommy Bracco: Like she's not crazy at all.

[44:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: With a guy.

[44:30] Tommy Bracco: No, no, hold on. Victoria's like a sneaky crazy.

[44:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Victoria, yeah, sneaky crazy.

[44:35] Tommy Bracco: I don't think so.

[44:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think I know your heart, and I I think you're very like more with our men.

[44:40] Tommy Bracco: She's a fucking ten.

[44:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's a ten.

[44:43] Tommy Bracco: What do I do?

[44:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, crazy.

[44:48] Tommy Bracco: I think you're crazy.

[44:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Special zone by yourself.

[44:51] Tommy Bracco: Wait how.

[44:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: I I don't know.

[44:54] Tommy Bracco: I don't know.

[44:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Listen, I don't know.

[44:57] Tommy Bracco: I don't know about D.

[44:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but I don't know about D.

[45:00] Tommy Bracco: You were with the guy that I know was a little nuts.

[45:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, that's a different situation.

[45:04] Tommy Bracco: Alright, let's move on.

[45:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, but I'm saying when you're dating someone.

[45:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: When you're dating someone, I feel like I feel like like I don't have John's location.

[45:16] Tommy Bracco: I don't need to know his passwords.

[45:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like I you're also like that.

[45:20] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[45:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[45:21] Phil Bracco: All right.

[45:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm not a ten.

[45:28] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah.

[45:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, yeah.

[45:34] Phil Bracco: Oh my gosh.

[45:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Thomas, what are you?

[45:37] Tommy Bracco: You're like honestly, no joke.

[45:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: Seven.

[45:40] Tommy Bracco: He's a nine.

[45:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: I was gonna say you're like a one.

[45:43] Tommy Bracco: Oh, thanks.

[45:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[45:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: I was really gonna say that you're like the he's actually so opposite day.

[45:51] Tommy Bracco: So you you guys know how I say he's in disagreeing mode.

[45:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's so opposite day that he's negative crazy.

[45:58] Tommy Bracco: He's like a negative ten crazy.

[46:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like he needs to be a neutral zero, and he's not.

[46:03] Phil Bracco: He's in the negative.

[46:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Joey is crazy.

[46:06] Phil Bracco: Yeah, Joey's Joey's like me.

[46:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: I would say, what did we say?

[46:09] Phil Bracco: I mean he's maybe a he's like a six.

[46:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, he's a six, like me, same level.

[46:16] Phil Bracco: Sometimes we fight.

[46:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Don't tell me about this.

[46:21] Tommy Bracco: I'm gonna call Joey.

[46:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Let's call Joey.

[46:23] Phil Bracco: Oh, I can say Joey can do no wrong to me.

[46:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, he picked you up.

[46:28] Phil Bracco: You're crazy about like TikToks, but not you.

[46:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, well, we're just talking about relationships.

[46:37] Phil Bracco: Hey.

[46:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, so you're on the podcast right now. Say hi.

[46:40] Joey: Hi.

[46:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, so Joey.

[46:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Tell me if you agree.

[46:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel like you'll get what I'm about to say.

[46:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Alright.

[46:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: So we were talking about like the hot crazy scale again.

[46:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I was saying that like me and you are like probably sixes.

[46:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like we're hot, like we're eights and nines, but we're probably like six on the crazy scale.

[47:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, I really said five, but Thomas said six.

[47:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: We're like right medium average what we should be, correct?

[47:08] Joey: Yeah, I would agree.

[47:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: I said that's like a negative zero like negative like five.

[47:14] Joey: Oh my god!

[47:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Joe!

[47:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, literally, you get me.

[47:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: I said he's so disagreeing and he's so opposite, but it actually comes off fucking crazy because he should be at a zero.

[47:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like the idea would be to be at a neutral zero, but he's at a negative ten.

[47:32] Joey: Right, yeah.

[47:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, he's he there's like he's opposite, but not it doesn't mean it in a like a good way.

[47:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's just under crazy, he needs to be more crazy.

[47:43] Joey: Yeah.

[47:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: But don't you think that that's crazy?

[47:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: The way he acts is crazy.

[47:48] Joey: Yes.

[47:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: So he is crazy.

[47:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: So even though he's in the negatives, he's actually crazy.

