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[0:00] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Today on Support for This Podcast.

[0:03] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Interestingly, I think this phrase, again, we just need to only go back to the phrase.

[0:10] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: It's not saying to work extremely hard.

[0:13] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: It's not saying to work yourself into a pulp.

[0:17] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: It's saying work hard.

[0:19] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah.

[0:20] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: And do that.

[0:21] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: And do do that.

[0:22] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Uh-huh.

[0:22] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Honestly.

[0:22] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Truly.

[0:23] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yes.

[0:23] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Work hard.

[0:24] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah.

[0:24] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: And play hard.

[0:25] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Right.

[0:26] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: But nothing to any extreme.

[0:28] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: We speak to Tripp Crickett, the great nephew of the man who coined the phrase, work hard, play hard.

[0:35] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: We'll find out his ideal work-to-play ratio, as well as what excites him about his job as a Tupperware designer.

[0:42] Tripp Crickett: I'll tell you, I've created a line where every single base fits inside the larger base, but instead of just the one lid sealing over the larger lid, all of the smaller lids also seal within each of the larger containers.

[0:58] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Join us, won't you? I'm Emily Amy Lauren Becca, and this is Support for This Podcast.

[1:16] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Hi everyone, and welcome to Support for This Podcast.

[1:19] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: We're thrilled to be here with the one and only Tripp Crickett.

[1:24] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Now, some of you may recognize that name, some of you may not, but uh Tripp, why don't you start off by telling us what your family's known for? What what's your claim to fame?

[1:33] Tripp Crickett: Well, uh it isn't really a it's hard because I don't want to take personal ownership over it. Um but my great uncle, uh he invented the phrase work hard, play hard, which I'm sure all of your listeners are very familiar with.

[1:50] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh my goodness.

[1:51] Tripp Crickett: Yeah, yeah.

[1:52] Tripp Crickett: Wow. He's an inspirational figure for a lot of reasons, but um it's it's been challenging and also really thrilling to uh to carry on.

[2:02] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: To be his his great nephew?

[2:05] Tripp Crickett: That's correct, yeah.

[2:06] Tripp Crickett: Yeah.

[2:07] Tripp Crickett: It's kinda nice that phrase great nephew, it's like it sounds like um a compliment.

[2:12] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure.

[2:12] Tripp Crickett: No, yeah, great in in more ways than one.

[2:14] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Right.

[2:15] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Exactly. Who knows? He could have thought of you as his average great nephew.

[2:19] Tripp Crickett: I don't think so.

[2:20] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh.

[2:20] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: So what what was his name?

[2:22] Tripp Crickett: Uh his name was Mark. Um he his name is not cricket, actually. Uh he married in uh he married into our family.

[2:31] Tripp Crickett: So he so just to clarify, he took your aunt's last name. Your grandmother's grandmother's last name.

[2:37] Tripp Crickett: That's right.

[2:38] Tripp Crickett: That's right. That's interesting.

[2:39] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yes, she well, she would have been the last of our the cricket family's uh children and was only a daughter.

[2:48] Tripp Crickett: So in order to keep the cricket name alive, he very selflessly he had three brothers, he very selflessly gave up his surname.

[2:56] Tripp Crickett: Um took the name cricket, right.

[2:59] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Unless he was running from a crime or something and didn't want to be tracked down.

[3:03] Tripp Crickett: Mm-hmm.

[3:04] Tripp Crickett: He had a complicated uh uh past.

[3:08] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh.

[3:09] Tripp Crickett: But he was a good man at his core, I believe.

[3:13] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure. Now now do you know um do you know the origin story? How did he first uh come up with the phrase work hard, play hard?

[3:20] Tripp Crickett: Well, uh it it is pretty much just as it sounds. He he was a an extremely hard worker. He was known for his work ethic and also uh like to play just as hard.

[3:30] Tripp Crickett: Oh and uh when people used to criticize how much he used to play, he he would often say, You can play this hard as long as you work as hard as I do.

