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[2:24] Jess McInally: Hello, I'm Jesse McInally.

[2:26] Andrew DeWolf: And I'm Andrew DeWolf.

[2:28] Jess McInally: And welcome to Musicals with Cheese, a podcast where I try to get Andrew to like musical theater.

[2:32] Andrew DeWolf: And today we have a super extra special guest with us today.

[2:37] Jess McInally: A very special guest.

[2:39] Andrew DeWolf: Super special.

[2:40] Jess McInally: Um, today we have a content creator and all-around hilarious person, Robbie Johnson.

[2:46] Robbie Johnson: Robbie, say hello.

[2:47] Robbie Johnson: Hello.

[2:48] Jess McInally: How much is my special price?

[2:50] Robbie Johnson: You get to decide, I suppose.

[2:53] Jess McInally: You couldn't put a price on you, Robbie.

[2:55] Robbie Johnson: Oh, okay.

[2:57] Robbie Johnson: I was gonna say 499 plus tax.

[2:57] Jess McInally: Plus tax?

[3:01] Robbie Johnson: Plus tax.

[3:02] Robbie Johnson: It depends where you're buying.

[3:03] Jess McInally: I mean, you go to New Hampshire, there's no tax.

[3:06] Andrew DeWolf: You know where there's definitely no tax?

[3:08] Jess McInally: Uganda.

[3:12] Andrew DeWolf: Wow, great segue, Jess.

[3:14] Jess McInally: Thank you.

[3:17] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, there's—where is that?

[3:21] Robbie Johnson: Well, what?

[3:22] Jess McInally: Can we get the horns?

[3:23] Andrew DeWolf: Can we get the horns in here?

[3:28] Jess McInally: Uganda.

[3:30] Andrew DeWolf: Just like Lion King.

[3:34] Jess McInally: In case you haven't picked up what we were throwing down, this week we are talking about The Book of Mormon.

[3:43] Andrew DeWolf: Hey!

[3:48] Robbie Johnson: Nobody is one we see that there's another way.

[3:51] Jess McInally: Hello, so guarantee this book will change your life.

[3:59] Andrew DeWolf: This book will change your life.

[4:01] Jess McInally: Hello, this book will change your life.

[4:03] Andrew DeWolf: This book will change our life.

[4:06] Jess McInally: The Book of Mormon.

[4:17] Andrew DeWolf: Hello!

[4:19] Jess McInally: The Book of Mormon is a musical comedy, first staged in 2011.

[4:23] Andrew DeWolf: The play is a satirical examination of Mormon beliefs and practices that ultimately endorses the positive power of love and service.

[4:30] Jess McInally: The script, lyrics, and music were written by Trey Parker, Robert Lopez's, and Matt Stone.

[4:35] Andrew DeWolf: Parker and Stone were best noted for creating the comedy animated series South Park.

[4:40] Jess McInally: Lopez had co-written the music for the musical Avenue Q.

[5:02] Andrew DeWolf: The Book of Mormon follows two Mormon missionaries as they attempt to preach the Mormon religion to inhabitants from a remote Ugandan village.

[5:02] Jess McInally: The earnest young men are challenged by a lack of interest from the locals, who are distracted by more pressing issues such as AIDS, famine, female genital mutilation, and oppression from the village warlords.

[5:02] Andrew DeWolf: The Book of Mormon has grossed over 500 million dollars, making it one of the most successful musicals of all time.

[5:09] Jess McInally: So gentlemen, what do we think of The Book of Mormon?

[5:12] Andrew DeWolf: The Book of Mormon is excellent, and I liked it since before we started the show, to be honest.

[5:17] Andrew DeWolf: Um, and it's I think the first one of them that we've are doing that I've actually seen.

[5:22] Andrew DeWolf: Like live in person.

[5:24] Jess McInally: Like live and in person.

[5:25] Andrew DeWolf: I've actually seen this one.

[5:26] Jess McInally: How nice is that?

[5:28] Robbie Johnson: What about you, Robbie?

[5:30] Robbie Johnson: I love it.

[5:31] Robbie Johnson: I got a chance to finally see it live a couple months ago.

[5:34] Robbie Johnson: It came around here where I live, so we went and saw it.

[5:37] Robbie Johnson: It was pretty damn good.

[5:38] Jess McInally: Now, what makes it so good?

[5:39] Jess McInally: Like, what makes it like one of the most impressive musicals of all time?

[5:43] Robbie Johnson: Like it is financially impressive, and it's both storytelling impressive.

[5:47] Robbie Johnson: What makes it stand out from like the average things that we have on Broadway currently?

[5:52] Robbie Johnson: Probably because it's nothing like what's on Broadway currently.

[5:55] Robbie Johnson: I mean, what else could you think of that takes a religious text and I wouldn't say rips it apart, but at least I—I don't know, it's hard to say if it makes fun of it or not.

[6:07] Robbie Johnson: I'm not really sure.

[6:08] Robbie Johnson: But I can't imagine it definitely does.

[6:10] Robbie Johnson: At least the people who follow it, it makes fun of them for sure.

[6:14] Jess McInally: Yeah, but it—I can't imagine a successful musical being called the Holy Bible.

[6:19] Andrew DeWolf: But you have something like Jesus Christ Superstar, but that doesn't really make fun of it.

[6:24] Andrew DeWolf: It's more just a direct interpretation of one of the stories.

[6:27] Jess McInally: Yeah, it's just telling one of the gospels.

[6:30] Andrew DeWolf: But I don't—I don't know.

[6:31] Andrew DeWolf: It's just so weird to me, because when I heard they were gonna do it, I thought, oh, that episode of South Park where they did pretty much the same thing.

[6:39] Andrew DeWolf: And which everyone you ever talk to about this, that's the first thing they bring up.

[6:42] Andrew DeWolf: Is like, oh, it's just like that episode of South Park, just longer, right?

[6:45] Robbie Johnson: No, no, it isn't.

[6:48] Andrew DeWolf: Well, I mean, they do talk about the history and Jeff, Joseph Smith and all that stuff, but they just do it as kind of an aside.

[6:58] Robbie Johnson: But um, I will say this, and I one thing I love about musicals is you have the soundtrack and you listen to it.

[7:04] Robbie Johnson: Maybe you can't get to New York or wherever to see it.

[7:07] Robbie Johnson: You listen to the soundtrack, you love the songs, you love the songs, and you get what it's about, but there's still so much left out.

[7:13] Robbie Johnson: And even though you might have memorized the soundtrack and listened to it endlessly, you finally get to see the show, and there's still so much more.

[7:13] Robbie Johnson: And The Book of Mormon is definitely one of those.

[7:21] Jess McInally: There are some where it's like, okay, that's all that's in between the songs.

[7:24] Andrew DeWolf: Jesus Christ Superstar.

[7:25] Andrew DeWolf: That's all there is.

[7:26] Andrew DeWolf: You see it on stage, it's like, okay.

[7:28] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, you don't really miss very much.

[7:30] Robbie Johnson: With this one, there's a lot of—um, there is a lot of stuff that's just talking in and gags almost.

[7:36] Jess McInally: Yeah, my favorite gag is them constantly—or Elder Cunningham constantly mispronouncing that girl's name.

[7:44] Robbie Johnson: And I can't remember her actual name.

[7:47] Robbie Johnson: I can only remember what he called her, like Nintendo 64.

[7:51] Andrew DeWolf: He also like—um, John Bon Jovi at one point.

[7:56] Robbie Johnson: Possibly.

[7:57] Robbie Johnson: But my personal favorite was the one that I saw where he called her Nyqua Cold and Sinus.

[8:04] Jess McInally: Um, her name is Nabulungi.

[8:06] Robbie Johnson: Okay, perfect.

[8:10] Jess McInally: So it makes sense.

[8:15] Andrew DeWolf: But yeah.

[8:16] Andrew DeWolf: Well, that is racist, Jess, and you need to take that back right now.

[8:20] Jess McInally: I'm reading it off the Wikipedia.

[8:26] Andrew DeWolf: Well, if it's on Wikipedia, it must be true.

[8:29] Jess McInally: That's true.

[8:30] Jess McInally: That's a good point.

[8:31] Andrew DeWolf: Wikipedia is a great tool.

[8:33] Jess McInally: Um, but not only did this show bring in a lot of money, it also brought us a lot of like current Broadway actors like Andrew Rannells, Josh Gad, um, Nikki M. James, Rory O'Malley.

[8:42] Andrew DeWolf: All these people are now staples of the Broadway world because of this show, where before this, they were not really anyone.

[8:50] Jess McInally: Andrew Rannells was best known for being um, James from the Pokémon musical.

[8:57] Robbie Johnson: Well, is that real?

[8:59] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[9:01] Andrew DeWolf: Didn't Ben Platt get his first role in The Book of Mormon?

[9:05] Robbie Johnson: Yep, in the second national tour.

[9:07] Andrew DeWolf: So did AJ Holmes from StarKid and Gavin Creel.

