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[0:00] Eli Tokash: Hello everyone and welcome to episode 129 of Take A Bow.

[0:05] Eli Tokash: I'm your host Eli Tokash, and this week I lied to you all a little bit. I said that last week's episode with the cast of Ohio State Murders and Audra McDonald and all those wonderful people that we'd go back to a little more traditional episodes, but I think we're gonna keep it a little different for one more week, and then I guess if like these continue to happen, maybe do like bonus episodes, maybe continue to release it on Thursdays. I don't know. We're rolling with the punches and doing all the things.

[0:40] Eli Tokash: So we've had an exciting week. We were able to attend the opening night of Kimberly Akimbo, which you all know I love dearly. I was able to cover it on the red carpet. This episode is full of Broadway stars, and of course the cast of Kimberly Akimbo. Very exciting stuff. So, we also are going to be able to attend the opening night of Anne Juliet, which is literally like tonight, maybe happening while you listen to this. Very excited. Don't know too much about Anne Juliet because I haven't seen it yet, but what I do know about it is pretty cool, and the cast is incredible. I'm excited for that.

[1:25] Eli Tokash: So, with all that being said, very exciting stuff for Take A Bow to be covering that and much more, which I'll get into a little bit later. Another fun thing that Take A Bow was able to do this past week was we were able to attend A Christmas Carol. Now, somehow, like for the past couple years, it seems like A Christmas Carol is one of those shows that kind of always comes back to Broadway every year. And not necessarily just at like Madison Square Garden, where sometimes it plays. These past few years, it's happened to be on Broadway, and every year's a new version of it, you know, it just reimagined every year, and it's so beautifully done because the story's amazing.

[2:12] Eli Tokash: For those of you who don't know, A Christmas Carol was my first professional show that I ever did. So, A Christmas Carol is very special to me. But with that being said, I was able to see the production here that's currently on Broadway, and it stars Jefferson Mays. I didn't realize what that meant, but it is literally a one-man show where Jefferson Mays is essentially like telling us a bedtime story about A Christmas Carol because he literally is the narrator, and then when he's like the character, he'll like he'll be that character and he'll change his voice and he'll change his body language and he'll change all the things.

[2:55] Eli Tokash: And it is just an absolute masterclass performance. If this guy does not win the Tony for best actor in a play, I don't know who's going to. Now, granted, I don't see as many plays as I do musicals, but this performance was unlike any performance that I've ever seen in any theater capacity, whether it was like a musical or whether it was a play. He is just absolutely incredible. And I don't want to like not I don't want to say anything here, but I mean he is an older guy, you know, and he is on stage the entire show. The man does not leave the stage, truly.

[3:36] Eli Tokash: And it's just absolutely wild what he's able to do. And he's literally just running around that stage. He's on his hands and knees, he's doing everything, and it's just absolutely mind-blowing, and I couldn't have been in it more in awe of his performance. So huge shout out to Jefferson Mays there. Just incredible. And if anyone has the opportunity to go see that show, you have to go see it. I mean, you've never I mean, everyone's seen A Christmas Carol, but no one's seen it done like this. I mean, I was in the show for three years and just did not appreciate it as much as I did in this production and even like found new things to love about it.

[4:23] Eli Tokash: It's just one of those shows that kind of relates more and more every year. So it's so beautiful. So everyone go see A Christmas Carol, absolutely brilliant, and what Jefferson Mays is doing on that stage is just it's something not to miss, seriously. Another fun thing that Take A Bow was able to do, sorry, I'm taking I'm talking a bit about Take A Bow, but that's okay because we've just been doing so much exciting things. I was able to attend my first caricature induction over at Sardi's of the one and only Sir Tim Rice, which was so cool. It was my first time actually meeting Tim.

[5:00] Eli Tokash: But he is a podcast on the Broadway Podcast Network, and to talk with him was an absolute joy. For those of you who don't know, Tim Rice is the lyricist who collaborated with Elton John for The Lion King, both on Broadway and in the animation. He's actually the one that brought Elton John onto the team, which was quite cool. I learned that at the I guess induction. For those of you who don't know, he also wrote Aladdin and Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat and Chess. So lots of wonderful things. He has written so many more, but we'd literally be here for an hour if I tried to name you all of them.

[5:47] Eli Tokash: So to meet him was awesome. He was way taller than I thought, one of the sweetest human beings I've ever met. Everyone there was just so thrilled to be supporting him and to honor him in his special day over at getting a caricature at Sardi's. I didn't even know that they did those like fun little parties. I mean I did, but I didn't know like how I guess like special it was or like how you know in depth it was. But it was really cool to be there, and hopefully more of those because Sardi's is pretty cool, and to be there to witness the unveiling of a Broadway Legends caricature is pretty special, it's pretty cool. Not gonna lie.

[6:30] Eli Tokash: So, anyways, that was the fun things that Take A Bow was able to do this past week, and much more is to come with Anne Juliet on Thursday. And yeah, so that being said, let's turn it over to Broadway news because there's lots to get to. First off, and most importantly, is probably the Grammys. The 2023 Grammy Award nominations came out, and as always, there's a best musical theater album category. And now I don't think there were any surprises here for anyone for that matter, but I guess I have to say, like it this is an interesting category because Carolina Change, Into the Woods, MJ, Mr. Saturday NIGHT, and Six and A Strange Loop were all nominated in this category.

[7:24] Eli Tokash: Now a few things here that surprised me were obviously like Into the Woods and Carolina Change are revivals. So I was like oh are they going to get nominated because like you know best new album is not revivals aren't in that category for the Tony Awards. So obviously Into the Woods and Carolina Change were not in that well obviously Into the Woods wasn't in it because they weren't even in that season but Carolina Change for example wasn't even in the category because it was a revival so I didn't know that the that I guess I never realized that that was a possibility and then you know MJ the musical with all of Michael Jackson's songs so like of course it was gonna get like a Grammy nomination and honestly it's probably gonna win but these are all Michael Jackson songs.

[8:15] Eli Tokash: I mean he how many Grammys has he won you know like I don't know I was just like there's three categories that are like based off of other music and then Mr. Saturday NIGHT, Six and Strange Loop are all new music and personally I mean all of those albums are fantastic but Six is my favorite out of those three but I don't know if any of those three even have a chance to win compared to the other three. But with that being said, I'm very excited to look forward to this. I'm thrilled that once again Broadway is being noticed in a broader spectrum of audiences and everything. So congratulations to everyone nominated and I look forward to seeing who wins because it's gonna be interesting.