[3:40] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah.

[3:40] Tripp Crickett: Which doesn't really roll off the tongue and eventually became condensed into play this hard if you work this hard, and then you know, over time it got shortened and swapped and and has now since become sort of a very foundational American ideal, I think.

[3:57] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yes, yes. I think everyone can agree.

[3:59] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Right. And you know, this wasn't ever licensed in any official way. So when people assume that I'm some sort of heir to the work hard play hard fortune, yeah, I have to correct them that in fact there is no fortune to be claimed.

[4:12] Tripp Crickett: But there is personal wealth in knowing that I'm part of the family line that has inspired so many, uh so many people.

[4:19] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah, I don't I don't have any relatives who've coined a phrase.

[4:22] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: I'm so sorry.

[4:24] Tripp Crickett: My husband's family, um he doesn't have that either.

[4:28] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh, he doesn't?

[4:28] Tripp Crickett: No. He he's lacking in a few areas.

[4:31] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh, is he?

[4:32] Tripp Crickett: Mm-hmm.

[4:32] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Um now, okay, so you're not you're not able to be an heir to the the throne, you're not a Hilton or something, for instance.

[4:41] Tripp Crickett: Um it's too bad that they didn't have Etsy or um those little t-shirts that say like I'd rather be with my dog or something.

[4:48] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Because if that were the case.

[4:49] Tripp Crickett: Yeah, if it had even just been printed once, I think you'd you'd have some sort of lofty claim there.

[4:55] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Right, right. It's too bad that that wasn't happening.

[4:57] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Now now let me ask you this.

[4:59] Tripp Crickett: Yeah.

[4:59] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Is it something that you I know that we're talking about it freely, but is it something that you reveal to people? Do you do you kind of keep it to yourself and then eventually once you trust someone, do you let them know? Is it something you'd say on a first date, for example?

[5:12] Tripp Crickett: Well, uh, I have often been accused of working a little too hard and not playing hard enough. So uh it is a little complicated for me because I feel like I lead by example because I find my work very playful as well.

[5:29] Tripp Crickett: So I think I sort of kill two birds with one stone.

[5:32] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: And and what is it you do?

[5:33] Tripp Crickett: I designed Tupperware.

[5:36] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Wow.

[5:37] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: That's fabulous.

[5:39] Tripp Crickett: Thank you.

[5:40] Tripp Crickett: And I think an uh you must agree, uh quite quite playful.

[5:44] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah.

[5:44] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Well, um sure.

[5:48] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Is are the are there unconventional shapes? Are there conventional Tupperware shapes?

[5:54] Tripp Crickett: Um, yeah. I'd say that. At this point there are.

[5:57] Tripp Crickett: Oh.

[5:57] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: But have there always been?

[5:59] Tripp Crickett: Well, um, I guess not.

[6:03] Tripp Crickett: The first Tupperware would have been.

[6:05] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Right.

[6:05] Tripp Crickett: I guess back in the day they wouldn't have stored much at all. Just one shape.

[6:10] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Right.

[6:10] Tripp Crickett: Or just one color.

[6:12] Tripp Crickett: Eat this this animal's leg before it expires.

[6:16] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure.

[6:16] Tripp Crickett: That also.

[6:17] Tripp Crickett: Um and then maybe eventually it would be I don't know, I'm just picturing burlap sacks full of things.

[6:24] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah, and the food doesn't hold very well.

[6:26] Tripp Crickett: No.

[6:26] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: In burlap.

[6:27] Tripp Crickett: No.

[6:27] Tripp Crickett: So it's it's both sort of scientific, but also I I believe very artful.

[6:32] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure.

[6:33] Tripp Crickett: I do I do derive a certain kind of satisfaction organizing my Tupperware.

[6:39] Tripp Crickett: Sometimes I can't find a certain lid and it really wow, the rage it comes out then.

