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[0:12] Jesse McAnally: Hello, I'm Jesse McAnally.

[0:15] Andrew DeWolf: And I'm Andrew DeWolf.

[0:16] Brianna Jones: And I'm Brianna Jones.

[0:18] Jesse McAnally: And welcome to Musicals with Cheese, a podcast where I try to get Andrew and Bree to like musical theater.

[0:26] Jesse McAnally: And as always, there's been no change. Bree, you've always been our producer for the last like 60 episodes, right?

[0:33] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[0:34] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[0:36] Jesse McAnally: Um, stolen valor. I really wanted to try to do this bit, but nah.

[0:40] Andrew DeWolf: Nah.

[0:43] Jesse McAnally: When you came back for Mamma Mia, the joke was we pretended you never left. And I don't think we can do this. Join us in welcoming our former producer and one of the loveliest human beings on the planet, who is an incredible audio specialist, video specialist, and everything under the sun, and a very true good friend. Not like one of those fake friends you see on this podcast. It's Brianna Jones.

[1:04] Brianna Jones: Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here. This is probably huge for all the fans, because they probably were like, oh, they probably hate each other now. That's why it all went down.

[1:14] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, I think there is no lore here.

[1:17] Brianna Jones: There's no lore here.

[1:18] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, there's no lore. There really is no lore behind the musical switches nonsense.

[1:24] Brianna Jones: Um.

[1:29] Jesse McAnally: Oh no.

[1:30] Brianna Jones: Although I would love art of you guys fighting Mortal Kombat style.

[1:34] Andrew DeWolf: Oh my god.

[1:36] Jesse McAnally: I would wonder who would win.

[1:40] Brianna Jones: Bree.

[1:41] Andrew DeWolf: No.

[1:41] Brianna Jones: Yeah, it's definitely Bree.

[1:43] Andrew DeWolf: I can't even do a push-up.

[1:44] Brianna Jones: Bree.

[1:45] Jesse McAnally: How tall are you?

[1:46] Brianna Jones: I'm 5'5.

[1:47] Jesse McAnally: Oh, yeah, I'm slightly taller than you.

[1:50] Brianna Jones: You're significantly taller.

[1:52] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. I stand next to Bree and I feel like I got my little buddy. And I stand next to Liz and I'm like, oh, you're almost taller than me. And Liz, you're like mostly leg, where Bree is like.

[2:03] Brianna Jones: My torso's a penny compared to the rest of everything.

[2:08] Jesse McAnally: You know what's really funny is that I have like more torso than legs.

[2:14] Brianna Jones: So we're kind of opposite here.

[2:16] Jesse McAnally: You know, if Andrew, if you and I started a Frankenstein idea, we could build like one functioning human being between the two of them.

[2:23] Andrew DeWolf: Oh shit.

[2:29] Jesse McAnally: So would you take Liz's small torso and my small legs? Or the long legs and the long torso?

[2:35] Brianna Jones: And the long legs and long torso.

[2:37] Jesse McAnally: You make both.

[2:38] Brianna Jones: Oh, both.

[2:38] Jesse McAnally: So a short Liz Bree and a tall Liz Bree.

[2:42] Brianna Jones: You know what? We're all being way too nice to each other because we gotta be mean. Um, this has gotta be our time to be real mean to each other, 'cause we're talking about, we're revisiting something. Um, if we go back to the past and play the shitty games that suck ass, one of the first episodes that Bree was a real big active participant in was our original Mean Girls the Musical episode. Um, you were very excited about that. You watched the musical, you were very involved in it. And I've re-listened to this episode recently.

[3:08] Brianna Jones: Have you?

[3:16] Jesse McAnally: You know what? I should have, but I definitely did not. I don't like to listen to myself, so that's fair.

[3:23] Jesse McAnally: It is a very good episode. We have a lot of good critiques in it. Um, and you dive into your high school experience where a camera crew visited your school and documented your football scene.

[3:38] Brianna Jones: Yes.

[3:39] Jesse McAnally: Oh my god, they did do that.

[3:41] Brianna Jones: I mean, they did do that, but not this episode. Let's not talk about it.

[3:44] Jesse McAnally: Yes, go back to our original Mean Girls episode. But this week we are talking about the brand new 2024 film, Mean Girls.

[3:54] Jesse McAnally: Cue the music.

[3:58] Jesse McAnally: It's a cautionary tale of fear and lust and pride based on actual events where people die. No one died, but how far would it go to be popular and not? Would you resist temptation? No, you would not. Just admit it sometimes what you are. Mean a season knowledge, and the mean can take you far. Maybe this will make you think twice. This is a cautionary tale about corruption and betrayal. You can buy integrity at the mall. It's not for sale. This is a cautionary tale.

[5:05] Jesse McAnally: So Mean Girls is a film directed by Samantha Jane and Arturo Perez Jr., which, as a side note, these people look like fucking babies. Um, and the fact that they're directing a movie really personally insults me. It was written once again by Tina Fey with music and lyrics by Nell Benjamin and Jeff Richmond. Um, based on the film Mean Girls from 2004, as well as the 2018 musical Mean Girls by Jeff Richmond and Nell Benjamin, and Tina Fey. Um, based all of that is based on a book called Queen Bees and Wannabes by Rosalind Wiseman, but no one actually has ever read that book, and if you had, you lie. Um, The Mean Girls was originally set for a streaming only release on Paramount Plus, but was switched to a theatrical release in September of 2023 after positive test scores.

The film had its world premiere in New York City on January 8th, 2024, and was released in the United States on January 12th by Paramount Pictures. The plot of Mean Girls is Katie Heron is a hit with the Plastics, an A-list girl clique at her new school, but everything changes when she makes the mistake of falling in love with Aaron Samuels, the ex-boyfriend of Alpha Plastic Regina George.

[6:16] Jesse McAnally: Alright, so yo, I thought this movie was gonna suck so hard. I was convinced. I feel like I heard bad things. I only heard awful things going into this.

[6:28] Andrew DeWolf: I did too.

[6:30] Jesse McAnally: It wasn't that bad.

[6:30] Andrew DeWolf: It was not at all.

[6:32] Jesse McAnally: It was fine. There was a lot of stuff I didn't like. Like there was some weird stuff that I think, especially near the end where they decided that they wanted to just reference themselves over and over and I don't know. It was a bit weird.

[6:46] Andrew DeWolf: It does lose winning the most part.

[6:49] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. There was a lot of good stuff in here, though. It wasn't exactly. I mean, it's not even close to the worst musical movie we've seen in the past year.

[6:59] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. No.

[6:59] Jesse McAnally: And it's one of the rare ones that I think is an improvement on the staged source material by a good amount. Um, because if you remember our Mean Girls episode, Bree, none of us fucking liked that musical.

[7:14] Brianna Jones: We didn't.

[7:15] Jesse McAnally: Oh my god. Yeah. We were very catty girls.

[7:21] Brianna Jones: We were catty, crass and mean towards Mean Girls, but we had actually good criticisms. I guess it was back in the days when we actually thought about what we wanted to say before we said it.

[7:31] Jesse McAnally: You know, those days are gone.

[7:34] Brianna Jones: Yeah. Long gone.

[7:36] Jesse McAnally: Um, but Andrew and Liz, I am curious of your opinions first, because Bree and I, we saw this movie in the theater together, like we sat next to each other, we held hands, we sang together, it was lovely. But I want to hear your guys' opinions of the film. Um, Liz, you're first, because I literally have not spoken to you about this.

[7:55] Liz Eston: Yeah, true. Um, I saw it in theaters a while ago, I dragged my boyfriend with me, so I didn't go to the movies alone for once this podcast. So we're getting better. Shout out to my boyfriend for going to see Mean Girls.

[8:09] Jesse McAnally: Thanks, boyfriend for going to see Mean Girls. Appreciate it.

[8:13] Liz Eston: Uh, but yeah, I'm a fan of the stage show.

[8:17] Andrew DeWolf: Yikes, bro. Can you admit that on main?

[8:20] Liz Eston: Oh, what a take.

[8:22] Andrew DeWolf: Uh yeah, I know it's a take.

[8:23] Liz Eston: How dare you like something? And all of you dislike it.

[8:27] Andrew DeWolf: But it's fun and stupid and I enjoy it. Like it's a fun thing to listen to sometimes when I'm bored. Like whatever. I do like the music.

[8:38] Brianna Jones: I agree with you there. Like the music is fun. The stage show isn't great, but the music's fun.

[8:42] Liz Eston: Um, and so going into this, my expectations were down to the floor. And I was like, it's pretty good. I didn't mind it. I mean, it wasn't like it was I agree with Jess, it didn't improve things, some things with the stage show. But I have my own gripes with it. Based on varying types of things. And I feel like most people who like the stage show are the ones that have the gripes, and people that were kind of negative to ambivalent about it are the ones that kind of prefer the movie.

[9:10] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[9:10] Liz Eston: Um, but Andrew, what are you actually kind of prefer the movie a little bit?

[9:15] Andrew DeWolf: But despite my gripes.

[9:17] Liz Eston: Fair enough. Now, Andrew, what did you think of the film?

[9:23] Andrew DeWolf: I thought it was pretty decent. Uh, I do like the staging. Well, I guess not the staging, the choreography. The way they film some of the songs, the choreography, the way they film some of the songs, and it's not every song, but there's some in particular that are like very stylized that I thought were pretty fun, and stuff that you couldn't do on stage as well, which is cool. Um, I think I'm, I've been thinking about it, and I think I'm just also not a fan of this story at all. I have not watched the original movie, but I feel like I wouldn't like that. Um, I hate all the characters, which maybe this is one of those things where you're supposed to hate all the characters, but I don't feel like it's framed that way. Like I'm not, I don't think you're supposed to, but I kind of just think everyone sucks.

[10:20] Brianna Jones: Um, I can see that. Well, Bree, you're the big Mean Girls, like you love the first Mean Girls film a lot.

[10:26] Brianna Jones: Yeah, I actually just watched it again the other day, um, on VHS, by the way.

[10:31] Andrew DeWolf: Oh my.

[10:32] Brianna Jones: Oh yeah.

[10:32] Andrew DeWolf: Was it a pink VHS?

[10:35] Brianna Jones: No, it was not.

[10:36] Andrew DeWolf: That's um, wasted opportunity.

[10:38] Brianna Jones: Missed opportunity.

[10:39] Andrew DeWolf: Missed opportunity.

[10:40] Brianna Jones: It's only for Barbie.

