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[0:07] Tommy Bracco: Hi guys, it's Tommy.

[0:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: And Anjelica.

[0:10] Phil Bracco: Migamo Ephelippo.

[0:12] Tommy Bracco: And you're listening to Real Tawk.

[0:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my god, I got so used to saying "and you're listening too" while you were gone.

[0:19] Phil Bracco: Oh, yeah.

[0:20] Tommy Bracco: Shit.

[0:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: I forgot just you do it.

[0:23] Tommy Bracco: No, I love that you did it. I'll let you do it every time.

[0:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, I forgot he used to do it in a different language.

[0:29] Phil Bracco: Yes.

[0:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: You remember we got Japanese that one time?

[0:32] Phil Bracco: Mm-hmm.

[0:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, that's right. Aw, cute.

[0:36] Tommy Bracco: Um, it's been a bit. First of all, wanna apologize to the listeners that it's been sporadic the episodes. We're back, we're here, and we're recording on a regular schedule.

[0:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Are you too? Thomas was away working. Are you done with going away and working?

[0:49] Tommy Bracco: Yes. Anyway, um, that was a crazy episode. The last few weeks have been insane. I'm obsessed with this season. I'm obsessed.

[0:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, I gotta, I'm gonna stick up for myself here because I said this a couple weeks ago.

[1:03] Tommy Bracco: I agree.

[1:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I said, this has got potential to be a really good thing, and it did happen.

[1:08] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, yeah.

[1:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but nobody didn't believe you.

[1:12] Tommy Bracco: No, no, no. Go back and roll the tapes. You listen to the podcast on repeat. When you listen to it, you will hear that I didn't disagree with you.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: I didn't, I didn't.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I did.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: You did?

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: You said you think it's gonna just be a terrible scene.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: I said I don't know what potential you're seeing. I don't know why you're even saying no world in which it's gonna get it too.

[5:32] Tommy Bracco: Right, okay. I remember thinking that you were right though. So, um, do we want to go as far back as like the Taylor and Nicole fight? Or no?

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think there's a lot of things to talk about. That is maybe we start there and move our way forward because that made me physically ill and I was hysterical crying.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Yeah, you are. You wrote to me and you said that.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Just watching her like shaking and like apologizing, like when she shouldn't even be apologizing, and just the way Daniel and Nicole were attacking her, which is so sad because like if any human in this situation that Taylor's in, it must be like the worst feeling in the world. Because when you're in there, that is your whole entire world.

[5:32] Tommy Bracco: There is no outside world. So if your whole world is against you, which is how Taylor feels, right? Felt, you know. In that moment, she felt like the entire world was against her because the house was her entire world.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. That would, that is what made it so much harder, like so much more difficult to watch.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Yeah. That is a true statement. That happened. All that is true. But, and I'm gonna give you a, uh, I know you're not gonna like this, but I'm gonna give you a devil's advocate.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Let's do it an alternate reality, an alternate universe, okay?

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: I can't imagine where you're going with this.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Same exact thing is going on, the same fight, but instead of Taylor, it's somebody that nobody likes. People are gonna say Daniel stuck up for Nicole. In Daniel's mind, Taylor got rid of, uh, Paloma, made her go crazy, and she left the house. I'm not saying he's right, I'm saying in his mind.

[5:32] Tommy Bracco: But this isn't an alternate universe.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: So my point, yeah, it doesn't need to be an alternate universe, to your point, Jell. But to your point, you're saying essentially Daniel really believes what he's fighting for.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's not fighting to be evil.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: You guys just want to defend Daniel because he's a Real Tawk listener.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm saying that, yes. Like now I know that's why I be him, but that's not how you're talking about.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: I wouldn't have defended him because I'm not a good one. I'm not, I'm not sure if I enjoy Daniel Edward. He really believes that Taylor was the reason Paloma went crazy, and now he watches what he thinks is happening to Nicole the same way.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: So okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So Daniel thinks Taylor's the reason Paloma went crazy because Taylor did what to Paloma. What did Daniel see Taylor do to him?

[5:32] Phil Bracco: You're missing the whole thing. People, he was the head of head of the household. He was upstairs. People were coming to him telling him all these things that Taylor was doing.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: What did he see with his own eyes?

