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[0:00] Caroline Arapoglou: Hey, I'm Caroline Arapoglou, and you're listening to The Art of Kindness.

[0:30] Robert Peterpaul: Hello, friends. Are you a Pogue or a kook? I'm a kook in the sense of being silly, like, you know, that kind of kooky kook. Anyway, today's guest is definitely a Pogue, at least on screen. I mean, she's got Pogue in the last name. I'm so thrilled to be joined by the kind-hearted actress Caroline Arapoglou. Caroline Arapoglou discovered her love for performing at an early age through dance and theater. She made her feature film debut in Like a Boss opposite Tiffany Haddish, Rose Byrne, and Selma Hayek. You may have seen her lighting up television series like Atlanta, The Walking Dead, The Resident, Stranger Things, which I did ask her about, or a show she's become most known for, Netflix's global hit, Outer Banks.

The Outer Banks, paradise on earth. We're the Pogues, and our mission this summer is to have a good time all the time. You guys ready for Jackson, Lou? Caroline has played Rose Cameron on all seasons of the hit series, which comes to a compelling close this very week on Netflix. I can't wait to watch it, and perhaps you're listening in the future, in which case you probably already did watch it, but this conversation will still be interesting and relevant because it's about kindness and so much more. In addition to her work on screen and stage, Caroline is a passionate advocate for animal welfare and women's health initiatives. She resides in Atlanta with her family. I hope you'll reside, I don't know what this means, on our social media channels, at Art of Kindness Pod and at Rob Peter Paul.

We're forming a little kindness community over there, so please join us. Oh, audio hug. Also, please leave a five-star review wherever you listen to us. It's a great digital act of kindness that you can do or share the show with a friend. We want to keep growing and going. Well, now we're going to go into the episode. Now, without further ado, please welcome the kind Caroline Arapoglou.

[2:49] Robert Peterpaul: Hello, Caroline. Thanks for being here.

[2:54] Caroline Arapoglou: Thanks for having me.

[2:56] Robert Peterpaul: First of all, I hear you're a theater kid, so I'm kind of extra pumped to talk to you.

[3:07] Caroline Arapoglou: I am such a theater kid. I'm such a theater kid.

[3:09] Robert Peterpaul: That's how you got your start, right?

[3:11] Caroline Arapoglou: It is. It is. I truly got my start doing theater in elementary school, middle school, like any other little kid doing school plays. Then I did a lot of professional theater, musical theater specifically when I was first starting out. Yeah, and now I've kind of moved into the, you know, the T-fold a bit, but I'm dying to get back on stage.

[3:32] Robert Peterpaul: Oh my gosh, yes. Broadway's calling. Do you have a dream show that you would die to do?

[3:37] Caroline Arapoglou: A dream show? I mean, oh, I mean, look, like everybody wants to do Roxy, you know what I mean? And I have a dance background and I love Fosse, so that's an obvious one off the top of my head. Oh my god, yeah. Six, it's six. It seems like, I'm trying to think of ones that are fun to pop in and out of. But yeah, I've been in New York on and off and I've seen so much great theater lately, so I'm just like really excited to like, you know, think about maybe getting back on stage.

[3:59] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, that'd be so exciting. Those are two great picks. The name on everybody's lips today is Rose, though. I buried the lead. I gotta say, congratulations on, I guess, the full story of Outer Banks as it comes to a close here. Like I told you, I'm such a fan of the show. I think it's, I mean, for lack of a better pun, I guess, just a treasure. That's so good. As we're kind of at the top of the wave here before it rolls to shore, here come the metaphors, everybody. I'm sorry. I tried to stop myself. I couldn't. How are you feeling? How are you feeling right now in this moment?

[4:30] Caroline Arapoglou: In this moment? Honestly, very grateful. I think just like sitting down and, you know, getting to talk about the show, it like kind of forces you to reflect on the time spent and all of the amazing experiences. It's obviously bittersweet. Yeah, I just feel grateful and excited. And, you know, from a practical acting standpoint, when one job ends, there's immediately the like, okay, what's next? So I have that in there too, because, you know, I'm an actor and that's just part of it. But yeah, I think like this final, like you said, the crest of the wave just feels, I feel nostalgic. I feel grateful. I just feel really joyful about all of it.