[10:46] Brianna Jones: I actually really do like the original Mean Girls movie. When I watched the musical, and I don't know if it's the musical movie. I don't know if like they because they, you know, typical stage show is closer to like three hours. I feel like this movie was so rushed. I feel like I didn't get to know any of the characters, any of their motives. Um, and like I almost needed to know the source material coming into this film.

[11:15] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[11:16] Brianna Jones: On one hand, I completely agree. I don't know how newbies will feel about, well, Andrew feels about it, but maybe that's part of the reason why Andrew didn't like any of the characters is because we didn't have big character moments because we replaced it with big musical numbers.

[11:34] Jesse McAnally: I also heard the critique that people would forget to act while they were singing.

[11:40] Brianna Jones: Um, I didn't see that, but I heard that one.

[11:44] Jesse McAnally: That's very wrong.

[11:45] Brianna Jones: Maybe Angori Rice.

[11:47] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[11:48] Brianna Jones: Oh god. We'll talk about that later.

[11:51] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about the good still. Um, are we all agreed that Renee Rapp as Regina George is a fucking revelation?

[12:03] Brianna Jones: Life-changing shit.

[12:05] Jesse McAnally: Absolutely. She is mother.

[12:08] Brianna Jones: She's mother.

[12:10] Jesse McAnally: And I know she's sick about this, but seeing a woman that looks like her in a movie as like a main character. Not that she's like unattractive. She's just very strong looking. Like, if you take notice during like the Santa Claus scene, like one of her legs is the size of Angori Rice, and she looks like she could break me over her back. Like she is.

[12:32] Brianna Jones: Well, I know what Jess was thinking about.

[12:34] Jesse McAnally: Well, you've joined Twitter. You joined the countless tweets of people that want Renee Rapp to break their backs.

[12:40] Brianna Jones: Yes, yes. I want Renee Rapp to punch me in the face and all these things.

[12:44] Jesse McAnally: Then I would say thank you.

[12:46] Brianna Jones: Which gets as many alt accounts dedicated to Renee Rapp.

[12:50] Jesse McAnally: Well, those are actual lines from the original Mean Girls film where it's like, uh, Regina George punched me in the face and I loved it.

[12:57] Brianna Jones: I didn't, I didn't buy that with Rachel McAdams.

[13:00] Jesse McAnally: I would a hundred percent buy that from Renee Rapp.

[13:03] Brianna Jones: Absolutely.

[13:04] Jesse McAnally: I love Rachel McAdams as an actress. I think she's a very talented actress, but her Regina George is very much like 90s comedy mode where it's like big and bubbly and like, oh, so you agree, like you look pretty.

[13:16] Brianna Jones: And I really like Renee Rapp's interpretation of actual super villain Regina George, where she's like, so you agree, you look pretty.

[13:26] Jesse McAnally: Like it's just very understated, calm. It's more scary, more intimidating, and more like, oh my god, this woman could kill me than the other one.

[13:35] Brianna Jones: I felt no actual tension from Regina George in the original film.

[13:39] Jesse McAnally: I felt deep fear of Regina in this film.

[13:43] Brianna Jones: I don't know if that's just a me thing.

[13:46] Jesse McAnally: No, you're right.

[13:47] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[13:48] Jesse McAnally: It's um, whereas do we do we want to talk about the rest of the cast of the other plastics?

[13:56] Brianna Jones: Uh, what is there to say?

[13:59] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, what's there to say?

[14:00] Brianna Jones: They cut them from the m from the, uh, movie more or less.

[14:07] Jesse McAnally: I feel like in the musical they had like more numbers and there was a bit of development for those two characters.

[14:13] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[14:13] Jesse McAnally: Nope.

[14:14] Brianna Jones: Um, they tried.

[14:15] Jesse McAnally: There was nothing here.

[14:16] Brianna Jones: Well, what's wrong with me is longer in the first in the original.

[14:19] Jesse McAnally: They cut it to two verses in the movie.

[14:21] Brianna Jones: And that's it.

[14:23] Jesse McAnally: That's not good.

[14:23] Brianna Jones: Because I realized that they could have cut it entirely.

[14:25] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[14:26] Brianna Jones: Like this game.

[14:27] Jesse McAnally: But BB Wood didn't have a song then, so they had to put it in somewhere.

[14:30] Brianna Jones: I also felt like her song came out of nowhere.

[14:32] Jesse McAnally: I was later like, oh.

[14:34] Brianna Jones: I was like, oh, she's singing.

[14:35] Jesse McAnally: Okay.

[14:36] Brianna Jones: My boyfriend felt the exact same.

[14:37] Jesse McAnally: I looked at him and was like, what's happening?

[14:39] Brianna Jones: Um, she doesn't have any, she doesn't have any moments before that, so you don't expect her to be a character that has a song.

[14:48] Jesse McAnally: It's like if, uh, if like a background character just like suddenly stepped forward and just started singing.

[14:53] Brianna Jones: It's like that literally happens in this movie.

[14:58] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[14:59] Brianna Jones: That literally happens at the end of this movie.

[15:02] Jesse McAnally: Cause oh god.

[15:03] Brianna Jones: Well, I guess that means we have to talk about Angori Rice, which that is a good transition to.

[15:08] Jesse McAnally: Thank you.

[15:09] Brianna Jones: She's bad, right?

[15:10] Jesse McAnally: She's not particularly good in this movie.

[15:13] Brianna Jones: And it's, I'm not sure it's the vocal performance or anything like that.

[15:18] Jesse McAnally: Um, let's talk about the stage show.

[15:20] Brianna Jones: And a lot of people are being a little unfair in comparison.

[15:24] Jesse McAnally: And I re-listened to our episode, and I'm able to, uh, they're bringing up a critique that I specifically had when I did it record the episode.

[15:34] Brianna Jones: So I said in the Mean Girls Musical that the character of Katie was not like Lindsay Lohan's kind of more calm, demure, like quieter.

[15:45] Jesse McAnally: And she's much more antsy, tikky, like she's much closer to Kimmy Schmidt than Lindsay Lohan.

[15:51] Brianna Jones: Um, which was Erica Henningson's, uh, performance choice.

[15:55] Jesse McAnally: Uh, I didn't think it worked.

[15:56] Brianna Jones: I, I don't think it works for the musical.

[15:58] Jesse McAnally: And so for the movie, they decided to have Angori Rice, who is playing something much more muted, much closer to what Lindsay Lohan was doing in the film.

[16:07] Brianna Jones: And I like that choice for this story.

[16:12] Jesse McAnally: I don't think Angori Rice really plays this.

[16:16] Brianna Jones: She doesn't have the voice for this musical.

[16:20] Jesse McAnally: And it's one thing if you do a Hugh Jackman and it's like you don't have the voice for this.

[16:24] Brianna Jones: Well, sing bring them home anyway. Good luck, bro.

[16:27] Jesse McAnally: And the creatives actively knowing she can't do it, do it.

[16:31] Brianna Jones: So they cut every verse to every song, replace her opening number with a much calmer, less difficult to sing song, and take her one big number at the end and give it to a random stranger.

[16:43] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[16:44] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[16:44] Jesse McAnally: I think that was my biggest critique about Katie in this, uh, in the musical movie was that like all the songs are so boring.

[16:54] Brianna Jones: Everything she sings is so boring.

[16:57] Jesse McAnally: And the one time she tries to put energy into a line, it gets memed for days.

[17:03] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[17:04] Jesse McAnally: As Tina Fey refers to us as fucking Broadway cunts, um, her words not mine, t-shirts on sale now.

[17:13] Brianna Jones: You know what? That, that line's fine.

[17:16] Jesse McAnally: I feel like y'all are picking on her.

[17:17] Brianna Jones: It is no worse than any other line in it.

[17:20] Jesse McAnally: And the framing of her in that shot is just as stylized and a big swing as any of the other songs in this movie.

[17:27] Brianna Jones: The fact that y'all are picking on it for that, it really is nonsense to me.

[17:32] Jesse McAnally: And yes, y'all are being Broadway.

[17:34] Brianna Jones: Are we talking about?

[17:34] Jesse McAnally: Because I feel like I'm not sure.

[17:35] Brianna Jones: I can't even watch when she touches his hair, but I, and I watched a snake eat a cow.

[17:40] Jesse McAnally: No!

[17:41] Brianna Jones: I can't even watch when she touches his hair.

[17:44] Jesse McAnally: And I watched the snake eat a cow.

[17:48] Brianna Jones: I'm pretty sure.

[17:49] Jesse McAnally: Oh, that is a, that is a dumb lyric at least.

[17:51] Brianna Jones: It is a dumb.

[17:51] Jesse McAnally: They're all dumb.

[17:52] Brianna Jones: They're all dumb.

[17:54] Jesse McAnally: It's, I think it was specifically the framing of the shot.

[17:57] Brianna Jones: Yeah, it's a framing shot.

[17:59] Jesse McAnally: The vocal, um, the vocal nonsense being done on her voice, which there is a good amount.

[18:12] Brianna Jones: Um, and but that's not on everyone.

[18:15] Jesse McAnally: Like everyone, even people that we know can sing, like, um, you know, like Renee Rapp.

[18:21] Brianna Jones: She has some vocal assistance done through a computer and all that.

[18:26] Jesse McAnally: Um, and that is not inherently a bad thing.

[18:30] Brianna Jones: It's just a thing.

[18:31] Jesse McAnally: Um, so I feel like people are picking on the wrong things with that performance, and no, it's not the fault of the audio help.

[18:40] Brianna Jones: It's the fact that she was wrong for the role to begin with, and we should stop picking on her and blame the people that forced her into the role.

[18:47] Jesse McAnally: Is she anyone, Angori Rice?

[18:49] Brianna Jones: I had no idea who she was.

[18:50] Jesse McAnally: I know she's Australia.

[18:52] Brianna Jones: She's in the MCU.

[18:54] Jesse McAnally: She's in the Spider-Man movies.

[18:56] Brianna Jones: Yes.

[18:56] Jesse McAnally: She plays Betty.

[18:57] Brianna Jones: She's that girl?

[18:59] Jesse McAnally: Yes, that's her.

[19:01] Brianna Jones: Oh.

[19:01] Jesse McAnally: Okay, good.

[19:02] Brianna Jones: She's also in this movie that I watched a while ago called Every Day, where she plays a character who falls in love with a nebulous genderless being that is in a new body every day.

[19:12] Jesse McAnally: You know, you can tell me that's, uh, Aaron Samuels' backstory, and I believe you.

[19:16] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[19:17] Jesse McAnally: Oh god, not him.

[19:19] Brianna Jones: Um, so the love story, which is the main crux of this movie.

[19:24] Jesse McAnally: Has it ever worked?

[19:26] Brianna Jones: I brought up in our first episode that she is not a character, or Aaron Samuels is not a character, he's a cipher.

