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#4: "Twisted"

Jess & Andrew talk about Starkid's Twisted this week! Links: Watch Twisted Here!! Listen to more on Itunes. Social Media: Musicals with Cheese on Twitter. Jess on Twitter. Andrew on Twitter. Musicals Theatre Lives on Instagram. Jess on Instagram... Read More

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35 mins
9/20/18

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Jess & Andrew talk about Starkid's Twisted this week!

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[0:02] Jess: Hello and welcome to Musicals with Cheese.

[0:05] Andrew: I'm Jess, and I am joined as always by Andrew.

[0:09] Andrew: Hello, all you wonderful people.

[0:12] Jess: Today's musical that we're talking about is actually an internet musical, which is something that has grown in popularity over the last ten years, created by the people from Starkid, which originated in the University of Michigan.

[0:25] Andrew: Yay, Michigan.

[0:27] Jess: And what is that musical, Andrew?

[0:29] Andrew: Oh, about uh three months ago we decided to watch Twisted, and now we're finally doing it.

[0:34] Andrew: It's it it was all Jess's fault, so if you want to blame anyone, it was not me.

[0:38] Jess: I was constantly pushing trying to get this out.

[0:40] Andrew: Jess was just he was slow on it.

[0:43] Jess: Yeah.

[0:43] Andrew: Either way.

[0:44] Andrew: This is uh this is the first one where I've actually seen it already before we decided to do the episode.

[0:49] Jess: Yes, this is we've seen this three times now.

[0:52] Andrew: I've seen I've seen it roughly between six and ten times.

[0:56] Jess: It is a long show.

[0:57] Andrew: It is like three hours.

[1:00] Jess: Six and ten times, holy f yeah, that's it's a good thing that just throw on in the background.

[1:07] Andrew: I suppose.

[1:08] Jess: Yeah.

[1:09] Andrew: Like you don't always have to pay attention to it, but when you do pick up on it, it's like, ah, that's that's nice.

[1:14] Jess: I get to watch this.

[1:16] Andrew: Yeah, I should chop your ear off saying something like that.

[1:19] Jess: Uh because you don't like my face.

[1:21] Andrew: Uh the show was performed July 4th, 2013 at the Greenhouse Theater Center in Chicago.

[1:30] Jess: Um, it was written by AJ Holmes with a book by Matt Lang, Nick Lang, and Eric Conn Gale, who are all members of the production team Starkid.

[1:40] Andrew: Um, the cast involves the Starkid regulars of Dylan Saunders, um Rachel Soglin, um Jeff Blim, uh Meredith Stipen, Joe Walker, Nick Gage, Jim Po Pavolo, Jamie Lynn Beatty, Lauren Lopez, Denise Donovan, Robert, and Man Neon, and Alex Paul.

[1:58] Jess: All all the usuals.

[2:00] Andrew: Um it's a big show.

[2:04] Jess: It is, but like considering all the characters that you have and that that's the whole list of the cast.

[2:13] Andrew: They have a lot of people playing multiple parts.

[2:15] Jess: Yeah, it reminds me a lot of the Monty Python way of doing it.

[2:20] Andrew: Men and women, gender is kind of subjective in this world.

[2:24] Jess: Kinda like a Monty Python kind of show anyway.

[2:28] Andrew: It is.

[2:28] Jess: Um, it's a little more structured.

[2:30] Jess: I think this is easily their best show.

[2:33] Jess: Um, I think it's the one where they finally hit their stride.

[2:37] Jess: Um, a lot of people love their Harry Potter stuff.

[2:40] Andrew: Um, but I feel like the fandom behind that has made me appreciate it less, as well as it's just technical failings.

[2:49] Jess: I think this is where the humor, the technical, and the acting all came together in the best form.

[2:55] Jess: Either way, Twisted is a parody of Disney films, specifically Aladdin, but doing the villain reversal that you see as from Wicked, and that's why it's called Twisted, um, where it tells Jafar's point of view of the story as opposed to Aladdin's.

[3:13] Andrew: Yeah.

[3:15] Andrew: You won't be respond to that.

[3:18] Jess: Um Yeah.

