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[0:00] Tommy Bracco: Hi everyone, it's Tommy.

[0:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: And Angelica.

[0:03] Phil Bracco: And I'm Phil.

[0:04] Tommy Bracco: And you are listening to Real Tawk.

[0:08] Phil Bracco: What's up, everyone? How we doing?

[0:10] Tommy Bracco: Alright. I just want to, you know, get a couple things out of the way.

[0:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Wow.

[0:13] Phil Bracco: Oh, okay.

[0:14] Tommy Bracco: Right out the beginning.

[0:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Starting off strong.

[0:15] Phil Bracco: Let's go.

[0:16] Tommy Bracco: Alright. How's Jess?

[0:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, my hermit crab, she's okay. She's, I don't, I think she's alright. Um, so yeah, for anyone that doesn't know, I've had two hermit crabs, Jess and Nick.

[0:28] Tommy Bracco: They're named after Joey's brother and sister-in-law. I've had them for two and a half years now. And one of them, we can't tell if she's dying or just growing, and that's what we're trying to figure out.

[0:41] Phil Bracco: She completed the color.

[0:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's dying, and you're literally, she is a vegetable on life support, begging for the plug to be pulled, and you're refusing to pull it.

[0:51] Tommy Bracco: Let me tell you guys what happened. So I was going to clean out the cage as I do once a week, and as I'm bringing it to the sink, I see a claw in the middle, like right underneath her hut.

[1:04] Tommy Bracco: So now I panic. I basically drop the cage. I'm panicking, and I'm like, Joey, you gotta go look. You gotta figure out what's going on with Jess and Nick. I'm not sure. He looks, he says, Yeah, Thomas, then I see a body, so she's dead.

[1:19] Phil Bracco: So he's dead.

[1:20] Tommy Bracco: First we thought it was Nick, and I was so happy because I like Jess better than Nick, and now I'm so upset because Jess is the one that's in the... How do you know the difference?

[1:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: They're shells.

[1:39] Tommy Bracco: But anyway, so basically we find a body in the cage. So I think we think it's dead. We take that body, we throw it in the trash, right on top of the trash.

[1:54] Phil Bracco: You did.

[1:55] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. Joey did. You crumbled.

[1:57] Phil Bracco: I crumbled.

[1:58] Tommy Bracco: I sat on the couch. I couldn't deal with it. I was upset. I couldn't do it. So Joey took the body, put it right on top of the trash, and then he took the shell, put that right next to it.

[2:08] Tommy Bracco: I walk past the trash. I see something moving in the shell, even though the body is right next to the shell in the trash. So I'm like, is that the shell of, is that the body of a baby? What is that body if Jess is in the shell?

[2:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: And now do they like shed?

[2:26] Tommy Bracco: Well, that's what we found out, that they do shed, and they like, it's really, it's crazy because their body, it looks like it's their body, but apparently it's hollow.

[2:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: It doesn't look like it's hollow though. Like, you know, when a snake sheds and you could tell that it's like skin, it's like see-through. This is not like that.

[2:45] Tommy Bracco: This looks like just a claw, legs, a full body.

[2:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh my god, do you have pictures of this?

[2:51] Tommy Bracco: I think I videoed it. Yeah, I'll show you after. But like, I really thought it was her body. So I was panicking. I'm like, she's dead, but then something was moving in the shell.

[3:01] Phil Bracco: So I was mourning.

[3:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: So nervous that I'm gonna yell at him about his cough.

[3:05] Phil Bracco: Yeah, he's so nervous. Every time he coughs, he looks at me like this.

[3:09] Tommy Bracco: Tom is like so.

[3:15] Phil Bracco: Alright, so basically, I went from mourning the death of my hermit crab to realizing that she may just be growing, and that we're figuring that out.

[3:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: What are you doing with your toe? What are you doing? Why are you being so weird?

[3:30] Phil Bracco: I don't know.

[3:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's extending his toes and like grabbing the coffee table. We were fine, and then Joey came and he brought all these awkward vibes with him, and now he's slowly rubbing it on everyone.

[3:43] Phil Bracco: Look at the way he's sitting.

[3:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, why are you sitting like that, Joey? Joey's sitting with his shoulders as hot up to his head. He looks so tense because of his feelings.

[3:53] Phil Bracco: I don't know what it is.

[3:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well.

[3:55] Tommy Bracco: Well, anyway.

[3:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: So just so you know, go ahead.

[3:58] Tommy Bracco: Oh, anyway. I'm, I just want one last thing I'll say about Jess and Nick. Because I'm very, I'm very concerned. I'm just not sure what's happening.

[4:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: And where everyone say a prayer for my hermit crab Jessica, please.

[4:11] Phil Bracco: Because you want nothing to do with them.

[4:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's why I said that.

[4:14] Phil Bracco: That's not fair. Like you literally hate them. You were celebrating their death.

[4:18] Tommy Bracco: Do you know that he didn't even know the difference between the two of them? We've had them for two and a half years.

[4:24] Phil Bracco: He said, Thomas, Nick is dead.

[4:26] Tommy Bracco: And what made you so confident? Like, why didn't you just say one of the hermit crabs? Like, if you didn't know, like, why'd you name it?

[4:38] Phil Bracco: He has no answer.

[4:40] Tommy Bracco: I hate him. Uh, just so let everybody know, I did go to the doctor for this cough for the fifth time.

[4:46] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[4:47] Tommy Bracco: Doctor gave me medicine and said you'd be better in two days. It's day three.

[4:52] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I was not better yet.

[4:53] Tommy Bracco: But I feel better.

[4:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Did you see what he coughed up?

[4:56] Phil Bracco: No, what?

[4:57] Tommy Bracco: Oh.

[4:58] Phil Bracco: It's crazy.

[5:00] Tommy Bracco: Is it bloody?

[5:00] Phil Bracco: No.

[5:01] Tommy Bracco: No, it wasn't bloody. It's yellow.

[5:03] Phil Bracco: It's very yellow. I sent it to mommy, but somehow she saw it.

[5:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Ew, that's nasty.

[5:08] Phil Bracco: It was like a bowl like this of just yellow, hard go.

[5:11] Tommy Bracco: Well, that's good that you got it out.

[5:13] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[5:13] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I am getting better, but I'm still gonna do it. And then he said he coughed up a bigger one, but smeared it, so he didn't take a bit drunk.

[5:20] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[5:20] Tommy Bracco: So so far we're talking about dead hermit crabs and phlegm.

[5:24] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[5:24] Tommy Bracco: Yeah. You know what? I got two other personal things. We'll talk about them later. Let's get into the reality shows.

[5:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, cool.

[5:30] Tommy Bracco: Um, separate it.

[5:31] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[5:32] Tommy Bracco: Where do we start?

[5:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: The Traitors?

[5:34] Tommy Bracco: Um, no, let's start with Love is Blind, because I just need to.

[5:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Love is blind.

[5:39] Tommy Bracco: Love is blind. Actually, sorry, can we start with The Bachelor?