[9:09] Eli Tokash: And then one more note with the Grammys there is a certain Broadway performer who got nominated for two different projects for the Grammys which I'm sure without any context you can guess who it is because who else would be I mean he's everywhere and he's nominated for everything. It's Lin-Manuel Miranda who got nominated for both Encanto and West Side Story. So congrats Lin and congrats everyone in the Broadway community because there were a few others who were nominated that have been on Broadway and stuff like that. So congrats to everyone and yeah very exciting stuff and we'll be cheering you on for sure.

[9:54] Eli Tokash: Another little fun thing that happened this week was the unveiling of the Museum of Broadway. I'm so excited that Broadway has a museum honestly like never thought that day would come and the fact that it's here so exciting. It had a little ribbon cutting ceremony and now it's officially open to the public. I can't wait to check this out seriously I've heard such amazing things about it. You probably follow all the same people I do so you've probably seen people go in and experience it before it even comes out and show you little pictures and videos or whatever it may be.

[10:32] Eli Tokash: I'm excited because I'm gonna go film my experience very soon here and have something exciting also happening while that's going on while I tour the Museum of Broadway. Maybe giving a tour, I don't know what it may be. You will just have to stay tuned to find out. But we are going to be filming it and posting it on YouTube and all the social medias so that you can come along to the museum with me for those of you who are out of town, and then for those of you who want to experience it for yourself, but you're not sure what you're gonna get. It's very cool what they're doing with the tickets too, because you can go to the museum for a price of a rush ticket.

[11:13] Eli Tokash: So you can experience multiple Broadway shows for the price of one rush ticket, which is super cool. And if you love Broadway and you've seen all the Broadway shows on Broadway right now, well then go just go rush a ticket to the Museum of Broadway. No, literally, I mean it's literally I think it's a little less even. So definitely worth it. And I just can't wait to check it out. And it's just especially during this holiday season, I think it's gonna be really cool and it's gonna be really busy. So hopefully that continues.

[11:42] Eli Tokash: Also, wanted to congratulate Chicago for celebrating 26 years on Broadway. While that was happening this week, Lion King also celebrated 25 years of being on Broadway. So very, very exciting stuff between the two, I guess historic companies. I mean, it not I guess it is historic. Just unbelievable, both Chicago and Lion King. And that was cool to be there for Tim Rice when this was going on, the 25th year of Lion King, which is so incredible and such an incredible accomplishment. So very, very cool stuff for both companies involved. So congratulations to the both of those productions.

[12:27] Eli Tokash: And speaking of, now that I have the caricature moment back in my head, I was actually able to see Lena Hall there, and that made me think that Matt Doyle has officially taken over as Seymour in Little Shop of Horrors, which is super exciting. Rob McClure did have his final performance last Sunday, and Matt Doyle is now Seymour in Little Shop of Horrors, which if you didn't know, Matt Doyle is in this episode. So good timing for that.

[13:00] Eli Tokash: And one more thing before I turn it over to the interviews. For those of us who love cookies and desserts, but also love free things. Which who doesn't love free things? Because when it comes to food, nothing tastes better than when it's free. So that's just me, and that's real. But with that being said, Schmackery's is offering Kimberly Akimbo themed cookies over at Schmackery's for free that they're giving away. So you can go, it's this week only though. So you can get your cookie you stop by before the show between 4 and 6 p.m. and you can get a free cookie, including the new Kimberly's Great Adventure cookie that they're calling it.

[13:46] Eli Tokash: So everyone go to Schmackery's, go get a free cookie from 4 to 6 p.m. You can choose any of them, but for this week, they are doing a Kimberly Akimbo themed cookie, so why not? Because Broadway and desserts, I mean, Broadway is a dessert, Broadway is a treat. So go get your Schmackery cookies. I know I'm gonna go get one probably today when this comes out before the Anne Juliet. So I'm excited, and I'll report to you all and see if it's actually good or not, but I'm very excited, and hopefully you will take advantage through the rest of the week because it's this week only from four to six. Go get a free cookie.

[14:20] Eli Tokash: Oh, just one more thing. I usually start with these, so they slipped my mind. Happy opening to Mike Birbiglia for The Old Man in the Pool. His little one-man show on Broadway has officially opened, so just wanted to shout him out and congratulate him on opening on Broadway.

[14:40] Eli Tokash: Very, very cool. All right, I'm all done. I know I've been long-winded and have talked a lot, but all very important stuff, and wanted to share it all with you. So without further ado, we're gonna turn it over to the wonderful people over at Kimberly Akimbo. We have Broadway stars such as Matt Doyle. I was able to talk to Steven Schwartz. Um, I didn't interview him or anything like that, but it was more of like, oh my god, Steven, hey, how's it going? I wasn't one of your Theos in Pippin, and he was like, Oh my god, I Eli, yes, of course. Oh my god. So that was thrilling. I don't know if you remember me. I was in the revival of Pippin. I'm Eli. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I was one of the little, man.

Yeah, I know. It's so good to see you. Good to see you. How is life? Yeah. Yeah, busy, eh? I know. You're a busy boy with the wicked movie. It's exciting. Crazy, but it's good. It's good for you. Congrats on everyone. Go for it. It's good to see you. Nice to see you too. Truly, that was such a cool experience. But uh, you'll hear from Broadway legends like uh LaShawn's and Matt Doyle. Uh, we have Bonnie Milligan, who's obviously in the cast, and then we have incredible people that were part of the show, whether it was producers, Jessica Stone. Uh, we have an orchestrator who was the first female person of color orchestrator on Broadway, which is very, very cool. And we had a wonderful conversation about the show and about that honor.

There's so many great conversations happening here, and a couple other take about guests that we've had on previously that we were able to talk to uh live in person at the opening night. It was just so fun. So without further ado, here is the opening night of Kimberly Akimbo.

[16:25] Eli Tokash: Hi everyone, it's Eli from Take A Bow, covering the opening night here at Skater Palace, also known as the Boo Theater, covering Kimberly Akimbo, Broadway's newest, hottest musical of the season. So I'm so excited to be here talking to all the celebrities, the cast, and the creatives. Thanks for tuning in. I am so excited and happy and grateful to the people who gave me this opportunity. Yeah, so uh I hear that you are the first woman of color to be orchestrating a musical here on Broadway. What does that mean to you?