[3:22] Jess: I I think it's great, and it ruined Aladdin for me.

[3:26] Andrew: I can't watch Aladdin anymore.

[3:30] Jess: Um, it kind of changes the way you view it a bit, but not particularly in a negative way.

[3:36] Jess: Um you just kinda wish now I find myself when I'm watching Aladdin, I just kinda wish I was watching Twisted instead, if that makes sense.

[3:42] Andrew: Can we can we talk about Aladdin for a little bit?

[3:45] Jess: Let's talk about Aladdin.

[3:46] Andrew: Um yeah, Aladdin was um a mid-90s Disney film.

[3:51] Andrew: Um and the last um lyrical work of Howard Ashman.

[3:56] Jess: That's all I gotta say about Aladdin.

[3:58] Andrew: What do you have to say?

[3:59] Jess: Well, let's uh let's just talk about like I used to like Aladdin.

[4:03] Jess: I thought it was pretty fun.

[4:04] Andrew: But I can't watch it anymore because of this fucking musical.

[4:09] Andrew: Um I have not tried to watch it since then, since I've seen this, because Aladdin was never my favorite Disney film.

[4:15] Andrew: I'm not a fan of most Disney films, sadly enough.

[4:18] Andrew: Um I'm not like a huge fan or anything, uh and Aladdin was definitely not my favorite, but like I used to like it, and then I can't watch it now.

[4:28] Andrew: It's it's like now I just see uh Aladdin as as a douchebag.

[4:34] Andrew: Just like, oh shit, yeah, right.

[4:39] Jess: Um yeah, um I think that the references they make in this are very interesting, and it is fun to imagine like the twisted world going on at the same time and as the Aladdin film, even though it doesn't quite make sense.

[4:52] Andrew: But it's I'm surprised you haven't tried to watch Aladdin, 'cause if it's it's fun to watch it and see all the stuff that they're referencing.

[4:58] Jess: Because like the Chase scene, they actually mention things that happen in the Aladdin.

[5:03] Andrew: Specifically, like the bed of nails and falling in the uh manure.

[5:08] Jess: Well that's that's stuff I just remember from childhood.

[5:11] Andrew: Like that's really you remembered all that stuff?

[5:14] Jess: Yeah, I did not.

[5:16] Andrew: I remember the fire eaters and all this and like all that.

[5:19] Andrew: Um, because that was the only fun thing for a kid in the first half of Aladdin.

[5:25] Jess: And like after that scene it gets boring until like Robert Williams jumps in.

[5:31] Andrew: And then the movie, the whole movie's just Rob and Williams stand-up.

[5:35] Jess: I mean, where's the lie?

[5:37] Andrew: But at least it's fun for a kid.

[5:41] Jess: It's true though.

[5:43] Andrew: Um Aladdin, um, I didn't have any connection with it, but I think I have a deeper appreciation for it now that I've seen Twisted, in all honesty.

[5:51] Jess: But I would rather watch Twisted on any given day.

[5:54] Andrew: Uh cheese rating of Aladdin.

[5:57] Jess: Um I don't give those.

[6:01] Andrew: Okay, okay, I'll give one.

[6:02] Andrew: Uh you know.

[6:05] Andrew: Swiss.

[6:06] Andrew: Fuck it, I don't know.

[6:09] Andrew: At this point I'm just giving out I'm just making stuff up with the cheese.

[6:13] Jess: I I can't.

[6:14] Jess: There's no there's no logic.

[6:15] Andrew: You could have used goat cheese or something like that.

[6:17] Jess: Oh, that would have been good.

[6:19] Jess: This is one of those few things that me and Andrew actively enjoy and is very well available to you right now if you probably just click the suggestions.

[6:28] Jess: So maybe you should probably watch it.

[6:31] Andrew: We both recommend it highly before you keep on watching us.

[6:36] Jess: Yeah, um.

[6:37] Jess: I mean, we're probably gonna get into spoilers at some point, and uh I think it's just better if you just watch it, because it is really good.

[6:43] Andrew: And you could just watch it on YouTube, you don't have to buy tickets or anything like that.

[6:46] Jess: And there's like some like joke twists, which I think, unlike actual plot twists, are actually ruined when you know the punchline.

