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[0:51] Stephen Hanna: We're very, very proud and excited to have guests today.

[0:55] Bret Shuford: They call themselves the Crafty Lumberjacks.

[1:00] Stephen Hanna: They are Andrew and Dennis.

[1:02] Bret Shuford: Hi, welcome to the podcast, guys.

[1:04] Andrew Boza: Hi, thanks for having us.

[1:08] Dennis Setteducati: Thank you for being here.

[1:12] Bret Shuford: I'm such a fan, especially of your Halloween stuff.

[1:17] Stephen Hanna: I just love Halloween. So when you do your Halloween tree and your stuff, I mean your content is just beautiful.

[1:24] Dennis Setteducati: Oh, thank you.

[1:26] Andrew Boza: I mean we love Halloween too. So it's definitely our favorite.

[1:29] Dennis Setteducati: Yes.

[1:31] Stephen Hanna: You do a great job. And I feel like we were neighbors at some point. How long have you been in Astoria?

[1:36] Andrew Boza: Yeah, we've been in Astoria almost 10 years now, I think.

[1:40] Dennis Setteducati: In the same apartment.

[1:42] Bret Shuford: Wow. Nice. Because we lived in Astoria when we first started, did we leave?

[1:47] Stephen Hanna: Yeah, about probably 10 years ago.

[1:49] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, somewhere around that time.

[1:51] Andrew Boza: That's crazy.

[1:52] Bret Shuford: Yeah, 10 years ago. Wow.

[1:54] Dennis Setteducati: So we just missed each other.

[1:56] Andrew Boza: I know.

[1:56] Dennis Setteducati: I know. We can't believe we're still here.

[1:59] Andrew Boza: Every day we're like, really? We're still here.

[2:01] Dennis Setteducati: I know how.

[2:02] Stephen Hanna: But there's something about Astoria that's so wonderful.

[2:04] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, it's so charming.

[2:05] Andrew Boza: It's great.

[2:07] Stephen Hanna: And you've been there, and you're there through quarantine. You've been isolated there.

[2:11] Dennis Setteducati: Yes, we have been.

[2:13] Andrew Boza: Not so great.

[2:14] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, not so great. Because that's the one thing we love about our neighborhood is our neighborhood, and unfortunately, we cannot take advantage of it.

[2:21] Andrew Boza: Yeah, you know, so it's been really tough. During quarantine, have you guys been together more than usual?

[2:29] Dennis Setteducati: You know, a little bit, but actually not too much.

[2:33] Andrew Boza: We work together and we're home a lot, so not too much has changed.

[2:37] Dennis Setteducati: It's just those moments where we would love to just kind of like get out of the house away from each other.

[2:42] Andrew Boza: Yeah, that we just can't, but you know, we're working through it.

[2:48] Bret Shuford: Well, I don't know the story, but how did you guys meet?

[2:53] Dennis Setteducati: Oh gosh, okay. Well, we were on the tour, we're actors as well. Um, we met on the non-union tour of Fiddler on the Roof.

[2:59] Andrew Boza: Uh, we did that tour for two years. Dennis was much of the tailor, and I was the innkeeper in the ensemble.

[3:06] Dennis Setteducati: And the first day of rehearsal, I told him I liked his shoes, and um, from then on, we kind of hit it off.

[3:14] Andrew Boza: We started hanging out, grabbing lunch together on the road. We developed a very fast friendship, and then we went away for Christmas break, and we kind of realized that we were missing each other, texting each other constantly, and then that January was kind of when we first started to kind of dabble beyond the friendship zone into the showman's zone, as you would, and then kind of our relationship kept evolving and developing from there.

[3:40] Dennis Setteducati: Um, and then we started our blog on the road essentially, and we came up with Crafty Lumberjacks because we had a mutual love of the holidays and crafting and making, and um we had these long, long beards, yes, and we wore flannel.

[3:55] Andrew Boza: Yeah, we always wear flannel.

[3:56] Dennis Setteducati: So that's kind of that was why lumberjacks, yes. That's kind of how the name became what it is.

[4:02] Andrew Boza: Yeah, um, it actually started also because this very drunk man kept catcalling us on the way to the theater, and I forget where we were.

[4:11] Dennis Setteducati: Oh, Vancouver.

[4:12] Andrew Boza: Yeah, and he would just be like lumberjacks, lumberjacks. We happen to see him with like a five-show weekend or something like that, and we happened to see him every time we left the theater, every time we went back to the theater, he'd be like lumberjacks, lumberjacks.

[4:25] Dennis Setteducati: And we're like, what the hell, man? You know, so then kind of we remembered that moment when we were trying to think of our blog, we were like crafty couple, crafty boys, whatever. And then for whatever reason, Crafty Lumberjacks just stuck.

[4:37] Andrew Boza: I mean, we did not think it would still be with us like this.

[4:41] Dennis Setteducati: Yes, I know, and now people are so confused. They're like, Are you lumberjacks? Are you craft? What do you do? And we're like, oh my gosh, here's the story.

[4:50] Andrew Boza: We have to tell the story over and over, and then they finally just get that it's just a fun little name.

[4:56] Stephen Hanna: Do you feel pressure to wear flannel all the time because of it?