[19:32] Jesse McAnally: Um, and it's slightly less true here, but only slightly, because he just has cute hair.

[19:39] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[19:40] Jesse McAnally: Well, also, I feel like he was cast because he's on a hit Amazon show that teens like a lot.

[19:46] Brianna Jones: I also watched this show, so I am guilty of it.

[19:48] Jesse McAnally: I love this show.

[19:49] Brianna Jones: Uh, it's the summer I turned pretty on Amazon Prime.

[19:52] Jesse McAnally: He plays like the main love interest, the bad boy love interest between the two options, because this is a YA book adaptation.

[19:59] Brianna Jones: So, like, I feel like he was cast for that reason, and he can't sing in.

[20:03] Jesse McAnally: So they cut all his songs.

[20:05] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[20:05] Jesse McAnally: Well, no, I actually heard a story.

[20:07] Brianna Jones: Uh, he didn't want to do it because there was singing, and then they called him back saying, hey, we cut all the singing. Will you come back and audition?

[20:16] Jesse McAnally: And that's why he got cast.

[20:18] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[20:18] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[20:19] Brianna Jones: Um, good good for him, good for him.

[20:22] Jesse McAnally: Good for you, Chris Briny.

[20:24] Brianna Jones: Um, so with all that, I think the direction of this film is good.

[20:28] Jesse McAnally: I think there's very intentional stylistic choices being done here, specifically with aspect ratio.

[20:35] Brianna Jones: They are playing with aspect ratio, lighting, and colors to make you know very clearly when we are in song world and when we are in the real world, which makes the song supplement the story without taking away from the narrative development.

[20:48] Jesse McAnally: However, that means when we're not in song world, the school kind of looks like Auschwitz because they desaturate the colors to shit, and it just looks like a miserable place to be.

[20:59] Brianna Jones: I mean, to be fair, yeah, it is an American school.

[21:04] Jesse McAnally: I think the like party scene was fun.

[21:07] Brianna Jones: They incorporated a lot of like editing with like making it look like TikTok and all these different videos.

[21:12] Jesse McAnally: That was a fun scene.

[21:13] Brianna Jones: Was it the best?

[21:15] Jesse McAnally: I think that entire party scene from, uh, what is the song called, sexy sexy sexy to someone gets hurt.

[21:24] Brianna Jones: That is as I use this phrase a lot again.

[21:27] Jesse McAnally: When that scene when those moments are happening, there is nowhere else I'd rather be than right there.

[21:32] Brianna Jones: Because this, the sexy scene is like they turned what is kind of a dumb number into a motif and reference to the telephone song from Bye Bye Birdie, and I thought that was really smart and cool.

[21:44] Jesse McAnally: I thought it was neat.

[21:47] Brianna Jones: I took work, I took effort.

[21:50] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[21:51] Brianna Jones: And then one of my favorite songs.

[21:53] Jesse McAnally: It was your favorite song in the first one.

[21:57] Brianna Jones: My favorite song is someone gets hurt.

[21:59] Jesse McAnally: So yeah.

[22:00] Brianna Jones: That's a good one.

[22:01] Jesse McAnally: That scene fucking slapped.

[22:02] Brianna Jones: Yes.

[22:04] Jesse McAnally: Um, and both of them being next to each other.

[22:06] Brianna Jones: It's just a joyous moment in movie musicals.

[22:10] Jesse McAnally: And Bree, when you're in the theater, I remember just turning next to you, and you are full on dancing and singing to sexy along with the actress on screen.

[22:18] Brianna Jones: It was wonderful.

[22:20] Jesse McAnally: Listen, I will sometimes just randomly put that song on and bother Jake with it all the time.

[22:26] Brianna Jones: I can't be who I want and be and sexy.

[22:30] Jesse McAnally: I was about to say Jake was looking dead-eyed into the screen, not feeling anything during that scene.

[22:36] Brianna Jones: And I was wondering why, and now I know.

[22:38] Jesse McAnally: Because he hears the song all the time.

[22:41] Brianna Jones: Oh, it's that song.

[22:43] Jesse McAnally: At least it's a new version.

[22:45] Brianna Jones: Oh yes, yes.

[22:46] Jesse McAnally: Um, there are some line changes in there.

[22:49] Brianna Jones: Um, who cares?

[22:52] Jesse McAnally: Like, uh, people are like, I can't believe they replaced Rosa Parks with Joan of Arc.

[22:55] Brianna Jones: They're like, you're afraid to be replaced the civil rights leader with a 12-year-old who died by via stake.

[23:02] Jesse McAnally: So she also fought in the army.

[23:04] Brianna Jones: I don't know.

[23:06] Jesse McAnally: No, no, I, Tina Fey struggles with her own humor, and I brought this up in the first episode.

[23:10] Brianna Jones: She doesn't like being told when she's wrong.

[23:12] Jesse McAnally: And I think her fighting back against the quote unquote Broadway cunts is just her being classic Tina Fey.

[23:19] Brianna Jones: And we shouldn't get angry about it because it's kind of funny at this point.

[23:24] Jesse McAnally: Um, you know what else is probably kind of funny?

[23:27] Brianna Jones: The critics' opinions on this.

[23:29] Jesse McAnally: It's time for our favorite segment of the show.

[23:32] Brianna Jones: Breviews.

[23:34] Jesse McAnally: Oh, you got actual reviews.

[23:36] Brianna Jones: Look at this.

[23:36] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, I went to the fucking New York Times, motherfucker.

[23:40] Brianna Jones: It's time for Breviews.

[23:47] Jesse McAnally: So we have the New York Times review.

[23:50] Brianna Jones: Um, Get in Loser. Regina Regina George is back by Manola uh Dargus.

[23:58] Jesse McAnally: Um, that's no Ben Bramley.

[24:01] Brianna Jones: That's not Ben, no Ben Bramley.

[24:03] Jesse McAnally: Who's the other guy?

[24:04] Brianna Jones: Uh, Jesse Green.

[24:06] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, Jesse Green.

[24:08] Brianna Jones: I guess.

[24:08] Jesse McAnally: Well, this is movies.

[24:10] Brianna Jones: So they don't do movies.

[24:12] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, he would be lost at a movie theater.

[24:15] Brianna Jones: He'd be like, what do we do here?

[24:18] Jesse McAnally: Where's, where's the balcony?

[24:19] Brianna Jones: I'm sorry.

[24:22] Jesse McAnally: I need to take two poops before this.

[24:26] Brianna Jones: You don't take two poops before a movie.

[24:28] Jesse McAnally: You just poop in the seats if you're at a fucking remote.

[24:30] Brianna Jones: Yeah, you poop in your Dune popcorn bucket.

[24:32] Jesse McAnally: Oh, well, you do other things than Dune popcorn bucket.

[24:36] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[24:38] Jesse McAnally: Alright.

[24:39] Brianna Jones: In making the transition from stage to screen, the filmmakers have cut many of the show's songs by Jeff Richmond and Neil Benjamin.

[24:48] Jesse McAnally: The remaining tunes blur together with the exception of Meet the Plastics and World Burn.

[24:55] Brianna Jones: Regina's character-defining lung busters.

[25:00] Jesse McAnally: Nothing if not a showboater, she enters in black fetish wear for plastics, belting it out with such old school diva command that she smacks the movie awake.

[25:11] Brianna Jones: She doesn't have the nuance of Rachel McAdams, who played the role in the 2004 film, but Rap gives the character oomph and swagger.

[25:20] Jesse McAnally: The Dominatrix light getup helps.

[25:24] Jesse McAnally: Sounds like they were just Regina.

[25:28] Brianna Jones: Most of their views are I I'm horny for Renee Rap, but I can't say that explicitly, so I must go around it.

[25:35] Jesse McAnally: You know who definitely would go around it very well?

[25:38] Brianna Jones: Ben Bradley.

[25:43] Jesse McAnally: When Regina howls, I don't care who you are, you readily believe her.

[25:50] Jesse McAnally: Alright. I think I think that's enough there.

[25:53] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[25:54] Jesse McAnally: We don't need to read more than that. I think that's enough.

[25:55] Brianna Jones: The second paragraph is like Katie's fine, but Regina's better.

[25:59] Jesse McAnally: Like that's just like the the the New York Times putting horny on main there.

[26:04] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[26:06] Jesse McAnally: The Dominatrix light.

[26:10] Brianna Jones: I believe her.

[26:11] Jesse McAnally: Alright. Um, alright. Liz, are you ready for our second part where Andrew and Liz are going head to head?

[26:20] Brianna Jones: I'm sorry, I made the game.

[26:21] Jesse McAnally: Andrew and Bree are going head to head in the letterbox game where they have to.

[26:26] Brianna Jones: I made it.

[26:26] Jesse McAnally: I would win.

[26:27] Brianna Jones: Yes, yes, you would win.

[26:29] Jesse McAnally: Um, Bree, do you remember how to play the letterbox game?

[26:33] Brianna Jones: Of course I do.

[26:35] Jesse McAnally: Well, in case you're new here, we are gonna read real letterbox reviews from the Mean Girls movie on Letterboxd, and they are either one star or five star reviews.

[26:44] Jesse McAnally: And Andrew and Bree have to guess whether they're a one-star or five star just by the review alone.

[26:49] Jesse McAnally: Bree.

[26:50] Jesse McAnally: Actually, Liz, you get on Bree's team.

[26:52] Jesse McAnally: Andrew, you and I.

[26:53] Andrew DeWolf: I feel like I don't work with you.

[26:57] Jesse McAnally: We have to stick together.

[26:59] Brianna Jones: I thought the whole point of the movie is girls, girls don't stick together.

[27:03] Jesse McAnally: They do at the end.

[27:04] Brianna Jones: It just takes them a while.

[27:05] Jesse McAnally: Oh, it takes them very long time.

[27:07] Brianna Jones: Yeah, Bree and I fought prior to this, and now we're free to do that.

[27:09] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, the fan art's out there.

[27:11] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[27:12] Jesse McAnally: Alright. Are you ready, Bree?

[27:14] Brianna Jones: Yes.

[27:16] Jesse McAnally: Mommy?

[27:17] Brianna Jones: Sorry.

[27:17] Brianna Jones: Mommy.

[27:20] Jesse McAnally: Five stars.

[27:21] Brianna Jones: Correct.

[27:23] Jesse McAnally: Alright.

[27:24] Jesse McAnally: Andrew.

[27:25] Jesse McAnally: You ready?

[27:28] Andrew DeWolf: I'm as ready as I'll ever be.

[27:32] Jesse McAnally: Please, Regina, eat me.

