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[0:10] Tommy Bracco: It's been so long that we lost the song, so yeah, we have no intro music.

[0:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's mine, all right. So just hold it back.

[0:23] Phil Bracco: Hi.

[0:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: So what's happened? Uncle Phil's acting like it's Christmas. He's so excited, which is so sweet, and Annabelle said he's never been nicer. Oh, love that for her.

[0:41] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, we got to do more podcasts for her.

[0:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, for her sake. Yeah, we do.

[0:47] Tommy Bracco: Jail had a baby. Yeah, it's been since we've done an episode, I think so. And then we have Roman on one.

[0:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: But yeah.

[0:56] Tommy Bracco: Yes, I moved. We moved to Marlboro, New Jersey.

[1:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Loving it.

[1:03] Tommy Bracco: Yep.

[1:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Finally, after how many years of looking for a house?

[1:03] Tommy Bracco: Three years.

[1:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Three years. Yeah, it happens finally.

[1:09] Phil Bracco: I'm happy for you, but said to me why I'm literally here, aren't I?

[1:09] Tommy Bracco: I know, but I actually have been in Staten Island every day since.

[1:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's crazy because I've literally been in Staten Island every day since the day I moved.

[1:27] Tommy Bracco: Every time I drive past your old house, I'm like depressed.

[1:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I was actually driving by. They said, let me go visit Joe.

[1:33] Tommy Bracco: And that's not true.

[1:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, it was true.

[1:42] Tommy Bracco: Seriously.

[1:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Hey guys, I felt so bad that I started listening to old episodes of Real Tawk.

[1:42] Tommy Bracco: Oh, that's why you started listening.

[1:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Ah, I can't.

[1:52] Tommy Bracco: Look at his notebook.

[1:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right, what's going on with you, Thomas? I really miss our podcast for sure.

[2:01] Tommy Bracco: We updated my life and neither one of you.

[2:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're trying to have a baby.

[2:05] Tommy Bracco: We're trying to have... which one is me?

[2:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're the bottom one.

[2:12] Tommy Bracco: Bottom one? Why? Okay.

[2:17] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah. Well, I always talk loud, so I'm confused why it's so low. We got to work on the levels.

[2:27] Tommy Bracco: I mean, listen, I'm good for Wednesdays. Wednesdays I work until 8, so I can do it after.

[2:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, we don't really have a plan, guys. I know that we said we're like back, but we just wanted to do an episode tonight.

[2:41] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, no, if we're back, we're gonna try. This is a soft stage. It's a soft...

[2:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Use the people. It's hard. It's a hard time.

[2:48] Phil Bracco: Yes. Well, what's a baby? And what are you doing, Jersey?

[2:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm also busy. Me and Joey are trying to have a baby, too.

[2:57] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, we're going through the fertility process. Thomas has like 18 flights in the month of September and October.

[2:57] Phil Bracco: It's true. It's pretty crazy.

[3:04] Tommy Bracco: I'm retiring at the end of the year.

[3:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: And we'll have time in the winter. Like once the holidays are over, we're all gonna have a lot of time.

[3:13] Phil Bracco: We are not going anywhere. We just needed to take a little break.

[3:13] Tommy Bracco: I know we're usually here for Big Brother, but yeah, I mean we're still all watching. We just watched the episode.

[3:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, I'm all for doing lives because we can all go on our own Instagram.

[3:23] Tommy Bracco: All right, we can talk about this.

[3:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Before we get started, I wanted to say one thing.

[3:31] Tommy Bracco: No, I was coming out.

[3:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, yeah, because I don't want to forget it for later after we get into Big Brother, but you know how you love the waitress?

[3:43] Tommy Bracco: Waitress the musical.

[3:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I do love it. I hated the music in the car.

[3:43] Tommy Bracco: Oh my god, the music's unbelievable.

[3:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: He was playing it constantly and I was like, come on.

[3:53] Tommy Bracco: Well, I watched a movie. It says don't say good luck, and basically it's a high school putting together the waitress.

[4:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: But the story behind it is really emotional.

[4:04] Tommy Bracco: But I heard the music for the first time and listened to the words. Phenomenal.

[4:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, waitress is great. I was... I got teary-eyed. Waitress is absolutely incredible. It's one of my favorite musicals.

[4:16] Tommy Bracco: It's amazing because you think that it's about... it's like a love story and then the twist at the end, it's a mother-daughter story all along. Like, I think it's so beautiful and the music is so good.

[4:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: The music's unbelievable. Sara Bareilles wrote the music for it. She's actually writing music for a new show, so everyone's really...

[4:34] Tommy Bracco: Wow, so the actress who sings all the waitress songs, her name is Sonny Sadler. I don't know if you ever heard of it.

[4:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, it's not.

[4:41] Tommy Bracco: No, in the movie.

[4:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, okay.

[4:45] Tommy Bracco: The movie Waitress.

[4:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, don't say good luck.

[4:50] Tommy Bracco: Oh, okay. Okay, the show.

[4:55] Phil Bracco: Uncle Phil's watching a show about high schoolers from Yellowjackets. The heavier one has the affair. Yeah, she's the mom in the show.

[5:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, it's a really good movie. See how many seconds into this are we already? He's already commenting on women's bodies.

[5:11] Tommy Bracco: Like, why do you have to describe her that way?

[5:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yellowjackets, I would have known who you meant. Okay, anyway, I actually think she kind of looks like mommy.

[5:27] Phil Bracco: But...

[5:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: She just looks like mommy, her face.

[5:32] Phil Bracco: Well, she looks like a mother.

[5:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, she looks like Annabelle.

[5:39] Phil Bracco: Like...

[5:41] Tommy Bracco: Did it die?

[5:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, he wasn't.

[5:47] Phil Bracco: It's crazy. It's fine. It's somewhere on the computer, but we're being lazy.

[5:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: So the other thing is, you know, 'cause Phil was editing the new family thing we did and he might have deleted some stuff.

[5:59] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, that's fine. Um, so Thomas is trying to have a baby.

[6:02] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[6:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, you're trying to build a house, so we've just been... it's just been a little crazy, but we're here. We love you guys. I mean, that's not new news.

[6:17] Phil Bracco: You're trying to build a house. You bought your driveway five years ago.

[6:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: So that's not new news.

[6:25] Tommy Bracco: It's true, but we're getting somewhere now.

[6:28] Phil Bracco: That's good. Well, I gotta tell you, it's a really, really, really funny story for him.

[6:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: What do you mean? Who's it for?

[6:35] Tommy Bracco: Well, Phil's gonna go there. Okay, but it's a really funny story.

[6:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: So, you know, every time we try to get somewhere, mommy, she shuts down, right?

[6:45] Tommy Bracco: So now the architect comes and he's like, well, what's your plan? Like how much money? She goes, we'll make it work, right? That's how she talks.