[17:09] Unknown speaker: That really means everything to me. You know, my life dream has been to orchestrate on Broadway and um to be the first woman of color orchestrator is something I'm very, very honored to get to be, but also I really hope that I hope that three years from now there's like so many dozens of people that that's not even a statistic anymore, you know.

[17:26] Eli Tokash: Absolutely. What could you say? Like what advice could you give to others out there that want to do what you're doing right now?

[17:32] Unknown speaker: Oh man, um, you know, I always say to be bold, to you know, like like ask for what you want and and reach out to people and um, you know, be be really, really bold about your dreams and they might come true.

[17:43] Eli Tokash: Yeah. So let me ask you, because this is uh this obviously is centered around a high school time and all of that. What when you like say this was happening today and you were in high school, what would you be wearing right now to the opening night?

[17:57] Unknown speaker: Probably like an XL like Fratdy t-shirt and leggings. It would like cover my butt. This dates exactly when I went to high school. I'm obsessed. Well, enjoy, congratulations. I can't wait to see it. Congrats on the incredible run and break a leg.

[18:10] Unknown speaker: So much. Thanks. We're here at the opening night of Kimberly Akimbo. How excited are we?

[18:14] Unknown speaker: I'm so excited. I can't wait to see. I love this show so much. I've seen it twice already. And uh I uh I love the cast so much, Vicky Clark, and obviously my dear wonderful friend Bonnie Milligan, who is just like, I mean, the time is now for Bonnie Milligan, and I'm very excited about it.

[18:29] Unknown speaker: Yeah, voice kills me every time. It's absolutely outrageous. What she's done with this role that you think like uh is on paper, not a good person, not likable, and then she makes it so endearing and wonderful and somehow the anti-hero of the story that you're just obsessed with.

[18:44] Unknown speaker: I yeah, you end up somehow rooting for her.

[18:47] Unknown speaker: Oh, absolutely, absolutely. I love it. Um you are actually gonna be stepping into Little Shop of Horrors. Congratulations.

[18:54] Unknown speaker: Thank you so much. Um, this show has some ice skating in the show on the stage. What would your thoughts be if you started ice skating in Little Shop of Horrors?

[19:03] Unknown speaker: Uh I would fall every every foot. I mean, I wouldn't be able to get like an inch across. I watch those kids every night, and I'm like, if there's one thing that the world would watch me fail at, is ice skating on a stage. Are you kidding me? I don't know how they do it, truly. It's amazing.

[19:18] Unknown speaker: Musical teams. People know that I am like the biggest non-dancer that somehow made his way into musical theater, and I can't ever hide it. Every time I like even try, people are like, no, baby, don't. No, don't, no, no, no, don't. And so I watch these kids ice skate. I'm like, oh no, that's that's that I'm done with that. But like, let's be real. Musical theater kids can do it all, y'all.

[19:38] Unknown speaker: Truly, apparently. They have to, not me, but they can. I guess so. So I have one last question for you, and then I'll let you enjoy the show. And I'm actually gonna film this here, too. Okay, um, I'll ask the question first. Um, if this show is obviously centered around high school and high school relationships and everything like that. So if there was a time in high school where someone was giving you a hard time for being a little bit different or anything, like what would could you wish that you could say to someone going through that or even to your younger self?

[20:05] Unknown speaker: I think most importantly, what I've learned from those experiences is that as cliche as it sounds, I always came out on the other end stronger. And now as an adult, I have this ability to look back on it and this opportunity to look back on it and listen to what was being said to me and listen to who was saying it to me and understand their humanity now, as long and as difficult as it was for me to get there. And I think it's just an important thing to remember that it's not you, it's them. And you have to trust that, and you have to trust that what you offer the world is just as beautiful and valid and as important as anything else and everyone else, and uh, and it's their bullshit, to be completely honest. I mean, it's their baggage, it's their bullshit, and it's uh just so unfortunate that it's being spewed at you, but you will come out on the other end so much stronger.

[20:59] Unknown speaker: Not Matt Doyle making us cry on the red carpet on a happy night. Um my god, thank you so much for stopping by. Enjoy opening night.

[21:07] Unknown speaker: Thank you. Thank you so much, you guys. It's good to see you. It's been uh it's been a long process, eh?

[21:12] Unknown speaker: Uh it has been. Well, I I think Janine and David and I, I mean, Janine and David started working on it seven or eight years ago, and I came on board about four years ago. So uh tonight just feels like a really great celebration of um of a really fun collaboration.

[21:28] Unknown speaker: Absolutely, and and you guys, you obviously you had an out-of-town, not an out of town, but an off-Broadway run over at Atlantic Theater Company. Um it created so much buzz and it got such great reviews. So, like, how how much were you guys anticipating the Broadway transfer and now to be here? Like, what does that mean to go through it all?

[21:45] Unknown speaker: Well, you never want to assume, so we didn't know, but we did learn fairly soon after um after into the run of our uh time at the Atlantic that we would be transferring. So that was really exciting, and it's it's always nice to have another chance to um to make things better, you know.

[22:05] Unknown speaker: The shitty little life better.

[22:06] Unknown speaker: That's right. Yeah, so this obviously is centered around uh high school, you know, and takes place of like real high school relationships and all the things. If you were in high school and you were attending the opening night of this lovely musical, what would you be wearing?

[22:21] Unknown speaker: Well, you could find out because I'm about to go get my 13 and 15-year-old sons, and they are attending, and so they're in something sort of similar to yours. A suit with a t-shirt and some funky shoes.

[22:30] Unknown speaker: Oh yeah, nothing like crazy out of the blue, right?

[22:34] Unknown speaker: Yeah. All right. My high school days I'd be like corset and bustle, 1800s, you know.

[22:39] Unknown speaker: That's it, that's the answer. Um, and now one last thing. I mean, as I said, it's centered around high school and everything like that. So for anyone who's in high school right now and they're going through a hard time, whether it is being a little bit different compared to everyone else, or so they're being bullied as saying such, um, what advice would you give them, or what could you tell them to kind of keep them keep their hopes up?

[23:02] Unknown speaker: Um, be yourself and find your tribe. Find your find your group that um thinks similarly, find the people that you make laugh and that make you laugh, and you'll be alright.

[23:12] Eli Tokash: Absolutely. Well, congratulations. Break a leg on the rest of the run. I'm so excited for the show. Thank you.

[23:17] Unknown speaker: It's nice to meet you.