[6:54] Jess: And I wouldn't want to accidentally like reveal those to you.

[6:59] Andrew: Yeah, so I would say at this point, um it's it's already recommended by both of us.

[7:05] Jess: Yeah.

[7:05] Andrew: But uh let's not keep on pretending that the people who watch my stupid show haven't already watched this.

[7:11] Jess: It's true.

[7:12] Andrew: If you're watching this, you probably have already seen this.

[7:14] Jess: You probably came to this looking for a twisted, and then you're like, oh I clicked the wrong thing.

[7:18] Andrew: Yes, shit.

[7:19] Jess: You're dumb puff.

[7:21] Andrew: Finally make a difference.

[7:24] Jess: And all the grateful citizens will say to me.

[7:30] Andrew: What do you think of the opening over Dream of Little Hot Storm?

[7:35] Jess: It's uh I was surprised that they didn't like parody like the opening to Aladdin with like Arabian Knights more, but they kind of just parody Beauty and the Beast more like in the.

[7:48] Andrew: Um it sets a tone perfectly, like the first like words outside of a character that isn't our main is fuck you.

[7:56] Jess: Fuck you, Jafar.

[8:01] Andrew: Um and the best part is like Dylan Saunders who plays um Jafar takes it in stride in a way that's so comedically.

[8:12] Jess: He's not even shocked.

[8:14] Andrew: He still has a He has the smile on his face as everyone's like saying.

[8:19] Jess: He just wants his book.

[8:21] Andrew: He just wants to read R Wicked.

[8:25] Jess: Um yeah, and the ensemble does a great job, and I can imagine like them having to change costumes and like play these things.

[8:35] Andrew: Um like every one of the people in the ensemble at the beginning comes back as another character and you almost don't even notice.

[8:45] Jess: Yeah, it's it there's like several different sets of characters in the one song, all played by the same people.

[8:54] Andrew: Um It's a very funny song, I don't know.

[8:58] Jess: Uh it does it sort of sets the tone in a way.

[9:02] Andrew: It sets a tone and it sets a location and it sets up that it's not just Aladdin that they're tackling.

[9:09] Jess: Yeah.

[9:10] Andrew: They definitely could have done the Aladdin opening, and it probably would have been really good, but I think it works.

[9:10] Jess: I think it works too.

[9:18] Andrew: Um it sets up the character and an actual story, which I appreciate too.

[9:22] Jess: The fact that they didn't they s made their own story.

[9:26] Jess: Like they made it important to actually have a story and not just a bunch of jokes.

[9:29] Andrew: So the story is one of the better parts of the uh That's what makes it stand out from the rest of their stuff.

[9:35] Jess: Yeah, it's not it's not literally just like a comedy act, like haha, Disney movies are stupid, right?

[9:41] Andrew: It has a surprising amount of sentimentality to it.

[9:43] Jess: Like it tricks you, like they lure you in with the comedy, but then they gut punch you with the drama.

[9:51] Andrew: They only give you money if you work.

[9:53] Jess: Thanks, but no thanks.

[9:55] Andrew: But ma'am, I'll keep stealing all I can instead of being a fascist yumppy jerk yppy.

[10:05] Jess: Slack The next song is I Steal Everything, performed by Aladdin.

[10:13] Andrew: It's it's I mean it they basically took it right from the original movie.

[10:16] Jess: I mean.

[10:17] Andrew: Yeah, I I'd only steal what I can't afford, which is everything.

[10:22] Jess: It's liter he says that in the movie.

[10:25] Andrew: Um and Jeff Blim really sells this song, like um he has the comedic timing where he's still like a very likable asshole.

[10:36] Jess: Like we're not even like totally against him yet.

[10:41] Andrew: Despite him being he was like a lovable douchebag, like a David Spade or something.

[10:47] Jess: In this song, yeah, later in the movie.

[10:48] Andrew: He gets worse.

[10:51] Andrew: But like at first you're like, oh that's kind of funny.

[10:55] Jess: But he's he's kind of playing the actual Aladdin in a way.

[10:59] Andrew: Uh for like the first part of it.