[6:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: So now I ask the question. The guys are ready to go when I go, the house looks really nice what he drew.

[7:00] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, right. And I go, how many square feet is that?

[7:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: So he says like, you know, twenty-five hundred or whatever. So I do the calculation on the phone. I go like this. We're gonna make that work. And mommy goes, oh, well, maybe we'll, you know, we'll figure it out when he's done.

[7:12] Tommy Bracco: The guy's puts everything...

[7:19] Phil Bracco: No, no, I can't draw this again.

[7:23] Tommy Bracco: All the guys like over it. The back and forth is crazy because she just shuts down. Now Phil's on sticking up for me, goes, you can't say that. You don't know what you did.

[7:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's like that. He's right. You just told the guy like we could do it and then you're like...

[7:43] Tommy Bracco: When she has something in her head, she just has to get it done the way that she wants and yeah.

[7:47] Phil Bracco: Fire that honestly, I like that.

[7:49] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. All right. Let's go Big Brother.

[7:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So overall, I would just say that I'm enjoying the season, but it's not my favorite, man.

[8:00] Tommy Bracco: My favorite's this season. I know my favorite's this season. I'm obsessed with Melody. I'm obsessed with Mallory. I love Devon's.

[8:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love D even though I want you to go at this point. I can't stand Dog. I love hate. Like I love hating someone.

[8:15] Tommy Bracco: Yeah.

[8:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know. I'm just loving it and I'm absolutely loving it. I love Taylor. I like Lala. I hate Kamu.

[8:25] Tommy Bracco: I just feel like at this stage of the game, I'm way more invested in the players usually than I am this season.

[8:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're not invested in Melody and Mallory?

[8:37] Tommy Bracco: I really like them, but I'm not invested in them.

[8:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think the dynamic is so funny. She's so funny. She's so great.

[8:46] Tommy Bracco: I just think like having the icons in the game, that many of them really threw it off for me. Like I have a hard time like getting to know and getting attached to anybody else.

[8:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's weird.

[9:00] Tommy Bracco: Really? I don't feel that way. I feel like at this stage, I'm usually obsessed with people and I don't feel like that. I feel like D needs to go now. She won Survivor. I don't need her to win Big Brother. I want somebody like not a reality star to win Big Brother, obviously.

[9:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: But I'm liking that they're in it. I feel like it brings a cool dynamic. I love Angela.

[9:22] Tommy Bracco: Mallory, by the way, has Rachel Drach.

[9:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Faces who Rachel Drach?

[9:29] Tommy Bracco: Rachel Fresh. Yeah. Yeah. She makes faces like her. Okay. Um, I love Mallory. I love Devin.

[9:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Mallory or Melody because you just combined them. We'd have that TikTok.

[9:42] Tommy Bracco: How about that TikTok where it was like, it was making fun of Big Brother. It was like every episode of Big Brother and he says something like so harmony song and chorus.

[9:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: But we literally had Lyric and Melody up. Like I was like, oh my god, he's not even being dramatic. Like this is crazy.

[10:00] Tommy Bracco: In that video when that guy goes, hi Julie, you're looking gay tonight.

[10:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: And the comments are like Julie on tonight's episode and it was like covered in rainbows and she's like a fake...

[10:12] Tommy Bracco: Hi, Julie, you're looking gay tonight is so good. It's so good.

[10:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're looking gay tonight. I can't believe Zingbot called me the epsilon.

[10:26] Phil Bracco: No, that video was insane.

[10:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Immediate follow for that guy. Oh my god, so good. So good.

[10:29] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. I also been watching Kelly Wentworth.

[10:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, she's funny as hell too.

[10:36] Tommy Bracco: She is great. I never get into her skits, to be honest with you, though.

[10:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like I really do love her, but I just, I don't know, for some reason I usually skip past them. I'm not, um, I'm not a TikTok skit person.

[10:52] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, like sometimes I'm not in the mood for a skit. I think that's more what it is.

[10:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, although I just praised another skit.

[10:59] Tommy Bracco: I know that was, yeah. No, that was...

[11:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Skits are like very, they almost like look like a production, like a video that we were...

[11:04] Tommy Bracco: You guys talking about?

[11:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's Kelly Wentworth.

[11:13] Tommy Bracco: Kelly Wentworth.

[11:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's great. I really do love her.

[11:17] Tommy Bracco: But she does like, she did one where, you know when you get to be on the show and they film finding the key?

[11:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, and yeah, and she's like, well that doesn't make...

[11:32] Tommy Bracco: Anyway, so I'm loving Big Brother. You're thinking it's fine. I'm loving it too, right here, loving it, loving it, loving it.

[11:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love the characters, even the ones you don't like. I didn't like it up until Lyric went home. When Lyric went home, I was like, oh, I could breathe. Okay, let's watch.

[11:49] Tommy Bracco: No, I couldn't. I can't stand Sir, I'm sorry. Yeah, the baby talk was crazy.

[11:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't like somebody that is purely seeking followers the way she is. That instantly turns me off and I don't connect to that person at all.

[12:01] Tommy Bracco: I agree. So Lyric would do this thing, for anyone that doesn't know, she would post the same exact video a billion times with a different caption written over the video. So that way...

[12:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: We're the same caption.

[12:21] Tommy Bracco: Same video, same caption. Sometimes she would slightly change the wording, but like it was the same video a billion times or she would do a slightly different video.

[12:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Basically, her whole strategy was just to go viral, just to hit the algorithm. And I get it, it's smart, it's savvy, but I don't know, it reads as inauthentic to me a little bit. So, I agree, I was not a huge fan of Lyric. Alright, so I know we were talking about Devin's using the Diamond Power Veto, and I said let's wait for the show. Were we? Before. And I said let's wait for the episode. Yeah, what do you guys think? Good move or bad move? I think Anjelica came around.

[13:05] Tommy Bracco: I did. At first I was like, horrible move, I don't understand. But like, then when I'm really thinking about it, like Deet weirdly isn't winning comps. This is, if he does want to win, this is a very pivotal moment in the game. They are getting at an extremely strong competitor. If they get him out.

[13:23] Phil Bracco: If they get him out. Yeah, that is, the Blockbuster really does throw a possible wrench in this plan.

[13:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, it's really tough. If, come, oh my God, I'm going to be, like, you don't feel so invested, like you're going to be standing in front of the TV tomorrow to see who wins.

[13:37] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I know, I'm canceling all my plans. I had plans to go out, I can't do it. I have to be home for this, this is crazy.

[13:41] Phil Bracco: That's hilarious. I got a fantasy football draft, but I'm going to have the phone on me, like, you know.

[13:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: And now your friends aren't going to make fun of you for that? Like, you're at a fantasy football draft and you have Big Brother on your phone?

[13:52] Tommy Bracco: Imagine I'm going to have earphones in my ear.

[13:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're gonna?