[27:36] Brianna Jones: You can't put your own reviews in here, Jess.

[27:40] Andrew DeWolf: Eat me, mommy.

[27:42] Jesse McAnally: That is correct.

[27:45] Jesse McAnally: Alright, Liz.

[27:47] Jesse McAnally: Alright.

[27:47] Jesse McAnally: Alright, Bree, you ready?

[27:49] Brianna Jones: Mm-hmm.

[27:49] Jesse McAnally: I'm a lesbian.

[27:51] Brianna Jones: What?

[27:52] Jesse McAnally: Five five stars.

[27:55] Brianna Jones: I'm not a lesbian, by the way.

[27:58] Brianna Jones: Sure.

[27:59] Brianna Jones: Mom, this is not me coming out.

[28:02] Brianna Jones: It's me coming in.

[28:03] Andrew DeWolf: Uh-huh.

[28:06] Andrew DeWolf: I'm ready.

[28:08] Jesse McAnally: Passive aggressive girls.

[28:11] Andrew DeWolf: That is the entire movie, yes.

[28:14] Jesse McAnally: Um.

[28:15] Brianna Jones: I think some of them are active aggressive.

[28:17] Jesse McAnally: Someone got hit by a bus.

[28:18] Brianna Jones: Someone did get hit by a bus.

[28:20] Jesse McAnally: That wasn't on purpose.

[28:22] Brianna Jones: Unless, are you trying to say that was a bus intentional?

[28:25] Andrew DeWolf: I think there's like a salt burn kind of situation going on here with Katie's like sucking Regina's come out of the bathtub and trying to get her to die.

[28:35] Jesse McAnally: I thought you were gonna say there's a they're gonna say the bus driver has his own movie.

[28:40] Jesse McAnally: We're gonna go with one star.

[28:42] Brianna Jones: That's correct.

[28:46] Jesse McAnally: Well, you you guys haven't seen Saltburn, the worst film that ever got nominated for like awards.

[28:52] Andrew DeWolf: I haven't seen it yet.

[28:53] Andrew DeWolf: I started it, but I didn't know.

[28:54] Andrew DeWolf: It's Garbo.

[28:55] Andrew DeWolf: It's hot Garbo.

[28:56] Jesse McAnally: I wanna give it a sh I'm gonna give it a chance.

[28:58] Jesse McAnally: Watch the talent of Mr. Ripley.

[29:00] Jesse McAnally: That's actually a good movie, and it's got the same thing.

[29:04] Jesse McAnally: Alright, Tommy.

[29:06] Jesse McAnally: Alright.

[29:08] Jesse McAnally: Okay, are you ready, Bree?

[29:09] Brianna Jones: Yes.

[29:12] Jesse McAnally: Americans are so weird.

[29:16] Brianna Jones: One star.

[29:18] Jesse McAnally: Correct.

[29:22] Jesse McAnally: Andrew.

[29:23] Jesse McAnally: Oh, did Andrew get a play in the last round?

[29:26] Brianna Jones: Yeah, you did.

[29:27] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[29:29] Andrew DeWolf: Safe to say, I came out of the cinema ten times gayer.

[29:35] Jesse McAnally: Five stars.

[29:36] Brianna Jones: That is a one star, Andrew.

[29:37] Andrew DeWolf: I'm sorry.

[29:38] Andrew DeWolf: Gay is bad, apparently.

[29:40] Jesse McAnally: It's bad to be gay, but also I am.

[29:43] Andrew DeWolf: That doesn't make any sense.

[29:45] Andrew DeWolf: You can be horny.

[29:46] Brianna Jones: I just find them.

[29:48] Andrew DeWolf: You can be horny while still hate the material.

[29:51] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[29:52] Jesse McAnally: Okay.

[29:53] Jesse McAnally: It's like criticizing the writing of your porn.

[29:57] Andrew DeWolf: I don't believe stepmom would do this.

[30:00] Andrew DeWolf: I don't emotionally believe.

[30:06] Jesse McAnally: Jess is revealing a lot about himself this episode.

[30:11] Brianna Jones: You're just like an open book when I come on the show.

[30:15] Jesse McAnally: Okay, Bree.

[30:17] Brianna Jones: Mm-hmm.

[30:18] Jesse McAnally: Lesbian boobs.

[30:20] Brianna Jones: Renee rap.

[30:22] Jesse McAnally: Sounds like five stars to me.

[30:24] Brianna Jones: That is a five.

[30:25] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[30:26] Jesse McAnally: Hell yeah.

[30:29] Jesse McAnally: That's in my autobiography.

[30:31] Brianna Jones: Um.

[30:34] Jesse McAnally: Andrew.

[30:36] Andrew DeWolf: Yep.

[30:38] Jesse McAnally: Didn't cry.

[30:44] Andrew DeWolf: Achievement that they're proud of.

[30:45] Andrew DeWolf: They expected to cry.

[30:51] Jesse McAnally: We're gonna go with one star.

[30:53] Andrew DeWolf: That is incorrect.

[30:53] Jesse McAnally: That was a five.

[30:55] Brianna Jones: Damn.

[30:56] Jesse McAnally: Bree's kicking your ass today, Andrew.

[30:58] Andrew DeWolf: Like hardcore.

[31:01] Jesse McAnally: She's the mean girl's expert.

[31:03] Andrew DeWolf: I'm not, you know, like I don't really have the I don't have the skills for this.

[31:06] Jesse McAnally: Are you saying you're smart in podcasts but stupid in mean girls?

[31:12] Andrew DeWolf: He doesn't get it.

[31:15] Jesse McAnally: Man, stop trying to make fetch happen, Andrew.

[31:19] Andrew DeWolf: Sorry.

[31:21] Jesse McAnally: Alright.

[31:21] Jesse McAnally: Smart with math, but stupid with love.

[31:24] Brianna Jones: A STEM girl anthem.

[31:26] Jesse McAnally: Hmm.

[31:31] Andrew DeWolf: I'm gonna go one star.

[31:34] Jesse McAnally: Correct.

[31:36] Jesse McAnally: I think she's cheating.

[31:38] Brianna Jones: I know, I'm channeling channeling my inner mean girl, okay?

[31:43] Jesse McAnally: Alright, Andrew.

[31:46] Andrew DeWolf: Mm-hmm.

[31:48] Jesse McAnally: Pretty woman can make you love anything.

[31:54] Andrew DeWolf: This sounds like a bot posted it.

[31:59] Andrew DeWolf: Pretty woman can make you love anything.

[32:01] Andrew DeWolf: Click my link.

[32:02] Andrew DeWolf: $599.

[32:04] Andrew DeWolf: Big big toddies.

[32:05] Andrew DeWolf: You show your bobs.

[32:07] Andrew DeWolf: Stepmom.

[32:10] Jesse McAnally: Um, why are you with Gotsa?

[32:12] Jesse McAnally: Can I go?

[32:13] Jesse McAnally: Can I go with five stars?

[32:15] Andrew DeWolf: That is correct.

[32:16] Jesse McAnally: Okay, good, good, good.

[32:18] Jesse McAnally: I got one.

[32:19] Andrew DeWolf: I got one.

[32:22] Jesse McAnally: Alright, Bree.

[32:23] Brianna Jones: You ready?

[32:24] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[32:25] Brianna Jones: She and girl.

[32:28] Jesse McAnally: One star.

[32:29] Brianna Jones: That's a five.

[32:31] Jesse McAnally: Really?

[32:32] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[32:32] Brianna Jones: That I that's shocking because I did hear a lot of critique that like the clothes they were wearing looked like they were from Shein.

[32:39] Jesse McAnally: Which I honestly I was fine with.

[32:43] Brianna Jones: Oh, Shein is like a knockoff clothes, like a website that's like for cheap ass clothes.

[32:48] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, like that.

[32:49] Brianna Jones: Yeah, the costumes did look cheap.

[32:51] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[32:52] Brianna Jones: Which honest I didn't mind it, but you know.

[32:55] Jesse McAnally: People were pretty disappointed, I think, because it's mean girls, and it's like you could have been like the original outfits were so iconic that they should have taken, you know, Liberty, like Creative Liberty there and made them like really good, but it kind of looked like they just ordered them off from this like cheap website.

[33:11] Brianna Jones: They ordered it from Temu.

[33:14] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, it's kind of Yeah, pretty much.

[33:16] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[33:16] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, pretty much, but for just Um, alright. Last one, Andrew.

[33:23] Jesse McAnally: Holding back my urge to be mean.

[33:29] Andrew DeWolf: One star.

[33:31] Jesse McAnally: That is correct.

[33:32] Jesse McAnally: Bree, that still makes you the winner of reviews.

[33:35] Jesse McAnally: The your namesake uh game that we have here.

[33:38] Brianna Jones: Good job.

[33:39] Jesse McAnally: Yay!

[33:41] Jesse McAnally: 10 out of 10, and Andrew, you are forever the loser.

[33:44] Brianna Jones: Um give your crown to Bree.

[33:47] Jesse McAnally: Oh.

[33:47] Jesse McAnally: You know, if I had a game named after me, I'd probably win it every time, too.

[33:52] Brianna Jones: I mean, just throwing that out there.

[33:54] Jesse McAnally: Where when's and and reviews?

[33:57] Andrew DeWolf: Andrew Vuz.

[33:58] Jesse McAnally: And reviews.

[33:59] Andrew DeWolf: And reviews.

[34:01] Jesse McAnally: Well, since you gave me a crown, I am breaking off pieces and giving it to all of you.

[34:06] Brianna Jones: We got we're all winners here.

[34:08] Jesse McAnally: I see.

[34:13] Jesse McAnally: You all make double.

[34:19] Jesse McAnally: Well, no, you gotta have the random person not involved in the plot sing the main song that ends the movie.

[34:24] Brianna Jones: She doesn't have a name.

[34:28] Jesse McAnally: Great choices made all around.

[34:30] Jesse McAnally: Speaking of great choices, let's talk about the great choice of joining us at Patreon in this mid-show announcement.

[34:43] Jesse McAnally: Hey guys!

[34:44] Jesse McAnally: Sorry to interrupt you in the middle of the show, but we've got a show at you.

[34:48] Jesse McAnally: Today's show is brought to you by the extremely kind donation fire donors over at Patreon.

[34:52] Andrew DeWolf: Andrew, what's Patreon?

[34:54] Andrew DeWolf: What's going on over there?

[34:56] Jesse McAnally: Oh man, Patreon's where you can go if you want to give us a little bit of money and also help like you know, keep the show running with it.

[35:01] Andrew DeWolf: And also, you get extra content.

[35:03] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, that's the real that's like the main reason you would actually go, is you get you get more stuff.