[5:08] Robert Peterpaul: Oh, I'm so glad. I'm glad you bring that up too, because the actor's lifestyle is definitely something I felt we could unpack together and something that I'm very interested in asking you about, of course, in addition to Outer Banks. But before we really get there, I'm wondering, Caroline, from growing up, I think, in Illinois?

[5:24] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah, correct. Yeah.

[5:26] Robert Peterpaul: Chicago, Illinois. That's another show. To now, what do you think is your definition of kindness and how do you think it's kind of evolved over the years?

[5:36] Caroline Arapoglou: I think my definition of kindness is, for me personally, and I like to be an open book, I think that there's in this industry kind of an idea or an air of if you know, you know. And it's kind of a bummer if you feel like you don't know. So anything that I feel like I've learned and I've learned by trial and error, and I still have so much to learn. But if I have friends or anybody that has questions or how does this work? How does that work? I just try to be as much of an open book as I can and share as much helpful information as I can, whether it's, you know, I can only share my experience, but I just try to make sure that if there's someone that has a question about how something works or, you know, anybody that just wants some insight to just really try to give it so that they're not trying to, it can feel really exclusionary, I think.

It's easy to feel like there's in and there's out. And I just try to make sure that I can do my part to open that door a little bit. And if there's any way I can help, even if it's just like how this works or how that works. And just to be frank, there are so many things that I still don't know that I'm needing to ask people or, you know, to go to people who have been doing this for much longer than me. And since so many, I've been shown that kindness so many times, I just try to pass that along.

[7:05] Robert Peterpaul: Oh, that's so generous. I love that. And it's true even in the sense of every set is different. So you might know something on one set and then go to another and it's like, oh, they call standing on your mark something different. You know what I mean?

[7:16] Caroline Arapoglou: Oh no, totally, totally.

[7:18] Robert Peterpaul: You're always kind of relearning.

[7:19] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah. And it's like, I know exactly what it feels like. I remember like being on a set and like, you know, the language on a film or TV set, it's a different language. And I remember like being like, I don't know what any of that like, you know, when I was first starting out, I don't know what any of that is. And you just try to like stay out of the way and do your job. So now if I can, you know, try to help, you know, if there's someone that doesn't know the lingo or is new or is only going to be on set for a day, just try to make sure that they don't feel like they're in the way.

[7:47] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah. I'm curious, and I don't know if this is like overanalyzing things, but I know you grew up surrounded by a lot of family and like a pretty big family. Did you see parallels in that sense of sort of like finding your voice amongst chaos?

[7:59] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah, you know, I think so. I think that like, you know, growing up in a big family and being around like a ton of, you know, cousins all the time, you just try to, you find out where you fit. And I think that, yeah, it's helped me maybe, maybe without even realizing it, it's helped me maneuver like the chaos of being on a set or, you know, like, you know, doing a press day. It's like you kind of just got to take a deep breath and go.

[8:26] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, I know. I'm sure it could be a lot. Finding Where You Fit. That's a good title for something. I don't know. But I was, okay, I was bouncing around on your IMDb. And it looks like it's been a decade since your first, I think, TV co-star, which was a waitress, I guess, in Atlanta, to now wrapping a series regular role. I mean, that's kind of, I guess, poetic in itself to have like a decade between the two.

[8:49] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah, I think so. You know, it's so funny, that role, when you're first starting out, like, the thing you're like dying for is a role with a name. You know what I mean? Like, you're like, please have a name. And, you know, waitress actually on Atlanta. I still have people talk to me about that because the writing, it was Hiro Murai, who now is doing everything amazing, but the direction of that scene, and then like Donald, it was so, it was such a moment. And I just kind of got to like, be in it for a moment with them. And it kind of like caught on. So it's funny that, that to me is still one of my favorite credits. I'm so proud of that episode, because it was my TV debut. But like, I look back and I'm like, that was good. Like, good job.

[9:32] Robert Peterpaul: Oh, I love that. That's awesome. It's awesome when you can feel that.

[9:35] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah. And it's so cool that it was on Atlanta. And it was, I'm in Atlanta. You know what I mean? I'm so proud that that was my TV debut. In fact, I had filmed another show, of which I will not reveal the name before that, that didn't make the air, and it would have made Atlanta not my debut. And so like, everything works out for a reason. Because now I can be like, oh, yeah, that was my TV debut when really there was something that didn't make the cut, but that's okay.

