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[0:00] alyvia alyn lind: Hey, it's Olivia Allen Lind, and you're listening to The Art of Kindness.

[0:09] Robert Peterpaul: Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to The Art of Kindness, where we have compassionate conversations with artists from all areas of the entertainment industry who are using their voice to spread joy and make this big spinning planet in the universe a better place to be. I'm Robert Peterpaul, and I'm so glad you're here.

[0:38] Robert Peterpaul: Hello, friends! I hope you're feeling as lucky as a leprechaun today. I feel incredibly lucky as I reflect on a conversation I had this past fall. I was making pumpkin bread then, and it took me until Irish soda bread season to release the episode, but it was such a joy to record, and I'm thrilled to finally bring it to your ears. Today's guest is TV star Olivia Allen Lind.

[1:07] Robert Peterpaul: Olivia Allen Lind comes from a dynasty of actors. Fun fact, her mama is Barbara Allen Woods, who we're currently watching on One Tree Hill. I don't want to be! I know we're late to the party. Olivia began her career at a young age, earning a daytime Emmy nomination right out the gate for The Young and the Restless. She then gained widespread attention playing Dolly Parton in a coat of many colors, which earned her a Critics Choice Award nomination. That was also when I first met her, which you'll hear about.

[1:40] Robert Peterpaul: Since then, Allie has starred in series like Chucky, Daybreak, The Spiderwick Chronicles, Masters of Sex, The Walking Dead, and many more. On the film side, she's worked with Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore in Blended, and Anna Ferris in Overboard. This past fall, Olivia starred opposite Toni Collette in one of my favorite watches of the year, Wayward, Netflix's's hit psychological thriller series from creator Mae Martin. The series ranked in the top 10 on Netflix's in over 35 countries. Olivia is currently in production on a new FX series called Cry Wolf.

[2:21] Robert Peterpaul: I feel so lucky to have shared some time with Allie. It was as tasty as a slice of Irish soda bread. I don't know what that means. And I hope you enjoy it too. I also hope you'll consider spreading the kindness and sharing our show with a friend. We'd love to be friends with you on social media at Art of Kindness Pod and at Robert Peterpaul as well. Also, I'm wishing you a lucky week. Now, without further ado, please enjoy the amazing Olivia Allen Lind.

[2:58] alyvia alyn lind: Hello.

[2:59] Robert Peterpaul: Hello, how are you?

[3:01] alyvia alyn lind: I'm good. How are you doing?

[3:03] Robert Peterpaul: I'm awesome. I'm so excited to be here.

[3:05] alyvia alyn lind: Me too.

[3:06] Robert Peterpaul: You look so nice.

[3:07] alyvia alyn lind: Thank you. I just got off of more press.

[3:09] alyvia alyn lind: So I'm like, I'm ready. Let's I'm like so excited.

[3:12] Robert Peterpaul: You're ready to roll.

[3:13] alyvia alyn lind: It's giving glowing. It's giving pop-up backdrop, actor maybe situation.

[3:18] alyvia alyn lind: Thank you. I did look like it's so funny because I'm like now doing all this press in the place I do audition tapes.

[3:25] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah.

[3:25] alyvia alyn lind: So I'm like, it's like weird to like be doing press for a show in a place that I like filmed the audition to do to be on the show. It's kind of like a weird parable.

[3:34] Robert Peterpaul: That's so full circle.

[3:36] alyvia alyn lind: I mean, I'm on the opposite end because I do do self-tapes, do do self-tapes here, but I'm on the opposite side. I'm not talking about any kind of show.

[3:42] Robert Peterpaul: Well, like I said, I'm so excited to chat with you today. I am loving Wayward and your press circuit even more because I feel like whether you know it or not, you've kind of been infusing kindness into the conversation. And so I can't wait to unpack all of that with you today, much like your characters unpacked their secret boxes at Tall Pines Academy.

[4:04] alyvia alyn lind: Yes, definitely. Thanks for being here.

[4:05] alyvia alyn lind: Of course. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited.

[4:08] Robert Peterpaul: Yay. Well, first of all, okay. This is the weird question I always start with is how are you at accepting compliments and all of the love you're receiving?

[4:17] alyvia alyn lind: You did a very good job just now, I will say.

[4:19] Robert Peterpaul: Oh, thank you.

[4:19] alyvia alyn lind: I feel like it's something I've had to practice. I get like uh everybody always makes fun of me, actually, because I always get really high pitched in my voice. I'm always like, oh, thank you. Like only dogs can hear me. Um yeah, I mean, I think that I'm a person that definitely uh when somebody tries to compliment me on something, I try to like aggressively compliment them back. I'm like, no, it's actually you're doing that, and actually you're the most amazing person ever. Um then I'm like, I'm not in Wayward actually, so that doesn't make sense. Your performance on Wayward was actually so incredible. Like you know, it was cut, but like it was too great. Um, yeah, so I mean I think that like I'm I'm learning how to try to be better at it. But if you compliment me, I'm definitely gonna come back with like a oh, thank you so much. And then the dogs will come out.

[5:17] Robert Peterpaul: You know, I think we can all learn maybe something from Evelyn because she has that line where I think you compliment the soap, and she's like, that's a lovely compliment. I'll accept it.

[5:25] alyvia alyn lind: I'll accept it. Good night, Lila.

[5:27] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah.

[5:29] alyvia alyn lind: Okay. Yeah, that was a great moment. And there's so many good moments I can't wait to unpack in this show. But I guess starting with a very important question. I saw this on your TikTok bio, and I need to know, you love ducks? What's up with the ducks?

[5:44] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my god, you did a deep dive on me.

[5:47] Robert Peterpaul: Um I did, I did. I do love ducks. It's a very uh it's so funny. In another interview I just did like 15 minutes ago, I talked about ducks for maybe 10 minutes of it.

[5:57] alyvia alyn lind: Um Darn it, we did not get the duck exclusive.

[5:59] Robert Peterpaul: It's all good. I will give you even more exclusive. Um duck, okay I God. Um yeah, I love them. I my first Instagram handle and my first ever email was Allie loves ducks. Um I have them all over my room. I collect rubber ducks, my friends give me them on every occasion. My makeup bag says like um a go a girl who loves ducks, all my socks are duck socks. Like, I don't know how it became such a big thing, but I just have a love for them that's so strong. And I want one. I want a baby duck so bad. Um it's just it's been a thing my entire life, though. Like my favorite animal, and it's kind of just like intruded my entire life. They're so I love that.

[6:47] Robert Peterpaul: Are you going to the park with breadcrumbs and just sort of like hoping ducks come up to you feeding the ducks?

[6:53] alyvia alyn lind: I mean, it's gone to the point now where every time there's a duck, like somebody will like tap me on the shoulder and be like, oh my god, there's a duck, and I like scream and I'm like, oh my god. You're like, I don't even know you. How did you know I love ducks?

[7:03] Robert Peterpaul: Well, maybe after this interview.