[35:07] Jesse McAnally: Um you can also request episodes and things like that.

[35:10] Andrew DeWolf: So there's a lot of cool stuff up there.

[35:12] Andrew DeWolf: Um, yeah, there's a lot of cool stuff.

[35:13] Andrew DeWolf: Um, me and Liz just started back up.

[35:15] Andrew DeWolf: We're doing has been hotel over there, which is pretty neat.

[35:19] Andrew DeWolf: Um I I don't like the show so far, but maybe I'll be wrong later.

[35:24] Andrew DeWolf: I'm often right and wrong occasionally.

[35:27] Andrew DeWolf: Um also we have a full commentary on Angels in the Outfield.

[35:31] Jesse McAnally: Bree, you and I did a full like a full commentary on a random episode of Little Mermaid the series where they were experimenting on crabs.

[35:41] Brianna Jones: Do you remember that?

[35:42] Brianna Jones: Yes, I do.

[35:43] Jesse McAnally: What what a wild time we had there.

[35:46] Brianna Jones: That felt like I was on drugs when we did that.

[35:50] Andrew DeWolf: Um we also have some letters from our um very kind people over on Spotify.

[35:57] Jesse McAnally: Do we want do you want to hear some of those?

[35:59] Andrew DeWolf: In response to our Disney's Wish review, Vibrant Disquid said there's a musical that's not a lot of people know about, but me and my friend discovered it today.

[36:06] Andrew DeWolf: It's epic, it's Greek mythology musical.

[36:09] Jesse McAnally: We've heard about this a lot.

[36:10] Jesse McAnally: It's not finished yet.

[36:11] Jesse McAnally: Wait till it's finished before you start requesting it to us.

[36:15] Andrew DeWolf: Um I that's I just wanted to address that really quick.

[36:18] Jesse McAnally: Um also in our response to our wicked trailer response, um, Charlotte Boyle said, I'm surprised you didn't mention this, but when I saw the teaser and they changed the iconic gravity riff, uh some added riff.

[36:29] Andrew DeWolf: I turned to my mom and thought we just said, Oh no, let's pray it's not cat 2019.

[36:34] Jesse McAnally: A lot of people brought up the riff.

[36:35] Jesse McAnally: Didn't really feel like I had to say anything about it.

[36:37] Jesse McAnally: Wasn't that big a deal.

[36:39] Andrew DeWolf: Um as well, we have a brand new review on Apple Podcast.

[36:45] Jesse McAnally: Uh, do we I you're gonna love this, Andrew.

[36:48] Andrew DeWolf: Oh boy.

[36:49] Jesse McAnally: Oh no.

[36:50] Jesse McAnally: Um, this was one sent to me by the one and only Alan Seals.

[36:54] Jesse McAnally: Um just to let us know how loved we are.

[36:57] Jesse McAnally: This is from um Ben the Folk Singer via Apple Podcast.

[37:03] Jesse McAnally: One star, Moronic.

[37:05] Jesse McAnally: Main host is the only one who prepares.

[37:07] Jesse McAnally: It seems like someone didn't read the premise of our show.

[37:13] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, I think the kind of the uh the point of the show is if you like, you know.

[37:18] Jesse McAnally: It's to set you up to ask me questions.

[37:20] Jesse McAnally: It doesn't work if you have nothing to ask me.

[37:24] Andrew DeWolf: It's okay.

[37:24] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, I mean that's fine.

[37:26] Jesse McAnally: No, no one has to like this show.

[37:27] Jesse McAnally: Um, in fact, after next week's episode, I'm pretty sure there'll there'll be a lot more one star reviews.

[37:33] Andrew DeWolf: No one's gonna like this show.

[37:35] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna die.

[37:37] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, um, so enjoy us while we're here.

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[38:33] Andrew DeWolf: Hear me, schools with cheese.

[38:35] Jesse McAnally: Alright, let's get back to the show.

[38:44] Jesse McAnally: So these songs, right? There's not that many, but we have a new one, and I think we should start with the one specifically written for the movie.

[38:54] Jesse McAnally: And that is "What Ifs," sung by Caddy.

[38:57] Brianna Jones: Katie.

[38:59] Jesse McAnally: I used to think I would spend every second I have right where my story began.

[39:04] Jesse McAnally: Goodbye.

[39:19] Jesse McAnally: On every star in the sky.

[39:24] Jesse McAnally: And I'm dreaming of what I could become. This is where home will be.

[39:32] Jesse McAnally: As long as my lives can bring. But my heart is dying to leave.

[39:39] Jesse McAnally: Cause I know there's more it's in me. I don't want to live with what ifs my has could have been if I had only tried not have that going on.

[39:54] Jesse McAnally: That's not a part of my plan. That's not the me that's not the me that I am.

[39:58] Andrew DeWolf: Boy, duh.

[40:00] Jesse McAnally: You in the audience will have just heard a clip of that, and I don't think I've heard a less enthused performance from a singer since Russell Crowe.

[40:09] Brianna Jones: I was gonna say since Timothy Shell.

[40:11] Jesse McAnally: Oh yes, it's Timothy Shell up.

[40:14] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[40:15] Jesse McAnally: Well, there's chocolate.

[40:18] Brianna Jones: And the chocolate.

[40:20] Jesse McAnally: Only one gives makes your confidence skyrocket.

[40:24] Brianna Jones: Oh my god, what is with the what is with people not giving a shit when they're the lead role in a fucking musical movie at this point?

[40:32] Jesse McAnally: They're not singers and they don't want to they don't want to be singing. Like the way she delivers it, I'm not even exaggerating. It is I don't wanna live with what if mine else could have been if I only tryna get back.

[40:50] Brianna Jones: It just sounds like she's reading it off the notes app of her phone while just on her way to work.

[40:56] Jesse McAnally: The backing vocals are more enthusiastic.

[40:59] Brianna Jones: Yes, they are. It makes me wonder was this add anything either? Like does this even need to be here?

[41:06] Jesse McAnally: I feel like it's not even a good I want song or anything, because it doesn't it doesn't tell us anything about what her story's actually gonna be.

[41:14] Brianna Jones: Um I feel like "Stupid with Love" does a better job of that.

[41:19] Jesse McAnally: Well let's talk about that one in the same kind of talk.

[41:24] Brianna Jones: When I was nine, I fell in love with this Peace Corps guy.

[41:35] Brianna Jones: Which made me cry by thirteen I gave up trying. I decided I would be a mathematician.

[41:41] Brianna Jones: Cause math is real. I memorized a lot of pie because addition and subtraction and division would never make me feel so stupid with love.

[41:51] Brianna Jones: I didn't get it, I didn't get it somehow. Smart with math but stupid with love.

[41:51] Brianna Jones: I didn't get it, I didn't get it till now.

[42:08] Brianna Jones: So thank you, Matt, for being there to bring me joy.

[42:14] Brianna Jones: And thank you, Matt, because now you brought me this cute boy.

[42:19] Brianna Jones: He's like someone from TV. He's like that guy who gives our roses to the swimming.

[42:24] Brianna Jones: His clothes is grooming. And he's a foot away from me with smoothie hair and shiny eyes that I can swim in.

[42:31] Brianna Jones: He has I've been in the room, and I'm super with love.

[42:39] Brianna Jones: Smart with that, but stupid with love. I wanna get it.

[42:44] Brianna Jones: I didn't get it till now. Everyone on the TikToks were making fun of this, specifically in comparison to one line where they'd compare the original stage show to the movie in their delivery.

[43:01] Jesse McAnally: So, in "Stupid with Love," there's the famous line, I'm astounded and non-plussed, I'm filled with calculus.

[43:07] Jesse McAnally: And in the Broadway version, it sounds like this.

[43:11] Jesse McAnally: I'm astounded and not plus. I'm filled with calculus.

[43:19] Jesse McAnally: And in the movie, she's like, I'm astounded and non-plussed. I am filled with calculus.

[43:26] Jesse McAnally: It's like so effective in describing the different energies.

[43:32] Brianna Jones: I don't mind it that much in this song. It kind of feels more dreamy here.

[43:40] Brianna Jones: It feels they are trying to make it work. They're trying to adjust to her skills, which I don't think they did as much for "What Ifs."

[43:47] Jesse McAnally: "What Ifs" feels like it should be a big passionate song, and this should feel like a little bit dreamy, a little out of world, where I feel like that kind of mellow voice lends itself, especially in the orchestration they're deciding to choose for this song.

[44:01] Brianna Jones: Liz is making a face like you're fucking idiot, Jess.

[44:03] Jesse McAnally: I don't know.

[44:04] Brianna Jones: I don't know. My issue with it is that line is idiotic as fuck.

[44:09] Brianna Jones: And I admit that as a fan of that song. That line is dumb as shit.

[44:12] Jesse McAnally: But because of the first one, it goes so quick, it's like, oh, she's excited. She's saying dumb shit.

[44:17] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[44:20] Jesse McAnally: It's like when you say it's really slow, you can think about what she's saying.

[44:24] Brianna Jones: And it's even dumber.

[44:27] Jesse McAnally: Like, there's the line, like, my favorite line instead of love is he's live and in the room. It's like, oh, a cute boy, cool. I'll take him.

[44:34] Brianna Jones: Like, it's very low standard moment. But it's like, oh.

[44:37] Jesse McAnally: They sing that fast.

[44:38] Brianna Jones: But it's like, oh, that's good. And then they sing this one so slow that you hear every word.

[44:43] Jesse McAnally: Like, "calculust" is too slow.

[44:47] Brianna Jones: That is a dumbass phrase. We should not sing it so slowly.

[44:52] Jesse McAnally: I think I agree. I feel like "What If" is supposed to be like a much bigger number, and it's just very like I was listening to the album before we started recording, and I was like, I got to the second song, I was like, damn.

[45:05] Jesse McAnally: This is boring.

[45:07] Brianna Jones: Like it's so I'm so bored. I am so bored.

[45:10] Jesse McAnally: She does like a couple like little like fun runs in there, kind of with the play, like with their words and everything. But I was just like, yeah, no. Not for me.

[45:16] Brianna Jones: And then I kind of like agree with you, like "Stupid with Love." I can see it. Because she's sitting in a classroom, like, it's a little dreamy. You know, she's really shy, I would say.

[45:26] Brianna Jones: Um I feel like the song can be like a little like "Stupid with Love." Like she's just kind of like being like in her shell a little bit, but I don't know.

[45:39] Brianna Jones: I think I did end up liking this song because of the ending, though.

[45:43] Brianna Jones: Where she almost gets hit by a bus.

[45:45] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[45:45] Brianna Jones: Yes. I was a big fan of that.