[47:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because I think he is a little crazy deep down.

[47:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because it comes through sometimes.

[47:57] Joey: He's a hidden crazy.

[47:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, Joey knows.

[48:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: He saw my crazy this past week.

[48:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: But so yeah, he i he's in disagreeing mode 24-7, so he's a negative 10, but that is crazy.

[48:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Joey, did you see my crazy side this past week?

[48:12] Joey: Yes.

[48:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow.

[48:15] Joey: Yeah.

[48:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: But he will never show that in public.

[48:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: What did we fight about again?

[48:20] Joey: Um, not watching me not wanting to watch Big Brother, which wasn't true.

[48:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh yeah.

[48:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: We bought it.

[48:27] Joey: You acted crazy about that.

[48:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: I did.

[48:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: I hinted to him.

[48:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was it was very irrational.

[48:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: I will say.

[48:35] Tommy Bracco: Now hang up on him.

[48:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: We're done.

[48:38] Tommy Bracco: Hang up on him.

[48:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow.

[48:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[48:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: So interesting.

[48:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right.

[48:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: I opened up to him.

[48:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: I said, Joey, we're at the point where I want to watch Big Brother with you.

[48:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like it'd be so fun.

[48:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like you could see my friends.

[48:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, would you like that?

[48:55] Joey: Yeah.

[48:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then he kept like, he literally wanted no part of it.

[49:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I was like, I'm so offended.

[49:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, I wanted to share this part of my life with you.

[49:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: This show that I love that I was on that my friends were on that you know, and you want nothing to do with it.

[49:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: So we got into a big fight.

[49:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: I said, I'm not gonna beg you to watch it forget about it.

[49:13] Phil Bracco: I was wondering why you started watching different seasons too.

[49:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, then that was the other thing.

[49:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: He was so bored.

[49:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: He was so bored that I said, maybe we'll watch a more exciting season because his best friend was gonna watch season 20.

[49:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: So I was like, let's watch uh season 20 with Ariana.

[49:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: If you're watching with your best friend, then maybe you'll like it better.

[49:32] Joey: And did he?

[49:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, then he was like, I'm watching too many seasons at once.

[49:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Do you want to tell the full story of how I was half asleep the whole time?

[49:41] Joey: Oh yeah, because he he was sleeping during when we were watching it.

[49:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why was I sleeping?

[49:46] Joey: He had COVID.

[49:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: He had COVID.

[49:48] Joey: Yeah, I was sick.

[49:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm sorry.

[49:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: You can't watch TV when you have COVID.

[49:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's that's tired.

[49:53] Phil Bracco: I was aching.

[49:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wait, that's actually really crazy though, that you got mad that he didn't want to watch your season.

[49:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: I would, if John was on a reality show before we was started dating, I would if somebody brought up the name of the reality show, I would punch them in the face.

[50:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: I would want nothing to do with it.

[50:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: I would never want to see one millisecond.

[50:12] Phil Bracco: So how?

[50:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: What'd you say?

[50:17] Phil Bracco: I have to walk like a fine line with that, because I don't want it to be like crazy like how

[50:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, no.

[50:22] Phil Bracco: He did actually more than he even had to.

[50:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Mm-hmm.

[50:25] Phil Bracco: I told you Joey could do no wrong.

[50:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're this is what I mean by you're negative ten.

[50:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, you're a fucking psycho.

[50:32] Phil Bracco: Who would want to watch a guy that they're newly dating when they were single on a reality show?

[50:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: Who would want to do that?

[50:38] Phil Bracco: Who?

[50:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel like it's like different.

[50:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's like a game show.

[50:41] Phil Bracco: No, yes, see, this is why he's negative ten because there's something wrong with him.

[50:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right, thanks, Shawi.

[50:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: You really helped us uh, you know, plead my case.

[50:49] Tommy Bracco: All right.

[50:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right, love you.

[50:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Don't care.

[50:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway, it's time to curious though.

[50:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: What do you think I am?

[50:55] Joey: You're a lot a lot a lot.

[50:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: A seven.

[50:58] Joey: A seven.

[50:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: A seven.

[51:00] Joey: You're not an eight or a nine, but you're a seven.

[51:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Except for you.

[51:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'll accept a seven.