[11:02] Andrew: I mean, he's basically singing the the same message as what's in the actual movie.

[11:09] Andrew: Like, I steal everything.

[11:12] Andrew: I knock up women then run away.

[11:16] Jess: I mean, it's not in the Disney movie, but we can assume.

[11:20] Andrew: You probably probably did.

[11:22] Andrew: And they take m direct lines like getting in trouble a little early, you're not only in trouble if you get caught.

[11:30] Jess: Busted.

[11:34] Andrew: Uh uh this is probably one of the better like comedic songs in this, I'd I say.

[11:41] Andrew: I just love the, uh, the ending line gets me every time, the, uh, well he'll steal your heart.

[11:47] Jess: I want to live on the moon and eat it in a pie, and keep it as a pet and wear it like a gemstone in my hair.

[11:57] Andrew: And someday soon. Speaking of stealing your heart, then we get to, um, our lead on Jafar's character, um, the princess, who is just known as Princess.

[12:11] Jess: Um, and she has this song called "Everything and More." Um, it's okay. I mean, I get what they're doing. They're, it's a, it's a parody of every Disney princess is like they already are royalty and they have so much money and shit, and they're just like, well, they're making fun of the vagueness of it, like, and how they say, like, I just want more, and then she gets into the specifics of the more she wants.

[12:36] Andrew: She wants to live on the moon, she wants to eat the moon while living on it, and like it's funny, but it's like, it's kinda bland.

[12:45] Jess: It didn't hit me as much, you know? Definitely just skip that part.

[12:51] Andrew: It's very long. Like, if it was a little shorter, I think I'd be a little more kind to it.

[12:56] Jess: Yeah.

[12:56] Andrew: But this is like nitpicky.

[12:58] Jess: No, this part of it, it's terrible.

[13:00] Andrew: Actually skip it. Just saying.

[13:04] Jess: I'm joking. It's a joke. Guys, come on. Don't skip it.

[13:09] Andrew: Oh yeah, don't skip it. Don't skip any of this. They, a lot of people worked hard on this, but we're allowed to continue, I guess.

[13:15] Jess: For life's a two-way street. Keep that in mind.

[13:22] Andrew: You meet.

[13:24] Jess: Follow the golden rule.

[13:26] Andrew: The golden rule isn't hard to do.

[13:28] Jess: It's easy. Always treat others like season.

[13:35] Andrew: The golden rule for yellow.

[13:38] Jess: The golden rule will do with all yellow.

[13:41] Andrew: The golden rule will do with all you.

[13:43] Jess: It leads into Jafar's, um, I am song, which is "Follow the Golden Rule."

[13:49] Andrew: He's, he's literally Jesus.

[13:51] Jess: He is.

[13:52] Andrew: This is a Christ figure story. Jafar is Jesus.

[13:55] Jess: I mean, it kind of is actually.

[13:58] Andrew: I mean, yeah, I was like baffled for a second when you said it, and now I'm like, ah, alright, I see where you get it.

[14:05] Jess: The golden rule, and then, I mean, spoilers, but he basically sacrifices himself at the end.

[14:12] Andrew: Yes, I'm throwing it out there. This is, this is a Christ, he's, he's, he's Jesus.

[14:17] Jess: Cram codes spell right up your ass, we got twisted for our Jesus metaphors. Bring it out, come on.

[14:22] Andrew: But it is immediately subverted when we have, um, the old vizier's, um, version of Golden Rule, which is "Follow the Gold, comma, end rule." Very clever, I like the wordplay, it works very well, and I love Joe Walker's like really intense delivery of it.

[14:46] Jess: And inspires him to say, I want to know your story, I want to know your past, I want to know your future too, fill my days and nights with the tale of you. I want to know your story, just don't make the story laugh. Then Jafar and Sherizad, he meets this lady named Sherizad, um, and they sing a song called "A Thousand and One Nights" and they fall in love and immediately get married.

[15:27] Andrew: However, after the song ends, um, he is taken to the Sultan and he immediately demands Sherizad as his wife, and they are separated. So "A Thousand and One Nights" is actually probably my second favorite song in the whole thing. It's really, it really is an effective love song.