[45:52] Brianna Jones: Also, I will say I have listened to this song like out, like, like I listen to the sometimes I listen to the movie soundtrack, like before my work shift opens.

[46:00] Brianna Jones: And honestly, this song's kind of been growing on me the past week or so. I'm like, I dig the vibe.

[46:04] Brianna Jones: I just think the calculus thing is like you should have just cut it. You should have just fucking cut it.

[46:09] Jesse McAnally: Yeah. Well, like they cut specific lines in the next song I want to talk about, "Apex Predator."

[46:14] Brianna Jones: Like a lioness, only with Lesper.

[46:18] Jesse McAnally: Do not mess with her. She's the apex predator.

[46:30] Brianna Jones: At the watering hole, see the girls who work nights have to scatter like mice from a jungle cat.

[46:38] Jesse McAnally: And Dennis is great. She does not have this power.

[46:42] Brianna Jones: People literally cower.

[46:44] Jesse McAnally: Dennis can't do that.

[46:50] Brianna Jones: As they follow in a train. They were victims and power stories.

[46:58] Jesse McAnally: Now they shake the name.

[47:02] Brianna Jones: She's the queen of beasts, and you're in her pride.

[47:06] Jesse McAnally: You have hitched the ride with the apex predator.

[47:10] Brianna Jones: Well, not only that, they reused lines from the out of town tryouts of Mean Girls and replaced the Broadway lines.

[47:18] Jesse McAnally: Ooh.

[47:19] Brianna Jones: And people like. I remember people that were in the tour, the current tour of Mean Girls, seeing the movie and just trying to mouth along the lyrics, and then they get to that point where they're like, oh, oh no. What is this?

[47:35] Jesse McAnally: Um, we haven't brought up Damien, which I think is important for three out of the four of us. Considering for a brief period, we were in the same room with that man.

[47:46] Andrew DeWolf: Do you recall this, Andrew?

[47:48] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. Was he this was he the one that got sick?

[47:50] Andrew DeWolf: Yes. Yes. Yes.

[47:51] Jesse McAnally: That was him.

[47:53] Andrew DeWolf: Um, Jess smelled so bad he had to leave.

[47:56] Jesse McAnally: Yes. We you said Jesse smelled so bad he had to leave and to go get sick off stage.

[48:02] Andrew DeWolf: It was it was kind of weird. It was like mid mid uh opening number.

[48:06] Andrew DeWolf: Mid song.

[48:07] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, it was the opening number, like right in the middle of it, and he just like walks off the stage and everything stops, and it's just like and I was like, Jess, did you fart?

[48:17] Andrew DeWolf: He did not look well.

[48:19] Andrew DeWolf: Like, he got through the opening number, then the at the opening end of the opening, he sits down and you could just tell something was wrong, and he left.

[48:27] Jesse McAnally: This was "A Strange Loop."

[48:28] Andrew DeWolf: Yes. Yes. Yes.

[48:30] Jesse McAnally: Um and at the and we got his understudy, who was wonderful, but watching this, all I can think about was man, we got a whole one scene with him and he gave up.

[48:42] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, because how much were those fucking tickets?

[48:46] Jesse McAnally: You got four tickets near the front row on like as we were walking into the room.

[48:51] Andrew DeWolf: I think we should mention I have the tickets right here.

[48:53] Jesse McAnally: I can't have a second number.

[48:55] Andrew DeWolf: I don't have one.

[48:57] Andrew DeWolf: Um, a hundred and ninety-nine dollars each.

[49:01] Jesse McAnally: Jesus Christ. Yes. You're in the show.

[49:03] Andrew DeWolf: Which biblical was this?

[49:04] Jesse McAnally: "A Strange Loop."

[49:05] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, okay. Just bought them for the wrong day, and I was leaving the next day, so we couldn't even use them.

[49:11] Jesse McAnally: Oh my god.

[49:13] Jesse McAnally: Like, so I just want to put an editor's note in the Broadway con vlog that's like, by the way, Jess did get a refund for the first ticket.

[49:20] Andrew DeWolf: He doesn't mention that in his voiceover, but he did.

[49:23] Jesse McAnally: I did. I did get a refund. But I we so I bought it for the wrong day. Me and Andrew and Miranda and Becca were going to see "Beetlejuice" the next day, so we couldn't even see "A Strange Loop" the next day on the day that I bought the tickets.

[49:37] Jesse McAnally: So I refunded them from today dicks. Thank God I actually bought like the insurance. That was a smart move on me.

[49:43] Andrew DeWolf: And I at State Dix, I paid like $70 per seat, and they were like in the nosebleed balconies.

[49:48] Jesse McAnally: So I went up to the guy, and I was like, any four seats together. And he's like, You want orchestra? I was like, you bet your ass I want orchestra.

[49:57] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, we were so close.

[49:59] Jesse McAnally: This man dropped 800 fucking dollars as we walked into the theater.

[50:04] Andrew DeWolf: And we had a wonderful experience, and "A Strange Loop" never had a bootleg leak and never had a pro shot, and it didn't tour.

[50:11] Jesse McAnally: I have no regrets about that.

[50:15] Brianna Jones: It was damn good.

[50:16] Jesse McAnally: It was very good.

[50:17] Brianna Jones: I would recommend.

[50:18] Jesse McAnally: We got to see Damien get sick on us.

[50:21] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[50:26] Jesse McAnally: The actor who played Damien to vomit on stage and run away.

[50:31] Brianna Jones: He's clearly better now because he was.

[50:33] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, he's doing great.

[50:34] Jesse McAnally: Um, but "Apex Predator," he's great in this song. They're both great in this song. They replaced the lyrics with the lyrics from the out-of-town tryouts, but they give the lines that are supposed to be Katie's to Damien and Janice.

[50:50] Andrew DeWolf: So they don't make sense anymore. Like the original line, it builds up to like Katie discovering, like, oh, she's not safe, and it's like, did I think I'd be protected by my new exotic pet? And she's like, Janice can't do that. And now it's just Damien be like, do not think you'll be protected by your new exotic pet. Not a chance that she suspected you or any reproductive threat. Like, she it's no longer her talking about her own situation. It's these people narrating her situation in the hypothetical. She loses her agency entirely because of her because they cut her from this one song, and now she's less interesting. Like, it's a gravity effect for the rest of her character. It's ridiculous.

[51:33] Brianna Jones: Do you think that they just don't did they didn't think she would be good in that part?

[51:37] Andrew DeWolf: A hundred percent. Yeah. I wonder if it was the studio pushing this actress onto them. Because they were able to have a lot of these people are Broadway royalty. Renee Rapp, while a famous pop star now, got her start on Broadway playing Regina, um, as Coel Jack Jaquil Spivey, do I say that right? I think so. Um, as Damien Broadway, um, I uh Moana as Janice Broadway, like they're very talented people, and then we got this girl, Spider-Man girl.

[52:10] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[52:13] Andrew DeWolf: Um, and I think this song visually works. Like, the thing is, the things that work really work that it frustrates me when they kind of half-ass things, like that actress's performance. I think she's good in other things. I do want to clarify that. I've seen her in other things. She's good. Like, yeah, this is she was just given dog shit to work with, and she didn't have the vocal ability.

[52:37] Brianna Jones: Well, no, she was given a hand to fail.

[52:40] Andrew DeWolf: It's Russell Crowe in Les Mis. You were given this hand, and you try well. I can say that Russell Crowe did try his best. His best was just not good enough. Um, do we want to talk about "Sexy" as well? I know we kind of brought it up earlier. Do we have more to say about that song?

[53:05] Brianna Jones: When you are the hot one, it's a full-time game. Looking like what people wanna see. Disguised as someone else who is not me, but it's still hot. I can be, I wanna be in "Sexy." I can be wanna be in high. Don't like who you are, then hit that costume shop. Rock a new and different sexy look. And drop it to this high and sexy book. I can be, I wanna be in "Sexy." I can be wanna be in high.

[54:05] Andrew DeWolf: I like the uh stage show vocalist better. I'll say that.

[54:14] Brianna Jones: Well, when we got up in the theater, you were convinced that the stage show vocalist was used.

[54:19] Andrew DeWolf: No, I was because and then I went and listened to it in the car, and I was like, oh no, absolutely not. But I don't know if it was like the song was in my head, and I was just like listening to the song in my head, and not—

[54:24] Brianna Jones: You were singing along, and you were convinced that you were the original vocalist.

[54:34] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. Honestly, though. No, but I was convinced because I don't know. It just sounded like there was a lot more like backup vocals in the in the actual uh movie than there was like in the song on Spotify, but I don't know. Probably not. I was probably drunk.

[54:50] Brianna Jones: But no, you're you're I've listened to that album sober multiple times. All the songs have that problem.

[54:57] Andrew DeWolf: Because the movie version is better than the actual soundtrack version.

[55:00] Brianna Jones: Okay, cool. Yeah.

[55:01] Andrew DeWolf: So it wasn't crazy.

[55:03] Brianna Jones: You're not nuts. The soundtrack version is like underproduced in some condies.

[55:08] Andrew DeWolf: That's weird that they wouldn't just use the song that they put into the movie.

[55:12] Brianna Jones: Yeah, because like you'll know there's like this one part in "Revenge Party" where there's a live take of her singing a line that's different than the one in the soundtrack where she sounds like dog shit. And in the movie, she sounds better. So it's like, why don't you—

[55:27] Andrew DeWolf: That's bizarre.

[55:29] Brianna Jones: It's so weird. They do that a lot. Straight like if you listen to the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" soundtrack, there's like live singing that sounds good, and then the studio recording that sounds like dog shit in the album.

[55:39] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, it's wild and confuses me. Um, let's talk about let's talk about "World Burn."

[56:02] Brianna Jones: This is what I for helping. Helping someone kids the help sound for every name is Regina George. This girl is a fugly cow. Hey, Katie, hell you like me. I wanna watch the world burn. I got the gasoline. I don't watch the world burn me. I'm gonna watch the world burning. I got the gasoline. I don't watch the world burn in the world.

[57:11] Andrew DeWolf: The scene is where they're like stylistically, let's go full horror movie, and it works so well. And Renee Rapp's performance, it's so understated, so low energy in the best ways. Like it's it feels very different. It makes me forget how dumb it is that they have to justify having a burn book by saying that their phone stopped working for a week.

[57:37] Brianna Jones: Well, I mean, it does it's what is it? In the original movie in 2004, it would probably make more sense to have a book.

[57:46] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. Whereas now it's just like, why would you not just post this on Twitter or something?

[57:50] Brianna Jones: Yeah, or have like an alt account.