[9:11] Andrew DeWolf: Like a lot of people got their start here.

[9:13] Robbie Johnson: Yeah, Ben Platt when he was, you know, Pat, and now he's not fat.

[9:17] Andrew DeWolf: Uh, he was always weird looking.

[9:18] Robbie Johnson: They never called him fat.

[9:21] Andrew DeWolf: Well, he was definitely a lot chunkier than he was in Dear Evan Hansen.

[9:25] Robbie Johnson: Yes, yes.

[9:26] Andrew DeWolf: Um, before he played Cast Boy, exactly.

[9:29] Robbie Johnson: Yeah.

[9:30] Robbie Johnson: Um, I think um, yeah.

[9:34] Andrew DeWolf: I wanted to say that I think a huge part of the reason this is so successful is because of South Park.

[9:40] Robbie Johnson: Honestly, uh, didn't they do like a bunch of episodes uh pretty much advertising this before it came out?

[9:47] Andrew DeWolf: I remember there was one like Broadway Bro Down or something like that, like right before this came out.

[9:52] Jess McInally: No, it was right after. It was right after the Tony Awards, and they did it with Robert Lopez's who did the music for this with them.

[9:59] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, they so they hyped this up for the mainstream almost.

[10:03] Jess McInally: So yeah, but it was funny because they just showed it right at the end, just a little quick, and then it was over.

[10:10] Andrew DeWolf: So about the production of this, um, we all know the South Park guys are known for pushing the envelope and being like, what can we do to get away with things?

[10:21] Jess McInally: And they were so baffled with Broadway that there was no limit.

[10:24] Andrew DeWolf: They were like, aside from like maybe actually killing someone on stage, no one told us we couldn't do anything.

[10:29] Jess McInally: So, and it was weird having that freedom for them.

[10:33] Andrew DeWolf: Honestly, this is one of the tamer musicals, I think, that is out there.

[10:38] Robbie Johnson: Really? You think so?

[10:39] Andrew DeWolf: I—there's so much like actually really edgy and depressing shit in some of these shows that you have me watch.

[10:47] Robbie Johnson: And this one, it's just played for laughs, so it's not really that edgy, really.

[10:51] Jess McInally: Yeah.

[10:52] Andrew DeWolf: Mm-hmm.

[10:53] Robbie Johnson: Now why do you think this—oh go ahead.

[10:56] Andrew DeWolf: No, no, you go, Robbie.

[10:57] Robbie Johnson: Okay.

[10:57] Robbie Johnson: Well, I was gonna say they always—they also put in a lot of their own staples of South Park into the musical.

[11:05] Robbie Johnson: Um, you know, they all—they work in some gay stuff, they work in uh the stuff with AIDS.

[11:12] Robbie Johnson: They've done stuff with poverty before, like after 9/11, and they did that episode where they sent the goat or whatever.

[11:18] Andrew DeWolf: So yeah, there was definitely a lot of their staples.

[11:22] Robbie Johnson: Um, the only thing I never really got is—and I just thought it was just maybe one step too far over the top—was why did the general have to be called Butt Fucking Naked?

[11:31] Andrew DeWolf: I think that's an actual general's name.

[11:33] Robbie Johnson: Yes.

[11:34] Andrew DeWolf: They got it from an actual general's name.

[11:36] Robbie Johnson: Yeah.

[11:37] Andrew DeWolf: Oh.

[11:37] Robbie Johnson: I think it was—I think his name wasn't Butt Fucking Naked, it was just Butt Naked or something like that, like that, and then they just—

[11:42] Andrew DeWolf: That is brand new information.

[11:46] Robbie Johnson: Yeah, so I think that's an actual real-life joke.

[11:49] Andrew DeWolf: Wow.

[11:49] Andrew DeWolf: It was um like hi there, that is a general's name, but in the original previews, um, his—the general was um General Coney, and then you know, the stuff there just happened, so they changed it to another real general who is General Butt Fucking Naked, who is Joshua Milton Blah.

[12:10] Robbie Johnson: Um, yeah, so that's—that's all the fun stuff you gotta know about real life and how scary it is.

[12:15] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[12:16] Jess McInally: Well, I mean, Uganda is probably a scary place, and I don't want to go there. Sorry, all of our Ugandan listeners. Another thing I wanna bring up is that this is one of the most diverse musicals currently playing on Broadway. Like it has a large segment of an African American cast. And from the marketing, that is well hidden. Um I think that's a really weird marketing tool that they have never taken advantage of, and I find that interesting as well. Mostly because it would ruin a bunch of laughs, too.

[12:47] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[12:47] Jess McInally: Yeah, and I feel like the South Park guys, I mean, we probably shouldn't talk fully about political leanings and stuff, but I don't think they would be doing that type of marketing.

[12:56] Andrew DeWolf: Oh no.

[12:56] Jess McInally: No, they're they're very libertarian based on just what I see in South Park day in and day out.

[13:02] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[13:02] Jess McInally: Um, so I I don't think that's the type of marketing campaign they would be running. But yeah, I wonder if it's like a bigger diversity than like Hairspray or something like that.

[13:12] Andrew DeWolf: Well, Hairspray isn't currently on Broadway.

[13:15] Jess McInally: Right, right now. But I know to do either show, if you were to do it yourself, I don't think you amateurs can do it yet, but you would have to have that specific in your cast, otherwise it wouldn't make sense.

[13:28] Andrew DeWolf: Exactly.

[13:31] Jess McInally: So where do we think the show leans on Mormonism and religion altogether? Because it does have like one of the most famous, like fuck you god songs in the entire world.

[13:42] Andrew DeWolf: But eventually it comes into a place of just believe whatever whatever the hell makes you happy is basically the message of this.

[13:50] Jess McInally: Well, yeah. Um at the end, what did they say? Um, one of the the spoiler alert. Um already getting into spoilers.

[14:00] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, yeah.

[14:01] Jess McInally: No, we're fine. She the uh Nephertiti or whatever her name was. She said, uh or you know, she's going on about why this is so important to her because she really does believe in this stuff and wants to get to Sal Talake Cassidy, and somebody else pulls her aside and goes, it's just a story. You don't think Joseph Smith really fucked a frog, do you?

[14:31] Andrew DeWolf: And that's what it's to me that's all about. It's like, you know, religion is just stories. And if they bring you joy, great. If they make you think a certain way, and it's positive, great. But otherwise, don't read too much into it.

[14:44] Jess McInally: So you don't believe Adam and Eve really existed.

[14:46] Andrew DeWolf: Well, I think there was somebody, I mean, there was there were humans. I don't know who the first Homo sapiens were. Uh some science believes that they've traced it down to by mitochondria, but um, I don't know. They may have. I don't think there was a I think I don't think there was a snock a talking snake that made them put big leaves over their junk.

[15:07] Jess McInally: Made 'em.

[15:08] Andrew DeWolf: By gunpoint. I think I think it was Adam and Steve, I'm gonna be honest with you.

[15:13] Jess McInally: Well Me too. It would be it would have been nice, however, I don't think we would have gotten it very far.

[15:19] Andrew DeWolf: Okay, well, not for lack of trust.

[15:22] Jess McInally: Cain and Abel managed to do it afterwards.

[15:25] Andrew DeWolf: So I would like to know who carried that child to term.

[15:28] Jess McInally: Uh probably the one that died.

[15:35] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, so out of the entire musical, and it's full of gags, what is your guys' favorite personal gag in the entire musical?

[15:43] Jess McInally: Because this is Well he I think he already said his favorite gag.

[15:46] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, yeah, I've already said mine.

[15:47] Jess McInally: Well, you, Andrew.

[15:50] Andrew DeWolf: Um, I I actually um when I saw it live, the the dance number where uh one of them doesn't quite realize he was in the dance, and then he's like, wait, I'm wearing like a pink shirt or something. That was uh it was bizarre. Uh that was funny. That was a great gag.

[16:08] Jess McInally: Yeah, when they I feel like I've seen that somewhere else, so it's not like totally just this, but I think they did it really good.

[16:14] Andrew DeWolf: So it reminds it reminds me of Spamalot, the Lancelot song where he's kind of Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he's kind of forced to come out of the closet, and so he's he just kind of dragged into this whole gay burlesque number. But yeah, that that was a good bit.

[16:29] Jess McInally: I'm I'm not about you, Jess.

[16:31] Andrew DeWolf: I'm not gonna lie, I love the maggots and my scrotum guy.

[16:35] Jess McInally: Do you have the uh do you have the t-shirt?

[16:37] Andrew DeWolf: Um, no, but I do have a water bottle that says I'm wet with salvation, which is another just great that's a great lyric.

[16:45] Jess McInally: Yes, I love that song.

[16:49] Andrew DeWolf: Okay. Do we wanna do we want to go through the plot or do you feel like we've already covered enough of it?