[15:48] Jess: It really is.

[15:49] Andrew: Unironically, it is very emotionally resonant.

[15:52] Jess: And it comes up a lot, like it is a recurring leitmotif within the show.

[15:58] Andrew: And I really like that song. I think that's probably one of the best in it.

[16:04] Jess: Yeah, it's very effective, and I think that both, um, Meredith Stepen and Dylan Saunders have very good chemistry.

[16:13] Andrew: Surprisingly.

[16:14] Jess: I think if, uh, if this little like subplot wasn't in the show, it would be a lot worse.

[16:19] Andrew: It'd be a lot weaker.

[16:21] Jess: It would be a series of jokes, but if you don't have that emotional core to it, like you're kind of missing out.

[16:30] Andrew: Yeah, it would just be jokes and jokes, and it's like, haha, Aladdin. Remember that?

[16:38] Jess: But the fact that we have that and it makes the jokes, um, you appreciate them a bit more, but the emotional resonance helps a lot in keeping you watching.

[16:48] Andrew: Absolutely.

[16:50] Jess: Which is why I think Jafar's follow-up, "If I Believed," where we're back in the present, and he's just like, I want to find this so I can get my wife back.

[17:00] Andrew: He wants to save the kingdom.

[17:01] Jess: And it's like not selfish. He wants to save the kingdom. He wants to get the lamp and get the djinn and help him out.

[17:10] Andrew: Yeah, he doesn't even mention bringing his wife back in that song.

[17:14] Jess: You're putting, you're putting things into, he's, he's Jesus.

[17:18] Andrew: He's not selfish.

[17:21] Jess: He's got a beard just like Jesus.

[17:23] Andrew: It's a little twisty.

[17:26] Jess: A little twisted.

[17:28] Andrew: Um, but meanwhile, while Jafar was having his flashback, Aladdin meets up with the princess, and he tells his sad sad facts.

[17:38] Jess: Pretty song for myself up by my bootstraps and starting all I could still there's no to love me now.

[17:52] Andrew: But I'll make it through somehow.

[17:56] Jess: Despite being so sadly and crushingly alone.

[18:06] Andrew: Yeah, really, that one kind of goes on a little long for me.

[18:10] Jess: There's basically one joke, and the joke is right away pretty much.

[18:14] Andrew: And they just tell the joke over and over.

[18:18] Jess: It's funny.

[18:19] Andrew: It's funny that he's like played it up like it's actually tragic or something.

[18:23] Jess: And the princess is like falling for it.

[18:26] Andrew: But, you know.

[18:31] Jess: Yeah.

[18:32] Andrew: Let's move on from that.

[18:34] Jess: That's one of the weaker songs, I agree.

[18:37] Andrew: I mean, the joke's funny at first, but like on repeat watches, I don't think I sit through it very much.

[18:49] Jess: Will we can ride around game?

[18:59] Andrew: Meaning everything in that healthy and style everything tonight.

[19:14] Jess: Um, then we got the act one closer, the quadrillette, um, the happy ending, one day more style, um, between Jafar, the Princess, Aladdin, and the ensemble, where they all describe how they want their happy ending.

[19:26] Andrew: Jafar wants to save the kingdom, the princess, um, wants Aladdin, and Aladdin wants to be a rich dude.

[19:34] Jess: Because stealing is so much easier when you already got tons of gold.

[19:37] Andrew: He wants to be a rich dude, and he wants to fuck the princess.

[19:41] Jess: Yes.

[19:43] Andrew: Because you know what? He can't get her out of his head until he gets the nut out.

[19:52] Jess: He will get his nut out.

[19:54] Andrew: His eternal nut out.

[19:57] Jess: That's such a great way.

[20:01] Andrew: And Dylan Sanders like phased her.

[20:04] Jess: Your eternal nut out.

[20:07] Andrew: Like he's saying something like really poignant, but seriously, go watch this.

[20:14] Jess: This whole video's just gonna be us laughing at the chill.

[20:22] Andrew: Act two starts with a subplot, um, that we didn't even bring up, and that involves Prince Ahmed of the Kingdom of Pixar.