[6:45] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: The from you?

[6:46] Tripp Crickett: Mm-hmm.

[6:47] Tripp Crickett: You get very rageful.

[6:49] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Well, where's that lid?

[6:50] Tripp Crickett: Where is it?

[6:50] Tripp Crickett: I'll tell you.

[6:51] Tripp Crickett: Where did he put it?

[6:52] Tripp Crickett: I I have cre who My Oh I'm sorry. Um well, uh I'll tell you I've created a line where every single base fits inside the larger base, but instead of just the one lid sealing over the larger lid, all of the smaller lids also seal within each of the larger containers.

[7:13] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh my oh my gosh.

[7:14] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: It's like it's like a kangaroo carrying a baby in its papoos.

[7:18] Tripp Crickett: It's exactly like that. And that's sort of how I explained it to uh my general manager who has not come to appreciate the idea as much as I have, which is why these haven't seen the light of day.

[7:28] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh.

[7:29] Tripp Crickett: Um, but they are stunning and uh streamlined and uh extremely satisfying.

[7:35] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Wow.

[7:35] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: It sounds like maybe you work harder than you play.

[7:39] Tripp Crickett: That's right.

[7:40] Tripp Crickett: Um well that's how it seems to to many outsiders.

[7:43] Tripp Crickett: And I and I would insist that I'm getting a healthy dose of both sides of that in my work.

[7:49] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure.

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[8:46] Tripp Crickett: If people don't know about your great uncle, do you mention it? Or do you just kind of if it comes up if someone says, What are you doing Saturday night? and you say, Oh, I'll be doing a seventh rendering of my latest Tupperware, and and they'll say, Ugh Ugh, trip, you just you know, work hard, play hard, emphasis on play.

[9:02] Tripp Crickett: Right, right.

[9:04] Tripp Crickett: Well, my closest friends uh they do like to sort of raz me about about my uh my work ethic. But I think they know uh the satisfaction that I get out of that.

[9:14] Tripp Crickett: And I th I think I play a little a little bit.

[9:17] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure.

[9:17] Tripp Crickett: From time to time, I think I I make my way out on the town and I find some fun things to do from time to time.

[9:26] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah.

[9:26] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Well, and sometimes sometimes our friends can see us more truthfully than we even realize.

[9:30] Tripp Crickett: Exactly right.

[9:31] Tripp Crickett: They can shine a mirror and show us things that we um That you wouldn't have even seen yourself.

[9:36] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Didn't want to see.

[9:37] Tripp Crickett: Or didn't want to see, sure.

[9:39] Tripp Crickett: Definitely didn't want to see.

[9:41] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Is that about my my playfulness? Because I think that my friends do think that I play hard.

[9:47] Tripp Crickett: I think that they're not gonna be.

[9:48] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah, no, I wasn't talking about you.

[9:50] Tripp Crickett: Oh.

[9:51] Tripp Crickett: But I'm sure you have very supportive friends.

[9:53] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: I do.

[9:54] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Is there someone else in your life?

[9:55] Tripp Crickett: I I I do have somebody. It's it's sort of new, so I don't want to talk about it.

[9:59] Tripp Crickett: But you know, yeah, keep it to yourself, don't share.

[10:01] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh.

[10:02] Tripp Crickett: I mean tell tell me about it.

[10:04] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh, okay. Uh well, you know how it is in the d in the dawning age of relationships when everything is so exciting and the the possibilities are so endless.

[10:13] Tripp Crickett: I just I I'm I'm really excited about about it at this moment, but I'd rather not uh discuss it.

[10:18] Tripp Crickett: Just in you know, I don't want to get ahead of myself.

[10:20] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure.

[10:21] Tripp Crickett: In case she's listening, I don't I don't know.

[10:23] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Right, right, right, right, right, right.

[10:24] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Well hopefully she is.

[10:25] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Hopefully she will listen and be a supportive partner.