[23:18] Eli Tokash: Nice to meet you as well, thank you. How's it going? I'm Eli. It's nice to meet you. We're here at the opening night of Kimberly Akimbo. So excited.

[23:26] Unknown speaker: Dude, I love this show so much. I saw it off Broadway, and it's just so fun and so heartwarming, and it's so it's like so topical without being too heavy, but we're in heavy times and it's so joyful, man.

[23:39] Eli Tokash: It's a joyful. There are some, like, if we really boil it down, there are some heavy topics in the show.

[23:45] Unknown speaker: Yeah.

[23:45] Eli Tokash: Um, but the way that they are able to maneuver it and kind of go through it and touch on the topics and also like do it in an effective way is so beautiful, and it's one of the reasons that make this show so special.

[23:55] Unknown speaker: Uh yeah, yeah, it is special. And sometimes there are there are joyful moments in dark times, and you know, sometimes there are moments of levity and during moments of heaviness, and so all of those things live together often, and so it's nice to see it on stage as as one collision.

[24:10] Eli Tokash: Absolutely. So I have to ask you, because this show is centered around like high school relationships and high school, you know, a high school time. Um, I have two questions for this, actually. If uh you could tell yourself, you know, Kimberly is currently going through high school, she's a little bit different, and she if there was something that was happening in high school and you were being, you know, either bullied or brought down because you were a little bit different. What could you say to like your younger self or someone who's currently going through that?

[24:39] Unknown speaker: Oh my god. New York is currently New Yorking at the moment. One second. So I was definitely teased for being a black gay boy in Texas. But I went to a school, it was an art high school, and I found my people when I finally got there. So I would tell people, first of all, get around people that are gonna fight with you. Whether that's teachers or students, or your mom, or somebody coming up to that school with you, but also know that eventually you can and will find your tribe and your people who will have your back. I am as weird, as gay and as black as I was then. Yes, and I just have a tribe of people now around me. And a tribe of people were there as well, and we all kind of built a community around being weird, and it it's beautiful. So find the other weirdos around you, is what I would say. Instead of trying not to be or trying to not get picked on, no, find your army of weirdos and protect each other.

[25:41] Eli Tokash: I love that. That's such a great answer. Thank you so much.

[25:44] Unknown speaker: Yeah, oh my god. Okay, and the last sec the last question about being a high schooler. If you were a high schooler attending the opening night of Kimberly Akimbo, what would you be wearing right now?

[25:57] Unknown speaker: The school girl socks.

[25:59] Eli Tokash: Yes, I love it. Oh my god.

[26:01] Unknown speaker: What was up, please?

[26:04] Eli Tokash: Oh my god, those are everything. Wait, uh wait, can we do this again? We gotta do it again for social. What would I be wearing? I'd be wearing my school girl socks.

[26:11] Unknown speaker: Yes!

[26:15] Eli Tokash: Oh my god, everything. This is so good. Thank you. Enjoy the show.

[26:22] Unknown speaker: The opening night of Kimberly Akimbo. How excited are you?

[26:24] Unknown speaker: I'm so thrilled. Um, I love the show so much. We've been working on it for a really long time, so I'm just so excited to put it out into the world and for people to see it.

[26:32] Eli Tokash: Yeah, talk to me about the process because you were over at Atlantic Theater Company, and you guys got some of the biggest buzz in a long time.

[26:39] Unknown speaker: Well, we started working on this, or I came onto the project in 2019. And we were originally supposed to do it off Broadway, summer of 2020, and then the pandemic happened. So I've been working on it with Janine and David and Jess. Like, we've been working on it for a long time. And because of that, uh I think we all got to like really explore it, and it's it's really rich because of that extra time, I think.

[27:00] Eli Tokash: Yeah, absolutely. So this show is obviously centered around high school and being like having high school relationships and all the things. Um what could you say to yourself going through high school if you may were if you were going through a time where someone was telling you that you were a little bit different or what?

[27:16] Unknown speaker: Oh my god, well, you're you're putting your finger just on why I think this is the show for everyone, actually, because I was in high school in the 90s, and I was growing up gay in Indiana and rural Indiana at the time, and I often felt that I you know the line um with a change of perspective, nothing's defective. You know what I mean? That's such a beautiful line, and it means so much to me. And I think we all at a certain time feel that we are not normal, or that we are not good enough because we are not normal. And that idea of normalcy is really a lie anyway, right? Like, because we are all just what we are. Right.

[27:54] Unknown speaker: Yeah. Well, I have to ask you because this show is so cool for so many reasons, but if you didn't know, there's ice skating on stage.

[28:02] Unknown speaker: That's right. What was that process like, and how is that introduced, and how do you guys make that magic?

[28:07] Unknown speaker: That was um one of the most intense processes of my life thus far, and I love it. I learned to ice skate. We do it on this plastic, right? It's a plastic called polyglide, which is just the floor, and it's something that skaters put in their homes so they can practice on it. And um, we found it, we researched it. I took tons of lessons at the Chelsea Sky Rink with Stephanie Hernandez, who's coming tonight as one of my guests. Um, and it's just been really amazing and teaching the cast as well. I also love figure skating, so just getting to learn a little bit about it has been really, really fun.

[28:40] Eli Tokash: Well, it's so brilliant, literally. As soon as they come out, you like hear the audience gasp, like literally. I think people like don't know how we're doing it. You know, like some people come to the show and think that there are little wheels on the blades, right? And they uh I hear a lot of people saying that. And so we had this little controversy on Instagram called Little Wheelgate, right? So where people saying it was little wheels, and we were like, no, it is not little wheels, okay? So, anyway.

[29:06] Unknown speaker: That's crazy. Well, because like it comes out halfway through the show, so like you don't know how they're doing it because they've been like walking on it the whole time. So, how would they now be skating on it? And that's theater magic. It's literally Broadway magic. We love Broadway. Um, well, thank you so much, Kate.

[29:20] Kate: Thank you. It's your opening night. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Thank you. We're here, we did it. So excited. We're finally here, it's a great moment. I'm so excited to hear what people think of our play. Oh my god. Of our little story, our little brand new musical, and I'm so excited to share the joy in this piece with everyone. It's literally one of the most brilliant shows on Broadway ever, uh, but especially right now. Um, this is centered around a high school and high school relationships and all of that thing. So if you're a kid in high school, if you were a kid in high school who was maybe made fun of for being a little bit different, or for someone out there who's currently in that position, what advice would you give them if uh to just get them through that time?