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Nothing because nothing.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Nothing because nothing happened.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Right.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: So I don't get, I don't care. When you're in this house, if you're solely basing your entire game off of what other people who you cannot trust are telling you, then you are dumb.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: That's a fact.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: I completely agree with that.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: So he has, I'm sorry, I don't think he has a case. My point is in his mind, he's defending Nicole, which if people didn't like it. And I'm saying he shouldn't have in his mind defending Nicole because he didn't see Taylor do anything.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: But Nicole came in and they did tell him what she did. Now Amira said, "Oh, I think she misunderstood," right? He is what it is. But the fact is that is what he was told, and he was sticking up for somebody else.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: I don't agree on that.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: So he's having a mental problem.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: She was having a, she was trying.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Who, Nicole?

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Nicole was trying at the time, and that's his ride or die, he's number one. So he was sticking up for her.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. That's what he really believes.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Okay, all right, fine. You want to stick up for your friend? There's a way to say it and do it.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: And how he said it and did it was not it.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: I do agree with that.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Okay, so fine. You want to defend her? You can do it in a whole different way and still be defending her, but being a kind human.

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[5:31] Phil Bracco: Like, I just, I don't know. I didn't, I didn't like it at all.

[5:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I totally hear that. I think that the, you know, like what's going on with Taylor in the house, what I will, especially what went on with her in the beginning of the season, when 16 strangers move into a house that have nothing in common. It is the psychology behind Big Brother is that they are all desperately trying to find a common enemy.

[5:58] Tommy Bracco: That is what everyone is doing right off the bat. They're trying to grasp at straws to find someone that they can all dislike together.

[6:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: And this season, that was Taylor.

[6:10] Phil Bracco: And that it was not rightfully so.

[6:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was not rightfully so.

[6:14] Phil Bracco: Right.

[6:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then people ran away with ran with it and like just kept piling on to it, and then it'd be turned into a whole nother thing. I think what she, I think what happened was she was purposefully strategically trying to hang out with the guys a little more, and the girls were gonna be able to do it.

[6:30] Phil Bracco: The girls were jealous that they didn't do it first because they were gonna do it right away.

[6:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're right, right. And once you get that person, everybody jumps on, because as long as it's not after you, you're not after me.

[6:41] Phil Bracco: Right.

[6:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right? And that's the idea.

[6:43] Phil Bracco: Idea.

[6:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's the idea.

[6:45] Phil Bracco: That's the RDU.

[6:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: That is the idea with all these other things, people are making up. No one knows for sure what's going on in that house. But that is a fact, and I heard it, Cody Calfari.

[6:56] Phil Bracco: That's what I'm saying. Like, maybe I'm like a shitty friend. Like, I would not defend anyone but myself in that house. Like, I would not involve myself in other people's business and drama in that house because you really can't.

[7:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, you can't take any.

[7:11] Phil Bracco: No, I wouldn't. I would really only defend myself. I wouldn't get involved. I'd have, I don't mean I wouldn't have alliances.

[7:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: You would do it.

[7:18] Phil Bracco: But I wouldn't vocally defend it.

[7:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: But everybody was saying I disagree.

[7:23] Phil Bracco: Oh, no.

[7:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, okay, okay, I take it back. I wouldn't vocally defend the, what's the word for it? The person who's not the underdog.

[7:35] Phil Bracco: I would defend situations where I feel like somebody being around.

[7:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but the favorite.

[7:39] Phil Bracco: Daniel felt like she would, like Nicole was the underdog in that situation. So he felt like he was defending the underdog.

[7:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I just don't get it.

[7:47] Phil Bracco: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm not saying that I think that Daniel was right in what he was doing. I agree with you. It was really too much. Why are you getting involved?

[7:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, I don't know.

[7:56] Phil Bracco: But Jell, you would get involved too.

[7:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know you like a book. You would get involved.

[8:01] Phil Bracco: And here's the other thing. Everybody in America. The game doesn't mean anything to you. You have to like stick your neck out and build real relationships and trust those relationships. Last thing, everybody in America wanted somebody to do that for Taylor. And no one did it for Taylor. And they were all criticizing these people for having me. Now Daniel sticks up for somebody else. And now I'm not sure.

[8:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Taylor did it for herself tonight in her, uh, speech. That was vicious.

[8:25] Phil Bracco: That was awesome.

[8:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was amazing.

[8:27] Phil Bracco: It was amazing.

[8:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, you're really stupid.

[8:30] Phil Bracco: It was amazing.

[8:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, she said you would call me.

[8:33] Phil Bracco: You look so dumb right now.

[8:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[8:36] Phil Bracco: So good.

[8:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was. That speech was honestly, Nicole's speech was great too. I really loved it.

[8:41] Phil Bracco: She spoke great.

[8:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm dumb dying. I'm actually wet.

[8:47] Phil Bracco: Just so you guys can't.