[7:05] alyvia alyn lind: Yes, I think you hopefully listeners, do a kind act and just send Allie some duck. Do you like Allie by the way? I've heard people call it.

[7:11] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, I know Allie, yeah. That's yeah, that's perfect.

[7:14] Robert Peterpaul: Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody send Allie some ducks. You know, that would be a great kindness. And we are here today to look at your career through the lens of kindness. So Allie, I think it's such a personal thing. I would love to know what does kindness mean to you? And how do you think that definition has evolved over the years?

[7:32] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah. Oh my gosh, what a you know, beautiful question. Um I feel like kindness in a lot of ways recently for me has been in the small things. Um I've noticed with a lot of the um relationships that I hold really close to myself, especially with friendships. Um, it's a lot about the little gestures. It's a lot about, you know, remembering the little things and you know, whether that be like somebody's coffee order or like remembering their favorite song or remembering just small things about people. Um, and you know, just being being kind and being open and um treating people with in putting your heart forward, like putting putting your heart first, you know. Uh just like just not being rude. I feel like I I feel like I encounter more and more rude people day to day. Um no, I'm sorry.

[8:31] alyvia alyn lind: I no no no, it's fun. Like I mean, well, putting your heart first. That's beautiful. In in it feels very weird to me. Um, and so I feel like just, you know, those just about the little things about smiling to somebody when you pass them on the street about telling somebody, Oh my god, that skirt is so cute. I love it. Like telling, telling just just just spreading it in little tiny ways that can just make somebody's days day brighter in a way that you might not know. Um yeah. I mean, I there's been days where I've been like sobbing all morning, and then I go out and somebody's like, Oh my god, I love your shoes. And I'm like, okay, wait, that just made my day a little bit better. And they didn't even know that I was sobbing in my room all morning. So I feel like little things like that can change a day so much.

[9:17] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, well said, friend. It's very powerful. And I think kindness is also being like, There's a duck over there, Allie, and you should go feed it or bring it home.

[9:26] alyvia alyn lind: Well, it's like all of my friends now know that that's like a thing that I love and that brings me happiness and that brings me joy. And now, like I my friend's car yesterday, and he had three that were ducks for me that he found at a store. And he was like, There were aspect, okay. Another thing about me, I love Halloween, and they were Halloween themed ducks. So, like he remembered that it was Halloween and that it was uh ducks, and it was Halloween ducks, and I was like, You are just you know me so well, and I think that's the epitome of kindness is knowing somebody.

[9:57] Robert Peterpaul: That is beautiful. TikTok just sent me this, and I think there is a duck in here. I'll find it by the end of this interview and try and mail to you. But I think there's a duck in here somewhere, I promise.

[10:07] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my god, I love that. I should have them on me.

[10:09] Robert Peterpaul: Oh, okay, perfect. Bring out the ducks. You've been loving ducks maybe since you were three, but you've also been a working performer since you were three, I believe. And you come from not just a family of actors, but of successful working actors, which is even more rare. And Hollywood kind of seems like it's been sort of a norm growing up, and acting, I know is something you all take very seriously, which is amazing. It's such an interesting dynamic, and so I just I would love to learn more about how you all champion each other within your family and sort of are there for each other during these highs and lows because it's not always, you know, glam. Sometimes it's self-taping and then getting close and not getting it, all that stuff. So I would love to hear a little bit about that.

[10:52] alyvia alyn lind: Definitely. I mean, uh, what a better support system to have than to have everybody in your family do the same thing as you. I mean, we um we all sort of doing it at such a young age, and I think that it's been so incredible to have people there who know exactly what you're going through and so close to you to, you know, be the shoulder when you don't get something that you really wanted, or you know, celebrate with you when you get something that you wanted more than anything, and like then working towards and um I think that it's such a specific industry, and it's such a specific job that we have that not a lot of people that are that aren't in it understand fully, and um I think it's it's just been such like so so lucky to to have that that support system our entire lives of you know, first of all, my mom to be there um on set with us like every single day, and to be such a wonderful mentor, and then uh just to have my sisters to lean on and and and be there for and also just like root for. I mean, they're so incredible and so successful as well. So just like getting to watch them and be so proud of them and everything that they're doing, it's it's just all it's all amazing, yeah.

[12:10] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, I love that, and I feel like kindness m must be a huge part of that, right? I mean, I know it's a very big ingredient for the folks that are always working. It's like you want to work with good people, you don't want to work with the person that's gonna come on set and tank the vibe, you know what I mean?

[12:23] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, I mean, I think that that's so important to me on sets is like making sure that no matter what I'm going through and no matter what's happening, I'm showing up to set with my best foot forward, ready to do the job that I'm here for with the smile on my face. I'm like do my absolute best. There's so many crew members and so many people, but like trying to remember everybody's names, and like I love talking to people on set. Like I love just like the people that you wouldn't necessarily come into contact with every day, but you know, everybody's there going towards one goal to make the show the best it can possibly be. And there's so many people that go into making that like that never get mentioned, and like you wouldn't even probably know or a factor on set behind the scenes.

And it's like those people are the people that really are the heart of these shows. We wouldn't have them. And so I mean, like just talking to them and like hearing everybody's life stories, and you get to hear the world, especially filming in different locations. Like, you get to you get crews from all around the world and just getting to talk to them and uh just I feel like you can't go up and have a conversation with somebody without being kind.

[13:40] Robert Peterpaul: So no, you're so right. An important factor, definitely.

[13:44] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, I was on set recently, and I it's like I feel like I'm gonna get in trouble because I'm just trying to talk and hang out with people too much. It's like we're there to work, but there's so much downtime that you just want to vibe and get to know everybody.

[13:54] alyvia alyn lind: 100%. I love like there's my favorite story, one of my favorite stories about filming Wayward is that there was a um thunder, there's a lightning warning when we were filming one day when we were outside, we were doing a car scene and driving, and there was a lightning warning, and there was a church, and we all had to the entire casting crew had to huddle into a little church for like two hours, and it was just like we just talked the entire time. Like no like cell phone service was down. We were in the middle of the woods, like there was nothing like that we could do other than like talk, hear each other's life stories, somebody had a guitar, we were singing, like it was so beautiful. I'm just like it was at the beginning of filming too, so it was before I really knew everybody. So getting that time to like sit and talk to everybody was so so amazing.

[14:39] alyvia alyn lind: So beautiful. I mean, Evelyn didn't get up there and give us a sermon. We didn't have Toni Collette leading everybody.

[14:44] Robert Peterpaul: Toni wasn't there that day, but wow, it half what incredible if she was there.

[14:49] alyvia alyn lind: I love that. Well, you know, it's funny you mentioned singing, playing the guitar because I realized that we met very briefly years ago when you came on a show I worked on called Build Series when you were much younger, and you were promoting a TV movie called Coat of Many Colors.

[15:05] alyvia alyn lind: Blacking out because such a Dolly Parton fan. Love all roads on this kindness podcast lead to Dolly. And I just wonder, you know, how is it working with that icon and getting to know her at such a young age? Because this is all about kindness, and I feel like she embodies that.