[51:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: And when I was younger, I was hot, but now I'm not as much.

[51:11] Phil Bracco: Oh, we didn't want to talk about it.

[51:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: I can't.

[51:20] Phil Bracco: Look at Franny.

[51:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Just sitting there.

[51:23] Phil Bracco: All right.

[51:24] Phil Bracco: Are we done?

[51:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway, yeah, guys.

[51:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: So how so uh according to your chart in Annabelle doesn't exist because you better not say that she was under a four.

[51:35] Phil Bracco: No, no, listen.

[51:36] Phil Bracco: That's not my chart.

[51:38] Phil Bracco: It's the chart that you agreed with it.

[51:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: So what would you say in Annabelle's

[51:40] Phil Bracco: You guys, you guys don't see her crazy side.

[51:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's that's the only thing I could say.

[51:47] Phil Bracco: What crazy side?

[51:49] Phil Bracco: She does not have a crazy side.

[51:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, she's perfect.

[51:50] Phil Bracco: She's perfect.

[51:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's you know, she's perfect.

[51:51] Phil Bracco: So is she perfect or does she have a crazy side?

[51:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: So she's uh, you know.

[51:58] Phil Bracco: Well, every girl has a crazy side.

[52:00] Phil Bracco: She is perfect, but you know.

[52:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Tell us some crazy things she does.

[52:01] Phil Bracco: I want to know.

[52:02] Phil Bracco: What does she do this?

[52:04] Phil Bracco: It's not things like on dating.

[52:05] Phil Bracco: Like, that's the difference.

[52:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's referring to stuff that's not really crazy, though.

[52:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like when she says, like, when she wants to like do a girl's trip, like to Miami.

[52:15] Phil Bracco: That's the opposite of crazy.

[52:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right, that's what I'm saying.

[52:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's why his analogy doesn't really.

[52:21] Phil Bracco: I don't believe in separate vacations.

[52:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[52:23] Phil Bracco: Crazy.

[52:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Crazy!

[52:25] Phil Bracco: Exhibit A.

[52:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Crazy.

[52:27] Phil Bracco: You just went up to an eight.

[52:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, yeah, you did.

[52:30] Phil Bracco: But that statement alone.

[52:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, no, no.

[52:32] Phil Bracco: Wait, what?

[52:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: How do you wear it again?

[52:33] Phil Bracco: I don't know.

[52:34] Phil Bracco: I don't do set.

[52:35] Phil Bracco: I don't believe in separate vacations.

[52:36] Phil Bracco: I was brought up.

[52:37] Phil Bracco: You don't go on separate vacations.

[52:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: Then I watched it with women go on separate vacations.

[52:42] Phil Bracco: He travels all the time for work.

[52:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[52:44] Phil Bracco: He can go on separate vacations, but she's not allowed.

[52:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, you're a fucking 10, actually.

[52:48] Phil Bracco: You and Jamie are right up there with each other.

[52:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I actually I actually offered for her to come with me on my business trips.

[52:57] Phil Bracco: She turned says no.

[52:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: So you still go.

[53:01] Phil Bracco: But I have to go.

[53:02] Phil Bracco: It's my job.

[53:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[53:05] Phil Bracco: Whatever.

[53:05] Phil Bracco: I'm not going away on vacation, hanging out with friends.

[53:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: I am hanging out with friends.

[53:09] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I was just gonna say you totally are hanging out.

[53:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I know the bar every night.

[53:15] Phil Bracco: All right.

[53:16] Phil Bracco: Whatever.

[53:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway, ten out of ten.

[53:18] Phil Bracco: Ten out of ten.

[53:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: You think he's ten lux?

[53:21] Phil Bracco: Ten uh no, ten out of ten.

[53:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Crazy.

[53:23] Phil Bracco: Crazy.

[53:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[53:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, we were on this for a long time, but I had fun with it because I really feel that everything we said was very accurate.

[53:33] Phil Bracco: All right, anyone um in the big brother house that you want to rate cra hot crazy?

[53:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Uh sis, what do you think sis is?

[53:42] Phil Bracco: Oh my god, sis is so perfect.

[53:44] Phil Bracco: She's not crazy at all.

[53:46] Phil Bracco: She's a level hot ten, but she has to have some craziness.