[5:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because I don't know if you guys know this, but Reality Steve was wrong.

[5:47] Phil Bracco: Oh yes, I saw.

[5:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Huge. Like, so Reality Steve had these stories.

[5:54] Tommy Bracco: I said he might be wrong.

[5:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, he was wrong.

[5:57] Tommy Bracco: You did say that. Do you want to know who wins?

[6:00] Phil Bracco: No!

[6:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, it's, you want me to tell you?

[6:02] Phil Bracco: No, I don't want to know.

[6:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: So he had a story, and basically the two names got flipped.

[6:11] Tommy Bracco: He doesn't know how, but they got flipped.

[6:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: So who we thought was runner up and who we thought is engaged to Joey, it's now in reverse.

[6:18] Phil Bracco: Wow, okay.

[6:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. But so it's a big deal because so many people rely on his information, and he's usually never wrong.

[6:24] Tommy Bracco: And so they were painting this girl for so long as like the person Joey's engaged to, making her like Miss America, like obsessed with her, and now it's just everybody kind of has to jump ship on her and get on the other one, and it's just like, it's just crazy.

[6:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: But um, well, I want to say about The Bachelor, we don't really need to talk about it that much, but I love Maria, would love to see her as Bachelorette.

[6:49] Phil Bracco: Don't think it's gonna happen, but I would love it.

[6:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: And Kelsey, after this last episode with her one on one, really grew on me. I did not like her prior to that.

[6:56] Phil Bracco: But then after this one on one, I love her.

[6:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, Kelsey's great.

[7:00] Phil Bracco: Yeah. I actually think he likes Maria a lot, but the way she acts, he's having reservations.

[7:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, of course.

[7:08] Phil Bracco: Of course. She's a little nuts.

[7:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[7:11] Phil Bracco: But I don't blame her. You're making out in front of me.

[7:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, that's, I can't imagine myself in that situation.

[7:17] Phil Bracco: So I don't know. So I kind of don't blame her.

[7:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, not at all.

[7:20] Phil Bracco: No, and the other two girls, the flaky other two girls that went home that was starting with her, making her trying to make her act to be a boy.

[7:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, those she wasn't wrong there either.

[7:30] Phil Bracco: So I don't blame her, but that's the show, and you shouldn't be on the show then.

[7:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: I was really sad to see Jen Tran go. I really liked Jen, and I felt like she really liked Joey, and she was so beautiful, so sweet, but you know, I guess just not his person.

[7:44] Phil Bracco: Yeah, and Daisy's not really showing him enough.

[7:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's the problem that she's having.

[7:50] Phil Bracco: Yeah, that vocal fry really kills me.

[7:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know.

[7:54] Phil Bracco: Well, that was fucked up.

[7:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: She has no hearing disability.

[7:58] Phil Bracco: No, but you're making fun of her.

[8:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: No.

[8:01] Phil Bracco: You might have to cut this out.

[8:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, no, no. Are you kidding? Vocal fry doesn't mean because you're deaf.

[8:08] Phil Bracco: No, I agree, but the way you just imitated her.

[8:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, if you listen to Howard Stern, he makes fun of vocal fries all the time.

[8:15] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah.

[8:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: So don't try to put it on the deaf thing, it has nothing to do with that.

[8:19] Phil Bracco: And she's not deaf.

[8:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's hard of hearing.

[8:21] Phil Bracco: She's hard of hearing.

[8:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. And she has a monitor to help her hear fully.

[8:25] Phil Bracco: Oh, I didn't know she had a monitor.

[8:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: What do you think the cochlear implant is?

[8:30] Phil Bracco: Oh, I didn't know that. I thought it was a, um...

[8:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, that's what helps her hear.

[8:34] Phil Bracco: Not a monitor.

[8:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: I thought it was a hearing aid.

[8:35] Phil Bracco: Well, I mean, I'm just calling it a monitor, but that's what it is.

[8:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, but a monitor, I'm seeing on the...

[8:42] Phil Bracco: I just mean that she has something that's helping her with her hearing.

[8:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay.

[8:45] Phil Bracco: Um, anyway, so yeah, that's Bachelor.

[8:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: Okay, now we can go to Love is Blind.

[8:49] Phil Bracco: Hometowns coming up.

[8:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, that's gonna be fun.

[8:52] Phil Bracco: Mm-hmm. Great.

[8:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Love is Blind. Is that Maria's father kind of threatens him?

[8:56] Phil Bracco: That's kind of what?

[8:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: Kind of threatens Joey.

[8:58] Phil Bracco: Yes, the boy with the long hair. He looks like he's like in that LA scene.

[9:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Did you see Maria was in a movie?

[9:04] Phil Bracco: What movie?

[9:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, when she was younger, she was with the Rock, and um, yeah, I did see this.

[9:11] Phil Bracco: Yes, I did.

[9:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love her. I think she's so funny.

[9:14] Phil Bracco: Vin Diesel.

[9:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, yeah, she's great.

[9:19] Tommy Bracco: Alright, Love is Blind. How crazy was Love is Blind?

[9:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: Chelsea's out of her mind.

[9:29] Tommy Bracco: Um, I really don't care about that though. All I care about is how disgusting. One, I said it. You gotta give me credit because I said Jeremy was a piece of shit after when we were still in the pods.

[9:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: I said he's a piece of shit. I said he's the worst type of person, and he's only proven me right.

[9:51] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[9:51] Tommy Bracco: And did you see the picture of his teeth?

[9:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I do.

[9:57] Phil Bracco: Did you see this, Uncle Phil?

[9:59] Tommy Bracco: It looks like, uh, oof. What's wrong with that tooth?

[10:02] Phil Bracco: I don't know if it's corn.

[10:04] Tommy Bracco: It looks like they were at a barbecue, so it could be corn.

[10:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: I've never wanted to vomit more in my life. This is what Uncle Phil's phlegm looked like, also color wise.

[10:13] Phil Bracco: We're gonna post that on the story because that too is rough.

[10:16] Tommy Bracco: He's disgusting. Sarah Ann is disgusting, and I saw a TikTok and it explains it perfectly.

[10:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: She is just somebody who has never been picked first in her life. She's somebody who was always the side character, never the main character, and she just wanted to feel wanted so bad.

[10:32] Tommy Bracco: Like, the way she switched up when she was upset about the way the girls were talking about her, and then Jeremy was like, Yeah, well, I don't want Lauren anymore, or Laura anymore.

[10:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, I want you. She just was like, Oh, great, okay, nothing else bothers me. Like, that's insane.

[10:50] Tommy Bracco: Did you see? I do have an unpopular opinion that I want to...

[10:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: If you stick up for Sarah Ann, I'm walking out of here.

[10:57] Tommy Bracco: You may be leaving then because I'm gonna stick up for her, but I'm also gonna not stick up for her.

[11:05] Phil Bracco: No.

[11:06] Tommy Bracco: I don't think that she was wrong for sending that message.