[15:20] alyvia alyn lind: Um she's the epitome of kindness. She is kindness. Um, she's everything. I mean, I don't like pardon. I don't think that you can never I don't think that I can ever go up from that. Like, I think like it's like I peaked I peaked at eight years old playing her. Um it was so incredible. She's just the most incredible heart and the incredible most incredible soul, and is so just like I can't describe her in any other way than just icon. Like she has changed so many people's lives and is just the most talented and professional and uh strong businesswoman ever. She's just nobody nobody can dislike her. And if you do, I don't trust your opinion on anything.

[16:12] Robert Peterpaul: Thank you. I'm gonna write that down and put that on a t-shirt.

[16:15] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah. I love her so much. And she especially like I was so young. I was seven in the first movie, and just the way she took me in and kind of took over like a little bit of a mom role was so like was so endearing. Like it was she really took me under her wing. And uh just that was such a crazy huge process for a seven-year-old to be going through, and that world was so huge, and that press tour was so intense, and uh she was just so um she was there for me in every single way, and uh, you know, would lick her finger and get something off my face, and like just like such a like just the smart person you can imagine.

[16:55] Robert Peterpaul: Oh, I love that. I was gonna ask you like tangible ways that she was kind if you remember any, because I mean she'd be the person to learn from.

[17:02] alyvia alyn lind: I guess you just named one, which is like licking some someone's finger and putting it out your face.

[17:06] alyvia alyn lind: Like that. I mean, another one is like she she humored me in the most possible way that she possibly could have. I when I was seven, I learned how to play guitar for the movie. Um, and when I learned how to play guitar, I started writing my own songs. And so one of these days we were standing out in Georgia, pouring rain. It was in the second movie where she played the painted lady. Um, and so she was actually acting in the movie. So in the second movie, we were standing in the pouring rain, and everybody was like, Oh, Dolly, like, come inside, like, come inside. And she's like, I'm fine. I'm I'm good. I'm just gonna stay out here with my umbrella. I don't want to walk in these heels. And we stood out there in the pouring rain with our umbrellas, and she I was had my guitar in my hand, we were just talking, and I was seven, so I was fearless.

Um, and so I was just like talking to her like it was a normal person. And she was like, Um, do you do you write your own? I'm doing a southern accent and butchering it. She's like, Do you write your own write your own music? And I was like, Yeah, actually I I do. And she was like, Well, play me something. And we're saying something. And I played Dolly Parton an original song that I wrote at seven years old. Who else can say that? And it was insane. And I still don't even like, I don't even remember what that song that I sang her was.

[18:29] alyvia alyn lind: It was Was it Jolene? No. Never, no, oh my gosh, no. I wrote it, which was even worse. It was probably I know it's like your big reveal is that you wrote Jolene. No. I know, literally. Um, no, but like she, but then again, like she was so sweet to me. She's like, Wow, that's fantastic. You're gonna be a singer, you're gonna be a songwriter. Um, and just humored in just an incredible way, and it was like it was insane.

[18:51] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah.

[18:52] alyvia alyn lind: Well, thank you for sharing that. I mean, because her story is coming to Broadway, so I wondered if you want to like tap into a different age of Dolly. Like, would you ever be interested in doing that? Because they have the three performers playing three different ages.

[19:06] alyvia alyn lind: Forever and ever. I'm forever, I'm forever hers. Whenever she wants me to do anything for her, I am at her back and call um forever and ever. I I love her so much, and I'm s it's such an honor to have said to be able to say that I portrayed her um in like so so heavy and such a weight. I feel like I'd be like, I'd be terrified to do it now because it's like I'm not seven and fearless and uh anymore, but I would tap into it at any point. Uh if she led me, I'd love to.

[19:38] Robert Peterpaul: Well, I can tell already you have the kindness, which I think is the most important aspect of bringing Dolly to life. Like you just seem like such a good person.

[19:45] alyvia alyn lind: So I'm so much would have to see that I get you're welcome. I know we gotta get to Wayward, but before we do, my wife will come in here and drag me out if I don't just ask you about Revenge for a second, because I think that was like the twistiest binge watch of like it's coming back as it's streaming and people are always asking for a Revenge reboot. Do people come up to you about Revenge all the time?

[20:03] alyvia alyn lind: I mean, and I know you were much younger. I yeah, it's funny because um that show I played the younger version of my older sister Emily. Um so she was the younger version of Amanda Clark and then I was the younger, younger version. Um so it was so cool because we were like in the same show together playing the same character. Um and so yeah, I it was it was so fun. I remember th that was uh uh I had to be drowned. I had to one of my big scenes was I was on the Universal lot, um, in one of like the tanks at Universal Lot, I was drowned um by my mom. Um uh Jennifer Jason Leigh, who's just awesome.

[20:53] Robert Peterpaul: Wow, yeah.

[20:54] alyvia alyn lind: Uh yeah, so I was drowned at Universal when I was like five, I think I was like four or five. Um, yeah, it was like insane. I'd like to practice how to be drowned in a swimming pool in the backyard. It was very interesting.

[21:06] alyvia alyn lind: Um, yeah, it's a chapter of a book. Drowned Universal.

[21:11] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, literally.

[21:12] alyvia alyn lind: Um that show is such a legacy behind it. It's it's it's people love it still to this day. And uh it's yeah, I I need to like I need to watch it all the way through now that I'm older. Um but such a cool credit. It's such a wild ride. And so is Wayward. We gotta get to Wayward flashing forward. I mean, speaking of a show people love, this show is breaking records, I believe. I mean, people are obsessed with it, including myself. You play a struggling teen named Lila, who ends up at a reform school for troubled kids, just for everybody listening at home who's living under a rock, and that's okay too. We love Patrick Starr. That's totally fine. Well, it's clear I feel like she has a good heart. She isn't necessarily making great choices, at least in the beginning. And I wonder what was your way into treating her with empathy and maybe not judging her from the start. Did you find that tricky at all? Or were you immediately kind of like locked into the character?

[22:07] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, I mean, I think that it's impossible to play a character um fully and like with your whole heart without feeling for them. Um because when you're a person and you're living your day-to-day life, you make mistakes and you have to like live in your own body and know that you made those mistakes. And so when you're playing a character that has trauma, yeah, yeah. Um and so when you're playing a character that has so much trauma and so much background and um has gone through so many different events, you you kind of have to give them that same grace and kind of be able to put yourself in their shoes and be able to figure out from a standpoint how you can kind of forgive yourself, but it's like forgiving character.

Um so it's kind of a weird mind roller coaster ride to get into a headspace of a character like this. Um, but I think that to play like I I wouldn't like I have to every character I play I mean even with a character I played in a show called Chucky I was playing like this like terrible bully like so mean like just the worst person you could ever imagine and I was like but she has to have redeemable qualities. You can't play just a villain you have to have the arc of why they're doing it and you know why in Lila's case why she's in this kind of dark hole just to be like a backstory that you create whether you see that on screen or not it has to kind of be set somewhere. In this case we got to see it on screen which is awesome but a lot of the cases you don't get to see it on screen you just kind of have to have in the back of your head.