[9:58] Robert Peterpaul: Okay, no, it worked out. It worked out for the best. And you're like, I strictly do shows that are named after places. It's like Atlanta, Outer Banks, Sleepy Hollow was in there. And also going back to what you said, too, I'm reminded, like, I did a film semi recently, where I had a couple lines, and I hit on the lead. And then my, I mean, in the in the scene, everybody, let me clarify that you're like, Oh, kindness. And then my agent negotiated to get a name for the character. Like, I didn't realize that was a whole separate thing that like, as an actor, you never even think about that. Like you want the name, but you don't realize it's a whole thing that goes into conversations between no. And even then, like, I remember when I was on The Resident, I was Noni Turner. And I remember I was like, I have a last name like, Oh, oh, yes.

[10:43] Caroline Arapoglou: No, it's such a thing. It's a just specific actor thing that you wouldn't know unless like you're in it. So I totally get it. It's so crazy. Okay, speaking of being in it, I do need to ask you about another one of my favorite shows before we fully get to Outer Banks, which is Stranger Things. And you, you were in such an iconic Karen Wheeler lifeguard scene. I mean, you weren't just in the show, but you were in like one of the most memorable scenes.

[11:01] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah. And I think you're in, you know, four episodes.

[11:04] Robert Peterpaul: I was. Yeah. What did being on set for that show feel like just because it has such like a massive pop culture fan base around it?

[11:09] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah, it was like, it really was like stepping into a fever dream. I was such a because I was such a fan of the show by the time I joined the show. And so not only am I like going on to the show, which I've been watching for a couple years at that point, but it's got such a hyper specific look and feel. So now only, not only am I like on the show that I love, but like, I look like I'm on the show, like the transformation they do in hair and makeup. I remember like looking at my hair and makeup in the trailer and being like, what is happening? Like, you know what I mean? It was so special. And that, that, that whole day filming at the pool, which ended up being the teaser trailer, which practically just like practically as an actor was such a gift because you can't say that you're on the show.

Like you can't tell anybody that you're on that show. Obviously it's like super secret, but the trailer came out like three or four months before the show came out. So then I could be like, I get like, I literally like, I might've put it on my reel because I'm like, this is, you know what I mean? So it was like, practically as an actor, it was such a win to like, have that because then I got like three extra months of using that credit publicly.

[12:21] Caroline Arapoglou: You have to keep it so locked down. Um, but gosh, filming that show was, uh, it was really cool. And like I said, just the, the artistry and the transformation of the hair and makeup. And then I got to shoot at the Starcourt mall, which they had like, so cool. Oh my gosh. And it was like, they turned it into like an exact, exact replica of a mall from that time. And it also was like Midwestern, which is like what I know from that time period. So it was like, there was like a ground round, do you know what ground round is? It's like a restaurant. Okay. Yeah. There was like a wicks and sticks, you know, tell me about it. No, tell me about all of it. Wait, that sounds familiar. Okay. All of these, like these shops, like that I grew up with in my mall.

So like wicks and sticks was like a candle shop. And then ground round was kind of like, ground round was like, it was like, it had mustard and green. Those were like the colors. I was like the color of the signage. It was kind of like, almost like a more casual TGI Fridays. They're in a lot of malls. Okay. Yeah. That was so trippy because I got to like, see all of these like relics from my childhood, specifically being from the Midwest.

[13:21] Robert Peterpaul: Oh my gosh. Yeah. That whole show was a dream.

[13:25] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah. That's insane. Because I was also a mall kid and I think we're the same age, but I went to malls in New Jersey, which actually the mall we have in New Jersey, the Short Hills Mall is like, it's like a museum. It's super fancy. So there's none of that, which is such a bummer. But I wish Netflix would like build the mall and let us go. The mall was like the artistry behind the scenes and the people that worked on that and like the attention to detail was like, it was amazing. So I guess looking at your artistry and what you bring, that show is so specific, right? And a lot of actors maybe could spiral before going into something like that. How do you find the balance of I guess this goes back to raising your voice, like asking questions being like, Oh, I love that 80s hairstyle, but like this kind of fits like, how did you strike that balance on a show like that? I'm just curious.