[11:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't think that the message was bad. She's getting a lot of heat. She sent Jeremy a message that just said, I've really enjoyed my time with you. It was a great experience.

[11:19] Tommy Bracco: If things don't work out with you and Laura, just know that the door's open. This is a very weird experiment, and it happens very often that people don't work out. If this was a normal case where it was a normal engaged couple that did not meet on it through this experiment, she would be in the wrong.

[11:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: But because she was a part of the experiment and she was right down to the end. I think that she was valid for sending him that message. I don't like the way that she handled everything afterwards. So that's where I will agree with you. The jet skis really, like, that's where she went wrong completely. Like, she completely lost me there. But as far as the message goes, I don't think she was wrong in the first place.

[12:02] Phil Bracco: You don't think she could have gotten the same type of vibe across, but just had said something more along the lines of like, hey, I hope you're doing well? Like, just something to let her know that she was there without saying, like, if you don't work out with the girl that you chose over me, I'm still here. Hey, like, that's disgusting. She could have prefaced it way different.

[12:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: I'm not, we're nobody's saying she shouldn't have messaged him. We're saying what the message said.

[12:36] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I don't think it was that bad considering the experiment.

[12:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's not that it was that bad. It just was not necessary. It was the words that she used and the way she said and sent this message was just not necessary.

[12:48] Tommy Bracco: When you feel like you're in love with someone, I'm just putting myself in her shoes.

[12:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Please, she did not like him. He was just the closest person that would have picked her.

[12:56] Tommy Bracco: When you, I'm just putting myself in her shoes, and I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt and saying, so you think she really liked him, but did not shed one tear when he broke up?

[13:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: When you really feel something for someone and then you let them walk away, she maybe had regrets afterwards and said, I wish I did put myself out there. I wish I did speak up in the moment. I didn't say what I really felt. Because she did leave right away in the pods. It was weird. But what we know is that she literally is just a pick me and is not a girl's girl and sucks as a human.

[13:36] Phil Bracco: That's what she showed us then after. So, like, yes, I do agree. You're right. I do think those things because the jet skis were fucked up. Fucked up. She should not have gotten on those jet skis.

[13:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's amazing. Laura's like my number one. I love her so much. The fact that she even ever kissed that man is probably the worst part of her.

[13:58] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, I completely agree. So, a couple things about Laura. Very, very it's cool.

[14:03] Phil Bracco: She's very cool, right?

[14:05] Tommy Bracco: Very.

[14:05] Phil Bracco: Okay, you don't think she's hot. That's fine.

[14:07] Tommy Bracco: She's not into you either.

[14:09] Phil Bracco: Didn't say that.

[14:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but we could tell from your vibe.

[14:11] Phil Bracco: Didn't say that.

[14:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: When they were asking her, did you like feel him down there? Whatever. She goes, bitch, I got employees, but then she wears an outfit that was like all out.

[14:24] Phil Bracco: You still got employees. Why are you gonna dress like that?

[14:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Ew, are you kidding?

[14:29] Phil Bracco: What? This is so gross and sexist of you. You're gonna get kicked off this podcast if you don't cut it out.

[14:34] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, first he's making fun of deaf people.

[14:36] Phil Bracco: I didn't make fun of that person. No, I did not make fun of a deaf person. Do not say that.

[14:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Now he's sexist.

[14:43] Phil Bracco: Now he's sexist. He's really.

[14:45] Tommy Bracco: We really have all deaf.

[14:46] Phil Bracco: You say I have employees. I can't act like that. Why would you wear that outfit?

[14:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: What was wrong with that outfit?

[14:54] Phil Bracco: It was a bathing suit.

[14:55] Tommy Bracco: I don't even know what outfit you're talking about.

[14:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's talking about I know exactly what I know what he's talking about because I actually just didn't like the bathing suit on her.

[15:03] Phil Bracco: I didn't like the bathing suit, but I didn't think it was too revealing or anything. It was just a different type of bathing suit.

[15:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why were you like distracted from what they were saying? Like that's a you problem then.

[15:13] Phil Bracco: Yeah, what about it? Think about you, you would just honestly, I don't even think that you think what you say you're thinking.

[15:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't even think you actually believe that. I think that you are confused.

[15:26] Tommy Bracco: Okay, because I too watched that clip and I saw that bathing suit, and I was distracted and I went, Oh, that's a weird bathing suit.

[15:36] Phil Bracco: I didn't even process that bathing suit. How about that? I have no idea what you guys are talking about. But the bathing suit actually has more material than a typical bathing suit.

[15:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: So for you to say that, how could she wear that and not be covered up? She was actually more complicated. They were all wearing actual thongs and their ass was out. That wasn't distracting for you.

[15:52] Phil Bracco: But Laura said the word regular bathing suit top.

[15:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: I never said distracting in there. You guys are using the word distracting. So nobody else works. The girls who had their ass out, nobody else works. They don't have coworkers.

[16:04] Phil Bracco: She made a point to say, I got employees.

[16:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, because she doesn't want to talk about her fiancé's dick size. Rightfully so.

[16:10] Tommy Bracco: Like that's insane. What you're saying. It's insane.

[16:15] Phil Bracco: Alright. So you want her to not wear a bathing suit on TV because she doesn't want to talk about her.

[16:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, no, no. If you wear a sexy bikini, you must talk about your man's dick size on TV. Like that's insane. That's what you're saying. That's insane.

[16:30] Phil Bracco: Wow. So he because he knows. You two are like that. He knows he is crazy.

[16:34] Tommy Bracco: First of all, you're making things up about me.

[16:38] Phil Bracco: He's worried that we said he was making fun of deaf people. It isn't like that one. But now we have to keep it in now because you can't go back and cut out this many deaf people things.

[16:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't do editing.

[16:50] Phil Bracco: Anyway.

[16:52] Tommy Bracco: Oh, right. He's uploading it tonight.

[16:54] Phil Bracco: Yeah, that's it. A D AD is perfect. Clocked Sarah Ann.

[16:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes, she did. I love A D. But again, it goes back to I don't think that Sarah Ann was wrong for the message that she's like.

[17:05] Phil Bracco: I love the way A D hands. But I still love A D, yes. Sarah Ann started out very nice. Very like trying to, and then you can see she started getting angry.

[17:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right, yeah, rightfully so. Um, A D's mom, brilliant advice.

[17:19] Phil Bracco: Oh my god, we were saying we were like, where were these hired actors as parents? Like, they are amazing.

[17:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: All amazing. All the parents were incredible. Loved the parents. But Jacqueline was the star. She was incredible.

[17:33] Phil Bracco: She was the star of the thing. The fact that I even remember her name.

[17:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, she was amazing. Amazing.

[17:39] Phil Bracco: Um, and the memes and TikToks of Clay like bringing up cheating is so funny. I mean, he's just warning her, it's gonna happen.

[17:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, it's actually comical. I have another unpopular opinion.

[17:53] Phil Bracco: Oh, he thinks, let me guess, he thinks cheating's genetic.