[13:55] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I got to hear the shot.

[13:55] Phil Bracco: You're not answering my question. Are your friends going to make fun of you for that?

[14:03] Tommy Bracco: I'm not going to tell them. I'm going to sit by myself. I got my cousin Gary coming with me to help me do the draft and I'm going to have it on on the side.

[14:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: So you're going to, like, go to an outing with your friends and basically be on your phone with headphones in?

[14:14] Tommy Bracco: While I'm doing my draft, yes.

[14:19] Phil Bracco: Do you guys, like, drink and hang out before or after the draft?

[14:19] Tommy Bracco: Well, I got to drive home, so I don't drink, but.

[14:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: But you just said you're bringing your friend Gary or Garrett.

[14:27] Tommy Bracco: No, Gary. Cousin Gary.

[14:27] Phil Bracco: I don't have a cousin Gary.

[14:27] Tommy Bracco: Yes, you do. He's at the wedding.

[14:32] Phil Bracco: I definitely don't have a cousin Gary.

[14:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's Gary and Teresa.

[14:32] Phil Bracco: I don't know who Gary is. Do you know who Gary is? This is embarrassing.

[14:38] Tommy Bracco: This is embarrassing. Am I really supposed to know, though, who Gary is or is he messing with me?

[14:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think the reason why I know extra is because Gary is my dad's cousin and Teresa's my mom's cousin.

[14:58] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[14:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, so that's pretty crazy. So it's your cousin.

[14:58] Phil Bracco: I don't know your cousin.

[15:04] Tommy Bracco: He's married enough family, Jo.

[15:02] Phil Bracco: Okay, well, whatever. Anyway, so you're bringing him.

[15:11] Tommy Bracco: Yes.

[15:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Can he drive and you drink?

[15:09] Phil Bracco: I mean, why are you trying to get at this? I don't need to drink, because I feel like he's...

[15:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, why do I care? Why do I care? I think it's more funny that he's showing up to this event with his friends and he's going to have his long ass dated headphones with the wire. The wire's going to be tangled and I could see it. He's on his phone. He's shaking. He's trying to do a billion things at once. You can't show up with your friends and do that.

[15:37] Tommy Bracco: Where is this meet?

[15:39] Phil Bracco: My cousin, Bruce and Dina's house.

[15:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. So that's where it's going to be. And how many people are going to be there?

[15:45] Tommy Bracco: Well, there's 10 teams. So I'm bringing somebody, somebody else might bring somebody. I don't know.

[15:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: So you should drink.

[15:56] Tommy Bracco: I don't need to drink at the draft, but okay.

[15:58] Phil Bracco: Well, here's the thing too. Dina and Bruce love Big Brother. So it might be on tomorrow night.

[16:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, I can tell them to put it on the TV.

[16:06] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, a hundred percent.

[16:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Okay. Maybe your friends will get into it.

[16:06] Phil Bracco: Yeah, maybe. That'll be fun. Spread the word, the Big Brother word.

[16:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Speaking of hype for Big Brother, I'm going out to LA for the 1000th episode. I'm very excited. I'm not sure if I'll be in the audience or if we'll just be at a party in the parking lot. I don't really know what's going on, but book the flight today. I'm very excited. Me and Christy are going, so that would be fun.

[16:30] Tommy Bracco: Awesome. That's going to be fun.

[16:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: It will be fun. I bet all just Big Brother alumni will be there.

[16:35] Phil Bracco: Yeah, that'd be cool. I'm excited, grateful to be a part of it. I also saw a post and it could be a joke about Celebrity Big Brother coming back this year. I think it was just a joke.

[16:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh yeah, I saw that post.

[16:52] Phil Bracco: Isn't it interesting?

[16:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[16:54] Phil Bracco: Isn't it interesting that like, I feel like Big Brother, the seasons are split in half. And like, even though your season was so long ago in the social media worlds of Big Brother, like your season is still very relevant, even though it was actually, like, if we actually think about it, it was so long ago.

[17:13] Tommy Bracco: Seven years ago.

[17:14] Phil Bracco: And I feel like it started Tyler Crispin season.

[17:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: A Tyler Crispin season and on, like everyone just sort of stays relevant no matter how long it's been.

[17:23] Tommy Bracco: You're right. You're right.

[17:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: And like prior to that, you don't think 19?

[17:28] Phil Bracco: 19, like Jess and Cody.

[17:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my God, what's going on?

[17:28] Phil Bracco: Yeah, but not really. Like you're not going to see Jess and Cody at the 1000th episode.

[17:34] Tommy Bracco: You're right. You're right. But like you would see Casey and maybe 20 is when they started recruiting people for other shows. Like Casey went on, even though they did for, wait, what about what's going on with Jess?

[17:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I know. That's what I was saying. So crazy.

[17:49] Phil Bracco: So crazy. You know what's going on with Jess?

[17:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: No. She just found out who she thought was her biological dad her whole life isn't her biological dad. That guy who's not her biological dad and she thought was is now dead. And her mom will not give her any of the information on it.

[18:08] Phil Bracco: No way. Her mom won't tell her anything. Her mom said, Nope, sorry, I'm not telling you anything. So don't ask me anything.

[18:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because that was your father.

[18:14] Phil Bracco: Right? No, I don't know. It sounds like her mom's just a bitch. But I don't know.

[18:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: But the comment section is also crazy. Because like, this happens a lot. And like people are like, yeah, the family secrets run so deep. Like our family just doesn't have secrets.

[18:28] Phil Bracco: I know. I don't think our family like and I can't imagine like, we don't have secrets because we're also open. I can't imagine being involved in a family that's not open.

[18:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Are you do you have any family secrets that we don't know about?

[18:43] Phil Bracco: Who me?

[18:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[18:45] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Like, I mean, yes. And he's thinking of how to get out of this.

[18:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I don't know. What family you mean? Either family, my side or your side?

[18:58] Phil Bracco: Yes. So you know about mommy's grandmother?

[18:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know the whole family.

[18:58] Phil Bracco: Yes. So that's what I'm saying. Am I that's why I'm answering. I did it.

[19:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Who's grandma?

[19:10] Phil Bracco: Grandma.

[19:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[19:09] Phil Bracco: Okay, so grandma Annabelle.

[19:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[19:09] Phil Bracco: Who's grandma Annabelle? Whose mother is that?

[19:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Annabelle's father's mother had another whole family and left them and married and then had...

[19:29] Phil Bracco: Yeah, but that's not really a family secret.

[19:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, no, it's nobody knew that.

[19:34] Phil Bracco: Okay, but that's so far back. Like, we don't know.

[19:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, like anything that we would care like juicy.

[19:46] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I have no I have nothing.

[19:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: We're very, we literally talk about him getting a blow job from a slut with a whole pass from your mom.

[19:51] Phil Bracco: No, like, it's new. We have no family secret. Just not that type of family with everything's out in the open, whether if people are not happy and by the way, by the way, that's not, by the way, that's not me.