[57:51] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. Yeah, whereas I I like the fact that instead of like making photocopies like she does in the stage show and the original film, she just drops it in the hallway, which is like enough. You know, it will spread if you just put it out there.

[58:06] Brianna Jones: Yeah, also what teenager nowadays knows how to make fucking photocopies.

[58:10] Andrew DeWolf: God, I So I'm thinking about it right now, and are all three of the songs that Regina sings by herself. Do they do this like that like slowdown like effect and then the lights go dark?

[58:25] Brianna Jones: Yes.

[58:25] Andrew DeWolf: I feel like they they do that in the one where she comes in, they do that in the one where she steals the boyfriend.

[58:30] Brianna Jones: Mm-hmm.

[58:31] Andrew DeWolf: I feel like they do that one here that here as well. I can't remember.

[58:34] Brianna Jones: It's a little different because she starts in like red and then it becomes dark when she goes to school.

[58:39] Andrew DeWolf: That's see, that's like a cool effect, and I think that kind of helps with everyone loves this character in this movie in particular. And maybe because part of partly because they did something like that.

[58:52] Brianna Jones: Well, there has now been a new interpretation of this story um by audiences, where if you look at the original film, without question, Lindsay Lohan's Katie is the main character, the protagonist, the one everyone relates to. She is the center of the poster. And the marketing of this film, as well as everything else, frames Regina as the center focus of this story. And people are now saying, no, Regina is the main character of the story. She's the one that matters. And I'm like, I didn't get it until I saw this movie. I'm like, oh, I get it. I get it now.

[59:27] Andrew DeWolf: It still it doesn't really make sense with her as a protagonist, though, and I don't I still don't think she is a protagonist, but I I could see why the marketing would make it look that way.

[59:39] Brianna Jones: I don't know. We don't you definitely don't follow her through the story in any real way, though.

[59:45] Andrew DeWolf: We kinda do. She's the only one that gets like a proper like here's what I plan to do songs. Aside from "Revenge Party" with ensembles. Like she's the only revenge party. She's the only one with like real proper solos.

[1:00:02] Brianna Jones: Yeah, it's it's it's kind of like a they're they're both competing for protagonist spot. Because I feel like they're both there. Um, it's just maybe we side with Regina more because she's more interesting uh of a character.

[1:00:18] Andrew DeWolf: I also think she is she is the best character because she is just outright evil in a cast of people who are only kind of evil. Um, what were you about to say, Brie?

[1:00:27] Brianna Jones: Oh, I also think like I think anybody you put up against kind of Renee Rapp in a way, like they're kind of gonna be overshadowed. Like, she's a star, she's a performer, she's a singer. Like, I don't know. I just feel like anybody like they needed another big personality almost to go up against Regina Renee uh if they were going to not have Regina George be like the main character.

[1:00:56] Andrew DeWolf: Who do you think could have stood up and brought that kind of energy?

[1:01:02] Brianna Jones: That's a good question. I don't know, honestly.

[1:01:07] Andrew DeWolf: Okay. Wild take. Probably may not work in the all time, but I can see it in my head. Zendaya as Katie.

[1:01:21] Brianna Jones: I mean, Zendaya can sing.

[1:01:24] Andrew DeWolf: She can sing, she can perform, she can play the nerd, she can play the popular, she can swap coding like that, and she also has star power and uh quality, and she looks young.

[1:01:37] Brianna Jones: Um, she looks young enough to fit among these people.

[1:01:41] Andrew DeWolf: That's that's the part that tripped me up. I was like young, like who looked young, but uh, I could definitely see Zendaya doing it because I think she can you're right, like she can play the nerdy type, but she can also be very sexy. So and she can sing.

[1:01:56] Brianna Jones: Yeah, like I can't think of anyone else like that. Um, because I don't keep up with the youngins. I can't think of anyone besides like maybe like a Lola Tung, but I don't think she can pull it off either. Um, maybe a Stephanie Hsu. Like, she just got nominated for an Oscar, but maybe she's a little too old.

[1:02:18] Andrew DeWolf: She maybe she's a little too old.

[1:02:20] Brianna Jones: She played a high school or too long and for being more chilled, so yeah. Um, well, I guess I there's only one last song I really want to talk about, and it's just gonna be brief. Um, "I'd Rather Be Me" is a song I hated on stage. I really fucking hated it on stage, and I kinda liked it here.

[1:02:37] Andrew DeWolf: We're supposed to all be ladies and be nurturing and pair. Is that really fair? Boys get to fight, we have to share. Because the way that that turns out, we always understand how to slap someone down with our underhand. So here's my riger. How girls should behave. Sometimes with men to bring you made too brave. So I will not act all innocent. I won't fake apologize. Let's just fight in the makeup. Let's tell these lies. Let's call our dad that's weaving clean the sleeve till it's like new. It's a new life with me. Where I'd rather be me. I'd rather be me than be with you. I'll say no! I'll say knock it off.

[1:03:28] Andrew DeWolf: Note in your rules in your games. And those sick of fans who follow you all remember all their names, and when they drag you down, like they inevitably do.

[1:03:37] Brianna Jones: I will not laugh along them and approve their path is cool, because that's not me. It also ends with a bus crash.

[1:03:44] Andrew DeWolf: I appreciated that we didn't just stop to do the yelling at each other scene from the movie, and then we just kind of ended the song with a bus crash.

[1:03:56] Jesse McAnally: Iconic. I think most songs should end with a bus accident.

[1:04:00] Andrew DeWolf: If I've learned anything today, is you guys love bus crashes.

[1:04:03] Brianna Jones: I love this type of bus crash. Where it's like a silent, the silent killer that's like when the bus isn't on screen, it's completely dead silent, and then the second it enters frame.

[1:04:18] Jesse McAnally: I will say I hate.

[1:04:23] Andrew DeWolf: Oh my god.

[1:04:24] Andrew DeWolf: I do hate that they kind of well, they specifically say it in the beginning of the of the move or of the stage of the song. They're like, it ends with a bus crash.

[1:04:35] Brianna Jones: And getting hit by a bus.

[1:04:38] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[1:04:38] Brianna Jones: Yeah, like I kinda hate that.

[1:04:40] Jesse McAnally: But they ruined it.

[1:04:41] Brianna Jones: They did.

[1:04:42] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, just let us be surprised.

[1:04:45] Brianna Jones: They foreshadowed it too. I mean, you know.

[1:04:48] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[1:04:48] Andrew DeWolf: When Katie almost got hit by the buzz earlier. On that note, what is our overall thoughts on Mean Girls, the movie, the musical, the movie? Um, and our cheese ratings. Um, Andrew, why don't you start us off?

[1:05:04] Andrew DeWolf: Oh right. Um, you know, I wish I remembered the stage show better because then I could like actually say if I preferred this, but I feel like I'd probably preferred this. I I don't I don't remember my all of my opinions about the stage show, but uh this is a little more streamlined, I think, a bit shorter. I'm usually a fan of that.

[1:05:25] Jesse McAnally: I know that.

[1:05:25] Andrew DeWolf: And I definitely like what they did with uh Regina's songs in the staging of everything and the buses.

[1:05:35] Brianna Jones: The buses, excellent.

[1:05:37] Andrew DeWolf: Like shades of final destination. You remember that scene where she like steps off the sidewalk and the bus, the silent killer bus hits her?

[1:05:44] Brianna Jones: Oh.

[1:05:45] Andrew DeWolf: Oh yeah. Masterful, masterful. And I anything that's anywhere close to that, um, I love it. Um I hate every fucking character here, though.

[1:05:55] Andrew DeWolf: They all suck, and I think it's because I am I'm too old for high schoolers. It's it's I'm I'm an old man now. High schoolers are miserable, and I fucking hate them, and I don't want anything to do with them.

[1:06:09] Brianna Jones: Uh they are all pieces of shit who need to grow the fuck up.

[1:06:12] Jesse McAnally: You know what? I'm very grateful that you're saying things like, I'm s I I hate fucking high schoolers, keep them away from me.

[1:06:20] Brianna Jones: Um, because a lot of folks our age are still like, hey, what you doing, girl?

[1:06:24] Andrew DeWolf: Oh my god.

[1:06:25] Brianna Jones: Oh god, absolutely not absolutely not. That's disgusting.

[1:06:28] Andrew DeWolf: It is fucking gross.

[1:06:31] Brianna Jones: Boo.

[1:06:32] Andrew DeWolf: Well, yeah. It's gross for multiple reasons, but one of them is that why would you want to be near high schoolers? Holy fuck. What the fuck's wrong with you?

[1:06:41] Brianna Jones: It's it's why like in high school, you knew that girl that was dating a 27-year-old.

[1:06:48] Andrew DeWolf: I didn't know that person.

[1:06:50] Brianna Jones: But I I didn't sure that they existed.

[1:06:52] Andrew DeWolf: You just did you?

[1:06:53] Brianna Jones: Yeah, because a girl was trying to get her her boyfriend in, and he was they didn't allow people over 21 because they could bring booze in. So he was like 27 and he couldn't go to prom.

[1:07:06] Andrew DeWolf: That's cool.

[1:07:08] Brianna Jones: That is that is fucking high school.

[1:07:14] Andrew DeWolf: Why would you invite him to prom?

[1:07:15] Brianna Jones: What the fell I love him, Daddy.

[1:07:19] Andrew DeWolf: Oh god, someone said daddy.

[1:07:21] Brianna Jones: Uh oh god.

[1:07:23] Andrew DeWolf: He's in a band and it's called Phil Diaper, and I promise you he's gonna be a big star, and you're gonna be really sorry.

[1:07:34] Brianna Jones: Fuck.

[1:07:34] Andrew DeWolf: Is his name fucking Roderick?

[1:07:38] Brianna Jones: We all know Roderick would date high schoolers in his late 20s.

[1:07:41] Andrew DeWolf: Oh my god.

[1:07:42] Brianna Jones: Roderick is is dating a high schooler.

[1:07:44] Andrew DeWolf: I'm pretty sure that's Karen.

[1:07:45] Brianna Jones: Roderick is in high school.

[1:07:47] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, he's not gonna be in high school forever. The wimpy kid has to become a wimpy adult.

[1:07:51] Brianna Jones: I thought that's smart in the books.

[1:07:57] Andrew DeWolf: You know what? Why didn't we put Roderick in this movie? He's the one driving the business.

[1:08:02] Brianna Jones: He maybe he is driving the bus.

[1:08:04] Andrew DeWolf: We don't know.

[1:08:05] Brianna Jones: True.

[1:08:06] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, Andrew, through cheese rating.

[1:08:09] Andrew DeWolf: I have to give a cheese rating.