[5:01] Dennis Setteducati: Well, you know, sometimes, actually, yeah. I'm glad you brought that up because it's been way.

[5:05] Andrew Boza: Yeah, like how does that pressure your look? I mean, I feel like you might want to wear like whatever you're picking, and then you're like, oh, but this doesn't quite fit with what people think. Do you do you have that dilemma?

[5:15] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah. Sometimes, yeah. I mean, I guess luckily, I feel like plaid and flannel are always in style somehow.

[5:22] Andrew Boza: Yes.

[5:22] Dennis Setteducati: We have no other option. But we do. We're like, okay, we want to like up our style game. That's like something that's like on our list, and it's like, okay, how do we evolve? But you know, we're still just wearing like flannel shirts.

[5:33] Andrew Boza: Yeah.

[5:34] Stephen Hanna: But how do you how did you well, first off, what year was that tour? When was that?

[5:38] Dennis Setteducati: That was 2010 through 2012.

[5:44] Stephen Hanna: And then how did you get from so you started the blog first, and the blog evolved into the social media and the video content?

[5:56] Andrew Boza: Yes, yeah. It started, we kind of like had our little blog, and we were kind of just doing it for fun. We never thought that it could present itself as a career.

[6:05] Dennis Setteducati: Um, and then about four years in or four years ago. I'm bad with years and numbers, yeah. You know, like how many what year is it?

[6:14] Andrew Boza: Um, but we were we were actually picked up through HGTV through our Instagram feed. Um, some girl started following us, she was like, Oh, I like these guys a lot, they put out good content. Let's um, you know, hire them on a trial basis. We did um five Halloween videos and five Christmas videos for them, and then that January they offered us a contract, and we've been we're going on our fourth year working with HGTV, yeah.

[6:39] Dennis Setteducati: And it's always that it's really crazy. And I wish we had kind of thought of when we started the blog to really focus it as a career. We were just really, I don't even know why we were doing it. We were just just like having fun with it, yeah. But like looking back, it's like, oh gosh, I wish we would have started a YouTube channel. I wish we would have hired like someone to work on our website, you know. Hindsight's always because we were just learning as we went, you know, we're like, oh yeah, blog spot, sure, sure. Put up three pictures, you know. You know, we didn't know anything about SEO and search engines and all this other crazy stuff.

[7:10] Andrew Boza: I still don't know.

[7:11] Dennis Setteducati: I know, we still don't get it, honestly. But you know, but it's worked out, and we're so lucky. Um, because we never thought this could be our livelihood, and it is now.

[7:22] Andrew Boza: Yeah, it's so cool. Uh and especially you must feel so proud to have built this from scratch. What I'm so curious what happened to acting? Are you still auditioning? Are you still performing when you can?

[7:36] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, yeah. I mean, we left the tour, we were uh we're both lucky enough to get our cards and we were working, but when we started working with HGTV, it just took out so much time where we'd go to auditions and be like, okay, can we finagle working this audition plus uh you know working with HGTV? So acting is definitely still a passion of ours, and it's something we definitely want to pursue. It's just trying to figure out how to balance both of them at the same time.

[8:06] Andrew Boza: Yeah.

[8:06] Dennis Setteducati: But a lot of people do on-camera stuff, and we do like segments on TV, and also we do like the video content. We kind of feel like it's very similar to theater. And if we didn't have our theater background, we'd probably be totally lost. But you know, we're able to just pull it together and get things done because as you both know, as actors, sometimes that's just how you have to roll and get the job done. You know, you just gotta do it, make it happen. Um, so we're very grateful for our theater background too, in a sense. That kind of you know, supports us in this life, you know.

[8:39] Stephen Hanna: In your relationship, is there one person like I I just because we know how it is in our relationship, like, how is it? Is there what are you about to say? Is there one person who's like, I just want to craft, I don't necessarily want to do it for social media, I don't care about the public attention. Like, and then there's one person's like, no, no, no, we'll create this and we'll make this into a thing. Like, okay, fine. And then, and then all of a sudden, oh, okay, this is going really well. I guess we'll continue to do this. Did that happen to you guys?

[9:10] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah.

[9:11] Andrew Boza: Yeah.

[9:13] Dennis Setteducati: Like, who is it?

[9:15] Andrew Boza: Who's the person who's just a little more like, let's do this on social media or whatever?

[9:20] Dennis Setteducati: Dennis.

[9:20] Andrew Boza: Yeah, I'm the one that's like, we have to follow through, we have to get things done. Come on, we gotta get on to the next gig, the next job. Um, and Andrew kind of likes to take his time, you know.

[9:30] Dennis Setteducati: And I'm like, we don't have time to take our time. We have to keep moving on.

[9:34] Andrew Boza: Yeah, I want to like decorate really slowly and just like look at the work and like feel like I'm having this like artistic moment, and Dennis is like, we don't have time for that.

[9:42] Dennis Setteducati: No, it's a fun. But there is just I know there is so much pressure now to have content in so many different areas where it and it's not a bad thing, but it's it's rare that we craft for our own enjoyment in a way. Like, we'll try to we'll we'll definitely have fun doing it, especially like around Halloween, like that always feels like that's for us. But there is this pressure to like you know, take pictures, try to document it somehow, which always is harder than actually just creating the craft. But he's definitely the driving force. Like, if it weren't for him, we'd I'd probably I don't know, there'd be like no crafts up, but our um what? What about you two? Who's Steven?