[14:08] Caroline Arapoglou: I think for me, so much of the energy that I bring to a set starts with my experience before, whether it's in like a hair and makeup test or if it's in wardrobe fittings. And I worked with Amy Parrish on that show. She did all of the wardrobe. She's amazing.

[15:17] Robert Peterpaul: Welcome to The Art of Kindness. Today, we have a very special guest, Caroline Arapoglou, known for her role as Rose Cameron in Netflix's hit series Outer Banks. Caroline, thank you for joining us!

[15:37] Caroline Arapoglou: Thank you for having me! I'm excited to be here.

[15:57] Robert Peterpaul: So, Outer Banks is coming to its final season. How are you feeling about that?

[16:17] Caroline Arapoglou: It's a bittersweet feeling, honestly. I'm so proud of the work we've done, but it's hard to say goodbye to the characters and the crew that I've grown so close to over the years.

[16:37] Robert Peterpaul: I can imagine! You’ve had quite the journey on the show. What has been a standout moment for you?

[16:57] Caroline Arapoglou: There have been so many! One of my favorites was filming the night shoots while I was pregnant. It was challenging, but the support from the crew made it all worthwhile.

[17:17] Robert Peterpaul: That sounds incredible! How did you manage those late nights without coffee?

[17:37] Caroline Arapoglou: Honestly, it was tough. I had to rely on other ways to keep my energy up, like staying active and eating well. Plus, the excitement of being on set kept me going!

[17:57] Robert Peterpaul: That's amazing. Speaking of support, can you share any acts of kindness you experienced from your co-stars or the crew?

[18:17] Caroline Arapoglou: Absolutely! Madison Bailey, for example, was always checking in on me and making sure I was okay. It really made a difference during those long nights.

[18:37] Robert Peterpaul: That's so sweet! It’s great to hear about the kindness behind the scenes.

[18:57] Caroline Arapoglou: Yes, it really is. Kindness is such an important part of our industry, and I think it often goes unnoticed.

[19:17] Robert Peterpaul: It definitely does. You mentioned the challenges of auditioning earlier. Do you still experience those meltdowns sometimes?

[19:37] Caroline Arapoglou: Oh, for sure! Auditioning can be so nerve-wracking, and I still have my moments. But I try to remind myself that it's all part of the process.

[19:57] Robert Peterpaul: That's a great perspective. What advice would you give to someone going through similar experiences?

[20:17] Caroline Arapoglou: I would say to be kind to yourself. It's okay to feel overwhelmed, but remember that every audition is a chance to grow and learn.

[20:37] Robert Peterpaul: Such wise words! Now, shifting gears a bit, how has becoming a parent influenced your approach to your career?

[20:57] Caroline Arapoglou: It's changed everything for me. I find that I’m more focused and driven, and I want to set a good example for my child. It’s all about balance now.

[21:17] Robert Peterpaul: That’s beautiful. Balancing work and family is no small feat.

[21:37] Caroline Arapoglou: It really isn’t! But I think it’s important to prioritize what matters most to you.

[21:57] Robert Peterpaul: Absolutely. And what do you hope your child takes away from your experiences in the industry?

[22:17] Caroline Arapoglou: I hope they see the importance of kindness and hard work. I want them to know that it’s okay to be vulnerable and to always strive for their dreams.

[22:37] Robert Peterpaul: That’s such a powerful message. Thank you for sharing that with us.

[22:57] Caroline Arapoglou: Thank you for having me! It’s been a pleasure to chat about kindness and the journey we’re all on.

[23:17] Robert Peterpaul: Likewise! I can’t wait to see what you do next.

[23:37] Caroline Arapoglou: Thank you! I’m excited for what’s ahead.

[23:57] Robert Peterpaul: And to our listeners, be sure to catch the final season of Outer Banks.

[24:17] Caroline Arapoglou: Yes, I hope everyone enjoys it!

[24:37] Robert Peterpaul: Thank you for tuning in to The Art of Kindness. Until next time, spread kindness like confetti!

[24:57] Caroline Arapoglou: Bye everyone!

[25:17] Robert Peterpaul: Bye!

[29:34] Caroline Arapoglou: That word is so overused. Everyone has to have a village, but it's true.