[10:27] Tripp Crickett: It helps when your partner listens to your work.

[10:31] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yes.

[10:32] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Now, okay.

[10:34] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: So you're Oh, bless you.

[10:36] Tripp Crickett: You're it was a it was a call.

[10:39] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Well, I felt like that phrase would make you feel more comfortable.

[10:42] Tripp Crickett: I reflexively said it.

[10:43] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah.

[10:44] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Well, blessings are welcome.

[10:45] Tripp Crickett: Uh you know, in any in any case.

[10:47] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure.

[10:48] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: But I didn't sneeze.

[10:49] Tripp Crickett: Okay.

[10:50] Tripp Crickett: And if you did, you're safe to do that here.

[10:53] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Thank you for saying that.

[10:54] Tripp Crickett: Mm-hmm.

[10:55] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Um, but if don't sneeze on the microphone.

[10:57] Tripp Crickett: No, sure.

[10:58] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: If you can avoid it.

[10:58] Tripp Crickett: Understood.

[10:59] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure. Um now, your great uncle created this really kind of American iconic catchphrase, work hard, play hard.

[11:06] Tripp Crickett: It's employed by I would most of the people that come to mind initially in my mind are the finance, the bros, the hyper masculine kind of guys.

[11:16] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure. Do you think that that's am I right in that estimation?

[11:20] Tripp Crickett: That does sound that sounds right to my ear. I think it applies more broadly than that. But um it applies to anybody who holds a job that requires an immense amount of their attention and energy. And um you know that's what my uncle stood for.

[11:38] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: And right it seems like it's both the phrase is um kind of comforting like it it encourages people to play hard but it also simultaneously reminds them to work hard.

[11:51] Tripp Crickett: Well that's interesting you bring that up because I feel like the phrase is often abused because I I think it has come to be a sort of justification for play.

[12:01] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah.

[12:01] Tripp Crickett: But that comes without the first part which is the arguably more important part.

[12:07] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Right.

[12:07] Tripp Crickett: Millennials.

[12:09] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah play play play.

[12:10] Tripp Crickett: Yeah you don't have to tell me play so much play all the time hardly work.

[12:17] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Right, yeah.

[12:17] Tripp Crickett: Yeah. Stay at home and Netflix and you know, chill. Make up phrases and stickers and put them on your snaps.

[12:27] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah, that that's yep, that's right. But do they hold down a job?

[12:30] Tripp Crickett: Right.

[12:31] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you.

[12:33] Tripp Crickett: No.

[12:33] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Now, coming from this family where this this phrase came from, have you invented any phrases?

[12:40] Tripp Crickett: Oh, um pressure. I I haven't.

[12:45] Tripp Crickett: No. So the so the short answer is no.

[12:47] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: No.

[12:48] Tripp Crickett: Okay. So I am sort of hanging my head in shame. I know no one no one can see me, but no, hey, I'm sorry.

[12:54] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: You're a humble, you're a humble man, Tripp Crickett.

[12:58] Tripp Crickett: Thank you so much. And there's something to be admired in that.

[13:00] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: My family uh would beg to differ. We have several uh pavement pounding creators in our family, and uh but you've created a new Tupperware. You know, I sort of thought that that was enough.

[13:11] Tripp Crickett: It is enough. It's more than enough. Let's change the subject because I can see that you're getting upset.

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[14:53] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: I I'm gonna just rattle off a few phrases that I really enjoyed. And I'd love to know what you think of them.

[14:58] Tripp Crickett: Sure.

[14:59] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: That's the way the cookie crumbles.

[15:02] Tripp Crickett: That's terrible.

[15:03] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah. What why?

[15:05] Tripp Crickett: Oh, I haven't heard that before, but I don't like it.

[15:08] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh.

[15:08] Tripp Crickett: I don't like the sound of it.

[15:09] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh.

[15:10] Tripp Crickett: Do you like cookies?