[16:54] Jess McInally: I feel like I covered enough of the plot, but I am interested in whether or not you think this is too plot heavy where you feel like the themes outweigh the comedy, and like how well do you guys feel that balances?

[17:06] Andrew DeWolf: Well, uh okay. I remember watching it, and again, I've listened to the soundtrack a whole bunch. I've read about the plot and know pretty much what was gonna happen, but there was one spot when I saw it live that I was not anticipating, and that was during the spooky Mormon Hell Dream. And there were all these giant Starbucks cups dancing in the background.

[17:26] Jess McInally: And I thought, what the hell is that all about?

[17:30] Andrew DeWolf: I thought they were talking about Starbucks being everywhere, but then and then someone had to remind me Mormons don't drink caffeine.

[17:38] Jess McInally: I'm like, oh, but I thought that was better now. I thought God allowed caffeine now.

[17:44] Andrew DeWolf: Like he changed his mind about caffeine, but maybe not.

[17:46] Jess McInally: I don't know. Just like he changed his mind about black people.

[17:49] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[17:49] Jess McInally: Well, yeah. But maybe he changed his mind since that was written. You don't know.

[17:55] Andrew DeWolf: Mm-hmm. I find it Mormons to ask.

[17:58] Jess McInally: I find it very interesting how the Broadway community reacted to Book of Mormon. I mean, they embraced it, obviously. But they expected Matt and Trey and Robert Lopez's to be a lot more antagonistic towards the Mormons, and they weren't.

[18:10] Andrew DeWolf: And they they weren't following him down the antagonistic line.

[18:13] Jess McInally: Like I remember Ben Brantley like was really like, Mormons are really bad people, don't you think? Like, I mean, they hate black people. Like, no, they changed your mind. Like, no, Mormons are great. Stop stop trying to make us say we hate Mormons.

[18:25] Andrew DeWolf: Wow.

[18:26] Jess McInally: No. Yeah, we wrote this whole thing about how Mormons are dumb, and you don't have to make us say it. Just watch the thing.

[18:32] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[18:34] Jess McInally: But I think uh Matt and Trey grew up in like Colorado, like actually.

[18:40] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[18:40] Jess McInally: And there's a shit ton of Mormons there. I had a friend who went to uh Colorado for like an internship or something like that. And he said every single other person that was there is from the Brigham Young uh college.

[18:53] Andrew DeWolf: Oh god.

[18:53] Jess McInally: And they were all Mormons. That whole area is apparently saturated with Mormons, just ridiculously.

[18:59] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, th I think those are the Mormons who didn't quite make it to Utah. They they just fell short.

[19:06] Jess McInally: Just it's like the the ones who uh stopped in Missouri. I forget which ones they were. It wasn't the the Joseph Smith crowd because he died, and then Brigham Young took over, but there was another dude, I think it was Joseph Smith's son, who kind of stuck around in Missouri, and that's why the Garden of Eden is in, you know, an hour north of Jackson County, Missouri.

[19:25] Andrew DeWolf: Right, which is about an hour north of Kansas City, you know. Because when Jesus comes back, that's what he's gonna do. He's gonna board a plane and to Kansas City, Missouri, and just go about an hour north to the meth capital of Missouri.

[19:38] Jess McInally: They have a meth capital.

[19:40] Andrew DeWolf: Um, some people say it is. That uh edge of Missouri is pretty meth-heavy, yeah.

[19:46] Jess McInally: Yeah, but if you grow up with all the Mormons, it's probably pretty hard to hate them all uh like that, like the people wanted them to say they did.

[19:55] Andrew DeWolf: And I feel like there's not an ounce of hate in this musical for anyone. Like our two Mormon leads are just naive. They're not mean, they're not racist, they're not anything. Like they're naive, and that is the worst thing you can say about them.

[20:09] Jess McInally: Um Elder Price is a little greedy, and that's a personality thing, not a Mormon thing.

[20:14] Andrew DeWolf: Right.

[20:15] Jess McInally: I mean, he's destined to get to Orlando, and he gets really pissy because he's not there, and that's how he spends.

[20:21] Andrew DeWolf: I want to go to Orlando too, though, to be fair.

[20:23] Jess McInally: To be fair to him.

[20:25] Andrew DeWolf: I love Orlando. It is a lot of fun. I get it. When he sang that song, I was like, yeah, I want to go to Orlando too. Let's go.

[20:31] Jess McInally: But if you ship one foot out of Orlando, you're in the rest of Florida and you're gonna die.

[20:37] Andrew DeWolf: Well, that's that's true.

[20:39] Jess McInally: Yeah.

[20:40] Andrew DeWolf: So your head'll end up. You know, don't leave Orlando. You'll have a you'll be a severed head on a stake.

[20:44] Jess McInally: Just don't leave Orlando, and you're fine.

[20:47] Andrew DeWolf: There's an airport there, you fly right in, you never leave, you fly right out.

[20:51] Jess McInally: Gotta fly into Tampa though.

[20:52] Andrew DeWolf: It's like you're in Tampa.

[20:54] Jess McInally: Why would you want to go to Tampa?

[20:55] Andrew DeWolf: You don't.

[20:56] Jess McInally: That's just where you have to fly in.

[20:57] Andrew DeWolf: You don't have to fly into Tampa.

[20:59] Jess McInally: There's an airport in Orlando.

[21:01] Andrew DeWolf: Wow, I learned it.

[21:03] Jess McInally: Actually, if you stay at Disney, you can go to the airport. You don't even have to look at another human being.

[21:07] Andrew DeWolf: Disney will pick up all your luggage.

[21:10] Jess McInally: Mickey Mouse will pick your ass up right from the airport.

[21:15] Andrew DeWolf: Put you in a van and take you straight to your hotel room.

[21:19] Jess McInally: You don't have to talk to another person. You get off that plane, and yeah, you they don't even you don't have to look at your luggage. It's already in your room waiting for you.

[21:26] Andrew DeWolf: It's like Hogwarts.

[21:27] Jess McInally: There is Disney agents there to fucking wipe your ass you and put you put you in a van and you wake up in the hotel room.

[21:34] Andrew DeWolf: That's pretty much it, yeah.

[21:37] Jess McInally: If you want to eat, they'll carry you down.

[21:40] Andrew DeWolf: Then by the time you get home and you get the bill, you're gonna have to sell your house.

[21:44] Jess McInally: Yeah, but that's Disney.

[21:46] Andrew DeWolf: Ain't that the truth? If you go to Disney for a week, you could probably probably could have bought a house.

[21:52] Jess McInally: Or at least put a good down payment.

[21:55] Andrew DeWolf: Oh my goodness. Alright, do you want to go into a mid-show?

[21:58] Jess McInally: Yeah, let's go into halftime here.

[22:00] Andrew DeWolf: Halftime show.

[22:06] Jess McInally: Alright, who do we have?

[22:08] Andrew DeWolf: John Bon Jovi playing for us.

[22:10] Jess McInally: Oh yeah, we always have Don John Bon Jovi.

[22:12] Andrew DeWolf: But you know Don Bon Javi. You know who's paying for Don Bon Javi?

[22:17] Jess McInally: Who?

[22:17] Andrew DeWolf: Um, our very kind donators.

[22:19] Jess McInally: Oh, Avar, a Patreon.

[22:22] Andrew DeWolf: No, Aver, you said.

[22:23] Jess McInally: Avar at Patreon. Andrew, who are our donators currently?

[22:27] Andrew DeWolf: Didn't we already run through the list of the stuff?

[22:28] Jess McInally: Run through the list.

[22:31] Andrew DeWolf: They're paying us. They just all they need is their name said. They aren't asking much of us.

[22:36] Jess McInally: Uh Stephanie L. Terry Needleman, Max Lunick, Benjamin Lear, Chris O'Kelly, Lidily Accles, McKenzie Horner, John Donna, Terran the Duck, Melissa Goldman, Jess Lightning, Ewan Cassidy, Haley McDonald, Teskeer, Callum McLeod, and Fire of September.

[22:51] Andrew DeWolf: They gave us a little extra financial support that helps us keep the lights on here at Musical's the Cheese. If you'd like to join them in supporting us and get tons of fun perks, such as patron only commentaries, our episodes a day early, or even earlier, come join us at Patreon. There's a lot of cool stuff coming up. I promise.

[23:04] Jess McInally: He promises.

[23:06] Andrew DeWolf: I make a lot of promises.

[23:09] Jess McInally: Do you want to get back to the show?

[23:10] Andrew DeWolf: We would love to get back to the show.

[23:58] Jess McInally: "Hello" is probably one of my favorite opening numbers of all time.

[24:01] Jess McInally: Yes. It's very universal.

[24:03] Andrew DeWolf: It's so good. But not only that, it sets up the rules for how Mormons expect things to go. Like, especially for us to like get it so subverted in the second half, like right then being like, this is what they are expected to do, this is what they're expecting. White class suburban neighborhoods that they go and they knock on the door.