[29:42] Caroline Arapoglou: My husband is amazing. He's truly a 50-50 parent. I can leave and he's got it. The same for him.

[29:52] Caroline Arapoglou: That's huge. I have both my parents and his parents that live in Atlanta.

[29:59] Caroline Arapoglou: And they filled in the gaps and watched the kids when we were both working.

[30:07] Caroline Arapoglou: My family, I have to say, just really made it happen. I couldn't have done it sanely without them.

[30:17] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah. Oh my gosh. I love that. Well, thanks for playing this little silly game over here.

[30:21] Caroline Arapoglou: Totally. I love it. You went through a lot of life shifts while filming this show, from what I read, including being pregnant, as we referenced, on screen, which I know you had a whole journey with.

[30:29] Robert Peterpaul: Well, as an actor over here about to have his first child in October...

[30:34] Caroline Arapoglou: No! Oh my gosh, wait, when? Congratulations!

[30:39] Robert Peterpaul: Thank you. October 2nd.

[30:43] Caroline Arapoglou: Oh my gosh, so soon.

[30:48] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah. So mom is working downstairs. She's hitting that point where it's a little bit painful to move around and she's not on a set.

[30:54] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah. I just wonder, I would love, and I know you especially champion women and other parents, and I see all the time on your... Not all the time. I mean, when I was researching for this, I'm not always looking at your Instagram comments. Maybe I am. But I see so many people just thanking you for kind of being this example. And I'd love any lessons that you've learned about balancing the professional dream and the personal dream.

[31:14] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah. No. And then I want to talk to you about having a baby. I'm so excited.

[31:18] Robert Peterpaul: Oh, I'll take any advice.

[31:21] Caroline Arapoglou: I think that one thing that becoming a mom did is it, especially a mom to a daughter, is I try so much harder to be kinder to myself. I'm a work in progress. But I try to go easier on myself. And because I don't want to ever pass down this idea of just being so hard on yourself for no reason or just being hypercritical, I think I'm trying. That has been a big change of being a mom. And it definitely has carried into my work. That has carried into my work a lot.

[32:01] Caroline Arapoglou: And especially filming this season, also while being pregnant with my second, physically, your physical body is out of your control. So with each episode, I'm getting more and more pregnant. That's obviously not part of the plot, but as an actor. And so my body's changing and my face is changing. And it's totally, what am I going to do about it? I'm pregnant. You know what I mean? And I'm a mom and I have this job. And this is how these things are pushing up against each other right now. And as an actor, it was actually really cool. I was saying this to someone the other day. It really freed me up because I think I wasn't even aware of how much I'm aware of my physical body when I'm acting in a critical way in terms of the camera. And because it was like, what am I going to do? I'm pregnant. It made the work so much more fun and free. And I just felt like I could really just focus on the actual scene. Crazy concept. I know, right? Scene work.

[33:03] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, right. And I'm really happy with how a lot of the season turned out. And I'm like, now I've got to figure out how I can keep that going forward. But yeah, I think the balance is kind of a myth. It's very doable. But it's hard some days. Some days it's easy. You just have to find a way to still nurture the you of you before you became a parent, I think is important. But also, you know, then you have this other whole thing that's so much more important than anything else that's always like, tugging at you physically sometimes, but also just, I don't know that there's really a balance, but it's doable. And it's so worth it. At least that's my experience.

[33:58] Caroline Arapoglou: I love that. I love to hear that. And I think what you said, too, is so important, because kids are mimics, they pick up on everything, not just what you're saying to do, but what you're doing, obviously. And so if you're talking unkindly to yourself, or like in the other room freaking out about X, Y, and Z, it's going to happen sometimes, but it is going to affect them. And so it's like, we talk a lot on here about ways to treat yourself with kindness. And that's always like the hardest question for every guest most of the time. Except for people that apparently haven't figured it out. And it's, I know, but so because it's then as a parent, you kind of start to think about how do I teach my child to be kind, right? So I'm sure that's like a whole other engineering in your head of like, I'm trying to teach this, but then like, I can't really do it to myself. And it's like, it's a crazy journey.