[17:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, no. Well, I do think that like it's part of your foundation. If that's what you grow up seeing, you're gonna, it's part of your foundation.

[18:05] Phil Bracco: Um, it could go either way. You can either say it's like with drugs never be like my father, and I will never do anything like that. And you could be the most loyal person in the world, or you can be like fall into the same pattern, yeah, fall into the same pattern. It's like drugs, honestly. Like, it's like any negative vice in that you're raised with it in your childhood, like if you see it, it goes one of either way.

[18:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, okay, anyway. But here's my unpopular opinion. As much as I am obsessed with her, A D should not be with Clay.

[18:39] Phil Bracco: He, she is wrong for putting up with him.

[18:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's like my dad said, I do agree. He is basically saying, I'm gonna cheat on you, and she's still sticking around. That to me is somebody that needs to like she's not saying like I'm not gonna put up with that.

[18:59] Phil Bracco: And if you don't know if you can't refrain from that, then I can't be in the phone.

[19:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, you know what? That might be like, it might come up at the wedding.

[19:06] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yes. We don't know, we can't judge it yet because she might see.

[19:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, like she lets him, she lets him like talk crazy and say all this stuff, and then she just like takes him back.

[19:19] Phil Bracco: But like she's gonna be dealing with this her whole life.

[19:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know, I know. That's what it's gonna be. And then he was like, Oh, um, I don't know that you feel that way.

[19:32] Phil Bracco: I don't know. Oh, that um, if they don't get married, that she doesn't want to date.

[19:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. What fair, I guess. She's like, I'm here for the process.

[19:43] Phil Bracco: I do like when she lays the law down. I just hope that she like, you know, I'm not sure.

[19:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Speaking of laying the law down when Jimmy was like, you never said I can't have girlfriends. Are you saying that? Are you saying that? Are you saying that? Finally, she's like, Chelsea's like, yeah, yeah, I'm saying that you can have friends that are girls.

[20:01] Phil Bracco: He goes, okay, well, I'm not, I'm not doing that. So it doesn't matter. Like, literally trapped her. I loved it.

[20:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, me too. Um, what about the friendo? A lot of the world is split up with like people that like Jimmy and people that hate Jimmy.

[20:16] Phil Bracco: I would say I fall in the middle. Like, I really, I don't, I'm not obsessed with him, but I definitely do not hate him by any means.

[20:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, he has to run away from Chelsea, she is nuts.

[20:26] Phil Bracco: But she's nuts for no.

[20:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean, listen, you a lot of these girls on these shows are insecure. She's not anything new. The issue is that he is actively telling her things that he is not feeling, and she is feeling that.

[20:41] Phil Bracco: And so she's scrambling and trying to figure out why she's feeling this way, and it's trying to control him, and it's trying to not feel insecure, and he's saying, I love you, I love you, I love you, but he's not giving her love at all.

[20:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean, I don't know. I did see a TikTok where she said, you we're filming not all day, and when we're filming, he looks great. When we're not filming, he's not going to be able to do it.

[21:05] Phil Bracco: I even can I even can tell that filming, he's not in love with this woman.

[21:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: He does not love Chelsea. He's not in love with Chelsea. He maybe cares for her. They maybe had a great connection in the pod. It did not follow through once they met.

[21:18] Phil Bracco: And so her insecurities are valid, but neither of them are recognizing that they need to step away from the city.

[21:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: I agree with you, but I also will say every season I watch, and then I we see who gets married, and I'm always surprised.

[21:36] Phil Bracco: So like I'll never forget about Amber and Barnett. Like I was like, what? They're so married.

[21:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know he must, he really loved her.

[21:49] Phil Bracco: He really loved him. But you couldn't, that's exactly what this Chelsea and Jimmy remind me a lot of Amber and Barnett.

[21:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Even the way that the both of the women are insecure, like I but my point is Jimmy and Chelsea may surprise us and they may wind up together.

[22:04] Phil Bracco: No way, they might.

[22:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, there's no way.

[22:07] Phil Bracco: There's no way because I've seen them doing TikToks, right?

[22:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, they don't end up together. They're not too not.

[22:13] Phil Bracco: Now, it's kind of messed up that she outed the friend on TV.

[22:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, that was fucked up.

[22:19] Phil Bracco: And he was like, I'm not comfortable with it. Well, she's really fucked up. Never mind that she's going off on him about going to a bar for an hour for his friend's birthday.

[22:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: She lied and tried to make up that he was with people that he clearly wasn't because then she just dropped it.

[22:36] Phil Bracco: She's doing this all while drunk. Like, you really don't have a leg to stand on.

[22:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, yeah, so getting hammered at home is better than him going out, having one drink, and coming home to you.

[22:47] Phil Bracco: Like, I don't, I think he should have stood away. I don't know. He broke up with her, he should have stood away.

[22:53] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um, now to go into that thing.

[22:55] Phil Bracco: Yeah, he actually might really like her. Like the fact that he got back with her, like he had an out.

[22:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[22:56] Phil Bracco: He had an out, and he didn't know. I'm telling you, he might like her.

[23:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Now, now he goes to the barbecue and meets Jess. Their conversation was so respectful. I don't find anything wrong with it. Jess is incredible.

[23:12] Tommy Bracco: Alright, but she had a hard time because he gave her the awkward hug.

[23:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: And actually just commented, I did go to shake his hand.

[23:21] Tommy Bracco: And you know, not my fault.

[23:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Great conversation, right?

[23:27] Tommy Bracco: He was not recapping.

[23:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: Chelsea gets to talk to Trevor, and that isn't appropriate.

[23:32] Phil Bracco: Yes, a hundred percent.

[23:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[23:34] Phil Bracco: But she's only doing it because she's trying to feel good because she's so insecure.

[23:39] Tommy Bracco: And she probably knows that Jimmy doesn't love her.

[23:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, probably she probably feels so good.

[23:43] Phil Bracco: But maybe he does.

[23:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Maybe we're just wrong and she's just insecure.

[23:46] Tommy Bracco: My last thing is Johnny.

[23:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: His discussion of birth control is cringy.

[23:52] Phil Bracco: No, we were when we were cracking out.

[23:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Did you ever watch The Office?

[23:55] Phil Bracco: Snip Snap Snip Snap when they're talking about the um what is it called?

[24:00] Tommy Bracco: The vasectomy?

[24:02] Phil Bracco: Uh oh.

[24:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was great.

[24:04] Phil Bracco: Like him, I he.

[24:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know if he's just scared that condoms aren't enough, but I wish they would address the condom thing because everyone's saying, like, why aren't you bringing up condoms?

[24:16] Phil Bracco: Like, why isn't that a form of birth control?

[24:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know.

[24:20] Phil Bracco: Like, why aren't you talking about that?

[24:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel like they wanted to follow them as a couple, but there was no drama, so they're just trying to create something about the vasectomy again.

[24:33] Phil Bracco: Did you see how uncomfortable he was talking about it?