Everyone is put on this earth to do something different and special. So comparing yourself to someone else is your downfall. Lean into your own brilliance and know that that is where your success will be.

[30:17] Unknown speaker: Absolutely. That was a brilliant answer, seriously. And now one last question. If you were in high school, right, if this opening night took place while you were in high school, what would you be wearing right now?

[30:28] Kate: Probably leg warmers. And maybe some like some shiny jogging. Because you know, I was a dancer in high school and an off the shoulder crop top, and probably my hair just the way it is.

[30:40] Unknown speaker: I love it. It's so great. Well, congratulations. Have so much fun. We're we're here. You did it!

[30:45] Unknown speaker: Yeah. I have to tell you how you're like, oh my god, 10 year old, of course. Oh, so good. Oh my god, here on the red carpet of Kimberly and Akimbo, not a big deal.

[30:55] Unknown speaker: Yes, I'm excited about it. Have you seen it?

[30:57] Unknown speaker: I have. I saw it off Broadway.

[30:59] Unknown speaker: Incredible, right? Amazing.

[31:01] Unknown speaker: Yeah. It's ridiculous. I've seen in years. Yeah. Truly. So it takes place around a high school and high school relationships and all the things like that. If you were someone who's currently going through high school or even in your younger self, if you were made fun of for being a little bit different, what advice would you give to yourself or others out there to get through that time?

[31:20] Unknown speaker: I would say embrace all the things that make you uniquely you because one day those are the things that are gonna make you the star and the money and like get all the love that you deserve. So embrace it now because later it's gonna pay off and they'll be laughing, you'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

[31:37] Unknown speaker: Absolutely. Now, you obviously saw the show, so I'm not giving anything away, but there is ice skating in the show on the stage. What are your thoughts on that? Like could you go up there and go do that?

[31:47] Unknown speaker: Of course, I love ice skating. So I would love to ice skate in the show.

[31:50] Unknown speaker: Oh my god! Yes, yeah. Okay, well now we have to make it happen. So we're gonna cast Jonathan Burke as a replacement in the show.

[31:55] Unknown speaker: Okay. Oh my god. It's so it's one of the coolest parts. And like it just reminds you of like the Broadway magic, you know, and how special Broadway can be when it just comes out. So it's so cool. Um one last question for you. If you were if this opening night was happening right when you were in high school, what would you be wearing?

[32:13] Unknown speaker: Oh god, I'll probably be wearing something like a blazer and like a something cute like this. I don't know.

[32:20] Unknown speaker: You look so good.

[32:23] Unknown speaker: Thank you. Yeah, you're killing it.

[32:25] Unknown speaker: Thank you. You too, you too.

[32:28] Unknown speaker: Thanks, love you.

[32:29] Unknown speaker: Yes, of course. I love the ill. My name is Fernel Hogan and I play Martin Dodie. And you just opened Cavillia Kimbo on Broadway. How are we feeling?

[32:36] Fernel Hogan: It's it's pretty wild. It's it's been a great night. I'm feeling excited. I've been saying I'm like living on a high right now. Yeah. This show has everything, and especially here on opening night. We even had an understudy on the show in the show. Talk to me about that and what like the rehearsal process has been like to prepare for that.

[32:53] Fernel Hogan: We have such great understudies that it was like never a worry when we needed to put one on. TMI. I had one on yesterday. And I because I did not feel good. And I had complete trust that all of the understudies and everyone on stage is able to work together and make our cute little show. So it's been great. They are so prepared and so good.

[33:16] Unknown speaker: Absolutely. Well, I mean, obviously, this takes place around high school and all the things like that. So for you, I know you just it's it was fairly recent high school for you and everything, but I want to think back, and you know, if you were going through a time where someone was saying that you were different, and if someone else is going out there is going through that right now, what advice would you give them to keep going?

[33:39] Fernel Hogan: I would say just be your authentic self, and you will find the people who accept you and want to be around you, and those who don't were never meant to be in your life.

[33:50] Unknown speaker: Right. Yeah. That's their loss.

[33:51] Fernel Hogan: That's their loss. So can you tell me your do you have a favorite part in the show? A favorite part of the show. It could be a song, it could be the fact that you guys ice skate, it could be anything you want.

[34:01] Fernel Hogan: My favorite part to watch and listen to is Inevitable Turn. Okay. It's my favorite song, hands down. But also I really enjoyed doing skater playing. Yeah. Did you know how to do it beforehand, or is that something you learned for the show?

[34:12] Fernel Hogan: Uh ice skating? Yeah. No, that's something I learned for the show.

[34:16] Unknown speaker: And what was that like? Because y'all are doing tricks and everything up there.

[34:19] Fernel Hogan: Yeah. So we got, I was saying, we got hired. And then after the fact, they were like, by the way, there's ice skating. And I was like, what do you mean? How? Where? So we had lessons uh two weeks total with off Broadway and Broadway, and our teachers were all amazing, and now here we are, moonwalking on ice.

[34:36] Unknown speaker: Incredible. And now you're you kind of are a bit of the lead in the chorus of the ensemble here. Do you have a favorite part of Dream Girls or like a favorite costume in the show that kind of inspires your character?

[34:48] Fernel Hogan: Um, favorite costume that inspires my character. I mean the suspenders. Yeah. Love the suspenders. Absolutely. They're vintage. They're iconic.

[34:56] Unknown speaker: They are iconic.

[34:57] Fernel Hogan: Okay. They're Martin's iconic suspenders. Period. Well, thank you so much for for stopping by and happy opening. Break away on the rest of the road.

[35:05] Unknown speaker: Thank you, thank you very much. Hey, what's going on, Justin?

[35:07] Unknown speaker: Great. How are you?

[35:09] Unknown speaker: Well, kind of. I'm Scott. I know you.

[35:11] Unknown speaker: Yes, what's up? Good to see you. Congrats on your opening of Camilla Kimbo. So, how are we feeling right now?

[35:19] Justin: Um so excited and incredibly proud. I mean, we've worked really hard for all of this, and um it seemed like the audience really received what we were putting down and loved it and felt touched and laughed, and that's that's all we can ask for. So I'm very happy about it. There's many things that make this show special. So it may be hard to limit it down to one, but what do you think is the most special thing about this show and about the message that this show portrays?