[34:43] Caroline Arapoglou: No, it is. And I think, too, something that happens to you when you become a parent is like, you just have less bandwidth for things that aren't actually serving you. Again, this is all like the perfect example. I have plenty of days where I don't, you know, stick with landing. But it's almost like, you don't have the time and the energy to like, dog yourself, because it's like, all this is going to do is bring me down, ruin my energy for today. And like, that's, you know, I just want to, I want to try to keep it, keep it fun. And, and, yeah, I love that. I just talked to somebody the other day who said every morning when they wake up, they pretend they just opened a gift or something. They're like, like, they physically do something with their body.

And it like tricks their body into like, being happy then when they go down to get the coffee and all that. Right? Because it is so hard. It's such a hard journey. But you're right. It's like, you can quickly just do the self tape because someone needs to be picked up or you need to feed somebody in the other room. You're like, whatever. Right? And sometimes that yields your truest off the cuff, like version of something, you know what I mean? It's Yeah, I don't actually think it's a bad thing to have a little bit less. It's you still have to have the time to put in the work and to, you know, do your prep. But I think sometimes just, I'm doing this, and then I got to do this. And then it's a better thing than sitting all day and like, thinking about your Oh, you're so right.

Yeah. Because that's how so many people book their like dream role or their first role or whatever it is. I was on vacation. I just, you know, I did this outside my you know, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah. It's like I just did it on the street because casting like they're not in the business of booking perfect self tapes. They want to book the person not like your backdrop, which is probably gonna pop up and hit me any moment. So I will say, as you know, you know, the one I do, the one you pull up from the ground, it is the pop up one that you then like have to wrangle into a circle that feels like you're at the rodeo, and then it does bounce back most of the time. But it's as Outer Banks kind of sails home.

I would love to get your rose and your thorn. See what I did there. So I guess what was the most beautiful thing that you'll remember overall about being on the show and then thorn in the sense of what's something that I guess challenged you the most and you think really pushed you to grow as an actor?

[37:07] Caroline Arapoglou: Um, my rose, let me do my thorn first. Okay, we'll end on a, you know, we'll do it. Ouch. Yeah. Okay, my thorn. Okay, so something that I learned that pushed me, I learned on this show how to fly by the seat of my pants a bit in terms of, oh, you know, our show is so location dependent. So it might be like, okay, we have to film this scene at Tannehill. And oh, we just realized we we can't come back here, you know, next month, like we thought, so we're going to pull this scene up from four episodes from now. And you don't have that episode yet. But here's the scene. And we're going to just like, we're going to talk you through it. So or that or just like, you know, changing scenes on the fly.

And it really taught me how to bob and weave and stay open. So I guess that still kind of ended with me making it a positive. But that's the thing. No, that's awesome. That was a challenge for me, especially at first, that I now I feel like I'm better at like, you know, being able to maneuver what's thrown.

[38:11] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah, that's that was both. I love that. That's perfect. Yeah. And that's such an important lesson.

[38:15] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah, look at that. Nailed it. Well, I've had so much fun talking with you. And I thought we could end our time together with a surprise game, which is called the compliment game. So basically, I reached out to someone kind of in your life for a compliment about you. I'm going to read it to you. And then you have to guess who said it.

[38:42] Caroline Arapoglou: Oh, okay. Am I allowed to ask for clues once I hear it? Yes, you can ask me yes or no questions. And then we'll say you get three guesses, just so there's some rules, but there's really no rules. Okay. Okay. And okay, this one's this one's very sweet. Oh, Caroline has a way of making you feel like your old friends. She's incredibly approachable, down to earth, easy to talk to charming, engaging. She's the girl you want to catch up with and share stories with. She's quippy and funny, bright, bubbly. But she's also just has this way of making you feel totally comfortable and at home. And that we've all sort of had a shared experience. And, oh, this is kind of a hint, which you probably need. I need it. I'm sure a lot of people feel that way. Okay. And she's really great for a recommendation for a haircut and color for blondes. Hint, hint.

[39:37] Caroline Arapoglou: It's my girl, Kimberly.

[39:38] Robert Peterpaul: It is. It's Kimberly. The best. Oh, my gosh. Oh, that's so lovely of her. She's so cool. She is so cool. Yeah, she's so oh my gosh. Yes, she I did recommend my hair person to her and she did love her, but she's the best. She's all the things she said about me is kind of it's exactly how I feel about her. Maybe that's why we get on. Maybe that's why we get on so easily. She's warm and lovely. And, you know, especially her coming from the casting side is anytime you can have a warm, comfortable, friendly relationship and with, you know, someone who is in casting. And now I have to say I know her in a million other ways and she's a friend. But that really it goes such a long way as an actor to feel like, OK, we're kind of all on the same team.