[24:22] Andrew DeWolf: They knock on the door and they say hello, and the worst thing that happens is they close the door.

[24:26] Jess McInally: Yes.

[24:27] Andrew DeWolf: Actually, no one's gonna get shot.

[24:30] Jess McInally: Yeah, and that in that song, I think it I don't think anybody's seemed to close the door.

[24:34] Andrew DeWolf: Because they all had people to talk to.

[24:36] Jess McInally: Mm-hmm.

[24:36] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[24:37] Andrew DeWolf: Even the guy who he told to go burn in hell or something.

[24:41] Jess McInally: Isn't that what he said?

[24:42] Andrew DeWolf: He said like Have fun in hell or something.

[24:44] Jess McInally: Have fun in hell.

[24:45] Andrew DeWolf: That's right.

[24:46] Andrew DeWolf: Have fun in hell, yeah.

[24:47] Andrew DeWolf: Where you burn.

[24:47] Jess McInally: So it's implied.

[24:49] Jess McInally: Mm-hmm.

[24:50] Jess McInally: Yeah, this is this is a very good uh like stage setter, I think.

[24:55] Jess McInally: And it sets up both our characters very well.

[24:57] Jess McInally: It sets up Elder Price as being the good guy that's like r on the ball doing it all, and Elder Cunningham as the fuck up.

[25:04] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[25:05] Jess McInally: Exactly.

[25:06] Jess McInally: Just like us, Andrew.

[25:08] Andrew DeWolf: That's what?

[25:16] Jess McInally: But which one's which?

[25:18] Andrew DeWolf: Uh we all know which one's which, Jess.

[25:21] Jess McInally: Yeah, we know.

[25:22] Jess McInally: You and me, but mostly me.

[25:23] Andrew DeWolf: Mm-hmm.

[25:24] Jess McInally: Speaking of which, um, what do you think of you and me and mostly me as uh I want song, so to say.

[25:30] Andrew DeWolf: I feel like two by two is his I want song.

[25:32] Jess McInally: Oh sorry.

[25:34] Jess McInally: My bad.

[25:34] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know.

[25:35] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[25:35] Jess McInally: You and me is most is like the wizard and I song.

[25:38] Andrew DeWolf: Well, that's uh the unwants song.

[25:40] Jess McInally: Yeah, I guess it is, isn't it?

[25:42] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, but two by two is the one where he's uh he goes off on how he wants to go to Orlando, which You and Me is the loathing song, except more positive.

[25:53] Jess McInally: I mean, that is a good way to look at it now that I think about it.

[25:56] Jess McInally: We're we're stuck together, but I don't really hate you.

[25:58] Jess McInally: I just you know, go sleep over there.

[26:01] Jess McInally: Don't touch me.

[26:03] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[26:04] Andrew DeWolf: That that whole lullaby song, especially seeing it staged because they strip down to that Mormon underwear or whatever that's called.

[26:11] Jess McInally: The onesie.

[26:13] Andrew DeWolf: Uh is that what it's called?

[26:14] Jess McInally: No, but it looks like a onesie.

[26:18] Andrew DeWolf: It looks more I was thinking like long underwear like you wear in the wintertime.

[26:21] Jess McInally: But what was if they if they take that off, what happens?

[26:24] Andrew DeWolf: They explode.

[26:25] Jess McInally: Yeah.

[26:26] Jess McInally: They explode.

[26:27] Jess McInally: They they actually turn into that odd 70s cartoon that explained Mormonism.

[26:32] Andrew DeWolf: Have you seen that?

[26:33] Andrew DeWolf: It looks like it was drawn.

[26:34] Jess McInally: No.

[26:35] Jess McInally: It look it up on YouTube.

[26:36] Jess McInally: It's hilarious.

[26:37] Jess McInally: It looks like it was drawn by the people who drew who did like heavy metal.

[26:41] Andrew DeWolf: Oh god.

[26:41] Andrew DeWolf: Oh.

[26:42] Jess McInally: And they explain Mormonism with animation.

[26:45] Andrew DeWolf: What is this called?

[26:46] Jess McInally: What is this called?

[26:47] Andrew DeWolf: I don't remember the name.

[26:48] Andrew DeWolf: They explained Mormonism, and it's just the most bizarre animated thing.

[26:53] Andrew DeWolf: It's either the 70s or the 80s when it came out.

[26:56] Andrew DeWolf: Um or when it was put out, but I just it's very weird.

[27:01] Jess McInally: But anyway, the um when at least in the production I saw, I'm not sure about Andrew Reynolds or Josh Gadd or Ben Platt or them, but at least when I saw it, let's just say I don't think uh that is their underwear.

[27:14] Jess McInally: There was nothing on underneath, and those lights are very bright on very thin material.

[27:21] Andrew DeWolf: Could you see their nipples or their dicks?

[27:23] Jess McInally: I I well with Elder Cunningham I could, and I could just say that Elder Cunningham being short and chubby.

[27:30] Jess McInally: Um, well, let's just say if he's straight, he will make the ladies happy.

[27:33] Andrew DeWolf: Good for him.

[27:34] Jess McInally: Hey, he's and if he's gay, he will make the guys very happy.

[27:37] Andrew DeWolf: Well, he's got the he's got a good build.

[27:40] Jess McInally: It's like a kind of like a Danny DeVito type build going on.

[27:43] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, it was almost like a it was almost like a kickstand.

[27:47] Jess McInally: He'll be very, very popular in the bear community.

[27:50] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, that he will.

[27:51] Jess McInally: That that's very good.

[27:53] Andrew DeWolf: Fuck you.

[27:54] Jess McInally: God!

[27:57] Andrew DeWolf: What?

[27:58] Jess McInally: When God looks you in the butt.

[28:02] Andrew DeWolf: From going right back in his comment.

[28:20] Jess McInally: It's gibberish language.

[28:22] Andrew DeWolf: It literally means nothing.

[28:25] Jess McInally: Yeah, uh does it actually mean anything?

[28:27] Andrew DeWolf: I I didn't really look it up.

[28:28] Jess McInally: No, no, it's gibberish.

[28:29] Andrew DeWolf: Is that it actually is gibberish?

[28:32] Jess McInally: Okay.

[28:32] Jess McInally: Fair enough.

[28:33] Jess McInally: Um, obviously a pestiche on the Lion King.

[28:36] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[28:36] Jess McInally: Um, what do you guys think of this song?

[28:38] Jess McInally: Like I think this is the fight part where like the Broadway musical we thought we were watching just takes a right turn.

[28:45] Andrew DeWolf: This is great.

[28:47] Andrew DeWolf: When this when this happened uh live, it was like the best shit.

[28:55] Jess McInally: You can feel the old person, the audience that had like seasoned tickets to just all the shows showing up to this being like, What?

[29:02] Andrew DeWolf: What?

[29:02] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[29:03] Jess McInally: Oh my goodness!

[29:07] Jess McInally: Oh my goodness.

[29:08] Jess McInally: And they say the C word, which is so nice.

[29:10] Andrew DeWolf: I love it.

[29:10] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, they say it many times.

[29:12] Jess McInally: It's like the best word that you're not allowed to say in America.

[29:15] Andrew DeWolf: And what I love is You can totally say anywhere else.

[29:17] Jess McInally: They say it in a way they say it in a way that's not rarely used because a lot of people use it to describe somebody.

[29:22] Andrew DeWolf: Like that person.

[29:23] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[29:23] Jess McInally: Yeah, like, um, but they say it as an orifice.

[29:28] Jess McInally: And that's not that needs to come that needs to come out.

[29:30] Jess McInally: We need to use it more often as an orifice instead of an adjective.

[29:34] Andrew DeWolf: I think we just need to start using it more.

[29:36] Andrew DeWolf: America needs to catch up with like Australia and Britain and all that.

[29:40] Jess McInally: Well, didn't the Virginia monologues take that word back and now it's a good word again?

[29:44] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know.

[29:45] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know.

[29:45] Andrew DeWolf: I haven't seen it, but I've heard I thought I heard that, but anyway.

[29:48] Jess McInally: I like the C word.

[29:49] Jess McInally: I mean it's a good word.

[29:52] Andrew DeWolf: I it's a very good word.

[29:53] Andrew DeWolf: It's so good we're not even saying it.

[29:55] Jess McInally: Mm-hmm.

[29:56] Jess McInally: You don't want to spoil it, you know?

[29:58] Andrew DeWolf: I guess not.

[29:59] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, yeah.

[29:59] Andrew DeWolf: See, but if we were if if we did say it, it would have so much impact, you know.

[30:04] Jess McInally: Yeah, you gotta be careful how you say the word cunt.

[30:07] Andrew DeWolf: What the fuck?

[30:08] Jess McInally: There we go.

[30:11] Jess McInally: But back to the song.

[30:13] Jess McInally: Like, do you think it's offensive in any way?

[30:16] Jess McInally: Like just the way that they casually drop AIDS as a topic.