[10:31] Stephen Hanna: Um, I would say if Brett didn't crack the whip, we definitely wouldn't get things done.

[10:39] Bret Shuford: I'm definitely the Dennis. I definitely would say I think we should do it again. I don't really like it. Let's do wait until tomorrow to do it again. I feel like we would do it better later. He's like, no, that's it. We're using it. And I'm like, but I don't like it. He's like, you're never gonna like it. And I'm like, I can relate to that.

[10:58] Stephen Hanna: It's hard being us.

[11:04] Bret Shuford: So who so more on a personal level? Who said I love you first?

[11:11] Andrew Boza: Oh god.

[11:12] Dennis Setteducati: Oh my gosh.

[11:14] Andrew Boza: I think because we started as friends, like we kind of had like an instant bond anyway.

[11:18] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, I don't know if we ever added that much weight to those words. Because you know, it was I think we were saying it before we were even an item. You know, it's like you know, you know how you create those strong bonds in theater. It's like I love you, you know. So I think it was kind of like that just always.

[11:34] Andrew Boza: Yeah, I don't really have a memory of like the first time we said it.

[11:38] Stephen Hanna: Do you think um because you were friends, such good friends before, do you think that that's why your relationship has lasted for so long and is so good and so great?

[11:48] Dennis Setteducati: Probably, yeah. I definitely think so. And I I think that's um it's so rare nowadays to, especially in the gay community, to find these relationships, not on apps or online, which I mean is totally great. There's nothing wrong with that. I think we've all found relationships through that, but to find something like a little more organic feels I feel pretty lucky about that.

[12:10] Andrew Boza: I do think a lot of it stems from that. Yeah, you know, we we struggled as friends on the road at times, and like I feel like we were able to patch that up, and like we bring that with us today.

[12:24] Stephen Hanna: So let's talk a little bit about being LGBT and being like in and especially LGBT and HGTV, right? There's not a lot of visibility, let's be honest, on HGTV for LGBT people.

[12:38] Dennis Setteducati: And so which is interesting.

[12:40] Stephen Hanna: Is there a discussion?

[12:42] Dennis Setteducati: Which is interesting, right?

[12:43] Stephen Hanna: Um, at least not openly, right? There's people who clearly are openly gay, but they don't discuss it on the show. Is that something that I mean? I'm definitely really happy to see you guys out there and see, and when they when I do see people that are on there, but what is there something they have to address? You have to, or you feel like you have to protect the audience, or do they ever address that with you guys?

[13:06] Andrew Boza: No, I think on the digital level, it's very open and it's fine. Like they've never addressed it with us. We don't feel like we can't, you know, be who we are on camera, which is really great.

[13:19] Andrew Boza: We actually don't have cable, so we don't really watch a lot of HG TV unless we're on vacation, we'll like just like zone and like put it on.

[13:26] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, but there really is a lack of representation um on TV for sure, which I mean, of course, we would love to tap into, but you know, they've been really great with us, and we've never had um an issue with that at all.

[13:41] Stephen Hanna: Yeah, I'm glad to hear that.

[13:43] Bret Shuford: That's great. What um so you're you're also both vegan?

[13:47] Andrew Boza: Yes, yeah, almost four years, three years.

[13:50] Dennis Setteducati: I got I can't even remember, yeah.

[13:52] Andrew Boza: Three or four years.

[13:53] Bret Shuford: Was that Dennis like making you be vegan?

[13:56] Andrew Boza: No, he either made me vegan because I was someone that needed like a bacon, egg, and cheese with cold sandwich for lunch, then a bacon cheeseburger for dinner. Like I was eating so poorly. Um then his sister actually went vegan first, and she was kind of the pusher, not a pusher, but like leading by example. Um and Andrew used to have very bad skin. Do you mind me telling? Um so he actually gave up dairy uh for a new year's resolution in January.

[14:24] Andrew Boza: Yeah, um, and his skin cleared up right away about three weeks later. And then my dad actually passed away in February, and we knew we wanted to make a lifestyle change, but we weren't willing to work out. We didn't want to exercise.

[14:39] Dennis Setteducati: So still don't.

[14:40] Andrew Boza: Yes. So for whatever reason, like those couple of months, um, the conversation um turned to, you know, starting to eat healthy and go vegan was was our our answer to that. So July 4th was the last time we ate meat, we had hot dog sausage burgers, chicken wings, all the stuff, and then July 5th, cold turkey, we stopped eating meat and dairy.

[15:04] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, that is so impressive.

[15:06] Andrew Boza: Yeah.

[15:07] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, I mean, we were just ready. We felt just ready.

[15:10] Andrew Boza: Yeah, I always I always feel like there was just like a moment, like we watched documentaries, we kind of like read up to see like what it was. And then after we read like enough, we just like you know, there was something about eating everything that just didn't feel like right to us, and then it was easier to make that switch.

[15:28] Dennis Setteducati: And I mean, you know, I'll go to a wedding and I'll I'll have like a little piece of cake because I love cake and I I won't feel guilty about it. I think that's like the one thing my sister brought to it. It was, you know, don't allow yourself to feel guilty. If you want to like cut out everything but like butter or something, yeah, like and that's okay. You're doing great.