It's not this scary idea of like us and them. Oh, that's oh, I need to text her now. That was so that was so. Oh, yes. She's so smart and cool, too. And she is producing this really cool new show in Atlanta. I'm spilling the peach tea that I did. And I'm just so excited to watch her like, you know, run with that. Yeah, she's amazing. She's all the things you just said. And I meant to actually play it for you because it was a voice. No. And then I totally did it. That was supposed to be the reveal, everybody. But you know what? She's great. You can hear her on so many other platforms. I just talked to her the other day and she was saying how cool it was, particularly to see, like to work on the first season of Outer Banks and then see everyone, all of y'all on that show just become like international stars.

[41:12] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah. Especially during that time where it was released in Covid. I mean, that was crazy. How special for casting to see that, especially in like your hometown and your area, you know?

[41:17] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah. No, I mean, they just nailed that, the casting. I mean, it's easy for me to say they nailed the casting since they cast me on it. But removing myself from it, the magic of that show is that core group of O's and the group that they put together is, I mean, it's just, they make it.

[41:31] Caroline Arapoglou: Oh my gosh. It's so good. My favorite story was Carlicia. I interviewed her for something and she's great. And she talked about how she submitted herself tape for Outer Banks and heard nothing. And then like her manager was like, you should be involved with this show. Like you should really try. And she just sent the same tape in and then they got back to her. And I was like, that's amazing.

[41:50] Robert Peterpaul: That's nice. I love that. Just like, use the same tape, everybody.

[41:55] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So cool. But anyway, that's a self-tape tip. I would love if we could end our time together with a kindness tip, Caroline. So something you would like everybody out there listening to do on their own corner of the world to try and make the world a little brighter.

[42:05] Caroline Arapoglou: Something that I think is a low lift, high return thing to do. This is something my mom does. I think I got this from her, but if I see someone in the world that's like doing a great job or, you know, I love their shoes or, you know, I just see them, you know, have a wonderful interaction with someone. I try to just be like, that was cool. Or like, even if it's like, I love your shoe. You know what I mean? Just like, yeah. See something nice. It's okay to tell the person. And I've had people do that to me where like someone might, I don't even know what it might be, but in passing just say like, oh, cool off. And I'm like, oh, I would have a great day now. And it's so small and silly, but my mom does that a lot. And I try to do that too. I think it's, I think it's just a nice way to like lift the energy.

[42:59] Robert Peterpaul: I love that. Yeah. It powers people up and think about like you run to pick up your kid or to the grocery store and someone compliments you. And then you're going home to film an audition. It's like, you don't know how much you're going to actually change somebody's whole mindset. And then like, maybe you book the job. You know what I mean? Like it's, if we all did that for each other.

[43:14] Caroline Arapoglou: Yeah. Cause there's the idea that energy just moves. It doesn't, it doesn't disappear. So if you can keep moving good energy, you just can imagine that it's going to ping pong around.

[43:24] Robert Peterpaul: Yeah. Step outside of your bank. I don't know what that means. Outer banks. There's something there. Anyway, Caroline, you are so lovely and I'm so excited for you. Congratulations. Congratulations to you and best of luck. You said October, early October?

[43:38] Caroline Arapoglou: October. Yeah.

[43:44] Robert Peterpaul: Oh, I'm so, do you know what you're having? Do you have a guess?

[43:48] Caroline Arapoglou: We do know. You don't have to tell me. Is it a secret?

[43:52] Caroline Arapoglou: No, it's not a secret anymore. Cause she's about to pop. I think you're having a girl.

[43:55] Robert Peterpaul: You're right. Yeah. It's a baby girl. It's a baby girl.

[43:59] Caroline Arapoglou: Oh, congratulations. Oh, it's the best.

[44:02] Robert Peterpaul: That's what I hear. I'm so excited. And I'm going to definitely be like looking up to you for all the things from afar. Shoot me a message. I'll be like SOS.

[44:10] Robert Peterpaul: Until next time, remember everything is going to be A-OK.