[24:36] Anjelica Vispisiano: I mean, it was crazy.

[24:38] Phil Bracco: But like, I guess you could be uncomfortable about it because he probably can't talk about it as much as he wants to.

[24:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: And I don't remember if it was this conversation, but there was somewhere someone told me something along the lines of that they had.

[24:51] Tommy Bracco: Oh no, this was about um Brittany and Kenneth.

[24:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: Was that his name?

[24:57] Phil Bracco: Yep.

[24:57] Anjelica Vispisiano: They had the breakup off camera.

[25:00] Phil Bracco: So they made them do it again on camera.

[25:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: And that's why it looked so weird.

[25:07] Phil Bracco: I mean, still you you could act a little more into it and you don't have to go on your phone and be so.

[25:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: That was so weird.

[25:13] Phil Bracco: Weird, but I'm so happy he didn't get any more airtime.

[25:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: I wish Britney was at the party, but I respect her space.

[25:19] Phil Bracco: Yeah, why wasn't she at the party?

[25:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, it was weird.

[25:21] Phil Bracco: I mean, she probably went through something really traumatic.

[25:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: She like fell in love, thought she was gonna have this amazing marriage, cut comes out on top, number one couple, they come home and they are the first to break up.

[25:30] Phil Bracco: Like that was probably really hard for her.

[25:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, you're right.

[25:32] Phil Bracco: Especially with like her religion and stuff.

[25:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's like I gave myself a I gave a part of myself to this man by just saying yes to the engagement.

[25:40] Phil Bracco: She probably really feels very hurt and very sad.

[25:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, you're right.

[25:44] Phil Bracco: Um, so I could see her just wanting nothing to do with it.

[25:48] Anjelica Vispisiano: You know what I would I would love for them to do?

[25:51] Phil Bracco: A love is blind singles season where like they bring people back, like an all stars essentially.

[25:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[25:58] Phil Bracco: I feel like that'd be so fun.

[26:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because I would love to see so many of these people come back again.

[26:03] Phil Bracco: Yeah, that would be.

[26:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, we thought they were doing that this season with the girl Taylor, but it turns out it was just a commercial for Love is Wine.

[26:10] Phil Bracco: Right.

[26:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yep.

[26:11] Phil Bracco: Watch Joey.

[26:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, but then it's not blind.

[26:14] Phil Bracco: You're right.

[26:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: I do agree with that.

[26:17] Phil Bracco: Well, I think we can all agree that love is not blind.

[26:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, I've said that since day one.

[26:22] Phil Bracco: Love physical looks mean something.

[26:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's not that.

[26:26] Phil Bracco: I just also feel like it's not love is blind.

[26:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: They're wearing blindfolds and they're meeting at a bar in a casual setting and then going home to their places.

[26:35] Phil Bracco: They're not them.

[26:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know if they they're not themselves in real life, which is 24-7 for the rest of your life, or they're not them real subs in the pod, but it is two different people you're dealing with.

[26:46] Phil Bracco: 100%.

[26:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's two different realities and two different people.

[26:49] Phil Bracco: So I don't I don't think love is not blind, but I think that this experiment doesn't necessarily work because no, you can make a connection without a doubt.

[26:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think it could work, but it doesn't always work.

[27:01] Phil Bracco: But when you see them most of the time, it doesn't work.

[27:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: But when you see them, I'm sorry.

[27:06] Phil Bracco: If you're not attracted, you're not attracted.

[27:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, you also do have to have that attraction.

[27:09] Phil Bracco: I think it's an initial attraction.

[27:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think once you get to know somebody, their looks change.

[27:13] Phil Bracco: I mean, I know it happens just with even like friends all the time, like just people, random people that I know.

[27:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like I feel like people's looks change so much in my eye once I get to know them.

[27:23] Phil Bracco: Yeah, a hundred.

[27:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: It happens even with the bachelorette contestants.

[27:26] Phil Bracco: Every year I'm like, oh, none of these girls are pretty, none of these guys are hot.

[27:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then I'm watching the show and I'm like, oh my God, every single person is gorgeous.

[27:32] Phil Bracco: Isn't that so funny?

[27:33] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's so crazy once you get to know people.

[27:35] Phil Bracco: That is like a wild thing.

[27:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: I've thought about this before too.

[27:38] Phil Bracco: Like that is truly mind blowing to me.

[27:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: How a person's physical appearance can change in your eye based on their personality and how you feel about them.

[27:48] Phil Bracco: Remember to be a few things.

[27:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: Literally nobody uglier.

[27:53] Phil Bracco: If you really from season one.

[27:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: From was it from season one?

[27:57] Phil Bracco: Yeah, when she has that.

[27:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, her.

[28:00] Phil Bracco: I like to nobody uglier.

[28:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, I don't know if she was from season one, was she?

[28:05] Phil Bracco: One or two, I forget.

[28:06] Anjelica Vispisiano: You know, one of the things I say is that when you work with somebody, the most affairs thought at work.

[28:11] Phil Bracco: Oh no, maybe it was three.

[28:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: Sorry, what were you saying?

[28:14] Phil Bracco: Uh people say that most affairs start at work because you get to know them.

[28:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: This one working with them every day.

[28:20] Phil Bracco: Like, yeah, she's a normal-looking girl.

[28:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: To me, ugliest human on the planet.

[28:24] Phil Bracco: Yeah, because you hate her personality.

[28:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right, anyway, continue.

[28:28] Phil Bracco: No, that that was that was basically what I was saying.

[28:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, okay.

[28:32] Phil Bracco: Great.

[28:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[28:35] Phil Bracco: So who were you rooting for?

[28:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Which couples?

[28:38] Phil Bracco: Um really.

[28:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, Amy and Johnny.

[28:41] Phil Bracco: Yeah, maybe.

[28:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Amy and Johnny.

[28:44] Phil Bracco: He's gotta get over the birth control thing, though.

[28:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think I think he just needs to wear a condom, and if he wants extra protection, wear a condom and pull out.

[28:53] Phil Bracco: Like, that's it.

[28:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: There's really no change.

[28:56] Phil Bracco: And don't have sex with her on her two ovulation days.

[28:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: You'll be good to go.

[29:00] Phil Bracco: You're doing three foolproof ways.

[29:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, that's it.

[29:02] Phil Bracco: Well, it's hey, you don't need a vasectomy.

[29:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: She doesn't need to be on birth control.

[29:06] Phil Bracco: Like, it's just ridiculous.

[29:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's it.

[29:09] Phil Bracco: That was funny.

[29:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right.

[29:12] Phil Bracco: Uh, wanna do the challenge or the traitors first?

[29:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, I forgot about the traders.

[29:17] Phil Bracco: Um, the traitors.

[29:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right.

[29:19] Phil Bracco: Phaedra is finally gone.

[29:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Phaedra's finally gone.

[29:22] Phil Bracco: As much as I loved Phaedra, I couldn't wait for them to figure out that she was a traitor.