[15:46] Andrew Boza: Yeah, it doesn't really matter if you need to have that, and eventually it usually turns towards yeah, going all the way, you know.

[15:53] Bret Shuford: Wow. That's very inspiring.

[15:54] Stephen Hanna: Very inspiring. Can you can you talk a little bit about um first individually your journey with crafting, and then I want to hear your first craft experience together and what was that like?

[16:11] Dennis Setteducati: Oh gosh. Okay. Well, my mom was actually a crafter when I was growing up. She would make things and sell them at like craft markets for the holidays seasonally.

[16:20] Andrew Boza: Where'd you grow up?

[16:21] Dennis Setteducati: Long Island.

[16:23] Andrew Boza: Okay.

[16:23] Dennis Setteducati: Long Island. So um, so I kind of when I was younger, I was already kind of dabbling in crafting because I would be her little assistant. I would help her set up the booth, help her make sales. Um, and then eventually I started making my own things to sell for like kids. Like I made like a ribbon dancer and um like ghosts on a stick for Halloween and stuff. Um and of course, I would always kind of decorate my house, put up the little cutouts in the window, decorate the tree for Christmas. So I've always kind of had a crafting bug inside me.

[16:55] Andrew Boza: Uh I mean it's kind of similar. I grew up in Maryland, and uh just crafting uh I don't know, by myself. That sounded really sad. It wasn't that sad, but you know, when you're not good at sports, there's you know, you have very few options. So it was like theater and crafting, but I love to decorate, so I just remember being so excited to decorate. And his mom is also she's a knitter, so she he's been exposed to it his whole life, yeah.

[17:22] Dennis Setteducati: And kind of our first um crafting experience together was actually on the road. We um I think it was Valentine's Day.

[17:30] Andrew Boza: Yeah, we made like Valentine's for the entire cast and crew.

[17:34] Dennis Setteducati: Um, and we just kind of, you know, after a show one night drinking, you know, and um made like I think over 80 Valentine's for everybody in the company, and that's kind of when the other cast members were like, You guys should have a blog, too, you know, and we were like, blog, what's that? You know, you know, this is 10 years ago, we didn't know what blogging was.

[17:55] Andrew Boza: Um, but um, yeah, and then that that was kind of it.

[18:00] Dennis Setteducati: And that's go ahead.

[18:03] Andrew Boza: If for anyone who's listening that doesn't know what crafting is, how would you explain it?

[18:07] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah.

[18:08] Andrew Boza: Oh gosh. Uh I oh go ahead.

[18:12] Dennis Setteducati: I was gonna say, I think it's just working with your hands, yeah, creating something from scratch, kind of getting into a mindless zone, um, or kind of taking something that you have in your mind and putting it on the page on the paper. Um, you know, just kind of working with your hands.

[18:26] Andrew Boza: Yeah, I feel like there's so many different forms of crafting, whether it's you know, like uh collage with like uh magazines to working with clay, uh knitting, being artistic, anything. I feel like it's all like hand in hand. I feel like there's so many things you can do.

[18:43] Dennis Setteducati: Do you walk into Michael's and Astoria and they're like, what's up, guys? Like they know you firsthand.

[18:47] Andrew Boza: Yeah.

[18:50] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah. Yeah, we're the best thing about living here is that we live like walking distance from Michael's. So that's like one of our it's like the best thing.

[18:59] Andrew Boza: It's like I used to walk. I used to walk to that Michaels from our when we lived in Astoria, because that was it's like it was great. There was like the Pizza Hut right there and the Michaels, yeah.

[19:10] Dennis Setteducati: That pizza.

[19:11] Andrew Boza: Yeah, the pizza. Wait, is the Wendy's still there? Wasn't there a Wendy's there too or there's a McDonald's close by?

[19:17] Dennis Setteducati: Oh, yeah, yeah.

[19:18] Andrew Boza: Anyways, there's like a Boston market, subway, it's a nice little area.

[19:24] Dennis Setteducati: It is.

[19:25] Andrew Boza: Yeah, but we've actually gotten to know the staff, which is like the funniest thing.

[19:28] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, so we'll walk in, we're like, hey, Chris, how are you? How is the holiday? You know.

[19:34] Andrew Boza: And then there's this one girl, Jackie, who always has to like show us all the new things.

[19:38] Dennis Setteducati: And we're like, we gotta get out of here, lady. Come on.

[19:40] Andrew Boza: And she's like, I gotta tell you this. I gotta show you. We just got this. And we're like, oh my gosh. I called her Sandy for like six months.

[19:47] Dennis Setteducati: And I'm like, that's not her name. When I think I know somebody's name, I feel like I really want to say it a lot. So I'd be like, hey Sandy, you know.

[19:54] Andrew Boza: It's just like, oh god, Dennis is like, what? I'm like, her name is Jackie.

[19:58] Dennis Setteducati: I do the same.

[19:59] Andrew Boza: I literally I do the same thing. And I have had several experiences like that in my life where I've called somebody the wrong name.

[20:07] Dennis Setteducati: Yes, I have a friend who's a girl I went to college with.