[53:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my god, level hot, 45.

[53:52] Phil Bracco: She's so smoking hot.

[53:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right, but craziness, she has to have some.

[53:55] Phil Bracco: She can't be that good looking and have no crazy.

[53:58] Phil Bracco: She's probably like a six.

[53:59] Phil Bracco: Like crazy.

[54:00] Phil Bracco: Like normal, like average, yeah.

[54:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, that is the average.

[54:02] Phil Bracco: I would say an average crazy for a girl is six.

[54:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: I would say, I don't think that she's she's really.

[54:07] Phil Bracco: What about Hollywood crazy?

[54:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Holly's pretty nuts, I think.

[54:11] Phil Bracco: Holly's a little nuts and also ten.

[54:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'd say um Christy, crazy.

[54:19] Phil Bracco: We all know that.

[54:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Stepmom.

[54:23] Phil Bracco: Oh, you're a stepmom.

[54:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Once upon a time.

[54:26] Phil Bracco: Once upon a time.

[54:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: Ugh, another life.

[54:29] Phil Bracco: Anyway.

[54:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway.

[54:31] Phil Bracco: All right, if you want to serrate you, um, just give us like a little story of what you think your most crazy moment is, and we'll tell you what level you are.

[54:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love that.

[54:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: We're experts.

[54:41] Phil Bracco: So good.

[54:41] Phil Bracco: We're experts at this point.

[54:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, cool guys.

[54:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Thanks for a great episode.

[54:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: This was super fun.

[54:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Uh send in your questions to RealtalkPodcast.com, and we will see you next week.

[54:52] Tommy Bracco: Love you all.

[54:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Actually, really do send in crazy stories though, because I love to hear stories like that.

[54:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: So send in your story.

[54:59] Phil Bracco: Yeah, like I love when Nelly wrote into us and just told us about his crazy date.

[55:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, send us in your craziest relationship moment, like where you were like, okay, I'm in that job.

[55:08] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah.

[55:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: You were in that job.

[55:10] Phil Bracco: Yeah, that's what I wanted.

[55:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my gosh, guys, yes.

[55:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's what I'm saying.

[55:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's what I was saying.

[55:14] Phil Bracco: I actually have one.

[55:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[55:15] Phil Bracco: What?

[55:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: I actually have one.

[55:16] Phil Bracco: What is this?

[55:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my god, tell us right now.

[55:19] Phil Bracco: Tell me right now.

[55:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right, so when I was dating Anne Annabelle, you're God.

[55:24] Phil Bracco: Um there.

[55:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: You know what?

[55:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm not gonna tell the story.

[55:29] Phil Bracco: No, you have to.

[55:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: There is zero chance I'm gonna let you get away with that, so don't even put up a long fight because it's gonna be annoying.

[55:36] Phil Bracco: So go.

[55:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well.

[55:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Just tell it as it is.

[55:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Don't filter it.

[55:45] Phil Bracco: Go.

[55:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Nah, you know what?

[55:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: It does it's not.

[55:48] Phil Bracco: No, go.

[55:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[55:49] Phil Bracco: Go.

[55:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, so let us be the judge of that.

[55:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Go.

[55:52] Phil Bracco: All right.

[55:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway, so he's can't say a certain part.

[55:59] Phil Bracco: Was she talking to a guy?

[56:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: He is nervous to say a certain part because he's worried that somebody's away.

[56:07] Phil Bracco: Here's the deal.

[56:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: I used to be very jealous.

[56:09] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[56:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: She was talking to somebody.

[56:11] Phil Bracco: No, somebody made a comment about our shoes, and I was like, he's not looking at your shoes.

[56:15] Phil Bracco: And I started acting a little bit nuts.

[56:17] Phil Bracco: I punched a hole in the mall wall.

[56:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: The mall wall?

[56:21] Phil Bracco: Isn't the mall wall concrete?

[56:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[56:25] Phil Bracco: Tile?

[56:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, no.

[56:26] Phil Bracco: It was it was a she wall.

[56:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: So wait a second.

[56:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: S a guy said you have beautiful shoes.

[56:33] Phil Bracco: He was nice shoes.

[56:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I'm like, you think he's really looking at your shoes?