[8:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's like how I did Vince's today.

[8:52] Phil Bracco: Yeah. We had a palette and the air conditioner went out.

[8:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, we're dying of sweat, everyone.

[8:59] Phil Bracco: But nothing was gonna stop us from recording tonight.

[9:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Not tonight.

[9:03] Tommy Bracco: Um, anywho, so now Amir is a whole big mess. Amir is evicted, Nicole's evicted.

[9:10] Phil Bracco: Those are our two picks.

[9:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know.

[9:12] Tommy Bracco: You're picking my pick.

[9:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: But wait, who was our, who was our picks after the first episode, though?

[9:19] Phil Bracco: I didn't change.

[9:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: I didn't change either. I still kept him.

[9:23] Phil Bracco: I don't remember, but you know, Thomas, what he had like five or six years.

[9:27] Tommy Bracco: No, no, no, no. I just like Demira the most.

[9:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I and I still really like her. I think honestly, like, I think she just played too hard too fast.

[9:38] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[9:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: I got some. I think that Kyle's mom is in on the joke.

[9:43] Phil Bracco: And she's not actually mad.

[9:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think Kyle's mom is an insane lunatic.

[9:50] Phil Bracco: No way.

[9:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: You have to be a lunatic madman to go on social media and talk about your son and his like what's what he's doing on TV with like another girl and like be vocal about your opinion on it.

[10:05] Phil Bracco: Right.

[10:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like you need to be not with it.

[10:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: I totally agree with that. And I think that she's not really that mad at him. I think that it's a good one. That's what I'm saying. I think it's like a weird like ploy for attention, and it's like freaking me out like you're a mom.

[10:21] Phil Bracco: That's the impression that I get too. It's a big thing. Because he's big on TikTok and she's very involved in his TikTok. It's answering questions of like what she wants to ask or so when she gets out and brought up the kissing scene.

[10:34] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, she like they're both big on TikTok. She's very much a part. Like the way that all I think about me and him do stuff together.

[10:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, Kyle and his mom do stuff together.

[10:44] Phil Bracco: Okay. That would freak me out if Uncle Phil went on and was making his own TikTok trends about you.

[10:49] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Freak me out. Number one. Number two, I didn't do that. All I think about any time anything's being referred to him in the romance aspect is I just think about the 60 TikTok videos he has talking about how much he loves Brazilian women.

[11:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like he has an unhealthy obsession with Brazilian women.

[11:08] Phil Bracco: And as indie, nothing's happening.

[11:09] Tommy Bracco: No, but he's not into indie. He's into Alyssa.

[11:12] Phil Bracco: Why did you shut the windows?

[11:13] Tommy Bracco: Why it got hot in here again?

[11:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, because it's so hot here, guys.

[11:18] Phil Bracco: It doesn't matter that it's muggy. We're dying.

[11:21] Tommy Bracco: Here's my overall thoughts of the season. I love the season. I love the gameplay, the back and forth, the blind sides, the split house, the editing is amazing.

[11:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: The Amira blind side was insane.

[11:35] Tommy Bracco: It was insanity. Insane. Even the Pooch blind side was great. It only kept getting better and better.

[11:40] Phil Bracco: If you literally really look at each eviction, Pooch, Amira.

[11:45] Tommy Bracco: Well, no, that's not true. That's not true. Amira was the first one. Amira's was the best, then Pooch was the second, and then this one was the third. Because they found out.

[11:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: I thought this was so crazy.

[11:53] Tommy Bracco: They all knew. So crazy. It was nine to one.

[11:55] Phil Bracco: I know, but it was so exciting to watch if you were following the and watching the feed.

[11:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, last week was way more exciting.

[12:01] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[12:01] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I actually had no idea. She was reading me. When they got the notice.

[12:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: I just was so strong.

[12:10] Tommy Bracco: Joey, what did I say? My theory about Thomas is correct.

[12:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why?

[12:14] Tommy Bracco: About why you're a flip-flopper.

[12:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why?

[12:17] Tommy Bracco: Because you are so quick to vocalize an opinion that you haven't actually sat and thought about how you really feel about. So you just say things before you actually consider how you actually feel about them, and that's why you flip-flop because then once it's really spoken about, you realize that you actually feel a different way.

[12:36] Phil Bracco: Well, I really am the kind of person everybody knows this about me. I always play devil's advocate. So if I say my thought, my opinion before playing devil's advocate and looking at the other side, then I can be swayed once I hear the other side.

[12:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Does that make sense?