[20:11] Andrew Boza: Oh no.

[20:13] Dennis Setteducati: I think Steven's probably met her now at this point, like 10 times.

[20:18] Andrew Boza: Oh god.

[20:19] Dennis Setteducati: And after every time we meet, he goes, Now who is that?

[20:23] Andrew Boza: Oh no, that's Andrew.

[20:25] Dennis Setteducati: But to be fair, Brett has a like four or five really close college friends who I am very close friends with now. And then every once in a while, every once in a while we will go to this get together, and like all of them will be there, and like there'll be this girl, and I will have a conversation with her, and I will walk away and I'm like, who was that? Like, I know I know her, I know I've met her, but I have no idea who that is.

[20:51] Andrew Boza: And it it happened again recently on a Zoom call, like his college reunited, and I was like, Who is that one girl?

[20:57] Dennis Setteducati: He was like, Steven.

[21:01] Andrew Boza: We are the same, yeah.

[21:02] Dennis Setteducati: We're the same people.

[21:04] Andrew Boza: Oh my gosh, that happens to me all the time. I I think we're just expected to know too many people at this point, you know, especially especially now too, because you probably this happens sometimes too where people come to us and they they they act like they know us and we've never met them because of social media and all that too.

[21:22] Dennis Setteducati: It's it and then you feel horrible after.

[21:25] Andrew Boza: Right. You're like, how do I know them? You're like, I don't ever met them.

[21:29] Dennis Setteducati: Um if so for people who are listening who you know, like they dabble in maybe like making decorations for a holiday or trying to come up with like an original gift to give their grandmother or someone and they just don't have like the confidence or they don't think they have like the crafty lumberjack touch. What is like one or two tips you would tell them, you know?

[21:56] Andrew Boza: What was one two tips you would give give them?

[22:00] Dennis Setteducati: Um like trust your instinct, go for it, you know, just do what you think is right and go for it.

[22:08] Andrew Boza: Yeah, I mean, I think I think just going for it is a a great thing. It's you know, you don't have to have you don't have to be the best crafter, but I think anything that's handmade will be appreciated.

[22:19] Dennis Setteducati: Yes.

[22:20] Andrew Boza: Um and I also think it's like there's so much resource, there's so much stuff that you can look up on Instagram, Pinterest, Google, you know, like just look it up and copy it, make it your own.

[22:30] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, that's true. As crafters, it's like we really love when somebody like rep like does like the exact thing we do. We're not expecting people to like take our idea and make it their own, like that. We're making something that we're hoping other people will like really do, and we're hoping we're explaining it in a way where people can then create it, even if they are like terrible at crafting. But I do think like people really do appreciate handmade things, so like even if you're worried about that, don't put too much pressure on it just make it with love and that will come across.

[22:52] Bret Shuford: Yes that's so sweet so wait my other so this is sort of like a silly question but if you were a craft what craft would you be and why oh gosh I know it's a broad I I would probably be like a craft that's like half like done halfway and then like never finished because that's like Dennis's like biggest like pet peeve about me is like I will start something and be like I don't know how to finish it and then I'll just like put it in like never finish it.

[23:40] Andrew Boza: So I would probably be like an unfinished craft.

[23:43] Dennis Setteducati: And I would be something for my cat. I love my cat so much. I just celebrated my birthday and Andrew's like what do you want? I'm like I want a cat tower for our cat.

[23:53] Andrew Boza: That's all I wanted. I probably like a craft that has to do with animals of some sort.

[23:59] Dennis Setteducati: I your birthday was yesterday right yeah yeah yesterday we crafted something no we didn't oh my god I wish I I am such I'm such a crafty person and it's one of those things that like I miss in my life I don't do it enough.

[24:20] Andrew Boza: Yeah um and it's certainly challenging right now because like what I would do is just go to Michael's and just look around and pick some stuff up and then put something together.

[24:29] Bret Shuford: Um so how how are you guys getting through this time with isolation and your your itch to craft?

[24:38] Dennis Setteducati: Um, well, again, now that it's like it's our job, so we have to we have to craft, uh, which again we're so grateful for because we get paid to craft basically to be creative.

[24:50] Andrew Boza: Um, so so we're getting through, you know.

[24:53] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, I would I would say I really do miss like just like window shopping. I we really like to do that. I feel like we get so much inspiration just by going out and seeing things, and for some reason we really didn't go to Michael's early this year, so we've like barely been out, so it feels very weird.

[25:12] Andrew Boza: So we literally live amongst so much craft supplies that it is kind of forcing us to use what we have, which is a good thing because you know, we're we have the urge to purge, yeah.

[25:22] Dennis Setteducati: So we're just you know using what we have and getting crafty.

[25:26] Bret Shuford: Well, and that's my other question is like in New York City, it space is limited, right? Apartments are small. So, do you have a craft room? Are you able to do that in Astoria?

[25:36] Dennis Setteducati: So, how do you manage your your surplus?

[25:40] Andrew Boza: Oh gosh. Well, you know, it's it's hidden, it's all under beds and it's in closets. We we broke down and we got a storage unit.

[25:50] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, we also store a lot of stuff at my mom's house because we're I'm only like 45 40 miles outside of Astoria, so she's become like mom storage, has a lot of our like holiday decor. We have like seven Christmas trees now, so they're all like in my mom's basement.