[30:20] Andrew DeWolf: Uh, it might be offensive that they're using gibberish language for Ugandans.

[30:25] Jess McInally: Well, I actually actually it's not it's not gibberish.

[30:28] Jess McInally: Those words have meaning, they just have meaning in different languages.

[30:30] Andrew DeWolf: Hasa means something in Swahili, Diga means something in Portuguese, and uh Ibawai is something in Japanese.

[30:37] Jess McInally: I forget why.

[30:38] Jess McInally: I looked it up before.

[30:39] Jess McInally: I remember it was just a mixture of languages.

[30:41] Andrew DeWolf: But putting them together still doesn't quite equal what they're claiming.

[30:46] Jess McInally: Right.

[30:47] Jess McInally: No, it doesn't have a literal meaning like that.

[30:49] Jess McInally: It's just what they made up for the song.

[30:51] Andrew DeWolf: But as far as that goes, I mean, you can understand their plight.

[30:51] Andrew DeWolf: You can understand their frustration.

[30:57] Andrew DeWolf: You can understand why, or at least that's what you're supposed to do is the audience is understand that they are so in the armpit of the world that they're a little hacked off.

[31:07] Jess McInally: And what I thought would have been interesting, and they didn't do this, and I thought they would, considering how they have done South Park, I was kind of hoping the Mormon missionaries would run into the Christian min missionaries, but they didn't.

[31:19] Andrew DeWolf: Christians would never go to Africa.

[31:22] Jess McInally: Okay.

[31:22] Andrew DeWolf: I think they do all the time, Jess.

[31:24] Jess McInally: Name once.

[31:25] Andrew DeWolf: Name one time.

[31:28] Jess McInally: Well, I mean, you did have the crusades.

[31:32] Andrew DeWolf: What was the People's church a Christian church?

[31:35] Andrew DeWolf: Because they went to Africa.

[31:36] Jess McInally: Unless it's if it's not, uh, well, I'm not gonna say that, but pretty much if it's not Catholic or Jewish, it's Protestant, and all that falls under the same umbrella.

[31:45] Andrew DeWolf: But usually the Protestants are the ones who go out of missionaries.

[31:48] Jess McInally: You never see Catholic missionaries.

[31:50] Andrew DeWolf: Right.

[31:50] Andrew DeWolf: Because they know how to they know how to keep it in house and they're probably too drunk to go anywhere anyway.

[31:55] Jess McInally: They go forth and multiply like they were told to.

[31:57] Jess McInally: And the and the Jew and the Jews, you know, have spent too much time in the desert and they're not going back.

[32:04] Andrew DeWolf: I mean that's I mean, let's not bring up the Israel Palestine the issues.

[32:10] Jess McInally: Okay, so as far as that song being offensive, uh it's not meant to be because it's not like they're telling the audience or trying to persuade anybody.

[32:17] Jess McInally: They're just saying, This is who we are, this is what we think about God and all that stuff.

[32:22] Jess McInally: So you think you can change us?

[32:24] Jess McInally: Go right ahead.

[32:25] Jess McInally: Good luck.

[32:25] Andrew DeWolf: I think the funniest part of this song for me, and it also builds character, is just seeing Elder Cunningham and Price's first world problems.

[32:32] Andrew DeWolf: Like they're like, why don't you give it a try?

[32:34] Jess McInally: He's like, our luggage was stolen, the plane was crowded and the bus was late.

[32:39] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, exactly.

[32:40] Andrew DeWolf: Compared to we all have AIDS and I I can't everything hurts and I got maggots in my scrotum.

[32:46] Jess McInally: And the the uh women lose their clits.

[32:49] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[32:50] Jess McInally: Mm-hmm.

[32:50] Jess McInally: The glitz could cut right off.

[32:52] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, oh.

[32:56] Jess McInally: Uh you know, the he never said it, but does the daughter have AIDS?

[33:01] Andrew DeWolf: She has a wonderful disposition.

[33:03] Jess McInally: I understand that, but it's almost like he started to say it, but I wonder if he started to say it because he was just saying it and caught himself, or if he she actually has AIDS.

[33:11] Andrew DeWolf: It's never that's one of the mysteries of the Book of Mormon, I think.

[33:14] Jess McInally: Uh I don't think she has AIDS.

[33:16] Jess McInally: I think she's like the only person that does.

[33:18] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[33:18] Andrew DeWolf: I that's kind of what I gathered from that too.

[33:21] Jess McInally: I wonder how she kept I wonder if she's kept her virginity.

[33:24] Andrew DeWolf: Yes.

[33:25] Jess McInally: Don't no one raped her as a baby?

[33:27] Andrew DeWolf: Well, she's never done it before.

[33:28] Jess McInally: Well, that's what she says, but you kinda I mean, I don't have memories of ba when I was a baby.

[33:32] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know what people have done to me.

[33:33] Andrew DeWolf: For all I know, someone could have tried to cure their AIDS with me.

[33:37] Jess McInally: I know I was baptized, which apparently is like a foul thing to be done.

[33:41] Andrew DeWolf: I w it's true.

[33:42] Andrew DeWolf: I was not.

[33:43] Jess McInally: I missed out on that.

[33:45] Andrew DeWolf: Jim.

[33:48] Jess McInally: Have you heard of the all-American prophet?

[33:52] Andrew DeWolf: The blonde-haired blue-eyed voice of God.

[33:56] Jess McInally: He didn't come from the Middle East.

[33:59] Jess McInally: Like those other holy men.

[34:01] Andrew DeWolf: No God's favorite prophet was all American.

[34:06] Jess McInally: I'm gonna take you back to biblical times.

[34:09] Jess McInally: 1823.

[34:10] Jess McInally: An American man named Joe living on a farm in the holy land of Rochester, New York.

[34:15] Andrew DeWolf: So, how about all American Prophet, which is basically the you got trouble scene in this musical.

[34:21] Jess McInally: Yeah.

[34:21] Jess McInally: Um it's alright, it's not one of my favorites.

[34:24] Andrew DeWolf: Really?

[34:24] Jess McInally: Yeah, it's a it's it's an okay song.

[34:26] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know.

[34:27] Jess McInally: Y'all don't like Donna Yasmine that often.

[34:30] Andrew DeWolf: I I mean, I like I do, but I I prefer him in colorful coats, you know.

[34:37] Jess McInally: He he sang that song in Mulan pretty well, I think.

[34:40] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, he pretended to be an Asian man very well.

[34:43] Jess McInally: Yeah.

[34:44] Jess McInally: It was green and yellow and purple and blue and I think this sums up like why it's this is a very important song to sum up like the actual story of the Book of Mormon in a way from a Mormon that knows his shit very well.

[35:03] Andrew DeWolf: It's not tongue-in-cheek, um, as m not as much as the South Park episode was.

[35:09] Jess McInally: And earlier versions were much closer to that South Park episode, and they're like, no, we need this to be inscere and the funniness to be like Elder Cunningham reacting to it because we we need this to like offset an act two.

[35:20] Andrew DeWolf: Well, I mean, I think the funniest part of the song is that by the end of it, they're saying that he's the prophet.

[35:25] Jess McInally: Mm-hmm.

[35:26] Jess McInally: That Elder Price is the prophet.

[35:27] Andrew DeWolf: Mm-hmm.

[35:28] Jess McInally: If only.

[35:28] Andrew DeWolf: Well, also the uh the stuff that's going on on stage, which again you don't get just listening to it, but the uh they have all these people enacting Jesus, the the angel, Moroni, or whoever he is, and um and all that stuff.

[35:43] Jess McInally: I think it's pronounced Moroni.

[35:45] Andrew DeWolf: Moron.

[35:46] Jess McInally: What?

[35:48] Andrew DeWolf: Okay.

[35:49] Jess McInally: But I will say that that part's funny, just why because they real the people reenacting the like the death and everything and uh of Joseph Smith dying, they they really milk it for it's all it's worth in the background.

[36:04] Andrew DeWolf: Heavenly Father, why do you let bad things happen?

[36:10] Jess McInally: Did you get more to the point?

[36:12] Jess McInally: Why do you let bad things happen to me?

[36:17] Jess McInally: I'm sure you don't think I'm a flake clearly made a mistake.

[36:24] Jess McInally: I'm going where you need me most.

[36:28] Jess McInally: Orlando send to that fat like that now.

[36:35] Andrew DeWolf: It's my town town.

[36:37] Jess McInally: Satika now it's town town to come in the lead for the very first time.

[36:45] Andrew DeWolf: I know we wear the sun always.

[36:50] Jess McInally: Man up is fun.

[36:52] Andrew DeWolf: It's fun, but not the best act ender.

[36:56] Jess McInally: Act one phenomenon.

[36:56] Andrew DeWolf: Why do you say that?

[36:57] Jess McInally: It just doesn't.

[36:58] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, yeah, it's the end of act one.

[37:00] Jess McInally: Story-wise, it's a good way to end the act, but song-wise, uh it feels it feels like it falls short.