[12:50] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[12:50] Tommy Bracco: And my opinion really is always on the other side.

[12:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: And no, but it's you honestly, I probably got it from you, because you always play devil's advocate too.

[12:58] Phil Bracco: He loves a lot of times.

[13:00] Tommy Bracco: My devil's advocate looks different than yours, though.

[13:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: You will fully argue for the other side.

[13:04] Tommy Bracco: I will say I could see the other side.

[13:06] Phil Bracco: And he doesn't even care who's wrong or who's right. He just does the other side.

[13:09] Tommy Bracco: Other side. Yep. Other side.

[13:11] Phil Bracco: You're on one side, I'm going on the other.

[13:13] Tommy Bracco: That's right. 100%.

[13:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's actually what that is. That's like disloyal. Like he's not like.

[13:21] Phil Bracco: He's not loyal to his thoughts.

[13:23] Tommy Bracco: I'm loyal.

[13:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: You I know, I know you want to paint this picture that you're this loyalist.

[13:27] Phil Bracco: I'm a loyal guy.

[13:28] Tommy Bracco: But the second anybody there's sides, you are so quick to throw one side under the bus and go the popular side.

[13:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: You are actually the opposite of popular.

[13:39] Phil Bracco: That's what we're saying.

[13:39] Tommy Bracco: You're so quick to throw the popular side.

[13:41] Phil Bracco: You throw the popular side aside.

[13:44] Tommy Bracco: Under the bus.

[13:44] Phil Bracco: Here's a funny ran over. I gotta tell you quick story. The Mets right now we're talking about making a trade.

[13:50] Tommy Bracco: And oh no, he's turning this into the

[13:52] Phil Bracco: No, no, no. I'm not even gonna say it.

[13:56] Tommy Bracco: Okay, go.

[13:57] Phil Bracco: So them there was a guy, one of the great plays, he's 23 years old, and he the Mets would think about getting him. And I would argue with the people that wanted him, we shouldn't trade for him.

[14:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: And with the people who didn't want him, I would argue with the thing.

[14:10] Phil Bracco: It's so hard for me to follow sports.

[14:11] Tommy Bracco: I have no idea what he's saying.

[14:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think I got it actually, because I was with you, and I was like, really focused, Thomas.

[14:17] Tommy Bracco: You could do this. Like really pay attention.

[14:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, that I was talking too much in my own head.

[14:21] Tommy Bracco: No, I to try and force myself to find out.

[14:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, I know. I was like, you can do this.

[14:26] Tommy Bracco: Okay, so basically, he argues both sides.

[14:29] Phil Bracco: I would say if basically, let's break it down into teams of uh in terms of big brother.

[14:34] Tommy Bracco: So he got it. If you love Taylor and you don't love Taylor, to you, he would argue that he doesn't love Taylor.

[14:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: To you, he would argue that he does love Taylor.

[14:44] Tommy Bracco: Does that make sense?

[14:45] Phil Bracco: So he's he's just up, he doesn't have an opinion.

[14:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, yeah, he's just not loyal.

[14:49] Phil Bracco: He's just not loyal. Exactly.

[14:50] Tommy Bracco: There's a term for me, it's called a contrarian. I like to be on the different than everybody wants once.

[14:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like But isn't the need and wanting to be different so bad kind of do the opposite.

[15:04] Phil Bracco: No, I just think I like to argue.

[15:06] Tommy Bracco: Oh, okay.

[15:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: That makes sense.

[15:08] Tommy Bracco: That does make sense.

[15:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, fair.

[15:10] Tommy Bracco: Um anyway.

[15:12] Phil Bracco: Anyway.

[15:13] Tommy Bracco: So one thing I gotta tell you, Daniel and Nicole, they did a good job.

[15:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: They guessed everybody.

[15:18] Tommy Bracco: Get those notes from him. I want to read them.

[15:19] Phil Bracco: Everybody did a good job over any like except Kyle.

[15:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: And they told Kyle everybody.

[15:25] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, exactly. He went back, and then that's that was the downpour.

[15:28] Phil Bracco: What was the notes you had for that?

[15:29] Tommy Bracco: Read it.

[15:30] Phil Bracco: Uh Daniel guesses the leftovers to Kyle but leaves him out.

[15:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love him.

[15:37] Phil Bracco: I love his notes.

[15:38] Tommy Bracco: I love his notes.

[15:40] Phil Bracco: Kyle's mom's not happy with Alyssa and Kyle.

[15:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: What else you got on there?

[15:46] Phil Bracco: Read your note, paper.