[35:45] Justin: Um I think what's so special about this show is seeing people that are weird and imperfect in all their ways trying to make the most of their lives. Um I think a lot of times people see that in themselves, and that resonates with them, and a lot of the times we're trying to, you know, mask that and present differently, and I think me going up there and speaking Elvis and Kim, you know, having her dorky laugh and her candy necklaces is what makes the show really special.

[36:15] Unknown speaker: Yeah, truly. Well, can you talk to me about the process of this show? I mean, you were with it from Atlantic, and were you with it beforehand? Like what was your process in with US?

[36:24] Justin: Um, I jumped on about a little over a year ago at the Atlantic um in August of last year, and it was definitely a big jump for me as an artist as I was just coming from high school and was planning to go train in college, and then I came here, and so this process has been really on top of that, making a new musical. I mean, it's kind of like we're all treading in water. Um, but it's been incredible from day one because of my castmates and our incredible team. Everyone has nurtured me and met me where I was with certain things and supported me and really just brought me up and we've all brought up each other. So this process has been very dynamic and very educational and overall heartwarming.

[37:11] Unknown speaker: That's amazing. Like throughout this process, I mean there's so much I'm sure that you're learning and soaking up. What do you think is like the biggest thing that you learned that you were like, oh my god, I never even realized that this is part of the process?

[37:24] Justin: I mean, there's definitely a lot of things like press interviews and stuff that I like coming, it was crazy just to be a part of that part of theater. It's incredible and it's all important. Um I think artistically I was able to learn just how to really bring myself and bring what's unique about me into something. You know, I think it can feel very competitive, especially when you're younger. But getting here, um, having people just meet me and try to get out of me what I didn't even see in myself and what was special and unique to me was really incredible.

[38:02] Unknown speaker: That is so awesome. I have one last question for you before you leave. Um this show is all about I mean, it's about a like there's high school relationships and all the things, and it's just really about you know finding your community. And it I think that that's something really special, especially in this day and age for high schoolers go and kids in general with social media and everything. It's there's a lot uh mentally going on and all of the things. So how do you how important do you feel like this message is right now and the importance of this show being on Broadway right now?

[38:33] Justin: I think it's so important, and I hope it reaches a lot of people. I think there's something for people of so many ages, like our cast. Um, you know, I'm 19, Vicky's in her 60s. It's it's and we reach all of those people, and specifically for people my age from my character. I wish I saw a character like Seth when um I was in high school. I think that part has always been something for me and my process to really focus on and make sure that I'm communicating that it's special and incredible to be a weirdo, and you'll find your community eventually, and those will be the greatest adventures that you go on.

[39:13] Unknown speaker: That's amazing. Us may not just in making us cry here on a happy night. Thank you so much for talking to us.

[39:20] Justin: Of course. Thank you so much.

[39:23] Unknown speaker: Of course, have a good one.

[39:25] Justin: You as well. I'm Sky Alyssa Friedman, and I'm the cover for Delia and Teresa.

[39:29] Sky Alyssa Friedman: Yes, leading Team Swing. Come on. There was we're here at the opening night of Kimberly Akimbo, obviously, and there was actually a swing on tonight.

[39:39] Unknown speaker: Yes. How about that? Like what's going on?

[39:42] Sky Alyssa Friedman: You know, it's just we're in these crazy times, and it's a thing right now on Broadway. I I know a few other shows have had understudies on before opening night. Um, so it's kind of just the times we're in. We had three understudies on this week, and they all killed it. And it's so mind-blowing and amazing too. What's that process been like, you know, with rehearsals, kind of like putting things together last minute with the understudies and having that chemistry built up?

[40:05] Sky Alyssa Friedman: Yeah, you know, we're we're lucky because we've had a few rehearsals, which usually doesn't happen until after opening for Broadway shows. Um we hadn't had our put ins yet, so it's still very much just like you know, we're gonna do this. But we have an amazing team, we have amazing associates who have really prepared us. So we're all we're all very lucky, and just you know, um, this has been an amazing process, so it's great.

[40:27] Unknown speaker: What's it like to be on Broadway with like people your own age, you know?

[40:31] Sky Alyssa Friedman: So fun, you know, we're all like hanging out. You would think that we'd be like done with each other and wouldn't want to see each other, but like we're always doing something on Sunday nights. Like it's just we are like inseparable, and everybody's so kind and wonderful, and it's been a joy.

[40:45] Unknown speaker: Yeah, besties, families, you know, all the things.

[40:48] Sky Alyssa Friedman: It's so great. Um, well, that's kind of uh even better because you know, Kimberly Akimbo's message is obviously a lot about community. Right. And um what do you think with today's day and age with social media and just like the mental health and everything like that and just building that community? How important is it for this show to be on Broadway right now?

[41:05] Sky Alyssa Friedman: I think it's so important because it not only is it community and love the people you love while we're here, it's also about life, and like we only have a short amount of time, and we only get to do this once, so it's like tell the people you love you love them, like go out and do that thing that you've always wanted to do, like try a new food, you know what I mean? Like use the time that you have while you're here, and I think it's such an important and like vital message right now. Always, but right now specifically.

[41:28] Unknown speaker: Absolutely. Well, fun fact for those listening, Sky and I actually practiced ice skating when they were first learning.

[41:35] Sky Alyssa Friedman: We did.

[41:35] Unknown speaker: Over at Brian. Also helped me with my Kimberly Akimbo self-tape.

[41:39] Sky Alyssa Friedman: Uh oh my god, I did. You did?

[41:41] Unknown speaker: Oh, right. Yes. I totally forgot about that. You know what? I was starting I was singing uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. Instantly. And before the show even came out. So like I was one of the OG of Kimberly Akimbo fans.

[41:53] Sky Alyssa Friedman: Yeah, you were. You were. No, I fully was. So um Sky's amazing, and Sky's crushing it on Broadway in our second Broadway show. Um, yeah, you're killing it. So thanks for stopping by and happy opening.

[42:05] Sky Alyssa Friedman: Thank you so much. My name is Nina White, and I play Teresa.

[42:08] Nina White: Yay, and we're here at the opening night of Kimberly and Mo. How are we feeling?

[42:11] Nina White: I am feeling crazy in a good way. Yeah, it's so exciting. I don't know. It's like it's a very overwhelming thing.

[42:22] Unknown speaker: Feeling all yes, yes. But it's been a wonderful night, and it's so special and exciting, yeah.