So yeah it was it was i i I think that I'm very protective over her and I do have a lot of empathy for her and I have a lot of love for her and like I wanna I want to hold her and protect her and and take care of her.

[23:55] Robert Peterpaul: Oh that's beautiful. Well I guess speaking of protection you know you mentioned Chucky got a shout out my friend David Kirshner who's such a kind leader and I mean a genius spooky genius at the helm of this show your kind leader was Mae Martin and I just wonder if there were any acts of kindness from them that stand out. I mean what did you learn from leadership?

[24:16] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah from Mae Yes oh my God I mean talk about leadership in the way of leading a series leading like leading star and then also like showrunner and also writer and also like just everything person. Like we went to them for everything on the show. They created this show so many years ago and has been wanting to make the story since they were a teenager.

[24:44] alyvia alyn lind: And so it was a lot of pressure stepping into this and into this role because I wanted to, I wanted to do it justice, one for the kids that have actually gone through this, and two for them to you know do their story justice of how they wanted it to look and how they wanted it to be perceived and um how they wanted how they wrote Lila and how they wanted her to come across outside of how it was written. Um and so they were so insanely collaborative uh in every single way. So like just wanted to help me in any way possible to make Lila come to life in the best way, and every like day or night, whatever you need, let me know, like any question you might have, little or small, I'll be with your answer. And that just made like bringing Lila to life so much easier because I I felt like I had so much more information on who she is, and um, yeah, it was just it was it was so incredible. They're they're the best, the best leader I could possibly ask for.

[25:49] Robert Peterpaul: I'd love to hear that. Well, humor me with maybe a nerdy tidbit because it I would love to know if there's any kind of nerdy things you did throughout your process, either with May or just on your own as you were creating this character. I mean, there were things I was thinking of while watching it, even all the movies you referenced, the bands. I mean, was there a lot of like watching those movies, getting to know them? Like what sorts of things helped to ground you in this wild world?

[26:14] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, I mean, I watched the Thomas Crown Affair. That's a big thing. Okay. That's a big thing. That was basically my question. Yeah. Yeah, basically. I figured. Yeah, Thomas Crown Affair, Peter Pierce Brosnan. Um love him. Um, but yeah, I mean, I think that music was a huge thing in this show. I mean, look at our soundtrack, first of all, like, round of applause for our soundtrack. We got Radiohead, we got Weezer, we got Blue Oyster Cult. We have like, we have some of the big Third Eye Blind, like we have icons in the soundtrack. And so I think that for getting into the headspace of Lila, music was a very big deal because she is so music-centric. She loves music and she expresses herself in by music in a lot of ways. Um I think one of the biggest turning points for her in the show, well, that's a spoiler, but one of the biggest she one of the biggest printing points in the show has to do with music, kind of in a way.

[27:12] Robert Peterpaul: Okay.

[27:12] alyvia alyn lind: Um yeah, so I think that like music was the biggest thing that I kind of nerded out on. I like did a lot of research. Also, not to mention the research, the extensive research I did into the travel chain industry and to uh these the history of these uh self-help cults from the 70s, and just like all of that was like extensive nerd out research weeks and weeks, and then more on the more light fun side, music was uh was a big help. It's all about balance, you know.

[27:45] Robert Peterpaul: I love that.

[27:47] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah.

[27:47] Robert Peterpaul: And Wayward does deal with this trauma, these institutional systems, as you mentioned, the cult-like schools. I wonder in these times, just for our world, where I think we could all use a little bit of dismantling and kindness and some of that Lila rebellion. What do you think we can all learn from her?

[28:07] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my gosh, yeah. I mean, I think that we can learn from I think sh sh she is such a loyal friend. She's such a loyal person. She would do in her life, like she'll do anything for you. Like, especially with Abby. Like, she will, that is her ride or die till the end. Like, she will take you under her wing and protect you in every single way. And in a way, like by the end of the story, she kind of starts even protecting the kids at Talpines, like in the riot sequence in episode five. Oh, so good. Where she like even she even betrays her friend to protect her. Like she even betrays Abby and like reveals the lie to protect her, which is like a whole other level of protection.

[28:52] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, like she will like it's it's her fourth run, it's like her like her like forethought. The entire season is like protecting Abby. And so yeah, she I think that we can like learn how to be more loyal and more like protective of our friends. I think that a lot of the time I that might be the thing that I'm similar to Lila with is that I'm very loyal sometimes to a fault. Um to the point of like people expecting it. And so I think that just like learn regulated loyalness.

[29:25] alyvia alyn lind: Like I like that, yes.

[29:27] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, regular loyalness, and also just she's so strong and sh her resilience is is so uh so strong. And she, I mean, obviously some stuff happens over the season that kind of breaks that down, but that's like brainwashing. So we can't really blame her for that. Um, but she's such a strong person, and especially with her, you know, sexuality and uh uh her her personality, she's so confident in herself and so forward. Um, and nobody can tell her who she is. Nobody can tell her different at the beginning of the series, so um yeah I really admire that about her.

[29:57] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah that's really cool I admire a lot of those qualities too and I also admire the qualities of Canadians to have a really rough transition here which I think you're maybe half Canadian but I know you filmed there and it's a place known for being kind so I just I feel like I would regret if I didn't bring it up. How how did you enjoy shooting there?

[30:21] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah oh my gosh I mean I yeah I'm half Canadian so I love I love my Canada people. I yes represent la maple leaves we love them. Yeah I think that it's it's such a wonderful place. I love I love all of Ken Dived in Vancouver I filmed in Montreal I filmed in Toronto. I filmed Chucky in Toronto for three years before Wayward. So I spent a lot of time in Toronto and it's become like my second home. I I love it there. It's so awesome and it's kind of got it's gotten to the point now where like I know my places like I know like my I know my park I know my coffee spot I know my work I know my job all the ducks are. I know where all the ducks are I know my like I know my gym I know where I know where everything is and so it feels like a home and yes I I I love I love being there.

The people again like the people are the people are amazing. They're so sweet and they're they're so kind and uh very a very different vibe when you go there from living in Los Angeles. Like people smile at you on the street and and you you got it you get to know the group the person who works at the coffee shop down the street from you. Um so it's uh it's a little different, but in the best way. I I love I love working there.

[31:36] Robert Peterpaul: Well, I need to know. I mean, I know it's a very friendly place, but as you're filming this creepy show there, did anything spooky happen on set?

[31:43] alyvia alyn lind: I mean, we're recording this during spooky season, and I'm a spook and I love spooky stories. I don't know if we have any to share. I love it. Oh my gosh. I mean, we oh weird. Okay, we when we were so we filmed a lot of the indoor uh school stuff at a stage in Toronto, and then a lot of the school stuff was filmed at an actual uh like not even school, but like a building that was a uh marriage counseling retreat in Caledon, Ontario.