[20:32] Jess: Um, the princess set her tiger on him, and everyone considers him a tiger fucker.

[20:41] Andrew: And that's why he sings a song "No One Remembers Achmed."

[20:45] Jess: Nevermore will they mock you on that fucking tiger.

[20:54] Andrew: It will stay over.

[21:07] Jess: I really appreciate the song "No One Remembers Ahmed," um, especially like his relationship with his like serfs and like his people.

[21:14] Andrew: Like the easy joke would be like, oh, they're laughing at him because they think he fucked a tiger.

[21:18] Jess: But no, they are very respectful of him, but they also think that he fucked a tiger.

[21:22] Andrew: They're like, if you want to fuck a tiger, we'll get you that tiger to fuck.

[21:26] Jess: I don't, they respect him more because he did that.

[21:28] Andrew: So I'm pretty sure it's the point of the song.

[21:30] Jess: Like, which is why it's hilarious.

[21:33] Andrew: Like the ease, they didn't go for the easy joke, they went for the more like the not obvious joke.

[21:39] Jess: Yeah, the obvious joke would be like, haha.

[21:42] Andrew: You are, you stupid, you fucked a tiger.

[21:45] Jess: But here it's like, no, you are amazing because you fucked a tiger, and we will make sure you can fuck a tiger again.

[21:51] Andrew: We'll get you your tiger.

[21:56] Jess: And they call him tiger fucker, but not as like an angry term, but like, yes, this is our tiger fucker.

[22:03] Andrew: Our king.

[22:06] Jess: I feel comfortable.

[22:10] Andrew: I don't know why or how, but here and now I'm tempted to take off my clothes with you!

[22:19] Jess: I wanna take off my clothes with you.

[22:22] Andrew: I feel free as a bird with no cage and no owner.

[22:30] Jess: Look, that priest has a boner.

[22:33] Andrew: No, I think that's just his knees.

[22:36] Jess: Take off your clothes, the universe is telling you.

[22:44] Andrew: Each sign is planted there with loving care.

[22:49] Jess: Accept the cosmic dare.

[22:51] Andrew: And take off your clothes, Princess.

[22:54] Jess: Take off your face!

[23:02] Andrew: Moving on to Aladdin the princess's song, he takes her on a magic carpet ride.

[23:09] Jess: And it's called "Take Off Your Clothes."

[23:11] Andrew: As a reference to a subliminal message, allegedly that Christian moms heard in the Aladdin VHS tape, where he's like good tiger, but they heard take good teenagers take off their clothes.

[23:24] Jess: What?

[23:25] Andrew: Did you not know that?

[23:26] Jess: I didn't I know they referenced the people say that you could see sex in the stars.

[23:31] Andrew: Yeah, sex in the stars, um, that priest has a boner.

[23:35] Jess: Like all the Disney subliminal messages, but one of the big ones was Aladdin allegedly saying, take off your clothes, like in the Aladdin VHS tape.

[23:44] Andrew: Yeah, even though I'm pretty certain most of those subliminal messages are not really.

[23:50] Jess: There's only one, and that was in the Rescuers, where there is legit a naked woman back there.

[23:55] Andrew: Well, there's also uh uh Roger Rabbit, too, right?

[24:00] Jess: But they they edited that out.

[24:01] Andrew: I mean they that was never in it, then they added it in as a joke to like one Blu-ray and it got out, and yeah.

[24:09] Jess: And then they took it out again.

[24:11] Andrew: Subliminal messages aren't real.

[24:13] Jess: No, even if they were, it's not gonna trick you into like fucking anything that you're not supposed to.

[24:20] Andrew: I don't know.

[24:20] Jess: It it almost worked.

[24:22] Andrew: Yeah, she almost took off her clothes.

[24:28] Jess: Um, what do you think of this song?

[24:31] Andrew: Yeah.

[24:33] Jess: Oh.

[24:35] Andrew: It's funny and there's a lot of references in it, but I actually like it a lot. I think mostly because I lost my shit the first watch when the stars like said fuck each other. Like that like when something does like something to the tenth degree that I don't even like know like expect and I laugh really hard, I appreciate it more. I think it I don't listen to it when it comes down on my iPhone or anything, but like I I will watch all of it when it's like playing and enjoy it. It's it's yeah, it's really good.