[42:29] Unknown speaker: Well, this show is so special for a lot of reasons. And one of the reasons is like the emphasis it has on community and finding your people, especially in high school, because like oof, times should be hard. But um if you could like go back in time and tell high school Nina or um someone else going through high school right now and give them advice to get through that time where someone may have thought they were a little bit different, what would you say?

[42:55] Nina White: I would say that when you close your eyes and think about the things that are good about you or that you like about yourself, the things that come to mind, hold on to them and believe them that they are good, and that they are they make you unique and uh and then honestly also like life goes on, and you will exit high school, you will exit high school, and if you if you embrace and try to lead with the things that you love and that you love about yourself, you hopefully will find other people who love those things about you or share those things with you.

[43:48] Allie Mozzie: Oh my god, twins. We just asked the same question. It could be like a song or a choreography number or something backstage.

[43:56] Allie Mozzie: Well, I get to sit on stage left and watch Vicky do "Make a Wish" every evening. I do my little change and then I go and I sit and I watch, and it is so stunning every single time. I am never tired of it. It's always different, it's always beautiful, and I love doing that. And I also love singing in act two. We have like a little skater plan at Reprise when we're playing Uno. And that is also so special to sing because it feels like, I don't know, like I feel like when you're young, when you're in high school, also now, but when you're in high school especially, when you have a rare moment with your friends where you're like, oh my gosh, like I love these people around me. This is so fun. This is cool. I don't know, that's like the moment that's happening on stage, and it feels very intimate and like, I don't know. It's yeah, I like that too. I love it.

[45:03] Eli Tokash: That's a great answer. You got there for sure.

[45:05] Eli Tokash: You mentioned you were playing Uno on stage and you do all kind of fun things on stage. You get to play Uno, you get to ice skate, you get to do all the things. Do you have a favorite card game or a favorite hobby outside the show?

[45:17] Allie Mozzie: Oh, yes. Well, a favorite card game. I love Phase 10. Yes, love Phase 10. Love it. I have a lot of hobbies. I love to knit. I really like to cook and bake. I have not been doing a lot of that in previews or since living in New York on the whole, but I love to cook. And I love to knit. And I would say that those are my top two hobbies.

[45:46] Eli Tokash: Yeah, well, we'll have to talk to David and Janine and be like, hey, we need to write in a little knitting moment.

[45:50] Allie Mozzie: Yes, I know Patty has one. I don't know why they haven't like asked me to like, I don't know, it's kind of messed up, but yeah.

[45:58] Eli Tokash: Yeah.

[46:00] Allie Mozzie: Whatever. We'll petition.

[46:01] Eli Tokash: We'll petition.

[46:02] Allie Mozzie: Thank you. Oh my god. Teresa would knit. Like she's wearing those sweaters. She's rocking the cardigans.

[46:07] Eli Tokash: Yes, yes. Instead of ice skating, you're just gonna be knitting on the bench.

[46:10] Allie Mozzie: Exactly. Exactly.

[46:11] Eli Tokash: Well, you're such a queen, and I appreciate you taking the time.

[46:14] Allie Mozzie: Yeah, of course. Break a leg on the rest of your run. Congrats.

[46:18] Allie Mozzie: Thank you so much. I'm Allie Mozzie and I play Patty. Amazing. And we're here at the opening night of Kimberly Akimbo. Very excited. Long time coming. So what does it feel like to finally officially open on Broadway?

[46:30] Allie Mozzie: Yeah, it feels really special. I feel really happy and I feel really like relieved. And I just feel it's like cheesy, but I'm just hashtag grateful to be doing a Janine Tesori, David Lindsay-Abaire musical. I feel really lucky.

[46:44] Eli Tokash: Can you tell me what your first reaction was to reading this script?

[46:48] Allie Mozzie: Uh, well I read the play first, which made me cackle out loud, and that humor transfers over. And then I just feel like when Janine came in with the music, it added like a depth and a heart to it. So you have this wild sense of humor with this depth and this heart. And I didn't know if I was gonna laugh and cry. And in both ends of the spectrum, I felt so deeply. And I just hoped audiences felt what I felt when I first read it.

[47:12] Eli Tokash: Well, I think they certainly do because audiences are seemingly loving seeing the show, whether it was at the Atlantic or here at the Booth Theater on Broadway. So very exciting. Congratulations.

[47:22] Eli Tokash: Um, you are hilarious in the show. I just need to tell you that.

[47:26] Allie Mozzie: Thank you.

[47:28] Eli Tokash: So it's not easy. Comedy and all of the things. So like, how do you keep it fresh every night? And how do you just like stay on your feet and, you know, kind of have fun with the scene partners?

[47:39] Allie Mozzie: I mean, I just really hone into my scene partners. I couldn't ask for more amazing scene partners. I feel like if I'm just like getting chewed in my head or listening too much to the laughs, I just take in Vicky Clark and, you know, Steven Boyer, and it recenters me and that keeps everything grounded, which is important.

[47:56] Eli Tokash: That's incredible. Now, if this opening night was happening when you were in high school, where a lot of these folks are from, these youngins, um, what would you be wearing?

[48:07] Allie Mozzie: What would I be if you were in high school and this was opening night?

[48:10] Eli Tokash: Yes.

[48:11] Allie Mozzie: And you were a high schooler at your time, an opening night. What would you be wearing?

[48:14] Allie Mozzie: Oh my god. Nina over here who wears like the floral stuff and like the different color tights, like that was me in high school. Oh my god, like the thick, the thick chunky shoes, um, the little clips in the hair. I was like, I so relate to Nina's character.

[48:30] Eli Tokash: Stop, I'm obsessed.

[48:31] Allie Mozzie: Yeah. You may have been the inspiration.

[48:33] Eli Tokash: Maybe.

[48:35] Allie Mozzie: I don't think I was the only one wearing those things.

[48:37] Eli Tokash: Fair enough. Well, congratulations on an incredible opening night, and break a leg on the rest of your run.

[48:43] Allie Mozzie: Thank you so much.

[48:44] Eli Tokash: Hi, Bonnie.

[48:45] Bonnie Milligan: How are you?

[48:47] Eli Tokash: I'm doing so well. We're here with Bonnie Milligan. Uh, opening night tonight.

[48:51] Bonnie Milligan: Yes, opening night, so exciting.

[48:53] Eli Tokash: Oh my god. What was tonight like?

[48:56] Bonnie Milligan: It was a long time coming. It's been a long time coming, and it was such an unbelievable crowd. So it was nothing but joy and really fun, super fun.