[29:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: But her speech was so unsatisfying.

[29:30] Phil Bracco: It like ruins it.

[29:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know.

[29:32] Phil Bracco: Like she was like, I'm uh something something faithful.

[29:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: We were like, everybody was like a little confused, like it like took away the shock.

[29:40] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[29:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: Faithful traitor.

[29:41] Phil Bracco: Like, what does that mean?

[29:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, it was weird.

[29:43] Phil Bracco: You know what it was?

[29:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: She was done.

[29:45] Phil Bracco: She the pressure was exhausted.

[29:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: She had no fight left in her, and I do not blame her.

[29:49] Phil Bracco: Those hours are no joke.

[29:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: She is up at that castle while everyone is sleeping, filming these traitor scenes.

[29:56] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[29:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: And then waking up three hours later and doing it all over again.

[30:00] Phil Bracco: Oh my god.

[30:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Like, I truly don't know how the traitors do it.

[30:02] Phil Bracco: No, that's exhausting.

[30:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[30:04] Phil Bracco: I don't know how they do it.

[30:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's so bad.

[30:07] Phil Bracco: So I don't blame her for being tired at all.

[30:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, she gave up.

[30:11] Phil Bracco: She had no fighting.

[30:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: She didn't fight.

[30:13] Phil Bracco: She had tears and rockets.

[30:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: She had five fought.

[30:15] Phil Bracco: Like it was the what is it?

[30:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Jig was up?

[30:18] Phil Bracco: Gig?

[30:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, the jig is up.

[30:21] Phil Bracco: I do wish that they would have left her in the game.

[30:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: And um who was saying it?

[30:29] Phil Bracco: They were like, we should vote.

[30:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, Kate said it.

[30:32] Phil Bracco: Kate said we should not, since we know that Phaedra's a traitor, we should wait and try and target somebody else tonight because we may not get this opportunity again to be it around here.

[30:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: But she's the other trader.

[30:44] Phil Bracco: But at the end, it's basically one joint banishment table until you all agree to win the game.

[30:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: So you can all banish whoever you want.

[30:51] Phil Bracco: Like you might as well go into that final banishment knowing who a traitor is and use the banishment table as an opportunity to try and like uncover another trader.

[31:03] Anjelica Vispisiano: I don't know.

[31:03] Phil Bracco: So I wish that they would have done that.

[31:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: I just feel like these people don't think sometimes.

[31:08] Phil Bracco: And it drives me nuts.

[31:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Kate messed herself up.

[31:10] Phil Bracco: Yeah, she didn't know.

[31:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: She did mess herself.

[31:12] Phil Bracco: She did mess herself up.

[31:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: I feel like she thought she was setting herself up to like not be attached to Phaedra, but it like winded up backfiring.

[31:20] Phil Bracco: It did, it did.

[31:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: Trishelle's so smart.

[31:21] Phil Bracco: Trishelle's thinking.

[31:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love Trishelle.

[31:25] Phil Bracco: She really grew on me.

[31:26] Anjelica Vispisiano: I did not like her in the beginning of the season.

[31:28] Phil Bracco: Now I'm obsessed with her.

[31:29] Anjelica Vispisiano: If you look, the only two people that did well in that challenge were the challenge people.

[31:33] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[31:34] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[31:39] Phil Bracco: I love CT so much.

[31:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: He's just a great person.

[31:39] Phil Bracco: Oh, I love CT so much.

[31:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: I hope he is in.

[31:41] Phil Bracco: I have faith that the Faithfuls are gonna win this season, and I hope he is in that group of faithfuls that win.

[31:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because I love to see.

[31:46] Phil Bracco: I agree with you.

[31:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think that the faithfuls are gonna win.

[31:50] Phil Bracco: I think it's gonna be him, Sandra, Trishelle.

[31:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's it.

[31:55] Phil Bracco: That's it.

[31:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think those are winners.

[31:58] Phil Bracco: Oh, and MJ.

[31:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[31:59] Phil Bracco: I I I don't know.

[32:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: I really felt for MJ.

[32:05] Phil Bracco: When she realized Phaedra was.

[32:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, yeah.

[32:09] Phil Bracco: Even um with that irrelevant one.

[32:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: What's her name?

[32:14] Phil Bracco: Sheree.

[32:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Share.

[32:15] Phil Bracco: Sheree.

[32:16] Anjelica Vispisiano: Shre whatever.

[32:16] Phil Bracco: Sheree felt very hurt because she acts uh but your traders can't tell you I'm a trader.

[32:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: It's in the trader contract, so the traders are not allowed to say I'm a trader.

[32:27] Phil Bracco: I honestly don't love that they put so many Bravo people on it.

[32:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: I wish that like I think that Bravo people bring a funness to it.

[32:36] Phil Bracco: Like Phaedra was literally.

[32:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, but it just they just get all the gamers out at the end.

[32:40] Phil Bracco: Essentially, and then just keep the floaters.

[32:42] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[32:42] Phil Bracco: Like bay what what are MJ and Sheree?

[32:45] Anjelica Vispisiano: They're floaters that are now in the end.

[32:47] Phil Bracco: Yes.

[32:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: And it's frustrating to watch them.

[32:50] Phil Bracco: I don't think MJ's a floater because she really when she got it, she is I'm starting to like her, but she is a floater.

[32:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: I love her, but she's a floater.

[32:57] Phil Bracco: She a hundred percent.

[32:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's not playing the game.

[32:59] Phil Bracco: She is now when she was walking in the room was so iconic.

[32:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Walking in the room.

[33:04] Phil Bracco: When she walked in the room was like, Hey, can I talk to you guys?

[33:07] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was totally giving it, Debbie.

[33:08] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah.

[33:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: It was amazing.

[33:10] Phil Bracco: Hey, can I do you guys?

[33:12] Anjelica Vispisiano: And they were like, uh, just give us a second.

[33:13] Phil Bracco: She's like the the standing there.

[33:15] Anjelica Vispisiano: Why got two arms down.

[33:17] Phil Bracco: No, it was so funny.

[33:19] Anjelica Vispisiano: I do really like her, but I just think that she is a floater also.

[33:22] Phil Bracco: Okay.

[33:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right.

[33:24] Phil Bracco: I think they need less Bravo people, more gamers.

[33:27] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because they make decisions, you I don't know.

[33:32] Phil Bracco: I just feel like they make decisions that are so obviously dumb, and you're like, uh, how did they fall for that?

[33:38] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[33:39] Phil Bracco: Well, because they really believe Phaedra.

[33:41] Anjelica Vispisiano: They really believed her, and it took a while for her to get it, and when she got it, it was like the end of the world.

[33:47] Phil Bracco: Her and the other girl.

[33:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, like they was like the end of the world.

[33:53] Phil Bracco: They were like, I can't I can't believe this.

[33:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: I know.

[33:56] Phil Bracco: I saw that they're filming season three in May.

[33:59] Anjelica Vispisiano: Of his traders.