[20:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: What mommy's family grew up that way.

[20:09] Phil Bracco: You grew up that way with mommy's family.

[20:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: My private.

[20:10] Phil Bracco: Yeah. My family didn't grow up that way.

[20:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: See, so that's what I, my point is, is the comment section. I'm finding out a lot of families hold a lot of deep family secrets. And like, that's just a crazy concept.

[20:25] Phil Bracco: We talked about it already though. Joe, I found out I had two sisters when I was like a teenager.

[20:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[20:31] Phil Bracco: Like that's crazy.

[20:32] Anjelica Vispisiano: That is crazy.

[20:30] Phil Bracco: How did she keep the fact that she was pregnant a secret?

[20:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: I was little, so I wouldn't know. She just looked fat.

[20:36] Phil Bracco: I hate him. I fucking hate him.

[20:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: I literally hate him. I don't like you.

[20:44] Phil Bracco: Like, I don't know. Like I was little.

[20:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Think about it. I was really little.

[20:48] Phil Bracco: I'm not thinking about that.

[20:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[20:51] Phil Bracco: But you don't remember, like, they didn't say like, I was having a baby and then all of the babies aren't coming anymore.

[20:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wait, like your mom going through a depressive episode? Like, was your mom ever depressed?

[21:02] Phil Bracco: Yeah. My mother, father, you know, was like really, we went through this already where the doctor told my father, don't tell her the baby's alive.

[21:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. We know that story.

[21:14] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So that was something I found out as a teenager. I didn't know that.

[21:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: So how old were you when you, when both of those sisters were born?

[21:26] Phil Bracco: Three or four.

[21:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, you were a baby baby.

[21:26] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Got it. Right.

[21:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. I see. I thought you were a little older. I didn't think that they would be that close in age, the sisters, three or four.

[21:38] Phil Bracco: Like, you know, usually you wait like a couple of years.

[21:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Let's say I'm four. The next one, I'm five or six.

[21:41] Phil Bracco: Like, you know, six is like getting into where you would have remembered.

[21:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: I remember after, I guess, I remember my father said you weigh more than me to my mother. That was a fight they had.

[21:57] Phil Bracco: Oh my God. No wonder why you're constantly commenting on women's bodies. Look at the shit your dad was saying.

[22:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Well, think about it. I mean, he, you know, she was, you know, she was depressed.

[22:08] Phil Bracco: Right. Because I'm guessing, I don't know.

[22:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Even if she did weigh more than him, she was pregnant.

[22:13] Phil Bracco: No, no, it was after. She was depressed.

[22:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: She gains weight because she was depressed after. And I'm guessing that was at the same timeline, but I don't know.

[22:24] Phil Bracco: Okay. So no juicy family secrets. Nothing I know of.

[22:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay. Anyway, Jess and Cody don't feel like they're that relevant in the Big Brother worlds. I feel like she's made like, yeah, you know, but like even, am I going crazy? Was Raven and Matt and all of them on their season?

[22:41] Phil Bracco: They're not relevant.

[22:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's true. It's, you know, it really started.

[22:46] Phil Bracco: Well, Josh was 16, right? But because he was on other shows, not because of Big Brother.

[22:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Paul, the only person I would say, maybe not really.

[22:56] Phil Bracco: No, it does his own thing. He's like, just the legend for his own reasons.

[23:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's different. I get what she means it. I do anyway.

[23:08] Tommy Bracco: So yeah, I'm excited to go out there for the finale or for the 1000th episode. It's going to be so fun.

[23:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: That is going to be fun.

[23:17] Phil Bracco: And you're going to do that and then go to the baby thing.

[23:15] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Then we have an appointment with our fertility doctor who's in San Diego. So that will be very exciting.

[23:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Super fun.

[23:25] Tommy Bracco: And then we fly home for three days. Then we fly to Iowa for Kim's wedding. Then it's just so many flights. Like Jonka said, it's crazy.

[23:30] Phil Bracco: That's a lot, but it'll be good. I'm very lucky, lucky to be working.

[23:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then once you have a baby, I don't have one flight in my future as of right now.

[23:39] Tommy Bracco: Oh my gosh. Not one flight booked. That's weird.

[23:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, especially for me.

[23:44] Phil Bracco: Wait, wait, wait. Like 2023, I had to scroll through my United app. Imagine when he has a baby, like his life is going to change.

[23:50] Tommy Bracco: No, his life is not changing.

[23:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: I was just going to say.

[23:55] Phil Bracco: Throwing that baby on a plane and going.

[23:55] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. I'm either going on the plane with the baby or you're watching the baby.

[24:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Are you kidding me, Joey? This baby is such a content investment, purely investment.

[24:06] Phil Bracco: Not my grandkids.

[24:06] Tommy Bracco: Yes. I am so excited to have it.

[24:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Wait, you don't think Joey's going to have a problem with that, putting him on planes?

[24:16] Phil Bracco: Joey's going to torture.

[24:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, that will definitely change.

[24:16] Phil Bracco: It definitely will change, but I can't help that what I do, like I make money by traveling, by teaching, by working, whatever it is, how I have to work.

[24:27] Tommy Bracco: Right.

[24:27] Phil Bracco: And he's going to bring them along because Joey can't watch him.

[24:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know why I'm saying him. I think it'll be a boy.

[24:36] Tommy Bracco: No. Who knows what it will be?

[24:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I actually do. I think he was going to have a boy first.

[24:40] Phil Bracco: Interesting.

[24:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: Whatever's meant to be, will be.

[24:40] Phil Bracco: Yeah. The whole thing. We know we're going to know.

[24:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: You're not going to choose the gender, even though you can, right?

[24:46] Phil Bracco: I don't think so. I think we're going to just like leave it up to fate.

[24:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: And you're going to know what the baby is either Joey or his.

[24:53] Phil Bracco: Yeah. I mean, it'll be both of ours.

[24:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, but I'm saying the look.

[25:00] Phil Bracco: Yeah. I mean, or maybe not because Thomas sent me this gorgeous.

[25:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: And like if it's mixed with Joey's, her genes are gonna dominate either way, and then it would look like that's true. You know what I mean? Like you're really, I don't know if it's gonna be super obvious, like yeah, whose egg you use.

[25:22] Tommy Bracco: Okay. Um, yeah, so crazy, very exciting. Very exciting. What else?

[25:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: What two weeks? I'm going to Aruba.

[25:30] Phil Bracco: I don't think we need to talk about that.

[25:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I won't be here. I want to talk about other shows. Um, I want to shout out Widow's Bay because Widow's Bay is one of the best television shows I've watched.

[25:42] Tommy Bracco: I gotta watch it. Severance, I'm dying to.

[25:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Is that the one? It's with the town? It's unreal. It is amazing. It's unreal.