[56:36] Phil Bracco: Why?

[56:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's a little bit more.

[56:37] Phil Bracco: Because I would say something.

[56:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then she's grabbed my arm saying, Stop.

[56:41] Phil Bracco: Is the guy, you know?

[56:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because you're acting like an animal.

[56:48] Phil Bracco: But do you really think he's looking at her shoes?

[56:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, but that couldn't have been a conversation when you got home at normal tones.

[56:54] Phil Bracco: What?

[56:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, what did it matter?

[56:56] Phil Bracco: You she was with you.

[56:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: What did it matter?

[57:00] Phil Bracco: What did it matter?

[57:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: She was with you.

[57:01] Phil Bracco: I find guys disrespectful like that.

[57:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like when you're with a woman and the guy makes a comment to them, it's really not respectful.

[57:10] Phil Bracco: Wow.

[57:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[57:12] Phil Bracco: Okay, so seriously, do you think he was talking about it?

[57:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: I want to know how you got from saying that it he's not looking at your shoes to the fist going in the wall.

[57:23] Phil Bracco: Because I got frustrated because I said, Are you kidding me?

[57:25] Phil Bracco: And then she's grabbed me saying, Stop, and the guy kept walking, he ignored me.

[57:29] Phil Bracco: And then I wanted to continue, but she now she's yelling at me, you can't act like that.

[57:33] Phil Bracco: And then I ended up getting mad and I punched a hole in the wall in the mall.

[57:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: So like, did you find a wall or were you near and had access to it?

[57:43] Phil Bracco: Because when I'm in the mall, I don't see many walls around me.

[57:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: There's clothes racks and open areas.

[57:49] Phil Bracco: Wait, where'd you find this wall?

[57:51] Phil Bracco: I mean, it was there.

[57:52] Phil Bracco: I don't know what to say.

[57:53] Phil Bracco: It was in a it was another.

[57:54] Phil Bracco: Like where you guys were talking and you just weren't.

[57:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: A legit question.

[57:57] Phil Bracco: It's a great question.

[57:58] Phil Bracco: There are no walls in the mall.

[58:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Literally, it's all like the store.

[58:04] Phil Bracco: You don't think that things have changed since when I was young and you you guys?

[58:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: So the mall used to have walls.

[58:10] Phil Bracco: But they did they used to have They have to have walls.

[58:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: What's wrong with you?

[58:14] Phil Bracco: Why do you think they're standing up?

[58:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, it's the storefronts.

[58:18] Phil Bracco: It's glass.

[58:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: They have sections that have walls.

[58:21] Phil Bracco: Very few.

[58:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: You would need to find one.

[58:25] Phil Bracco: Like maybe by the bathrooms.

[58:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: By the way, there are walls there also.

[58:30] Phil Bracco: Look, can we just say uh prayers for Tommy?

[58:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, yeah, guys.

[58:33] Phil Bracco: Uh while we're one of our friends, uh, he's a very, very, very close family friend of ours, is in the hospital in very critical condition.

[58:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's being moved.

[58:44] Phil Bracco: Um, you know, went in because of uh pneumonia and covid.

[58:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: And you know, is on a ventilator, has been in an induced coma for this is day thirteen.

[58:57] Phil Bracco: But you know, we're hoping for a speedy recovery.

[58:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: We have a lot of ton of prayers going on, so he's being moved tomorrow by helicopter.

[59:05] Phil Bracco: He'll be in a different hospital, and hopefully there he can get all the care he needs.

[59:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yep.

[59:09] Phil Bracco: Um, but if you guys could just say a prayer for Tommy Dance, uh he is a great guy.

[59:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: He loves his family so much.

[59:16] Phil Bracco: He does not have a lot of things.

[59:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: He really is the best guy ever.

[59:19] Phil Bracco: Everybody who meets him like falls in love with him instantly.

[59:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's the best guy ever.

[59:23] Phil Bracco: Yeah, so if if you guys wouldn't mind just saying a prayer for Tommy Dance at some point during your day, that it's greatly appreciated.

[59:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: And the prayers do work.

[59:32] Phil Bracco: Yep.

[59:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right, guys, we will see you next week, Wednesday.

[59:35] Phil Bracco: We love you all so much.

[59:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's it's been real.