[26:06] Andrew Boza: Yeah, it's it's hard though, and we we like to keep a lot of stuff because we're like, well, we'll never know. We need to use it now. It's like, oh my god, actually, we really do need to hold on to these things. We don't know how long we're gonna be here.

[26:17] Dennis Setteducati: That's nice that you have that access to that.

[26:19] Andrew Boza: Because I that's the one thing I think about is like I can't go buy a bunch of stuff because I got nowhere to put it, yeah.

[26:24] Dennis Setteducati: Right, that's a good thing, though, too.

[26:25] Andrew Boza: Yeah, that's a good thing, yeah, totally.

[26:28] Dennis Setteducati: Totally.

[26:30] Bret Shuford: Well, okay, my last question, and then we'll go into our next segment. Is where do you guys find your inspiration for creating things?

[26:39] Dennis Setteducati: I mean, we kind of find it everywhere. Living in New York, it's really easy to find inspiration, you know, just like walking around. Uh, but yeah, we're inspired by like a lot of our Instagram followers and just Instagram and social media in general. Um, we used to travel a lot and we would get inspired by where we were. Um, we were also because I'm sure you guys too, because you're you're creative people, you you're always kind of thinking, you know, you're always brainstorming essentially. So we'll be thinking about a certain holiday or a certain idea, um, and just kind of brainstorming, you know, off of that.

[27:15] Andrew Boza: Yeah, it's always like just the hard part is always remembering all those great ideas, like when it comes time to actually doing things.

[27:21] Dennis Setteducati: Yes, that's true.

[27:22] Bret Shuford: Well, where do you guys see the Crafty Lumberjacks going? What do you hope to see happen?

[27:26] Andrew Boza: Oh my gosh. Uh, it's hard because again, this is like a life that's presented itself to us, which we weren't expecting. So, but now that it has been presented, we think, you know, the top, we think the moon, you know, we want our own show, we want a recurring segment on shows, we want to have our own craft line. Um, we we essentially the goal is to get other people to do the work for us.

[27:54] Dennis Setteducati: That's the main goal. So we don't have to do the work, uh, but can still come up with the ideas, you know, and the concepts, but have someone else execute it.

[28:02] Andrew Boza: Yeah, I mean, that would be great.

[28:03] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, and I of course, like going back to theater, having that oh, yeah, you know, being able to kind of do both at the same time would be a dream.

[28:13] Bret Shuford: Yeah. Well, we can't wait to work with you. That'll be so cool.

[28:16] Andrew Boza: Yeah, we gotta do something.

[28:20] Dennis Setteducati: We can do a little show right here.

[28:23] Bret Shuford: Well, I guess we would need a woman.

[28:25] Andrew Boza: Right.

[28:26] Dennis Setteducati: Well, two of them.

[28:27] Andrew Boza: Uh, we'll do it in drag.

[28:29] Dennis Setteducati: We'll do it in drag.

[28:31] Andrew Boza: Do it in drag.

[28:32] Bret Shuford: Yeah.

[28:33] Bret Shuford: All right. Well, now we're gonna go into a segment that we call Spotlight on Love.

[28:41] Bret Shuford: All right, so the question comes from are we gonna say who?

[28:44] Dennis Setteducati: I'm not.

[28:45] Andrew Boza: I was gonna keep her anonymous.

[28:46] Dennis Setteducati: We can just say her first name.

[28:48] Andrew Boza: Her it's from a woman named Jennifer. She um wrote us on Instagram, and she wrote, okay, here's the thing. I am 46, never married, have had a couple relationships, but nothing that lasted. Anyways, I recently started chatting on Facebook Messenger with a guy, and I'm kind of in the feeling it out stage where I don't want to come off too needy or pushy, but still want to seem interested to gauge if he's interested or not. So, what are some things I could ask or a way I can approach this that won't seem like I'm asking too much, but at the same time trying to figure out if he is interested or not.

[29:32] Dennis Setteducati: Oh gosh. You take this you both have to answer.

[29:40] Andrew Boza: I don't know. I I kind of sometimes think that like skirting the issue is is not always the way to go. I think like sometimes just being kind of blunt about your feelings, and just you know, I think it's like we're all adults, and you know, it's like, well, hey, I kind of am feeling this for you right now. I don't know, maybe it's the pandemic, maybe it's you know, the the far away love scenario. I don't know, but like, are you feeling any of this? If not, like, cool, we can still like just chat as friends, just wanted to put that out there before, you know.

[30:18] Dennis Setteducati: I don't know.

[30:19] Andrew Boza: Yeah, yeah. I think for a while we were kind of living on the um theory or idea of like nothing to lose, everything to gain.

[30:26] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah.

[30:27] Andrew Boza: So it's like, why not just take the leap, go for it, put it out there? But also you have to know, like, you can't take it too personal. You you know, like you have to just be able to get the truth bomb and kind of move on, yeah.

[30:39] Dennis Setteducati: If it's not the truth you're looking for.

[30:41] Andrew Boza: Yeah, and you shouldn't take it personal because they only know like one side of you, like through the internet right now, and that's not the whole you, just as you don't know like the whole them. So, however, that person might be feeling, if it's not the way you want it to, it's you really shouldn't take it personal, because you know, I take it well, I think everything personal, but uh it's easier said than done.