[25:51] Tommy Bracco: I watched it once in four, and I watched it in 48 hours. I loved it so much and missed it so instantly that I then forced John, I made a deal with John, forced him to watch this show.

[26:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then we got to rewatch it, which is amazing. Um, I cannot believe you have not watched it yet.

[26:13] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I really want to. It is so everything, baby.

[26:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, 'cause it's like a little bit...

[26:17] Tommy Bracco: 19 Emmys? It deserves every single Emmy it gets.

[26:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, it's not a little funny. It's not a little bit scary.

[26:23] Tommy Bracco: I'm gonna watch it tomorrow.

[26:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: When you combine horror and comedy, one of them is stupid. It's either stupid comedy with actual scary or actual funny with stupid scary. Yeah, this is the only thing I've ever witnessed that is genuinely both. It is actually scary and actually funny.

[26:48] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I really want to watch. Like it's so...

[26:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, screen was both.

[26:56] Phil Bracco: Absolutely not. It's stupid.

[26:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, it's just fun.

[27:00] Phil Bracco: It's fun, but it's stupid. It's actually stupid on both ends. It's stupid comedy and it's stupid horror.

[27:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like you don't even mean it's just fun.

[27:11] Phil Bracco: I was sick over that.

[27:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, I'm so sad. Hayden Panettiere, that was really sad.

[27:13] Phil Bracco: Yeah, Hollywood is evil.

[27:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I hate Hollywood.

[27:22] Phil Bracco: Yeah, it's horrible. It just destroys people. It really does. It's single-handedly destroys so many people.

[27:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, and any of the people that are alive, are they happy?

[27:34] Phil Bracco: I mean, look at Justin Bieber right now. Like, I don't know. I just feel like anyone who reaches that elite status, there's very more often than not, they're messed up or not happy.

[27:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, or on drugs or dead.

[27:49] Phil Bracco: Like a very small handful of them.

[27:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, doing well, a hundred percent. I read off is one of them and like you don't think...

[27:53] Phil Bracco: Yes, and I feel like Adam Sandler's another, and I feel like it's not by accident. Obviously, it's not by accident, but I think it's very, very purposefully done that not only has he always been in control of his own production of his actors and actresses, using the same people, keeping his circle small.

[28:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Now he's doing everything for his daughter. Like, you know, because he has this deal with Netflix, so he has to pump out all these movies. Like he is just so... everything goes through him and he's almost in like his own little Hollywood bubble.

[28:29] Phil Bracco: And he's one of the very few that are happy and successful and in that 1%.

[28:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: I would say the same for Hilary Duff, actually.

[28:45] Phil Bracco: She's not like... I don't know if I would ever consider her like in the 1% of celebrity status. I love her so much, but like no, I don't know. I wouldn't put her on the same level as like Kim Kardashian, Justin Bieber, Jennifer Aniston, Adam Sandler.

[28:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: I wouldn't put her on...

[29:03] Phil Bracco: I hear you. She's like a notch out here and she's right under there.

[29:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, she did sell out Madison Square Garden.

[29:09] Phil Bracco: Yeah, that's... I said we have never seen a show like this.

[29:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like because we know a guy that works at Madison Square Garden that was gonna potentially... We went to her concert, the guy that works...

[29:22] Phil Bracco: They was gonna potentially get us better seats.

[29:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Mm-hmm, and we reached out to him. He said, I'm so sorry, I can't do anything for you. I know I said I might be able to, but this show is sold more than any other show that we've ever seen in the longest time.

[29:36] Phil Bracco: Wow.

[29:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: Crazy.

[29:36] Phil Bracco: Yeah, that is crazy. I wouldn't have thought that, but I agree with you. There's something about her that she's not like...

[29:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, Billie Eilish.

[29:41] Phil Bracco: I know.

[29:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I know.

[29:46] Phil Bracco: So, what about The Challenge?

[29:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, yeah.

[29:50] Phil Bracco: The Challenge is actually really great this season, and I'm really glad it's on streaming.

[29:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: It makes it so much better that we could watch it.

[29:55] Phil Bracco: Oh my gosh, thank goodness.

[29:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know what that means, but I know that...

[30:01] Tommy Bracco: Do you know The Challenge was only on MTV? You had to have cable still to watch it and record it, so no one was able to watch the show.

[30:10] Phil Bracco: People just see clips of it on...

[30:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Now they got bored out of boredom.

[30:17] Phil Bracco: Wow, so the red-headed girl from Amazing Race, what's her name?

[30:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Annalie?

[30:21] Phil Bracco: So she, we were just reading her caption before because she was acting slutty on The Challenge.

[30:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, and she's married forever.

[30:30] Phil Bracco: Yes, and you said that that was okay and Joey got upset.

[30:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, so basically Annalie was on The Challenge and she is flirting with Leo and tells him that she's horny.

[30:42] Phil Bracco: Yeah, she says I'm horny as fuck.

[30:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: And this is so... lyrics in the same thing. Like what's going on?

[30:47] Phil Bracco: Lyrics of that and Big Brother, what's going on with these shows?

[30:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: What do you mean? It's just people horny. That's what... what do you mean?

[30:53] Phil Bracco: Like what are they not allowed to say it?

[30:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: When you're married, yes, correct.

[31:01] Phil Bracco: Lyric doesn't... they're not... what do they have in common other than they're both women?

[31:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why is it okay?

[31:10] Phil Bracco: It's not okay. I'm sorry. I wouldn't want... would you be questioning it if it was two guys?

[31:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's what I'm essentially getting at. Like you're like, what's going on with these shows? I'm... you know, it's so crazy. If it weren't you guys, we wouldn't even be talking about this right now, right?

[31:26] Phil Bracco: You know, you're right.

[31:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: Even if a guy was married, like horny as fuck, like it and was married, like people would talk about it maybe for a millisecond, but there would never be a statement released. We wouldn't be talking about it on a podcast.

[31:40] Phil Bracco: It's just because it's a woman.

[31:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, that's true because you know what? There are people that were with other people on The Challenge and had to come out and apologize because...

[31:49] Phil Bracco: Tony, the matter of fact, he had to make a big deal because he was with somebody and he was... and he was trying to go... he actually went with somebody on the show.

[31:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Exactly.

[31:57] Phil Bracco: He actually physically cheated. If he said I'm so horny, trust me, would be nothing.

[32:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: She wouldn't be apologizing for what happened on the show.

[32:05] Phil Bracco: Annalie could not be sitting further apart from Leo when she said that. That's number one. Number two, what did she even say? She just said...

[32:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I think it's like... wait, she said it to him, to Leo?

[32:17] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[32:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but why?

[32:23] Phil Bracco: She was... they were talking about how like the tension, like you could cut it with a knife. Like she was like, yeah, I'm horny as fuck, but also like after watching Annalie on The Amazing Race, I have been waiting for her Challenge or TV debut again or return rather, and she is a gamer like no other.