[15:47] Tommy Bracco: And Alyssa was so funny with Joseph.

[15:49] Phil Bracco: You wrote so funny, you didn't write so funny.

[15:51] Tommy Bracco: So funny.

[15:52] Phil Bracco: No, he wrote so funny.

[15:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Joseph opened the name of the episode's talk so funny.

[16:01] Tommy Bracco: Let's look so funny.

[16:04] Phil Bracco: I love it.

[16:05] Tommy Bracco: I love that.

[16:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Taylor's speech is savage.

[16:09] Phil Bracco: Yeah, it was.

[16:09] Tommy Bracco: It was amazing. Then I started writing who was voting, and then I thought it would be close, but once it's a big thing.

[16:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Here's my question. Do we actually see a world where Taylor could win?

[16:18] Tommy Bracco: Yes.

[16:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think so too, actually. That's my pick.

[16:21] Phil Bracco: I know.

[16:22] Tommy Bracco: You know what I will say though?

[16:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[16:25] Tommy Bracco: Except for Daniel. I do wish that Taylor joined the boys' team tonight instead of the girls' team.

[16:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Hear me out.

[16:33] Tommy Bracco: Because if Taylor would have joined the boys, they're way bigger targets than her. And they're also going to protect her.

[16:40] Phil Bracco: So that was the team to join.

[16:42] Tommy Bracco: I don't know. Now, as we move closer into the next two weeks, the leftovers are gonna start to attack each other prematurely.

[16:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: I guarantee it.

[16:50] Tommy Bracco: And because I will say, I don't think that this season of people, I don't think that they're gonna be as loyal to each other.

[16:59] Phil Bracco: We've seen a billion alliances form and fall apart already, and we're only a few weeks into the season.

[17:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Pose pack, uh, girls, girls, but there's been so many other ones as well.

[17:10] Tommy Bracco: Like they're all falling apart. Nobody's loyal.

[17:12] Phil Bracco: So I think that the leftovers are gonna start to take shots at each other.

[17:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: And when that happens, if Taylor is now with the two girls, those two girls are not as big of a target.

[17:23] Tommy Bracco: Girls.

[17:25] Phil Bracco: But think about it. Now if you have Indy, Alyssa, and Taylor on the block, you're voting out Taylor at this point because she's been through so much and she's still there.

[17:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's proven herself, so she's the biggest threat.

[17:37] Tommy Bracco: I don't think we know yet how it's gonna go. I just think that the leftovers are gonna take a shot at each other, and if we find the girls on the block, then Taylor might find herself packing, which I hope doesn't happen.

[17:49] Phil Bracco: No, well, think about it though.

[17:52] Tommy Bracco: They voted and said we're gonna keep the nomes the same.

[17:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: They told Kyle.

[17:57] Tommy Bracco: He wasn't in on the discussion.

[17:59] Phil Bracco: Kyle.

[18:00] Tommy Bracco: Why'd you say Kyle?

[18:01] Phil Bracco: My grandma used to say Kyle.

[18:03] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, why'd you say Kyle?

[18:05] Phil Bracco: I don't know.

[18:06] Tommy Bracco: But any idea?

[18:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[18:09] Phil Bracco: They didn't discuss it with him.

[18:10] Tommy Bracco: They just came in and said, we're gonna leave him the same and we're gonna vote out Alyssa.

[18:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Even though you're getting close with her.

[18:16] Tommy Bracco: Right. And I don't think he liked that.

[18:18] Phil Bracco: And realized he's on the bottom.

[18:21] Tommy Bracco: Right. So it worked out because Daniel said we're using it and he can get away, but it's this week.

[18:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: But he already knows I got issues.

[18:30] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[18:31] Phil Bracco: So Kyle, I think, is gonna wind up siding with Alyssa moving forward.

[18:35] Tommy Bracco: He's gonna leave the leftovers.

[18:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's just I just think that the leftovers are gonna be done in two weeks.

[18:37] Phil Bracco: Two weeks?

[18:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: What do you think?

[18:44] Tommy Bracco: I think that sounds accurate.

[18:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[18:46] Phil Bracco: I'm no I normally, yeah.

[18:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, right.

[18:48] Tommy Bracco: It's a possibility two weeks. Two weeks the leftovers are out, and when that happens, you want to set yourself up in the best place.

[18:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I do think that Taylor should have picked a different team tonight for that.

[19:00] Tommy Bracco: But I'm rooting for her. I really hope that she, you know.

[19:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think she's a great competitor too.

[19:06] Tommy Bracco: So if anything, she could probably just win.