[31:02] Dennis Setteducati: Could we act can't we watch you guys act it out?

[31:04] Andrew Boza: Like yeah, maybe yeah, like maybe you're like crafting it's Valentine's, you're like crafting, you're a little drunk, and Andrew, Andrew. You have feelings for Dennis and Dennis is like he's like busy with his Valentine craft.

[31:23] Dennis Setteducati: Okay, okay. Um wait, am I on a computer or is he right next to me?

[31:29] Andrew Boza: He's like down the table, he's like down the line, like down the table, and you're like trying to get his attention, trying to talk to him.

[31:37] Dennis Setteducati: Like, hey, do you like the color red?

[31:41] Andrew Boza: Yeah, cool. It's Valentine's Day, red, you know.

[31:45] Dennis Setteducati: Well, you didn't have to be that mean.

[31:47] Andrew Boza: I'm not being mean, I'm just being honest.

[31:50] Dennis Setteducati: I don't know.

[31:50] Andrew Boza: Then I get butt hurt, and then I think this is bad.

[31:53] Dennis Setteducati: I don't know.

[31:56] Andrew Boza: I know. We're we're gonna end this and be like, I'm gonna be like, I can't believe you said that.

[31:56] Dennis Setteducati: I love you.

[31:56] Andrew Boza: I can't believe you said that.

[32:05] Bret Shuford: Oh my god, that you guys are hilarious. You guys are amazing.

[32:07] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, I want to craft with you so bad.

[32:10] Andrew Boza: I want to hang out, and Astoria so bad. Like, we gotta hang out.

[32:15] Dennis Setteducati: Once this is over, please come over.

[32:17] Andrew Boza: Please we will.

[32:18] Dennis Setteducati: We will, and I also see you have a World's Fair poster behind you.

[32:23] Andrew Boza: Oh yes, yes.

[32:25] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, it's an old t-shirt that we cut up.

[32:27] Andrew Boza: Yeah, I remember I remember when you made that post.

[32:31] Dennis Setteducati: Yes, yes.

[32:33] Andrew Boza: That's right. So you're you both Disney nerds, or just one of you.

[32:38] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, we love Disney. We actually went to Disney right before Corona.

[32:42] Andrew Boza: We were there too.

[32:43] Dennis Setteducati: Oh my gosh, yes.

[32:44] Andrew Boza: Oh, wait, I think we knew that, right? Or we were there like overlap, or we were there at the same time or something.

[32:46] Dennis Setteducati: We were there like the week the week before we were we were there.

[32:50] Andrew Boza: Okay, yes, yes.

[32:50] Dennis Setteducati: We were there like early February.

[32:59] Andrew Boza: Okay, it's the best.

[33:00] Dennis Setteducati: Uh I know we were so glad that we got there before this all happened because Disney trip.

[33:07] Andrew Boza: I'm already sad that we're not there. You know, we can afford I just I would live in Florida just to be close to Disney or California.

[33:16] Dennis Setteducati: I actually love Disneyland better.

[33:18] Andrew Boza: I like Disneyland better too.

[33:19] Dennis Setteducati: Oh my gosh, that's so funny. Because it's the OG, you know, it's like there's so much history.

[33:25] Andrew Boza: I know everything's like close to each other and dense.

[33:29] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah.

[33:30] Andrew Boza: It's like manageable. You know, you can walk in, get your churro, get your corndog.

[33:34] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, yes. You know, ride the Matterhorn.

[33:38] Andrew Boza: Um we just love Disney so much.

[33:43] Dennis Setteducati: I know. My gosh.

[33:44] Andrew Boza: Yeah, I can't wait to go back.

[33:46] Bret Shuford: But I also love, I mean, since you're from Long Island and you live in Queens, I love the site of the New York World's Fair. I'd love to go over to the US Open.

[33:55] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, I know. I would I wish they would do something kind of like I don't know, reopen it with I don't know.

[34:01] Andrew Boza: Yeah. Some sort of tribute.

[34:03] Dennis Setteducati: Something.

[34:04] Andrew Boza: Yeah, yeah.

[34:05] Dennis Setteducati: It's a great park.

[34:07] Andrew Boza: It is. What we could do is we could craft something that's like replica like miniature replicas of attractions or something.

[34:17] Dennis Setteducati: Oh my gosh. That would be my gosh.

[34:20] Andrew Boza: I'm into it.

[34:25] Bret Shuford: Well, where can people find you guys online?

[34:28] Dennis Setteducati: Oh, anywhere, Crafty Lumberjacks.

[34:31] Andrew Boza: Yeah, we have our blog crafty lumberjacks.com, Instagram, Crafty Lumberjacks, Facebook, Crafty Lumberjacks, Twitter, Pinterest. We're on TikTok now, which I know you guys taking off.

[34:38] Dennis Setteducati: We're following.

[34:38] Andrew Boza: I know you guys are killing it. Killing it.

[34:45] Dennis Setteducati: Um, so you I feel like you gotta do all of the things now.

[34:49] Andrew Boza: Well, I think maybe that might be our thing. Maybe we need to do some sort of duet on TikTok.