[32:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Alright, wait, she will stop it.

[32:44] Phil Bracco: Oh my god, I just had a win. I just had a... like a memory thing.

[32:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[32:51] Phil Bracco: Um, there's a girl on The Challenge season right now, yeah, that was on Big Brother.

[32:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, blonde. What's her name?

[32:58] Phil Bracco: Riley?

[32:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Why is she unrecognizable?

[33:03] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I know. She did make a statement about because a lot of people spoke about it. She said I lost a lot of weight. Like, so what? Get over it.

[33:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, no, it has nothing...

[33:13] Phil Bracco: No, I recognize it.

[33:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I still physically was like John was watching and I had her up on the TV and I was looking at... oh, Big Brother clips so far, I can't see how it's the same person.

[33:23] Phil Bracco: It has nothing to do with the weight.

[33:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, she's skinny. She's a lot skinnier now.

[33:28] Phil Bracco: To me, her face doesn't look like her face.

[33:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, that's just from weight loss.

[33:33] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I don't know honestly. I don't know. Maybe she got shit done. Maybe, I don't know.

[33:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, that just like clicked in my brain. I forgot about that. Anyway, I come back to Annalie.

[33:44] Phil Bracco: So Annalie did this thing and like part of me feels like after watching her on The Amazing Race, I would bet money that she was thinking about the game when she was flirting, but she would just say that if that was the case.

[33:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know.

[33:59] Phil Bracco: He's funny. I really think... I really don't think that she would... I don't think it would make it better.

[34:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think if... imagine, Gel, imagine I did that and then I came out like I don't know who that is.

[34:11] Phil Bracco: I know, I hear you.

[34:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, we're looking at pics.

[34:13] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[34:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Joey is upset about that.

[34:17] Phil Bracco: Well, Joey, so I was writing back on Twitter saying Annalie didn't do anything that bad. Again, it goes back to like if this was a man, we would not be having this conversation.

[34:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, yeah, I do recognize that and part of me is speaking out about it, I think because it's not okay because you're on TV to do anything if you're in a relationship.

[34:39] Phil Bracco: If Joey had an opportunity to go on the show and...

[34:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'd be psycho though. You're such a rare case.

[34:46] Phil Bracco: I just feel like if it was gonna get him closer to winning...

[34:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: But that's not what she said.

[34:53] Phil Bracco: Well, she did it. She cried and felt bad after and went home and had to tell her husband.

[34:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, hear me out. So imagine I did that. Just say I'm Annalie in this situation.

[35:03] Phil Bracco: Now I come clean post all of the episode airing. I say, hey guys, I actually wasn't thinking I was doing it all for game. Do you think people are going to believe me or do you think that people are gonna just come at me even harder if I said that?

[35:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean, you're asking me. I actually think people would at least half the people would believe you.

[35:26] Phil Bracco: Okay, so the other half doesn't, but you'd know your truth. I think half the people believe you.

[35:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think the backlash that she would get would be so much worse if she didn't just say, yeah, maybe I should...

[35:36] Phil Bracco: No, what she should have done if it really was for a game is go in the DR and instead of doubling down...

[35:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: How do we know that she did it?

[35:44] Phil Bracco: How do we know? Like for editing purposes, how do we know? Because didn't they show her to your after?

[35:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Alright, so this... I'm always watching a show through like the lens of somebody that was on it already.

[35:49] Phil Bracco: Mm-hmm.

[35:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: And what she said in the DR afterwards was not anything that bad.

[36:02] Phil Bracco: She actually... if I'm trying to read between the episode and just like...

[36:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: She said to me what she said in the DR, I feel like it could have been taken out of context.

[36:14] Phil Bracco: I actually feel like she could have been in the DR saying, I'm doing this just for game, like this is not gonna go any further.

[36:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: But why would they love to edit her like that?

[36:20] Phil Bracco: I know, I don't think that that's the case.

[36:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't think she was doing it for game.

[36:37] Phil Bracco: I think she was maybe turned on that this guy that she thought was attractive was then in power and like, you know what I mean?

[36:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like I could see where it can kind of go hand in hand, but I don't think she was doing this as a game move to further her game.

[36:42] Phil Bracco: I think she was.

[36:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't, I really do.

[36:42] Phil Bracco: It would have been a part of her statement somewhere down the line.

[36:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was part of it.

[36:48] Phil Bracco: It would... nothing that she said...

[36:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know you're right about that.

[36:51] Phil Bracco: It wouldn't... even if people weren't gonna believe her, she could have threw that in anywhere in her statement and she did.

[36:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like at one point in her statement try to justify it, but it wasn't for game purposes.

[37:03] Phil Bracco: Yeah, and the other thing is now you think she'll be allowed back by her husband?

[37:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean, she's... this marriage is... I mean, if she's feeling that way, like I don't know if this marriage is like a super successful one.

[37:19] Phil Bracco: I don't know anything about their marriage. I can't... I'm not gonna make comments about their marriage. I don't even know them.

[37:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: I really mean it. If Joey was on a show and...

[37:25] Phil Bracco: I know you mean that. I know you might be like, do what you got to do to win.

[37:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Now let's act like... like I said, she could not be sitting first.

[37:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Hello? Hi. Are you outside?

[37:41] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I'm taking the garbage out.

[38:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Are you okay with that? With him coming off?

[38:16] Phil Bracco: Mmm. Literal crickets. You hear the crickets?

[38:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: I wouldn't be okay with it, but I trust him enough to know that he was just trying to...

[38:31] Tommy Bracco: So if he said to a gay guy, I'm having so hard trying to resist myself, I'm so horny right now.

[38:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then in the DR didn't, and at no point did it show in the DR that he was doing it for gay purposes.

[38:43] Phil Bracco: I would not be happy. Nope.

[38:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, well why were you acting like you...

[38:49] Phil Bracco: John already told me I'd come home to divorce papers.

[38:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wait, I gotta, why was he acting like it was gonna be okay at first?

[38:53] Tommy Bracco: I know, I'm so surprised. I'm so proud of you, Jelly.

[38:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh yeah, Thomas is so proud of you. Honestly, this is crazy, because now this is gonna motivate Thomas to go on because he knows like he could just do whatever he wants and you'll be okay.

[39:07] Phil Bracco: I need to clarify my statement. I don't, the reason why I said that was because I was very prepared for Thomas to have to flirt when he went on the challenge because we weren't sure who was gonna be there. So, but I wouldn't be happy.

[39:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Flirting, I also like, I do feel like it was not fair for me to say flirting. I should have just said if he were to let someone know I want to have sex with you right now. Not okay with that, Thomas. Don't even try it.

[39:36] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[39:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Joey, I was so, I'm so like happy with your answer. That was so, so cute.

[39:42] Phil Bracco: Yeah, at first.