[32:16] alyvia alyn lind: Okay, like two hours outside of Toronto, middle of nowhere, very creepy. Um and so we filmed a lot of the stuff there, like the all the exterior and a lot of like the in the cafeteria and the indoor stuff was all filmed there. And there was one day where we were exploring, we were on lunch and we were exploring all of like the out like all of the perimeter of the school, like walking around all outside and going on a little nature walk, and we came across a cemetery in the woods, which was very odd. It was like a huge cross and then a cemetery, and it was very unsettling, and it was in like in this huge grassy field in the middle of nowhere, and like like a 10-minute walk outside of the school. So very weird.

[33:07] alyvia alyn lind: Um that was very unsettling, and and we were like there's some spirits here for sure. Uh but yeah, I mean, I love when things are haunted. I want things to be haunted all the time.

[33:21] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, yeah.

[33:26] alyvia alyn lind: Okay, thank you for sharing that. Thanks for humoring me because I just need all the spooky stories.

[33:31] alyvia alyn lind: Of course. It's my favorite season of all time. I love it.

[33:33] Robert Peterpaul: I know. Come on. Well, I I d I did want to just kinda like open up space for you to expand on something I think you've talked about a bunch, which is that adults don't necessarily stop and ask kids if they're okay. And this show propels forward, the story moves forward because there's such a lack of that. And so I wonder if you have any advice to the adults, the older folks listening who maybe have a younger person in their life, which we all do on just sort of navigating teens that feel like they're struggling and they're stuck. Because it's it's such a hard thing, you know, it's such a hard dynamic. But I feel like it usually like the answer is rooted in something as simple as just asking someone if they're okay.

[34:14] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah. I mean, I think it is that simple. I think that I think that I mean, obviously, teenagers are so complex and the emotions are so intense and so much is going on and 99% of the time a l uh like most of the younger generation has been uh been programmed to just say, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. Um and so it can be rough sometimes, definitely, just to maybe it's not as simple as just saying, Are you okay? Because I think a lot of us are just like don't don't let anybody see emotion. Um but yeah, like hi, how are you isn't even a real question. Hi, how are you good? And like you you already walked by each other.

[34:52] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, exactly.

[34:53] alyvia alyn lind: Um and so I mean I think that like listening listening is such a power. Um, I think being able to be a good listener and being able to create a relationship with somebody younger in your life where they want to talk where they want to talk to you and they want you to listen is also a power.

[35:16] alyvia alyn lind: And so I think just like having open ears and coming at situations without judgment and just listening and hearing rather than lecturing and judging and yelling and and um immediately jumping to conclusions when you hear two words, um, is really important. I think that uh I mean, I love talking to people who have lived their lives to the fullest. I think that it's one of the biggest gifts we have as humans as love is is talking to people who are, you know, in their 80s, who have lived their life to 89 even that have like lived their life to the absolute fullest and being able to hear their stories and listening to their wisdom.

[35:56] alyvia alyn lind: And I think that there's a weird, like there's a weird uh perspective that younger people in this new generation have a wisdom unlike anybody other, because it's their first time living through this part of the world. And so I think that like both both generations listening is just like the most important thing we can do. Listening to each other and talking and having conversations and um and actually like receiving it rather than just being like, okay.

[36:27] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, I feel like hearing you say that too, it's like you can't walk forward if you don't use both feet. And so it's almost like having both of those perspectives is sort of the recipe for I mean, at least trying to solve anything in this crazy world. And you know, we work with an amazing organization called Kindness is Free, which is through the Boys and Girls Club of America. Shout out, and they're doing a lot of great work with that there.

[36:50] alyvia alyn lind: Love it.

[36:50] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah. Just wanted to shout them out. They probably could help the students at Tall Pines. And y'all have a handbook that you gotta follow. And I just I thought it'd be fun, Allie, to break down your kindness handbook here today. So I'm gonna say a statement and you respond in sort of flash round style with your answer.

[37:08] alyvia alyn lind: The first thing that pops into your head if you're down.

[37:11] Robert Peterpaul: Okay.

[37:11] Robert Peterpaul: The timer's gonna start now.

[37:13] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, there's no timer.

[37:14] alyvia alyn lind: There's really no timer.

[37:15] Robert Peterpaul: Okay.

[37:15] alyvia alyn lind: But I'll do it okay.

[37:17] Robert Peterpaul: Here we go. Favorite way to show kindness.

[37:20] alyvia alyn lind: Um compliments.

[37:23] Robert Peterpaul: Uh oh.

[37:23] alyvia alyn lind: I think I like that.

[37:26] Robert Peterpaul: Favorite kindness to receive.

[37:28] alyvia alyn lind: Oh, um, I think small acts, like small, not even acts of service, um, but like small acts of uh I'm a big physical touch person. So like a hand on the shoulder, or like uh like a just or words of gratitude, like words of affirmation, uh, just like a small thing of like I'm proud of you, or like you did good, that kind of thing. Something very small, just like little small things are my favorite.

[37:56] Robert Peterpaul: I love that, which they kind of take away at Tall Pines, no spoilers, but I don't think you're allowed to touch each other or you know, yeah.

[38:02] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, much as well.

[38:03] alyvia alyn lind: It's so creepy.

[38:04] Robert Peterpaul: Okay, the kindest post-audition activity you can do for yourself.

[38:10] alyvia alyn lind: Mm-hmm.

[38:12] alyvia alyn lind: Uh a long shower and spending time outside. I feel like the two times that I think most in my brain and the two times that I'm like take the most time to myself is when I'm in the shower and when I'm outside in nature by myself. I think are the two things that I like love to do most. Also, just like spending time with friends and just completely erasing it from your mind until you proceed in that space. Once you audition, get out of the space. Once the audition's over, don't think about it.

[38:44] Robert Peterpaul: We all needed to hear that.

[38:46] Robert Peterpaul: Throw out the sides, move on, go for a walk. I think that's great.

[38:48] alyvia alyn lind: Or I usually treat myself to a cookie, and it makes me wonder what's a snack of kindness that fuels you.

[38:54] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my god, yes. Um, okay, this is gonna sound so bad, but like a coffee. I love a coffee. Like an iced latte is like my favorite thing ever, and I love it so much. That, or just like a yeah, like a sweet treat, like a cookie, or um, like when I was a kid, I'd get ice cream after every audition. Um, that's a ton of which I actually realized. I just I just realized I stopped doing at a certain age. I should probably bring that back.

[39:20] Robert Peterpaul: That's unfair.

[39:21] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah.

[39:22] alyvia alyn lind: Bring it back.

[39:22] Robert Peterpaul: Come on, ageism.

[39:24] alyvia alyn lind: I'd I do that. I eat way too much ice cream.

[39:26] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah.

[39:26] alyvia alyn lind: Probably. I mean, you know, maybe that's probably a healthy choice, but you know what? Ice cream, it just fuels the soul.

[39:30] Robert Peterpaul: I 100%.