[34:54] Dennis Setteducati: Yes, we're down.

[34:55] Andrew Boza: We're down because you were dancing your butts off on one of those videos.

[34:59] Dennis Setteducati: Oh my gosh. Every now and then we get some liquid courage, and we we we exercise one so you can see for TikTok, and TikTok made you do it.

[35:13] Andrew Boza: But seriously, we've had a hard time. Like we we were really into the TikTok for a minute, and then the last few weeks we have not been that motivated for the TikTok.

[35:21] Dennis Setteducati: We gotta get back into it.

[35:22] Andrew Boza: Yeah. We've been trying to like do other things.

[35:26] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah. And it will always be there. It's not going anywhere. So you can jump right back into it when you want to.

[35:32] Bret Shuford: Well, so what crafts let me ask you one more question. What crafts do you think people should make right now in quarantine? What's like the best thing to get people's spirits up?

[35:42] Dennis Setteducati: Um, I I mean, tie-dye is huge right now, either bleach dyeing or tie-dying. We actually just tie-dyed our shower curtain. Um, and I think anything that brings you joy, you know, like we don't have a lot of plants or color in our apartments, so we've been making a lot of fake plants lately, um, adding some pops of color here and there.

[36:01] Andrew Boza: Yeah, I also I we haven't started this, but I think like it sounds weird, but Christmas isn't that far ahead. And we every time like the holiday season comes, we're like, oh, I wish we would have would have had time to like made make like batch gifts for people or actually do Christmas cards. Like, well, you can take this time and kind of prep ahead and do that, and then you'll be ready to go. I think we all need a little Christmas in our lives right now. Why not?

[36:24] Bret Shuford: And what do you think people could do right now to keep theater alive while theater's quiet?

[36:30] Dennis Setteducati: Oh my gosh. I think just support, kind of keep watching a lot of these uh programs or releasing like one week. Um, you know, Phantom of the Opera, we saw uh Frankenstein, the Benedict um Cumberbatch production the other day, which was incredible, and just support your local theaters. Like where I'm from Long Island, which has a huge theater scene. There's a lot of theaters out there. It's like donate, support their live uh shows.

[36:54] Andrew Boza: Um, yeah, you know, send them a little bit of money, a little bit of cash, and kind of just keep keep it going, you know.

[37:00] Bret Shuford: Yeah, totally. What do you guys think?

[37:03] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, what do you're the space?

[37:06] Andrew Boza: I would say the same thing. I would say support the your local theaters. Like if you're in a not in New York City, like and you can't get to Broadway, like your regional theaters are hurting, like the Lourde regional theaters and the and if you can't support them financially, you know, reach out to them and see what you can do, you know, like whether that's volunteering some way to do something for them that you have a skill that they need somebody to do that for, you know.

[37:34] Dennis Setteducati: I think bringing attention to organizations like Broadway Cares, Equity Fights AIDS, and Actors Fund, and um the Broadway Podcast Network is doing some really cool things as well.

[37:44] Andrew Boza: But um, but I think that you know I I was just thinking about crafting. I'm like, you could take old playbills and craft something fun and just remind yourself of those moments that you got to experience those shows, and yeah, it'll be back. It like breaks our heart.

[38:00] Dennis Setteducati: It breaks our heart. We're we're huge. You know, even though we stop acting, we still would go see all the shows, support. And our the last show we saw actually, which seems kind of appropriate, is Come From Away.

[38:13] Andrew Boza: Um and it's I mean, we're so glad that that was the last show we got to see before all this happened, but at the same time, it just breaks our heart.

[38:21] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah.

[38:22] Bret Shuford: Yeah, well, it'll be back.

[38:24] Andrew Boza: Oh, I I am I am a member of the Actors Fund. I just want to say I've been supporting them for years. They actually helped me with my teeth get some uh dental work done. So since uh Crafty Lumberjacks took off, I've been kind of giving a little back here and there. I'm a yearly member.

[38:38] Dennis Setteducati: Um, and I always slide them a little something. I also think it's also important to just share, to just share other people's um, you know, that's the the easiest thing you can do is just share a theater, uh, share your friends that are trying to do their own gig, either their own podcast, yeah, their craft blog, whatever. Just by sharing and drawing more attention to it, we'll bring other people in.

[39:01] Andrew Boza: And I think that's the easiest thing that people can do.

[39:03] Dennis Setteducati: Yeah, I agree with that.

[39:06] Andrew Boza: Amen. Share.

[39:08] Bret Shuford: Well, thank you for sharing yourselves with us today.

[39:10] Dennis Setteducati: Yes.

[39:11] Andrew Boza: I love that. I feel like we could be chatting for hours.

[39:16] Bret Shuford: I know. All we need is beer with drinks in our hands.

[39:20] Andrew Boza: Yeah. Let's FaceTime anytime.

[39:22] Dennis Setteducati: We'll we'll make it happen.

[39:23] Bret Shuford: I'm so glad to finally meet you guys.

[39:25] Andrew Boza: Yeah.

[39:26] Dennis Setteducati: We are so glad too. Thank you for setting this up. We really appreciate it.

[39:30] Bret Shuford: Yeah. All right, make sure you guys go follow Crafty Lumberjacks and don't forget to love who you love and love what you do.