[34:00] Phil Bracco: Mm-hmm.

[34:00] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[34:01] Phil Bracco: I saw that on Twitter.

[34:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: I can't wait to see who the cast is.

[34:04] Phil Bracco: So what's got to happen is the people from Big Brother, they can't target each other.

[34:11] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[34:12] Phil Bracco: It was ridiculous that they targeted each other.

[34:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: And the challenge they're great.

[34:16] Phil Bracco: The challenge people are great in this.

[34:18] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah.

[34:18] Phil Bracco: I'm really excited to see how the game evolves because this season we saw for the first time that faithfuls don't necessarily want to attack the traders if they know that they're traders.

[34:31] Anjelica Vispisiano: They want to keep them around.

[34:33] Phil Bracco: It's it's more a numbers game.

[34:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Because they're gonna just pick another trader, then they were gonna recruit people, and then you're back to square one.

[34:41] Phil Bracco: And Ari, they picked them way too late in the game.

[34:43] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[34:44] Phil Bracco: Then it's no there was no need to go to a third trader.

[34:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[34:47] Phil Bracco: That's season one though.

[34:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: I understand, but that this time they picked Kate, right? Because they the reason they picked Kate because they went down to two.

[34:56] Phil Bracco: Right.

[34:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: And they knew the other traders. They knew them. So I think it's I'm really interested to see how the game evolves. I was listening to Elvis Duran this morning. They held um like a little uh like public thing, and it was people had to call in and text in and vote and tell them what shows to watch, and their favorite shows right now Traders came in number one with Love is Blind and number two.

[35:21] Phil Bracco: Wow and Abbott Elementary number three.

[35:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Holy shit. So many people. I was driving drawn to the airport, and so all callers were like, You have to watch the Traders, it's so good. One caller called in and was like, you have to watch the Traders, it's so good, but make sure you go back and watch season one because season one was um like regular people mixed in, and the regular people felt like the celebrities didn't deserve to be playing a game for money against them when they're all well off.

[35:50] Phil Bracco: So she was like, it makes for a really interesting dynamic. I wish like they would have done that more.

[35:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's why there's no regular people now. Yeah. Um, but so yeah, traders is doing great. I do want them to do two seasons a year, one with regular people, one with reality people.

[36:07] Phil Bracco: Who are they gonna pick from Big Brother? Who are they gonna pick from these shades? I can't wait to see the next new case.

[36:13] Anjelica Vispisiano: I actually feel like they're gonna start to pick more celebrities because this season was such a big hit.

[36:17] Phil Bracco: Oh my god, they're gonna be.

[36:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Survivor people are gonna be brought in. No, I'm what I'm saying is they already got the cream of the crop when it comes to reality.

[36:27] Phil Bracco: Yeah.

[36:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: How are they gonna outdo themselves? They're gonna have to get it's gonna be like a dancing with the stars situation, is what I'm saying. Like I don't think that it's gonna be reality people anymore. Which is really genius. Like, why has nobody ever thought of this prior? Like dancing with the stores, but like a game competition. Like, yes.

[36:45] Phil Bracco: So I really think that's the direction that's gonna move in. I think we're gonna see people like I don't know, like Adam Lambert, maybe, or someone like someone crazy.

[36:54] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, like people from shows in the past that like. But you're Billy Eilish on the Traders.

[36:59] Phil Bracco: No, but I really could see it. That's the crazy part. I could see it. I really couldn't.

[37:04] Anjelica Vispisiano: I would do a Leepa.

[37:07] Phil Bracco: Oh my god. I think of all A-listers. We should come up with a Jennifer Aniston, like an A-list cast of the Traders.

[37:14] Anjelica Vispisiano: Or like Adam Sandler has to be in it.

[37:17] Phil Bracco: Oh, yeah, that would be amazing. All right, let's think of that for the next time. I think that's what's gonna happen.

[37:22] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, he wants to lock us in on something.

[37:24] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Um, all right. What's going on with the boat trip? Let's hear about this.

[37:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: The cruise.

[37:31] Phil Bracco: The cruise. Oh, the cruise. Sorry, I was texting. Um, yeah, so what about it? What's going on? Let's hear us. Give us some more updates.

[37:39] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, I don't have official updates yet, but um they're they're in I don't know if I'm allowed to say it. I mean, I I know it's been said. You don't have to yes or no, you don't have to say it. There are talks that they're expanding in the group and adding new people.

[37:56] Phil Bracco: Yes, there's talks of bringing new people on. There's talks of being teams being made, and so it can get very, very even more exciting than it already is.

[38:05] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right. Yeah, that's it. So we gotta get some of our listeners to to uh get on this.

[38:12] Phil Bracco: Yeah, so it's so funny. Oh my gosh. That would be amazing. Really? If anybody's interested in coming on this cruise with us, yeah, please like DM us, let us know, and uh you can come on and play the traders with us.

[38:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's what's gonna happen. I think it would be awesome. It's gonna be a lot it's gonna be a lot of fun, and I just think it's a unique experience that not everybody gets to do. They have the the set builders from Big Brother from all the competition reality shows coming in and building the competition sets for this cruise.

[38:42] Phil Bracco: So it's gonna be legit. It's gonna be a really, really cool experience. So and if anyone's interested, let us know. Message us.

[38:49] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, and if they message you, you can you can give them the friends and family, right?

[38:53] Phil Bracco: Yeah, yeah. So yeah, we can help our phone. So that's it. Team Angelica is winning.

[39:01] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. Um, and now we forgot about the challenge.

[39:04] Phil Bracco: No, I want I I'm ready to go with the challenge. I'm done. Hurry up.

[39:08] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right. So Emanuel wins, right? Congrats.

[39:11] Phil Bracco: All right. Here's the deal. There's a controversy. Because Colleen does the Seduco and he copies the whole thing. So now they're calling him a cheater. And he's like, I mean, he goes, Did I look? Yes. But there's no rules since I can't look. You're supposed to knock it down. Right?

[39:30] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right.

[39:32] Phil Bracco: So uh Naurice is like, she tweeted that she's really is the winner.

[39:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh shit. She did.

[39:39] Phil Bracco: Yeah. She's like, I I first off, there's everybody on this on the crowd said it should have been a boy and a girl winner.

[39:46] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah, yeah. Nerice got robbed. I I feel Naurice got robbed. She killed it this season. She deserves that win.

[39:52] Phil Bracco: Yeah, she did. Yeah. I'm obsessed with Harena.

[39:56] Anjelica Vispisiano: I think Horacio.

[39:57] Phil Bracco: Yeah, Horacio. Um, you know what I'm saying? I actually feel like when people think back to this season, battle for a new champion. I actually think that they're gonna picture it being her season.

[40:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh, a hundred percent. I don't think that it's like Emmanuel won't be. Do you know how much I've watched the challenge this season with John? I probably watched, let's say there was 20 episodes. I probably watched 17 of them. I do not even know what Emmanuel looks like.

[40:23] Phil Bracco: Right. He like wasn't on the show.