[39:34] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah. Well, I know you and your character are really into music. So I wanted to ask you about a song of kindness that you feel like amps you up.

[39:42] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my gosh. Oh, what a tough question. Music is like the hardest question anybody can ask me. Um I know Song of Kindness. My favorite song. I'm trying to think just like my favorite song right now. My favorite song right now. It's hard because I listen to a lot of depressing music. Um my favorite song that like gets me like is Paper Bag by Fiona Apple.

[40:07] Robert Peterpaul: Oh, that's good.

[40:08] alyvia alyn lind: It's like, it's like not even, it's just like I'm like oh my god.

[40:14] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah.

[40:14] alyvia alyn lind: It's like it's so fun. Um, it's like it makes me feel myself. I love that song.

[40:20] Robert Peterpaul: I love that. That's awesome. And you're probably gonna introduce that to some folks listening, which is great.

[40:24] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my gosh, yes, please. Anything by Fiona Apple, I love. Check it out. Well, lastly, I want to know your favorite way to show kindness to yourself overall.

[40:33] alyvia alyn lind: Oh, um, I love like I love a self-care day. Um, I love a day where I just I don't set an alarm and I sleep in and I wake uh like I wake up and uh again take a long shower and go get a coffee and journal and write, um, and come home and have no to-do list and just like huddle log and uh watch go we go with friends or watch a movie or just like a day where I can do exactly what I want to do without any like anything else uh on my to-do list, I feel like is like the days that I appreciate and like my reset button. So I I definitely need those, uh, especially in this industry. Like you kind of need those days to like reset yourself.

[41:17] Robert Peterpaul: Um is it the Bruno Mars song? He's like, today I don't feel like doing anything.

[41:21] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, exactly.

[41:22] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah. What's your dog's name too? I feel like I can't glaze over that. I need to hear about the dog.

[41:27] alyvia alyn lind: Rocky Lou. She's a little angel. She's literally sitting on the bed right now, staring at me when I just said her name.

[41:33] Robert Peterpaul: Oh she's incredible.

[41:35] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah. I know my cats have been trying to bust in the whole time. That's why I keep looking over here.

[41:40] Robert Peterpaul: Um I'm like, this is not your time to shine.

[41:42] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah.

[41:43] alyvia alyn lind: Scratching at the door the entire time. My last interview, so I was like, okay, you can sit on the bed if you're quiet.

[41:49] alyvia alyn lind: Honestly, been killing it. Been killing the game. Best dog ever.

[41:53] alyvia alyn lind: I wonder, like, in regards to self-kindness, I just feel like it's so tough in this industry as performers. And do you feel like honestly seeing number one like come up on Netflix's for this show? Does that inform how you treat yourself at all with kindness? Like, does that change how you view yourself as an artist?

[42:13] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, I mean, I try not to let any of that stuff affect me as much as possible. I mean I've been doing it since I was three and I've grown up on screen and in front of the camera and I think that there's a lot that can come from that. There's a lot that can stem from that growing up watching yourself a lot of you know self uh thoughts about you know whether that also auditioning like you're constantly changing how you love some people and you're constantly changing your personality and um changing basically everything about yourself to kind of fit whatever role you're going out for. And so it can be it can definitely be very hard on uh your self-esteem in a lot of different ways but I think that over the years my biggest thing is just like separating myself completely from that.

Like my personal life it's been just you know that's my work and that's what I do and it's my passion and I love it. But just kind of separating myself completely in the way that it's not it doesn't have anything to do with who I am as a person. It's not it doesn't affect my my my soul it doesn't it doesn't affect who I am as a person my kindness it doesn't affect um my mood um and honestly at the end of the day like to be completely honest everybody's gonna be like oh she's just like um but to be fully fully transparent and honest if nobody watched Wayward like I would I mean obviously I'm so happy that people are because I think it's such an important message for people to see and such a like not talked about um industry that we're representing in the show.

But if nobody watched it, it like it was such a passion project and like such a such an amazing time to film. And I learned so much about myself and myself as an actor while filming it. And so like it does like it doesn't have anything to do with the numbers, but when the numbers are that amazing, it's like wow, people really are receiving what we did, and um it's just makes it's like the cherry on top. It's just it's incredible.

[44:25] Robert Peterpaul: Enjoying the process, I think that's really smart. You got a good head on your shoulders. I mean, that's that's a good lesson.

[44:31] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, because it's also fleeting too, right? I mean it it moves so fast now more than ever, there's so much content, and so it you can't really cling to that end result because it's not gonna sustain you. And I think that's a really important lesson.

[44:44] alyvia alyn lind: 100%. Yeah, you touched on like the takeaway in the message from the show and representing this thing that really hasn't appeared in media. It makes me wonder is there one lesson or takeaway you hope viewers carry with them after watching Wayward?

[44:59] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, I mean, I hope it opens people's eyes. I hope that um I hope that we first of all, these characters are so real and raw and like uh very extremely well written in the way that uh I think a lot of people are gonna be able to see themselves in it when they watch that when they watch it. And so I always say, like, as an actor, if people feel seen or heard or feel like they're not so alone by watching something that I've been in or a character that I've played, then I've done my job as an actor. Like then we've done what we're supposed to do. But yeah, I I I think that I hope that also people just again take away that these schools exist and that this show is heavily based in fiction and it's all it is a fictional story.

But in a lot of ways, what is happening in the show has happened to a lot of innocent kids that have been, you know, abducted from their homes in the middle of the night and and taken to these abusive correctional schools. Um and so the fact that these schools still exist and the fact that they're still running and still in operation is terrifying in a way, and I hope that um there, I don't know, can be some sort of sh uh awareness to hopefully get some of them shut down or whatever that may look like.

[46:19] Robert Peterpaul: Have you had any kids that have gone through this reach out to you now that the show is out there? Has that happened or yes?

[46:25] alyvia alyn lind: I've had I I have been on TikTok constantly because I love stalking and TikTok and I love seeing people's reactions. I feel like deaf videos, yeah. No, I don't know. Like on TikTok, you get the most like real reactions from the younger generation. Like I feel like when you're watching TikToks, like that's like when you get like the real tea of like whether something's good or not. And so I've been like stalking it. Luckily, TikTok, it's TikTok approved. The show's TikTok approved.

[46:49] Robert Peterpaul: Okay.

[46:50] alyvia alyn lind: Um as it should be. So I was on TikTok and I saw so many videos of people posting like, have you seen this new show, Wayward? Well, guess what? If you're watching it and you're thinking that's so terrifying, I went through this. I went through the same situation. They did the same thing as this, they did the same thing as this, the same thing as this. These exist still aware like spreading awareness for how you know fundraisers and whatever to stop them. Like, there are so many kids who have now seen like now now they're adults that are watching the show, being like, I went through when I was a teenager. And show oh, like sharing photos of them. Like they're I went through a comment section, and like a hundred of the comments were like me at my Tall Pines, and like they put a photo of them as a teenager standing with like staff members.