[19:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[19:09] Tommy Bracco: Um who does Okay, here's my question.

[19:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: I this is how I feel.

[19:15] Tommy Bracco: Tell me if you agree.

[19:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: I really love the season, but I haven't found myself loving anyone yet.

[19:22] Tommy Bracco: Like, I don't love any of them as individuals so much yet.

[19:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Whereas past seasons, I love certain players.

[19:29] Tommy Bracco: I'm obsessed with them, and I don't necessarily love the gameplay.

[19:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Aside from Daniel, I feel neutral about everybody in the house.

[19:36] Tommy Bracco: I would say I like Taylor.

[19:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yep.

[19:39] Tommy Bracco: And one of the guys.

[19:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: I like Taylor, Alyssa, Michael.

[19:46] Tommy Bracco: No, I don't like Alyssa.

[19:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: I like Taylor and Michael slightly more than everyone else, but I'm not obsessed with that.

[19:52] Tommy Bracco: Right. That's exactly how I feel.

[19:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel like neutral vibes.

[19:56] Tommy Bracco: Yep, neutral vibes.

[19:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like them. They're fine.

[19:58] Tommy Bracco: They're sweet.

[19:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: But I'm not obsessed with anybody, but I am obsessed with the season.

[20:03] Tommy Bracco: Yes.

[20:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: So that is very interesting to me.

[20:05] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[20:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I think it's it was it's good now for Big Brother to have a season that's like this.

[20:11] Tommy Bracco: But I do think that the other side of the house has to win next week.

[20:15] Tommy Bracco: H-O-H, or it can get a lot of people.

[20:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, you mean the girls, Daniel?

[20:20] Tommy Bracco: No, I would consider Alyssa and Indy floaters now.

[20:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Daniel is by himself, the other side of the house.

[20:25] Tommy Bracco: I will say I'm slowly becoming obsessed with Jasmine.

[20:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, I literally remember when I just said I don't hate anybody.

[20:31] Tommy Bracco: I hate Jasmine.

[20:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I am obsessed with her.

[20:34] Tommy Bracco: She's so funny.

[20:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: She is giving so many funny one-liners.

[20:38] Phil Bracco: She's not funny.

[20:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Blind.

[20:39] Phil Bracco: She's so crazy.

[20:41] Tommy Bracco: No, production literally tells her exactly what to say.

[20:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Put the accent on.

[20:45] Phil Bracco: It doesn't matter.

[20:46] Tommy Bracco: Say this line.

[20:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's not just the accent. It's her rolling into every room with blankets upon blankets.

[20:51] Phil Bracco: No patience, you should not be in the game.

[20:53] Tommy Bracco: You should not be in the game. If you are this physically hurt, how are you able to stay in the game?

[20:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm not obsessed with her as a player. I'm obsessed with her because she just makes me laugh.

[21:01] Tommy Bracco: I think she's going to go.

[21:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because she's a joke.

[21:06] Phil Bracco: Exactly.

[21:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. By the way, she looked like the ghost of Christmas Past.

[21:11] Tommy Bracco: She looked like the ghost of Christmas Past in the episode today.

[21:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: She was pale white as a ghost.

[21:15] Phil Bracco: She had blankets upon blankets.

[21:17] Tommy Bracco: She looked like she had a cane, a foot boot.

[21:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: She looked like the evil witch that turns into the goddess in the beginning of Beauty and the Beast.

[21:27] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what she looked like tonight in the episode.

[21:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's not my laugh. She's so funny.

[21:35] Tommy Bracco: I don't know how to clear that out. Um, by the way, do you notice that production took a scooter away?

[21:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[21:41] Phil Bracco: They probably said you're the doctor cleared you to not use it.

[21:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, and she was like complaining about it.

[21:45] Tommy Bracco: Oh well, how about did you buy the muffins?

[21:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: If anybody had, we have to post that on the story.

[21:52] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I have no patience. She is viciously going around the house trying to figure out who ate a half of her muffin while she's holding a Ziploc bag of still another muffin and a half.

[22:01] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Why are you complaining?

[22:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, she's still. And I'm sorry, did you say someone ate the muffin?

[22:06] Phil Bracco: But wait a second. Did she go in and like request these special muffins that only she can eat? I'm confused.

[22:10] Tommy Bracco: No, it okay. Wait. You know, to play devil's advocate.

[22:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Uh, she was on slop and she saved those muffins for when she got off of slop and then someone ate half of a muffin.

[22:15] Tommy Bracco: Okay, but she still has another whole muffin and a half.