[40:25] Anjelica Vispisiano: No, I actually don't know what he looks like. Like I can't picture him in my head.

[40:28] Phil Bracco: Yeah, I mean, I listen, I can't, I can't give anything bad about him because he did perform well in the finals.

[40:35] Anjelica Vispisiano: Right, but he didn't go into dailies or into the water.

[40:38] Phil Bracco: Yeah, but isn't that part of the game?

[40:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's part of the game. And and the way he did it, and he became Jay's right-hand man.

[40:44] Phil Bracco: Right. I mean, he did a great job. I can't say nothing again.

[40:47] Anjelica Vispisiano: Totally. Um, the reunion was a lot of fun, lots of drama. Lots of drama. You had the two chihuahuas. I baked tea, that was hilarious. Colleen calling uh Michelle desperate, but not knowing what desperate meant. Hilarious. There was a lot of funny things that went on. I felt bad for Corey. He was trying to talk. I mean, the way he did it was really fucked up, so I don't feel bad for him.

[41:11] Phil Bracco: But they are trying to apologize. They wouldn't let him talk. And then he go, then he said something. He goes, I They go, you can't talk the woman out. He goes, I'll talk to you anyway. I want to talk to you. Because he was mad at that point.

[41:23] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um Olivia, she kind of got caught, right? She turned around, she told Anissa that I'm not really friends with Norese, and after the show, I'm gonna I'm gonna probably backstab her. Now I mean, just why? Like my question is just why. Like, if if this person's a good friend to you, I just don't get the point.

[41:44] Phil Bracco: She's like, I don't really like her, right? Tells this to Nisa, Nisa now starts hooking up with Norese's brother. A little bit of pillow talk, tells him.

[41:51] Anjelica Vispisiano: A little bit of pillow talk.

[41:56] Phil Bracco: He then tells her that's what it's called.

[41:58] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Because me and John gossip in bed every single night. That's essentially pillow talk.

[42:02] Phil Bracco: Yeah. I never put the two and two together. Like that. That's what that phrase means.

[42:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Like gossip with somebody you're with. And then what happens? They get into the thing, and then she does backstabber. Doing an Annabelle do pillow talk?

[42:19] Phil Bracco: Uh yeah, but we don't have to do it in the in the bed. She's usually sleeping by the time I get up there.

[42:24] Anjelica Vispisiano: Well, I think it's a good one. So they do pillow talks too. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. But wait, isn't it just a phrase? Like, how do you know that Anise, Anisa and Olivia's brother were physically in bed when he said it?

[42:37] Phil Bracco: They said that they were in bed when she gave him this info.

[42:40] Anjelica Vispisiano: There's no home.

[42:42] Phil Bracco: So it was actually pillow talk.

[42:44] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yeah. Yeah, they did say it.

[42:46] Phil Bracco: Oh my goodness. So you and Annabelle don't talk in bed. Once you're in bed, that's it, no speaking.

[42:52] Anjelica Vispisiano: She's usually sleeping by the time I go upstairs. Because I like to watch.

[42:58] Phil Bracco: Most likely, no. We would pillow talk down here.

[43:02] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's just regular talking.

[43:05] Phil Bracco: That's just talking. Whenever he leaves in here, usually I gotta apologize about something.

[43:10] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh typical. Did you have to apologize yesterday for your outbursts?

[43:15] Phil Bracco: Uh uh yeah, a little bit.

[43:17] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um a little bit?

[43:18] Phil Bracco: Yeah. Because you're uh Grinch.

[43:21] Anjelica Vispisiano: All right. Um I gotta ask you. Was the subject so bad? Was Amanda on?

[43:31] Phil Bracco: He doesn't want people to know that they're unwanted. That's great. Amanda on this year's um show.

[43:37] Anjelica Vispisiano: Um what are you saying? This show, right? He's so distracted by me. He's so worried I'm gonna say he knows that there's nothing. I think I got asked question. Amanda.

[43:47] Phil Bracco: It's been on real. I got two other things. I got it's it's I want to ask about your Broadway show.

[43:55] Anjelica Vispisiano: Oh okay, I'm putting my headphones back on. I just want to ask you, was Amanda on this year on this um bat first new new battle.

[44:03] Phil Bracco: So you don't want to talk about the I do. I'm asking a question about Amanda.

[44:09] Anjelica Vispisiano: Amanda's the nurse. With the freckles. What are you talking about? Was she on this year?

[44:17] Phil Bracco: Woo! Where? Can you talk about the challenge?

[44:20] Anjelica Vispisiano: Yes. Amanda was not on this show.

[44:22] Phil Bracco: Okay, she should have been on, though. She hasn't won before. She should have been on. Wait a second. What does it have to do with Thomas's show?

[44:28] Anjelica Vispisiano: That's why I put my headphones back on. I I wanted to finish that statement. Now I want to ask you how's your show coming up?

[44:39] Tommy Bracco: The show is great, Dad. Thank you so much. Thanks for asking me. I'm working very hard. And I still have to do the payroll. But this feels like the hardest you've ever worked in your life. Why does it feel so intense? Truly.

[44:51] Tommy Bracco: It is. It's really the dancing in this show is harder than newzies. It's harder than pretty woman. It's really the hardest dancing I've ever done in my life. And I'm the oldest I've ever been. And it's it's that's crazy.

[45:02] Phil Bracco: Do you feel like that has something to do with it?

[45:04] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, definitely. Wow. Like I'm hurting, like my shoulders hurt. I every night when I go to sleep, I don't sleep in a good position. I wake up more sore. Like I wake up like I slept wrong. It's so weird.

[45:17] Phil Bracco: Wow, that's weird.

[45:18] Tommy Bracco: Yeah, but it's tough work, but it's it's paying off. It's good. It's a really good thing. So we gotta get people to go see the show. We want to keep it running. It's it's gonna be really good. I think it's gonna run. Everybody doesn't know it's Yui Lewis music.

[45:32] Phil Bracco: Yes. He's one of my favorite bands, Yui Lewis. You're can't wait to meet it on the news.

[45:36] Tommy Bracco: Yep. I know you're you'll meet him. He calls me Sleepy Tommy Brocco.

[45:41] Phil Bracco: Why?

[45:42] Tommy Bracco: Because I'm the opposite of Sleepy, because I'm always so energetic. That's like crazy. He's like oh sleepy Tommy Bracco.

[45:50] Anjelica Vispisiano: Aw, that's so cute.

[45:51] Phil Bracco: Yeah that is cute. Um is Cruz in in the show?

[45:55] Tommy Bracco: You know it's not actually I'm very I'm very sad about that. I think it's it had to do with the rights thing because Gwyneth Paltro sings on that song with him and I bet that they couldn't get the rights.

[46:06] Phil Bracco: I bet it wasn't just his okay yeah because I I love I sang that with um with Christy and they did a great job in that so I was looking forward to seeing that.

[46:15] Tommy Bracco: So sorry yeah you won't see that one.