[15:11] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: I do, yeah.

[15:12] Tripp Crickett: Okay. That's why I think imagining them crumbling.

[15:14] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: It makes you sad.

[15:15] Tripp Crickett: Yeah. It is what it is. It doesn't embody working hard. It doesn't embody playing hard.

[15:21] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Right.

[15:24] Tripp Crickett: It embodies sitting around.

[15:26] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah. And accepting. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

[15:29] Tripp Crickett: It's intensely frustrating.

[15:32] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Happy wife, happy life.

[15:34] Tripp Crickett: Hmm.

[15:35] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Mm-hmm.

[15:36] Tripp Crickett: I believe in that one.

[15:37] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: I think so. I think uh I think there's a lot to be said for I think that phrase is actually steeped in patriarchy.

[15:44] Tripp Crickett: Oh, sure.

[15:45] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Because w as if so what? Happy wife, happy life. Like I gotta keep my wife happy, because if I don't she's so kooky crazy, I gotta monitor her moods, then I'll be okay. As if as if the man has no issues of their own.

[15:59] Tripp Crickett: Well, I suppose in this day and age you could swap out the the operative gender.

[16:05] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah, but then what?

[16:06] Tripp Crickett: Happy husband, happy nothing rhymes with husband.

[16:09] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: No, nothing does.

[16:10] Tripp Crickett: Um, can one do something harder than work or play?

[16:15] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Can one do something the hardest?

[16:18] Tripp Crickett: Hmm.

[16:19] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Let's break that down.

[16:21] Tripp Crickett: Yeah, please.

[16:22] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Okay, so I think I think what I meant reading back through my notes, and you know, the the impulse strikes you and you and I write down these notes and I just think, wow, this is the question, and then you read it back and you think, too too many lattes that day, Emily.

[16:35] Tripp Crickett: Sure.

[16:35] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: We've all been there. Um by lattes I mean Cabernet.

[16:41] Tripp Crickett: Oh, that's not a latte at all, is it?

[16:44] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: No.

[16:49] Tripp Crickett: Um, can one okay, so work hard, play hard. Could you do something more than hard? Could you work too hard?

[16:58] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Well, interestingly, I think this phrase again, we just need to only go back to the phrase. It's not saying to work extremely hard. It's not saying to work yourself into a pulp. It's saying work hard.

[17:14] Tripp Crickett: Yeah.

[17:15] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: And do that. And do do that.

[17:17] Tripp Crickett: Uh-huh.

[17:17] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Honestly, truly.

[17:18] Tripp Crickett: Yes.

[17:18] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Work hard. Yeah. And play hard.

[17:20] Tripp Crickett: Right.

[17:21] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: But nothing to any extreme.

[17:23] Tripp Crickett: Sure. I I picture people saying work hard, play hard while on a floaty with drinks in their hand, like in a pool in Las Vegas or something. I could just picture someone with Ray Ban saying, Work hard, play hard.

[17:36] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: I mean, in that case, are they working hard?

[17:39] Tripp Crickett: No, they're they're playing hard. I suppose they could be party promoters or something, in which case that's also.

[17:44] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh, then it does get confusing, doesn't it?

[17:46] Tripp Crickett: Hard work.

[17:46] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Well, now you understand my frustration.

[17:48] Tripp Crickett: Exactly, exactly. I do think, however, my my great uncle would be beside himself to see how bastardized that phrase has become.

[17:59] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Because he worked so hard.

[18:00] Tripp Crickett: And what it what is it he did?

[18:03] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Um well, there's no easy way to um say this. Um grievous human rights violations notwithstanding, no one can take away from him his work ethic.

[18:15] Tripp Crickett: Oh.

[18:16] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Wow. If someone were to use the phrase um work hard, play hard, but replace work, W-O-R-K, with a commonly used uh W E R Q.

[18:26] Tripp Crickett: Hmm.