[22:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm sorry. I'm not saying I disagree. Aren't you embarrassed? Like, I would, I okay, yeah. That would bother me. I hate when anything goes wrong with my food if somebody eats my food.

[22:32] Phil Bracco: It would bother me, but I wouldn't like carry on like that.

[22:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: Only if it was all gone. Like if I had two muffins and somebody ate the full two muffins while I was in the shower, you bogged the fuck out.

[22:42] Tommy Bracco: Right. But like you still have a whole other muffin and a half.

[22:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. I do agree with that. If I was in the house, I would eat the muffins on purpose.

[22:50] Phil Bracco: Like Turner.

[22:51] Tommy Bracco: You know what I'm thinking about too as we're watching this? I can't wait to see who from this cast winds up going on like The Challenge.

[22:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like Joseph is gonna be on The Challenge.

[23:01] Tommy Bracco: I can't wait to talk about this.

[23:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why?

[23:04] Tommy Bracco: The Challenge USA.

[23:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, The Challenge is the same.

[23:06] Tommy Bracco: It is one of the best shows I've ever seen.

[23:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, in my life. It's amazing.

[23:11] Tommy Bracco: It's nuts.

[23:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Honestly, did we talk about this? Like, it blows the other Challenge out of the water right now.

[23:19] Tommy Bracco: Because I feel like, I don't know, maybe it's like the fresh faces.

[23:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, yes.

[23:25] Tommy Bracco: Something about like this brand new cast. I realize we're just essentially with the other Challenge, we're essentially just watching the same show every year over and over again.

[23:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, what are we not?

[23:37] Tommy Bracco: Slightly different outcome, I think.

[23:39] Phil Bracco: They need to, whenever their next season is, they need to need to need to add more new fresh faces because it just is not working anymore.

[23:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: I completely agree with you.

[23:50] Tommy Bracco: Because this is so good, and why they're doing this such similar challenges. Same type of drama, but it's just new people, so it's so refreshing.

[23:59] Phil Bracco: It's a different show.

[24:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes.

[24:01] Tommy Bracco: A hundred percent. What I believe is on the MTV Challenge, they come up with an idea of a fake reason to fight.

[24:09] Phil Bracco: Why do you add an R at the end of idea? What's up with the R? Tell us about it?

[24:13] Tommy Bracco: I don't know. But so I think that they come in with an I, uh, a plan. Anyway, anyway, so I'm surprised you didn't go, okay. Uh, like logo. This year we're gonna have uh bananas is gonna make up with Wes, and they're gonna team up.

[24:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think that's all playing.

[24:32] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I know, but it's just like whatever. Uh anyway. I like The Challenge is insane.

[24:36] Tommy Bracco: I like that anyway. I like the regular Challenge. This Challenge is insane.

[24:39] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Holy shit.

[24:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because what's gonna go on now with Terrence and what's her name?

[24:46] Tommy Bracco: What's her name? Who just got out?

[24:48] Phil Bracco: Tyson?

[24:49] Tommy Bracco: Tyson.

[24:50] Phil Bracco: Tyson and who just got Sarah.

[24:53] Tommy Bracco: Sarah.

[24:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, did you see how you're gonna be able to do that? She was like, she like ate a chicken wing.

[24:58] Phil Bracco: Yeah, she ate an imaginary wing.

[25:00] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. So and meanwhile.

[25:02] Phil Bracco: She's sick.

[25:03] Tommy Bracco: She's an animal.

[25:04] Phil Bracco: But Tyson's good. He's like, I'm gonna have to put up with some crap here.

[25:08] Tommy Bracco: Tyson is just everything you want in a cutthroat player.

[25:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. And if you think about it, he's in a, and who was his partner?

[25:16] Phil Bracco: Cash.

[25:17] Tommy Bracco: Cash.

[25:18] Phil Bracco: Cash.

[25:18] Tommy Bracco: Okay. She was kicking her little feet. So cute.

[25:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: But they were also the only team that opened the wrong bin and had to go back and they still won.

[25:26] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Like he is an animal.

[25:30] Tommy Bracco: He's an animal. Derek X almost had it. He was very good.

[25:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: Mm-hmm.

[25:35] Phil Bracco: Um, Angela's great.

[25:38] Tommy Bracco: I'm sure I love her.

[25:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Love her too.

[25:40] Phil Bracco: Loves her.

[25:41] Tommy Bracco: She's perfect. She looks gorgeous.

[25:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yep. She's such a badass player, doesn't give a fuck about anybody.