And it's terrifying. It's wild, but also really eye-opening in a way. Um just uh it's it's incredible to hear people's stories and how resilient people are, and also just so horrifying that so many people have gone through this.

[47:52] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, it's I mean, it's rare when you get a show like this that is wildly entertaining but does have such a good message, which is kind of what this podcast is about. I mean, promoting elements of kindness through your art, and I thank you all for making it. I'm excited that you're seeing that reaction on TikTok, and how that must be so I can't even comprehend. I got goosebumps hearing you talk about that. You watching kids that have been through this having kind of I mean channeled it yourself through for the show. That's that's insane.

[48:20] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, it's it's a wild experience, it's very trippy. Um, but I'm so grateful that I got to be a part of making a show that can help people feel like they're being seen. It's it's really awesome. Again, credit to Mae, also just for writing something that's so uh so great and accurate in so many ways to what these kids have gone through.

[48:43] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah. Oh, wait, we have a little we have a voicemail coming in for you on the kindness voicemail system.

[48:50] alyvia alyn lind: Oh, here we go.

[48:51] Robert Peterpaul: Okay, right now we're gonna play the compliment game. And basically, Alyvia, I reached out to someone in your life for a compliment about you or a loving statement, and it's come through as a voice note, and so you just have to try and guess who said it. Are you down?

[49:06] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my god, yeah! Wait, it's okay. Everyone's beautiful in their own way. It's the compliments, game on the compliment.

[49:16] alyvia alyn lind: Compliment, yay.

[49:21] Robert Peterpaul: Don't normally get voice notes, so there's usually a better intro to this game, but I'm very excited.

[49:25] alyvia alyn lind: I tried to disguise this person's voice, but this person.

[49:30] Robert Peterpaul: Well, okay, you'll see.

[49:32] alyvia alyn lind: So this is like a semi-disguised version. I'm gonna play it for you, and then you can ask me yes or no questions. I don't know too much, and we'll just say you get three guesses. Okay.

[49:43] Robert Peterpaul: Okay, okay, okay, here we go. You ready?

[49:46] alyvia alyn lind: Yes. This is good. Uh hello, good day. Um I'm I'm Australia's sweetheart, Toni Collette, and uh the thing I love most about Olivia Alan is probably uh her weird thumbs, and I also really like the way that she gets so excited about uh certain types of things. If if people say something in a conversation, she'll go, oh my god, we stop. No, we stop. It's so cool. So uh I really love that about her. She's got a great taste in music. Please ask her about a music taste because it's fantastic, it's quite keen, and I love Olivia, and uh, where's my Oscar? Alright, good day.

[50:41] Robert Peterpaul: It's a fan that I know exactly who it is.

[50:45] alyvia alyn lind: No, that's excellent.

[50:46] Robert Peterpaul: Who is it? Is it Sydney Talflip?

[50:49] alyvia alyn lind: It is Sydney, it is the Abby to your Layla, yes.

[50:53] Robert Peterpaul: I know my I know my Abby anywhere.

[50:56] alyvia alyn lind: I know her anywhere.

[50:58] Robert Peterpaul: Yes, you do. Even when she's Toni Collette.

[51:01] alyvia alyn lind: And I'll just give you a this is the hello. Good guy. Um I'm I'm Australia's sweetheart, Toni Collette. That was just a taste of it without the crazy voice effect. But thank you, Sydney. The way that I knew it was literally her from the beginning is because she literally she loves that Australian accent.

[51:22] Robert Peterpaul: Does she?

[51:23] alyvia alyn lind: She's so good at it. Like she does it constantly. And it's hilarious. Like every single time that Tony's mentioned in an interview, she starts going, I Tarney. Like he starts doing it. It's like so hilarious. I love it. Oh my god. I love you, Sydney. Thank you so much for giving me that voice note. I love you so much. You're so sweet. Cayman Clutch literally got it maybe an hour ago or an hour, like right before we started. So just in time. Thank you, Sydney.

[51:50] Robert Peterpaul: I need to know if they've done this accent for Tony. Have does Tony know about this impression or is this?

[51:56] alyvia alyn lind: Tony knows. Tony. She's right in front of Tony. Tony just laughs. Uh it's hilarious. I mean, it's a great it's a great accent. Like, she has a great Australian accent. Um, that's my girl. I love her so so much. And that was so, so sweet of her. I love her.

[52:12] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah. Well, you did it so naturally, but I would love for you to expand on that. What what was it like getting to know and working with Sydney? I mean, the i if you two didn't have that sort of sympatico and that relationship, probably wouldn't have been a fun process.

[52:26] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah. Oh my god. I mean, she like we met each other and immediately got thrown into this. Like, like we were we met each other for our final chemistry read, and we were put in a room, just the two of us, and they were like, Well, you should probably like meet each other for at least like an like 30 to an hour before we do this. You want to have like some sort of chemistry. And so we sat in a conference room and talked for an hour, and I went by felt like five minutes, and we became such fast friends. Like, I keep saying it's probably the fastest I've ever felt so connected to somebody. She's so like the definition of kind, the definition of hard working, um, and so talented in every single way, and I just it was so lovely to get to come to work every day and hang out with her and work with her. And I could not imagine a better Abby to my lily. She's my favorite so much.

[53:24] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah. I love that. I wish in life everybody could approach things as if they were they knew they were gonna play each other's friends. You know, like if you had that mindset when meeting people and that common ground, I think it could just make for better connections all around.

[53:38] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, definitely. I mean, it was also like scary because I went into it, went into this chemistry and I flew to Toronto, so I had like the whole flight from LA to Toronto, like thinking about this chemistry, like so scared because it was my last mission. And then um, like walking into this room, I was terrified. I was like, Oh my god, if this girl's like a tyrant and so mean and hates me, then this is gonna be like this is gonna be so rough. We have to be best friends. And I walk in and she goes, Oh my god, Olivia's Sony Street Job, Cindy, and I'm like, Oh my god, it's so nice for the job, Olivia. And we like sat and talked about high school musical for like an hour. And I brought I brought um I brought scented uh markers with me because in the scene that we auditioned with, it was the first scene where I'm drawing on her. And so I like drew all over her arm, and like it was just it was immediate. We were such fast friends.

[54:29] Robert Peterpaul: The scented markers, though, that's next level. That just took me back.

[54:35] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my god. Yeah, I was like, we're tapping into the 2000s.

[54:38] Robert Peterpaul: Yes, yeah, come on. And high school musical. Are you a big high school musical person? Is that are you we're all in this together?

[54:44] alyvia alyn lind: Okay. 100%. Like, yes, I love it. My Gabriella and Sharpay were my uh idols growing up. I love them so much. Um yeah, best movie ever. Like there's nothing much better than that. It's just it's perfect movie.

[55:01] Robert Peterpaul: Well, you're sort of in the high school musical club on here because Corbin Blue is one of the only other guests that we surprise someone with. Well, actually, Lucas came in and surprised him like in the Zoom, but with the voice. Usually it's just me reading the compliment. So you're in you're in the high school musical club.