[37:07] Andrew DeWolf: It doesn't have the impact that a lot of other songs do, uh, at the at the midway point.

[37:11] Jess McInally: I mean, that's gotta really make people want to come back and not leave during an emission.

[37:16] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, it has a good cliffhanger where it's like, how is he gonna fix this?

[37:19] Jess McInally: Like, they're broken up, like it's it's very much like in diverging sections with our two leads, which is basically the crux of the story is the romance between Elder Price and Elder Cunningham, in a way.

[37:31] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, if only.

[37:33] Jess McInally: That that would that would be an awesome musical.

[37:36] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, it's like the romance between um uh Bia Stock and Bloom and the producers.

[37:41] Jess McInally: Like, that is the central crux of this story.

[37:44] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[37:44] Jess McInally: And if that's on the Fritz, that is what we're coming back.

[37:48] Andrew DeWolf: Like, how did they get back together?

[37:49] Jess McInally: Right.

[37:50] Andrew DeWolf: Like I said, story-wise, it was great.

[37:52] Jess McInally: Song wise, I think it just kind of fell flat.

[37:54] Andrew DeWolf: No pun intended.

[37:55] Jess McInally: Yeah, I don't know.

[37:56] Andrew DeWolf: The song, it's like the actual music itself is not like it's not big enough, I don't think.

[38:01] Jess McInally: It's like this heavy rock pastiche though.

[38:03] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[38:04] Jess McInally: I think it was almost like they were, you know, the South Park guys were like, okay, we gotta put in more South Park references.

[38:11] Andrew DeWolf: Uh, so let's put in this song that sounds very similar to this other song that we did in our show way back in the day.

[38:18] Jess McInally: Um, with that heavy grungy voice that they make Josh Gad do.

[38:23] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[38:24] Jess McInally: I can't remember how it goes, but it's at the end of one of their one of the South Park episodes where it's like this is the most South Park song in the whole thing, I think.

[38:33] Andrew DeWolf: Mm-hmm.

[38:34] Jess McInally: Yeah, I can see that too.

[38:35] Andrew DeWolf: And they do the they do their little they do a montage.

[38:39] Jess McInally: And I'm like, that it's not time for a montage yet.

[38:41] Andrew DeWolf: It's time for montage later.

[38:43] Jess McInally: Gotta do a montage.

[38:45] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, but I mean, like, you know how they bring in the old stuff and kind of quadrilette in the end, yeah.

[38:50] Jess McInally: It becomes like one day more in a while.

[38:53] Andrew DeWolf: I'm like, this isn't yeah, this is not uh it's not time for La Resistance yet.

[38:58] Jess McInally: That's later.

[38:59] Andrew DeWolf: I think they just do that because there's a lot of Act One closers that do that.

[39:03] Jess McInally: So they're like, oh, we have to do that.

[39:04] Andrew DeWolf: I guess so.

[39:05] Jess McInally: It's the only way you can make it feel satisfying and be like, wow, everyone's uh like on the edge.

[39:10] Andrew DeWolf: We need to feel like they need to come back and see what happens to everyone.

[39:14] Jess McInally: We have to know where everyone is at this exact moment.

[39:17] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, you're making things up again, Arnold.

[39:21] Jess McInally: You're recklessly warping the words of Jesus.

[39:25] Andrew DeWolf: Can't you say what you want are you?

[39:27] Jess McInally: Come on, Hoppin!

[39:28] Andrew DeWolf: You're making yourself a deep hole.

[39:31] Jess McInally: Making things up again, kind of.

[39:34] Andrew DeWolf: But this time it's helping a dozen people.

[39:37] Jess McInally: It's nothing so bad because this time I'm not committing to skin just by making things up again, right?

[39:44] Andrew DeWolf: No!

[39:47] Jess McInally: What is it?

[39:48] Andrew DeWolf: But Suwana is going to cut off his daughter's clitoris.

[39:52] Jess McInally: This is all very interesting.

[39:53] Andrew DeWolf: But women have to be circumcised if that's what the general wants.

[39:57] Jess McInally: No, doing that to a lady is definitely against Christ's will.

[40:00] Andrew DeWolf: How do you know?

[40:01] Jess McInally: Christ never said nothing about no clip.

[40:03] Andrew DeWolf: And I find it interesting.

[40:05] Jess McInally: Um, and maybe you guys will think I'm wrong here.

[40:08] Andrew DeWolf: Um, that making things up again is what we start Act Two with, and not spooky Mormon Helldream.

[40:13] Jess McInally: Right.

[40:13] Andrew DeWolf: Now that that's a great spot.

[40:15] Jess McInally: Spooky Mormon Hell Dream is more important, kind of.

[40:17] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know.

[40:18] Jess McInally: Well, uh making things up again, you know, helps establish that uh Elder Cunningham is capable of doing something.

[40:26] Andrew DeWolf: I don't know what that is.

[40:28] Jess McInally: But he can do something.

[40:29] Andrew DeWolf: It's not a complete goof up.

[40:31] Jess McInally: And he's doing pretty much exactly what the Mormons believe about Joseph Smith.

[40:37] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, his own.

[40:39] Jess McInally: Right.

[40:39] Andrew DeWolf: For all they know, he just made it up himself.

[40:43] Jess McInally: And and he's and so Elder Cunningham's pretty much doing exactly that with these people, but he's also smart enough, maybe, to make it make it relatable to their plight.

[40:54] Andrew DeWolf: Because he keeps changing things to their plights.

[40:57] Jess McInally: No, you will not have sex with that infant.

[41:02] Andrew DeWolf: God ain't saying nothing about no clitoris.

[41:07] Jess McInally: Yes!

[41:08] Andrew DeWolf: Yes, he did.

[41:12] Jess McInally: I like it when he he doesn't say clitoris.

[41:14] Andrew DeWolf: It's quiet stuff.

[41:16] Jess McInally: He's like a woman's clitoris.

[41:21] Andrew DeWolf: Like he's trying to be a good Mormon, but he also is like uh I have to do it.

[41:27] Jess McInally: He gotta prove that it's in the Bible.

[41:31] Andrew DeWolf: It's not the Bible, it's the Book of Mormon.

[41:34] Jess McInally: It's part three, remember.

[41:35] Andrew DeWolf: It's another testament.

[41:37] Jess McInally: It's Return of the Jedi.

[41:39] Andrew DeWolf: Um fun fact, the original version of All American All American Prophet was called the Bible part three, and it was just like the third part of every film trilogy is always the best one, so don't miss out on the Book of Mormon.

[41:53] Jess McInally: Just like Matrix and the Terminator, the Bible is a trilogy, too.

[41:57] Andrew DeWolf: And if you don't see a repart three, it'll all be confusing to you.

[42:03] Jess McInally: That was the original song, and it's much funnier, but it doesn't set up as much.

[42:08] Andrew DeWolf: Because the book of Revelation was a big cliffhanger.

[42:12] Jess McInally: Pretty much.

[42:14] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[42:14] Jess McInally: Who's this Jesus guy?

[42:17] Andrew DeWolf: I've lived with that guilt all of my life and the terrible vision that I had that night.

[42:26] Jess McInally: No, please, I don't want to go back.

[42:44] Andrew DeWolf: Hell God Spooky Mormon Helldream.

[42:52] Jess McInally: Spooky Mormon Helldam.

[42:55] Andrew DeWolf: What's the one spooky Mormon Hell Dream?

[42:57] Jess McInally: Why is the song here?

[42:58] Andrew DeWolf: It's to get to get it's to get what's his name back on track.

[43:04] Jess McInally: And uh to So we can get the I believe number one.

[43:08] Andrew DeWolf: It resolves one's cliffhanger way too fast in my opinion.

[43:11] Jess McInally: Like both making things up into spooky Mormon Hell Dream.

[43:14] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[43:14] Jess McInally: But it doesn't though, because the cliffhanger is that they're not together, and then they even after both of those things happen, they're still not together.

[43:21] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, not for a while.

[43:23] Jess McInally: Because he doesn't really come around fully until after the last song.

[43:27] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, after American Moses.

[43:29] Jess McInally: Right.

[43:30] Andrew DeWolf: But yeah, spooky Mormon Hell Dream again was another chance for them to work in South Park stuff because they worked in the Reptus um from the Damien episode.

[43:38] Jess McInally: And a lot of that hell stuff is stuff you've seen when they show hell on um on South Park.

[43:44] Andrew DeWolf: Hitler's there.

[43:45] Jess McInally: Um the people you expect to be in hell are there, and then some people you're like, why is Princess Diane in hell?

[43:51] Andrew DeWolf: Why is Johnny Cochrane in hell?

[43:54] Jess McInally: Why is why is um Gene Siskel in hell?

[43:57] Andrew DeWolf: Or all these other people, you're like, okay.

[43:59] Jess McInally: I guess they just threw that in there to be funny.