[39:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was really cute that he said he trusts your gut.

[39:46] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I love that.

[39:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I do agree with it. I feel like honestly going, I think that's part of it also. Like I went into the challenge in a relationship and I said I will do whatever it takes to win. If I have to flirt a little bit to get to the top, yes, I will do that.

[40:04] Phil Bracco: You weren't married. You weren't married.

[40:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: I was not happy with that.

[40:08] Phil Bracco: He was not, and you guys were just dating and he was not happy with that.

[40:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: He wasn't happy with that, it's true. But I do, I don't know, I feel like I'm consistent.

[40:16] Phil Bracco: Yeah, you are.

[40:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: She didn't do anything that bad.

[40:18] Phil Bracco: It's Joey who's not consistent because I would have never thought that that would have been his answer.

[40:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right, you're making a lot of noise. Gotta go. Love you both.

[40:25] Phil Bracco: All right.

[40:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: But before we go, we have two questions.

[40:29] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[40:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Unique Musical Fan said, I have a question for your podcast. If you could be in any 80s film, what would you be in and why?

[40:40] Tommy Bracco: 16 Candles.

[40:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: 80s film. That's hard. I guess The Breakfast Club.

[40:48] Tommy Bracco: Because I love when they're hanging out and just having fun.

[40:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, we're in two Molly Ringwald movies.

[40:52] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[40:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: The one that I think is called Diner?

[40:57] Phil Bracco: Okay, you're supposed to be the big movie buff guy here.

[41:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: And you're saying, I think it's cold and talking about your era of movies.

[41:03] Phil Bracco: I'm trying to remember. It was the one when they went back for a funeral of their friend.

[41:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know.

[41:06] Phil Bracco: Anyway, next question.

[41:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: What do you thought, oh, Jake Wallier.

[41:13] Phil Bracco: What is he saying to me?

[41:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Jake Wallier.

[41:19] Phil Bracco: I can't read it. It's Jake Wallier.

[41:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[41:23] Phil Bracco: Says, what do you think...

[41:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, that wasn't the question?

[41:25] Phil Bracco: No.

[41:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's the guy's name.

[41:29] Phil Bracco: Jake Wallier.

[41:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's why he said, what are you saying to me?

[41:35] Phil Bracco: I literally thought that that was the question.

[41:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[41:39] Phil Bracco: What do you think of the Mosh Pit Alliance? Any thoughts on Drew Melody?

[41:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Of what?

[41:45] Phil Bracco: Drew Melody.

[41:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, Drew Melody. Up until three days ago, loved them.

[41:52] Phil Bracco: Supposedly, she has a boyfriend though. Weird.

[41:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Don't care, love her.

[41:56] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I don't care.

[41:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Don't care.

[41:59] Phil Bracco: And I love the Mosh Pit Alliance.

[42:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like I said, I think I'm just kind of ready for the tables to be turning on the icons.

[42:08] Phil Bracco: I don't, not necessarily Devins, but I do want to see Dee and Angela, you know, fight for their life a little bit.

[42:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Do we think that this was a good move for Devins or not?

[42:18] Phil Bracco: No, I do.

[42:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Using the power of Ido.

[42:20] Phil Bracco: I do, if they get Alcambu.

[42:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, it's very risky.

[42:24] Phil Bracco: What?

[42:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: So Joey said, I need to be clear that I would be okay with innocent flirting the way that Lyric did with Kamu on Big Brother, but that's it.

[42:33] Phil Bracco: And I would never be thrilled even with that, but I would get over it.

[42:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow, that was cute though.

[42:39] Phil Bracco: I like that he clarified that.

[42:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: And that makes sense, because what Lyric did with Kamu, but then she was in the DR saying, I'm just doing what I have to do to get ahead.

[42:48] Phil Bracco: A hundred percent.

[42:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: I do get that. I would not be okay if Mommy was flirting with anybody.

[42:54] Phil Bracco: Well, she flirts all the time, so you better figure that out.

[42:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, shit.

[42:58] Phil Bracco: I will tell you that when I worked there, I felt like it was a couple of times that she was flirting with people.

[43:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think she just means to be nice, but I think that people take it as flirting.

[43:08] Phil Bracco: Exactly right, and I know my wife, and I know how she's coming across.

[43:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: But she's just being nice.

[43:13] Phil Bracco: She's not flirting.

[43:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: I understand, but people could take it that way.

[43:17] Phil Bracco: And I don't want them thinking that.

[43:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, I get it.

[43:20] Phil Bracco: I feel the same way.

[43:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: About her?

[43:23] Phil Bracco: No, just in general.

[43:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: I wouldn't want like, is that about that you're not doing it? It's about that other people think.

[43:29] Phil Bracco: Take it that way.

[43:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: You know, take it that way.

[43:31] Phil Bracco: But in the show, I would not like that.

[43:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because I know me as a woman. If somebody else's husband, what I feel like is flirting with me, even if it's not flirting, I then instantly look at their marriage and I'm like, oh, so he's a piece of shit.

[43:45] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[43:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: You know what I mean?

[43:47] Phil Bracco: Yeah, this is an interesting point.

[43:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: I do know what you mean.

[43:50] Phil Bracco: Okay, so.

[43:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: What?

[43:52] Phil Bracco: Joey's ex-boyfriend.

[43:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, come on.

[43:55] Phil Bracco: Who is in the closet.

[43:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's married with kids.

[44:01] Phil Bracco: He's married to a woman with kids.

[44:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Who can't do this on TV?

[44:06] Phil Bracco: Who cares?

[44:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: It doesn't matter.

[44:08] Phil Bracco: He will view Joey's LinkedIn profile every once in a while.

[44:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: And every time he does, Joey gets a notification.

[44:17] Phil Bracco: And it's common knowledge on LinkedIn that when someone views your profile, when you view someone's profile, they get a notification.

[44:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: So this guy has a past, a history of kind of like being a sociopath and really doing some fucked up shit to all their friends.

[44:33] Phil Bracco: He plays mind games like that.

[44:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think he's purposefully looking at Joey's LinkedIn so Joey gets the notification.

[44:43] Phil Bracco: Do you think Joey should block him or let it go and who cares and move on?

[44:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: I would say who cares, let it go and move on.

[44:55] Phil Bracco: Me too.

[44:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: But to what you said before, to that point, I feel like now that ex-boyfriend is knowing that he's not blocked and thinking that Joey is okay with him reaching out.

[45:12] Phil Bracco: I love that you literally fully finished explaining where you were going with it. And I was like, okay, I see where you're going. You were like done at that point.

[45:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: But yes, I totally...

[45:22] Phil Bracco: You know what I mean?

[45:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes.

[45:24] Phil Bracco: I mean, as long as you want him blocked, he should be blocked.

[45:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't really care, honestly.

[45:29] Phil Bracco: You're like, oh, does he think that Joey likes that he's going on his page?