[25:10] Jess: Um, I'll never be a hero.

[25:17] Andrew: All the cities and door.

[25:20] Jess: But if I hide to save my life, what has my life been for?

[25:20] Andrew: What has my life been for?

[25:35] Jess: But I will never swerve. I'll give them all the unsong and I hero they deserve.

[25:43] Andrew: I've nothing left to lose, so the only path to choose is twist.

[25:51] Jess: The people scorned me. Who cares if no one will ever mourn me? Let them fairy aside on the story, they'll never learn.

[26:11] Andrew: It's my death. But it is followed by one of my favorite songs, possibly in it's probably my top 100 favorite musical songs, and it's called Twisted. And it's the title song where Jafar is left in the position where he, if he does something the wrong. If he does a thing, it'll make him look bad, but will save everyone. But if he doesn't, it'll hurt everyone. And he's like, man, people are gonna call me a bad person for this. Like it's gonna look really bad. Let's be real. When all the when all the other Disney villains are that's the whole point. All the other Disney villains tell their twisted story where they were really the good guy. Basically.

[26:57] Jess: Oh, contraire.

[27:00] Andrew: Um, Scar wanted to end segregation. Um, Gaston just loved Belle for her personality. Um, Ursula was kicked out of her kingdom because Triton hated um women. Um, Captain Hook just wanted to teach the boy responsibility. You know, honestly, the the Captain Hook one I think is is probably the most accurate.

[27:34] Jess: He's the greatest power no matter where I be not will get.

[27:46] Andrew: Um the next song, and it's the um penultimate song, The Power in Me between the princess and Jafar. So Jafar has to take the place of the genie to grant everyone what they need to be granted. And this is their goodbye song. And this is where the Jafar realizes oh, oh yeah, the Sultan doesn't have a penis, so you're my daughter. I'm not sure how he didn't realize that earlier.

[28:13] Jess: Uh maybe you just don't remember he has an inverted penis.

[28:16] Andrew: Is your penis an in-y or an out?

[28:20] Jess: Well, mine tour.

[28:26] Andrew: Uh okay. What do you think of this song?

[28:29] Jess: It's it's alright. It's okay. It it does the job. It's sentimental. But in a good way.

[28:35] Andrew: Okay, we we've missed like a bunch of it though, because there's really no songs that explain the whole ending.

[28:42] Jess: Eh, let's not spoil everything. Can we at least talk about the whole green goblin thing going on?

[28:49] Andrew: Yeah. Um, so in this th final section of the show, we find out that Aladdin um killed his parents. He turns into the green goblin from Spider-Man. I really can't think of any other way to put that. I mean, that's literally what's happening, I think. Um Jekyll and Hyde type stuff. He reminds me way too much of of what's his name, that actor though.

[29:16] Jess: Yeah, he does the face.

[29:18] Andrew: He does look like a young Defoe.

[29:20] Jess: I don't know. He's actually a better dead ringer for fucking young Han Solo than Alden Eidenrick.

[29:26] Andrew: Oh no, we're not gonna talk about Star Wars, are we?

[29:29] Jess: No, okay. Let's bring up Star Wars.

[29:33] Andrew: It's by They did do a Star Wars musical. It wasn't very good.

[29:37] Jess: Oh, just like the Star Wars Christmas special.

[29:40] Andrew: There's nothing.

[29:41] Jess: No, that one's great.

[29:43] Andrew: Just like that one.

[29:44] Jess: That one's amazing.

[29:47] Andrew: Be Arthur.

[29:49] Jess: B Arthur.

[29:51] Andrew: I can't wait.

[29:54] Jess: I wasn't down before, but now that I hear B Arthur's there, count me here.

[30:00] Andrew: This is almost as good as the uh Star Wars elf crossover.

[30:05] Jess: What?

[30:05] Andrew: What?

[30:08] Jess: That was a thing.

[30:09] Andrew: I've just I'm just making stuff up at this point.