[18:27] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: So work. Hard play hard. Does your family still claim ownership to that? Does that spelling mean the same thing as W-O-R-K?

[18:37] Tripp Crickett: It it's a slightly different meaning. It's kind of inherently more fun.

[18:41] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh, uh-huh.

[18:42] Tripp Crickett: Like work, W-E-R-Q. It does kind of muddy the phrase then, doesn't it?

[18:48] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sure.

[18:48] Tripp Crickett: So maybe that's sort of like repeating play hard, play hard.

[18:51] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Yeah, it sounds like it's more just about the play.

[18:54] Tripp Crickett: Which makes sense since work is kind of a millennial thing.

[18:58] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: So those those dang millennials.

[19:00] Tripp Crickett: There we are again. What do you miss most about your great uncle? If he were alive today, what would you want to do?

[19:06] Tripp Crickett: Well, he's alive.

[19:07] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh.

[19:08] Tripp Crickett: Yes. He's uh he's currently serving a life sentence.

[19:12] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh his uh crimes against humanity.

[19:15] Tripp Crickett: Oh.

[19:16] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Well, that's But I uh I do still miss him.

[19:20] Tripp Crickett: Oh.

[19:21] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: What do you think about the phrase Saturdays are for the boys?

[19:25] Tripp Crickett: Huh. I'm not familiar with that one.

[19:28] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh. But I guess uh Saturdays could be for the boys, or the boys and girls or just the girls. I I guess Saturdays are kind of an anything goes kind of day.

[19:38] Tripp Crickett: That kind of brings me to my to my next question, which is these phrases are kind of ubiquitous. We say them all the time. They're somehow comforting, but it's almost like they also mean nothing.

[19:51] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: I would tend to disagree.

[19:53] Tripp Crickett: Oh.

[19:54] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Because I am part of a lineage that celebrates, I think, a particularly meaningful phrase. Um but sure, um, Saturdays are for the boys, seems to mean almost nothing at all.

[20:06] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Sometimes on the show, I don't know if you've listened, but we sometimes we like to do rapid fire questions.

[20:10] Tripp Crickett: Oh no, I haven't listened.

[20:12] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh, did it's available on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts.

[20:16] Tripp Crickett: Okay.

[20:19] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Your favorite place to work.

[20:20] Tripp Crickett: Tupperware.

[20:21] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Let me clarify.

[20:23] Tripp Crickett: Um your favorite place to work.

[20:25] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh, sure.

[20:26] Tripp Crickett: Uh uh m the place where I design my Tupperware.

[20:29] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh.

[20:30] Tripp Crickett: Which is my studio. Which is uh my garage.

[20:32] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh.

[20:33] Tripp Crickett: Which isn't a studio, it's just my garage.

[20:35] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Oh.

[20:35] Tripp Crickett: I didn't mean to overstate it.

[20:36] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: No, no. I mean it's pretty simple. If you call it a studio, I think that makes it a studio.

[20:41] Tripp Crickett: Oh.

[20:42] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Thank you for seeing it that way.

[20:43] Tripp Crickett: Yeah, what is a studio anyway?

[20:45] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: I think it's my garage.

[20:46] Tripp Crickett: Right. Favorite place to play.

[20:47] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: My basement.

[20:49] Tripp Crickett: Oh. Well, it's an honor to get to speak to you.

[20:51] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: And and you as well. Thank you so much for having me.

[20:56] Tripp Crickett: Thank you, Trip.

[20:57] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: Thank you.

[20:57] Tripp Crickett: Thank you, Tripp Crickett. To take a closer look into Tripp Crickett's Tupperware designs, you can find him online at www.tuppety tuptup.com. Be sure to check out what I thought was his most fascinating design. A Tupperware container in the shape of a corkscrew.

[21:16] Emily Amy Lauren Becca: I'm Emily Amy Lauren Becker. Thanks for listening. And as always, for supporting support for this podcast.