[44:02] Andrew DeWolf: But yeah, it was just it was just this is Trey that song is Trey and Matt, and I I don't know where Robert Lopez's is in that song.

[44:10] Jess McInally: I feel like it was more Robert Lopez's than its earlier incarnation.

[44:13] Andrew DeWolf: Um its original title, which I think is a funnier title, is H.E.

[44:18] Jess McInally: Double Hockey Sticks.

[44:20] Andrew DeWolf: You are condemned and now you serve me in H.

[44:23] Jess McInally: E.

[44:23] Andrew DeWolf: Double Hockey Sticks.

[44:25] Jess McInally: Your soul is darned for eternity in H.

[44:29] Andrew DeWolf: E.

[44:29] Jess McInally: Double Hockey Sticks.

[44:31] Andrew DeWolf: Think I care, you think I'd rather be free.

[44:33] Jess McInally: If the world doesn't make sense, then I'd rather be in H.E.

[44:37] Andrew DeWolf: Double hockey sticks.

[44:41] Jess McInally: Alright.

[44:43] Andrew DeWolf: I'm evil.

[44:45] Jess McInally: At least here I know where I stand.

[44:47] Andrew DeWolf: Okay, so H.E.

[44:49] Jess McInally: double hockey sticks.

[44:50] Andrew DeWolf: No more worries, no more doubting, no more questioning.

[44:52] Jess McInally: Face on content to what the fire in this fashion place.

[44:56] Andrew DeWolf: I belong with Satan just like him.

[44:57] Jess McInally: I also pay double hockey sticks.

[44:59] Andrew DeWolf: No.

[45:03] Jess McInally: And like he he goes down there and he's like, Alright, I'm evil just like you guys.

[45:08] Andrew DeWolf: I'm gonna be evil now.

[45:11] Jess McInally: And then he's look, but then he changes his mind.

[45:14] Andrew DeWolf: Look who's evil now from Avil Dead.

[45:16] Jess McInally: Basically, yes.

[45:17] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah.

[45:18] Jess McInally: Okay.

[45:18] Andrew DeWolf: Look at I was I I'm Hitler, I killed millions of Jews, I'm in H.E.

[45:23] Jess McInally: Double Hockey Sticks.

[45:28] Andrew DeWolf: Like, I think that's a much better title, but I get why they changed it because they wanted it very clear that it's a dream and he wasn't really in hell.

[45:35] Jess McInally: I I get the confusion, but H.E.

[45:37] Andrew DeWolf: Double Hockey Sticks is just such a better title.

[45:39] Jess McInally: I believe Satan has a whole Lord God sent me here, and I believe that in 1978, God changed his mind about black people.

[45:39] Andrew DeWolf: Black people!

[45:59] Jess McInally: You can be a Mormon.

[46:02] Andrew DeWolf: A Mormon who just believes.

[46:06] Jess McInally: Okay.

[46:06] Andrew DeWolf: We have to talk about I believe.

[46:09] Jess McInally: Because we have to Tony song.

[46:11] Andrew DeWolf: It was the only song they could sing on the Tony.

[46:14] Jess McInally: Do what?

[46:15] Andrew DeWolf: I don't even think it's that good, honestly.

[46:17] Jess McInally: Really?

[46:18] Andrew DeWolf: They could have sung I am Africa at the Tony's.

[46:21] Jess McInally: Why would they be able to do that?

[46:22] Andrew DeWolf: They could have sung.

[46:24] Jess McInally: They could have done um Hello, maybe.

[46:27] Andrew DeWolf: Turn it well, no, well, they did later.

[46:29] Jess McInally: But they did um Turn It Off.

[46:31] Andrew DeWolf: They should have done that.

[46:32] Jess McInally: Because that's the big dance number.

[46:34] Andrew DeWolf: That's usually what they do in the Tonies.

[46:35] Jess McInally: They do the Oh yeah.

[46:37] Andrew DeWolf: The one that has the most cast members.

[46:38] Jess McInally: They dance, they tap, whatever.

[46:40] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, maybe I saw anything goes too much.

[46:43] Jess McInally: I don't know.

[46:44] Andrew DeWolf: I feel like that rumblings too many gags.

[46:46] Jess McInally: I think they wanted to do something that wouldn't ruin a lot of jokes, so to say.

[46:51] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah, but it's defin it definitely had the Mormon stuff in it that got in the uh the audience reaction was exactly what I expected it to be.

[47:00] Jess McInally: But at the same time, it was it didn't sound like uncomfortable laughter.

[47:03] Andrew DeWolf: It actually sounded like people thought it was hilarious.

[47:06] Jess McInally: Right.

[47:06] Andrew DeWolf: On all these facts about Mormons, because the last time I checked, that's all true.

[47:11] Jess McInally: Yeah, yeah.

[47:12] Andrew DeWolf: But also Randall's vocal range.

[47:15] Jess McInally: Incredible.

[47:15] Andrew DeWolf: Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[47:17] Jess McInally: And I'm I'm surprised he doesn't do more Broadway.

[47:20] Andrew DeWolf: I mean, he does more singing in general.

[47:22] Jess McInally: He does.

[47:23] Andrew DeWolf: He was just in falsettos and he was absolutely incredible in that and snubbed, snubbed really hard.

[47:28] Jess McInally: He was just in a play on Broadway.

[47:29] Andrew DeWolf: Well, he needs to do more singing.

[47:31] Jess McInally: Oh, I agree.

[47:32] Andrew DeWolf: Have you seen his PBS um special?

[47:35] Jess McInally: I have not.

[47:37] Andrew DeWolf: Some of the best set list of like a cabaret special I've ever seen.

[47:41] Jess McInally: Like I highly recommend it.

[47:42] Andrew DeWolf: I will look into that.

[47:44] Jess McInally: Unfortunately, I don't have I don't even know what to call it anymore.

[47:48] Andrew DeWolf: I don't have regular TV anymore because I never watch it.

[47:51] Jess McInally: Everything I watch is on Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon, so it's a waste of money to have regular TV now.

[48:01] Andrew DeWolf: That's true.

[48:02] Jess McInally: I will have to look into that, absolutely.

[48:05] Andrew DeWolf: Desperation!

[48:06] Jess McInally: Mortality!

[48:07] Andrew DeWolf: Loss of faith!

[48:09] Jess McInally: Aaaaaah!

[48:12] Andrew DeWolf: I got the golden blade.

[48:17] Jess McInally: Even though their prophet had died, the Mormons stuck together and helped each other and were really nice to everyone they came across.

[48:26] Andrew DeWolf: And then one day, the Mormons finally found Santalekiti.

[48:33] Jess McInally: Saltalek Cassetti.

[48:36] Andrew DeWolf: And there the Mormons danced with Ewoks and were greeted by Jesus.

[48:43] Jess McInally: Welcome, Mama!

[48:45] Andrew DeWolf: Now, let's all have as many babies as we can and make big Mormon families.

[49:05] Andrew DeWolf: Speaking of fucking frogs, let's talk about Joseph Smith American Moses. The best thing about that song is that song is better on stage than audio. If you just listen to the audio, you're only getting a quarter of what that song is. I mean, it's hilarious just with the audio, but when you see the visuals, you're on the floor. It's just they it's the 11 o'clock song. So it's like go out, go. They went for bust on that one. When the long African penises came out. Oh my god. And every time they go back to, as Andrew said, the Ah I got the golden blitz. It's hilarious. And you're like, and the sincerity behind it. Like they are all super sincere. The best one is after Joseph Smith dies or whatever, and he's like, oh, despair, agony.

And the best part is they have these little scars they use to show the shit coming out the butt, blood coming through. It's like red, brown, red, brown. It's hilarious. It's like Lion King. It is like Orlando, as Elder Price eventually says.

[51:03] Jess McInally: Is a latter day. Uh that's just the finale song. Most finale songs I think are some of the weakest in most musicals. That feels very similar to You Can't Stop the Beat from Hairspray.

[51:15] Andrew DeWolf: Now see, that's my that's an exception. For me, I think that's one of the strongest songs in that show is their finale song. But most other shows, their finale songs are just wrap-ups. And don't really say the worst finale song in any musical. Just that curiosity.

[51:27] Jess McInally: Uh that's a good one. Um probably um the last song of uh Wicked.

[51:36] Andrew DeWolf: Four Game. I think it's just called Finale.

[51:38] Jess McInally: No, not for good. The the reprise well, it's I think it's just titled finale.

[51:43] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. It's just kind of like that's a wrap-up. I mean, I guess I know what you mean. Yeah, but again, I think that's just when they wrap it up like that, it's just more for visual and story rather than it is for music, and they're just, I don't know, it's almost like the composer's like, god damn, I don't want to write another fucking song. Let's just do here. Let's do that.

[52:01] Jess McInally: Well, I'm gonna raise you that because Andrew and I just recently did Kinky Boots, and that had a brand new song for the final number, and it just doesn't land.

[52:09] Andrew DeWolf: Oh yeah. It doesn't land because you It sucks.