[49:05] Eli Tokash: How long have you been with this show?

[49:07] Bonnie Milligan: Um, I auditioned for it at the beginning of 2020, and I joined when we started with the Atlantic last year.

[49:13] Eli Tokash: Yeah.

[49:13] Bonnie Milligan: Oh my god. And it's just been one hell of a ride. It's been amazing.

[49:17] Eli Tokash: It's been so great.

[49:18] Bonnie Milligan: Yeah.

[49:19] Eli Tokash: And your character, you're absolutely hilarious in the show.

[49:21] Bonnie Milligan: Thank you.

[49:22] Eli Tokash: I have to say, what is it like to like comedy's not easy, you know?

[49:26] Bonnie Milligan: No.

[49:27] Eli Tokash: Timing and everything, and you always keep it fresh and all the things. Like, how do you do that on a nightly basis?

[49:32] Bonnie Milligan: Um, I think I connect with my co-stars. I always make sure I'm telling the story. We're not just going for laughs for fun. Um, David Lindsay-Abaire has written a really funny book, so there's not a lot required there of me. I just have to deliver it truthfully and honestly be telling the story. And so, and when you hear how the audience is responding, you just sort of you go on a ride and it's really fun.

[49:58] Eli Tokash: Well, this a lot of this show is taking place in high school, you know, it's all that stuff. If you could go back in time to high school or even speak to someone who's currently in high school, and they may be going through a time where someone thinks calling them different, or you know, how what would you tell them to get them through that time?

[50:17] Bonnie Milligan: I think that what makes you different is what makes you special. And so if you hold on to that, one day you'll find some people say you find your tribe, you find your people who will appreciate what that is, or if you're into a certain vocation that's maybe not in the town you're from, that's okay. I came from a double wide trailer in the Midwest with like no money. And I moved to New York City, and here we are on Broadway. So anything is possible. So believe in yourself, surround yourself with people who love you, stay grounded, humble, and nice. That's my advice.

[50:51] Eli Tokash: We are not just here on Broadway. She is a Broadway star. Give me a break. You're too humble.

[50:56] Bonnie Milligan: Well, thank you so much for chatting with me. Congrats and break a leg on the rest of your life.

[52:43] Eli Tokash: But come on, if that doesn't get you excited to see the show, I don't know what will. You all know me, you all know that I love ice skating. So the fact that it has ice skating in the show is absolutely jaw dropping for me and a dream to be in and be a part of, but I will wait my turn and audition hopefully next time around.

[53:07] Eli Tokash: Um no, but it's just so great. I don't if this doesn't get you excited to go see the show, I don't know what will truly. Um you all know that I have some dear friends in the show, which I'm very excited for them. And then of course, you know, to talk to these people and to talk to Matt before his little shop of horrors and all the things. So hopefully there were fun tidbits in here that you all were able to enjoy and get a little chuckle out of.

[53:35] Eli Tokash: Um, but yeah, this was just a fun night, and I wanted to share it all with you because these are always so exciting. And as I mentioned last week, um both episodes of the video portion of these episodes, so everything that you've heard today in the interview section is actually up on YouTube.

[53:53] Eli Tokash: So if you want to know a little bit how these red carpets work, um and just how much crazy it is, both we have both Kimberly Akimbo and Ohio State Murders up on YouTube. So go check it out. YouTube, Take A Bow Podcast, search us up, and you'll see both of those videos, and they are already up, so you will not have to wait for anything.

[54:16] Eli Tokash: And you can just go check them out and watch them now because they're so fun. They really are, and it's fascinating to see what goes on at a Broadway opening red carpet and a Broadway press event. So go check that out if you're interested.

[54:32] Eli Tokash: It's up on YouTube for your enjoyment. And yeah, that's all I have for this week. We have an exciting episode coming out. I've been so thankful to have these red carpet interviews because first of all, it doesn't even feel like I'm recording because it's just so like fun and cool and different, but also it's allowed me to really stock up some interviews, and I have the rest of the year planned for Take A Bow, which is something that just doesn't usually happen.

[55:01] Eli Tokash: It's usually like a week or two weeks before planning, just with school and everything. But for the past two weeks, I've been able to just like, you know, use these as episodes and record some of my favorite people and to record people because usually I'm like, oh, I'm in a rush to get one episode out this week, so they can't do it. Um, but now I've been so flexible and more people able to do it, and it's just so great because we have an incredible lineup for the rest of the year.

[55:32] Eli Tokash: Uh, we have directors and performers and writers for that matter. Uh, we just have a little bit of everyone and everything. So I'm so excited to share the rest of the Take A Bow year with all of you.

[55:45] Eli Tokash: And as I mentioned, it can obviously change at the drop of a dime, truly, but hopefully it won't. And we will even do maybe two episodes a week with these red carpet openings and all these things because that it's just that time of the year, and get you all some extra entertainment before the holiday season.

[56:07] Eli Tokash: And so, so anyways, I appreciate you all for supporting and listening to the show. As always, it is such a treat for me to share all of these wonderful conversations with you and give you more insight on what's going on in the theater world and just hopefully entertaining you for an hour of your week.

[56:26] Eli Tokash: So, all that being said, thank you for allowing me to do that and giving me the space to do that, and continuing to listen. So, with that being said, I will see you all next week with a wonderful episode.

[56:38] Eli Tokash: Who knows what it's gonna be? I'm not even gonna make promises, but very exciting nonetheless. It'll be another great episode. So I will see you then. Bye everyone. Have a great week.

[57:59] Eli Tokash: For this episode's curtain call, I would like to recognize a few people who also deserve to take a bow. This podcast would not be possible without the help of Dory Bernstein, Alan Seales, Kimberly Garrett, and the team at the Broadway Podcast Network.

[57:59] Eli Tokash: Next in line to take a bow are our fabulous editors, Jessica Gorin, who edits the audio of the podcast that you just listened to, and Tessie Tokash, who edits the videos and visuals for this podcast.

[57:59] Eli Tokash: And how about a bow for our executive producer, Chris Grimer? And our final bow are extra special to the patrons Brian Thompson, Pat McMara, the listeners of PCC, as well as all of the other patrons for their continued support.

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[57:59] Eli Tokash: And that wraps up this episode's curtain call. Thank you all again for listening to this week's episode, and I can't wait to see you next week. Bye everyone. Have a great week.