[1:08:10] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[1:08:11] Andrew DeWolf: Uh I'm gonna give it uh high school cafeteria cheese pizza.

[1:08:14] Brianna Jones: Ooh, gross.

[1:08:15] Andrew DeWolf: You know, the ones that's like a little bit too like too hard, like if they didn't thaw it properly or something.

[1:08:20] Brianna Jones: I don't even know.

[1:08:21] Andrew DeWolf: It's gonna make me throw up.

[1:08:25] Brianna Jones: God, yeah, high school sucks.

[1:08:27] Brianna Jones: Bree, you're next.

[1:08:29] Brianna Jones: Okay. Um, I'm with Andrew. I don't necessarily remember the stage show very well. Um, it was so long there.

[1:08:38] Brianna Jones: And two, I don't know if it was that good.

[1:08:41] Andrew DeWolf: Um you did not like it.

[1:08:44] Brianna Jones: Then I didn't.

[1:08:46] Brianna Jones: That's why we can't remember it.

[1:08:47] Andrew DeWolf: That's why, yeah, exactly. If I don't like something out of the brain, don't keep negative thoughts.

[1:08:53] Brianna Jones: You don't just harp on it for years and make it your entire brand.

[1:08:57] Andrew DeWolf: You don't commit everything to memory when you hate it.

[1:09:00] Brianna Jones: Yeah. Nope. Um, but I say go see Mean Girls. It's fun. The songs are good. Um, you'll laugh, you know. It's it's good. It's it's fine, you know?

[1:09:13] Brianna Jones: I I give it a thumbs up and a pink prosecco cheese.

[1:09:19] Jesse McAnally: That that's also a really good rating. Um, Liz, how about you?

[1:09:23] Liz Eston: Uh the ironic thing is I've actually seen this show live in my lifetime, and I still don't remember it.

[1:09:31] Liz Eston: Oh my god. I've seen it. I saw it on Broadway in 2019.

[1:09:35] Brianna Jones: We all have memory loss exclusive.

[1:09:45] Liz Eston: Actual break and not fake break. An actual real life break they weren't supposed to do.

[1:09:50] Liz Eston: It was a dramatic ass scene, and they still broke.

[1:09:54] Brianna Jones: See, that's fine. I like those.

[1:09:56] Liz Eston: That's that's it was a fun moment. That's all I remember.

[1:09:58] Liz Eston: Uh I like the movie. It's pretty good. I think the music's really well made, and Renee rap is solid.

[1:10:04] Liz Eston: I think Katie suffers a lot because of just little things they did. Also, cutting where do you belong is bullshit.

[1:10:12] Brianna Jones: I know we didn't mention that, but why do they cut where do you belong? It needs to be.

[1:10:15] Liz Eston: No, I disagree. Pacing wise, we'll have slowed down that opening.

[1:10:19] Brianna Jones: I know, but like even like a quarter of it, just like anything. Come on.

[1:10:24] Liz Eston: Tina Faye almost sings it.

[1:10:26] Brianna Jones: Um during the assembly.

[1:10:28] Liz Eston: I know. Um, if you look at Renee's rat face during that scene, she makes a really funny fucking expression.

[1:10:34] Liz Eston: Uh, but uh I liked it, I enjoyed it. It's a fun time.

[1:10:38] Liz Eston: Uh I didn't hate it as much as I thought. So I'm gonna give it a nice cafeteria cheeseburger.

[1:10:44] Liz Eston: It's like a little cold, but it's enjoyable enough.

[1:10:48] Brianna Jones: None of you pick cheese fries, because you know, Regina literally eats cheese fries in the movie.

[1:10:52] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[1:10:52] Liz Eston: I thought about it.

[1:10:53] Liz Eston: I generally forgot about the cheese fries thing.

[1:10:56] Brianna Jones: Well, now you can take it.

[1:10:58] Andrew DeWolf: No guys, the the musicals musicals with cheese uh studio is built with a lead foundation, so uh definitely not affecting our brains either.

[1:11:09] Jesse McAnally: I love the idea that you're making it seem like we have a studio.

[1:11:12] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know why that tickles me so much.

[1:11:14] Jesse McAnally: We're all in the same room, I promise.

[1:11:16] Andrew DeWolf: We guys, we are always in the same room.

[1:11:19] Andrew DeWolf: Me and Andrew sleep in the same bed every night.

[1:11:23] Brianna Jones: I got to sleep in a different room.

[1:11:25] Andrew DeWolf: That they let me do that.

[1:11:26] Brianna Jones: Yeah, and right now Bree's having the sleepover.

[1:11:29] Andrew DeWolf: We're gonna have a cuddle puddle tonight. It's gonna be a good time.

[1:11:32] Brianna Jones: They kept me locked up for like two and a half years that I was on here, guys.

[1:11:35] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, and then they laugh.

[1:11:36] Brianna Jones: That's me.

[1:11:37] Andrew DeWolf: We fed her lead paint chips.

[1:11:39] Brianna Jones: If you forget mean girls, and they're like, alright, go in, all right. Now that you know you're here, go in Breeze Cage.

[1:11:44] Andrew DeWolf: I'm like, okay.

[1:11:46] Brianna Jones: Change the newspapers that go in.

[1:11:49] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[1:11:50] Brianna Jones: Um Brie leaves a note, help.

[1:11:54] Andrew DeWolf: My cheese rating is help.

[1:11:57] Brianna Jones: Cheese rating is help.

[1:12:00] Jesse McAnally: Um, so I'm oh god. You know what?

[1:12:05] Jesse McAnally: God damn it, Jess.

[1:12:09] Andrew DeWolf: Oh no, he said his own name.

[1:12:11] Jesse McAnally: I did. I did. So I was just gonna go, because you guys said I should pick cheese fries, and I look back at what I put for the original Mean Girls. And I my my my cheese rating is whatever, I'm getting cheese fries.

[1:12:24] Andrew DeWolf: So I guess I have to stick by that.

[1:12:26] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[1:12:28] Jesse McAnally: So you have the same opinion on on this as you do on the stage show?

[1:12:32] Andrew DeWolf: Um I I I guess I do.

[1:12:34] Andrew DeWolf: Andrew did not um gave it a schazimorza cheese. And Brie, do you remember what your cheese rating was?

[1:12:42] Brianna Jones: Hell no.

[1:12:43] Andrew DeWolf: It was porn parody of cheeses.

[1:12:46] Jesse McAnally: Alright.

[1:12:47] Brianna Jones: What?

[1:12:48] Andrew DeWolf: That doesn't even make sense.

[1:12:50] Brianna Jones: I'm sure it made sense at the cheese.

[1:12:52] Andrew DeWolf: In context, it made sense.

[1:12:53] Brianna Jones: Yeah.

[1:12:56] Jesse McAnally: Um, I like this movie a lot. I wonder if I am a little adjusted to it based on expectations.

[1:13:04] Jesse McAnally: I expected it to be dog shit. It was not dog shit, so I was like, oh, pretty good.

[1:13:11] Jesse McAnally: It was alright. So that's my cheese rating and my thoughts. Um Brie, thank you for joining us again.

[1:13:19] Jesse McAnally: I know we like doing the bit of like you never left, but it is truly a joy to spend time with you. And seeing this movie with you and Jake was probably one of the highlights of the last couple of weeks for me, and I I truly love spending time with you, and I hope I get to do it again sometime.

[1:13:32] Brianna Jones: Let's go see another musical.

[1:13:35] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, um, is there any other musicals coming out this year?

[1:13:39] Brianna Jones: Wicked.

[1:13:40] Jesse McAnally: Oh god.

[1:13:42] Jesse McAnally: Thank you guys for listening. Please follow us on iTunes and Spotify at Musical So Cheese and leave us a little review there.

[1:13:47] Jesse McAnally: Answer whatever questions it posts to you. You know what? Just answer whatever. What's your cheese rating fuckers?

[1:13:52] Andrew DeWolf: Um follow us on Twitter at Cheesy Musicals, around Patreon and Me Schools of Cheese and Scramby Schools of Cheese, YouTube HMU Schoolsweet, Patreon only Podcast, Patreon Cheese.

[1:13:59] Jesse McAnally: Me and Liz are currently covering Has Been Hotel.

[1:14:02] Liz Eston: I think it kind of blows so far.

[1:14:04] Andrew DeWolf: I like it!

[1:14:06] Jesse McAnally: Whatever.

[1:14:07] Liz Eston: Enjoy your wrong opinions, Liz.

[1:14:11] Andrew DeWolf: We'll argue about it more.

[1:14:13] Jesse McAnally: Email us at musical theater lives at gmail.com. Our keeper of the cheese is Juliet Antonio.

[1:14:18] Andrew DeWolf: This show is edited by Andrew DeWolf, and Bree, I think he's doing a pretty good job.

[1:14:22] Brianna Jones: He's made it much more memey, and it's a lot of fun.

[1:14:29] Andrew DeWolf: Every time we bring up Doug Walker, he plays the nostalgia critic theme.

[1:14:32] Jesse McAnally: It's great.

[1:14:33] Andrew DeWolf: Oh my god.

[1:14:37] Jesse McAnally: Um, thank you to the Broadway Podcast Network for having us on the platform and for not kicking us off for what are you doing, stepmommy?

[1:14:45] Brianna Jones: Renee Rap.

[1:14:46] Andrew DeWolf: Oh my god.

[1:14:47] Brianna Jones: Step on me, stepmommy Rene Rah.

[1:14:51] Andrew DeWolf: She's gonna file a restraining order against us now.

[1:14:54] Brianna Jones: Yeah, no, not against us, against me.

[1:14:58] Brianna Jones: She knows who's to blame here.

[1:14:59] Jesse McAnally: Um anything else we have left to say. Bree, anything you have to promote or anything like that?

[1:15:04] Brianna Jones: You got an album coming out?

[1:15:06] Brianna Jones: No, I don't have an album coming out, but I love you all, and thank you so much for having me.

[1:15:10] Jesse McAnally: You are welcome back anytime, and this was a good good good time. Um, especially after Greece 2.

[1:15:20] Brianna Jones: How do you live in the cage?

[1:15:22] Brianna Jones: Uh you know, you just have to um uh photosynthesize, you know, hair that's my problem.

[1:15:33] Andrew DeWolf: I need to photosynthesis.

[1:15:35] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[1:15:36] Andrew DeWolf: Get back in the cage, you two ha ha back in there.

[1:15:41] Jesse McAnally: We'll see you next time on musicals with cheese.

[1:15:56] Jesse McAnally: I'm talking. I expect to run the world in shoes I cannot walk in. I can be who I wanna be in said