[52:12] Jess McInally: That one sucked. I don't think the song sucked is the thing. Like, it just doesn't land. It doesn't feel like it wrapped up the story. And I think that um Hairspray is the exception that proves the rule, so to say.

[52:24] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. Darren Hansen's final song was also kind of like that. It was just a reprise of other stuff.

[52:30] Jess McInally: For forever, yeah.

[52:31] Andrew DeWolf: Yeah. And um, it just didn't I don't know. I guess they just put it all, like I said, they put it all into the 11 o'clock song, and then the last song is like, well, who cares?

[52:39] Jess McInally: Yeah, that's how I felt during the entirety of Dear Evan Hansen. Um, either way, let's move You know what I do care about though? I care about our wonderful donators over at Patreon.

[52:54] Andrew DeWolf: Um, who which includes Stephanie L, Terry Needleman, Max Lunig, Benjamin Lair, Chris O'Kelly, Lily Eccles, Mackenzie Horner, John Donna, Terran the Duck, Melissa Goldman, Jess Lightning, Ewan Cassidy, Haley McDonald, Teskier, Cal McLeod, and Fire of September, who are giving us a little bit of money to help us do this show every week. But enough about them. What did you guys think overall about Book of Mormon and your cheese rating? Andrew, I'm gonna let you go first so that Robbie can get an idea of what our cheese ratings mean.

[53:24] Andrew DeWolf: Okay. Um, let's see. Uh as a whole, the music, the jokes and everything lands pretty well throughout the entire show for this. And it has a lot of great gags that you see uh on stage as well, which are is always a plus. Um, and I just really like this. Uh and I feel like most people do, so I don't think that's a controversial opinion. If you haven't seen it, you probably should. Um as far as a cheese rating, um I don't actually know how to pronounce this, but I'm gonna give it my best shot. Uh I'm gonna go with uh Parmigiano Reggiano or whatever the hell this is, which apparently is the most popular cheese in Utah. I gave it my best shot.

[54:06] Jess McInally: Okay. Um I love um Book of Mormon. I think it's great. Um it has a few like rolling errors, like the Orlando thing didn't hit very well right after the pulse shootings, and I remember that was a big controversy when that happened, so I think it should adapt a lot like how Avenue Q adapts um some of its lyrics to be more modern. Since it's been on Broadway for like eight years, I think some of the cultural references should be updated as well. But aside from that, I think the show's great. Um musical theater structure is perfect. It's fantastic. And I am giving it a cheese rating of Cabra al Vino, which is one of the most popular cheeses in Uganda.

[54:49] Andrew DeWolf: You went with the other one, Jess.

[54:51] Jess McInally: I went with the first one. You went to What about you, Robbie? What did you think?

[54:54] Robbie Johnson: Uh well, um, soundtrack, loved it. Uh performances I've seen on live from shows before the one I actually saw in person, uh, loved it. The songs are super catchy, uh, which is uh a danger when you walk out of the theater or in your car blasting Hasa Diga, but why with the windows down. And then you actually pass some real Mormons on the street, he's like, oh hi, uh speed on by. But the songs are super catchy. I know you are. The uh the songs are super catchy, and which is always a plus. And uh when when it's staged, everything is done well. The version I saw was um well done, choreographed well, story is well. Uh I'm trying to think of any faults other than maybe what I would have done with the story, but that's not really their fault, because they didn't ask me anything before they wrote it.

[55:51] Andrew DeWolf: They should have. Get in touch with Robbie for the next musical, Matt and Trey.

[55:56] Robbie Johnson: But uh What are you doing? Not asking Robbie what what to do with your musical. Fuck.

[56:01] Andrew DeWolf: Um and I will say, uh, one thing I do when I go to shows is I listen to the pit stuff. And uh, because I'm an instrumentalist, so I enjoy what goes on in the pit, and that's enjoyable too uh to listen to. Very uh just lots of active stuff going on uh stage. I I don't know. It's it's hard for to describe. It's just it's brilliantly done, and it's what a way to take something that would normally be offensive in any other medium, but it works in Broadway, and and I don't know if you could do it with any other religion. Uh I wouldn't mind seeing someone try, but Scientology. You probably is a very easy to talk about that. It would they would tear you down so fast, they would burn the fucking theater down because they're evil, but oh yeah, yeah, they would, but no one else would.

[56:46] Jess McInally: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's all in good fun. Come on.

[56:53] Robbie Johnson: As far as a cheese rating goes, I would have to say that it has to be, I would have to give it cheese whiz.

[57:03] Jess McInally: Please explain your reasoning.

[57:07] Robbie Johnson: Uh the cheese of Mormons. I don't know if that's true or not, but I I I don't know if that's true or not. But I just imagine this up. I just imagine that when they're desperate for cheese. You're making things up again, Robbie.

[57:22] Robbie Johnson: I'm making things up again, kind of. But it's making a lot of people happy. Um so yeah. I I just assume they eat a lot of cheese whiz.

[57:34] Jess McInally: That's fair. I can't fight that. You know who else probably eats a lot of cheese whiz? Your donors.

[57:39] Andrew DeWolf: Nope. Um the wonderful people who are currently in the site. Um, thank you all for listening and eating cheese whiz while listening. Please follow us on iTunes Spotify Stitcher at Musicals with Cheese. We're on Twitter at Cheesy Musicals. Our Patreon, as we've mentioned before, is at Musicals with Cheese. Our Instagram is Musicals with Cheese. Our YouTube page is Musicals with Cheese. Our email is musicaltheatrelives@gmail.com. Our title card is created by the incredible Jolene Casco. Her Instagram is at Jolene Casco. Robbie, is there anything you want from out there for people to come find you at?

[58:15] Robbie Johnson: Um, no. Not at present. Maybe in the future, but presently I am on hiatus.

[58:21] Andrew DeWolf: He made some great content in the olden days. You'll see me with my long bleached blonde hair in them if he ever re-uploads.

[58:29] Robbie Johnson: Pardon me kind of hopes he doesn't.

[58:31] Andrew DeWolf: If somebody will allow me to re-upload, that would be awesome, but we'll see. I still have it all stored on a hard drive. It's still in my possession. He did the best review of Heathers I have ever seen. Like, I still stand by that being one of my favorite pieces of internet content I've ever seen.

[58:47] Robbie Johnson: Oh, that's wait. Maybe we should do the Heathers musical sometime. I love the Heathers musical, so.

[58:52] Jess McInally: Uh I just want to say one thing here before we go. Um before we did this episode, Jess told me that you sound exactly like Mr. Garrison.

[58:59] Robbie Johnson: Yeah. Um I wanted to say that's pretty much true. Um It's not the it's not the first time and definitely won't be the last time I've heard it. I th the first time I met Robbie, that was the first thing I said to him. I want to see if if you would sing the song, Mr. Garrison singing.

[59:15] Andrew DeWolf: Which one?

[59:16] Robbie Johnson: The uh the one about his country.

[59:18] Andrew DeWolf: About his country. Where my country gone.

[59:21] Robbie Johnson: Oh, I don't know that song that well. I know the song you're talking about, but I don't know that song that well to sing it back to you.

[59:27] Andrew DeWolf: Is there one you do know better?

[59:28] Robbie Johnson: Um let me think. I was thinking about I was thinking about Merry Fucking Christmas, but I don't know that one as well either. Uh I I can't really it's all right it's I can't pull a song out like that. I'm sorry. I have to rehearse.

[59:43] Andrew DeWolf: Why don't you just sing our last summer from Mamma Mia?

[59:46] Robbie Johnson: Oh god, no. End with that.

[59:49] Andrew DeWolf: I have sung that enough, but thank you.

[59:52] Jess McInally: Fine. I guess we're not getting any songs. Next time we might ask you to come prepared.

[59:58] Andrew DeWolf: Jeez.

[59:58] Jess McInally: Yes. Jess, where do you where do you dig up these guests, Jess? Fucking amateurs, man.

[1:00:04] Andrew DeWolf: We're done professionally.

[1:00:07] Jess McInally: We are done professionally. Remember when Christian Bale lost his shit for no reason?

[1:00:15] Andrew DeWolf: Actually, after being on many film sets, he did not lose his shit for no reason. A DP should not be fucking around with lights while they're rolling camera.

[1:00:22] Jess McInally: I'm gonna what the fuck was he doing?

[1:00:24] Andrew DeWolf: We are done professionally.

[1:00:26] Jess McInally: And rightfully so. Is that what that dude said? I haven't heard the I didn't hear the meltdown. I I love meltdowns, so I'm surprised I haven't heard it yet. Uh go check it out. Everybody go check out Christian Bale Meltdown. That's the takeaway from this episode.

[1:00:40] Jess McInally: Yes, yes. Have a great have a great day.

[1:00:42] Andrew DeWolf: Alright, we'll see you next time on Musicals with Cheese.

[1:00:46] Jess McInally: Adios.