[30:13] Jess: Alright. Um, yeah, that was a cool scene. Either way, the show ends with a reprise of the best song in the show for Andrew, A Thousand and One Nights, where Sharazad and Jafar are reunited. It's a good ending. The song is very short, though.

[30:31] Andrew: Um, yeah. Um, everything's wrapped up in a really emotional way. Like, there's not everyone gets what they want, but not exactly. But it's oh it was a challenging ending, like for like a comedic little YouTube movie.

[30:48] Jess: What are you talking about?

[30:49] Andrew: He sells stuff.

[30:51] Jess: He sells stuff.

[30:54] Andrew: He doesn't have to steal, he sells. People probably steal from him now.

[31:02] Jess: Um, how would you recommend it in the line of all of the other musicals that we reviewed? We're on episode five, but I think it would be nice to keep a track of what Andrew likes most. So if you had to rate the musicals we've reviewed so far and a list format, what would be your top um five? Because we're on number five. We aren't gonna do this every time, we'll just do it every five.

[31:22] Andrew: Okay, okay. Um a sweet thoughts on the top. That's number one, then this one.

[31:29] Jess: Okay.

[31:30] Andrew: Then Assassins. Um, then the Rocky Horror, and then rent at the bottom.

[31:41] Jess: Wow, you you he he liked rent less than the Rocky Horror Time Warp show.

[31:47] Andrew: No, rent was miserable. Bring your friends.

[31:52] Jess: Alrighty. And I don't think I can disagree with that. Hopefully we'll do some more good stuff in the future.

[31:58] Andrew: Yeah, this is probably gonna be a shorter one, but I mean, how many times can we say go watch this fucking thing?

[32:04] Jess: Yeah, this thing is great. Um please take take the time. I know it looks long, and I know it's a YouTube video, but I assure you it is quality.

[32:11] Andrew: Um we link it up.

[32:14] Jess: Um it is up there with like Dr. Horrible in like its quality.

[32:20] Andrew: Yeah. So I mean, sorry the episode is a little short, but I mean fucking just watch the damn thing.

[32:28] Jess: I agree. Umrew, what is your cheese rating for Twisted?

[32:34] Andrew: Ooh. It's it's high quality, so I'm gonna give it like my my personal favorite cheese is uh standard American cheese. This is a standard American show. It's from Chicago. It originated in Michigan. Um the everyone there went to U of M. This is a American show through and through.

[33:02] Jess: Um let us know if you want us to do more Star Kid shows. Um I have yet to watch Firebringer, but I hear it's good. Um I've seen all the rest of them, and I think Andrew might get a kick out of some of them too. Except for Annie.

[33:15] Andrew: Annie, I I didn't care for Annie.

[33:17] Jess: Well, they they did their own version of Annie.

[33:20] Andrew: Yeah, it's about Anakin.

[33:23] Jess: Oh god.

[33:25] Andrew: And the guy who's playing Anakin um does a Patrick Warburton impression throughout it.

[33:32] Jess: What?

[33:34] Andrew: Yeah. It has some funny moments, but overall it was pretty disappointing.

[33:39] Jess: I'm assuming this is about Anakin Skywalker. Am I am I wrong here? Am I completely off?

[33:46] Andrew: Um it's about Darth Vader, but they call him Annie.

[33:50] Jess: Okay.

[33:50] Andrew: So it's about the later years. It's n it's its own weird thing.

[33:55] Jess: Umnie, are you okay?

[33:59] Andrew: Yeah, kind of.

[34:00] Jess: Are you okay?

[34:02] Andrew: Maybe I should watch this again.

[34:03] Jess: I'm I'm looking at like the list of cast. I f I forgot that like Grand Moth Tarkin was played by um Achmed.

[34:13] Andrew: Alright, well, if we ever if we ever have to review Annie, uh, we'll do that instead, okay?

[34:19] Jess: Um, so hopefully um we'll see you sometime soon. And please watch Twisted.

[34:25] Andrew: Yes, absolutely do that.

[34:27] Jess: Alright, until next time. I'm Jess.

[34:31] Andrew: And I'm Andrew.

[34:32] Jess: And this was Musicals with Cheese.

[34:34] Andrew: Love you.

[34:36] Jess: Goodbye, friends.

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