[55:16] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my god, I love it. That's so cute.

[55:18] Robert Peterpaul: Oh my gosh, no, Sydney would never pass up a chance to do a voice or like uh to do a recording or uh video or anything.

[55:24] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah. To do a bit, to do a bit. Did that ever happen on set, by the way, with all these good vibes? I know it's such a serious show, but what can only stop a series show are the giggles.

[55:34] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my god, like constantly. We were I don't think we were ever not doing a bit, actually. Like we would uh Sydney at the helm, of course, would uh we'd make movies.

[55:47] Robert Peterpaul: We'd we'd fully make like full movie scenes, and uh Sydney's now rolling them out on Instagram now.

[55:54] alyvia alyn lind: I saw that the sixth sense one.

[55:58] Robert Peterpaul: Um they did um they did what did they just did? She just put one out?

[56:02] alyvia alyn lind: She put out um what's the uh the the one that's not a Christmas movie, but it's like a movie about like crazy, like uh crazy stuff going. It's like uh war movie. Wait, hold on. I'm like Oh my god, wait, I'm so intrigued. It's not a Christmas movie, it's not a war movie, but it's crazy.

[56:20] Robert Peterpaul: Uh hold on.

[56:21] alyvia alyn lind: During Christmas time.

[56:23] Robert Peterpaul: Okay, we're gonna fact check this. This is uh Die Hard.

[56:27] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my god, I don't know.

[56:28] Robert Peterpaul: Die Hard.

[56:29] alyvia alyn lind: Oh, your description was accurate.

[56:31] Robert Peterpaul: Yes. Um people do say it's a Christmas movie, but I don't want to make anybody mad.

[56:36] alyvia alyn lind: Um, but you're right, it is what it isn't.

[56:38] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah.

[56:39] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah, they made Die Hard. We oh my favorite one uh is that we recreated the bet on it scene from High School Musical, and I was Zach.

[56:48] Robert Peterpaul: And we did it on the on the outskirts of uh the tall pine school.

[56:52] alyvia alyn lind: Um though like bit after bit after bit after bit, constantly. It was so fun.

[56:58] Robert Peterpaul: That's amazing. Well, if again, uh everyone, I I am in the midst of this show, and I I didn't want to rush to finish. I usually try and finish things before I talk to people, but I didn't want to rush because I was like, I love this and I can't let this go away. But if for some reason there's another season, you can do stick to the status quo in the cafeteria.

[57:16] alyvia alyn lind: Yes.

[57:17] Robert Peterpaul: Oh my god. No way we didn't think about that.

[57:20] alyvia alyn lind: Like that's perfect.

[57:21] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah.

[57:22] alyvia alyn lind: I did it in high school. I was I played the cello. I was the cello guy.

[57:25] Robert Peterpaul: I was like, Oh my god.

[57:27] alyvia alyn lind: Oh my god. I like I need my Sharpe moment where it's like, this is not what I want.

[57:32] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah.

[57:35] alyvia alyn lind: I need life.

[57:37] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah.

[57:37] alyvia alyn lind: That's probably Toni Collette's inner monologue as Evelyn as y'all are disrupting shit. Although she just twist it, yeah. Never mind. I'm not Sharp Hay. I'm so sorry that I would even ever say that. Tony Cole, it's our pay. That is just perfect.

[57:49] Robert Peterpaul: She is staying there. There we go. She's staying there with her glasses and like this is perfect. Need that happened. And I just gotta say Yeah, I think you guys could do like a little grid of which character is which from high school musical to the musical and I love it.

[58:03] alyvia alyn lind: This is great. You've been so generous with your time. I know I gotta let you go. I would just appreciate it if we could end our time together by you sharing a tangible kindness tip. So something you would like every listener out there to do on their own corner of the world to try and build a kinder world.

[58:19] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah. I mean, I'm just I feel like I just like keep going back to what I say earlier with like just the little like the little things like I saying somebody has a cute top or smiling at somebody on the sidewalk, or um, you know, helping somebody like put their bag into their car or just like little tiny things that you can do every single day just to um spread spread kindness and and spread love and um listening to people when they talk to you. And I mean, I think that like one of the another thing that I should have said earlier that like I appreciate so much is when I'm in a large group of people and I'm talking, and somebody else starts talking, and then like I kind of like stop talking, and then one there's only like usually like one person that stares at me, and it's like, no, I'm listening, continue.

Like, I think that that's such a big, a big like thing, and it just makes you feel so seen when like everybody turns every person, the one person's like, no, keep going, I'm talking. So I think that that's something that you can do that'll make be careful though, because it might make somebody like literally fall in love with you because I think that that's like such a special thing to do. Um yeah. Like I feel like kindness can be anywhere from just again, like saying you have cute shoes to paying for the coffee of the person behind you. Like, um, there's there's so many things you can do. Just I and then also just the most obvious one, just being a nice person from day to day and just being kind to you know who you need and and uh yeah. I think that there's a lot of things.

[59:58] Robert Peterpaul: Those are beautiful.

[59:59] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah.

[1:00:01] Robert Peterpaul: And I also really love you got me thinking when you're in a big group and you say something, not only the person that will be like, I'm still listening, but after it goes off on another tangent, the person will be like, Oh, but you were saying, you know, about when you were at your lake house with your family, like the person that brings it back.

[1:00:16] alyvia alyn lind: Yes, yes, yes. Be that person. That person is like the best person in the room. I love that person. I try to be that person constantly. Like I'm always listening to 10 different conversations because I'm always like, okay, wait, that person said that, and then they got cut off by this person's model, make sure that they can finish their point at some point. Like I'm always like Yeah. Close the circle.

[1:00:37] Robert Peterpaul: That's beautiful. And as actors, I mean it's so important to listen. So it's a such a great skill all around. And I thought you were gonna say when I was listening to you earlier, uh, about remembering the little things about people too. I loved how you said that and sort of just like in unexpected moments bringing it out and be like, Oh, I brought you a duck, because I remember one time you said you love ducks, and it's all gonna end on ducks here.

[1:00:57] alyvia alyn lind: Yeah. Yes. That's like the only way that it would possibly be good to end. You need to end on ducks.

[1:01:02] Robert Peterpaul: Ducks and ducks.

[1:01:04] alyvia alyn lind: But thank you so much. I'm I'm so grateful that these younger generations have you to look up to. I think you have such a great head on your shoulders, like I said before, and you just seem like such a kind person doing good work. So thanks.

[1:01:14] alyvia alyn lind: Thank you. So much. I really appreciate it. This has been so much fun. I can't not believe that this has been an hour because this has been like the fastest. It feels like it went by so fast.

[1:01:23] Robert Peterpaul: Oh I'm so glad the faster than a duck going across a pond.

[1:01:28] alyvia alyn lind: And I know. Sorry, sorry, I'm gonna get really corny.

[1:01:31] Robert Peterpaul: No, I love it. Until next time, remember everything is gonna be a okay.