[45:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[45:35] Phil Bracco: I totally get that.

[45:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: So like, does he think that Joey is okay?

[45:38] Phil Bracco: If it were John, yes.

[45:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: John would not have LinkedIn at this point.

[45:42] Phil Bracco: So John's LinkedIn would be gone.

[45:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: You just turned real quick.

[45:47] Phil Bracco: Yeah, no.

[45:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I'm not.

[45:49] Phil Bracco: I didn't turn. What I was saying was because I know normally Joey's the cycle. I never thought that would be something Thomas would care about.

[45:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: I got LinkedIn. I don't go on LinkedIn that much.

[45:58] Phil Bracco: So I wouldn't know if somebody's looking at my profile.

[46:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but if you're a young LinkedIn user, you know that when you view someone's profile...

[46:07] Phil Bracco: Oh, I know that.

[46:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know that. When I go on, I see you look at my thing.

[46:10] Phil Bracco: I think it's his way of sending a message to Joey.

[46:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: And the fact that Joey doesn't...

[46:14] Phil Bracco: I don't know what the right thing to do is, honestly.

[46:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: So he's part of the spectrum.

[46:18] Phil Bracco: We didn't take the Joey back.

[46:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: So Joey sent me that whole thing about it flirting. And my response was, it's time for you to delete LinkedIn.

[46:25] Phil Bracco: And he said, oh my God.

[46:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my God.

[46:33] Phil Bracco: It is.

[46:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: He doesn't need it.

[46:35] Phil Bracco: All right.

[46:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: He does need LinkedIn.

[46:37] Phil Bracco: Yeah, he really does.

[46:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: He really, really, really does.

[46:40] Phil Bracco: If there's any app that he needs, it's LinkedIn.

[46:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: But I just don't know what the right...

[46:46] Phil Bracco: I don't know what I feel, and I don't know what the right thing is, honestly.

[46:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: I was really stuck because...

[46:50] Phil Bracco: No, I actually think the block thing is great because it's like, oh, go away, fly.

[46:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know. I felt like that. Just go away.

[46:58] Phil Bracco: It's not like you care, but the next time...

[47:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: I didn't realize...

[47:01] Phil Bracco: I wouldn't do it randomly.

[47:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: The next time he sends a notification, that's it, block.

[47:05] Phil Bracco: I will tell you that I didn't think...

[47:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Don't think you can reach out to me.

[47:08] Phil Bracco: Get away.

[47:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: I didn't think that people use LinkedIn like that.

[47:12] Phil Bracco: Just sociopaths do.

[47:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[47:15] Phil Bracco: A lot of sociopaths cheat on LinkedIn.

[47:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow.

[47:18] Phil Bracco: You can't be serious.

[47:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[47:20] Phil Bracco: That's crazy.

[47:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway.

[47:22] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[47:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Last thing that I got to say is, I'm so proud the other day, you accused me of looking at OnlyFans, and then you looked at my phone and didn't find it.

[47:33] Phil Bracco: It doesn't matter because Jamie had a great point. One, when I clicked your Safari, it instantly brought me to a private browser.

[47:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: And if you normally look at stuff on a private browser, it wouldn't be in your history.

[47:43] Phil Bracco: So it's irrelevant.

[47:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: We are back at square one. We don't know if you look at OnlyFans or not.

[47:48] Phil Bracco: So...

[47:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[47:51] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[47:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Anyway.

[47:53] Phil Bracco: Excited for Earl Meets World.

[47:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Excited for...

[47:55] Phil Bracco: Earl.

[47:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[47:57] Phil Bracco: Who Meets World?

[47:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Earl Meets World.

[47:59] Phil Bracco: What's that?

[48:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Alex Earl's new reality show.

[48:01] Phil Bracco: Is anyone watching Dancing With The Stars search for the next pro?

[48:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[48:06] Phil Bracco: I watched first episode along with everybody else, and everyone else stopped watching after that.

[48:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, the ratings are doing great.

[48:12] Phil Bracco: No, that's lies.

[48:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: They do make up for it.

[48:15] Phil Bracco: But I am excited for Dancing With The Stars.

[48:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, me too.

[48:20] Phil Bracco: Whitney's pregnant.

[48:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: They gave her a partner that, you know, they would give a pregnant person.

[48:24] Phil Bracco: Yes.

[48:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes.

[48:26] Phil Bracco: So...

[48:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's a very fair way to put it.

[48:28] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I'm very excited.

[48:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Are you saying the person's ugly?

[48:32] Phil Bracco: No, they're just not going to do well.

[48:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: And if they do, they can't do crazy moves and stuff.

[48:39] Phil Bracco: Right.

[48:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: An old person.

[48:41] Phil Bracco: An older, yeah, an older.

[48:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[48:44] Phil Bracco: In Uncle Phil's words, heavy set person.

[48:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: And very inexperienced.

[48:47] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[48:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Which I saw, my friends were talking about, that Jenna Tatum is...

[48:54] Phil Bracco: Who's Jenna Tatum?

[48:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Channing Tatum's ex-wife, who was a professional dancer.

[48:59] Phil Bracco: Wait, Jenna Dewan?

[49:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes.

[49:02] Phil Bracco: Tyler Cameron and Jenna Dewan are competing on Dancing With The Stars season 35.

[49:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, that's crazy, because the guy, I know her husband.

[49:09] Phil Bracco: He was in Pretty Woman.

[49:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, Jenna Dewan, yeah, that's not fair.

[49:13] Phil Bracco: Oh, because they're so good.

[49:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, she's a professional dancer.

[49:17] Phil Bracco: Listen, sure, we did it with Charli D'Amelio, we did it with Zendaya, but those are people we want to see.

[49:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't really want to see Jenna, the professional dancer, dance.

[49:24] Phil Bracco: I do.

[49:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't.

[49:28] Phil Bracco: She had a few kids.

[49:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's been out of the public eye for a while.

[49:32] Phil Bracco: She was famous for dancing, and then now she's had two babies, and she's been not dancing for probably 10 years.

[49:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, whatever.

[49:41] Phil Bracco: I'm excited to see her, if that's true.

[49:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Also, my friend's married to her, so that'd be cool.

[49:45] Phil Bracco: That's cool.

[49:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[49:48] Phil Bracco: That is cool.

[49:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Interesting.

[49:50] Phil Bracco: Okay, cool.

[49:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, this has been so fun.

[49:52] Phil Bracco: Yeah, wow.

[49:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Maybe we'll be back next week.

[49:55] Phil Bracco: Maybe we won't.

[49:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: I could do next week, and then after that I'm going to Aruba.

[49:59] Phil Bracco: We'll see what happens.

[50:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, we'll see.

[50:01] Phil Bracco: Who knows?

[50:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: We like to keep you all on your toes.

[50:04] Phil Bracco: It's been real.