[25:49] Tommy Bracco: I love it. Um, yeah, and the way that Sarah was acting was really, really crazy.

[25:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: And what they came up with was genius.

[25:59] Tommy Bracco: Well, and that was the thing. Sarah was really upset with James during the whole swimming thing.

[26:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean, he's a little weird with I'm a cat.

[26:07] Tommy Bracco: But then he came up with that.

[26:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but that's fine. But then he came up with that I'm a cat. And boom. It worked big time.

[26:14] Tommy Bracco: Yep. So that was awesome.

[26:16] Phil Bracco: Ozza went home. How do you feel about that?

[26:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, I feel bad for her, but I think that she's happy, you know.

[26:23] Tommy Bracco: She from what I saw that she put out. I tweeted her.

[26:25] Phil Bracco: Would you like? Oh no alias account?

[26:30] Tommy Bracco: His alias Phil Bracco 1C.

[26:32] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I said you're a wonderful person and I hated for you to lose.

[26:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, that was so cute.

[26:41] Tommy Bracco: She was so nice on the show.

[26:43] Phil Bracco: She's so really good. Instead of the like, he always has to put a negative spin on something. Instead of like I was really rooting for you to win, he said I hated that you had to lose.

[26:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's all the negative.

[26:55] Phil Bracco: Like, right. Like he can't. Like, not like I've seen that you had to lose.

[27:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, like no, that's hilarious if he wrote had to lose, that is hilarious because it's basically saying you did a shit job.

[27:07] Tommy Bracco: Like you just had to lose. Big Brother's got some issues going on here. They've lost the last three weeks. Tiffany, Xavier, and Azza.

[27:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[27:16] Tommy Bracco: And their numbers have dwindled. And I think I, while I understand Alyssa wanting to get, um, her lack of better word, revenge, right? That's what she called it. It's dumb this early in the season.

[27:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't think that Alyssa did anything wrong for backstabbing X, but I do think it was a really dumb move.

[27:39] Tommy Bracco: I don't think it made sense. Anyway, time of Junior is purple.

[27:43] Phil Bracco: I'm so hot. I'm so hot, I don't even know what I'm saying at this point.

[27:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Do we have any questions?

[27:49] Phil Bracco: We do have a few questions, but I wanted you to ask a question. Remember, you said.

[27:51] Tommy Bracco: Yes. My question was is when you have a competition before you do a veto comp, oh, we didn't talk about the most dumbest veto competition to ever exist in the history of Big Brother.

[28:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway, when you have a competition, so your little friends read the rules, and then what? Like they pause with the cameras.

[28:14] Tommy Bracco: So funny that you're asking this because we've never spoken about this. And this a person and like one of the listeners wrote that same question in the case.

[28:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like I want to know, like did this episode the instructions? That's what I'm asking.

[28:27] Tommy Bracco: Yes. So literally, let me read the question now. It's that's so weird. Jess Grillio wrote this one. Hi fam, Tommy, during comps, do they go over the directions more? What if you have questions?

[28:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes.

[28:37] Tommy Bracco: So yeah, they do they explain it on the loudspeaker the way that they do, and then they pause, and then the games master comes on the loudspeaker.

[28:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's like a person that we like talk to or that is like bigger.

[28:49] Tommy Bracco: And goes in depth.

[28:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: And goes in depth about the questions, the rules.

[28:53] Tommy Bracco: I was so confused about when they were like showing that cartoon, I was like, How is this gonna work? Why are they doing this?

[29:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, so, and then I understood, like, oh, so they took them out of the tent, played them a video that the other players didn't see, and then they gotta go back and explain it.

[29:11] Tommy Bracco: Like, I just thought it was such a dumb concept because, like, obviously, they're not tripping, obviously they're not drugging these Big Brother players. So, like, what's the point?

[29:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. I don't know, I didn't get it. I thought it was very good.

[29:23] Tommy Bracco: I agree with you. I think that they're just trying to come up with different competitions this season, and I think that that one didn't work.

[29:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's it. Yeah, you know. Um that's crazy that that was a question.

[29:34] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, that's so crazy. Daisy Torres asked, Do y'all have cleaning people in the house this season's cast is dirty?

[29:41] Phil Bracco: Uh, we do not have cleaning people, and every house gets dirty every single season, filthy, and usually by midway through the season, the house gets ants.

[29:52] Tommy Bracco: Do we pre-record DRs before going into the house?

[29:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: They didn't do that on my season, but I think they do do that in the season.

[29:59] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, they did that on this season, the last one as well.

[30:03] Phil Bracco: One, two, three. It's been real.